[00:06] hey everyone [00:06] hi [00:06] need help with the command for upgrading to 4.2 [00:07] my monitor get black sometimes ... im using kde 4 theres some problem ? === kronicKoH is now known as RussellAlan-bbs [00:07] kronicKoH: I just made that upgrade recently, what part did you need help with? === yaroslav is now known as yaroslav_ [00:13] RussellAlan-bbs: do you still need help with the command to upgrade to kde 4.2? [00:21] I'm having problems with youtube playback, anyone care to help? [00:24] hi, im atm updating to the 4.2 packages [00:24] it says ive got broken deps: liblasma3 [00:24] !knownissues [00:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about knownissues [00:24] should i really use -f? [00:25] !known issues [00:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about known issues [00:25] !issues [00:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about issues [00:25] hmm [00:25] apt-get -f install [00:26] i guess i'll just give it a whirl... === BluesKaj is now known as Munster [00:28] hi === Munster is now known as BluesKaj [00:32] I'm currently using a 500GB HDD for XP and Kubuntu partitions. I got a 1TB HDD to put Kubuntu on it and give 500GB to XP. I am being told by Norton Ghost that it cannot be done because the 1TB passes the 1024 cylindrical point. [00:33] Presently, I am copying the partition onto the hard drive as I intended. [00:33] But I also told Ghost to "Resize drive to fill unallocated space" [00:33] I also set the drive active and am copying the MBR [00:34] what is the fastest, most reliable, stable filesystem you can put on a brand new kubuntu install? [00:34] vbgunz: Ext3 [00:34] draik_: really? [00:34] I don't think you can do Ext2 [00:35] Ext4: is supposed to be better and is stable. Reiser4 kicks both in the ass I believe and XFS comes out on top from what I've gathered. the thing is, I am mostly reading old articles in search of the fastest and most reliable file system :/ [00:36] e.g., not sure which, reiser or xfs, one of those can hose the system if shut down by surprise. I would rather sacrifice the speed for the next best thing, reliability [00:39] Hi! [00:39] Did anybody have the problem with keyboard in 8.10? [00:40] For some reason the whole keyboard didn't respond. Only Ctr+Alt+F keys and Ctrl+Alt+Del worked. [00:40] At the same time the mouse was working and the desktop was fully functional (I could use mouse to interact with desktop). [00:48] yaroslav: using dual displays? [00:49] witht he ait or nvidia driver? [00:49] not using dual display [00:49] ati driver [00:50] ok... my problesm were realate to an x.org bug. the work around was to switch to twinview [00:50] but is sounds like some thing is funny wiht your x ... do you have a standard config? what are the logs tilling you? [00:51] i see, but I don't need twinview :( [00:51] hello [00:51] ati dosent use twniview.. thats a nvidia 'feature' [00:51] right, your question was "Did anybody have the problem with keyboard in 8.10?" well i have... but for differnt reasoins === simon__ is now known as shaggy123 [00:53] you have a standard config with the ati drivers.... i think its all guess work (for me) till you get out the logs.... im helping my neibor move and the truck just came back. be back in 15 min [01:05] Info 60BB0031: Partitions ending past cylinder 1024 may not be bootable. [01:06] That is the error/info I got from Norton Ghost [01:06] How can I check if my partition is going past that point? [01:08] yaroslav: did you get squared away? [01:09] Thats not much if an 'error' draik_ [01:09] I'm here [01:09] 1024 boot cylinder limit - was common on OLD hardware a few years back.. but not muich iof a issue these days [01:09] yaroslav: did you find out about the x related logs> [01:09] thats one of the reasons having a /boot partition at the start of the Hard drive was common practice === _roconnor is now known as roconnor [01:11] I'm SOL then, huh? [01:12] I don't suppose I can re-write the contents of the original partition so that I can have /boot in the beginning and maintain the rest right where it is. [01:12] draik_, i dont see why its a problem at all. [01:12] Really? [01:12] How do I do that? [01:12] Ive not had any system with the 1024 limit in years [01:13] I cannot get my wireless card working, I am using an Atheros integrated card, model number AR2413, can anybody help me ge4t this working? [01:13] I'm being told that it won't boot if past 1024 [01:13] You never actually mentioned a prooblem.. just some 'warning' from ghost. [01:13] 'Partitions ending past cylinder 1024 may not be bootable.' [01:13] Right [01:13] Does that mean it won't actually boot? [01:13] that MIGHT of been true 5+ years ago on some hardware [01:13] 'MAY NOT' - how old is the system? [01:14] I built it back in 2004 [01:14] End of '04 [01:15] Try it and see. [01:15] Anyone here manage to get a Blackberry Curve and Ibex to play together? [01:15] or make a /boot parittion, thats smaller in size. then a main / partitiion [01:16] I'm back to the original drive and partition. [01:16] I'm not seeing my 1TB in /media [01:17] How can I make a /boot partition and then the rest of the / partition from what I already have since it is all on one partition? [01:17] is it mounted. try the 'mount' command. [01:17] Is there any data on the drive now? [01:18] Yes, I just cloned the drive from the 500GB to the 1TB [01:18] a 1TB hard drive in a machine thats 4 yr old.. Hmm... that might be an issue also.. buit it depends on the controllers i guess. [01:18] you could use gparted to resize.. or just try booting the thing and see if it works. [01:21] I see the drive with qtparted [01:21] so far you have not proben that it 'is' a problem. You are just worrying about a warning from NortonsGhost. [01:22] It is under /dev/sda [01:22] I wonder if norton ghost also copied over the GRUB boot loader. [01:23] It should [01:23] I also wonder if the UUID's of the drives are the same now that they got cloned... and resized.. [01:24] I wouldn't think they'd be the same, would they? [01:24] I always figured UUIDs were unique, like a MAC address. === gnuton is now known as Gnut[OFF] [01:24] No they are not. [01:25] you can change the uuid's :) you can change macs also.. but thats harder.. [01:25] You can also clone and spoof MAC, but that's another topic. [01:26] I can't seem to mount /dev/sda [01:26] thats because you mount /dev/sda1 not /dev/sda [01:26] Ah [01:26] 'sudo fdisk -l' and see whats there [01:27] I'm in [01:27] Do that where, /mnt or on /? [01:28] do what? fdisk -l is a command that dosent matter. :) [01:28] Ah [01:28] Ok [01:28] Linux Basics 101 :) [01:28] I'm going to use Konversation on my desktop... just a sec [01:28] be sure to use 'sudo' also [01:29] I used sudo [01:29] Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/117899/ [01:30] and that shows... me that you have a lot of hard drives. [01:30] :) [01:30] :) [01:30] 4 of them [01:30] Well, 4 int, 1 ext [01:30] I got one box that had 8 at one time. [01:30] I recall. That will be my eventual project [01:31] You could replace 3 of the hd's with a single new 1 tb drive.. :) and then some.. :) [01:32] This desktop will eventually be the main desktop while I run other systems via KVM as personal servers [01:32] i got a 1.5 tb hd the other day for stuff. :) [01:32] I'm almost at 100% with all drives. [01:33] be sure to have backups. :) [01:33] i had a 500gb go click-clack-dead. the other day [01:33] Spring cleaning will commense next week if I can get the 1TB to be my Linux boot [01:33] i was backing iot up.. then discoverred.. i was backing up the WRONG drive... [01:33] Ouch [01:33] so i lost a 500gb.. but went and bouight a external 1.5tb. [01:34] that let me unplug 3 other hd's [01:34] after taking a week to copy them to the new 1.5tb [01:35] I'll eventualy go that route with an eSATAA [01:35] *eSATA [01:35] Making sure my new external HD's ahve eSATA also.. [01:35] but this one dident. :( i was going to get the one that did.. but it was not on sale.. and for $50 - i can wait. :P [01:36] From what you see, everything should be good for me to disconnect all of the drives (except 1TB) and boot from it? [01:36] Try it and see. thats about all ya can do. [01:36] Ok [01:37] Here goes nothing... [01:37] I tend to use my bios menis to puck what HD to boot . :) but older machines are often not as flexiable [01:38] Hi [01:38] how d i use wiwne in KDE over GNOME [01:38] ? [01:39] wine [01:39] ? [01:39] anyone can help [01:39] Plzz [01:39] wine /path/to/whatever/wiundowsprogram.exe [01:39] !enter | arshad [01:39] arshad: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [01:39] Here we go, Dr_Willis [01:39] ok [01:39] now what 'in kde over gnome' part of that question..is vague. [01:40] GRUB error 22 [01:40] check the grub homepage/docs - i dont have the error codes memoruized [01:41] http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html [01:41] Dr_Willis: I'm surprised that you don't [01:41] 22 - Deleted Partitions [01:41] I know enough grub that i rarely have to mess with it [01:41] the default desktop in Ubuntu8.04 is GNome, Have installed dual Kde as option === arshad is now known as arshad_ [01:43] arshad_, If you installed kubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu system,. ya should have a kde entry in the gdm/kdm sessions login screen [01:44] ya [01:44] hi === eric is now known as Guest53616 === giuseppe is now known as Guest95952 [01:47] salve [01:48] como faz pra ir pra portugues [01:48] qualcuno può aiutarmi? [01:48] qualcuno può aiutarmi? [01:51] Dr_Willis: How can I write to the file on /mnt? I'm using the LiveCD and have it mounted there. [01:51] write to what file? [01:52] To /boot/grub/menu.lst ............... never mind. Got it with sudo [01:53] logical eh? :) [01:53] Takes a while, but yes. [01:54] it sounds like - from that error message. the uuid= entry may be wrong [01:54] !uuid [01:54] To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) [01:54] Dr_Willis: Seriously, thanks for putting up with my noobiness [01:54] I was thinking that UUID's DID change if you resized the filesystems [01:55] I just want to make sure it boots first [01:56] did I miss something? ATI SUPPORTS 3D on JAUNTY?? [01:56] ... shocked.. and can't believe [01:57] UnixOne_, i heard there was some issues.... [01:57] I've got jaunty and kwin's compositing effects work, altough I haven't installed ANY drivers [01:57] Dr_Willis: ^^ [01:58] Dr_Willis I've got no issues, except that it's slow and I've got one of the most problematic gfx cards, ATI RV350 [01:59] Dr_Willis: it feels as if the full capacity of the gfx card isn't used.. [01:59] but ati is supposed to be 'supported' now! or so i hear ati-lovers say. :) [01:59] I will stick with nvidia for the foreseable future [01:59] Dr_Willis: indeed, me too but where did you hear that? [02:02] in here. :) [02:02] hmm [02:02] every time ya get people goimng abouit ati vs nvidia someone says somthing like ' well now ati is supporting linux!' :) [02:02] then there always the 'on some cards......' footnote [02:03] Dr_Willis: I'll wait till april when jaunty is final and ati releases a driver that works. [02:03] which mauy not happen till July. :) [02:03] Dr_Willis: hahah :D yea maybe^ [02:04] i have KDE 4.1, how do i downgrade to 3.5?... [02:04] Dr_Willis: ati sux really hard, not due to the hardware.. it's due to those idiots not sharing their drivers [02:04] using aptitude. [02:04] spych3r: why not upgrade to 4.2 ? 4.1 was shit [02:05] how do i do that? ;p [02:05] 4.2 i mean [02:05] theres no way to 'downgrade' to 3.5 that i know of [02:06] soych3r: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 [02:06] there was supposed to bne work on new 3.5 repos.. - but ive not heard much about that lately [02:07] spych3r: if you're serious going to 3.5 I would install purge kde 4.1 kompletely (remove kubuntu if you have ubuntu) and then use the sources of 3.5 in the sources.lst [02:07] spych3r: but try this before http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 this explains howto switch to 4.2 [02:07] spych3r: don't forget to take backups as usual, before any change on the system [02:08] thanks :) [02:08] yo, np [02:11] How do I fix GRUB on a drive that is currently on /mnt? [02:12] Dr_Willis: Yes, the UUIDs are the same [02:18] I forgot I had SGD [02:18] I hope GRUB was fixed [02:18] WOOHOO [02:19] I think I'm in business now. Dr_Willis, thank you so much for your help and guidance. It is very much appreciated. [02:19] Anyone try to update kde4.1 to 4.2 and get an error? [02:20] i didnt get an error, but an incomplete upgrade [02:20] me too [02:20] crashed with error [02:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056323 [02:21] geuss I will stick with4.1 love kubuntu! [02:22] i had to remove some package for kde 4.1 then upgrade. [02:22] 4.2 is awsome... i lvoe it... it just took a few extra steps for me to get it to wok [02:22] tjhere was a conflict some how with some file [02:23] am I the only person on earth that thinks the present windows feature is more of a pain then a help? and can I dissable it [02:24] i dont even klnwo what that feature is.. :) [02:24] gues si never used it [02:24] when u get you mouse to the top left corner it bullies you out of whatever you are doing and presents all of your windows [02:25] and I cant seem to get rid of it [02:25] like kompose? [02:25] i saw that one... - and yes. its disableable [02:25] I just dont rember where. :) [02:25] kwin effect? [02:25] it is most anoying when I am gaiming in full screen [02:26] something like that [02:26] not in kde at the moment so i cant look :) [02:28] its a kwin effect I think [02:28] is there a config for kwin? [02:29] system settings -> desktop [02:29] chekc out all effects and screen edges??? [02:30] yep. scree edges [02:31] any one help with custom kernel compile? need help with make menuconfig options [02:31] than you so much dutler spot on [02:31] u bet. [02:32] now to do that to my other 3 computers [02:36] File system check failed. I'm on the command line with 'root'. What should I do to fix the issue? [02:45] how do i get kde 4.2 packages installed with kubuntu [02:46] http://kubuntu.org [02:46] any specific download? [02:50] is it possible to copy the / partition to other using dd and then make the partition changes in menu.list? [02:55] anyone know how to install a wintv Haupauge HDTV CARD? [02:59] who here thinks that the fglrx 8.55 is better than 8.57 (9.1 catalyst)? [03:24] hi, wondering if anyone's about who might have tweaked their xorg.conf for kde4.2 & nvidia 8800gt and wouldn't mind sharing it in the paste bin for me to study [03:24] it's a long shot but thought i'd give it a go ;-) [03:26] WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU ASKING? [03:26] sry caps [03:27] np, i'd like to check out a xorg.conf from someone here who has already tweaked it for kde4.2 and using a similar graphic card to the nvidia 8800gt [03:27] esdaniel: you using the 177 driver? [03:27] one from current repo, yep - you saying i really should go get the nvidia one then? [03:28] esdaniel, the 8.10 xorg.conf file won't be much help , since it depends so much more on HAL than any other version so far. If you take a look at xorg.conf you'll see it's bare bones and practically devoid of editable settings. [03:28] esdaniel: no im using the repo driver yoo [03:28] i learnt the last time i messed around with the one direct from nividia - not keen to screw up again [03:29] esdaniel ,is the 177 driver doing what you want ? [03:29] es BluesKajwell said [03:30] wow, sorry kubs, got you confused - am using the nvidia-restricted from repo, not latest driver from nvidia, have used my old xorg.conf from 3.5.10 install and wondered what needed to be removed/added... hence wanted to check out one that had been tweaked already [03:30] es i have the same card with 1gig of ddr2 ram and using the 177 kernal and driver plays anything you can throw at it [03:30] I'm using the 6600 card with 180.29 driver... pretty much no changes to the standard xorg.conf [03:31] ok, badpc, can you pop your xorg.conf in pastebin for me toc heck out then, please [03:31] esdaniel: how would i do that? === armando_ is now known as hshgs [03:32] thanks astromme [03:33] esdaniel, maybe you could post yours too , it it's working i'd like to see your settings , since i use the same driver :) [03:33] esdaniel: really havent changed much in the xorg works great out of the box no need to change [03:33] es what are you trying to do with your card? [03:33] was googling and saw this one to add to options: Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" [03:34] !pastebin [03:34] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [03:35] thanks blues [03:35] was hunting for that just now [03:35] esdaniel: you try the nv-clock? [03:35] not yet [03:36] I have Jaunty and when I set the konsole to transparent it tells me my deskktop doesn't support it... what am I missing? I'm using the right video drivers (radeonhd) [03:36] twodogs: is compositing enabled? [03:36] * twodogs checks. [03:37] could someone help me with my hauppauge wintv 1600 card install? [03:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/117911/ [03:38] so far been pretty good experience with kde4.2, wallet lack of memory doing my head in though [03:38] lack of memory = when i restart kmail's asking for my passwords again [03:39] other thing that bugs is the keyboard repeat rate shenanigan but not a total drag [03:39] esdaniel: is your card not working properly? [03:40] its pretty sweet, just want to get the best out of it so popped in here to see what everyone else was doing with the config [03:41] so badpc, i've messed a bit with the hauppage ting, wazzup [03:41] where does "amule" p2p store the completed files at? [03:41] ~/.aMule i think [03:42] ~/.aMule/incoming or somethign like that [03:42] thanks :) [03:42] np [03:42] esdaniel: just got the wintv-hdtv-1600 and have no clue how to install it? [03:42] blues, post yours then ;-) [03:42] it's a pain in the butt [03:42] esdaniel, your xorg.conf is a carry over from kubuntu 8.04 and kde 3.5 ..seems to have a lot more detail about your hardware than mine does , including the samsung syncmaster monitor which I also have and is just listed as "unknown" [03:43] i put the sam thing in myself, kinda anal really - makes no diff [03:43] ok, esdaniel , don't think it'll help you tho [03:43] badpc - gimme a sec to find a link [03:44] mine > http://www.pastebin.ca/1336712 [03:46] esdaniel: think xorg doesnt do much of anything but want to try NV-CLOCK [03:47] I can't get my wireless card to work, Atheros ar2413, can anybody help me [03:47] blues, get the tripple buffer thing going ;-) [03:50] Linux-power to the people! [03:50] esdaniel , your nvidia is more capable than my 7600GT ...dunno if a triple buffer (whatever that is ) would work on mine [03:51] :) [03:51] badpc - take a peek at this link, it's got the bones of what i found in guies when i did this ages ago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=758845 [03:51] is anybody able to play youtube videos on konqueror? if so, how on earth you did it?! [03:51] carutsu: have you got flash installed as part of restricted-drivers [03:52] esdaniel: thnx [03:52] yes IIRC [03:52] esdaniel: ^^ [03:52] actaully I'm quite happy with my card . It does everything i need , since I'm not a gamer . I do some videeo conversion and editing , but that's not too demanding [03:52] esdaniel: is that right or should I install Adobe's? [03:53] yeah, i'm giving it a spin here now, usuually use FF for YT, so far not looking good in konq [03:53] youtube is hit and miss with konqueror ...that's why i finally gave in to FF :) [03:53] exactly my problem youtube is too popular to miss it [03:54] nope, no joy on mine with konq, best to default to FF for now mate [03:54] that's why i have to have FF installed :/ [03:54] nothing wrong with ff [03:54] damn [03:54] badpc: i just preffer konqueror [03:54] had the same problem with konq [03:54] nice to do lost in one window - i see benefit [03:54] lost = lots [03:55] badpc: so jumped to FF [03:55] yeah, FF does the job nicely ...konq is being left behind in a lot of ways. I've even switched to Dolphin for file mangement now [03:55] brb [03:55] BluesKaj: the fact that I can have multiple apps in konqueror is what I'm sold to [03:56] FF opens and opens and opens other windows and I just hate that [03:58] firefox only opens one window and can easily be closed [03:58] hi [03:58] good download management [03:59] you can also change the location to were ff downoads your files [04:00] firefox easier to configure than konq for surfing , it's fallen behing dolphin in terms of file management flexability [04:00] behind [04:00] for me it has anyway === luis__ is now known as tigremx [04:01] BluesKaj: its not meant to be a file manager.... [04:02] not any more i guess [04:02] anyway , sacktime here ..nite all [04:05] for anyone who cares, this is pretty nippy now on my setup (AMD64x2-4200, DDR400-4GB, nVidia 8800GT) http://paste.ubuntu.com/117915/ [04:07] so badpc - how far you got with the hauppage? from my experience if you've not get a decent signal you'll be going round in circles trying to get it to work [04:09] badpc - this is an old link i remember studying: http://www.ethics-gradient.net/myth/ [04:09] lol, he's gone, doh! === Gnut[OFF] is now known as gnuton === gnuton is now known as Gnut[OFF] === martin__ is now known as martin99 [04:29] a [04:37] I have a monitor that does 1600x1050. Up until about three days ago it worked just fine with my kubuntu + KDE 4.2 install. Now it only goes up to 1024x768. When booted to Windows I still get the 1600x1050 res. Where might the issue lie? I've tried three different restricted nvidia drivers and the generic. [04:45] helo.. how to install KDE 4.2 on ubuntu 8.10 server edition? help pls.. [04:52] Hi, anyone having problems installing compiz fusion, seems simple, am following a step by step installation it seems that the url to the public key is not longer valid, anyone have any ideas === cthompson_ is now known as tyler_d [04:57] ten [04:58] ok great [05:11] can anybody help me get my wireless card to work, im using an Atheros 5005G card [05:14] anyone? [05:16] most forums online are unable to help me with this issue [05:18] buy another card xD [05:20] i had it working 2 days ago, but then i updated my kernel and it won't work [05:21] the reason for my updating the kernel was due to ACPI errors with 2.6.27 kernel, once I updated that issue was fixed with the lack of a working wireless card [05:21] you installed some wrong then [05:21] something* [05:21] err...idont know about that [05:21] Anyone testing jaunty alpha 4, having problems with some apps and OpenGL after yesterdays updates ? === solid_li` is now known as solid_liq [05:37] i still cant get flash working on 64bit [05:49] How do I run firefox with gtk widgets instead of Qt widgets? [05:59] allo [05:59] il a quelqun svp === _luis_lopez_ is now known as luis_lopez [06:00] quelqun peut maider svp [06:02] hey bud, what's the problem. Qu'est-ce que le problem? === cds is now known as thechris [06:02] jessaye dinstaller kubuntu matt [06:02] i've bricked apt [06:03] I can't remove packages or install packages due to dependencies [06:03] thechris: might have better luck joining the #ubuntu channel and asking for help about apt [06:03] and i can't fix the dependencies because i can't install or remove apps [06:03] thechris: more active helpers there... [06:03] Anyone install KDE4.2 on Kubuntu 8.10? [06:04] as it seems to not work, or have poor instructions [06:04] ubuntu: ok. qu'est-ce cest le problem? [06:04] so far, it seem the only way to get it to work is to install from Ubuntu 8.10, then remove all of the gnome stuff [06:04] une fois que jai fini de linstaller et que je redemarre [06:05] il me dit qui a pas dos installer [06:05] je viens de installer kubuntu par quatres fois en formatant en ext2 ou 3 et pareil [06:06] ubuntu: je pense que tu as le dit de n'installer pas en MBR. Pardon ma francais... [06:07] ubuntu: as-tu une autre OS sure le hard drive? [06:07] il me la pas demander ca matt [06:07] non mon disque est vide [06:08] et puis a la fin de linstallation au paquets de langues ca je fait ignorer car c trop long et la il me marque une genre derreur [06:08] lerreur cest sorry the program ubiquity closed unexpectedly [06:10] can someone help me wit samba to conect to vista and shear files [06:10] ubuntu: combien de hard drives as tu dedant ce ordinateur [06:10] 2 [06:12] ubuntu: join #ubuntu-fr . Il peut t'aider la. [06:12] on peu lol [06:13] yeah, sorry, very out of practice with my written french.... [06:13] tu cest pas ou le pb 6 [06:15] ubuntu: 'pb 6'? [06:15] dsl mon clavier est mal configurer [06:16] je suis en live cd.. ca lag et ca va mal [06:16] ubuntu: heh [06:16] regle la config pour ton clavier [06:17] ubuntu: type: '/join #ubuntu-fr' [06:17] vous pouvez pas maider pour mon pb ? [06:17] je suis sur le salon ubuntu matt mais personne repond.. [06:17] ubuntu: 'pb' == probleme? [06:18] cest quoi ton pb? [06:18] matt oui [06:18]