[00:00] <carpii> some people like it, some people dont.  Most agree its not finished
[00:00] <Raylz> some stuff crashes
[00:00] <Raylz> not rly stable yet
[00:00] <Raylz> at least the kubuntu packages
[00:00] <wildbat> i see guess i will wait till is stablized
[00:01] <Raylz> i guess it'll be finished with the 4.5 release :)
[00:02] <Raylz> i heard it worked quite fine in opensuse
[00:07] <Raylz> am i the only one who dislikes the update manager?
[00:07] <Raylz> it somehow doesnt work well with apt-get
[00:07] <Raylz> too complicated and too slow
[00:07] <Raylz> the graphical frontend
[00:09] <wildbat> agree
[00:10] <wildbat> the most stupid thing is the downloading .... don't ppl use pipelining ... download 1 by 1 ..... grrrrr
[00:12] <failers^> and sometimes i dont find certain packages thru adepts search function while i find them in synaptic
[00:12] <deepfriedsquirre> Gah
[00:12] <deepfriedsquirre> I find that with aptitude
[00:13] <deepfriedsquirre> Oh, and I can usually find virtually nothing with adept; maybe I was using it wrongly.
[00:13] <deepfriedsquirre> *badly
[00:13] <bazhang> apt-cache search package/related works well
[00:13] <deepfriedsquirre> Cheers
[00:13] <deepfriedsquirre> Forgot about that :P
[00:55] <bigsnakke> buonasera
[00:56] <bigsnakke> c'è nessuno?
[00:57] <bigsnakke> somebody listen?
[00:58] <Macer> hi
[00:58] <bigsnakke> hi
[00:58] <Macer> was wondering if anybody here runs kubuntu on a picoitx based system
[00:58] <Macer> like an artigo
[00:59] <Macer> was just wondering if the vx700 chipset had any support for any 3D effects in kwin
[00:59] <bigsnakke> have a suggestion for use a lan printer windows istalled?
[00:59] <Macer> i ordered an artigo a couple days ago and was planning on putting kubuntu on it when it shows
[00:59] <Macer> use a lan printer windows installed?
[00:59] <Macer> i don't understand the question
[01:00] <bigsnakke> i use kubuntu but the printer is istalled on windows xp in other machine
[01:00] <Macer> use CUPS
[01:01] <Macer> actually.. in kubuntu.. you should just be able to go to the printer settings and it will do most of it for you
[01:01] <Macer> i'm pretty sure CUPS comes installed by default.. but if it doesn't you should be able to get it going pretty easily
[01:01] <Macer> also ... just go to google and look for "setting up printer kubuntu"
[01:01] <Macer> i'm sure you'll find a thousand web sites telling you how to do it
[01:02] <bigsnakke> ok...thanks... i searching for...
[01:09] <afeijo> my processor is at 100% caused my kded [kdeinit], I try to kill it without success :( what can I do?
[01:10] <giarca> afeijo: but you killed or not?
[01:10] <afeijo> good, I manage to kill the 2 PID with sudo kill -9
[01:10] <afeijo> I just did
[01:11] <afeijo> but why that happened?
[01:11] <giarca> ok :)
[01:11] <afeijo> I noticed it yesterday, my CPU FAN high noise
[01:11] <giarca> afeijo: kde stable?
[01:11] <afeijo> now it is colling down :)
[01:11] <afeijo> yeah, all OK so far
[01:11] <giarca> goof
[01:11] <giarca> good
[01:11] <afeijo> just some minor Fusion problems ocasionally
[01:12] <giarca> ;)
[01:15] <Castawayz> should i download the 64 bit kubuntu if i have a 64 bit intel operating system? im confused because it says "AMD"
[01:15] <Castawayz> processor *
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> I think all of Intel's 64-processors are amd64
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> At least any that you're likely to have
[01:18] <giarca> it's not called amd64 but x86_64, or i'm wrong?
[01:18] <Castawayz> it's a brand new laptop yeah
[01:18] <Castawayz> i thought amd was a brand my bad
[01:18] <Dragnslcr> It is
[01:19] <Dragnslcr> If I remember correctly, Intel's first 64-bit architectures weren't very good, so they started using AMD's
[01:20] <Dragnslcr> Wikipedia claims that amd64 and x86-64 are the same thing
[01:20] <giarca> in download page of kubuntu.com = 64bit AMD and Intel computers
[01:20] <giarca> :D
[01:20] <giarca> Dragnslcr: yes
[01:20] <giarca> :D
[01:31] <x_link> Hi!
[01:31] <x_link> I need some help with kubuntu.
[01:31] <x_link> Ktorrent i mean.
[01:32] <x_link> I just pressed  something wrong and something dissapeared in ktorrent. I don't know what it's called in english.
[01:32] <x_link> But it's where "File, Edit, Settings" etc. are.
[01:32] <x_link> Does anybody know what/where I mean?
[01:32] <jessie> x_link: the menu bar...
[01:34] <ncfi1013> my ipod was working fine this morning. now i can't get it to mount. ive tried everything i can think of to get it to mount again. please help. can anybody tell me what this means and how to fix it? i have to go to work tonight and i will go crazy if i dont have any music to listen to so i dont have to listen to those all those morons that i work with. here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118226/
[01:37] <x_link> jessie: yes, exacly.
[01:37] <jessie> x_link: let me look
[01:37] <x_link> I disabled it or something like that by misstake =/
[01:40] <Guest31200> o.ò
[01:41] <ncfi1013> my ipod was working fine this morning. now i can't get it to mount. ive tried everything i can think of to get it to mount again. please help. can anybody tell me what this means and how to fix it? i have to go to work tonight and i will go crazy if i dont have any music to listen to so i dont have to listen to those all those morons that i work with. here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118226/
[01:42] <Guest31200> I am lost oÒ
[01:46] <ncfi1013> my ipod was working fine this morning. now i can't get it to mount. ive tried everything i can think of to get it to mount again. please help. can anybody tell me what this means and how to fix it? here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118226/
[01:47] <darkenergy> can someone please give me a definite answer, will bluetooth "pand" work in intrepid now? i'm trying to avoid going through the trouble of a fresh install to find out it doesn't again and downgrading
[01:48] <zaapiel-mobile> what is pand?
[01:48] <darkenergy> bluetooth networking
[01:48] <zaapiel-mobile> kbluetooth4 is what im using
[01:48] <zaapiel-mobile> it works fine on 8.10
[01:49] <darkenergy> it didn't before but that's not what i'm worried about
[01:49] <darkenergy> kbluetooth handles obex and hid
[01:49] <darkenergy> not pan
[01:50] <darkenergy> its the workaround i use for nonfunctional adhoc networking
[01:52] <darkenergy> this is really frustrating, i'm considering going back to fedora
[01:52] <failers> anyone got a .deb for wine 1.1.15 ?
[01:53] <Guest31200> does anyone knows about an icq where u can send and get some pics or music?
[01:54] <darkenergy> zaapiel-mobile: can you run pand at the shell?
[01:59] <giarca> darkenergy: my repo have bluez-compat package that provides pand
[01:59] <giarca> no installed - no tried
[01:59] <giarca> only an info :)
[01:59] <darkenergy> last time i tried it was a dummy package
[01:59] <darkenergy> dummy program
[01:59] <darkenergy> did nothing
[02:00] <darkenergy> that was soon after the intrepid release
[02:00] <giarca> ah... ok
[02:01] <darkenergy> apparently bluetooth functionality has been improved now but there's no mention of PAN anywhere i've looked
[02:06] <giarca> darkenergy: something there is on www but so far from official guide...
[02:07] <darkenergy> what's that?
[02:08] <kalp> hello
[02:12] <ncfi1013> my ipod was working fine this morning. now i cant get it to mount. ive trien everything i can think of to get it to mount again. please help. can anybody tell me what this means and how to fix it? here are two pastebins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118226/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/118227/
[02:17] <darkenergy> ncfi1013: tried a manual mount?
[02:19] <ncfi1013> how do i do that darkenergy?
[02:20] <darkenergy> sudo mkdir /mnt/ipod
[02:20] <darkenergy> sudo mount /dev/sdh1 /mnt/ipod
[02:20] <ncfi1013> in terminal darkenergy?
[02:21] <darkenergy> yes
[02:22] <ncfi1013> darkenergy mount: mount point /mnt/ipod does not exist
[02:22] <darkenergy> "sudo mount /dev/sdh1 /mnt/ipod" first to create the folder
[02:22] <darkenergy> sudo mkdir /mnt/ipod
[02:22] <darkenergy> sorry
[02:23] <wrinkliez> hey guys, what do you use to extract rars in kde?
[02:23] <khalid> hola sala de español porafa
[02:23] <wrinkliez> just ark?
[02:24] <ncfi1013> thats ok. darkenergy mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/ipod': File exists
[02:24] <darkenergy> ncfi1013: you've run the command already then
[02:24] <darkenergy> now run the mount command
[02:24] <wrinkliez> nm, im dumb.  didnt install unrar XD
[02:25] <ncfi1013> darkenergy which is...?
[02:25] <darkenergy> sudo mount /dev/sdh1 /mnt/ipod
[02:26] <ncfi1013> darkenergy http://paste.ubuntu.com/118238/
[02:27] <darkenergy> ncfi1013: good, now open the folder
[02:27] <darkenergy> "/mnt/ipod"
[02:27] <darkenergy> in dolphin or konqueror or whatever
[02:28] <ncfi1013> ok did that darkenergy
[02:28] <ncfi1013> in dolphin
[02:28] <darkenergy> and the ipod is mounted?
[02:30] <ncfi1013> darkenergy in dolphin it is but still not in amarok
[02:30] <darkenergy> ncfi1013: did you reboot?
[02:30] <ncfi1013> darkenergy full reboot or just the xserver
[02:31] <darkenergy> if it mounted then there's nothing wrong with the ipod filesystem
[02:31] <darkenergy> try a full reboot next time
[02:32] <ncfi1013> darkenergy i did that about an hour or so ago also and still no mount is amarok
[02:34] <darkenergy> ncfi1013: did you unplug before rebooting?
[02:35] <ncfi1013> darkenergy yes if i dont when i reboot the computer will want to reboot from the ipod
[02:36] <WatThef00k> is everyone able to compile kdevelop from svn HEAD?
[02:36] <WatThef00k> compile from today or very recently?
[02:45] <wildbat> do anyknow how to fix lid button on nc6320? my laptop's lid button won't work until i suspend or powersaving timer turn off the screen once.....
[03:24] <WatThef00k> do u guys know how to set the cpu frequency
[03:24] <WatThef00k> my cpu is set at 1GHz by the kernel
[03:25] <WatThef00k> i want to set it back up to its stock speed of 2.4GHz for testing an app
[03:35] <wildbat> it should set on demand
[04:28] <badpc> anyone have any idea how to install a Hauppauge 1600 wuntv card?
[04:47] <dennis> quit
[05:17] <glade88> in what way can I make konsole make use of my internet proxy settings?
[05:17] <wildbat> anyone know how do i play rmvb othere then realplayer ?
[05:18] <glade88> systemsettings -> network settings changes it for konqui but not for konsole
[05:18] <Dr_willis> what does konsole have to do with internet settings?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> wildbat,  gmplayer + the w32codecs pack works here for rmvb
[05:19] <glade88> Dr_willis: svn, bzr ?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> those programs would need the proxy settings..  not konsole. -  from my 'logic'
[05:19] <glade88> ?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> most proberly read some enviromental variable
[05:20] <glade88> how will they not need konsole? they are CLI tools
[05:20] <glade88> plus apt-get should be another one I need
[05:20] <Dr_willis> konsole is just a terminal-emulator
[05:20] <glade88> (I definitely prefer it over adept)
[05:20] <Dr_willis> you could use xterm, gnome-terminal, or any of 14+ others
[05:20] <glade88> yes, and my terminal is not detecting my nwork settings
[05:20] <glade88> I know that
[05:21] <glade88> shouldnt network settings in systemsettings be global?
[05:21] <glade88> if it works for konqui and quassel, why not konsole?
[05:21] <kannan> dolphin is very slow..how can i improve its performance
[05:21] <glade88> or why not any other terminal emulator
[05:21] <Dr_willis> konsole dosent have any network settings.. since its not really using the proxy. the apps  are using them. and  if they are not kde specific apps - then they proberly dont read the kde's proxy settings.
[05:22] <glade88> ok, well. I'll put it this way :) I have a Gnome box. Now if I use System -> Preferences -> Network proxy, it changes globally for every single application.
[05:22] <glade88> for svn and bzr too. but not here
[05:22] <Dr_willis> ive never seen that happen glade88
[05:23] <Dr_willis> could be its setting some enviroment variable. check the output of 'set' perhaps
[05:23] <glade88> never seen what happen?
[05:23] <glade88> a min
[05:23] <Dr_willis> that woudl be my guess as to how its getting set.
[05:24] <wildbat> Dr_willes: gmplayer ?  let me try ~
[05:24] <glade88> Dr_willis: I have "core.gitProxy" in the file, nothing more
[05:24] <glade88> file -> settings
[05:24] <Dr_willis> try logging in at a console (alt-ctrl-f1) and try svn and see if it some how sess the proxy that way
[05:24] <glade88> a min
[05:25] <glade88> same
[05:25] <glade88> does not connect at all
[05:25] <Dr_willis> so it appears that 'gnome-terminal' is setting some proxy setting the priograms that get ran under it - read.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> run a gnome-terminal under kde and see if it works?
[05:25] <glade88> no, xterm works under gnome as well
[05:26] <glade88> not here
[05:26] <glade88> and gtk apps x/ (110mb of libs .. sigh)
[05:27] <Dr_willis> you mean to say that 'cvs' in xterm, under gnome. reads the proper proxy setting.
[05:28] <wildbat> Dr_willis: it is for windows don't in GMPlayer
[05:28] <Dr_willis> wildbat,  i play rmbv under ubuntu with gmplayer, and in geexbox also. (which uses mplayer)
[05:29] <Dr_willis> You did install the w32codec package?
[05:29] <wildbat> ya
[05:29] <glade88> Dr_willis: probably.
[05:30] <wildbat> i got vlc, kmplayer w32codec and realplayer but for some reason  the rmvb isn't playing
[05:30] <Dr_willis> run the player from a terminal.. look for error messages/info
[05:30] <wildbat> while it work fine on my windows
[05:30] <Dr_willis> try gmplayer not kmplayer perhaps?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> gmplayer whatever.rmvb
[05:31] <wildbat> i don't have gmplayer is kmplayer the same?
[05:31] <Dr_willis> should be.. but thats no guarentee
[05:31] <Dr_willis> try normal 'mplayer' L:)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> mplayer whatever.rmvb
[05:32] <Dr_willis> the only rmvb i have are some cartoons..  and they all played for me. except  in windows-media-plauyer.. go figure.. :P
[05:34] <wildbat> lol
[05:34] <wildbat> cartoons!!!!
[05:39] <wildbat> lol ~
[05:39] <wildbat> got it work now XD
[05:43] <wildbat> was missing mplayer XD somehow
[05:43] <Dr_willis> wow.. and the magic trick was? :) lol
[05:43] <Dr_willis> heh.
[05:43] <wildbat> lol
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i wonder how kmplayer got installed without mplayer
[05:43] <wildbat> install almost everyhing but the mplayer XD
[05:44] <wildbat> i have no idea
[05:44] <Dr_willis> i dident care much for kmplayer last i used it.. I just use gmplayer
[05:48] <wildbat> gmplayer not got kde right ~ i can't find in in apt
[05:48] <wildbat> it*
[05:48] <Dr_willis> !info gmplayer
[05:48] <Dr_willis> it may be called gnome-mplayer
[05:48] <Dr_willis> !find mplayer
[05:48] <Dr_willis> !info gnome-mplayer
[05:49] <Dr_willis> mpklayer has like 4+ front ends.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !find gmplayer
[05:49] <Dr_willis> mplayer package aprantly includes gmplayer, then theres gnome-mplayer  also?
[05:51] <wildbat> so it is for gnome then
[05:51] <Dr_willis> gnome-mplayer is specifically for gnome.. but it will run under kde fine
[05:51] <Dr_willis> there really no 'just for gnome, or just for kde' stuff. :) but some apps work best under one or the other
[05:52] <wildbat> i see
[05:52] <Dr_willis> im not in ubuntu at the moment to test.. but if you installed mplayer.. it may of uincluuded gmplayer
[05:52] <Dr_willis> try 'gmplayer' at a terminal
[05:52] <sparr> KDE turns on the screensaver if i dont move the mouse for X minutes.  How do I make it watch keyboard and mouse button events too?
[05:55] <wildbat> gmplayer @ terminal = mplayer XD
[05:55] <Dr_willis> technically thats not true wildbat
[05:56] <Dr_willis> mplayer - has no 'gui/controlls' its all keyboard.. you can even run mplayer on the console with the right optuiions and watch videos in the framebuffer
[05:56] <Dr_willis> gmplayer is mplayer wrapped in a simple themeable interface
[05:56] <Dr_willis> smplayer also wraps mplayer (i think)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> now KMPLAYER may be the oddball.. it may actually do things a little differently
[05:58] <wildbat> i see
[05:59] <wildbat> do you know how to fix lid button on my liptop? my laptop's lid button won't work until i suspend or powersaving timer turn off the screen once.....
[05:59] <Dr_willis> I rarely mess wih my laptops lid.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> So no idea.
[06:00] <wildbat> kk
[06:02] <OxDeadC0de> Anyone know why I can't compile programs anymore? I had qt installed to /opt, then I erased that version and installed it to /usr, not I get stupid errors like "cstdlib.h" not found when it's in /usr/include - I've set INCLUDE, INCLUDE_PATH, QTDIR, CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH all to /usr/include, and it still gives me that error
[06:03] <OxDeadC0de> I do have build-essentials and all the others installed it's not that
[06:05] <OxDeadC0de> (I'm getting the errors when trying to compile qt itself, and qt applications like kdelibs)
[06:07] <OxDeadC0de> bah, it works when I do: echo "#include <stdlib.h>" > a.cpp && g++ a.cpp, just not with qt >< ffs
[06:07] <wildbat> sorry  no idea  i am new to linux
[06:07] <wildbat> try in channel C++ they may know
[06:08] <OxDeadC0de> they won't, this is qt/kde issue, hence why I'm asking in a kde based room where maybe a dev is (I also ask in other rooms)
[06:09] <wildbat>  oh
[06:12] <PSiL0> A few days after upgrading to ATI's catalyst 9.1 drivers (fglrx 8.573), it seems like the system hangs whenever I shutdown.. Methinks it is xorg server's inability to finish its process.. is there any way aroudn this problem?
[06:13] <PSiL0> What led to me to believe it is an x issue is the fact when I logoff and try to restart x, the system hangs..
[06:14] <PSiL0> x86_64, 8.10 kubuntu, kde 4.2.0
[06:16] <balrog__> where does ktorrent store the .torrent files?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I would guess in .kde* somewhere :)
[06:32] <songjian> ???????????
[06:33] <maco> so, konqueror has an option to open a terminal emulator. great! but it doesn't have any prompt and just hangs when i try to run a process in it...
[06:37] <wrinkliez> does anyone actually use konqueror as a browser?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> I dont. others do
[06:38] <wrinkliez> lol I think that the kde developers are just reluctant to throw in the towel after theyve worked so hard on it
[06:39] <wrinkliez> it doesnt render things correctly, firefox does, and it has support for plugins
[06:40] <wildbat> browser is the hardest project ~ look at netscape, ie, and not firefox ~ all is broken down
[06:40] <asobi> anyway for amarok to calculate total length of collection without having to insert collection into playlist?
[06:41] <wrinkliez> yeah but why are they bothering with a browser?  use the resources for other things
[06:41] <wrinkliez> that people use...
[06:48] <Dr_willis> one would think that since theres so such a browser standards defined.. it would be easy to make one. :)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> of course the browser stuff is ised in other parts of KDE also.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Linux is all about 'Legos and Layers'  little bits forming togeher to do bigger jobs
[06:53] <maco> wrinkliez: well seeing as firefox on jaunty doesnt start...
[06:53] <maco> and seeing as konqueror has neat features...
[06:53] <wrinkliez> well it is jaunty were talking about
[06:53] <maco> and by the way, it uses KHTML.  as in the rendering engine that webkit uses.  as in safari.
[06:54] <wrinkliez> well then it is some other problem. facebook chat = works in safari, not in konqueror
[06:54] <maco> facebook chat = ew, why?
[06:54] <wrinkliez> lol cause im in college
[06:54] <wrinkliez> and i want to be cool :D
[06:55] <maco> im college too
[06:55] <wrinkliez> you dont use facebook?
[06:55] <maco> yes, but nobody i know uses the chat feature in it
[06:55] <wrinkliez> oh
[06:56] <maco> its like "ok, great. so now we have to keep a firefox tab open, aside from the IM client we've already got open. um, why bother?"
[06:56] <wrinkliez> i dont know, some of my friends dont bother with im client
[06:56] <wrinkliez> :(
[06:56] <maco> theres a fb plugin for pidgin, so ya know ;)
[06:57] <wrinkliez> yeah but then i seem creepy, because im online 24/7 lol
[06:57] <maco> away message?
[06:58] <wrinkliez> i guess i could do that
[06:58] <maco> i'm online practically that much anyway though...if i'm walking with my lappy in my bag, thats about the only time i'm offline
[06:58] <wrinkliez> same here.
[06:59] <wrinkliez> can you change the pidgin sound?
[06:59] <wrinkliez> sound(s)
[06:59] <wrinkliez> well a better question would be
[06:59] <wrinkliez> are there any fitting sounds that can be downloaded somewhere
[07:00] <wrinkliez> lol
[07:02] <PSiL0> hmm, seems like kdm cannot stop when the system is shutting down, thus preventing my computer to shutdown...
[07:10] <federico> ciao
[07:11] <federico> !list
[07:11] <maco> wrinkliez: there are sound themes out there. i usually turn off pidgin sounds
[07:13] <wrinkliez> for some reason i cant get the pidgin window to blink when i have a new im, so im resorting to sound
[07:13] <wrinkliez> D:
[07:24] <CYREX> hi
[07:24] <CYREX> anyone knows how is the performance of kde 4.2 right now
[07:26] <maco> CYREX: i like it
[07:27] <maco> seems faster than gnome to me, actually...
[07:27] <CYREX> can you tell me how do you feel the windows
[07:27] <CYREX> when resizing / moving
[07:29] <maco> resizing is pretty instantaneous, a moment of scrambled widgets as they reorganize themselves from the resize, but no longer of a moment than it takes for the eyes to adjust to the fact that "Omg things just moved"
[08:00] <kronicKoH> hahaha
[08:04] <kronicKoH> 15 mo fuckin mins
[08:04] <kronicKoH> lo
[08:13] <_Pete_> morning!
[08:14] <ockonal> _Pete_: hello
[08:14] <_Pete_> how do I specify which browser is opened when you point a URL in konsole and select "open link" from mouse menu?
[08:15] <ockonal> _Pete_: it seems your browser
[08:15] <_Pete_> currently it opens konqueror and I like to change that to opera
[08:15] <ockonal> _Pete_: kde4?
[08:16] <_Pete_> it's kde4 konsole running on xfce4 desktop
[08:17] <ockonal> _Pete_: ok, wait pls
[08:17] <_Pete_> ok thanks
[08:18] <ockonal> _Pete_: in console: $ls -al /etc/alternatives/
[08:20] <_Pete_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  14 2009-02-11 11:22 x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/opera
[08:20] <_Pete_> I guess need to restart desktop to that take effect
[08:26] <rohan> i'm using kaffeine 0.8.6 on kubuntu 8.04 and the colors are all messed up in it. i pressed "v" and changed clicked "Defaults", whcih is even uglier. how do i get it all back to "normal"?
[08:27] <ockonal> rohan: I don't understand :)
[08:27] <rohan> ockonal: err why?
[08:27] <ockonal> rohan: i'm bad in English :)
[08:27] <ockonal> rohan: but i try to help u
[08:28] <rohan> ockonal: please!
[08:28] <rohan> if i can get the colors to look how they are in mplayer, it's ok
[08:28] <ockonal> rohan: can u give screenshot?
[08:30] <rohan> ockonal: when i save a screenshot from kaffeine by pressing ctrl-s, the colors are perfect
[08:30] <ockonal> rohan: ok, wait pls. I'll install faffeine.
[08:31] <rohan> oh i just deleted kaffeinerc and it's fine now! thanks anyway ockonal :)
[08:31] <ockonal> rohan: :)
[08:34] <_Pete_> ockonal: konsole still launches konquerer when doing open link
[08:35] <ockonal> _Pete_: hm
[08:35] <jussi01> _Pete_: system settings, default applications, web browser ;)
[08:36] <ockonal> jussi01: in xfce?
[08:36] <jussi01> ockonal: oh, /me scratches head, why is he asking here then?
[08:36] <jussi01> _Pete_: ask in #xubuntu
[08:36] <_Pete_> because it's kde4 application
[08:37] <_Pete_> jussi01: now it's working when I changed the settings
[08:37] <ockonal> :)
[08:37] <jussi01> :)
[08:38] <_Pete_> another one, is there a way to change konsole copy/paste shortcut's ?
[08:38] <_Pete_> in kde3 those were configurable
[08:38] <_Pete_> but havent found how to change in kde4 konsole :(
[08:38] <jussi01> _Pete_: konsole, settings, configure shortcuts ;)
[08:39] <_Pete_> oh cool now they are
[08:39] <_Pete_> some progress then :)
[08:39] <jussi01> :D
[08:45] <ockonal> jussi01: on which channel i can ask about programming for kde?
[08:45] <jussi01> ockonal: in what respect?
[08:45] <jussi01> contributing to kubuntu?
[08:45] <jussi01> or just programming?
[08:46] <ockonal> jussi01: mm.. Just programming on PyKde and PyQt
[08:46] <jussi01> ockonal: not sure, Id try #kde for starters, they will likely be able to point you in the right direction
[08:47] <ockonal> jussi01: ok, thanks!
[09:03] <hunt> hey folks. do someone know a good sheel account?
[09:07] <ockonal> hunt: what account?
[09:10] <dutler> hey there, konqueror wants to open all dir in a new window. quite frustrating... any ideas?
[09:13] <jussi01> dutler: konqueror, settings, configure konqueror, file management, misc options
[09:14] <hunt> shell account
[09:15] <hunt>  <ockonal>  shell account..
[09:24] <Assurbanipal> guys i have been trying to install restricted drivers for nvdia 7800 gtx for a while, but it fails. can someone plz help me out?
[09:29] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: what trouble?
[09:31] <Assurbanipal> i have tried to install them several ways... with envy, manuallu, or by enabling the restricted drivers through system settings. but when i restart x, it starts in low grafics mode, saying it need to reconfigure x. i say "yes" and then the x freezes... if i reboot the same happens
[09:31] <Assurbanipal> i can only reconfigure x through the boot menu option, but then it starts without the restricted drivers
[09:36] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: what do u think?
[09:38] <geekaia> Hi
[09:41] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: wait
[09:41] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Try to download drivers from nvidia-site
[09:41] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Than compile tham for kernel.
[09:41] <kp> hi
[09:42] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: if u don't know how - tell me
[09:42] <ockonal> kp: hi
[09:42] <Assurbanipal> i already tried that... i installed them, and nothing happened
[09:42] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: it's impossible
[09:42] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: what did u do
[09:42] <kp> i get error in system settings / keyboard & mouse / keyboard shortcuts
[09:42] <Assurbanipal> when i tried to install the driver, i asked me to compile the driver for the kernel, i said yes, it did install the driver, but the same happened..
[09:43] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: have u compiled them for yours kernel?>
[09:43] <kp> Failed to contact the KDE global shortcuts daemon
[09:43] <kp> Message: No such object path '/KdedGlobalAccel'
[09:43] <kp> Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject
[09:43] <kp> any ideas how to fix it?
[09:43] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: i think there must be something wrong with my xorg.conf... i don't know... do u need to have a look at it?
[09:43] <ockonal> kp: there are many ways in google
[09:44] <kp> happened because i tried to upgrade to kde 4.2 yesterday
[09:44] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Ok, pastebin it
[09:44] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: but after installing drivers it asks to configure xorf.conf
[09:45] <Assurbanipal> http://pastebin.com/m798708a
[09:45] <Assurbanipal> i did what it asked,,, but didn't work
[09:45] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Ok, let's do it from start?
[09:46] <Assurbanipal> ok, what should i do?
[09:46] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: did u do backup for xorg.conf?
[09:46] <Assurbanipal> i previously had an ati gpu, i had problems with it, so i installed this nvidia 7800 gtx
[09:47] <Assurbanipal> but still doesn't work... i am getting mad... what sould i do?
[09:48] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: ok, try to build driver again, than use nvidia-settings
[09:49] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: but when it asks to configure xorg,conf press yes
[09:49] <Assurbanipal> ok step by step... i downloiad the driver right and run it right?
[09:49] <ockonal> The first, stop kdm. Than run drivers-package, when it asks for building - yes. After that yous should choose configure xorg.conf
[09:50] <Assurbanipal> so i should logout?
[09:50] <ockonal> Ctrl + Alt + F1 -you'll get the console
[09:50] <ockonal> there u must to type: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm sto
[09:50] <ockonal> *stop
[09:50] <ockonal> to stop the X
[09:51] <ockonal> did u do this?
[09:51] <Assurbanipal> no
[09:51] <ockonal> ok
[09:51] <ockonal> wait, i'll write for u some manual
[09:51] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: ok?
[09:51] <Assurbanipal> ok i wait
[09:58] <ockonal> http://pastebin.com/m1d6e1173
[09:58] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: http://pastebin.com/m1d6e1173
[09:59] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Print it and try
[10:00] <ockonal> http://pastebin.com/m27c966fe
[10:00] <ockonal> Assurbanipal:  http://pastebin.com/m27c966fe
[10:00] <Assurbanipal> ok... i will openit on my lap and follow it... have no printer
[10:00] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: there are some changes
[10:00] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: see the last ling
[10:00] <ockonal> *link
[10:00] <Assurbanipal> ok
[10:15] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: i get errors
[10:16] <wolfe_> hi all... can anyone point me to the right irc channel to follow the piratebay press conference?
[10:16] <koperton> ...
[10:16] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: what errors?
[10:16] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: it said there are some other installed drivers that need to be removed and then it tried to remove them... got some errors there, and then i continued but when x started, got another error window saying ubuntu is running in low grapfics mode
[10:17] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: give me the text of /var/log/nvidia-installer.log
[10:17] <Assurbanipal> i now get again the same options i was getting before..
[10:17] <Assurbanipal> wait, i am not in x
[10:18] <Assurbanipal> i am waiting for x to restart, but takes long..
[10:18] <Assurbanipal> should i try to reboot? i dont think it responds...
[10:18] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: ?
[10:18] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: yes, reboot
[10:19] <Assurbanipal> and then reconfigure x from the boot menu? i think this is the only way to get into x
[10:19] <Assurbanipal> ?
[10:19] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: u did your x-file backup
[10:19] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: u can just replace file by backup
[10:19] <Assurbanipal> ocko i did what u said..
[10:20] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: u can restore X in console
[10:20] <Assurbanipal> how i do that?
[10:20] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:21] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: and all will back
[10:21] <Assurbanipal> ok... login in
[10:21] <wolfe_> hi all... can anyone point me to the right irc channel to follow the piratebay press conference?
[10:22] <drostie> anybody got any idea how to check disk usage under kde 4.2? It used to be in Dolphin but now I'm seeing a "zoom icon" slider bar there instead. Where did it get moved to?
[10:22] <Assurbanipal> it says... kde detected sound devices... :S
[10:22] <ockonal> drostie: come to your home-directory, right click - properties
[10:23] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: that they have been removed!
[10:23] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: mm..
[10:23] <wolfe_> drostie: check /usr/bin/baobab, genrally under accessories.
[10:23] <drostie> ockonal: thanks
[10:23] <drostie> ^_^
[10:23] <ockonal> :)
[10:23] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: ok.. wait
[10:24] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: really strange
[10:25] <Assurbanipal> what should i do/
[10:25] <Assurbanipal> ?
[10:25] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: after what step did u see the error?
[10:25] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: During kernel-building?
[10:25] <Assurbanipal> no, after that...
[10:26] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Tell me again, pls, what were there
[10:26] <Assurbanipal> when installing it said that some other drivers are installed from my OS-trying to remove them... and then it said it could not reach some files...
[10:26] <Assurbanipal> it continued.... it asked me to reconfigure x-i said yes... and finished
[10:26] <Assurbanipal> and then... the same again
[10:26] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: oh.. Really. U didn't remove old-drivers
[10:27] <Assurbanipal> what should i do?
[10:27] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: which u tried to install before
[10:27] <Assurbanipal> how i do it??
[10:27] <ockonal> sudo apt-get –purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules*
[10:27] <ockonal> and try all again
[10:28] <nikolas_> ockonal: sudo apt-get –purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules*
[10:28] <ockonal> nikolas_: ?
[10:29] <Assurbanipal> nikolas_ is the nick i am connected from my desktop pc... so i can paste u things...
[10:29] <nikolas_> ockonal: E: Couldn't find package remove
[10:29] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: have u install drivers before?
[10:30] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: oops, not for u. Just type command
[10:30] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: ockonal: sudo apt-get –purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules*
[10:30] <ockonal> nikolas_: did u install any drivers before?
[10:31] <nikolas_> i tried... but as i said didn't work
[10:31] <ockonal> nikolas_: come to Adept and remove all things which connected with nvidia
[10:32] <nikolas_> the command should be sudo apt-get purge.... now working
[10:32] <nikolas_> is that ok?
[10:32] <nikolas_> ockonal: should i go to synaptic too?
[10:33] <ockonal> nikolas_: no
[10:33] <ForeverSmurf> is it possiblel to use kde 4.2 with qt4.5rc1 under kubuntu? qt4.4 and qt4.5 are binary compatible right?
[10:33] <nikolas_> ok, it removes configuration files and restricted modules... when it fineshes, what's next?
[10:33] <nikolas_> the same as before? tha man u pastebin me?
[10:33] <ockonal> nikolas_: now try to install driver again. I wrote some manual before
[10:34] <nikolas_> ok
[10:34] <giarca> ockonal: can I ask you why nikolas_ can't go through synaptic instead of Adept?
[10:34] <giarca> I'm using synaptic instead of Adept... :P
[10:34] <guodejun> 中文频道？
[10:35] <ockonal> giarca: adept is very bad in kde4 :)
[10:35] <ockonal> giarca: i use synaptic too)
[10:36] <giarca> I think I have misunderstand :P
[10:36] <giarca> all ok! I understand Adept was the way... I don't think so... ;)
[10:37] <ockonal> giarca: sorry, i'm bad in English. Sometimes i can't understand :)
[10:38] <giarca> ockonal: np I'm bad too :)
[10:38] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: i am in the instalation and it sais it appears another driver is installed on the system. should i remove it? -i will press yes
[10:39] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: yers
[10:39] <Assurbanipal> compiling...
[10:40] <ockonal> giarca: :)
[10:41] <Assurbanipal> searching for conglicting files to remove... unable to open /usr/lib/nvidia/libglx.so.xserver-xorg-core
[10:41] <Assurbanipal> ...
[10:41] <Assurbanipal> what to do now???
[10:41] <Assurbanipal> says no such file or directory
[10:41] <Assurbanipal> i can only press ok
[10:41] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: i press ok
[10:42] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: there aren't another way
[10:43] <manjula> Hi all
[10:43] <Assurbanipal> starting x.... -fatal error, no screen found!
[10:43] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: ?????
[10:44] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: i can't understand. It tried to del drivers before.. If u've done it. And it configures xorg.conf not correct
[10:44] <Assurbanipal> why is that????
[10:44] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: sudo apt-get –purge remove nvidia-glx nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules*
[10:44] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: did u do that?
[10:44] <manjula> i am new to kubuntu. i have installed ubuntu then KDE on this. my problem is i want to use compiz fusion. i used synaptic to installed compiz fusion but it seems i cant get Compiz fusion effects on this. instead i am getting compiz features that can be access by kde--> system settings --> desktop
[10:44] <Assurbanipal> i did all u said
[10:45] <Assurbanipal> now i have toreconf x from boot menu
[10:45] <Assurbanipal> to get in...
[10:45] <Assurbanipal> damn... again...
[10:45] <ockonal> manjula: in console: compiz --replace
[10:45] <manjula> ockonal: i will try it thank you
[10:46] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: what i do next mate??
[10:46] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: it's very intresting.
[10:46] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: I have no any idea... But, u can remove all, and install Linux again. Than u'll have clean-os. And try to install as i wrote
[10:46] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: sorry. It's all i know
[10:47] <Assurbanipal> i tried damn.... i wish i can avoid that...
[10:47] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: if u'll reinstall os installer willn't try to delete files
[10:47] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: and all must be good
[10:48] <Assurbanipal> install without formating the drive u mean?
[10:49] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Clean installation.
[10:49] <Assurbanipal> what u mean? clean??
[10:49] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: Format :)
[10:49] <Assurbanipal> !
[10:49] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: than there aren't any nvidia-packages
[10:50] <Assurbanipal> i am in synaptic and searched for "nvidia"
[10:50] <Assurbanipal> i am purging averyhting related and trying again
[10:50] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: ok. wait pls again. I'll try something
[10:51] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: i should not remove?
[10:51] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: remove what?
[10:52] <Assurbanipal> all nvidia related packages
[10:52] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: u must delete all them
[10:52] <decembre> hello
[10:52] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: and... i see, that there are some problems with nvidia-driver packages. What version did u get?
[10:52] <ockonal> decembre: hi
[10:52] <Assurbanipal> ?
[10:53] <decembre> has somebody do a apt-get upgrade today ?
[10:53] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: sudo rm /etc/init.d/nvidia-*
[10:53] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: try this at least
[10:53] <ockonal> decembre: i did it yesterday :)
[10:53] <decembre> ock : ok
[10:54] <manjula> ockonal: i tried compiz --replace but still it has comiz effects not effects of compiz fusion.... i dont have desktop cube and cube rotate feautered
[10:54] <decembre> and have you any problem with konqueror ?
[10:54] <Assurbanipal> no such file or directory it sais
[10:54] <decembre> I can't use it as file browser !
[10:54] <manjula> do i have to uninstall all  the compiz  from this before i install compiz fusion |?
[10:54] <ockonal> manjula: u must to install compiz-configuration tool. There u'll enable this effects
[10:54] <decembre> this is not good !
[10:55] <ockonal> decembre: am... I dont use it
[10:55] <Assurbanipal> installing again...
[10:55] <manjula> ockonal:  i dont seee a compiz-configuration tool in synaptic
[10:55] <ockonal> manjula: wait, please
[10:55] <manjula> ockonal: ok sorry no prob
[10:56] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: getting the same errors during install
[10:57] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: it logged in!
[10:57] <ockonal> manjula: http://pastebin.com/m3f46dafc
[10:57] <Assurbanipal> how do i check if the driver is in use?
[10:57] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: wait
[10:58] <decembre> it's ugly ! konqueror is a good thing for designing web site
[10:58] <Assurbanipal> it sais that my sound card is removed again....
[10:58] <Assurbanipal> :S
[10:58] <ockonal> glxinfo | grep “direct rendering”
[10:58] <decembre> viewing website as a directory and a site...
[10:58] <ockonal> decembre: wait, please.
[10:58] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: sound card doesn't connected with graphic card
[10:59] <ockonal> Assurbanipal; it's another problem
[10:59] <Assurbanipal> ..
[10:59] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: glxinfo | grep “direct rendering”
[10:59] <makibao> smg
[11:00] <ockonal> makibao: ?
[11:00] <Assurbanipal> it says yes
[11:00] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: what u see
[11:00] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: good
[11:00] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: it seems, that drivers work
[11:01] <Assurbanipal> i enabled desktop effects
[11:01] <Assurbanipal> it works... are the restricted drivers in use now???
[11:01] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: yes
[11:01] <Assurbanipal> because i had 3d effects before, with software acceleration...
[11:02] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: :) Ok, good luck with them ^_^
[11:02] <Assurbanipal> ockonal: i opened hardware drivers... they don't seem to be enablled... is this normal?
[11:02] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: yes
[11:03] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: i have the same
[11:04] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: now just try to reboot. Soundcard must work after that
[11:04] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: and..
[11:04] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: if u want: nvidia-settings
[11:04] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: to configure your screen
[11:05] <Assurbanipal> i don't get a shut down or restart option....
[11:05] <Assurbanipal> !
[11:05] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: yeah ^_^
[11:05] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: just reboot
[11:05] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: by console
[11:05] <Assurbanipal> i don't get that either!
[11:05] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: sudo reboot. It's a bug of kde
[11:05] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: after rebooting it must works
[11:05] <Assurbanipal> ok...
[11:05] <Assurbanipal> wait... iam booting again
[11:06] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: and.. i haven't it  too in my menu. But i use plasmoid on the desktop
[11:09] <Assurbanipal> tnx man...seems to be working ok!
[11:10] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: ;)
[11:10] <ockonal> Assurbanipal: nice to hear it
[11:11] <blackflag> hello all :) which command should I use, seeing files growing?
[11:13] <ockonal> blackflag: hello
[11:13] <dr_Willis> watch ls -l /path/to/file
[11:13] <dr_Willis> works very well :)
[11:13] <blackflag> ahh. :cool, thx!!
[11:13] <ockonal> dr_Willis: can u tell me something about that? Very intresting :)
[11:14] <dr_Willis> whats to tell?
[11:14] <dr_Willis> man watch :)
[11:14] <ockonal> dr_Willis: :)
[11:14] <dr_Willis> watch free  In a xterm.. :) instant memory monitor
[11:15] <ockonal> dr_Willis: wow)) it's very intresting :)))
[11:15] <ockonal> dr_Willis: thanks, man)
[11:16] <weedar> Upgraded to KDE 4.2 on my gf's Intrepid laptop - now the keyboard doesn't work in any KDE-apps, they start placed top-left on the screen without a status-bar
[11:16] <weedar> Ever heard of this problem before? Google isn't returning anything relevant
[11:16] <ockonal> weedar: yeah. just try:
[11:16] <ockonal> weedar: rm -r ~/.kde
[11:16] <ockonal> weedar: sudo aptitude purge kwin && sudo aptitude install kwin
[11:16] <decembre> weedar : backup personnal datas before !
[11:17] <ockonal> weedar: i had the same :) Hope, it'll help u
[11:17] <weedar> ockonal: Thanks! I hope it works :)
[11:17] <ockonal> decembre: yeah))
[11:17] <ockonal> weedar: ;)
[11:17] <decembre> weedar : I think you just need to rm kwinrc !
[11:17] <ockonal> decembre: no
[11:17] <decembre> locate kwinrc
[11:17] <decembre> and rm...
[11:17] <weedar> decembre: What do you  mean by personal data? That won't delete the files in the /home folder ..?
[11:17] <ockonal> weedar: no :)
[11:17] <ockonal> weedar: just do that ;)
[11:18] <decembre> I means mail, adress
[11:18] <ockonal> weedar: your personal-data
[11:18] <decembre> also konqueror cache, bookmarks
[11:18] <weedar> Oh, ok...I'll just make a tarball out of ~/.kde and go through it later if something important seems to be missing :)
[11:18] <ockonal> weedar: :) Ok, good luck ;)
[11:18] <decembre> that's a good idea !
[11:19] <decembre> so anyone has tried konqueror as filebrowser after today upgrade ?
[11:19] <decembre> that seems weird to me !
[11:20] <ockonal> decembre: wait i'll try it
[11:20] <decembre> ock : thanks !
[11:20] <ockonal> decembre: hmm. I think, that all is good. What problem have u
[11:21] <decembre> ock : it's possible I need to restart session
[11:21] <ockonal> decembre: ok
[11:22] <decembre> heuuuuu :
[11:22] <decembre> it's not cool, I tried an other time, and it runs good !
[11:22] <decembre> I look stupid now...
[11:23] <pavan_> Hello. I can't connect Wirelessly on KDE 4.2 for some reason. My network shows up, so all is fine with that, but it just doesn't connect. Wireless works fine on Gnome though. Any takers?
[11:23] <decembre> sometime ago, it said that's a wrong library...
[11:23] <decembre> someting like this
[11:25] <ockonal> decembre: :)
[11:25] <decembre> pavan : do you use a plasmoid to view strength of your wifi signal ?
[11:26] <decembre> ocktonal : it's okay ... :-)
[11:26] <decembre> thanks !
[11:26] <weedar> pavan_: I had the same problem when first upgrading to Intrepid, does trying to connect result in any activity at all or does stay like that grayed out globe?
[11:26] <decembre> I think I will stay here, it improve my english !
[11:26] <pavan_> decembre: No I don't. Just the KDE network manager icon in the tray.
[11:27] <ockonal> decembre: i'm so happy, that i use Linux! :)
[11:28] <pavan_> weedar: The result is that the KNetworkManager icon does  *work* (The rotating wheel thingy). But that goes on for ever, and it never connects.
[11:28] <decembre> pavan_:  when you right click on network manager tray icon, does it shows you the network you want ?
[11:28] <pavan_> decembre: Yes it does.
[11:29] <weedar> ockonal: reinstalling kwin worked great. Thank you again :-)
[11:29] <decembre> pavan_: the wheel means it is trying to acquire ip, dns option with dhcp...
[11:29] <ockonal> weedar: :) I'm happy :)
[11:29] <lobanov> 1
[11:30] <pavan_> decembre: Yep. But why doesn't it connect?
[11:30] <decembre> pavan_ : I don't know that !
[11:31] <decembre> you can try to rm your network kde conf
[11:31] <pavan_> decembre: How do I connect from the terminal? sudo iwlist scan throws up my network okay... Trying to sudo dhclient eth1 or wmaster0 doesn't work..
[11:31] <weedar> pavan_: your network is encrypted somehow, right? With WEP or WPA?
[11:31] <pavan_> weedar: WEP
[11:31] <decembre> pavan_: I have never done this with terminal...
[11:32] <decembre> I am not enouth geek !
[11:33] <weedar> pavan_: I connected a ralink-card to a WPA-network before, used the method here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VidNor#Ralink%20Wireless%20Card%20w/WPA
[11:33] <weedar> pavan_: I bet you could alter that setup to fit your WEP-network
[11:33] <pavan_> weedar: Me look. Thanks
[11:59] <pavan_1> Dumb Q: How do I use Gnome's network manager, nm applet on KDE (err..what's it called?). Sorry for being lazy.
[12:07] <Ben_helsinki> Hi, I need help to install my roadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n in ubuntu 8.10
[12:07] <Ben_helsinki> any help ?
[12:08] <arnis> hi
[12:08] <Ben_helsinki> hello any help ?
[12:09] <arnis> may i know you?
[12:09] <lebowski> Morning
[12:09] <arnis> what?now is night
[12:09] <Ben_helsinki> I have a problem with my broadcome wireless card
[12:09] <lebowski> Get outta town
[12:09] <arnis> i am indonesian
[12:09] <lebowski> I suppose it is indeed night for you then
[12:10] <arnis> where are you  from?
[12:10] <lebowski> US
[12:10] <arnis> what city?
[12:11] <ockonal> :-D
[12:11] <lebowski> Charleston
[12:11] <ockonal> It's a flud
[12:11] <ockonal> le's speak a theme)
[12:12] <arnis> about what
[12:12] <ockonal> About problems with kde)
[12:12] <Ben_helsinki> can someone help me to install wireless card ?
[12:12] <ockonal> Ben_helsinki: what problem?
[12:13] <Ben_helsinki> I can t get it work
[12:13] <Ben_helsinki> or I just installed Ubuntu
[12:13] <lebowski> Define "Can't get it to work"
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> lebowski: its on strike
[12:14] <Ben_helsinki> is not installed
[12:14] <lebowski> Does it not show up, not get an IP, not connect, vomit all over you when you try to bring it up?
[12:14] <Ben_helsinki> lebwski, it seems to be not installed
[12:15] <Ben_helsinki> I have to define :D that I do not know anything about Ubuntu or linux :D
[12:15] <pavan_1> Ben_helsinki: Broadcom cards are hasslesome. You need to do some Ndiswrapper (google for it) magic.
[12:15] <Ben_helsinki> I installed wifi-radar, when I lunch it, it says wirless card not installed
[12:16] <Ben_helsinki> pavan_1 Ndiswrapper does it help to fix the problem ?
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Ben_helsinki: there is no problem to fix.. you just need to install your card
[12:18] <ockonal> arnis: from what city u r? :)
[12:19] <Ben_helsinki> Paddy_EIRE I do not know where to finx the steps how to do that
[12:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Ben_helsinki: what?
[12:19] <Ben_helsinki> I have Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n and ubuntu 8.10
[12:19] <ockonal> Ben_helsinki: there is a google... It'll help u
[12:20] <Paddy_EIRE> just what I was about to say
[12:20] <lebowski> The Googles?!?
[12:20] <Ben_helsinki> I need to find the guide how to install it, I did try google, I lost,
[12:20] <Paddy_EIRE> if only there was a way to _Search_ the internet :(
[12:20] <ockonal> wait :) i'll find
[12:20] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[12:20] <ockonal> http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=ru&q=wireless+%2Bubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[12:21] <ockonal> Ben_helsinki: there are many ways on that page
[12:21] <lebowski> Ockonal, what in the world should I do with that address? Click on it? Print it?
[12:22] <ockonal> just open in your browser :) Click it
[12:22] <lebowski> What's a browser?
[12:22] <ockonal> m... Programm to surf the internet :)
[12:22] <ockonal> Firefox, opera, konqueror
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Ben_helsinki: hey have a read through this... if you have any questions or reach any hitches give me a shout http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=959451
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[12:23] <Ben_helsinki> okay, what about installing loadboot ? to get back to my windows ?
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub | Ben_helsinki
[12:24] <Malic> hi! where can i get this weather plasmoid: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3811 ?
[12:24] <ockonal> hello
[12:24] <Ben_helsinki> sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb ndiswrapper wl bcm4328
[12:24] <Ben_helsinki> FATAL: Module bcm4328 not found.
[12:26] <Ben_helsinki> Well, I better go and eat something :) otherwise I will die of hunger before finding the solution
[12:26] <Ben_helsinki> thanks for everyone here
[12:26] <ockonal> :)
[12:27] <Paddy_EIRE> I like stilts
[12:33] <ockonal> Are there any girls of us :-D
[12:34] <Hardhead> Hi.  I recently tried out KDE by installing it on my Ubuntu distro.  However, I can't get my dual monitor settings to work.  It worked straight out of the box with the gnome screen settings, but KDE just won't do anything other than mirror them.  Anyone got any suggestions?
[12:35] <Malic> does anyone know where i can find this plasmoid ?
[12:37] <ockonal> Malic: a've not founded it ;(
[12:37] <carpii> hardhead, what version of kde ?
[12:37] <ockonal> *found)
[12:37] <arnis_> hai asobi
[12:39] <Paddy_EIRE> heh.. so I guess this is aimed at you ockonal http://xkcd.com/322/
[12:41] <ockonal> Paddy_EIRE: :-D
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> brb... gotta flash the neighbours
[12:55] <ockonal> Ok, guys, help me :) I've never configured my printer on Kubuntu. Help)
[12:55] <ockonal> canon ip1500
[12:59] <ScorpKing> !printers
[13:01] <ockonal> Thanks
[13:20] <enry> help me please i jus installed kubuntu 8.10 over my desktop and the screen give a black flash every 10 seconds
[13:21] <enry> help!!
[13:21] <ockonal> enry: have u installed drivers for graphic card?
[13:21] <enry> no
[13:21] <ockonal> do it)
[13:22] <enry> ok i'm upgrading the sistem right now
[13:24] <enry> ockonal: how can i intall propietary driver?
[13:25] <ockonal> enry: try to get them from device drivers
[13:25] <enry> were is it?
[13:25] <ockonal> kde-menu, tools
[13:25] <ockonal> System
[13:25] <enry> founded
[13:26] <ockonal> there u must to activate
[13:26] <jp_> Hi All. :) Just installed kubuntu from fresh and installed kde 4.2 aswell. But i cannot hear mp3's? I have login music but thts it? Any ideas?
[13:26] <Tm_T> !mp3 | jp_
[13:27] <ockonal> jp_: please write again without reductions :)
[13:27] <jp_> i have installed all mp3 codecs etc
[13:27] <Tm_T> jp_: recheck that first url in that factoid, please
[13:28] <jp_> kk
[13:28] <ockonal> udo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:28] <jp_> done tht
[13:28] <jp_> no difference
[13:28] <ockonal> what problem/
[13:29] <jp_> can't hear audio apart from login music
[13:29] <ockonal> see kmix
[13:29] <jp_> nothing loads
[13:29] <jp_> tried in konsole
[13:30] <jp_> and run but nothing loads
[13:30] <Tm_T> jp_: what music player you did use?
[13:30] <jp_> tried amarok and vlc player
[13:30] <Tm_T> jp_: what amarok version?
[13:30] <jp_> v1
[13:30] <Tm_T> jp_: see 2.x if it works
[13:31] <Tm_T> jp_: or, try with dragon player
[13:31] <jp_> ahh but even if tht be the case then why won't it play audio through vlc player
[13:31] <tibu> does anybody speaks estonian ?
[13:32] <ockonal> tibu: u can't in En?
[13:32] <jp_> here's more info... Testing PulseAudio in multimedia fails
[13:33] <Tm_T> ockonal: what's this "u" ?
[13:33] <Tm_T> jp_: hmm, try without pulseaudio
[13:33] <ockonal> Tm_T: u = you
[13:33] <Tm_T> ockonal: ah then, you should say "you" (:
[13:34] <ockonal> Tm_T: Ok ;)
[13:35] <jp_> no joy here :(
[13:36] <jp_> test sound with HDA NVIdia (AD198x Analog) seems fine but when selecting PulseAudio it reverts back
[13:36] <ockonal> jp_: change in amarok sound-engine
[13:37] <enry> ockonal: i need more help i read thet in kubuntu 8.10 konqueror cannot use flashplugin
[13:38] <enry> anyone know how to fix this
[13:38] <enry> the screen is now ok
[13:39] <ockonal> enry: use another browser
[13:39] <enry> firefox is not installed by default????
[13:39] <enry> i cannot find it!
[13:40] <jp_> Nope, no joy here... in Amarok i have tried: pulseaudio, alsa, oss etc but no audio. Its looks like it's playing but still no audio?
[13:41] <ockonal> enry: you must install it
[13:41] <ockonal> jp_: :(
[13:41] <jp_> :(
[13:41] <ockonal> enry: sudo apt-get install firefox
[13:41] <ockonal> jp_: i have problem with sound too. But not always :)
[13:42] <jp_> same environment?
[13:42] <enry> im sad that i cannot use konqueror
[13:43] <ockonal> enry: u needn't in it
[13:43] <ockonal> enry: type it in console
[13:43] <enry> but compinz is installed?
[13:43] <enry> but compiz is installed?
[13:43] <ockonal> enry: not compiz
[13:44] <ockonal> enry: analog :)
[13:44] <enry> how to change desktop?
[13:44] <enry> ctrl+alt+?
[13:44] <ockonal> enry: there isn't desktop-changing at start
[13:44] <ockonal> anry: u must enble it
[13:45] <ockonal> *enable
[13:45] <enry> i intend how to change pannel
[13:48] <ockonal> enry: what panel? Can u speak more fully)
[13:48] <enry> pannel one and two
[13:49] <enry> we have more desktop in linux the one in the bar
[13:50] <ockonal> enry: damn it :) I can't understand, what u want :)
[13:51] <enry> the pager
[13:51] <enry> in the dock bar
[13:52] <ockonal> enry: yes
[13:53] <enry> how to change pannel using keyboard?
[13:55] <ockonal> enry: sty, i've no any idea
[13:56] <napterk> Hi im missing components for plasma miniprogramms!
[13:56] <napterk> How can i fix that?
[13:57] <ockonal> napterk: install them again :)
[13:57] <jp_> My PulsaeAudio Does not work in KDE 4.2?
[13:57] <ockonal> jp_: i don't know :))
[13:58] <napterk> what do i have to tell adept?
[13:59] <sorset> hi, which package should i install to enable plugins in Gwenview ?
[13:59] <jp_> aha got it!
[14:00] <ockonal> napterk: do you understand russian?
[14:00] <jp_> FYI it was alsamixer -Dhw
[14:00] <jp_> increased PCM and its fine
[14:01] <napterk> no sorry
[14:01] <ockonal> napterk: ok, wait, please
[14:01] <ockonal> napterk: http://pastebin.com/d25fb1a1f
[14:01] <napterk> which pake do I have to install for the components from plasma like Comic?
[14:02] <napterk> okay thx Im just chicking that!
[14:02] <ockonal> napterk: wait
[14:03] <ockonal> napterk: kde 4.2?
[14:05] <napterk> jep Kde 4.2
[14:05] <ockonal> napterk: than u need libplasma3
[14:05] <ockonal> napterk: in that page, wich i gave u there is libplasma2
[14:06] <napterk> yes I found it but it is already installed
[14:07] <ockonal> napterk: kdebase-plasma  and kdeplasma-addons   the main part
[14:08] <sorset> when i want to install kipi-plugins adept removes libkipi0,libkipi6 and gwenview , so how can i add plugins to gwenview
[14:09] <napterk> okay just installing the mainparts
[14:10] <zmay> hello, i need help with driver installation for printer samsung clp-315, printer works but no colour, just black.. using interpid
[14:10] <ockonal> !printers
[14:10] <ockonal> :)
[14:11] <zmay> ockonal: if u dont know how to help stfu
[14:11] <ockonal> zmay: stfu?
[14:12] <Tm_T> zmay: please behave
[14:12] <bazhang> zmay, lose the attitude
[14:15] <enry> kubuntu bye bye it's full of bug
[14:15] <ockonal> enry: :)
[14:15] <enry> i'm reinstalling ubuntu
[14:16] <ockonal> enry: ubuntu is a good too ;)
[14:19] <ockonal> What does it mean: stfu?
[14:19] <kar> Does shipit send amd64 CDs?
[14:19] <bazhang> something not nice
[14:20] <ockonal> ok
[14:20] <ockonal> kar: yeah
[14:20] <kar> And how do i have to do it? I cannot find an option in the site..
[14:21] <ockonal> kar: wait, please
[14:23] <ockonal> kar: hm.. it seams, that u can't
[14:23] <ockonal> kar: but i remember, that i saw it
[14:28] <jp_> \quit
[14:32] <olimpico> has anyone experience with compiz on intrepid?
[14:32] <ockonal> olimpico: i've used it
[14:32] <olimpico> I installed emerald with "emerald --replace" and can't get it removed
[14:32] <ockonal> kwin --replace
[14:32] <ockonal> ? :)
[14:33] <ockonal> olimpico: you want to remove emerald?
[14:34] <ockonal> olimpico: and use standart?
[14:34] <olimpico> ockonal: exactly!
[14:35] <olimpico> kwin --replace gets me back to no compiz, I want to get out of emerald
[14:35] <olimpico> but still use compiz
[14:35] <ockonal> olimpico: just remove it :)
[14:35] <ockonal> in Adept
[14:35] <ockonal> Or.. in compiz-settings manager disable function: extra titles
[14:35] <ockonal> or smth like this
[14:35] <carpii> where does kdevelop keep its config settings ?
[14:37] <anil_kumar> need help on desktop settings
[14:37] <ockonal> carpii: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdevelop/kdevelop/app-files.html
[14:37] <ockonal> anil_kumar: what help
[14:37] <elmar> hello emil
[14:38] <carpii> thanks ockonal
[14:38] <anil_kumar> ockonal: i enabled some effects and now for some reason the desktop seems to be wrapped around vertically...
[14:39] <anil_kumar> i tried to change it back but not succesfull
[14:39] <anil_kumar> dont know if its bug or some effect itself...
[14:39] <ockonal> anil_kumar: wait, please
[14:41] <blue_nick> hello, I have installed the kde 4.2 packages on intrepid, but my desktop becomes less and less responsive after a while
[14:41] <blue_nick> is this some known issue ?
[14:42] <ockonal> blue_nick: :) And what trouble?
[14:42] <ockonal> blue_nick: write it kde-programmers :)
[14:43] <blue_nick> ockonal: not sure I follow :)
[14:44] <ockonal> blue_nick: use gnome
[14:45] <olimpico_> ockonal: o
[14:45] <blue_nick> ockonal: I don't cut my arm if it hurts :D
[14:45] <ockonal> olimpico: ?
[14:45] <ockonal> blue_nick: :-D
[14:45] <olimpico_> ockonal: thanks a lot
[14:45] <olimpico_> ockonal: but I still have the problem of the theme
[14:46] <ockonal> olimpico_: what problem?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[14:46] <olimpico_> ockonal: How can I reset the theme, because the emerald theme is still there when I run compiz
[14:46] <ockonal> BlueKaj: good evening :)
[14:46] <anil_kumar> hello
[14:46] <BluesKaj> ockonal :)
[14:46] <ockonal> hi-hi :)
[14:47] <ockonal> olimpico_: let me think)
[14:48] <ockonal> olimpico_: ok, please write more fully, what u want
[14:48] <olimpico_> ockonal: I first installed compiz and it was working fine
[14:49] <olimpico_> but then I installed emerald and it's unstable
[14:49] <ockonal> olimpico_: sudo apt-get remove emerald
[14:49] <olimpico_> so, i removed emerald, with apt-get remove emerald but compiz still has the emerald theme, colors, etc and is very unstable
[14:50] <olimpico_> ockonal: I think emerald modified the themes in compiz
[14:50] <ockonal> olimpico_: try to delete all, and insall again
[14:50] <olimpico_> ockonal: and i'll like to reset them back to the default, I tried on the CompizCOnfig Settings, without success
[14:50] <anil_kumar> hello...some help would be nice
[14:51] <ockonal> anil_kumar: what u need?
[14:51] <anil_kumar> ockonal: i enabled some effects and now for some reason the desktop seems to be wrapped around vertically...
[14:51] <ockonal> olimpico_: remove all
[14:51] <ockonal> anil_kumar: try to disalbe desktop-effects
[14:51] <anil_kumar> did that
[14:52] <ockonal> anil_kumar: step by step
[14:52] <anil_kumar> how???one effect a once??
[14:53] <ockonal> anil_kumar: u've used compiz or default effects?
[14:53] <anil_kumar> the default ones
[14:53] <ockonal> anil_kumar: u reset them and screen is vertical?
[14:53] <ockonal> anil_kumar: try to disable effects and restart X
[14:54] <ockonal> anil_kumar: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[14:55] <olimpico_> I just tried to install compiz-kde and get an error
[14:56] <olimpico_> compiz-kde: Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed
[14:56] <olimpico_> E: Broken packages
[14:56] <ockonal> olimpico_: kde 4.2?
[14:56] <olimpico_> ockonal: Yes
[14:56] <ockonal> olimpico_: try to install libplasma2. Because kde 4.2 use libplasma3
[14:57] <olimpico_> libplasma2: Depends: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 but it is not going to be installed
[14:57] <olimpico_>               Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid3) but 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7 is to be installed
[14:58] <ockonal> olimpico_: i've removed all compiz-packages?
[14:59] <olimpico_> ockonal: What do you mean?
[14:59] <olimpico_> ockonal: I removed all and installed again
[14:59] <olimpico_> ockonal: as you said
[15:00] <olimpico_> ockonal: But before I didn't install compiz-kde, only compiz
[15:00] <ockonal> olimpico_: do u know russian?
[15:00] <olimpico_> ockonal: But I though maybe that's why is not so stable
[15:00] <olimpico_> ockonal: No, only german, spanish and english
[15:01] <ockonal> olimpico_: http://pastebin.com/d4e23e622
[15:01] <robin_> e det svenska här?
[15:02] <robin_> hello everyone
[15:02] <ockonal> robin_: hi
[15:02] <olimpico_> ockonal: that doesn't work, I'm on intrepid running KDE 4.2, I get the following:
[15:02] <olimpico_> compiz-kde: Depends: libplasma2 but it is not going to be installed
[15:02] <robin_> i have problem can anyone help?
[15:03] <ockonal> robin_: what problem..?
[15:03] <ockonal> olimpico_: wait, please
[15:03] <olimpico_> ockonal: THank you very much for your help, I'll wait
[15:03] <olimpico_> ockonal: I appreciate it a lot!
[15:03] <robin_> my mouse freezes sometime
[15:04] <ockonal> olimpico_: thanks
[15:06] <robin_> anyone have an idea on how to make the mouse to stop freezing
[15:06] <robin_> could it be a graphic problem?
[15:07] <fish> aby polish here?
[15:07] <bazhang> !pl
[15:08] <ockonal> olimpico_: ok, now i'm finding the answer. While i do it why you don't use kde-effects?
[15:13] <ockonal> olimpico_: ok, i've just installed compiz on my kde 4.2
[15:14] <ockonal> olimpico_: try this: http://pastebin.com/d2994e424
[15:15] <olimpico_> ockonal: I already installed all those
[15:15] <ockonal> olimpico_: does it work?
[15:15] <olimpico_> Yes, but still has some unstability issues
[15:16] <olimpico_> I mean, sometime I can¿t focus on a window, and so on
[15:16] <olimpico_> ockonal: What sis you mean by kde-effects?
[15:16] <ockonal> olimpico_: there is standart effects in kde 4.2
[15:17] <ockonal> olimpico_: which are similar to the compiz
[15:19] <ockonal> olimpico_: if u want, i'll tell u how to enable it
[15:21] <yoritomo> hello all
[15:21] <ockonal> yoritomo: hi
[15:21] <yoritomo> i would need help to resolve my problem with firefox
[15:21] <ockonal> yoritomo: what problem
[15:22] <yoritomo> it is always hanging up when browsing, i think especially when using de scrolling bar
[15:22] <yoritomo> where may i find the system log of firefox?
[15:23] <ockonal> yoritomo: try to run it from console
[15:24] <ockonal> yoritomo: than u'll see need errors
[15:24] <ockonal> yoritomo: during firefox working
[15:26] <olimpico_> ockonal: please tell me
[15:27] <ockonal> olimpico_: System settings -> Desktop -> Enable effects
[15:28] <olimpico_> Well, I had those enabled already
[15:28] <olimpico_> ockonal: Well, I had those enabled already, but they are nothing to compare with compiz
[15:29] <ockonal> olimpico_: yeah.. maybe.
[15:29] <ockonal> olimpico_: sorry, i have no any idea.
[15:29] <ockonal> olimpico: just try to disable that effects and try to run compiz
[15:30] <olimpico_> ockonal: No problem, thanks a lot for your help, I assume they have still some problems with dependencies on Intrepid with kde 4.2
[15:31] <ockonal> olimpico_: ;) I wanna help people
[15:32] <olimpico_> Actually, as you said, kde 4.2 uses libplasma3, and compiz-kde depends on libplasma2. Apparently there is no way to install botth at the same time
[15:32] <olimpico_> weird
[15:33] <ockonal> olimpico_: maybe
[15:34] <RurouniJones> Is there any tutorial out there that shows you how to setup secure sharing between two linux machines? (Sharer - Kubuntu, Sharee - Xubuntu).
[15:34] <RurouniJones> Preferably a guide specific to kubuntu and up to date
[15:35] <ockonal> Rurouniljones: just connect 2 machines
[15:35] <jussi01> RurouniJones: do you want to share the whole machine or just a small part?
[15:35] <RurouniJones> Either is fine, whichever is simpler.
[15:35] <RurouniJones> As long as it is SSL'd
[15:35] <giarca> in Desktop Effect setting regarding OpenGL mode is best "texture from Pixmap" - "Shared Memory" or "Fallback"?
[15:35] <jussi01> RurouniJones: sftpFTW
[15:36] <giarca> did anyone know ehat does that 3 options means?
[15:36] <jussi01> RurouniJones: both are on the same network?
[15:36] <ockonal> giiarca: texture from Pixmap
[15:36] <RurouniJones> Both on the same network, I don't just want a secure FTP. I am after file access on one machine from the other.
[15:36] <jussi01> RurouniJones: install the package ssh
[15:37] <RurouniJones> via a GUI ;)
[15:37] <giarca> ockonal: thanks! it's the default set :)
[15:37] <RurouniJones> ssh already installed.
[15:37] <ockonal> giarca: ;)
[15:37] <jussi01> RurouniJones: then open konq, dolphin or whatever the secure ftp client is, then simply do: sftp://ip.add.re.ss
[15:38] <jussi01> or even: sftp:/machine-name
[15:38] <jussi01> err
[15:38] <jussi01> or even: sftp://machine-name
[15:39] <ScorpKing> fish://machine-name/
[15:39] <RurouniJones> That sends everything via FTP though, not streaming doesn't it
[15:39] <jussi01> ScorpKing: fish:// is a horruble hack
[15:39] <ScorpKing> jussi01: why may i ask?
[15:39]  * jussi01 goes to hunt up a good link...
[15:40]  * ScorpKing waits..
[15:41] <RurouniJones> Right, let me rephrase the question, any kubuntu specific NFS guides out there :p
[15:41] <RurouniJones> nm, got it.
[15:42] <jussi01> ScorpKing: on the phone, back in a  few mins...
[15:43] <ScorpKing> righto
[15:44] <yoritomo> thanks oktonal, i am trying it
[15:46] <ockonal> yoritomo: ;) Tell me please results
[15:49] <yoritomo> yes i am waiting to have the problem
[15:51] <jussi01> ScorpKing: argh, need to run out, for a few mins, if you see stdin ask him ;) (/me is grumpy he cant remember why, but got told about it some time ago)
[15:51] <ScorpKing> jussi01: ok np
[15:52] <lucas-lx> i need install a program for read dvd
[15:52] <lucas-lx> i need help
[15:52] <lucas-lx> help me
[15:53] <ScorpKing> !ask | lucas-lx
[15:53] <Dragnslcr> !dvd
[15:54] <lucas-lx> ok
[15:54] <lucas-lx> thanks
[15:55] <ubuntu_> hi everyone
[15:55] <ockonal> ubuntu_: hi
[15:55] <ubuntu_> I'm just discovering kubuntu using live cd .....
[15:56] <ockonal> ubuntu_: nice to hear it :)
[15:56] <toumagra1> slt
[15:56] <toumagra1> j ss un debutant ds le ubuntu inpeu d'aude les amis
[15:56] <ubuntu_> I'mlooking for a stable powerfullanduser friendly  kinux distro ...
[15:56] <toumagra1> inpeut d'aide les amis
[15:56] <ubuntu_> it's kubuntu what I need ?
[15:57] <ockonal> ubuntu_: *ubuntu is that, what you need
[15:57] <ubuntu_> :D
[15:57] <jussi01> !fr | toumagra1
[15:57] <yoritomo> toumougra je parle francais
[15:57] <toumagra1> ok
[15:57] <ockonal> ububntu_: if u like KDE - Kubuntu, if Gnome - Ubuntu
[15:57] <ockonal> yoritomo: ?
[15:57] <ockonal> yoritomo: in English, please
[15:58] <yoritomo> ok sorry, it was just to help him
[15:58] <ubuntu_> I need to use it to work ....,so mysql, apache, unfortunately virtualbox to use win and so on....
[15:58] <ubuntu_> but I'm a newbie....
[15:58] <ockonal> ubuntu_: If u like effects your choose must be Kubuntu
[15:59] <ubuntu_> yeah , I really like KDE
[15:59] <ScorpKing> !lamb | ubuntu_
[15:59] <ScorpKing> ugh
[15:59] <ockonal> ubuntu_: if u like simplicity - Ubuntu
[15:59] <ubuntu_> but I need a system which is easy to use and configure ....
[15:59] <ScorpKing> !lamp | ubuntu_
[15:59] <ockonal> ubuntu_:  Kubuntu! :)
[15:59] <ubuntu_> otherwise I'll spend a lot of time just to make it works propely ...
[16:00] <ubuntu_> likehappendfor mandriva... :(
[16:00] <shadeslayer> hey how do i get the original panel and all of the widgets in it back
[16:00] <shadeslayer> i deleted the panel
[16:00] <ockonal> shadeslayer: by your hands :)
[16:00] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:00] <ockonal> ubuntu_: Kubuntu is the best choose
[16:00] <shadeslayer> an easier way???
[16:01] <ockonal> shadeslayer: no
[16:01] <ubuntu_> I'm trying kubuntu on a desktop , but I already got some problem ....
[16:01] <shadeslayer> so ill just have to look for all the widgets
[16:01] <ubuntu_> so I was unsure ... :)
[16:01] <ockonal> ubuntu_: what problem?
[16:01] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: i'm not on kde4 but i think there is a file called panelrc in ~/.kde/share/config/
[16:01] <ubuntu_> with the resolution display for example ....
[16:02] <ockonal> ubuntu_: you must install graphic-drivers
[16:02] <ubuntu_> I change it , and when I restart ,I alwaysget thewrongresolution...
[16:02] <ubuntu_> I did ...
[16:02] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: move it somewhere else. it might be called plasma<something>
[16:02] <ockonal> ubuntu_: nvidia?
[16:02] <ubuntu_> yep ...
[16:02] <ockonal> ubuntu_: in console: sudo nvidia-settings
[16:03] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing: im trying to get the original panel back,how will moving the file help
[16:03] <ubuntu_> he want to work with 1280 x 1024 resolution , but my old monitor don't ....
[16:03] <ockonal> ubuntu_: there i may to set your resolution and save it
[16:03] <ubuntu_> so I get a quite strange view ....
[16:03] <ubuntu_> I tried it ....
[16:03] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing: BTW no panel rc
[16:04] <ubuntu_> should I edit by hand some config file ?
[16:04] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: the settings that tells the panel to go away is in there somewhere
[16:04] <RurouniJones> To answer my earlier question: sshfs provides encrypted remote mounting of drives
[16:04] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: if you remove the config file it will see that it can come back
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing: haha, you didnt understand my problem
[16:04] <ockonal> ubuntu_: unfortunetly yes
[16:05] <ubuntu_> :O
[16:05] <ockonal> ubuntu_: some old monitores doesn't want to configure correctly
[16:05] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing: im trying to get the original panel back,with all the widgets,etc
[16:05] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: you can also run mv ~/.kde/ ~/.kde.old and reset configs to default
[16:05] <shadeslayer> i can do it manually
[16:05] <ubuntu_> that's why I'm afraid to install it on the laptop which I use to work ....
[16:06] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing:  naa,ill just add the widgets one by one
[16:06] <ockonal> ubutnu_: i
[16:06] <ockonal> ubuntu_: i'm shure, that it'll work fine
[16:06] <ubuntu_> because if I get some problem ......,it means which I can't work ... :D
[16:07] <ockonal> ubuntu_: just try to do it ;) And we will help u :)
[16:07] <ScorpKing> shadeslayer: if you remove a config file then the original config file will be copied into it's place wich means original settings will be resored.
[16:07] <ScorpKing> restored*
[16:07] <shadeslayer> ubuntu_: well with a *bit* of tweaking it runs flawlessly,kubuntu that is
[16:08] <ubuntu_> ok, but probably is better if I try on my experimental desktop .....
[16:08] <shadeslayer> ScorpKing: ah
[16:08] <ockonal> ubuntu_: try it :)
[16:08] <ScorpKing> :)
[16:08] <shadeslayer> already restored half of it from memory,giving my brain a good workout
[16:08] <ubuntu_> yeah , I've already installed ...., it's updating roght now...
[16:09] <Guest69651> ola a todos
[16:09] <shadeslayer> ubuntu_: BTW why would anybody be having problems with kubuntu??
[16:09] <ockonal> ubuntu_: good ;) If there are any questions - tell us)
[16:09] <yoritomo> ockonal, so strange, since i launched firefox from terminal that looks working fine :o
[16:09] <shadeslayer> its based on the same kernel as ubuntu
[16:09] <Andrea_Rubia> alguien habla español?
[16:09] <shadeslayer> !es
[16:10] <ubuntu_> yo un pochito , pero creo que aqui es mejor hablar ingles ....
[16:10] <ockonal> yoritomo: :-D
[16:10] <badpc> How do I get drivers for my Wintv Hauppauge  1600 tuner card?
[16:10] <ockonal> ubuntu_: in english, please
[16:10] <ockonal> badpc: from support-site
[16:11] <ockonal> yoritomo:  now just run it from console))
[16:11] <badpc> ockonal: what support site?
[16:11] <ockonal> badpc: visit card-site
[16:12] <badpc> ockonal: dont you think i allready did that
[16:13] <ockonal> badpc: there are different people...
[16:13] <yoritomo> ockonal, how comes ? that would crash launching from kde GUI ?
[16:13] <ockonal> yorimoto: it looks strange )
[16:13] <badpc> yes you are different
[16:13] <markus_> hi, habe ein kleines problem. habe bis jetzt immer windows benutzt und nun kubuntu installiert. habe eine atheros 5007eg netzwerkkarte, diese funktioniert jedoch nicht unter kubuntu. habe versucht madwifi zu instalieren, bekomme aber nur fehlermeldungen beim ausführen von "make". habe nun ndiswrapper installiert und den mitgelieferten xp treiber geladen. dort steht dass dertreiber erkannt wurde. jedoch finde ich keine netzwerke
[16:14] <ockonal> yoritomo: try to create comand-link for console to run firefox
[16:14] <ubuntu_> there is as well a channel in Italian language ?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> !it
[16:14] <markus_> (join #ubuntu-de
[16:14] <ockonal> ubuntu_: don't know about it)
[16:14] <BluesKaj> !de | markus_
[16:14] <dn> anyone know where i can download the kde 4.2 wallpaper? i think it's called Air?
[16:15] <dn> http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Ubuntu-9-04-Alpha-3-Screenshot-Tour-29.jpg < the one in there
[16:15] <badpc> How do I get drivers for my Wintv Hauppauge  1600 tuner card?
[16:16] <shadeslayer> dn: i think it would be standard
[16:16] <ockonal> dn: i can give u
[16:16] <shadeslayer> dn: just look in the desktop settings
[16:17] <shadeslayer> *apperance settings
[16:17] <scratch_> hello to all
[16:17] <shadeslayer> !hi
[16:17] <dn> i want it for my gnome desktop, sorry
[16:17] <shadeslayer> oh,ok
[16:17] <scratch_> Can anybody help me with Avira installation?
[16:17] <dn> 1280x1024 or similar if possible?
[16:17] <yoritomo> ockonal i got the error now http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-10514
[16:18] <ockonal> dn: wait
[16:18] <dn> thanks
[16:19] <shadeslayer> hey BTW if anyone wants the transperent taskbar back,just use a customized theme,without any customizations
[16:20] <ockonal> dn: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Desktop+Freedom?content=98799
[16:20] <ockonal> yoritomo: wait, please
[16:21] <yoritomo> ok
[16:21] <shadeslayer> hey whats the basic difference between KDE and KDE nigtly
[16:21] <shadeslayer> *nightly
[16:21] <dn> you're a hero!
[16:21] <dn> thanks!
[16:22] <dn> hrm, they are mofidied with a big nasty logo in the middle, and low resolution :/
[16:22] <scratch_> Does anybody knows how to compile the kernel with "Linux Capabilities" (security) as module?
[16:22] <shadeslayer> hehe,get a Kubuntu CD itll have the wallpaper
[16:22] <ockonal> yoritomo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine/+bug/279240
[16:23] <ockonal> dn: wait again, please :)
[16:24] <shadeslayer> !nightly
[16:24] <shadeslayer> :P
[16:24] <Dragnslcr> shadeslayer- the nightly builds are from whatever is checked in to the code repositories every night. I don't think they're ever guaranteed to be stable or even really usable
[16:24] <yoritomo> ockonal looks like that will still pending a while :( as they don't know the problem
[16:25] <mathousalix> hi
[16:25] <shadeslayer> na,dont need stable
[16:25] <mathousalix> how to make khelpcenter autostart in kubuntu but with no gui you now as a service..
[16:26] <shadeslayer> hardly use kubuntu,just use it to show off to friends
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ;)
[16:26] <giovanni> jhghfgu
[16:26] <giovanni> vnkdfg
[16:26] <giovanni> vifbpgd
[16:26] <giovanni> kfnb
[16:27] <shadeslayer> hy
[16:28] <shadeslayer> so where can i find KDE nightly??
[16:28] <ockonal> yoritomo: sorry, i have no any idea
[16:28] <shadeslayer> is it with project neon
[16:28] <mathousalix> whenever i click help a message box claims khelpcenter is not running so i went to system setting and i selected from autostart khelpcenter location but now whenever i log in to kubuntu i get  the khelpcenter window pop up   And is very annoying
[16:29] <mathousalix> how to make khelpcenter run as a service ??????????
[16:29] <yoritomo> thanks ockonal, at least i know it has been already reported ;)
[16:29] <mathousalix> I mean not as a program each time i log in but as a service  (no Gui)
[16:29] <mathousalix> so anybody?
[16:30] <ockonal> yorimoto: :)
[16:30] <ockonal> mathousalix: what u want?
[16:31] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i need khelpcenter to run each time log in so i don't want to get khelpcenter as a pop up
[16:31] <ockonal> mathousalix: You need to autostart it?
[16:31] <orcrist> hi all
[16:31] <mathousalix> ockonal, : yes
[16:31] <shadeslayer> !hi
[16:31] <ockonal> orcrist: hi
[16:31] <ockonal> mathousalix: wait, please
[16:31] <mathousalix> ockonal, ok :-)
[16:32] <ockonal> mathousalix: ok, run system settings
[16:32] <mathousalix> ockonal, : ok
[16:32] <ockonal> mathousalixЖ Additionally
[16:32] <ockonal> mathousalix: Additionally
[16:33] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i did that already but when i log in khelpcenter pops up
[16:33] <orcrist> join #kubuntu-gr
[16:33] <ockonal> mathousalix: can't understand u :) Pops up?
[16:33] <mathousalix> ockonal, : is that a way to change that "Type : application" to service ?
[16:33] <orcrist> #join #kubuntu-gr
[16:33] <orcrist> grrrrr
[16:33] <orcrist> help!...
[16:33] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i means it opens the window of khelpcenter
[16:34] <ockonal> mathousalix: and what u need
[16:34] <ockonal> orcrist: what problem?
[16:34] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i need only to be able to click wheneveri want tohelp buttons
[16:34] <orcrist> how can I join the #kubuntu-gr??
[16:34] <ockonal> orcrist: type: /join #...
[16:34] <mathousalix> ockonal, : and not get in my face the error khelpcenter is not running
[16:34] <orcrist> ow yes! thnxxxxx :))
[16:35] <mathousalix> ockonal, : did i maked clear ?
[16:35] <mathousalix> ockonal, : english is not my first language so i do my best :-)
[16:36] <orcrist> ockonal: thnx!
[16:36] <ockonal> orcrist: ;) Good luck
[16:36] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i think you understand what is the problem
[16:36] <ockonal> mathousalix: not sure :)
[16:36] <mathousalix> ockonal, : each time i log in
[16:36] <dn> ockonal: did you find it?
[16:36] <mathousalix> ockonal, : khelpcenter opens a khelpcenter window
[16:36] <ockonal> dn: i do it
[16:37] <ockonal> mathousalix: yes
[16:37] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i don't want that
[16:37] <ockonal> mathousalix: and what u want
[16:37] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i just want khelpcenter to be availaible
[16:37] <mathousalix> ockonal, : whenever i click a help button or menu in kde
[16:38] <mathousalix> ockonal, : whenever i log in
[16:38] <ockonal> mathousalix: hm
[16:38] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i remember with kde 3** i didn't had this problem
[16:39] <mathousalix> ockonal, : so what do you suggest ?
[16:40] <ockonal> mathousalix: i',m thinking
[16:41] <mathousalix> ockonal, : in http://www.captain.at/howto-autostart-program-in-kde-gnome.php
[16:41] <Firestorm> .
[16:42] <ockonal> dn: sry, i can't find it :(
[16:42] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i  will try to put & parameter after kdehelpcenter and i will tell you if it worked :-)
[16:43] <dn> isn't it in /usr/share somewhere? kde4/ maybe?
[16:43] <ockonal> mathousalix: ok, good luck! ;)
[16:43] <mathousalix> ockonal, : thanks :-)
[16:44] <ockonal> dn: i have to go to find it)
[16:48] <ubuntu_> I'm back .....
[16:48] <ubuntu_> I restart Kubuntu afetr install and update it ....
[16:48] <ockonal> ubuntu_: :)
[16:49] <ubuntu_> when I restart I get an error ....
[16:49] <ubuntu_> well , something like that ---ALERT ! /dev/disk/by-uuid/..........does not exist. Droppingto a shell!--
[16:49] <ubuntu_> is an alert, but I can't understand what I should do ..
[16:50] <dn> one of your hard drives has moved its position
[16:50] <dn> or isn't there
[16:50] <ubuntu_> well actually there is just 1 drive and is the one where run kubuntu ....
[16:51] <dn> do 'cat /etc/fstab'
[16:51] <ockonal> dn: sry, i can't find it
[16:51] <avihayb> yellow
[16:51] <dn> ockonal: thanks for looking mate!
[16:51] <ockonal> dn: ;)
[16:52] <ubuntu_> answer "not found"
[16:52] <avihayb> I was runing around looking for a way to change the desktop background in kde4.1 on a kubuntu install, now, I'm guessing that it can be done by editing some text file, but I won't bother with it
[16:53] <avihayb> I couldn't find it, and decided to wait for the next update
[16:53] <ockonal> avihayb: u want to know how to change background-image?
[16:53] <avihayb> ya
[16:53] <ockonal> *hot to change
[16:53] <avihayb> in kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.1
[16:53] <ockonal> right click -> Appearance Settings
[16:54] <ockonal> And choose image from list
[16:54] <avihayb> well, it didn't exsist in kde 4.1
[16:54] <avihayb> not that I noticed
[16:54] <avihayb> and I looked hard
[16:54] <ockonal> avihayb: hm, what didn't exists
[16:55] <avihayb> did you upgread to kde4.2?
[16:55] <ockonal> avihayb: yeah
[16:56] <avihayb> well, in kde4.1, i belive that there isn't an apperence settings option in the desktop rightclick menu.
[16:56] <ockonal> avihayb: yes, and in next menu can choose the image
[16:56] <ubuntu_> digiting exit ..... "no resume image, running normal boot " or something like that ....
[16:56] <avihayb> well, I could be wrong, but I didn't see it, not then, oh, well
[16:57] <ubuntu_> I just install it now in a empty disk , so which redume image he is looking for ?
[16:57] <ockonal> avihayb: I know, that i changed bg-image, when i have kde 4.1
[16:57] <avihayb> ok, well, my bad then...
[16:57] <ockonal> avihayb: ;)
[16:58] <avihayb> I'm guessing I'm not the only one whos machin has trouble with hibernation...
[17:02] <ubuntu_> noonecan help me with fstab please ?
[17:03] <avihayb> ubuntu_: what's the matter? something not mounting on startup?
[17:03] <ubuntu_> I get an Alert when I boot the system
[17:04] <avihayb> "no resume image, running normal boot "
[17:04] <shadeslayer> hehe look at me up there,,joined through irssi
[17:04] <ubuntu_> digiting exit , I got a normal boot , but I don't want do the same any time a switch on my computer
[17:05] <ubuntu_> si I'm checing now fstab
[17:05] <avihayb> what is "digiting exit"
[17:06] <ubuntu_> ok ....., when the system stop with alert ...show me a kind of shell ....
[17:07] <ubuntu_> but i can't see for example , file from my disk ....
[17:07] <avihayb> when you shutdown or when you turn it up?
[17:07] <avihayb> up->on
[17:07] <ubuntu_> so using help trying to figure out , I got a list of command .....
[17:07] <ubuntu_> I just tried with exit and is gone ....
[17:08] <ubuntu_> now I have my desktop
[17:08] <ubuntu_> when I turn it up ...
[17:08] <arkygeek> hi everyone
[17:08] <arkygeek> !mac
[17:09] <arkygeek> where do i go for specifically ubuntu on imacs?
[17:09] <arkygeek> !apple
[17:09] <ubuntu_> it was looking for a resume image , but I have jing Kubuntu ...ust one disk connected and is the one where is runn
[17:09] <ubuntu_> ops ...
[17:09] <ubuntu_> sorry ..
[17:10] <ubuntu_> it was looking for a resume image , but I have just one disk connected and is the one where is running Kubuntu
[17:10] <arkygeek> !macs
[17:10]  * arkygeek sighs
[17:11] <arkygeek> anyway, does anyone know if i can get my sleep light on my white 24" imac to blink on demand?  I want to use it as an email notification
[17:11] <avihayb> well, it's wird, when it looks for a resume image on my kubuntu, it sometimes finds it, sometimes it dosent. when it dosent, it simply loads up as if nothing happend
[17:11] <arkygeek> i gave up on blinkd making my keyboard blink - that just donesn't seem to be going to ever work
[17:12] <ubuntu_> not in mine unfortunately ....
[17:12] <ubuntu_> surely isn't the best way to start with Kubuntu for me .. :D
[17:15] <avihayb> well, my hibernate used to fail to load one out of two times. I looked around in synaptic, and found a package called hibernate, and now it fails once every 4 times
[17:16] <ockonal> avihayb: what does this package do
[17:16] <avihayb> I havn't checked by hand, but the description says it changes some of the deafult scripts
[17:16] <avihayb> !hibernate
[17:17] <avihayb> !ubotto hibernate packgae
[17:17] <avihayb> bahh
[17:17] <ockonal> :-D
[17:17] <ockonal> Google will help me ;)
[17:18] <ubuntu_> ok I understood ,if I get the problem just installing,  probably isn't the right distro for me .......
[17:18] <ockonal> ubuntu_: i'm sorry )
[17:18] <ockonal> ubuntu_: i think, that ubuntu will help u
[17:18] <ubuntu_> someone can suggest me a distrò really user friendly please .....?
[17:19] <ockonal> ubuntu_: ubuntu :) It's gnome
[17:19] <Mooqball> hihi
[17:19] <ockonal> ubuntu_: u also can use non-debian distro, like OpenSuse
[17:19] <Mooqball> I don't know what the deal is but I cannot for the life of me get connected to my wireless network on my freshly installed kubuntu partition
[17:19] <ubuntu_> I know , but I don't rally like gnome....
[17:19] <ubuntu_> sorry ...
[17:19] <ockonal> ubuntu_: i'm too :)
[17:20] <Mooqball> im typing in the passphrase, the network manager cranks.. and goes back to grey
[17:20] <ockonal> ubuntu_: can u work with non-debian distros
[17:20] <ockonal> ubuntu_: if yes, try OpenSuse
[17:20] <ockonal> Mooqball: what kde
[17:20] <avihayb> another one for the gnome "don't likers"
[17:20] <ubuntu_> I tried nad is even worst ....
[17:20] <Mooqball> whatever one comes with a freshly installed kubuntu ? =P dunno
[17:20] <ubuntu_> I tried to install it and doesn't work very well....
[17:20] <ockonal> Mooqball: it's silly
[17:21] <ubuntu_> I didn't get connection , audio , video driver and so on....
[17:21] <ockonal> Mooqball: sorry, but how can i know, what kubuntu did you install?
[17:21] <ubuntu_> should I spend few year probably to make it works ....
[17:21] <Mooqball> 8.10 intepid ibex 32 bit
[17:21] <avihayb> as I recall, the network manager is broken in a fresh install, and an upgrade fixes it, only problem is you need that network working
[17:21] <Mooqball> i did plug directly into my cable modem but even then i still cant connect
[17:22] <Mooqball> does that require manual config
[17:22] <avihayb> you can't connect via the cable?
[17:22] <Mooqball> nope
[17:23] <avihayb> well, i had some dhcp problems, so I manualy configured it, the official release notes say that dhcp works fine but manual config was broken
[17:23] <Mooqball> all right, ill try manually configuring
[17:23] <ubuntu_> Ill' keep going with mandriva , even if I'm not very happy with that .....
[17:24] <ubuntu_> thanks a lot to everyone .....
[17:24] <avihayb> I think I actualy cryed out of fustration after the upgrade where I was stuck with a computer that couldn't connect
[17:25] <Mooqball> do you think it's possible that it is a conflict that both partitions have the same username? I just realized that
[17:25] <blackflag> !san
[17:25] <blackflag> !iscsi
[17:25] <arrrghhh> howdy.  i broke my kubuntu.  the screen is set to 1440x900 (which is the proper res, works fine in xfce and gnome) but in kde it goes off the screen on the bottom and right side.  but it's not related to my profile (i renamed .kde and .kde4 folders in my $HOME) plus i completely reinstalled kde from scratch using the psychocats method to get back to "pure gnome".  i don't know what else could be wrong...
[17:26] <avihayb> luckily, one of the linux support personal helped me with the manual config
[17:26] <arrrghhh> i have kde4.2 with the "experimental" repo in my sources.list as instructed on kubuntu.org.
[17:27] <avihayb> I had to figure out what the gateway ip was because noone knew
[17:28] <avihayb> arrrghhh: if it were an older version on xorg, I'd say mess around with xorg.cfg, but I be that iy's mostly empty
[17:28] <arrrghhh> yea the newer the xorg version the less it uses xorg.conf it seems.
[17:29] <arrrghhh> like i said, setup wonderfully in xfce/gnome using nvidia-settings.  same xorg settings in kde...
[17:30] <napterk> hello! how do I start systemsettings as a root under kde 4.2
[17:30] <napterk> ?
[17:31] <arrrghhh> napterk, sudo systemsettings?
[17:31] <arrrghhh> w/o the "?" obviously...
[17:31] <mathousalix> ockonal, :
[17:31] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i found the problem :-)
[17:32] <shadeslayer> hehe agree with arrrghhh
[17:32] <mathousalix> ockonal, : it was khelpcenter  problem
[17:33] <ockonal> mathousalix: :)
[17:33] <mathousalix> ockonal, : if you dont have some help file or just did'nt build the index of help files
[17:34] <napterk> arrrghhh: yeah, right. grrr. But why isnt it possible to change the theme of Desktop Designs
[17:34] <mathousalix> ockonal, : then a message box claims khelpcenter is not running
[17:34] <arrrghhh> napterk, not sure what you mean by that.
[17:34] <mathousalix> ockonal, : but it just can't find the help files because they did not exist :-)
[17:35] <mathousalix> ockonal, : so the message box is simply confusing
[17:35] <arrrghhh> so why would my kde session have a screwed up screen but gnome/xfce don't?  they're all set to 1440x900.
[17:35] <mathousalix> ockonal, : can you tell me how move the panel in kde desktop from top to bottom?
[17:36] <ockonal> mathousalix: kde 4.2?
[17:36] <mathousalix> ockonal, : no i the 4.1
[17:37] <ockonal> mathousalix: ok. Unlock widgets
[17:37] <mathousalix> ockonal, : ok next ?
[17:37] <squid0> hi folks. I'm having issues with knetworkmanager. when I connect first to a wifi network, and then plug in an ethernet cable, I get no internet connectivity: firefox says I'm not connected to the internet, for example. is this a known issue with knetworkmanager?
[17:37] <ockonal> mathousalix: the first i advise you to update kde :)
[17:37] <mathousalix> ockonal, : how can i  put it to the bottom of the screen ?
[17:38] <snikker> new news about bluetooth for kde?
[17:38] <ockonal> mathousalix: ok, there is an icon on the right part of the panel
[17:38] <mathousalix> ockonal, : yes there is
[17:38] <ockonal> mathousalix: click iut
[17:38] <mathousalix> ockonal, : yes i clicked it
[17:38] <ockonal> mathousalix: Screen Edge
[17:38] <ockonal> mathousalix: and move panel to the bottom
[17:39] <mathousalix> ockonal, : oooooooooo THanksssssssssss
[17:39] <ockonal> mathousalix: :)))))))))
[17:39] <napterk>  arrrghhh: sorry, have to translate the applications from german into english, not sure what the exact description is. however, kubuntu-de isnt much going on.  I want to change the design themen from Oxygen to Glassified, but i cant apply it:(
[17:39] <mathousalix> ockonal, : it was so easy!!!!!!!!!!
[17:39] <ghostdog> need some, probably really simple. I just got a new HDTV and need to change the dpi for my kdm
[17:39] <michael__> Can anyone offer advice about the 8.04 -> 8.10 upgrade via adept_manager?
[17:39] <mathousalix> ockonal, : i had it there sice the summer !!!!!:-)
[17:39] <arrrghhh> napterk, hrm.  works fine for me, sorry.
[17:39] <ockonal> mathousalix: :-D
[17:39] <mathousalix> ockonal, : ooo my god
[17:40] <ghostdog> question is, how do I change the dpi on kdm
[17:40] <mathousalix> ockonal, : great
[17:40] <ockonal> mathousalix: for me it's impossible to make that panel at top :)
[17:40] <arrrghhh> there's a switch you can pass to adept to do a dist-upgrade michael__ ... i forget, -d for update-manager.
[17:40] <mathousalix> ockonal, : :-)
[17:40] <ockonal> mathousalix: *to live with that panel at top
[17:41] <mathousalix> ockonal, : me to and now i reborn ... :-)
[17:41] <michael__> Hi arrrghhh, thanks. I've already upgraded, but while installing the packages, my root directory filled up and it aborted. It had already uninstalled adept_manager, however, so I couldn't restart it to finish the installation. :)
[17:41] <ockonal> mathousalix: :-D
[17:41] <shadeslayer> how do i force mount a locked drive??
[17:41] <arrrghhh> michael__, then use aptitude?  or apt-get?
[17:42] <michael__> I've restarted and used aptitude to upgrade to 4.2 with the ppa libraries...
[17:42] <mathousalix> ockonal,  :   you suggested me to update kde4.2 , but it is not yet in the repositories doyou mean that i should install it by hand because it is great ?
[17:42] <michael__> But it seems like I've got 3.5 mixed in here in some ways, and some plasmoids aren't working...I wonder if there's any way to complete the upgrade or know what was undone so I can do it myself.
[17:42] <ockonal> mathousalix: u mustn't install it by hand :)
[17:42] <ockonal> mathousalix: just add extra-repository
[17:43] <mathousalix> ockonal, : can i find a deb package of kde 4.2 or i have to compile it ?
[17:43] <mathousalix> ockonal, : what extra ?
[17:43] <ockonal> mathousalix: just add repository. And update system :)
[17:43] <arrrghhh> mathousalix, kubuntu.org has directions.  just add a repo and update.
[17:43] <ockonal> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[17:43] <mathousalix> arrrghhh, : hmmmm
[17:43] <mathousalix> ockonal, : thanks
[17:43] <ockonal> mathousalix: :)
[17:44] <ockonal> mathousalix: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
[17:44] <arrrghhh> that's the one.  then you have to authenticate the gpg.
[17:44] <ockonal> mathousalix: to add the key
[17:44] <arrrghhh> yea that one.
[17:44] <ockonal> arrrghhh: :)
[17:44] <arrrghhh> kubuntu.org has that info :P
[17:44] <ockonal> arrrghhh: yeah)
[17:44] <wrinkliez> whens kubuntu 9.04 released again?
[17:44] <wrinkliez> like 2 months?
[17:45] <arrrghhh> april
[17:45] <arrrghhh> something
[17:45] <wrinkliez> coool
[17:45] <arrrghhh> i heard it's not going to incorporate ext4 :(
[17:46] <arrrghhh> it should support it if they use the new kernel.
[17:46] <wrinkliez> whats ext4?
[17:46] <arrrghhh> new filesystem
[17:46] <wrinkliez> oh i see
[17:46] <ockonal> wrinkliez: filesystem
[17:46] <ockonal> :)
[17:46] <arrrghhh> faster than ext3
[17:46] <arrrghhh> smarter
[17:46] <arrrghhh> better, stronger!
[17:46] <wrinkliez> i suppose we are using ext 3 right now
[17:46] <wrinkliez> haha
[17:46] <arrrghhh> yessir.  well by default
[17:46] <arrrghhh> my mythbox uses xfs.
[17:47] <arrrghhh> and ext3
[17:47] <ockonal> wrinkliez: did u try ext4?
[17:47] <wrinkliez> nope
[17:48] <arrrghhh> i heard you can mount your existing ext3 drives as ext4
[17:48] <michael__> ockonal: Do you know, if I just add the ppa repository and upgrade, will that complete an interrupted upgrade from 8.04 -> 8.10?
[17:48] <arrrghhh> and you'll get a few benefits
[17:49] <arrrghhh> michael__, you'll probably have to do a dkpg-configure -a
[17:50] <michael__> arrrghhh: I've done that...everything looks like it's in a stable state, just not necessarily a desirable one, i.e. kde might not have been fully upgraded.
[17:50] <wrinkliez> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_ext4&num=1
[17:50] <wrinkliez> ext4 9.04
[17:50] <ockonal> michael__: sry, don't know. I think, it must
[17:50] <arrrghhh> you could try adding the repo and updating
[17:50] <wrinkliez> or is it just kubuntu that won't get ext4 support
[17:50] <arrrghhh> do a aptitude update/safe-upgrade (both)
[17:50] <michael__> arrrghhh: Some plasmoids are missing and I'm getting 3.5 and 4.2 information for things like networks appearing and disappearing.
[17:50] <arrrghhh> or apt-get update/dist-upgrade (both)
[17:50] <arrrghhh> hrm
[17:51] <michael__> Okay...will look...
[17:51] <arrrghhh> michael__, you might want to follow the "pure gnome" instructions on psychocats and reinstall kde completely.
[17:51] <mathousalix> ockonal, : upgrating :-) upgrating :-) upgrating :-)
[17:52] <mathousalix> ockonal, : bye
[17:52] <ockonal> mathousalix: bye
[17:52] <mathousalix> ockonal,  : thanks
[17:52] <ockonal> mathousalix: :)
[17:52] <arrrghhh> i just want to know why kde can't handle my screen all of the sudden!
[17:52] <arrrghhh> this didn't happen after i updated to 4.2...
[17:55] <michael__> arrrghhh: That's an interesting idea...I'll try to adapt that to clear things out and get things clean again.
[17:55] <arrrghhh> yea if you google pure gnome you'll find it.
[17:55] <michael__> arrrghhh: Well, my root drive filled up and the installation aborted. It had also uninstalled adept_manager by then. :( lol
[17:57] <michael__> The things I'm mostly wondering about are along the lines of having to change any system configurations or identifying the system as 8.10 instead of 8.04, that kind of thing, the things apt wouldn't take care of.
[18:13] <arrrghhh> your root drive filled up?  i wouldn't recommend that.
[18:13] <xain> Hello everyone.
[18:14] <wrinkliez> hi
[18:14] <rebel_> Kubuntu + jaunty + ext4 + amd64 = leetness
[18:14] <wrinkliez> im afraid of 9.04
[18:15] <wrinkliez> last time i tried it i didnt get sound or a mouse D:
[18:15] <arrrghhh> lol yea i'm not sure if i should go to 9.04 yet
[18:15] <Andry_Afk> hi, could anybody help me to update the repository?  I cant find anything under adept, only stuff already installed
[18:15] <arrrghhh> my screen is hosed, but in kde only... doesn't make sense.
[18:15] <rebel_> it's working great here
[18:15] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, are you adding a repo?
[18:16] <rebel_> i love how my sysreq keys actually work now.
[18:16] <Malic> hi! I have still problems with kde 4.2. It often freezes my workspace . Do you have the same problems? Working with kde 4.2 is impossible for me, because the only thing i can do after a freeze is to press the off button
[18:16] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: how do I check if I already got some?
[18:16] <Andry_Afk> I have the submenu "view" of adept which is disabled
[18:16] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, it's in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[18:17] <xain> Malic: Do what i did, downgrade back to 8.04.
[18:18] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: seems to be some links in there, but I fail while trying to do "sudo apt-get install"
[18:18] <kalib> What should I install to run rmvb files in my kaffeine???
[18:18] <Andry_Afk> I tryied with firefox, putty, wireshark  but I got an error
[18:19] <Malic> :) xain. i will become eye cancer when i do that
[18:19] <xain> Malic: Haha.
[18:19] <rebel_> VT switching works again :)
[18:19] <xain> Malic i had no choice myself but to downgrade. : /
[18:19] <xain> Running an intel 945GMA...
[18:21] <xain> Anyone know how i can change the Modifier keys for Xmapping?
[18:21] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, pastebin it.
[18:22] <arrrghhh> pastebin the output of "sudo aptitude install firefox"
[18:22] <arrrghhh> or apt-get whatever
[18:22] <rebel_> i'm new to KDE4
[18:22] <kalib> anyone???
[18:22] <rebel_> how do i get my plasmoids to appear in the dashboard layer only?
[18:23] <arrrghhh> kalib, if you already have kubuntu-restricted-extras i'm not sure.  google?  i think real media files are baaaaaaaaaaad juju.
[18:24] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: cant pastebin cause i'm not typing from that PC, besides it's not english.  however it says that it cant find that packet
[18:24] <kalib> thanks
[18:24] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, that doesn't help me.  there's a german channel
[18:24] <arrrghhh> !de | Andry_Afk
[18:25] <wrinkliez> dang
[18:25] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: is there a command to make it update the repository?
[18:25] <Andry_Afk> cause I think it doesnt
[18:25] <Andry_Afk> I feel more confortable with command line
[18:25] <hellsing> apt-get update?
[18:26] <Andry_Afk> hellsing: ok, it's a dns issue
[18:26] <Andry_Afk> I forgot to add a dns server to my nic
[18:26] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, yea apt-get update would update your repos.
[18:26] <arrrghhh> d'oh.
[18:27] <Andry_Afk> can i do with "sudo ifconfig eth0 ----"  ?
[18:27] <White_Pelican> is Kubuntu for Intrepid going to be LTS?
[18:28] <Unksi> White_Pelican: no, hardy was lts and next lts will be 10.4
[18:28] <xain> Anyone know how to change Xmodifier mapping for the keyboard?
[18:28] <arrrghhh> seems kubuntu didn't get an lts
[18:29] <arrrghhh> 8.04 ubuntu was lts.
[18:29] <White_Pelican> Unksi, Hardy was not LTS
[18:29] <Unksi> White_Pelican: it was, but not for kubuntu
[18:30] <White_Pelican> which is what I asked originally
[18:30] <White_Pelican> I'm trying to decide whether or not to switch to Intrepid or Jaunty
[18:31] <White_Pelican> or wait even longer
[18:31] <White_Pelican> I am on Hardy fro kubuntu right now
[18:31] <White_Pelican> for*
[18:31] <arrrghhh> White_Pelican, i don't think kubuntu will do lts releases really.
[18:31] <Andry_Afk> last time i configured a NIC was with Kubuntu 6.10...  now I cant remember how to do that
[18:31] <xain> White_Pelican : You might have problem's running KDE4.
[18:31] <Andry_Afk> its not very intuitive
[18:32] <arrrghhh> i don't see them doing any in the future either.  it's a branched project, i wouldn't expect it to go lts like ubuntu.
[18:32] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, you could just edit your /etc/networking/interfaces i think it is
[18:32] <arrrghhh> er /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:32] <White_Pelican> xain, please elaborate
[18:32] <arrrghhh> but there's also a way with ifconfig.  google is your friend.
[18:32] <xain> White_Pelican : Alot of people are experiencing a bug with KDE4. I was one of them.
[18:33] <ricka> good evening
[18:33] <xain> White_Pelican : Graphical glitches, system freezing, and a couple of other good thing's.
[18:33] <White_Pelican> which version of kde 4 did you use?
[18:33] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: is there a GUI way to do that?
[18:33] <xain> White_Pelican : I guess it all depend's on your VGA chipset really.
[18:33] <Andry_Afk> like I did with 6.10
[18:34] <xain> White_Pelican : I used KDE 4.1
[18:34] <White_Pelican> not sure what mine is
[18:34] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, i hear there's some issues with knetworking and static configs.  you don't use dhcp?
[18:34] <White_Pelican> I like 4.2 over 4.1
[18:34] <xain> White_Pelican : Just the default KDE that it came with upn installation of Ibex.
[18:34] <White_Pelican> but for my needs, it isn't ready
[18:34] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: no dhcp
[18:35] <White_Pelican> I ran it through an emulator - vbox
[18:35] <xain> Hey Pelican.
[18:35] <xain> You wouldn't happen to know how to change keyboard modifier keys would you?
[18:35] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, unless you're in kde3.5, you're stuck with the interfaces file or ifconfig for static configurations.  it's a clearly stated bug with kde4.
[18:35] <White_Pelican> yes?
[18:35] <White_Pelican> no sorry
[18:35] <xain> : /
[18:35] <arrrghhh> unless they've fixed it, i'm not sure.
[18:36] <xain> I wanna change the mod key from the left-alt over to right-alt.
[18:36] <xain> Can't figure it out though.
[18:36] <White_Pelican> kde 4 wil not be ready for prime time until at least 4.3 IMHO
[18:36] <HappySmileMan> I would say 4.2 is ready for primetime
[18:37] <HappySmileMan> Can't see any problems or instabilities since I upgraded it
[18:37] <arrrghhh> 4.2 is pretty stable.  until whatever the heck xorg just did to me.
[18:37] <bob__> Help on setting up printer??
[18:37] <HappySmileMan> But I guess it depends what you need it for
[18:37] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: I'm using kde 4,2
[18:38] <ricka> how can I change the entries in the K->favorites menu?
[18:38] <arrrghhh> so am i.  what's your point Andry_Afk
[18:38] <White_Pelican> some of the apps need to be improved - gwenview for one which I use every day
[18:38] <arrrghhh> ricka, kde4.1?
[18:38] <HappySmileMan> ricka: Right click on menu icon and select Menu Editor
[18:38] <arrrghhh> i gave up on gwen.  picasa is soooo much better.
[18:39] <HappySmileMan> Wait, no misread ricka, just go to the application in applications menu, right click and "Add to favourites"
[18:39] <Andry_Afk> arrrghhh: you mean that with 4.2 you got issues with static networking configurations?
[18:40] <arrrghhh> Andry_Afk, i remember reading it was a bug with the knetworkingmanager.
[18:40] <ricka> thanks
[18:41] <White_Pelican> arrrghhh, does picasa have a PC version?
[18:41] <overlord> My kopete chat window is in fulscreen mode. Can anybody help me fix this ?
[18:41] <ricka> can I also add a program onto the panel at the bottom, similar to quick-start in windows?
[18:42] <Andry_Afk> need to reload
[18:42] <Andry_Afk> later
[18:42] <arrrghhh> White_Pelican, pc mac linux maybe bsd i don't know.
[18:43] <White_Pelican> I don't use bsd, I use linux
[18:43] <White_Pelican> kubuntu
[18:43] <White_Pelican> I use the web site, but I have a lot of pics
[18:43] <arrrghhh> White_Pelican, i said it works in linux.  it's a google product, sheesh!
[18:43] <arrrghhh> try it.  google it.  it's awesome.
[18:44] <overlord> My Kopete chat window is in fullscreen mode. Can anybody help me get this back to normal ?
[18:48] <Qwertyi> No niin. Vähän kun tarkemmin tutkaili asiaa niin saihan tämän suomeksi.
[18:48] <Qwertyi> Kiitoksia avuista ja lisää kysymyksiä on varmaankin tulossa ;)
[18:48] <White_Pelican> arrrghhh, I just found it. I asked because at one time it was only available for winblows :) is it in the repository?
[18:49] <Qwertyi> Sorry. Wrong channel.
[18:50] <arrrghhh> White_Pelican, i don't believe it is in the repo's, or there's an old version.  get version 3.x whatever you do.
[18:50] <White_Pelican> looks like there is a deb on the web site
[18:50] <arrrghhh> yessir
[18:50] <White_Pelican> I just downloaded it
[18:50] <arrrghhh> i don't know what, if any, version is in the rpo.
[18:50] <arrrghhh> repo
[18:50] <White_Pelican> ty for letting me know about it
[18:51] <arrrghhh> of course.  i love the software.
[18:51] <arrrghhh> makes touching up photos stupid easy
[18:51] <Malic> i cant delete 2 messages in my kmail inbox... can someone help me?
[18:51] <arrrghhh> makes instant slideshows, movies from pictures, collages.... it's endless.
[18:52] <White_Pelican> cool
[18:52] <White_Pelican> I figured if it was google, it was going to be good. they do it right
[18:52] <Malic> i deleted files in .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/cur/ but the messages are still there
[18:52] <White_Pelican> I love google earth
[18:53] <Malic> where does kmail save the mails?
[18:53] <arrrghhh> they bought the software in '03 i think.
[18:54] <ockonal> :)
[18:54] <ockonal> Someone helps me to crack Vista? :-D
[18:54] <arrrghhh> Malic, really depends on how you connect to your mail service, pop3 is different from imap.
[18:54] <Malic> these are from a pop3 server.. so they are on my hard disc
[18:56] <toumagra1> slt
[18:57] <toumagra1> de l'aide sur l'apprentissage de ubuntu
[18:57] <arrrghhh> !fr | toumagra1
[18:58] <Malic> arrrghhh; you know a way out?
[18:58] <arrrghhh> never used kmail.  sorry.  thunderbird :D
[18:59] <White_Pelican> I switched from thunderbird to kmail :)
[19:00] <arrrghhh> lol
[19:00] <arrrghhh> i usually stick to the web interfaces any ways haha
[19:00] <Malic> they have gone after a kmail crash :)
[19:01] <roman> hallo
[19:03] <JackWinter> i'm trying to compile some code on kubuntu 8.04 and run into this: http://rafb.net/p/Qmbm6t99.html  any ideas ?
[19:03] <arrrghhh> i was hoping someone would give me insight into my screen issue. if it was xorg related i figured it would effect all window managers, not just one.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> mali_ ,if you use your ISP provided mailserver , then you should be able to access the server in the event of losses from kamil or any email client.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> er kmail
[19:06] <BluesKaj> oops Malic left
[19:07] <xain> I hold down "Alt_L" to drag windows. Is there anyway i can disable that?
[19:12] <xain> Ahh, found my problem.
[19:12] <xain> Nevermind guy's i fixed it.
[19:21] <kaddi> hello :D
[19:25] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl
[19:26] <s0undt3ch> last night's update screwed my system, anyone got the same?
[19:29] <s0undt3ch> heh, guess I'm the only one?
[19:29] <fearful> anyone know how I can get the feature on KDE 4.2 where if you go to the top left corner the windows hide?
[19:33] <arrrghhh> some update screwed up my system, but it wasn't last nights
[19:34] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: it downloaded about 100 megs?
[19:34] <s0undt3ch> kde 4.1.3 to kde 4.1.4?
[19:35] <arrrghhh> oh no
[19:35] <arrrghhh> i've been on 4.2 for a while
[19:35] <arrrghhh> a while being relative, like a month.
[19:35]  * kaddi now considers not updating 4.2
[19:35] <s0undt3ch> hmm, how the hell don't I have 4.2 then :\
[19:36] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: intrepid has 4.2?
[19:36] <arrrghhh> if you install it :P
[19:36] <arrrghhh> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[19:39] <s0undt3ch> it asks to install mysql!?!?!?
[19:40] <arrrghhh> yessir
[19:40] <s0undt3ch> that's a showstopper
[19:40] <arrrghhh> why?
[19:40] <s0undt3ch> I never use mysql
[19:40] <arrrghhh> what are you, gay?  :P  jk.  seriously tho, what's wrong with mysql.
[19:41] <s0undt3ch> pgsql, and a db server runnint on a desktop computer?!
[19:41] <arrrghhh> sqllite is easier to setup maybe
[19:41] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: it's a matter of preference, I code too
[19:41] <arrrghhh> i don't know what akonadi does...
[19:41] <s0undt3ch> pim storage
[19:41] <arrrghhh> i like mysql for big dbs tho.
[19:41] <arrrghhh> ah
[19:41] <s0undt3ch> and I don't even use KDE's pim
[19:42] <arrrghhh> i don't either
[19:42] <s0undt3ch> why do they force this stuff on ppl
[19:42] <carpii> who's forcing anything on you?
[19:42] <arrrghhh> they're not forcing you to use it.
[19:42] <s0undt3ch> I'm getting thoughts about moving to gentoo again
[19:42] <s0undt3ch> their forcing me to install it
[19:43] <arrrghhh> then do it.  that's not what kubuntu is about.
[19:43] <carpii> if youre complaining about 100 meg of packages, then yeah, you should go find some 4 meg distro
[19:43] <s0undt3ch> yeah, I just hate the long compiles, that's why I moved to kubuntu
[19:43] <carpii> 100 meg is nothing really.
[19:44] <s0undt3ch> carpii: it's not about the 100megs, it's about me wanting to use kde's desktop, and having to install kde's pim, which install x, which installs y.....etc
[19:45] <carpii> theres probably a good reason why it wants to install pim
[19:46] <carpii> but yeah, the dependency management could be a little more flexible
[19:46] <s0undt3ch> carpii: exaclty my point! Don't get me wrong, I love kubuntu, but when I hit this kind of stuff, bah...
[19:47] <carpii> whhat package are you complaining about exactly ?
[19:47] <Andry_Sleeps> I always get device disconnected on eth0.... is this a bug or something?
[19:47] <arrrghhh> mysql
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> Andry_Sleeps: you upgraded recently?
[19:47] <arrrghhh> Andry_Sleeps, i TOLD you it was... sheesh.
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> same happening here
[19:47] <s0undt3ch> wlan0 though
[19:48] <carpii> mysql server?
[19:48] <arrrghhh> it is a WELL documented bug.
[19:48] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: mysql, the whole pim
[19:48] <Andry_Sleeps> arrrghhh: but i mean, there is no way to connect to any network?  how is this possible
[19:48] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: it didn't happen before my upgrade today
[19:48] <s0undt3ch> I can connect though, it just keeps dropping
[19:48] <arrrghhh> Andry_Sleeps, i didn't say that.
[19:48] <arrrghhh> s0undt3ch, haven't heard of that one
[19:48] <Andry_Sleeps> arrrghhh: are they planning to fix it?
[19:49] <arrrghhh> Andry_Sleeps, no i'm sure they're just twiddling their thumbs on it.
[19:49] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: well, it started happening when I upgraded from 4.1.3 to 4.1.4
[19:49] <arrrghhh> i thought it only effected static cxns via knetworkmanager.  use /etc/network/interfaces
[19:49] <s0undt3ch> I also lost window frames if I continue to use compiz
[19:49] <arrrghhh> s0undt3ch, use 4.2  4.1 is crap.
[19:49] <Andry_Sleeps> arrrghhh: you told me it was since 3.5
[19:50] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: yeah, I'm upgrading it
[19:50] <arrrghhh> i know that sounds harsh, but there's a lot of benefits to 4.2
[19:50] <arrrghhh> Andry, 3.5 is fine.
[19:50] <arrrghhh> 3.5.10 is "rock solid" - and it was.
[19:50] <arrrghhh> but this was a complete rewrite.  those always need EXTENSIVE testing.
[19:50] <Andry> arrrghhh: so i should downgrade, right?
[19:50] <s0undt3ch> hope this upgrade goes fine
[19:51] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: can I keep my .kde? or do I have to delete it?
[19:51] <arrrghhh> i'm sure your computer will spontaneously burst into flames
[19:51] <arrrghhh> s0undt3ch, i kept it.  no issues there.
[19:52] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: I can make flames on my comp with compiz ;)
[19:52] <s0undt3ch> not that usefull though ;)
[19:52] <arrrghhh> no not really
[19:52] <arrrghhh> and i think it would be cool if a computer burst into flames during an upgrade.  very simpsons-esque.
[19:53] <arrrghhh> just so long as it wasn't one of mine
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> I wonder if system will still work if I don't run the mysql server
[19:54] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: kde pim storage could also allow you to choose the db backend to use
[19:54] <StR|Sangreal> hello
[19:54] <quassel53> anyone has problems with java and jaunty? (only with kde 4.2. No problem with gnome for this alpha version). For example, this url does not work with firefox from kde but works ok with firefox from gnome: http://www.catedu.es/gestor_recursos/repositorio/clic/579/jclic/579.htm Any idea about?
[19:54] <StR|Sangreal> please what do i need to upgrade to k 42 and to kernel ..28?
[19:55] <dotkom> Is it recommended or not to install compiz? Only say because I'm getting really bad performance from kwin.... :(
[19:55] <dotkom> on KDE 4.2 sorry
[19:56] <ockonal> dotkom: hi
[19:56] <dotkom> hi
[19:56] <Paddy_EIRE> dotkom: if you are getting bad performance on kwin then compiz will kill your pc
[19:56] <ockonal> dotkom: if u want, u can install it
[19:56] <dotkom> any issues known?
[19:56] <StR|Sangreal> please i have installed intrepid from install dvd and run updates
[19:56] <Paddy_EIRE> kwin is actually much faster in my opinion
[19:56] <dotkom> it aint on my setup
[19:57] <StR|Sangreal> and i dont know how do i get new kernel and new kde
[19:57] <Paddy_EIRE> gfx card?
[19:57] <dotkom> really bad actually
[19:57] <dotkom> 8800GTS
[19:57] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[19:57] <s0undt3ch> Paddy_EIRE: not so neat though as compiz, though I'm just upgrading to 4.2, maybe there's a diference there
[19:57] <ockonal> StR|Sangreal: new kernel u can get during system-updating
[19:57] <Paddy_EIRE> s0undt3ch: yeah it much improved.. its really nice
[19:57] <dotkom> maybe, but my experience isn't to great
[19:57] <ockonal> StR|Sangreal: just type in console: sudo aptitude update
[19:58] <s0undt3ch> Paddy_EIRE: does about the same as compiz?
[19:58] <Paddy_EIRE> s0undt3ch: more or less.. minus the useless fluff :)
[19:58] <Paddy_EIRE> and there is snow damn it
[19:58] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[19:58] <s0undt3ch> Paddy_EIRE: rotating cube?
[19:58] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[19:58]  * cuznt puts on his virtual ski's
[19:59] <Paddy_EIRE> hehe
[19:59] <s0undt3ch> dam!
[19:59] <StR|Sangreal> ok and how do i update kde to 4.2
[19:59] <s0undt3ch> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/doc/kde4/HTML/en/kcontrol/windowbehaviour/index.cache.bz2', which is also in package kde-window-manager
[19:59] <dotkom> i would prefer to use the kwin but can't when ive seen the effects run so much better
[19:59] <s0undt3ch> then it fails
[19:59] <cuznt> KDE 4.2 out http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[19:59] <ockonal> StR|Sangreal: u must to add need repository and key
[19:59] <cuznt> to upgrade
[20:00] <Paddy_EIRE> dotkom: I know what you mean... give compiz a try.. it might give you some troubles though
[20:00] <ockonal> StR|Sangreal: see the link at the top
[20:00] <Paddy_EIRE> with kde that is
[20:00] <dotkom> when i installed it on kde 4.1 i couldn't rid of the emerald theme
[20:00] <dotkom> have you come accross this?
[20:01] <Paddy_EIRE> no that would be odd
[20:01] <dotkom> 4.1 was buggy for me
[20:01] <Paddy_EIRE> 4.2 is ready for daily use in my opinion
[20:01] <ockonal> yeah
[20:01] <dotkom> im working with tth idea
[20:01] <ockonal> but there are still a lot of bugs :)
[20:01] <dotkom> but still
[20:02] <dotkom> its had it moments
[20:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ockonal: of course.. its still an infant
[20:02] <kaddi> no more than in kde 4.1 imho
[20:02] <dotkom> any know of 4.3 release?
[20:03] <ockonal> see kde site
[20:03] <dotkom> ^^
[20:05] <dotkom> has anyone had the BIOS warning at the boot of Kununtu 8.10?
[20:05] <ockonal> nope
[20:05] <cuznt> no
[20:05] <dotkom> hmm
[20:06] <dotkom> do you know where i can find the logs?
[20:06] <quassel53> anyone has problems with java and jaunty? (only with kde 4.2. No problem with gnome for this alpha version). For example, this url does not work with firefox from kde but works ok with firefox from gnome: http://www.catedu.es/gestor_recursos/repositorio/clic/579/jclic/579.htm Any idea about?
[20:07] <ockonal> dotkom: /var/logs
[20:07] <ockonal> :-D
[20:08] <dotkom> lol, cheers :)
[20:09] <ockonal> damn, does anyone know how to crack vista? :-D
[20:09] <quassel53> what is Vista?      ;-)
[20:09] <s0undt3ch> how do I get past -> http://pastebin.com/m571e9dac
[20:10] <StR|Sangreal> !vista
[20:10] <ockonal> There isn't way to crack it)
[20:10] <StR|Sangreal> !crack
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[20:12] <quassel53> bye!!!
[20:12] <s0undt3ch> arrrghhh: got any hint?
[20:12] <ockonal> bye
[20:13] <kaddi> !compiz
[20:14] <ockonal> Can u telp me some need repositrories, where i can find a lot of soft?
[20:14] <ockonal> In standart there arent nothing :)
[20:14] <ockonal> And i was at Linux a long time ago
[20:14] <Paddy_EIRE> umm.. was that english
[20:14] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[20:15] <fdan4824> anyone familiar with the problem where adding a newtwork printer hangs (8.10). I found a solution once before about changing a CUPS security setting, but can't find it again.
[20:17] <arrrghhh> dpkg-reconfigure -a s0undt3ch ?
[20:17] <arrrghhh> i g2g
[20:18] <kaddi> anyone got compiz to work on kde4.2?
[20:19] <dotkom> Nope, was thinkin about attempting it tho
[20:19] <dotkom> whats your performance like on kwin?
[20:20] <kaddi> dotkom: it's not the performance that's bothering me. it's those ugly greyish window decoration.. they're driving me mad :p
[20:20] <dotkom> lol
[20:20] <ockonal> And what about repositories?
[20:22] <dotkom> Has anyone installed NVIDIA 180 drivers on KDE 4.2 yet? Any known issues?
[20:24] <Archonian> can I use KDE 4.2 with Kubuntu 8.10 ?
[20:24] <dotkom> yes
[20:25] <dotkom> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[20:26] <Archonian> ok, thanks
[20:26] <s0undt3ch> kaddi, dotkom: I have compiz running on 4.2 it kept as the window manager when I upgraded from 4.1.4  to 4.2, now I can't seem to be able to disable it
[20:26] <ockonal> dotkom: i'm)
[20:27] <dotkom> metacity --replace
[20:27] <ockonal> dotkom: the same as it was before)
[20:27] <kaddi> s0undt3ch: could you check which compiz-packages are installed?
[20:27] <kaddi> I'm only getting an error message when trying to start compiz
[20:28] <StR|Sangreal> pls an urgent question
[20:28] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: ok, I disabled it, sure, give me a command to run ;)
[20:29] <StR|Sangreal> i am gonna reinstall windoze mce from recovery partition
[20:29] <StR|Sangreal> how can i then restore grub?
[20:30] <StR|Sangreal> please
[20:31] <kaddi> my battery is dying
[20:32] <kaddi> i'll be back though ; *menace*
[20:34] <ockonal_> damn it...
[20:35] <s0undt3ch> arrrg, kwin's effect don't seem to get triggered by mouse!? only key shortcuts!?
[20:50] <malganis85> hello?
[20:50] <malganis85> this is my first time on irc
[20:51] <malganis85> anyone here?
[20:51] <SuspectZero> hey. my kdm wont allow me to log in as root. can someone help me figure this out please?
[20:51] <DasEI> malagais85:anyone not, but some others
[20:52] <malganis85> what you need help with?
[20:52] <malganis85> whats KDM?
[20:52] <SuspectZero> login manager
[20:52] <malganis85> is the root user enabled?
[20:52] <DasEI> SuspectZero: it's for security reasons, login as normal user, then sudo
[20:52] <DasEI> !sudo
[20:53] <SuspectZero> well yea i know all that but i want to log in as root. i know all the consequences and all that stuff but i still want to do it.
[20:53] <DasEI> SuspectZero: if you know what you're doing, can do : sudo -s
[20:53] <DasEI> SuspectZero: you can configure it via the loginmanager
[20:54] <malganis85> what does it say when you sudo -s
[20:55] <SuspectZero> login doesnt have an option to allow me to login as root
[20:55] <malganis85> open terminal and type sudo -s and you should be in root
[20:56] <SuspectZero> hmm i dont think you understand my problem. ok when i turn my computer on it comes to the login screen and i try logging in as root but it doesnt allow me. when i do a console login it works fine but not thorough the login manager.
[20:56] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: be warned, window frames get lost with compiz
[20:56] <malganis85> if that does not work then enable root then log out and type root in username then press enter in thepassword box
[20:57] <s0undt3ch> and kwin effects are not that fast
[20:57] <DasEI> SuspectZero: you can configure it via the loginmanager
[20:57] <s0undt3ch> one can even use mouse in juntion with keyboard for triggering effects
[20:57] <DasEI> SuspectZero: 8.10 ?
[20:57] <kaddi> s0undt3ch sorry, i don't understand what you mean by that: "frames get lost" are there no more frames around windows?
[20:57] <SuspectZero> DasEI, how do i check?
[20:57] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: window frame, border?
[20:57] <s0undt3ch> maximize, minimize buttons, etc
[20:57] <DasEI> !version SuspectZero
[20:58] <DasEI> !version | SuspectZero
[20:58] <SuspectZero> yep 8.1
[20:58] <SuspectZero> intrepid
[20:58] <kaddi> s0undt3ch: i think that is exactly what i want. :D no more borders
[20:58] <kaddi> i just can't get compiz to run :p
[20:58] <DasEI> SuspectZero: progs>system>preferenences>extended>loginmanager>ex/included users
[20:59] <malganis85> suspect please try to log in a root in login manager the password is the ENTER button
[20:59] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: though 4.2 is neater, but kwin ain't that fast, resising a window is slugish :\
[20:59] <DasEI> malaganis85:disabled by default
[20:59] <DasEI> dis*
[20:59] <SuspectZero> yea its disabled
[20:59] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: and it was blasing fast with compiz
[21:00] <DasEI> malaganis85:which ubuntu do you run ?
[21:00] <malganis85> are you guys using kubuntu?
[21:00] <SuspectZero> i'll brb im trying the login manager method
[21:00] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: .kde/share/config/ksmserverrc -> windowManager=compiz
[21:00] <malganis85> becuase im using ubuntu 8.10
[21:00] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: that will get you going I think
[21:01] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: about the compiz packages I have intalled, how can I know that?
[21:01] <s0undt3ch> cli'wise
[21:01] <DasEI> malaganis85:right now kubu, but have few environments, / #ubuntu is there, too
[21:01] <kaddi> s0undt3ch i've been trying to find that out, haven't found an easy way though
[21:02] <DasEI> malaganis85:to go there, in messenger type: /j #ubuntu
[21:02] <kaddi> s0undt3ch windowManager=compiz is working out just fine, as well as starting compiz. but when i try to configure it i get the error message "running the configuration tool failed"
[21:03] <kaddi> and all i get with google are translations of same message in some newsgroups
[21:03] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: compiz-plugins, compiz-core, python-compizconfig, compiz-fusion-plugins-{main,extra}, libdecoration0, compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:04] <kaddi> s0undt3ch: you rock :D how did you do that?
[21:04] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: typing it by seeing on adept :)
[21:04] <s0undt3ch> og I also have compiz-wrapper but I'm not using it
[21:04] <s0undt3ch> s/og/oh
[21:05] <s0undt3ch> dam, on my ATI kwin is dam sloooooowwwwwww
[21:05] <kaddi> ok, lets go :)
[21:05] <corrado> salve
[21:05] <corrado> parlate italiano?
[21:06] <kaddi> !it|corrado
[21:06] <SiVA_> anything special I have to do to get video capture, through firewire, working in 8.10?
[21:06] <slow-motion> hi
[21:08] <kaddi> s0undt3ch: thanks, i had the whole compiz-gnome packages installed as well.. but uninstalling them didn't really help... i'll just keep looking around. if i find a solution i'll let you know :) :)
[21:08] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: but I want window frames ;)
[21:09] <malganis85> enyone want to talk im bored
[21:10] <s0undt3ch> malganis85: get a wife :)
[21:11] <malganis85> lol
[21:11] <malganis85> im 11
[21:11] <kaddi> s0undt3ch: if i find a solution restauring windowframes i'll let you know, then ;)
[21:11] <Tm_T> !ot | malganis85
[21:11] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: thanks
[21:12] <amazon_> oi
[21:13] <AS|Sangreal> please a verz urgent problem
[21:13] <amazon_> ola
[21:13] <AS|Sangreal> i have run recovery of windoze and now i cant run grub
[21:13] <AS|Sangreal> better said, its damaged, boots and halts
[21:14] <AS|Sangreal> how can i repair it please?
[21:14] <AS|Sangreal> i dont have anz access to the filesystem, i only have the install dvd
[21:14] <cpk1> !recover
[21:14] <cpk1> no thats not it
[21:15] <cpk1> AS|Sangreal, you need to boot from the install cd and there should be a recover option, there is also a wiki on it but I forget the factoid for it
[21:15] <cpk1> !grub
[21:15] <cpk1> there you go AS|Sangreal
[21:17] <SiVA_> I wish things would just work sometimes
[21:17] <XAVIER> kool been
[21:17] <XAVIER> kool beans*
[21:18] <ciber> hello!
[21:19] <SuspectZero> !splash
[21:19] <XAVIER> eqisow ?
[21:22] <XAVIER> justin newman ftm ?
[21:22] <XAVIER> ok nevermind.
[21:22] <ciber> !hello!!
[21:22] <ciber> hello!
[21:22] <XAVIER> i don't suppose you are him ciber ?
[21:23] <Tm_T> XAVIER: he/she/it is not here atm (:
[21:23] <XAVIER> it ; lol
[21:23] <kaddi> s0undt3ch: i get my frames back, when i do a "compiz --replace &". If i kill compiz afterwards my frames are missing. but i'm not sure how easily this is undone afterwards :D *experimenting* :D
[21:24] <XAVIER> Well i would have hoped IT wouldn't respond :P
[21:24] <XAVIER> LMAO
[21:24] <ciber> ok
[21:24] <ciber> okay
[21:24] <XAVIER> omg that was a good one
[21:24] <kaddi> (the window frames are dark red btw... and i still can't change them. :D so not the final solution :p )
[21:24] <ciber> verry good ubuntu
[21:24] <ciber> yah!
[21:24] <ciber> yeah!
[21:25] <ciber> beach
[21:26] <Tm_T> ciber: mind to stop random posting?
[21:28] <SiVA_> I give up... wish I left space on my drive for windows so I can capture video. Going home to cry now
[21:29] <sledge> hi everyone, due to a crash in an app, my soundcard is looping a particular sample over and over again. is there a way to reinit ALSA without rebooting the box?
[21:30] <ubuntu_> HELO WORLD
[21:31] <sledge> Anybody?
[21:32] <wrinkliez> hey guys, i installed deluge and used it as my default torrent program. i later uninstalled it and installed transmission. is there anyway that i can get .torrent files to not have the deluge icon?
[21:33] <ockonal_> All people sleep :)
[21:33] <ockonal_> bye
[21:35] <automotive-engin> hallo - I need help after updating to kde 4.2 - I cant log in
[21:36] <automotive-engin> can I get help here?
[21:37] <Tm_T> !patience | automotive-engin
[21:38] <automotive-engin> thank you - sorry
[21:38] <Tm_T> also, most of europeans etc are going to sleep or are already by now, so you might have to wait (:
[21:38] <Tm_T> automotive-engin: np, it just might take time and patience to get a help
[21:39] <jnalli> how do scan and download articles from usenet in linux
[21:39] <jnalli> like what newsrover does
[21:39] <dusko82> I have installed KDE device manager for Windows Mobile devices and some other packeges, how do I run them?
[21:40] <kaddi> is it possible to install different windows decoration themes for kwin?
 use forte agent 5, it works for me... run it with wine
[21:43] <jnalli> is it free?
[21:44] <dusko82> no, but you can download it on easynews or giganews
[21:46] <dusko82> I have installed KDE device manager for Windows Mobile devices and some other packeges, how do I run them?
[21:48] <r3db0x> has anyone seen the error message "your bios doesn't leave a aperture memory hole"?
[21:50] <kaddi> if i try to activate desktop effects, it tells me to install kde-compiz, if i try to install kde-compiz it tries to install libplasma2 which afaik isn't comptaible with kde 4.2. how can i solve this problem?
[21:56] <zerothis1> hos do i add a user from the command-line? i used useradd name and passwd name but can't log into the account
[21:57] <automotive-engi1> after I updatet to kde 4.2 I cannot pass the kde login. Also it is not possible to do startx . XServer crashes, but witout error message. in xsession.errors I find: konsole:...Fatal IO error: client killed  -- any suggestions?
[21:57] <wildbat> do you know how to fix lid button on my liptop? my laptop's lid button won't work until i suspend or powersaving timer turn off the screen once.....
[22:14] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know offhand what file tells kde to launch "plasma" when a kde session is started so I can change it to plasma-desktop ??
[22:15] <OxDeadC0de> bet it's /usr/share/autostart/plasma.desktop
[22:17] <gater> hello
[22:18] <eliram> hello
[22:18] <eliram> whos there
[22:19] <mr-t---> !hi
[22:19] <gater> how to upgrade kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10
[22:19] <eliram> this is my first tiem here is chat room or what is
[22:20] <mr-t---> !topic
[22:20] <mr-t---> !ot
[22:34] <ciber> hello
[22:34] <ciber> hello
[22:34] <ciber> iḿ from roma
[22:34] <ciber> you??
[22:36] <thiago_> oi
[22:36] <thiago_> boa noite
[22:52] <gumpert345> hi is there some kind of configuration file for the kde 4 screensaver?
[22:59] <Lasecun> as
[23:07] <SuspectZero> !volume
[23:08] <SuspectZero> damn, whts a good package to install for volume control?
[23:11] <slhk> kmix
[23:13] <slhk> or alsactl
[23:19] <cuznt> !kmix
[23:19] <wildbat> do you know how to fix lid button on my liptop? my laptop's lid button won't work until i suspend or powersaving timer turn off the screen once.....Compaq nc6320
[23:31] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: well, passing --replace could probably be achieved with the wrapper script
[23:31] <kaddi> s0undt3ch i still can't configure compiz (and am in the process of giving up) really... red window decoration really aren't any better than grey ones
[23:31] <kaddi> ;)
[23:32] <kaddi> i think you only have to run the replace once, and then just need to ensure, that compiz is loaded at startup
[23:32] <ghostcube> kaddi, the theme isnt conmtrolled by ccsm
[23:32] <ghostcube> this is emerald-themes
[23:32] <ghostcube> this is emerald-theme-manager
[23:32] <ghostcube> damn
[23:36] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: for window decoration you also have to get emerald
[23:36] <kaddi> already got emerald ;)
[23:37] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: then you should be able to choose an almost frameless layout
[23:37] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: or download one
[23:37] <Castawayz> is kubuntu alpha 4 available to dl by torrent that direct download is giving me an awful time
[23:38] <Castawayz> nm got it started up again
[23:39] <Castawayz> will it be able to update all the way to the full version of Jaunty Jackalope when it's released?
[23:39] <kaddi> jeah, i'm getting better results now... :) still can't configure anything in compiz though... but what the heck... :p
[23:40] <s0undt3ch> kaddi: what config backend did you define for compiz?
[23:40] <ghostcube> kaddi, on coomand line ccsm is telling what?
[23:41] <ghostcube> kaddi, u need flatfile backend in compiz settings not the kde backend this wont work
[23:44] <kaddi_> re
[23:44] <kaddi_> ccsm works fine
[23:45] <kaddi_> man, that makes about a week i've been wondering how to get this to work -.-
[23:49] <Level15> hi: i have an eps file and want to convert it to pdf. i tried ps2pdf and convert, but the dimensions are changed (it creates a large page, with the image on the bottom and an ungly empty half on top). Any suggestions on how to achieve conversion?
[23:52] <ubuntu__> HOLA
[23:52] <ubuntu__> NECESITO AYUDA
[23:52] <kaddi> !es |ubuntu__
[23:53] <ubuntu__> HOLA NECESITO AYUDA
[23:53] <ubuntu__> NECESITO AYUDA KEIN ME PUEDE ORIENTAR????????????'
[23:53] <kaddi> para ayuda en espanol, debes preguntar en #ubuntu-es , aqui solo hay ayuda en ingles
[23:54] <earle> yuda betta be kiddin
[23:55] <Level15> hi: i have an eps file and want to convert it to pdf. i tried ps2pdf and convert, but the dimensions are changed (it creates a large page, with the image on the bottom and an ungly empty half on top). Any suggestions on how to achieve conversion?
[23:59] <slack_> hello is somebody on?
[23:59] <slack_> someone knows if there is a Qt4 bindings for C ( pure C )???