[00:48] <nhandler> pbuilder is really acting up. I get to " -> debootstrap finished", but then it fails to resolve "archive.ubuntu.com". This causes the rest of 'pbuilder create' to fail
[00:48] <vorian> nhandler: try adding us.archive.ubuntu.com (or other mirror) to your pbuilderrc
[00:51] <nhandler> vorian: I'm trying that now. It needs to go through the whole debootstrap process again, so it might take a while
[00:51] <vorian> i have all night :)
[00:52] <vorian> plus, i have a little background on what you've experienced thus far
[01:03] <maxb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/118222/  <-- I use this wrapper script as a debootstrap replacement which bindmounts /var/cache/apt/archives into the bootstrap chroot, saving most/all of the download time
[01:09] <nhandler> Still fails with us.archive.ubuntu.com: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118224/
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[01:33] <cody-somerville> okay....
[01:34] <cody-somerville> X just segfaulted on me along with a number of other processes.
[01:36] <maxb> Hmm.. I'm getting a rogue conffile prompt concerning /etc/belocs/iso-639.def on upgrade. Should I be filing a bug and if so, against what?
[01:37] <cody-somerville> Actually, it was an invalid next size
[01:45] <TheMuso> maxb: If this is jaunty, you may want to wait a bit as pitti has been moving some locale things around quite a lot in the last 12 hours or so, so it may not hurt to let things settle on the archive mirror you are using first.
[02:42] <DBO> i am becoming increasingly worried about intel drivers in jaunty.  Is ubuntu going to really push the new drivers which are measurably worse than those in intrepid?  It would really suck for application developers such as myself...
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[05:03] <TheMuso> \/c
[05:03] <RAOF> \m/
[05:11] <jdong> TheMuso: you should get that head checked out....
[05:11] <jdong> I'm no medical expert but it looks a bit out of place
[05:15] <TheMuso> lol
[06:57]  * ScottK notes that power pc is totally caught up and building well, so if you've got something that failed on PPC, now would be a good time for retries.
[06:57] <ScottK> TheMuso: My ports rebuilding is going pretty smoothly.
[06:58] <ScottK> Only one ICE so far.
[06:58] <TheMuso> ScottK: Nice.
[06:58] <TheMuso> ScottK: Together we have managed to get powerpc down to 15 uninstallable packages at least.
[06:58] <ScottK> TheMuso: Yes.  It's in as good as ship as the supported archs.
[06:59] <ScottK> I did a decent sized stack of universe retries too.
[06:59] <TheMuso> Yeah. Just gotta wait till the locales stuff settles and things will be ok again.
[07:00] <ScottK> TheMuso: You wouldn't happen to be in the mood to look at an IA64 build failure, would you?
[07:01] <ScottK> So far I got one ICE and two portability issues.  The sparc issue I think I've got fixed and NCommander is going to test it for me on a sparc box.
[07:13] <ScottK> TheMuso: If you get interested it's http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22641086/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-ia64.kdebindings_4%3A4.2.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[07:13]  * ScottK is off to bed.  Good night.
[08:44] <TheMuso> ScottK: Wouldn;t know where to start fixing that FTBF sorry.
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[11:03] <geser> slangasek: Hi, could you please give bug #323863 another try and move now also the other binary deb and the source to universe too? thanks.
[11:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 323863 in libjdic-java "Please move package to universe" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323863
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[13:18] <pop79> hi
[13:38] <ScottK> TheMuso: Thanks for looking.
[13:50] <pop79> sorry, is this the developers section?
[13:50] <directhex> for people developing the core of the distro
[13:50] <pop79> oh
[13:51] <pop79> im developing a little tour that can be put on cd, so it can show what ubuntu can do, not to do with the live cd.
[13:52] <pop79> would that count?
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[14:48] <BUGabundo> apw: I was running a suspend test
[14:49] <BUGabundo> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/SuspendResumeTesting
[14:49] <BUGabundo> nd laptop failed to resume once it started the automated part of tests
[14:49] <BUGabundo> pgraner: ping
[14:50] <BUGabundo> ^^^^^^^^
[14:51] <BUGabundo> what do you guys want me to do to collect data for bug?
[14:53] <BUGabundo> I read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/SuspendResume
[14:53] <BUGabundo> but apport did not fire up, nor do I know the name of the log file
[15:09] <RainCT> kirkland: Hey. Another problem with screen-profiles.. Run screen in a terminal and scroll up with the mouse wheel ^^
[15:11] <vadi2> After today's dpkg upgrade, I am unable to install any packages with gdebi - it just freezes. Is this known or just me?
[15:26] <persia> vadi2, #ubuntu-bugs is generally a better place to ask if a bug has been reported, or to check in LP.
[15:27] <vadi2> okay
[15:53] <Laney> are removals from sid still automatically carried over to Jaunty, or is this part of autosync?
[16:09] <RainCT> Laney: I don't think they are
[16:09] <Laney> thought as much
[16:12] <RainCT> Laney: you can imagine the reasons, though? eg, Debian might do some transition involving package removals and if they were removed from Ubuntu too but we didn't do the transition stuff here would break, etc.
[16:12] <Laney> of course
[16:14]  * RainCT wonders if the authors of all the "make Ubuntu more popular" ideas on Brainstorm are even in a LoCo team
[16:14] <pochu> good question
[16:18] <directhex> RainCT, no.
[16:19] <directhex> RainCT, if they post ideas on the forum or brainstorm, then they don't even know proper channels exist
[16:19] <RainCT> lol
[16:20] <RainCT> (and then there are the "make brainstorm more popular" ideas -.-)
[16:22] <jpds> RainCT: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/12452/
[16:23] <RainCT> OMG
[16:26] <pochu> hahaha
[16:26]  * RainCT ponders voting +1 ^^
[16:26] <pochu> you know, I'd go to the cinema to watch that one
[16:46] <kees> kirkland: hrm, you didn't commit your cryptsetup 2:1.0.6-7ubuntu3 changes to the bzr tree...
[16:49] <kees> kirkland: also, what happened to all the autoconf files??
[16:51] <kees> kirkland: please make sure you manually review your debdiff before uploading -- we need to avoid cruft.  :)
[18:50] <ZippyV> I'm new to debugging in Ubuntu
[18:50] <ZippyV> I have to debug some code of the hal
[18:51] <ZippyV> which ide do you guys recommend?
[19:01] <ScottK> TheMuso: I'm also seeing error like /usr/include/linux/byteorder.h:8:3: error: #error Fix asm/byteorder.h to define one endianness
[19:01] <ScottK>  ... on sparc.
[19:02] <ScottK> Google seems to indicate there are kernel patches for this, but I'm no expert.
[19:02] <ScottK> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22649785/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-sparc.kdemultimedia_4%3A4.2.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz for a full build log.
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[19:31] <calc> anyone else notice the archive is really slow today?
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[19:35] <ScottK> I saw several complaints about it yesterday.
[19:43] <calc> i'm downloading from it at about 4KB/s
[19:44]  * calc hopes he can get a new OOo upload done before alpha5 with how slow the archive is :\
[19:44] <calc> it claims it is going to take 28hr+ to download the packages i need
[19:46] <ScottK> calc: FYI, there's a boost1.35 portability problem on sparc that breaks OOo currently.  I've got a patch I'm waiting for NCommander to test on a sparc box he has access to.
[19:51] <calc> ScottK: ok
[19:52] <ScottK> Yeah, now that TheMuso got the ports kernels fixed I've been trying to get things built on the ports archs.
[19:52] <calc> oh ok
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[19:53] <BUGabundo> TheMuso: ping
[19:53] <BUGabundo> I'm having trouble again with PA test2
[19:53]  * calc bbl
[19:54]  * RAOF hopes it's a bit early for TheMuso to be in here.
[19:54] <BUGabundo> most of the time I have to kill it and start again just to have PA audio
[19:54] <BUGabundo> and after hibernate/resume it faills 99% of the time
[19:54] <BUGabundo> RAOF: I hope he reads the backlog
[19:54] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Anyone know where the string "Comparing resolution (1280x800 1280x1024) to maximum 3D texture size" might be generated (during Xorg start-up) ? There's an error just after that looks like it is from a shell script
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[19:58] <RAOF> IntuitiveNipple: That's the compiz wrapper script.
[19:58] <RAOF> You have two separate X screens?  Strange.
[19:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Yeah it is - I just found it
[19:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Why strange?
[19:59] <IntuitiveNipple> It's repeated in 3 scripts it seems
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[20:56] <IntuitiveNipple> bug #207770 has a debdiff ready
[20:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 207770 in compiz "compiz check_texture_size does not deal with multiple displays" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207770
[21:01] <jeromeg> hello
[21:02] <jeromeg> is there anyone in charge of abiword in main ?
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[21:15] <TheMuso> BUGabundo: Yes? Please just ask your question, and I'll get to it when I am around, and if you are online, you will get an answer ASAP.
[21:16] <BUGabundo> TheMuso: are you here now?
[21:19] <TheMuso> BUGabundo: Yes, I would not have responded if I was.
[21:19] <TheMuso> s/was/wasn't/
[21:20] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[21:20] <BUGabundo> I'm having trouble again with PA test2
[21:20] <BUGabundo> most of the time I have to kill it and start again just to have PA audio
[21:21] <BUGabundo> and after hibernate/resume it faills 99% of the time
[21:21] <TheMuso> BUGabundo: May I suggest you contact upstream directly? Except for a few settings changes, there is nothing different from upstrea's code.
[21:22] <BUGabundo> humm I may
[21:23] <BUGabundo> but I remembered there was that race condicion with the archive version
[21:23] <BUGabundo> and this sounds similar (except for resume)
[21:24] <BUGabundo> running pulseaudio -k ; start-pulseaudio-x11 doesn't always start PA
[21:24] <BUGabundo> it fails to connect
[21:25] <BUGabundo> one user on #ubuntu+1 also mentioned that PA devs where under the idea Jaunty was going to ship 9.15 and not 9.14
[21:25] <TheMuso> I'll check on that, because that is certainly not the case.
[21:26] <TheMuso> As for that race stuff, I'll put it into the test version later today when I get to doing audio work.
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[21:54] <andersk> Is there a MOTU sponsor available to review a quick fix in bug 34376? I fixed a regression introduced by the last patch.
[21:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 34376 in debmirror "missing main/debian-installer in repo causes debmirror to fail" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34376
[21:55] <andersk> I think that it can then be closed, because the original problem has been addressed.
[21:58] <ScottK> andersk: #ubuntu-motu is a better channel.
[22:49] <mdke> what are the chances that if usb-creator doesn't work for me in Intrepid, it will work in Jaunty? Has there been intensive development in the last few months?
[22:50] <geser> mdke: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/usb-creator/usb-creator_0.1.11/changelog
[22:51] <RainCT> * Default the GUI to start up centered on the screen.
[22:51]  * RainCT guesses this won't work on a dual screem setup, and hopes to be corrected :P
[22:53] <mdke> geser: thanks. I can't see anything obviously crucial there but I'll give it a try :)
[22:56] <RAOF> RainCT: Depends on how it's implemented.  GTK will generally DTRT with screens spanning two heads.
[22:56] <primes2h> May anyone have a look on this bug, please? It's a blocker for many many users, especially for newbies.... bug #255651
[22:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 255651 in linux "floppy disk drive not detected (module not loaded) in Intrepid and Jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255651
[23:05] <DevelArab> Enter text here...Hi
[23:16] <RainCT> kirkland: I've just reviewed screenbin on REVU