[00:53] <Leon_Nardella> Is this a good place to look for help on building icedtea6 on Ubuntu?
[19:12] <EruditeHermit> hi can anyone help me with getting openjdk and eclipse to work together? I get the following error when I try to run the appletviewer sun.applet.AppletViewer not fond in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader
[19:12] <EruditeHermit> thank you in advance
[21:54] <hicham> hi there
[22:05] <hicham> hi there
[22:20] <hicham> hi there
[22:45] <EruditeHermit> hicham: hi
[22:45] <hicham> how r u doing?
[22:45] <EruditeHermit> not bad
[22:45] <EruditeHermit> do you know about ubuntu-java stuff?
[22:46] <hicham> a little bit
[22:46] <hicham> it is a packaging room
[22:46] <hicham> no?
[22:46] <EruditeHermit> can you help me with a problem
[22:46] <EruditeHermit> yes
[22:46] <hicham> yes
[22:46] <hicham> if i can
[22:46] <hicham> ask
[22:46] <EruditeHermit> hi can anyone help me with getting openjdk and eclipse to work together? I get the following error when I try to run the appletviewer sun.applet.AppletViewer not fond in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader
[22:46] <EruditeHermit> repost from earlier
[22:47] <EruditeHermit> I have openjdk-6-jdk installed
[22:47] <hicham> but why openjdk?
[22:47] <hicham> it is still incomplete
[22:47] <hicham> it is a work in progress
[22:47] <EruditeHermit> what is missing?
[22:47] <hicham> a lot of classes and stuff
[22:48] <EruditeHermit> I thought sun opened most of it and what it did not, was reverse engineered
[22:48] <EruditeHermit> I thought it passed the tests to make sure it was compliant
[22:48] <EruditeHermit> or am I wrong?
[22:49] <hicham> it is compliant
[22:49] <hicham> but not complete
[22:49] <hicham> otherwise sun will loose the market
[22:49] <EruditeHermit> I see
[22:49] <EruditeHermit> what all is missing
[22:49] <hicham> eclipse runs well with gcj?
[22:49] <EruditeHermit> well it is running apart from the appletviewer
[22:50] <EruditeHermit> there is even an eclipse-jdt-gcj package in ubuntu
[22:50] <hicham> yes
[22:50] <hicham> in ubuntu there is two alternatives
[22:50] <hicham> the native version of eclipse built with gcj
[22:51] <hicham> and the one that runs with sun-jre
[22:51] <hicham> have u tried sun's jre?
[22:52] <EruditeHermit> no
[22:53] <EruditeHermit> but I'd rather use the open source version if at all possible
[22:53] <hicham> why?
[22:53] <hicham> most people use sun-jre
[22:54] <EruditeHermit> because I support open software
[22:55] <hicham> me too
[22:55] <hicham> here is a tip
[22:55] <hicham> try to find the class in jre and put in OpenJDK's runtime
[22:55] <hicham> usually, there is a main jar file
[22:55] <hicham> which contains the basic runtime classes
[22:57] <EruditeHermit> doesn't it load all the classes in jre?
[22:57] <EruditeHermit> already
[22:57] <hicham> yes, but as u told, it doesnt find some classes
[22:57] <EruditeHermit> how do I find it?
[22:57] <hicham> plus, the open jdk wont use the sun package
[22:58] <hicham> it is obvious
[22:58] <EruditeHermit> err
[22:58] <EruditeHermit> I'm new to all this
[22:58] <EruditeHermit> so forgive my ignorance
[22:58] <hicham> me too i m new dont worry
[22:58] <hicham> r u working on ubuntu?
[22:58] <EruditeHermit> yes
[22:59] <EruditeHermit> I have hte ubuntu packages installed
[23:03] <EruditeHermit> ok
[23:03] <EruditeHermit> I got it to work
[23:03] <EruditeHermit> somehow
[23:03] <EruditeHermit> but I still am confused by something
[23:03] <hicham> how did u do?
[23:03] <EruditeHermit> so
[23:03] <hicham> what?
[23:04] <EruditeHermit> it turns out that I seem to have 2 javas installed
[23:04] <EruditeHermit> if I go to run
[23:04] <EruditeHermit> then there is a tab called JRE
[23:05] <EruditeHermit> in that tab there is Project JRE (OpenJDK)
[23:05] <hicham> here is a program to help you : galternatives
[23:06] <hicham> and u can choose from the project properties too
[23:06] <EruditeHermit> but it is using a jre in a directory called java-1.5.0-gcj-4.3-1.5.0.0
[23:06] <EruditeHermit> and also one directory called openjdk-6-jdk
[23:06] <EruditeHermit> why are there two?
[23:08] <hicham> u have to choose the compiler
[23:08] <hicham> and the runtime
[23:09] <EruditeHermit> but why do I have two when I only installed openjdk-6-jdk
[23:10] <EruditeHermit> hmm
[23:10] <EruditeHermit> I am confused why I have gcj as well as openjdk
[23:10] <EruditeHermit> and what the difference is
[23:10] <EruditeHermit> for example
[23:10] <EruditeHermit> I seem to have 2 implementations of java in /usr/lib/jvm/
[23:11] <EruditeHermit> one is /usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-6-jdk and the other is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-4.3-1.5.0.0
[23:14] <hicham> openjdk is project different from gcj
[23:14] <hicham> it may uses some elements of it
[23:14] <hicham> but it is not the same
[23:14] <hicham> java-gcj is installed by default
[23:14] <hicham> that is why there is a folder for it
[23:20] <EruditeHermit> hmm
[23:22] <hicham> do u understand now?
[23:24] <EruditeHermit> i guess
[23:24] <EruditeHermit> can I get rid of the gcj version
[23:33] <EruditeHermit> can i remove the package gcj-4.3?
[23:33] <EruditeHermit> the whole java situation is so confusing because there are so many open source implementations of it
[23:33] <EruditeHermit> cacao, openjdk, gcj, icedtea
[23:34] <EruditeHermit> and many of them overlap
[23:34] <EruditeHermit> but they also all have their own packages
[23:34] <EruditeHermit> which makes it a big mess for someone who doesn't know what they are doing