[12:07] <v2> Hi, i just heard about ubuntu mobile  and im really excited, because i have lot of 3g phones  and im sick of symbian and windows mobile 
[12:08] <v2> so could some explai me to get started
[12:08] <v2> plzz
[12:08] <persia> v2, OK.  First up. "Ubuntu Mobile" has become more of a concept than any actual deliverable, and is focused on optimising the Ubuntu experience on devices that are mobile.
[12:09] <v2> ok
[12:09] <persia> At this time, there are no good dialer applications in the archive, so use as a mobile phone is not included.
[12:09] <v2> ok
[12:09] <persia> You maybe able to run Ubuntu on some mobile phones (I run it on the Sharp D4), but it doesn't work like a phone if you do, so it's only useful for the larger screen smartphones with keyboards.
[12:10] <v2> yea i have normal phones so that is ot problem
[12:10] <persia> To get started, your best bet is to first try to get Ubuntu installed on your target device.  RIght now, there's not really a standard way for most of these things to get a new OS, so you can't just stick in a CD and expect it to work.
[12:10] <v2> *not
[12:10] <v2> ok
[12:11] <persia> If your phone can boot from USB, or from SD, that's just creating a proper SD card or USB stick for a live environment.
[12:11] <v2> ok
[12:11] <persia> If it can't, you would do better to look at the device-specific discussion fora for your device about installing alternate operating systems.
[12:12] <v2> ok
[12:13] <persia> The other way to go about it is to fiddle with software stacks in a virtual environment (e.g. KVM), and try to improve the software experience.  If your area of expertise is more in this area, there's available images for KVM, and the insides are just a special Ubuntu install with all the standard tools.
[12:13] <v2> ok
[12:15] <v2> does nokia phones work easily ?
[12:16] <ogra> the n8x0 tablets roughly work ... 
[12:16] <v2> ok
[12:17] <v2> how about lg
[12:19] <v2> ?
[12:19] <v2> nobody knows?
[12:19] <v2> well thanks for all info!
[12:20] <persia> v2, Good luck on getting your devices installed.
[12:20] <v2> thx
[16:54] <mlpug> where are the KVM images mentioned above
[17:05] <rzr> mlpug: topic ^
[17:05] <rzr> ogra: what about n770  ?
[22:45] <ScottK> Is it OK if I send a user having armel install problems here?
[22:48] <ogra> ScottK, #ubuntu-arm might be better
[22:49] <ScottK> Thanks
[22:49] <ogra> (we try to keep desktop flavour and arch enablement distinct
[22:49] <ogra> )
[22:49] <ScottK> Right.
[22:49] <ScottK> It's all very confusing.
[22:49] <ogra> heh
[22:50] <ogra> not really if you think of it ... its like i would send people having amd64 specific probs on kubuntu to #kubuntu-devel :)
[22:51] <ScottK> True.
[22:51] <ScottK> I found a tester for Kubuntu on armel, so I'm interested to see how it goes for him.
[22:51] <ogra> heh, on what HW does he test ?