[00:13] Riddell / ryanakca / ScottK: an extra "to" was left after editing in the first sentence in the congratulations debian message, that we might want to delete... just for readability [00:13] Oops. [00:13] * ScottK looks at ryanakca to fixor. [00:13] a|wen: Thanks for writing it and for noticing. [00:14] of course :) [00:23] \o/ kde4libs actually built. [00:23] on hppa [00:23] woo! [00:24] dtchen: How much "bend over, here it comes Kubuntu" should I read into your PA mail to devel-discuss? [00:28] ScottK: none unless i'm misreading the kubuntu-meta seed [00:28] ScottK: i.e., kubuntu-desktop doesn't appear to seed pulseaudio [00:29] the autospawn heads-up really only affects people who explicitly install pulseaudio into [KX]ubuntu [00:29] dtchen: OK. Does PA get pulled in as a depends of certain packages or is it just infrastructure? [00:29] (or Mythbuntu) [00:29] OK. [00:29] Glad to hear it. [00:29] e.g., i installed kubuntu-desktop on top of Ubuntu, so i'm responsible for breakage ;) [00:30] I don't think Ubuntu has broken Kubuntu yet this cycle, so their behind on their quota. [00:30] a clean kubuntu-desktop install or distribution upgrade wouldn't have PA pulled in [00:30] * ScottK nods [00:55] a|wen, ScottK: fixed, thanks [00:56] thx ryanakca [00:57] Tscheesy_: We have an lpia optimized cd image that needs testing on atom too.... [00:57] hmm.. [00:58] rgreening (who's not here right now) has one too, but hasn't gotten around to trying it yet. [00:59] a live is no prob.. in Jaunty the wlan is broken anyway atm [01:00] atheros ^^ [01:00] btw is the bluetooth audio management still buggy in jaunty or is this fixed :) [01:00] better will it be fixec ? [01:00] the encryption is not working here [01:01] or - gnome keypairing is still my workaround [01:01] bluetooth is up to not totally broken. Seems to work for some and not others. [01:01] We could use some good solid bug reporting to send upstream so it gets fixed in 4.2.1. [01:01] ScottK, on intrepid it isnt working now for a friends headset :) so i thought it will be fixed in jaunty for all [01:02] ghostcube: Did he update to 4.1.4? [01:02] i can test and file reports if iam back on this machine [01:02] ScottK, 4.2 [01:02] finakl [01:02] the dongle works the pairing not [01:02] The 4.2 in the PPA has the same bluetooth patches as Jaunty. [01:02] its found but it doesnt pair [01:02] So it should be the same. [01:03] hmm ok so its not working :| [01:03] i will check if i find any usefull bugreports for the tracker if iam back at his machine [01:08] ScottK: i believe kdebindings should build [01:08] it failed on soproano, which finished building about 4 hours after kdebase failed [01:08] kdebindings, rather [01:08] vorian: So you think it was transient? [01:09] that would be my opinion [01:12] OK. I'll try it again. Thanks. [01:12] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph is updated based stuff I learned from all my retries. [01:13] hmm [01:13] if you have multiple tabs open in konsole, then close one, you lose the ability to cut/paste [01:14] The big change is kdeedu moved to the depends on kdebindings set with the python marble bindings getting added. [01:14] ah, yes [01:41] new kubuntu-artwork-upsplash eh? [01:59] seele: New quassel in my PPA. It has a first startup wizard and lots more icons now. [02:02] ScottK: kk i'll check it out [02:04] * ScottK just noticed he made the Quassel contributors tab. [02:04] woo hoooo [02:05] seele: You're in there too. [02:06] Congrats scottk and seele [02:07] hah wow. i dont think anyone has added me to their app credits before [02:07] oh wow, that first time wizard is pretty nice [02:08] btw quassel intrepid has a bad memory leak - at least here atm [02:10] Tscheesy_: Which version are you using? [02:11] kde4.2 on intrepid - v3.1 is in the app-info but i think it's 0.4 [02:11] Tscheesy_: Where did you install it from? [02:12] If you installed it from intrepid-backports it's really 0.3.1. The only place to get it pre-built for Intrepid that I know of is my PPA. [02:12] * vorian gives quassel another spin [02:12] *** 0.3.1+git20081219-0ubuntu0~ppa2 0 [02:13] Tscheesy_: Looks like a very old snapshot from my ppa. [02:13] Or someone else's actually [02:13] I doubt I'd have used that version number. [02:13] ok :( need an update here [02:13] See https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive/ppa [02:14] thanks [02:14] That's got a package for Intrepid that's current with their git head. === heHATEme is now known as vorian_ === vorian_ is now known as [v] [02:44] ScottK: i will try tomorrow.. atm apt-cache doesn't find quassel in this ppa [02:44] Tscheesy_: Make sure you put the intrepid sources.list line in and not the jaunty one. [02:46] yes -ups an /n missing [02:48] ah - thks.. misstypings.. [03:35] vorian: kdebinginds got past where it failed, so if it makes it to the end or not, you were right about that. [04:24] desperate for assist with mounting of paritions for kubuntu... [04:25] have dual boot (xp/kubuntu) w all win partitions formatted to fat32 [04:26] pls..pls..help...have 3 partitions that i need to set to mount at startup... [04:26] oops... wrong channel, eh? [05:01] ScottK: ping [05:02] pong rgreening [05:02] hey ScottK [05:02] o/ [05:02] Have you looked at the gnome packagekit compared to the kde one? [05:02] the gnome one is no where near where ours is :) [05:03] Nope. I've just been looking at it FtBFS on armel and ia64. [05:03] Great/ [05:03] :) [05:03] THe gnome users are going to miss synaptic [05:04] the KDE users will adapt easy enough... [05:04] Well I think neither is a sufficiently secure design I would recommend using them. [05:04] It's not hard to suck less than Adept. [05:04] lol [05:05] 2 issues remain : 1) get Application list rather than all packages and 2) debconf support [05:05] I have 1)... not sure where 2) is [05:05] I'm serious though. Stuff like DNS cache poisoning attacks get discovered after the fact. I don't think installing unsigned packages is appropriate. [05:05] I think debconf support is important too and a significant regression from Adept. [05:06] Making assumptions about conffiile changes and not asking the user is so very Xandros IMO. [05:06] ScottK: do you think we could get a FFE to add it? [05:06] Add which? [05:06] the debconf support [05:06] I think I could tackle it after Iget the other piece done [05:07] My position would it's a bug because it's a regression from Intrepid. [05:07] but not before FF [05:07] so yes then [05:07] But it's an Ubuntu Release issue, not a MOTU Release issue. [05:07] My opinion doesn't really weigh in. [05:07] lol [05:07] If it were me I'd call it bug fix and not even ask. [05:08] ScottK: sounds like a plan to me [05:08] As long as you don't mess up and cause a stink if anyone asks there is an appropriate rationale. [05:08] sure thing [05:24] All the Main stuff worth retrying is queued up now for ia64. [05:24] vorian was right. kdebindings built fine on the 2nd try. [05:26] heh [07:45] a|wen: I could create such an install if needs be, but if you know how to reproduce, I'd rather have you comment on the bug than me setting up an environment :) [08:34] Riddell, ScottK: can somebody get digikam/kipi-plugins from digikam-exp PPA and upload to Jaunty? [08:34] it just require version change and upload (remove ~jaunty~ppaX) [08:35] Riddell, ScottK: https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Edigikam-experimental/+archive/ppa/+files/digikam_0.10.0~rc2-0ubuntu1~jaunty~ppa1.dsc [08:35] Riddell, ScottK: https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Edigikam-experimental/+archive/ppa/+files/kipi-plugins_0.2.0~rc2-0ubuntu1~jaunty~ppa1.dsc [09:14] lool: i've tried to reproduce it, but haven't succeeded yet ... i can't get pulseaudio to run, which is the first part of trying to get anything useful out of it [09:14] Right, neither can I reproduce [09:16] lool: but you've got pulseaudio to run under localized environment right? [09:20] a|wen: No, I didn't use pulseaudio [09:22] lool: oh, as far as i could read, the problem would only occur when xine used pulseaudio... and not getting that to run (properly) was largely my fail at confirming :/ [09:22] I didn't see hints at pulseaudio [09:22] I'd welcome a set of steps to reproduce the bgus [09:24] lool: get pulseaudio to run; install the old libxine* and old lang-packs; run eg. amarok and in options set xine to use pulseaudio [09:26] no guarantees, but that should be the steps, as far as i can read the bug ... at least that was the steps i was trying to go for [09:42] do we have any quassel-core serving facility for kubuntu-devel? that would be cool for my shitty irc connection at work... ;-) [09:42] or did anybody port quassel-core to OpenWRT - that way I could install it on my home router... [09:44] a|wen: But that didn't work for you? [09:46] lool: i never got pulseaudio to run properly (getting hold of my sound device) [10:00] seele: well, your review and feedback helped a lot to improve quassel, so you certainly earned your spot in the contributors list :) [10:38] Lure: kipi-plugins uploaded [10:51] Lure: digikam too, thanks for those [11:14] Riddell: thank you [11:14] Riddell: will now work on merging with debian as they have open their repos [11:15] but it as a bit of mess currently due to pkg-kde-tools vs. kde4.mk differences === glade88_ is now known as glade88 [12:36] ScottK: you've got your xine-lib update through it seems [12:41] lool: no need to bother testing now; but thanks for giving it a try ^^ [13:06] a|wen: I'm still interested in testing of the langpacks [13:36] JontheEchidna: the soprano update doesn't seem to have fixed the nepomuk crash :( [13:37] Riddell: :( [13:39] Trueg doesn't seem keen on fixing it either. [13:40] oh, it was closed downstream by us upstream [13:40] * JontheEchidna tries to wrap his head around that. [13:42] Riddell: fancy you could take a look at bug 296433? [13:42] Launchpad bug 296433 in ktorrent "[jaunty] ktorrent changes in Debian require merging" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296433 [13:44] brb [13:45] Kmail still seems to periodically forget settings on upgrading [14:04] ScottK: is there a chance for a "daily" lpia-desktop.iso build? atm - there's only the alternate available (because netbooks need Stick or Netinstall i'd would be nice) [14:15] Tscheesy: Would the live cd be useful? [14:16] ScottK: for building a Stick definitly [14:16] OK, I'm not so familiar with this process. I thought when they did the alternate, I was told that would be easier. [14:19] all the HowTo's in the net consider a Live-Iso (Desktop).. i'd have to serch fo r a solution with the alternate.. and.. i don't really wan't to install on my Atom - i'd only like to have the LiveSystem [14:23] ScottK: what bould be nice would be a usb image that one could dd onto a stick for installing on the atom :) [14:23] or runing live :P [14:24] OK. [14:24] Riddell: ^^^ Seems like a reasonable request. [14:25] seele: ping [14:25] rgreening: ++ [14:25] \o/ [14:26] rgreening and Tscheesy: I've asked for it. We'll see. [14:26] ScottK: seems reasonable, slangasek would be the guy to ask to make it happen [14:26] ScottK: many thanks.. [14:27] Riddell: OK. I just asked him. [14:29] Riddell: are we decided yet on removing gdebi-kde? [14:30] Riddell: also, when we remove adept, there are dep issues on software-properties-kde to adjust to allow removal of adept. [14:30] And I still have to patch software-properties-kde to hide/remove the updates tab for better integration with kpackagekit. [14:32] rgreening: do we have the mimetype association yet for kpackagekit with .debs ? [14:32] rgreening: dep issues? [14:32] Riddell: yep. Tonio ensured it works [14:32] Riddell: software-properties-kde deps on adept (iirc) [14:33] sry.. update-notifier-kde [14:33] wrong package ... [14:33] nevermind, my bad [14:34] however, if you remove adept, it will remove update-notifier-kde which is bad [14:34] Riddell: ^ [14:35] oh I see, I'll fix that [14:35] bzr commit -m "remove network-manager-kde, hplip-gui, gdebi-kde. now using plasma n-m, system-config-printer-kde and kpackagekit" [14:35] cherreo network-manager-kde, hplip-gui, gdebi-kde [14:36] JontheEchidna / Riddell: regarding ktorrent ... debian is renaming to plasma-widget-ktorrent [14:38] ktorrent widget :) yum [14:38] JontheEchidna: it is in NEW right now it seems http://alioth.debian.org/~modax-guest/incoming/ktorrent_3.2+dfsg.1-2.dsc [14:39] noooo [14:39] they always update it so fast [14:39] now I gotta re-merge :( [14:40] :P [14:40] It'd make sense to go ahead with a parallel change here as Debian New is pretty slow atm. [14:40] currently my merge is using 3.2rc1+svnsomething [14:40] It would make sense to redo the merge if they have 3.2 final [14:41] at least to get the "right" package name from the beginning; makes it easier later [14:41] yeah, that too [14:42] hum [14:42] our plasma-widget-weather is a totally different widget than debian's [14:42] Oops [14:43] ours is the original kde-look weather plasmoid, while debian's is the proper upstream extragear one [14:44] I'd have no qualms nuking the kde-look one out of existence, though [14:44] Sounds like ours needs to go. [14:44] yes, it's inferior anyways [14:44] So would I file a request for removal and then make a new package based off the debian one? [14:48] JontheEchidna: No. Just update it. [14:48] oh, ok [14:48] Ours doesn't have a higher version number does it? [14:49] fortunately, no [14:49] Riddell: I got an email from a guy who wrote a review on 9.04 (Alpha), saying that if we were interested, we could link to it from our Reviews page. Only thing I'm iffy about is his paragraph at the end discussing the links between Linux and Anarchism, I'm err more on keeping Kubuntu away from politics... but we do have a blurb saying we aren't responsible for the content of external sites... What do you think? ... [14:49] that is to say it has a lower version number [14:49] ... http://anarchismtoday.org/News/article/sid=138.html [14:50] Ours is 0.4, upstream's is 1.0.0 [14:50] Excellent [14:50] One weather widget merge sandwhich, coming right up [14:52] ryanakca: that guy really needs to learn about ksnapshot :) [14:53] ryanakca: that's fine to link to (and free software is actually a pretty accurate example of anarchism in practice) [14:53] Riddell: Ok, I'll stick a link in :) [14:54] Read an article that Cuba is switchinh to a Linux base. Rolled their own distro called Nova iirc. [14:54] Amazingly enough I've got kde4libs and kdepimlibs built on hppa. [14:55] rgreening: So there's one case where people can grumble about Linux using Communists and be correct. [14:55] ;-) [14:55] ScottK: when does FF kick in? end of day Feb 19th? UTC? [14:55] lol [14:55] It's somewhat indeterminate. [14:57] ScottK: so, what's my deadline for the Simple Add/Remove for KpackageKit, such that I won't need a FFE [14:58] Riddell: Do you have to have the battery meter on the panel? I know it's useful for lappy's but a battery with a big red x through it just looks broken [14:58] davmor2: ++ [14:58] rgreening: The 19th, the earlier the better, but I'd ask Riddell. [14:58] Debian has plasma-widget-networkmanagement, we have plasma-widget-network-manager [14:58] well, in New [15:02] davmor2: doesn't everyone use laptops these days? :PO) [15:02] rgreening: I think it looks worse when it is beside n-m with a tick :) [15:02] interesting smiley my keyboard just produced [15:02] davmor2: but yes, that should be fixed [15:03] * davmor2 ponders taking a screenshot to prove it isn't :P [15:10] rgreening: I can't get konqueror to show the flash installer on a fresh install from today [15:11] Riddell: it doesn't work on sites like youtube or cnn [15:11] where does it work? [15:11] since they do their own checks and don't try to embed flash [15:11] Riddell: http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com try that [15:11] rgreening: nothing popping up [15:12] hmm, worked for me during my testing [15:12] Riddell: hmm... it should. yeah... [15:12] Let me try... [15:13] no worky here either [15:13] looks like it hasn't been uploaded [15:13] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase [15:13] no mention there [15:13] oh [15:13] lol [15:13] where's it too? [15:13] Riddell: it's in kde4libs [15:14] mm, I have the latest kde4libs [15:15] even without the patch something should pop up on badgerbadgerbadger [15:15] works here [15:16] it just wouldn't be nicely integrated [15:16] Yep [15:17] I purged flashplugin-nonfree. refreshed plugins ot ensure it was gone. then killall konqueror and load it up. works [15:17] davmor2: are you still in a kubuntu live CD session? [15:17] Riddell, JontheEchidna: actually I get the old one... not my new one... [15:17] Riddell: Yes [15:18] Riddell, JontheEchidna: looks like the one with the patch isn't uploaded or maybe the patch wasn't applied... [15:18] JontheEchidna: can you investigate? [15:18] Riddell: Why [15:18] davmor2: can you see what happens when you look at http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com in konqueror ? [15:19] If you can't see badgers, then it's a major regression :P [15:19] davmor2: also I take it the network manager plasmoid is working? [15:19] Kubuntu should be more badger-friendly really [15:19] Riddell: missing plugin do you want to download [15:20] davmor2: what happens when you click that you do want to download [15:21] Riddell: Requested packages are already installed [15:21] err, huh? [15:23] Riddell: thats my point. with n-m having a tick it's working with battery having a x it isn't. More frustratingly if you hover over it (the battery icon) it gives you no feedback, no title etc so then you really think that it is broken [15:31] Riddell: if one installs flashplugin-nonfree and fails to restart konqueror, that will happen [15:32] the engine doesn';t know about the plugin until complete konq restart [15:36] Tonio_: trueg is on #kde-devel if you want to ask how k3b is doing [15:37] Riddell: unfortunatelly I'm in a meeting.... no time right now... [15:37] can someone get the info for me please ? === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === _gunni_ is now known as gunni [15:44] nixternal: ping [15:44] hey guys [15:45] * markey trying to make his first ubuntu package [15:45] got some instructions from apachelogger [15:45] it says: [15:45] Riddell: anything else I can help you with before I start an install? [15:45] "Copy debian/ directory to source" [15:45] blame nixternal? [15:45] where is this debian/ dir? [15:45] In Debian I would assume :) [15:45] uhm [15:45] davmor2: no thanks [15:45] elaborate? [15:46] markey: the debian/ directory contains the packaging, you either get it from an existing package or your use dh-make to make you a template [15:46] Riddell: I got a DEBIAN/ in an existing package [15:46] is it the same? [15:46] markey: that sounds like a binary package [15:46] yes [15:47] ok, then I probably need this dh-make [15:47] markey: is this something which has been packaged before? [15:47] Riddell: apachelogger has made one package for me, and then sent me instructions how to do it myself [15:47] now he's away though [15:47] markey: you want to get his old source packaging then [15:48] don't have that, hum [15:48] just the binary one [15:48] which should be a .orig.tar.gz .diff.gz and .dsc file [15:48] hmm [15:48] DaSkreech: pong? [15:48] nixternal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvGfsROHGcM [15:48] markey: if you don't have that then you need to start from scratch with dh_make indeed (or e-mail apachelogger) [15:48] Bookmark it for later if yo ucan't play it in the background now [15:48] ok [15:50] markey: you can also take one from an existing amarok package in the repo depending on which costumizations apachelogger made for you [15:51] hmm [15:51] Nightrose: can you point me to that? [15:51] he also sent me a "pbuilderrc-aw" [15:52] markey: apt-get source amarok-kde4 iirc [15:57] Riddell: http://pastebin.com/m77a735d [15:57] Riddell: probably no need to ask for k3b : he's back for polishing... [15:58] 30 commits just for today... [15:59] yay! [15:59] Riddell: that's not strueg, but at least someone looks decided to make it to work... [15:59] boiko, never heard of him, nice that trueg has some help though [16:01] markey: this repo: deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main [16:01] thx [16:01] seele: ping-pong-paddle [16:01] Riddell: trueg also commited a bit today, so they probably work together... [16:02] Riddell: I'll take care about the packaging too, since I have to split out the libs and so on... but not in the next 2 days.... (too busy) [16:03] seele: I need to make adjustments to the text for Kpackagekit for "Software Management" for the simple Add/Remove Applications. Should it be called "Applications Management" or "Add/Remove Applications"? or something else? and should we then leave Software Management as meaning All packages (I think we should). [16:04] seele: It would help too if we used strings which already exist in translations (where possible). [16:04] Riddell: do we know anything about status of kile? ... if we should count on a kde4 version (svn?) or stick with the kde3 one [16:04] markey: there seems not to be any source :( === smarter_ is now known as smarter [16:04] I always thought that a ppa must also have the sources [16:04] Nightrose: w00t, I still missed colord nicks in quassel from konversation :p [16:05] smarter: :) it is in ScottK's latest package [16:05] Nightrose: funny, no sources in that repo, with deb-src avctivated... that is not really funny [16:05] Who maintains the simple add/remove Applications for kpackagekit? [16:05] * smarter upgrades :) [16:06] a|wen: I thought the aim was no KDE3 for Jackalope ? [16:06] Mamarok: hmm dunno then [16:06] a|wen: I don't even know what kile does :) [16:06] DaSkreech: it doesn't exist yet, rgreening is writing it [16:06] DaSkreech: no kde3 on the cd at least, as far as i am aware [16:06] Riddell: latex editor [16:06] Riddell: latex environment for KDE [16:07] markey, Mamarok: dget http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok-kde4/amarok-kde4_2.0.1.1.orig.tar.gz [16:07] DaSkreech: I have a patch. Nearing completion as we speak... [16:07] thx Riddell :) [16:07] great [16:07] :-D [16:08] Riddell: in any case, if we don't go the kde4 way, we need to make the current package actually build... [16:09] but wouldn't spend time look at it if we had other plans [16:12] Riddell: Flash works on the installed system [16:12] Riddell: Asks for password and starts download at least :) [16:12] davmor2: you had to install it first presumably? [16:12] right, good [16:13] a|wen: have you looked at the kde 4 version? [16:14] Riddell: no ... i though i remembered someone testing the kde4 version, but might just be a trick of my mind [16:15] Riddell: There is however an issue once it has installed that it keeps asking you to install it then says the package is already installed so something isn't quite right with it :( [16:16] davmor2: you need to kill all konq or reboot [16:16] cause kdelibs doesn't realize its there yet (stupid preload of konq) [16:16] does it tell the user that? [16:16] rgreening: That's daft [16:16] Riddell: no, its a issue with kdelibs and konq [16:16] DaSkreech: Plenty of KDE3 in the archive, just trying to get it off the CD. [16:16] ScottK: did getting the username correctly work for you with the latest build? [16:16] Riddell: No [16:17] ok thanks for the clarification [16:17] Riddell: this happens regardless of this patch [16:17] Sput: No. [16:17] oh. that's bad news. [16:17] * davmor2 restarting [16:17] * ScottK meant to mention that. [16:17] getpwuid is supposed to work everywhere [16:17] Riddell: Panel is still short and nepusmuk (whatever it's call) is still playing up [16:17] your package did contain my supposed fix, right? [16:18] Sput: It's a snapshot from last night, so yes. [16:18] Riddell: we actually need the debian source package, not the tarball [16:19] we have the tarball, as we actually make it :) [16:19] * Mamarok checks apacheloggers ppa [16:20] yep [16:20] Riddell: after reboot flash now works [16:20] what I'd need is the debian source package [16:20] ScottK: hmm. I'd like to know if this is a local anomaly or a common problem. so far it is one machine failing, right? I can't believe the information getpwuid should get from your /etc/passwd contains your real name, but not your user name [16:20] containing the debian/ dir [16:20] which isn't in the tarball, of course [16:20] now that would be 2 out of 3 ways of POSIX syscalls failing on that box [16:20] there's an issue on non-standard display sizes in kdm greet. Doesn't expand full width on my Atom and my new Aspire 6930. Both have odd widescreen resolutions. [16:21] Sput: I guess from here we just see how many quasselnnn show up in #kubuntu [16:21] yeah... if it's many, we can still provide a bugfix, or try at least [16:21] as for now, I'm clueless [16:22] getlogin() is supposed to work, but according to POSIX, it might still fail sometimes... getpwuid()->pw_name should be failsafe [16:23] and the fact that your real name is found (via getpwuid too), tells me that we get a pwd structure with no user name set, which sounds effed up [16:23] ScottK, Sput: could we not have the user prompted on first run to enter a new/valid nick, rather than defaulting to quasselxxx [16:23] rgreening: ack - in the KDM-Theme the 100% scale setting is no good - but found a debbdiff in the net Months ago [16:23] rgreening: we have a shiny wizard now that prompts you and allows you to edit your nickname if it's wrong [16:23] rgreening: There is a first run wizard now, so I think this is less of a problem [16:23] in 99% of all cases it should be your user name [16:24] (automatically) [16:24] ScottK: Sput: cook [16:24] cock? oO [16:24] language! [16:24] Tscheesy: so, is there a fix? I get screen corruption in the non expanded areas... [16:24] markey, Mamarok: dget http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok-kde4/amarok-kde4_2.0.1.1.orig.tar.gz [16:24] markey, Mamarok: that will get the three files which make up the source packaging [16:25] EgS: don't mention birds in here! [16:25]