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slack_somebody?00:01
ignaciohi!00:04
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administratorhello to all00:21
administratorand good day00:21
administratoris there any one who can tell me how to add sound to kde00:22
administratorlike when i open and close a windows00:22
compilerwriterAnyone have any luck with barry and Ibex on the Blackberry curve 831000:35
SquidyHi.. Is there a way to make a plasmoid using a bash script instead of python or something like that?00:38
administratorhello00:40
* khalidmian is looking for help on ktorrent ip filter00:48
khalidmianwhen i try to downoad peerguardian filter i get There are no IP addresses to convert in /home/khalidmian/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/level1.txt00:49
khalidmianwhat dat mean?oes th00:49
khalidmianwhat does that mean i mean00:49
austin_I have Kubuntu 64 bit, and need flash on konqueror00:54
austin_can anyone help?00:54
austin_Hello?00:57
khalidmianaustin_: http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php01:00
Squidya plasmoid must be writting in python or c++?01:03
Squidycan i use bash to build a plasmoid?01:03
austin_khalidmian: Its giving me an error when i try to put in : cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper && make install clean01:05
khalidmianyou have ubuntu or kubuntu?01:05
khalidmianaustin_: u have kubuntu?01:06
austin_khalidmian: kubuntu01:06
khalidmianaustin_: did u install kubuntu restricted extras?01:08
austin_khalidmian: ??? I installed the restricted drivers, if thats wht you mean....i also did the updates01:08
khalidmiansudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras should install01:09
khalidmianooops01:10
khalidmianaustin_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras01:10
austin_khalidmian: Then it will work?01:10
khalidmianyes01:11
austin_alright, we'll see here in just a few moments...01:11
austin_64 bit is a good choice for a new user right?01:11
khalidmianmakes no difference i prefer 32 bit01:12
austin_what would the difference be?  i have 4 gigs of ram, i heard 32 won't read it all01:12
what_ifaustin_: I think the kernel has himem support (> 1G ram) by default now... lemme go check01:16
austin_and "cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper && make install clean" still wont work "NO such file or directory" it says01:18
austin_anyone?01:21
what_ifaustin_: you have full privilages to that folder ?01:22
austin_what_if: I'm not sure. I am the only installer, but from what i've seen before i need to set stuff sometime..so i do not know, i assume so?01:24
what_ifaustin_: given that the folder is in /usr/...... you may need to be root, or at least put sudo before the command01:25
austin_what_if: i put sudo, still tells me the directory does not exist01:26
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what_ifaustin_: hmmm, does the directory exist?01:26
austin_what_if: I do not know....i'm new to linux still, i just installed it and u know, ran that package thing01:27
what_ifaustin_: what is it you need to compile then ? is it not in the repositories ?01:27
wildbatanyone know c here ?01:28
what_ifwildbat: poorly...01:28
r0pter_hi ... i need help ... i need libraries of /usr/X11R6/X11/lib, but this directory is empty. how do i get these?01:29
wildbati can't get ld work even hello world can you help ?01:29
r0pter_yes01:29
what_ifaustin_: nspluginwrapper is in the repositories, you can install it from there01:30
Dragnslcraustin_- I doubt that /usr/ports would exist in Kubuntu. ports is a BSD thing01:30
austin_what_if: this is what i'm trying to do: http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php01:30
austin_i was sen't this link01:30
DragnslcrWell, that's going to be specific to FreeBSD01:30
DragnslcrAs the URL should make pretty clear01:31
cuznt!flash01:31
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:31
austin_xD guess your right..01:31
austin_so what do i get to install flashy?01:33
what_ifaustin_: getting the link, just a sec01:33
what_ifaustin_: you have 32 or 64 bit kubuntu ?01:33
r0pter_get flashplugin-nonfree and remove all other01:33
austin_how do i remove them?01:34
r0pter_apt-get remove gnash ... for example01:35
austin_i really don't know what i'm doing here guys.....gnash is not what i put then i'm assuiming?01:36
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khalidmiancan anyone assist on ktorrent ipfilter issue01:37
austin_will 32 bit be a good idea to switch too instead, like, will i run into problems like this in the future?01:37
what_ifaustin_: nash is a little behind flash10 in support01:37
what_if+g :)01:37
austin_ok, so what do i do in the terminal?01:38
what_ifaustin_: I run 64 bit here with no problems. 64bit kubuntu is actually dual lib (32+64 bit)01:38
what_ifapt-get remove gnash01:39
what_ifapt-get install flashplayer-nonfree01:39
what_if*** apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree01:39
* what_if my bad01:39
austin_i got "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" for both01:40
austin_wte01:40
austin_"0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."01:40
what_ifthen it is already installed...01:40
what_ifis it still not working?01:41
austin_hm....oh hold on01:41
what_ifremember you have to close the browser (all of them) and then re-run01:41
austin_>.> what would be a good flash site to test out...youtube?01:41
austin_yah still not working01:42
cuzntwhat browser?01:43
austin_Konqueror01:44
cuzntyou must enable it i think in prefs01:44
austin_?how do i do that01:44
cuzntim not sure.... flash does not work well in konqueror for me01:44
cuznti use epiphany01:44
cuzntmostly01:44
cuznt!epiphany01:45
austin_will fire fox work dandy?01:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about epiphany01:45
cuzntyes01:45
cuzntfirefox works too....01:45
austin_and do you guys recommend sticking with 32 bit softwre, or actually using the 64 if they have it01:45
cuznti am only 3201:45
halfsane64 baby!01:45
cuzntso i do not know01:45
what_if6401:45
halfsaneits a landslide!01:46
austin_ok cool! anyone wan't to tell me whats so speical about 64, besdies the fact it won't run dead after 2038?01:46
what_ifin normal every-day computing 64 bit is nothing...01:46
austin_well, why would i prefer 64 over 32?01:47
what_iffor scientific and mathematical applications / large servers it allows for more date, more storage01:47
cuzntit won't run dead after 2038?01:47
what_if*data01:47
cuzntwhats that mean01:47
what_ifunix y2k01:47
austin_the whole Unix thing01:47
austin_lol01:47
what_ifhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem01:47
austin_lol01:47
austin_123456790!01:48
austin_so really theres no difference between 64 and 3201:48
austin_just stick with 64 bit software? and can 64 run anything 32?01:48
what_ifto the desktop user no. bragging rights01:48
halfsaneyep, the big advantage is you can use > 4GB memory01:49
what_ifmaybe _maybe_ certian applications will run faster in 64 bit bit its rare01:49
austin_yay! :D nice guys/ladys, thank you :)01:49
austin_i just got a new acer 21 inch screen, and my KDE4 desktop is loooooking nice01:50
halfsaneyea , 4.2 is beautiful         ... nice monitor01:50
* what_if likes kde4, but misses konqueror01:51
austin_yah, but i think i'll do with firefox, i just snagged a theme for it to match01:52
austin_*flash is working now btw! gracias*01:52
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what_ifaustin_: awesome01:55
austin_ok guys, quick supernoob question: I have a tar.gz file on my desktop, how do i install?01:57
DragnslcrYou can use ark to extract it01:57
DragnslcrAfter that, depends on what it is01:57
austin_Dragslcr: its songbridx6401:58
what_ifI'm copying files from my blackberry to an external HD. how/where can I see the progress ?01:58
Dragnslcraustin_- is it source code that you have to compile?01:59
what_ifthere was a transfer popup, but it went away after a few seconds (3.5GB of music... no way it was that fast)01:59
austin_Dragnslcr: I guess so. theres folders like plugins, lib, crips, LICENSE.html, songbird-bin01:59
Dragnslcraustin_- I dunno. Look for a README file02:00
austin_found one, doesn't say jack....what do you guys use to sync with ipod and play muzic?02:00
halfsaneaustin_: amarok02:01
austin_do linux apps have a set up? like u have in windows?02:01
zaapiel-mobileheh02:01
zaapiel-mobileo man02:02
halfsaneaustin_: .deb packages will, some you need to compile yourself, and others you can just run from the terminal02:02
austin_halfsane: well i ran a terminal fiel i guess, but now its telign me my library is corrupt and cannot be read02:02
austin_i clicked continue anyway, but it still launched02:03
halfsaneaustin_: dont know man, try this out next time http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html02:04
SuspectZerohow can i mount a file thats on my smb network?02:04
austin_my cd's not working (the command) :(02:09
Dr_willisthats a little vague..02:09
SuspectZerohow can i mount a file thats on my smb network?02:11
Dr_willisYou may need to actually 'mount' the share. then mount the file via the loop options in mount02:12
itsatrickI have this problem with Openoffice.org.  For some reason, it screws up the KDE Plasmoids. Does anyone else have this problem?02:14
itsatrickI can post a screenshot (somehow) of what happens.02:14
r0pter_how do i get the libraries for X??? i have no libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib ... are the at another place?02:20
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Dragnslcrr0pter_- might need the Xorg dev packages02:22
Alan_LockwoodHi.02:22
Alan_LockwoodWhere is the files of SuperTux (game). I whould like to get some of its musics =)02:23
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cuznt!SuperTux02:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about SuperTux02:25
Alan_Lockwood!SuperTux02:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about SuperTux02:26
Alan_LockwoodIt does not know...02:26
Alan_Lockwood!supertux02:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about supertux02:26
Alan_Lockwoodi had to try xD02:26
DragnslcrAlan_Lockwood- looks like it's in /usr/share/games/supertuxkart02:33
r0pter_@Dragnslcr thx ... i tried some packages, but noone was the right02:33
Alan_Lockwoodim going to see...02:33
Alan_LockwoodYEAH!02:35
Alan_LockwoodI got it!02:35
Alan_LockwoodTHANKS A LOT!02:35
Alan_Lockwood:D02:35
halfsanehey all, whats the best irc client to be using?02:40
Dr_willisDepends on your needs.02:40
Dr_willisI use xchat or irssi02:40
halfsaneDr_willis: thanks,  im using the default app... figured there was better out there..02:41
Dr_willisdepends on your needs :)02:42
halfsaneno doubt,   lookin for something with a slimmer UI,   thanks02:43
quassel34#ubuntu-es02:44
r102714olas03:08
mr-t---!es03:10
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:10
tyronehello i always had my panel semi transparent but i changed its size and now its solid color i tryed to changed it back but i cannot find an option to do that can anyone help me I am using kde 4.203:13
tyroneI want to add that when i move it to antoher screenedge it becomes transparent again03:16
SuspectZeroi got a .sh script but when i chmod +x it, it still shows up as not a command03:22
SuspectZeroany suggestions?03:22
huntzhello all, I have a question about updating03:23
chuckfSuspectZero: I am assuming you ran it as ./command03:25
SuspectZero...damn03:25
SuspectZeroim a tard03:25
chuckfSuspectZero: its late, you're allowed this time...03:26
SuspectZerohahha thanks XD03:26
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huntzI am running edgy and noticed that adept wont let me get updates for programs, reading the faq it says that there are no updates just upgrades03:32
huntzso can I get updates from some other resources till I get a little more comfortable with kubuntu03:33
huntzor is upgrading from edgy to fiesty or higher not that complicated03:34
mr-t---!upgrade03:39
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:39
huntzlol03:40
huntzI left my grub uninstalled after fixing windows I hadnt even realized I was running obsolete03:41
chuckfI'm new to konversation. How do I turn off the join/part messages?03:41
huntzUbotto: thanks for the link. well this should be fun, to bad I waited so long to come back, I had no idea I was so far behind03:47
SocceroosRiddell: ping03:50
huntzSo I figure that I shouldn't let adept do the upgrade, being as the eolupgrades page is all terminal entry right?03:52
aleyvahola a todos03:55
Dragnslcrchuckf- Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> Chat Window03:55
aleyvaalguien tiene problemas abriendo DVD y CD03:56
aleyva[23866.208011] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] unaligned transfer03:56
aleyvacon esos errores03:56
aleyvaen dmesg03:56
aleyvaen Kubuntu 81003:56
Pici!es | aleyva03:57
ubottualeyva: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:57
aleyvaplop03:58
yady_hola alguien me podria explicar para que es este chat04:17
mr-t---!es04:20
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:20
yady_hola04:22
quassel249hoa04:22
yady_hola tu sabes para que es este chat04:22
bryanhello all. i am trying to install a canon pixma mp620. i am getting an error that says pstocanonij not installed04:25
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sillemedesperate for assist with mounting of paritions for kubuntu...04:28
robotgeeksilleme: what do you need?04:29
sillemehave dual boot (xp and kubuntu setup)04:29
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sillemehelp with mounting 3 partitions fat 3204:29
sillemeto kubuntu.04:29
bryanwill wine work to install printer drivers?04:30
robotgeekbryan: no04:30
robotgeeksilleme: are you comfortable with working from a terminal?04:30
sillemeno... but can.. s long as i can follow the basic commands04:31
bryanrobotgeek: whats the best way to install a printer then? i see the driver on the openprinting database. it works but its not a good print out04:31
robotgeeksilleme: okay, please open a terminal window.04:31
sillemedone04:31
robotgeekbryan: what do you mean, not a good printout? have you checked printer settings (make sure you are using high quality)04:32
robotgeeksilleme: sudo fdisk -l04:32
ciberhello04:32
ciberhelllo04:32
ciberwhat you doo??04:32
legionwuallla04:32
robotgeekciber: do you need help with something?04:32
sillemek04:32
robotgeeksilleme: please paste the output in pastebin.04:32
robotgeek!pastebin > silleme04:33
ubottusilleme, please see my private message04:33
sillemerobotgeek:  have 2 pcs running.  linux syst sepaerate from one i am on now...04:34
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robotgeeksilleme: i have my kde up and running now.04:36
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bryanrobotgeek: the print out has dashes in it. and the fonts are to big04:37
ciberhello04:37
ciberhello04:38
bryanrobotgeek: it looks like it was printed on dotmatrix printer.. there are horizontal white lines that are everywehre04:38
sillemerobotgeek; will try to connect to irc thru linux system04:38
robotgeeksilleme: no need,04:38
khalidmianim looking for ktorrent ipfilter related help04:38
robotgeeksilleme: try this. Go to Ssytem Settings, and in advanced "Disks and File Systems"04:39
khalidmianwhen i try running ipfilter under ktorrent it says There are no IP addresses to convert in /home/username/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/level1.txt04:40
sillemerobotgeek k... cause i wa having difficult time figuring out konveration for 1st time..  ok... will go there now04:40
sillemerobotgeek: there now.04:41
robotgeekkhalidmian: you actually need a list of ip addresses there, in that location, i think04:41
bryananyother ideas on getting a printer driver installed?04:41
ciberhello!!04:42
ciberhello!04:42
sillemerobotgeek:  the only partitions so far mounted are my linux one (ext3) and cdrom04:42
khalidmianrobotgeek: i selectd peerguradianfilter and ipfilterfile from bluetack.co.uk/cofig/splist.zip and tried to download and convertit but get the command There are no IP addresses to convert in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/level1.txt04:43
robotgeekkhalidmian: did you actually unzip the file?04:43
mr-t---ciber: what04:43
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robotgeekkhalidmian: and try to import it?04:44
khalidmianrobotgeek: isnt ktorrent suppose to download/convert byitself04:44
robotgeekkhalidmian: i have not used it in a long time, try unzip and see if it works04:44
ciberHELLO!04:45
khalidmianrobotgeek: doesnt not unzip04:45
ciberwhat they name?04:45
robotgeekciber: do you need help with something?04:45
robotgeeksilleme: which version of kde are you using?04:46
mr-t---ya thats what i said04:46
khalidmianrobotgeek: ark cannot open archive splist.zip04:46
robotgeekkhalidmian: do u have unzip installed?04:47
sillemerobotgeek: i think 7.4...?04:47
robotgeekkhalidmian: sudo apt-get install unzip, then see if you can unzip it (you could have a bad file downloaded)04:47
khalidmianisnt ark an archiving tool04:48
robotgeekkhalidmian: it is a wrapper around the cmd line tools04:48
robotgeeksilleme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G04:51
khalidmianrobotgeek: unzip is already the newest version.04:52
robotgeekkhalidmian: http://bluetack.co.uk/cofig/splist.zip does not exist04:54
robotgeekkhalidmian: go there in your browser04:54
khalidmianits not cofig its config04:55
robotgeekkhalidmian: unzip does not like the file anyways. it says it might be a part of a multifile archive or so.04:58
khalidmianyup04:58
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bsimsAnyone know why inconsolata looks like canned arse in konversation05:02
ubuntu_test05:03
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tbensthey05:04
tbenstI'm trying to partition a fakeRAID 005:04
tbenstwhile keeping the current NTFS partition05:05
tbenstI already used ntfsresize05:05
tbenstbut when i used parted -l05:06
tbenstit showed a start location as 32.3kB05:06
tbenstany ideas as to why its 32.3kB? (as opposed to a normal number)05:06
tbensthello05:10
robotgeektbenst: what would a normal number be?05:11
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arnishai aib06:28
puneethhow do i change preffered applications in kubuntu?06:29
arnishai puneeth06:30
puneethi want to know how to change preffered applications in kubuntu06:31
puneethplease tell me how to06:31
arnisjusi install06:31
bazhangpuneeth, which apps06:33
puneethfirefox06:36
puneethbazhang, i use thunderbird n there are links sent to me... when i click on the link firefox used to open by default now nothing opens06:37
bazhangpuneeth, running kubuntu 8.10?06:37
puneethbazhang; i just installed KDE 4.2 over ubuntu 8.10... so u can say... yeah kubuntu 8.1006:38
bazhangpuneeth, do you see 'system settings' ?06:38
puneethbazhang, got it... thanks06:39
bazhangKmenu > System > System settings > preferred applications06:39
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DjFlyByseems everytime I try to install Kubuntu it installs fine, but upon reboot after the install it just goes to the grub screen06:40
puneethbazhang, now how do i make firefox default?06:40
bazhangsorry 'default applications'06:41
bazhangunder 'web browser'06:41
DjFlyByanyone have any ideas for me?06:42
scbirdHi there all, having some trouble with the KDE 4.2 packages07:06
scbirdThere is a clash on /usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu07:08
scbirdbetween kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb and kdebase-workspace-bin07:08
scbirddoes anyone know how to resolve it?07:09
linlenoHi, I'm facing a problem that KDM activates IM(input method) program/module as root before normal user login.07:18
linlenoHow do I solve this problem?07:18
linlenoAs a result, user cannot access the im program to do CJK input.07:19
shadeslayerhi,how do i install qassel on kubuntu07:22
bazhang!info quassel07:24
ubottuquassel (source: quassel): distributed, Qt based, IRC client using a central core component. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu9 (intrepid), package size 2246 kB, installed size 4236 kB07:24
bazhangsudo apt-get install quassel07:24
shadeslayerwont work07:25
shadeslayeroh wait,it just did07:25
bazhangheh07:25
shadeslayerwrong name i guess07:25
shadeslayeri wrote quassle earlier07:25
bazhangits a tricky one :)07:26
shadeslayercan anybody help me with adept,it keeps crashing07:35
shadeslayernever mind,it went up07:36
linlenoshadeslayer: don't use adept any more07:36
linlenoadept has stoped develope07:37
shadeslayerlinleno: what should i use yhen?07:38
shadeslayer*then07:38
shadeslayerbrb07:39
shadeslayerhi,how do i unistall a program??07:41
shadeslayercommand line please07:41
jussi01shadeslayer: sudo apt-get remove program07:42
jussi01shadeslayer: you can add "--purge" if you want all config files gone also07:42
shadeslayerjussi01: oh its remove,i thought uninstall07:42
shadeslayerjussi01: ok07:43
shadeslayeri was removing irssi,making space on my HD07:43
wrinkliezugh, is there a way to change a file type icon in kde4?07:45
wrinkliezi can't seem to change .torrents :(07:46
shadeslayer!adept | shadeslayer07:46
ubottushadeslayer, please see my private message07:46
shadeslayerlinleno: whats the alternative to adept??07:47
linlenoshadesplayer: kde3 version of adept is just fine07:48
linlenobut kde4 version is half completed07:48
shadeslayerah,ok07:48
linlenosynaptic is a good alternative07:48
shadeslayeri hav no problems with half completed things07:48
linlenoin my own opinion07:48
shadeslayeri have synaptic installed too07:49
linlenoshadeslayer: ha~ you can choose any software you like, it's kind of core spirit of oss07:50
shadeslayerhehe07:50
shadeslayerim still trying to figure out why my keyboard cursor jumps about07:51
shadeslayertakes me twice as much time to type in kubuntu as opposed to ubuntu07:51
shadeslayer*windows07:51
shadeslayerbrb on quassel07:54
shadeslayer_OMG what happened to firefox08:01
jessieshadeslayer_: when?08:01
shadeslayer_wait ill show you08:01
shadeslayer_my theme is like uugggghh08:02
tbenst Hi, I'm trying to resize the NTFS partition in my raid 008:02
tbenstwhen i do parted -l it shows the partition as starting at 32.3kB08:03
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shadeslayer_ Myspace, Digg, Facebook, and others!08:03
tbenstso i'm unsure as to what i should put as the start value, as 32.3 kB is not an integer value for bits08:04
tbenstany advice?08:04
shadeslayer_:O08:04
bazhang!imagebin08:04
ubottuWant to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel.08:04
bazhangshadeslayer_, ^^08:04
shadeslayer_hehe08:04
shadeslayer_cool theres even a imagebin08:05
shadeslayer_http://imagebin.org/3852108:06
shadeslayer_there08:06
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tbenstany thoughts? i've never done a partition through command line before08:07
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shadeslayerjust look at ff in that screenshot :O08:08
bazhang!info gtk-qt-engine08:08
ubottugtk-qt-engine (source: gtk-qt-engine): theme engine using Qt 4 for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1+svn20080816-0ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 94 kB, installed size 508 kB08:08
shadeslayeroh wait it corrected itself,lol08:09
shadeslayeri just restarted ff308:09
shadeslayerweird08:09
linleno!info gtk-qt-engine08:10
ubottugtk-qt-engine (source: gtk-qt-engine): theme engine using Qt 4 for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1+svn20080816-0ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 94 kB, installed size 508 kB08:10
tbensthey so does anyone have experience with the parted command?08:10
Ezra_hurro08:11
Ezra_i need some helps with Network Manager 0.708:11
shadeslayerEzra_: go ahead08:12
tbensthey i need some help with partitioning my drive so i can install ubuntu08:14
Ezra_I cant make it connect to a connection ive setup08:14
shadeslayertbenst: tried gparted08:15
tbensti have already resized the ntfs filesystem using ntfsresize08:15
Ezra_i assume the connection with the "X" on it is the one connected08:15
shadeslayerEzra_: wired??08:15
Ezra_and i cant change it08:15
Ezra_yes =(08:16
Ezra_as wireless was a complete failure08:16
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shadeslayerEzra_: why???08:16
wildbatmy laptop work on both wired and wireless >.>08:16
tbenstthanks shade08:17
EzraNZwireless connects and cionnects to the internet for Konquer, but not for Adept08:17
shadeslayerwifi has some problems with activation,just activate wifi after disabling it08:17
EzraNZso i cant update with wireless for some unknown reason08:17
wildbatEzra: how you connected to this chatroom  if you said you are not connected08:17
EzraNZvia a windows PC08:18
EzraNZi really want to get kubuntu updating.. but network manager seems to be preventing that so far08:18
roger_st9op08:18
roger_stop08:19
shadeslayerEzraNZ: try sudo apt-get upgrade in konsole08:19
EzraNZreading package lists etc08:20
EzraNZ0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove08:21
EzraNZetc08:21
shadeslayerthen the connection is working08:21
EzraNZi dont think so08:21
EzraNZi cant use apet to search for packages08:21
shadeslayerare you trying to upgrade after adding a PPA???08:22
EzraNZPPA?08:22
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shadeslayersoftware in n00b terms08:22
bazhang!ppa08:22
ubottuWith Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.08:22
EzraNZthis is a fresh install of Kubutnu 8.10 via Wubi08:22
shadeslayerah08:22
EzraNZi have not installed anything extra from anywhere08:22
shadeslayerand youre trying to08:23
EzraNZuse Adept to update the system08:23
EzraNZi assume the "PING" command works in kubuntu08:24
EzraNZpinging kde.org returns nothing08:24
shadeslayermmmm yeah08:24
wildbatgoogle.com?08:24
tbenstshade: does gparted work with raid 0?08:24
tbensti'm running a so-called "fakeraid"08:25
EzraNZgoogle.com the same result nothing08:25
tbensthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto08:25
shadeslayerno idea,just had a random thought about it08:25
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wildbatthen you have problem with your connecion not with the apt08:25
EzraNZfor my current wired connect i need to specify my IP for my proxy to work, but the network manager will not connect to the wired connection i setup08:26
shadeslayerwildbat: yeah thats what s/he was saying08:26
EzraNZit will connect to a connection with DHCP by default, but thats useless for the reaosn above08:26
shadeslayerEzraNZ: you did activate the connection,right??08:28
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shadeslayerEzraNZ: its not a USB wired modem,is it??08:29
shadeslayeri think only ethernet modems work as of now08:29
jessieHow can I remount a filesystem as read-write?08:29
EzraNZalso, when i first plugged in my ethernet cable, network manager connected to a unlisted connection08:30
shadeslayerjessie: how about mount in konsole08:31
jessieYes, I think I just found it. mount -o rw,remount08:31
wildbatEzraNZ: if you are behind proxy try this http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html08:32
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EzraTesthe08:34
EzraTestno it snot USE08:34
EzraTestUSB08:34
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EzraTestonce it connected i created a new one and tired to use that, im ot sure if it worked or not id say not08:34
EzraTestbut this is insane, the connection works for Konquer but not for Adept?08:36
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shadeslayerEzraTest: BTW someone just told me that adept is half broke08:36
shadeslayerso its better to use synaptic08:36
EzraNZif only it were installed?08:36
shadeslayersudo apt-get install synaptic08:38
shadeslayersudo apt-get install synaptic08:38
shadeslayeroops08:38
shadeslayerthat command in konsole08:38
shadeslayeri.e if your connection works08:38
wildbati think i is installed by default08:39
shadeslayerwildbat: synaptic in Kubuntu,no ways08:39
EzraNZyeah its not gonna work, it dosnet even know the internet exists08:39
wildbatin my laptop yes08:39
EzraNZand dosent look08:39
shadeslayerwildbat: you probably installed it accidently08:40
shadeslayer;)08:40
wildbatlol08:40
wildbatmay be08:40
EzraNZits not installed08:40
shadeslayercuz i had to install it manually08:40
shadeslayeradept is the basic package manager08:41
EzraNZdam this is annoying =(08:41
wildbatapt-get work good for me so i didn't touch both of them08:41
shadeslayerEzraNZ: did that link not work??08:41
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EzraNZlink?08:42
wildbatEzraNZ: if you are behind proxy try this http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html08:42
EzraNZoh i dont know, i cant get the connection going again =(08:42
shadeslayer http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html08:42
shadeslayerEzraNZ: in the new connection tab,what does it say??08:44
EzraNZlame.. =( guess i gotta wait till march08:44
shadeslayerwhy,what happens then08:45
EzraNZor wen eva 9.04 comes out08:45
shadeslayerhehe,its out now08:45
wildbateva?08:45
shadeslayerever08:45
wildbatohohohoh ~08:46
wildbatlol ~ i keep loading for " what waht program ?" XD08:46
shadeslayer!wired08:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wired08:47
shadeslayer!network08:47
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:47
wildbatexport http_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.net:port/08:47
wildbatexport ftp_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.netport/08:47
shadeslayerhuh08:47
wildbatEzraNZ try this two line08:47
wildbatin Konsole as root before apt-get08:48
shadeslayerBTW how do i find the hardware name of my keyboard08:48
wildbatof coz replace with your proxy setting08:48
shadeslayerthe generic name,etc08:48
wildbatno idea08:49
wildbati still can't figure out how to make my lid button work correctly08:51
shadeslayerwildbat: devil power management08:52
wildbathuh?08:52
shadeslayeror the batt in the system tray08:52
shadeslayeryou can set what closing the lid does08:52
wildbatnono it was acting strange it work AFTER i suspend to RAM or DPMS turns off the monitor08:53
wildbatbut fresh boot ~ it said no >.>08:53
shadeslayermine works fine08:54
shadeslayerunfourtunately the keyboard doesnt08:54
wildbat@,@08:54
wildbatthat kills >.<08:54
shadeslayeryeah08:55
shadeslayerim typing and suddenly the cursor jumps and im left with a garbled sentence08:55
wildbatwireless?08:55
shadeslayerthe regional manager doesnt support my keyboard08:56
shadeslayerlaptop keyboard08:56
shadeslayer:P08:56
wildbathmm what kind of keyboard you are using ? @,@;08:56
shadeslayerDell XPS M1530 standard keyboard08:57
wildbatit is a "standard keyboard"! i can see XD08:57
anthony_how to register in IRC08:57
shadeslayeranthony_: /help register08:57
shadeslayerbtter ask in #freenode though08:58
shadeslayer*better08:58
shadeslayerbrb in 5min08:58
shadeslayerhave to change rooms08:59
shadeslayerand have a wired connection :(08:59
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shadeslayerback09:07
wildbatwb09:10
voicuis irc.ubuntu.com the same as irc.freenode?09:11
voicuas far as i can tell the ubuntu related channels are the same09:11
shadeslayeryeah,i think so09:11
Jahmanhi09:11
voicuok09:11
shadeslayerbetter ask in  #freenode09:11
shadeslayer!hi | Jahman09:12
ubottuJahman: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:12
Jahmanhi shadeslayer and everybody09:12
shadeslayer;)09:13
wildbatok i am going to sleep09:16
wildbatlater guys09:16
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shadeslayerbye09:20
badseriiHi! I just changed system language to greek. I can't move back to english locale. KDM is in greek, pidgin, firefox also are in greek, even if I deleted greek language and set the system language to english. Is it a bug? How can I solve my problem? Thank you in advance!09:20
anthony_How to load the  VirtualBox kernel module ?09:25
badseriiI'm using kubuntu 8.0409:25
drew_how do i change the theme on kde 4.2?09:32
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egonwhi all, I have 4.2 running on Intrepid, but my widgets in Firefox are not properly sized, so that they are only half shown... anything I can do about this?10:16
Tm_Tegonw: hmm, try switching your gtk theme?10:17
egonwTm_T: sounds good... googling on how to change themes...10:20
egonwTm_T: no, that does not have to seem any effect...10:29
egonwTm_T: it's the buttons in web forms which are wrongly layed out10:29
Tm_Tegonw: I know, did you restart Firefox?10:29
egonwsure10:30
egonwI only had the default installed, installed one from FF Add-ons website...10:30
egonwrestarted10:30
egonwlayout of FF changed, but not of the buttons in the forms10:30
Tm_Tegonw: ah, but I wasn't talking about Firefox themes, but gtk themes (:10:31
Tm_Ttwo different things10:31
egonwoh, ok... :)10:31
egonwTm_T: something like: gtk-qt-engine-kde4 ?10:32
Tm_Tegonw: well that's good to be installed I guess too10:32
egonwwhat otherwise?10:33
egonwmeanwhile, isntalled that pkg and rebooting FF10:33
Tm_Tegonw: anyway, problem propably is that the gtk theme you're using, is not properly scaled, bug in theme I guess10:33
Tm_Tegonw: after its installed, play around with configs in systemsettings -> appearance -> gtk themes10:33
egonwok, installing that package did not help...10:35
egonwtries appearance too10:35
ct529hi there10:35
ct529anyone who know of a good package to give voive commands to the pc?10:35
ct529s/voive/voice10:35
egonwwas: 'Use my KDE style in GTK apps", Qt4 style did not help...10:35
egonwwill try Raleigh now10:36
egonwOK, that helped10:36
egonwTm_T: thanx!10:36
Tm_Tegonw: np, buggy gtk theme was to blame (:10:36
Hylmanhi... can anybody help me with bluetooth in kde?10:40
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:41
Hylmanping10:43
ActionParsnippong10:43
Tm_Tpong10:43
ActionParsniptoche10:43
Tm_Ttouché ?10:44
Tm_Tor as british might say: deuce10:45
ActionParsnipthat too10:45
ActionParsnipthats tennis....10:45
Tm_TActionParsnip: I know that (:10:46
Unggnuhi all10:47
ActionParsnip!hi | Unggnu10:47
ubottuUnggnu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:47
UnggnuIf desktop effects are disabled the panel has a blue color even if the background color is changed to black. How can I get a black one?10:47
Unggnuhi ActionParsnip10:47
Tm_TUnggnu: desktop themes doesn't follow colour settings yet10:48
ct529anyone who know of a good package to give voice commands to the pc?10:49
jithin1987hello10:49
ct529I am also having difficulties with festival .... is there anything a bit more up to date .... I have been reding articles on the internet for a while, but I have found little useful information10:49
ActionParsnip!info gnome-voice-control10:50
ubottugnome-voice-control (source: gnome-voice-control): Speech recognizer to control the GNOME Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu6 (intrepid), package size 33 kB, installed size 220 kB10:50
UnggnuTm_T: So I can't change the panel color?10:51
Tm_TUnggnu: not without changing theme10:51
UnggnuTm_T: Then why it uses this ugly turquoise ?10:52
Tm_TUnggnu: artist has chosen that10:52
Tm_TUnggnu: feel free to use another desktop theme (:10:52
ct529!sphinx10:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sphinx10:54
ct529ActionParsnip: that is gnome not kde10:54
Tm_Tct529: doesn't mean it couldn't be used10:54
ActionParsnipct529: thats all i can find in repos, unless you can find a kde one10:54
ActionParsnipct529: apt-cache search voice10:55
zer0oivegot to give a key to my wi-fi router connection whats the most compatible type with linux? i use WICD to get connected, what do u suggest? wep wap or...? in the paste i had tried some, it wasnt recognizing it10:55
zer0oActionParsnip: hi :D10:55
ct529ActionParsnip: well, I have done that already, as well as asearching the internet ....10:55
ct529ActionParsnip: al I can find is some obsolete stuff .... festival and so on ....10:56
Tm_Tct529: Festival is not obsolete, it works well10:56
ct529Tm_T: well .... it always depends on the definition of "well"10:56
UnggnuTm_T: another then Oxygen?10:56
Tm_TUnggnu: yes10:56
UnggnuTm_T: I don't understand the choosen color because the start menu is black and the transparent panel also has a black touch so turquiose makes no sense10:57
ActionParsnipct529: then you are as wise as me, i'd just use the gnome one, seems to get raved about10:57
Tm_TUnggnu: you should talk to the author then10:57
UnggnuI haven't found a theme which looks as good atm, at least which is shown in the theme downloader10:57
Unggnubut thanks for help10:57
Tm_TUnggnu: perhaps you should try and install packaged ones?10:58
ct529ActionParsnip: does it work well?10:59
ActionParsnipct529: its not something I use10:59
ActionParsnipct529: maybe theres some youtube oodness so you can watch it in action11:00
ct529ActionParsnip: thanks11:00
ct529ActionParsnip: about tts? any idea?11:00
ct529ActionParsnip: I am using festival but I am far from happy11:00
ActionParsniptts?11:00
ct529ActionParsnip: text to speech11:02
ct529!tts11:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tts11:02
iulian_when ktorrent will be upgraded to version 3.2?11:03
ActionParsnipct529: i dont have any mics apart from the one built into my work laptop, i can type far faster than any text to speech thing so I dont use it11:03
ActionParsnipct529: i'm sure there are a slew of apps out there that may need compiling, try a few out11:04
ActionParsnip!info ktorrent11:04
ubottuktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.2+dfsg.1-0ubuntu2.1 (intrepid), package size 1828 kB, installed size 9000 kB11:04
iulian_i know, but is buggy11:04
ActionParsnipiulian_: is 3.1 not working for you?11:04
iulian_it uses a lot of memory11:04
ActionParsnipiulian_: http://ktorrent.org/downloads/3.2/ktorrent-3.2.tar.bz211:05
ct529iulian_: you can configure kget to act as torrent client11:05
ActionParsnipiulian_: its out now11:05
ActionParsnipiulian_: http://ktorrent.org/?q=downloads11:05
iulian_k11:05
ActionParsnipiulian_: just gotta compile it11:06
iulian_maybe to join the kubutnu ktorrent team and make a pakage for all of us?11:07
iulian_how can a do that?(joining kubuntu ktorrent team?)11:08
ActionParsnipiulian_: you could make a deb and give it to the package maintainers11:08
jussi01!motu11:11
ubottumotu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU11:11
iulian_thanks11:13
ActionParsniphe-man?11:15
ActionParsnip!info aeolus11:30
ubottuaeolus (source: aeolus): Synthesised pipe organ emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.1-1 (intrepid), package size 112 kB, installed size 380 kB11:30
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ct529I tried ubuntustudio .... not bad!11:39
shadeslayerand how is it related to kubuntu??11:40
ct529shadeslayer: mmmm .... because kde applications that should work in kubuntu only work in ubuntustudio?11:40
JackWintershadeslayer: different desktop.  otherwise you can pretty much do all you do in US in kubuntu...11:47
shadeslayerhmmm11:48
shadeslayerdoes it have ickly sickly toothed GNOME's11:48
shadeslayer;)11:48
ct529JackWinter: in Rt kernel11:49
ct529a tiiiiiiiny difference11:49
JackWinterct529: you can load a rt kernel for kubuntu too, and possibly with 2.6.28 we won't need it anymore...11:50
JackWintershadeslayer: and sorry no idea why i responded to you :)11:50
shadeslayernp11:51
ct529JackWinter: yes, you can .... but you have to see how you not multimedia applications work .... :)11:51
JackWinterct529: i've been doing audio work in kubuntu with a wine app at 64/128 samples in jack and a realtime kernel for over a year by now.  works pretty damn good.11:53
hyper_chI wonder, if I go into system settings --> desktop search --> advanced tab: how can I make hidden folders visible so that I can index them too?11:53
ct529JackWinter: that sounds veeeeery interesting!11:53
JackWinterct529: still on 8.04 though, just booted my 8.10 to update and see if it works any better than last time around11:53
carpiiwhat wine app, just out of interest?11:54
ct529JackWinter: I had serious problems in setting up the jack server on kubuntu .... I gave up and installed ubuntustudio on a virtual machine11:54
carpiii tried Ardour before, i couldnt get it to recognise my sound system in 8.0411:54
ct529JackWinter: could you give me some pointers, please?11:54
JackWintercarpii: reaper with bsd2, amplitube, etc.11:54
carpiithanks11:54
JackWinteri suppose so.  jack is pretty difficult to install well.  as a matter of fact, sound is pretty horrible to setup in linux :)11:56
JackWinterct529: so what did you try ?11:56
carpiiyeah its a achilles heel of ubuntu for sure11:56
carpiii wish Creative would produce drivers for X-Fi, its pathetic they spent 2 years pretending to be working on them, then just gave up11:57
JackWinterit's starts with alsa and then you encounter the beast at every corner :))11:57
ct529JackWinter: yes it is .... I followed the documentation, and run as root differetn scripts .... jack appeared to be running, but none of the aplications would connect11:57
JackWinterwithout working alsa drivers you are pretty much out of luck i think....11:58
ct529JackWinter: I immagined it was because another server was "taking over" the sound11:58
carpiiyeah, i ended up buying a basic soundblaster11:58
JackWinterct529: normally you shouldn't run jack as root...11:58
carpiiwhich was a waste of money because then i realised i had onboard sound too :p11:58
ct529JackWinter: that is what the documentation sayd!11:58
ct529JackWinter: but I also tried to run it as user without any success11:59
ct529JackWinter: wasted a few days then gave up ....11:59
* ct529 sounds a bit like Creative11:59
JackWinterct529: don't know which doc says that.  one thing i did was to remove pulse audio completely.  the other thing in my favour is that i have an onboard card for linux, and a rme multiface only for jack...11:59
ct529JackWinter: oh ....12:00
ct529JackWinter: but if you remove pulseaudio what happens to all the other applications which relay on it?12:00
blaster999hi all!12:01
blaster999I am using kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2, but also am using Quanta Plus from kde 3.512:02
Tm_Tct529: no applications should be rely on pulseaudio only12:02
blaster999I need to install the SFTP kioslave for KDE3 applications, so Quanta can make use of it12:02
ct529JackWinter: when I try to remove pulseaudio, it tried to remove the entire kde desktop .... I have just tried12:02
Tm_Tct529: just don't use it then (:12:03
ct529Tm_T: don't use what?12:03
JackWinterct529: like i said i'm on kubuntu 8.04 normally and i didn't have that problem.  did you start with some ubuntu flavour and then install kde ?12:04
ct529JackWinter: nope .... standard 810 64bit install ....12:04
ct529JackWinter: is there a way to route the jack into pulse audio or the other way around?12:04
Tm_Tct529: pulseaudio, if you don't like to use it12:05
ct529Tm_T: when I try to uninstall it, the package manager tries to uninstall the whole kde desktop with all applications12:06
Tm_Tct529: no, don't uninstall then, just don't _use_ it12:06
JackWinterct529: maybe something changed for 8.10.  afaik there are probs with the -rt too in 8.10.  think the reccomendation is 8.04 for serious audio work.  now that i think about it, think i kicked pulseaudio for getting secondlife/skype/kde etc to get along, but i know that there is a problem for jack to open the alsa driver when PA already has it...12:06
ct529JackWinter: that may be the problem ....! jack started fine, but it did simply not work or return any error12:07
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JackWinterct529: think that jack would not start if it can't open the soundcard...12:08
ct529JackWinter: well, it did .... on the other hand, applications / clients did not find it ....12:08
ct529JackWinter: but ps -ef found it .....12:08
ct529JackWinter: so I ended up with ubuntustudio12:08
JackWinteranother gotcha is that the mixer might be muted, so needs to be turned on.  but a lot of this stuff is already taken care of in ubuntustudio...  me i just prefer kde so i soldier along :)12:09
ct529JackWinter: yes, I very much prefer kde .... indeed i am using ubuntustudio in a virtual machine!12:09
ct529JackWinter: checked the mixer first thing12:09
JackWinterthat probably isn't going to work to well.  you could try ubuntustudio 8.04 for audio work, and then run kubuntu 8.10 in a virtualbox with software rendering.  a bit slow but not too bad :)12:10
JackWinterct529: so you can start jackd from say qjackctl and it starts with no probs ?  then it sounds like you have jack working.  what is the next step that didn't work ?12:12
ct529JackWinter: yes correct ....12:12
ct529JackWinter: when I start a client application, it does not find jack server12:12
JackWinterhmm, don't know how to help you there.  did you try ardour ?12:14
JackWinterand what does your .jackrc say ?12:14
ct529JackWinter: it was long time ago .... several weeks!12:15
ct529JackWinter: I still have the last one, did not remove it .... /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n212:16
JackWinterlooks ok afaik.  maybe because you are 64bit, or maybe because you run jack as root ?  did you edit /etc/security/limits.conf and add your user to the audio group ?12:18
ct529JackWinter: wait12:18
JackWinterin any case it can be done, just takes a lot of figuring out to get it going.  or take the easy way and install ubuntustudio 8.04 32bit12:19
ct529JackWinter: I tried with normal user as well12:19
ct529JackWinter: that is what I have running in the virtual machine .... but I like the challenge12:19
ct529JackWinter: I tried with normal user as well, not only with root12:20
JackWinteryeah, but the virtual machine won't work very well for audio and it's an emulated soundcard....12:20
ct529JackWinter: indeed ....12:23
ct529JackWinter: how do you switch off pulse audio?12:24
JackWinterthink i just removed all the packages that had to do with it.  but this was on 8.04...12:26
JackWinternow can anyone explain to me why adept is split in 2 in kubuntu 8.10 and what the logic behind that is ?12:27
ct529JackWinter: I have no idea ....12:27
ct529Tm_T: how do you switch off pulseaudio?12:28
Tm_Tct529: well, easiest way: remove all pulseaudio related stuff from /etc/xdg/autorun/ and ~/.config/autorun12:29
JackWinteri find it very confusing to have 2 places for adept and then never knowing where i have to go to find what i need...12:31
ct529Tm_T: well .... maybe not the esiest way .... just a wya where I can go back!12:32
Tm_Tct529: you can move those items too if you don't like removing12:32
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AndySpainhi!12:39
AndySpainam new to kubuntu. and wanted to have my computer donate soem computation time to science. There's BOINC and i installed the BOINC via Synaptic (in Adept I could not find it). But I freezes my computer.12:40
AndySpainAnd I cannot start kubuntu most of them times.12:40
AndySpainIs there no stable version out there?12:40
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carpiicheck its not being blocked by firewall maybe?12:41
AndySpainI have no firewall installed12:41
AndySpaini tried it on easys - slackware based - and it worked flawlessly.12:42
AndySpainBut easys had other issues, so I decided to give kubuntu i try12:42
AndySpainand here the boinc program also states that it may not work12:43
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carpiidoes it say why12:43
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ct529JackWinter: I do not like it either12:43
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Sky2k8hello12:44
Sky2k8i need helpf!12:44
AndySpainno, i says only it's still beta and might not work12:44
AndySpainfrom a live cd I can mount the easys partition and run its boinc from there. when i try the same from within kubuntu it says there is no boincmgr file but doing ls I see it there12:44
Sky2k8I've Xubuntu... and... i'm trying to install ATI-Drivers, but after restart i always get "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" etc.12:44
AndySpainit's not the most important task I wanna peroform on my system, but if there was a way to get it runnng it would be cool.12:45
AndySpainMaybe it's because it's 64 bit?12:45
ct529Tm_T: nothing in .config/autostart12:45
ct529Tm_T: plenty in /etc/xdg/autorun/12:45
Tm_Tct529: that's good, first means you are not infested by gnome12:46
Sky2k8no help? :/12:47
AndySpainAlso I thought that on Kubuntu Adept is the main package management tool. But most packages I do not fin in adept, whereas I do find them in synaptic (jre, tor, boinc, ...)12:47
AndySpainam i mistaken?12:47
Tm_Tct529: from latter, move away pulseaudio related items12:47
Sky2k8Darf man hier auch deutsch reden?12:49
jussi01!de12:49
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.12:49
ockonalhello all)12:49
Sky2k8thx12:49
jussi01Sky2k8: yw12:49
AndySpaintwo more things: 1 how can I have my computer sync its clock? I cklick on K-menu->Computer->Settings and click on Date and Time. There I enabled the sync thing, entered my pw and when I colose it and reopen it, it's disbaled again....12:50
AndySpainWhy is that?12:50
JackWinterAndySpain: i am also confused.  in kubuntu 8.04 i have all in adept.  in 8.10 it has been split up and there are 2 adepts, seems one for system stuff and one for applications.  very confusing (at least to me)...12:52
ct529Tm_T: how does a gnome infestation work? lot of small red hatted beings in you .config?12:52
AndySpainJackWinter: And where to find the other adept?12:52
ct529JackWinter: one is just for managing source I think .... I moved to synaptic .... :)12:53
AndySpainso using synaptic under kubuntu is fine?12:53
JackWinterone is under applications->add/remove software, and the other is under applications-system->package manager.12:53
SlimeyPeteAndySpain: it'll work fine, yeah12:54
AndySpain:-)12:54
AndySpainok12:54
JackWinterAndySpain: i don't know, since i've only played with 8.10, but it appears i have installed synaptic on my laptop.  probably out of frustration :)12:54
JackWinterAndySpain: just be careful of gnome infestation :))12:55
ct529ndySpain: fine for me, it works great12:55
ct529JackWinter: yes, it works very well for me too (synaptic)12:55
JackWinterok, bbl gotta see how a newer kernel works12:55
JackWinterbut before i leave.  anyone know whay adept was split up like this ?  must be a reason for it...12:56
AndySpainok, just tested:12:56
AndySpainthe add/remove adept showns me a hell of stuff when I enter "tor" (wthout ""), but no tor client at all12:57
AndySpainthe adept in programs->system  doesn not search anything at all. After entering 'tor' and hitting enter it simply does nothing12:57
Tm_Tct529: somehow just installing some particular gnome packages means that your KDE session then starts metacity amongst the other nasty ones12:58
AndySpainanyway, if synaptic works, I'll stick to that one. There I find everything I need12:58
bazhangapt-cache search tor in konsole12:58
AndySpainJackWinter: Good luck with the new kernel!  -11?12:58
AndySpainok, thx bazhang!12:59
DjFlyByseems everytime I try to install Kubuntu it installs fine, but upon reboot after the install it just goes to the grub screen. aNY IDEAS?13:00
JackWinterAndySpain: yes -11, any one know if it's easy to get a 2.6.28 kernel or do i have to compile it from sources myself ?13:00
AndySpainbut why does kubuntu not remember it when I choose it to automatically syn with pool.ntp.org?13:00
AndySpainI only have -1113:01
JackWinterok, bbl13:02
AndySpainsee ya, Jack13:02
ockonalHey, guys, which of u have kubuntu 9.10?13:03
Tm_Tockonal: there is no 9.10 yet13:03
robin0800_AndySpain: because you have to do sudo and it dosn't ask you can do kdesudo which will take but still won't be remembered13:03
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ockonalTm_T: heh, really? Kubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex13:05
dotkomwhat is a gud txt editor for kubuntu?13:05
jtismemy cursor inside X window is vertical bar elsewhere a red arrow tried changing it but remain vertical bar how can i make mouse cursor red arrow everywhere13:05
ockonaldotkom: Kate ;)13:05
AndySpainrobin0800: so how do I do it that it will be remmebered?13:05
DjFlyByseems everytime I try to install Kubuntu8.10 it installs fine, but upon reboot after the install it just goes to the grub screen. aNY IDEAS?13:05
Tm_Tockonal: most of us have 8.10 I believe, makes not much sense to ask that13:05
AndySpainit takes it already after asking for my pw. But it does not remember it13:05
ockonalTm_T: ok, can u give me your sources list?13:05
dotkomk, kwl.13:05
Tm_Tockonal: no, not really, as it would be worthless for you (:13:06
AndySpainrobin0800_: so how do I do it that it will be remmebered?  It already askes for my pw, but does not remember the setting13:06
ockonalTm_t: hm.. Can u give? Just give it :)13:06
Tm_Tockonal: no I don't, sorry son13:07
ockonalTm_T: ok :)13:07
Tm_Tockonal: but I believe the default one should be somewhere in the internets13:07
robin0800_AndySpain: best is run  kdesudo systemsettings but will not survive a reboot13:08
ockonalTm_T: ok, thanks13:08
AndySpainrobin0800_ so there is absolutely no way to have it permanently?13:09
AndySpainhmm, ok, thanks nontheless13:09
AndySpainrobin0800_ now i did it they way you said and after clickin on Apply I get an error message stating "error setting system date/time/time zone"13:11
* DjFlyBy wonders why his Kubuntu just goes to the "grub" after it completes the initial install onto the hdd. Does anyone know why this would be happening and what to do at this point?13:11
gfatherso kubuntu is the same as ubuntu with kde right13:22
gfatherbut not allot of stuff changed ?13:22
ockonalgfather: yeah13:24
JackWintermore or less that yes.  except i think the gnome uses pulseadio which still isn't really in kde13:24
gfatheri see ,13:25
kaddihola :)13:25
JackWinterand of course kde installs alot of different apps than gnome, but that is part of the difference :)13:25
gfatherwell i want to set a nice environment for java development and such13:25
gfatheryes , but somone told me that gnome apps can run on kde13:26
gfatherthough this will install allot of gnome stuff , will it effect kde ?13:26
kaddi!hi |kaddi13:28
ubottukaddi, please see my private message13:28
snuffmeisterhey13:28
kaddii'm note even allowed to say hello to myself? :(13:29
snuffmeisterneeded quick install help, anyone there?13:29
snuffmeisterwhat? lol13:29
kaddisnuffmeister : just joking ;)13:30
snuffmeister:P13:30
* DjFlyBy wonders why his Kubuntu just goes to the "grub" after it completes the initial install onto the hdd. Does anyone know why this would be happening and what to do at this point?13:30
JackWintergfather: i like kde, i also have some gnome apps installed.  some people say it's bad...  i don't know, but sometimes i have had some probs with kde, maybe because of gnome ??13:30
snuffmeisterwoah13:30
snuffmeisterDjFlyBy: that happened to me right now but i'm gonna try to make a clean install of it13:31
gfatherJackWinter hmm , well i dont want to set up everything , then the system go nuts couse i installed some gnome stuff13:31
DjFlyBysnuffmeister: this is my 4th attempt.... keeps happening every time13:31
snuffmeisteranyway, i'm on an ubuntu 8.04 live cd right now but i've got the jaunty kubuntu daily build downloaded, and nothing to burn it on =(13:32
BluesKajDjFlyBy , you have to choose your kernel wdition of kubuntu in grub to load the OS , usually the first in the grub menu list.13:32
BluesKajedition13:32
snuffmeisteris it possible to install from the image? as i'm on the live cd right now, and out of any hard disk installs, i thought it might work13:32
snuffmeisterotherwise i'll just have to install ubuntu and then upgrade everything13:33
JackWintergfather: i understand that :)  i think it works.  one problem i had was when my computer had crashed.  a gnome lock file coused a race condition.  the first time i reainstalled, the second time i fixed it.  now i have another problem with logging out hanging kdm, but that might as well have nothing to do with gnome...13:33
DjFlyByBluesKaj: how does one do that?13:33
gfatherJackWinter hmm13:33
BluesKajuse the tab key and then enter DjFlyBy13:34
JackWintergfather: i honestly don't think gnome has anything to do with it.  and for java you can surely do it in a pure kde system.  if you need some gnome apps you could even run ubuntu in a vbox and use them there...:)13:35
DjFlyByBluesKaj: all "Tab" does is bring up a list of possible commands13:35
gfatherJackWinter yes13:35
BluesKajDjFlyBy , do you still have the live cd in the drive ?13:36
DjFlyByBluesKaj: nope13:36
snuffmeisteruum, anyone?13:37
gfather<snuffmeister can you ask again13:37
snuffmeisteryea13:37
gfatheru have live cd ?13:37
snuffmeisterit's just13:37
snuffmeisteryes13:37
snuffmeisterright now, ubuntu 8.04 live dvd13:37
snuffmeisterthat's where i'm on13:38
gfatherwhy dont u install on high speed data stick13:38
BluesKajDjFlyBy , what does grub look like ..is it a list , like a menu ?13:38
snuffmeisterand i've downloaded the jaunty kubuntu daily build13:38
gfatherthen ull have ur ubunut13:38
snuffmeisteryeah, right now i don't have usb drives or blank dvd's :P13:38
DjFlyByBluesKaj:    the screen looks like so -->      grub>13:38
gfathersnuffmeistergo buy some13:38
snuffmeisteri was trying to wing it13:39
gfatherand hd are chep13:39
snuffmeisteri know, lol13:39
snuffmeisteri was just trying to know if it was possible13:39
gfatherinstall 2nd hd and put anythng u want on it m and boot with grib :)13:39
gfather<snuffmeister whats possible ?13:39
snuffmeisterlaptop, actually, 2nd hd would be complicated13:39
kaddiwould anyone advise against updating to jaunty now instead of april? i already have kde 4.2 running13:40
snuffmeisterif it was possible to install the jaunty kubuntu daily build from the ubuntu 8.04 live cd13:40
snuffmeisterconsidering i have the iso downloaded and on the windows hard drive13:40
kaddiare there any clashes between programs used in intrepid and the ones used in jaunty?13:40
gfathersnuffmeister u can install ubunut under windows13:40
DjFlyByBluesKaj:    the screen looks like so -->      grub>13:41
snuffmeisteri know, i did, but i had fedora 10 and deleted the partitions and now grub shows up empty13:41
snuffmeisterit's a bit fubar13:41
snuffmeisterbut i was just wondering13:41
gfather<snuffmeister> formate hd and start all again : )13:42
snuffmeisterforget it, thanks for the help13:42
gfather:D13:42
snuffmeisteryea, trying to avoid that ;P13:42
snuffmeisterlol13:42
gfather:)13:42
snuffmeisteri'll just install 8.04 and update it all13:42
gfatheryes13:42
snuffmeisterit'll be the same, i guess13:42
snuffmeisterproblem is extra packages13:42
snuffmeisterbut i've got the space for it13:42
ninodarkisin13:47
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DjFlyByBluesKaj:    the screen looks like so -->      grub>       but if I hit the Tab button it just gives me a list of possible commands to use inside of grub. commands like "background blocklist chainloader" etc...13:54
BluesKajDjFlyBy, so grub menu.lst wasn't installed , looks like you forgot to choose a bootloader when installing the OS13:56
DjFlyByBluesKaj: well, thats where the problem lies then I guess, as I did choose the bootloader13:59
BluesKajwhich bootloader did you choose grub otr LILO14:00
BluesKajor14:00
DjFlyByi chose grub14:02
alfioweeeeeeeee14:02
alfiociao a tutti14:02
Pici!it | alfio14:03
ubottualfio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)14:03
karis kde4 faster than 3.5.x as it is said to be? anyone have tryed?14:03
JontheEchidnaIt depends a lot on the hardware14:04
JontheEchidnawith some hardware/drivers it's faster than kde 3.5, but for other configurations it's a bit slower14:04
carpiii wouldnt install it if youre relying it on being faster14:04
carpiiin my experience it wasnt noticeably different tbh14:04
bob__well, as far as I know, kde 3.5 and kde 4, are very similar on the speed side14:04
JontheEchidnayeah, in my experience they are similar on the speed side14:05
JontheEchidnafor my hardware/driver configuration14:05
karanyway, are there in 4 a lot of tuning settings as in kde3? if there are i would try..14:05
kari just do not want all these visual fx14:06
carpiiask yourself why you want to upgrade to 4 then14:06
carpiipersonally i tried it, hated it, and reinstalled 3.514:06
carpiibut some people love it14:06
DjFlyByBluesKaj: I'm gonna try it one more time, but this will be my 5th attempt14:06
bob__I would say that you stick with 3.5 then, all I noticed on KDE 4  are visual effects and gadgets, 3.5 is by far more mature14:06
carpiiits not really considered a finished product though14:07
carpiiyup i agree14:07
karthat i also saw when i tried in summer an alpha edition14:07
bob__yes indeed14:07
carpiijust be aware that upgrading to 4.1 from repositories seems to remove 3.5 and it seemed almost impossible to undo this and bring back 3.514:07
kari just waited for "off-tuning" options14:07
BluesKajDjFlyBy, no point in trying again , sounds like you need to redownload and install anew DL , make sure you do an md5 sum on the iso.14:08
bob__I'm testing 4.2 at this moment and it seems to be a little more robust, compared to 4.114:08
karthank you all guys14:08
carpiiyeah 4.2 is apparently a lot more stable14:09
carpiii went to 4.1 from repo's, then up to 4.214:09
buckethead4.2 is much improved over 4.1.14:09
carpiibut i didnt like the whole concept of plasma's and the start menu just seemed retarded still14:09
bob__well, u got that right carpii14:10
bob__I'm considering to go back to Ubuntu thou14:10
bob__I mean, KDE 4 looks great and is running just fine, it's just.....too flashy :P14:11
carpiihehe yea14:12
carpiii like how linux people say vista is just eye candy crap14:12
bob__hahahahaha14:12
bob__yes14:12
carpiiand then they produce loads of kde skins called 'Vista' etc14:12
bob__exactly14:12
karjust to atract vista people maybe, but funny indeed14:13
bob__Vista is a good OS, I just don't like the idea that I can't tweak the thing the way I want14:13
DjFlyByBluesKaj: well this iso passed the MD5 check, I suppose I could re-dl the iso, but the dvd iso takes forever, lol14:14
BluesKajbob__ if you like vista then you'll like W7 even more14:14
carpiii think with vista they try to make it more usable for average joe, but it becomes less usable for techies14:14
carpiiand the whole paranoid security thing was just a complete usability failure anyway :p14:14
bob__right14:15
BluesKaj!windows | carpii and bob__ and if you want to discuss windows14:15
ubottucarpii and bob__ and if you want to discuss windows: For discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents14:15
carpiiok relax, were done i think14:15
bob__there u go, we have just been lectured :P14:15
carpii:p14:15
MarcoPauhello, I have intrepid and I can't mount the cd. I have sda as ata hd, sdb as ide hd. dmesg | grep sd doesn't show anything related to the cd drive14:16
bob__did you try to put a cd into the drive?14:17
MarcoPaubob__: of course. it won't automount14:17
bob__humm14:17
BluesKajcarpii , we're relaxed ..it's a friendly reminder14:17
bob__how come that I can't watch video cds on any media player under linux?14:18
MarcoPauI fear there's a mess due to ata and ide devices coexisting, that's why I'm hacking to clone some partitions and eliminate the ide drive14:18
carpiiok blues, np :)14:19
BluesKajDjFlyBy , then I suggest you reformat the partition or drive you intend to to use for linux ext3 with GParted14:20
BluesKaj!codecs | bob__14:22
ubottubob__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats14:22
bob__ok, I will keep my mouth shut, Video Cds can be played with VLC :P14:22
bob__thx BluesKaj14:22
ubuntu_gyhjgjhjhgkkjkck14:23
BluesKajbob__, there are some who prefer to use other players but I agree that VLC does a good job14:24
bob__indeed14:24
bob__I like (k)ubuntu, the community is awesome14:25
DjFlyByBluesKaj: hmmm I wonder if it could be soo simple.... I remember during the install it thinks my Primary Master hdd is actually sdb  when in fact shouldn't it be sda14:28
DjFlyByBluesKaj: so if that is the case then shouldn't grub actually be installed to (hd1) instead of (hd0) .. to ensure it gets installed to the Primary Master hdd ?14:29
JackWinteris there a way to install a 2.6.28 kernel on kubuntu 8.10 ?  from backports ?14:32
martinez--14:36
BluesKajDjFlyBy , do you have an old windows rescue partition on the HDD ?14:37
BluesKajDjFlyBy , if so then I'd resize to the same size as your RAM, and use it as the swap14:38
BluesKajDjFlyBy , unless of cours you want to dual boot windows and linux14:39
dedeciushallo alle zusammen14:39
JackWinter!kernel14:42
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages14:42
JackWinter!backports14:43
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging14:43
BluesKajJackWinter , what are you trying to do ?14:44
DjFlyByBluesKaj: nope the hdd is clean, nothing on it previously. there's 2 other drives in the box but they are storage drives14:44
JackWinteri'd like to try a 2.6.28 kernel without using the alpha14:45
JackWinterBluesKaj: or maybe better said i'd like to boot kubuntu 8.10 with a 2.6.28 kernel14:45
DjFlyByBluesKaj: however Kubuntu is seeing my drives as such -->  Primary Master = sdb :: Secondary Master = sda :: Secondary Slave = sdc14:48
JackWinterthink i'm gonna have to compile it myself...14:48
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BluesKajJackWinter , http://www.kernel.org/14:50
Pici!kernel14:51
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages14:51
BluesKajDjFlyBy, maybe you have the jumpers set incorrectly on one drive14:52
elizabethgoog morning guys i like to ask 4 ur help i am so new on this there is this friend that installed kubuntu on my compaq v3000 laptop everything was just fine but suddendly i gotno more wireless signal, is lost it use to have ir but since saturday i got nothing and i really dont know how to fix this and the biggest problem is that my friend is out of town can any1 helpme out pls to fix thisno wireless internet14:55
ct529elizabeth: is the wireless card switched on?15:00
elizabethyes and the ligth turn red it use to be blue15:00
DjFlyByBluesKaj: jumpers are correct15:01
ct529elizabeth: red .... is the wireless roter switched on?15:01
ct529elizabeth: router not roter15:01
elizabethyes it is switched on15:01
ct529elizabeth: are you logged in?15:02
elizabethno look my laptop has this little button to swith on or off the wireless connection15:02
AndySpaincan anybody help me setting up my wifi?15:02
ct529elizabeth: yes, but to test you must be logged on15:02
elizabethhow do i do that??15:02
ct529elizabeth: is the laptop on? have you entered your username and password?15:03
elizabethyes15:03
ct529ok .... open a konsole15:03
elizabethi am using it right now but i am using ethernet connection15:03
ct529elizabeth: ok .... open a konsole15:03
bob__Installing CoD4 at this very moment with the latest version of Wine, lets see how it goes :)15:03
elizabethok that i now is open15:03
giarcahow I can take the cpu at 100% for a test? I know there is a command using /dev/null or like.15:03
ct529elizabeth: write ifconfig then enter and pastebin the result15:04
BluesKajDjFlyBy , well something is amiss if you're primary drive is seen as sdb , not sda.15:04
giarcapheraps /dev/urandom in /dev/null...15:04
giarcadamn, I don't remember...15:04
elizabeththeres a lot of stuff should i just copy it and past it in here ct529?15:05
BluesKaj!paste15:05
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:05
ct529elizabeth: use pastebin, as I said15:05
BluesKajct529 , some newcomers don't know about pastebin15:06
ct529elizabeth: go here with your browser http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output15:06
elizabethhow do i do that ct529?? i amsorry but like i said i am so new and theres bunch of stuff i dont know is like another lenguage15:07
ct529elizabeth: go here with your browser http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output15:07
elizabethok let me do it15:07
ct529elizabeth: sorry, I am in a rush .... I have to go to offic ein few minutes, I would not be so pushy normally15:07
ct529elizabeth: done? there should be a wlan0 line ....15:09
elizabethhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/118857/15:09
elizabeththere thats what i got15:09
manneciao a tutti da manne15:10
BluesKaj!it | manne15:10
ubottumanne: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)15:10
elizabethbut c529 i dont c any line like that15:10
ct529elizabeth: it looks like you have 2 ethernet cards running .... that is weird15:10
ct529elizabeth: what do you see in network manager? there is a small icon in the bottom right corner of you screen15:11
ct529elizabeth: that looks like a network plug15:11
elizabethnot even that15:11
BluesKajor a globe15:11
ct529elizabeth: or a globe15:11
elizabethglobe is green15:12
ct529elizabeth: if you go on it with the mouse, and you hover, it should tell you which interfaces are connected15:12
ct529elizabeth: if you go on it, then click the right button of the mouse, it should let you configure the net15:12
elizabethit says eth0 and eth115:12
ct529elizabeth: both active?15:13
BluesKajelizabeth that means you have a dhcp(wired) connection15:13
elizabetheth1 active eth0 down15:13
ct529elizabeth: ok! that sounds more right ....15:13
kaddi!iso15:13
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:13
ct529elizabeth: now click on the right button of the mouse whilst you hover on the icon15:14
elizabethok the network right and what do i do?15:14
ct529elizabeth: chose "New connection" and then "eth0"15:14
elizabethok now theres this little window open15:15
ct529elizabeth: what does it say?15:15
elizabethnew connection15:15
elizabethlittle box that says use manual IP configuration15:15
ct529elizabeth: yes, enter new connection, and choose "eth0"15:15
elizabethand the rest is gray15:15
ct529elizabeth: that is strange15:16
elizabethok if i click on the use IP config15:16
ct529elizabeth: what do you see if you go on deactivate connection15:16
elizabetheverything turns black15:16
BluesKajct529, she has to disconnect the dhcp before her wireless option will be available15:16
elizabethand is asking me for ip address15:16
ct529BluesKaj: yes, I suppose15:16
elizabethnetmask, gateway dns addresses and dns search15:16
ct529BluesKaj: but I do not udnerstand why she has 2 interfaces, none of which is wireless15:17
OriporHi I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 and synaptic package manager isn't installed. How do I install it?15:17
BluesKajwell, I know this from my wifes' laptop15:17
elizabethif i deactivate it everything turns gray again15:17
ct529elizabeth: forget about it .... :)15:17
elizabethok15:17
BluesKajelizabeth , do you have a LAN or WAN connection option15:17
ct529BluesKaj: could you help him/her?  Ineed to go back to town!15:17
ct529BluesKaj: thanks!15:18
BluesKajok ct529 , have fun :)15:18
elizabethhey listen my friend toldme that u guys r very friendly and helpful so would u mind taking control over my laptop and c whats wrong pls can u do that pls???15:18
OriporWhy would I not have synaptic package manager available after a fresh install?15:18
elizabethi think i use lan15:18
elizabethi am not sure15:18
slhkOripor: sudo spt-get install synaptic15:19
Oriporthx15:19
slhkOripor: because in kubuntu the package manager is adept15:19
BluesKajelizabeth , no we don't take control of ppls machines , but we usually stick with the person to help them walk thru the issue 'til it's solved15:20
BluesKajok elizabeth . LAN it is , that will be your wireless connection to your router15:20
elizabethok my problem is that i have no wireless connection i use to but somehow it got lost and the indicator light in my laptop turned red it use to be blue15:20
BluesKajelizabeth , make sure your wireless is enabled on your router , maybe it got turned off somehow.15:22
kaddii'm playing with desktop effects in plasma. and right now i am playing with effects on selected/deselected windows.15:24
kaddii also use "activate window under cursor after 750ms"15:25
kaddithe effects for deselected windows are immediatly applied when i move the cursor away from a window, instead of deselcting the window at the same time a new window is selected15:26
kaddi(hope i'm getting through to anyone XD )15:26
kaddiis there a way to get the effects for deselected windows applied only after a certain amount of time15:26
kaddi(i do not think, that it is a problem with my graphiccard. if i select a window by mouseclick all effects are immediately applied correctly)15:27
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OriporHow do I get the 3D cube and desktop effects in Kubuntu 8.04?15:31
AndySpainhow do i make a screenshot in kubuntu?15:32
AndySpainon ubuntu there was an app for that15:33
carpiigraphics -> ksnapshot15:33
AndySpainah, ok15:33
AndySpainthank you carpii15:33
carpiinp15:33
AndySpainanother question: I started amarok and since it started it changed my panel15:33
carpiiin what way did it change your panel?15:34
AndySpainnow all the icons that used to be on the right are in the middle15:34
carpiiok the icons are sitting on a toolbar that can be moved15:34
carpiitry right clicking on a blank area near the icons, and choose unlock panels15:34
carpiithen you can reposition them, and lock them again if you want15:34
AndySpainand the cloco is not very much on the right margin anymore. Cannot movethem there as their defaultspaces have increased15:34
carpiiah it depends what version of kde youre using i guess15:35
AndySpaincarpii: right, but this repositioning has fixed spaces to position them, and they are too big now.15:35
AndySpainI did not change the kde version and before starting amarok it was ok15:35
carpiiyes, but im not familiar with kde 4.x really :p15:35
carpiiim only talking about kde 3.515:35
AndySpainI can reposition the icons in a way that their order changes, but the space respeverd by the clock if it's on the right, goes until the middle.15:36
OriporI just installed Kubuntu and it's supposed to have Desktop Special Effects built in. Where can I enable 3D Cube and other effects?15:36
carpiiAndy, i dont really understand :/15:36
AndySpainThus the other icons like active programs are in the middle or right of the clock, if i resposition them, and then the clock is in the middle15:36
kaddiwine just killed my xserver :D where would i look for clues as of why it did this15:36
AndySpainis there a place I can send you a screenshot?15:37
carpiitry imageshack.us15:37
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OriporHow can I find information about how to enable 3D Cube and other settings?15:39
carpii!compiz15:40
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion15:40
carpiithere15:40
AndySpaincarpii: http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto1qk8.png15:41
OriporI thought in the new Kubuntu / KDE you didn't have to use Compiz because the Desktop Special Effects were already "built in" upon install???15:41
carpiihm its not a very good article15:41
AndySpaincarpii: and after repositioning: http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto2ew8.png15:42
AndySpainas you see it does not look quite nice15:42
carpiiok youre using kde 4.x, i dont know how to fix that sorry15:42
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AndySpainand I _cannot_ change the spacing or absolute positions, only the relative positions. KDE 4.115:43
AndySpainah, ok15:43
carpiiok, you might like to upgrade to kde 4.215:43
AndySpainhow do i upgrade?15:43
carpii4.1 had lots of these sort of problems afaik15:43
AndySpainam new15:43
carpiisee url in topic15:43
AndySpain4.2 has not?15:43
AndySpainok15:43
AndySpainthank you15:43
carpiiwell i heard 4.2 fixes a lot of things15:44
slhkOripor: right click on the title bar of a window15:44
slhkOripor: and choose "configure windo behaviour"15:44
slhkOripor: in the desktop effects select the "all effects" tab15:45
OriporOk thanks, though I still don't see anything about a 3D Cube15:46
slhkOripor: it's called "desktop cube", in the "window management" section, I think that's what you look for15:47
Oriporslhk: Yea I just don't have an option for it. Maybe I need to get different Video Drivers installed or something.15:48
slhkOripor: actually it may have been introduced with kde4.2 and you may still not have it depending on which version you are running15:50
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somekoolis evolution the only mail client under linux start supports exchange ?15:57
carpiii think kmail does too15:58
carpiifor kde15:58
b_frankhi16:10
b_frankI have a video card,asus en6200le which can only use nv driver,with any nvidia driver screen is black.please help16:10
kaddihi, anyone got anno1701 to work on linux?16:11
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austinI'm trying to install songbird, tar.gz...i need some help with install16:13
ockonalaustin: what help?16:15
AndySpainwhat's the transparent thing on dekstop called?16:17
AndySpainIt has vanished16:17
AndySpainIf I new it's name, maybe I could add it again16:17
AndySpainkde 4.1.416:17
austinnvm16:17
AndySpainnvm is the name? or are talking about another topic?16:20
austinno, i mean nvm i don't need hlep,16:20
austinsorry for the confusion16:20
AndySpainhehe, ok16:20
AndySpainbut maybe you can tell me what the transparent window on the desktop is called16:21
AndySpainbecause mine just disappeared16:21
austinoh that?16:23
austinum, did it say like, "Desktop" in the corner?16:24
austinI beleave thats just a folder widget, gimi a sec lemmi look16:24
austinAndySpain: ok go the the top corner, click on unlcok widegets> then add widget16:25
austinAnyspain: scroll around untill you find a folder view widget, drag on drop onto your desktop16:25
AndySpainI don't remmeber what it said. I just installed kubuntu yesternight16:26
austinthen click the wrench icon next to it, which appears when you hover the cursor over the widget.  then point to your desktop folder16:26
AndySpainok16:26
AndySpainfolder view16:26
austinmhm16:26
carpiidoes anyone find their internet connection slows down after running ktorrent, even after its quit ?16:27
AndySpainaustin: cool, yea. that was it16:27
AndySpainthough it used to be empty, now it has my home folder16:27
AndySpainthank you austin16:27
austinAndySpane: click ont he wrench icon, and the little folder icon in the new window16:27
austingo to home/YOUUSERNAME/Deskto16:28
austin*desktop16:28
austinit will display your desktop contents then16:28
austincan anyone help me with a songbird install?16:39
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hoppel118Hallo16:48
hoppel118Was kann man hier machen?16:49
hoppel118bin das erste mal in so nem irc16:49
ockonal!de16:49
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.16:49
ockonal:)16:49
JackWinterhow do i get wine in my kmenu on 8.10 ?16:50
ockonalsudo apt-get install wine16:50
ockonalor u've already installed?16:50
JackWinterockonal: i did install it, but it doesn't appear in kmenu ?16:50
ockonalTry to reboot16:51
hoppel118i think restatin x is enough16:51
hoppel118strg + alt + backspace16:51
ockonalYeah16:52
hoppel118restarting X was ment16:52
vbgunzanyone use screen and vim? why doesn't home and end map to ^ and $ anymore? do I have to map them myself? they both seem to capitalize the next letter. why, how to fix?16:52
JackWinterockonal: i've even uninstalled 1.1.14, clean and purged, and then reinstalled 1.0.1...  ok i'll try to relogin...16:52
noaXessgrrr.. sometimes i can't write anything.. keyboard won't work on my notebook... i need to logout, restart X and login to KDE 4.2 then thekeyboard and all shortcuts are ok..16:52
noaXessany idea whats happend?16:52
ockonalnoaXess: after updating to kde 4.2?16:52
noaXessjep..16:53
ockonalnoeXess: ok, just try this:16:53
noaXesssometimes i can work days.. and today it happends twice16:53
noaXessockonal: have you the same problem?16:53
ockonalhoaXess: rm -r ~/.kde16:53
ockonalnoaXess: yes, i had this problem after updating kde 4.216:53
ockonalnoaXess: but save your data!16:54
noaXessockonal: and then.. i loose all my settings..16:54
ockonalnoaXess: yeah16:54
noaXessockonal: you work also on a notebook, laptop?16:54
ockonalnoaXess: sudo aptitude purge kwin && sudo install kwin16:54
noaXessockonal: hm.. thats a really strange solution..16:55
JackWinternope no wine in kmenu...16:55
noaXessockonal: is there no information what exactly happend, if keyboard won't work?..16:55
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vinci_How can i install koffice for kde4.2?16:58
JackWinteranyone here have wine installed in 8.10 ?16:58
rytmenpinnenHey, can you still update kubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04?16:58
hoppel118yes I16:59
noaXessJackWinter: i use crossover linux for that16:59
ockonalnoaXess: just kde-bug16:59
ockonalvinci_: sudo apt-get install koffice16:59
noaXessockonal: you mean place a bug :)16:59
ockonalnoxXess: :) Just do that16:59
hoppel118may be remove it first16:59
noaXess!info koffice | vinci_16:59
ubottukoffice (source: koffice): KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-6ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 19 kB, installed size 60 kB16:59
vinci_ockonal: but there is an error16:59
ockonalrytmenpinnen: yes, just add need repo16:59
hoppel118sudo apt-get remove wine16:59
rytmenpinnenneed repo?17:00
vinci_ubottu: I can't install koffice 1.6.317:00
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:00
JackWinterhoppel118: i've done that already...17:00
hoppel118and then reinstall with "sudo apt-get install wine" or use synaptic17:00
noaXessockonal: but my problem.... where can i find log entries where i can see what's happends if this occurs.. in /var/log/messages i can't find anything17:00
JackWinterhoppel118: ok, i'll try again...17:01
ockonalnoaXess: really, i can't remember. But i know, that almost all user have this bug after updating :)17:02
JackWinterhoppel118: didn't help...17:03
noaXessockonal: i had it also on kde4.1 update.. hm.. lot to do, if i delete .kde.. ok.. will be the last chance ;)17:04
JackWinternoaXess: don't know exactly what your problem is, but instead of deleting .kde you could set a different KDEHOME or create another user to login with.  no need to delete .kde when the problem is elsewhere...17:05
hoppel118sorry, i dont know, i have it running with kubuntu 8.10 and kde 4.2 without any probs17:05
carpiiat the very least you should move .kde to .kdeold rather than deleting it17:05
carpiiyou might regret it otherwise17:06
noaXessJackWinter: i see.. if i need to delete .kde, i will first backup it... i do that all night ;)17:06
noaXesscarpii: jep.. my words ;)17:06
carpii:)17:06
JackWinterhoppel118: and you get a wine menu in your kmenu ?17:06
hoppel118yes, i have17:06
hoppel118i have to go, bye, sorry17:06
noaXessok.. see ya all.. dinner time..17:07
JackWinternoaXess: for a quick check you can ctrl-alt-f1 to start a new virtual terminal.  set kdehome to something like .kde2  and then run startx -- :3  which will open a new session on ctrl-alt-f917:08
AndySpainwhat's the linux comamnd to move a directory with subrdirectories?  (not copy, but cut and paste)17:14
fosco__AndySpain, mv17:16
BluesKajAndySpain, sudo cp -r folder /dir/where/youwantit17:16
vinci_When i follow the guide on kubuntu, I installed KDE4.2, and koffice2.0 beta.17:16
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AndySpainfosco__ BluesKaj thx.   I deduce mv -r  ?17:17
AndySpainor don't i need -r for mv?17:17
vinci_but there is an error that koffice-data-kde4, cant cover the file from kde-icons-oxygen17:18
vinci_so how can i force install?17:18
BluesKajah AndySpain, yeah that should work17:18
freedom_danHi People, Has anybody here any experience with setting up a multiseat system (by this I mean, I want to be able to attach two keyboards and two mice & two monitors to the ONE PC, and have two people be able to use the one PC at the SAME time, each person would use one monitor, and have their own mouse and keyboard...)17:19
AndySpainthx17:20
freedom_danit seems to be very tricky to set up :/17:20
freedom_danespecially if you are new to Linux like me :)17:20
jtismemy mouse cursor is a vertical bar in x windows can change it any ideas17:22
jtismei want the arrow head as mouse cursor17:22
freedom_danif anybody is interested you can read a little about it here: http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/14-Multiseat-X-Under-X11R6.97.0.html17:23
freedom_danLOL, it does seem to hard to set up, that two users can use the one pc at the same time... almost impossible to find somebody who know how to do it... oh well...17:27
florian__Hallo, wie gehts?17:35
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florian__kennst sich jemand mit cups-pdf aus?17:36
Tm_T!de | florian__17:36
ubottuflorian__: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.17:36
florian__achso, danke (mein interface ist halt in deutsch, deshalb dachte ich...)17:37
AndySpainok with su I can change the user in termianl. but that onyl affects the terminal. Can I change the user and his/her priviledges for allt the login (KDE) without loggin out and in?17:40
AndySpainand how can I make kubuntu automatically mount sda1?17:44
ActionParsniphey guys, ktorrent 3.2 is totally worth getting17:52
ActionParsniphttp://debian.mirror.inra.fr/debian/pool/main/k/ktorrent/ some debs there17:53
Tm_Tofcourse, those packages doesn't have "ubuntu warranty" (;)17:54
ActionParsnipTm_T: ubuntu doesnt have a warranty either17:56
ActionParsnip:D17:56
Tm_TActionParsnip: I know, but you know what I meant17:56
ActionParsnipi do thats what makes it funny17:56
ActionParsnipi'd reccomnd it personally though17:58
ActionParsniptheres even a plasmoid that goes with it if you are into that17:59
Tm_TActionParsnip: aye (I got that stuff from svn)17:59
dotkom_Hi Peeps. I am running 8.10 KDE 4.2 & compiz but i cannot set more than 2 desktops? Any1 help?18:01
ActionParsnipdotkom_: in nccsm search for desktop18:03
ActionParsnipccsm*18:03
AndySpainon a multiuser sytem: can I  grant internet access for other users but prevent them from installing software, even adobe flash or things the like?18:03
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AndySpainand prevent them from accesssing other user's directories?18:03
ActionParsnipAndySpain: if they arent part of the admin group they cant do stuff with gk/sudo18:04
AndySpainactually they should only have acces to their own home directory18:04
AndySpainok, but for installing adobe flashplayer do you need sudo??18:04
chris-rc1hi18:05
chris-rc1can anybody receive files from a bluetooth device via kbluetooth??18:05
dotkom_nope i have tried18:06
ActionParsnipdotkom_: in general, desktop size, change to 4 instead of 218:06
ActionParsnipAndySpain: for installing anything you ned sudo. Set it all up as the sudo account and then view it as the normal user18:07
ActionParsnipchris-rc1: I've recieved but not sent18:07
spud-hello18:08
spud-someone who can help me with dd?18:08
ActionParsnipspud-: can you be specific18:09
chris-rc1ActionParsnip: you can receive files from a phone?18:09
ActionParsnipchris-rc1: yeah, thats what i use it for18:09
spud-the dd-command, when low-level copying18:09
chris-rc1ActionParsnip: how do you do that? i can only send files to my phone18:10
ActionParsnipchris-rc1: make sure the kbluetooth says discoverble, you may also want to review the conf file to say discoverable too18:11
ActionParsnipchris-rc1: its really REALLY flakey18:11
ActionParsnipchris-rc1: bit hit and miss at best18:11
AndySpainActionParsnip:  I just tried: user cannot write except in his home dir. BUT he can read the other home directories.18:12
AndySpainCan't i prevent that?18:12
ActionParsnipAndySpain: then: sudo chown -R <username> /home/<username>; sudo chmod -R 755 /home/<username>18:13
spud-ActionParsnip: I have done a dd low level copy on my hard drive. After finished I don't get in to work in my other computer. What can I have done wrong?18:13
ActionParsnipAndySpain: that will transfer the folder to the restricted user. You will have to be the sudo account18:13
ActionParsnipspud-: if you dd from drive to drive you may not have written grub over18:14
ActionParsnip!grub | spud-18:14
ubottuspud-: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:14
AndySpainActionParsnip: sudo chown -R restricteduser /home/restricteduser; sudo chmod -R 755 /home/restricteduser   - this makes that restricted user cannot have read access to other user's home directories?18:15
spud-ActionParsnip: I only have a live boot cd (it's at my work)18:15
ActionParsnipspud-: im guessing by "doesnt work" you mean "doesnt boot"18:15
fidjipour le français c'est pas compliqué dans synaptic tape le mot clef language18:15
Tm_T!fr | fidji18:15
ubottufidji: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr18:15
spud-ActionParsnip: It doesn't happen anything, it doesn't even try to boot18:16
ActionParsnipAndySpain: no, it means it will have full access to the folder and subfolders from /home/restricteduser18:16
fidjiTm_T:  sorry, it's a mistake18:16
ActionParsnipAndySpain: if you use sudo chmod -R 700 then no other user will have access to the folder except the owner18:17
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AndySpainActionParsnip: But he already has access to his own directory. But also has read acceess to other user's home. And that's what I want him NOT to have.18:17
AndySpainhe's only in his private group18:17
ActionParsnipspud-: make sure bios is pointing to it and make sure grub is installed18:17
AndySpainah, ok. ActionParsnip: So I must apply chmod -R 700 to all other home directories?18:18
spud-ActionParsnip: Bios is ok, but I don't understand what grub is? It's a windows system i'm trying to low level copy18:18
ActionParsnipAndySpain: you need to run 700 on all the home folder you dont want anyone else to access to18:18
AndySpainthank you, ActionParsnip18:18
AndySpain:-)18:19
ActionParsnipAndySpain: first number is owner, 2nd is eveyone in the same groups, 3rd is everyone else18:19
ActionParsnipAndySpain: check out chmod + chown in detail and you can restrict / allow access18:19
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ActionParsnipspud-: then you will need to install the windows bootloader as it wont have been copied18:21
spud-ActionParsnip: Don't have been copied? Do you know how to copy this?18:22
ActionParsnipspud-: i dont know how, ask in ##windows, the xp cd can be used to write a new boot sector18:22
spud-ok thank you ActionParsnip18:25
ActionParsnipis there a way to install firefox without the branding package + tonne of gnome stuff18:32
AndySpainCan i take certain programs out of the Kmenu for other users?18:33
AndySpaineg: If someone tells me he will only work with it and not chat, can I quit kopete from his kmenu, without globally uninstalling it?18:33
elizabethhi guys my name is Elizabeth, i have a friendthat installed on my laptop compaq presario v3000 a system kubuntu intrepid he said, everything was nice, but since saturday somehow i lost connection to internet by wireless, i really need it, he told me that u guys r friendly and helpful, can somebody help me out to fix itpls i am so new on this, he is out of town so i dont know how to get back my wireless connection pls somebody18:35
elizabethhelp??????????????'18:35
ActionParsnipAndySpain: not sure on that one dude, Im not usre how the menu is managed18:35
ActionParsnipelizabeth: if you run lspci and lsusb you can see what wifi it is and websearch from there18:36
AndySpainyou have already been a lot of help, ActionParsnip. Thank you18:36
elizabethhi guys my name is Elizabeth, i have a friendthat installed on my laptop compaq presario v3000 a system kubuntu intrepid he said, everything was nice, but since saturday somehow i lost connection to internet by wireless, i really need it, he told me that u guys r friendly and helpful, can somebody help me out to fix itpls i am so new on this, he is out of town so i dont know how to get back my wireless connection pls somebody18:36
elizabethhelp??????????????'' sorry but this is a lenaguage i really dont know18:36
elizabethwhat dou mean with run??18:37
ActionParsnipelizabeth: in konsole18:38
elizabethok18:38
AndySpainThe reason I'm asking is that I have a laptop and my room mate ALWAYS wants to use it. But I'm kinda against that. But if she needs it, ok. I give it to her. But I don't want her to see my personal files or have the laptop runnung all night for chatting or watching stupid manga videos online for hours....  (therefore, the kopete question, the adobe flashplayer question, etc.)18:38
ActionParsnipelizabeth: one line will identify the device18:38
infocentrofala cambada18:38
elizabeththere is nothing saying wifi18:40
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ActionParsnipelizabeth: look for words like 802.11 / broadco etc18:41
ActionParsnip*broadcom18:41
elizabethno such words ActionParsnip18:41
gfatherhello guys18:42
gfatherjust installed a kubuntu18:42
ActionParsnipelizabeth: is it an internal device or usb?18:42
elizabethinternal18:42
gfatherhow to activate the 3d effect18:42
ActionParsnipelizabeth: ok then lspci will show the device18:42
ActionParsnipgfather: have you installed video card drivers?18:43
gfatherActionParsnip not yet18:43
krioxthere is a channell for samba?18:43
kriox! samba18:44
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.18:44
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elizabethActionParsnip not even with that18:44
ActionParsnipgfather: lspci | grep -i vga18:44
elizabethi dont c those words18:44
ActionParsnipelizabeth: then its not enabled / turned on18:44
avihaybI connected a digital camera to my computer, it's one of those cameras that dosen't look like a mass storage device. I configured it in the control pannle camera thingy. now what?18:44
gfatherActionParsnip do i do that , or install the ati driver18:45
ActionParsnipgfather: run that command the read18:45
ActionParsnip!ati | gfather18:46
gfatheroks18:46
ubottugfather: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:46
ActionParsnipavihayb: does it show up in digikam ?18:46
avihaybI guess i need to istall digikam then18:46
elizabethit is turn on look my laptop compaq presario v3000 has 1 yr old it has this button with a light indicator it use to be blue with windos, when my friend put this new system it was the same but i dont know what happen last saturday i turned on my laptop and the indicator button is red since then18:47
gfatherActionParsnip it shows 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300(PCIE)]18:47
elizabethand i got no wireless connection18:47
ActionParsnipgfather: cool, check the link ubottu gave18:48
ActionParsnipelizabeth: if its not showing up in lspci its not turned on, what make / model lapto pis it18:50
elizabethcompaq presario V300018:51
elizabethand it is turn on18:51
elizabeththat is forsure18:51
ngranekis there a way to make the KDE 4.2 virtual desktop not wrap around? i mean, if i'm in the leftmost desktop and press the rotate left keyboard shortcut, i want the desktop to ignore it and stay in that desktop, instead of wrapping to the rightmost desktop18:53
ActionParsnipelizabeth: looks like it has a broadcom wifi18:53
ActionParsnipelizabeth: do younot see BCM43xx18:53
ActionParsnipelizabeth: or Broadcom18:53
elizabethand it is turn on'18:53
elizabethu mean on konsole?18:54
ActionParsnipelizabeth: Broadcom BCM4311 KFB18:54
ActionParsnipelizabeth: yes in konsole18:54
elizabethnop dont c that on konsole18:54
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ActionParsnipelizabeth: try switching the wifi off and on with the switch18:57
elizabethdone but still red light18:58
ActionParsnipelizabeth: ok then read: dmesg | tail19:00
elizabethno broadcom or wifi words either19:02
ActionParsnipelizabeth: does it say that the adapter was brought up ok19:02
avihaybActionParsnip: ok, it works with digikam. thanks. but it forced me to downgrade to libkipi. any solution for that?19:03
ActionParsnipelizabeth: i'd reboot and read dmesg all the way through19:03
ActionParsnipavihayb: i dont use it but i guess there'll be a guide some place19:03
avihaybnot wwaht I asked19:04
avihaybwhat19:04
elizabethand it is turn on:19:04
elizabethelizabeth@Elizabeth:~$ dmesg | tail19:04
elizabeth[   28.369814] Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.619:04
elizabeth[   28.369820] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized19:04
elizabeth[   29.000072] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -95354447 ns)19:04
elizabeth[   30.902883] NVRM : nv_acpi_nvif_method : NVIF data invalid. function d subFunction 019:04
elizabeth[   32.862226] eth0: no link during initialization.19:04
elizabeth[   32.986527] NET: Registered protocol family 1719:04
elizabeth[   37.718241] NET: Registered protocol family 1019:04
elizabeth[   37.722328] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions19:04
elizabeth[   37.724822] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready19:04
elizabeth[   48.136049] eth1: no IPv6 routers present19:04
elizabethelizabeth@Elizabeth:~$19:04
elizabethActionParsnip there is what it says19:05
ActionParsnipelizabeth: use pastebin for large pastes so you dont scroll the screen19:05
ActionParsnipelizabeth: if you reboot then run: dmesg | less19:06
ActionParsnipelizabeth: then you can watch your devices come up19:06
elizabethok lets reboot and let u know19:08
elizabeththx19:08
altrortlahello............. what is this ? I'm trying to access at smb.conf .... and this is what i got...19:08
altrortla>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 1 <<<19:08
ActionParsnipaltrortla: what command did you run to get the error?19:09
olewolfaltrortla: that's possibly rather bad. Do you see the contents of the sudoers file if you type "sudo cat /etc/sudoers" (followed by your password when prompted)?19:09
altrortlamoreover if i try to access at system >>> setting .... when i need to have amministrative privileges , noting appens19:09
altrortlai have done ... suodo vim smb.conf19:10
altrortlasudo19:10
olewolfaltrortla: never mind the smb.conf file for now; it looks like your sudoers file might be broken, which is pretty bad.19:10
altrortlasudo cat /etc/sudoers19:11
altrortla>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 1 <<<19:11
altrortlaAZZ19:11
altrortlawhat should i do?19:11
olewolfaltrortla: ouch. You'll probably need to boot from a rescue CD and repair the sudoers file. And, that's hoping it's just the sudoers file that is broken.19:12
ActionParsnipaltrortla: try: kdesudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf19:12
olewolfActionParsnip: if the sudoers file is broken, that won't work either.19:12
altrortlakdesudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf19:13
altrortla>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 1 <<<19:13
altrortlasudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 119:13
altrortlaok from cd .... what should i do?19:13
ActionParsnipaltrortla: http://pastebin.com/f263dedc619:14
olewolfWell, er... if you don't know, then it might be a little complicated. You'll have to somehow edit the sudoers file and replace the contents with the pastebin contents that ActionParsnip showed you.19:15
olewolfDo you have any idea what happened to break the sudoers file?19:15
altrortlano19:15
olewolfIt's just that this file is better protected than most files, requiring "440" permissions.19:16
ActionParsnipaltrortla: you could write my pastebin to your hdd, boot to recovery rot console and copy it across19:16
olewolfIf this file got broken, God know what else was broken.19:16
ActionParsnipolewolf: i'm good at work arounds19:16
olewolfaltrortla: just remember to chmod the sudoers file to 440 if you follow ActionParsnip's advice.19:17
altrortlaso i had to use not sudo19:17
PiciOr use visudo19:17
ActionParsnipaltrortla: save mine in your home dir then make a backup of the broken one and move mine in its place19:17
altrortlabut root console19:17
olewolfaltrortla: if you can get to a root console, then you'll be able to fix the file. It's just that getting there from your current terminal requires the sudoers file to be valid, so it's a catch-22.19:17
elizabethActionParsnip here is what i got and the cursor on konsole is on stand by is weird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118913/19:18
cuddlescupcake:)19:18
ActionParsnipolewolf: -r--r----- 1 root root 496 2009-01-31 13:32 ./sudoers19:18
altrortlai can't got a root console...19:18
altrortlaazz19:18
ActionParsnipaltrortla: you can, you reboot and press esc when grub shows up, then select recovery for your kernel, then select root console19:19
olewolfActionParsnip: well, that's what it should look like under /etc/sudoers. So altrortla needs to chmod it to writeable, then copy the basebin thing to the sudoers file, and then chmod 440 the file.19:20
ActionParsnipolewolf: just showing the permissions I have on my working file19:20
olewolfRight, moving that file to /etc/sudoers would work, too.19:20
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ActionParsnipgoody, another one logging on as root :(19:22
gfatherjust installed graphic card drivers19:22
gfatherActionParsnip now what should i do19:22
altrortlaone moment.... so i copy with kate your config...19:22
ActionParsnipgfather: ok and you configured xorg.conf and all that malarky?19:23
ActionParsnipaltrortla: use any text editor to create a new file with my config19:23
altrortlathen simply copy that file in sudoers19:23
altrortla?19:23
elizabethso did u saw ActionParsnip what i got after typing on konsole what u told mt to?19:23
ActionParsnipaltrortla: you can then copy the data over19:23
jtismemy mouse pointer is a vertical bar cannot change it any ideas19:23
gfatherActionParsnip i think so19:24
ActionParsnipelizabeth: dmesg | less19:24
ActionParsnipgfather: try: glxinfo | grep -i direct19:24
ActionParsnipgfather: do you have direct rendering?19:24
gfatherdirect rendering: Yes19:24
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ActionParsnipgfather: great19:25
giuseppeciao19:25
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gfather:)19:25
ActionParsnipgfather: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager19:25
nemeshi19:25
elizabethyes and the cursor on konsole still is freeze this is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118913/19:25
Guest32739ragazzi ho installato goggle earth ma si chiude subito appena lo apre19:26
nemesexcuse me im absolutly new here and at least totally lost can someone help me? (speaking french may be appreciated) :/19:26
altrortlalooking in sudoers file there's write nothing19:26
ActionParsnip!fr | nemes19:26
ubottunemes: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:26
nemesty19:26
gfatherActionParsnip done :)19:27
ActionParsnipaltrortla: you need to create a new file anywhere on your system, then boot to the recovery root console and copy it in (after renaming the original)19:27
ActionParsnipaltrortla: its that simple19:27
ActionParsnipgfather: ok then run: compiz --replace &19:27
ActionParsnipgfather: if yu have 3d rendering successfully setup it wil work19:27
ActionParsnipgfather: after you run the command hold ctrl + at and drag the cube round with mouse button 119:29
ActionParsnipat == alt*19:29
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elizabethActionParsnip what does what u told me to type suppose to do cause the cursor on konsole does nothing is just there19:29
altrortlaActionParsnip: ok ... If i need of some tips i'll follow you as Amerigo19:29
amerigoehilà19:30
gfatherActionParsnip didnt work19:30
amerigoAction19:30
gfather:S19:30
amerigoFor what i have to understand .... broken sudoers my be broken sever files...19:31
amerigoi had to reinstall all the system to be sure that a haven't others error?19:33
ActionParsnipgfather: then your video drivers arent right19:34
gfather:(19:34
gfatherhow can i disable it19:34
gfatherteh system got slower19:34
gfatherallot19:34
ActionParsnipgfather: metacity --replace &19:34
altrortlaActionParsnip: I had to cange permission on sudoers file and i dunno how to do ...19:36
mefisto__on topic: http://www.go2linux.org/pics/single_pictures/sandwich.png19:37
ActionParsnipaltrortla: chown <user to be the owner> /etc/sudoers (or whatever its called)19:37
altrortlano root console is abled in recover mode19:37
ActionParsnipaltrortla: its in the menu that pops up once you select recovery mode for your kernel19:38
AndySpainActionParship: Can you help me to set up my wifi as well?19:38
AndySpainI'm on a hp pavilion laptop19:38
altrortlai'mvery confused... sorry19:38
neelhi19:38
_Coxhello19:44
_Coxanyone willing to help?19:44
martinezHI people19:45
martinezwere you from19:46
_Coxcroatia19:46
mefisto___Cox: ask a question, if any can help they probably will19:47
_Coxthx19:47
_Coxok, i just installed kubuntu today19:47
_Coxthere is sound, but not in amarok19:47
altrortlaActionParsnip:19:48
altrortlaActionParsnip:19:48
altrortlasudo vim smb.conf19:48
altrortlasudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 044019:48
altrortlaazz19:48
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olewolfaltrortla: then retry the boot-to-root and chmod it to 440.19:49
_Coxwait :D i m linux noob19:49
olewolfaltrortla: can you guess why I said remember to chmod it to 440? :)19:49
altrortlaolewolf: I don't know how19:50
altrortlaazz19:50
altrortlait is out of my range19:50
olewolfaltrortla: well, you managed to boot to a root console, didn't you? Just do exactly as before, but instead of copying the file, "chmod 440 /etc/sudoers".19:51
altrortlachmod 440 /etc/sudoers ... this string?19:51
altrortlaonly?19:51
olewolfYes. Assuming the /etc/sudoers file is fixed.19:52
altrortlaok19:52
_Coxguys... u sayin that to me or what? :D19:52
ActionParsnip_Cox: only if you are addressed like this19:52
olewolfaltrortla: the sudoers file is a rather hefty security issue. If it's writable by anyone but root, or even by root itself, then... oh, he left.19:52
nemezeroexcuse me, can someone "send" me to the french speaking chan... i dont know how does it work19:53
ActionParsnip!sound | _Cox19:54
ubottu_Cox: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:54
ActionParsnip!fr | nemezero19:54
ubottunemezero: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:54
nemezeroty19:54
nemezero!fr19:54
nemezero!fr|19:54
mefisto__arts has been abandoned in favour of phonon, hasn't it?19:54
ActionParsnipnemezero: try /j #ubuntu-fr19:55
ActionParsnip!phonon19:55
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about phonon19:55
_Coxok thx ubottu19:55
ActionParsnip!info phono19:55
ubottuPackage phono does not exist in intrepid19:55
nemezeroty19:55
mefisto__!info phonon19:56
ubottuphonon (source: phonon): metapackage for Phonon multimedia framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 6 kB, installed size 76 kB19:56
ActionParsnipPhonon is the Qt4 multimedia API, which provides a task-oriented abstraction layer for capturing, mixing, processing, and playing audio and video content.19:56
ActionParsnipaltrortla: any better?19:58
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altrortlacoping tours sudoers file it seems to works fine...19:59
altrortlaActionParsnip:19:59
altrortlaActionParsnip: coping tours sudoers file it seems to works fine...19:59
mefisto___Cox: what sound works? in a different player?20:00
altrortlaActionParsnip: but this is the bakup file ....http://paste.ubuntu.com/118920/20:00
altrortlaActionParsnip: samba get the controll?20:01
ActionParsnipaltrortla: the first line isnt needed. which is probably what was causing the issue20:02
altrortlaI had to remake all configuration for my LAN.... next time20:03
altrortlaActionParsnip: thank you for support20:03
altrortlaolewolf:  thank you for support20:03
altrortlasee you20:04
ActionParsnipaltrortla: np man, its all learning20:04
_Coxno20:04
_Coxits not working in firefox too20:04
_Cox:S20:04
olewolfaltrortla: so you managed to get it to work?20:05
AndySpaini can't find sun's java for installation in synaptic20:06
AndySpainwhat's the package's name?20:07
ActionParsnipAndySpain: apt-cache search java | grep sun20:07
ActionParsnipAndySpain: if you are running 64bit, i'd recommend icedtea20:08
olewolfActionParsnip: well, 64-bit java *is* available now.20:08
olewolfFrom Sun, that is.20:08
AndySpainActionParsnip: Humm, the devs of i2p just recommended me to use sun's as I had gij and it has worse performance.20:08
AndySpainso icedtea is better?20:09
AndySpainI'm on 64bit pc, yes20:09
altrortlaolewolf: yes olewolf , thanks to you20:09
altrortlabye20:09
altrortlasee you next time20:09
olewolfaltrortla: you probably need to thank ActionParsnip. .)20:09
olewolfAndySpain: Sun's version has certain security features that aren't available in Icedtea AFAIK.20:10
AndySpainActionParsnip: apt-cache search java | grep icedted  only gives me two plugins...20:10
ActionParsnipAndySpain: you could run it through nspluginwrapper20:10
AndySpainolewolf: but is sun's version fully open source?20:10
olewolfAndySpain: hardly.20:11
AndySpainwhat is nspluginwarppaer?20:11
AndySpainwrapper20:11
ActionParsnipAndySpain: lets you run 32bit plugins on 64bit systems20:11
AndySpainthere's no easy way to do that?20:12
ActionParsnipAndySpain: sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper20:13
ActionParsnipAndySpain: then you need to find the .so file for java and nspluginwrapper -i <file>20:13
AndySpainok20:14
ActionParsnipits not hugely graceful20:14
AndySpaini just tried sudo apt-cache search java | grep sun20:14
AndySpainall i get is: sunflow - rendering system for photo-realistic image synthesis20:15
ActionParsnipAndySpain: try without the grep20:16
ActionParsniphttp://dafizilla.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/java-plugin-with-prism-under-ubuntu-64-bit/20:18
szrhawaiiIm having an issue with my applications setting above my desktop does anyone know how to switch them so they stop doing it cause its getting annoying20:18
szrhawaiiits only my system settings and dolphin file manager so far20:21
szrhawaiianyone know how to solve that20:21
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dotkom_Hi peeps. When I fullscreen a video the panel at the bottom of the screen stays above?20:26
AndySpainActionParsnip: thanks for the link.  I will first try with icedtea, maybe it works better than gij. if not, I'll wrap sun's. but as it's not fully open source, i prefer trying tea20:30
ockonalhello guys)20:32
AndySpaincan anbody help me set up my wifi?20:45
AndySpainI'm on a HP Pavilion Notebook20:46
AndySpainjust installed kubuntu yesterday20:47
ulysses__AndySpain: lspci | grep Ethernet20:48
ulysses__then press Alt+F2, and type "konsole", then press 'Enter'20:49
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ulysses__after then type in the konsole 'lspci | grep Ethernet'20:49
AndySpainulysses__ sorry, was on the phone20:52
AndySpainlspci | grep Ethernet20:52
AndySpainbrings no output20:52
AndySpainah20:52
AndySpainsorry20:53
AndySpainhad ethernet instead of Ethernet20:53
AndySpain08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)20:53
AndySpain09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)20:53
ulysses__i have this:20:53
ulysses__08:04.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)20:53
ulysses__it works with the restricted driver, which is activated in the systems default on my laptop20:54
AndySpainwhere to activate it?20:54
ulysses__K Menu->Applications->System->Hardware20:55
ulysses__My language is hungarian, so i don't know the english exactly20:56
AndySpainhere it says hardware drivers20:56
AndySpainmine is German20:56
AndySpainbut it's empty20:56
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AfterDeathdoes Kubuntu 8.10 use KDE 3 or KDE 4?20:57
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AndySpainKDE420:57
ulysses__KDE 4.1.4 is the latest20:57
AfterDeathokay, thanks20:58
AndySpaina friend of mine has the same laptop as i have, but he's far away20:58
AndySpainhe told me I had to get a driver from madwifi20:58
marek_hi, isthere a way to synchronize kontact with syncML?21:01
athlon1compiz-fusion: When I press ctrl-alt-button1, my cube doesn't rotate and mouse stay locked until I relase. Can any tell me why?21:03
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athlon1I can't belive it. I works now ... after 3 days not...21:04
bsmathlon1: maybe you added some workspaces? ;)21:04
boese_ola21:05
boese_como estas21:05
athlon1thanks bsm. Now it works... I don't know why. I've added nothing, i think...21:06
athlon1What do you mean with workspaces?21:06
bsmvirtual desktops?21:06
bsmits not important as it works21:06
athlon1bsm: one question. Every time i open my computers, some applications open. And I want to put them on different desktops automatically (instead of moving them). What plugin do I have to use? Thanks.21:08
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bsmathlon1: are you using ccsm? its the program where you configure all compiz plugins21:09
federicoscivoletciao21:09
bsmmaybe you can configure the Place plugin to put your application on the viewports21:09
athlon1Yes, but there are many plugins and I don't know wich one I have to use....21:10
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Jonathan__bhola; acabo de entrar a este programa (konversation)... alguien puede decirme dónde puedo obtener salas de chat?21:12
athlon1OK, Now I see it. I'm going to try. Thanks....21:12
bsmathlon1: its called _Place_21:12
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athlon1Yes, I see it and the posibility of specify a viewport. I suppose that Xview Viewport Position is the number of viewport. I'll try...21:14
mefisto__AndySpain: try enabling backports (kdesudo software-properties-kde  in the "updates" tab) then look in the hardware drivers again to see if it's there21:19
athlon1bsm: It works fine!!!! Thanks21:20
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bsmincredible. kde 4.2 no longer dies with twinview21:34
bsmanyone knows when full support will be available? setting background image etc?21:35
switchhi guys, I'm having trouble with my webcam and kopete21:40
switchcan anyone help me?21:40
marek_hi is there a way to synchronize kontact and kopete?21:41
bsmswitch: ask your question and maybe someone answers21:41
Ren_Saiyuri*sigh* I guess I can ask then. Is there anyone familiar with Acer monitors? I'm trying to dual-display from my laptop to an Acer X223W 22" monitor. The monitor will display just fine, but either loses signal or cuts the feed roughly every 5-10 seconds? Problem with my graphic card compatibility?21:43
PSiL0!firefox21:45
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins21:45
switchMy webcam works perfectly, but when I click on 'send webcam' in kopete it doesn't do anything. I'm using the MSN protocol21:45
mefisto__switch: don't know much about it, but maybe you need to open the port kopete uses for webcam in your router?21:48
switchdone that already21:48
switchmefisto__: done that already21:48
ren_Hmm... out of curiousity did anyone see my question before I dc'd?21:51
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switchno, ren_21:51
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Angelus_DelapsusQuestion: Is there anyone familar with hardware compatibility via Kubuntu? I have an Acer X223W 22" monitor I'm trying to use for a dual display with a laptop. It will display for roughly 5-10 seconds before cutting out to a black screen then coming back about 2-8 seconds after that.21:53
Angelus_DelapsusThen repeats the whole cycle until I unplug it.21:54
slow-motionhi21:58
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cuzntih22:11
bucketheadWhat is a good app to triple overwrite a surplus hard drive?22:11
cuzntwhat is triple over write?22:11
bucketheadReplacing all the data on the hard drive three times.. Supposedly removes any chance of recovery.22:12
Angelus_Delapsusbucket: A shredder program22:14
Angelus_DelapsusCompletely destroys any trace of data both within the deep-embedded storage areas and the open primary.22:14
Angelus_DelapsusUnfortunately I don't know of any for Linux22:14
przemHello How can I change my tmp dir from /tmp to for instance /usr/tmp ( I got message "there's not enough room on the /tmp ... " ) ?22:14
mefisto__buckethead: try shred: sudo apt-get install shred22:15
buckethead'shred' haha, thats easy. Yeah, I've got .win ones but didn't want to mess with it. Thanks.22:15
mefisto__!info shred22:15
ubottuPackage shred does not exist in intrepid22:16
Angelus_DelapsusE: Couldn't find package shred22:16
mefisto__maybe shred is already installed? try man shred22:17
Angelus_DelapsusOverwrite to hide.22:17
Angelus_DelapsusNot destry22:17
Angelus_Delapsus*destroy22:17
Angelus_DelapsusWhich I believe is his intention via a 'triple overwrite'22:17
Angelus_DelapsusBut there is the option.22:17
mefisto__Angelus_Delapsus: it can remove too22:18
* Angelus_Delapsus nods. I just noticed that. The rest of the line got cut by the smaller window22:18
Angelus_Delapsusshred -22:18
bucketheadTriple overwrite is apparently the industry standard for a drive to be considered 'clean' of any sensitive data.22:18
mefisto__a sledgehammer is also very effective :)22:19
Angelus_DelapsusHmm.. I haven't heard much about it honestly. We always just refer to it as a 'clean-sweep'22:19
bucketheadmefisto__: I've got 20 of them. I wouldn't make making a small revenue off them. A little window dressing for the budget..22:20
bucketheadOtherwise, Perhaps my SKS..22:20
Angelus_DelapsusIs it permitted to suggest freeware sites?22:20
Angelus_DelapsusCause from those I could probably suggest several shred programs outside of the terminal.22:21
bucketheadShred -n 3 /dev/sdd seems like its chugging away wonderfully. Three weeks or so to go?22:22
Angelus_DelapsusOf course: If your trying to wipe a 500GB HDD, it's going to take a whie ;)22:23
Angelus_Delapsus*while22:23
buckethead20 x 250gb.. I think I might see if I have another box somewhere that I can hook four SATAs to and move things faster.22:24
mefisto__buckethead: you might be interested in http://www.dban.org/22:27
RytmenPinneHi, how would I go about to make xfce default from kde?22:27
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* shill check22:31
bucketheadthanks mefisto__.. Unfortunately someone already pulled the drives :/22:31
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JackWinteraargh this is annoying.  just reinstalled kubuntu 8.10 and tried to install wine again.  still i get no wine menu in the k menu, just a few wine icons in the lost+found...22:32
JackWinterhappy this isn't my main boot :)22:32
JackWinterseems like this is a known bug, no one knows how to fix it ?22:49
mefisto__JackWinter: I just installed wine from intrepid-proposed and it created a wine submenu22:50
JackWintermefisto__: crazy.  how did you install it ?  i just installed a fresh copy of 8.10, then upgraded everything.  tried to install wine and no better than before..22:51
mefisto__JackWinter: in the software sources window (you can get to it from adept) "updates" tab, enable "pre-released updates (intrepid-proposed)"22:52
JackWinterthanks for trying in any case22:52
JackWinteraha, ok let me check that out22:53
mefisto__JackWinter: then I just did sudo apt-get install wine22:53
przem Hello How can I change my tmp dir from /tmp to for instance /usr/tmp ( I got message "there's not enough room on the /tmp ... " ) ?22:55
JackWinterprzem: create a link22:56
mefisto__przem: that won't give you more room (unless /usr/tmp is on a different partition)22:56
przemmefisto__: so the only way is to create a new partition ?22:57
JackWinterprzem: no you can create a link to another partition with the ln command22:58
mefisto__przem: tried deleting unneeded things from /tmp ?22:58
przemmefisto__: yes I'have removed aptitude temp files22:58
przemJackWinter: but it should be hard or soft link ?22:59
Dillizarwhat is the command for removing a program23:00
mefisto__przem: df -h  to see how full your partitions are23:00
JackWinterprzem: a softlink23:01
mefisto__Dillizar: sudo apt-get remove <package-name>23:01
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Dillizarmefisto__, i tried that but i will copy your comand line and see what will happen :P23:02
mefisto__Dillizar: ok, but don't copy <package-name>   what is the program you are removing23:02
JackWintermefisto__: i added the option you mentioned to sources.  then removed and installed wine, no change.  but i'' keep fighting tomorrow :)  thanks for the help..!23:02
Dillizardunno mefisto__ the flash plugin for mozilla23:03
przemmefisto__: Now I have some space on /tmp, but I want to prevent fulling it in the future ;)23:03
mefisto__JackWinter: I did this in intrepid with kde 4.2, so that may be why23:03
JackWinterah yes indeed.  i think this was a 4.1 bug issue :)23:04
mefisto__przem: do you have a separate home partition?23:04
JackWinteri should probably just install kde 4.2, since this is just an experiment partition anyway...23:04
JackWinterok, good night23:05
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mefisto__Dillizar: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree23:07
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mefisto__Dillizar: sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin23:07
mefisto__Dillizar: one of those should remove it23:07
halfsaneadept is not prompting me about available updates.. i have it set to do so.   anything I should try?23:07
przemmefisto__: Yes I have separate home partition23:07
halfsanei have to manually check23:07
przemmefisto__: With about 70 GB23:08
mefisto__przem: how big is your / partition?23:09
przemmefisto__: 3G23:10
przemmefisto__: 3GB ;)23:10
JackWinterprzem: you could also resize your partitions.  i have a couple of 10gb / partitions (neveer ran out of space), then a seperate /home for my data, and a seperate /boot/grub for easy installs...23:10
JackWinterprzem: 3gb is small.  try 5-8gb or so....23:11
mefisto__przem: my / is currently using 8.6 GB so maybe you need it to be bigger, or remove programs you don't need23:11
przemmefisto__: I have /usr partition also, so programs are ther23:12
przemand what tools do you recomend for resizing partitions ?23:12
JackWinterprzem: where is your /var ?23:13
mefisto__przem: qtparted or gparted running on livecd23:13
przemJackWinter: my /var is on the main root /23:14
JackWinterprzem: i tried using qparted but ended up using gparted (heretic :).  i had no problem with data loss, but if you have big disks it might take a long time...23:14
JackWinterprzem: your /var might be filling up (not only tmp)....23:15
przemJackWinter: I've used gtparted, some time ago on another computer, and it has destroyed my paritions :/23:15
JackWinterprzem: qtparted or gparted ?  i couldn't get qtparted to work so used gparted.  no problems...23:16
kaddihow was the programm called to be able to read ext2/3 with windows?23:16
przemJackWinter: I used the one, which comes with kubuntu live cd23:16
mefisto__przem: I use gparted all the time and have never had a problem. but resizing partitions is always risky23:17
kaddi!ext2ifs23:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2ifs23:17
kaddi!search ext223:17
ubottuFound:23:17
przemmefisto__: Yes I've been noticed this :/23:17
przemmefisto__:  ;)23:17
JackWinterprzem: that sounds like the qtparted.  couldn't get that to work.  i used gparted and had no problems.  ymmw :)23:17
mefisto__przem: that's 2 votes for gparted over qtparted :)23:18
JackWinterprzem: or :(  not laughing at ya...23:18
JackWintermefisto__: puts gnomes in your system though :)23:18
mefisto__JackWinter: I only ever use it on livecd23:19
przemI thought, that maybe there's another faster way, then resizing paritions, but THANK YOU very much guys fo help :) I'will check your solution :)23:19
mefisto__przem: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php23:20
JackWinterah, i'm addicted to gkrellm so i have to live with them.  but yes a knoppix (or other boot) and then run gparted that is how i do it.  today i booted the kubuntu 8.10 livecd and installed gparted and then did my work.  so far no probs...23:21
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JackWinterprzem: the fast way is to make a link to another partition...  check out the ln command...23:22
przemJackWInter: I coudnt do it. :/ I ran command ln -s /tmp /usr/tmp23:22
przemJackWInter: and didnt work23:23
JackWintertry ln -T -s /usr/tmp /tmp  (i think)  always have to use man on that command :)23:24
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JackWinterthat would normally work for a file, not sure about a dir23:24
mefisto__przem: yes I think you got it wrong way around. target first, then name of the link that will point to the target23:25
przemJackWInter: my konsole says that /tmp file already exists23:25
przemJackWInter: my konsole says that /tmp file already exists23:26
przemJackWInter: so maybe I should do it from live cd23:26
przemJackWInter: because now I cant change my /tmp file23:26
mefisto__przem: yep. you'll have to remove /tmp and replace it with a link23:26
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JackWintermaybe you should try without the -T23:27
przemJackWInter: the same :/23:28
JackWinterand yes you should rmdir /tmp before doing that.23:28
sobersabrehi.23:28
sobersabrehi.23:28
sobersabreI am trying to install kde 4.2 over ubuntu 8.1023:28
sobersabrewhat is the packages list I need to install to have KDE session, etc. ?23:28
sobersabreI am looking at this page:23:28
sobersabrehttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.223:28
sobersabreand it has no list of packages, just package sources, and what NOT to install.23:29
przemok I'll check this first, it's much safer than resizing partition ;)23:29
przemThanks again23:30
mefisto__przem: you should probably also set the t flag for your new tmp23:30
bledhi I am totaly new in kubuntu i23:30
przemmefist__: ok23:30
mefisto__przem: do ls -l / and notice /tmp has that, unlike normal dirs23:30
bledi am trying to instal kubuntu23:31
bledexactly i have instaled  on my pc but i have many problems with instaling applications and updeting the KDE23:31
bledwhere can i find any  tutorial23:31
sobersabrehmm23:32
przemmefisto__: what does this flag mean ?23:32
sobersabreis anybody able to tell me what I need to install to have kde 4.2 ?23:32
mefisto__przem: it means anything in there can be deleted. I think that happens on every boot23:33
mefisto__przem: for temp files specifically23:33
przemmefisto__: ok23:34
przemmefisto__: :)23:34
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JackWinterok, gnight everyone.  another battle tomorrow :)23:35
camaderhi.  trying to upgrade to X11R7.4, but 7.3 is in my apt-cache.  running kde3.5, kernel2.6.2423:42
camaderis 7.4 compatible?  if so, how do I apt-get it?23:42
camaderkde3.5.10 i should have said.23:45
mefisto__camader: to do it with apt-get, you would have to find a repository that has that version23:45
mefisto__camader: and trust that it will work, since it's an important part of a graphical desktop23:45
camadermefisto__: is the fact that it's not in the default repo indicative that it may not work?23:46
camaderor do they just lag23:47
mefisto__camader: it may work. if it's not in the official repo, it means it's not tested enough to be supported by Canonical23:48
mefisto__camader: do you need it for something in particular?23:48
camadermefisto__: I was trying to configure a thinkpad trackpoint as described at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint23:49
camaderit looks easier with support for fdi files23:50
gonzaloxD23:50
DjFlyByanyone have an idea why in Kubuntu 7.10 it detects my drives in proper order (ie sda, sdb, sdc) but in 8.10 it has sda backwards with sdb??23:51
gonzaloxP23:51
mefisto__camader: maybe worth upgrading to intrepid? but you will lose kde 323:51
camaderi have a relatively weak laptop.  was concerned about eye candy overhead23:54
mefisto__DjFlyBy: what is the "proper" order? matching BIOS settings?23:54
mefisto__DjFlyBy: anyway, grub is responsible. you can help grub work it out by editing /boot/grub/device.map23:56

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