[00:01] <slack_> somebody?
[00:04] <ignacio> hi!
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[00:21] <administrator> hello to all
[00:21] <administrator> and good day
[00:22] <administrator> is there any one who can tell me how to add sound to kde
[00:22] <administrator> like when i open and close a windows
[00:35] <compilerwriter> Anyone have any luck with barry and Ibex on the Blackberry curve 8310
[00:38] <Squidy> Hi.. Is there a way to make a plasmoid using a bash script instead of python or something like that?
[00:40] <administrator> hello
[00:48]  * khalidmian is looking for help on ktorrent ip filter
[00:49] <khalidmian> when i try to downoad peerguardian filter i get There are no IP addresses to convert in /home/khalidmian/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/level1.txt
[00:49] <khalidmian> what dat mean?oes th
[00:49] <khalidmian> what does that mean i mean
[00:54] <austin_> I have Kubuntu 64 bit, and need flash on konqueror
[00:54] <austin_> can anyone help?
[00:57] <austin_> Hello?
[01:00] <khalidmian> austin_: http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php
[01:03] <Squidy> a plasmoid must be writting in python or c++?
[01:03] <Squidy> can i use bash to build a plasmoid?
[01:05] <austin_> khalidmian: Its giving me an error when i try to put in : cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper && make install clean
[01:05] <khalidmian> you have ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:06] <khalidmian> austin_: u have kubuntu?
[01:06] <austin_> khalidmian: kubuntu
[01:08] <khalidmian> austin_: did u install kubuntu restricted extras?
[01:08] <austin_> khalidmian: ??? I installed the restricted drivers, if thats wht you mean....i also did the updates
[01:09] <khalidmian> sudo apt-get kubuntu-restricted-extras should install
[01:10] <khalidmian> ooops
[01:10] <khalidmian> austin_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:10] <austin_> khalidmian: Then it will work?
[01:11] <khalidmian> yes
[01:11] <austin_> alright, we'll see here in just a few moments...
[01:11] <austin_> 64 bit is a good choice for a new user right?
[01:12] <khalidmian> makes no difference i prefer 32 bit
[01:12] <austin_> what would the difference be?  i have 4 gigs of ram, i heard 32 won't read it all
[01:16] <what_if> austin_: I think the kernel has himem support (> 1G ram) by default now... lemme go check
[01:18] <austin_> and "cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper && make install clean" still wont work "NO such file or directory" it says
[01:21] <austin_> anyone?
[01:22] <what_if> austin_: you have full privilages to that folder ?
[01:24] <austin_> what_if: I'm not sure. I am the only installer, but from what i've seen before i need to set stuff sometime..so i do not know, i assume so?
[01:25] <what_if> austin_: given that the folder is in /usr/...... you may need to be root, or at least put sudo before the command
[01:26] <austin_> what_if: i put sudo, still tells me the directory does not exist
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[01:26] <what_if> austin_: hmmm, does the directory exist?
[01:27] <austin_> what_if: I do not know....i'm new to linux still, i just installed it and u know, ran that package thing
[01:27] <what_if> austin_: what is it you need to compile then ? is it not in the repositories ?
[01:28] <wildbat> anyone know c here ?
[01:28] <what_if> wildbat: poorly...
[01:29] <r0pter_> hi ... i need help ... i need libraries of /usr/X11R6/X11/lib, but this directory is empty. how do i get these?
[01:29] <wildbat> i can't get ld work even hello world can you help ?
[01:29] <r0pter_> yes
[01:30] <what_if> austin_: nspluginwrapper is in the repositories, you can install it from there
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> austin_- I doubt that /usr/ports would exist in Kubuntu. ports is a BSD thing
[01:30] <austin_> what_if: this is what i'm trying to do: http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php
[01:30] <austin_> i was sen't this link
[01:30] <Dragnslcr> Well, that's going to be specific to FreeBSD
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> As the URL should make pretty clear
[01:31] <cuznt> !flash
[01:31] <ubottu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:31] <austin_> xD guess your right..
[01:33] <austin_> so what do i get to install flashy?
[01:33] <what_if> austin_: getting the link, just a sec
[01:33] <what_if> austin_: you have 32 or 64 bit kubuntu ?
[01:33] <r0pter_> get flashplugin-nonfree and remove all other
[01:34] <austin_> how do i remove them?
[01:35] <r0pter_> apt-get remove gnash ... for example
[01:36] <austin_> i really don't know what i'm doing here guys.....gnash is not what i put then i'm assuiming?
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[01:37] <khalidmian> can anyone assist on ktorrent ipfilter issue
[01:37] <austin_> will 32 bit be a good idea to switch too instead, like, will i run into problems like this in the future?
[01:37] <what_if> austin_: nash is a little behind flash10 in support
[01:37] <what_if> +g :)
[01:38] <austin_> ok, so what do i do in the terminal?
[01:38] <what_if> austin_: I run 64 bit here with no problems. 64bit kubuntu is actually dual lib (32+64 bit)
[01:39] <what_if> apt-get remove gnash
[01:39] <what_if> apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[01:39] <what_if> *** apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:39]  * what_if my bad
[01:40] <austin_> i got "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" for both
[01:40] <austin_> wte
[01:40] <austin_> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[01:40] <what_if> then it is already installed...
[01:41] <what_if> is it still not working?
[01:41] <austin_> hm....oh hold on
[01:41] <what_if> remember you have to close the browser (all of them) and then re-run
[01:41] <austin_> >.> what would be a good flash site to test out...youtube?
[01:42] <austin_> yah still not working
[01:43] <cuznt> what browser?
[01:44] <austin_> Konqueror
[01:44] <cuznt> you must enable it i think in prefs
[01:44] <austin_> ?how do i do that
[01:44] <cuznt> im not sure.... flash does not work well in konqueror for me
[01:44] <cuznt> i use epiphany
[01:44] <cuznt> mostly
[01:45] <cuznt> !epiphany
[01:45] <austin_> will fire fox work dandy?
[01:45] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epiphany
[01:45] <cuznt> yes
[01:45] <cuznt> firefox works too....
[01:45] <austin_> and do you guys recommend sticking with 32 bit softwre, or actually using the 64 if they have it
[01:45] <cuznt> i am only 32
[01:45] <halfsane> 64 baby!
[01:45] <cuznt> so i do not know
[01:45] <what_if> 64
[01:46] <halfsane> its a landslide!
[01:46] <austin_> ok cool! anyone wan't to tell me whats so speical about 64, besdies the fact it won't run dead after 2038?
[01:46] <what_if> in normal every-day computing 64 bit is nothing...
[01:47] <austin_> well, why would i prefer 64 over 32?
[01:47] <what_if> for scientific and mathematical applications / large servers it allows for more date, more storage
[01:47] <cuznt> it won't run dead after 2038?
[01:47] <what_if> *data
[01:47] <cuznt> whats that mean
[01:47] <what_if> unix y2k
[01:47] <austin_> the whole Unix thing
[01:47] <austin_> lol
[01:47] <what_if> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
[01:47] <austin_> lol
[01:48] <austin_> 123456790!
[01:48] <austin_> so really theres no difference between 64 and 32
[01:48] <austin_> just stick with 64 bit software? and can 64 run anything 32?
[01:48] <what_if> to the desktop user no. bragging rights
[01:49] <halfsane> yep, the big advantage is you can use > 4GB memory
[01:49] <what_if> maybe _maybe_ certian applications will run faster in 64 bit bit its rare
[01:49] <austin_> yay! :D nice guys/ladys, thank you :)
[01:50] <austin_> i just got a new acer 21 inch screen, and my KDE4 desktop is loooooking nice
[01:50] <halfsane> yea , 4.2 is beautiful         ... nice monitor
[01:51]  * what_if likes kde4, but misses konqueror
[01:52] <austin_> yah, but i think i'll do with firefox, i just snagged a theme for it to match
[01:52] <austin_> *flash is working now btw! gracias*
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[01:55] <what_if> austin_: awesome
[01:57] <austin_> ok guys, quick supernoob question: I have a tar.gz file on my desktop, how do i install?
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> You can use ark to extract it
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> After that, depends on what it is
[01:58] <austin_> Dragslcr: its songbridx64
[01:58] <what_if> I'm copying files from my blackberry to an external HD. how/where can I see the progress ?
[01:59] <Dragnslcr> austin_- is it source code that you have to compile?
[01:59] <what_if> there was a transfer popup, but it went away after a few seconds (3.5GB of music... no way it was that fast)
[01:59] <austin_> Dragnslcr: I guess so. theres folders like plugins, lib, crips, LICENSE.html, songbird-bin
[02:00] <Dragnslcr> austin_- I dunno. Look for a README file
[02:00] <austin_> found one, doesn't say jack....what do you guys use to sync with ipod and play muzic?
[02:01] <halfsane> austin_: amarok
[02:01] <austin_> do linux apps have a set up? like u have in windows?
[02:01] <zaapiel-mobile> heh
[02:02] <zaapiel-mobile> o man
[02:02] <halfsane> austin_: .deb packages will, some you need to compile yourself, and others you can just run from the terminal
[02:02] <austin_> halfsane: well i ran a terminal fiel i guess, but now its telign me my library is corrupt and cannot be read
[02:03] <austin_> i clicked continue anyway, but it still launched
[02:04] <halfsane> austin_: dont know man, try this out next time http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-source-files-in-ubuntu.html
[02:04] <SuspectZero> how can i mount a file thats on my smb network?
[02:09] <austin_> my cd's not working (the command) :(
[02:09] <Dr_willis> thats a little vague..
[02:11] <SuspectZero> how can i mount a file thats on my smb network?
[02:12] <Dr_willis> You may need to actually 'mount' the share. then mount the file via the loop options in mount
[02:14] <itsatrick> I have this problem with Openoffice.org.  For some reason, it screws up the KDE Plasmoids. Does anyone else have this problem?
[02:14] <itsatrick> I can post a screenshot (somehow) of what happens.
[02:20] <r0pter_> how do i get the libraries for X??? i have no libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib ... are the at another place?
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[02:22] <Dragnslcr> r0pter_- might need the Xorg dev packages
[02:22] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi.
[02:23] <Alan_Lockwood> Where is the files of SuperTux (game). I whould like to get some of its musics =)
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[02:25] <cuznt> !SuperTux
[02:25] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SuperTux
[02:26] <Alan_Lockwood> !SuperTux
[02:26] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SuperTux
[02:26] <Alan_Lockwood> It does not know...
[02:26] <Alan_Lockwood> !supertux
[02:26] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supertux
[02:26] <Alan_Lockwood> i had to try xD
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> Alan_Lockwood- looks like it's in /usr/share/games/supertuxkart
[02:33] <r0pter_> @Dragnslcr thx ... i tried some packages, but noone was the right
[02:33] <Alan_Lockwood> im going to see...
[02:35] <Alan_Lockwood> YEAH!
[02:35] <Alan_Lockwood> I got it!
[02:35] <Alan_Lockwood> THANKS A LOT!
[02:35] <Alan_Lockwood> :D
[02:40] <halfsane> hey all, whats the best irc client to be using?
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Depends on your needs.
[02:40] <Dr_willis> I use xchat or irssi
[02:41] <halfsane> Dr_willis: thanks,  im using the default app... figured there was better out there..
[02:42] <Dr_willis> depends on your needs :)
[02:43] <halfsane> no doubt,   lookin for something with a slimmer UI,   thanks
[02:44] <quassel34> #ubuntu-es
[03:08] <r102714> olas
[03:10] <mr-t---> !es
[03:10] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[03:13] <tyrone> hello i always had my panel semi transparent but i changed its size and now its solid color i tryed to changed it back but i cannot find an option to do that can anyone help me I am using kde 4.2
[03:16] <tyrone> I want to add that when i move it to antoher screenedge it becomes transparent again
[03:22] <SuspectZero> i got a .sh script but when i chmod +x it, it still shows up as not a command
[03:22] <SuspectZero> any suggestions?
[03:23] <huntz> hello all, I have a question about updating
[03:25] <chuckf> SuspectZero: I am assuming you ran it as ./command
[03:25] <SuspectZero> ...damn
[03:25] <SuspectZero> im a tard
[03:26] <chuckf> SuspectZero: its late, you're allowed this time...
[03:26] <SuspectZero> hahha thanks XD
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[03:32] <huntz> I am running edgy and noticed that adept wont let me get updates for programs, reading the faq it says that there are no updates just upgrades
[03:33] <huntz> so can I get updates from some other resources till I get a little more comfortable with kubuntu
[03:34] <huntz> or is upgrading from edgy to fiesty or higher not that complicated
[03:39] <mr-t---> !upgrade
[03:39] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:40] <huntz> lol
[03:41] <huntz> I left my grub uninstalled after fixing windows I hadnt even realized I was running obsolete
[03:41] <chuckf> I'm new to konversation. How do I turn off the join/part messages?
[03:47] <huntz> Ubotto: thanks for the link. well this should be fun, to bad I waited so long to come back, I had no idea I was so far behind
[03:50] <Socceroos> Riddell: ping
[03:52] <huntz> So I figure that I shouldn't let adept do the upgrade, being as the eolupgrades page is all terminal entry right?
[03:55] <aleyva> hola a todos
[03:55] <Dragnslcr> chuckf- Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> Chat Window
[03:56] <aleyva> alguien tiene problemas abriendo DVD y CD
[03:56] <aleyva> [23866.208011] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] unaligned transfer
[03:56] <aleyva> con esos errores
[03:56] <aleyva> en dmesg
[03:56] <aleyva> en Kubuntu 810
[03:57] <Pici> !es | aleyva
[03:57] <ubottu> aleyva: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[03:58] <aleyva> plop
[04:17] <yady_> hola alguien me podria explicar para que es este chat
[04:20] <mr-t---> !es
[04:20] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.
[04:22] <yady_> hola
[04:22] <quassel249> hoa
[04:22] <yady_> hola tu sabes para que es este chat
[04:25] <bryan> hello all. i am trying to install a canon pixma mp620. i am getting an error that says pstocanonij not installed
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[04:28] <silleme> desperate for assist with mounting of paritions for kubuntu...
[04:29] <robotgeek> silleme: what do you need?
[04:29] <silleme> have dual boot (xp and kubuntu setup)
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[04:29] <silleme> help with mounting 3 partitions fat 32
[04:29] <silleme> to kubuntu.
[04:30] <bryan> will wine work to install printer drivers?
[04:30] <robotgeek> bryan: no
[04:30] <robotgeek> silleme: are you comfortable with working from a terminal?
[04:31] <silleme> no... but can.. s long as i can follow the basic commands
[04:31] <bryan> robotgeek: whats the best way to install a printer then? i see the driver on the openprinting database. it works but its not a good print out
[04:31] <robotgeek> silleme: okay, please open a terminal window.
[04:31] <silleme> done
[04:32] <robotgeek> bryan: what do you mean, not a good printout? have you checked printer settings (make sure you are using high quality)
[04:32] <robotgeek> silleme: sudo fdisk -l
[04:32] <ciber> hello
[04:32] <ciber> helllo
[04:32] <ciber> what you doo??
[04:32] <legion> wuallla
[04:32] <robotgeek> ciber: do you need help with something?
[04:32] <silleme> k
[04:32] <robotgeek> silleme: please paste the output in pastebin.
[04:33] <robotgeek> !pastebin > silleme
[04:33] <ubottu> silleme, please see my private message
[04:34] <silleme> robotgeek:  have 2 pcs running.  linux syst sepaerate from one i am on now...
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[04:36] <robotgeek> silleme: i have my kde up and running now.
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[04:37] <bryan> robotgeek: the print out has dashes in it. and the fonts are to big
[04:37] <ciber> hello
[04:38] <ciber> hello
[04:38] <bryan> robotgeek: it looks like it was printed on dotmatrix printer.. there are horizontal white lines that are everywehre
[04:38] <silleme> robotgeek; will try to connect to irc thru linux system
[04:38] <robotgeek> silleme: no need,
[04:38] <khalidmian> im looking for ktorrent ipfilter related help
[04:39] <robotgeek> silleme: try this. Go to Ssytem Settings, and in advanced "Disks and File Systems"
[04:40] <khalidmian> when i try running ipfilter under ktorrent it says There are no IP addresses to convert in /home/username/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/level1.txt
[04:40] <silleme> robotgeek k... cause i wa having difficult time figuring out konveration for 1st time..  ok... will go there now
[04:41] <silleme> robotgeek: there now.
[04:41] <robotgeek> khalidmian: you actually need a list of ip addresses there, in that location, i think
[04:41] <bryan> anyother ideas on getting a printer driver installed?
[04:42] <ciber> hello!!
[04:42] <ciber> hello!
[04:42] <silleme> robotgeek:  the only partitions so far mounted are my linux one (ext3) and cdrom
[04:43] <khalidmian> robotgeek: i selectd peerguradianfilter and ipfilterfile from bluetack.co.uk/cofig/splist.zip and tried to download and convertit but get the command There are no IP addresses to convert in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/level1.txt
[04:43] <robotgeek> khalidmian: did you actually unzip the file?
[04:43] <mr-t---> ciber: what
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[04:44] <robotgeek> khalidmian: and try to import it?
[04:44] <khalidmian> robotgeek: isnt ktorrent suppose to download/convert byitself
[04:44] <robotgeek> khalidmian: i have not used it in a long time, try unzip and see if it works
[04:45] <ciber> HELLO!
[04:45] <khalidmian> robotgeek: doesnt not unzip
[04:45] <ciber> what they name?
[04:45] <robotgeek> ciber: do you need help with something?
[04:46] <robotgeek> silleme: which version of kde are you using?
[04:46] <mr-t---> ya thats what i said
[04:46] <khalidmian> robotgeek: ark cannot open archive splist.zip
[04:47] <robotgeek> khalidmian: do u have unzip installed?
[04:47] <silleme> robotgeek: i think 7.4...?
[04:47] <robotgeek> khalidmian: sudo apt-get install unzip, then see if you can unzip it (you could have a bad file downloaded)
[04:48] <khalidmian> isnt ark an archiving tool
[04:48] <robotgeek> khalidmian: it is a wrapper around the cmd line tools
[04:51] <robotgeek> silleme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[04:52] <khalidmian> robotgeek: unzip is already the newest version.
[04:54] <robotgeek> khalidmian: http://bluetack.co.uk/cofig/splist.zip does not exist
[04:54] <robotgeek> khalidmian: go there in your browser
[04:55] <khalidmian> its not cofig its config
[04:58] <robotgeek> khalidmian: unzip does not like the file anyways. it says it might be a part of a multifile archive or so.
[04:58] <khalidmian> yup
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[05:02] <bsims> Anyone know why inconsolata looks like canned arse in konversation
[05:03] <ubuntu_> test
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[05:04] <tbenst> hey
[05:04] <tbenst> I'm trying to partition a fakeRAID 0
[05:05] <tbenst> while keeping the current NTFS partition
[05:05] <tbenst> I already used ntfsresize
[05:06] <tbenst> but when i used parted -l
[05:06] <tbenst> it showed a start location as 32.3kB
[05:06] <tbenst> any ideas as to why its 32.3kB? (as opposed to a normal number)
[05:10] <tbenst> hello
[05:11] <robotgeek> tbenst: what would a normal number be?
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[06:28] <arnis> hai aib
[06:29] <puneeth> how do i change preffered applications in kubuntu?
[06:30] <arnis> hai puneeth
[06:31] <puneeth> i want to know how to change preffered applications in kubuntu
[06:31] <puneeth> please tell me how to
[06:31] <arnis> jusi install
[06:33] <bazhang> puneeth, which apps
[06:36] <puneeth> firefox
[06:37] <puneeth> bazhang, i use thunderbird n there are links sent to me... when i click on the link firefox used to open by default now nothing opens
[06:37] <bazhang> puneeth, running kubuntu 8.10?
[06:38] <puneeth> bazhang; i just installed KDE 4.2 over ubuntu 8.10... so u can say... yeah kubuntu 8.10
[06:38] <bazhang> puneeth, do you see 'system settings' ?
[06:39] <puneeth> bazhang, got it... thanks
[06:39] <bazhang> Kmenu > System > System settings > preferred applications
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[06:40] <DjFlyBy> seems everytime I try to install Kubuntu it installs fine, but upon reboot after the install it just goes to the grub screen
[06:40] <puneeth> bazhang, now how do i make firefox default?
[06:41] <bazhang> sorry 'default applications'
[06:41] <bazhang> under 'web browser'
[06:42] <DjFlyBy> anyone have any ideas for me?
[07:06] <scbird> Hi there all, having some trouble with the KDE 4.2 packages
[07:08] <scbird> There is a clash on /usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu
[07:08] <scbird> between kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb and kdebase-workspace-bin
[07:09] <scbird> does anyone know how to resolve it?
[07:18] <linleno> Hi, I'm facing a problem that KDM activates IM(input method) program/module as root before normal user login.
[07:18] <linleno> How do I solve this problem?
[07:19] <linleno> As a result, user cannot access the im program to do CJK input.
[07:22] <shadeslayer> hi,how do i install qassel on kubuntu
[07:24] <bazhang> !info quassel
[07:24] <ubottu> quassel (source: quassel): distributed, Qt based, IRC client using a central core component. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu9 (intrepid), package size 2246 kB, installed size 4236 kB
[07:24] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install quassel
[07:25] <shadeslayer> wont work
[07:25] <shadeslayer> oh wait,it just did
[07:25] <bazhang> heh
[07:25] <shadeslayer> wrong name i guess
[07:25] <shadeslayer> i wrote quassle earlier
[07:26] <bazhang> its a tricky one :)
[07:35] <shadeslayer> can anybody help me with adept,it keeps crashing
[07:36] <shadeslayer> never mind,it went up
[07:36] <linleno> shadeslayer: don't use adept any more
[07:37] <linleno> adept has stoped develope
[07:38] <shadeslayer> linleno: what should i use yhen?
[07:38] <shadeslayer> *then
[07:39] <shadeslayer> brb
[07:41] <shadeslayer> hi,how do i unistall a program??
[07:41] <shadeslayer> command line please
[07:42] <jussi01> shadeslayer: sudo apt-get remove program
[07:42] <jussi01> shadeslayer: you can add "--purge" if you want all config files gone also
[07:42] <shadeslayer> jussi01: oh its remove,i thought uninstall
[07:43] <shadeslayer> jussi01: ok
[07:43] <shadeslayer> i was removing irssi,making space on my HD
[07:45] <wrinkliez> ugh, is there a way to change a file type icon in kde4?
[07:46] <wrinkliez> i can't seem to change .torrents :(
[07:46] <shadeslayer> !adept | shadeslayer
[07:46] <ubottu> shadeslayer, please see my private message
[07:47] <shadeslayer> linleno: whats the alternative to adept??
[07:48] <linleno> shadesplayer: kde3 version of adept is just fine
[07:48] <linleno> but kde4 version is half completed
[07:48] <shadeslayer> ah,ok
[07:48] <linleno> synaptic is a good alternative
[07:48] <shadeslayer> i hav no problems with half completed things
[07:48] <linleno> in my own opinion
[07:49] <shadeslayer> i have synaptic installed too
[07:50] <linleno> shadeslayer: ha~ you can choose any software you like, it's kind of core spirit of oss
[07:50] <shadeslayer> hehe
[07:51] <shadeslayer> im still trying to figure out why my keyboard cursor jumps about
[07:51] <shadeslayer> takes me twice as much time to type in kubuntu as opposed to ubuntu
[07:51] <shadeslayer> *windows
[07:54] <shadeslayer> brb on quassel
[08:01] <shadeslayer_> OMG what happened to firefox
[08:01] <jessie> shadeslayer_: when?
[08:01] <shadeslayer_> wait ill show you
[08:02] <shadeslayer_> my theme is like uugggghh
[08:02] <tbenst>  Hi, I'm trying to resize the NTFS partition in my raid 0
[08:03] <tbenst> when i do parted -l it shows the partition as starting at 32.3kB
[08:03] <shadeslayer_> <a href="http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ux8.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4669/snapshot1ux8.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a><br /><br /><a href="http://img604.imageshack.us/content.php?page=blogpost&files=img18/4669/snapshot1ux8.png" title="QuickPost"><img src="http://imageshack.us/img/butansn.png" alt="QuickPost" border="0"></a> Quickpost this image
[08:03] <shadeslayer_>  Myspace, Digg, Facebook, and others!
[08:04] <tbenst> so i'm unsure as to what i should put as the start value, as 32.3 kB is not an integer value for bits
[08:04] <tbenst> any advice?
[08:04] <shadeslayer_> :O
[08:04] <bazhang> !imagebin
[08:04] <ubottu> Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel.
[08:04] <bazhang> shadeslayer_, ^^
[08:04] <shadeslayer_> hehe
[08:05] <shadeslayer_> cool theres even a imagebin
[08:06] <shadeslayer_> http://imagebin.org/38521
[08:06] <shadeslayer_> there
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[08:07] <tbenst> any thoughts? i've never done a partition through command line before
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[08:08] <shadeslayer> just look at ff in that screenshot :O
[08:08] <bazhang> !info gtk-qt-engine
[08:08] <ubottu> gtk-qt-engine (source: gtk-qt-engine): theme engine using Qt 4 for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1+svn20080816-0ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 94 kB, installed size 508 kB
[08:09] <shadeslayer> oh wait it corrected itself,lol
[08:09] <shadeslayer> i just restarted ff3
[08:09] <shadeslayer> weird
[08:10] <linleno> !info gtk-qt-engine
[08:10] <ubottu> gtk-qt-engine (source: gtk-qt-engine): theme engine using Qt 4 for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1+svn20080816-0ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 94 kB, installed size 508 kB
[08:10] <tbenst> hey so does anyone have experience with the parted command?
[08:11] <Ezra_> hurro
[08:11] <Ezra_> i need some helps with Network Manager 0.7
[08:12] <shadeslayer> Ezra_: go ahead
[08:14] <tbenst> hey i need some help with partitioning my drive so i can install ubuntu
[08:14] <Ezra_> I cant make it connect to a connection ive setup
[08:15] <shadeslayer> tbenst: tried gparted
[08:15] <tbenst> i have already resized the ntfs filesystem using ntfsresize
[08:15] <Ezra_> i assume the connection with the "X" on it is the one connected
[08:15] <shadeslayer> Ezra_: wired??
[08:15] <Ezra_> and i cant change it
[08:16] <Ezra_> yes =(
[08:16] <Ezra_> as wireless was a complete failure
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[08:16] <shadeslayer> Ezra_: why???
[08:16] <wildbat> my laptop work on both wired and wireless >.>
[08:17] <tbenst> thanks shade
[08:17] <EzraNZ> wireless connects and cionnects to the internet for Konquer, but not for Adept
[08:17] <shadeslayer> wifi has some problems with activation,just activate wifi after disabling it
[08:17] <EzraNZ> so i cant update with wireless for some unknown reason
[08:17] <wildbat> Ezra: how you connected to this chatroom  if you said you are not connected
[08:18] <EzraNZ> via a windows PC
[08:18] <EzraNZ> i really want to get kubuntu updating.. but network manager seems to be preventing that so far
[08:18] <roger_> st9op
[08:19] <roger_> stop
[08:19] <shadeslayer> EzraNZ: try sudo apt-get upgrade in konsole
[08:20] <EzraNZ> reading package lists etc
[08:21] <EzraNZ> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove
[08:21] <EzraNZ> etc
[08:21] <shadeslayer> then the connection is working
[08:21] <EzraNZ> i dont think so
[08:21] <EzraNZ> i cant use apet to search for packages
[08:22] <shadeslayer> are you trying to upgrade after adding a PPA???
[08:22] <EzraNZ> PPA?
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[08:22] <shadeslayer> software in n00b terms
[08:22] <bazhang> !ppa
[08:22] <ubottu> With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.
[08:22] <EzraNZ> this is a fresh install of Kubutnu 8.10 via Wubi
[08:22] <shadeslayer> ah
[08:22] <EzraNZ> i have not installed anything extra from anywhere
[08:23] <shadeslayer> and youre trying to
[08:23] <EzraNZ> use Adept to update the system
[08:24] <EzraNZ> i assume the "PING" command works in kubuntu
[08:24] <EzraNZ> pinging kde.org returns nothing
[08:24] <shadeslayer> mmmm yeah
[08:24] <wildbat> google.com?
[08:24] <tbenst> shade: does gparted work with raid 0?
[08:25] <tbenst> i'm running a so-called "fakeraid"
[08:25] <EzraNZ> google.com the same result nothing
[08:25] <tbenst> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[08:25] <shadeslayer> no idea,just had a random thought about it
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[08:25] <wildbat> then you have problem with your connecion not with the apt
[08:26] <EzraNZ> for my current wired connect i need to specify my IP for my proxy to work, but the network manager will not connect to the wired connection i setup
[08:26] <shadeslayer> wildbat: yeah thats what s/he was saying
[08:26] <EzraNZ> it will connect to a connection with DHCP by default, but thats useless for the reaosn above
[08:28] <shadeslayer> EzraNZ: you did activate the connection,right??
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[08:29] <shadeslayer> EzraNZ: its not a USB wired modem,is it??
[08:29] <shadeslayer> i think only ethernet modems work as of now
[08:29] <jessie> How can I remount a filesystem as read-write?
[08:30] <EzraNZ> also, when i first plugged in my ethernet cable, network manager connected to a unlisted connection
[08:31] <shadeslayer> jessie: how about mount in konsole
[08:31] <jessie> Yes, I think I just found it. mount -o rw,remount
[08:32] <wildbat> EzraNZ: if you are behind proxy try this http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html
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[08:34] <EzraTest> he
[08:34] <EzraTest> no it snot USE
[08:34] <EzraTest> USB
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[08:34] <EzraTest> once it connected i created a new one and tired to use that, im ot sure if it worked or not id say not
[08:36] <EzraTest> but this is insane, the connection works for Konquer but not for Adept?
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[08:36] <shadeslayer> EzraTest: BTW someone just told me that adept is half broke
[08:36] <shadeslayer> so its better to use synaptic
[08:36] <EzraNZ> if only it were installed?
[08:38] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:38] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:38] <shadeslayer> oops
[08:38] <shadeslayer> that command in konsole
[08:38] <shadeslayer> i.e if your connection works
[08:39] <wildbat> i think i is installed by default
[08:39] <shadeslayer> wildbat: synaptic in Kubuntu,no ways
[08:39] <EzraNZ> yeah its not gonna work, it dosnet even know the internet exists
[08:39] <wildbat> in my laptop yes
[08:39] <EzraNZ> and dosent look
[08:40] <shadeslayer> wildbat: you probably installed it accidently
[08:40] <shadeslayer> ;)
[08:40] <wildbat> lol
[08:40] <wildbat> may be
[08:40] <EzraNZ> its not installed
[08:40] <shadeslayer> cuz i had to install it manually
[08:41] <shadeslayer> adept is the basic package manager
[08:41] <EzraNZ> dam this is annoying =(
[08:41] <wildbat> apt-get work good for me so i didn't touch both of them
[08:41] <shadeslayer> EzraNZ: did that link not work??
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[08:42] <EzraNZ> link?
[08:42] <wildbat> EzraNZ: if you are behind proxy try this http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html
[08:42] <EzraNZ> oh i dont know, i cant get the connection going again =(
[08:42] <shadeslayer>  http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html
[08:44] <shadeslayer> EzraNZ: in the new connection tab,what does it say??
[08:44] <EzraNZ> lame.. =( guess i gotta wait till march
[08:45] <shadeslayer> why,what happens then
[08:45] <EzraNZ> or wen eva 9.04 comes out
[08:45] <shadeslayer> hehe,its out now
[08:45] <wildbat> eva?
[08:45] <shadeslayer> ever
[08:46] <wildbat> ohohohoh ~
[08:46] <wildbat> lol ~ i keep loading for " what waht program ?" XD
[08:47] <shadeslayer> !wired
[08:47] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wired
[08:47] <shadeslayer> !network
[08:47] <ubottu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:47] <wildbat> export http_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.net:port/
[08:47] <wildbat> export ftp_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.netport/
[08:47] <shadeslayer> huh
[08:47] <wildbat> EzraNZ try this two line
[08:48] <wildbat> in Konsole as root before apt-get
[08:48] <shadeslayer> BTW how do i find the hardware name of my keyboard
[08:48] <wildbat> of coz replace with your proxy setting
[08:48] <shadeslayer> the generic name,etc
[08:49] <wildbat> no idea
[08:51] <wildbat> i still can't figure out how to make my lid button work correctly
[08:52] <shadeslayer> wildbat: devil power management
[08:52] <wildbat> huh?
[08:52] <shadeslayer> or the batt in the system tray
[08:52] <shadeslayer> you can set what closing the lid does
[08:53] <wildbat> nono it was acting strange it work AFTER i suspend to RAM or DPMS turns off the monitor
[08:53] <wildbat> but fresh boot ~ it said no >.>
[08:54] <shadeslayer> mine works fine
[08:54] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately the keyboard doesnt
[08:54] <wildbat> @,@
[08:54] <wildbat> that kills >.<
[08:55] <shadeslayer> yeah
[08:55] <shadeslayer> im typing and suddenly the cursor jumps and im left with a garbled sentence
[08:55] <wildbat> wireless?
[08:56] <shadeslayer> the regional manager doesnt support my keyboard
[08:56] <shadeslayer> laptop keyboard
[08:56] <shadeslayer> :P
[08:56] <wildbat> hmm what kind of keyboard you are using ? @,@;
[08:57] <shadeslayer> Dell XPS M1530 standard keyboard
[08:57] <wildbat> it is a "standard keyboard"! i can see XD
[08:57] <anthony_> how to register in IRC
[08:57] <shadeslayer> anthony_: /help register
[08:58] <shadeslayer> btter ask in #freenode though
[08:58] <shadeslayer> *better
[08:58] <shadeslayer> brb in 5min
[08:59] <shadeslayer> have to change rooms
[08:59] <shadeslayer> and have a wired connection :(
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[09:07] <shadeslayer> back
[09:10] <wildbat> wb
[09:11] <voicu> is irc.ubuntu.com the same as irc.freenode?
[09:11] <voicu> as far as i can tell the ubuntu related channels are the same
[09:11] <shadeslayer> yeah,i think so
[09:11] <Jahman> hi
[09:11] <voicu> ok
[09:11] <shadeslayer> better ask in  #freenode
[09:12] <shadeslayer> !hi | Jahman
[09:12] <ubottu> Jahman: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:12] <Jahman> hi shadeslayer and everybody
[09:13] <shadeslayer> ;)
[09:16] <wildbat> ok i am going to sleep
[09:16] <wildbat> later guys
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[09:20] <shadeslayer> bye
[09:20] <badserii> Hi! I just changed system language to greek. I can't move back to english locale. KDM is in greek, pidgin, firefox also are in greek, even if I deleted greek language and set the system language to english. Is it a bug? How can I solve my problem? Thank you in advance!
[09:25] <anthony_> How to load the  VirtualBox kernel module ?
[09:25] <badserii> I'm using kubuntu 8.04
[09:32] <drew_> how do i change the theme on kde 4.2?
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[10:16] <egonw> hi all, I have 4.2 running on Intrepid, but my widgets in Firefox are not properly sized, so that they are only half shown... anything I can do about this?
[10:17] <Tm_T> egonw: hmm, try switching your gtk theme?
[10:20] <egonw> Tm_T: sounds good... googling on how to change themes...
[10:29] <egonw> Tm_T: no, that does not have to seem any effect...
[10:29] <egonw> Tm_T: it's the buttons in web forms which are wrongly layed out
[10:29] <Tm_T> egonw: I know, did you restart Firefox?
[10:30] <egonw> sure
[10:30] <egonw> I only had the default installed, installed one from FF Add-ons website...
[10:30] <egonw> restarted
[10:30] <egonw> layout of FF changed, but not of the buttons in the forms
[10:31] <Tm_T> egonw: ah, but I wasn't talking about Firefox themes, but gtk themes (:
[10:31] <Tm_T> two different things
[10:31] <egonw> oh, ok... :)
[10:32] <egonw> Tm_T: something like: gtk-qt-engine-kde4 ?
[10:32] <Tm_T> egonw: well that's good to be installed I guess too
[10:33] <egonw> what otherwise?
[10:33] <egonw> meanwhile, isntalled that pkg and rebooting FF
[10:33] <Tm_T> egonw: anyway, problem propably is that the gtk theme you're using, is not properly scaled, bug in theme I guess
[10:33] <Tm_T> egonw: after its installed, play around with configs in systemsettings -> appearance -> gtk themes
[10:35] <egonw> ok, installing that package did not help...
[10:35] <egonw> tries appearance too
[10:35] <ct529> hi there
[10:35] <ct529> anyone who know of a good package to give voive commands to the pc?
[10:35] <ct529> s/voive/voice
[10:35] <egonw> was: 'Use my KDE style in GTK apps", Qt4 style did not help...
[10:36] <egonw> will try Raleigh now
[10:36] <egonw> OK, that helped
[10:36] <egonw> Tm_T: thanx!
[10:36] <Tm_T> egonw: np, buggy gtk theme was to blame (:
[10:40] <Hylman> hi... can anybody help me with bluetooth in kde?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:43] <Hylman> ping
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> pong
[10:43] <Tm_T> pong
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> toche
[10:44] <Tm_T> touché ?
[10:45] <Tm_T> or as british might say: deuce
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> that too
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> thats tennis....
[10:46] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: I know that (:
[10:47] <Unggnu> hi all
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Unggnu
[10:47] <ubottu> Unggnu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:47] <Unggnu> If desktop effects are disabled the panel has a blue color even if the background color is changed to black. How can I get a black one?
[10:47] <Unggnu> hi ActionParsnip
[10:48] <Tm_T> Unggnu: desktop themes doesn't follow colour settings yet
[10:49] <ct529> anyone who know of a good package to give voice commands to the pc?
[10:49] <jithin1987> hello
[10:49] <ct529> I am also having difficulties with festival .... is there anything a bit more up to date .... I have been reding articles on the internet for a while, but I have found little useful information
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-voice-control
[10:50] <ubottu> gnome-voice-control (source: gnome-voice-control): Speech recognizer to control the GNOME Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu6 (intrepid), package size 33 kB, installed size 220 kB
[10:51] <Unggnu> Tm_T: So I can't change the panel color?
[10:51] <Tm_T> Unggnu: not without changing theme
[10:52] <Unggnu> Tm_T: Then why it uses this ugly turquoise ?
[10:52] <Tm_T> Unggnu: artist has chosen that
[10:52] <Tm_T> Unggnu: feel free to use another desktop theme (:
[10:54] <ct529> !sphinx
[10:54] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sphinx
[10:54] <ct529> ActionParsnip: that is gnome not kde
[10:54] <Tm_T> ct529: doesn't mean it couldn't be used
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> ct529: thats all i can find in repos, unless you can find a kde one
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ct529: apt-cache search voice
[10:55] <zer0o> ivegot to give a key to my wi-fi router connection whats the most compatible type with linux? i use WICD to get connected, what do u suggest? wep wap or...? in the paste i had tried some, it wasnt recognizing it
[10:55] <zer0o> ActionParsnip: hi :D
[10:55] <ct529> ActionParsnip: well, I have done that already, as well as asearching the internet ....
[10:56] <ct529> ActionParsnip: al I can find is some obsolete stuff .... festival and so on ....
[10:56] <Tm_T> ct529: Festival is not obsolete, it works well
[10:56] <ct529> Tm_T: well .... it always depends on the definition of "well"
[10:56] <Unggnu> Tm_T: another then Oxygen?
[10:56] <Tm_T> Unggnu: yes
[10:57] <Unggnu> Tm_T: I don't understand the choosen color because the start menu is black and the transparent panel also has a black touch so turquiose makes no sense
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> ct529: then you are as wise as me, i'd just use the gnome one, seems to get raved about
[10:57] <Tm_T> Unggnu: you should talk to the author then
[10:57] <Unggnu> I haven't found a theme which looks as good atm, at least which is shown in the theme downloader
[10:57] <Unggnu> but thanks for help
[10:58] <Tm_T> Unggnu: perhaps you should try and install packaged ones?
[10:59] <ct529> ActionParsnip: does it work well?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ct529: its not something I use
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ct529: maybe theres some youtube oodness so you can watch it in action
[11:00] <ct529> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:00] <ct529> ActionParsnip: about tts? any idea?
[11:00] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I am using festival but I am far from happy
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> tts?
[11:02] <ct529> ActionParsnip: text to speech
[11:02] <ct529> !tts
[11:02] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tts
[11:03] <iulian_> when ktorrent will be upgraded to version 3.2?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ct529: i dont have any mics apart from the one built into my work laptop, i can type far faster than any text to speech thing so I dont use it
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ct529: i'm sure there are a slew of apps out there that may need compiling, try a few out
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> !info ktorrent
[11:04] <ubottu> ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.2+dfsg.1-0ubuntu2.1 (intrepid), package size 1828 kB, installed size 9000 kB
[11:04] <iulian_> i know, but is buggy
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> iulian_: is 3.1 not working for you?
[11:04] <iulian_> it uses a lot of memory
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> iulian_: http://ktorrent.org/downloads/3.2/ktorrent-3.2.tar.bz2
[11:05] <ct529> iulian_: you can configure kget to act as torrent client
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> iulian_: its out now
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> iulian_: http://ktorrent.org/?q=downloads
[11:05] <iulian_> k
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> iulian_: just gotta compile it
[11:07] <iulian_> maybe to join the kubutnu ktorrent team and make a pakage for all of us?
[11:08] <iulian_> how can a do that?(joining kubuntu ktorrent team?)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> iulian_: you could make a deb and give it to the package maintainers
[11:11] <jussi01> !motu
[11:11] <ubottu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:13] <iulian_> thanks
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> he-man?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !info aeolus
[11:30] <ubottu> aeolus (source: aeolus): Synthesised pipe organ emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.1-1 (intrepid), package size 112 kB, installed size 380 kB
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[11:39] <ct529> I tried ubuntustudio .... not bad!
[11:40] <shadeslayer> and how is it related to kubuntu??
[11:40] <ct529> shadeslayer: mmmm .... because kde applications that should work in kubuntu only work in ubuntustudio?
[11:47] <JackWinter> shadeslayer: different desktop.  otherwise you can pretty much do all you do in US in kubuntu...
[11:48] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[11:48] <shadeslayer> does it have ickly sickly toothed GNOME's
[11:48] <shadeslayer> ;)
[11:49] <ct529> JackWinter: in Rt kernel
[11:49] <ct529> a tiiiiiiiny difference
[11:50] <JackWinter> ct529: you can load a rt kernel for kubuntu too, and possibly with 2.6.28 we won't need it anymore...
[11:50] <JackWinter> shadeslayer: and sorry no idea why i responded to you :)
[11:51] <shadeslayer> np
[11:51] <ct529> JackWinter: yes, you can .... but you have to see how you not multimedia applications work .... :)
[11:53] <JackWinter> ct529: i've been doing audio work in kubuntu with a wine app at 64/128 samples in jack and a realtime kernel for over a year by now.  works pretty damn good.
[11:53] <hyper_ch> I wonder, if I go into system settings --> desktop search --> advanced tab: how can I make hidden folders visible so that I can index them too?
[11:53] <ct529> JackWinter: that sounds veeeeery interesting!
[11:53] <JackWinter> ct529: still on 8.04 though, just booted my 8.10 to update and see if it works any better than last time around
[11:54] <carpii> what wine app, just out of interest?
[11:54] <ct529> JackWinter: I had serious problems in setting up the jack server on kubuntu .... I gave up and installed ubuntustudio on a virtual machine
[11:54] <carpii> i tried Ardour before, i couldnt get it to recognise my sound system in 8.04
[11:54] <ct529> JackWinter: could you give me some pointers, please?
[11:54] <JackWinter> carpii: reaper with bsd2, amplitube, etc.
[11:54] <carpii> thanks
[11:56] <JackWinter> i suppose so.  jack is pretty difficult to install well.  as a matter of fact, sound is pretty horrible to setup in linux :)
[11:56] <JackWinter> ct529: so what did you try ?
[11:56] <carpii> yeah its a achilles heel of ubuntu for sure
[11:57] <carpii> i wish Creative would produce drivers for X-Fi, its pathetic they spent 2 years pretending to be working on them, then just gave up
[11:57] <JackWinter> it's starts with alsa and then you encounter the beast at every corner :))
[11:57] <ct529> JackWinter: yes it is .... I followed the documentation, and run as root differetn scripts .... jack appeared to be running, but none of the aplications would connect
[11:58] <JackWinter> without working alsa drivers you are pretty much out of luck i think....
[11:58] <ct529> JackWinter: I immagined it was because another server was "taking over" the sound
[11:58] <carpii> yeah, i ended up buying a basic soundblaster
[11:58] <JackWinter> ct529: normally you shouldn't run jack as root...
[11:58] <carpii> which was a waste of money because then i realised i had onboard sound too :p
[11:58] <ct529> JackWinter: that is what the documentation sayd!
[11:59] <ct529> JackWinter: but I also tried to run it as user without any success
[11:59] <ct529> JackWinter: wasted a few days then gave up ....
[11:59]  * ct529 sounds a bit like Creative
[11:59] <JackWinter> ct529: don't know which doc says that.  one thing i did was to remove pulse audio completely.  the other thing in my favour is that i have an onboard card for linux, and a rme multiface only for jack...
[12:00] <ct529> JackWinter: oh ....
[12:00] <ct529> JackWinter: but if you remove pulseaudio what happens to all the other applications which relay on it?
[12:01] <blaster999> hi all!
[12:02] <blaster999> I am using kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2, but also am using Quanta Plus from kde 3.5
[12:02] <Tm_T> ct529: no applications should be rely on pulseaudio only
[12:02] <blaster999> I need to install the SFTP kioslave for KDE3 applications, so Quanta can make use of it
[12:02] <ct529> JackWinter: when I try to remove pulseaudio, it tried to remove the entire kde desktop .... I have just tried
[12:03] <Tm_T> ct529: just don't use it then (:
[12:03] <ct529> Tm_T: don't use what?
[12:04] <JackWinter> ct529: like i said i'm on kubuntu 8.04 normally and i didn't have that problem.  did you start with some ubuntu flavour and then install kde ?
[12:04] <ct529> JackWinter: nope .... standard 810 64bit install ....
[12:04] <ct529> JackWinter: is there a way to route the jack into pulse audio or the other way around?
[12:05] <Tm_T> ct529: pulseaudio, if you don't like to use it
[12:06] <ct529> Tm_T: when I try to uninstall it, the package manager tries to uninstall the whole kde desktop with all applications
[12:06] <Tm_T> ct529: no, don't uninstall then, just don't _use_ it
[12:06] <JackWinter> ct529: maybe something changed for 8.10.  afaik there are probs with the -rt too in 8.10.  think the reccomendation is 8.04 for serious audio work.  now that i think about it, think i kicked pulseaudio for getting secondlife/skype/kde etc to get along, but i know that there is a problem for jack to open the alsa driver when PA already has it...
[12:07] <ct529> JackWinter: that may be the problem ....! jack started fine, but it did simply not work or return any error
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[12:08] <JackWinter> ct529: think that jack would not start if it can't open the soundcard...
[12:08] <ct529> JackWinter: well, it did .... on the other hand, applications / clients did not find it ....
[12:08] <ct529> JackWinter: but ps -ef found it .....
[12:08] <ct529> JackWinter: so I ended up with ubuntustudio
[12:09] <JackWinter> another gotcha is that the mixer might be muted, so needs to be turned on.  but a lot of this stuff is already taken care of in ubuntustudio...  me i just prefer kde so i soldier along :)
[12:09] <ct529> JackWinter: yes, I very much prefer kde .... indeed i am using ubuntustudio in a virtual machine!
[12:09] <ct529> JackWinter: checked the mixer first thing
[12:10] <JackWinter> that probably isn't going to work to well.  you could try ubuntustudio 8.04 for audio work, and then run kubuntu 8.10 in a virtualbox with software rendering.  a bit slow but not too bad :)
[12:12] <JackWinter> ct529: so you can start jackd from say qjackctl and it starts with no probs ?  then it sounds like you have jack working.  what is the next step that didn't work ?
[12:12] <ct529> JackWinter: yes correct ....
[12:12] <ct529> JackWinter: when I start a client application, it does not find jack server
[12:14] <JackWinter> hmm, don't know how to help you there.  did you try ardour ?
[12:14] <JackWinter> and what does your .jackrc say ?
[12:15] <ct529> JackWinter: it was long time ago .... several weeks!
[12:16] <ct529> JackWinter: I still have the last one, did not remove it .... /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2
[12:18] <JackWinter> looks ok afaik.  maybe because you are 64bit, or maybe because you run jack as root ?  did you edit /etc/security/limits.conf and add your user to the audio group ?
[12:18] <ct529> JackWinter: wait
[12:19] <JackWinter> in any case it can be done, just takes a lot of figuring out to get it going.  or take the easy way and install ubuntustudio 8.04 32bit
[12:19] <ct529> JackWinter: I tried with normal user as well
[12:19] <ct529> JackWinter: that is what I have running in the virtual machine .... but I like the challenge
[12:20] <ct529> JackWinter: I tried with normal user as well, not only with root
[12:20] <JackWinter> yeah, but the virtual machine won't work very well for audio and it's an emulated soundcard....
[12:23] <ct529> JackWinter: indeed ....
[12:24] <ct529> JackWinter: how do you switch off pulse audio?
[12:26] <JackWinter> think i just removed all the packages that had to do with it.  but this was on 8.04...
[12:27] <JackWinter> now can anyone explain to me why adept is split in 2 in kubuntu 8.10 and what the logic behind that is ?
[12:27] <ct529> JackWinter: I have no idea ....
[12:28] <ct529> Tm_T: how do you switch off pulseaudio?
[12:29] <Tm_T> ct529: well, easiest way: remove all pulseaudio related stuff from /etc/xdg/autorun/ and ~/.config/autorun
[12:31] <JackWinter> i find it very confusing to have 2 places for adept and then never knowing where i have to go to find what i need...
[12:32] <ct529> Tm_T: well .... maybe not the esiest way .... just a wya where I can go back!
[12:32] <Tm_T> ct529: you can move those items too if you don't like removing
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[12:39] <AndySpain> hi!
[12:40] <AndySpain> am new to kubuntu. and wanted to have my computer donate soem computation time to science. There's BOINC and i installed the BOINC via Synaptic (in Adept I could not find it). But I freezes my computer.
[12:40] <AndySpain> And I cannot start kubuntu most of them times.
[12:40] <AndySpain> Is there no stable version out there?
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[12:41] <carpii> check its not being blocked by firewall maybe?
[12:41] <AndySpain> I have no firewall installed
[12:42] <AndySpain> i tried it on easys - slackware based - and it worked flawlessly.
[12:42] <AndySpain> But easys had other issues, so I decided to give kubuntu i try
[12:43] <AndySpain> and here the boinc program also states that it may not work
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[12:43] <carpii> does it say why
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[12:43] <ct529> JackWinter: I do not like it either
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[12:44] <Sky2k8> hello
[12:44] <Sky2k8> i need helpf!
[12:44] <AndySpain> no, i says only it's still beta and might not work
[12:44] <AndySpain> from a live cd I can mount the easys partition and run its boinc from there. when i try the same from within kubuntu it says there is no boincmgr file but doing ls I see it there
[12:44] <Sky2k8> I've Xubuntu... and... i'm trying to install ATI-Drivers, but after restart i always get "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" etc.
[12:45] <AndySpain> it's not the most important task I wanna peroform on my system, but if there was a way to get it runnng it would be cool.
[12:45] <AndySpain> Maybe it's because it's 64 bit?
[12:45] <ct529> Tm_T: nothing in .config/autostart
[12:45] <ct529> Tm_T: plenty in /etc/xdg/autorun/
[12:46] <Tm_T> ct529: that's good, first means you are not infested by gnome
[12:47] <Sky2k8> no help? :/
[12:47] <AndySpain> Also I thought that on Kubuntu Adept is the main package management tool. But most packages I do not fin in adept, whereas I do find them in synaptic (jre, tor, boinc, ...)
[12:47] <AndySpain> am i mistaken?
[12:47] <Tm_T> ct529: from latter, move away pulseaudio related items
[12:49] <Sky2k8> Darf man hier auch deutsch reden?
[12:49] <jussi01> !de
[12:49] <ubottu> In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[12:49] <ockonal> hello all)
[12:49] <Sky2k8> thx
[12:49] <jussi01> Sky2k8: yw
[12:50] <AndySpain> two more things: 1 how can I have my computer sync its clock? I cklick on K-menu->Computer->Settings and click on Date and Time. There I enabled the sync thing, entered my pw and when I colose it and reopen it, it's disbaled again....
[12:50] <AndySpain> Why is that?
[12:52] <JackWinter> AndySpain: i am also confused.  in kubuntu 8.04 i have all in adept.  in 8.10 it has been split up and there are 2 adepts, seems one for system stuff and one for applications.  very confusing (at least to me)...
[12:52] <ct529> Tm_T: how does a gnome infestation work? lot of small red hatted beings in you .config?
[12:52] <AndySpain> JackWinter: And where to find the other adept?
[12:53] <ct529> JackWinter: one is just for managing source I think .... I moved to synaptic .... :)
[12:53] <AndySpain> so using synaptic under kubuntu is fine?
[12:53] <JackWinter> one is under applications->add/remove software, and the other is under applications-system->package manager.
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> AndySpain: it'll work fine, yeah
[12:54] <AndySpain> :-)
[12:54] <AndySpain> ok
[12:54] <JackWinter> AndySpain: i don't know, since i've only played with 8.10, but it appears i have installed synaptic on my laptop.  probably out of frustration :)
[12:55] <JackWinter> AndySpain: just be careful of gnome infestation :))
[12:55] <ct529> ndySpain: fine for me, it works great
[12:55] <ct529> JackWinter: yes, it works very well for me too (synaptic)
[12:55] <JackWinter> ok, bbl gotta see how a newer kernel works
[12:56] <JackWinter> but before i leave.  anyone know whay adept was split up like this ?  must be a reason for it...
[12:56] <AndySpain> ok, just tested:
[12:57] <AndySpain> the add/remove adept showns me a hell of stuff when I enter "tor" (wthout ""), but no tor client at all
[12:57] <AndySpain> the adept in programs->system  doesn not search anything at all. After entering 'tor' and hitting enter it simply does nothing
[12:58] <Tm_T> ct529: somehow just installing some particular gnome packages means that your KDE session then starts metacity amongst the other nasty ones
[12:58] <AndySpain> anyway, if synaptic works, I'll stick to that one. There I find everything I need
[12:58] <bazhang> apt-cache search tor in konsole
[12:58] <AndySpain> JackWinter: Good luck with the new kernel!  -11?
[12:59] <AndySpain> ok, thx bazhang!
[13:00] <DjFlyBy> seems everytime I try to install Kubuntu it installs fine, but upon reboot after the install it just goes to the grub screen. aNY IDEAS?
[13:00] <JackWinter> AndySpain: yes -11, any one know if it's easy to get a 2.6.28 kernel or do i have to compile it from sources myself ?
[13:00] <AndySpain> but why does kubuntu not remember it when I choose it to automatically syn with pool.ntp.org?
[13:01] <AndySpain> I only have -11
[13:02] <JackWinter> ok, bbl
[13:02] <AndySpain> see ya, Jack
[13:03] <ockonal> Hey, guys, which of u have kubuntu 9.10?
[13:03] <Tm_T> ockonal: there is no 9.10 yet
[13:03] <robin0800_> AndySpain: because you have to do sudo and it dosn't ask you can do kdesudo which will take but still won't be remembered
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[13:05] <ockonal> Tm_T: heh, really? Kubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
[13:05] <dotkom> what is a gud txt editor for kubuntu?
[13:05] <jtisme> my cursor inside X window is vertical bar elsewhere a red arrow tried changing it but remain vertical bar how can i make mouse cursor red arrow everywhere
[13:05] <ockonal> dotkom: Kate ;)
[13:05] <AndySpain> robin0800: so how do I do it that it will be remmebered?
[13:05] <DjFlyBy> seems everytime I try to install Kubuntu8.10 it installs fine, but upon reboot after the install it just goes to the grub screen. aNY IDEAS?
[13:05] <Tm_T> ockonal: most of us have 8.10 I believe, makes not much sense to ask that
[13:05] <AndySpain> it takes it already after asking for my pw. But it does not remember it
[13:05] <ockonal> Tm_T: ok, can u give me your sources list?
[13:05] <dotkom> k, kwl.
[13:06] <Tm_T> ockonal: no, not really, as it would be worthless for you (:
[13:06] <AndySpain> robin0800_: so how do I do it that it will be remmebered?  It already askes for my pw, but does not remember the setting
[13:06] <ockonal> Tm_t: hm.. Can u give? Just give it :)
[13:07] <Tm_T> ockonal: no I don't, sorry son
[13:07] <ockonal> Tm_T: ok :)
[13:07] <Tm_T> ockonal: but I believe the default one should be somewhere in the internets
[13:08] <robin0800_> AndySpain: best is run  kdesudo systemsettings but will not survive a reboot
[13:08] <ockonal> Tm_T: ok, thanks
[13:09] <AndySpain> robin0800_ so there is absolutely no way to have it permanently?
[13:09] <AndySpain> hmm, ok, thanks nontheless
[13:11] <AndySpain> robin0800_ now i did it they way you said and after clickin on Apply I get an error message stating "error setting system date/time/time zone"
[13:11]  * DjFlyBy wonders why his Kubuntu just goes to the "grub" after it completes the initial install onto the hdd. Does anyone know why this would be happening and what to do at this point?
[13:22] <gfather> so kubuntu is the same as ubuntu with kde right
[13:22] <gfather> but not allot of stuff changed ?
[13:24] <ockonal> gfather: yeah
[13:24] <JackWinter> more or less that yes.  except i think the gnome uses pulseadio which still isn't really in kde
[13:25] <gfather> i see ,
[13:25] <kaddi> hola :)
[13:25] <JackWinter> and of course kde installs alot of different apps than gnome, but that is part of the difference :)
[13:25] <gfather> well i want to set a nice environment for java development and such
[13:26] <gfather> yes , but somone told me that gnome apps can run on kde
[13:26] <gfather> though this will install allot of gnome stuff , will it effect kde ?
[13:28] <kaddi> !hi |kaddi
[13:28] <ubottu> kaddi, please see my private message
[13:28] <snuffmeister> hey
[13:29] <kaddi> i'm note even allowed to say hello to myself? :(
[13:29] <snuffmeister> needed quick install help, anyone there?
[13:29] <snuffmeister> what? lol
[13:30] <kaddi> snuffmeister : just joking ;)
[13:30] <snuffmeister> :P
[13:30]  * DjFlyBy wonders why his Kubuntu just goes to the "grub" after it completes the initial install onto the hdd. Does anyone know why this would be happening and what to do at this point?
[13:30] <JackWinter> gfather: i like kde, i also have some gnome apps installed.  some people say it's bad...  i don't know, but sometimes i have had some probs with kde, maybe because of gnome ??
[13:30] <snuffmeister> woah
[13:31] <snuffmeister> DjFlyBy: that happened to me right now but i'm gonna try to make a clean install of it
[13:31] <gfather> JackWinter hmm , well i dont want to set up everything , then the system go nuts couse i installed some gnome stuff
[13:31] <DjFlyBy> snuffmeister: this is my 4th attempt.... keeps happening every time
[13:32] <snuffmeister> anyway, i'm on an ubuntu 8.04 live cd right now but i've got the jaunty kubuntu daily build downloaded, and nothing to burn it on =(
[13:32] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , you have to choose your kernel wdition of kubuntu in grub to load the OS , usually the first in the grub menu list.
[13:32] <BluesKaj> edition
[13:32] <snuffmeister> is it possible to install from the image? as i'm on the live cd right now, and out of any hard disk installs, i thought it might work
[13:33] <snuffmeister> otherwise i'll just have to install ubuntu and then upgrade everything
[13:33] <JackWinter> gfather: i understand that :)  i think it works.  one problem i had was when my computer had crashed.  a gnome lock file coused a race condition.  the first time i reainstalled, the second time i fixed it.  now i have another problem with logging out hanging kdm, but that might as well have nothing to do with gnome...
[13:33] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: how does one do that?
[13:33] <gfather> JackWinter hmm
[13:34] <BluesKaj> use the tab key and then enter DjFlyBy
[13:35] <JackWinter> gfather: i honestly don't think gnome has anything to do with it.  and for java you can surely do it in a pure kde system.  if you need some gnome apps you could even run ubuntu in a vbox and use them there...:)
[13:35] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: all "Tab" does is bring up a list of possible commands
[13:35] <gfather> JackWinter yes
[13:36] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , do you still have the live cd in the drive ?
[13:36] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: nope
[13:37] <snuffmeister> uum, anyone?
[13:37] <gfather> <snuffmeister can you ask again
[13:37] <snuffmeister> yea
[13:37] <gfather> u have live cd ?
[13:37] <snuffmeister> it's just
[13:37] <snuffmeister> yes
[13:37] <snuffmeister> right now, ubuntu 8.04 live dvd
[13:38] <snuffmeister> that's where i'm on
[13:38] <gfather> why dont u install on high speed data stick
[13:38] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , what does grub look like ..is it a list , like a menu ?
[13:38] <snuffmeister> and i've downloaded the jaunty kubuntu daily build
[13:38] <gfather> then ull have ur ubunut
[13:38] <snuffmeister> yeah, right now i don't have usb drives or blank dvd's :P
[13:38] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj:    the screen looks like so -->      grub>
[13:38] <gfather> snuffmeistergo buy some
[13:39] <snuffmeister> i was trying to wing it
[13:39] <gfather> and hd are chep
[13:39] <snuffmeister> i know, lol
[13:39] <snuffmeister> i was just trying to know if it was possible
[13:39] <gfather> install 2nd hd and put anythng u want on it m and boot with grib :)
[13:39] <gfather> <snuffmeister whats possible ?
[13:39] <snuffmeister> laptop, actually, 2nd hd would be complicated
[13:40] <kaddi> would anyone advise against updating to jaunty now instead of april? i already have kde 4.2 running
[13:40] <snuffmeister> if it was possible to install the jaunty kubuntu daily build from the ubuntu 8.04 live cd
[13:40] <snuffmeister> considering i have the iso downloaded and on the windows hard drive
[13:40] <kaddi> are there any clashes between programs used in intrepid and the ones used in jaunty?
[13:40] <gfather> snuffmeister u can install ubunut under windows
[13:41] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj:    the screen looks like so -->      grub>
[13:41] <snuffmeister> i know, i did, but i had fedora 10 and deleted the partitions and now grub shows up empty
[13:41] <snuffmeister> it's a bit fubar
[13:41] <snuffmeister> but i was just wondering
[13:42] <gfather> <snuffmeister> formate hd and start all again : )
[13:42] <snuffmeister> forget it, thanks for the help
[13:42] <gfather> :D
[13:42] <snuffmeister> yea, trying to avoid that ;P
[13:42] <snuffmeister> lol
[13:42] <gfather> :)
[13:42] <snuffmeister> i'll just install 8.04 and update it all
[13:42] <gfather> yes
[13:42] <snuffmeister> it'll be the same, i guess
[13:42] <snuffmeister> problem is extra packages
[13:42] <snuffmeister> but i've got the space for it
[13:47] <nino> darkisin
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[13:54] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj:    the screen looks like so -->      grub>       but if I hit the Tab button it just gives me a list of possible commands to use inside of grub. commands like "background blocklist chainloader" etc...
[13:56] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy, so grub menu.lst wasn't installed , looks like you forgot to choose a bootloader when installing the OS
[13:59] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: well, thats where the problem lies then I guess, as I did choose the bootloader
[14:00] <BluesKaj> which bootloader did you choose grub otr LILO
[14:00] <BluesKaj> or
[14:02] <DjFlyBy> i chose grub
[14:02] <alfio> weeeeeeeee
[14:02] <alfio> ciao a tutti
[14:03] <Pici> !it | alfio
[14:03] <ubottu> alfio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
[14:03] <kar> is kde4 faster than 3.5.x as it is said to be? anyone have tryed?
[14:04] <JontheEchidna> It depends a lot on the hardware
[14:04] <JontheEchidna> with some hardware/drivers it's faster than kde 3.5, but for other configurations it's a bit slower
[14:04] <carpii> i wouldnt install it if youre relying it on being faster
[14:04] <carpii> in my experience it wasnt noticeably different tbh
[14:04] <bob__> well, as far as I know, kde 3.5 and kde 4, are very similar on the speed side
[14:05] <JontheEchidna> yeah, in my experience they are similar on the speed side
[14:05] <JontheEchidna> for my hardware/driver configuration
[14:05] <kar> anyway, are there in 4 a lot of tuning settings as in kde3? if there are i would try..
[14:06] <kar> i just do not want all these visual fx
[14:06] <carpii> ask yourself why you want to upgrade to 4 then
[14:06] <carpii> personally i tried it, hated it, and reinstalled 3.5
[14:06] <carpii> but some people love it
[14:06] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: I'm gonna try it one more time, but this will be my 5th attempt
[14:06] <bob__> I would say that you stick with 3.5 then, all I noticed on KDE 4  are visual effects and gadgets, 3.5 is by far more mature
[14:07] <carpii> its not really considered a finished product though
[14:07] <carpii> yup i agree
[14:07] <kar> that i also saw when i tried in summer an alpha edition
[14:07] <bob__> yes indeed
[14:07] <carpii> just be aware that upgrading to 4.1 from repositories seems to remove 3.5 and it seemed almost impossible to undo this and bring back 3.5
[14:07] <kar> i just waited for "off-tuning" options
[14:08] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy, no point in trying again , sounds like you need to redownload and install anew DL , make sure you do an md5 sum on the iso.
[14:08] <bob__> I'm testing 4.2 at this moment and it seems to be a little more robust, compared to 4.1
[14:08] <kar> thank you all guys
[14:09] <carpii> yeah 4.2 is apparently a lot more stable
[14:09] <carpii> i went to 4.1 from repo's, then up to 4.2
[14:09] <buckethead> 4.2 is much improved over 4.1.
[14:09] <carpii> but i didnt like the whole concept of plasma's and the start menu just seemed retarded still
[14:10] <bob__> well, u got that right carpii
[14:10] <bob__> I'm considering to go back to Ubuntu thou
[14:11] <bob__> I mean, KDE 4 looks great and is running just fine, it's just.....too flashy :P
[14:12] <carpii> hehe yea
[14:12] <carpii> i like how linux people say vista is just eye candy crap
[14:12] <bob__> hahahahaha
[14:12] <bob__> yes
[14:12] <carpii> and then they produce loads of kde skins called 'Vista' etc
[14:12] <bob__> exactly
[14:13] <kar> just to atract vista people maybe, but funny indeed
[14:13] <bob__> Vista is a good OS, I just don't like the idea that I can't tweak the thing the way I want
[14:14] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: well this iso passed the MD5 check, I suppose I could re-dl the iso, but the dvd iso takes forever, lol
[14:14] <BluesKaj> bob__ if you like vista then you'll like W7 even more
[14:14] <carpii> i think with vista they try to make it more usable for average joe, but it becomes less usable for techies
[14:14] <carpii> and the whole paranoid security thing was just a complete usability failure anyway :p
[14:15] <bob__> right
[14:15] <BluesKaj> !windows | carpii and bob__ and if you want to discuss windows
[14:15] <ubottu> carpii and bob__ and if you want to discuss windows: For discussion on Microsoft Windows, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents
[14:15] <carpii> ok relax, were done i think
[14:15] <bob__> there u go, we have just been lectured :P
[14:15] <carpii> :p
[14:16] <MarcoPau> hello, I have intrepid and I can't mount the cd. I have sda as ata hd, sdb as ide hd. dmesg | grep sd doesn't show anything related to the cd drive
[14:17] <bob__> did you try to put a cd into the drive?
[14:17] <MarcoPau> bob__: of course. it won't automount
[14:17] <bob__> humm
[14:17] <BluesKaj> carpii , we're relaxed ..it's a friendly reminder
[14:18] <bob__> how come that I can't watch video cds on any media player under linux?
[14:18] <MarcoPau> I fear there's a mess due to ata and ide devices coexisting, that's why I'm hacking to clone some partitions and eliminate the ide drive
[14:19] <carpii> ok blues, np :)
[14:20] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , then I suggest you reformat the partition or drive you intend to to use for linux ext3 with GParted
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !codecs | bob__
[14:22] <ubottu> bob__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:22] <bob__> ok, I will keep my mouth shut, Video Cds can be played with VLC :P
[14:22] <bob__> thx BluesKaj
[14:23] <ubuntu_> gyhjgjhjhgkkjkck
[14:24] <BluesKaj> bob__, there are some who prefer to use other players but I agree that VLC does a good job
[14:24] <bob__> indeed
[14:25] <bob__> I like (k)ubuntu, the community is awesome
[14:28] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: hmmm I wonder if it could be soo simple.... I remember during the install it thinks my Primary Master hdd is actually sdb  when in fact shouldn't it be sda
[14:29] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: so if that is the case then shouldn't grub actually be installed to (hd1) instead of (hd0) .. to ensure it gets installed to the Primary Master hdd ?
[14:32] <JackWinter> is there a way to install a 2.6.28 kernel on kubuntu 8.10 ?  from backports ?
[14:36] <martinez> --
[14:37] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , do you have an old windows rescue partition on the HDD ?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , if so then I'd resize to the same size as your RAM, and use it as the swap
[14:39] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , unless of cours you want to dual boot windows and linux
[14:39] <dedecius> hallo alle zusammen
[14:42] <JackWinter> !kernel
[14:42] <ubottu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages
[14:43] <JackWinter> !backports
[14:43] <ubottu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[14:44] <BluesKaj> JackWinter , what are you trying to do ?
[14:44] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: nope the hdd is clean, nothing on it previously. there's 2 other drives in the box but they are storage drives
[14:45] <JackWinter> i'd like to try a 2.6.28 kernel without using the alpha
[14:45] <JackWinter> BluesKaj: or maybe better said i'd like to boot kubuntu 8.10 with a 2.6.28 kernel
[14:48] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: however Kubuntu is seeing my drives as such -->  Primary Master = sdb :: Secondary Master = sda :: Secondary Slave = sdc
[14:48] <JackWinter> think i'm gonna have to compile it myself...
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[14:50] <BluesKaj> JackWinter , http://www.kernel.org/
[14:51] <Pici> !kernel
[14:51] <ubottu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages
[14:52] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy, maybe you have the jumpers set incorrectly on one drive
[14:55] <elizabeth> goog morning guys i like to ask 4 ur help i am so new on this there is this friend that installed kubuntu on my compaq v3000 laptop everything was just fine but suddendly i gotno more wireless signal, is lost it use to have ir but since saturday i got nothing and i really dont know how to fix this and the biggest problem is that my friend is out of town can any1 helpme out pls to fix thisno wireless internet
[15:00] <ct529> elizabeth: is the wireless card switched on?
[15:00] <elizabeth> yes and the ligth turn red it use to be blue
[15:01] <DjFlyBy> BluesKaj: jumpers are correct
[15:01] <ct529> elizabeth: red .... is the wireless roter switched on?
[15:01] <ct529> elizabeth: router not roter
[15:01] <elizabeth> yes it is switched on
[15:02] <ct529> elizabeth: are you logged in?
[15:02] <elizabeth> no look my laptop has this little button to swith on or off the wireless connection
[15:02] <AndySpain> can anybody help me setting up my wifi?
[15:02] <ct529> elizabeth: yes, but to test you must be logged on
[15:02] <elizabeth> how do i do that??
[15:03] <ct529> elizabeth: is the laptop on? have you entered your username and password?
[15:03] <elizabeth> yes
[15:03] <ct529> ok .... open a konsole
[15:03] <elizabeth> i am using it right now but i am using ethernet connection
[15:03] <ct529> elizabeth: ok .... open a konsole
[15:03] <bob__> Installing CoD4 at this very moment with the latest version of Wine, lets see how it goes :)
[15:03] <elizabeth> ok that i now is open
[15:03] <giarca> how I can take the cpu at 100% for a test? I know there is a command using /dev/null or like.
[15:04] <ct529> elizabeth: write ifconfig then enter and pastebin the result
[15:04] <BluesKaj> DjFlyBy , well something is amiss if you're primary drive is seen as sdb , not sda.
[15:04] <giarca> pheraps /dev/urandom in /dev/null...
[15:04] <giarca> damn, I don't remember...
[15:05] <elizabeth> theres a lot of stuff should i just copy it and past it in here ct529?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !paste
[15:05] <ubottu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:05] <ct529> elizabeth: use pastebin, as I said
[15:06] <BluesKaj> ct529 , some newcomers don't know about pastebin
[15:06] <ct529> elizabeth: go here with your browser http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output
[15:07] <elizabeth> how do i do that ct529?? i amsorry but like i said i am so new and theres bunch of stuff i dont know is like another lenguage
[15:07] <ct529> elizabeth: go here with your browser http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output
[15:07] <elizabeth> ok let me do it
[15:07] <ct529> elizabeth: sorry, I am in a rush .... I have to go to offic ein few minutes, I would not be so pushy normally
[15:09] <ct529> elizabeth: done? there should be a wlan0 line ....
[15:09] <elizabeth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/118857/
[15:09] <elizabeth> there thats what i got
[15:10] <manne> ciao a tutti da manne
[15:10] <BluesKaj> !it | manne
[15:10] <ubottu> manne: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
[15:10] <elizabeth> but c529 i dont c any line like that
[15:10] <ct529> elizabeth: it looks like you have 2 ethernet cards running .... that is weird
[15:11] <ct529> elizabeth: what do you see in network manager? there is a small icon in the bottom right corner of you screen
[15:11] <ct529> elizabeth: that looks like a network plug
[15:11] <elizabeth> not even that
[15:11] <BluesKaj> or a globe
[15:11] <ct529> elizabeth: or a globe
[15:12] <elizabeth> globe is green
[15:12] <ct529> elizabeth: if you go on it with the mouse, and you hover, it should tell you which interfaces are connected
[15:12] <ct529> elizabeth: if you go on it, then click the right button of the mouse, it should let you configure the net
[15:12] <elizabeth> it says eth0 and eth1
[15:13] <ct529> elizabeth: both active?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> elizabeth that means you have a dhcp(wired) connection
[15:13] <elizabeth> eth1 active eth0 down
[15:13] <ct529> elizabeth: ok! that sounds more right ....
[15:13] <kaddi> !iso
[15:13] <ubottu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:14] <ct529> elizabeth: now click on the right button of the mouse whilst you hover on the icon
[15:14] <elizabeth> ok the network right and what do i do?
[15:14] <ct529> elizabeth: chose "New connection" and then "eth0"
[15:15] <elizabeth> ok now theres this little window open
[15:15] <ct529> elizabeth: what does it say?
[15:15] <elizabeth> new connection
[15:15] <elizabeth> little box that says use manual IP configuration
[15:15] <ct529> elizabeth: yes, enter new connection, and choose "eth0"
[15:15] <elizabeth> and the rest is gray
[15:16] <ct529> elizabeth: that is strange
[15:16] <elizabeth> ok if i click on the use IP config
[15:16] <ct529> elizabeth: what do you see if you go on deactivate connection
[15:16] <elizabeth> everything turns black
[15:16] <BluesKaj> ct529, she has to disconnect the dhcp before her wireless option will be available
[15:16] <elizabeth> and is asking me for ip address
[15:16] <ct529> BluesKaj: yes, I suppose
[15:16] <elizabeth> netmask, gateway dns addresses and dns search
[15:17] <ct529> BluesKaj: but I do not udnerstand why she has 2 interfaces, none of which is wireless
[15:17] <Oripor> Hi I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 and synaptic package manager isn't installed. How do I install it?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> well, I know this from my wifes' laptop
[15:17] <elizabeth> if i deactivate it everything turns gray again
[15:17] <ct529> elizabeth: forget about it .... :)
[15:17] <elizabeth> ok
[15:17] <BluesKaj> elizabeth , do you have a LAN or WAN connection option
[15:17] <ct529> BluesKaj: could you help him/her?  Ineed to go back to town!
[15:18] <ct529> BluesKaj: thanks!
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ok ct529 , have fun :)
[15:18] <elizabeth> hey listen my friend toldme that u guys r very friendly and helpful so would u mind taking control over my laptop and c whats wrong pls can u do that pls???
[15:18] <Oripor> Why would I not have synaptic package manager available after a fresh install?
[15:18] <elizabeth> i think i use lan
[15:18] <elizabeth> i am not sure
[15:19] <slhk> Oripor: sudo spt-get install synaptic
[15:19] <Oripor> thx
[15:19] <slhk> Oripor: because in kubuntu the package manager is adept
[15:20] <BluesKaj> elizabeth , no we don't take control of ppls machines , but we usually stick with the person to help them walk thru the issue 'til it's solved
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok elizabeth . LAN it is , that will be your wireless connection to your router
[15:20] <elizabeth> ok my problem is that i have no wireless connection i use to but somehow it got lost and the indicator light in my laptop turned red it use to be blue
[15:22] <BluesKaj> elizabeth , make sure your wireless is enabled on your router , maybe it got turned off somehow.
[15:24] <kaddi> i'm playing with desktop effects in plasma. and right now i am playing with effects on selected/deselected windows.
[15:25] <kaddi> i also use "activate window under cursor after 750ms"
[15:26] <kaddi> the effects for deselected windows are immediatly applied when i move the cursor away from a window, instead of deselcting the window at the same time a new window is selected
[15:26] <kaddi> (hope i'm getting through to anyone XD )
[15:26] <kaddi> is there a way to get the effects for deselected windows applied only after a certain amount of time
[15:27] <kaddi> (i do not think, that it is a problem with my graphiccard. if i select a window by mouseclick all effects are immediately applied correctly)
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[15:31] <Oripor> How do I get the 3D cube and desktop effects in Kubuntu 8.04?
[15:32] <AndySpain> how do i make a screenshot in kubuntu?
[15:33] <AndySpain> on ubuntu there was an app for that
[15:33] <carpii> graphics -> ksnapshot
[15:33] <AndySpain> ah, ok
[15:33] <AndySpain> thank you carpii
[15:33] <carpii> np
[15:33] <AndySpain> another question: I started amarok and since it started it changed my panel
[15:34] <carpii> in what way did it change your panel?
[15:34] <AndySpain> now all the icons that used to be on the right are in the middle
[15:34] <carpii> ok the icons are sitting on a toolbar that can be moved
[15:34] <carpii> try right clicking on a blank area near the icons, and choose unlock panels
[15:34] <carpii> then you can reposition them, and lock them again if you want
[15:34] <AndySpain> and the cloco is not very much on the right margin anymore. Cannot movethem there as their defaultspaces have increased
[15:35] <carpii> ah it depends what version of kde youre using i guess
[15:35] <AndySpain> carpii: right, but this repositioning has fixed spaces to position them, and they are too big now.
[15:35] <AndySpain> I did not change the kde version and before starting amarok it was ok
[15:35] <carpii> yes, but im not familiar with kde 4.x really :p
[15:35] <carpii> im only talking about kde 3.5
[15:36] <AndySpain> I can reposition the icons in a way that their order changes, but the space respeverd by the clock if it's on the right, goes until the middle.
[15:36] <Oripor> I just installed Kubuntu and it's supposed to have Desktop Special Effects built in. Where can I enable 3D Cube and other effects?
[15:36] <carpii> Andy, i dont really understand :/
[15:36] <AndySpain> Thus the other icons like active programs are in the middle or right of the clock, if i resposition them, and then the clock is in the middle
[15:36] <kaddi> wine just killed my xserver :D where would i look for clues as of why it did this
[15:37] <AndySpain> is there a place I can send you a screenshot?
[15:37] <carpii> try imageshack.us
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[15:39] <Oripor> How can I find information about how to enable 3D Cube and other settings?
[15:40] <carpii> !compiz
[15:40] <ubottu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:40] <carpii> there
[15:41] <AndySpain> carpii: http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto1qk8.png
[15:41] <Oripor> I thought in the new Kubuntu / KDE you didn't have to use Compiz because the Desktop Special Effects were already "built in" upon install???
[15:41] <carpii> hm its not a very good article
[15:42] <AndySpain> carpii: and after repositioning: http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto2ew8.png
[15:42] <AndySpain> as you see it does not look quite nice
[15:42] <carpii> ok youre using kde 4.x, i dont know how to fix that sorry
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[15:43] <AndySpain> and I _cannot_ change the spacing or absolute positions, only the relative positions. KDE 4.1
[15:43] <AndySpain> ah, ok
[15:43] <carpii> ok, you might like to upgrade to kde 4.2
[15:43] <AndySpain> how do i upgrade?
[15:43] <carpii> 4.1 had lots of these sort of problems afaik
[15:43] <AndySpain> am new
[15:43] <carpii> see url in topic
[15:43] <AndySpain> 4.2 has not?
[15:43] <AndySpain> ok
[15:43] <AndySpain> thank you
[15:44] <carpii> well i heard 4.2 fixes a lot of things
[15:44] <slhk> Oripor: right click on the title bar of a window
[15:44] <slhk> Oripor: and choose "configure windo behaviour"
[15:45] <slhk> Oripor: in the desktop effects select the "all effects" tab
[15:46] <Oripor> Ok thanks, though I still don't see anything about a 3D Cube
[15:47] <slhk> Oripor: it's called "desktop cube", in the "window management" section, I think that's what you look for
[15:48] <Oripor> slhk: Yea I just don't have an option for it. Maybe I need to get different Video Drivers installed or something.
[15:50] <slhk> Oripor: actually it may have been introduced with kde4.2 and you may still not have it depending on which version you are running
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[15:57] <somekool> is evolution the only mail client under linux start supports exchange ?
[15:58] <carpii> i think kmail does too
[15:58] <carpii> for kde
[16:10] <b_frank> hi
[16:10] <b_frank> I have a video card,asus en6200le which can only use nv driver,with any nvidia driver screen is black.please help
[16:11] <kaddi> hi, anyone got anno1701 to work on linux?
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[16:13] <austin> I'm trying to install songbird, tar.gz...i need some help with install
[16:15] <ockonal> austin: what help?
[16:17] <AndySpain> what's the transparent thing on dekstop called?
[16:17] <AndySpain> It has vanished
[16:17] <AndySpain> If I new it's name, maybe I could add it again
[16:17] <AndySpain> kde 4.1.4
[16:17] <austin> nvm
[16:20] <AndySpain> nvm is the name? or are talking about another topic?
[16:20] <austin> no, i mean nvm i don't need hlep,
[16:20] <austin> sorry for the confusion
[16:20] <AndySpain> hehe, ok
[16:21] <AndySpain> but maybe you can tell me what the transparent window on the desktop is called
[16:21] <AndySpain> because mine just disappeared
[16:23] <austin> oh that?
[16:24] <austin> um, did it say like, "Desktop" in the corner?
[16:24] <austin> I beleave thats just a folder widget, gimi a sec lemmi look
[16:25] <austin> AndySpain: ok go the the top corner, click on unlcok widegets> then add widget
[16:25] <austin> Anyspain: scroll around untill you find a folder view widget, drag on drop onto your desktop
[16:26] <AndySpain> I don't remmeber what it said. I just installed kubuntu yesternight
[16:26] <austin> then click the wrench icon next to it, which appears when you hover the cursor over the widget.  then point to your desktop folder
[16:26] <AndySpain> ok
[16:26] <AndySpain> folder view
[16:26] <austin> mhm
[16:27] <carpii> does anyone find their internet connection slows down after running ktorrent, even after its quit ?
[16:27] <AndySpain> austin: cool, yea. that was it
[16:27] <AndySpain> though it used to be empty, now it has my home folder
[16:27] <AndySpain> thank you austin
[16:27] <austin> AndySpane: click ont he wrench icon, and the little folder icon in the new window
[16:28] <austin> go to home/YOUUSERNAME/Deskto
[16:28] <austin> *desktop
[16:28] <austin> it will display your desktop contents then
[16:39] <austin> can anyone help me with a songbird install?
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[16:48] <hoppel118> Hallo
[16:49] <hoppel118> Was kann man hier machen?
[16:49] <hoppel118> bin das erste mal in so nem irc
[16:49] <ockonal> !de
[16:49] <ubottu> In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[16:49] <ockonal> :)
[16:50] <JackWinter> how do i get wine in my kmenu on 8.10 ?
[16:50] <ockonal> sudo apt-get install wine
[16:50] <ockonal> or u've already installed?
[16:50] <JackWinter> ockonal: i did install it, but it doesn't appear in kmenu ?
[16:51] <ockonal> Try to reboot
[16:51] <hoppel118> i think restatin x is enough
[16:51] <hoppel118> strg + alt + backspace
[16:52] <ockonal> Yeah
[16:52] <hoppel118> restarting X was ment
[16:52] <vbgunz> anyone use screen and vim? why doesn't home and end map to ^ and $ anymore? do I have to map them myself? they both seem to capitalize the next letter. why, how to fix?
[16:52] <JackWinter> ockonal: i've even uninstalled 1.1.14, clean and purged, and then reinstalled 1.0.1...  ok i'll try to relogin...
[16:52] <noaXess> grrr.. sometimes i can't write anything.. keyboard won't work on my notebook... i need to logout, restart X and login to KDE 4.2 then thekeyboard and all shortcuts are ok..
[16:52] <noaXess> any idea whats happend?
[16:52] <ockonal> noaXess: after updating to kde 4.2?
[16:53] <noaXess> jep..
[16:53] <ockonal> noeXess: ok, just try this:
[16:53] <noaXess> sometimes i can work days.. and today it happends twice
[16:53] <noaXess> ockonal: have you the same problem?
[16:53] <ockonal> hoaXess: rm -r ~/.kde
[16:53] <ockonal> noaXess: yes, i had this problem after updating kde 4.2
[16:54] <ockonal> noaXess: but save your data!
[16:54] <noaXess> ockonal: and then.. i loose all my settings..
[16:54] <ockonal> noaXess: yeah
[16:54] <noaXess> ockonal: you work also on a notebook, laptop?
[16:54] <ockonal> noaXess: sudo aptitude purge kwin && sudo install kwin
[16:55] <noaXess> ockonal: hm.. thats a really strange solution..
[16:55] <JackWinter> nope no wine in kmenu...
[16:55] <noaXess> ockonal: is there no information what exactly happend, if keyboard won't work?..
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[16:58] <vinci_> How can i install koffice for kde4.2?
[16:58] <JackWinter> anyone here have wine installed in 8.10 ?
[16:58] <rytmenpinnen> Hey, can you still update kubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04?
[16:59] <hoppel118> yes I
[16:59] <noaXess> JackWinter: i use crossover linux for that
[16:59] <ockonal> noaXess: just kde-bug
[16:59] <ockonal> vinci_: sudo apt-get install koffice
[16:59] <noaXess> ockonal: you mean place a bug :)
[16:59] <ockonal> noxXess: :) Just do that
[16:59] <hoppel118> may be remove it first
[16:59] <noaXess> !info koffice | vinci_
[16:59] <ubottu> koffice (source: koffice): KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-6ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 19 kB, installed size 60 kB
[16:59] <vinci_> ockonal: but there is an error
[16:59] <ockonal> rytmenpinnen: yes, just add need repo
[16:59] <hoppel118> sudo apt-get remove wine
[17:00] <rytmenpinnen> need repo?
[17:00] <vinci_> ubottu: I can't install koffice 1.6.3
[17:00] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:00] <JackWinter> hoppel118: i've done that already...
[17:00] <hoppel118> and then reinstall with "sudo apt-get install wine" or use synaptic
[17:00] <noaXess> ockonal: but my problem.... where can i find log entries where i can see what's happends if this occurs.. in /var/log/messages i can't find anything
[17:01] <JackWinter> hoppel118: ok, i'll try again...
[17:02] <ockonal> noaXess: really, i can't remember. But i know, that almost all user have this bug after updating :)
[17:03] <JackWinter> hoppel118: didn't help...
[17:04] <noaXess> ockonal: i had it also on kde4.1 update.. hm.. lot to do, if i delete .kde.. ok.. will be the last chance ;)
[17:05] <JackWinter> noaXess: don't know exactly what your problem is, but instead of deleting .kde you could set a different KDEHOME or create another user to login with.  no need to delete .kde when the problem is elsewhere...
[17:05] <hoppel118> sorry, i dont know, i have it running with kubuntu 8.10 and kde 4.2 without any probs
[17:05] <carpii> at the very least you should move .kde to .kdeold rather than deleting it
[17:06] <carpii> you might regret it otherwise
[17:06] <noaXess> JackWinter: i see.. if i need to delete .kde, i will first backup it... i do that all night ;)
[17:06] <noaXess> carpii: jep.. my words ;)
[17:06] <carpii> :)
[17:06] <JackWinter> hoppel118: and you get a wine menu in your kmenu ?
[17:06] <hoppel118> yes, i have
[17:06] <hoppel118> i have to go, bye, sorry
[17:07] <noaXess> ok.. see ya all.. dinner time..
[17:08] <JackWinter> noaXess: for a quick check you can ctrl-alt-f1 to start a new virtual terminal.  set kdehome to something like .kde2  and then run startx -- :3  which will open a new session on ctrl-alt-f9
[17:14] <AndySpain> what's the linux comamnd to move a directory with subrdirectories?  (not copy, but cut and paste)
[17:16] <fosco__> AndySpain, mv
[17:16] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, sudo cp -r folder /dir/where/youwantit
[17:16] <vinci_> When i follow the guide on kubuntu, I installed KDE4.2, and koffice2.0 beta.
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[17:17] <AndySpain> fosco__ BluesKaj thx.   I deduce mv -r  ?
[17:17] <AndySpain> or don't i need -r for mv?
[17:18] <vinci_> but there is an error that koffice-data-kde4, cant cover the file from kde-icons-oxygen
[17:18] <vinci_> so how can i force install?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> ah AndySpain, yeah that should work
[17:19] <freedom_dan> Hi People, Has anybody here any experience with setting up a multiseat system (by this I mean, I want to be able to attach two keyboards and two mice & two monitors to the ONE PC, and have two people be able to use the one PC at the SAME time, each person would use one monitor, and have their own mouse and keyboard...)
[17:20] <AndySpain> thx
[17:20] <freedom_dan> it seems to be very tricky to set up :/
[17:20] <freedom_dan> especially if you are new to Linux like me :)
[17:22] <jtisme> my mouse cursor is a vertical bar in x windows can change it any ideas
[17:22] <jtisme> i want the arrow head as mouse cursor
[17:23] <freedom_dan> if anybody is interested you can read a little about it here: http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/14-Multiseat-X-Under-X11R6.97.0.html
[17:27] <freedom_dan> LOL, it does seem to hard to set up, that two users can use the one pc at the same time... almost impossible to find somebody who know how to do it... oh well...
[17:35] <florian__> Hallo, wie gehts?
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[17:36] <florian__> kennst sich jemand mit cups-pdf aus?
[17:36] <Tm_T> !de | florian__
[17:36] <ubottu> florian__: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.
[17:37] <florian__> achso, danke (mein interface ist halt in deutsch, deshalb dachte ich...)
[17:40] <AndySpain> ok with su I can change the user in termianl. but that onyl affects the terminal. Can I change the user and his/her priviledges for allt the login (KDE) without loggin out and in?
[17:44] <AndySpain> and how can I make kubuntu automatically mount sda1?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, ktorrent 3.2 is totally worth getting
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> http://debian.mirror.inra.fr/debian/pool/main/k/ktorrent/ some debs there
[17:54] <Tm_T> ofcourse, those packages doesn't have "ubuntu warranty" (;)
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: ubuntu doesnt have a warranty either
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> :D
[17:56] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: I know, but you know what I meant
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> i do thats what makes it funny
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> i'd reccomnd it personally though
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> theres even a plasmoid that goes with it if you are into that
[17:59] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: aye (I got that stuff from svn)
[18:01] <dotkom_> Hi Peeps. I am running 8.10 KDE 4.2 & compiz but i cannot set more than 2 desktops? Any1 help?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> dotkom_: in nccsm search for desktop
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> ccsm*
[18:03] <AndySpain> on a multiuser sytem: can I  grant internet access for other users but prevent them from installing software, even adobe flash or things the like?
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[18:03] <AndySpain> and prevent them from accesssing other user's directories?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: if they arent part of the admin group they cant do stuff with gk/sudo
[18:04] <AndySpain> actually they should only have acces to their own home directory
[18:04] <AndySpain> ok, but for installing adobe flashplayer do you need sudo??
[18:05] <chris-rc1> hi
[18:05] <chris-rc1> can anybody receive files from a bluetooth device via kbluetooth??
[18:06] <dotkom_> nope i have tried
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> dotkom_: in general, desktop size, change to 4 instead of 2
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: for installing anything you ned sudo. Set it all up as the sudo account and then view it as the normal user
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> chris-rc1: I've recieved but not sent
[18:08] <spud-> hello
[18:08] <spud-> someone who can help me with dd?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> spud-: can you be specific
[18:09] <chris-rc1> ActionParsnip: you can receive files from a phone?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> chris-rc1: yeah, thats what i use it for
[18:09] <spud-> the dd-command, when low-level copying
[18:10] <chris-rc1> ActionParsnip: how do you do that? i can only send files to my phone
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> chris-rc1: make sure the kbluetooth says discoverble, you may also want to review the conf file to say discoverable too
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> chris-rc1: its really REALLY flakey
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> chris-rc1: bit hit and miss at best
[18:12] <AndySpain> ActionParsnip:  I just tried: user cannot write except in his home dir. BUT he can read the other home directories.
[18:12] <AndySpain> Can't i prevent that?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: then: sudo chown -R <username> /home/<username>; sudo chmod -R 755 /home/<username>
[18:13] <spud-> ActionParsnip: I have done a dd low level copy on my hard drive. After finished I don't get in to work in my other computer. What can I have done wrong?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: that will transfer the folder to the restricted user. You will have to be the sudo account
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> spud-: if you dd from drive to drive you may not have written grub over
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> !grub | spud-
[18:14] <ubottu> spud-: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:15] <AndySpain> ActionParsnip: sudo chown -R restricteduser /home/restricteduser; sudo chmod -R 755 /home/restricteduser   - this makes that restricted user cannot have read access to other user's home directories?
[18:15] <spud-> ActionParsnip: I only have a live boot cd (it's at my work)
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> spud-: im guessing by "doesnt work" you mean "doesnt boot"
[18:15] <fidji> pour le français c'est pas compliqué dans synaptic tape le mot clef language
[18:15] <Tm_T> !fr | fidji
[18:15] <ubottu> fidji: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
[18:16] <spud-> ActionParsnip: It doesn't happen anything, it doesn't even try to boot
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: no, it means it will have full access to the folder and subfolders from /home/restricteduser
[18:16] <fidji> Tm_T:  sorry, it's a mistake
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: if you use sudo chmod -R 700 then no other user will have access to the folder except the owner
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[18:17] <AndySpain> ActionParsnip: But he already has access to his own directory. But also has read acceess to other user's home. And that's what I want him NOT to have.
[18:17] <AndySpain> he's only in his private group
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> spud-: make sure bios is pointing to it and make sure grub is installed
[18:18] <AndySpain> ah, ok. ActionParsnip: So I must apply chmod -R 700 to all other home directories?
[18:18] <spud-> ActionParsnip: Bios is ok, but I don't understand what grub is? It's a windows system i'm trying to low level copy
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: you need to run 700 on all the home folder you dont want anyone else to access to
[18:18] <AndySpain> thank you, ActionParsnip
[18:19] <AndySpain> :-)
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: first number is owner, 2nd is eveyone in the same groups, 3rd is everyone else
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: check out chmod + chown in detail and you can restrict / allow access
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[18:21] <ActionParsnip> spud-: then you will need to install the windows bootloader as it wont have been copied
[18:22] <spud-> ActionParsnip: Don't have been copied? Do you know how to copy this?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> spud-: i dont know how, ask in ##windows, the xp cd can be used to write a new boot sector
[18:25] <spud-> ok thank you ActionParsnip
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> is there a way to install firefox without the branding package + tonne of gnome stuff
[18:33] <AndySpain> Can i take certain programs out of the Kmenu for other users?
[18:33] <AndySpain> eg: If someone tells me he will only work with it and not chat, can I quit kopete from his kmenu, without globally uninstalling it?
[18:35] <elizabeth> hi guys my name is Elizabeth, i have a friendthat installed on my laptop compaq presario v3000 a system kubuntu intrepid he said, everything was nice, but since saturday somehow i lost connection to internet by wireless, i really need it, he told me that u guys r friendly and helpful, can somebody help me out to fix itpls i am so new on this, he is out of town so i dont know how to get back my wireless connection pls somebody
[18:35] <elizabeth> help??????????????'
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: not sure on that one dude, Im not usre how the menu is managed
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: if you run lspci and lsusb you can see what wifi it is and websearch from there
[18:36] <AndySpain> you have already been a lot of help, ActionParsnip. Thank you
[18:36] <elizabeth> hi guys my name is Elizabeth, i have a friendthat installed on my laptop compaq presario v3000 a system kubuntu intrepid he said, everything was nice, but since saturday somehow i lost connection to internet by wireless, i really need it, he told me that u guys r friendly and helpful, can somebody help me out to fix itpls i am so new on this, he is out of town so i dont know how to get back my wireless connection pls somebody
[18:36] <elizabeth> help??????????????'' sorry but this is a lenaguage i really dont know
[18:37] <elizabeth> what dou mean with run??
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: in konsole
[18:38] <elizabeth> ok
[18:38] <AndySpain> The reason I'm asking is that I have a laptop and my room mate ALWAYS wants to use it. But I'm kinda against that. But if she needs it, ok. I give it to her. But I don't want her to see my personal files or have the laptop runnung all night for chatting or watching stupid manga videos online for hours....  (therefore, the kopete question, the adobe flashplayer question, etc.)
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: one line will identify the device
[18:38] <infocentro> fala cambada
[18:40] <elizabeth> there is nothing saying wifi
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[18:41] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: look for words like 802.11 / broadco etc
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> *broadcom
[18:41] <elizabeth> no such words ActionParsnip
[18:42] <gfather> hello guys
[18:42] <gfather> just installed a kubuntu
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: is it an internal device or usb?
[18:42] <elizabeth> internal
[18:42] <gfather> how to activate the 3d effect
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: ok then lspci will show the device
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> gfather: have you installed video card drivers?
[18:43] <gfather> ActionParsnip not yet
[18:43] <kriox> there is a channell for samba?
[18:44] <kriox> ! samba
[18:44] <ubottu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
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[18:44] <elizabeth> ActionParsnip not even with that
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> gfather: lspci | grep -i vga
[18:44] <elizabeth> i dont c those words
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: then its not enabled / turned on
[18:44] <avihayb> I connected a digital camera to my computer, it's one of those cameras that dosen't look like a mass storage device. I configured it in the control pannle camera thingy. now what?
[18:45] <gfather> ActionParsnip do i do that , or install the ati driver
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> gfather: run that command the read
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !ati | gfather
[18:46] <gfather> oks
[18:46] <ubottu> gfather: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> avihayb: does it show up in digikam ?
[18:46] <avihayb> I guess i need to istall digikam then
[18:47] <elizabeth> it is turn on look my laptop compaq presario v3000 has 1 yr old it has this button with a light indicator it use to be blue with windos, when my friend put this new system it was the same but i dont know what happen last saturday i turned on my laptop and the indicator button is red since then
[18:47] <gfather> ActionParsnip it shows 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300(PCIE)]
[18:47] <elizabeth> and i got no wireless connection
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> gfather: cool, check the link ubottu gave
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: if its not showing up in lspci its not turned on, what make / model lapto pis it
[18:51] <elizabeth> compaq presario V3000
[18:51] <elizabeth> and it is turn on
[18:51] <elizabeth> that is forsure
[18:53] <ngranek> is there a way to make the KDE 4.2 virtual desktop not wrap around? i mean, if i'm in the leftmost desktop and press the rotate left keyboard shortcut, i want the desktop to ignore it and stay in that desktop, instead of wrapping to the rightmost desktop
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: looks like it has a broadcom wifi
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: do younot see BCM43xx
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: or Broadcom
[18:53] <elizabeth> and it is turn on'
[18:54] <elizabeth> u mean on konsole?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: Broadcom BCM4311 KFB
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: yes in konsole
[18:54] <elizabeth> nop dont c that on konsole
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[18:57] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: try switching the wifi off and on with the switch
[18:58] <elizabeth> done but still red light
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: ok then read: dmesg | tail
[19:02] <elizabeth> no broadcom or wifi words either
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: does it say that the adapter was brought up ok
[19:03] <avihayb> ActionParsnip: ok, it works with digikam. thanks. but it forced me to downgrade to libkipi. any solution for that?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: i'd reboot and read dmesg all the way through
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> avihayb: i dont use it but i guess there'll be a guide some place
[19:04] <avihayb> not wwaht I asked
[19:04] <avihayb> what
[19:04] <elizabeth> and it is turn on:
[19:04] <elizabeth> elizabeth@Elizabeth:~$ dmesg | tail
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   28.369814] Bluetooth: SCO (Voice Link) ver 0.6
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   28.369820] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   29.000072] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -95354447 ns)
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   30.902883] NVRM : nv_acpi_nvif_method : NVIF data invalid. function d subFunction 0
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   32.862226] eth0: no link during initialization.
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   32.986527] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   37.718241] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   37.722328] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   37.724822] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[19:04] <elizabeth> [   48.136049] eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[19:04] <elizabeth> elizabeth@Elizabeth:~$
[19:05] <elizabeth> ActionParsnip there is what it says
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: use pastebin for large pastes so you dont scroll the screen
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: if you reboot then run: dmesg | less
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: then you can watch your devices come up
[19:08] <elizabeth> ok lets reboot and let u know
[19:08] <elizabeth> thx
[19:08] <altrortla> hello............. what is this ? I'm trying to access at smb.conf .... and this is what i got...
[19:08] <altrortla> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 1 <<<
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: what command did you run to get the error?
[19:09] <olewolf> altrortla: that's possibly rather bad. Do you see the contents of the sudoers file if you type "sudo cat /etc/sudoers" (followed by your password when prompted)?
[19:09] <altrortla> moreover if i try to access at system >>> setting .... when i need to have amministrative privileges , noting appens
[19:10] <altrortla> i have done ... suodo vim smb.conf
[19:10] <altrortla> sudo
[19:10] <olewolf> altrortla: never mind the smb.conf file for now; it looks like your sudoers file might be broken, which is pretty bad.
[19:11] <altrortla> sudo cat /etc/sudoers
[19:11] <altrortla> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 1 <<<
[19:11] <altrortla> AZZ
[19:11] <altrortla> what should i do?
[19:12] <olewolf> altrortla: ouch. You'll probably need to boot from a rescue CD and repair the sudoers file. And, that's hoping it's just the sudoers file that is broken.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: try: kdesudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:12] <olewolf> ActionParsnip: if the sudoers file is broken, that won't work either.
[19:13] <altrortla> kdesudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:13] <altrortla> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 1 <<<
[19:13] <altrortla> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 1
[19:13] <altrortla> ok from cd .... what should i do?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: http://pastebin.com/f263dedc6
[19:15] <olewolf> Well, er... if you don't know, then it might be a little complicated. You'll have to somehow edit the sudoers file and replace the contents with the pastebin contents that ActionParsnip showed you.
[19:15] <olewolf> Do you have any idea what happened to break the sudoers file?
[19:15] <altrortla> no
[19:16] <olewolf> It's just that this file is better protected than most files, requiring "440" permissions.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: you could write my pastebin to your hdd, boot to recovery rot console and copy it across
[19:16] <olewolf> If this file got broken, God know what else was broken.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> olewolf: i'm good at work arounds
[19:17] <olewolf> altrortla: just remember to chmod the sudoers file to 440 if you follow ActionParsnip's advice.
[19:17] <altrortla> so i had to use not sudo
[19:17] <Pici> Or use visudo
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: save mine in your home dir then make a backup of the broken one and move mine in its place
[19:17] <altrortla> but root console
[19:17] <olewolf> altrortla: if you can get to a root console, then you'll be able to fix the file. It's just that getting there from your current terminal requires the sudoers file to be valid, so it's a catch-22.
[19:18] <elizabeth> ActionParsnip here is what i got and the cursor on konsole is on stand by is weird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118913/
[19:18] <cuddlescupcake> :)
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> olewolf: -r--r----- 1 root root 496 2009-01-31 13:32 ./sudoers
[19:18] <altrortla> i can't got a root console...
[19:18] <altrortla> azz
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: you can, you reboot and press esc when grub shows up, then select recovery for your kernel, then select root console
[19:20] <olewolf> ActionParsnip: well, that's what it should look like under /etc/sudoers. So altrortla needs to chmod it to writeable, then copy the basebin thing to the sudoers file, and then chmod 440 the file.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> olewolf: just showing the permissions I have on my working file
[19:20] <olewolf> Right, moving that file to /etc/sudoers would work, too.
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[19:22] <ActionParsnip> goody, another one logging on as root :(
[19:22] <gfather> just installed graphic card drivers
[19:22] <gfather> ActionParsnip now what should i do
[19:22] <altrortla> one moment.... so i copy with kate your config...
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> gfather: ok and you configured xorg.conf and all that malarky?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: use any text editor to create a new file with my config
[19:23] <altrortla> then simply copy that file in sudoers
[19:23] <altrortla> ?
[19:23] <elizabeth> so did u saw ActionParsnip what i got after typing on konsole what u told mt to?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: you can then copy the data over
[19:23] <jtisme> my mouse pointer is a vertical bar cannot change it any ideas
[19:24] <gfather> ActionParsnip i think so
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> elizabeth: dmesg | less
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> gfather: try: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> gfather: do you have direct rendering?
[19:24] <gfather> direct rendering: Yes
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[19:25] <ActionParsnip> gfather: great
[19:25] <giuseppe> ciao
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[19:25] <gfather> :)
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> gfather: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:25] <nemes> hi
[19:25] <elizabeth> yes and the cursor on konsole still is freeze this is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118913/
[19:26] <Guest32739> ragazzi ho installato goggle earth ma si chiude subito appena lo apre
[19:26] <nemes> excuse me im absolutly new here and at least totally lost can someone help me? (speaking french may be appreciated) :/
[19:26] <altrortla> looking in sudoers file there's write nothing
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> !fr | nemes
[19:26] <ubottu> nemes: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
[19:26] <nemes> ty
[19:27] <gfather> ActionParsnip done :)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: you need to create a new file anywhere on your system, then boot to the recovery root console and copy it in (after renaming the original)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: its that simple
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> gfather: ok then run: compiz --replace &
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> gfather: if yu have 3d rendering successfully setup it wil work
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> gfather: after you run the command hold ctrl + at and drag the cube round with mouse button 1
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> at == alt*
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[19:29] <elizabeth> ActionParsnip what does what u told me to type suppose to do cause the cursor on konsole does nothing is just there
[19:29] <altrortla> ActionParsnip: ok ... If i need of some tips i'll follow you as Amerigo
[19:30] <amerigo> ehilà
[19:30] <gfather> ActionParsnip didnt work
[19:30] <amerigo> Action
[19:30] <gfather> :S
[19:31] <amerigo> For what i have to understand .... broken sudoers my be broken sever files...
[19:33] <amerigo> i had to reinstall all the system to be sure that a haven't others error?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> gfather: then your video drivers arent right
[19:34] <gfather> :(
[19:34] <gfather> how can i disable it
[19:34] <gfather> teh system got slower
[19:34] <gfather> allot
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> gfather: metacity --replace &
[19:36] <altrortla> ActionParsnip: I had to cange permission on sudoers file and i dunno how to do ...
[19:37] <mefisto__> on topic: http://www.go2linux.org/pics/single_pictures/sandwich.png
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: chown <user to be the owner> /etc/sudoers (or whatever its called)
[19:37] <altrortla> no root console is abled in recover mode
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: its in the menu that pops up once you select recovery mode for your kernel
[19:38] <AndySpain> ActionParship: Can you help me to set up my wifi as well?
[19:38] <AndySpain> I'm on a hp pavilion laptop
[19:38] <altrortla> i'mvery confused... sorry
[19:38] <neel> hi
[19:44] <_Cox> hello
[19:44] <_Cox> anyone willing to help?
[19:45] <martinez> HI people
[19:46] <martinez> were you from
[19:46] <_Cox> croatia
[19:47] <mefisto__> _Cox: ask a question, if any can help they probably will
[19:47] <_Cox> thx
[19:47] <_Cox> ok, i just installed kubuntu today
[19:47] <_Cox> there is sound, but not in amarok
[19:48] <altrortla> ActionParsnip:
[19:48] <altrortla> ActionParsnip:
[19:48] <altrortla> sudo vim smb.conf
[19:48] <altrortla> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[19:48] <altrortla> azz
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[19:49] <olewolf> altrortla: then retry the boot-to-root and chmod it to 440.
[19:49] <_Cox> wait :D i m linux noob
[19:49] <olewolf> altrortla: can you guess why I said remember to chmod it to 440? :)
[19:50] <altrortla> olewolf: I don't know how
[19:50] <altrortla> azz
[19:50] <altrortla> it is out of my range
[19:51] <olewolf> altrortla: well, you managed to boot to a root console, didn't you? Just do exactly as before, but instead of copying the file, "chmod 440 /etc/sudoers".
[19:51] <altrortla> chmod 440 /etc/sudoers ... this string?
[19:51] <altrortla> only?
[19:52] <olewolf> Yes. Assuming the /etc/sudoers file is fixed.
[19:52] <altrortla> ok
[19:52] <_Cox> guys... u sayin that to me or what? :D
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> _Cox: only if you are addressed like this
[19:52] <olewolf> altrortla: the sudoers file is a rather hefty security issue. If it's writable by anyone but root, or even by root itself, then... oh, he left.
[19:53] <nemezero> excuse me, can someone "send" me to the french speaking chan... i dont know how does it work
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> !sound | _Cox
[19:54] <ubottu> _Cox: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> !fr | nemezero
[19:54] <ubottu> nemezero: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr
[19:54] <nemezero> ty
[19:54] <nemezero> !fr
[19:54] <nemezero> !fr|
[19:54] <mefisto__> arts has been abandoned in favour of phonon, hasn't it?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> nemezero: try /j #ubuntu-fr
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> !phonon
[19:55] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phonon
[19:55] <_Cox> ok thx ubottu
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> !info phono
[19:55] <ubottu> Package phono does not exist in intrepid
[19:55] <nemezero> ty
[19:56] <mefisto__> !info phonon
[19:56] <ubottu> phonon (source: phonon): metapackage for Phonon multimedia framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 6 kB, installed size 76 kB
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> Phonon is the Qt4 multimedia API, which provides a task-oriented abstraction layer for capturing, mixing, processing, and playing audio and video content.
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: any better?
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[19:59] <altrortla> coping tours sudoers file it seems to works fine...
[19:59] <altrortla> ActionParsnip:
[19:59] <altrortla> ActionParsnip: coping tours sudoers file it seems to works fine...
[20:00] <mefisto__> _Cox: what sound works? in a different player?
[20:00] <altrortla> ActionParsnip: but this is the bakup file ....http://paste.ubuntu.com/118920/
[20:01] <altrortla> ActionParsnip: samba get the controll?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: the first line isnt needed. which is probably what was causing the issue
[20:03] <altrortla> I had to remake all configuration for my LAN.... next time
[20:03] <altrortla> ActionParsnip: thank you for support
[20:03] <altrortla> olewolf:  thank you for support
[20:04] <altrortla> see you
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: np man, its all learning
[20:04] <_Cox> no
[20:04] <_Cox> its not working in firefox too
[20:04] <_Cox> :S
[20:05] <olewolf> altrortla: so you managed to get it to work?
[20:06] <AndySpain> i can't find sun's java for installation in synaptic
[20:07] <AndySpain> what's the package's name?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: apt-cache search java | grep sun
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: if you are running 64bit, i'd recommend icedtea
[20:08] <olewolf> ActionParsnip: well, 64-bit java *is* available now.
[20:08] <olewolf> From Sun, that is.
[20:08] <AndySpain> ActionParsnip: Humm, the devs of i2p just recommended me to use sun's as I had gij and it has worse performance.
[20:09] <AndySpain> so icedtea is better?
[20:09] <AndySpain> I'm on 64bit pc, yes
[20:09] <altrortla> olewolf: yes olewolf , thanks to you
[20:09] <altrortla> bye
[20:09] <altrortla> see you next time
[20:09] <olewolf> altrortla: you probably need to thank ActionParsnip. .)
[20:10] <olewolf> AndySpain: Sun's version has certain security features that aren't available in Icedtea AFAIK.
[20:10] <AndySpain> ActionParsnip: apt-cache search java | grep icedted  only gives me two plugins...
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: you could run it through nspluginwrapper
[20:10] <AndySpain> olewolf: but is sun's version fully open source?
[20:11] <olewolf> AndySpain: hardly.
[20:11] <AndySpain> what is nspluginwarppaer?
[20:11] <AndySpain> wrapper
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: lets you run 32bit plugins on 64bit systems
[20:12] <AndySpain> there's no easy way to do that?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: then you need to find the .so file for java and nspluginwrapper -i <file>
[20:14] <AndySpain> ok
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> its not hugely graceful
[20:14] <AndySpain> i just tried sudo apt-cache search java | grep sun
[20:15] <AndySpain> all i get is: sunflow - rendering system for photo-realistic image synthesis
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> AndySpain: try without the grep
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> http://dafizilla.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/java-plugin-with-prism-under-ubuntu-64-bit/
[20:18] <szrhawaii> Im having an issue with my applications setting above my desktop does anyone know how to switch them so they stop doing it cause its getting annoying
[20:21] <szrhawaii> its only my system settings and dolphin file manager so far
[20:21] <szrhawaii> anyone know how to solve that
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[20:26] <dotkom_> Hi peeps. When I fullscreen a video the panel at the bottom of the screen stays above?
[20:30] <AndySpain> ActionParsnip: thanks for the link.  I will first try with icedtea, maybe it works better than gij. if not, I'll wrap sun's. but as it's not fully open source, i prefer trying tea
[20:32] <ockonal> hello guys)
[20:45] <AndySpain> can anbody help me set up my wifi?
[20:46] <AndySpain> I'm on a HP Pavilion Notebook
[20:47] <AndySpain> just installed kubuntu yesterday
[20:48] <ulysses__> AndySpain: lspci | grep Ethernet
[20:49] <ulysses__> then press Alt+F2, and type "konsole", then press 'Enter'
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[20:49] <ulysses__> after then type in the konsole 'lspci | grep Ethernet'
[20:52] <AndySpain> ulysses__ sorry, was on the phone
[20:52] <AndySpain> lspci | grep Ethernet
[20:52] <AndySpain> brings no output
[20:52] <AndySpain> ah
[20:53] <AndySpain> sorry
[20:53] <AndySpain> had ethernet instead of Ethernet
[20:53] <AndySpain> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[20:53] <AndySpain> 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[20:53] <ulysses__> i have this:
[20:53] <ulysses__> 08:04.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[20:54] <ulysses__> it works with the restricted driver, which is activated in the systems default on my laptop
[20:54] <AndySpain> where to activate it?
[20:55] <ulysses__> K Menu->Applications->System->Hardware
[20:56] <ulysses__> My language is hungarian, so i don't know the english exactly
[20:56] <AndySpain> here it says hardware drivers
[20:56] <AndySpain> mine is German
[20:56] <AndySpain> but it's empty
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[20:57] <AfterDeath> does Kubuntu 8.10 use KDE 3 or KDE 4?
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[20:57] <AndySpain> KDE4
[20:57] <ulysses__> KDE 4.1.4 is the latest
[20:58] <AfterDeath> okay, thanks
[20:58] <AndySpain> a friend of mine has the same laptop as i have, but he's far away
[20:58] <AndySpain> he told me I had to get a driver from madwifi
[21:01] <marek_> hi, isthere a way to synchronize kontact with syncML?
[21:03] <athlon1> compiz-fusion: When I press ctrl-alt-button1, my cube doesn't rotate and mouse stay locked until I relase. Can any tell me why?
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[21:04] <athlon1> I can't belive it. I works now ... after 3 days not...
[21:04] <bsm> athlon1: maybe you added some workspaces? ;)
[21:05] <boese_> ola
[21:05] <boese_> como estas
[21:06] <athlon1> thanks bsm. Now it works... I don't know why. I've added nothing, i think...
[21:06] <athlon1> What do you mean with workspaces?
[21:06] <bsm> virtual desktops?
[21:06] <bsm> its not important as it works
[21:08] <athlon1> bsm: one question. Every time i open my computers, some applications open. And I want to put them on different desktops automatically (instead of moving them). What plugin do I have to use? Thanks.
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[21:09] <bsm> athlon1: are you using ccsm? its the program where you configure all compiz plugins
[21:09] <federicoscivolet> ciao
[21:09] <bsm> maybe you can configure the Place plugin to put your application on the viewports
[21:10] <athlon1> Yes, but there are many plugins and I don't know wich one I have to use....
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[21:12] <Jonathan__b> hola; acabo de entrar a este programa (konversation)... alguien puede decirme dónde puedo obtener salas de chat?
[21:12] <athlon1> OK, Now I see it. I'm going to try. Thanks....
[21:12] <bsm> athlon1: its called _Place_
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[21:14] <athlon1> Yes, I see it and the posibility of specify a viewport. I suppose that Xview Viewport Position is the number of viewport. I'll try...
[21:19] <mefisto__> AndySpain: try enabling backports (kdesudo software-properties-kde  in the "updates" tab) then look in the hardware drivers again to see if it's there
[21:20] <athlon1> bsm: It works fine!!!! Thanks
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[21:34] <bsm> incredible. kde 4.2 no longer dies with twinview
[21:35] <bsm> anyone knows when full support will be available? setting background image etc?
[21:40] <switch> hi guys, I'm having trouble with my webcam and kopete
[21:40] <switch> can anyone help me?
[21:41] <marek_> hi is there a way to synchronize kontact and kopete?
[21:41] <bsm> switch: ask your question and maybe someone answers
[21:43] <Ren_Saiyuri> *sigh* I guess I can ask then. Is there anyone familiar with Acer monitors? I'm trying to dual-display from my laptop to an Acer X223W 22" monitor. The monitor will display just fine, but either loses signal or cuts the feed roughly every 5-10 seconds? Problem with my graphic card compatibility?
[21:45] <PSiL0> !firefox
[21:45] <ubottu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[21:45] <switch> My webcam works perfectly, but when I click on 'send webcam' in kopete it doesn't do anything. I'm using the MSN protocol
[21:48] <mefisto__> switch: don't know much about it, but maybe you need to open the port kopete uses for webcam in your router?
[21:48] <switch> done that already
[21:48] <switch> mefisto__: done that already
[21:51] <ren_> Hmm... out of curiousity did anyone see my question before I dc'd?
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[21:51] <switch> no, ren_
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[21:53] <Angelus_Delapsus> Question: Is there anyone familar with hardware compatibility via Kubuntu? I have an Acer X223W 22" monitor I'm trying to use for a dual display with a laptop. It will display for roughly 5-10 seconds before cutting out to a black screen then coming back about 2-8 seconds after that.
[21:54] <Angelus_Delapsus> Then repeats the whole cycle until I unplug it.
[21:58] <slow-motion> hi
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[22:11] <cuznt> ih
[22:11] <buckethead> What is a good app to triple overwrite a surplus hard drive?
[22:11] <cuznt> what is triple over write?
[22:12] <buckethead> Replacing all the data on the hard drive three times.. Supposedly removes any chance of recovery.
[22:14] <Angelus_Delapsus> bucket: A shredder program
[22:14] <Angelus_Delapsus> Completely destroys any trace of data both within the deep-embedded storage areas and the open primary.
[22:14] <Angelus_Delapsus> Unfortunately I don't know of any for Linux
[22:14] <przem> Hello How can I change my tmp dir from /tmp to for instance /usr/tmp ( I got message "there's not enough room on the /tmp ... " ) ?
[22:15] <mefisto__> buckethead: try shred: sudo apt-get install shred
[22:15] <buckethead> 'shred' haha, thats easy. Yeah, I've got .win ones but didn't want to mess with it. Thanks.
[22:15] <mefisto__> !info shred
[22:16] <ubottu> Package shred does not exist in intrepid
[22:16] <Angelus_Delapsus> E: Couldn't find package shred
[22:17] <mefisto__> maybe shred is already installed? try man shred
[22:17] <Angelus_Delapsus> Overwrite to hide.
[22:17] <Angelus_Delapsus> Not destry
[22:17] <Angelus_Delapsus> *destroy
[22:17] <Angelus_Delapsus> Which I believe is his intention via a 'triple overwrite'
[22:17] <Angelus_Delapsus> But there is the option.
[22:18] <mefisto__> Angelus_Delapsus: it can remove too
[22:18]  * Angelus_Delapsus nods. I just noticed that. The rest of the line got cut by the smaller window
[22:18] <Angelus_Delapsus> shred -
[22:18] <buckethead> Triple overwrite is apparently the industry standard for a drive to be considered 'clean' of any sensitive data.
[22:19] <mefisto__> a sledgehammer is also very effective :)
[22:19] <Angelus_Delapsus> Hmm.. I haven't heard much about it honestly. We always just refer to it as a 'clean-sweep'
[22:20] <buckethead> mefisto__: I've got 20 of them. I wouldn't make making a small revenue off them. A little window dressing for the budget..
[22:20] <buckethead> Otherwise, Perhaps my SKS..
[22:20] <Angelus_Delapsus> Is it permitted to suggest freeware sites?
[22:21] <Angelus_Delapsus> Cause from those I could probably suggest several shred programs outside of the terminal.
[22:22] <buckethead> Shred -n 3 /dev/sdd seems like its chugging away wonderfully. Three weeks or so to go?
[22:23] <Angelus_Delapsus> Of course: If your trying to wipe a 500GB HDD, it's going to take a whie ;)
[22:23] <Angelus_Delapsus> *while
[22:24] <buckethead> 20 x 250gb.. I think I might see if I have another box somewhere that I can hook four SATAs to and move things faster.
[22:27] <mefisto__> buckethead: you might be interested in http://www.dban.org/
[22:27] <RytmenPinne> Hi, how would I go about to make xfce default from kde?
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[22:31]  * shill check
[22:31] <buckethead> thanks mefisto__.. Unfortunately someone already pulled the drives :/
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[22:32] <JackWinter> aargh this is annoying.  just reinstalled kubuntu 8.10 and tried to install wine again.  still i get no wine menu in the k menu, just a few wine icons in the lost+found...
[22:32] <JackWinter> happy this isn't my main boot :)
[22:49] <JackWinter> seems like this is a known bug, no one knows how to fix it ?
[22:50] <mefisto__> JackWinter: I just installed wine from intrepid-proposed and it created a wine submenu
[22:51] <JackWinter> mefisto__: crazy.  how did you install it ?  i just installed a fresh copy of 8.10, then upgraded everything.  tried to install wine and no better than before..
[22:52] <mefisto__> JackWinter: in the software sources window (you can get to it from adept) "updates" tab, enable "pre-released updates (intrepid-proposed)"
[22:52] <JackWinter> thanks for trying in any case
[22:53] <JackWinter> aha, ok let me check that out
[22:53] <mefisto__> JackWinter: then I just did sudo apt-get install wine
[22:55] <przem>  Hello How can I change my tmp dir from /tmp to for instance /usr/tmp ( I got message "there's not enough room on the /tmp ... " ) ?
[22:56] <JackWinter> przem: create a link
[22:56] <mefisto__> przem: that won't give you more room (unless /usr/tmp is on a different partition)
[22:57] <przem> mefisto__: so the only way is to create a new partition ?
[22:58] <JackWinter> przem: no you can create a link to another partition with the ln command
[22:58] <mefisto__> przem: tried deleting unneeded things from /tmp ?
[22:58] <przem> mefisto__: yes I'have removed aptitude temp files
[22:59] <przem> JackWinter: but it should be hard or soft link ?
[23:00] <Dillizar> what is the command for removing a program
[23:00] <mefisto__> przem: df -h  to see how full your partitions are
[23:01] <JackWinter> przem: a softlink
[23:01] <mefisto__> Dillizar: sudo apt-get remove <package-name>
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[23:02] <Dillizar> mefisto__, i tried that but i will copy your comand line and see what will happen :P
[23:02] <mefisto__> Dillizar: ok, but don't copy <package-name>   what is the program you are removing
[23:02] <JackWinter> mefisto__: i added the option you mentioned to sources.  then removed and installed wine, no change.  but i'' keep fighting tomorrow :)  thanks for the help..!
[23:03] <Dillizar> dunno mefisto__ the flash plugin for mozilla
[23:03] <przem> mefisto__: Now I have some space on /tmp, but I want to prevent fulling it in the future ;)
[23:03] <mefisto__> JackWinter: I did this in intrepid with kde 4.2, so that may be why
[23:04] <JackWinter> ah yes indeed.  i think this was a 4.1 bug issue :)
[23:04] <mefisto__> przem: do you have a separate home partition?
[23:04] <JackWinter> i should probably just install kde 4.2, since this is just an experiment partition anyway...
[23:05] <JackWinter> ok, good night
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[23:07] <mefisto__> Dillizar: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
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[23:07] <mefisto__> Dillizar: sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin
[23:07] <mefisto__> Dillizar: one of those should remove it
[23:07] <halfsane> adept is not prompting me about available updates.. i have it set to do so.   anything I should try?
[23:07] <przem> mefisto__: Yes I have separate home partition
[23:07] <halfsane> i have to manually check
[23:08] <przem> mefisto__: With about 70 GB
[23:09] <mefisto__> przem: how big is your / partition?
[23:10] <przem> mefisto__: 3G
[23:10] <przem> mefisto__: 3GB ;)
[23:10] <JackWinter> przem: you could also resize your partitions.  i have a couple of 10gb / partitions (neveer ran out of space), then a seperate /home for my data, and a seperate /boot/grub for easy installs...
[23:11] <JackWinter> przem: 3gb is small.  try 5-8gb or so....
[23:11] <mefisto__> przem: my / is currently using 8.6 GB so maybe you need it to be bigger, or remove programs you don't need
[23:12] <przem> mefisto__: I have /usr partition also, so programs are ther
[23:12] <przem> and what tools do you recomend for resizing partitions ?
[23:13] <JackWinter> przem: where is your /var ?
[23:13] <mefisto__> przem: qtparted or gparted running on livecd
[23:14] <przem> JackWinter: my /var is on the main root /
[23:14] <JackWinter> przem: i tried using qparted but ended up using gparted (heretic :).  i had no problem with data loss, but if you have big disks it might take a long time...
[23:15] <JackWinter> przem: your /var might be filling up (not only tmp)....
[23:15] <przem> JackWinter: I've used gtparted, some time ago on another computer, and it has destroyed my paritions :/
[23:16] <JackWinter> przem: qtparted or gparted ?  i couldn't get qtparted to work so used gparted.  no problems...
[23:16] <kaddi> how was the programm called to be able to read ext2/3 with windows?
[23:16] <przem> JackWinter: I used the one, which comes with kubuntu live cd
[23:17] <mefisto__> przem: I use gparted all the time and have never had a problem. but resizing partitions is always risky
[23:17] <kaddi> !ext2ifs
[23:17] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2ifs
[23:17] <kaddi> !search ext2
[23:17] <ubottu> Found:
[23:17] <przem> mefisto__: Yes I've been noticed this :/
[23:17] <przem> mefisto__:  ;)
[23:17] <JackWinter> przem: that sounds like the qtparted.  couldn't get that to work.  i used gparted and had no problems.  ymmw :)
[23:18] <mefisto__> przem: that's 2 votes for gparted over qtparted :)
[23:18] <JackWinter> przem: or :(  not laughing at ya...
[23:18] <JackWinter> mefisto__: puts gnomes in your system though :)
[23:19] <mefisto__> JackWinter: I only ever use it on livecd
[23:19] <przem> I thought, that maybe there's another faster way, then resizing paritions, but THANK YOU very much guys fo help :) I'will check your solution :)
[23:20] <mefisto__> przem: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[23:21] <JackWinter> ah, i'm addicted to gkrellm so i have to live with them.  but yes a knoppix (or other boot) and then run gparted that is how i do it.  today i booted the kubuntu 8.10 livecd and installed gparted and then did my work.  so far no probs...
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[23:22] <JackWinter> przem: the fast way is to make a link to another partition...  check out the ln command...
[23:22] <przem> JackWInter: I coudnt do it. :/ I ran command ln -s /tmp /usr/tmp
[23:23] <przem> JackWInter: and didnt work
[23:24] <JackWinter> try ln -T -s /usr/tmp /tmp  (i think)  always have to use man on that command :)
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[23:24] <JackWinter> that would normally work for a file, not sure about a dir
[23:25] <mefisto__> przem: yes I think you got it wrong way around. target first, then name of the link that will point to the target
[23:25] <przem> JackWInter: my konsole says that /tmp file already exists
[23:26] <przem> JackWInter: my konsole says that /tmp file already exists
[23:26] <przem> JackWInter: so maybe I should do it from live cd
[23:26] <przem> JackWInter: because now I cant change my /tmp file
[23:26] <mefisto__> przem: yep. you'll have to remove /tmp and replace it with a link
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[23:27] <JackWinter> maybe you should try without the -T
[23:28] <przem> JackWInter: the same :/
[23:28] <JackWinter> and yes you should rmdir /tmp before doing that.
[23:28] <sobersabre> hi.
[23:28] <sobersabre> hi.
[23:28] <sobersabre> I am trying to install kde 4.2 over ubuntu 8.10
[23:28] <sobersabre> what is the packages list I need to install to have KDE session, etc. ?
[23:28] <sobersabre> I am looking at this page:
[23:28] <sobersabre> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[23:29] <sobersabre> and it has no list of packages, just package sources, and what NOT to install.
[23:29] <przem> ok I'll check this first, it's much safer than resizing partition ;)
[23:30] <przem> Thanks again
[23:30] <mefisto__> przem: you should probably also set the t flag for your new tmp
[23:30] <bled> hi I am totaly new in kubuntu i
[23:30] <przem> mefist__: ok
[23:30] <mefisto__> przem: do ls -l / and notice /tmp has that, unlike normal dirs
[23:31] <bled> i am trying to instal kubuntu
[23:31] <bled> exactly i have instaled  on my pc but i have many problems with instaling applications and updeting the KDE
[23:31] <bled> where can i find any  tutorial
[23:32] <sobersabre> hmm
[23:32] <przem> mefisto__: what does this flag mean ?
[23:32] <sobersabre> is anybody able to tell me what I need to install to have kde 4.2 ?
[23:33] <mefisto__> przem: it means anything in there can be deleted. I think that happens on every boot
[23:33] <mefisto__> przem: for temp files specifically
[23:34] <przem> mefisto__: ok
[23:34] <przem> mefisto__: :)
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[23:35] <JackWinter> ok, gnight everyone.  another battle tomorrow :)
[23:42] <camader> hi.  trying to upgrade to X11R7.4, but 7.3 is in my apt-cache.  running kde3.5, kernel2.6.24
[23:42] <camader> is 7.4 compatible?  if so, how do I apt-get it?
[23:45] <camader> kde3.5.10 i should have said.
[23:45] <mefisto__> camader: to do it with apt-get, you would have to find a repository that has that version
[23:45] <mefisto__> camader: and trust that it will work, since it's an important part of a graphical desktop
[23:46] <camader> mefisto__: is the fact that it's not in the default repo indicative that it may not work?
[23:47] <camader> or do they just lag
[23:48] <mefisto__> camader: it may work. if it's not in the official repo, it means it's not tested enough to be supported by Canonical
[23:48] <mefisto__> camader: do you need it for something in particular?
[23:49] <camader> mefisto__: I was trying to configure a thinkpad trackpoint as described at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint
[23:50] <camader> it looks easier with support for fdi files
[23:50] <gonzalo> xD
[23:51] <DjFlyBy> anyone have an idea why in Kubuntu 7.10 it detects my drives in proper order (ie sda, sdb, sdc) but in 8.10 it has sda backwards with sdb??
[23:51] <gonzalo> xP
[23:51] <mefisto__> camader: maybe worth upgrading to intrepid? but you will lose kde 3
[23:54] <camader> i have a relatively weak laptop.  was concerned about eye candy overhead
[23:54] <mefisto__> DjFlyBy: what is the "proper" order? matching BIOS settings?
[23:56] <mefisto__> DjFlyBy: anyway, grub is responsible. you can help grub work it out by editing /boot/grub/device.map