[08:53] hello, is any LP admin here? [08:54] I posted a question some time ago for migrating sourceforge.net bugs to LP [08:54] and Graham started that, but there was at some point a problem with the staging LP, and things got stuck somehow [08:55] it was question Graham [08:55] gmb, ^ [08:55] it was question 57552 sorry [08:56] fab1: Ah! [08:56] fab1: I've been looking for you on IRC... should have emailed but the last week has been hectic; sorry. [08:56] fab1: Staging came back up last week reasonably stable [08:56] gmb: ah OK, you're Graham :) [08:56] fab1: Yes. [08:57] So I'll get a reimport done today and we can try to check the data again. [08:57] OK, great! [08:57] It's quite a task to do, so thanks a lot again for your efforts [08:57] fab1: np. We're working on making this faster and less of a PITA for you, the user :) [08:58] good :) [08:58] fab1: It'll be some time this afternoon, when our sysadmins in the US come online. I'll send you an email when it's done so you can proceed with checking the imported data. [08:59] ok, I will be there [08:59] Cool. [09:04] henninge: hi, sorry that I have to bother you. I got a mail from rosetta that my http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22584954/de.po upload failed to import (failure in line 5062). to me that line looks fine and msgfmt -c is also happy with the file. any ideas how I can further diagnose this problem? it happened for other imports as well and is not new. I'm just at a loss what to do about it [09:05] mvo: Hi, no worries about bothering me. [09:06] mvo: please tell me the package that this uplaod is for. [09:07] mvo: This way I can look up the error mail and maybe tell you more about it ... ;) [09:07] henninge: ubuntu-ddtp [09:07] henninge: I can give you the msgid of the error mail if that helps [09:07] mvo: obviously ...;) [09:08] Message-Id: <20090214092317.9543.56690.launchpad@loganberry.canonical.com> [09:09] mvo: hm, I don't find it. Do you have a date/time? [09:12] henninge_: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:54:22 -0800 [09:12] henninge_: meh, no [09:12] henninge_: "Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:23:17 -0000" <- that is the correct one [09:13] Subject: Import problem - German (de) - ddtp-ubuntu-universe in Package [09:13] Descriptions for Ubuntu ubuntu [09:13] Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:23:17 -0000 [09:14] mvo: Thanks, Thunderbird is behaving oddly at the moment ... [09:17] mvo: I don't know why but I don't have that report. I thought I was getting copies of all. [09:17] mvo: Can you please forward me the error report, then? [09:17] henninge_: sure [09:18] I think the build of ardour on kohnen has become wedged peculiarly (It's been building for 48+ hours, previous builds have taken 2h40m). Is there someone here who can kill it? [09:18] henninge_: sent [09:21] mvo: oh, it is the "string not terminated" problem. [09:22] mvo: That is due to a librarian bug that truncates long files. Sometimes... :-/ [09:22] mvo: Retrying usually helps. [09:23] henninge_: oh, interessting. would it help to split the string? i.e. "loonnnnnng" to "lo"\n"oon"\n"ng" ? [09:23] henninge_: I could do that when generating the po/pot files [09:23] mvo: no, AFAIK it is the sheer length of the file. [09:24] mvo: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/317482 [09:24] Ubuntu bug 317482 in launchpad-foundations "Librarian truncates large file" [High,Triaged] [09:27] henninge_: aha, thanks a lot [09:27] henninge_: at least I know now that my files are ok :) === henninge_ is now known as henninge [09:41] mvo: I am not sure if your files are all ok, though. Here is a snippet from a comment in our po exporter: http://pastebin.com/d5764f6ae [09:42] mvo: I have seen that you wrap differently but I am not a format expert. [09:43] mvo: have a look here: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#PO-Files [09:44] mvo: further down in the paragraph the handling of multi-line strings is described. [09:45] henninge: thanks, I check it out [09:46] henninge: also so far the import failure (that I have checked at least) look like the bug you just pointed me to [09:47] mvo: I am sure that you can get the source for the Launchpad po exporter to use. Is your script written in python, too? [10:00] henninge: yes, all python. [10:00] henninge: hm, using the LP version would indeed be sweet [10:02] mvo: well, the file itself is not usable stand-alone, although the functionality itself could be extracted, I am sure. [10:05] henninge: thanks, I will not be able to properly look at it befreo feature freeze [10:06] (uubntu feature freeeze) [10:08] mvo: that's ok, I have a lot to do, too.. ;-) [10:09] henninge: yeah, I can imagine :) [10:28] is there a way to find all PPA's which contain a specific source package? [10:29] doko: no, not yet [10:44] bigjools, doko: I find that searching for the name on /ubuntu/+ppas yields what I want... [10:45] it's not perfect though, it depends on the PPA descriptions [10:47] bigjools: It depends on more than that. [10:49] I can search for a binary or source and it will find my PPA, but the description is empty. [10:56] hey all, in inkscape, there are two tags "print" and "printing" [10:56] is there a way to merge the two? [10:56] wgrant: you're right! [10:57] acuster: this is a channel about Launchpad [10:57] there's probably an Inkscape one [10:57] yes [10:57] and isn't my question about launchpad? [10:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape [10:58] your question was about inkscape [10:58] if you say so [10:58] ... [10:59] do you need help filing a bug or a question on Launchpad? [11:00] I would like to merge two tags [11:00] is that possible [11:00] ? [11:00] ah bug tags [11:04] is there a way to delete a tag? [11:05] okay, ciao. Thanks anyhow. [11:19] bigjools: Is there anything else searchable through that UI? [11:20] wgrant: just descriptions and package names [11:21] bigjools: Ah. [11:29] Anyone around with buildd admin powers? [11:29] I think the build of ardour on kohnen has become wedged peculiarly (It's been building for 48+ hours, previous builds have taken 2h40m). [11:34] maxb: A question is probably the best move. === glade88_ is now known as glade88 === cprov changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: cprov | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:14] cprov: Hello! Could you have a look at kohnen? It appears to have got stuck. (Same build for several days, no activity on the console output page) [13:15] maxb: yup, I'm looking for someone who can *poke* it. [13:15] thanks! [13:20] maxb: thanks for reporting it, we should be able to do something automatically based on the current build ETA. Could you please file a bug ? [13:21] hm, saying what though? I noticed that the last line of the live console view suggested the buildd was already trying to kill the job [13:22] "Session terminated, killing shell... ...killed." [13:24] maxb: saying that we should be able to diagnose 'stuck builder', reseting them automatically if the build takes longer than ETA + 15 % (for instance) === jtv is now known as jtv-sprint [13:31] ok, LP 330077 [13:31] Launchpad bug 330077 in soyuz "Automatically deal with stuck buildds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330077 [13:44] maxb: thanks a lot. [13:57] hi all [13:58] is it possible to assign the vala project on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/vala to the vala-team https://launchpad.net/~vala-team ? [14:02] asabil, you can setup the Driver of vala project to be vala-team [14:02] Ursinha: I can't because I am not the owner of the project in launchpad [14:02] oh [14:03] asabil, is talking to the owner an option? [14:03] I tried contacting the owner, but no answer [14:03] asabil, I'm afraid I can't find you another option [14:03] :/ === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [14:04] well I hope I will be able to find a launchpad admin to solve this issue [14:06] asabil, what you can do is file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad requesting that [14:06] but I think they'll need to contact the owner either way [14:06] I already contacted the owner [15:16] hey launchpad peeps. I'm having trouble packaging the latest wadllib [15:16] it makes use of doctest's ellipsis feature, but it doesn't seem to be enabled by default [15:17] does anyone know if there is a way to turn this on via nose? Or do you enable it somehow elsewhere? [15:17] presumably the tests pass for you === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [15:28] james_w: I don't know how to tweak nose, let me ping leonard [15:29] hey cprov [15:29] thanks [15:30] I've got it working using "doctest: +ELLIPSIS", which I now see is used somewhere else, but I wonder if this worked without that somehow [15:32] james_w: I'm not familiar with nose config, but sounds right. [15:32] I assume leonard is off today anyway [15:35] james_w: LP also uses REPORT_NDIFF and NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE, but they might not be needed in wadllib tests, though [15:35] I also had to add NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE to one test [15:36] I'll throw up a merge proposal in a minute with my changes [15:36] james_w: AFAICS, wadllib doctests passes the flags inline [15:37] james_w: line 189, for instance. [15:38] james_w: does nose understand them ? === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [15:39] I don't think nose needs to, doctest does, which is enough [15:41] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/wadllib/fix-doctests/+merge/3655 [15:42] james_w: right, if you add the directives before the failures it works === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === deryck_ is now known as deryck === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:39] gmb: are you here? [16:45] fab1: Yes. Hi. [16:50] gmb: I saw you made the import again [16:50] gmb: are you done or not? [16:50] gmb: because it looks like there are many missing items [16:51] fab1: Really? Can you give me a list, or at least some representative examples so that I can find out what's happened to them? [16:51] fab1: Yes, the import completed. That's why I updated the question. [16:52] gmb: so for example this one: https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/?func=detail&aid=747817&group_id=48857&atid=454373 [16:52] Sourceforge bug 747817 "Shaking planets" [Pri: 5,Closed fixed] [16:52] Hrm. [16:52] fab1: Okay, I'll take a look. Bear with me. [16:53] in fact there are 802 bugs + 449 feature requests + 303 support request [16:54] gmb: the total should be 1554 items [16:54] fab1: Okay. Looking into it now. [16:54] gmb: and there are altoghether 789 items in LP [16:54] which means many are not making it into it [16:54] fab1: How many of those 1554 items are closed? [16:55] gmb: 936 I think [16:55] Hmm. [16:56] gmb: but I don't know if you migrated all trackers though [16:56] gmb: are patches there as well? [16:56] fab1: Yes, all of them were migrated. [16:56] fab1: Yes, patches should be there too. [16:56] so it's even more than 1554 [16:59] gmb: the oldest tracker item is there, as well as the newest [16:59] so it's not a clear cut [17:01] fab1: Right. [17:01] fab1: Well, that example you gave me is definitely in the data we exported from SF, so it must have gone missing during the import, though why, I'm not sure. I'm investigating now. [17:02] ok, if you want a nice list, just compare these two page [17:02] https://sourceforge.net/search/index.php?group_id=48857&words=group_artifact_id%3A(454373+454374+454375+454376)&type_of_search=artifact&pmode=0&limit=100 [17:02] and [17:02] https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/stellarium/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=&fi [17:03] in fact it looks like all the bugs are missing [17:03] other trackers are there [17:04] gmb: yeah, I cannot cross match any item from the sourceforge bugs tracker with the LP tracker [17:05] fab1: That's very weird. I've just asked our sysadmin to re-run that import for me. We'll see how we do. [17:11] fab1: So, some bugs were imported at least: https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/stellarium/+bug/328318 [17:11] Ubuntu bug 328318 in python-fuse "calling uuid inside fuse callback -> unmountable fuse for 5 mins" [Undecided,New] [17:11] gmb: in fact the full list should be precisely 1700 items, patches, bugs and support requests are missing [17:12] anyone around with admin rights in launchpad? [17:12] gmb: right.. [17:12] gmb: then i don't really know.. [17:13] fab1: Okay, this looks like it's going to take some time. First thing I need to do is re-run the import locally and try and trace each item as it gets imported, see what happens. Then we can try and fix the problem on staging. [17:13] gmb: it looks like most of the feature requests are there, so many it was the first part in the import [17:13] many = maybe [17:13] OK [17:19] panickedthumb, what do you need an admin for? [17:20] gmb: I have to go home, I can have a look later if you update the question, or tomorrow [17:20] gmb: see you! [17:21] fab1: Okay. I'll let you know how it goes. === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [17:21] gmb: thanks [17:22] rockstar I want to get the mailing list integrated into launchpad for /~virginiateam [17:23] panickedthumb, what do you mean "integrated" Is it existing outside of Launchpad already? [17:23] I set the mailing list up before it was integrated into launchpad, so now when you go to the mailing list section it just wants you to request a mailing list [17:23] it's https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-us-va [17:24] panickedthumb, I suggest asking a question on Lanuchpad. I'm also curious whether or not we can successfully import a mailing list into Launchpad. [17:25] ok === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [17:29] rockstar this is going to sound stupid but I've never done anything with questions on launchpad [17:29] how do you ask a question? I can find questions I've asked (none) but not how to ask one [17:31] panickedthumb: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [18:29] where is mrevell? [18:30] I see he's online - but I can't annoy him in query of in channel [18:30] s/of/or/ [18:30] MTecknology: maybe i can try and help? [18:31] probably not, it's with him specifically [18:32] I was scheduling a time to meet with him for the lp podcast [18:32] intellectronica: you think he'll pop up in the world a little later? [18:34] MTecknology, he's in UK time, but I guess you already know that [18:35] MTecknology, guess he'll return in one hour or so [18:35] +0, right? [18:35] MTecknology, yes [18:35] thanks [18:35] I'll go shower then :) [18:35] :) [18:36] I'm -6 and I got to sleep in [18:36] sorry, hope it doesn't stink to bad over there, I'll fix that now [18:49] I like the new ajax that was added to the LP bug title renaming [18:50] nhandler, thank beuno for that :) [18:51] beuno: Thanks a lot. [19:09] What technologies does the launchpad API use? [19:10] Why do my bzr push commits not get linked to my LP id? [19:10] eg https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/0.3-armagetronad-sty [19:12] cody-somerville, I wonder what you mean by technologies. [19:15] luke-jr, You probably need to give bzr an email address that matches one you've given to LP. [19:15] persia: how do I give LP a few more? [19:16] kiko, What protocols does it use to communicate? SOAP, XML-RPC? [19:16] luke-jr: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+editemails [19:17] Ah. /people/+me/ I kept failing to find the page :) === _thumper_ is now known as thumper === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov [19:42] cody-somerville, uhm, it's rest-like [19:59] ive created a project, and now i want to share the source... if my peer doesnt have bazaar install, just want to download and run it, what would be the easiest way to do it? up until now, he downloaded every file individually from the source code listing page [19:59] create a release and upload a tarball/zip probably [20:00] mwhudson: yea, i was looking into to that, but i didnt find a button for it and i assumed that the +junk branches couldnt create series or releases... am i wrong? [20:02] oh [20:02] yes [20:02] you need a project [20:03] hmm... i liked it small... it doesnt need to be packed or anything in any way (its a python script) i even considered writing a script that downloaded all the files in the source code listing automatically... [20:04] but maybe i should do some reading on launchpads project methodology then, and create a project [20:05] Or work with the bzr folk: it might be nice to have a lightweight tool that could extract source from a bzr repo (either local or remote) without requiring a bzr install. [20:05] projects are cheap :) [20:06] persia: that wouldn't be significantly simpler than bzr [20:06] mwhudson, Shh! [20:07] persia: bzr pull is already as easy as it gets... i wanted to share the source with someone that doesnt (nore care to) have bazaar installed [20:07] mizipzor, Understood :) [20:07] hmm... so a project has many branches, and every branch is a release, except for trunk/main... am i far off? [20:09] um [20:09] "every branch is a release" isn't really right [20:09] im thinking like a svn tag [20:09] that's one thing a branch can be used for [20:10] used svn for years, but im new to bazaar... and launchpad... so its a little learning curve here :) [20:10] but for many projects a new shortlived branch is created for each feature [20:11] unfortunately, the release stuff in launchpad is a little complex at the moment, and probably better matches the needs of a big project than a small one [20:11] (this is being worked on though) [20:11] but once you've created a project, go to launchpad.net/$yourproject/trunk [20:12] and there will be a 'register a release' link [20:12] right, i just created a project... can i pull the code from the junk project? or is a new push better suited here? [20:12] ah, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/SeriesMilestonesReleases [20:12] if you go to the launchpad page for your branch [20:13] and click the yellow pencil icon, you can reassign the branch to your project [20:15] yup, ive assigned the junk branch to the project now [20:15] http://code.launchpad.net/pyroids if you want to look :) [20:18] cool :) [20:20] should i create a branch for the trunk series? [20:20] reason i even create a series is btw just to get my release going [20:21] probably make your existing branch the trunk series [20:21] every project comes with a trunk series by default, so you don't need to create it [20:21] hmm... i apparently already had a series named trunk === spm_ is now known as spm [20:47] mwhudson: right, so now a want to create a "textbook" branch of my project... a friend has drawn some graphics and want to see it in action, and i think a branch is appropriate to indicate the new graphical changes... is a svnbranch a launchpadbranch, if you understand my terminology :p [20:47] um [20:47] 'probably' ? :) [20:47] hehe, yea, reading the question i cant really expect a good answer, its not really a good question :p [20:48] maybe there is no "right"... but both versions of this little game should exist in paralell, with both setups of graphics. no one replaces the other... what is the appropriate tool to use? a series? a milestone? a branch? another release? [20:54] hi! how to remove series? https://edge.launchpad.net/subdownloader/2.0.10 [20:54] i created this one, but i've done it wrong [20:54] Kmos, https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion [20:55] matsubara: ah ok =) thanks [20:55] Kmos, de nada [20:55] matsubara: obrigado =) [20:56] will launchpad support the feature to remove it from UI? [20:56] Ursinha: you around [20:56] MTecknology, yes [20:58] do you know what revells skyp id is? I think I fund it but he's been MIA for a while [20:59] mizipzor: i'd just use branches for now [21:00] Ursinha: better question, Does he live in Wolverhampton, GB? [21:00] mwhudson: right [21:00] MTecknology, hmm, I don't know either two :/ sorry [21:01] MTecknology, have you tried sending him one email? [21:04] Ursinha: I did a few days ago - I think he's just been extremely busy [21:05] MTecknology, we had the weekend, so it's kinda understandable him being unresponsive the last days :P [21:05] MTecknology, what I can do is: send it to me and I'll send it to him [21:05] :) [21:06] works for you? [21:06] lol, it's ok [21:07] He just wants me to be in his podcast because of a project that got finished. [21:09] Kmos, yes [21:18] matsubara: nice [21:19] Ursinha: what's your email? [21:20] MTecknology, ursinha at canonical com [21:26] whats the difference between a series and a milestone? [21:28] sinzui: ^^ [21:29] mizipzor: a seies is like a 5.x release. a milestone is a major release cycle in a series. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [21:33] mizipzor: here's an exmple: https://edge.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/ [21:37] Ursinha: did you get that? [21:37] MTecknology, let me see [21:37] MTecknology, yeah :) === abentley1 is now known as abentley [22:37] MTecknology: thanks :) [23:01] <_16aR_> Hello [23:01] <_16aR_> Is it possible to undelete some package from our ppa ? [23:02] cprov would likely know [23:03] But there's always the option of downloading the "deleted" source before it gets purged, and reuploading with a new version number [23:03] _16aR_: copy it back (with binaries if they were already produced) [23:03] <_16aR_> because I've deleted 1 package (source + binary) because i wanted to upload the same version (I don't want to change it because the final goal is to upload on revu). But even when deleting then reuploading the same version : no effect [23:04] You can't ever reupload the *same* version. That's blacklisted. [23:04] _16aR_: you know why uploaded versions are blacklisted, right ? [23:04] <_16aR_> ohh ! My new version appeared :) It took much more time than the first upload ! So i thought it was blocked somehow [23:05] <_16aR_> cprov: no [23:05] <_16aR_> I don't know why [23:05] <_16aR_> hmmm, to avoid ppa hacking ? [23:06] _16aR_: because the new uploaded files will almost always conflict with the one you already have in poo/ [23:06] pool/ [23:06] <_16aR_> oh, and it can't overwrite it with dput -f ? Or am I totally off topic ? :p [23:06] _16aR_: refraining you to upset your users, in fact [23:07] dput -f is a client-side thing: does nothing on the server. Soyuz doesn't support dcut (which is a good thing). [23:07] _16aR_: 'dput -f' override the local .upload file only, it has nothing to do with the upload processor [23:07] <_16aR_> cprov: ah ok. For now I'm my user ^^ That's just to continue packaging a game depending of a library I just created on revu and awaiting replies :) [23:08] <_16aR_> cprov: ok, I _was_ off topic ^^' [23:09] <_16aR_> another off topic question : launchpad is developed in python, right ? [23:09] _16aR_: you know you can always upload subversions of the package you are aiming for REVU in the PPA context. Do as many subversions as you want and once you are happy you burn the final license. [23:09] err s/license/version [23:09] too much 'help contact' today. [23:09] _16aR_: yes, it's python [23:10] And, nothing stops you relabelling the version at the time you transfer it into revu [23:11] It's generally considered a bad thing to put packages into PPAs with version numbers that look like they could be official packages- because if that version *does* end up in the official archive, apt won't know that it should upgrade away from the PPA package to the official one [23:15] <_16aR_> yes, you're right === cprov changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: - | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net [23:21] that's it, guys, g'night ! [23:53] Ursinha: did he ever get back to you? [23:55] Request: LP API option to get GPG key for a PPA [23:56] (or key id) [23:56] though preferably the full key [23:57] Anybody have a link that accurately explains what LP is about? I'm writing a paper about it and I need a link [23:57] help.launchpad.net [23:58] ty