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| huats | morning everyone | 08:34 |
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| didrocks | morning huats | 08:36 |
| huats | morning seb128 | 08:38 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 08:39 |
| seb128 | need to restart session brb | 08:39 |
| huats | seb128: do you want that I take care of the gnome-keyring update ? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | huats: do you want to do the gnome-keyring update or are you busy? | 08:43 |
| huats | I just asked you before you left :) | 08:44 |
| didrocks | Hi seb128 :) | 08:44 |
| huats | I am officially not in my previous company :) | 08:44 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:44 |
| huats | so I think I can deal it :) | 08:44 |
| seb128 | huats: oh, congrats | 08:44 |
| didrocks | seb128: bugs #329800, #329832 (and don't forget #327933) :) | 08:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 329800 in gnome-icon-theme "Please, sponsor gnome-icon-theme 2.25.90 to jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/329800 | 08:45 |
| seb128 | huats: well, I want this update today so just claim if you have time to do it today | 08:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 329832 in seahorse-plugins "Please, sponsor seahorse-plugins 2.25.90 into jaunty" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/329832 | 08:45 |
| huats | I'll take care of it right now | 08:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: thanks | 08:45 |
| seb128 | huats: thanks | 08:45 |
| huats | seb128: I can also take care of gtksourceview2 | 08:45 |
| seb128 | huats: ok | 08:45 |
| soren | My wife's gnome-panel has recently begun freezing from time to time on her Hardy laptop.. Any idea what could have caused that? | 09:11 |
| soren | By "freezing" I mean she can't click on anything, the clock is frozen, the window list isn't updated... The rest of the desktop works fine. | 09:12 |
| seb128 | soren: do you get the issue after clicking on the clock applet? | 09:12 |
| soren | seb128: Hm... It's possible. | 09:13 |
| seb128 | there is some gnome-panel bugs about that | 09:13 |
| soren | seb128: I would have to ask her when she gets up. | 09:13 |
| soren | You know, we recently added a Google calendar feed to her Evolution, so that might very well be it. | 09:13 |
| seb128 | you can get an hang stacktrace maybe? | 09:13 |
| seb128 | right, that's a known issue (ie we got quite some bugs about google calendar leading to such hangs) | 09:14 |
| soren | seb128: I'll make sure to grab a dump next time it happens and then remove that feed. | 09:14 |
| soren | seb128: Thanks for the hint :) | 09:14 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 09:15 |
| seb128 | huats: so how are the updates going? ;-) | 10:30 |
| huats | seb128: :) | 10:30 |
| huats | seb128: remind me that I would never have you as my boss :) | 10:32 |
| seb128 | huats: lol | 10:32 |
| seb128 | huats: I'm not asking too much usually but gnome-keyring ssh agent is broken right now and I get pinged by all the people who use svn, ie active contributors who can't get work done in a normal way | 10:33 |
| huats | yeah | 10:33 |
| huats | I understand | 10:33 |
| huats | it will be ready by 3pm | 10:33 |
| seb128 | huats: that's what you get for claiming updates on basic components rather than let's say calculator ;-) | 10:33 |
| pitti | hey huats | 10:33 |
| seb128 | huats: ok thanks | 10:33 |
| pitti | huats: congratulations to your MOTU badge! | 10:33 |
| huats | pitti: thanks ! | 10:34 |
| huats | seb128: LOL | 10:34 |
| huats | seb128: I am creating my pbuilder env on my home computer (since I used to work on my office computer) | 10:36 |
| huats | and I start to build | 10:36 |
| seb128 | huats: you should be running jaunty | 10:36 |
| huats | seb128: yeah... | 10:37 |
| huats | I am thinking of that | 10:37 |
| huats | but I have heard of problem with gnome-keyring :D | 10:37 |
| huats | (and my gf won't be really happy with jaunty so far I think) | 10:38 |
| pitti | huats: why not? your gf bullying you about breakage is 100% pure dogfooding :) | 10:38 |
| huats | :) | 10:38 |
| seb128 | vuntz: hey | 11:13 |
| seb128 | vuntz: gnome-session for you, it restarts automatically things which are in the session and exit which creates and interesting case when running nautilus with no draw_background set | 11:13 |
| seb128 | vuntz: gnome-session keeps running nautilus which keeps exiting since there is nothing to do | 11:14 |
| seb128 | is that a nautilus or a gnome-session issue? | 11:14 |
| seb128 | should nautilus unregister by some way? | 11:14 |
| mpt | Would anyone like to attach before-and-after screenshots to bug 328954? | 11:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 328954 in gnome-control-center "gnome-about-me does not fit in 1024x600 screen" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328954 | 11:15 |
| seb128 | mpt: can you add a comment in the bug requesting for that? I guess whoever is suggesting the change can do that ;-) | 11:16 |
| mpt | fine fine | 11:17 |
| mpt | :-P | 11:17 |
| vuntz | seb128: why does nautilus exit? | 11:30 |
| vuntz | seb128: shouldn't it still run even if there's no background? (don't know) | 11:30 |
| seb128 | vuntz: because there is no dialog open | 11:30 |
| seb128 | vuntz: no | 11:30 |
| vuntz | hrm | 11:30 |
| seb128 | vuntz: there is no server mode | 11:30 |
| seb128 | vuntz: same if you try to nautilus --quit to debug | 11:30 |
| vuntz | gnome-session assumes that it should always run | 11:30 |
| seb128 | wrong assumption | 11:31 |
| vuntz | seb128: that's the meaning of the thing in the .desktop file | 11:31 |
| vuntz | so nautilus bug | 11:31 |
| seb128 | the autorestart? | 11:31 |
| vuntz | it should put that in .desktop file and it should directly control if it gets restarted | 11:31 |
| vuntz | yes | 11:31 |
| vuntz | the panel does this | 11:31 |
| seb128 | well, it should autorestart when running | 11:32 |
| seb128 | not when not running | 11:32 |
| vuntz | seb128: gnome-session starts nautilus. nautilus exits. Then gnome-session restarts it, as indicated by the .desktop file | 11:32 |
| seb128 | vuntz: can you join #nautilus? | 11:33 |
| seb128 | asac: gnome bug #571423 upstream is responsive but needs testing if you want to subscribe and maybe comment | 11:46 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 571423 in ask dialog "grabbing the keyboard while a menu is open can lock the session" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571423 | 11:46 |
| asac | seb128: cool. i will test it asap | 11:48 |
| asac | hopefully before lunch | 11:48 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:48 |
| asac | ok running testcase now | 11:54 |
| asac | seb128: LOCK up ;) | 12:03 |
| seb128 | asac: using the testcase? | 12:03 |
| asac | i also posted a more bad lockup to the bug | 12:03 |
| asac | seb128: yes | 12:03 |
| seb128 | cool | 12:03 |
| asac | seb128: just try multiple times | 12:03 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:03 |
| asac | at some point you will end up in the deadlock grab situation | 12:03 |
| asac | seb128: as i posted i even get worse situations in combination with gtk-pinentry ... even ctrl-alt-F1 doesnt work | 12:04 |
| seb128 | you need to stop gdm to fix it? | 12:04 |
| asac | yesterday i had to hit power button for two things | 12:04 |
| seb128 | killing the testcase is not enough? | 12:04 |
| asac | seb128: well. i didnt try killing the testcase. i assume that works ... i can try | 12:04 |
| seb128 | I will try later | 12:05 |
| seb128 | now is lunch time and I don't want to have to restart my session now | 12:05 |
| pitti | . o O { Use the guest session, Luke! } | 12:06 |
| seb128 | the box tends to freeze a few minutes after switching between xorg sessions | 12:07 |
| seb128 | I didn't try since the sprint though maybe that's fixed now | 12:07 |
| pitti | hm, I get that effect after hibernate | 12:07 |
| seb128 | but the previous time I used gdmflexiserver to start and another session and closed it the computer locked not too long after that | 12:07 |
| pitti | it gets locked on /dev/input/events0 | 12:08 |
| asac | seb128: ok. so killling test binardy doesnt help | 12:09 |
| asac | seb128: updated bug with that info | 12:09 |
| asac | seems to be a stale lock in X somewhere i guess | 12:09 |
| seb128 | weird bug | 12:09 |
| asac | it sounds a bit like the the grabbing requests are not cancelled in X even though the function returns with FALSE | 12:15 |
| asac | in that case its easy to understand why you end up in a deadlock | 12:15 |
| asac | e.g. gtk does a two staged grab for popup: 1st. mouse grab; 2nd keyboard grab | 12:16 |
| asac | so if someone grabs keyboard in between and then tries to grab mouse you will end up in a deadlock | 12:16 |
| asac | but since the gtk functions are supposed to not block it would be something in X that does that. but lets listen to upstream ideas ; | 12:17 |
| asac | anyone knows the IRC nick of "Marco d'Itri" (debian)? | 12:20 |
| * asac ponders db.debian.org | 12:20 | |
| asac | ok seems like "Md" | 12:21 |
| asac | but isnt online | 12:21 |
| seb128_ | vuntz: is "vertical gnome-panel displays only one notification area icon" a known issue? | 12:47 |
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| vuntz | seb128: no | 12:49 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok, you will get bug then ;-) | 12:50 |
| vuntz | seb128: or rather "there might be a bug, but I didn't read it if it exists" | 12:50 |
| seb128 | I've looked on bugzilla and didn't find one | 12:50 |
| vuntz | (too many panel bug mails) | 12:50 |
| pedro_ | seb128: hey, looks like bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=531371 | 12:55 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 531371 in notification area "Bad icons arrangement in vertical mode." [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 12:55 |
| pedro_ | seb128: it uses one line for all the icons on the notification area | 12:55 |
| pedro_ | if you increase the size you'll see the others icons | 12:55 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 12:55 |
| seb128 | pedro_: bug #329537 | 12:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 329537 in gnome-panel "tray show only one icon on vertical panel" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/329537 | 12:56 |
| pedro_ | seb128: yup we have that one as well | 12:56 |
| pedro_ | wait bug 322252 | 12:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 322252 in gnome-panel "notification area draws incorrectly on vertical panel" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322252 | 12:57 |
| vuntz | seb128: btw, can you try... | 12:58 |
| vuntz | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571041 | 12:58 |
| vuntz | there's a patch | 12:58 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 571041 in notification area "remove obox" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 12:58 |
| vuntz | it might fix it | 12:58 |
| seb128 | vuntz: would testing be useful to you? | 12:59 |
| seb128 | ie I'm being lazy and will not test if that's not useful but if you want to know if that fixes it or I can do that | 13:00 |
| vuntz | seb128: well. If it avoids opening an upstream bug... ;-) | 13:02 |
| seb128 | vuntz: do you intend to commit this change before rolling new tarballs today? ;-) | 13:03 |
| vuntz | seb128: the patch is good, so I'll likely commit it if chpe doesn't commit it | 13:03 |
| vuntz | seb128: so, deal: don't open the bug and wait for the new tarball? | 13:03 |
| vuntz | :-) | 13:03 |
| seb128 | ok, so I will wait for the new tarball to try | 13:03 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:03 |
| seb128 | deal! | 13:03 |
| ember | pochu do we still need the procs change on tracker? | 13:17 |
| huats | seb128: I am a little late on my schedule | 14:01 |
| seb128 | huats: I noticed! | 14:01 |
| huats | I am installing again my jaunty vm | 14:01 |
| huats | and once it is done, I can testrun the update.. | 14:01 |
| seb128 | is the update technically ready? | 14:01 |
| huats | yep | 14:01 |
| seb128 | I can review and test it if you want | 14:01 |
| huats | sure | 14:02 |
| huats | seb128: let me put it somewhere | 14:02 |
| seb128 | open a normal sponsoring bug? | 14:02 |
| huats | ok | 14:02 |
| TomJaeger | seb128, about bug #217908, I've responded to your concerns in the bug tracker. I thought it might be easier to discuss this on IRC. | 14:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 217908 in cairo "Pixellated Images in Firefox/Opera due to incorrect EXTEND_PAD implementation in several video drivers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217908 | 14:08 |
| seb128 | TomJaeger: hi, I was just reading your comment | 14:08 |
| seb128 | TomJaeger: the issue is simple we don't want to carry changes when not really required, if that change is good is should go upstream if they have a reason to not want it we should probably not ship it either | 14:09 |
| seb128 | TomJaeger: having distro diverting from upstream create distro specific bugs and tension with uostream and is usually not a good thing | 14:09 |
| TomJaeger | As I said, upstream can't ship the change yet, because they can't be sure the drivers are fixed at this point | 14:09 |
| seb128 | how can we be sure if they are not? | 14:10 |
| TomJaeger | this is what this whole bug is about | 14:10 |
| seb128 | no, that bug is about fixing the drivers we have control over | 14:10 |
| seb128 | the freedesktop guys could clearly do the same | 14:11 |
| TomJaeger | Some projects are slow to respond to bug reports, but these changes are going to happen upstream eventually | 14:12 |
| seb128 | and I would argue that this bug is open for almost a year and has no duplicate so it's not a real issue for our users and probably not worth carrying this delta for cairo | 14:12 |
| TomJaeger | I think it's an important issue. The browser is one of the first programs any user is likely to use | 14:12 |
| seb128 | well nobody seems to notice or care | 14:13 |
| seb128 | I for one have no issue with the current rendering | 14:13 |
| TomJaeger | And people do notice that scaled images look fine on Windows and look like shit on ubuntu | 14:13 |
| TomJaeger | People do care | 14:13 |
| huats | seb128: bug 330096 | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 330096 in gnome-keyring "Please sponsor gnome-keyring 2.25.91 into jaunty" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330096 | 14:14 |
| seb128 | huats: thanks | 14:14 |
| huats | no pb (sorry I have been on the phone...) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | that's ok | 14:14 |
| huats | seb128: I don't want you to think that I need 10 minutes to put on LP :=) | 14:14 |
| huats | :) | 14:14 |
| TomJaeger | seb128, especially with high-resolution screens being more common on laptops these days | 14:14 |
| huats | I am not as slow than didrocks on mariokart :P | 14:15 |
| seb128 | TomJaeger: ok, can we get an upstream bug where upstream state they agree with the changes and will apply those once drivers are fixed then? | 14:15 |
| seb128 | huats: ;-) | 14:15 |
| TomJaeger | seb128, this is more or less what Carl stated in that intel driver commit message | 14:15 |
| seb128 | TomJaeger: we already had unhappy upstream due to distro changes and I would like to avoid that if not required | 14:15 |
| TomJaeger | I'm sure upstream is going to appreciate the work we are doing here | 14:16 |
| seb128 | the commit message has a "(due to various bugs and workarounds in cairo and pixman)" mentions | 14:17 |
| seb128 | do you have details on that? | 14:17 |
| TomJaeger | the bug was in pixman, the workarounds are in cairo | 14:17 |
| seb128 | have those issues been addressed in jaunty? | 14:17 |
| TomJaeger | The pixman issue was fixed here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pixman/commit/?id=2d9c7cd84b276ebe2ff72d03c34a2d7f4f98b9f9 | 14:18 |
| TomJaeger | This is not in jaunty as I don't think EXTEND_REFLECT is very important | 14:18 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:20 |
| seb128 | you seem to know what you are doing let's keep things this way for now | 14:20 |
| TomJaeger | thanks | 14:21 |
| seb128 | sorry for the trouble but I'm trying to avoid adding random changes because somebody stated that was a good idea | 14:21 |
| seb128 | we got bitten by such things turning to be not so great idea and make upstream not happy with ubuntu for shipping those changes | 14:22 |
| seb128 | so it's always good to have an upstream bug stating that agree with the change when possible ;-) | 14:22 |
| TomJaeger | I'm kind of interested now, what was that change that upstream was unhappy about? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | that's not especially on cairo | 14:24 |
| seb128 | they were unhappy with the lcdfilter changes we have though | 14:24 |
| seb128 | brb trying the new gvfs version | 14:25 |
| seb128 | ok, works correctly | 14:28 |
| TomJaeger | seb128, Thanks, I'll take another shot at getting the remaining driver fixes accepted upstream, and as soon as that has happened, I'll bring up the issue on the cairo mailing list again. | 14:34 |
| seb128 | TomJaeger: thank you for your work and being responsive to my comments! | 14:34 |
| TomJaeger | You're welcome | 14:35 |
| seb128 | huats: usually users enjoy reading the NEWS entry in the debian changelog if you can copy it there ;-) | 14:38 |
| huats | seb128: hum... | 14:38 |
| huats | that is true | 14:38 |
| seb128 | just a detail but I mention it | 14:39 |
| huats | you are right | 14:39 |
| seb128 | it's handy to close bugs and nice to read | 14:39 |
| didrocks | huats: I prefer doing better packages than playing mario kart :p | 14:39 |
| * didrocks needs a real revenge on MK :) | 14:40 | |
| huats | seb128: can you imagine, that didrocks has willingly forgotten his nintendo DS at home during the fosdem, to avoid playing MK with me ??? | 14:40 |
| pitti | oh, is that the current game? I still live in the frozen bubble world | 14:40 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: that's false. I had my DS, huats not :) | 14:40 |
| huats | well he forgot to tell me : bring your, I'll have mine... | 14:41 |
| didrocks | huats: that's pretty different from what you were saying ;) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | pitti: maria kart is quite old game though they do new versions for new machines ;-) | 14:44 |
| seb128 | I've not played it for 15 years or so | 14:44 |
| pochu | ember: do you mean the change from 0.6.6-1ubuntu4 ? | 14:45 |
| huats | :) | 14:47 |
| huats | seb128: come to toulouse to do a conference :) | 14:47 |
| huats | and you'll be able to play :) | 14:47 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:47 |
| huats | ;) | 14:48 |
| ember | pochu yes | 14:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: I will be there an next ubuntu party in Toulouse, please come so that I feel not lonely when loosing :) | 14:48 |
| pochu | ember: no idea, kees did that change | 14:48 |
| seb128 | huats: you need to update the libgcr0 shlibs too | 15:18 |
| huats | pfff | 15:18 |
| huats | I gave you the wrong stuff | 15:18 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:18 |
| seb128 | yeah yeah | 15:18 |
| huats | (yeah that sounds weird but I am on 2 computer this afternoon..) | 15:19 |
| huats | and I did the update on both | 15:19 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: ping | 15:19 |
| seb128 | huats: the new gnome-keyring works correctly here | 15:23 |
| huats | ok | 15:23 |
| huats | great | 15:23 |
| seb128 | huats: so you can update the changelog to list the change and close bugs and update the shlibs? then I can sponsor the upload ;-) | 15:25 |
| huats | ok | 15:25 |
| huats | no pb | 15:25 |
| huats | I'll | 15:25 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:26 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: pong | 15:54 |
| ember | Keybuk there? | 16:01 |
| Keybuk | yup | 16:01 |
| ember | i was talking with kees about a inotify change in tracker | 16:01 |
| ember | ubuntu as been using fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288 | 16:02 |
| Keybuk | right | 16:02 |
| ember | debian added the change and increase to fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536 | 16:02 |
| Keybuk | that's a tenth of our value? | 16:02 |
| ember | so i should keep the ubuntu change or drop it? | 16:03 |
| Keybuk | keep it | 16:07 |
| ember | ok, thanks. | 16:07 |
| jeromeg | hello guys | 16:45 |
| jeromeg | I packaged abiword 2.6.6 which fixes a lot of annoying bugs | 16:46 |
| jeromeg | I would like to get it in before feature freeze | 16:46 |
| jeromeg | could someone review my package attached to bug #318444 ? | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 318444 in abiword "[need-update] abiword to latest stable version 2.6.6 in Ubuntu 9.04" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318444 | 16:47 |
| pitti | jeromeg: can you please sub ubuntu-main-sponsorss? | 16:47 |
| pitti | jeromeg: btw, that doesn't sound like a FF issue, if it's mostly bug fixes | 16:47 |
| pitti | jeromeg: so we can get it in a bit later, but either way, we'll try to look at it ASAP | 16:47 |
| pitti | jeromeg: thanks a lot for the update! | 16:47 |
| jeromeg | pitti: unfortunately, I won't be available a lot in the next fex days, so I would have liked to have someone look at it today | 16:48 |
| jeromeg | so I can fix things if I made some stupid mistakes | 16:48 |
| pitti | jeromeg: understandable; I just have to leave in about 15 mins, and still working on something :( | 16:49 |
| jeromeg | pitti: ok, no problem | 16:50 |
| pitti | jeromeg: judging by the changelog it looks alright | 16:50 |
| pitti | jeromeg: btw, please don't attach orig.tar.gz's to bug reports, an URL to the upstream location suffices :) | 16:51 |
| pitti | (and we'll download that one anyway) | 16:51 |
| jeromeg | pitti: the tarball is repackaged | 16:51 |
| pitti | or did you repack the upstream tarball? | 16:51 |
| pitti | ah | 16:51 |
| pitti | what changes, out of interst? | 16:51 |
| jeromeg | I'm not the one who started this, debian does it too | 16:51 |
| jeromeg | pitti: it's a merge of four tarballs | 16:51 |
| pitti | right, I just don't remember why it's necessary - some nonfree bits? | 16:51 |
| pitti | ah, that | 16:52 |
| jeromeg | abiword, abiword-help, abiword-plugins, abiword-extras | 16:52 |
| pitti | jeromeg: does this have a debian/rules get-orig-source? | 16:52 |
| jeromeg | there is a README.source at the root of the tarball | 16:52 |
| jeromeg | pitti: I found 3 or 4 additionnal LP bugs closed by this upgrade, shall I update the changelog, or closing them by hand after the upload is ok ? | 16:53 |
| pitti | jeromeg: closing by changelog is always nice, for keeping a permanent cross-ref | 16:54 |
| jeromeg | ok, I'll attach the updated package then | 16:54 |
| pitti | jeromeg: awesome, thank you | 16:54 |
| seb128 | huats: hello? ;-) | 16:58 |
| huats | seb128: I am here.. | 17:06 |
| huats | seb128: I will put that in 5 minutes | 17:06 |
| huats | I was away | 17:06 |
| seb128 | huats: ok, sorry for pinging on this one, I will be cool again on the next ones ;-) | 17:07 |
| huats | no pb | 17:07 |
| seb128 | huats: you signed up for some responsability you get the pressure going with those ;-) | 17:08 |
| huats | I start to know how you are :) | 17:08 |
| pitti | huats: didn't know seb128's whip before? :-) | 17:09 |
| huats | nope | 17:09 |
| pitti | PHEAR | 17:09 |
| huats | ... i should have been more careful... | 17:09 |
| * pitti hugs seb128 and huats | 17:09 | |
| huats | :) | 17:10 |
| seb128 | pitti: I try to not scare them too early, now that they joined motu though ... ;-) | 17:10 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 17:10 | |
| pitti | seb128: ... there's NO way back!!11! | 17:10 |
| * seb128 hugs huats | 17:10 | |
| * huats hugs both seb128 and pitti | 17:11 | |
| pitti | huats: seriously, the Ubuntu user crowd will appreciate your help | 17:12 |
| huats | :) | 17:12 |
| huats | for what ? getting whipped by seb128 :) | 17:12 |
| seb128 | better you than them no? ;-) | 17:13 |
| seb128 | ahahah ;-) | 17:13 |
| huats | ;) | 17:13 |
| seb128 | see what happens when I get bored because contributors claims all upgrades but don't give me something to review ;-) | 17:13 |
| huats | seb128: I am having trouble to associate the various bug fixes to the elements of the NEWS file | 17:15 |
| seb128 | huats: use https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/gnome-bugs/nnnnn ? | 17:21 |
| ember | seb128 if you so bored there's a tomboy update awaiting to be sponsored :o | 17:21 |
| * ember hides | 17:21 | |
| seb128 | huats: where nnnn is the gnome bug number, it will give you the ubuntu bug if there is one | 17:21 |
| huats | ok | 17:21 |
| seb128 | ember: I try not touching monon when I don't have to | 17:22 |
| huats | seb128: the thing is that all bug linked from LP are still not marked as resloved upstream | 17:22 |
| seb128 | and I'm not really bored ;-) I might have a look to sponsoring when I'm done looking at some evolution changes though | 17:22 |
| huats | seb128: let's no close bugs automatically | 17:23 |
| seb128 | huats: ok | 17:23 |
| huats | and I'll close them manually | 17:23 |
| huats | (I'd rather have an opened bug in LP instead than a false close one... well I think it is better) | 17:23 |
| ember | the only "monon" i touch is tomboy | 17:23 |
| huats | (but I might be wrong) | 17:23 |
| seb128 | huats: right, I though they had fixed the fix commited bug before rolling the tarball but apparently not | 17:24 |
| seb128 | brb | 17:25 |
| didrocks | you're crazy guys ;) | 17:27 |
| didrocks | huats: if you want, I think I can whip seb128 for sponsoring too. He owns me 3 :) | 17:30 |
| didrocks | huats: hum no… that's true that you are always putting my leg about mario kart, so I won't :p | 17:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks: I'm doing sponsoring next | 17:31 |
| didrocks | seb128: just kidding, no emergency ^^ | 17:31 |
| didrocks | as all those packages will have FFe, I think :) | 17:32 |
| seb128 | I know there is no hurry, I would have sponsored those already otherwise ;-) | 17:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks: right, there is no freeze for GNOME | 17:32 |
| didrocks | seb128: as huat's one, for instance? :p | 17:32 |
| seb128 | yes | 17:32 |
| seb128 | getting the ssh agent fixed would stop angry people who can't commit to svn due to that | 17:32 |
| seb128 | or rather who have to type their password a zillion time a day | 17:32 |
| didrocks | it's understandable ^^ | 17:33 |
| didrocks | btw, I have to ping ubuntu-server team to know why there is no ssh-agent by default on server (it can be sometimes useful) | 17:34 |
| huats | seb128: it is on LP | 17:34 |
| seb128 | huats: thanks | 17:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks: btw there is a new gnome-python-extras version for you | 17:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks: and gnome-python-desktop too | 17:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: some work to do, so, I'm on it | 17:37 |
| didrocks | :) | 17:38 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 17:38 |
| seb128 | didrocks: there is also vino and vinagre if you want to do those | 17:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: I put them on my schedule too :) | 17:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: is it normal that gnome-python-desktop is not in bzr for ~desktop-team? | 17:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks: it was supposed to be there? is there still a sponsoring request pending for it that I forgot about because it's not on the list? | 17:43 |
| didrocks | hum, let me check | 17:44 |
| seb128 | huats: the shlibs to update is the libgcr0 one and not the libgnome-keyring one | 17:45 |
| huats | seb128: there is a shlibs for libgnome-keyring | 17:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: gnome-python-desktop was sponsored and I attached the bzr branch | 17:45 |
| seb128 | huats: and now you need one for libgcr0 | 17:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok so I didn't push it probably, where is it? | 17:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/+junk/gnome-python-desktop but you can push it next time :) | 17:47 |
| seb128 | huats: no .shlibs means there is no version specified, which was correct for libgcr since that's a new lib | 17:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok, will do that then | 17:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: I used +junk because there is no gnome-python-desktop project in LP | 17:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks: https://edge.launchpad.net/gnome-python-desktop ? | 17:48 |
| didrocks | that's strange, it refused it to me. I will try again to push the branch later | 17:49 |
| crevette | didrocks: I have the same problem for my packaging | 17:49 |
| didrocks | crevette: even with project that are on LP | 17:50 |
| crevette | I tried to push my own branch for obex-data-server but I wasn't allowed to, wo Ipushed to +junk | 17:50 |
| seb128 | crevette: you need to have a product using the same name on launchpad, if your packaging is nautilus-sendto-universe that's normal | 17:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's ok now | 17:50 |
| crevette | seb128: no obex-data-server | 17:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: Registered | 17:50 |
| didrocks | 2009-01-27 | 17:50 |
| didrocks | :) | 17:50 |
| huats | seb128: ok | 17:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks: yes, I pinged jcastro recently about it I think | 17:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks: but your request is not waiting for 3 weeks is it? | 17:51 |
| seb128 | crevette: weird, https://edge.launchpad.net/obex-data-server | 17:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: I think I created the branch in ~didrocks before the creation | 17:51 |
| didrocks | of the project | 17:51 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:51 |
| huats | seb128: (it is corrected) | 17:52 |
| huats | so if I understood you well | 17:53 |
| huats | there was no need for the 2.25.90 since the lib was new in that release, but now we need it, since there was a .shlibs in the package | 17:54 |
| huats | ? | 17:54 |
| seb128 | huats: almost good, the libgnome-keyring shlibs doesn't need an update | 17:54 |
| seb128 | just libgcr | 17:55 |
| seb128 | the shlibs need to be updated when there is an api addition | 17:55 |
| seb128 | libgcr was new so there was no api addition in a specific version so no need to specify one | 17:55 |
| seb128 | now there is one | 17:55 |
| seb128 | so you need to specify that | 17:55 |
| seb128 | didrocks: you should talk to dholbach | 17:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks: your bugs fail to be listed, probably because you have no comment | 17:56 |
| seb128 | just guessing | 17:56 |
| seb128 | I will add a thanks for your work on one to see ;-) | 17:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh? yes, try this and we will see :) | 17:57 |
| huats | seb128: ok | 17:57 |
| huats | I understand now | 17:57 |
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| huats | seb128: better on LP ? | 18:02 |
| seb128 | huats: yes ;-) | 18:04 |
| seb128 | huats: sponsoring this one | 18:04 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm away for dinner, I'll do some sponsoring after that | 18:06 |
| seb128 | huats: you still have gtksourceview on your list, no hurry for this one | 18:06 |
| seb128 | huats: you can do alacarte and bug-buddy next if you want | 18:06 |
| seb128 | or work on the libgda update | 18:06 |
| huats | seb128: I will tackle gtksourceview (just need to test run it now) | 18:08 |
| huats | and I might give a chance to put it in bzr | 18:09 |
| huats | and then tomorrow we'll see what remains :) | 18:09 |
| vuntz | seb128: I'm sure you want to give me 10 minutes of your time | 18:10 |
| vuntz | :-) | 18:10 |
| huats | hey vuntz | 18:11 |
| pitti | bonsoir vuntz | 18:11 |
| vuntz | Guten Abend, Herr Pitt | 18:11 |
| vuntz | seb128: just wondering about /etc/gconf/2/path in ubuntu | 18:12 |
| pitti | comment vas-tu? | 18:12 |
| vuntz | seb128: why did you add gconf.xml.system instead of fixing the PK stuff upstream to use gconf.xml.defaults? | 18:12 |
| vuntz | pitti: es geht gut | 18:13 |
| * vuntz hopes pitti doesn't want to test the limits of his german ;-) | 18:13 | |
| pitti | vuntz: don't worry, that's about the limit of my French :) | 18:14 |
| pitti | well, that, and a few phrases which aren't quite suitable here :) | 18:14 |
| vuntz | heh | 18:14 |
| seb128 | vuntz: I've to go now but I will be back after dinner | 18:18 |
| seb128 | vuntz: we did those changes way before the upstream changes you are speaking about | 18:19 |
| seb128 | vuntz: we move the schemas default to var and have a debian tool to write distribution defaults | 18:19 |
| vuntz | seb128: nah, nah, nah. I'm talking about something else :-) | 18:19 |
| seb128 | vuntz: the idea is that there is 3 set of settings, upstream, distro, systeadmin | 18:19 |
| vuntz | seb128: you added gconf.xml.system later | 18:19 |
| seb128 | vuntz: I didn't do any packaing change when updating today | 18:20 |
| vuntz | don't know about today | 18:20 |
| vuntz | anyway | 18:20 |
| vuntz | just ping me back after dinner | 18:20 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ah, mvo did that, ping him | 18:20 |
| seb128 | vuntz: I think that's because he was getting an error while trying to set system defaults and assumed that's because the directory was not available or something | 18:21 |
| vuntz | mvo: my friend? | 18:21 |
| seb128 | I've to go but I will be back after dinner ;-) | 18:21 |
| mvo | vuntz: I need to leave in 2min - what is the matter? | 18:21 |
| seb128 | gconf (2.23.2-0ubuntu3) intrepid; urgency=low | 18:21 |
| seb128 | * create /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system | 18:21 |
| seb128 | * include it in the default gconf path | 18:21 |
| seb128 | -- Michael Vogt <michael.vogt@ubuntu.com> Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:33:30 +0200 | 18:21 |
| seb128 | I guess that's this change | 18:21 |
| vuntz | mvo: just ping me back when you'll be back, then. Nothing urgent | 18:22 |
| mvo | vuntz: ok | 18:22 |
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| Spinus | hi guys!...I'm trying to do a merge between Pidgin (ubuntu version) and the new debian version..could someone help me? :) | 20:16 |
| chrisccoulson | bryce - do you think it would be useful to have timestamps in Xorg log files? | 21:31 |
| seb128 | asomething: there? | 22:56 |
| ember | seb128 mind if i do gnome-themes and gnome-terminal? | 23:44 |
| seb128 | you can do those updates | 23:45 |
| ember | ok thanks. | 23:45 |
| asomething | seb128: i'm back | 23:49 |
| seb128 | asomething: hello, want to do the e-d-s, evolution, evolution-exchange 2.25.91 updates? | 23:49 |
| asomething | seb128: sure thing | 23:50 |
| seb128 | asomething: let me look at your evolution documentation split again, I looked quickly before and had some comments | 23:50 |
| asomething | seb128: Bug #272779 | 23:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272779 in evolution "evolution's documentation should be split in locale packages to save space" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272779 | 23:50 |
| seb128 | thanks for the bug number -;) | 23:50 |
| seb128 | asomething: why did you add a documentation-common? | 23:51 |
| asomething | seb128: it's the C locale, should I just do a documentation-c | 23:52 |
| seb128 | asomething: no, don't split this one, we want to keep one documentation always installed I think | 23:52 |
| seb128 | just keep it where it's no, evolution-common? | 23:52 |
| seb128 | asomething: otherwise I'm not sure the enhances evolution and recommends documentation-en are useful | 23:53 |
| seb128 | recommends are installed by default, why installing the german translation should trigger the english one? | 23:54 |
| seb128 | also you need to use replaces on evolution-common (<< 2.25.90-0ubuntu3) | 23:54 |
| seb128 | since you move files between binaries | 23:54 |
| asomething | seb128: i assume that English will always be full, so I install it as a back up | 23:55 |
| seb128 | isn't C there for that? | 23:55 |
| seb128 | you might want to no split -en in this case | 23:56 |
| asomething | so leave C in evo-common and not recommend -en? | 23:58 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure about the recommend | 23:59 |
| seb128 | hum | 23:59 |
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