/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/02/16/#ubuntu-mozillateam.txt

dtchenfta: the ratelimit module doesn't actually limit the sounds, only the logging currently00:08
ftadtchen, hm, when i hear a glitch, i also see those ratelimit logs00:09
ftadtchen, and i also have a lot of E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail_update() returned 0.00:26
ftaE: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail_update() returned 0.00:26
dtchenfta: right, i've changed the conditional in jaunty's package for that logging00:27
dtchene.g., if you disable glitch-free, you'll get that message erroneously spammed to your syslog00:27
ftadtchen, i'm running 0.9.15~test2-0ubuntu1~ppa100:28
ftadamn openarena, i want it back, i need my shot00:29
dtchenfta: i'll take a look at ~test2 shortly - just need to verify some pending changes00:31
asacjtv: hi10:39
asacjtv: maybe those import errors come from translators trying to upload their own thing ?10:39
asacjtv: or do we know that this is from importing the upstream .xpis?10:40
asacjtv: can you find out who uploaded that? if it was arne then its something we should take a closer look at immo10:40
BUGabundoasac: did you take a look at my FON bug?11:02
asacnope11:09
BUGabundookay11:10
asacBUGabundo: i will upload 0.7.1 to ppa in a few minutes. maybe check your bugs on that too11:10
asacat least for me 3g became more stable due to diligent use of AT commands11:11
BUGabundonice11:12
BUGabundowill NM ever show 3G connection speed/mode?11:12
BUGabundobeing on UMTS and HDSPA makes a lot of diference11:12
asacBUGabundo: it will once we have modemmanager11:16
asacBUGabundo: upstream has added that for 0.811:16
asacbut thats going to take a while until its stable11:16
asacalso bluetooth and other work will be done there11:16
BUGabundo\0/11:17
BUGabundoand will allow me to set default network? and not default too wired, and then wifi?11:18
BUGabundoeeheh cause currently I can't share 3G, or Wifi if I have wired hooked11:18
BUGabundounless I manage to get that metrics thing11:18
asacBUGabundo: i dont think that upstream is really aware of that problem. i will ask11:19
asacbut he isnt wake up yet11:19
asacremind me in a few hours ;)11:19
BUGabundoI did... its on the bug!11:19
BUGabundoof course this is a corner case, but still winxp sp2 does this nicelly11:22
asacBUGabundo: thats not reminding ;)11:22
asaci read bugmail once a day11:22
BUGabundoheehheheh11:22
BUGabundoreally? wow11:22
BUGabundothat will accumulate a lot of bug mail11:22
BUGabundoI read mine a few more times then that11:22
asacBUGabundo: i dont read all bugmail even11:24
asacmy bugfolder contains like 30K new mails since i ushed the reset button in December11:24
asacBUGabundo: feel free to subscribe to ubuntu-mozillabugs mailing list ;)11:24
BUGabundohheeheh11:25
BUGabundobeen there, and got out11:26
BUGabundoactually it as ubuntu bugs11:26
BUGabundolasted 1 week11:26
asacyeah ubuntu bugs is much worth even ;)11:27
asacwell ... doesnt make a big difference11:28
asaceither you can stay on top or you dont11:28
asaci cannot stay on top so i rely on some smart filtering tools to at least get some bug mail processed11:28
BUGabundoahh11:34
BUGabundoso many bugs fall under the radar!11:34
asaci try to keep up with titles11:35
asacalso i do 72 hour bug sessions every now and then11:35
asacand yes. i mostly rely that important issues get escalated somehow11:36
BUGabundoyeah11:37
jtvasac: can't now, I'm sprinting—but look in the import queue.12:09
asacjtv: heh12:09
asacok12:09
asaci will ask arne to do that12:09
asacoh well ... let me check12:10
asacseems like gl and sg were uploaded as .xpi12:25
asacinterestingly enough .gl also got a po upload12:25
asacbut i guess thats not related12:25
=== jtv is now known as jtv-sprint
* gnomefreak wonders why 1.1.15 hasnt been started on for seamonkey. maybe no fixes landed yet14:48
asacgnomefreak: everything but one fix has landed15:00
asacgnomefreak: and its me who probably has to do that (too)15:00
gnomefreakget-orig says it doesnt have version on server15:00
fta2as i said last week, the get-orig of sm1 is not using m-d15:01
fta2so it's not tracking snapshots15:01
fta2otoh, it's not that difficult to make it use m-d15:02
gnomefreakfta2: get-orig error is when trying to get 1.1.1515:03
gnomefreakoh no snapshots nm15:04
asacgnomefreak: there is no tag yet15:15
asacgnomefreak: you can use latest MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH to produce a snapstho15:15
asacbut there will be one commit before 1.1.15 at least15:15
asaci just have to do that backport - which was a bit complicated15:15
gnomefreaki didnt relize you could use branch tag with get-orig i thought date was pretty much it15:16
gnomefreakwhen i get a spare minute i will try that tag. what are you trying to backport?15:17
asacgnomefreak: thats a branch tag not a tag ;)15:17
asacgnomefreak: not sure if you can combine branch tag and data15:18
asacdate15:18
asacin general that should work15:18
asacbut definitly not without mozilla-devscripts15:18
gnomefreaki said branch tag not tag and i doubt you can combine date and branch tag15:18
asacyeah. might be a missing feature15:19
asacfta2: ?15:19
gnomefreakdebian/rules get-orig-source MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH brings in 1.1.1415:19
BUGabundo1asac: any idea why NM won't mark as no network when the cable is removed15:20
BUGabundo1or back on, when plugged15:20
BUGabundo1on a SIS based laptop15:20
BUGabundo1with acpi off ?15:20
BUGabundo1it is as if it takes too long to detect the event15:20
BUGabundo1and even when connected to 100mb/s it falls down to 1015:21
BUGabundo1its a sis190 eth card15:21
BUGabundo1Foung a few bugs on it on LP15:21
gnomefreakhell my n-m shows no connection all the time15:22
BUGabundoasac: any idea why NM won't mark as no network when the cable is removed15:23
BUGabundoor back on, when plugged15:23
BUGabundoon a SIS based laptop15:23
BUGabundowith acpi off ?15:23
BUGabundoit is as if it takes too long to detect the event15:23
BUGabundoand even when connected to 100mb/s it falls down to 1015:23
BUGabundoit's a sis190 eth card15:23
asacBUGabundo: sorry. what is your bug?15:23
BUGabundonot sure yet15:24
asacBUGabundo: you start your system and plug in cable?15:24
BUGabundoa friends laptop15:24
asacand then network-manager doesnt connect or what?15:24
asacjaunty?15:24
BUGabundojust installed via wubi (over vista)15:24
BUGabundoacpi had to be OFF or wouldn't install15:24
BUGabundofrom syslog I just see lots of Auto-negotanting messages15:24
BUGabundodo you want the sys log?15:25
BUGabundono network on the machine! I'll have to copy15:25
asacBUGabundo: so the problem is that wired doesnt work?15:26
BUGabundoyep15:26
BUGabundowifi also doesn't detect any protected network15:26
asacBUGabundo: paste syslog ...15:26
BUGabundoonly 2 open wifi15:26
BUGabundook15:26
asacthats intrepid?15:26
BUGabundoyep15:26
BUGabundojust syslog??15:27
BUGabundosince I have to copy files from one pc to the other15:27
BUGabundothe less actions I take the best15:27
BUGabundohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/118862/15:28
asacBUGabundo: (eth0): carrier now ON (device state 2)15:29
asacdo you get that ON if you plug in the network?15:29
asaccable15:29
BUGabundoahh?15:29
BUGabundoON how?15:29
BUGabundoNM almost never changes state15:30
asacBUGabundo: if you unplug cable and plug it in again15:30
BUGabundoI can see an IP from ifconfig15:30
BUGabundoand a route from route -n15:30
asacdo you see soething like that in syslog?15:30
BUGabundobut ping doenst work15:30
BUGabundolet me try15:30
asacBUGabundo: oh15:30
BUGabundoremoving the cable adds NO entrie (immediately) to syslog15:30
asacBUGabundo: eth0 is unmanaged15:30
asac but well15:31
asacBUGabundo: yeah pöease check if you see something in your log on pluggin in15:31
BUGabundohumm ping now works but talkes like 5 sec just to show15:31
BUGabundoeverything seems SLOW15:31
BUGabundounder if it is because acpi is off15:31
asacBUGabundo: ok. so you can connect?15:31
asacBUGabundo: find /sys/ | grep eth0 | grep carrier15:32
asacthen cat /sys/....15:32
asacdoes that give oyu a 1 or 015:32
fta2<gnomefreak> debian/rules get-orig-source MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH brings in 1.1.14 <= the syntax is not valid, MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH is ignored15:32
jcastrohi asac15:33
fta2<asac> yeah. might be a missing feature: iirc, m-d supports that (tag and branch) but it doesn't make sense for some vcs15:33
BUGabundoasac: 115:33
jcastroasac: gwibber should be 1.0 before FF, can you put it in universe?15:33
BUGabundoand tx_carrier_errors is 015:33
asacjcastro: yes15:34
fta2should i stop tracking it then?15:35
asacjcastro: you can also ask fta ;)15:35
jcastroasac: fta only likes PPAs. :p15:35
asacreally?15:35
jcastroasac: if you do the initial 1.0 I can handle maintenance after that15:35
asacjcastro: so when will 1.0 be there?15:36
BUGabundoasac: network seem to be working now.... now idea what changed... still not sure it will work after reboot! doing upgrades now15:36
asacjcastro: can you ask him to apply the merge for the new actions system: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/365215:36
jcastroasac: before the deadline. :D15:36
jcastroasac: yep I was going to tell him as soon as he wakes up15:36
asacjcastro: give him a deadline like tomorrow ;)15:36
asacmorning15:36
asac;)15:36
jcastrook15:36
asacdoes FF start on thursday?15:37
BUGabundothe 19th15:37
jcastrohe will want more time for fixes, but that's what beta is for15:37
jcastroyeah15:37
asacright15:37
asacjcastro: he can also do a 1.0rc115:37
jcastronod15:37
asacand then we have for final 1.015:37
asacwith _just_ bug fixes - if possible at all ;)15:37
fta2jcastro, i said no for miro 2 because each time i tried to update it in the past, i've been ignored by the maintainers, so i gave up15:38
asacso is 19th the first frozen day or the last open one?15:38
asacfta2: by whom?15:38
fta2jcastro, but of course i prefer to have stuff in the repo15:38
asacdebian or ubuntu maintainers? or upstream?15:38
fta2ubuntu15:38
asac++ for stuff in repo15:39
asacfta2: who is ubuntu maintainer?15:39
jcastrofta2: ok so do you want to put gwibber in then?15:39
asacusually ubuntu doesnt have maintainers ;)15:39
asacjcastro: say to him that he should close gwibber for initial jaunty upload today at his end of day15:39
jcastrookay15:39
asacjcastro: if we upload tomorrow ... it might need a day or so to sink in15:39
jcastrohe will want more testing on this keyring stuff, but I have the day off so I can do it15:40
jcastrook15:40
asaci assume that archive admins are grateful about universe packages, but getting new stuff up before would be good15:40
jcastronod15:40
fta2asac, i don't remember, i filled bugs and/or i provided debdiffs and weeks/months after, someone jumped in to do the very same thing ignoring my work, it's frustrating, and a clear loss of time for me.15:41
jcastronext time let us know so we can fix the person15:42
asacfta2: well. its because nobody maintains it here. now that you can upload you can just upload ;)15:44
fta2now i'm motu so i can also push that myself, disregarding the approval of the previous uploaders but i prefer to ask15:44
asacfta2: yes. disregard the approval unless the package has a special maintainer15:45
asacthats how it works here in ubuntu15:45
asacfta2: ping ... wait a day (if you really want to be super nice) and do work then upload15:45
fta2jcastro, let me know for gwibber if they want a particular tag or revid as rc. I think it's in the gwibber/1.0 branch, not trunk in any case, so maybe the tip of it.15:46
jcastroyeah it's 1.015:47
jcastroI would like to get in asac's notification stuff though15:47
asacfta2: cool. just give him today to land final fixes. upload tomorrow ;)15:47
fta2is the gnome keyring stuff committed?15:47
jcastroyes15:47
jcastrothat's what I am testing today15:47
jcastrohe landed it last night15:47
fta2strange, i didn't receive the commit log15:48
fta2oh, i'm just tracking trunk15:48
asacoh15:48
asaci probably should ask for merge to 1.0 too15:48
asachmm15:48
asacnot sure if that applies there ;)15:48
fta2it should be in both15:48
asaclet me try anyway ;)15:48
fta2hm, nice paste site. look what google alert sent me: http://pastie.org/pastes/369737/15:50
asacjcastro: ok i explictly also asked for merge on 1.0 branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/365615:51
jcastrorock and roll15:51
asacseems 1.0 and trunk are currently the same (from the revision tip)15:51
jcastronod15:51
BUGabundoasac: after upgrades and reboot the card fails to work again :(15:55
BUGabundobut at least now WiFi works15:56
BUGabundolet me check if our EDUROAM works...15:56
BUGabundoif not ill collect logs for you15:57
BUGabundoeheheh asac: ROFL cable unplug, wifi not connect, red '?' on NM, but opening NM it show eth0 ON and WiFi connected15:58
BUGabundoehehe15:58
BUGabundowired gets IP and DNS, but connects at 10mb/s and fails to ping even local server!15:59
BUGabundofta will you have a daily gwibber ppa for version 1.0?16:00
fta2BUGabundo, universe16:00
BUGabundoreally? great16:00
BUGabundo  Candidate: 0.7.3~bzr237-0ubuntu1~daily116:01
fta2the daily ppa should jump over 1.0, it's tracking trunk16:01
BUGabundothis is all I have right now16:01
BUGabundook16:01
fta2not yet, i'll do that later today/tonight16:01
BUGabundothanks16:01
BUGabundoasac: if I change the NM from unmanage to manage, will it make any diference?16:02
asacBUGabundo: nope16:03
BUGabundookay16:04
BUGabundoit just keeps getting an IP and fails16:04
BUGabundowifi will not connect to wpa2 enterprise16:04
BUGabundoany idea on how to solve?16:05
BUGabundomanually copy PPAs debs?16:05
asacBUGabundo: nah. drivers seems to be bogus16:18
asacBUGabundo: if its really that bad only new kernel could give a relief16:19
BUGabundoyeha16:19
BUGabundoI see a line after grub warning about DUMMY acpi16:19
BUGabundotrying NM PPA to get WiFi working16:19
BUGabundoyou really should put that fix on -updates16:20
asacwhich fix?16:20
asac0.7 final= not possible. its abi incompatibly16:20
BUGabundobah!16:22
BUGabundoso users get stuck without working wpa enterprise until using PPA?16:22
asacBUGabundo: not true. its just that some enterprise types dont work16:23
BUGabundoyeah16:23
BUGabundoand there's a fix availble that I just found out won't get into the repos16:24
asacbecause its not available ... at least fo rtha tsnapshot16:32
asacif someone backports the mega-patches i am happy to review and drive the SRU forward16:33
fta2asac, just tested my 3G key (with the SIM that doesn't work) in an XP box, no problem, so it's ubuntu :(16:33
BUGabundothanks for explaing asac16:37
BUGabundonow how to make this eth card work??16:37
asacfta2: nobody claimed differnt16:41
asacfta2: you ned to get a serial log from XP to get a clue what is different i guess16:41
fta2i could have burnt it16:41
asacfta2: i would still suggest to use 0.7.1 from the ppa ... which should be built already16:41
fta2donno16:41
asacfta2: yeah. right checking makes sense16:42
fta2my last try was with your nm ppa16:42
asacfta2: yes. but today i uploaded 3 month more development ;)16:42
fta2oh, ok16:42
asacfta2: sigh ... i forgot the applet16:43
asacbastards16:43
asacso wait till in a few horus i guess ;)16:43
BUGabundoasac: what debs do I need to copy from PPA to make it work on ibex?16:45
asacBUGabundo: add ppa to sources.list ...and upgrade16:46
asacdist-upgrade16:46
asacBUGabundo: you need all fro network-manager and network-manager-applet16:46
asacand if you had a vpn plugin also that one16:46
asaci hope thats it ;)16:47
BUGabundoasac: NO network16:47
BUGabundomakes it kinda hard to upgrade16:47
BUGabundoneed vpn for open wifi, wpa enterprize won't work with archive version, and wired won't get online16:48
* BUGabundo SYS SUCKS16:48
asacBUGabundo: i said what you need to get16:49
asac;)16:49
BUGabundopackage names!16:49
BUGabundodon't want to misse one16:49
BUGabundothere are 40 debs on the PPA16:49
asacBUGabundo: _all_ packages that belong to the source packages i named16:49
asacBUGabundo: only look for intrepid16:50
BUGabundoyep16:50
BUGabundo0.7 or 0.7.1 ?16:50
BUGabundosince the applet seems to be missing16:50
asacBUGabundo: intrepid doesnt have 0.7.1 does it?16:51
BUGabundonot sure16:51
BUGabundoI just saw some .1 and remembered what you said a sec ago16:51
asacBUGabundo: you can filter by series16:51
asaclook for _intrepid_16:51
asachttps://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=intrepid16:51
fta2asac, plz make sure your commit in both branches so trunk is not late16:51
BUGabundohope I don't miss any libs https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/471999/+listing-archive-extra16:52
asacfta2: yeah16:52
asac(gwibber i guess)16:52
asacBUGabundo: network-manager-applet - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid116:52
asac network-manager - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid116:52
asac gnome-main-menu - 0.9.11+dfsg-0ubuntu2~nm1~intrepid216:52
BUGabundoyeah16:52
asacand if you have a plugin grab that too16:52
asactake all packages16:52
asacfrom those sources16:52
asacof course for _arch and _all16:53
BUGabundodo you have a tar with them all ?16:53
BUGabundoehehehe16:53
asacnope16:53
BUGabundohumm16:53
BUGabundocan I use apt to download them ?16:53
BUGabundojust DOWNLOAD?16:53
asacnot sure16:53
BUGabundolet me add the interpid repo to my sources16:53
BUGabundoit should be easier16:53
asacdo it manually16:53
asacits painful, but thats how it is if the network is down ;)16:53
asacalso if you can do wifi you can open up an adhoc net on your working system16:54
asacand go thorugh that16:54
BUGabundoI'm already using my wifi16:55
BUGabundoI'll just let synaptic download the deps16:55
asacso that works ;)16:57
BUGabundoI can't find  network-manager-applet16:59
asac network-manager-applet - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid117:00
asacis there ;)17:00
asacyou probably grabed 0.7.1 now17:00
BUGabundonop17:00
BUGabundousing synaptic and ibex ppa repo17:00
BUGabundoI have network-manager-gnome17:01
BUGabundobut not applet17:01
asacBUGabundo: thats the name man ;)17:01
asacsource package != binary package17:01
BUGabundook17:02
asacso you are all set ;)17:02
BUGabundothanks17:02
BUGabundototal 120017:02
BUGabundo-rw-r----- 1 root root      0 2009-02-09 17:35 lock17:02
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 431922 2008-12-26 22:00 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:02
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 626502 2008-12-26 22:20 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:02
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150598 2008-12-27 06:20 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:02
BUGabundodrwxr-xr-x 2 root root   4096 2009-02-16 17:02 partial17:03
asacBUGabundo: all the libs17:03
BUGabundois this it? no libs17:03
asaclibnm-*17:03
BUGabundohumm shouldn't syn have select those too?17:03
asacBUGabundo: I said all packages for the sources17:03
asaci have no clue ;)17:03
asacprobably not17:03
asacif you didnt install them for real17:03
asaci dont know the "download" feature of synaptic17:04
BUGabundoor are they forward compatible?17:04
BUGabundoI'm simulating a downgrade17:04
BUGabundototal 200017:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  62714 2008-12-26 22:00 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  62772 2009-02-16 14:04 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  97938 2008-12-26 22:00 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 100128 2009-02-16 14:04 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r----- 1 root root      0 2009-02-09 17:35 lock17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 431922 2008-12-26 22:00 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 303952 2009-02-16 14:04 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 626502 2008-12-26 22:20 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150598 2008-12-27 06:20 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundo-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 152400 2009-02-16 14:04 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb17:05
BUGabundodrwxr-xr-x 2 root root   4096 2009-02-16 17:05 partial17:05
BUGabundoSTUPID ME17:07
BUGabundodownloaded the 64bits not 3217:07
BUGabundoDUH17:07
asacheh17:07
BUGabundols -l /media/FLASHPEN/nm17:12
BUGabundototal 148817:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  55104 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  98660 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-glib-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  90192 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  91768 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-util-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 402642 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root   6360 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 614100 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundo-rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 145652 2009-02-16 17:10 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb17:12
BUGabundohope it works now17:12
BUGabundoUAU17:15
BUGabundoSTUPID me twice17:15
BUGabundosome how WUBI installed the 64 bits version17:15
BUGabundoROFL17:15
BUGabundoso the 1st time was the correct version17:15
BUGabundoI had no idea wubi installed 64 bits17:16
ftaasac, you seems to like velib stories: http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/parisian-bike-rental-schemes-future-in-doubt.html18:59
asacfta: yes ;)19:02
ftapoor bike :P19:02
asacfta: :(19:03
asacfta: hope they find a solution19:04
asacwould be a shame19:04
saivannasac : ping19:05
ftathere's a 10y contract with the city so they'll have to do with it, or pay19:06
ftaasac, jcastro: i don't see any recent commit in the 2 gwibber branches. still #237 for both from 6 days ago. did i miss something?19:20
jcastrofta: he's pushing today19:21
jcastrothe keyring stuff19:22
jcastroI thought he pushed it yesterday, my bad19:22
ftaok, thanks. would be nice if they could add a tag19:22
ftaand bump the trunk version higher than 1.019:23
=== asac_ is now known as asac
saivannasac : ping19:46
asacsaivann: hi. sorry do you have the link again?19:48
asac(i lost it because it was in /tmp/ and my thing didnt wake up on resume ;))19:49
saivannasac : You're speaking about this ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sunbird-locales/+bug/32463519:49
BUGabundo1asac: ehehe time to run ~pete script19:49
ubottuUbuntu bug 324635 in sunbird-locales "lightning-extension-locales needs update" [High,In progress]19:49
BUGabundo1and debug that resume19:49
asacsaivann: not sure ;) .. the tarball with everything i ment19:50
asaclet me look19:50
saivannasac : At the same time, I did some work on thunderbird 3b2 to implement rosetta and everything looks great, but I don't know how I can do to know if I done things well. My work is here : http://upload.leservicetechnique.com/bugs/thunderbird-3.0_3.0~b2~hg20090208r1892+nobinonly-0ubuntu1.tar.gz19:51
asacsaivann: do you have a debdiff or something?19:52
saivannasac : wait a few seconds19:52
asacsaivann: or even a branch you could push?19:52
saivannasac : I can push a bzr branch if a few minutes19:55
asacsaivann: for tbird that would be helpful. yes19:56
asacsaivann: you didnt document the droppage of the da.diff ;)19:58
asacbut thats ok19:58
saivannOh, right.20:02
ftaasac, is sunbird daily-ready? a few people asked me about it20:03
ftawell, obviously, tb3 needs some love 1st :P20:04
saivannasac : Just pushed my work to https://code.launchpad.net/~saivann/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.0-rosetta20:11
saivannasac : I already tested that this branch builds and it builds correctly, I just don't know if translation process is correctly done. MOZ_TRANSLATION_AUTO_XPI_OUTDIR does not exist after build in debian folder.20:12
asacsaivann: yeah. we should just check i think ;)20:15
asacwell ... not that easy though. at least if we cannot put in new tbird20:15
asacto jaunty20:15
asacbut for karmic this will automatically happen20:15
saivannasac : I didn't know that next release is named karmic :)20:16
saivannasac : Anyway, that part of the work is done, we'll have the opportunity to test it later20:17
asacsaivann: both uploaded20:17
saivannasac : Thank you20:17
asacsaivann: me neither ... could be anything :)20:17
saivannasac : hehe :)20:17
saivannasac : I'll let my branch as it is, don't hesitate to ping me if you need me to do something on it later.20:18
asacsaivann: i think ask for merge so it doesnt get lost20:19
asacshould be enough20:19
asacdamn ...20:19
asacnow i have ot really think what i have to do before FF20:19
asactime is running as low as always :)20:19
asacoh ... maybe looking through firefox-extensions20:20
asaci guess gnomefreak thinks he has a few ready20:20
asacfta: are you on gwibber ;)? i think they merged my thing already ... so maybe they are ready for go20:21
asacsaivann: By  zxz <zxz@zxz-desktop>   21 minutes ago20:25
asacsaivann: sure you want that kind of credit i nbzr log?20:25
asacsaivann: consider to recommit20:25
asacthats what i see on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~saivann/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.0-rosetta/+merge/366420:26
saivannasac : Yes I actually don't know how to change this. That is probably easy but, let me search a bit20:26
asacsaivann: in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf i have20:28
asac[DEFAULT]20:28
asacemail = Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com>20:28
asacbuild-dir = /tmp/build20:28
asaclaunchpad_username = asac20:28
asacscratc build-dir20:28
asacthat is senseless20:28
asacthere20:28
asacbut email and launchpad_...20:29
asacmakes sensi ;)20:29
saivannasac : Thanks, I'll keep a copy of this file so I don't forget it. I'm going to re-push in a few minutes20:30
asacsure20:31
asacsaivann: is the  id in install.rdf.in right?20:33
asaci think it should be {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}20:33
asacat least thats what in /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/application.ini20:33
saivannasac : You might be right, I used the ID from en-US locale. I'll adapt this in my push20:34
asacsaivann: which en-US locale?20:35
asacthe firefox one?20:35
saivannasac : No I took the thunderbird one, did I make a mistake here too O_o20:35
asacsaivann: sigh. as alaway i cannot find the list on mdc20:39
asacthtas just annyoing.20:39
asacthey named the page in such a way that i never find it20:39
asaci would look for mozilla apps uuid20:39
ftaasac, i may be blind but i still see #237: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber20:41
asacsaivann: so they also use <em:id>{3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}</em:id>20:41
saivannasac : Mmh, so you're not sure that 3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6 is the right one?20:41
asacin othe3 rlocales20:41
asacsaivann: i am 99.99% sure20:41
asacactually 10020:42
saivannasac : That seems acceptable :)20:42
asacfta: hmm ... it has approval. can you land it?20:42
asachttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/365620:43
asacapproved for 1.0 branch landing20:43
ftai'm not in gwibber-committers, am i?20:44
asacfta: thoguth you are ;)20:45
ftai'm in gwibber-team, not gwibber-committers20:45
asacah ok.20:45
ftajust played world of goo, excellent :)20:46
asacjcastro: dont forget to land the merge (approved for 1.0) before you do the 1.0rc release20:46
asac;)20:46
asacfta: whats that?20:46
ftaa game20:46
asaci could have guessed that20:47
ftahttp://www.worldofgoo.com/20:47
ftathere's a demo deb for ubuntu20:47
saivannfta : This game is awesome, I bought it and participated in the beta for linux :)20:48
ftareminded me of lemmings20:48
ftaplus something of crazy machines20:49
asachmm ... no time until after FF i guess20:49
fta:)20:49
ftayou can complete the demo in half an hour20:50
ftamaybe less20:50
saivannasac : the branch is pushed and updated, thanks20:50
ftahmn, i see a black square as avatar for maco in gwibber..20:51
ftaoh, nm, on identica too20:55
fta"Avatar blacked out in opposition to New Zealand's Guilty-Upon-Accusation internet copyright infringement laws"20:55
* asac tests some modem plug-in/plug-out thing20:57
ftaasac, btw, my usb key is working now. could it be that xp fixed it? ;)20:59
asacfta: yes. could have been a lock21:48
asacfta: often providers lock the sim until you first use their proprietary software to unlock it21:49
asacyou can ask the store to do that21:49
asacits really a messy situation ... you should have snooped on the serial device and then reserve engineer it21:49
ftanothing we can do, i don't want to have to install windows just for that21:49
fta?21:49
asacreverse21:49
asacfta: no. its usually proprietary code ... only reverse engineering would help21:50
ftahm, next time it happens then21:50
asacyeah. though i wouldnt even know how to do21:50
asacfta: but i doubt it will happen again ;)21:50
asacuntil you get a new sim21:50
ftathat key/sim worked several times on ubuntu before i even plugged it in once in an xp21:52
ftai mean, i 1st used it /w ubuntu, not windows21:52
fta#238 just appeared in trunk22:01
ftawould be nice if the bazaar applet was able to monitor remote branches22:02
fta... and chroots22:02
fta#238 in 1.0 too22:03
* asac found the "sort by number of duplicates" feature of bugs.l.n22:05
ftaso now, both branches are gwibber 0.8 with the GNOME keyring stuff. why is everyone asking for 1.0 then??22:16
ftahttp://www.workswithu.com/2009/02/16/dell-ubuntu-netbooks-on-sale-or-are-they/22:18
asacfta: are you on 0.7.1 yet?22:28
asacfta: i plan to upload that tomorrow. would be great to get some brave feedback ;)22:29
asacpretty harmless imo as its just a stable maintenance branch22:29
ftaeh?22:56
ftaoh #239, your notification patch is in22:56
ftaasac, ^^22:56
ftastill no difference between the 2 branches22:57
ftaso both are now 0.822:57
ftaat 4am, the bot will catch up22:57
asacfta: cool23:01
asacfta: can you check package for proper copyright file and then upload that ?23:02
asacjcastro: ?23:02
asacis gwibber ready ;)23:02
ftai'm currently looking if gnomekeyring needs a new dep or not23:02
ftait's in python-gnome2-desktop23:02
ftabut the code is optional, should i be a dep, or a rec ?23:03
jcastroasac: he's pushed it, let me ask23:03
fta-i+it23:03
jcastroasac: yep, it's all ready23:04
asacjcastro: so current tip is 0.7rc1?23:05
ftajcastro, it's 0.8 now, is it supposed to stay like that? or 1.0rc1?23:05
asacor how is it called ;)23:05
jcastrolet me find out23:05
jcastrohe's calling this one .823:06
ftaok23:06
asacjcastro: so does he plan to release 1.0 for jaunty?23:06
jcastroasac: yeah23:06
ftai guess adding python-gnome2-desktop as a dep will make kde people angry, right?23:06
asacjcastro: its easier to sneak 1rc1 - 1 upgrade in than a 0.8 to 1.023:06
jcastrofta: it needs the keyring for secure passwords23:06
asacat lesat the lattter probably needs a document about what changes were made23:07
asacwhile the other will probably just be assumed ok ;)23:07
jcastroasac: does the number actually matter if the changelog is all fixes?23:07
asacjcastro: a) does gwibber ship a changelog?23:07
jcastrowell, the bzr changelog23:07
asacyes, but then you have to proof the upload23:08
ftaasac, no, it doesn't23:08
asacwhile 1.0rc1 to 1.0 will just slip in and nobody notice ;)23:08
jcastroyou really think so?23:08
jcastrothat sounds kind of dumb, but whatever you think is best23:08
jcastrolet me tell him23:08
asacjcastro: i am not an oracle. its just that the freeze producer means that "micro" version bumps are usually ok23:09
ftatrunk is now ahead...23:09
ftajcastro, do you want to remain the only maintainer or should i change that to motu?23:09
asacjcastro: in the end all that matters is what changes ... only that the process can happen to be more lightweight with some luck23:10
jcastrofta: change it to motu, if I need to do something I'll just debdiff and put it in the sponsorship queue23:10
ftaok23:10
jcastroasac: let's just leave it at .8 for now23:11
jcastrothey're in bugfix only mode anyway23:11
asacwhatever ;) ... at least i tried. if it now gets stuck at 0.8 for final its the gwibbers-guy fault ;)23:12
asacnot saying that this will happen ;)23:12
jcastrowell, only fixes are going into that branch23:12
jcastroI'll just argue with whoever if it comes up. :D23:12
asacjcastro: good idea. you will do whatever paperwork comes up after FF  ;)23:13
jcastro<323:13
asachehe23:13
asacfta: have you tried to disconnect/reconnect multiple times23:14
asacon 3g?23:14
ftayes23:14
asacdo you sometimes end up in a state where NM doesnt even spin, but just fails?23:15
ftabut i usually eject the key23:15
asacand restarting NM works?23:15
asacfta: can you replug key infinite amount of times? or do you get in a bad state at some point?23:15
ftaand it creates a new instance of the connection23:15
asaccreates new instance, yes.23:15
ftaif you mean without unplugging the key, i need to test that23:16
asacfta: have you checkd lshal | grep capabili.*modem ?23:16
asacif they double its a udev/hal bug23:16
asacfta: yes either that ... or repluggin like 10 times ;)23:16
asacboth are interesting things ;)23:16
ftano modem listed in lshal (the key is out)23:18
ftaneither in lsusb23:18
ftajcastro, just to be sure, gwibber 0.8 is just a random revision (=239)? no tag? no official tarball? no nothing?23:21
ftadebian would hate that for sure23:22
jcastroheh, let me ask him to do a tarball?23:22
jcastrojust do 239 for now23:22
jcastrothen from now on we'll ask them to roll a tarball?23:23
asacjcastro: dont need to. just tag is ok23:24
ftaok, but if they can roll one now, it's even better.23:24
ftaor a tag, yes23:24
asacjcastro: we can use --export-upstream from bzr-builddeb23:24
asacjcastro: as long as we are a small group even a RELEASE commit would be good23:25
ftacan't lp alrady export tarballs?23:25
fta+e23:25
asace.g. just a version bump commit23:25
asacfta: bzr export can do that.23:26
asacbut you probabl yknow that23:26
asacor was it bzr archive23:26
* asac confused about git, bzr hg23:26
jcastroasac: ok I'll ask him to do that23:26
ftajcastro, while you're at it, please ask them to bump trunk to 0.8.1 or something, it has to be higher then the release branch, to keep the dailies ahead23:27
ftathan23:28
asac++23:28
fta?23:29
asac++ == agree23:29
ftai say ++ when i leave ;)23:30
asac+123:30
asac==23:30
asac++23:30
asac==23:30
asacack23:30
ftado we have a need packaging bug for gwibber?23:30
asacjcastro: ^^ ?23:30
asacpaperboy :-P23:31
asachehe23:31
ftalol23:31
ftasorry23:31
asacnot sure if we need a packaging branch though23:31
asacerr bug23:31
asacles see if someone has complains about the new ppp yet ;)23:33
asaclast bug filed: bug 30913523:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 309135 in ppp "pppd is not executable after update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30913523:33
asacbut thats from december23:33
* asac triages ppp bugs23:36
asacclosed 5% ;) ... now down to 1823:37
asacerr even 1623:37
ftapff, >1500 needs-packaging bugs23:40
asacthey should really package them in debian23:40
asacotherwise debian packages it and then stuff gets duplicated23:40
asacbtw, jcastro so upload gwibber to debian too?23:41
fta166 of those are linked to debian23:41
asacheh23:41
asacyeah. probably the right way to triage them ;)23:41
asacjust forward23:42
asacupstream23:42
asaclol23:42
asacbut still better than just doing nothing i would guess23:42
asacbut 1500 is really high23:42
asacmust be lot of crap ;)23:42
ftahttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging23:43
ftahttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging23:43
ftaadding python-gnome2-desktop to Depends....23:45
asacbug 10238423:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 102384 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Mugshot" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10238423:46
asac-> invalid license as it seems23:46
asacfta: does gwibber need that?23:46
ftaneed what?23:46
asacpython-gnome2-desktop23:46
ftafor the gnome keyring, yes23:47
ftato do "import gnomekeyring"23:47
asacfta: isnt there a package just for python keyring?23:47
asacerr python gnome keyring ;)23:47
asac(me has no clue about python packaging)23:47
fta/usr/lib/python-support/python-gnome2-desktop/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gnomekeyring.so23:47
fta/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gnomekeyring.so23:47
asacseems not ;)23:48
asacyeah23:48
fta2 lintian warnings left: binary-without-manpage and embedded-javascript-library23:51
asacembedded javascript lib?23:51
asacwhats that?23:51
ftajquery.js23:51
ftacopies23:52
fta423:52
asachow is that used?23:52
ftaW: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/default/jquery.js23:52
ftaW: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/defaultsmall/jquery.js23:52
ftaW: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/funkatron/jquery.js23:52
ftaW: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/shine/jquery.js23:52
ftain the theme apparently23:52
asachmm ... i think it has code to use some html renderer23:52
asacbut its ddisabled for now23:52
asacbut its ddisabled forso opk23:52
asachuh23:53
asachuhwhat did i write ;)23:53
ftalol23:53
asacthats a bug23:53
ftawhat?23:53
asaci definitly didnt repeat the line23:53
asac00:52 < asac> hmm ... i think it has code to use some html renderer23:53
asac00:52 < asac> but its ddisabled for now23:53
asac00:52 < asac> but its ddisabled forso opk23:53
asac00:53 < asac> huh23:53
asac00:53 < asac> huhwhat did i write ;)23:53
asacdo yo usee the same?23:53
ftayes23:53
asacsee23:53
asaci just typed fast ;)23:53
asachuh <enter> what did i write23:53
asacand huh was duplicated to second line23:54
asacsame for the first dupe ;)23:54
ftad'oh23:54
asacsecond line was actually just "so ok"23:54
asacwell "so opk" as it seems23:54
asacoh no ... even screen is falling apart now23:55
asacor irssi23:55
asacnot sure what shocks me more23:55
* asac pulls new git linux-3.6 snapshot23:56
ftaok, gwibber_0.8~bzr239-0ubuntu1 ready, i can still feed a real tarball23:57
asachmm ... no commits since rc523:57
asaclame ;)23:57
asacthought on kernel tree there would be bunch of commits every day ;)23:57
asacmaybe i shouldnt track linux23:57
asaclinus23:57
ftashould i push 0.8 to universe right now? or should I bump to gwibber ppa with 0.8~bzr239 and wait for a tarball or a tag?23:59
fta-bump+push23:59

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