[00:08] fta: the ratelimit module doesn't actually limit the sounds, only the logging currently [00:09] dtchen, hm, when i hear a glitch, i also see those ratelimit logs [00:26] dtchen, and i also have a lot of E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail_update() returned 0. [00:26] E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail_update() returned 0. [00:27] fta: right, i've changed the conditional in jaunty's package for that logging [00:27] e.g., if you disable glitch-free, you'll get that message erroneously spammed to your syslog [00:28] dtchen, i'm running 0.9.15~test2-0ubuntu1~ppa1 [00:29] damn openarena, i want it back, i need my shot [00:31] fta: i'll take a look at ~test2 shortly - just need to verify some pending changes [10:39] jtv: hi [10:39] jtv: maybe those import errors come from translators trying to upload their own thing ? [10:40] jtv: or do we know that this is from importing the upstream .xpis? [10:40] jtv: can you find out who uploaded that? if it was arne then its something we should take a closer look at immo [11:02] asac: did you take a look at my FON bug? [11:09] nope [11:10] okay [11:10] BUGabundo: i will upload 0.7.1 to ppa in a few minutes. maybe check your bugs on that too [11:11] at least for me 3g became more stable due to diligent use of AT commands [11:12] nice [11:12] will NM ever show 3G connection speed/mode? [11:12] being on UMTS and HDSPA makes a lot of diference [11:16] BUGabundo: it will once we have modemmanager [11:16] BUGabundo: upstream has added that for 0.8 [11:16] but thats going to take a while until its stable [11:16] also bluetooth and other work will be done there [11:17] \0/ [11:18] and will allow me to set default network? and not default too wired, and then wifi? [11:18] eeheh cause currently I can't share 3G, or Wifi if I have wired hooked [11:18] unless I manage to get that metrics thing [11:19] BUGabundo: i dont think that upstream is really aware of that problem. i will ask [11:19] but he isnt wake up yet [11:19] remind me in a few hours ;) [11:19] I did... its on the bug! [11:22] of course this is a corner case, but still winxp sp2 does this nicelly [11:22] BUGabundo: thats not reminding ;) [11:22] i read bugmail once a day [11:22] heehheheh [11:22] really? wow [11:22] that will accumulate a lot of bug mail [11:22] I read mine a few more times then that [11:24] BUGabundo: i dont read all bugmail even [11:24] my bugfolder contains like 30K new mails since i ushed the reset button in December [11:24] BUGabundo: feel free to subscribe to ubuntu-mozillabugs mailing list ;) [11:25] hheeheh [11:26] been there, and got out [11:26] actually it as ubuntu bugs [11:26] lasted 1 week [11:27] yeah ubuntu bugs is much worth even ;) [11:28] well ... doesnt make a big difference [11:28] either you can stay on top or you dont [11:28] i cannot stay on top so i rely on some smart filtering tools to at least get some bug mail processed [11:34] ahh [11:34] so many bugs fall under the radar! [11:35] i try to keep up with titles [11:35] also i do 72 hour bug sessions every now and then [11:36] and yes. i mostly rely that important issues get escalated somehow [11:37] yeah [12:09] asac: can't now, I'm sprinting—but look in the import queue. [12:09] jtv: heh [12:09] ok [12:09] i will ask arne to do that [12:10] oh well ... let me check [12:25] seems like gl and sg were uploaded as .xpi [12:25] interestingly enough .gl also got a po upload [12:25] but i guess thats not related === jtv is now known as jtv-sprint [14:48] * gnomefreak wonders why 1.1.15 hasnt been started on for seamonkey. maybe no fixes landed yet [15:00] gnomefreak: everything but one fix has landed [15:00] gnomefreak: and its me who probably has to do that (too) [15:00] get-orig says it doesnt have version on server [15:01] as i said last week, the get-orig of sm1 is not using m-d [15:01] so it's not tracking snapshots [15:02] otoh, it's not that difficult to make it use m-d [15:03] fta2: get-orig error is when trying to get 1.1.15 [15:04] oh no snapshots nm [15:15] gnomefreak: there is no tag yet [15:15] gnomefreak: you can use latest MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH to produce a snapstho [15:15] but there will be one commit before 1.1.15 at least [15:15] i just have to do that backport - which was a bit complicated [15:16] i didnt relize you could use branch tag with get-orig i thought date was pretty much it [15:17] when i get a spare minute i will try that tag. what are you trying to backport? [15:17] gnomefreak: thats a branch tag not a tag ;) [15:18] gnomefreak: not sure if you can combine branch tag and data [15:18] date [15:18] in general that should work [15:18] but definitly not without mozilla-devscripts [15:18] i said branch tag not tag and i doubt you can combine date and branch tag [15:19] yeah. might be a missing feature [15:19] fta2: ? [15:19] debian/rules get-orig-source MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH brings in 1.1.14 [15:20] asac: any idea why NM won't mark as no network when the cable is removed [15:20] or back on, when plugged [15:20] on a SIS based laptop [15:20] with acpi off ? [15:20] it is as if it takes too long to detect the event [15:21] and even when connected to 100mb/s it falls down to 10 [15:21] its a sis190 eth card [15:21] Foung a few bugs on it on LP [15:22] hell my n-m shows no connection all the time [15:23] asac: any idea why NM won't mark as no network when the cable is removed [15:23] or back on, when plugged [15:23] on a SIS based laptop [15:23] with acpi off ? [15:23] it is as if it takes too long to detect the event [15:23] and even when connected to 100mb/s it falls down to 10 [15:23] it's a sis190 eth card [15:23] BUGabundo: sorry. what is your bug? [15:24] not sure yet [15:24] BUGabundo: you start your system and plug in cable? [15:24] a friends laptop [15:24] and then network-manager doesnt connect or what? [15:24] jaunty? [15:24] just installed via wubi (over vista) [15:24] acpi had to be OFF or wouldn't install [15:24] from syslog I just see lots of Auto-negotanting messages [15:25] do you want the sys log? [15:25] no network on the machine! I'll have to copy [15:26] BUGabundo: so the problem is that wired doesnt work? [15:26] yep [15:26] wifi also doesn't detect any protected network [15:26] BUGabundo: paste syslog ... [15:26] only 2 open wifi [15:26] ok [15:26] thats intrepid? [15:26] yep [15:27] just syslog?? [15:27] since I have to copy files from one pc to the other [15:27] the less actions I take the best [15:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/118862/ [15:29] BUGabundo: (eth0): carrier now ON (device state 2) [15:29] do you get that ON if you plug in the network? [15:29] cable [15:29] ahh? [15:29] ON how? [15:30] NM almost never changes state [15:30] BUGabundo: if you unplug cable and plug it in again [15:30] I can see an IP from ifconfig [15:30] and a route from route -n [15:30] do you see soething like that in syslog? [15:30] but ping doenst work [15:30] let me try [15:30] BUGabundo: oh [15:30] removing the cable adds NO entrie (immediately) to syslog [15:30] BUGabundo: eth0 is unmanaged [15:31] but well [15:31] BUGabundo: yeah pöease check if you see something in your log on pluggin in [15:31] humm ping now works but talkes like 5 sec just to show [15:31] everything seems SLOW [15:31] under if it is because acpi is off [15:31] BUGabundo: ok. so you can connect? [15:32] BUGabundo: find /sys/ | grep eth0 | grep carrier [15:32] then cat /sys/.... [15:32] does that give oyu a 1 or 0 [15:32] debian/rules get-orig-source MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH brings in 1.1.14 <= the syntax is not valid, MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH is ignored [15:33] hi asac [15:33] yeah. might be a missing feature: iirc, m-d supports that (tag and branch) but it doesn't make sense for some vcs [15:33] asac: 1 [15:33] asac: gwibber should be 1.0 before FF, can you put it in universe? [15:33] and tx_carrier_errors is 0 [15:34] jcastro: yes [15:35] should i stop tracking it then? [15:35] jcastro: you can also ask fta ;) [15:35] asac: fta only likes PPAs. :p [15:35] really? [15:35] asac: if you do the initial 1.0 I can handle maintenance after that [15:36] jcastro: so when will 1.0 be there? [15:36] asac: network seem to be working now.... now idea what changed... still not sure it will work after reboot! doing upgrades now [15:36] jcastro: can you ask him to apply the merge for the new actions system: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/3652 [15:36] asac: before the deadline. :D [15:36] asac: yep I was going to tell him as soon as he wakes up [15:36] jcastro: give him a deadline like tomorrow ;) [15:36] morning [15:36] ;) [15:36] ok [15:37] does FF start on thursday? [15:37] the 19th [15:37] he will want more time for fixes, but that's what beta is for [15:37] yeah [15:37] right [15:37] jcastro: he can also do a 1.0rc1 [15:37] nod [15:37] and then we have for final 1.0 [15:37] with _just_ bug fixes - if possible at all ;) [15:38] jcastro, i said no for miro 2 because each time i tried to update it in the past, i've been ignored by the maintainers, so i gave up [15:38] so is 19th the first frozen day or the last open one? [15:38] fta2: by whom? [15:38] jcastro, but of course i prefer to have stuff in the repo [15:38] debian or ubuntu maintainers? or upstream? [15:38] ubuntu [15:39] ++ for stuff in repo [15:39] fta2: who is ubuntu maintainer? [15:39] fta2: ok so do you want to put gwibber in then? [15:39] usually ubuntu doesnt have maintainers ;) [15:39] jcastro: say to him that he should close gwibber for initial jaunty upload today at his end of day [15:39] okay [15:39] jcastro: if we upload tomorrow ... it might need a day or so to sink in [15:40] he will want more testing on this keyring stuff, but I have the day off so I can do it [15:40] ok [15:40] i assume that archive admins are grateful about universe packages, but getting new stuff up before would be good [15:40] nod [15:41] asac, i don't remember, i filled bugs and/or i provided debdiffs and weeks/months after, someone jumped in to do the very same thing ignoring my work, it's frustrating, and a clear loss of time for me. [15:42] next time let us know so we can fix the person [15:44] fta2: well. its because nobody maintains it here. now that you can upload you can just upload ;) [15:44] now i'm motu so i can also push that myself, disregarding the approval of the previous uploaders but i prefer to ask [15:45] fta2: yes. disregard the approval unless the package has a special maintainer [15:45] thats how it works here in ubuntu [15:45] fta2: ping ... wait a day (if you really want to be super nice) and do work then upload [15:46] jcastro, let me know for gwibber if they want a particular tag or revid as rc. I think it's in the gwibber/1.0 branch, not trunk in any case, so maybe the tip of it. [15:47] yeah it's 1.0 [15:47] I would like to get in asac's notification stuff though [15:47] fta2: cool. just give him today to land final fixes. upload tomorrow ;) [15:47] is the gnome keyring stuff committed? [15:47] yes [15:47] that's what I am testing today [15:47] he landed it last night [15:48] strange, i didn't receive the commit log [15:48] oh, i'm just tracking trunk [15:48] oh [15:48] i probably should ask for merge to 1.0 too [15:48] hmm [15:48] not sure if that applies there ;) [15:48] it should be in both [15:48] let me try anyway ;) [15:50] hm, nice paste site. look what google alert sent me: http://pastie.org/pastes/369737/ [15:51] jcastro: ok i explictly also asked for merge on 1.0 branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/3656 [15:51] rock and roll [15:51] seems 1.0 and trunk are currently the same (from the revision tip) [15:51] nod [15:55] asac: after upgrades and reboot the card fails to work again :( [15:56] but at least now WiFi works [15:56] let me check if our EDUROAM works... [15:57] if not ill collect logs for you [15:58] eheheh asac: ROFL cable unplug, wifi not connect, red '?' on NM, but opening NM it show eth0 ON and WiFi connected [15:58] ehehe [15:59] wired gets IP and DNS, but connects at 10mb/s and fails to ping even local server! [16:00] fta will you have a daily gwibber ppa for version 1.0? [16:00] BUGabundo, universe [16:00] really? great [16:01] Candidate: 0.7.3~bzr237-0ubuntu1~daily1 [16:01] the daily ppa should jump over 1.0, it's tracking trunk [16:01] this is all I have right now [16:01] ok [16:01] not yet, i'll do that later today/tonight [16:01] thanks [16:02] asac: if I change the NM from unmanage to manage, will it make any diference? [16:03] BUGabundo: nope [16:04] okay [16:04] it just keeps getting an IP and fails [16:04] wifi will not connect to wpa2 enterprise [16:05] any idea on how to solve? [16:05] manually copy PPAs debs? [16:18] BUGabundo: nah. drivers seems to be bogus [16:19] BUGabundo: if its really that bad only new kernel could give a relief [16:19] yeha [16:19] I see a line after grub warning about DUMMY acpi [16:19] trying NM PPA to get WiFi working [16:20] you really should put that fix on -updates [16:20] which fix? [16:20] 0.7 final= not possible. its abi incompatibly [16:22] bah! [16:22] so users get stuck without working wpa enterprise until using PPA? [16:23] BUGabundo: not true. its just that some enterprise types dont work [16:23] yeah [16:24] and there's a fix availble that I just found out won't get into the repos [16:32] because its not available ... at least fo rtha tsnapshot [16:33] if someone backports the mega-patches i am happy to review and drive the SRU forward [16:33] asac, just tested my 3G key (with the SIM that doesn't work) in an XP box, no problem, so it's ubuntu :( [16:37] thanks for explaing asac [16:37] now how to make this eth card work?? [16:41] fta2: nobody claimed differnt [16:41] fta2: you ned to get a serial log from XP to get a clue what is different i guess [16:41] i could have burnt it [16:41] fta2: i would still suggest to use 0.7.1 from the ppa ... which should be built already [16:41] donno [16:42] fta2: yeah. right checking makes sense [16:42] my last try was with your nm ppa [16:42] fta2: yes. but today i uploaded 3 month more development ;) [16:42] oh, ok [16:43] fta2: sigh ... i forgot the applet [16:43] bastards [16:43] so wait till in a few horus i guess ;) [16:45] asac: what debs do I need to copy from PPA to make it work on ibex? [16:46] BUGabundo: add ppa to sources.list ...and upgrade [16:46] dist-upgrade [16:46] BUGabundo: you need all fro network-manager and network-manager-applet [16:46] and if you had a vpn plugin also that one [16:47] i hope thats it ;) [16:47] asac: NO network [16:47] makes it kinda hard to upgrade [16:48] need vpn for open wifi, wpa enterprize won't work with archive version, and wired won't get online [16:48] * BUGabundo SYS SUCKS [16:49] BUGabundo: i said what you need to get [16:49] ;) [16:49] package names! [16:49] don't want to misse one [16:49] there are 40 debs on the PPA [16:49] BUGabundo: _all_ packages that belong to the source packages i named [16:50] BUGabundo: only look for intrepid [16:50] yep [16:50] 0.7 or 0.7.1 ? [16:50] since the applet seems to be missing [16:51] BUGabundo: intrepid doesnt have 0.7.1 does it? [16:51] not sure [16:51] I just saw some .1 and remembered what you said a sec ago [16:51] BUGabundo: you can filter by series [16:51] look for _intrepid_ [16:51] https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=intrepid [16:51] asac, plz make sure your commit in both branches so trunk is not late [16:52] hope I don't miss any libs https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/471999/+listing-archive-extra [16:52] fta2: yeah [16:52] (gwibber i guess) [16:52] BUGabundo: network-manager-applet - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1 [16:52] network-manager - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1 [16:52] gnome-main-menu - 0.9.11+dfsg-0ubuntu2~nm1~intrepid2 [16:52] yeah [16:52] and if you have a plugin grab that too [16:52] take all packages [16:52] from those sources [16:53] of course for _arch and _all [16:53] do you have a tar with them all ? [16:53] ehehehe [16:53] nope [16:53] humm [16:53] can I use apt to download them ? [16:53] just DOWNLOAD? [16:53] not sure [16:53] let me add the interpid repo to my sources [16:53] it should be easier [16:53] do it manually [16:53] its painful, but thats how it is if the network is down ;) [16:54] also if you can do wifi you can open up an adhoc net on your working system [16:54] and go thorugh that [16:55] I'm already using my wifi [16:55] I'll just let synaptic download the deps [16:57] so that works ;) [16:59] I can't find network-manager-applet [17:00] network-manager-applet - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1 [17:00] is there ;) [17:00] you probably grabed 0.7.1 now [17:00] nop [17:00] using synaptic and ibex ppa repo [17:01] I have network-manager-gnome [17:01] but not applet [17:01] BUGabundo: thats the name man ;) [17:01] source package != binary package [17:02] ok [17:02] so you are all set ;) [17:02] thanks [17:02] total 1200 [17:02] -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2009-02-09 17:35 lock [17:02] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 431922 2008-12-26 22:00 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:02] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 626502 2008-12-26 22:20 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:02] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150598 2008-12-27 06:20 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:03] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-02-16 17:02 partial [17:03] BUGabundo: all the libs [17:03] is this it? no libs [17:03] libnm-* [17:03] humm shouldn't syn have select those too? [17:03] BUGabundo: I said all packages for the sources [17:03] i have no clue ;) [17:03] probably not [17:03] if you didnt install them for real [17:04] i dont know the "download" feature of synaptic [17:04] or are they forward compatible? [17:04] I'm simulating a downgrade [17:05] total 2000 [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62714 2008-12-26 22:00 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 62772 2009-02-16 14:04 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 97938 2008-12-26 22:00 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 100128 2009-02-16 14:04 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 2009-02-09 17:35 lock [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 431922 2008-12-26 22:00 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 303952 2009-02-16 14:04 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 626502 2008-12-26 22:20 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150598 2008-12-27 06:20 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb [17:05] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 152400 2009-02-16 14:04 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [17:05] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-02-16 17:05 partial [17:07] STUPID ME [17:07] downloaded the 64bits not 32 [17:07] DUH [17:07] heh [17:12] ls -l /media/FLASHPEN/nm [17:12] total 1488 [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 55104 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 98660 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-glib-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 90192 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 91768 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-util-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 402642 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 6360 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 614100 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 145652 2009-02-16 17:10 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb [17:12] hope it works now [17:15] UAU [17:15] STUPID me twice [17:15] some how WUBI installed the 64 bits version [17:15] ROFL [17:15] so the 1st time was the correct version [17:16] I had no idea wubi installed 64 bits [18:59] asac, you seems to like velib stories: http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/parisian-bike-rental-schemes-future-in-doubt.html [19:02] fta: yes ;) [19:02] poor bike :P [19:03]