[00:08] <dtchen> fta: the ratelimit module doesn't actually limit the sounds, only the logging currently
[00:09] <fta> dtchen, hm, when i hear a glitch, i also see those ratelimit logs
[00:26] <fta> dtchen, and i also have a lot of E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail_update() returned 0.
[00:26] <fta> E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail_update() returned 0.
[00:27] <dtchen> fta: right, i've changed the conditional in jaunty's package for that logging
[00:27] <dtchen> e.g., if you disable glitch-free, you'll get that message erroneously spammed to your syslog
[00:28] <fta> dtchen, i'm running 0.9.15~test2-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[00:29] <fta> damn openarena, i want it back, i need my shot
[00:31] <dtchen> fta: i'll take a look at ~test2 shortly - just need to verify some pending changes
[10:39] <asac> jtv: hi
[10:39] <asac> jtv: maybe those import errors come from translators trying to upload their own thing ?
[10:40] <asac> jtv: or do we know that this is from importing the upstream .xpis?
[10:40] <asac> jtv: can you find out who uploaded that? if it was arne then its something we should take a closer look at immo
[11:02] <BUGabundo> asac: did you take a look at my FON bug?
[11:09] <asac> nope
[11:10] <BUGabundo> okay
[11:10] <asac> BUGabundo: i will upload 0.7.1 to ppa in a few minutes. maybe check your bugs on that too
[11:11] <asac> at least for me 3g became more stable due to diligent use of AT commands
[11:12] <BUGabundo> nice
[11:12] <BUGabundo> will NM ever show 3G connection speed/mode?
[11:12] <BUGabundo> being on UMTS and HDSPA makes a lot of diference
[11:16] <asac> BUGabundo: it will once we have modemmanager
[11:16] <asac> BUGabundo: upstream has added that for 0.8
[11:16] <asac> but thats going to take a while until its stable
[11:16] <asac> also bluetooth and other work will be done there
[11:17] <BUGabundo> \0/
[11:18] <BUGabundo> and will allow me to set default network? and not default too wired, and then wifi?
[11:18] <BUGabundo> eeheh cause currently I can't share 3G, or Wifi if I have wired hooked
[11:18] <BUGabundo> unless I manage to get that metrics thing
[11:19] <asac> BUGabundo: i dont think that upstream is really aware of that problem. i will ask
[11:19] <asac> but he isnt wake up yet
[11:19] <asac> remind me in a few hours ;)
[11:19] <BUGabundo> I did... its on the bug!
[11:22] <BUGabundo> of course this is a corner case, but still winxp sp2 does this nicelly
[11:22] <asac> BUGabundo: thats not reminding ;)
[11:22] <asac> i read bugmail once a day
[11:22] <BUGabundo> heehheheh
[11:22] <BUGabundo> really? wow
[11:22] <BUGabundo> that will accumulate a lot of bug mail
[11:22] <BUGabundo> I read mine a few more times then that
[11:24] <asac> BUGabundo: i dont read all bugmail even
[11:24] <asac> my bugfolder contains like 30K new mails since i ushed the reset button in December
[11:24] <asac> BUGabundo: feel free to subscribe to ubuntu-mozillabugs mailing list ;)
[11:25] <BUGabundo> hheeheh
[11:26] <BUGabundo> been there, and got out
[11:26] <BUGabundo> actually it as ubuntu bugs
[11:26] <BUGabundo> lasted 1 week
[11:27] <asac> yeah ubuntu bugs is much worth even ;)
[11:28] <asac> well ... doesnt make a big difference
[11:28] <asac> either you can stay on top or you dont
[11:28] <asac> i cannot stay on top so i rely on some smart filtering tools to at least get some bug mail processed
[11:34] <BUGabundo> ahh
[11:34] <BUGabundo> so many bugs fall under the radar!
[11:35] <asac> i try to keep up with titles
[11:35] <asac> also i do 72 hour bug sessions every now and then
[11:36] <asac> and yes. i mostly rely that important issues get escalated somehow
[11:37] <BUGabundo> yeah
[12:09] <jtv> asac: can't now, I'm sprinting—but look in the import queue.
[12:09] <asac> jtv: heh
[12:09] <asac> ok
[12:09] <asac> i will ask arne to do that
[12:10] <asac> oh well ... let me check
[12:25] <asac> seems like gl and sg were uploaded as .xpi
[12:25] <asac> interestingly enough .gl also got a po upload
[12:25] <asac> but i guess thats not related
[14:48]  * gnomefreak wonders why 1.1.15 hasnt been started on for seamonkey. maybe no fixes landed yet
[15:00] <asac> gnomefreak: everything but one fix has landed
[15:00] <asac> gnomefreak: and its me who probably has to do that (too)
[15:00] <gnomefreak> get-orig says it doesnt have version on server
[15:01] <fta2> as i said last week, the get-orig of sm1 is not using m-d
[15:01] <fta2> so it's not tracking snapshots
[15:02] <fta2> otoh, it's not that difficult to make it use m-d
[15:03] <gnomefreak> fta2: get-orig error is when trying to get 1.1.15
[15:04] <gnomefreak> oh no snapshots nm
[15:15] <asac> gnomefreak: there is no tag yet
[15:15] <asac> gnomefreak: you can use latest MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH to produce a snapstho
[15:15] <asac> but there will be one commit before 1.1.15 at least
[15:15] <asac> i just have to do that backport - which was a bit complicated
[15:16] <gnomefreak> i didnt relize you could use branch tag with get-orig i thought date was pretty much it
[15:17] <gnomefreak> when i get a spare minute i will try that tag. what are you trying to backport?
[15:17] <asac> gnomefreak: thats a branch tag not a tag ;)
[15:18] <asac> gnomefreak: not sure if you can combine branch tag and data
[15:18] <asac> date
[15:18] <asac> in general that should work
[15:18] <asac> but definitly not without mozilla-devscripts
[15:18] <gnomefreak> i said branch tag not tag and i doubt you can combine date and branch tag
[15:19] <asac> yeah. might be a missing feature
[15:19] <asac> fta2: ?
[15:19] <gnomefreak> debian/rules get-orig-source MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH brings in 1.1.14
[15:20] <BUGabundo1> asac: any idea why NM won't mark as no network when the cable is removed
[15:20] <BUGabundo1> or back on, when plugged
[15:20] <BUGabundo1> on a SIS based laptop
[15:20] <BUGabundo1> with acpi off ?
[15:20] <BUGabundo1> it is as if it takes too long to detect the event
[15:21] <BUGabundo1> and even when connected to 100mb/s it falls down to 10
[15:21] <BUGabundo1> its a sis190 eth card
[15:21] <BUGabundo1> Foung a few bugs on it on LP
[15:22] <gnomefreak> hell my n-m shows no connection all the time
[15:23] <BUGabundo> asac: any idea why NM won't mark as no network when the cable is removed
[15:23] <BUGabundo> or back on, when plugged
[15:23] <BUGabundo> on a SIS based laptop
[15:23] <BUGabundo> with acpi off ?
[15:23] <BUGabundo> it is as if it takes too long to detect the event
[15:23] <BUGabundo> and even when connected to 100mb/s it falls down to 10
[15:23] <BUGabundo> it's a sis190 eth card
[15:23] <asac> BUGabundo: sorry. what is your bug?
[15:24] <BUGabundo> not sure yet
[15:24] <asac> BUGabundo: you start your system and plug in cable?
[15:24] <BUGabundo> a friends laptop
[15:24] <asac> and then network-manager doesnt connect or what?
[15:24] <asac> jaunty?
[15:24] <BUGabundo> just installed via wubi (over vista)
[15:24] <BUGabundo> acpi had to be OFF or wouldn't install
[15:24] <BUGabundo> from syslog I just see lots of Auto-negotanting messages
[15:25] <BUGabundo> do you want the sys log?
[15:25] <BUGabundo> no network on the machine! I'll have to copy
[15:26] <asac> BUGabundo: so the problem is that wired doesnt work?
[15:26] <BUGabundo> yep
[15:26] <BUGabundo> wifi also doesn't detect any protected network
[15:26] <asac> BUGabundo: paste syslog ...
[15:26] <BUGabundo> only 2 open wifi
[15:26] <BUGabundo> ok
[15:26] <asac> thats intrepid?
[15:26] <BUGabundo> yep
[15:27] <BUGabundo> just syslog??
[15:27] <BUGabundo> since I have to copy files from one pc to the other
[15:27] <BUGabundo> the less actions I take the best
[15:28] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/118862/
[15:29] <asac> BUGabundo: (eth0): carrier now ON (device state 2)
[15:29] <asac> do you get that ON if you plug in the network?
[15:29] <asac> cable
[15:29] <BUGabundo> ahh?
[15:29] <BUGabundo> ON how?
[15:30] <BUGabundo> NM almost never changes state
[15:30] <asac> BUGabundo: if you unplug cable and plug it in again
[15:30] <BUGabundo> I can see an IP from ifconfig
[15:30] <BUGabundo> and a route from route -n
[15:30] <asac> do you see soething like that in syslog?
[15:30] <BUGabundo> but ping doenst work
[15:30] <BUGabundo> let me try
[15:30] <asac> BUGabundo: oh
[15:30] <BUGabundo> removing the cable adds NO entrie (immediately) to syslog
[15:30] <asac> BUGabundo: eth0 is unmanaged
[15:31] <asac>  but well
[15:31] <asac> BUGabundo: yeah pöease check if you see something in your log on pluggin in
[15:31] <BUGabundo> humm ping now works but talkes like 5 sec just to show
[15:31] <BUGabundo> everything seems SLOW
[15:31] <BUGabundo> under if it is because acpi is off
[15:31] <asac> BUGabundo: ok. so you can connect?
[15:32] <asac> BUGabundo: find /sys/ | grep eth0 | grep carrier
[15:32] <asac> then cat /sys/....
[15:32] <asac> does that give oyu a 1 or 0
 debian/rules get-orig-source MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH brings in 1.1.14 <= the syntax is not valid, MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH is ignored
[15:33] <jcastro> hi asac
 yeah. might be a missing feature: iirc, m-d supports that (tag and branch) but it doesn't make sense for some vcs
[15:33] <BUGabundo> asac: 1
[15:33] <jcastro> asac: gwibber should be 1.0 before FF, can you put it in universe?
[15:33] <BUGabundo> and tx_carrier_errors is 0
[15:34] <asac> jcastro: yes
[15:35] <fta2> should i stop tracking it then?
[15:35] <asac> jcastro: you can also ask fta ;)
[15:35] <jcastro> asac: fta only likes PPAs. :p
[15:35] <asac> really?
[15:35] <jcastro> asac: if you do the initial 1.0 I can handle maintenance after that
[15:36] <asac> jcastro: so when will 1.0 be there?
[15:36] <BUGabundo> asac: network seem to be working now.... now idea what changed... still not sure it will work after reboot! doing upgrades now
[15:36] <asac> jcastro: can you ask him to apply the merge for the new actions system: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/3652
[15:36] <jcastro> asac: before the deadline. :D
[15:36] <jcastro> asac: yep I was going to tell him as soon as he wakes up
[15:36] <asac> jcastro: give him a deadline like tomorrow ;)
[15:36] <asac> morning
[15:36] <asac> ;)
[15:36] <jcastro> ok
[15:37] <asac> does FF start on thursday?
[15:37] <BUGabundo> the 19th
[15:37] <jcastro> he will want more time for fixes, but that's what beta is for
[15:37] <jcastro> yeah
[15:37] <asac> right
[15:37] <asac> jcastro: he can also do a 1.0rc1
[15:37] <jcastro> nod
[15:37] <asac> and then we have for final 1.0
[15:37] <asac> with _just_ bug fixes - if possible at all ;)
[15:38] <fta2> jcastro, i said no for miro 2 because each time i tried to update it in the past, i've been ignored by the maintainers, so i gave up
[15:38] <asac> so is 19th the first frozen day or the last open one?
[15:38] <asac> fta2: by whom?
[15:38] <fta2> jcastro, but of course i prefer to have stuff in the repo
[15:38] <asac> debian or ubuntu maintainers? or upstream?
[15:38] <fta2> ubuntu
[15:39] <asac> ++ for stuff in repo
[15:39] <asac> fta2: who is ubuntu maintainer?
[15:39] <jcastro> fta2: ok so do you want to put gwibber in then?
[15:39] <asac> usually ubuntu doesnt have maintainers ;)
[15:39] <asac> jcastro: say to him that he should close gwibber for initial jaunty upload today at his end of day
[15:39] <jcastro> okay
[15:39] <asac> jcastro: if we upload tomorrow ... it might need a day or so to sink in
[15:40] <jcastro> he will want more testing on this keyring stuff, but I have the day off so I can do it
[15:40] <jcastro> ok
[15:40] <asac> i assume that archive admins are grateful about universe packages, but getting new stuff up before would be good
[15:40] <jcastro> nod
[15:41] <fta2> asac, i don't remember, i filled bugs and/or i provided debdiffs and weeks/months after, someone jumped in to do the very same thing ignoring my work, it's frustrating, and a clear loss of time for me.
[15:42] <jcastro> next time let us know so we can fix the person
[15:44] <asac> fta2: well. its because nobody maintains it here. now that you can upload you can just upload ;)
[15:44] <fta2> now i'm motu so i can also push that myself, disregarding the approval of the previous uploaders but i prefer to ask
[15:45] <asac> fta2: yes. disregard the approval unless the package has a special maintainer
[15:45] <asac> thats how it works here in ubuntu
[15:45] <asac> fta2: ping ... wait a day (if you really want to be super nice) and do work then upload
[15:46] <fta2> jcastro, let me know for gwibber if they want a particular tag or revid as rc. I think it's in the gwibber/1.0 branch, not trunk in any case, so maybe the tip of it.
[15:47] <jcastro> yeah it's 1.0
[15:47] <jcastro> I would like to get in asac's notification stuff though
[15:47] <asac> fta2: cool. just give him today to land final fixes. upload tomorrow ;)
[15:47] <fta2> is the gnome keyring stuff committed?
[15:47] <jcastro> yes
[15:47] <jcastro> that's what I am testing today
[15:47] <jcastro> he landed it last night
[15:48] <fta2> strange, i didn't receive the commit log
[15:48] <fta2> oh, i'm just tracking trunk
[15:48] <asac> oh
[15:48] <asac> i probably should ask for merge to 1.0 too
[15:48] <asac> hmm
[15:48] <asac> not sure if that applies there ;)
[15:48] <fta2> it should be in both
[15:48] <asac> let me try anyway ;)
[15:50] <fta2> hm, nice paste site. look what google alert sent me: http://pastie.org/pastes/369737/
[15:51] <asac> jcastro: ok i explictly also asked for merge on 1.0 branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/3656
[15:51] <jcastro> rock and roll
[15:51] <asac> seems 1.0 and trunk are currently the same (from the revision tip)
[15:51] <jcastro> nod
[15:55] <BUGabundo> asac: after upgrades and reboot the card fails to work again :(
[15:56] <BUGabundo> but at least now WiFi works
[15:56] <BUGabundo> let me check if our EDUROAM works...
[15:57] <BUGabundo> if not ill collect logs for you
[15:58] <BUGabundo> eheheh asac: ROFL cable unplug, wifi not connect, red '?' on NM, but opening NM it show eth0 ON and WiFi connected
[15:58] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[15:59] <BUGabundo> wired gets IP and DNS, but connects at 10mb/s and fails to ping even local server!
[16:00] <BUGabundo> fta will you have a daily gwibber ppa for version 1.0?
[16:00] <fta2> BUGabundo, universe
[16:00] <BUGabundo> really? great
[16:01] <BUGabundo>   Candidate: 0.7.3~bzr237-0ubuntu1~daily1
[16:01] <fta2> the daily ppa should jump over 1.0, it's tracking trunk
[16:01] <BUGabundo> this is all I have right now
[16:01] <BUGabundo> ok
[16:01] <fta2> not yet, i'll do that later today/tonight
[16:01] <BUGabundo> thanks
[16:02] <BUGabundo> asac: if I change the NM from unmanage to manage, will it make any diference?
[16:03] <asac> BUGabundo: nope
[16:04] <BUGabundo> okay
[16:04] <BUGabundo> it just keeps getting an IP and fails
[16:04] <BUGabundo> wifi will not connect to wpa2 enterprise
[16:05] <BUGabundo> any idea on how to solve?
[16:05] <BUGabundo> manually copy PPAs debs?
[16:18] <asac> BUGabundo: nah. drivers seems to be bogus
[16:19] <asac> BUGabundo: if its really that bad only new kernel could give a relief
[16:19] <BUGabundo> yeha
[16:19] <BUGabundo> I see a line after grub warning about DUMMY acpi
[16:19] <BUGabundo> trying NM PPA to get WiFi working
[16:20] <BUGabundo> you really should put that fix on -updates
[16:20] <asac> which fix?
[16:20] <asac> 0.7 final= not possible. its abi incompatibly
[16:22] <BUGabundo> bah!
[16:22] <BUGabundo> so users get stuck without working wpa enterprise until using PPA?
[16:23] <asac> BUGabundo: not true. its just that some enterprise types dont work
[16:23] <BUGabundo> yeah
[16:24] <BUGabundo> and there's a fix availble that I just found out won't get into the repos
[16:32] <asac> because its not available ... at least fo rtha tsnapshot
[16:33] <asac> if someone backports the mega-patches i am happy to review and drive the SRU forward
[16:33] <fta2> asac, just tested my 3G key (with the SIM that doesn't work) in an XP box, no problem, so it's ubuntu :(
[16:37] <BUGabundo> thanks for explaing asac
[16:37] <BUGabundo> now how to make this eth card work??
[16:41] <asac> fta2: nobody claimed differnt
[16:41] <asac> fta2: you ned to get a serial log from XP to get a clue what is different i guess
[16:41] <fta2> i could have burnt it
[16:41] <asac> fta2: i would still suggest to use 0.7.1 from the ppa ... which should be built already
[16:41] <fta2> donno
[16:42] <asac> fta2: yeah. right checking makes sense
[16:42] <fta2> my last try was with your nm ppa
[16:42] <asac> fta2: yes. but today i uploaded 3 month more development ;)
[16:42] <fta2> oh, ok
[16:43] <asac> fta2: sigh ... i forgot the applet
[16:43] <asac> bastards
[16:43] <asac> so wait till in a few horus i guess ;)
[16:45] <BUGabundo> asac: what debs do I need to copy from PPA to make it work on ibex?
[16:46] <asac> BUGabundo: add ppa to sources.list ...and upgrade
[16:46] <asac> dist-upgrade
[16:46] <asac> BUGabundo: you need all fro network-manager and network-manager-applet
[16:46] <asac> and if you had a vpn plugin also that one
[16:47] <asac> i hope thats it ;)
[16:47] <BUGabundo> asac: NO network
[16:47] <BUGabundo> makes it kinda hard to upgrade
[16:48] <BUGabundo> need vpn for open wifi, wpa enterprize won't work with archive version, and wired won't get online
[16:48]  * BUGabundo SYS SUCKS
[16:49] <asac> BUGabundo: i said what you need to get
[16:49] <asac> ;)
[16:49] <BUGabundo> package names!
[16:49] <BUGabundo> don't want to misse one
[16:49] <BUGabundo> there are 40 debs on the PPA
[16:49] <asac> BUGabundo: _all_ packages that belong to the source packages i named
[16:50] <asac> BUGabundo: only look for intrepid
[16:50] <BUGabundo> yep
[16:50] <BUGabundo> 0.7 or 0.7.1 ?
[16:50] <BUGabundo> since the applet seems to be missing
[16:51] <asac> BUGabundo: intrepid doesnt have 0.7.1 does it?
[16:51] <BUGabundo> not sure
[16:51] <BUGabundo> I just saw some .1 and remembered what you said a sec ago
[16:51] <asac> BUGabundo: you can filter by series
[16:51] <asac> look for _intrepid_
[16:51] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=intrepid
[16:51] <fta2> asac, plz make sure your commit in both branches so trunk is not late
[16:52] <BUGabundo> hope I don't miss any libs https://edge.launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/471999/+listing-archive-extra
[16:52] <asac> fta2: yeah
[16:52] <asac> (gwibber i guess)
[16:52] <asac> BUGabundo: network-manager-applet - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1
[16:52] <asac>  network-manager - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1
[16:52] <asac>  gnome-main-menu - 0.9.11+dfsg-0ubuntu2~nm1~intrepid2
[16:52] <BUGabundo> yeah
[16:52] <asac> and if you have a plugin grab that too
[16:52] <asac> take all packages
[16:52] <asac> from those sources
[16:53] <asac> of course for _arch and _all
[16:53] <BUGabundo> do you have a tar with them all ?
[16:53] <BUGabundo> ehehehe
[16:53] <asac> nope
[16:53] <BUGabundo> humm
[16:53] <BUGabundo> can I use apt to download them ?
[16:53] <BUGabundo> just DOWNLOAD?
[16:53] <asac> not sure
[16:53] <BUGabundo> let me add the interpid repo to my sources
[16:53] <BUGabundo> it should be easier
[16:53] <asac> do it manually
[16:53] <asac> its painful, but thats how it is if the network is down ;)
[16:54] <asac> also if you can do wifi you can open up an adhoc net on your working system
[16:54] <asac> and go thorugh that
[16:55] <BUGabundo> I'm already using my wifi
[16:55] <BUGabundo> I'll just let synaptic download the deps
[16:57] <asac> so that works ;)
[16:59] <BUGabundo> I can't find  network-manager-applet
[17:00] <asac>  network-manager-applet - 0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1
[17:00] <asac> is there ;)
[17:00] <asac> you probably grabed 0.7.1 now
[17:00] <BUGabundo> nop
[17:00] <BUGabundo> using synaptic and ibex ppa repo
[17:01] <BUGabundo> I have network-manager-gnome
[17:01] <BUGabundo> but not applet
[17:01] <asac> BUGabundo: thats the name man ;)
[17:01] <asac> source package != binary package
[17:02] <BUGabundo> ok
[17:02] <asac> so you are all set ;)
[17:02] <BUGabundo> thanks
[17:02] <BUGabundo> total 1200
[17:02] <BUGabundo> -rw-r----- 1 root root      0 2009-02-09 17:35 lock
[17:02] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 431922 2008-12-26 22:00 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:02] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 626502 2008-12-26 22:20 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:02] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150598 2008-12-27 06:20 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:03] <BUGabundo> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   4096 2009-02-16 17:02 partial
[17:03] <asac> BUGabundo: all the libs
[17:03] <BUGabundo> is this it? no libs
[17:03] <asac> libnm-*
[17:03] <BUGabundo> humm shouldn't syn have select those too?
[17:03] <asac> BUGabundo: I said all packages for the sources
[17:03] <asac> i have no clue ;)
[17:03] <asac> probably not
[17:03] <asac> if you didnt install them for real
[17:04] <asac> i dont know the "download" feature of synaptic
[17:04] <BUGabundo> or are they forward compatible?
[17:04] <BUGabundo> I'm simulating a downgrade
[17:05] <BUGabundo> total 2000
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  62714 2008-12-26 22:00 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  62772 2009-02-16 14:04 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  97938 2008-12-26 22:00 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 100128 2009-02-16 14:04 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r----- 1 root root      0 2009-02-09 17:35 lock
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 431922 2008-12-26 22:00 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 303952 2009-02-16 14:04 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 626502 2008-12-26 22:20 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150598 2008-12-27 06:20 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 152400 2009-02-16 14:04 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[17:05] <BUGabundo> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   4096 2009-02-16 17:05 partial
[17:07] <BUGabundo> STUPID ME
[17:07] <BUGabundo> downloaded the 64bits not 32
[17:07] <BUGabundo> DUH
[17:07] <asac> heh
[17:12] <BUGabundo> ls -l /media/FLASHPEN/nm
[17:12] <BUGabundo> total 1488
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  55104 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-glib0_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  98660 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-glib-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  90192 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-util1_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root  91768 2009-02-16 17:09 libnm-util-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 402642 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root   6360 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager-dev_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 614100 2009-02-16 17:09 network-manager-gnome_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> -rwx------ 1 bugabundo root 145652 2009-02-16 17:10 network-manager-pptp_0.7-0ubuntu1~nm1~intrepid1_i386.deb
[17:12] <BUGabundo> hope it works now
[17:15] <BUGabundo> UAU
[17:15] <BUGabundo> STUPID me twice
[17:15] <BUGabundo> some how WUBI installed the 64 bits version
[17:15] <BUGabundo> ROFL
[17:15] <BUGabundo> so the 1st time was the correct version
[17:16] <BUGabundo> I had no idea wubi installed 64 bits
[18:59] <fta> asac, you seems to like velib stories: http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/parisian-bike-rental-schemes-future-in-doubt.html
[19:02] <asac> fta: yes ;)
[19:02] <fta> poor bike :P
[19:03] <asac> fta: :(
[19:04] <asac> fta: hope they find a solution
[19:04] <asac> would be a shame
[19:05] <saivann> asac : ping
[19:06] <fta> there's a 10y contract with the city so they'll have to do with it, or pay
[19:20] <fta> asac, jcastro: i don't see any recent commit in the 2 gwibber branches. still #237 for both from 6 days ago. did i miss something?
[19:21] <jcastro> fta: he's pushing today
[19:22] <jcastro> the keyring stuff
[19:22] <jcastro> I thought he pushed it yesterday, my bad
[19:22] <fta> ok, thanks. would be nice if they could add a tag
[19:23] <fta> and bump the trunk version higher than 1.0
[19:46] <saivann> asac : ping
[19:48] <asac> saivann: hi. sorry do you have the link again?
[19:49] <asac> (i lost it because it was in /tmp/ and my thing didnt wake up on resume ;))
[19:49] <saivann> asac : You're speaking about this ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sunbird-locales/+bug/324635
[19:49] <BUGabundo1> asac: ehehe time to run ~pete script
[19:49] <BUGabundo1> and debug that resume
[19:50] <asac> saivann: not sure ;) .. the tarball with everything i ment
[19:50] <asac> let me look
[19:51] <saivann> asac : At the same time, I did some work on thunderbird 3b2 to implement rosetta and everything looks great, but I don't know how I can do to know if I done things well. My work is here : http://upload.leservicetechnique.com/bugs/thunderbird-3.0_3.0~b2~hg20090208r1892+nobinonly-0ubuntu1.tar.gz
[19:52] <asac> saivann: do you have a debdiff or something?
[19:52] <saivann> asac : wait a few seconds
[19:52] <asac> saivann: or even a branch you could push?
[19:55] <saivann> asac : I can push a bzr branch if a few minutes
[19:56] <asac> saivann: for tbird that would be helpful. yes
[19:58] <asac> saivann: you didnt document the droppage of the da.diff ;)
[19:58] <asac> but thats ok
[20:02] <saivann> Oh, right.
[20:03] <fta> asac, is sunbird daily-ready? a few people asked me about it
[20:04] <fta> well, obviously, tb3 needs some love 1st :P
[20:11] <saivann> asac : Just pushed my work to https://code.launchpad.net/~saivann/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.0-rosetta
[20:12] <saivann> asac : I already tested that this branch builds and it builds correctly, I just don't know if translation process is correctly done. MOZ_TRANSLATION_AUTO_XPI_OUTDIR does not exist after build in debian folder.
[20:15] <asac> saivann: yeah. we should just check i think ;)
[20:15] <asac> well ... not that easy though. at least if we cannot put in new tbird
[20:15] <asac> to jaunty
[20:15] <asac> but for karmic this will automatically happen
[20:16] <saivann> asac : I didn't know that next release is named karmic :)
[20:17] <saivann> asac : Anyway, that part of the work is done, we'll have the opportunity to test it later
[20:17] <asac> saivann: both uploaded
[20:17] <saivann> asac : Thank you
[20:17] <asac> saivann: me neither ... could be anything :)
[20:17] <saivann> asac : hehe :)
[20:18] <saivann> asac : I'll let my branch as it is, don't hesitate to ping me if you need me to do something on it later.
[20:19] <asac> saivann: i think ask for merge so it doesnt get lost
[20:19] <asac> should be enough
[20:19] <asac> damn ...
[20:19] <asac> now i have ot really think what i have to do before FF
[20:19] <asac> time is running as low as always :)
[20:20] <asac> oh ... maybe looking through firefox-extensions
[20:20] <asac> i guess gnomefreak thinks he has a few ready
[20:21] <asac> fta: are you on gwibber ;)? i think they merged my thing already ... so maybe they are ready for go
[20:25] <asac> saivann: By  zxz <zxz@zxz-desktop>   21 minutes ago
[20:25] <asac> saivann: sure you want that kind of credit i nbzr log?
[20:25] <asac> saivann: consider to recommit
[20:26] <asac> thats what i see on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~saivann/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.0-rosetta/+merge/3664
[20:26] <saivann> asac : Yes I actually don't know how to change this. That is probably easy but, let me search a bit
[20:28] <asac> saivann: in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf i have
[20:28] <asac> [DEFAULT]
[20:28] <asac> email = Alexander Sack <asac@jwsdot.com>
[20:28] <asac> build-dir = /tmp/build
[20:28] <asac> launchpad_username = asac
[20:28] <asac> scratc build-dir
[20:28] <asac> that is senseless
[20:28] <asac> there
[20:29] <asac> but email and launchpad_...
[20:29] <asac> makes sensi ;)
[20:30] <saivann> asac : Thanks, I'll keep a copy of this file so I don't forget it. I'm going to re-push in a few minutes
[20:31] <asac> sure
[20:33] <asac> saivann: is the  id in install.rdf.in right?
[20:33] <asac> i think it should be {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}
[20:33] <asac> at least thats what in /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/application.ini
[20:34] <saivann> asac : You might be right, I used the ID from en-US locale. I'll adapt this in my push
[20:35] <asac> saivann: which en-US locale?
[20:35] <asac> the firefox one?
[20:35] <saivann> asac : No I took the thunderbird one, did I make a mistake here too O_o
[20:39] <asac> saivann: sigh. as alaway i cannot find the list on mdc
[20:39] <asac> thtas just annyoing.
[20:39] <asac> they named the page in such a way that i never find it
[20:39] <asac> i would look for mozilla apps uuid
[20:41] <fta> asac, i may be blind but i still see #237: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber
[20:41] <asac> saivann: so they also use <em:id>{3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}</em:id>
[20:41] <saivann> asac : Mmh, so you're not sure that 3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6 is the right one?
[20:41] <asac> in othe3 rlocales
[20:41] <asac> saivann: i am 99.99% sure
[20:42] <asac> actually 100
[20:42] <saivann> asac : That seems acceptable :)
[20:42] <asac> fta: hmm ... it has approval. can you land it?
[20:43] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/gwibber/trunk.notify.action-capabilities/+merge/3656
[20:43] <asac> approved for 1.0 branch landing
[20:44] <fta> i'm not in gwibber-committers, am i?
[20:45] <asac> fta: thoguth you are ;)
[20:45] <fta> i'm in gwibber-team, not gwibber-committers
[20:45] <asac> ah ok.
[20:46] <fta> just played world of goo, excellent :)
[20:46] <asac> jcastro: dont forget to land the merge (approved for 1.0) before you do the 1.0rc release
[20:46] <asac> ;)
[20:46] <asac> fta: whats that?
[20:46] <fta> a game
[20:47] <asac> i could have guessed that
[20:47] <fta> http://www.worldofgoo.com/
[20:47] <fta> there's a demo deb for ubuntu
[20:48] <saivann> fta : This game is awesome, I bought it and participated in the beta for linux :)
[20:48] <fta> reminded me of lemmings
[20:49] <fta> plus something of crazy machines
[20:49] <asac> hmm ... no time until after FF i guess
[20:49] <fta> :)
[20:50] <fta> you can complete the demo in half an hour
[20:50] <fta> maybe less
[20:50] <saivann> asac : the branch is pushed and updated, thanks
[20:51] <fta> hmn, i see a black square as avatar for maco in gwibber..
[20:55] <fta> oh, nm, on identica too
[20:55] <fta> "Avatar blacked out in opposition to New Zealand's Guilty-Upon-Accusation internet copyright infringement laws"
[20:57]  * asac tests some modem plug-in/plug-out thing
[20:59] <fta> asac, btw, my usb key is working now. could it be that xp fixed it? ;)
[21:48] <asac> fta: yes. could have been a lock
[21:49] <asac> fta: often providers lock the sim until you first use their proprietary software to unlock it
[21:49] <asac> you can ask the store to do that
[21:49] <asac> its really a messy situation ... you should have snooped on the serial device and then reserve engineer it
[21:49] <fta> nothing we can do, i don't want to have to install windows just for that
[21:49] <fta> ?
[21:49] <asac> reverse
[21:50] <asac> fta: no. its usually proprietary code ... only reverse engineering would help
[21:50] <fta> hm, next time it happens then
[21:50] <asac> yeah. though i wouldnt even know how to do
[21:50] <asac> fta: but i doubt it will happen again ;)
[21:50] <asac> until you get a new sim
[21:52] <fta> that key/sim worked several times on ubuntu before i even plugged it in once in an xp
[21:52] <fta> i mean, i 1st used it /w ubuntu, not windows
[22:01] <fta> #238 just appeared in trunk
[22:02] <fta> would be nice if the bazaar applet was able to monitor remote branches
[22:02] <fta> ... and chroots
[22:03] <fta> #238 in 1.0 too
[22:05]  * asac found the "sort by number of duplicates" feature of bugs.l.n
[22:16] <fta> so now, both branches are gwibber 0.8 with the GNOME keyring stuff. why is everyone asking for 1.0 then??
[22:18] <fta> http://www.workswithu.com/2009/02/16/dell-ubuntu-netbooks-on-sale-or-are-they/
[22:28] <asac> fta: are you on 0.7.1 yet?
[22:29] <asac> fta: i plan to upload that tomorrow. would be great to get some brave feedback ;)
[22:29] <asac> pretty harmless imo as its just a stable maintenance branch
[22:56] <fta> eh?
[22:56] <fta> oh #239, your notification patch is in
[22:56] <fta> asac, ^^
[22:57] <fta> still no difference between the 2 branches
[22:57] <fta> so both are now 0.8
[22:57] <fta> at 4am, the bot will catch up
[23:01] <asac> fta: cool
[23:02] <asac> fta: can you check package for proper copyright file and then upload that ?
[23:02] <asac> jcastro: ?
[23:02] <asac> is gwibber ready ;)
[23:02] <fta> i'm currently looking if gnomekeyring needs a new dep or not
[23:02] <fta> it's in python-gnome2-desktop
[23:03] <fta> but the code is optional, should i be a dep, or a rec ?
[23:03] <jcastro> asac: he's pushed it, let me ask
[23:03] <fta> -i+it
[23:04] <jcastro> asac: yep, it's all ready
[23:05] <asac> jcastro: so current tip is 0.7rc1?
[23:05] <fta> jcastro, it's 0.8 now, is it supposed to stay like that? or 1.0rc1?
[23:05] <asac> or how is it called ;)
[23:05] <jcastro> let me find out
[23:06] <jcastro> he's calling this one .8
[23:06] <fta> ok
[23:06] <asac> jcastro: so does he plan to release 1.0 for jaunty?
[23:06] <jcastro> asac: yeah
[23:06] <fta> i guess adding python-gnome2-desktop as a dep will make kde people angry, right?
[23:06] <asac> jcastro: its easier to sneak 1rc1 - 1 upgrade in than a 0.8 to 1.0
[23:06] <jcastro> fta: it needs the keyring for secure passwords
[23:07] <asac> at lesat the lattter probably needs a document about what changes were made
[23:07] <asac> while the other will probably just be assumed ok ;)
[23:07] <jcastro> asac: does the number actually matter if the changelog is all fixes?
[23:07] <asac> jcastro: a) does gwibber ship a changelog?
[23:07] <jcastro> well, the bzr changelog
[23:08] <asac> yes, but then you have to proof the upload
[23:08] <fta> asac, no, it doesn't
[23:08] <asac> while 1.0rc1 to 1.0 will just slip in and nobody notice ;)
[23:08] <jcastro> you really think so?
[23:08] <jcastro> that sounds kind of dumb, but whatever you think is best
[23:08] <jcastro> let me tell him
[23:09] <asac> jcastro: i am not an oracle. its just that the freeze producer means that "micro" version bumps are usually ok
[23:09] <fta> trunk is now ahead...
[23:09] <fta> jcastro, do you want to remain the only maintainer or should i change that to motu?
[23:10] <asac> jcastro: in the end all that matters is what changes ... only that the process can happen to be more lightweight with some luck
[23:10] <jcastro> fta: change it to motu, if I need to do something I'll just debdiff and put it in the sponsorship queue
[23:10] <fta> ok
[23:11] <jcastro> asac: let's just leave it at .8 for now
[23:11] <jcastro> they're in bugfix only mode anyway
[23:12] <asac> whatever ;) ... at least i tried. if it now gets stuck at 0.8 for final its the gwibbers-guy fault ;)
[23:12] <asac> not saying that this will happen ;)
[23:12] <jcastro> well, only fixes are going into that branch
[23:12] <jcastro> I'll just argue with whoever if it comes up. :D
[23:13] <asac> jcastro: good idea. you will do whatever paperwork comes up after FF  ;)
[23:13] <jcastro> <3
[23:13] <asac> hehe
[23:14] <asac> fta: have you tried to disconnect/reconnect multiple times
[23:14] <asac> on 3g?
[23:14] <fta> yes
[23:15] <asac> do you sometimes end up in a state where NM doesnt even spin, but just fails?
[23:15] <fta> but i usually eject the key
[23:15] <asac> and restarting NM works?
[23:15] <asac> fta: can you replug key infinite amount of times? or do you get in a bad state at some point?
[23:15] <fta> and it creates a new instance of the connection
[23:15] <asac> creates new instance, yes.
[23:16] <fta> if you mean without unplugging the key, i need to test that
[23:16] <asac> fta: have you checkd lshal | grep capabili.*modem ?
[23:16] <asac> if they double its a udev/hal bug
[23:16] <asac> fta: yes either that ... or repluggin like 10 times ;)
[23:16] <asac> both are interesting things ;)
[23:18] <fta> no modem listed in lshal (the key is out)
[23:18] <fta> neither in lsusb
[23:21] <fta> jcastro, just to be sure, gwibber 0.8 is just a random revision (=239)? no tag? no official tarball? no nothing?
[23:22] <fta> debian would hate that for sure
[23:22] <jcastro> heh, let me ask him to do a tarball?
[23:22] <jcastro> just do 239 for now
[23:23] <jcastro> then from now on we'll ask them to roll a tarball?
[23:24] <asac> jcastro: dont need to. just tag is ok
[23:24] <fta> ok, but if they can roll one now, it's even better.
[23:24] <fta> or a tag, yes
[23:24] <asac> jcastro: we can use --export-upstream from bzr-builddeb
[23:25] <asac> jcastro: as long as we are a small group even a RELEASE commit would be good
[23:25] <fta> can't lp alrady export tarballs?
[23:25] <fta> +e
[23:25] <asac> e.g. just a version bump commit
[23:26] <asac> fta: bzr export can do that.
[23:26] <asac> but you probabl yknow that
[23:26] <asac> or was it bzr archive
[23:26]  * asac confused about git, bzr hg
[23:26] <jcastro> asac: ok I'll ask him to do that
[23:27] <fta> jcastro, while you're at it, please ask them to bump trunk to 0.8.1 or something, it has to be higher then the release branch, to keep the dailies ahead
[23:28] <fta> than
[23:28] <asac> ++
[23:29] <fta> ?
[23:29] <asac> ++ == agree
[23:30] <fta> i say ++ when i leave ;)
[23:30] <asac> +1
[23:30] <asac> ==
[23:30] <asac> ++
[23:30] <asac> ==
[23:30] <asac> ack
[23:30] <fta> do we have a need packaging bug for gwibber?
[23:30] <asac> jcastro: ^^ ?
[23:31] <asac> paperboy :-P
[23:31] <asac> hehe
[23:31] <fta> lol
[23:31] <fta> sorry
[23:31] <asac> not sure if we need a packaging branch though
[23:31] <asac> err bug
[23:33] <asac> les see if someone has complains about the new ppp yet ;)
[23:33] <asac> last bug filed: bug 309135
[23:33] <asac> but thats from december
[23:36]  * asac triages ppp bugs
[23:37] <asac> closed 5% ;) ... now down to 18
[23:37] <asac> err even 16
[23:40] <fta> pff, >1500 needs-packaging bugs
[23:40] <asac> they should really package them in debian
[23:40] <asac> otherwise debian packages it and then stuff gets duplicated
[23:41] <asac> btw, jcastro so upload gwibber to debian too?
[23:41] <fta> 166 of those are linked to debian
[23:41] <asac> heh
[23:41] <asac> yeah. probably the right way to triage them ;)
[23:42] <asac> just forward
[23:42] <asac> upstream
[23:42] <asac> lol
[23:42] <asac> but still better than just doing nothing i would guess
[23:42] <asac> but 1500 is really high
[23:42] <asac> must be lot of crap ;)
[23:43] <fta> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging
[23:43] <fta> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging
[23:45] <fta> adding python-gnome2-desktop to Depends....
[23:46] <asac> bug 102384
[23:46] <asac> -> invalid license as it seems
[23:46] <asac> fta: does gwibber need that?
[23:46] <fta> need what?
[23:46] <asac> python-gnome2-desktop
[23:47] <fta> for the gnome keyring, yes
[23:47] <fta> to do "import gnomekeyring"
[23:47] <asac> fta: isnt there a package just for python keyring?
[23:47] <asac> err python gnome keyring ;)
[23:47] <asac> (me has no clue about python packaging)
[23:47] <fta> /usr/lib/python-support/python-gnome2-desktop/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gnomekeyring.so
[23:47] <fta> /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gnomekeyring.so
[23:48] <asac> seems not ;)
[23:48] <asac> yeah
[23:51] <fta> 2 lintian warnings left: binary-without-manpage and embedded-javascript-library
[23:51] <asac> embedded javascript lib?
[23:51] <asac> whats that?
[23:51] <fta> jquery.js
[23:52] <fta> copies
[23:52] <fta> 4
[23:52] <asac> how is that used?
[23:52] <fta> W: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/default/jquery.js
[23:52] <fta> W: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/defaultsmall/jquery.js
[23:52] <fta> W: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/funkatron/jquery.js
[23:52] <fta> W: gwibber: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/gwibber/ui/themes/shine/jquery.js
[23:52] <fta> in the theme apparently
[23:52] <asac> hmm ... i think it has code to use some html renderer
[23:52] <asac> but its ddisabled for now
[23:52] <asac> but its ddisabled forso opk
[23:53] <asac> huh
[23:53] <asac> huhwhat did i write ;)
[23:53] <fta> lol
[23:53] <asac> thats a bug
[23:53] <fta> what?
[23:53] <asac> i definitly didnt repeat the line
[23:53] <asac> 00:52 < asac> hmm ... i think it has code to use some html renderer
[23:53] <asac> 00:52 < asac> but its ddisabled for now
[23:53] <asac> 00:52 < asac> but its ddisabled forso opk
[23:53] <asac> 00:53 < asac> huh
[23:53] <asac> 00:53 < asac> huhwhat did i write ;)
[23:53] <asac> do yo usee the same?
[23:53] <fta> yes
[23:53] <asac> see
[23:53] <asac> i just typed fast ;)
[23:53] <asac> huh <enter> what did i write
[23:54] <asac> and huh was duplicated to second line
[23:54] <asac> same for the first dupe ;)
[23:54] <fta> d'oh
[23:54] <asac> second line was actually just "so ok"
[23:54] <asac> well "so opk" as it seems
[23:55] <asac> oh no ... even screen is falling apart now
[23:55] <asac> or irssi
[23:55] <asac> not sure what shocks me more
[23:56]  * asac pulls new git linux-3.6 snapshot
[23:57] <fta> ok, gwibber_0.8~bzr239-0ubuntu1 ready, i can still feed a real tarball
[23:57] <asac> hmm ... no commits since rc5
[23:57] <asac> lame ;)
[23:57] <asac> thought on kernel tree there would be bunch of commits every day ;)
[23:57] <asac> maybe i shouldnt track linux
[23:57] <asac> linus
[23:59] <fta> should i push 0.8 to universe right now? or should I bump to gwibber ppa with 0.8~bzr239 and wait for a tarball or a tag?
[23:59] <fta> -bump+push