[00:21] New bug: #329900 in php5 (main) "Please remove language bias from php5-cli package description" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/329900 [00:21] ok when I launch the html file that is contained within the var/www file my web page comes up [00:21] but when I use the browser and access the site it get a different "text" view [00:29] when I load this file under the WWW should it be named the domain name? [00:30] where a packages usually saves files it needs for saving data and processing on ubuntu? [00:36] Davedan: what do you mean by `saving data and processing'? [00:37] twb: I want to create a simple package [00:37] the package will need to create a file and after several minutes to delete it [00:37] I don't want to create files in a place that is not suitable for it [00:37] Davedan: I recommend you read the Debian Policy manual, then, and the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 2.3. [00:37] twb: thanks I will [00:38] Davedan: you can also ask #debian-mentors on OFTC; I don't know if there is an Ubuntu equivalent (possibly #ubuntu-devel?) [00:38] ok [00:38] I would guess that you want to use ${TMPDIR:-/tmp} [00:40] ok what happens after you edit a html file, does it back itself up? [00:40] twb: For packaging help here the best channel is #ubuntu-motu. [00:40] Davedan: ^^ [00:40] or how do you make sure the most recent edit is being useed [00:42] ScottK: thanks [00:42] VK7HSE, hello :) [00:43] Davedan, twb probably #ubuntu-motu for mentorish things [00:43] ah, ScottK beat me [00:43] Kamping_Kaiser: Hi !!! :-/ [00:43] * Kamping_Kaiser should finish reading up first :| [00:44] VK7HSE, you traveling? vics a funny place to find vk7s :) [00:45] Kamping_Kaiser: Huh? & no not on the move! [00:45] VK7HSE, ah right. your hostmask says your in vic. perhaps its sloppy dns [00:46] Kamping_Kaiser: Ahh that's bloody Telstra for ya! tassie head office is down town Melbourne! [00:48] Kamping_Kaiser: thanks [00:48] Kamping_Kaiser: Hey remember, "ALL" roads lead to Melbourne :P [00:48] VK7HSE, oh, nice touch. [00:48] VK7HSE, haha. enjoy your power outages ;p [00:49] * Kamping_Kaiser mutters about crazy victorians [00:52] can I pass a value between two bash scripts? [00:53] | [01:28] ok once i make edits on my web page how do i get it uploaded to my site? [01:41] im starting to think this has to be edited before placing into the var/www file [01:49] steelcityjim, just put your web page in /var/www [01:59] how so tsrk? [02:00] im noticing when the html file is in the var/www and its edited it creates multiple copies and never takes the edit correctly [02:00] however if I edit in another directory it appears to work correctly [02:09] Check your permissions [02:11] how? [02:15] I have one machine serving my website to the internet with apache, the router points all ":80" traffic to this machine. It is machine "A". I want to be able to serve a subdomain (and other services) from another machine, "B", on my network. How do I map the location on B to A using virtual hosts? [02:18] I would like to be able to have service "X.php" running on machine "B" appear as a virtual host on "A" at location "http://serverA.com/X" [02:34] how do I call out differnt jpeg photos in a html text editor, is it keyed by name? === [Solars] is now known as [Solaris] === [Solaris] is now known as [Drake] [02:41] <[Drake]> ivok around? [02:50] <[Drake]> on a software raid setup, is it adviseable to have swap partition on all or just 1 drive? (i have 4 drives) [03:04] <[Drake]> i can't remember how to do this correctly [03:04] <[Drake]> I know i need /boot on each drive as raid 1 or 0 and ahve it set bootable [03:04] <[Drake]> but not sure how big to make the /boot partition or how big to make the /swap [05:17] I have a server running ubuntu and I can ssh in just fine...but can't use sshfs at all. I have fuse loaded and users added to the necessary groups. I get Connection Reset by Peer every time. What needs to get changed so it works? [05:51] Is there a PDF version of the Ubuntu Server Guide, or a way to export it to PDF? [05:57] lukehasnoname, i'm pretty sure there iss [05:59] hello - I was wondering if you could recommend me an FTP server where I could add users in a separate file and not in /etc/passwd [06:00] Ive been struggling with wftp and proftp [06:06] lukehasnoname, well, maybe not. it used to be. must be the problems associated w/xml + pdf... [06:06] lukehasnoname, (maybe they should have used LaTeX, heh heh) [06:19] lukehasnoname: try http://dl2.foss-id.web.id/dokumen/ubuntu/serverguide.pdf However it's for 6.06LTS [06:20] VK7HSE, yeah, i was trying not to point him to something that was 2+ years old ;) [06:20] rdw200169: True !!! [06:21] VK7HSE, i was working with the documentation team for a little while, but i got too lost in the XML; that and i was irritated i couldn't figure out how to get FOP working so i could get a PDF version. [06:22] rdw200169: He it's out of my league !!! :-D [06:22] VK7HSE, yeah, me too. that's why i still use LaTeX... [06:23] rdw200169: Well I've only been messing with Linux for about 12 months now! and so far so good! but I still have soooo much more to learn... [06:24] VK7HSE, well, LaTeX and XML are not really related to Linux, even though that is where they seem to have the strongest presence [06:25] rdw200169: Hmm.. well I'm messing with a backup program called Cedar Backup2 and you guessed it all the config is in XML !!! Gahh... [06:26] VK7HSE, yeah, gconf is the same way [06:26] rdw200169: But one step at a time! I may make it! :-/ [06:27] VK7HSE, there are a lot of fights in the linux world over XML... it's great for programmers, but awful for users [06:27] rdw200169: I'm hearing ya !! [06:27] VK7HSE, many people swear that XML is easy to read; just as many people swear its impossible to understand [06:28] rdw200169: my wife can be like that sometimes !!! === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [09:05] moin [09:07] mogguh [09:17] Mogguh - more like aaavnd. [09:17] :) [10:27] help me [10:27] I dont have C Compiler [10:27] I cant ./configure [10:27] what I have to do !:S [10:27] install one [10:27] apt-get install build-essential [10:28] E: Couldn't find package build-essential [10:28] :S [10:28] then you have bigger problems [10:28] try running apt-get update first [10:30] .... [10:31] ajmitch, hey mate [10:44] Fruzen: you where told what do to in #ubuntu in detail [11:16] ikonia [11:17] Fruzen: yes [11:17] but I need to download the C Compiler [11:17] Fruzen: you don't [11:17] Fruzen: what part is not being made clear to you [11:17] is that If i downloaded a new software [11:17] no [11:17] I will not use the ./configure [11:17] no [11:18] As you have been informed in all the other channels you've asked [11:18] 1.) open your package manager (synapic/aptitude/apt-get) what ever one you like [11:18] 2.) search for the phrase "ircd" [11:18] 3.) this gives you a list of irc daemons that can be used [11:18] 4.) using the package manager selet one and install it [11:19] 5.) set it up and use it [11:19] 6. enjoy [11:19] Fruzen: is there something in that list / process I'm not making clear to you ? [11:19] how to open the package manager [11:19] I use SSH [11:20] Fruzen: so use the "apt-get" and "apt-cache" commands to install and search [11:20] eg: apt-cache search ircd [11:20] Fruzen: please show me the output of "uname -a" from your ssh terminal session [11:21] Fruzen: do you know how to do that ? [11:21] you seem to stop talking and join another channel every time you get asked for that information [11:23] Fruzen: hello ? [11:23] ok so same behaviour again as other channels [11:24] ikonia: you are dirty hacker that will steal his private data [11:24] ivoks: obviously [11:27] Fruzen: ubuntu 6.10 is not supported and End of life, as you are using a modified version of ubuntu that is provided by your hosting provider in a VPS - I suggest you contact them for support [11:49] hm === andylockran is now known as andyfailran === andyfailran is now known as andylockran [14:13] ikonia: but Edgy was the best there ever was [14:20] any able to explain to me why one would add "tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,ro 0 0" to /etc/fstab? [14:22] dmacnutt: To create /dev/shm? [14:22] /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh should do that. [14:23] dmacnutt: No. For several reasons. [14:23] I'm finding it on a machine i'm looking to duplicate , and I don't see it in the defaults on my new 8.04 server. And I don't want to add it just "Well golly gee it's in the old one why not the new?" [14:23] I want to know it's purpose [14:24] dmacnutt: a) /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh does it for you already. [14:24] dmacnutt: b) "defaults,ro" is very odd: [14:24] For one, it's the same as "ro". [14:24] And b) what's the point of mounting a tmpfs read-only? that's rather useless. [14:25] dmacnutt: I like your thinking, though. Most people would just have copied it. [14:26] dmacnutt: I can't think of a single reason why you'd put that there. Is it a very old system? [14:26] it's likely a previous lts upgrade [14:27] but I inherited it so my information is sketchy [14:27] dmacnutt: I would leave it out and not worry about it anymore. [14:27] leaning that way as well [14:28] see who complains :) [14:29] It might be the way it was done before mountdevsbfs did it. I'm not sure when that started. [14:37] soren: thank you, for your time [14:37] dmacnutt: Sure thing. [15:06] New bug: #330099 in php5 (main) "package libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.6-2ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330099 [15:24] is anyone aware of any network asset tracking database / diagramming FOSS? [15:30] we are working on some [15:30] as a mediawiki extension [15:30] but it's not anywhere near production ready [15:32] mark, whats it called? [15:32] "DataCenter" [15:32] it's asset tracking and datacenter management, not diagramming [15:33] it's a bit like racktables, if you know it [15:34] yea im familiar with racktables [15:34] does DataCenter support vlan tracking? [15:34] not yet [15:34] what would you like to see? [15:36] a vlan membership table would be sufficient however it would be cool to have image maps with ports that light up when vlans that they are a member of are light up [15:36] might be nice at a later stage [15:37] also vlan trunking would be important [15:38] but the network side of things is not the main focus for us now... except for physical connections like (fiber patches) / cables [15:39] so its primarily an asset tracker then [15:39] primarily for physical data center management [15:40] what device goes where etc [15:40] which ties in with asset tracking, yes [15:43] thanks for the info mark ill have to keep my eye on it [15:56] New bug: #290078 in tomcat-native (universe) "bump tomcat-native to 1.1.15" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290078 [15:57] is there a video conferencing server for linux? === smarter_ is now known as smarter [16:05] yay for HP [16:27] <_16aR_> Hello [16:27] <_16aR_> is it normal that I can't remove/purge mysql-server-5.0 ? [16:27] <_16aR_> I got the debconf wndow to create a new password for administrator [16:29] <_16aR_> on a 8.04 ubuntu [16:31] New bug: #287645 in tomcat-native "Protocol handler initialization failed: java.lang.Exception: Socket bind failed: [22] Invalid argument" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287645 === smarter_ is now known as smarter === smarter_ is now known as smarter [18:40] New bug: #330192 in squid (main) "Please supply us with Squid 3.0 Stable 13" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330192 [19:16] I want to turn my ubuntu desktop edition into server edition. how can I quickly remove all the GUI dependent applications (firefox, etc) [19:16] ? [19:17] !pureserver [19:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about pureserver [19:17] !nodesktop [19:17] Sorry, I don't know anything about nodesktop === quassel116 is now known as Voltron [19:51] 172 people in #ubuntu-server? [19:52] did we had a release i didn't know about? :) [19:56] ivoks: not that I know of, but sometimes things get past me, heh [19:56] hehe [19:57] anyone interested in uploading something for me in main? :) [20:09] anyone? it's a 70 lines long diff, bugfixes for dovecot-postfix? [20:09] i would but... [20:10] :) [20:10] but you don't have rw on main? :) [20:10] yep, that would be the issue :) [20:10] ScottK has rw on main :) [20:23] ivoks: 172 people, ~150 or so are lurking :) [20:24] ajmitch: probably yes - still, 3 years ago 7 people, ~5 lurking :) [20:25] wow... ubuntu 9.10 will be 5 years of ubuntu [20:25] time really goes fast [20:25] yeah, it does [20:33] it's time to apply for core-dev :) [20:36] ivoks: got stuff to upload? :) [20:36] small patch for dovecot :) [20:36] interested? :) [20:37] really a minor stuff, just typos (~70 lines) [20:37] if you want [20:37] * ajmitch just needs to update the jaunty pbuilder first [20:37] at least dovecot is something I use at work, just not with postfix :) [20:37] ivoks: i'd like to test dovecot, but need to runint in hardy [20:38] ajmitch: exim? [20:38] yeah [20:38] ivoks: especifically the sieve management [20:38] but on lenny for work, dovecot+exim on intrepid for home [20:39] i gave up on exim... um... 5-6 years ago [20:39] I don't find it too bad for what I need [20:39] jmedina: well, you can [20:39] partly because it'd take a bit of time to learn something else [20:39] jmedina: take a look at what we have done in intrepid [20:39] ajmitch: postfix is really a no-brainer [20:40] and lamont does a great job with packaging [20:40] ivoks: could you plase give me a rapid summary about dovecot integration in intrepid? [20:40] yeah, I may take a look at it in the future if I have time [20:40] ajmitch: patch is http://www.init.hr/dev/dovecot-postfix.2.patch [20:41] jmedina: we've added postfix/dovecot sasl integration, cmusieve scripting, dovecot-lda as delivery agent [20:41] jmedina: um... TLS bu default and maildir by default [20:42] ivoks: ok, won't take long [20:42] jmedina: and sievemanage service in dovecot for customizing scripts on server from your client [20:42] ivoks: cmusieve is for manual scripts? [20:42] ajmitch: great, thank you! [20:42] jmedina: cmusieve is sieve general sieve support in dovecot [20:42] jmedina: sievemanage is just a imap service that enables editing of sieve scripts from client [20:43] s/sieve general sieve/general sieve/ :D [20:43] ivoks: I like sievemanage, because it validates the sieve script (afaik) [20:43] that's true [20:43] with cmusieve, you need to be sure that the script is valid, it not, then your ruls wont work [20:44] that's manual editing of scripts [20:44] sievemanage doesn't deny or forbbid that... [20:44] it's just additional interface to writing sieve scripts [20:44] so, I want to test managesieve with the squirrelmail plugin and also with Horde's ingo [20:45] very powerful, true, but it doesn't replace cmusieve (it's based on top of it) [20:45] jmedina: i'm attracted to roundcube's sieve support [20:45] i've tested it only with thunderbird [20:45] ivoks: thunderbird sieve support? [20:45] I didnt know [20:45] yes [20:46] there's a plugin [20:46] http://sieve.mozdev.org/ [20:46] ivoks: dont you have a demo/testing server ? [20:46] :D [20:46] :) [20:47] create a virtualized jaunty server [20:47] and install dovecot-postfix package [20:47] and... that's it :D [20:48] it has couple of minor errors the moment, but once ajmitch uploads new version, those errors will vanish [20:49] is there any change to work in a hardy backport? [20:49] I can help [20:49] * ajmitch is currently waiting for a test build to finish [20:50] jmedina: there's no need to backport [20:50] jmedina: dovecot-postfix only manages configuration [20:50] jmedina: there's no binary in it [20:50] but hardy's dovecot doesnt include managesieve [20:50] jmedina: psssst... there's a bug in managesieve in hardy... kees is looking for volonters to test it :) [20:51] it doesn't? [20:51] hm... you are right [20:51] that is what I was 'backporting' from intrepid [20:52] well, I just changed something in control and rule files [20:52] and rebuild with dpkg-package [20:57] sommer: watching arsenal? :) [21:01] ivoks: hee, yeppers [21:01] good to have eduardo back :) [21:01] sommer: dudu has returned :) [21:01] ivoks: absolutely [21:02] sommer: he was missed in our nation team as well [21:02] ivoks: he's got crazy skillz, heh [21:04] ivoks: they need another goal and I'll be happy [21:07] hehe [21:07] \o/ yay! [21:07] eduardo:world 2:0 :) [21:08] that's so awesome! [21:08] if anyone deserves it, it's eduardo; he's just a great guy [21:09] definitely... hopefully he can help rescue what's left of the season :) [21:11] ivoks_: can you check debian/rules on dovecot, arch: all packages aren't getting built [21:11] huh [21:11] i tested it... [21:11] binary-indep: build install # nothing to do here [21:12] well it runs build and then install [21:12] and then nothing else [21:12] that should be ok [21:13] and the only calls to dh_builddeb, etc have -a [21:15] hm... [21:17] doh... [21:17] you are right [21:17] yeah, I thought I was a bit rusty but I got a little suspicious when there was 1 less package built with -0ubuntu2 [21:18] :) === ogra is now known as waldorf === waldorf is now known as ogra === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks [21:24] ajmitch: i'll create a new patch then [21:24] great :) [21:27] -i ivoks -i :) === andylockran is now known as andybreaksthebot [21:35] good, I just read about canonical and HP parnership [21:35] I guess HP will only support LTS === andybreaksthebot is now known as andylockran [21:40] ajmitch: www.init.hr/dev/dovecot-postfix.debdiff [21:41] not the cleanest way of doing it :) [21:42] no? [21:42] binary-indep rule is there for a reason, most packages have similar stuff to binary-arch, but with -i [21:43] similar, but the minimum required to build the arch:all package in that rule [21:43] it's mostly due to how arch: all packages are built on the buildds, only i386 does the binary-indep rule iirc [21:45] well, dovecot-postfix is binary indep package [21:46] i should grab a source with arch: all package and look at it [21:48] ah... i see [21:48] i'll do that tomorrow, it's 11PM :/ [21:48] ajmitch: thanks for help [21:49] no problem === quassel116 is now known as Voltron [22:56] leonel: I got the php-clamavlib figured out for Dapper, so I think we're about ready. [23:21] hey folks [23:21] I understand webmin is considered to be insecure to the point of being dangerious... is there a simple web admin console that people like these days? [23:22] SpaceBass: it depends what you want to manage [23:23] landscape!!!! [23:23] !ebox > SpaceBass [23:23] SpaceBass, please see my private message [23:23] thanks [23:23] just looking for a place to see simple stats... drive space, uptime, etc... maybe manage some things.... [23:26] ScottK any security concerns with ebox? ... box is not publicly accessible [23:26] * ScottK doesn't use it, so no idea. [23:26] That's just the one that's generally recommended here. [23:26] thanks [23:27] no stranger to bash... but there are times when I'd love to just check disk space, etc from an iphone [23:28] scottK how ? [23:29] It turned out not to be very hard. It just needed some postinst fiddling to backport the change we already had from Hardy. [23:29] SpaceBass: Get an ssh app for your iPhone. [23:29] ScottK got one :D [23:30] and it works fine... just a though today about webmin and thought I'd ask [23:32] scottK so no diff or php code searching .. [23:32] Yep. [23:32] ivoks, are you there? [23:32] so any tests you need ?? [23:32] @ping ivoks [23:32] scottK ? [23:32] ¬¬ [23:33] leonel: I think we're in pretty good shape right now. I need to do something with the sylpheed-claws packages and that's about it. [23:34] SpaceBass: webmin is still working in 8.10 isn't it? (unsupported as it is)? [23:35] MianoSM, I did some research this morning, and yeah i think it is [23:36] but I understand there are some serious flaws [23:36] I have it up and running perfectly fine on an 8.10 32bit. [23:36] If you are running a LAMP, it works just fine. I would be wary of some of the oddities though (like you need to work a little more with ssh to configure your apache install instead of just apache2.conf or httpd.conf). [23:46] is there a way to debug why cron seems to not be working? or executing my commands? [23:46] Do you have it sending standard out and standard error to /dev/null ? [23:47] for instance: /home/username/script.sh > /dev/null 2>&1 ? [23:50] Or you could grep your syslog for cron/script/etc?