[00:00] <DjFlyBy> mefisto__: well the proper setting is according to the bios/jumpers .... but in 8.10 it puts the primary master and secondary master backwards (ie. primary master is listed as secondary master) .. furthermore this causes grub to be installed to the wrong MB (puts it on (hd1) thinking it is (hd0))
[00:00] <DjFlyBy> when this happens, upon booting after the install, it just loads to the grub screen instead of loading the os
[00:01] <mefisto__> DjFlyBy: you can edit the grub entry before boot
[00:03] <mefisto__> DjFlyBy: was it an upgrade or fresh install?
[00:03] <DjFlyBy> mefisto__: fresh install
[00:04] <DjFlyBy> I tried upgrading the 7.10 but it errored out
[00:04] <DjFlyBy> so I just went with a fresh install instead
[00:06] <Bsims> I am trying to get notification to use system bell and i can't any ideas
[00:10] <mefisto__> DjFlyBy: are you booted now, or running livecd?
[00:12] <DjFlyBy> mefisto__: niether, I'm on another of my machines here
[00:12] <mefisto__> DjFlyBy: well you can either leave the disk order as it is and fix /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:13] <mefisto__> DjFlyBy: or fix that and /boot/grub/device.map if you want to reverse which is sda and sdb
[00:20] <DjFlyBy> mefisto__: I'll try that out, thanks.
[00:31] <ign0ramus> hey guys
[00:31] <ign0ramus> i really boned myself this time, anyone feel like helping out?
[00:32] <Bsims> What did ya do?
[00:32] <ign0ramus> I rm'd the /tmp/ directory, now can't login to X ... :/
[00:32]  * Bsims winces...
[00:32] <ign0ramus> I know...
[00:33] <Bsims> sudo mkdir /tmp and reboot
[00:33] <ign0ramus> did that... no luck.
[00:33] <ign0ramus> stuck in an endless cycle on login screen
[00:34] <Bsims> Darn... dunno man try asking in #debian up on irc.debian.org but don't let them know you are on ubuntu as it does somethings the same but not all and ask in #ubuntu
[00:35] <ign0ramus> I like it here... I'll hang out until one of the superstars shows up, or until i need a drink, whichever comes first ;)
[00:35]  * Bsims grins I've been here for half an hour waiting for an answer to my question
[00:37] <ign0ramus> bsims: what's your question?
[00:38] <Bsims> Well I want to enable system bell aka the beep from the speaker built in to the computer... It works but I can't tell kde 4.2 to used the bloody thing as a notification
[00:39] <ign0ramus> bsims: thats' a weird one... why not any other sounds?
[00:41] <Bsims> I have headphones plugged in... and I don't like external speakers
[00:41]  * Bsims grins If I am gonna watch porn I want it on my headphones and I use them for skype as well
[00:41] <ign0ramus> Bsims: system beep works through headphones?
[00:41] <ign0ramus> haha :)
[00:42] <Bsims> ign0ramus: well testing it in acessibiltiy it works properly I just can't get it to show as an option for konsole or konversation
[00:42] <Socceroos> ign0ramus
[00:43] <ign0ramus> yes...?
[00:43] <Socceroos> if you do a "ls -la /" on the command line, what does the /tmp dir show?
[00:43] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: quite a bit, and i can't c/p... what specifically are you looking for?
[00:44] <ign0ramus> for some reason, root owns everything but /home, is that right?
[00:44] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: you recreated the /tmp dir right? what are the permissions on /tmp (it will look something like rwxrwx
[00:44] <Socceroos> )
[00:45] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: drwxr-xr-x
[00:45] <Socceroos> and who is the owner of tmp?
[00:45] <Socceroos> root
[00:45] <ign0ramus> root
[00:45] <Socceroos> ?
[00:45] <Socceroos> cool
[00:46] <Socceroos> ok, try this: sudo chmod 777 /tmp
[00:46] <Socceroos> and then this: chmod +t /tmp
[00:46] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: done.
[00:47] <Socceroos> then paste the output of 'ls -la' (just the /tmp line)
[00:47] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: drwxrwxrwt root root ... tmp
[00:47] <austin> hey i made my desktop do this funky graphic move where i saw all my windows in a grd, how do i do it again?
[00:47] <Socceroos> cool
[00:47] <ign0ramus> (can't paste)
[00:47] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: startx now?
[00:48] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: now tell me the output of this command: echo TMPDIR
[00:48] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: just says "TMPDIR"
[00:48] <Socceroos> sorry: echo $TMPDIR
[00:49] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: Blank line, and then prompt
[00:49] <ign0ramus> no output
[00:49] <austin> anyone?
[00:49] <unity_punk> what other neat things can i do with my debian server...
[00:49] <Socceroos> ok try this: TMPDIR=/tmp
[00:49] <Bsims> austin: its part of compix and I can't remember sorry
[00:49] <mefisto__> austin: move your mouse to bottom right of screen
[00:50] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: no output, goes to next prompt line
[00:50] <austin> mefisto__: then what?
[00:50] <Socceroos> cool, thats good
[00:50] <Socceroos> now try startx =)
[00:50] <austin> what do i do then?
[00:50] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: "Server is already active for display 0"
[00:51] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: reboot?\
[00:51] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: yeah, reboot
[00:51] <mefisto__> austin: ok, try ctrl+F8 instead
[00:51] <ign0ramus> *crosses fingers*
[00:51] <austin> mefisto__: lol not quite, but still cool (it did somethign esle) is there like a page of key shorts?
[00:52] <austin> found it, Cntrl+f9
[00:52] <Bsims> I want to use the system speaker as a notification on Intrepid kde 4.2 and it's not working... any ideas?
[00:52] <austin> any way to link keyshorts to mous clicks?
[00:52] <mefisto__> austin: it's called desktop grid, in desktop effects
[00:53] <Bsims> austin: Yeah at least in 4.2 at least if you use native kwin
[00:53] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: gave username and password, now prompts to "enter the name of the host you want to log in to"... ?
[00:53] <mefisto__> austin: you mean you want mouse clicks to do a keyboard combination?
[00:53] <austin> like i have  a foward, back, center click, and left and right click buttons on my mouse
[00:53] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: odd, try just giving it: localhost
[00:53] <mefisto__> austin: try btnx
[00:53] <austin> btnx?
[00:53] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: kicks me back out to login screen :(
[00:54] <mefisto__> !info btnx
[00:54] <Bsims> I want to use the system bell as a notification on Intrepid kde 4.2 and it's not working... any ideas?
[00:54] <Socceroos> command line login or Xserver login?
[00:54] <ign0ramus> Xserver
[00:54] <Bsims> Hrm this sucks up arrow to repeat just went away
[00:54] <austin> mefist__: what is btnx?
[00:54] <Socceroos> ok, so you at least have your X back?
[00:54] <ign0ramus> and 127.0.0.1 doesn't work either
[00:54] <austin> menfisto__: What is btnx?
[00:54] <Socceroos> Now we just need to get you logged in.
[00:55] <Socceroos> gimme a sec
[00:55] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: yes, I have graphical interface back but cannot log in
[00:55] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: yup, you got it ;)
[00:55] <mefisto__> austin: it's not it intrepid. it IS in hardy and jaunty, however. it's a program that can map mouse events to kbd combinations, etc. easy gui config
[00:56] <austin> mefisto__: how do i go about setting it?
[00:56] <mefisto__> austin: what do you have installed? 8.10 intrepid?
[00:57] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: I'm in!
[00:58] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: what was it?
[00:58] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: not sure, it let me in for failsafe... and then I tried to log in under KDE3 session, and voila!
[00:58] <mefisto__> austin: I found this with a quick google search: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935469
[00:58] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: I'm not confident that I'll be so lucky once I reboot, though... :/
[01:00] <austin> mefisto__: I'm a sort of a n00b, so yah
[01:00] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: yeah. I'm just reading about it. it seems that KDM has been corrupted or misconfigured when it lost the /tmp dir. it keeps thinking you're logging in from a remote machine. try rebooting again and if it prompts you again for the 'host' just put 'username@localhost'.
[01:00] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: will do.
[01:01] <Bsims> Shit doesn't work
[01:01] <austin> imconfused
[01:01] <austin> brb
[01:02] <khalidmian> i would like more information on krdc - i have real vnc installed on 2 window machines - can i use krdc to connect and if so how?
[01:02] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: if after reboot it still wont let you in then try: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:02] <Socceroos> "dpkg-reconfigure" is one word =)
[01:03] <mefisto__> austin: sudo apt-get install xmacro    then figure out how it works
[01:03] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: haha! it works again
[01:03] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: do you think i should reconfigure, just in case?
[01:04] <Socceroos> nah, if you're logging in fine now then just leave it like it is =)
[01:04] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: thanks for all your help, man
[01:04] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: no problems! =)
[01:05] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: I've been pretty good about avoiding idiotic moves in the year or so I've been using (K)Ubuntu, but I just got lazy today and decided that if I needed root privileges to remove some stuff from /tmp/, i'd just be smart and nuke it from cli  :)
[01:06] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: lol. Its good to explore -  its the best way to learn. Now you know that many programs on linux rely on /tmp to function properly. Its a security thing.
[01:07] <mefisto__> ign0ramus: also, all users need access to /tmp
[01:07] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: I usually do some reading before making any changes, but I still have stupid Windows habits (like deleting the entire temporary directory, thinking that a reboot will replace it).  D'oh!
[01:08] <khalidmian> i would like more information on krdc - i have real vnc installed on 2 window machines - can i use krdc to connect and if so how?
[01:08] <mefisto__> ign0ramus: maybe it should be created on boot if it doesn't exist. not a bad idea
[01:08] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: fair enough. It takes any seasoned windows user a while to see how different Linux operates. Its not that its bad - just different =)
[01:08] <Bsims> Jesus I even tried echo -e \\a as a program to get it to beep the system speaker on a new message and nothing
[01:09] <ign0ramus> mefisto__: I agree.  Haven't seen you in a while.  Cheers!
[01:09] <ign0ramus> Socceroos: Thanks again mate.  Time for me to get some drinks, and to get of this Windows box! :)
[01:09] <ign0ramus> off*
[01:09] <Socceroos> ign0ramus: enjoy your drinks =)
[01:09] <ign0ramus> I'm an idiot.
[01:09] <ign0ramus> thanks
[01:11] <Dragnslcr> khalidmian- I think krdc can do VNC connections
[01:12] <dr_Willis> Yes it can Dragnslcr  - i think :) i used it befor. for vnc
[01:12] <Dragnslcr> I don't think I've used it for VNC, but it looks pretty simple. Just pick 'vnc' from the protocol list in the address ba
[01:12] <Dragnslcr> bar
[01:13] <khalidmian> Dragnslcr: i have tried using krdc to connect all i see is a blue screen
[01:14] <Socceroos> mefisto__: detecting the lack of a /tmp dir would be nice - but perhaps not at boot. We're all trying to cut down boot times =)
[01:15] <wyred> hi! i'm using ubuntu 2.6.24 hardy, when i apt-get install kde and execute startx i can't even get into the gui. it give an error X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X no such file or directory
[01:16] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:16] <khalidmian> how do i untar a tar.qz file and install it
[01:16] <mefisto__> Socceroos: I doubt it would increase boot time, just checking if the dir exists. if it doesn't and needs to be created, that may take a split second
[01:18] <khalidmian> how do i install vnc.tar.gz file in kubuntu
[01:19] <dr_Willis> khalidmian,  why do you need to? theres dozens of vnc clients and servers
[01:19] <PSiL0> For peeps using firefox on kubuntu intrepid running kde 4.2.0, have any of you noticed some dropped functionality in some of the extensions?  In my case, my minimize mouse gesture just works once, and then ceases to work at all during the open session
[01:20] <dr_Willis> dropped functionality ? Sounds like a bug/extension crashing to me. :)
[01:20] <marcel> how can  change file attributes from a terminal command ??
[01:21] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: mouse gestures and certain keybindings would need to be configured manually as those extensions are not exactly setup with kde in mind
[01:21] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: i have realvnc in two window desktops whilst trying to access it via krdc i have not been able to thus i need realvnc unless you can tell a solution to the prob
[01:21] <mefisto__> marcel: chmod --help
[01:21] <marcel> mefisto: thank you
[01:21] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: be sure kde's mouse gestures and keybindings are not contradicting them
[01:22] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: I configured them in firefox using two different extensions to no available... hmmm, where can I find kde's mouse gestures?
[01:22] <dr_Willis> any vnc client should work/be able to connect to most any vnc server
[01:22] <dr_Willis> I would imagine the problem is you are either getting firewalled, or doing somthing wrong.
[01:22] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: let me have a look.. sec
[01:22] <khalidmian> i have tried krdc but it doesnt seem to connect
[01:23] <dr_Willis> !find realvnc
[01:23] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: I had to create a new keybinding to minimize open windows after my problem reared its ugly head
[01:23] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[01:23] <dr_Willis> I tend to use the vnc4server and vnc4client
[01:23] <dr_Willis> !find vnc4
[01:23] <dr_Willis> xvnc4viewer - works for me most all the time ive ever used it
[01:23] <Paddy_EIRE> I may have been mistaken with kde having mouse gesture support built in actuallly
[01:24] <dr_Willis> Paddy_EIRE,  i seem to recall that feature   somewhere.. :) but that may of been in 3.5
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[01:24] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE:  Yeah, I would have noticed it in 4.2.0 if there were any...  ahh, thanx dr_willis
[01:24] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: xvnc? where do i get that from
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: hmm.. well if you can make the bug repeatable then I would report it to the appropriate extensions bug page
[01:25] <PSiL0> also working in an imaging laboratory, nepomuk goes all crazy when transferring image data sets, everything down
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: nepomuk still has a few problems :(
[01:25] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: Yeah, I'll do that... I've tried to find a solution through this channel and the forums to no avail
[01:26] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: Yeah, even with information panel switched off, dolphin (in 4.2.0) is still painfully slow at times..
[01:26] <mefisto__> Paddy_EIRE: is systemsettings, input actions  what you mean?
[01:26] <Paddy_EIRE> mefisto__: yeah actually I think that may be it
[01:27] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah it is
[01:27] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: ^
[01:27] <austin> back
[01:27] <austin> so about that
[01:27] <Paddy_EIRE> what mefisto__ said
[01:27] <austin> it just hapend again, and i didn't click nothin
[01:27] <Paddy_EIRE> I am not familar austin... what just happened again?
[01:28] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: well, that is where I set up my keyboard shortcuts to control banshee
[01:28] <austin> Paddy_EIRE: I launched one of the graphic fancy things with my mouse, and i don't know how i did it
[01:28] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: there are "konqueror gestures" in there.. perhaps those are interfering
[01:28] <austin> where all my windows show up in a grid
[01:28] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: checking...
[01:28] <Paddy_EIRE> austin: top left corner
[01:29] <austin> Paddy_EIRE: Your a genious! :D thank you :)
[01:29] <Paddy_EIRE> heh
[01:29] <austin> Paddy_EIRE: any idea how to show the plasma desktop (like mouse movements)
[01:30] <Paddy_EIRE> austin: hmm.. I think I had that once.. just a moment
[01:30] <austin> Ok
[01:30] <khalidmian> where does xvnc install to?
[01:30] <khalidmian> i cant find it in prog list
[01:30] <mefisto__> austin: does ctrl-D do it?
[01:30] <austin> mefitso__: no
[01:31] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: no beans... like all of the other instances, the gesture works the first time, and fails thereafter
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> :(
[01:31] <dr_Willis> khalidmian,  xvnc4viewer is the package name and the name of the binary i belive
[01:31] <mefisto__> austin: do you have a "show plasma dashboard" icon on the panel?
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: tried logging out and back in with the new settings?
[01:31] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: I wish firefox had a debugging mode.. The error console is pretty much worthless in trying to identify my problem
[01:32] <austin> mefisto__: mhm, i do
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> mefisto__: thats what I was thinking... he could set the shortcut
[01:32] <austin> how do i set shortcuts?
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: hmm.. I though FF had a debug mode
[01:32] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: i just installed xnvcviewer package how do i connect to remote machine?
[01:32] <mefisto__> austin: right-click that icon
[01:32] <austin> ok
[01:33] <austin> mefitso__: Ok
[01:33] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: oh yeah, my kubuntu cannot shutdown without a hard shutdown (pressing power button)... accroding to sudo shutdown in my tty1 session, it seems that kdm cannot shutdown... it has been like this ever since installing ati catalyst 9.1
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> bloody catalyst :S
[01:34] <Paddy_EIRE> I am sorry but I find that like trying to ice skate uphill
[01:34] <Paddy_EIRE> D:
[01:34] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: Haha, I agree with you on that one..
[01:34] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[01:35] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: AFAIK, Firefox used to have a debug mode.. correct me if I'm wrong here.. It would be nice to have one so I can see all of its output in konsole
[01:36] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: what program do i use to connect to vnc server after installing xvncviewer package
[01:36] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: as for catalyst 9.1, I guess it is the price I pay for living on the bleeding edge
[01:36] <Paddy_EIRE> I must google that one.. i would not mind knowing myself
[01:36] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: :(
[01:36] <mefisto__> austin: look in systemsettings > keyboard & mouse > global keyboard shortcuts, then choose "plasma workspace" from the dropdown menu (that's how it looks in kde 4.2 anyway)
[01:37] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843... I guess they outsourced it...
[01:37] <mefisto__> do you need catalyst?
[01:37] <Paddy_EIRE> well that would be worth asking yourself
[01:38] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: ah yeah.. firebug.. that is what I was thinking of
[01:38] <mefisto__> doesn't seem to do much for me, but I've only ever installed it from ubuntu repos
[01:38] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah me too.. although I avoid it like mad now
[01:39] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: ah.. firebug is for debugging web pages
[01:39] <Paddy_EIRE> not FF itself
[01:39] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: ahh okay
[01:39] <mefisto__> firebug is awesome though
[01:40] <austin> mefitso__: ok then what
[01:40] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: perhaps this may be of some use http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode
[01:40] <Paddy_EIRE> brb.. gotta smoke
[01:41] <mefisto__> austin: what are you doing? in systemsettings? or right-click that panel icon?
[01:41] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: ahh, safebox disables all of the extensions, including the mouse gestures one I use...
[01:41] <austin> mefitso__: I'm in system settings right now
[01:42] <mefisto__> PSiL0: firefox -safe-mode   starts it with extensions/themes disabled
[01:42] <PSiL0> mefisto_: I know...
[01:42] <mefisto__> austin: if you've set the dropdown menu to plasma workspace, you should be able to set shortcuts
[01:43] <PSiL0> mefisto_: whoops, I guess I called it safebox, my bad..
[01:43] <khalidmian> does anyone know why i dont have a program folder/icon for xvnc4viewer
[01:44] <austin> mefitso__: its not registering my middle click
[01:45] <mefisto__> austin: that's for keyboard shortcuts
[01:45] <austin> ah, but i wan't one for the mouse
[01:45] <austin> Like u do on the mac
[01:46] <mefisto__> austin: you could map middle-click to a keyboard combination. but then you can't middle click without it triggering
[01:47] <austin> mefisto__: ok that would work....any i'll map cntl+f12 for it....how do i go about mapping for middle click?
[01:48] <austin> and lol what the hell is cntrl+meta????
[01:48] <mefisto__> austin: btnx would make it very easy to do. but you could try installing xmacro as mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935469
[01:49] <austin>  think i got it installed already
[01:49] <austin> sudo apt-get install xmacro
[01:49] <austin> correct?
[01:49] <mefisto__> austin: yes. now man xmacro to find out how it works I suppose
[01:50] <austin> sudo apt-get install xmacro
[01:50] <austin> is what i get
[01:50] <mefisto__> austin: and meta or super key is usually the Win key
[01:50] <austin> yah that key, lol it  makes starts arund my cursor...is that all its for
[01:53] <khalidmian> all im asking is either help in installation of vnctar.gz file OR help with xvncviewer
[01:55] <khalidmian> how do i use xvncviewer
[01:55] <austin> anyone know how to get emulators?
[01:55] <austin> like for n64 and nes and such
[01:55] <austin> mainly n64
[01:56] <khalidmian> games section in add/remove programs austin
[01:56] <Paddy_EIRE> austin: I dont think an n64 emulator would be there
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> you may need to google that one austin
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> there are many other emulators there howevere
[01:57] <austin> ah ok i thik i might have found one....kamefu?
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> *however
[01:57] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: so is "firefox -g" the debugging mode?
[01:57] <austin> oh ok cool i'll check e'm out
[01:57] <austin> thanks guys
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[01:58] <khalidmian> how do i install a tar.gz file
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> !source
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> umm
[01:58] <PSiL0> I ran it before and tried to see if anything weird showed up, but ended up with nada
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[01:58] <PSiL0> khalidmian: tar -xvf name.tar.gz
[01:58] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: I am taking a look
[01:59] <PSiL0> follow the readme file
[02:01] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: try "firefox --debug"
[02:02] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm.. it also says "Start within /usr/bin/gdb (Mustbe first)"
[02:03] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: yup same thing as in -g.... anyways, I ran it in this mode before and I saw nothing that looked strange when running firefox in it
[02:03] <khalidmian> PSiL0: all i did is create a folder for the tar file how do i install the porgem i wish to install
[02:03] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm.. you need firefox installed with debugging symbols enabled PSiL0
[02:03] <Paddy_EIRE> khalidmian: read the read me like he said
[02:04] <PSiL0> khalidman: go into the directory and see if there is a readme file... usually you either ./configure or make a build directory and use make to compile the source in ..
[02:04] <Paddy_EIRE> khalidmian: which is all explained in the readme
[02:05] <khalidmian> all im looking for is a realvnc type program for kubuntu
[02:06] <Paddy_EIRE> "all I want" does not make things instantly gratifying khalidmian
[02:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !vnc | khalidmian
[02:08] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: hmm, looks like I have to compile a nightly build.... can't find firefox-dpg for intrepid :(
[02:08] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm.. really?
[02:08] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox-dbg
[02:08] <Paddy_EIRE> you have the source repo enabled... right?
[02:08] <PSiL0> seems like it
[02:08] <Paddy_EIRE> gah
[02:10] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: just checked my sources.list and I have the source repos enabled
[02:10] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah it seems there is no -dbg for ff in intrepid
[02:10] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[02:11] <Paddy_EIRE> I wonder if -dev would be any use
[02:11] <Paddy_EIRE> I would not be so sure one that though
[02:11] <Paddy_EIRE> *on
[02:12] <khalidmian> i have tried using krdc to connect to realvnc i have in 2 desktops without avail then i installed xvnc4viewer but i cant seem to find any program that i can use to connect to my remote computers
[02:12] <Paddy_EIRE> khalidmian: tried running xvnc4viewer from the terminal
[02:13] <khalidmian> how do i do that?
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> perhaps your menus have not updated to sho the change
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> *show
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> khalidmian: alt+f2 then type konsole
[02:13] <Paddy_EIRE> then type xvnc4viewer and press enter
[02:14] <Paddy_EIRE> just to see
[02:15] <anarchy> is there any way to make kde4 look like osx.... something like bahgira?
[02:15] <Paddy_EIRE> D:
[02:15] <austin> anyone know a good podcast client for kubuntu?
[02:16] <Paddy_EIRE> amarok
[02:16] <austin> that one works good for video?
[02:16] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[02:16] <Paddy_EIRE> you would use a seperate player for that austin
[02:16] <austin> xD anyone know  agood one for videos?
[02:16] <austin> paddy_eire: which one?
[02:16] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone you want
[02:16] <austin> Iused to use GTK pod, will this work in kubuntu
[02:16] <PSiL0> austin: vlc? banshee (mono, gnome)
[02:16] <Paddy_EIRE> amarok jsut aggregates them
[02:17] <Paddy_EIRE> *just
[02:17] <austin> what does that mean?
[02:17] <Paddy_EIRE> lists and downloads them
[02:17] <Paddy_EIRE> allows you to add feeds etc..
[02:17] <austin> oh ok, it lists and downloads only audio though right
[02:17] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[02:17] <Paddy_EIRE> both
[02:18] <austin> oh nice
[02:18] <austin> how do i get it to sync?
[02:18] <Paddy_EIRE> austin: with?
[02:18] <austin> paddy_EIRE: Ipod video, 4th gen
[02:18] <Paddy_EIRE> ah.. then I would suggest banshee which is a gnome app
[02:19] <austin> what can i use for kde?
[02:19] <Paddy_EIRE> of course :)
[02:19] <Paddy_EIRE> it may pull down quite a few dependencies though
[02:19] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: anyways, thanks for your help.. It pains me that some functionality (essential for me) becomes crippled for some reason, and I cannot view any debug log that can point out the issue..  And in the meantime, firefox on my win xp partition (same extensions, whatnot) runs perfectly fine... oopps, did I say a bad word here?
[02:19] <austin> wate, so i can use banshee in kde
[02:19] <austin> ?
[02:20] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: linux = windows?
[02:20] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[02:20] <Paddy_EIRE> since when :O
[02:20] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: or even the mere mention of the word :p
[02:20] <Paddy_EIRE> hehe
[02:20] <austin> PSiLO: Worst come to worste use VM!
[02:21] <austin> idk what u guys are talking about...
[02:21] <Paddy_EIRE> I could only point you to
[02:21] <Paddy_EIRE> !lnw | PSiL0
[02:21] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[02:21] <dwidmann> !language |
[02:21]  * Paddy_EIRE hides
[02:21] <dwidmann> hehehe
[02:21] <austin> !language
[02:21] <PSiL0> austin: yeah, banshee runs fine on kubuntu.. it installs mono dependencies along with it..
[02:21] <austin> PSiLO: is that bad?
[02:21] <austin> !language |
[02:21] <austin> :)
[02:22] <PSiL0> austin: I do not recall it installing too many gnome dependencies, which I guess is why I run it for my podcasts and leave amarok for the heavy duty lifting of playing my collection ;_
[02:22] <Paddy_EIRE> austin: no its not bad.. just not native to kde thats all
[02:22] <Paddy_EIRE> otherwise its perfectly suitable :)
[02:22] <austin> ok
[02:22] <austin> so what about gPodder?
[02:22] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: same here.. I just use banshee for ipod syncing
[02:22] <austin> i used that once, it worked great (untill it messed up)
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> gpodder is also not a native kde app
[02:23] <dwidmann> I've had good luck with gtkpod myself
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> although I do like gpodder its nice
[02:23] <austin> alright so callaboratively, to go from iternets to ipod, what do you all reccoment
[02:23] <Paddy_EIRE> banshee
[02:23] <austin> *reccomend
[02:23] <austin> banshee = 1
[02:23] <PSiL0> austin: I mean, nothing is preventing you from running gnome apps on kubuntu, especially for multimedia purposes
[02:24] <austin> alright cool
[02:24] <austin> so sudo apt-get install banshee?
[02:24] <PSiL0> austin: yup
[02:24] <luis_> good night guys i like to ask for ur help i am trying to get my scan working i found this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471 first thing is done but the second says Debianize the file, i dont know what does it means much less how to do it can somebody helpme on this pls???
[02:25] <luis_> by the way i have a multifunctional epson stylus cx5600, printer is just fine, but the scan is not working according to that guide it can be
[02:26] <PSiL0> austin: to get a consistant look with gnome apps on kubuntu, check this page out: http://kims-area.com/?q=node/62
[02:26] <PSiL0> austin: also check out gtk-qt-curve
[02:26] <BluesKaj> austin , GTKpod should work on kde , the apps will run on each other'd desktops
[02:27] <PSiL0> austin: I lxappearance to get the gtk-theme and icons to appear on gnome apps in kubuntu
[02:27] <PSiL0> so far so good..
[02:27] <mefisto__> luis_: it means turn a .rpm into a .deb
[02:27] <BluesKaj> !rpm
[02:27] <luis_> ok and how do i do that??
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !alien
[02:28] <mefisto__> luis_: that page you linked us to tells you exactly how
[02:28] <PSiL0> although, if this firefox issue persists, I may have to migrate back to winxp (I said it again) because I just got too used to using mouse gestures over the years...
[02:28] <luis_> in the second part say to Debianize iam sorry is just that i thing i do understand what u told me but no how to do it
[02:29] <austin> well u know what PSiLO
[02:29] <austin> the day unixy2k comes, you won't even HAVE  a mouse
[02:30] <mefisto__> luis_: that is an old howto. did you go to the drivers download page? it has ubuntu packages
[02:30] <austin> PSiLO: and have you tryed the Ubuntu IRC?  No offence to this room, but they've been more elpfull when it came to general apps across all linux distros
[02:31] <austin> hey guys, i got banshee up and running
[02:31] <austin> now how do i add feeds and the like
[02:31] <cbwcjw> If you have specific ubuntu questions that we cant answer, go to #ubuntu, if you have specific KDE questions that we cant answer, go to #kde
[02:32] <austin> anyonez?
[02:33] <PSiL0> austin: well, I thought that since this problem cropped up after the first or second kubuntu updates post-kde4.2.0 install I would find the answer here or on the kubuntu forums
[02:34] <austin> PSiL0: i've never used FF jestures, so i wouldn't know
[02:35] <PSiL0> austin: right-click on podcasts?  I don't know because I disabled the podcast extension after the banshee podcast update wanted to eat my core2duo cpu alive.. THe problem was that banshee decided to list every episode of every podcast (not download them) I subscribed (10k+)
[02:35] <unity_punk> installing intreped
[02:35] <unity_punk> how is it?
[02:35] <austin> PSiLO: xD shiznit
[02:35] <austin> how did u do that, so i like, don't make the smae mistake
[02:37] <PSiL0> austin: well, I subscribed to a few npr feeds, bbcnews, and world soccer daily... when listing all of the podcast episodes, banshee thought it would be fun to see if it could fry my cpu on the spot
[02:37] <unity_punk> uhoh
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> austin: well you could take the plunge.. "learning by doing" is my motto
[02:37] <unity_punk> is upgrading to ibex gonna reset all my settings?
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> once I get out of prison that is
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> <_<
[02:37] <austin> lolz
[02:37] <PSiL0> unity_punk: intrepid is fine so long as you like kde 4
[02:37] <unity_punk> yeah
[02:37] <austin> well, i got Buzz out loud to download
[02:37] <unity_punk> but i have copiz set up all nice
[02:37] <unity_punk> *compiz
[02:37] <austin> how would i go about syncing it? w.o loosing my muzic
[02:38] <austin> do i sync music with amarak and podcasts with banshee?
[02:38] <PSiL0> unity_punk: kde 4.2.0 runs well using kwin.. plus, I used kwin ever since kde 4.1.2... I tried compiz on one intrepid install, and it didn't do much, ahem..
[02:39] <PSiL0> unity_punk: kwin has most of the eye candy from compiz, I think...
[02:39] <cshaw> hey all
[02:40] <mefisto__> unity_punk: try installing it in virtualbox and see what it's like. that's what I have done, and I've decided to wait for jaunty before upgrading my main kubuntu install
[02:44] <Sir_Captain> hello all, i was wondering if you had any suggestions for a program to copy dvds.  i tried copying an encrypted dvd with k3b, but it didn't work.  i also tried acidrip, but didn't get it to work either.  any ideas?
[02:45] <mefisto__> Sir_Captain: k9copy
[02:45] <Sir_Captain> mefisto__: rgr, i'll try.  thanks
[02:45] <austin> do i just plug in my ipod for banshee? will it auto dedect?
[02:46] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: hmmm, with compositing off, the firefox bug is gone...
[02:46] <mefisto__> Sir_Captain: even lets you easily remove chapters you don't want (eg, trailers, logos)
[02:47] <austin> Sir_Captain: Just downlaed it, looks good tome :) i'de give it a shot
[02:47] <mefisto__> PSiL0: sounds like kwin was overriding something that mouse gestures extension was waiting for
[02:48] <PSiL0> mefisto__: Yeah, I'm messing around with the compositing settings right now in desktop effects
[02:48] <felipe__> hola
[02:48] <felipe__> alguien que me pueda ayudar???
[02:48] <felipe__> tengo el siguiente problema
[02:48] <felipe__> no puedo conectar el sonido de los audifonos
[02:49] <mefisto__> !es | felipe__
[02:51] <PSiL0> mefisto__: any idea how kwin might be doing this or where could I find the appropriate settings?
[02:52] <PSiL0> mefisto__: I did notice that my problem came up after a kwin upgrade
[02:53] <shumba> I can see my usb device with lsusb, but where is is in /dev/* so that I can mount it, or is there a different way to mount it?
[02:54] <mefisto__> PSiL0: no idea. I guess a systematic way to try finding out is to disable all the desktop effects, then enable them one at a time until you get mouse gestures not working
[02:54] <PSiL0> mefisto__: well, it is definitely it is not opengl since xrender has the same problem.. *sigh* I might have to do what you recommended just now
[02:56] <shumba> anyone knows how to repair a damaged usb drive, please help
[02:56] <mefisto__> PSiL0: you could enable say 5 effects at a time, but that might get confusing
[02:57] <PSiL0> mefisto__: well, I'm turning all of them off, while leaving compositing on to test things out at the moment
[02:58] <PSiL0> mefisto__: well, leaving compositing on while turning all of the effects does not appear to have fixed it.. the only time when the bug is fixed is when I turn off compositing (shift-alt-f12)
[02:59] <PSiL0> mefisto__: So, I think it is the kwin's compositing engine at fault here...
[02:59] <Walzmyn> alt+f1 does not bring up the kmenu, i tried to set a keyboard shortcut and it tells me that it is conflicting with a shortcut that will open kmenu
[02:59] <PSiL0> mefisto__: time to file a bug report I guess
[03:00] <mefisto__> shumba: when the usb drive is plugged in, sudo fdisk -l
[03:01] <mefisto__> shumba: for me it shows up as /dev/sdf1
[03:01] <shumba> I have done that
[03:02] <shumba> ls /dev/sd* gives me /dev/sda?? which is my hard drive and partitions
[03:02] <shumba> like I said, only lsusb appears to detect the usb drive. i'm trying to repair it
[03:05] <shumba> Any alternatives to Testdisk recovery tool. I tried it but didn't work
[03:09] <Paddy_EIRE> shumba: I believe the "SystemRescueCD" comes with many utilities just for that task.
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> shumba: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> worth a try.. its a handy cd to have in your arsenal.. and its a small download.
[03:13] <mefisto__> shumba: try this: tail -f /var/log/messages         then plug in the usb drive and see what messages turn up
[03:17] <shumba> I have deleted the /var/log/messages, and the SystemRescueCD already has TestiDisk and Gparted both of which have failed
[03:18] <mefisto__> shumba: you deleted /var/log/messages  why?
[03:19] <shumba> mefisto, I wanted my system to write fresh contents. it doesnt seem to do that now, but I think I will be alright
[03:21] <shumba> I was trying to delete everything but the messages file so i typed #rm -f messages*, and I lost messages as well, lol
[03:21] <mefisto__> shumba: to create an empty messages file: sudo touch /var/log/messages
[03:22] <mefisto__> shumba: then this: tail -f /var/log/messages        and watch for messages when you plug in the usb
[03:22] <shumba> sory I have created one already, then tried to disconnect and connect my USB to see if anything new will be written to messages file, but nothing so far
[03:22] <shumba> useful command, i will try it right away ...
[03:25] <shumba> this USB drive is a tough nut, mefisto, nothing is happening with the tail command
[03:25] <mefisto__> shumba: what happened to it?
[03:26] <mefisto__> shumba: you're sure the usb port is definitely working?
[03:27] <shumba> the port is fine, I have 3 others working on it. also, I can see the problem drive when I type lsusb
[03:29] <shumba> mefisto: do u know any partitioning or repair utilities that could help? I think that is the problem
[03:38] <michael1> Does anyone know if it is possible to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 without adept_manager? From the commandline would be nice.
[03:39] <halfsane> michael1: have you tried apt-get update -d ?
[03:39] <halfsane> michael1: might work if you boot too recovery mode and drop to prompt with netoworking
[03:40] <michael1> Well, I've already upgraded, but it was interrupted. What I want to do is see what was left undone. For example, my sources.list wasn't completely changed from hardy to intrepid.
[03:42] <halfsane> the update manager isn't catching that?
[03:43] <michael1> Apparently not...the lines not updated were commented out, the backports and kin. But things like some plasma applets aren't working and some 3.5 wasn't removed...so I'm thinking there are still things that need to be done.
[03:43] <michael1> My upgrade at work wasn't interrupted, and plasma is working fine there.
[03:44] <halfsane> sounds like you need a way to sweep through everything again.. i wonder if you trick your install to basically think its intrepid and start all over?
[03:46] <michael1> Well, it is intrepid now. Just I think incomplete possibly. It was installing the downloaded packages when it was interrupted, and I'm wondering if there is anything that comes after that. I'm hoping not and I can call it a finished update.
[03:47] <michael1> Well...what does the install check to see if it's intrepid or hardy?
[03:48] <designs703> Hi everyone. KDE 4 is great!
[03:48] <halfsane> good question ;)
[03:48] <michael1> Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. :)
[03:48] <designs703> Other than an alpha demo on OpenSuSE, I hadn't used KDE 4
[03:48] <qcjn> problem connecting cell phone to computer via bluetooth...something with obex
[03:49] <halfsane> michael1: if you have backups you can always try a clean install
[03:49] <designs703> I heard a lot of flack...not sure why. Anyway, I installed from Ubuntu, not Kubuntu. How can I remove GNOME and its dependencies (other than important GTK stuff)?
[03:50] <halfsane> designs703: synaptic should take care of that
[03:50] <michael1> Well, I'm hoping to avoid that if possible. I have my /home on a separate partition...might wait till 9.04 instead if there are no major problems.
[03:51] <designs703> halfsane: I mean, what should I target? The top-most packages are usually meta-packages.
[03:52] <mefisto__> michael1: do-release-upgrade ?
[03:52] <halfsane> michael1: 9.04 is pretty stable , i have been running it for weeks now.  going up to that would not be a bad idea
[03:53] <mefisto__> michael1: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading look at the bottom of that page, under "network upgrade for ubuntu servers"
[03:53] <halfsane> designs703: i am not sure on that :/
[03:54] <designs703> halfsane: No problem, I've done it (a while ago)
[03:56] <failers> what would you guys say the best java IDE would be?
[03:56] <designs703> what's the name of that package that styles GTK+ widgets as Qt?
[03:56] <designs703> failers: Eclipse is popular
[03:56] <designs703> failers: See jEdit and Netbeans too. But I don't code Java so don't ask me
[03:57] <mefisto__> designs703: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:58] <mefisto__> designs703: that's for intrepid. I assume that's what you have installed
[03:59] <designs703> mefisto: awesome, thanks
[03:59] <failers> designs703: oki thx for the tips gonna check them out
[04:00] <jag217> hello
[04:00] <designs703> mefisto: Do you know about the widget package I referred to?
[04:00] <designs703> jag217: hello
[04:00] <cbwcjw> !hi | jag217
[04:01] <jag217> Hi I just installed Ubuntu on my new mini 9
[04:01] <jag217> thank you ub0ottu
[04:01] <jag217> keyboard a bit crowded
[04:01] <mefisto__> designs703: what widget package? I can't find where you said that
[04:02] <jag217> can .avi's be played in ubuntu
[04:02] <designs703> jag217: Try VLC. I think so
[04:02] <jag217> thanks
[04:02] <jag217> got to go starbucks closing
[04:05] <designs703> Where can I turn off the desktop effects in KDE?
[04:07] <mefisto__> designs703: right-click a window titlebar, configure window behaviour
[04:09] <designs703> mefisto: thanks. Sorry for the dumb questions; I haven't used Linux on a desktop in a couple years
[04:11] <mefisto__> designs703: no prob. kde 4 is quite new for everyone anyway
[04:16] <designs703> OK, thanks for all the help. see you guys around
[04:16] <mefisto__> designs703: is gtk-qt-engine what you're looking for?
[04:20] <Peeps> Gah
[04:20] <Peeps> How do I get my taskbar back?
[04:20] <Peeps> I accidentilly removed it. :(
[04:21] <Peeps> Anyone?
[04:22] <michael1> mefisto__: Should that be as root? Does it apply for kubuntu as well?
[04:23] <mefisto__> michael1: what as root?
[04:24] <michael1> mefisto__: do-release-upgrade. But I'm checking the webpage you sent...I didn't realize you sent it, too.
[04:24] <mefisto__> michael1: yes, sudo with that
[04:25] <mefisto__> michael1: as that page says
[04:26] <michael1> mefisto__: Yes, reading it now...
[04:27] <mefisto__> Peeps: kde 4 ?
[04:28] <Peeps> Yeah
[04:28] <mefisto__> Peeps: right-click the desktop, add panel
[04:29] <michael1> mefisto__: It says there are no new releases. I was in the process of upgrading to 8.10 when my disk filled up while installing the downloaded packages. Should that be filed as a bug report, by the way?
[04:29] <Peeps> How do I move it to the bottom?
[04:30] <mefisto__> michael1: are your repos in sources.list intrepid now, or still hardy?
[04:33] <mefisto__> Peeps: in kde 4.2, you can click that cashew-shaped button on the panel, and there is a "screen edge" control handle that you can drag. don't know how pre-4.2 does it
[04:34] <mefisto__> michael1: also, is your disk still full?
[04:34] <michael1> No, I've cleared some off now, and also aptitude installed the rest of what was waiting to be installed.
[04:35] <mefisto__> michael1: what does  lsb_release -a  say?
[04:35] <michael1> Repos are intrepid now, but the backports wasn't not automatically changed...I had to do that myself...it was commented out, though.
[04:36] <michael1> No LSB modules are available.
[04:36] <michael1> Distributor ID: Ubuntu|Description:     Ubuntu 8.10|Release:    8.10|Codename:  intrepid
[04:46] <jimmy51_home> hello, in kubuntu 8.10 can i set up the windows button to open the launch menu?
[04:47] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: there's no easy way to do that, as far as I know at least
[04:47] <jimmy51_home> mefisto__: aww
[04:48] <jimmy51_home> is that something that kde 4.2 would support?
[04:48] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: I assume you mean the windows key on the keyboard
[04:48] <jimmy51_home> mefisto__: yeah... i'm not sure what it's called but on my kybd it has the window logo on it and no text
[04:48] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: you can do winkey+some other key
[04:48] <jimmy51_home> mefisto__: where do i configure that?
[04:48] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: I think the default is alt+F1
[04:50] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: systemsettings > keyboard & mouse > global keyboard shortcuts
[04:50] <jimmy51_home> hmmm
[04:50] <jimmy51_home> i've tried to set a few in there and they never seem to work
[04:50] <jimmy51_home> it looks like it sets ok, but the keys never trigger anything
[04:50] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: do you have kde 4 ?
[04:50] <jimmy51_home> yeah
[04:50] <jimmy51_home> whatever shipped with 8.10
[04:51] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: do you see a dropdown menu KDE component above the shortcuts?
[04:51] <jimmy51_home> yeah
[04:52] <jimmy51_home> i selected Plasma Workspace, and then Application Launcher
[04:52] <jimmy51_home> i then selected custom
[04:53] <jimmy51_home> and tried a few combos..... ALT+~, Meta+~
[04:53] <jimmy51_home> didn't work
[04:53] <jimmy51_home> but i should point out that ALT+F1 didnt' work either
[04:56] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: what about right-click kmenu. do you have "application launcher settings" ?
[04:56] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: kickoff menu, I should say
[04:56] <jimmy51_home> yeah
[04:56] <jimmy51_home> i have it set on classic
[04:57] <mefisto__> jimmy51_home: can you set the keyboard shortcut there?
[04:57] <jimmy51_home> no, just the view and format
[04:59] <jimmy51_home> oh well, i guess i'll just see if it works in 9.04 in april :)
[04:59] <jimmy51_home> thanks for trying!
[05:00] <jimmy51_home> time for bed here.  have a good one
[05:04] <Maxexcloo> Hey
[05:04] <Maxexcloo> I need some help
[05:04] <Maxexcloo> Im running KDE 4.2 and Compiz
[05:05] <Maxexcloo> And when scrolling files in a directory or using the terminla
[05:05] <Maxexcloo> It lags and text overlaps other text
[05:05] <Maxexcloo> I have searched alot but cfant seem to find an answer
[05:05] <Maxexcloo> Any help is greatly appreciated
[05:10] <dutler> how long it take you to drive to salt lake?
[05:11] <dutler> sorry, wrong chat window
[05:14] <tbenst> Hi
[05:14] <tbenst> I need some help with "apt-get update"
[05:16] <tbenst> on every line i'm getting an error like:
[05:16] <tbenst> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:16] <tbenst> any thoughts?
[05:16] <dutler> tbenst: dns?? can you ping the server?
[05:17] <tbenst> one sec
[05:18] <tbenst> I can ping from ubuntu@ubuntu but not root@ubuntu
[05:18] <tbenst> i'm running the live cd right now
[05:19] <tbenst> already installed kubuntu, and i'm trying to install grub right now
[05:19] <mefisto__> tbenst: grub should be installed
[05:20] <dutler> you can resolve "us.archive.ubuntu.com" verified via ping from the user ubuntu but not root?
[05:20] <tbenst> i had to uncheck it from the ubiquity install as i'm running a "fakeraid"
[05:20] <tbenst> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[05:20] <tbenst> the installer always crashed when trying to install grub
[05:20] <dutler> you need to install lilo then right? grub doesnt boot softriad?
[05:22] <tbenst> you could be right
[05:22] <tbenst> anyhow, so currently i'm trying to install dmraid to my hd installation
[05:23] <tbenst> so i mounted the proper partition of my raid into the live cd
[05:23] <tbenst> *in the
[05:24] <tbenst> and changed the root
[05:24] <tbenst> and that's where i'm having the access problems with apt-get
[05:24] <tbenst> i need dmraid before i put a bootloader on
[05:25] <dutler> gesh... sounds like a much harder way to install ...... :)  my pass troubles the same error was dns related. my pile actiontec router gets hung up and restarting it or manual setting dns in the kubuntu box fixed the isseu
[05:26] <mefisto__> tbenst: you could try downloading grub (and dependencies) from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/grub
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> hey mefisto__
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> hard at it :)
[05:28] <dutler> mefisto__ grub does softraid ? am i on crack or did older version not support softraid?
[05:28] <Paddy_EIRE> I solved that PSisomethings problem and he is gone :(
[05:29] <mefisto__> dutler: don't really know much about it, but that fakeraid page tbenst is following says to install it
[05:29] <dutler> ok... need to make sure im not full of it :) thanks
[05:30] <Paddy_EIRE> mefisto__: did he give you his email or contact details?
[05:31] <tbenst> tbenst@gmail.com
[05:31] <stefan> bin ich jetzt drin ?
[05:31] <mr-t---> !de
[05:31] <Paddy_EIRE> tbenst: what are you passing out your gmail addy tbenst
[05:32] <stefan> hello
[05:32] <mefisto__> Paddy_EIRE: not sure who you mean
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> hey stefan
[05:32] <stefan> geil ich bin drin
[05:32] <khalidmian> does ktorrent 3.2 come in a deb file ? if nt can one install it via sudo reason for asking this is my inability to install tar files
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> mefisto__: that PSi guy who wanted gestures to work in FF
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> I have a solutuion
[05:32] <stefan> ich hab mir grad xubuntu zerschossen
[05:32] <mefisto__> Paddy_EIRE: oh. no he didn't. what's the solution, out of curiosity?
[05:33] <mefisto__> Paddy_EIRE: he found turning off compositing cured it, but didn't get any further
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> mefisto__: it works fine with no effects... there is only a limited number of effect plugins that would interfere with it you see
[05:33] <Paddy_EIRE> so its elimination
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> I dont know what the FF gestures where that were interfering though
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> so I cant finalise it
[05:34] <mefisto__> Paddy_EIRE: well I suggested he turn off all effects, then enable them one by one to find which is the prob. but with ALL effects off but compositing on, still no mouse gestures
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> mefisto__: no no no
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Its only one of em that contain that shortcut
[05:35] <gords> hi! i just installed kde on ubuntu8 hardy 2.6.24. how will i enable audio support? when i use headset
[05:35] <Paddy_EIRE> change the shortcut and YAAAy all effects and gestures will work
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> its simple really
[05:36] <mefisto__> Paddy_EIRE: but he had them all off. still wouldn't work
[05:36] <gords> hi! i just installed kde on ubuntu8 hardy 2.6.24. how will i enable audio support? when i use headset it doesn't have a sound. i'm sure its working since i tested it a while ago. any ideas please?
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> that is because there  are still key bindings in "effects" in general also
[05:37] <Paddy_EIRE> so that would have been even easier
[05:37] <dtchen> gords: configure the sound service to use your headset as the default audio device
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> gah.. I will get him someother day.. most likely.. and hey nice meeting you mefisto__
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[05:38] <mefisto__> Paddy_EIRE: ok, and you too. good work finding the solution :)
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> sure thing :)
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> I would have found it sooner but I was watching the omen 3
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> :/
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> hehe
[05:41] <gords> dtchen, where should i do that? i just started using kubuntu
[05:41] <mefisto__> gords: the asoundconf command might help you switching default cards, etc
[05:43] <dtchen> gords: what mefisto__ typed, or use the Multimedia menu in System Settings, ..
[05:44] <khalidmian> would does this mean ? cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`..
[05:45] <gords> dtchen, mefisto, thanks
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: hang on a sec I have a solution for you
[05:47] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: ahh....
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: just a moment till I get my head straight
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[05:47] <mefisto__> PSiL0: we were on the right track, but wrong assumptions :)
[05:47] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, but kwin hung when I tried to debug it with gbd
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> no need for that
[05:48] <Paddy_EIRE> this is actually something simple although I need to boot the lappy for that
[05:48] <Paddy_EIRE> and its 05:48 here D:
[05:49] <Paddy_EIRE> wanna resume tomorrow.. you could send me an email to let me know when you might be on
[05:49] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: ahhhh
[05:50] <PSiL0> PSiL0: I'll be on at around 9am PST
[05:50] <Paddy_EIRE> ok.. I will look out for you pal :)
[05:50] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: thanks, man... take it easy... till then.
[05:50] <PSiL0> :)
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> PSiL0: for all I know I may only get an hour sleep
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> hehe
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> later
[05:56] <serjofpower> so, this is going to sound retarded,
[05:56] <serjofpower> but does anybody speak in this chat room?
[05:56] <dutler> sure and sure :D
[05:56] <serjofpower> lol
[05:57] <dutler> this is actually one of the most helpfull channles ive been on
[05:57] <serjofpower> how can I find other rooms with other topics?
[05:57] <dutler> good look on #centos if you need help on one of the asterisk/freepbx distros
[05:58] <mefisto__> serjofpower: other help topics? or just any channels?
[05:58] <dutler> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[05:59] <serjofpower> nice
[05:59] <serjofpower> thanks dutler
[06:02] <dutler> speaking of this bieng one of the must helpfull channels ive experianced, i have this odd issue with konqueror 4.2. When i browse folders, it always opens a new windows. ive dug around in the settings... no resolve
[06:04] <serjofpower> hmmm
[06:04] <serjofpower> try holding "shift" or "Control" when you do it
[06:04] <serjofpower> or maybe Alt
[06:04] <serjofpower> you do something similar in nautilus to keep it from opening new window
[06:04] <serjofpower> windows*
[06:06] <mefisto__> dutler: konqueror? dolphin?
[06:06] <dutler> it used not not do this... ive bene on kunbutu since 7.10 and always a kde fan... had kde 4.2 for a few weeks and it just started a few days agp
[06:06] <dutler> konqueror
[06:07] <serjofpower> hmmm, I'm honestly not sure with that
[06:07] <serjofpower> so, I've got a question,
[06:07] <serjofpower> I'm at searchirc.com,
[06:07] <serjofpower> and it gives the list of differnet topics
[06:07] <serjofpower> and names such as #Windows
[06:07] <serjofpower> with "EFnet" next to it
[06:07] <serjofpower> how do i find out the server address to connect to?
[06:08] <dutler> just join the channel name... such as #kubuntu
[06:08] <mefisto__> dutler: in konqueror's settings, File Management, you can turn off "open folders in separate windows"
[06:08] <dutler> oh its off...
[06:09] <mefisto__> dutler: and in General, turn on "open links in new tab instead of new window" maybe?
[06:09] <dutler> yep, have that selected as well
[06:10] <mefisto__> dutler: ok, try file management, file associations
[06:10] <dutler> links out side konqueror get opened in a new tab, but opening links in konquer while file browsing get new window.. ok will chekc that out
[06:10] <mefisto__> dutler: in inode, show file in embedded viewer
[06:11] <dutler> what about the config file the "konqueror's settings, File Management, you can turn off "open folders in separate windows"
[06:11] <dutler> ?
[06:12] <mefisto__> dutler: have you just recently turned that off? maybe konqueror needs a restart?
[06:12] <designs703> Hi everyone. Where do I go to set keyboard shortcuts in KDE4?
[06:12] <designs703> nevermind, found it
[06:12] <designs703> Couldn't find system settings, but F2 did.
[06:12] <dutler> inode settingis correct... embeded. i have had a systems restart since experianceing this
[06:13] <mefisto__> dutler: doesn't happen here on 4.2
[06:13] <mefisto__> dutler: and it sounds like your settings are like mine
[06:14] <dutler> ya... and it use to work normal... but a few days ago.... i dont know what i did but something got jacked
[06:14] <dutler> oh well. thanks for trying.
[06:15] <mefisto__> dutler: just curious, does middle-click on a folder open it in a new tab?
[06:15] <dutler> no, but i can right click and select new tab
[06:18] <dutler> anyone get webkit to work inplace of khtml with konqueror?
[06:20] <mefisto__> dutler: interestingly, I can't get konqueror to open folders in separate windows with that setting in file management
[06:21] <dutler> mefisto__ ill trade ya :) id like to verify that the settings shown int he gui are actaully geting set. im looking for the proper config file now
[06:23] <mefisto__> dutler: .kde/share/config/konquerorrc
[06:24] <mefisto__> dutler: under [FMSettings] I have AlwaysNewWin=false
[06:24] <dutler> umm ;( AlwaysNewWin=false
[06:24] <dutler> ya me too
[06:25] <mefisto__> dutler: the gui changes it, but has no effect
[06:30] <glencarbonil> grub question. Installed xp on drive one and then ubuntu 8 on drive 2. If i pull out drive 2 now can not boot. How can I put grub on xp drive?
[06:33] <dutler> you can select the harddrive with the installer.....
[06:33] <agm> I just installed Xonard DX sound card but the volume is very low even if its 92% in kmix and alsamix
[06:34] <glencarbonil> so reinstall?
[06:34] <agm> voice cracks if i take it to more than 92%
[06:34] <agm> can any one help?
[06:34] <dutler> i think you can just install grub
[06:35] <glencarbonil> how
[06:36] <dutler> frist few google resulats look good
[06:36] <dutler> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[06:36] <dutler> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[06:39] <glencarbonil> that was a great idea dutler now i am in grub in terminal
[07:01] <gords> hi! i'm using ubuntu8 hardy 2.4.24.  when i install/build gspca driver i gat this error:  FATAL you need to install the Kernel Source for your running kernel.
[07:01] <gords> any idea please?
[07:04] <dutler> try the #ubuntu channel if its not a kubuntu issue? you can search the ubuntu site for intall kerenl source or you can search with your packagemanager
[07:05] <gords> dutler, thanks
[07:05] <mefisto__> gords: try sudo apt-get install linux-source
[07:11] <Name141> Hello, I am having a problem with 8.10 not getting an IP# from the router.  It makes the router light twinkle like there is hi activity, however it never gets an IP# and connects to the network.  Is there anyway to fix that ?
[07:11] <Name141> high*
[07:12] <dutler> ru configured for dhcp?
[07:12] <Name141> this doesn't happen in 8.04
[07:12] <Name141> I guess? I even tried to manually give it a manual IP#
[07:13] <dutler> what does /etc/network show you? is your interface shown?
[07:14] <Name141> dutler:  I don't know, I ran it live.
[07:14] <Name141> dutler: does the same thing installed
[07:14] <dutler> open your terminal and type ifconfig
[07:15] <Name141> er uh..
[07:15] <Name141> Obviously I'm not on it.  However, I guess I can install it virtually as it does the same thing
[07:16] <dutler> ya... your problem is not typical (i think) so you should prob have the system available to troubleshoot
[07:17] <Name141> Well, I installed Hardy with no issues.  However, I got a new external hard drive that makes hardy lock up.
[07:17] <Name141> (For other reasons unknown to me)
[07:18] <Name141> Yet 8.10 picks it up fine installed and live with no issues.
[07:18] <Name141> But the NIC twinkles around and doesn't connect
[07:19] <Name141> With hardy I also had to make it "--acpi=off"  to boot
[07:19] <dutler> i dont want to sound like some "elite jerk" but not twinkels around doesnt tell us anything... thats why i was asking for your ifconfig output.
[07:19] <Name141> So if this doesn't work, I'm banking on the next release (Less they brake something there too)
[07:19] <Name141> OK.
[07:20] <Name141> The router light flashes while the connection box just twirles around in arrows.  Never connecting to the network and getting an internal IP #
[07:20] <dutler> twinkle makes me think that you may have a physical connection...
[07:20] <Name141> All the computers and modem are hardwired.
[07:21] <dutler> that sounds like its tring to get a ip adress from your dhcp server but its not happening....  and you KNOW the dhcp wroks right...
[07:21] <dutler> can you open the termincal and type ifconfig?
[07:21] <Name141> I'm waiting on virutalbox to download and see.
[07:22] <Name141> Since the problem also happens virtually.
[07:22] <dutler> oh ic, sorry ...
[07:22] <Name141> (and I should have listened to it)
[07:22] <Name141> (instead of taking the time and installing it)
[07:23] <dutler> here is is an older howto, but all the tools are still used
[07:23] <dutler> im off on a soda run, bb in 20min
[07:23] <Name141> Root beer?
[07:24] <Name141> BTW: also happens in Wubi, etc
[07:26] <dutler> b4 i go, if this happens in a virtual machine, i think it may be your dhcp server. tell us about your network set up
[07:27] <dutler> you at home with a dsl modem type setup?
[07:27] <Name141> No, Sat
[07:27] <Name141> The HN7000S is connected to one of the LAN ports (like a switch I guess)
[07:27] <Name141> along with the other computers.
[07:27] <dutler> many computers?
[07:28] <Name141> 3
[07:28] <Name141> 1 is the sat modem , of course.
[07:28] <Name141> It's only a 4 port switch
[07:28] <dutler> ok. an your on the network right now? what is your os?
[07:28] <Name141> XP
[07:29] <dutler> start -> run -> cmd.exe
[07:29] <Name141> OK it's up
[07:29] <dutler> then in the console type "ipconfig renew"
[07:30] <Name141> Error: unrecongnized or incomplete command line.
[07:30] <dutler> i thing...it been awhile since i was on windows.. may be ipconfig /renew all
[07:30] <Name141> oh
[07:30] <Name141> it's /renew
[07:30] <Name141> OK, what do you want me to look for there?
[07:30] <Name141> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.5
[07:31] <Name141> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
[07:31] <Name141> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
[07:31] <dutler> i just want to make sure your working computer can recive an ip address via dhcp
[07:32] <dutler> when you get virtualbox set up and kubunut iso, poke around and learn how to do a md5 verificaiton of the iso data integraty
[07:32] <dutler> do this before you install
[07:33] <Name141> They come from the shipit
[07:33] <dutler> ok never mind
[07:34] <Name141> er
[07:34] <markus_> Hi. Can I install a .sh file on kubuntu? thanks
[07:34] <Name141> But yeah, Kubuntu/Ubuntu came from Shipit
[07:35] <markus_> how do I install a .sh file on kubuntu?
[07:35] <mefisto__> markus_: you run a .sh file, which may install something, or may do something else
[07:36] <mefisto__> markus_: anyway, cd to the directory where the .sh file is
[07:36] <mefisto__> markus_: then do this: ./name-of-file.sh
[07:37] <figol> hi all
[07:37] <markus_> mefisto, thanks. will do this
[07:38] <mefisto__> markus_: if that doesn't work, you may need to set it as executable: chmod +x name-of-file.sh
[07:44] <Name141> dutler: It didn't screw up inside of virutal box.  I'll try a Wubi install to see what happens
[07:46] <dutler> name141 ok im back. if it doesnt work, use http://pastebin.com/ to give us a short link of your lspci output
[07:48] <mefisto__> Name141: in vbox, it will use whatever is working in XP, so it's no test at all really
[07:49] <dutler> name141: exactly, thats what it tripped me out when you said youhad the same problems in vb
[08:25] <Ghawkes> hi gaiz ... this is where I bother you with all my annoying questions? ;)
[08:29] <mefisto__> go ahead
[08:33] <Ghawkes> ok, so I was wondering if there is a way to put my korganizer to-do entries on desktop
[08:34] <Ghawkes> like plasmoid or something so I have it in sight all the time
[08:35] <Ghawkes> I searched briefly but it's too general, google gives just unrelated results ...
[08:45] <mefisto__> Ghawkes: it's a good idea. there's a plasmoid called "remember the milk" which can use google calendar and similar services, so I imagine korganizer data would work too. may be something to look into
[08:45] <Ghawkes> thanks, I'm going to research it a little
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[08:47] <mefisto__> Ghawkes: I'm doing it too :)
[09:00] <Ghawkes> mefisto__: It seems that plasmoid is still in developement ...
[09:01] <Ghawkes> Also, the RTM service is online ... if I want to use it also for work I'm not confortable with the idea that all my schedule is in somebodys hands
[09:01] <mefisto__> Ghawkes: I can't get RTM to read tasks/events created in korganizer either. Only RTM events to korganizer, not the other way around
[09:03] <Ghawkes> mefisto__: yeah, it seems it's designed only to display tasks from RTM
[09:04] <mefisto__> Ghawkes: it's selfish :) it only shares one way
[09:04] <andy__> mahlzeit
[09:05] <Ghawkes> mefisto__: It seems there are many tools to export from RTM ... it's selfish yeah, that would be because it's proprietary :)
[09:07] <Ghawkes> isn't there some open-source app/server for time management which I could put on my server and use?
[09:07] <aedl> hola a todoso
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> !find ntpd
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Ghawkes: see above
[09:09] <Suiko> question ! is the new kde4.2 already released for kubu?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> kubi?
[09:10] <Suiko> kubuntu....
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[09:12] <Ghawkes> hm, I meant personal time management like events, to-do lists, calendars and so on
[09:15] <Suiko> i hope, that's more stable then 4.1
[09:15] <Suiko> konqueror crashes every hour
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: try it
[09:20] <Ghawkes> This is what I was looking for http://www.opensync.org/ but it still seems to be in developement and probably hard to use
[09:25] <Ghawkes> also, is there a 'official'/good howto to speed up kubuntu? I found few of tutorials like that but many are outdated and when I did what it says it didn't really helped :)
[09:27] <OxDeadC0de> there's one way that will work 100% for sure.. but you really won't like it.
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Ghawkes: i know of ways to speed up firefox but if you websearch stuff you can find some nice guides
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: ooh im all curious, is it uninstall x server :)
[09:27] <OxDeadC0de> lol nope, i was ganna suggest "buy a new computer" :P
[09:27] <OxDeadC0de> but that one's good too
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Ghawkes: if you fancy a chuckle you could play with hdparm to get more horespower from your slow hard drive
[09:29] <Ghawkes> ActionParsnip: yeah, that's probably the only thing I haven't tried yet
[09:29] <OxDeadC0de> ncurses - xorg = ftw
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Ghawkes: you can reduce the number of ttys
[09:30] <OxDeadC0de> Ghawkes: You can also sort through lsmod to unload unneeded kernel modules, and disable unneeded system services (All at your own risk)
[09:31] <Ghawkes> ActionParsnip: that I saw only outdated tutorials using inittab which is not present in new kubuntu installations
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> Ghawkes: theres also a quirk with the hosts file
[09:32] <Suiko> i think i will go back to good ol' gentoo
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: ubuntu isnt for everyone (gentoo rocks)
[09:32] <Ghawkes> I'm using gentoo at home but the compilation times drive me crazy :)
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Ghawkes: do it while you sleep if you can
[09:33] <Suiko> nah, emerge of 2 days \m/
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> yikes, i thought mine was bad when i setup my router
[09:33] <Ghawkes> ActionParsnip: I would have to sleep 16 hours a day :)
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Ghawkes: emerge fluxbox...go on holiday ;)
[09:35] <Paddy_EIRE> gah I fullscreened a kde app how do I get to the advanced options panel again
[09:35] <Paddy_EIRE> menu rather
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_EIRE: can you not alt+drag it?
[09:36] <Paddy_EIRE> ActionParsnip: naa.. it requires the keyboard shortcut
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_EIRE: are you running compiz?
[09:36] <Paddy_EIRE> no..
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> bah
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> super + d maybe
[09:36] <Suiko> compiz is gay
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: im sure compiz doesnt have a sexuality
[09:37] <Suiko> XD
[09:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ActionParsnip: right click any kde window title bar go to advanced and fullscreen
[09:37] <Paddy_EIRE> tell me what the combo is again
[09:37] <Paddy_EIRE> I normally never forget.. but you know all those chemicals take there toll
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> im at work atm with no access to a *nix machine, maybe someone else can help
[09:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Would someone else mind trying what I said
[09:39] <mefisto__> alt+F3
[09:39] <Paddy_EIRE> gah
[09:39] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[09:39] <Suiko> gna, not even emulation works on this damn kubuntu
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: for what system?
[09:39] <Suiko> 4.1
[09:39] <Paddy_EIRE> mefisto__: cheers buddy
[09:40] <OxDeadC0de> Suiko sucks you had a bad experience, everything works for me.. I have a working dosbox, 4 working n64 emulators, virtual machines, even wine even though wine is not an emulator, it all works
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: no, what system are you trying to emulate? SNES, Megadrive, Archimedes?
[09:40] <Suiko> commodore c64
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: nice choice
[09:41] <Suiko> what else?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: apt-cache search vice
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764749
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !info vice
[09:42] <OxDeadC0de> any one know a way to get rid of liquor shakes besides "drink more now" and "quit drinking and wait"?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: KEBAB!!
[09:42] <OxDeadC0de> what's kebab?
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> O.o
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> only the best food ever for after a heavy night on the razz
[09:43] <mefisto__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> this implies there is at least one location in the world where the locals haven't heard of kebabs
[09:43] <OxDeadC0de> ahh , meat on a stick, love shishkebabs
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> we must begin an international effort to educate them
[09:43] <SlimeyPete> no, meat in a pitta, usually
[09:43] <OxDeadC0de> ahh
[09:44] <mefisto__> I'm astonished. where are you OxDeadC0de ?
[09:44] <SlimeyPete> at least that's how it's served around here
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: http://pondculture.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/1057919169_f57c98e7461.jpg
[09:44] <OxDeadC0de> colorado.. I'm very sheltered :P
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> meat + pita + salad + chilli sauce + mayo
[09:44] <OxDeadC0de> oh god, I'm eating a 69 cent pot pie don't show me food that looks like real food
[09:44] <OxDeadC0de> ganna make me cry cause I want it so bad :P
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> you are now a man
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> :D
[09:45] <tony403> does anyone have a problem with linux and cpu usage?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> tony403: is xorg chewing your cpu?
[09:45] <OxDeadC0de> yay, the hair on my groin no longer is the only thing determining whether I'm a man or not! yay! haha
[09:46] <tony403> for the past 5 years or so, seems like every time i try it, it uses more than windows
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: thing is, if you see one sober, it makes you wanna chuck cos they are grim, when you are sloshed they are the best thing ever
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> tony403: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:46] <OxDeadC0de> good thing I'm never sober eh =)
[09:47] <OxDeadC0de> tony403: Bigger things will take more cpu, if you want something that will use a lot less cpu try a much lighter DE (maybe xubuntu)?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> tony403: what cpu and how much ram do you have?
[09:49] <Suiko> has someone got some experience with XEN?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !xen
[09:53] <Suiko> nice bot
[09:54] <mefisto__> ok, is there any way to use the "internal extender container" plasmoid? what is it in the widgets list for?
[09:56] <ricky1966> ciao a tutti
[09:56] <ricky1966> avevo un pc on un vecchio pentium, ora la MB è morta e ostituirò il tutto con un amd64
[09:57] <ricky1966> a questo punto devo reinstallare tutto il sistema o c'è una maniera per sistemare le cose senza dover reinstallare tutto ?
[09:58] <mefisto__> !it | ricky1966
[09:59] <ricky1966> ops
[09:59] <OxDeadC0de> does anyone else miss the days when you could open up winamp (in wine :|) and watch red-dwarf from season 1 episode 1 to the final episode back to back?
[09:59] <Guest81858> "This is not a desktop install CD and thus cannot be used by this application." I am getting this message  when i use the iso with usb-imagecreator? which one i have to use for this??
[10:06] <Suiko> red dwarf?
[10:06] <Suiko> i just know about good ol
[10:06] <Suiko> Smurfs
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> good show is red dwarf
[10:18] <Tm_T> !ot
[10:18] <Tm_T> (;
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> wooooo just got torrentflux running. BAM!
[10:31] <kaddi> moinmoin :)
[10:35] <ForeverSmurf> My desktop system regularly hangs at the moment for a few seconds and then it becomes responsive again. I am looking for some clever suggestions in how to identify the problem
[10:36] <ForeverSmurf> E.g: how do I know if it is X and not the kernel, etc....
[10:42] <tony403> rollback your drivers
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: check your ram and hard drives for errors
[10:52] <ForeverSmurf> ActionParsnip, ok. I check my ram with that BIOS function right?
[10:52] <ForeverSmurf> but how do I sheck my hard drivers?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: nope, its part of grub
[10:52] <ForeverSmurf> ok
[10:53] <ForeverSmurf> can I check my hard drives with grub too?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> ForeverSmurf: you can check them at recovery mode root prompt or use the check disk option in recovery mode menu, i use root so I can specify fsck options, you will also have to umount the partitions before checking
[10:54] <ForeverSmurf> ok, thanks. I notice their is also a new driver version for my graphics card available so I will try that too
[10:58] <Suiko> man
[10:59] <Suiko> is there a way to roll back to 3.5 kde?
[11:00] <Suiko> this new version is slow......pretty slow on my computer
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: you have to uninstall the one you have now then reinstall 3.5, I'd suggest installing another DE to use or you'll be doing it all in root console. I'd suggest fluxbox
[11:22] <Suiko> hardcore terminal, what else!
[11:23] <Suiko> i prefer the terminal, its faster and easier to handle
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: got yakuake?
[11:24] <Suiko> y
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: its a handy quake style frontend to konsole
[11:25] <Suiko> i know, i use it ^^
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: you can bring it up/down with a hokey / combo
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: i took y == 'why'
[11:25] <Suiko> ^^
[11:25] <Suiko> y == yes
[11:26] <fosco_> Suiko: if you want to install kde3.5 from repos you'll need an ubuntu version 8.04 or earlier, in intrepid and jaunty default is kde4.x
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: or compile source
[11:28] <Suiko> damn
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> weeee
[12:00] <jarco> Hello. What website editor is written for kde? Quanta + or bluefish?
[12:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Quanta
[12:00] <jarco> ok thx
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> nvu
[12:00] <jarco> ohw ...
[12:01] <jarco> any recommondation?
[12:01] <jarco> php/learning and html/css writing
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> www.google.com www.ask.com kate nano
[12:02] <Paddy_EIRE> aint NVU now known as kompozer?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> i think its a fork
[12:02] <Paddy_EIRE> thought so
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> i websearched it, i dont use anything like that
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> vim+w3schools
[12:04] <jarco> hehe
[12:04] <jarco> well
[12:04] <jarco> i prefer some apllication with color code etc
[12:04] <jarco> i come from dreamweaver but got sick of windows (dont start about mac)
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> kate does
[12:05] <jarco> idd
[12:05] <jarco> i use kate atm
[12:05] <jarco> but
[12:05] <jarco> missing a lot of functionality
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> dreamweaver D:
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> noooesss
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> scream
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> jarco: use kate and w3schools and make _Proper_ websites
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[12:06] <jarco> no no no
[12:06] <jarco> kate is good for code mark up
[12:06] <jarco> but some functions are missing imho
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> and everything else
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> indeed kate has good highlights
[12:06] <jarco> clean code
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> jarco: you can do that yourself
[12:06] <jarco> i mean to clean up messy code
[12:06] <jarco> well yes
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> dont take the lazy and mostly bad option
[12:07] <jarco> u aint going to tell me that they develop huge programs like dw etc and not have any actual use for them ...
[12:07] <jarco> and no
[12:08] <jarco> ui dont use point n click enviroment
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> you wanna call yourself a web designer use a decent text editor and read w3schools
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> jarco: yeah dreamweaver is for the lazy generation that think they are sooo 1337
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> and its crates web garbage
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> *creates
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> I would fire a web designer that used such a thing
[12:09] <jarco> Paddy_EIRE, i am studying for web Developer (bah designing) and i study at w3schools also. I do not think I am leet or anything (at least not yet :) ), and am just looking for a good kde program with more functionality then kate ...
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> jarco: Quanta
[12:10] <jarco> :)
[12:10] <jarco> also
[12:11] <jarco> autocompletion rules :p
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> listen try quanta then see what it does not have other wise this is going to take all week :P
[12:11] <jarco> :)
[12:11] <jarco> installed it
[12:12] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> jee.. kompozer is looking pretty damn cool now
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> http://kompozer.net/screenshots.php
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_EIRE: but is it fast?
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> no idea
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> I must try it
[12:19] <Paddy_EIRE> hey.. I know the maintainer... give me a sec
[12:19] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> who cares about prettys if its dog slow
[12:25] <eamusic> hola
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> werd
[12:27] <mefisto__> slow and pretty... mmm
[12:33] <ct529> hi
[12:34] <ockonal> Hi
[12:35] <dutler> hi there
[12:40] <Ramblurr> how can i have KDE4 automount my external NTFS drive, when i get the "unclean shutdown" error
[12:41] <Ramblurr> it says to mount with the -o force flag, but i'd rather not have to mount the drive manually all the time
[12:44] <ct529> Ramblurr: what type of disk?
[12:44] <Ramblurr> USB harddrive
[12:45] <Ramblurr> w/ a ntfs partition
[12:45] <ct529> Ramblurr: when you plug it in it should appear in the device notifier
[12:45] <Ramblurr> exactly, and when you click on it to mount it
[12:45] <Ramblurr> it opens dolphin, and then flashes an error..
[12:46] <azeem_> hi
[12:47] <Dr_Willis64> one of these days they need to make some 'configure my ntfs stuff - wizzard'
[12:48] <ct529> Ramblurr: what is the error?
[12:49] <Ramblurr> ct529:  http://www.binaryelysium.com/images/Dolphin_mount_ntfs_error.png
[12:49] <ct529> when I click on show source in konqueror, it opens kwrite, but I would like it to open kate .... how do you change that?
[12:49] <ct529> Ramblurr: it looks like it is in use .... did you by any chance open and mount it withut realising?
[12:49] <Ramblurr> no
[12:50] <Dr_Willis64> or hibernated/suspended windows....
[12:50] <Ramblurr> it's because it was used on a friends windows computer, and he didn't eject it properly
[12:50] <Ramblurr> i've mounted ntfs with -o force before, with no problems
[12:50] <Dr_Willis64> You need to put it on a windows box and have windows 'check' it UNLESS you want to risk data loss
[12:50] <Ramblurr> but i want HAL/dolphin/dbus to do this for me
[12:50] <Dr_Willis64> You could use the force optiuon.. but thats a bad habbit to get into
[12:50] <Dr_Willis64> setting hal to use -o force . could be very bad.
[12:52] <ct529> Ramblurr: I would not set the force option .... I would try to solve the problem ....
[12:52] <ct529> Ramblurr: to avoid data loss
[12:53] <ct529> Ramblurr: plug it in .... instead of opening it, the device notified should allow you to eject it properly .... it may be that it cleans the locks .... try!
[12:54] <ct529> when I click on show source in konqueror, it opens kwrite, but I would like it to open kate .... how do you change that?
[12:56] <drayen> anyone use Virtual box with 8.10 + KDE4 ?
[12:56] <drayen> i just did an update via apt-get and now cant boot into KDE :S
[12:56] <ct529> drayen: yes I do
[12:56] <ct529> drayen: what is the error?
[12:57] <mefisto__> drayen: ouch. I'm getting an update for vbox right now
[12:57] <drayen> mefisto good luck !!!
[12:58] <drayen> ct529: well, when i was updating
[12:59] <drayen> the system hung, it said something about prepairing updates for Vboc
[12:59] <drayen> box
[12:59] <drayen> i rebooted, and it then dumped me into a command prompt, trying to startx tells me it cant find my NVidia module
[13:00] <mefisto__> drayen: tried installing it again? or dpkg --configure -a ?
[13:00] <drayen> to make matters worse, it seems networking it knackered too
[13:00] <ct529> drayen: try dpkg --configure -a as root!
[13:00] <drayen> kk
[13:00] <drayen> then what?
[13:01] <drayen> no output
[13:01] <ct529> drayen: what does it return?
[13:02] <mefisto__> drayen: do you have the virtualbox repo in sources?
[13:02] <drayen> mefisto__: yes
[13:02] <drayen> ct529: nothing, just starts a new command line, no output
[13:03] <mefisto__> drayen: try reinstalling virtualbox-2.1 (that's the update I just got)
[13:03] <drayen> was there a new kernel out today as well?
[13:03] <aaron_> anyone can help with this problem?
[13:03] <aaron_> SystemError: E:Type 'gpg' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.
[13:03] <ct529> drayen: can you apt-get update, as root, please?
[13:03] <ct529> drayen: what is your graphic card?
[13:03] <drayen> ct529: i cant, no networking
[13:03] <aaron_> thats the error i get
[13:04] <drayen> ct529: Nvidia erm, not sure on the spec off hand...
[13:04] <ct529> drayen: lspci as root please
[13:04] <drayen> 2 ticks, was trying an older kernel
[13:05] <mefisto__> drayen: my guess is something wrong with the vboxdrv module not installed/not loading properly
[13:05] <ct529> drayen: did you by any chance restart the system in a kernel without the nvidia module and network card module? it sounds a bit like it
[13:05] <Dr_Willis64> aaron_,  sounds like a typo on like 55
[13:05] <aaron_> ya i gotta edit the sources.list file but it wont let me save after removing it from line 55
[13:06] <Dr_Willis64> its a system file. thus you need to edit with root user permissions/privilages
[13:06] <drayen> ct529: could well be, but i've not compiled any kernels or anything like that, its all stock
[13:06] <drayen> i know better than to play with dragons ;)
[13:07] <aaron_> i dont know how to do that
[13:07] <Dr_Willis64> sudo editoryoulike /path/to/file
[13:07] <Dr_Willis64> !sudo
[13:07] <Dr_Willis64> how did you edit it in the first place?
[13:07] <aaron_> i just went to etc/apt
[13:08] <drayen> ct529: its a 8600 GS
[13:08] <Dr_Willis64> You did not edit that file as a user.. you had to use root some how...
[13:08] <mefisto__> drayen: try   sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox-2.1
[13:08] <salmonel> hi gys
[13:08] <ct529> mefisto__: he does not have network anymore
[13:08] <mefisto__> oh
[13:08] <salmonel> i installed kde  4.2 in my kubuntu and now i can get the xwindow  i can
[13:09] <salmonel> not log in in graphical mode
[13:09] <aaron_> how do u use sudo in konsole? ive tried sudo and such and nothing
[13:09] <salmonel> aaron_,  : sudo command
[13:09] <ct529> drayen: how many kernels do you have installed now?
[13:09] <salmonel> aaron_, : and it asks for your password
[13:09] <drayen> a few, 4 iirc, each with 2 options
[13:09] <aaron_> command not found
[13:09] <salmonel> aaron_, : your account must be in the sudoers group also to work
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[13:10] <Dr_Willis64> sudo THECOMMADYOUWANTTORUNASROOT
[13:10] <Dr_Willis64> not 'command'
[13:10] <drayen> ct529: just rebooting now, will let you know the versions
[13:10] <ct529> drayen: no!
[13:10] <ct529> drayen: no need ....
[13:11] <drayen> ct529: 2.6.27 (all) -11, -9, -7
[13:11] <aaron_> what command would i need to run in order to edit the sources.list file?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis64> sudo editoryoulike /path/to/file
[13:11] <salmonel> i installed 4.2 in my kubuntu and now i can't log in in graphical mode , how can i install the kde 4.1 back  ?
[13:11] <ct529> drayen: could you please pastebin the results of lsmod?
[13:11] <mefisto__> aaron_: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:11] <Dr_Willis64> where editoryouline can be 'nano' if you like nano
[13:12] <Dr_Willis64> i like vi, or geany
[13:12] <drayen> ct529: i cant, the machine with the problem is not currently connecting to the netwokr (i'm on a windows laptop atm)
[13:12] <salmonel> has anybody installed kde 4.2 in his kubuntu ?
[13:12] <drayen> ct529: going to try some of the older K's to see if they have the modules, so i can at least get networking back up
[13:12] <Dr_Willis64> salmonel,  yes.
[13:13] <drayen> ct529: the i will try dpgk --configure -a again and apt-get update
[13:13] <salmonel> i have installed from synaptic and now i can't log in in graphical mode
[13:13] <drayen> to see if that fixs things
[13:13] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : how can i go back were it worked back in 4.1 ?
[13:13] <mefisto__> drayen: you could try blacklisting the vbox module
[13:13] <Dr_Willis64> salmonel,  no idea. You dident ask me that. :) it works here.
[13:13] <ct529> drayen: yes, but you can still lsmod, and tell us which modules are loaded
[13:13] <drayen> onit
[13:13] <Dr_Willis64> I would say try a different window manager/desktop -= see if that works.. does KDM work?
[13:13] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : lucky you
[13:14] <salmonel> no kdm no working
[13:14] <salmonel> it fails
[13:14] <ct529> drayen: have you tried with restarting the other kernels, to see if at leats one of them works?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis64> sounds like the video drivers are some how messed up.  you could try 'startx' from a console and see if any errors show up
[13:15] <salmonel> startx e? hmmm ok
[13:15] <Dr_Willis64> startx
[13:15] <Dr_Willis64> no e :)
[13:15] <salmonel> i thought /etc/init.d restart was ok
[13:15] <salmonel> i haven't used startx since last year :-)
[13:15] <Dr_Willis64> /etc/init.d restart               sounds wrong to me...
[13:16] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : why ?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis64> /etc/init.d kdm restart         restarts kdm
[13:16] <Dr_Willis64> /etc/init.d SERVICENAME restart         restarts whateverservice
[13:16] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : yes of course i misspelled :-)
[13:16] <Dr_Willis64> Just 'restart'  is most likely wrong :_)
[13:16] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : sorry
[13:16] <Dr_Willis64> theres also the 'service' command that does the same thing.
[13:16] <Dr_Willis64> with less typing
[13:16] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : but that did'nt work either
[13:17] <Dr_Willis64>  service ssh restart
[13:17] <Dr_Willis64> 'dident work' tells us very little.. did you see any error messages? pastebin the output so the channel can see it...
[13:17] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : nice i did'nt new it thanks
[13:18] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : i will do my best to find the error messages because i can't login with my wifi from console (now i am in windows...)
[13:18] <drayen> ct52: http://pastebin.com/m307f3959
[13:18] <mefisto__> drayen: lsmod | grep vboxdrv          <--  does that show anything?
[13:19] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : do you now how can i conncect to my wifi saved connection from command line?
[13:19] <Dr_Willis64> theres some way to connect wireless with the console.. but i dont know what it is.
[13:19] <Dr_Willis64> I run wires. :)
[13:19] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : I wish you new :-)
[13:20] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : i suppose there must be a way
[13:20] <drayen> mefisto__: no
[13:20] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : to connect you machine to wireless
[13:20] <drayen> mefisto__: ct529: i'm not quite sure whats going on but "dpkg --configure -a" does nothing
[13:21] <drayen> and doesnt fix the problem "apt-get update" reports
[13:21] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : but the problem is that the kde app for wireless can't start without the xorg desktop
[13:22] <mefisto__> drayen: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/virtualbox-2*
[13:22] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64,  : so there must be another way but more comlicated to extract all the info from that  wi-fi app and then connect .......
[13:22] <Wind67> ...
[13:23] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : i am so angry i can't find the way to connect to wireless without the gui........
[13:23] <drayen> mefisto__: yup 3 files...
[13:24] <mefisto__> drayen: try reinstalling the latest vbox deb that you have there
[13:24] <Dr_Willis64> salmonel,  the wifi docs and trouble shooting guides may tell you  . its doable.. I just never have done it
[13:25] <drayen> mefisto__: cant, apt-get complains about "you must run 'dpkg...."
[13:25] <drayen> but when i do, nothing happens :S
[13:25] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64,  : I wil try to find them :-) where do you sugest to go ? what site ?
[13:26] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64,  : do you mean --->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[13:27] <Dr_Willis64> !wireless
[13:27] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64,  : ok i got it :-)
[13:27] <Dr_Willis64> or any of the other dozens guides out there that exist for wireelss..
[13:27] <Dr_Willis64> ive rarely messed with it  much.. eithe rit works.. or i run wires
[13:28] <salmonel> Dr_Willis64, : wish me good luck so :-) bye
[13:28] <mefisto__> drayen: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/virtualbox-2(the-rest-of-the-deb-filename).deb
[13:29] <khalidmian> looking to upgrade to ktorrent 3.2 wondering if it has a deb file or a sudo apt-get command
[13:31] <Dr_Willis64> !info ktorrent
[13:31] <Dr_Willis64> very likely neither. :)
[13:31] <Dr_Willis64> or go get the source.. or check the PPA repos..
[13:31] <Dr_Willis64> Not  sure what version is in the kde4.2 packages
[13:31] <JontheEchidna> Kubuntu 9.04 should be getting 3.2 fairly soon
[13:32] <khalidmian> apparently available in tar.bz2 file which i cant seem to comile cause i suck and dont know how to
[13:33] <Dr_Willis64> Time to learn ? :)
[13:34] <Dr_Willis64> do you really NEED the features in the lastest?
[13:34] <mefisto__> also, do you really NEED the bugs in the latest?
[13:35] <khalidmian> Dr_Willis64: no just having issues with ipfilters in ktorrent which i have read on but again not been able to implement
[13:36] <mefisto__> drayen: did you do the dpkg vbox install?
[13:39] <drayen> mefisto__: i cant
[13:40] <drayen> mefisto__: dpkg seems broken
[13:40] <drayen> mefisto__: i cant get ANY output from it (dpkg --help, dpkg, dpkg -V) all do nothing
[13:42] <mefisto__> drayen: whereis dpkg
[13:42] <mefisto__> drayen: does that find anything?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:42] <drayen> mefisto__: yes, severla places
[13:43] <drayen> mefisto__: /usr/bin/, /etc/, /usr/lib etc etc
[13:44] <mefisto__> drayen: sudo killall dpkg     ??
[13:44] <drayen> mefisto__: nope, its not running
[13:45] <mefisto__> drayen: you mean dpkg is not running? did it say "no process killed" or something?
[13:45] <drayen> mefisto__: yes, and i did "ps -A | grep dpkg"
[13:46] <bentob0x> how can I know when I installed the OS I'm running?
[13:46] <bentob0x> (Kubuntu 8.10)
[13:47] <bentob0x> the install date and time
[13:47] <JackWinter> is it easy to install kde 4.2 on 8.10 ?
[13:48] <mefisto__> drayen: don't know what to do about that. can apt do anything without dpkg working?
[13:48] <DreadKnight> JackWinter: yes... www.kde.org for instructions
[13:49] <JackWinter> DreadKnight: thanks, gonna go try that now :)
[13:52] <drayen> mefisto__: doesnt seem so... argggghhhhhh
[13:52] <mefisto__> drayen: sudo apt-get -f install   ?
[13:54] <drayen> mefisto__: nope
[13:57] <mefisto__> drayen: I suppose livecd to fix dpkg. but I'm not sure how to do that
[13:59] <hw> How can remove shortcut shift+ctrl+s from kopete when its not bind by kopete? =) Kopete comes up when I use this shortcut but I cannot find it in the shortcut list...
[13:59] <hw> Aah, there is a additional GLOBAL shortcut...
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[14:06] <iris> so I used kino to capture my video. but it created a whole bunch of avi files. I ijust want one big avi file
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> iris: you can cat them together but you will need an ffmpeg command to straighten the audio
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> iris: cp 1.avi+2.avi+3.avi output.avi
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> iris: mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -ss 186 -o output.avi final.avi
[14:10] <iris> ActionParsnip: can the kino export feature be used to combine them?
[14:10] <iris> the cp command would take forever, or a script, because there are just so many of them
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> iris: ive not used it so couldnt say. I'd imagine it can
[14:11] <iris> ohhh.. I found a "join" button :)
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> 'nice
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> wtg :D
[14:23] <Infecto> hello i have problem with networkmanager in kubuntu 4.2 and openvpn
[14:23] <Infecto> i cant connect manualy using autostart from init.d
[14:24] <Infecto> he try to dhcp the interface
[14:27] <dolo> anyone know how i can fix youtube sound and set vlc as my default media player
[14:29] <mneptok> dolo: Hardy or Intrepid?
[14:29] <dolo> hardy
[14:30] <mneptok> dolo: i'm not a huge KDE user, and i don't have a VM at home. but what you're after is killing PulseAudio, and using only ALSA.
[14:30] <dolo> they should put a link to how to fix youtube on the main page right next to downloads
[14:30] <mneptok> dolo: first, see if there's a system-wide media prefpane to set ALSA as the playback architecture.
[14:31] <mneptok> dolo: i assume by "fix YouTube" you mean "play audio from YT in addition to other audio events using the sound architecture"
[14:31] <mneptok> and not "i don't have the Flash plugin"
[14:31] <dolo> yes the sound is broken
[14:31] <mneptok> dolo: this is well-documented in many places.
[14:31] <gords> hi! i'm using ubuntu8 hardy 2.6.24. i'm trying to get my webcam working, but why does when i  ls -l /dev/video0 it gives me this error ls: cannot access /dev/video0: No such file or directory?
[14:32] <mneptok> gords: ls -la /dev/v*
[14:32] <mneptok> gords: you have no /video0 directory
[14:32] <dolo> thats great how do i fix it?
[14:32]  * mneptok heads to the office
[14:34] <BluesKaj> dolo, what browser are you using on youtube ?
[14:35] <dolo> mozilla
[14:35] <gords> mneptok, i dont have anything related to video device like video0. then how would i make webcam work with ubuntu? my webcam had this: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0ac8:303b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0303 WebCam
[14:36] <dolo> im completely uninstalling totem
[14:37] <shadeslayer> dolo: why,what happened
[14:37] <BluesKaj> dolo, Mozilla Firefox or just plain Mozilla?
[14:38] <dolo> mozilla firefox
[14:38] <dolo> the browser that comes with ubuntu
[14:38] <dolo> shadeslayer:  youtube doesnt work
[14:39] <BluesKaj> !flashplugin-nonfree | dolo
[14:39] <shadeslayer> ah,the flash plugin
[14:39] <dolo> shadeslayer: no sound with anything flash
[14:39] <BluesKaj> dolo, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:39] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:40] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | dolo
[14:40] <dolo> now open firefox and it should work or i log out n logg back in first?
[14:41] <dolo> so becuase people like youtube ubuntu cant make a working plugin for it?
[14:41] <dolo> im still not getting any sound either
[14:41] <dolo> do i need to reboot or something?
[14:42] <ct529> back
[14:42] <dolo> and i dont see why if so many people have this same issue they dont just make an update for it
[14:43] <ct529> dolo: issue?
[14:43] <ghostcube> dolo: flash 10 ?
[14:44] <dolo> ghostcube: what about flash 10
[14:44] <dolo> youtube has no sound
[14:44] <ghostcube> dolo: you installed flashplugin-nonfree ?
[14:44] <dolo> ya just now
[14:45] <dolo> do i need to reboot for that to work?
[14:45] <ghostcube> any other flash plugin installed before ?
[14:45] <dolo> ya adobe flash plugin for ubuntu
[14:45] <ghostcube> be sure to remove both now
[14:45] <ghostcube> and remove the configs
[14:45] <dolo> how do i do that?
[14:45] <ghostcube> reboot and install the flashplugin nonfree package
[14:46] <dolo> ok
[14:46] <ghostcube> dolo: just delete the macromedia folders inside home should work
[14:46] <ghostcube> but wait iam looking again
[14:46] <ghostcube> dolo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973637
[14:47] <ghostcube> maybe this would be woth a try
[14:48] <dolo> ok i removed the pulse and pulse audio
[14:49] <dolo> now what
[14:49] <ghostcube> hmm read a bit inside the thread there are more hints if not working
[14:49] <dolo> how do i unsinstall adobe 10
[14:49] <dolo> and this is for ibex not hardy
[14:50] <ghostcube> dolo: you are on hardy ?
[14:50] <dolo> ya
[14:50] <ghostcube> oh thats i havent known
[14:50] <keldrona> hi guys... got a prob with my samsung e215, can't send sms, can u help me plz?
[14:50] <ghostcube> dolo: no idea if this is to be solved in hardy
[14:50] <ghostcube> oO
[14:51] <keldrona> o_O
[14:52] <Dr_Willis64> 0_o
[14:53] <Dr_Willis64> 0_x  (ouch!)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> '^v^'
[14:57] <Wunderbar> how do i change desktop in kubuntu
[14:57] <Dr_Willis64> What do you mena by the term desktop?   From KDE to GOME?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis64> or switch virtualdestops?
[14:57] <Wunderbar> i mean whats the keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktop
[14:58] <Dr_Willis64> No idea I use the mouse wheel over the 'pager' normally
[15:00] <Wunderbar> i'm on a laptop :(
[15:00] <Dr_Willis64> so a  i. :)
[15:00] <BluesKaj> I use a mouse on our laptop, can't stand that fingerpad thingy
[15:01] <Dr_Willis64> check the kde control-panek thing.. or settings or whatevver theya re called now a days
[15:01] <pm2> Hi - I'm running Kubuntu Linux on some SPARC boxes.  I have about 20 sparcs (sunblade 150's) and I'd like to try to network boot them somehow.  All of the docs I'm finding online seem to make use of syslinux, which is x86 only.  Any advice on how to make a PXE boot image for a Sparc?
[15:02] <bled> hello
[15:02] <bled> I have just instalet kubuntu on my pc
[15:02] <bled> i am wondering how can  now play mp3 music now
[15:03] <Dr_Willis64> Install the proper extra packages.. 'kubuntu-resticted-extras' may grab the right ones you need bled
[15:03] <Dr_Willis64> !mp3
[15:03] <Alex135> !amarok
[15:03] <Dr_Willis64> Some times it depends on wha tplayer you are using
[15:04] <bled> I am updating now  i will wait to see what will  happen
[15:05] <Alex135> !mp3|bled
[15:05] <Alex135> !amarok|bled
[15:09] <Authority_> If my K Menu were to stop responding, is there another way to trigger a graceful logout?  CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't seem to be doing anything
[15:09] <Dr_Willis64> alt-ctrl-backspace, then alt-ctrl-delete.. OR alt-ctrl-f1 and login  and use 'reboot' command
[15:09] <Dr_Willis64> or just restart the X server. :)  ifyou just want to force  X to restart
[15:10] <Dr_Willis64> 'sudo service kdm restart'
[15:10] <Authority_> Yes, none of those are graceful logouts though
[15:10] <Dr_Willis64> if X is hung.. its hung.. theres no gracefull to it
[15:10] <shadeslayer_> hehe,they should add Ctrl+alt+delete for something
[15:10] <Dr_Willis64> you could try forceing  Kde to restart I guess
[15:10] <shadeslayer_> Dr_Willis64: lol
[15:11] <Dr_Willis64> alt0ctrl0delete does reboot the system from the console
[15:11] <Dr_Willis64> but not X.
[15:11] <shadeslayer_> ah
[15:11] <Dr_Willis64> alt-ctrl-backspace + alt-ctrl-delete   -> real fast.. -> reboot :)
[15:11] <Dr_Willis64> ya gotta hit alt-ctrl-del on the console screen befor kdm pops back up
[15:12] <shadeslayer> :)
[15:12] <AndySpain> hi!  when there's a link in irc and i click it it doesn't open konqueror or firefox but Thunderbird
[15:12] <AndySpain> how do i change that?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis64> http://www.google.com opens Thunderbird?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> AndySpain: your default browser seems to be have set to thunderbird
[15:13] <shadeslayer> bye
[15:13] <AndySpain> thx shadeslayer
[15:13] <shadeslayer> np
[15:14] <bled> whitch version of flash player to download for simpel installation and how to install flash player
[15:14] <bled> I am using kubuntu
[15:14] <bled> web browser name is konqueror
[15:15] <Dr_Willis64>  'kubuntu-resticted-extras' installs flash and other parts here
[15:15] <ghostcube> bled: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:15] <ghostcube> or what Dr_Willis64 said
[15:15] <Dr_Willis64> but i thogh i heard adobe broke flash again the other day.. try it and see i guess
[15:15] <AndySpain> shadeslayer: you were right, open http and https was set to "open with a program that's based on the contents" -  whatever that meant. I now set it to konqbrowser
[15:16] <Dr_Willis64> !cookie | shadeslayer
[15:16] <Dr_Willis64> :P
[15:23] <SiVA_> hey
[15:23] <luis_> goog morning 2 u all i have a problem, just did fresh installation of kubuntu intrepid on a laptop compaq v3000, but it wont detect the wireless card i know for a fact that it is a Boradcom B43 wireless driver, ive been looking around but cant find a way to get it working can somebody pls help me?????????''
[15:24] <SiVA_> how do I start a video chat in kopete? In the Preferences I can see my webcam is enabled, but when I right click on one of my msn contacts, I don't see any option for video
[15:26] <SiVA_> note: they are also using kopete
[15:28] <SiVA_> kino doesn't seem to work with my webcam tho
[15:29] <shadeslayer> new video drivers yayy
[15:30] <AndySpain> hi!  I just installed ekiga
[15:30] <AndySpain> the gtk-only version
[15:30] <AndySpain> it says it installed successfully
[15:31] <AndySpain> but i can't find it in the k menu internet
[15:31] <AndySpain> and 'ekiga' in terminal also does not work
[15:33] <keldrona> guys... just installed kubuntu 8.10.. where t.f. is the kppp appication?
[15:35] <jpedroza> keldrona: I am not sure it is installed by default, check in adept to make sure it is installed. It should be in /usr/bin/kppp
[15:36] <jpedroza> keldrona: I think you can set up ppp connections as well using knetworkmanager
[15:39] <|Krooks|> I installed KDE-4.2 as described by kubuntu's official guide. But during installation there was one error  plasma related. Now I'm in KDE-4.2, Its a little sluggish and plasma is using a lot of CPU. What do I do ?
[15:39] <Wunderbar> can't get smplayer audio to work- any idea why not? everything else works fine
[15:39] <|Krooks|> oh actually, there was two errors, another was kcontrol related, something about conflict with some files
[15:42] <shadeslayer> |Krooks|: how about checking if you dont have conflcting packages
[15:42] <shadeslayer> like the ones mentioned on the page
[15:42] <i3ooi3oo_> Why can I not change my networking setting?  I add a manual configuration and can not activate it
[15:42] <shadeslayer> !kde | |Krooks|
[15:44] <|Krooks|> ubottu: I'm already on Kubuntu and I upgraded to the latest version, then I upgraded to KDE-4.2
[15:44] <|Krooks|> shadeslayer:  I'm already on Kubuntu and I upgraded to the latest version, then I upgraded to KDE-4.2
[15:44] <shadeslayer> one sec
[15:44] <|Krooks|> Is there another add/remove tool besides adept.
[15:45] <shadeslayer> you can add synaptic
[15:45] <|Krooks|> I can't find plasma related packages using adept
[15:45] <shadeslayer> Remove the koffice-data-kde4 package if you have it installed. The current koffice2 packages in the kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA are incompatible with the KDE 4.2 packages since they try to install icons to the same locations.
[15:45] <|Krooks|> synaptics is better, yes ?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> that package
[15:45] <shadeslayer> Adept is broken
[15:46] <shadeslayer> so yes synaptic is better
[15:46] <|Krooks|> shadeslayer: I dont have koffice-data-kde4  installed
[15:46] <shadeslayer> |Krooks|: which processor
[15:46] <|Krooks|> AMD Barton
[15:47] <shadeslayer> Processing power too
[15:47] <|Krooks|> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2800+
[15:47] <|Krooks|> Nvidia
[15:47] <shadeslayer> :|
[15:47] <shadeslayer> in Ghz
[15:47] <|Krooks|> for graphics card
[15:48] <shadeslayer> |Krooks|: which nVidia card and drivers??
[15:48] <shadeslayer> no for the processors??
[15:48] <|Krooks|> 2079.517 Ghz
[15:48] <shadeslayer> ok i have a processor of similar power
[15:48] <shadeslayer> intel though
[15:49] <shadeslayer> what about the nVidia card??
[15:49] <|Krooks|> Nvidia GeForce FX 5200
[15:49] <shadeslayer> |Krooks|: which drivers??
[15:49] <|Krooks|> Hmm how do I check which driver X is using currently
[15:49] <shadeslayer> restricted ones from nVidia??
[15:50] <shadeslayer> K>application>X servers
[15:50] <|Krooks|> I do not think its using nvidia's as I just installed it.
[15:50] <shadeslayer> ah then you have to install the restricted packages
[15:51] <shadeslayer> K>apps>system>drivers
[15:51] <|Krooks|> I'm not using nvidia's version 173 yet but I have installed it
[15:51] <shadeslayer> !nVidia
[15:51] <shadeslayer> then use them :P
[15:52] <|Krooks|> its better, yes ?
[15:52] <shadeslayer> obviously yes
[15:53] <|Krooks|> shadeslayer: synaptic version 0.62 is correct ?
[15:53] <e-jat> can someone help me with this -> http://pastebin.com/m77e806a7
[15:53] <shadeslayer> no idea,i use the konsole lol
[15:54] <|Krooks|> shadeslayer: I'm really impressed with Kubuntu. Everything is 'clean' and crisp.
[15:54] <shadeslayer> yeah,one reason i chose it over Ubuntu
[15:54] <|Krooks|> Best Desktop experience on linux for far for me
[15:54] <shadeslayer> me too
[15:55] <jpedroza> e-jat: What are you trying to build?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> ;)a song i think '
[15:55] <|Krooks|> shadeslayer: do you use aptitude ?
[15:56] <shadeslayer> sometimes,not much
[15:56] <shadeslayer> i use konsole or synaptic a bit
[15:56] <silleme> Is there anyway to tell if my swp partition is being used by kubuntu?  didn't realize until recently that swp partition not properly mounted on instal "(was being seen as floppy) and just mounted last night...
[15:57] <raphink> silleme: type "free" and you will see how much swap you have
[15:58] <|Krooks|> shadeslayer: what do you mean when you say you use konsole ? I use konsole all the time too.
[15:58] <silleme> raphink:  "free" in what... konsole?
[15:58] <e-jat> jpedroza: kopete
[15:58] <|Krooks|> What is it that you use on konsole ?
[15:58] <raphink> silleme: yes
[15:58] <shadeslayer> like sudo apt-get update to update
[15:58] <tyler_d3> how do I save my custom toolbars? they keep getting reset when I restart?
[15:58] <e-jat> jpedroza: any idea
[15:58] <shadeslayer> like sudo apt-get install <program name>
[15:58] <jpedroza> e-jat: Is there any particular reason you are building from source instead of using the .deb packages?
[15:59] <keldrona> yeah guys... is it possible to configure my internet key Huawei E169 with kubuntu 8.10?
[15:59] <|Krooks|> shadeslayer: I notice synaptic is installing a lot of gnone stuffs. So its a gtk-based program. I'm not quite a fan on gnome
[15:59] <|Krooks|> or gtk
[15:59] <shadeslayer> me neither,but thats the only other alternative
[15:59] <bled> what is Adept in Kubuntu, I am trying to instal game but it is not simple
[16:00] <shadeslayer> bled: hehe,use a comand line if its hard
[16:00] <bled> hehe
[16:00] <jpedroza> keldrona: What is the output of dmesg when you insert the key?
[16:00] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install <program name>
[16:01] <jpedroza> keldrona: Does it show up? If so, you will need a driver. Not sure if there is a native one, so you might need to use ndiswrapper and use the Windows driver.
[16:01] <shadeslayer> |Krooks|: i have to go so if the problem is solved.........
[16:01] <e-jat> jpedroza: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163307
[16:01] <silleme> raphink: mmmm...k.thx.  does adding a swp file on a seperate physical drive from OS greatly benefit kubuntu performance as it does inwindoze?
[16:02] <e-jat> jpedroza: or is there any new .deb package build from the svn ?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> ok im going byeeee
[16:02] <raphink> silleme: not as much as upgrading your RAM if what you need is more working mem
[16:02] <keldrona> jpedroza. I have got a driver with me and the istruction to use it with fedora, but I can't connect
[16:02] <raphink> silleme: swap allows to use more memory when you lack RAM, but it's obviously slower than RAM
[16:02] <gohmifune> anyone having any problems with bash completion?
[16:03] <jpedroza> e-jat: I see. I hate to say it, but I am not sure what the error is. Have you considered using Pidgin? I use it with my Yahoo account and it works flawlessly. Might be a good work around until the bug is fixed and a new package is out.
[16:03] <|Krooks|> bye'
[16:03] <raphink> gohmifune: no
[16:03] <raphink> gohmifune: what's your issue?
[16:03] <jpedroza> keldrona: I use a Verizon broadband card, and I had to set  up the connection in knetworkmanager; username and password, etc. Not sure how that card compares to your card.
[16:04] <jpedroza> keldrona: Mine shows up as USBtty1 or something like that
[16:04] <gohmifune> inconsistent completion of file names directories and apt usage
[16:04] <raphink> gohmifune: do you have an example?
[16:04] <tyler_d3> how do I save my custom toolbars? they keep getting reset when I restart?
[16:04] <keldrona> jpedroza: I used wvdialconf, and it shows me something about ttyUSB0
[16:04] <tripack60> bonjour a tous
[16:05] <silleme> raphink: well... maxed out on ram...2g  :(  ... just wondering if performance benefit similar to that of windoze when using a sperate hd for swp as opposed to diff partition on same drive as OS (Kubuntu)
[16:05] <raphink> tyler_d: they shouldn't... are other settings getting reset, too?
[16:05] <raphink> tripack60: yop
[16:05] <e-jat> jpedroza: yeah .. previously while im in gnome .. i use pidgin .. but now .. im still using pidgin .. just wondering i can try to build it as i already in kubuntu :)
[16:05] <gohmifune> lets see, there is no completion for package names when installing by command line
[16:05] <gohmifune> directories don't get completed sometimes it seems
[16:05] <tripack60> yop a koi?
[16:05] <raphink> silleme: sure it should be better, if the separate HD is fast enough ;)
[16:05] <jpedroza> !fr tripack60
[16:06] <jpedroza> !fr
[16:06] <gohmifune> Its like it has quirks compared to usage in ubuntu with gnome
[16:06] <raphink> tripack60: ben tu dis bonjour, je dis yop, et sinon le chan est en anglais ici :)
[16:06] <tripack60> ok dsl
[16:06] <tripack60> *
[16:06] <gohmifune> I saw someone elese having similar problems when I searched this out in google.
[16:06] <raphink> gohmifune: do you have completion activated in your ~/.bashrc ?
[16:07] <gohmifune> don't know, let me check
[16:07] <raphink> there's 3 lines to uncomment there gohmifune
[16:08] <rcamilo_> hi there
[16:08] <raphink> gohmifune: run "grep bash_completion ~/.bashrc" ; if the lines you get are dashed (#), you have to uncomment them in the file
[16:08] <raphink> hi rcamilo_
[16:08] <silleme> raphink: will be buying a faster and newer hd soon (for xtra storage but primarily for swp).  how do I reassign swp partition in Kubuntu once have new drive?
[16:09] <raphink> silleme: are you use 2GB is the max you can use?
[16:09] <jtisme> my mouse pointer is a vertical bar tried everything to change it any ideas
[16:09] <geiseri> has anyone been having problems with the flash plugin and the ppa packages of KDE 4.2?  I can get the flash plugin to load, but it all i see is a black screen.
[16:09] <gohmifune> raphink: it seems I have no .bashrc file
[16:09] <raphink> gohmifune: ah, that might be the issue ;)
[16:10] <gohmifune> yeah
[16:10] <raphink> do you have a /etc/skel/.bashrc gohmifune?
[16:10] <gohmifune> yes
[16:10] <raphink> gohmifune: then copy it: "cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~"
[16:10] <raphink> gohmifune: and then run ". ~/.bashrc"
[16:10] <raphink> and see if you get completion
[16:11] <tyler_d3> anyone know even where I might read about this error?
[16:11] <silleme> raphink:   yes.. board is OLD...socket A.  even though this system is the slowest of 5 here at home, it is the only one w linux... and consequently my favorite.
[16:12] <raphink> silleme: that said, all my desktops are less than 2GB and work fine
[16:12] <gohmifune> raphink: thanks
[16:15] <tyler_d3> raphink: just the second panel on screen 2
[16:16] <silleme> raphink: thx. will reassign swp when receive new drive... meanwhile will check to make sure current swp working after last inght's fix (mounting of swp partition)
[16:16] <JackWinter> hey cool just installed kde 4.2 on 8.10.  looks great and fixed some issues i had :)
[16:17] <raphink> tyler_d3: did you upgrade from hardy or install from scratch in intrepid?
[16:18] <raphink> silleme: all you need to do for that is to create a swap partition on the new drive and add it to your fstab (preferably using the UUID)
[16:18] <raphink> you can get the UUID with blkid
[16:19] <raphink>  $ blkid | grep swap
[16:19] <raphink> /dev/sda5: TYPE="swap" UUID="622763c7-b7b3-451e-93c6-1872ed905536"
[16:19] <tyler_d3> raphink: fresh install
[16:22] <drayen> my dpkg seems totally broken
[16:22] <drayen> it gives no output not matter what i do
[16:22] <drayen> this hapnned after a failed update of several packages
[16:22] <drayen> i've got a live CD in the machine
[16:22] <shb> HI @ all!
[16:23] <shb> anyone using BT-Audio on intrepid?
[16:23] <raphink> drayen: you mean "dpkg -l" even?
[16:23] <tyler_d3> where is the file for the panel settings?
[16:23] <drayen> raphink yup
[16:23] <drayen> no error too
[16:23] <drayen> which is even more anoying
[16:23] <raphink> drayen: that's pretty bad. I would reinstall
[16:23] <drayen> humm
[16:23] <drayen> crap
[16:23] <drayen> ok
[16:23] <drayen> will do
[16:24] <raphink> drayen: if dpkg is broken, you don't really have anything to cleanly fix
[16:27] <julian__> alguien habla español?
[16:27] <fosco__> !es | julian__
[16:28] <julian__> im kinda new in this, somebody would like to explain me what is this?
[16:29] <user17> hello
[16:29] <fosco__> what do you want to know?
[16:29] <tyler_d3> julian__: new to which? irc? kubuntu? computers?
[16:29] <user17> Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
[16:29] <user17> params.c:OpenConfFile() - Unable to open configuration file "/etc/samba/smb.conf":
[16:29] <user17>         Permission denied
[16:29] <user17> Error loading services.
[16:29] <user17> this is what i got
[16:29] <user17> what it means?
[16:29] <mariusbd> Hi I'm trying to rebuild gwenview from source, as I would like to change some things in the source. My problem is with how to exactly build the package for gwenview. If I do a apt-get source gwenview, I get the source for the full kdegraphics set and if I try to rebuild that It gives me an error. So my question is: how do I 'just' compile gwenview and create a deb from it
[16:30] <julian__> im new in... kde
[16:30] <fosco__> user17, it seems you have no permisions to manage that file
[16:30] <julian__> ive got ubuntu 8.10, and i just instelled kde
[16:30] <fosco__> user17, try sudo chmod 755 /etc/samba/smb.conf
[16:30] <user17> so sudo can handle this?
[16:30] <user17> ahh ok
[16:31] <fosco__> maybe 644 will be fine
[16:31] <julian__> and im also kinda new in linux. i was just desparate with windows, and i decided to change my OS
[16:32] <silleme> raphink: thx again... so alls i need to do is create new partition, mount it by adding it to stab file...and system will recognize and use this new swp partiton?  dont have to modify settings in system??
[16:33] <fosco__> silleme, for swap you only have to change fstab file
[16:35] <raphink> julian__: good thing
[16:36] <raphink> silleme: once in fstab, you'll have to mount it though. Just do a "swapoff -a && swapon -a"
[16:36] <raphink> as root, that is
[16:37] <silleme> raphink:thx again....
[16:37] <raphink> no pb
[16:37] <shb> anyone using a bluetooth audio device in intrepid?
[16:38] <AndySpain> hi!  i isntalled ekiga with adept. But it does not show up in Kmenu->Internet
[16:38] <AndySpain> and 'ekiga' in terminal doesn#t do it either
[16:39] <shb> AndySpain: Then I would almost say it didn't install.
[16:39] <SlimeyPete> AndySpain: try "dpkg -L ekiga | grep bin" to find out where the program binary is
[16:39] <SlimeyPete> where "ekiga" is the name of the package
[16:41] <AndySpain> SlimPete, shb  adept says it's installed successfully. dpkg -L ekiga | grep bin  gives nothing
[16:42] <AndySpain> dpkg -L ekiga -->  package ekiga contains no files
[16:42] <AndySpain> so maybe the packages is broken?
[16:42] <AndySpain> i tried several times. no error message in adept
[16:43] <AndySpain> if i re-run adept it marks ekiga as installed
[16:43] <SlimeyPete> AndySpain: Odd. A "dpkg -L ekiga" on my Ubuntu system shows lots of files.
[16:44] <AndySpain> SlimeyPete I tried the GTK-only version
[16:44] <AndySpain> I'll now try the normal version
[16:47] <AndySpain> installed
[16:47] <khalid> sala de español
[16:47] <AndySpain> nothing in K menu still
[16:47] <jpedroza> !es | khalid
[16:47] <AndySpain> but now the package contains many files at least
[16:48] <AndySpain> yea, it works, typing 'ekiga' in terminal starts it.
[16:48] <khalid> gracias
[16:48] <AndySpain> How can I copy it into the kmenu?
[16:48] <Nemesis02> question for people here, does anyone know howto remote desktop into an OS X system?
[16:49] <|Krooks|> I'm on Intrepid. Its very very good. I wonder what more can they do to improve Kubuntu. Its almost perfect. :)
[16:49] <draik_> I have finally resolved my issue when trying to fix GRUB. I needed to place the add-on card prior to IDE. Now, when I get into Kubuntu, I am able to do simple things, but if I run an app, it freezes my system.
[16:50] <draik_> Also, I just realized that I cannot run Windows XP from the other hard drive. The GRUB menu is correct, but it doesn't boot. It just sits there.
[16:51] <|Krooks|> When was Intrepid released ?
[16:52] <draik_> |Krooks|: October 30 or 31, IIRC
[16:52] <ubuntu_> whats up
[16:52] <ubuntu_> got a problem installing ubuntu
[16:52] <ubuntu_> i get to the part where i select the keyboard layout and hit continue
[16:53] <|Krooks|> is Kubuntu developers volunteers or paid by Canonical ? Or mixed ?
[16:53] <ubuntu_> it scaned the devices, detects filesystems and then just stops
[16:53] <ubuntu_> i cant get passed the install 3/6 setup window
[16:53] <i3ooi3oo_> I have recently installed 8.10... I can not manually configure my network connection.  I have created a connection but can not make it use it.
[16:53] <ubuntu_> is there a text installer on the live cd?
[16:54] <xmhscratch> ?
[16:54] <ubuntu_> or sdo i have to get the altnative cd?
[16:54] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu_: No. You need the Alternate CD for that.
[16:54] <ubuntu_> dangit
[16:57] <ubuntu_> i have 5 hard drives in my system but i dont know which is which based on model number, how can i mount them?
[16:57] <ubuntu_> they are ntfs
[16:57] <ubuntu_> i tried sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1/ /mnt/sda1
[16:57] <|Krooks|> Are many of KDE developers also using Kubuntu ?
[16:57] <ubuntu_> but it comes up the drive is in use
[16:58] <ubuntu_> how can i see what drives are on my system?
[16:59] <SlimeyPete> type "mount" on its own to see what drives are currently mounted
[17:10] <Dr_Willis64> sudo fdisk -l may also give some clues as to what drives are what
[17:11] <AndySpain> if i try to use my microphone it only  records noise
[17:11] <AndySpain> what can i do?
[17:12] <fosco__> adjust its volume
[17:12] <ubuntu_> buy a new mic lol
[17:12] <i3ooi3oo> what do I have to do tp make knetworkmanager work correctly
[17:12] <ubuntu_> if it only records noise, you either have it plugged into the wrong port or the system doesn't think the mic is a mic
[17:13] <ubuntu_> B00b00, thats kind of a vague question
[17:13] <AndySpain> ubuntu_ it's integrated, so not wrongly plugged
[17:13] <AndySpain> laptop
[17:13] <ubuntu_> then you need to reconfigure it
[17:13] <AndySpain> how?
[17:13] <AndySpain> am new to linux
[17:13] <ubuntu_> open a console and type 'lspci'
[17:14] <ubuntu_> see if your sound card is listen
[17:14] <ubuntu_> listed
[17:14] <i3ooi3oo> Well I would assume when you configure a connection then select it it should change the IP settings
[17:14] <AndySpain> yes it is
[17:14] <ubuntu_> it should
[17:14] <fosco__> AndySpain, go to mixer settings and check mic volume
[17:15] <i3ooi3oo> I have one connection defined and it uses a Manually confiured IP.  yet despite clicking the new connection I am still running DHCP
[17:15] <AndySpain> ubuntu_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/119298/
[17:15] <ubuntu_> in the console type 'alsamixer
[17:15] <ubuntu_> and you went back into the connection to verify that the settings were saved?
[17:16] <AndySpain> ubuntu_ there's some ATI radeon audio device but radeon is my video card
[17:16] <iris> hi
[17:16] <ubuntu_> ati also has a HD audio driver
[17:17] <i3ooi3oo> but it is using the Intel HDA
[17:17] <iris> I used kino to capture video from my 1 hour tape. It came out as a 12 GB file. How can I fit this on one DVD?
[17:17] <iris> my old windows program would do it.. do I have to convert it?
[17:17] <Originooo> hey. how do i set a picture as wallpaper in gwenview? :/
[17:18] <AndySpain> ubuntu_ so there are two audio devices.  ok. am in alsamixer now
[17:18] <ubuntu_> yes iris
[17:18] <Dr_Willis64> it might not have that feature integerated into the viewer.  Originooo  ive not tried that tool lately
[17:18] <i3ooi3oo> isis this is support for the OS not every program it
[17:18] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119298/
[17:18] <ubuntu_> oops, werong window :P
[17:19] <sittisak> ดีดี
[17:19] <i3ooi3oo> iris: try http://www.kinodv.org/dcforum/dcforum?az=show_topics&forum=100&page=
[17:19] <ubuntu_> AndySpain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsamixer
[17:20] <Originooo> Dr_Willis64: thx, i can't find any plugins in menubar. seems not to exist yet
[17:20] <ubuntu_> brb, gotta finish my install
[17:20] <julian_> hola
[17:20] <Suiko> hola
[17:20] <Dr_Willis64> Nacho Grande!
[17:20] <Dr_Willis64> :P
[17:20] <Suiko> como estas
[17:20] <Dr_Willis64> Now i am Hungry
[17:21] <Suiko> you are hungary?
[17:21]  * genii slides Dr_Willis64 a cookie
[17:21]  * i3ooi3oo warns Dr_Willis64 as a few have gone missing after eating those cookies
[17:22] <wildbat> i heard cookie?~ ^,^b
[17:22] <Suiko> cookies are out...
[17:22] <wildbat> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[17:22] <Dr_Willis64> I perfer Pie!
[17:22] <Dr_Willis64> :)
[17:23] <Suiko> but i still have some brownies
[17:23] <i3ooi3oo> Mmmmm Brownies...
[17:23] <i3ooi3oo> Are they Special ?
[17:23] <Suiko> yeah ^^
[17:24] <Dr_Willis64> Brownies...  - wife bought 20 lbs of 'brownie' mixx on sale the other day.. :)
[17:24] <Dr_Willis64> night all.
[17:24] <Suiko> nice wife you got
[17:24] <i3ooi3oo> it's barely noon
[17:24] <Dr_Willis64> yep.. she likes brownies.. and loves clearance Sale
[17:24] <Dr_Willis64> I work 3rd shift.
[17:24] <Dr_Willis64> its bed time.
[17:24] <i3ooi3oo> ewww
[17:24] <i3ooi3oo> Nite
[17:25] <D_likescookies> hullo.
[17:25] <i3ooi3oo> or noon
[17:25] <Dr_Willis64> yep.. going to bed at High Noon..
[17:25] <Suiko> like the hard guys
[17:25] <Dr_Willis64> Like the Vampires. :)
[17:25] <Suiko> like the computer geeks
[17:26] <Suiko> you get your nutricioun through the pizza boy
[17:27] <kuaera_> Is it always this strange in here...?
[17:27]  * Dr_Willis64 is tired and goofy. :) 
[17:27] <AndySpain> bumbi: http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto5du7.png
[17:27] <Dr_Willis64> night all... or did i say that allready...
[17:27] <AndySpain> my alsamixer in capture view
[17:28] <bumbi> ok?
[17:29] <tyler_d3> my sound icon is missing from my panel
[17:29] <iris> thanks for the help guys.
[17:30] <bumbi> what do you people think about kde4.2?
[17:30] <Suiko> it sucks baals
[17:32] <bumbi> I find it looks quite flashy, dont like the window manager theme though.
[17:32] <BluesKaj> it works , bumbi
[17:32] <AndySpain> bumbi: do you see what's wrong with my micro settings?
[17:33] <bumbi> muted?
[17:33] <AndySpain> and how do i unmute?
[17:34] <Suiko> i have special keys =D
[17:34] <Suiko> functional+F3
[17:35] <bumbi> sorry I have no idea, but check that you are using the correct input source in alsa
[17:35] <AndySpain> bumbi input sources are only mic and front mic.  mic brinmgs nothing. front mic noise. and dunno what all theses capture and digital things are
[17:36] <kuaera_> Are there any extensions or plugins for klauncher?
[17:37] <fosco__> bumbi, about kde4.2? a very good DE
[17:37] <fosco__> i'm thinking on leaving gnome
[17:37] <bumbi> capture are for recording via a phono mic,
[17:38] <bumbi> digital is for output to a reciever
[17:39] <bumbi> gnome i ok, kde ok. Im in the middle right now.
[17:39] <Suiko> like melcolm in the middle?
[17:39] <bumbi> More like I cant deside which one to stay with.
[17:40] <AndySpain> bumbi so if i wanna record from my microphone thats integrated into my notebook, then i raise all four capture bars to 100%? and put digital to 0 as being a possible source of the noise?
[17:41] <Suiko> just stay by kde
[17:41] <Suiko> its more developed
[17:41] <jtisme> my mouse pointer is a vertical bar cannot change it any ideas
[17:41] <bumbi> Dont go 100%, check that there are no loopback feedback from the mic.
[17:42] <bumbi> try different mouse theme?
[17:42] <AndySpain> bumbi: where do i see if i have loopback feedback?
[17:42] <AndySpain> am now on 67% each
[17:43] <bumbi> the loopback appears when you have your mic to close to the speakers.
[17:46] <kuaera_> Scratch that, I meant KRunner...which is pretty awesome.
[17:46] <AndySpain> bumbi: doe theses setting look correct for enabling my fornt micro (not muted and not producing noise): http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto6om9.png   ?
[17:49] <quassel65> Hi! In dolphin, how do I reset the zoom level?
[17:51] <quassel65> I mean: you can adjust the zoom level with the slider on the bottom left or with View->Zoom in/out.
[17:51] <quassel65> But, if I adjusted the zoom level and I want the default back, what do I do then?
[17:52] <Originooo> cntrl+mousescroll
[17:53] <quassel65> yes, I can zoom however I want with that, but how do I make it go to the default zoom level? I mean, maybe I'll miss it if using that.
[17:54] <PSiL0> Paddy_EIRE: hey how is it going
[17:55] <quassel65> Originooo: do you know what I mean?
[17:55] <JackWinter> does kde 4.2 have something like gkrellm
[17:56] <quassel65> or do I have to explain more clearly?
[18:01] <wildbat> question : what is the command line to put system in suspend ?
[18:02] <noren> hello everyone
[18:02] <noren> i m new here what all ccan we discuss here
[18:03] <wildbat> kubuntu i guess ;p
[18:04] <noren> how can i see what kde i m currently using
[18:04] <noren> and how to update to the latest kde
[18:04] <noren> hello  wildbat
[18:05] <wildbat> kde4.2 is still test in~
[18:06] <wildbat> off to school later ~
[18:06] <noren> ok
[18:07] <noren> how to check my current kde version
[18:07] <Tm_T> noren: in any KDE application: menu Help -> About
[18:08] <noren> thanks Tm_T
[18:10] <JackWinter> Tm_T: i upgraded my kde today to 4.2 on a 8.10 install.  seems to work fine even though there was a problem while updating it.  is it normal that say konversation shows 3.5.10, other apps show 4.2
[18:10] <Tm_T> JackWinter: is, there's no Konversation release under KDE4 yet
[18:11] <JackWinter> Tm_T: thanks was thinking that, but didn't know how it worked :)
[18:13] <noren> Jack how did u upgrade please guide
[18:15] <JackWinter> noren: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[18:19] <BluesKaj> JackWinter, konverstaion is kde 3.5 ..it's being replaced by Quassel in kde 4.2
[18:19] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: will be replaced in Kubuntu, yes
[18:23] <JackWinter> how do i verify that that all dependencies are in order ?
[18:24] <noren> hey jack do i have to uninstall all kdeplasma* packages
[18:26] <JackWinter> noren: i just removed one, but i didn't install any.  this was a fresh install of 8.10.  but seems to say that they aren't compatible...
[18:26] <JackWinter> noren: i removed quickaccess
[18:29] <noren> well lemme try and see the difference...
[18:30] <noren> will i be able to use compiz with kde4.2
[18:33] <judgen> noren:  kde4 has its own compositing engine
[18:33] <Shock> noren: you should be able to do that it that's what you choose
[18:34] <judgen> yay! back at kde3 land... i just feel so at home now.
[18:35] <JackWinter> noren: don't know if this is because i had a problem installing, but trying to install several plasmoids tells me that i have dependency problems.  a libplasma2 not installed.  but probably means that several plasmoids don't work with 4.2 (i guess)
[18:36] <noren> i have been using ubuntu frrm the past 3 years.... i am very new to this kubuntu ( means kde).....
[18:37] <noren> right now i am upgrading to 4.2 but is therre any way to rrevert back to kde 4.1.3 (kubuntu 8.10)
[18:38] <kuaera_> judgen:  KDE4 has it's own compositing manager outside of KWin?
[18:39] <judgen> kuaera_ nope its built in
[18:39] <judgen> kwin
[18:40] <altrortla> #windows
[18:47] <kuaera_> judgen: Huh? It's built in kwin?
[18:47] <taupter_> Hello. I'm having two strange problems here affecting three kubuntu machines. The first the sound. KDE4.2 says audio devices were removed, but other non-KDE programs are able to use the "removed" devices happily.
[18:48] <danub> !windows
[18:48] <danub> !mountwindows
[18:49] <danub> !NTFS-3g
[18:49] <danub> there we go :) took me long enough
[18:51] <danub> how can i readjust my screen to actually fit my screen?
[18:51] <danub> in console mode, its about 8 lines further down my screen then what i can view
[18:51] <taupter_> The second one is the machines don't connect to the network automaticly anymore. I have to issue dhclient by hand if I want to connect, and one notebook doesn't even load the ssb module anymore. Knetworkmanager seems to have no effect.
[19:00] <danub> ok, back
[19:00] <danub> i think im good to go now, but i need to know what the command is to create a windows boot line in grub
[19:01] <danub> the disk isn't being seen by grub since it is on a different controller
[19:04] <danub> my windows disk is SDB, do i make the line in grub: root     (sd1,0)
[19:07] <noren> are ktorrent in kde different from biittorrent in gnome ... ii find the later faster
[19:13] <Brad777> Hi can someone help me get a microphone working... I have been trying to figure this out for a few days now and I can't seem to get it right. I have messed with the mixer muting and unmuting things moving volume bars I got to where I can hear the microphone but the application (Mumble) doesn't pick anything up... #alsa is less than useless
[19:14] <JackWinter> noren: i think i've seen something to that effect discussed somewhere.
[19:21] <paolo_> [OFF-TOPIC] Hi. how is it called the time, in the job, dedicated to lunch ?
[19:21] <Brad777> lunch break?
[19:21] <Originooo> cd /home/pete/Music
[19:21] <Brad777> Hi can someone help me get a microphone working... I have been trying to figure this out for a few days now and I can't seem to get it right. I have messed with the mixer muting and unmuting things moving volume bars I got to where I can hear the microphone but Mumble doesn't pick anything up
[19:22] <paolo_> thanks Brad777
[19:23] <Originooo> cd /home/pete/Examples
[19:25] <ngranek> hi all
[19:26] <Brad777> geez this much trouble just to make a friggin microphone work no wonder linux isn't the most popular os >_>
[19:27] <QContinueum> asking for help during lunch break isn't the best time really...
[19:28] <JackWinter> Brad777: imo linus sound can be a nightmare to setup....  i think i had to enable a digital input or something like that to get the mic working in skype.  was somehow mislabeled in kmix.  probably a alsa problem.  intel-hda...
[19:28] <jussi01> Brad777: if its working elsewhere and not in mumble it might be a muble issue?
[19:30] <ockonal> Hello guys, how can i format my usb-card from linux?
[19:30] <ockonal> Fast-fat32 formatting, like in Windows
[19:32] <fosco__> do you know its partition name?
[19:32] <||arifaX> hi. anyone has the same problem. when I try to list files on my gmailfs drive I get 0 files but if I list files I know the name of it works!?
[19:34] <ockonal> fosco_: yeah
[19:36] <fosco__> ockonal, so sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/partition_name
[19:36] <fosco__> make sure partition_name is correct, mkfs will delete everithing it touches
[19:37] <ockonal> fosco_: ok, thanks a lot
[19:38] <ngranek> we have one laptop with ubuntu 8.10 ... we added the repositories for KDE 4.2 from launchpad but we are missing the 'GTK Styles and Fonts' on the appearance section from 'System Settings' ... which pakage must we install to have it? we already installed gtk-qt-engine and gtk-qt-engine-kde4, but the menu entry is still missing
[19:43] <Brad777> jussi01: doesn't work in anything
[19:52] <i3ooi3oo> where can I find the setting for the ethernet controler
[20:06] <JackWinter> any reason that g++ might not find libasound2-dev when it's installed ?
[20:27] <mofux> hey guys... how can i tie my power button to the "suspend to ram" function in kde4?
[20:30] <maco> is there a kde equivalent to GNOME Planner?
[20:30] <Tm_T> maco: what this "gnome planner" should do?
[20:30] <maco> Tm_T: its a project management app...assign tasks, make gantt charts...that stuff
[20:31] <Tm_T> hmm, then I'm not sure
[20:31] <kuaera_> KPlato, as part of the KOffice 2 suite, sort of replaces that, though it's still in development
[20:31] <Tm_T> aye, though is it "the same"
[20:32] <kuaera_> Unlikely.
[20:34] <maco> ok thanks
[20:51] <steevc> Hi, I've been using Kubuntu for a while, but only just installed 8.10. Kept my old /home. Got a few issues, but main one today is that I have sound with one user, but not another when both logged in. Has worked on other days
[20:51] <steevc> it happened yesterday, but a reboot fixed it. is there another way?
[20:55] <sven_> hello all, what is good software in (k)ubuntu to work with php? Not local but on the server.... tx!!
[21:00] <athlon1> Any can tell me how can i configure gmail under a proxy? I want to mount it with mount.gmailfs
[21:03] <AndySpain> Hi!  How can I  add a program to the K-menu?
[21:10] <heinkel_vista> AndySpain: you right click on the menu, I think
[21:10] <heinkel_vista> ...I am in windows right now so maybe I bettercheck
[21:10] <AndySpain> heinkel_vista: thank you.
[21:10] <AndySpain> it's that i installed ekiga and it runs fine but only from konsole
[21:11] <AndySpain> and if i close console ekiga closes, so i must add it
[21:12] <heinkel_vista> <-- is clueless about ekiga but I think the K menu editing is as I remember it ;-)
[21:12] <AndySpain> heinkel, ok I found it and added it. let's see if it runs the program now
[21:12] <AndySpain> what do you use for VOIP?
[21:13] <AndySpain> ekiga's the only one i know
[21:13] <AndySpain> heinkel_vista: yea, ot worked, thank you
[21:13] <AndySpain> now I must just find an icon for it, as it's nude
[21:15] <JackWinter>  AndySpain: there is also skype, and 2 more linux solutions that i can't remember the name of.
[21:16] <JackWinter> AndySpain: do you know medibuntu.org ?  is a good thing to add..
[21:16] <AndySpain> i don't like skype
[21:16] <AndySpain> due to closed-source and closed-protocol nature
[21:16] <AndySpain> JackWinter ok, i will check out that website
[21:18] <portatile> hello!
[21:18] <alesan> hi, where do I physically find backgrounds? I mean the files
[21:18] <portatile> !list
[21:26] <noren> wow updated to kde4.2 its working fine till now
[21:27] <Brad777> noren: nowai i've never had kde 4.0
[21:27] <Brad777> noren: nowai i've never had kde 4.0+ working fine*
[21:28] <noren> Brad i m neww to kdee.. just uploaded frommm kubuntu 8.10 too kde 4.2.....
[21:29] <noren> but i still cant figure out howto configure scrensaver in kde
[21:30] <angelblanco> hola alguien escribe en español
[21:30] <JackWinter> i'm happy with it too...  stilll on 8.04 on my main partition but playing with 4.2 on 8.10.  looking forward to 9.04...
[21:30] <jussi01> !es
[21:31] <noren> jack some help with the screensaver plz
[21:31] <maco> does kmail fail to recover from network outages for anyone else?
[21:31] <noren> now i want to upgrade to latest amorak 2 :)
[21:32] <maco> it wont reconnect to my IMAP til after i exit and restart it
[21:32] <AndySpain> nore: screensaver is easy
[21:32] <Brad777> noren: unfortunately i don't use a screensave so i don't know
[21:32] <AndySpain> noren: k-menu->Computer->Settings
[21:33] <Infecto> hmm i have problems with networkmanager i cant scan for wifi connections
[21:33] <JackWinter> noren: system->system settings->desktop :)
[21:35] <AndySpain> how can i give an icon to a k-menu entry that has none?
[21:36] <noren> ohh thanks guys............. still damn new too this kde interface...... thnks for the help
[21:36] <ibuffy> can someone please help me solve this problem: http://dpaste.com/121859/
[21:36] <JackWinter> AndySpain: click the empty icon when you are editing the kmenu
[21:36] <AndySpain> noren: don't worry. I'm new to it as well. 2 days
[21:37] <AndySpain> JackWinter: aaaaaaaaaahhhh.
[21:37] <AndySpain> yes
[21:37] <noren> same here andy
[21:37] <sito> who do i descompress a ratdvd in ubuntu?
[21:38] <genii> ibuffy: You can specify version to install on apt-get line. eg:  sudo apt-get install koffice-data-kde4= 1:1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1
[21:39] <noaXess> hi and good evening all
[21:39] <AndySpain> noren: how did you update to kde 4.2?  I'm still on kde 4.1.4 the way it came with the kubuntu installation
[21:40] <ibuffy> genii: http://dpaste.com/121863/
[21:40] <noaXess> sometimes my keyboard stops working.. i need to restart kdm to bring it back.. have searched and found some solutiongs to backup/rename .kde folder and relogin with same user and it should be solved.. but then all settings are gone and i need to reconfig them all.
[21:40] <noaXess> any other idea hint why keaboarw will stop working?
[21:41] <noaXess> AndySpain: read this for upgrading to 4.2
[21:41] <noaXess> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[21:41] <AndySpain> noaXess: thanks
[21:42] <noren> andy goto http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[21:42] <genii> ibuffy: Since it wants to just overwrite some files from prvious package, use --force-yes with it
[21:42] <sito> who do i descompress a ratdvd in ubuntu?
[21:43] <AndySpain> thank you noren
[21:43] <ibuffy> genii: http://dpaste.com/121868/
[21:46] <noren> are bittorrent and ktorrent same software with different interface or differrent software altogather
[21:46] <noren> i used bittorent with gnome i ffelt it had less options but a faster  than ktorrent
[21:47] <genii> ibuffy: Yes, problemmatic. You may have to temporarily switch themes(if usinf oxygen), deinstall kde-icons-oxygen
[21:47] <genii> ibuffy: Then install the current package, then try reinstall of kde-icons-oxygen
[21:47] <AndySpain> one beginner's question: are ALL of my settings in my home directory (themes, screensaver, wallpaper, k-menu config, panel configs, workspace config, browser bookmarks, ...)  so that only backing up /home   is enought to not only save personal files like photos and documentes, but also all settings???
[21:47] <Tm_T> AndySpain: yes
[21:48] <olafw> noren afaik they are different implementations of the same protocol
[21:48] <AndySpain> Tm_T that's great. :-) Thank you
[21:48] <olafw> with bittorrent in some ways at least being the reference implementation
[21:49] <darksmoke> why guys
[21:50] <darksmoke> when i open a movie player full screen the panel is still visible but when i set the setting to let windows go on top of it , it gets some border around the panel which is unremovable
[21:53] <noaXess> AndySpain: all settings are in your /home/user/.folers.. also in hidden folders.. in dolphin press "ALT+." to show/hide hidden files/folders..
[21:54] <noaXess> good night to all..
[21:55] <AndySpain> noaXess
[21:55] <AndySpain> thank you
[21:55] <AndySpain> good night
[21:55] <ibuffy> genii: so after switching themes... http://dpaste.com/121877/
[21:55] <ibuffy> anyone else care to help genii in helping me solve this problem?
[21:57] <AndySpain> there's a little bug
[21:58] <JackWinter> noren: there is also vuze
[21:58] <AndySpain> when you post a link here in irc and I hit it, it opens Mozilla Thunderbird
[21:58] <Tm_T> JackWinter: no cursing please
[21:58] <Tm_T> (;
[21:59] <AndySpain> I klicked k-menu->computer->system settings -> default applications and there i changed the standard for webbrowser from the first option to second option
[21:59] <noren> vuze ??
[21:59] <AndySpain> writing there 'konqueror'  or browsing for konqueror which then writes 'konqborwser'
[22:00] <JackWinter> AndySpain: i "think" all the settings are saved in .kde, you can even set an enviroment variable KDEHOME to change it.
[22:00] <genii> ibuffy: What version installed reports: spt-cache policy kde-icons-oxygen
[22:00] <AndySpain> then I try to open a link here again and in panel konqueror shows up, but can't be opened and disappeares again
[22:00] <genii> *apt-cache
[22:00]  * genii takes typing lessons
[22:01] <AndySpain> JackWinter: environment variable?
[22:01] <JuJuBee>  I need advice on video card.  I am gearing up to purchase a new laptop.  Many come with GeForce 9600M GT etc... and some  come wtih Intel GMA 4500 HD video cards.  Which has better support in Kubuntu?
[22:01] <JackWinter> AndySpain: but that will only be bookmarks, email, etc.  to back up your data you need to backup the locations where you stored it...
[22:01] <AndySpain> JackWinter all my data is in /home   :-)
[22:02] <maco> JuJuBee: Intels work out of the box. Nvidias require installing extra drivers for 3D acceleration (which may break suspend and hibernate).  Intel's drivers are open source, so we can fix them.  Nvidia's 3D drivers are binary-only, so we can't fix them.
[22:02] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, any nvidia will perform better than any intel video card ... nvidia support is excellent in ubuntu
[22:02] <maco> that said, Nvidia will probably have better performance
[22:02] <ibuffy> genii: what?
[22:02] <JackWinter> Tm_T: i use ktorrent, but it does indeed seem to have some probs, atleast in my normal 8.04 env...
[22:03] <ibuffy> genii: ah, nm
[22:03] <JuJuBee> Thanks for the  info.  I always thought nVidia was supposed to bet better with linux.  I will opt for the intel ones then
[22:03] <ibuffy> will paste.
[22:03] <JuJuBee> I am tired of fussing with them (have ATI now... :(  )
[22:03] <ibuffy> genii: http://dpaste.com/121882/
[22:04] <JackWinter> noren: azureus (or however it's called)
[22:04] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, nVidia support on linux is miles ahead than ATI
[22:04] <AndySpain> well, am leaving
[22:05] <AndySpain> have a good nite
[22:05] <JuJuBee> bigjocker I am aware of that.  Bought the laptop before started using linux.
[22:05] <AndySpain> and thanks for your help
[22:05] <genii> ibuffy: Also says koffice-data-kde4 is same version?
[22:05] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, in ubuntu you'll just have to install a new driver ... that's all ... if you intend to use 3D software (games, rendering tools, 3d modelling, even compiz) any nVidia will perform orders of magnitude better than any intel ... if you are just a desktop user, maybe the simplicity of intel is best suited for you
[22:06] <Infecto> hmm
[22:06] <Infecto> i resolve one problem but stick to another
[22:06] <JuJuBee> bigjocker : I would like to use it for gaming if I can.  SO which nVidia is best?  The HCL is not very helpfulll
[22:06] <Infecto> i cant run openvpn from konsole
[22:06] <JackWinter> it's a setting that tells kde where to look for it's variables.  you could ctrl-alt-f1 to change to a separate virtual terminal, "set KDEHOME=$home/.kde2", and then "startx -- :3" to start a "diffferent" kde which you would find under c-a-f9
[22:07] <Infecto> network manager wants to do it by it self
[22:07] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, i use this benchmark list whenever i'm looking for a new laptop: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
[22:07] <genii> Time to migrate home from work, I'll be /away til then (about 30 minutes or so)
[22:08] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, higher model does not always mean better performance
[22:09] <ibuffy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:09] <ibuffy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4_1%3a1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[22:09] <ibuffy> genii: i guess that's what you mean
[22:10] <JuJuBee> bigjocker : so many different ones.  How do I know which works with linux better?
[22:13]  * DS-Away is away: Not Here
[22:13] <JuJuBee> bigjocker : many laptops come with nVidia 9600M GT.  Is that a good one?  Well supported?
[22:14] <JuJuBee> Don't know what all the benchmarks really mean on that site.  Seems like it is reasonably good.
[22:15]  * darksmoke is back.
[22:16] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, the 9600M is relatively new ... but is listed as 44
[22:16] <bled> can i use gogle talk ? in kubuntu
[22:17] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, i have a dell XPS with a 7900GS ... listed at 36
[22:17] <bigjocker> JuJuBee,nvidia nomenclature works like this
[22:17] <Tm_T> !away > darksmoke
[22:17] <Tm_T> bled: use Kopete
[22:18] <bigjocker> there are series and generations ... the 9200, 8200, 7200 are almost the same card, with modified pipelines
[22:18] <bigjocker> so usually a x900 or x950 will perform better
[22:18] <bigjocker> unless x is 3 or 4 generations old
[22:18] <bled> yes im using kopete for msn and yahoo  gut there no skype ;((
[22:19] <bled> or google talk
[22:19] <Tm_T> bled: there is, xmpp
[22:19] <bigjocker> JuJuBee, so for gaming look for a 7950, 8700, 8800, 8900 or 9900
[22:19] <bigjocker> although the 7950 does not support DX10
[22:20] <bigjocker> for ubuntu i've found that the 7900 works like a charm ... and windows games run better in ubuntu with wine than in windows itself
[22:24] <marcospiros> #ubuntu
[22:24] <noren> k
[22:29]  * DS-Away is away: Not Here
[22:32]  * darksmoke is back.
[22:33] <Tm_T> darksmoke: please stop using public away
[22:35] <noren> dragon player is behaving eraticaly (no soound sometime) should i get vlc again
[22:36] <JuJuBee> bigjocker : Thanks for the info.  Where does the 9300 fit into all of this?
[22:38] <JuJuBee> Oh, and I read somewhere that the 9800 is not working well with linux.  Is that true?
[22:39] <genii> Back
[22:40] <Rocking-W> I booted hardy heron this am and no sound what happened?
[22:41] <genii> ibuffy: Yes, that the kofice-data-kde4 version jibes with the "koffice-libs-kde4: Depends: koffice-data-kde4 (>= 1:1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but it is not going to be installed" version
[22:42] <JuJuBee> Well, gotta go out for a while.  Thanks bigjocker.
[22:42] <Rocking-W> will updating to 8.10 solve my no sound problem?
[22:47] <server_> hi
[22:47] <PSiL0> gah, dolphin slowing down yet again while working in my lab directory with many tiff image stacks
[22:47] <PSiL0> info panel is off
[22:48] <server_> kann her auch einer Deutsch?
[22:48] <PSiL0> !de | server_
[22:49] <server_> Danke dir
[22:49] <senorpedro> server_: i can deutsch
[22:51] <server_> oder kann mir jemand eine Anleitung zum installieren von tar.gz geben??
[22:51] <Tm_T> server_: senorpedro: please only english here
[22:51] <server_> weil ich samba installieren möchte
[22:51] <server_> ok bb
[22:51]  * DS-Away is away: Not Here
[22:52] <senorpedro> server_: aptitude install samba
[22:52] <senorpedro> no need for tar.gz
[22:52] <server_> ok thx.
[22:56] <noren> wow amarok 2  was complete disaster.. reverting back to old amarok
[22:57] <TnEt1> #join
[22:57] <noren> i need something beter than dragonn player also no sound there <<
[22:59] <dutler> whats wrong with amarij2?
[23:00] <yotux> I have a question about java in kubuntu
[23:00] <yotux> At work you are getting allot of java worms is kbuuntu also able to get these java bugs?
[23:01] <dutler> java worms as in malware? do they exploit system resorces?
[23:03] <amgarching> ignore test irc
[23:03] <noren> amarok 2 craaashed while building the music collection database
[23:04] <dutler> noren: and its hopless? no fix or workaround?
[23:05] <yotux> dulter:  I think they where linked to keyloggers
[23:06] <noren> has anyone here usssed amarok2 sucessfuly here
[23:06] <dutler> yotux: intheory (i have not experianced this myslef) a keylogger with in the java program will be protable accrossed systems. but i dont see it have access to the ystesm in linux
[23:06] <dutler> you may want to check out appamor
[23:07] <dutler> is like bsd's jails... you can isolate indevitual programs from the rest of the system
[23:07] <yotux> I have heard of it before when I was using fedora
[23:08] <dutler> notren: its beautifull for me... thats why i was trying to encorgage you not to give up on it, unless you have already done everything possible
[23:09] <noren> ok lemme try once again but the interfaace of amarok 2 is odd
[23:09] <dutler> yotux: id also revaluate the need for those certian java progarms as part of the risk analyisis
[23:10] <dutler> noren:ya its differnt. you can run the gnome media play if you want..... lots of them out there, its prob more important that you find one that gets alone with you rather than take anyones opinion
[23:10] <bdizzle> hi
[23:11] <bdizzle> I was wondering if there was some sort of search function to be able to locate a file, either by the text within the file or the file name itself?
[23:11] <yotux> dutler:  at work the virus software is catching js worm on webpages.
[23:12] <dutler> bdizzle i think you want to check this out https://wiki.kubuntu.org/StrigiIntegration
[23:12] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[23:13] <dutler> yotux: oh, javascript, not java .... very differnt. what broswer you use a work?
[23:13] <yotux> Ie and some firefox
[23:13] <yotux> sorry I confuse them
[23:13] <bdizzle> dutler: its not in adept to d/l
[23:14] <noren> dutler: does the prob lies tht i have upgraded too kde4.2 which support less of plaasmoid
[23:14] <dutler> bdizzle sorry, that site did not have the info i thought. but the kde search tech is call strigi. i think you have to do a bit of work to get it upand running
[23:14] <bdizzle> okay
[23:14] <dutler> yotux: im 99% that it wont be a problem on linux.
[23:14] <bdizzle> package doesn't exist on apt-get
[23:15] <dutler> if you and to pose the name of the expoloits, i can resarch more for ya
[23:15] <yotux> ok I will try to get the logs form admins
[23:16] <dutler> bdizzle sudo aptitude search strigi
[23:16] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[23:16] <bdizzle> nothing came up
[23:16] <dutler> odd. you on 8.10 with kde4.2?
[23:17] <bdizzle> yes
[23:19] <dutler> looks like they are in the univers repo
[23:20] <bdizzle> I've got universe enabled
[23:21] <yotux> dutler: JS:Packed-T
[23:21] <dutler> bdizzle here is what i got
[23:21] <dutler> http://pastebin.com/d70c77fe0
[23:21] <bdizzle> huh, okay, let me try again
[23:21] <bdizzle> yeah I get nothign when I try that
[23:22] <bdizzle> I don't know why
[23:22] <dutler> apt-get update ??
[23:22] <bdizzle> nothing
[23:22] <judgen> how do i use compiz as default window manager in kde3
[23:23] <dutler> bdizzle: look at the update http://pastebin.com/m677f0acc
[23:23] <dutler> apt-cache shows strigi-utils in too diff repos
[23:23] <dutler> the more current is the ppa
[23:24] <bdizzle> Installed: (none)
[23:24] <noren> i dont have any sound innn any media vid player.... but amarok is playing fine pplz help
[23:25] <dutler> the piont is, is that the strigi applicaitons ar there in the repos... if you can find em, maybe something up with your apt
[23:25] <bdizzle> and it can't find package deskbar-plugins-stringi either
[23:25] <dutler> noren: check out he audio troubleshooting on the wiki and forums
[23:27] <dutler> yotux: not much out there. i run the noscript plug in for firefox. you should check it out, you can chose to run other scripts but not JS:Packed-T
[23:27] <dutler> it als appearst to be something pdf related....
[23:27] <drostie> okaay, so this is maybe a more general-purpose question than the kubuntu help is for.
[23:28] <drostie> but I want to change the partition that I boot out of.
[23:28] <drostie> And grub is set up nicely, and initramfs seems to be set up correctly, and fstab is pointing at the right device...
[23:29] <drostie> but no dice: the computer still boots into /dev/sda2. No matter what I seem to do.
[23:29] <drostie> Can anyone help with that?
[23:29] <dutler> use pastbin to post your grub.conf
[23:31] <dutler> have to catch the shop b4 5. bbin 30 min drostie and ill try to help
[23:31] <bdizzle> wow, stringi isn't even in the Ubuntu package manager site to download the .deb files
[23:32] <Laeborg> i only get 150-200 FPS when i run glxgears :s
[23:32] <drostie> There's a grub.conf?
[23:33] <drostie> Not on my system, there's not... o_O
[23:33] <genii> drostie: Wht is grub.conf on some linux is on ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:36] <drostie> genii: ah, k. In that case, I'm not sure why s/he wants to see it. I'm rather sure that the right ramfs is loading and everything.
[23:38] <genii> drostie: Can you re-cap your issue for me, I can't find the original in backscroll just now
[23:39] <drostie> okay. Cryptsetup w/ LUKS on /dev/sda5. Temporary kubuntu install on /dev/sda2. Formatted the /dev/mapper entry for sda5 as ext4, copied all of my data to the mapper.
[23:41] <bdizzle> gah I installed desktop-applet-stringi, but now its not visible as a program anywhere
[23:41] <bdizzle> wtf is going on?
[23:41] <genii> drostie: Ah, OK. Unfortunately I don't know anything about LUKS setup :(
[23:41] <drostie> And /dev/sdb1 is a usb key that holds its own native install of kubuntu, which I just used to get GRUB to install right (it didn't like grub-install for some reason.)
[23:43] <drostie> Well, LUKS isn't the issue. LUKS is setup and running. The issue seems to be in initramfs-tools: I can't get it to point at /dev/mapper/umbra for my root partition, instead of pointing at /dev/sda2.
[23:43] <bdizzle> ugh, it has deskbar-applet-stringi installed, but it doesn't have any of the stringi applications installed
[23:44] <bdizzle> and I can't find them through package search either
[23:45] <drostie> fstab points at the right partition, there is a ROOT directive in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf pointing at the right partition, and I even chroot into that partition to run update-initramfs -u. Still no dice.
[23:45] <drostie> where on earth does the initrd actually look up a partition and say, "hey, I want to make this my root partition." and how do I change it?
[23:48] <drostie> nevermind, I want to try something. see ya'll later, when I can better help with random peoples' queries. ^_^
[23:50] <genii> drostie: The initrd usually only would contain some driver to load which makes a partition or storage system understandable (like when you build it with raid support). I'm not sure the initrd looks up any partitions or such. That should be the purpose of specifying what root to mount in menu.lst or in fstab
[23:54] <azl3> hola
[23:55] <azl3> alguien habla español?
[23:58] <PSiL0> !es | azl3
[23:59] <noren> hi all
[23:59] <noren> i did something now i dont have any sound with any media player ... any hint or adviccce