[00:58] <evarlast> anyone use remote syslog and have the "very slow syslog" problem?
[01:45] <Tigermuss> -=[ QUESTION ]=- I have a server with need to install an OS that can be run on IA64. I can only find Hardly in this version, do you guys know if there is a 8.10 version to be run on AI64? -=[ QUESTION ]=-
[01:46] <sommer> not 100% sure, but will amd64 run on ia64?
[01:48]  * jmedina preferes to run hardy on servers
[01:48] <Tigermuss> nope, its a different architechture... what confuses me is that there is a doc for installation 8.10 on IA64 but no download for it
[01:48] <Tigermuss> jmedina, okai, so should just get the hardy one and go ahead?
[01:50] <jmedina> Tigermuss: I prefere hardy because is LTS, I dont want to upgrade every six months and see what happens, I prefer something stable
[01:50] <Tigermuss> ahh i see
[01:50] <sommer> heh, I like adventure
[01:50] <jmedina> Tigermuss: xeon cpus?
[01:51] <Tigermuss> Itanium 2
[01:51] <jmedina> :O
[01:51] <jmedina> never installed on Itanium
[01:52] <Tigermuss> well the IA64 should be for that kind of system
[01:53] <jmedina> I see no intrepid for IA64
[01:53] <jmedina> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/hardy/release/
[01:53] <jmedina> there is for hardy
[01:53] <Tigermuss> yes i saw that too, but i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/ia64/pr01.html
[01:55] <jmedina> Tigermuss: HP systems?
[01:55] <Tigermuss> yes rx2600
[01:55] <Tigermuss> HP Integrity rx2600
[01:56] <jmedina> Tigermuss: any reason to use intrepid?
[01:56] <Tigermuss> nope, just testet with that prior to getting this machine, but didn
[01:56] <Tigermuss> t
[01:56] <Tigermuss> look into if the iso actuly was availble
[01:57] <Tigermuss> just read it was supported
[02:05] <jmedina> Tigermuss: looks that the guide it is just a copy of x86 guide
[02:06] <jmedina> there is no ia64 specific information
[02:06] <Tigermuss> yes there is https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/ia64/ch05s01.html
[02:06] <Tigermuss> dont know that many others that have EFI bootmanager
[02:08] <Tigermuss> but i think its a copy of the manual for hardy, just changed the refferce to hardy to intrepid
[02:13] <jmedina> Tigermuss: well everything points to haryd :D
[02:14] <Tigermuss> have downloaded it and way ahead on installing it ;)
[02:22] <Tigermuss> jmedina: what ftpd what you suggest for ubuntu?
[02:24] <sommer> vsftpd is quite good
[02:25] <Tigermuss> easy to configurate?
[02:27] <sommer> yeppers, the latest serverguide has pretty good coverage
[02:27] <sommer> well for jaunty anyway :)
[02:28] <Tigermuss> im pretty new to linux... so something like sudo apt-get vsftpd should do it right?
[02:29] <sommer> yep, then depending on what you want to ftp, anoymous download is enabled by default, but ftp to home directories is easy to configure
[02:29] <Tigermuss> only want to home dirs
[02:30] <sommer> quite simple... see /etc/vsftpd.conf
[02:30] <Tigermuss> okai
[02:31] <sommer> once you have it installed, if you have further questions should be able to find an answer here
[02:31] <sommer> or in the man pages :)
[02:32] <Tigermuss> okai just a simple one, howdo i restart the vsftpd ?
[02:32] <sommer> /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[02:33] <sommer> /etc/init.d/service_name is pretty standard for linux
[02:33] <Tigermuss> thank you, it should work now i will test ;)
[02:33] <sommer> np
[02:34] <Tigermuss> hmm have disable the anonymos thing, but can still login with anonymous
[02:38] <sommer> you set anonymous_enable=NO ? and restarted vsftpd?
[02:38] <Tigermuss> my bad, i just commented it out, witch dont do anything, just changed it to NO and works like a charm ;)
[02:39] <sommer> heh ya, since the default is to allow download it needs to be set
[02:40] <Tigermuss> i figured out hehe ;)
[02:40] <sommer> but it downloads from the ftp user's home directory so if there
[02:40] <Tigermuss> okai
[02:40] <sommer> 's nothing there it shouldn't be a big problem
[02:40] <sommer> but better to disable if not needed :)
[02:41] <Tigermuss> dont want anyone in thats no intended for it ;)
[02:42] <sommer> sure
[03:21] <infomomo> hello users :D
[03:23] <infomomo> do we have solution to update ubuntu-server ?
[03:26] <sommer> yes
[03:27] <infomomo> cool
[03:27] <infomomo> what is it :D
[03:27] <sommer> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:27] <infomomo> thats what i did :D
[03:27] <infomomo> LOL :D
[03:27] <infomomo> great
[03:28] <infomomo> latest kernel for server is 2.6.27-7-server
[03:28] <infomomo> uname -r
[03:28] <sommer> sounds about right
[03:29] <infomomo> cool
[03:29] <infomomo> am running it in vmware
[03:29] <infomomo> learning the ropes
[03:29] <sommer> :)
[03:37] <Tigermuss> sommer, have you any experience with gaming servers?
[03:38] <infomomo> my buddy runs WoW server
[03:38] <sommer> no not too much... played around with l4d a while back. but nothing serious
[03:38] <infomomo> P4 1 Gb ram, 30 users
[03:38] <infomomo> no lag :D
[03:39] <steelcityjim> is jmarsden around
[03:40] <Tigermuss> well i have to setup an AAO server... but everytime i try to run ./server-bin XXXXXX i just say "-bash: ./sever-bin: no such file or directory"... and i have chmod +ux
[03:41] <Tigermuss> chmod u+x*
[03:41] <steelcityjim> is sudo useradd XXX  # my command for adding a user
[03:47] <Tigermuss> sommer / infomomo any suggestions?
[03:48] <infomomo> am not linux guru
[03:49] <Tigermuss> okai, bummer :/
[03:51] <twb> useradd is a low-level command; I recommend you use adduser instead.
[03:51] <steelcityjim> does useradd give access to everything?
[03:52] <steelcityjim> or adduser I should say
[03:52] <hads> access to?
[03:53] <steelcityjim> or it just adds and then I have to set the permissions?
[03:54] <tsrk> how do I install cgi for apache?
[03:56] <Tigermuss> everytime i try to run ./server-bin XXXXXX i just say "-bash: ./sever-bin: no such file or directory"... and i have chmod u+x server-bin.... any suggestions??
[03:57] <hads> Check your spelling :)
[04:00] <Tigermuss> just here i spelled it wrong
[04:59] <foomanshoe> think anyone could entertain a question with Ubuntu server and Samba
[05:02] <ScottK> Your odds go up if you ask the question.
[05:02] <owh> Entertain, you mean with drinks and music?
[05:02] <foomanshoe> lol, sorry just read the whole topic "just ask"
[05:02] <foomanshoe> I have my samba server up and running
[05:02] <foomanshoe> I have a user account that works
[05:03] <foomanshoe> and it's setup to allow guests as well
[05:03] <owh> works in samba, or works in linux?
[05:03] <foomanshoe> both
[05:03] <owh> Carry on...
[05:03] <foomanshoe> i want guests to just have read writes and my user to have read/write
[05:04] <foomanshoe> I can't seem to find a straight answer via google, maybe i'm reading over it.
[05:05] <owh> Uh, do you mean: "i want guests to just have read *rights* and my user to have read/write"
[05:05] <foomanshoe> yes, sorry i've been on my computer to long
[05:06] <jmedina> foomanshoe: use "write lists"
[05:06] <owh> foomanshoe: Well, the guest user for samba is a user too. In fact you can just map the user to a linux user and assign privileges accordingly. Not only that, you can set privileges for a samba user within smb.conf IIRC.
[05:08] <jmedina> foomanshoe: allow guest access "guest ok = yes" and then grant write acccess to some users o a group using "wirte list = user1, user2, @group"
[05:08] <foomanshoe> trying now
[05:12] <Tigermuss> anyone have a suggestion to how i install Xen on a Ubuntu 8.04 IA64?
[05:14] <foomanshoe> jmedina: thank you it worked like a charm
[05:14] <jmedina> good
[05:14] <foomanshoe> owh: I'm going to start reading about setting guest up as a user and controlling read/write via folder permissions
[05:14] <jmedina> Tigermuss: isn't packaged?
[05:15] <foomanshoe> thank you for the help everyone
[05:16] <Tigermuss> jmedina: well when i try to do apt-get install ubuntu-xen-server it sais the package isn't there, but when i search for it is there, but only as amd and x86
[05:16] <owh> Well, at least it's not lying then :)
[05:16] <jmedina> I'm not sure if is supported upstream
[05:21] <Tigermuss> could someone please guide me through this, cause i cant seem to use ANY make command
[05:23] <owh> Tigermuss: Given the time of the day, I would either wait another six hours or so at least - until soren is back, otherwise, send an email to ubuntu-server and he'll pick it up there.
[05:23] <Tigermuss> thank you, i'll do that ;)
[06:46] <foomanshoe> after I change my port in ssh_config and restart ssh, I'm getting connection refused (ssh is still running on 22 however my ssh command is now defaulting to the changed port number) any ideals on fixing this?
[06:57] <foomanshoe> I figured it out I'm going to bed. I was editing ssh_config and neeed to be editing sshd_config. Thanks for the previous help, night
[06:57] <foomanshoe> exit
[08:29] <soren> Tigermuss: To the best of my knowledge, we don't offer Xen on IA64. We definitely don't support it (since ia64 isn't a supported platform, but one of the community ports).
[08:58] <mpathy> Hi there.. Somebody knows how I get already recieved mails trough my new sieve (that also the older mails get sorted in the right subfolders)?
[09:42] <Scix> Good morning from norway :)
[09:42] <soren> o/
[09:43] <Scix> I followd this guide to setup autofs-ldap https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutofsLDAP, but when i try to start autofs I'm getting this error: no automount maps defined.
[09:44] <Scix> I aslo configured /etc/default/autofs to use LDAP
[09:55] <Scix> Is it something spesial regarding to Ubuntu 8.10 and the new way of configuring OpenLDAP?
[10:02] <soren> Scix: Not sure. I don't use autofs myself.
[10:03] <Scix> soren: What do you use? If any ... )
[10:08] <soren> Scix: Nothing like that :)
[10:11] <incorrect> I have a suggestion,  why isn't the default logrotate set to use dates rather than 1,2,3 etc ?
[10:17] <gate_keeper_> hi guys, is it possible to setup dhcp load-balancing or failover with more then 2 servers?
[10:17] <henkjan> just configure 3 dhcp to handout the same dhcppool
[10:18] <henkjan> client asks for an ipadress. all servers will reply. client acks the first. all servers will register the broadcasted ack from the client
[10:19] <henkjan>  works like a charm
[10:20] <gate_keeper_> i see
[10:20] <gate_keeper_> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDHCPload-balancingFailover
[10:20] <gate_keeper_> probably will work with this setup
[10:20] <gate_keeper_> :/
[10:21] <gate_keeper_> reconfigure
[10:22] <henkjan> gate_keeper_: you don't need to configure dhcpd.failover
[10:23] <gate_keeper_> hmm
[10:24] <gate_keeper_> u mean without it, i can't add more then 2 servers
[10:24] <gate_keeper_> anyways if 1 of them goes down, other one will accept the clients requests
[10:25] <gate_keeper_> after reboot
[10:26] <gate_keeper_> there are some balancing options in dhcp.failover .. :/
[10:30] <henkjan> hmm
[10:46] <Tigermuss> soren: Hi there, i was asked earlier to talk to you about Ubuntu Server for ia64.... Do you have any experience in installing Xen or simular for this processor specific system?
[11:12] <soren> Tigermuss: And i responded 3 hours ago :)
[11:12] <soren> 08:30:12 < soren> Tigermuss: To the best of my knowledge, we don't offer Xen on IA64. We definitely don't support it (since ia64 isn't a supported platform, but one of the  community ports).
[11:13] <soren> Tigermuss: I've never worked with IA64 myself. I do happen to know, though, that kvm runs on ia64. You need to compile it yourself from git, though.
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> I thought Xen was x86 only?
[11:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. guess ia64 does x86 emulation
[11:15] <soren> Kamping_Kaiser: No, Xen isn't x86 only.
[11:16] <soren> There's ports to at least ARM and ia64 as well. I have no idea about the state of them, but I know that some work has been put into it.
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> I might have another look at it then
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks for the info
[11:16]  * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if it works on alpha yet
[11:18] <soren> No idea. I don't know if it *works* on ia64 or arm.
[11:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe, yeap. the 'its not intel' problem
[11:21] <soren> ia64 is Intel :)
[11:22] <soren> don't tell anyone I said this, but I'm not even sure I'd say it works on x86 :)
[11:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> hahaha.
[11:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> problem with having alpha/sparc/ia32 (with a possible addition of an amd64) as your options for buildds is you /need/ virtualisation that works on all, or no virtualisation :/
[11:32] <Tigermuss> Soren: sooorry, didn't see it through all the join/disconnect ;)
[11:32] <Tigermuss> Soren: do you have any suggestion to what i should install as OS to get some virtulisation running? ;)
[11:34] <soren> Tigermuss: On IA64?
[11:35] <soren> 11:13:31 < soren> Tigermuss: I've never worked with IA64 myself. I do happen to know, though, that kvm runs on ia64. You need to compile it yourself from git, though.
[11:37] <Tigermuss> Soren: yeas on IA64.... i got so for with the Xen wiki http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenIA64/HowTo but there are some compile errors and can't get EFI bootmanager to load elilo with the right settings... i might just end up with a Windows 2008 box instead, just trying to get arround it
[11:37] <SmokeyD> hey people. I want to give multiple people sftp access to my server, but restrict them to their home folder and also restrict them to sftp only, no ssh access. I want everyone to have different home folders and accounts. Anyone have recommendations on which approach to take?
[11:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> try libpam-chroot
[11:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> there might even be libpam- ssh specific stuff too
[11:42] <soren> SmokeyD: scponly - Restricts the commands available to scp- and sftp-users
[11:42] <soren> SmokeyD: oh, sorry, I misread your question.
[11:43] <SmokeyD> soren: if I understood right, scponly is nice if you want to have just one account, but not for multiple users right?
[11:43] <soren> SmokeyD: I believe it's meant to restrict people from logging in over ssh, but still have scp and sftp access.
[11:45] <soren> ...but it doesn't do anything to restrict people to their home directories, I think.
[11:45] <soren> Tigermuss: I don't know how to express it any clearer.. I would try with kvm on IA64.
[11:45] <soren> Not Xen.
[11:46] <soren> KVM. It's a different hypervisor.
[11:46] <SmokeyD> soren: yes ok, but is it aimed at doing that once for one account, or for multiple users.
[11:46] <SmokeyD> soren: their own website says: "A typical usage of scponly is in creating a semi-public account not unlike the concept of anonymous login for ftp.
[11:46] <soren> SmokeyD: You create a user (or 27) and set their shell to scponly.
[11:47] <soren> ...and then they can't do anything but scp and sftp.
[11:47] <Tigermuss> Soren, i reading on it right now, but kvm for ia64 i still a port, and the sourceforge site is rather "spammed", so cant really fint what i want ;)
[11:47] <soren> Tigermuss: Xen of ia64 isn't considered a port?
[11:48] <soren> "Xen on ia64", I mean.
[11:48] <Tigermuss> Soren: as far as i can read here.. http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki/ia64_list?highlight=%28Category+ia64%29
[11:48] <soren> SmokeyD: If you want to use it for a shared account, that's up to you. scponly doesn't care, AFAICT.
[11:48] <Tigermuss> Soren: From denmark?
[11:48] <soren> yes
[11:49] <Tigermuss> Soren: okai, any rules in here about it should be in english? ;)
[11:49] <soren> Yes :)
[11:49] <soren> Less so in #ubuntu-dk. :)
[12:19] <DelphiWorld> hi ubuntu server community
[12:19] <DelphiWorld> please: ho to connect to internet using a PPP Dialer ?
[12:28] <SmokeyD> DelphiWorld: search on google.
[12:28] <SmokeyD> DelphiWorld: first hit: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntugeek.com%2Fsetting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html&ei=RK2aSeSdJI-Y-gbzj_z6CA&usg=AFQjCNG_mbB6tHz2L8KkT958wrceWB-hCw&sig2=99-gdMEyFbjelgI_4JQgsw
[12:29] <PecisDarbs> anyone knows if it is possible to use EVMS volume as root partition on Ubuntu Server 8.04?
[12:30] <PecisDarbs> it means initrd should contain evms tools
[12:32] <DelphiWorld> ubottu: adsl
[12:34] <PecisDarbs> ubottu: evms
[12:34] <PecisDarbs> ubottu: EVMS
[12:35] <Scix> I have a autofs-ldap problem on my new servers. Could anyone help me with this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1072228
[12:38] <rozilla> how do i add a static route? i'm got an 8.04 firewall server with an internal IP of 172.20.* and one of the clients on that LAN serves as a firewall server for a subnet (10.20.*). i can ssh in and out of 10.20.*, in can lookup, but i can't ping a 172.20. addr from inside the 10.20. subnet. and i can't access the web from the 10.20.
[12:38] <rozilla> i'm using firehol, squid and powerdns
[12:40] <DelphiWorld> please any screen reader for the command line interface ?
[12:40] <soren> DelphiWorld: Screen reader? You mean for blind people?
[12:41] <DelphiWorld> soren: yes, exactly
[12:41] <DelphiWorld> soren: any solution ?
[12:42] <soren> DelphiWorld: No idea.
[12:42] <soren> DelphiWorld: You could ask TheMuso. He tends to know these kinds of things.
[12:42] <soren> DelphiWorld: He's in Australia, so he's probably asleep right now, though.
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> unless hes hacking late, but it is a weeknight :)
[12:43] <DelphiWorld> please try to help my friends about ubuntu server accessibility
[12:46] <dmacnutt> DelphiWorld: i found a thread that might have some ideas
[12:47] <dmacnutt> DelphiWorld: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-December/168334.html
[12:47] <dmacnutt> something to do with redirecting the serial console and pushing that out to the reader
[12:49] <DelphiWorld> dmacnutt: thanks
[13:32] <waver_> soren are you there?
[13:34] <bigbrovar> Scix: replied your thread
[13:35] <waver_> Sun Fire X4150 Server (Intel) is a certified server by Ubuntu
[13:35] <waver_> I did a test on 6 servers and it hangs without any reason
[13:36] <waver_> Someone should update the page because there's something wrong between the new Intel CPU 5450 and motherboard/memory. I send back one server to SUN to do some more debug
[13:38] <ivoks> hi there :)
[13:40] <henkjan> waver_: ask Jeeves__ here. Maybe he has experience with that machine (but he's mostly an AMD fan :) )
[13:40] <Jeeves__> intel sucks
[13:40] <ivoks> http://www.drbd.org/mc/management-console/
[13:40] <henkjan> :)
[13:40] <Jeeves__> we only do the 4140, 4240 and other amd boxes
[13:41] <waver_> The install is ok, everything was ok related to Ubuntu. But the machine hangs without doing any stress ;)
[13:41] <waver_> Jeeves_>  I have an 4140 and work fine
[13:41] <ivoks> memory?
[13:41] <waver_> Ah no
[13:41] <waver_> there's a problem with nvidia chipset :P
[13:41] <waver_> Forcedepth driver
[13:42] <waver_> but it's not a big problem until now
[13:42] <ivoks> server with nvidia chipset?
[13:42] <waver_> too many iterations (6) in nv_nic_irq.
[13:42] <ivoks> who produces servers like that?
[13:42] <waver_> Yep 4140
[13:42] <ivoks> 4140?
[13:42] <ivoks> like... sun? dell? hp?
[13:42] <Jeeves_> ivoks: Not much wrong with that chipset
[13:42] <waver_> Sun
[13:43] <waver_> Yoiu tell me that you test the 4140
[13:43] <Jeeves_> ivoks: Almost all Sun's carry that chipset
[13:43] <waver_> it's a sun machin
[13:43] <waver_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTestingTeam/SunFireX4140
[13:43] <waver_> As you can see on my test, it has a nvidia chipset
[13:43] <waver_> And I choose the 4150 because it's not a nvidia chipset for the network
[13:44] <waver_> But 6 servers down after 5 min ;)
[13:44] <waver_> SUN is on a bad situation. He's looking this case
[13:45] <ivoks> i didn't like desktops with nvidia chipset, i can't imagine having a server with nvidia chipset
[13:45] <ivoks> but, that's me, i could be wrong, maybe it's the best chipset in the world
[13:45] <waver_> I want only to inform that like it's mentioned on the ubuntu page. This server should not be certified until sun provide a fix
[13:47] <waver_> I will go to do some more test. I can't imagine that there's no log for the error from the OS or from the ILOM.
[13:47] <waver_> I will install Solaris to see if I can reproduce this bug
[13:47] <waver_> see u folks
[13:50] <domas> wver_: it is forcedeth problem
[13:50] <domas> waver_: it is mentioned in product notes
[13:50] <domas> product notes say, either do 'pci=nomsi' boot option
[13:50] <domas> or increase interrupt count
[13:50] <domas> (what is done on newer linux kernels, 2.6.27 or so)
[13:51] <domas> I just upgraded kernels, and see no crashes atm
[13:51] <domas> I've been hanging around with that problem for few months here
[13:51] <domas> until I took sun server's product manual
[13:51] <domas> and it explained the issue :)
[13:52]  * domas points to http://docs.sun.com/source/820-2396-14/OSIssues.html#50589754_48533
[13:54] <soren> waver_: Which version of Ubuntu did you try?
[13:56] <waver_> soren>  Ubuntu 8.04.2
[13:57] <waver_> I have one server with the last BIOS/SP firmware that handle my stress test
[13:57] <waver_> The 5 servers with same version of firmware die immediatly after some minute
[13:58] <waver_> domas>  thanks for the info
[13:59] <waver_> domas> I will try this. I'm runing 2.6.24-21-server on this X4140. Next time when I restart it I will try this boot option
[13:59] <domas> waver_: I have bunch of fully loaded X4240s that all hit this issue
[13:59] <domas> it helped me though I still had hangs
[13:59] <domas> I just use 2.6.28.2 kernels now
[14:00] <waver_> domas>  sorry
[14:01] <domas> though my workloads were filling GE, and doing >150MB/s i/o
[14:01] <domas> :)
[14:01] <waver_> but i just check cat /etc/modprobe.d/options
[14:01] <waver_> and i have this option :P
[14:01] <waver_> And still get this error message
[14:01] <incorrect> I am building a server with an encrypted partition,  the problem is that there is no remote management so when the system boots it waits for the encryption key to be typed in,
[14:01] <waver_> # forcedeth
[14:01] <waver_> options forcedeth max_interrupt_work=20
[14:01] <domas> ghm
[14:01] <domas> strange that you hit stalls then
[14:01] <incorrect> I would like to allow the system to boot but not try and unlock the disk
[14:01] <domas> do it like I did, just get vanilla kernel, copy in ubuntu config, make-kpkg, and deploy new deb
[14:01] <domas> :)
[14:02] <domas> waver_: I'm not sure how much pci=nomsi helps
[14:02] <domas> waver: btw, did you do mkinitrd after you added that to /etc/modprobe.d/options? :)
[14:02] <ivoks> incorrect: add sshd to initramfs
[14:02] <ivoks> incorrect: you can't boot system wihtout reading the disk
[14:03] <waver_> domas>  I think so
[14:03] <incorrect> ivoks, its only a partition, not /
[14:03] <ivoks> incorrect: then add noauto to /etc/fstab
[14:03] <domas> waver_: anyway, I didn't have much of crashing with 2.6.28, just one machine bailed out, but probably because of different reasons, got some MCEs logged there
[14:03] <incorrect> ivoks, that doesn't stop the system from trying to unlock the disk
[14:03] <ivoks> oh
[14:03] <domas> waver_: did I say how much I hate computers? :)
[14:04] <waver_> domas>  this server is using a heavy I/O AoE so ...
[14:04] <domas> waver_: AoE? :) Area of Effect?
[14:04] <waver_> 15:04:04 up 79 days
[14:04] <waver_> RX bytes:803069421206 (747.9 GB)
[14:04] <waver_> TX bytes:3545757532192 (3.2 TB)
[14:04] <domas> waver: the problem is when you have heavy disk i/o + heavy network i/o
[14:04] <waver_> AoE: Ata over ethernet
[14:04] <domas> haha, you can see I play wow sometimes ;-)
[14:05] <waver_> ^^
[14:05] <domas> damn, ata over ethernet
[14:05] <domas> where the heck is world going
[14:05] <waver_> :D
[14:05] <domas> waver: well, now that you didn't restart for 79 days, I'd call that stable! :)
[14:05] <domas> I was hitting the problem whenever was filling gigabit interfaces :)
[14:06] <waver_> Yes but I don't force all the traffic to this server :o
[14:06] <domas> though your stats don't show heavy i/o
[14:06] <ivoks> incorrect: i never used that feature of ubuntu-server, so i don't know all the details, but you could take a look at the service that asks for password
[14:06] <domas> thats just half a meg a second
[14:06] <domas> ;-)
[14:07] <ivoks> incorrect: and, if possible, configure it or disable it's auto-start
[14:07] <incorrect> ah! you can put a timeout
[14:07] <domas> waver: 20 days here, and it is quite idle server:           RX bytes:1745411503284 (1.5 TB)  TX bytes:2052170952643 (1.8 TB)
[14:07] <waver_> domas>  because it's only a failover server when the first one is overloaded ^^
[14:07] <domas> haha
[14:07] <domas> :)
[14:07] <domas> what the heck do you do with ata over ethernet?
[14:08] <waver_> cache and db ^^
[14:08] <domas> *shrug*
[14:08] <domas> I don't need AoE for my DBs
[14:08] <domas> :)
[14:10] <waver_> I test a lot of DAS/NAS/SAN from dell but a NAS with AoE it's really the paradise ^^
[14:10] <waver_> Even for me it's fast than a Fiber SAN
[14:10] <domas> I just use internal disks ;-)
[14:10] <domas> X4240s with 16 disks each \o/
[14:10] <Jeeves_> domas: The 7110 is cool too
[14:11] <waver_> I can't do this
[14:11] <domas> Jeeves_: you can't run your software on 7xxx'ies
[14:11] <domas> Jeeves_: 7110 is same chassis as 4240
[14:11] <waver_> I need a redundancy. So other machin can mount the disk and continue the job
[14:11] <domas> I guess it was built on top of 4250
[14:11] <ivoks> waver_: use drbd
[14:11] <domas> use replication!
[14:12] <domas> meh, have to resolve one drbd issue
[14:12] <ivoks> or, even better, take care of that on application level
[14:12] <waver_> domas>  I test it. replication = problem
[14:12] <domas> why
[14:12] <waver_> You don't read about this company doing replication of db ^^
[14:12] <waver_> that lost everything lol
[14:12] <domas> which one?
[14:12] <domas> how would that happen?
[14:13] <ivoks> someone wrote DELETE *
[14:13] <ivoks> SAN won't help you there either
[14:13] <domas> well, shared disks don't guard you with that
[14:13] <ivoks> nothint will
[14:13] <domas> ivoks: I have a method
[14:13] <ivoks> nothing
[14:13] <domas> ivoks: delayed replication ;-)
[14:14] <ivoks> domas: or backups :D
[14:14] <domas> (or snapshots)
[14:14] <Jeeves_> domas: I know. We just got ourselves two 7110's
[14:14] <domas> but delayed replication is win, because it can take you five minutes to catch up with an hour of changes
[14:14] <domas> Jeeves_: yay! :)
[14:14] <ivoks> domas: so, you delay for how long?
[14:14] <domas> ivoks: an hour
[14:14] <ivoks> domas: what about if master cracks? you loose everything created in last hour
[14:15] <soren> waver_: Is there a bug report open about the bug you're experiencing with those Sun boxes?
[14:15] <domas> ivoks: no, you have binlogs on slave
[14:15] <domas> ivoks: our masters have >5 slaves each :)
[14:15] <waver_> http://journalspace.com/this_is_the_way_the_world_ends/not_with_a_bang_but_a_whimper.html
[14:15] <ivoks> domas: thehe
[14:15] <waver_> soren>  not yet. I need some confirmation from SUN
[14:16] <waver_> And I want to know who do this certification about the X4150
[14:16] <domas> Jeeves_: my dayjob is sun :)
[14:16] <waver_> And wich processor is it
[14:16] <ivoks> domas: one for redundancy and other with delayed replication?
[14:16] <domas> ivoks: mostly for read scaling
[14:16] <ivoks> of course
[14:16] <domas> it comes packed with redundancy and such too, of course
[14:16] <domas> we used to run RAID0 db masters for years
[14:16] <waver_> domas>  sorry, the article was deleted I think
[14:16] <domas> whitebox hardware
[14:17] <domas> thats one of top10 sites =)
[14:17] <waver_> http://blogs.computerworld.com/node/12756/print
[14:17] <ivoks> domas: which one?
[14:17] <ivoks> :)
[14:17] <ivoks> wikipedia?
[14:17] <ivoks> :)
[14:17] <domas> ye
[14:18] <ivoks> nice
[14:18] <bangky> nice
[14:19] <domas> Jeeves_: are you shouting at your disks too? :)
[14:19] <Jeeves_> domas: Not anymore :)
[14:19] <ivoks> :)
[14:19] <domas> it is most popular thing to do at 7xxx's
[14:20] <domas> after Brendan's video
[14:20] <bangky> Jeeves_: you're the same Jeeves_ running the opensource mirrors?
[14:20] <domas> my personal server hit some ubuntu software raid bug
[14:20] <domas> it tries resyncing, then crashes at 99.9%
[14:20] <Jeeves_> bangky: some, ues
[14:21] <ivoks> you asked about that yesterday
[14:21] <ivoks> right...
[14:21] <bangky> Jeeves_: ic, cool
[14:21] <domas> he's the guy in logo of ask.com!
[14:21] <domas> oh no, he got laid off after rebranding!
[14:22] <bangky> domas: erps..
[14:22] <domas> the sad dotcom age story =)
[14:25] <domas> so, for all the people who run DRBD, do you run heartbeat in v1 or v2 mode? :)
[14:29] <incorrect> I need to include cryptsetup in my initrd
[14:30] <ivoks> domas: i run rhcs
[14:31] <domas> mhm
[14:34] <ivoks> take care...
[14:56] <SmokeyD> hey people. I am trying to get scponly to work with a chroot jail (/usr/sbin/scponlyc as shell). Each user get's his/her own chroot jail. scponlyc is setuid root and I think all necessary libraries are in the chroot jail. After logging in though, gftp hangs.
[14:56] <SmokeyD> This is what auth.log says: http://pastie.org/391709
[14:59] <SmokeyD> ah, I found a proper debugging way, not with gftp but using scp
[15:00] <SmokeyD> now I see quite some things are still amiss :)
[15:43] <Faust-C> anyone have issues w/ ocsinventory-server?
[15:43] <Faust-C> seems the install scripts are messed up
[15:43] <Faust-C> it doesnt properly pull deps nor configure mysql
[16:09] <ivoks> mathiaz: ping
[16:09] <mathiaz> ivoks: hi
[16:09] <ivoks> mathiaz: for start; how are you? :)
[16:09] <mathiaz> ivoks: FYI: server team meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
[16:09] <ivoks> oh, right
[16:09] <mathiaz> ivoks: doing great! and you?
[16:10] <ivoks> doing fine...
[16:30] <kraut> moin
[16:56] <kaje> When a cronjob for a user runs, what scripts are run beforehand to set up the environment? (e.g. bashrc, profile, etc...)
[17:00] <ivoks> kirkland: need an intro into ipmi?
[17:00] <kirkland> ivoks: sure
[17:00] <ivoks> ipmi is just a protocol between client software and system's BMC
[17:01] <ivoks> BMC are usually hardware independet network cards which operate even when computer is offline
[17:01] <ivoks> so, you can connect to it, power on the machine, and get your self a serial interface to the machine
[17:02] <ivoks> you can enter bios, just as you are sitting in front of it
[17:02] <ivoks> there are three specifivations; impi1 impi1.5 and ipmi2
[17:02] <ivoks> ipmi2 supports SOL (serial over lan)
[17:02] <ivoks> while 1 doesn't
[17:02] <ivoks> 1.5 is a bridge between those two and depending on hardware, you can even get sol on those
[17:03] <ivoks> dell's BMC cards support IPMI
[17:03] <kirkland> gotcha
[17:03] <ivoks> intel also, supermicro too
[17:03] <ivoks> i'm not sure about hp and sun
[17:03] <kirkland> ivoks: ibm does
[17:03] <kirkland> ivoks: the bladecenters, anyway
[17:04] <ivoks> probably, it's the most common interface to bmc
[17:04] <ivoks> now, openipmi is just in kernel support for linux, so that one can use openipmi interface with ipmitool, to control system settings (boot order, sensor data, etc...)
[17:05] <ivoks> but ipmitool can also connect over wire to other servers (this doesn't have anything to do with openipmi)
[17:05] <ivoks> that's it :) short intro :D
[17:25] <ball> I missed the meeting. :-/
[17:49] <jamesrfla> so you guys have a meeting 16:00 in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:49] <jamesrfla> translated into 4PM eastern time
[17:51] <sommer> 16:00 utc, 11:00 am eastern time
[17:52] <jamesrfla> man I missed it and the only day that I would be able to attend
[20:32] <incorrect> I've got a few custom debs i need to distribute,  is there an easy way to build my own repository?
[20:33] <domas> incorrect: just put it in a launchpad ppa ;-)
[20:33] <domas> but generally, yes
[20:33] <incorrect> domas, i doubt anyone would want my debs
[20:33] <domas> hehe
[20:33] <domas> hold on
[20:34] <incorrect> i just packaged openldap 2.4.14,  it doesn't give 100% desired results
[20:34] <mathiaz> incorrect: are you building 2.4.14 with gnutls or openssl?
[20:35] <incorrect> openssl
[20:35] <domas> incorrect: lemmie share APT script for you
[20:35] <incorrect> i didn't update gnutls
[20:36] <domas> incorrect: this is what we use to build APT repos, it is a bit overweight for what you need I guess :)
[20:38] <madhatter1> Hey everyone, Im running ubuntu server 8.10 and have an external HDD (NTFS) connected. The mount seems to work just fine, but sometimes it just says I cannot connect to the device.. Restarting then remounting the drive fixes it every time, but I dont want to have to reboot every time the drive has the issues. Is there a command to perhaps ntfs-3g services or a service that deals with talking to that drive?
[20:41] <domas> incorrect: you can try 'reprepo'
[20:44] <incorrect> falcon looks good
[20:44] <incorrect> that seems what i need
[20:47] <ScottK> incorrect: FYI, falcon is broken with django 1.0, so you'll need to make sure you have (IIRC) 0.96.
[20:48] <ScottK> Patches welcome.
[21:15] <madhatter1> Hey everyone, Im running ubuntu server 8.10 and have an external HDD (NTFS) connected. The mount seems to work just fine, but sometimes it just says I cannot connect to the device.. Restarting then remounting the drive fixes it every time, but I dont want to have to reboot every time the drive has the issues. Is there a command to perhaps ntfs-3g services or a service that deals with talking to that drive?
[21:27] <rfs> hi everyone, i have a little question
[21:27] <Nafallo> !ask
[21:28] <rfs> if u could help i will be very happy
[21:28] <rfs> ok, soory
[21:28] <rfs> what is ubuntu server 8.04.2 versions root pass, icouldt't install the system
[21:28] <Nafallo> doesn't have one
[21:30] <rfs> but when booted starts gnome and when i try to do something asks root passx, i tried root:root but it didn't work
[21:30] <Nafallo> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/sudo_root.8.html
[21:30] <Nafallo> no. it asks for your password
[21:31] <jahor> rfs: are you shure that it asks for root password ? in ubu there is one basic user with sudo privileges.
[21:31] <jahor> as Nafallo says... yust try password for your nonroot user
[21:32] <rfs> i didn't mentioned, i didnt install the system yet, only booted from iso in a virtual mach
[21:32] <rfs> ine
[21:32] <Faust-C> anyone have linux servers/workstations in a Windows environment
[21:33] <Faust-C> im in the planning stages of migrating to a domain and wonder what would be the best approach to make sure my linux servers dont get 'left behind'
[21:37] <rfs> im so sorry for inconvenience, it's all my fault, sorry again
[23:14] <Voltron> !apache
[23:17] <genii> Odd that !apache seems to just link to generalised LAMP factoid
[23:18] <Voltron> !security
[23:18] <Voltron> !firewall
[23:19] <Voltron> !server
[23:42] <Voltron> how can i add mod_security to my apache installation on ubuntu?
[23:44] <ScottK> Voltron: What release are you running?
[23:44] <Voltron> Hardy Heron desktop edition but with no GUI or anything
[23:45] <ScottK> Mod security got removed from Debian/Ubuntu repositories due to licensing problems.  These just got fixed.  I don't recall if Hardy still had it or not.
[23:45] <Voltron> ohhh ok
[23:46] <genii> ScottK: Apt-cache search on my 8.04 box shows not there
[23:46] <Voltron> so if its fixed now, what repo will it be in?
[23:46] <ScottK> Jaunty
[23:46] <maxb> rmadison libapache2-mod-security only finds anything in dapper
[23:47] <maxb> did it come back with a different source package name?
[23:47] <ScottK> Still needs New
[23:47] <maxb> ah
[23:51] <Voltron> So I need to wait until Jaunty comes out to use mod_security?
[23:52] <ScottK> Or ask for a backport
[23:52] <ScottK> !backports > Voltron
[23:54] <Voltron> !backport
[23:55] <Voltron_> Jaunty seems to give me VERY poor network performance on my laptop