[00:00] <Ne0n_Lightz> myrddian: wow :o
[00:00] <newbie2345435> hi
[00:00] <myrddian> Anybody from Canonical?
[00:00] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: i'm pretty sure both do
[00:00] <Nehal> if i run a command with 'mycommand &' , how do i know the job number of this command if i run it from a script?
[00:00] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: google it
[00:00] <myrddian> Because have you seen their License they pretty much have placed an EULA on that distro
[00:00] <jj_galvez> G-Blunted: right, as long as it not the partician with Grub :)
[00:00] <Ne0n_Lightz> marqueed: ............................................. okay.
[00:01] <myrddian> restricting installs to 3 systems using Ubuntu (GPL) as a base
[00:01] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: i'm pretty sure both do
[00:01] <hlm> I dont have an ubuntu splash screen (loading) but I can switch and see text, whats wrong with it?
[00:01] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: why so many dots?
[00:01] <tonylthornton> I want to wipe my ntfs external drive, can i do this?
[00:02] <unop_> Nehal, you shouldn't work with job numbers in a script ( i don't think you can even work with them in scripts ) --- use a PID instead.   mycommand & mypid=$!
[00:02] <hlm> I dont have an ubuntu splash screen (loading) but I can switch and see text, whats wrong with it?
[00:02] <Ne0n_Lightz> marqueed: because thats the cool meter for myself. as you can see, im quite cool.
[00:02] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[00:02] <jj_galvez> tonylthornton: use gparted
[00:02] <Ne0n_Lightz> and this imagic os thing is really dumb imo.
[00:02] <tonylthornton> gparted keeps all the data, i want to clean the harddrive
[00:02] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: so it sounds like the 9300 has 3D, 8300 doesn't
[00:02] <newbie2345435> can someone please tell me how to forward ports to vmware? i can't see any incoming connections in guest
[00:03] <Ne0n_Lightz> marqueed: im just worried about that drivers.. in the past, when i install them, i cant get gui after reboot.
[00:03] <Nehal> unop_: i see. thanks
[00:03] <hlm> I dont have an ubuntu splash screen (loading) but I can switch and see text, whats wrong with it?  when I use the command sudo usplash nothing is displayed and my resolution changes to 720*400 70hz
[00:03] <Ne0n_Lightz> why did you direct me to a thing about ati cards
[00:03] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: give it a try on live cd
[00:03] <SportChick> what's a good gui-based irc client for ubuntu?
[00:03] <_igel__> hi
[00:03] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: i thought you meant Radeon 9300/8300?
[00:03] <newbie2345435> pidgin
[00:03] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: do you mean an Inspiron?
[00:03] <Ne0n_Lightz> nvidia..
[00:04] <jj_galvez> SportChick: Chatzilla
[00:04] <_igel__> my new processor reaches 60 C temp. is that OK or too much?
[00:04] <_igel__> it does reach it under load
[00:04] <newbie2345435> SportChick: pidgin
[00:04] <tonylthornton> I want to wipe my ntfs external drive, can i do this?
[00:04] <SportChick> newbie2345435: pidgin is a terrible choice for irc
[00:04] <newbie2345435> why?
[00:04] <hlm> _igel__, yes, thats normal
[00:04] <_igel__> newbie2345435: use irssi
[00:04] <nightrid3r> SportChick kvirc
[00:04] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: oops, you'd already said nvidia i guess
[00:04] <SportChick> newbie2345435: it's IM-based and doesn't utilize many of the functions of irc
[00:04] <ninux> Hello! can anyone help me with  NoMachine NX Server?
[00:04] <tonylthornton> jj_galvez, you said to use gparted, but it doesnt wipe the drive, how can i wipe the drive, such as a low-level format would do
[00:04] <Ne0n_Lightz> yep.
[00:05] <_igel__> ok, so anything under 70°C is OK I guess?
[00:05] <SportChick> thanks, nightrid3r - I'll have himm look at that
[00:05] <rootcut> Hi, my wireless signal seems to be much weaker on Ubuntu Intrepid. I get a much poorer signal than on my Windows laptop, even sitting in the same position, and signal is at half even if laptop is right next to router .. any ideas ?
[00:05] <hlm> tonyyarusso, gparted gives you the option to DELETE partitions
[00:05] <jj_galvez> tonylthornton: I would remove the partician and then just recreate it, or you can reformat it
[00:05] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: it *should* work, try a livecd first to check on it, you'll need to add the restricted drivers
[00:05] <Guest1920> is anyone out there super smart
[00:05] <Ne0n_Lightz> marqueed: so i can test it on the livecd? i didnt know that
[00:06] <tonylthornton> jj_galvez: this seems to have no effect, i've delted it, but the data still remains
[00:06] <hlm> Guest1920, whats 'smart'?
[00:06] <newbie2345435> lol
[00:06] <tonylthornton> jj_galvez: and i'm trying to format it...
[00:06] <hlm> !pm>Guest1920
[00:07] <marqueed> Ne0n_Lightz: sure, what i try to do unless there's an unequivocal answer on the forums or something regarding supported hardware is try it out in a store with a livecd, as a tip
[00:07] <_igel__> for my processor it seems that only two steps are available to Cool'n'Quiet on Linux, is that normal? Just 2700 Mhz and 1350Mhz
[00:07] <Ne0n_Lightz> okay well ill be back ina bit (but i hope not)
[00:07] <_igel__> I think there should be some more, right?
[00:07] <Ne0n_Lightz> if i dont come back in an hour its workin
[00:07] <hlm> neal_, best of luck!
[00:07] <hlm> Ne0,*
[00:07] <_igel__> it's a Athlon X2 7750 dual core
[00:07] <hlm> 0.0
[00:08] <Bsims> I am trying to get kde notification to use system bell and i can't any ideas
[00:08] <_igel__> so it's based on Phenom
[00:08] <hlm> I dont have an ubuntu splash screen (loading) but I can switch and see text, whats wrong with it?  when I use the command sudo usplash nothing is displayed and my resolution changes to 720*400 70hz
[00:08] <Guest81550> I'm having problems with my video driver, It's "ATI/AMD proprietary  FGLRX graphics driver" and when I play video (now that I can thanks to it) the video flashes constantly (from black to the video)
[00:09] <jelly-bean> where can i set PATH so that it will be remembered after a restart and after closing terminal?
[00:09] <hlm> is there a way to test usplash?
[00:09] <_igel__> jelly-bean: /etc/profile
[00:09] <jelly-bean> _igel__: thnx
[00:09] <horzuh> what would cause Xorg to error out when started, saying (EE) No devices detected.
[00:10] <horzuh> \n\n Fatal server error: no screens found
[00:10] <hlm> Guest1920, its best to ask questions in the channel, so if someone else has the same question they can look through the IRC logs
[00:10] <fitztrev> In a bash script, anyone know how can I read the value of a PHP constant inside a file?
[00:10] <Guest1920> when i install something on ubuntu where does it install
[00:10] <horzuh> Guest1920: depends on the package
[00:10] <askvictor> Guest1920: throughout the filesystem
[00:10] <fitztrev> Guest1920: what package?
[00:11] <kyledr> anyone know why mplayer doesn't play my video fast at all? i tried various video drivers and "gl" (opengl) is the only one that worked, but it was slooow. i have installed the ati driver, hopefully properly
[00:11] <_igel__> jelly-bean: in my cgf it looks like this: "PATH="/usr/lib/ccache/bin:${PATH}", and then the var is exported, it might be the same for you
[00:11] <jelly-bean> _igel__: once set, will i need to restart for it to take effect--or how can i test it?
[00:11] <newbie2345435> can someone please tell me how to forward ports to guest running in vmware?
[00:11] <Bsims> Guest1920 open up synaptic and browse for the package and look for installed files under properties
[00:11] <askvictor> Guest1920: the exectuable normally goes in /usr/bin, libraries in /usr/lib, config files in /etc, docs in /usr/share/doc, and various other bits elsewhere. The package manager keeps track of where things are and what to remove when uninstalling
[00:12] <hlm> will marking usplash for complete removal, then isntalling it cause problems?
[00:12] <xubuser> Hello People.
[00:12] <hlm> xubuser, hello!
[00:12] <_igel__> jelly-bean: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[00:12] <askvictor> newbie2345435: are you using host networking?
[00:12] <xubuser> I keep having this issue that totem keeps taking over file associations. out of nowhere .avi start getting associated with totem.
[00:12] <jelly-bean> _igel__: thnx. bookmarked it
[00:12] <_igel__> jelly-bean: just look for environment variables and PATH, you'll get a lot of material, it's pretty simple
[00:13] <Bsims> Is it posible to hide just the Joins in konversation?
[00:13] <newbie2345435> askvictor: i'm running vmware server under ubuntu 8.04, guest os is winxp
[00:13] <whyameye> fwiw if others are stuck getting nvidia to work, I ended up abandoning ubuntu's hardware driver system and following these directions which worked perfectly (until the next kernel update I suppose) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6654540
[00:13] <_igel__> jelly-bean: you can set it like I describend and then you need the command 'export' to make it take effect
[00:14] <askvictor> newbie2345435: if you are using host interface networking in vmware then you shouldn't need to forward ports; the guest should get an IP address on 'real' network that the host is on. If you are using NAT networking then you will need to configure VMware to forward ports.
[00:15] <newbie2345435> but my guest os has a different ip than host
[00:15] <jelly-bean> _igel__: /etc/bash.bashrc seems to have done the trick! thnx
[00:15] <newbie2345435> it's bridged networking
[00:16] <askvictor> newbie2345435: sorry, was using the terminology used in virtualbox
[00:16] <hlm> newbie2345435, AHA! that means the guest is linked directly to your connection
[00:16] <marqueed> can anyone tell me how to replace the \n and \l in /etc/issue?
[00:16] <askvictor> newbie2345435: so you want to forward ports from your router to the XP VM?
[00:16] <newbie2345435> askvictor: exactly
[00:17] <newbie2345435> hlm: but it has different internal ip
[00:17] <hlm> newbie2345435, that doesnt matter, its the way its set up
[00:17] <horzuh> (WW) Falling back to the old probe method for vesa
[00:17] <horzuh> (EE) No devices detected.
[00:17] <kyledr> is there a reason why mplayer won't play video with x11 video driver but vlc will? in general mplayer won't play video fast at all but vlc will. mplayer worked fine when i had gentoo installed
[00:17] <newbie2345435> the ports are blocked, i can't see them from outside, only browse sites
[00:17] <horzuh> why is that happening?
[00:18] <wes1> How do I do an ftp install? is there a command I can type in the boot options? I am out of blank CDs and the last one I had was a bit scratched and it seems the installation files are corupt now
[00:18] <hlm> newbie2345435, its because the 'mac address' is different
[00:18] <ninux> hello I need some help with tightvnc server ..anyone?
[00:18] <askvictor> newbie2345435: so just forward the router ports to the guest's IP (not the hosts)
[00:18] <hlm> wesl, whats your current OS?
[00:18] <DIFH-iceroot> ninux: just ask your question
[00:18] <ninux> I have installed tightvnc server... how do I start the server and how do i configure it?
[00:18] <newbie2345435> hlm:  so the packets go to the host OS instead of the guest?
[00:18] <wes1> Vista on the laptop im trying to install on
[00:19] <hlm> newbie2345435, it depends on the connection your using on the guest
[00:19] <hlm> wesl, use the WUBI installer
[00:19] <wes1> WUBI installer?
[00:19] <hlm> !wubi>wesl
[00:19] <newbie2345435> askvictor: i'm trying to use firestarter to forward the port
[00:19] <wes1> !wubi
[00:19] <wes1> I want it to format windows off
[00:19] <askvictor> newbie2345435: firestarter is running on the host?
[00:19] <wes1> will it do that
[00:20] <tlchack5> how do i change the settings in xubuntu to allow beeps in terminal (i.e. when you run the python command 'print "\a"'
[00:20] <newbie2345435> askvictor: i open the port for connection from outside and also forward it to internal ip
[00:20] <newbie2345435> askvictor: yes
[00:20] <hlm> wesl, im unsure I am thinking it will not
[00:20] <wes1> lol yeah no the failed Ubuntu install already formated the laptop
[00:20] <ninux> I have installed tightvnc server... how do I start the server and how do i configure it? and where does the actual graphics interface for vncserver go?
[00:20] <askvictor> newbie2345435: and you are forwarding the port to the guest's IP address?
[00:20] <wes1> hlm; shouldnt there be an ftp command that will install it directly from an ftp?
[00:21] <newbie2345435> yes, the same ip i see in "ipconfig"
[00:21] <Tyrath> when I try to open certain spreadsheets with macros openoffice.org3-calc quits on me
[00:21] <hlm> wesl, yest im sure there is something along those lines
[00:21] <wes1> !ftpinstall
[00:21] <hlm> wesl, AHA! I just remembered unetbootin!
[00:21] <Tyrath> basically, does anyone know a way around this problem or could someone tell me where I could find a log for openoffices crashes?
[00:21] <wes1> what is it?
[00:21] <wes1> !unetbootin
[00:22] <hlm> wesl, unetbootin is an app that installs the desktop cd to your c drive incase ou dont have any other way available, I will get the link
[00:22] <karim9> slt
[00:22] <Bsims> Tyrath: An old old trick is to start Open office in a terminal window
[00:22] <Tyrath> Bsims: already tried that and get nothing :/
[00:22] <wes1> I dont have a C drive anymore on the laptop
[00:22] <wes1> let me look through my old ubuntu cds here
[00:22] <magcius> Hmm... I have the latest nVidia drivers, but I can only get 1600x1200 max. Any ideas why?
[00:23] <hlm> wesl, do you have an operating system?
[00:23] <Bsims> Tyrath: Darn it was worth a shot
[00:23] <Tyrath> Bsims: I get some depracted error but I get that all the time anyway so that means little
[00:23] <hlm> wesl, on the pc you want to put ubuntu on?
[00:23] <wes1> not on that laptop now
[00:23] <Tyrath> Bsims: thanks for the tip though :)
[00:23] <Tyrath> !openoffice.org3
[00:23] <hlm> wesl, can you put an OS on it?
[00:23] <jasehelp> hello all
[00:23] <Tyrath> !info openoffice
[00:24] <hlm> jasehelp, hello!
[00:24] <Tyrath> ah
[00:24] <wes1> I am about to install an old ubuntu cd
[00:24] <wes1> though I just wanted ubuntu server on it :( this cd i think is kubuntu
[00:24] <Tyrath> so if I wanted a support channel for openoffice on ubuntu where would I go? here or some openoffice room?
[00:24] <hlm> wesl, thats ok, theres an app for that, its called lubi
[00:24] <Tyrath> I was thinking here would be my safest bet
[00:24] <hlm> Lubi, Linux-based Ubuntu Installer
[00:24] <gmap> anyone know if there is a interpid deb package for aptana?
[00:25] <wes1> sweet
[00:25] <marqueed> ok: i'm trying this:         system=`head -n 1 /etc/issue | sed -e 's/[(/\\n)(/\\l)]*//g'`
[00:25] <marqueed> and i'm getting Ubuntu 8.10 n
[00:25] <hlm> wesl, im not sure if you can put server edition on it yet, let me check...
[00:25] <Bsims> Tyrath: I'd also try #openoffice.org
[00:25] <Metallica_hammer> Good evening.
[00:25] <Tyrath> ok, noone can help me with that so here's another question. Would anyone know how I could get ubuntu to recognise a shared printer on a mac through wireless - ie, so I can print docs through wireless
[00:26] <Metallica_hammer> Can someone help me with a thing?
[00:26] <wes1> is kubuntu 8.04 amd, thats 64-bit right?
[00:26] <hlm> Metallica_hammer, ask the question
[00:26] <Metallica_hammer> I can't move a folder to usr/share/icons
[00:26] <Tyrath> Bsims: thanks for the channel btw
[00:26] <hlm> wesl, yes
[00:26] <wes1> Damnit that wont run on this laptop
[00:26] <wes1> lol back to the cd bin
[00:26] <DIFH-iceroot> Metallica_hammer: no, because noone knows your question
[00:26] <jrib> Metallica_hammer: why are you trying to?  Can't you use ~/.icons/?
[00:27] <Metallica_hammer> DIFH-iceroot: I appreciate your sarcasm.
[00:27] <Metallica_hammer> jrib: I have to move the folder to usr/share/icons
[00:27] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me figure out how to setup my internal mic?
[00:27] <hlm> is there a way to free my ram?
[00:27] <Metallica_hammer> According to the readme
[00:27] <whacked> Ok i need help I installed Ubuntu on a second HD by removing the cables from the Hd that contained windows, now when i boot up i not even able to see the other Hd drive under MY Computer, if i disconnect the Hd that windows is installed on i can then boot up Ubuntu,
[00:28] <whacked> also i have windows setup as master and Ubuntu HD as Slave
[00:28] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: why not using grub?
[00:28] <whacked> grub installed
[00:28] <Bsims> hlm: Why, Ram is ment to be used... if nothing else for cache
[00:29] <whacked> but does not detect windows
[00:29] <Metallica_hammer> so, jrib, any idea?
[00:29] <horzuh> whacked: of course you can't see the ubuntu drive under windows,  it's not NTFS or FAT
[00:29] <whacked> i ok
[00:29] <whacked> and
[00:29] <Bsims> Metallica_hammer: what are you trying to do?
[00:29] <hlm> Bsims, because my system is lagging and shouldnt be
[00:29] <test34> How can I uninstall sound devices that arent plugged in ? (they are still listed in the Volume control, even after reboot)
[00:29] <kouya3> does anyone here know how to change the background of the "Notification" plugin to Emesene?
[00:29] <Metallica_hammer> Bsims: I downloaded a theme and I'm (I think I am) moving the icons folder to that directory.
[00:30] <jrib> Metallica_hammer: use ~/.icons
[00:30] <Metallica_hammer> Bsims: however, I'm not allowed to do so.
[00:30] <whacked> i have set up Hd with Ubuntu as Master and windows Hd as slave and i can boot Ubuntu but not winodws present
[00:30] <Bsims> Ok so you have a folder now you want to move to usr/share/icons?
[00:30] <Metallica_hammer> Yes;
[00:30] <whacked> I cannot seem to use Cable select for some reason
[00:30] <jrib> Metallica_hammer: ~/.icons will work for your user and you won't have permissions issues
[00:30] <hlm> whacked, was the windows drive inserted during install?
[00:31] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: sata?
[00:31] <whacked> nope
[00:31] <whacked> Ide
[00:31] <dark_abyss0> my system wont play MP3s
[00:31] <dark_abyss0> can someone help?
[00:31] <Metallica_hammer> jrib: I'll try, thanks.
[00:31] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: bios is detection both?
[00:31] <nightrid3r> !mp3 | dark_abyss0
[00:31] <metham> Changing nick to an easier one, heh.
[00:31] <whacked> I think so
[00:32] <Bsims> Ok so Metallica_hammer try 'cd /path to/folder' then mv * /usr/share/icons
[00:32] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: think != know
[00:32] <whacked> I had both Hd detected when under windows only
[00:32] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: ok so bios is detecting both
[00:32] <coeus82> Hey guys, I'm thinking of buying a new laptop. Are there certain laptops tha are known to work best with Ubuntu?
[00:33] <lixun_> Lenovo
[00:33] <Voltron> Macbook
[00:33] <nightrid3r> coeus82 stay away from anything with an SIS chip
[00:33] <metham> Vaio
[00:33] <DIFH-iceroot> coeus82: asus, hp, macbook
[00:33] <hlm> how do I undo changes caused by an application?
[00:33] <DIFH-iceroot> coeus82: so everyone will tell you another notebook-name
[00:33] <whacked> i thought i should setup the Hd with Ubuntu as Master and windows HD as slave
[00:33] <whacked> which i have tried
[00:33] <DIFH-iceroot> coeus82: just look for a notebook which you like and then look about the linux-support
[00:34] <whacked> but Grub loader does not see windows
[00:34] <lixun_> \exit
[00:34] <coeus82> thanks DIFH-iceroot
[00:34] <Commie_Cary> my dvd drive has labelflash support but ubuntu dosnt reconize it what do I do
[00:34] <coeus82> I was actually looking at Acer, but I saw that they have a problem with overheating under Ubuntu :/
[00:34] <adam> hey guys, i'm upgrading my server to apache2 and i deleted all the conf files by accident, how can i restore it?
[00:34] <DIFH-iceroot> Commie_Cary: labelflash == lightscribe?
[00:35] <askvictor> what is a nice simple wysiwyg html editor for 'buntu?
[00:35] <Commie_Cary> DIFH-iceroot, diffrent things
[00:35] <DIFH-iceroot> askvictor: nvu
[00:35] <DIFH-iceroot> Commie_Cary: ok
[00:35] <Commie_Cary> they do the same stuff
[00:35] <Commie_Cary> DIFH-iceroot, they do the same thing but there diff
[00:35] <DIFH-iceroot> askvictor: compozer is it called imo know but it is still mozilla nvu
[00:35] <whacked> should the Hd with Unbuntu be master or does it matter which one ?
[00:35] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: it does not matter
[00:36] <dark_abyss0> uhhh that didnt work
[00:36] <whacked> I cannot use Cble select for some reson
[00:36] <whacked> ok thanks
[00:36] <whacked> hmm now what
[00:36] <ashvee> ash
[00:36] <whacked> i had a dual boot before with one hd partitioned
[00:37] <whacked> that was easy
[00:37] <whacked> but with 2 separate Hd i am stumped
[00:37] <paragonc_> hello - just installed ubuntu 8.10 - and it installed fine - went to swtich the resolution down- and now my screen is all garbled - i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - but my xorg.conf file looks empty
[00:38] <Voltron> Quick Poll: Vista or XP?
[00:38] <nightrid3r> Voltron ubuntu
[00:39] <whacked> I like Ubuntu
[00:39] <magcius> Voltron, you do know what channel you are in, right?
[00:39] <NFischer> Hey folks, how the hack do i download youtube videos now that those tools dont work anymore?!?!
[00:39] <magcius> NFischer, Firebug
[00:39] <paragonc_> is there a way to restore my original xorf.conf file?
[00:39] <galvanize> hi all
[00:39] <metham> www.kissyoutube.com/videothinghere
[00:39] <newbie2345435> Voltron: , use firefox
[00:39] <nightrid3r> NFischer youplayer extention for firefox
[00:39] <metham> just add kiss before youtube
[00:39] <dark_abyss0> is there any other reason I wouldent be able to play MP3s?
[00:40] <magcius> dark_abyss0, do you have the codecs?
[00:40] <whacked> I wanted to set up boot menu with F8 option
[00:40] <magcius> dark_abyss0, you need GStreamer extras - good, bad AND ugly
[00:40] <galvanize> writing a script and having an issue. I want to check whether a file has a certain line in it and if it does I want to echo something. I have tried incorporating grep in if statements but i can't seem to get anything to work. Any ideas?
[00:40] <whacked> but no luck finding solution
[00:41] <dark_abyss0> I installed the restricted extras
[00:41] <dark_abyss0> ?
[00:41] <sunset_> hello all
[00:41] <whacked> but it appears no way of avoiding Grub
[00:41] <sunset_> I cannot get streaming video with abuntu
[00:41] <whacked> i am ok with grub
[00:41] <sunset_> all I get is a black screen
[00:41] <whacked> if i could just get it to show windows
[00:42] <whacked> i can only get Grub menu if the Hd with Ubuntu is set to master
[00:42] <mhlamu> fddd
[00:42] <sunset_> can anyone help
[00:42] <keres> how do you boot from a CD on an armada m300 laptop?
[00:42] <Xavier> I rebooted my system and a message came up asking me to do a manual fsck so I typed fsck and a bunch of messages came up like i_blocks is XXX should be YYY Fix(Yes) I clicked yes and another one came up. There are were a lot then I just held y and it scrolled forever then just typed a lot of Y's ND FROZE.
[00:42] <whacked> when HD with windows is set to master all i get is just windows to load like it was the only os
[00:42] <dark_abyss0> so I HAVE to have GStreamer
[00:42] <dark_abyss0> ?
[00:42] <paragonc_> is there a way to boot gdm in a super low res?
[00:43] <wes1> xavier sounds like u have a hard drive sector issue
[00:44] <wes1> Xavier, id first reinstall Ubuntu to see that everything works
[00:44] <Xavier> wes1: What do I do to resolve?
[00:44] <keres> how do you install linux inside of a windows install without booting from the CD? this laptop is said to not boot from a CD.
[00:44] <whacked> so it appeats that i must at least set HD with Ubuntu as master and find someway to add windows to the grub list
[00:44] <douglasness> I have downloaded Ubuntu 8.10.  I need to get the files off of a Vista NTFS drive that has crashed.  I have used the commands:
[00:44] <zsquareplusc> i've lost sound.. :/ applications trying to play get stuck.  can i restart pulseaudio?
[00:44] <douglasness> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[00:44] <douglasness> sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[00:44] <douglasness> but it says that mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use.  Then I tried the force option as root and it say:
[00:44] <douglasness> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[00:44] <FloodBot2> douglasness: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <douglasness> WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile.
[00:45] <wes1> Xavier. or just reboot it a couple of times see how that does
[00:45] <Rave1_> Xavier to start with do not do a fsck on a running system
[00:45] <Xavier> wes1: Anyway I can get my files before I reinstall? I put in a 8.04 live disk I had but it didn't showthe hard drive.
[00:45] <douglasness> sorry for the flood I didnt expect that
[00:45] <Voltron> nfs or cifs? Which do you guys recommend?
[00:46] <Voltron> I am trying to decide if I should use samba to share directories with my wifes laptop, or install Unix services for windows
[00:46] <_VIM_> there's a difference of flood and tsunami ;)
[00:46] <douglasness> just trying to get it all in on one try
[00:46] <Xavier> Raver1_: I can't boot now :(
[00:47] <_VIM_> hehe
[00:47] <RJN> binarymutant,
[00:48] <askvictor> !java | Guest1920
[00:48] <RJN> how to sync data
[00:48] <douglasness> can anyone help me despite that?  What do I do after I have forced a mount and it say WARNING: Forced mount, reset  $Logfile
[00:48] <Rave1_> Xavier well try to get a live CD to to boot before you go panicing about losing files
[00:48] <austin> I just made my kubuntu deskto do this funky move whre i saw all my windows all at once...anyone know about this? i wan't to do it again
 no man, does not work
[00:48] <DIFH-iceroot> is there a way to move a running process to another cpu-core by hand? and also that ONLY this process runs on that core?
[00:48] <keres> how do you install ubuntu inside of a windows install without booting from the CD? this laptop is said to not boot from a CD.
[00:49] <Laurenceb> hi, I have a winxp partition on my machine
[00:49] <DIFH-iceroot> !wubi | keres
[00:49] <austin> anyone?
[00:49] <Laurenceb> some files are getting corrupted on there, do I have to mount at RO  ?
[00:49] <Laurenceb> how can I do this?
[00:49] <metham> austin: funky? Like, it was shaking?
[00:49] <_VIM_> wubi or Vmware, Virtualbox keres
[00:49] <austin> metham: no, i saw all my windows in a grid mode, instead of that coverflow feature
[00:50] <casina> edit /etc/fstab
[00:50] <nightrid3r> NFischer strange i use it all the time, just drag the url to the side panel
[00:50] <Xavier> Rave1_ I got the live cd to boot, have it up now. But I can't see any hard drives but my external. Do I need to do something to mount it?
[00:50] <DIFH-iceroot> Laurenceb: normally there a no problems using ntfs-3g with ntfs-partitions
[00:50] <keres> _VIM_: the laptop is crappy to run vm or vb. i need to run xubuntu directly
[00:50] <metham> austin: umm... sorry, can't help you. :(
[00:50] <Laurenceb> its FAT32
[00:50] <Fruzen> guys
[00:50] <Laurenceb> the xp partition
[00:50] <Fruzen> when I do ./confire
[00:50] <austin> metham: oh ok its cool
[00:50] <nightrid3r> NFischer then right-click and download
[00:50] <casina> @Laurenceb
[00:50] <Fruzen> ./configure
[00:50] <binarymutant> RJN, yes
[00:50] <keres> andi dont have 256mb memory on it
[00:50] <_VIM_> keres: wubi then, but it wont be a real install really
[00:50] <whacked> ok how can i format the HD that Unbuntu is installed on while in Windows ?
[00:50] <DIFH-iceroot> Laurenceb: win xp using fat32?hmmm why? but also with fat32 there are no problems
[00:50] <Fruzen> -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[00:51] <jkristheking> hey everyone!
[00:51] <Laurenceb> even if XP is hybernated?
[00:51] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: with the windows xp partition manager
[00:51] <RJN> i just add 1 HDD on my Pc and format it as ext2 .... but it doesnt appear in the computer folder. And its shows as not mounted. So to make it mounted........
[00:51] <keres> _VIM_: i cant do wubi. is there a way to copy install files off the cd into the HDD and boot from the HDD and have it instlal?
[00:51] <Rave1_> Xavier there  should be a cli way to help it mount but I do not know
[00:51] <NFischer> nightrider yeah, you are probably right for the older days... the thing is http://hothardware.com/News/YouTube-Begins-to-Kill-Off-Video-Download-Tools/
[00:51] <Fruzen> heey help me please
[00:51] <Laurenceb> I'm getting corruption whe ubuntu is booted
[00:51] <nightrid3r> keres unetbootin
[00:51] <jkristheking> ok so i need help with a bittorrent client. im trying to use deluge 1.1.2 but when i start it up it just freezes
[00:51] <whacked> thinking it might be easier to install unbuntu with Both Hd connected
[00:52] <binarymutant> RJN, pastebin your `dmesg`
[00:52] <_VIM_> keres: hmmm you should be able to do usb boot....bah nightrid3r beat me to it :)
[00:52] <whacked> and use Gparted
[00:52] <austin> foudn it, its cntrl+f9
[00:52] <douglasness> Hi my Vista NTFS hard drive crashed and I am trying to use LiveCD ubuntu 8.10 to transfer the data from the hard drive to a USB.  The USB shows up but I am unable to mount the hard drive to pull the data off.
[00:52] <DIFH-iceroot> keres: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[00:52] <RJN> wher???? binarydigit
[00:52] <RJN> wher???? binarymutant
[00:52] <Rave1_> Xavier I usually use puppylinux or slax for recovery --- smaller and faster
[00:52] <austin> Is there anyway to link key combos to mouse clicks?
[00:52] <Xavier> Anyone available to walk me through how to mount a hard drive while using the live CD?
[00:52] <Laurenceb> say I hybernate xp, then boot ubuntu, edit some files, then go back to xp
[00:52] <binarymutant> RJN, type dmesg into a terminal and pastebin all the output
[00:52] <Fruzen> please helpme!!!!!
[00:52] <binarymutant> !patience
[00:53] <Laurenceb> will the files be corrupted?
[00:53] <_VIM_> !pm | Fruzen
[00:53] <DIFH-iceroot> !mount | Xavier
[00:53] <jkristheking> can someone help me that is using the deluge bittorrent client!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:53] <NFischer> nightrider, for example.. does this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okwZUCOvEUA work for you?
[00:53] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | jkristheking
[00:53] <whacked> for a newbie would it be easier to set a dual boot with 2 separate HD using Ubuntu live Cd and Gparted App ?
[00:53] <galvanize> anybody know how to use a grep output and use it in an if statement?
[00:53] <Serraphyn> Is anyone exlse having really slow updating?
[00:53] <Fruzen> When I type: ./configure
[00:53] <asunder> What is the best way to trim an avi file? For example, I want to take out and save 15 seconds from a 10 minute clip.
[00:54] <Fruzen> -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
 I want to use the system bell as a notification on Intrepid kde 4.2 and it's not working... any ideas?
[00:54] <Fruzen> When I type: ./configure => -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[00:54] <binarymutant> !pm | RJN
[00:55] <SadHero-> !pm | RJN
[00:55] <SadHero-> !pm | SadHero-
[00:55] <binarymutant> !pastebin | RJN
[00:55] <Fruzen> !pm | fruzen
[00:56] <whacked> can some provide the script need if i have my Windows setup as master and Ubunutu and second HD set up as slave, so that when i boot i can see grub and list of both OS
[00:56] <binarymutant> RJN, next time you spam me like that I will ignore
[00:56] <SiDi> whacked, you have gparted on the livecd anyways
[00:56] <Fruzen> When I type: ./configure => -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[00:56] <RJN> !pastebin 0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb2/2-2/2-2:1.0/input/input2
[00:56] <RJN> [   29.057014] Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[00:56] <RJN> [   29.070937] input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [CHICONY Compaq USB Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2
[00:56] <RJN> [   29.071855]  sda5 >
[00:56] <RJN> [   29.072124] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[00:56] <FloodBot2> RJN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <RJN> [   29.072300] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] 160086528 512-byte hardware sectors (81964 MB)
[00:57] <Fruzen> When I type: ./configure => -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[00:57] <cpk1> is fat32 the best way to go if I want to have a partition that can be easily shared between linux and windows? or is there a better solution?
[00:57] <sgleo87> My extra mouse buttons on Logitech MX1000 stopped working yesterday. Now they are not even recognized as any button at all and xev | grep -i button gives no output. I am using the same xbindkeys config file as before....any suggestions?
[00:58] <RJN> binarymutant,
[00:58] <binarymutant> RJN, please read
[00:58] <binarymutant> !pastebin | RJN
[00:58] <RJN> okok
[00:59] <dtolj> anybody know what a valid cvs path is?
[00:59] <binarymutant> dtolj, it depends on the project
[00:59] <trippss> what is /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper?
[00:59] <mattholimeau> anyone know what channel would help me with a generic database diagram question?
[01:00] <binarymutant> mattholimeau, what db?
[01:00] <RJN> binarymutant,
[01:00] <whacked> ok bye everyone
[01:00] <RJN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/118985/
[01:00] <dtolj> binarymutant: my local one i am deploying it on viewvc and it gives me cvs not found, wrong path!
[01:00] <mattholimeau> binarymutant: no specific db - i'm just looking for a good diagram utility. visio is completely letting me down.
[01:01] <usser> dtolj, deploying cvs? if its your first versioning system i'd suggest go with svn
[01:01] <binarymutant> mattholimeau, maybe dia? but not sure if that's what your looking for
[01:01] <Voltron> I use MSPaint for my db diagrams at work
[01:01] <fearful> Do I have to msg the nickserv to log me in everytime I connect to the channel?
[01:01] <jmatrix> yo
[01:01] <binarymutant> dtolj, you have to point it to the actual cvs repo
[01:01] <mattholimeau> yeah - it has to be a little more professional than MSPaint... heh. but yes, i've done that, and mostly just hand sketches, in the past
[01:02] <jrib> fearful: usually you set your client up to do that automatically
[01:02] <nightrid3r> fearful everytime you connect to irc
[01:02] <hlm> need help, no usplash displaying still, fixing my install helps not at all :(
[01:02] <trippss> trying to (once again) figure out how to get music to play again on my system after I had to forcefully kill audacious after it stopped responding (while severe page swapping was occurring on the HD). how do I restart artsd? pulseaudio? or anything else that could be responsible?
[01:02] <fearful> jrib, how do I setup the XChat I usually used Pidgin, but I switched
[01:03] <binarymutant> RJN, the reason it's not showing up is because of the filesystem, FAT is giving errors. Reformat it to a different filesystem
[01:03] <hlm> fearful, what do you need help setting up?
[01:03] <dtolj> binarymutant: is this correct cvs://cvsServer/cvsProjectName/
[01:03] <RJN> ok
[01:03] <fearful> hlm, just so it logs me in automatically, kinda new to XChat
[01:03] <mattholimeau> binarymutant: what is "dia"? google points me to "Defense Intelligence Agency"
[01:03] <RJN> wat is the solutions
[01:03] <hlm> fearful, please use regular chat
[01:04] <hlm> fearful, go to xchat> network list
[01:04] <mattholimeau> binarymutant: nvmd, scrolled down, found it
[01:04] <binarymutant> dtolj, I'm not sure about your specifics but I would say it would be the real path like /var/cvs/repo
[01:04] <hlm> fearful, next add the networks you want with the proper buttons
[01:04] <m1dn1ght> hey guys - the default config is for my exernal USB hard drive (ntfs) to automount to /media/<label> when I plug it in - is it possible to have it mount to my /home directory instead by default?
[01:04] <hlm> fearful, 'favorite' channels are the same as 'autojoin' channels
[01:04] <binarymutant> mattholimeau, I'm not sure if that's what your looking for though
[01:05] <kerebrus> Does ubuntu support editing ntfs drives bigger than 200gb?
[01:05] <hlm> fearful, do you still require help?
[01:05] <fearful> hlm thanks got it leme restart to try
[01:05] <hlm> fearful, welcome back!
[01:06] <RJN> binarymutant, what is the solutions for this
[01:06] <fearful> hlm na didn't work I put nickserv pw but didn't logme in
[01:06] <hlm> fearful, have you registered the nick?
[01:06] <douglasness> I have finally mounted my Vista NTFS drive, but my Documents and Settings folder is blank any help with that?  I want to pull my family photos off of the crashed drive, that is why it is important.
[01:06] <fearful> hlm yes, if I type /msg nickserv identify mypw it works
[01:07] <jrib> fearful: not sure, but it should be in your connection preferences for this network
[01:07] <binarymutant> RJN, my solution would be to use ext3 instead of FAT
[01:07] <RJN> ok
[01:07] <binarymutant> RJN, you can use gparted or fdisk to reformat it
[01:07] <hlm> fearful, a common mistake is not pressing enter after typing your password into the proper box, so go to the edit setting and see if your password is there
[01:08] <fearful> hlm, do I need a server password or connect command?
[01:08] <hlm> fearful, no, that is fine left blank
[01:08] <x-ip> which is the diff ?!
[01:08] <jelly-bean> what command would i use to empty the trash using sudo? there's a file in there that won't delete cuz it says access denied
[01:08] <hlm> x-ip, what?
[01:08] <m1dn1ght> hey guys - the default config is for my exernal USB hard drive (ntfs) to automount to /media/<label> when I plug it in - is it possible to have it mount to my /home directory instead by default?
[01:09] <jmatrix> •Joker_-_• hey check out this awesome massively parallel processing design: http://www.trygve.com/furbeowulf.html
[01:09] <jrib> m1dn1ght: you don't want to use ntfs as your /home
[01:09] <_VIM_> !nickspam > satansaunt
[01:09] <fearful> hlm, yea just hitting enter for the pw workd like a charm thanks
[01:09] <hlm> fearful, no problem! glad I could help!
[01:09] <jmatrix> anyone know how good linux is at NTFS under heavy load
[01:09] <RJN> binarymutant,  i reformat it to ext3 and in the status its still shows as not mounted
[01:09] <binarymutant> jelly-bean, rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash
[01:10] <hlm> err: usplash does not work for me after a fresh install..
[01:10] <binarymutant> RJN, is it internal or external?
[01:10] <jelly-bean> binarymutant: thanks. it worked
[01:10] <RJN> internal using IDE
[01:10] <hlm> !usplash
[01:11] <binarymutant> RJN, when your done reformatting reboot I guess and then if it doesn't work *pastebin* your new dmesg to me
[01:11] <whacked1> help Disk 0 is windows and disk 1 is unbuntu but when i boot PC i dont not get Grub loader ?
[01:11] <theshadow> how can I check what wifi drivers are installed from the command line?
[01:11] <RJN> ok
[01:12] <jasehelp> brb
[01:12] <m1dn1ght> jrib: I don't want to use it as my home - I want the USB drive to mount as something like /home/m1dn1ght/usbdrive instead of /media/usbdrive
[01:12] <jmatrix> wtf
[01:12] <RJN> binarymutant,
[01:12] <jmatrix> netsplit?
[01:12] <RJN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/118989/
[01:12] <cpk1> !java
[01:12] <nkei0> heya everyone.  Has anyone had a problem with firefox not seeing files to upload into Gmail?  I can go to the folder and see my pictures, but the upload dialog doesn't see anything but the folders.
[01:13] <asunder> I'm currently using ffmpeg but I can't seem to get the audio and video to synch.
[01:13] <logan> NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[01:13] <logan>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[01:13] <logan> Where do I find that?
[01:13] <binarymutant> RJN, if you read your dmesg, it says FAT: Directory bread(block 15440) failed. You should probably change the filesystem
[01:13] <nkei0> logan was that to me?
[01:13] <Guest37807> apperently now im Guest37807.
[01:14] <Guest37807> I was logan, and no that wasnt to you
[01:14] <wyred> hi! i'm using ubuntu 2.6.24 hardy, when i apt-get install kde and execute startx i can't even get into the gui. it give an error X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X no such file or directory
[01:14] <Guest37807> Im looking for help...
[01:14] <wyred> any idea please?
[01:14] <MadMax77> how would i create an unpriveledged user for vsftpd
[01:14] <hlm> Guest29823, just ask the question
[01:14] <RJN> i already change it
[01:14] <kyledr> how can i get additional video output possibilities for programs like mplayer to use? also the existing one that works, gl, is slow. any reason?
[01:14] <RJN> but donno y it still shows like that
[01:15] <binarymutant> RJN, how do you know you changed it?
[01:15] <Guest37807> How would I navigate to the components directory of firefox?
[01:15] <Guest37807> How do I find that I have no idea where programs files are in the filesystem
[01:15] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone help me in this....when i try to create an archive file...it gives me an error saying that cannot create archive
[01:15] <Guest37807> and I can't get folders that start with a . to show up.
[01:15] <_VIM_> logan try 'locate xpti.dat' in a terminal , it shows 5 listings for me...
[01:15] <theshadow> I have a problem. I have a friends laptop that has the Arthos 5xxxx driver installed. According to the Hardware Drivers GUI the driver was "loaded but not used" so I had them deactivate and reactivate the driver. (why it did this after the reboot I don't know) but their laptop won't list any wifi AP's
[01:15] <theshadow> How can I trouble shoot this from the command line?
[01:16] <Guest37807> how do I see a folder that starts with .?
[01:16] <Guest37807> I cant get them to show up.
[01:16] <theshadow> Guest37807: ls -al
[01:16] <tsrk> how can I disable users from local logins (in the gui)?
[01:16] <hlm> Guest37807, gksudo nautilus
[01:16] <hlm> woops went a little too extreme ;)
[01:16] <limpc> any bash programmers here?
[01:16] <limpc> have an issue with this line: CIP=$( iptables -L INPUT -n --line-numbers | grep $OIP )
[01:16] <nsadmin> there might be on #bash
[01:16] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone help me in this....when i try to create an archive file...it gives me an error saying that cannot create archive
[01:17] <limpc> $CIP is always empty although it shouldnt be
[01:17] <_VIM_> limpc: try #bash
[01:17] <_VIM_> or is it ##bash
[01:17] <nsadmin> DarkKnight how exactly do you try
[01:17] <ryan__> are you trying to create an archive out of an archive
[01:17] <hlm> the room is #bash
[01:17] <_VIM_> ty hlm
[01:17] <DarkKnight> nsadmin; i just right click the folder and then select create archive
[01:18] <hlm> darkweasel, what folder is it?
[01:18] <hlm> darkk,*
[01:18] <ryan__> yes but what is the fil/folder you are trying to turn into an archive
[01:18] <hlm> -.-
[01:18] <_VIM_> !away > paragonc|away
[01:18] <Guest37807> how do i delete a file from terminal
[01:18] <nsadmin> man rm
[01:18] <ryan__> rm -r
[01:19] <theshadow> Anyone?
[01:19] <nsadmin> ryan__: he said -file-
[01:19] <ryan__> eh right ok
[01:19] <binarymutant> theshadow, do you have access to the laptop?
[01:19] <ryan__> didnt catch that
[01:19] <hlm> after attempting to edit my splash screen with startupmanager, I no longer GET a bootscreen, how do I fix this?
[01:19] <nsadmin> he should read the man page probably
[01:19] <Digitalcheffe> hello
[01:19] <binarymutant> hlm, did you install from a different iso?
[01:19] <theshadow> binarymutant: yea command line only. I'm ssh'd in
[01:20] <TiZ> Hi. I really, really, like the oxygen look for KDE. But I really like gnome, too. Would it be advisable to use the GTK-QT engine to get it? Would it also be advisable to use kwin in gnome to complete the look?
[01:20] <RJN> after i finish format it
[01:20] <RJN> i just right click and check on the information
[01:20] <binarymutant> theshadow, can you pastebin this command `iwconfig` and possibly `dmesg`
[01:20] <Digitalcheffe> How do i get my IP address to stay static when i reboot
[01:20] <Digitalcheffe> it always goes be to dhcp
[01:20] <wes1> ok I have windows up on this crap laptop, out of blank cds so im kind of screwed there, I need to get ubuntu installed however
[01:20] <DarkKnight> hlm, nsadmin; i am backing up my system because i wanted to format it...so i creating archive and putting it in my pen drive... i am creating archive for a folder containing movies and another folder containing games setup files
[01:21] <_VIM_> Tiz if you just want the "Look" of KDE there must be a dozen or more themes for Gnome that makes it "appear" KDEish...
[01:21] <Guest37807> this is why I stop using linux
[01:21] <dr_Willis> wes1,  you can make a bootable thumbdrive to isntall from with the unetbootin tool and the ubuntu.iso file
[01:21] <Guest37807> I am having the most difficult time just trying to get flash to work in firefox.
[01:21] <TiZ> _VIM_: All the oxygen ports to GTK really stink. :(
[01:21] <_VIM_> :(
[01:21] <Digitalcheffe> thats not  linux problem
[01:21] <dr_Willis> Guest37807,  i just install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' and it worked here.. but i think the flash guys broke things yet AGAIN the other day
[01:21] <wes1> dr_Willis; thumb drive is at work
[01:22] <theshadow> binarymutant: one sec while I get this put to gether
[01:22] <Guest37807> Some flash works but if I try to watch any videos it crashes firefox.
[01:22] <Guest37807> I installed linux yesterday for probably the 20th time in my life after windows takin a shit on me.
[01:22] <ryan__> it does that to me with java applets
[01:22] <ryan__> because most require the latest version
[01:22] <hlm> Guest37807, watch your language please
[01:23] <Digitalcheffe> guest37807 are you using the current firefox verison , and did youi let it upgrade
[01:23] <ryan__> you probably dont have the latest version
[01:23] <_VIM_> !who | ryan__
[01:23] <hlm> !tab
[01:24] <Digitalcheffe> >	Guest37807, i had over 200 updates after letting it sit on for a while . maybe? 20 for firefox
[01:24] <ari_stress> good morning all :)
[01:24] <Digitalcheffe> heeeeello
[01:24] <hlm> ari_stress, good morning
[01:24] <RJN> binarymutant,
[01:25] <ryan__> ubottu: sorry didnt know
[01:25] <hlm> ubottu, Hello
[01:25] <Digitalcheffe> How do set the ip address to static on my machine, everytime i reboot it goes back to auto/dhcp?
[01:25] <hlm> Digitalcheffe, why would you want to do this?
[01:25] <Digitalcheffe> lamp server
[01:26] <cached> How would I do "man blah" if I'm looking for the C system call 'blah' but 'blah' is also a command I can run from the shell?
[01:26] <ryan__> does anyone on here know how to install java 6 update 11 instead of update 10?
[01:26] <Serraphyn> Anyone know how to get multiple monitors working in ubuntu 8.10 i386(just installed it)
[01:26] <Guest37807> installing ubuntu-restricted-extras fixed it for me.
[01:26] <Matir> cached, try "man 2 blah" where 2 is the section... system calls are usually 2, IIRC
[01:26] <Guest37807> thank you whoever suggested that.
[01:26] <hlm> Digitalcheffe, just bind your ip to *
[01:26] <nightrid3r> Digitalcheffe system --- preferences --- network configuration
[01:26] <Digitalcheffe> brb
[01:28] <ca_rlo> hi
[01:28] <hlm> need help, usplash doesnt display anything!
[01:28] <Digitalcheffe> nightride3r, when i conifgur it to manual and put everything in on reboot or whatever it changes back
[01:28] <ca_rlo> Ubuntu 9.04 will not have any changes? Visually?
[01:28] <binarymutant> ca_rlo, it will have different artwork
[01:28] <cached> matir: thanks!!
[01:28] <Micheleeeeeeee> hi
[01:29] <hlm> Micheleeeeeeee, HELLO!
[01:29] <Micheleeeeeeee> is there anybody out there? :)
[01:29] <binarymutant> !ask | Micheleeeeeeee
[01:29] <hlm> Micheleeeeeeee,  yes
[01:29] <Mavericks> yes sir, what do you need Micheleeeeeee
[01:29] <Micheleeeeeeee> :)
[01:29] <Digitalcheffe> nightride3r, it goes back to auto. its really annoying becuase i just turn it on and roll out for the day and when  start to play with it remotely i cant get to it. . when check the problem later it set to auto
[01:30] <egc> im trying to open a php5 from nautilus with firefox, but i cant.  has anybody ever seen this?
[01:30] <nightrid3r> Digitalcheffe http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ubuntu+static+ip
[01:30] <egc> um, php5  == php file
[01:30] <n8tuser> egc what do you expect it to do?
[01:30] <Micheleeeeeeee> i have a question: i don't know why with previous versions of ubuntu compiz worked better than now :| i have a laptop with ati x1200.... am I too generic?
[01:30] <egc> n8tuser: id like to see it open in firefox
[01:30] <ca_rlo> Ubuntu 9.04 will not have any changes? Visually?
[01:31] <egc> if i enter the file:// path into firefox, it still wont open
[01:31] <Digitalcheffe> nightride, really dude? could have done that anyways. thought i would start hear first
[01:31] <n8tuser> egc -> to display contents? were you able todo this before?
[01:31] <hlm> ermmm I suppose im going to reinstall ubuntu for the 5th time in less than 48 hours :'(
[01:31] <egc> n8tuser: yes, i was and then i uninstalled gallery2
[01:31] <Mavericks> hlm: that is painful
[01:31] <alexsander> :-)
[01:31] <trippss> trying to (once again) figure out how to get music to play again on my system after I had to forcefully kill audacious after it stopped responding (while severe page swapping was occurring on the HD). how do I restart artsd? pulseaudio? or anything else that could be responsible?
[01:31] <Micheleeeeeeee> somebody know the problem?
[01:31] <binarymutant> hlm, I wouldn't
[01:31] <ca_rlo> Ubuntu 9.04 will not have any changes? Visually?
[01:32] <binarymutant> hlm, write a bug report instead
[01:32] <Micheleeeeeeee> ca_rlo, bastaaa
[01:32] <egc> n8tuser: uninstalling gallery2 seems to have broken it, but reinstalling gallery2 didnt fix it automatically
[01:32] <n8tuser> egc can you open another file like a *.txt ?
[01:32] <ca_rlo> bastaa?????
[01:32] <blouf> hlm : have you tried to customize usplash ?
[01:32] <Micheleeeeeeee> ghgh
[01:33] <bthornton> has anyone noticed recently that they are unable to move Gnome panels that they could previously move?
[01:33] <bthornton> I can't even delete mine now
[01:33] <bthornton> Ubuntu Ibex, x86_64
[01:33] <egc> n8tuser: yes i just verified that
[01:33] <emet> bthornton: right click on the panel and select "Allow panel to be moved"
[01:34] <luke_> hi there, my desktop used to be really fast and responsive but then i delete some config file and now its sluggish as hell, i cant even start desktop effects
[01:34] <luke_> can someone suggest a fix please
[01:34] <blouf> hlm : have you tried to customize usplash ?
[01:34] <bthornton> emet: that's the thing; it's not locked. Instead, I see "Lock panel position", but clicking that doesn't toggle anything.
[01:34] <DasEI> hlm: why would you ?
[01:34] <luke_> or something to do a non distructive fix
[01:34] <egc> my system wants to open php files with bluefish editor
[01:34] <n8tuser> egc -> what does your /etc/mime.types for php tells you?
[01:34] <n2diy> I'm setting up a test box, and just installed 8.04 on a WD 28400 ide drive. During the install Ubuntu thought it was a scsi drive, and it is set up as sda1!? Otherwise, the install went ok.
[01:34] <hlm> ALL: I need to do this because usplash fails to work properly
[01:34] <emet> hmm, no clue then :(
[01:34] <bthornton> smells like a bug
[01:34] <nightrid3r> n2diy thats the ubuntu way
[01:35] <bthornton> anyways thanks
[01:35] <egc> n8tuser: application/x-httpd-php                         phtml pht php
[01:35] <storrgie> anyone hosting with linode?
[01:35] <n8tuser> egc theres more lines with php
[01:35] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me how to get the flashpaper support in hardy heron
[01:35] <Royall> I have a folder in my recycle bin that just won't go away. I've tried sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*, still there
[01:36] <n2diy> nightrid3r: since when did they stop using hda for ide drives?
[01:36] <wyred> hi! how will i install kde on ubuntu?
[01:36] <sendney> hello every1
[01:36] <egc> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/118993/
[01:36] <DasEI> DarkKnight: close browser, sudo apt-get install fashplugin-nonfree mozplugger , see also :
[01:36] <DasEI> !flash
[01:36] <richard1992> any one having a problem with the Gnome Font Viewer in Ubuntu
[01:36] <nightrid3r> n2diy i think in 7.4
[01:36] <sendney> you should install kubuntu
[01:37] <Royall> Hey DarkKnight are you the one always quoted in Wanda The Fish?
[01:37] <Scunizi> what can I use to map my lan and the machines on it?  is there a program that sends out a ping and makes a map?
[01:37] <n8tuser> egc same as mine
[01:37] <DasEI> DarkKnight: *flashpugin...
[01:37] <egc> Scunizi: check out nmap
[01:37] <DarkKnight> DasEI; i have flash support for my firefox... but not for flashpaper...so will that command work
[01:37] <luke_> how can i detect my new video settings
[01:37] <Scunizi> egc: ok..
[01:37] <richard1992>  any one having a problem with the Gnome Font Viewer in Ubuntu
[01:37] <wyred> sendney, im using ubuntu but needs kde
[01:37] <DarkKnight> Royall; i dont know anything about that
[01:37] <Royall> Ah
[01:37] <DasEI> DarkKnight: what medium ?
[01:37] <egc> n8tuser: ah ok
[01:38] <zelrikriando> wyred, I think you can just install the kde packages
[01:38] <DarkKnight> DasEI; medium in the sense?
[01:38] <computer> what is a good street map software for a truck driver that uses ubuntu
[01:38] <egc> n8tuser: this is really odd IMO
[01:38] <DasEI> DarkKnight: media
[01:38] <nightrid3r> wyred sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[01:38] <n2diy> nightrid3r: ok, I really don't care what Ubuntu calls it, as long as it is working, thnks.
[01:38] <DarkKnight> DasEI; in the sense?
[01:38] <DasEI> DarkKnight: what do want to watch ?
[01:39] <wyred> zelrikriando, i just apt-get install kde but after the installation it give an error on /etc/X11/X no such file or directory
[01:39] <Danuk-men> hi ?
[01:39] <DarkKnight> DasEI; i have my subject notes placed online in flashpaper....so i need to refer to that
[01:39] <sendney> the kde software can run well in the genome, and why  you must install kde ?
[01:39] <grandrew> hi all! how can I get my ubuntu version?
[01:39] <computer> what is a good street map software for a truck driver that uses ubuntu
[01:39] <Danuk-men> #Unbuntu-es
[01:39] <n8tuser> egc -> are you typing  file:///fullpathtofile    ?  notice the 3 ///
[01:39] <richard1992> hey KDE is in Kubuntu, go to Kubuntu channel
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> grandrew: in a terminal lsb_release -a
[01:39] <Thurin1> grandrew: nano /etc/issue
[01:40] <grandrew> IndyGunFreak: thanks!
[01:40] <egc> n8tuser: yes i did have 3 '/'
[01:40] <n2diy> I'm trying to install 8.04 on a different drive, in my test box. Ubuntu fell back (?) to busybox, and I'm getting a tone of errors concerning logical block 0 on device sda, is my HD dead?
[01:40] <DasEI> DarkKnight: so flashplayer should display them
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy: why not use the current version?
[01:41] <DarkKnight> DasEI; unfortuntely no..
[01:41] <n8tuser> egc and what does your  about:config tells you under  mime ?
[01:41] <DasEI> DarkKnight: have a url ?
[01:42] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: it is the current, LTS, version. :)
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> true enough, but why not 8.10, i guess would be a better way to phrase it.
[01:42] <DarkKnight> DasEI; campusexpress.co.in   but you have to need an account
[01:43] <egc> n8tuser: can't copy and paste the values
[01:43] <m1dn1ght> Currently when my external hd mounts to /media/disk it is accessible to any user (perhaps because it uses ntfs) - is there any way to make it so that only I can access it?
[01:43] <egc> n8tuser: but ive got 3 lines that filter on mime
[01:43] <DasEI> n2diy: check the (unmounted) drive with e2fsck
[01:43] <n8tuser> egc you can tell me, itheres only two lines
[01:43] <DasEI> !fsck | n2diy
[01:43] <egc> /etc/mime.types, and ~/.mime.types
[01:43] <GMWeezel> I'm looking from a program that will show loudness bars on each audio channel of my computer. Not volume but like the visualization bars some programs have that change with loudness of the music.
[01:43] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: No blank CDs, and I haven't networked the test box yet. Do you think it would help with block 0 errors, sounds fatal to me?
[01:43] <n8tuser> egc same as mine..
[01:44] <mattmatteh> i searched the package database for sfml-1.4 for ubuntu 8.10 and only find version 1.2.  could anyone suggest how to get sfml 1.4
[01:44] <richard1992> bemvindo!
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy: i dunno to be truthful... can the machine boot a thumb drive?
[01:44] <x-ip> bienvenido
[01:44] <DasEI> DarkKnight: no idea then, I can watch swf files or get them down as pdf, sorry
[01:44] <richard1992> Bomdia au tudoes em portugal!
[01:44] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: yes it can.
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy: google "unetbootin"
[01:44] <DarkKnight> DasEI; did you see it
[01:45] <computer> what is a good street map software for a truck driver that uses ubuntu
[01:45] <n2diy> DasEI: Ubuntu isn't installed, so Ican't get to a prompt.
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy: i've used it to set up thumb drives on many occasions, its always worked quite well for me
[01:45] <DasEI> n2diy: use a live cd ?
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:45] <DasEI> DarkKnight: the link I have no account for ?
[01:46] <n2diy> DasEI: DUH! Yea, I can do that, thanks.
[01:46] <fotune> hello all!
[01:46] <ubuntu_> hello all
[01:46] <DarkKnight> DasEI; see my private message
[01:46] <ubuntu_> new to linux
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_: we can all tell that, because you didn't even bother creating a screen name
[01:47] <ubuntu_> need some advice on creating a print server.
[01:47] <Xavier> is there a ubuntu version of windows chkdsk?
[01:47] <chu_> Hey, I've had this problem for a while, and some of you may recall me asking for help, anyway my laptop
[01:47] <fotune> you know whats getting on my nerves with ubuntu on my 5,1 macbook? the freaking internet stops after a couple hours, and i must resent my onnection to my wireless.
[01:48] <n2diy> IndyGunFreak: I big of a thumbdrive would I need to boot with?
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: well, you are usinga version of ubuntu that is about, 3yrs old.
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> n2diy: 1gig
[01:48] <fotune> naww
[01:48] <DasEI> n2diy: boot live, goto terminal, try sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sdXX  , if unsure, check sudo fdisk -l before for right devicename
[01:48] <fotune> really?
[01:48] <fotune> what is the latest?
[01:49] <DIFH-iceroot> fotune: 8.10
[01:49] <fotune> what am i on?
[01:49] <fotune> how do i tell
[01:49] <fotune> i know, its dumb
[01:49] <DasEI> !version | fotune
[01:49] <hlm> no
[01:49] <hlm> im not going to file a bug report
[01:49] <hlm> too lengty
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: you really didn;t know you were using an extremely old release?
[01:50] <fotune> o ok... i was pretty sure i downloaded the latest
[01:50] <whacked> Ok i have 2 HD , one has Ubuntu installed on it the other windows, windows is master and Ubuntu is on slave, when I boot up  i press F8 for OS selection but on windows appears , if i go into bois and change HD boot order i can boot into Ubuntu, but i was kinda hoping just to be able to chose OS from pressing F8 and not have to actually go into bois and change boot order on HD
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: hardly... did you say you're on a mac?
[01:50] <chu_> Hey, I've had this problem for a while, and some of you may recall me asking for help, anyway my laptop's battery isn't "identified" (though the laptop says the battery isn't detected it runs on battery power so it *must* be detected right? I don't get any readings from it though, in fact the laptop tells me it is running on AC power!), anyway I was thinking if I can identify features of the battery, how could I then use that information to maybe help fix this
[01:50] <chu_> problem? Basically what goes into battery detected? I assume it has something to do with ACPI, or APM, though I believe APM is dying now? Any chance I could b having an APM/ACPI clash or something?
[01:50] <fotune> yes...
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: is it a g3, or an intel mac?
[01:50] <asadaf> ayky
[01:51] <fotune> macbook, hardware ver. 5,1
[01:51] <fotune> intel
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: so its an intel mac?
[01:51] <wes1> i hope this netbunto
[01:51] <fotune> yes
[01:51] <wes1> install
[01:51] <DIFH-iceroot> whacked: then you have one bootloader on the one hd, the other loader on the other hd and your bios is starting the loader from the master drive, so just install grub on your hdd, the bios will boot first
[01:51] <wes1> installs
[01:51] <wes1> !netbunto
[01:51] <FloodBot2> wes1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: then just go download the current version of ubuntu, burn it, and do a clean install w/ it.. current version is 8.10
[01:51] <wes1> FloodBot2 is a butthole
[01:52] <fotune> hmmm
[01:52] <erickvp> there any vista users here?
[01:52] <x-ip> chu_, do u have acpitool installed ?!
[01:52] <DIFH-iceroot> wes1: its called ubuntu not ubunto
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: where did you even download 5.10?
[01:52] <x-ip> chu_, apm is not more used
[01:52] <wes1> < vista user
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> wes1: sorry to hear that
[01:52] <wes1> !netbuntu
[01:52] <DIFH-iceroot> erickvp: no
[01:52] <nigz> hai!
[01:52] <x-ip> x'DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> wes1: netbuntu?. what are you talking about?
[01:52] <wes1> lol
[01:52] <chu_> Nope, I do not have acpitool installed.
[01:53] <chu_> x-ip
[01:53] <x-ip> chu_, try that
[01:53] <fotune> hello, back.
[01:53] <wes1> im using unetbunto
[01:53] <erickvp> thanx,i'm just lookin for help with it,i'm runnin ubuntu
[01:53] <wes1> to install over the internet
[01:53] <wes1> !unetbuntu
[01:53] <n2diy> DasEI: I'm getting the same error booting from the live cd, as I was when I tried to install from it.
[01:53] <fotune> i checked, it said i was was on 8.10
[01:53] <x-ip> chu_, its a console based soft, do u know how to handle that ?!
[01:53] <nightrid3r> wes1 thats unetbootin
[01:53] <DIFH-iceroot> wes1: netinstall?
[01:53] <wes1> ubottu just sucks
[01:53] <wes1> yeah
[01:53] <wes1> its cool
[01:53] <FloodBot2> wes1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <wes1> i found it
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> wes1: no, you just don't know how to talk to him
[01:53] <wes1> IndyGunFreak ur prolly right
[01:53] <DIFH-iceroot> !wtf | wes1
[01:54] <chu_> Yeah, should be all good x-ip, we'll see though
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> fotune: well there's a bit difference between 5.10 and 8.10
[01:54] <wes1> howd i guess
[01:54] <fotune> it said 8.10
[01:54] <wes1> cuss
[01:54] <x-ip> chu_, hmmmm as u want
[01:54] <wes1> cause i said sucks?
[01:54] <donvito-> uuuuuuuuu
[01:54] <ne0nlightz> is the drvier 177 supported under 8.10
[01:54] <DIFH-iceroot> wes1: you have a ubuntu-related question?
[01:54] <donvito-> how can i add ipv6 tunel on my ubuntu
[01:54] <xubuser> Hello Peeople.
[01:54] <x-ip> wow 177. ... wtf ....
[01:54] <wes1> stop attacking me
[01:54] <nightrid3r> IndyGunFreak the 5.1 fotune is refering to is the macbook i think
[01:55] <x-ip> donvito-, configuring an ipv6
[01:55] <wes1> go to hell DIFH-iceroot i did nothing wrong and i was looking for a net install and i simply found it
[01:55] <ne0nlightz> x-ip what
[01:55] <chu_> Pretty much gave me no information (Just reading the man acpitool page now), actually the same information as I would have got from acpi -V
[01:55] <x-ip> yep ne0nlightz
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> nightrid3r: yeah, i eventually figured that out... but he's using an Intel mac, which was really the important part of my question
[01:55] <wes1> !WTF | DIFH-iceroot
[01:55] <xubuser> I am not sure how but totem keeps coming up as the registered app to handle .avi, .wav files.... I keep changing it back to mplayer. But somehow totem gets back.
[01:55] <ne0nlightz> it used to not be are you sure...
[01:55] <DIFH-iceroot> wes1: keep cool or leave please
[01:55] <x-ip> he has to configure his ipv6 tunnel
[01:55] <xubuser> can anyone shed any light on this?
[01:55] <wes1> dont be a butt
[01:56] <donvito-> how can i add ipv6 tunel on my ubuntu
[01:56] <ne0nlightz> x-ip are you sure its supported it used to not work....
[01:56] <xubuser> why the only software that wants you to buy all the darn codecs is the only one that gets installed by default on a free system is really annoying.
[01:56] <hlm> NEED HELP: can someone give me an example etc/usplash.conf?
[01:56] <x-ip> ne0nlightz, supported ?! ur question has no sence
[01:56] <nightrid3r> wes1 there's 367 bans at this moment you could be 368
[01:56] <jrib> wes1: please be respectful of other users in this channel.  And keep the discussion here related to support
[01:56] <ne0nlightz> x-ip the nvidia driver  177 and 173.......
[01:57] <x-ip> i did ipv6 tunnels, they are supported
[01:57] <binarymutant> hlm, mines empty :/
[01:57] <wes1> whatever dude i did nothing wrong, leave it alone
[01:57] <whacked> you lost me
[01:57] <x-ip> ou about nvidia cards i've no idea
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> nightrid3r: that reminds me of that line from training day that denzel had.. "I've got 5 officers,t hats 5 sets of problems, you could be number 6 if you act right"
[01:57] <chu_> Apparantly no asus extensions found, though this is an asus laptop - would it be wise to find these asus extensions?
[01:57] <whacked> i am physically changing the the bios setting to which HD to boot from
[01:57] <Andre_Gondim> I am trying to do ssh in one virtual machine by ssh, but i recive this message  "Error reading response length from authentication socket" how may i solve this?
[01:57] <whacked> i have grub on the HD with Unbuntu
[01:58] <ne0nlightz> Does anyone know anything about the nvidia drivers 173 abd 177???
[01:58] <whacked> but it does not shows windows as  an OS to boot from
[01:58] <n8tuser> Andre_Gondim -> attempt to ssh in from within the virtual machine first
[01:58] <x-ip> Andre_Gondim, ask ur protocol implementation
[01:58] <templa[mobile]_> Help! My panels have both dissapeared
[01:58] <computer> how do i uninstall an app through the terminal?
[01:59] <DasEI> !bootoptions | n2diy
[01:59] <nightrid3r> !grub | whacked
[01:59] <DIFH-iceroot> computer: sudo apt-get remove paketname
[01:59] <wes1> lol
[01:59] <wes1> i walk away from two seconds
[01:59] <donvito-> how can i add ipv6 tunel on my ubuntu
[01:59] <wes1> ...heh hopefully this isntall works
[01:59] <chu_> ACPI settings are found in /etc/acpi ?
[02:00] <jrib> !apt > computer
[02:00] <whacked> honestly i want to do it without Grub , but right now any method would be fine
[02:00] <DasEI> !ipv6 | donvito-:
[02:00] <whacked> I have not lost grub it is present
[02:01] <whacked> i just dont see windows on list
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: but that will reinstall grub, and see if it will pick up your windows install.
[02:01] <nightrid3r> whacked http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[02:02] <whacked> i has windows on one HD which i disconnected, then i connected other HD to Pc and installed Unbuntu, then after i plugged windows HD back in
[02:02] <nightrid3r> whacked the error you made was unplugging the windows HD when you installed ubuntu
[02:02] <Commie_Cary> if I use a tv tuner that can replace my cable box, will I get ALL of my digital channels
[02:02] <binarymutant> this might be the wrong place to ask but which ruby team is official? https://launchpad.net/~moturuby or https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ruby ?
[02:02] <whacked> ok i see
[02:02] <n8tuser> Commie_Cary -> nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:02] <whacked> if i make a mistake,
[02:03] <nightrid3r> whacked is you put windows as master and reinstall ubuntu on 2nd disk grub will pickup windows
[02:03] <whacked> will i potential not be able to boot in eith OS
[02:04] <nightrid3r> whacked if this is scary to you backup all important windows stuff first
[02:04] <Phreakish> hi i am brand spanking newborn infant new to linux and don't know a darn thing can someone help me through installing a wireless driver
[02:04] <ayax> hi ubunteros
[02:04] <martin_henry> Phreakish, find a guide to determining what wireless chipset you have
[02:04] <binarymutant> Phreakish, what's the wifi card?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: i don't think you'll screw it up to the point you can't boot ubuntu.. i've restored grub lots of times (actually had to this morning), and i never have
[02:04]  * nightrid3r waves at ayax
[02:05] <Phreakish> belkin f5d8053 usb rt2870 chipset
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> Phreakish: that device sucks under windows, i can't imagine it being much better under linux
[02:05] <martin_henry> Phreakish, so you probably used the command "lspci" to get that ?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> !realtek | Phreakish
[02:05] <ayax> news?
[02:06] <nightrid3r> IndyGunFreak rt2870 wifi is ralink
[02:06] <Phreakish> martin henry i havn't used anything i don't know what to do
[02:06] <nightrid3r> i think :)
[02:06] <Phreakish> it is
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> nightrid3r: yeah,thus the link
[02:07] <nightrid3r> hmmm ralink == realtek ??
[02:07] <whacked> yes iam scared
[02:07] <martin_henry> Phreakish, if you didn't already click it, someone offered you this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> nightrid3r: yes, it does
[02:07] <whacked> i have already formated PC 2 times in the last week
[02:07] <ayax> such that the the new version of ubuntu?
[02:08] <xorxes> Does someone know how to get xev to capture all events, not just the ones in the window?
[02:08] <nightrid3r> ow cool learned something new today
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> nightrid3r: yeah, you learned to stay away from realtek when it comes to linux... PITA
[02:08] <whacked> i can load Grub it just doesnt show windows on the list that all
[02:08] <nightrid3r> yeah
[02:09] <mnemonic76> What should I do if Intrepid doesn't recognize a pcmcia card? sudo pccardctl ident returns Socket 0 no product info available and same for socket 1
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: how is your system set up.
[02:09] <Phreakish> i checked out the link but lsusb only shows belkin device and i think the guide is for the rtl8187 chipset i have rt2870
[02:09] <mnemonic76> The card is inserted, and it is a Netgear WG511 (version 1)
[02:09] <whacked> I have windows on a 80 gig HD
[02:09] <whacked> a freind gave me a Hd
[02:10] <whacked> so I disconnected my Windows HD from PC
[02:10] <mnemonic76> I don't understand how linux deals with pcmcia enough to know what to do next...
[02:10] <kreino> what software to use as webcam n chatting in ubuntu?
[02:10] <whacked> and then installed ubuntu  on new HD
[02:10] <whacked> then reconnected other HD to Pc
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: lol, lemme get this straight, you actually expected the linux installer, to pick up your windows install, when it was disconnected while you installed linux
[02:11] <whacked> i never said that
[02:11] <nightrid3r> whacked its the switching HD's that got you in trouble
[02:11] <whacked> i just want to know how to add it now
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: then my suggestion would be to not hit enter every 3 words so i can follow you
[02:11] <Phreakish> i have a driver and have done the ndiswrapper thing but i don't get hardware present i just get driver installed
[02:11] <_VIM_> !enter
[02:11] <Voltron> !vi
[02:11] <whacked> just trying to be too safe thats all
[02:12] <Voltron> !isvithebestever?
[02:12] <nightrid3r> !grub | whacked
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: made it more complex than it needed to be to be truthful
[02:12] <nightrid3r> whacked get the first link
[02:12] <xorxes> How can I capture all keypresses?
[02:12] <whacked> i didnt lose grub
[02:12] <whacked> i have it
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: i'm aware of that
[02:12] <nightrid3r> whacked its on the wrong drive so basicaly the same problem
[02:13] <n8tuser> xorxes -> for what purpose?
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: try this.. open a terminal and type "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" no quotes (and thats a lowercase L)
[02:13] <merther> I'm trying to configure ubuntu 8.10 for a static ipaddress and it's not taking the changes.  Can anybody help?
[02:14] <n8tuser> merther -> how are you setting it?
[02:14] <magcius> Hmm... I have the latest nVidia drivers, but I can only get 1600x1200 max. Any ideas why?
[02:14] <mjbraun> I'm stumped. I have a scsi-attached CD-ROM jukebox and my system drops to initramfs on newer kernels. I'm not sure what has changed between kernel versions. I have no clue as to what my next debugging steps should be. Can anyone offer suggestions?
[02:14] <jp_sf> merther: lan card ?
[02:14] <ne0nlightz> who here has the nvidia driver of 173 or 177??? PLEASE ANSWER D:
[02:14] <Voltron> xorxes, if you only want to capture the keys in firefox. theres a plugin
[02:14] <magcius> ne0nlightz, I have 173
[02:14] <xorxes> thanks voltron!
[02:15] <ne0nlightz> magcius: how did you get it to work? im pretty sure theres a bug where those drivers break
[02:15] <merther> It's ethernet.  I go into network connections and I take the auto eth and edit that under ipv4 settings for manual
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: are you there?
[02:15] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz, I have 177
[02:15] <magcius> ne0nlightz, what are you trying to do?
[02:15] <ne0nlightz> how did you get it to work? the last time i checked those drivers failed
[02:15] <ne0nlightz> after you reboot there is no gui
[02:15] <merther> once I'm done modifying that I reset the network connection and it's still not the ip I put in.
[02:16] <ne0nlightz> unless they fixed t
[02:16] <jp_sf> merther: I'm not so sure about the gui maybe we could do that from the command line within a terminal you are ok with that ?
[02:16] <whacked> yes sorry i was reading instructions
[02:16] <merther> I'd be fine with that, haven't done that before though.
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> no problem, and i just want to be clear, you booted the live CD, and tried to follow the instructions for restoring grub, and it didn't work, right?
[02:16] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf:  did you have to do anything to get those drivers to work or did it automatically
[02:17] <whacked> i havent tried anything yet
[02:17] <jp_sf> merther: the basic idea would be to edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: lol, well then close the window you ust opened
[02:17] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: nope nothing enabling the proprietary drivers that's it
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: i thouht you said you tried that and it didn't work
[02:17] <mnemonic76> Need help troubleshooting PCMCIA card... pccardctl doesn't see the card. Is this a low-level command? Any suggestions?
[02:17] <n8tuser> merther -> how are you setting it?
[02:17] <zeke_> hi i'm back, sorry i had to leave earlier. i had an oils spill management test
[02:17] <whacked> hangon i have to reboot to unbuntu
[02:17] <spartan2276> is there any other application like Ekiga in the rpositories, Ekiga does not seem to be working
[02:17] <whacked> i am in windows right now
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: actually, you need to use the live cd
[02:17] <jp_sf> merther: basically the network settings are in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:17] <whacked> be back in a bit ok
[02:17] <merther> k got it up with sudo and sofar it's got auto lo and iface lo inet loopback.
[02:18] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: would having two graphics card mess this up do you know>?
[02:18] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: got only one no sorry I don't know
[02:18] <whacked> why need live when i can boot to Unbuntu
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: ok, you figure it out.
[02:18] <whacked> no
[02:18] <zeke_> i was the guy that couldn't get his thumbdrive to mount
[02:18] <whacked> i have to goto bois and change which HD to boot from
[02:18] <mib_oj6v43> I have a question. If i install gOS flavor on to ubuntu will it boot up as fast as gOS? Isnt gOS a flavor of ubuntu?
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: that wasn't really my question
[02:19] <jp_sf> merther: you should have a line I guess with iface eth0 inet dhcp if you were in DHCP before
[02:19] <illumin8> Could anyone recommend a website that would explain to me how to partition my drive properly for multiple linux installs (ubunut, pclinuxos, and a few others)
[02:19] <ne0nlightz> Does anyone here have 2 graphics cards and use the driver for nvidia 177 or 173? PLEASE ANSWER!
[02:19] <whacked> ok anyways be right back
[02:19] <merther> I've got auto lo
[02:19] <merther> iface lo inet loopback
[02:19] <whacked> but i have to boot from live cd
[02:19] <jp_sf> merther: just to make sure your lan card is eth0 ? could you type ifconfig to check the neame of your card
[02:20] <whacked> i cannot just boot up Ubuntu off Hd and run terminal then
[02:20] <merther> ya gots eth0
[02:20] <_VIM_> mib_oj6v43: I don't believe gOS is a flavor of Ubuntu, check distrowatch.com and type in gOS it should give more details
[02:20] <sebsebseb> ne0nlightz: you  probably only got one graphics card like me, but yes I got two options for the driver as well
[02:20] <sebsebseb> ne0nlightz: obviously you go for the latest version
[02:21] <ne0nlightz> sebsebseb: actually i have 2... 9300 and 8300
[02:21] <ne0nlightz> which are known to mess up
[02:21] <jp_sf> merther: ok so the basic idea would be to add to your /etc/network/interfaces few lines to specifiy your network configuration
[02:21] <mib_oj6v43> _VIM_ gOS is an easy-to-use, Ubuntu-based distribution designed for less technical computer users
[02:21] <Phreakish> could somebody point me in the right direction on installing belkin f5d8053 usb wireless stick (ralink rt2870 chipset) Im a native vista user taking a leap of faith and trying linux with no previus knowledge and seem to be failing horribly!
[02:21] <_VIM_> but it's not supported by Ubuntu mib_oj6v43
[02:21] <ne0nlightz> sebsebseb: do you know about that? 2 nvidia cards with 177 or 173 are known to mess up and give no gui on boot
[02:21] <jp_sf> merther: you have to add: iface eth0 inet static
[02:21] <whacked> so can i just boot my Ubuntu from Hd anc run terminal command suggested , or actually have to run live cd again
[02:22] <jp_sf> merther: (and remove any line with iface eth0 inet dhcp)
[02:22] <sebsebseb> ne0nlightz: no don't know about that, and why do you have two?
[02:22] <ne0nlightz> sebsebseb: more power lol?
[02:22] <mib_oj6v43> _VM_ Ok thanks!
[02:22] <sebsebseb> whacked: Ubuntu should be installed from a live cd yes
[02:22] <nightrid3r> Phreakish id don't think its supported, you can use the windows driver when you install ndiswrapper
[02:22] <_VIM_> mib_oj6v43: np
[02:22] <whacked> i have unbuntu installed already
[02:22] <merther> other then the line you told me to put in I've got no other line that mentions eth0
[02:22] <whacked> on a separate HD
[02:23] <whacked> and it works fine
[02:23] <jp_sf> merther: then you have to add the address you want to give it would be something like address 192.168.1.2
[02:23] <Phreakish> iv tried ndis wrapper it doesn't say device present after i install driver only driver installed
[02:23] <keres> every time someone calls me up with a question on how to fix their computer i want to kick bill gates in the balls.
[02:23] <merther> after the word static or on a line under?
[02:23] <jp_sf> merther: address IP.address.youwant
[02:23] <jp_sf> merther: ok ?
[02:23] <whacked> i just have to change which HD to boot from in BOIS thats all
[02:23] <nightrid3r> whacked just do what IndyGunFreak tells you, he's forgotten mor about linux than you know
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> nightrid3r: lol
[02:24] <jp_sf> merther: you know the IP you want to give ? you know also your gateway ?
[02:24] <merther> yes
[02:24] <nightrid3r> Phreakish is it plugged in
[02:24] <zeke_> could someone help me to get my thumbdrive to work? it use to automount and stuff, now when i putit in nothing happens
[02:24] <Phreakish> yes
[02:24] <whacked> yeah, but it confusing why i have to run terminal from live cd as supposed to just running commands off Ubuntu installion
[02:24] <mrglinux> hi how to make a video DVD in ubunu my video file is .vob format
[02:24] <travmon69> <- - - 9.04 hi all!!
[02:24] <jp_sf> merther: ok then you have to put the netmask usually if it's on a home lan network it should be something like that: netmask 255.255.255.0
[02:25] <nightrid3r> Phreakish try unplug and plug again
[02:25] <Phreakish> it shows up with lsusb as xxxx:xxxx belkin device
[02:25] <whacked> anyways everyone i being very helpful
[02:25] <nightrid3r> Phreakish then see what dmesg says
[02:25] <merther> ok I've put that in
[02:25] <Phreakish> ok i'll try that
[02:26] <jp_sf> merther: then the boadcast: broadcast 192.168.1.255 ( I assume your eth0 is 192.168.1.2 netmask is 255.255.255.0 gateway is 192.168.1.3)
[02:26] <Phreakish> i'll be back in 5 to tell u what it says
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> don't those realtek devices require a firmware upgrade?.... i've always been lucky, and only had intel and atheros, which are usually pretty easy
[02:26] <travmon69> any live.twit.tv fans?
[02:26] <jp_sf> merther: and the gateway: gateway 192.168.1.2.3
[02:26] <_VIM_> !ot | travmon69
[02:27] <zeke_> can anyone help with my thumbdrive issues?
[02:27] <travmon69> sorry!
[02:27] <jp_sf> merther: after you will have to restart the network service with this command: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:27] <zeke_> lsusb shows its there
[02:27] <travmon69> on topic maybe here? i got flash 10 issues
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: what is the problem w/ the thumb drive?
[02:27] <jp_sf> merther: last but not least the DNS (to resolve host) this will be in /etc/resolv.conf
[02:28] <jp_sf> merther: everything is ok ?
[02:28] <merther> sofar
[02:28] <_VIM_> travmon69: people will help you more if you provide more details than that... :)
[02:28] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak well, when i put it in nothing happens i think automounting got turned off and i don't know how to turn it backon. lsusb does show that its there
[02:28] <jp_sf> !tab | merther
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: hmm,
[02:29] <merther> jp_sf:  so far everything is ok
[02:29] <jp_sf> merther: you know your DNS from your isp ? then you have to add them in /etc/resolv.conf with a line like nameserver (could be your gateway that have DNS service: nameserver 192.16.1.3
[02:30] <jp_sf> merther: it depends of you ISP and your configuration
[02:30] <RJN> can anyone help me on how to sync data from a PC to a PC through network
[02:30] <jp_sf> merther: it depends of your ISP and your configuration
[02:30] <merther> jp_sf: I just use the router for the name server as it gets everything from the modem.  I tend to also add open dns just in case.
[02:31] <jp_sf> merther: perfect then use your gateway/modem/router that will do it (usually)
[02:31] <travmon69> @vim i used ubuntu since 6.04. is there a way i can make flash 10 work better on firefox?
[02:31] <jp_sf> merther ok now type: ifconfig
[02:31] <nightrid3r> opendns nameservers 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[02:31] <jp_sf> merther: you should have all the entry with eth0
[02:32] <merther> jp_sf: Ok, let me save the changes and try it out
[02:32] <ovnicraft> hi, i when you release displayconfig-gtk?
[02:32] <zeke_> anyone else have any ideas?
[02:32] <jp_sf> merther: don't forget the setp to restart the network service ok ?
[02:32] <ovnicraft> s/i /_
[02:32] <_VIM_> travmon69: 'work better' as in it's too slow, flickers? or what.
[02:32] <billenium> I have just installed ubuntu. I went adobe.com and downloaded the flash player .deb for 8.04+. I installed it and restarted firefox. I still cannot play youtube and other Flash things. I then clicked (on firefox) "Find plugin" and attempted to install Adobe Flash from there... It said it worked, yet when i restarted firefox it DOES NOT WORK...
[02:33] <illumin8> billenium, when you installed the adobe was firefox open
[02:33] <merther> jp_sf: yep,  I've done that part before so it should be ok.
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: are you using Ubuntu?
[02:33] <billenium> illumin8: i think so
[02:33] <mrglinux> no solution for this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6746342#post6746342
[02:33] <mrglinux> ?
[02:33] <illumin8> billenium, its important that neither your download window nor firefox browser are open at the time of install
[02:33] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak: yeah i'm using ubuntu 8.10
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> hm, not sure why the drive won't auto mount,t hat doesn't make much sense
[02:34] <billenium> illumin8: should i close them and then reinstall it from the .deb?
[02:34] <illumin8> billenium, also are you using the 64 bit version or 32 bit version of ubuntu
[02:34] <whacked> can someone sen link for me again ?
[02:34] <_VIM_> travmon69: also please dont use @vim that wont highlight me :(   use _VIM_
[02:34] <billenium> 32bit version
[02:34] <ovnicraft> so, i see the pkg for ubuntu but i can see the code?
[02:34] <jp_sf> merther: then you are supposedly good to go, you can bring your interface up and bring down all your configuration are now saved (sudo ifconfig eth0 down and then sudo ifconfig eth0 up)
[02:34] <illumin8> billenium, 64 bit does not have adobe support that i know of.
[02:34] <illumin8> billenium, one moment ill get you a terminal command to install it
[02:34] <ovnicraft> this is the ubuntu developer channel?
[02:34] <billenium> Thank you.
[02:34] <_VIM_> no it's not
[02:35] <_VIM_> #ubuntu-dev i think it is
[02:35] <nightrid3r> ovnicraft no it support channel
[02:35] <merther> jp_sf: ok I'll get this saved and restarted and assuming everything is ok I'll be back.  Thanks for all the help. :)
[02:35] <ovnicraft> _VIM_, thx
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: can you see the drive in gparted?
[02:35] <jp_sf> merther: wait it works before saying thx :-)
[02:35] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak: lemem check. i know i can see it in lsusb
[02:35] <illumin8> billenium, this website will explain the method to install it http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-10-in-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron.html
[02:36] <whacked> i need link again for grub
[02:36] <_VIM_> !grub
[02:36] <whacked> honestly i wanted to do my boot without grub and F8 method
[02:36] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak: i don't have that installed, should i install it?
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: yeah, ... sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:37] <travmon69> _vim_ sorry i mean 6.06  i got kindA bug when i try to enter stickam chat on live.twit.tv where i have to enter chat i need to fullscreen vid then esc to fix page to allow me to click the bar to enter
[02:37] <billenium> illumin8 : i reinstalled it with firefox closed using the .deb
[02:37] <billenium> and it worked fine
[02:37] <illumin8> billenium, excellent, have fun :)
[02:37] <merther_> jp_sf: All setup, internet works, and ifconfig looks correct now with my static ip.  Thanks much!
[02:37] <billenium> Thank you :)
[02:37] <travmon69> sorry not using this chat only 3rd time
[02:38] <_VIM_> travmon69: its ok, i'm not going anywhere anytime soon :)
[02:38] <jp_sf> merther: cool just to make sure you can display your routing table: /sbin/rout -n
[02:38] <gilis|alt> Hey, I'd figure I'd ask here. What would anyone recommend I use to run something like SFTP in a chrooted environment? I've found rssh, but was wondering if something better was around.
[02:38] <jp_sf> merther: cool just to make sure you can display your routing table: /sbin/route -n
[02:38] <travmon69> _vim_ is this way you mean?
[02:39] <merther_> jp_sf: That shows up
[02:39] <whacked> ok hows is this grub> setup (hd0)
[02:39] <whacked>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[02:39] <whacked>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[02:39] <whacked>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[02:39] <whacked>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  16 sectors are embedded.
[02:39] <whacked> succeeded
[02:39] <FloodBot2> whacked: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak:  yes gparted ses the thumbdrive
[02:39] <zeke_> sees*
[02:40] <nightrid3r> !pastebin | whacked
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: well that is strange,, if you right cilck it, does it show you an option to unmount?
[02:40] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak:  nope
[02:40] <jp_sf> merther: last things from the command line how to change your eth0 configuration: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up and to add your gateway sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.3 but what we did is now saved in your network configuration next time you reboot they are still there
[02:40] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak:  i mean its there but i can't select it
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: hm, that is weird..
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> i have no clue what would cause that
[02:41] <travmon69> _vim_?
[02:41] <_VIM_> ?
[02:41] <nightrid3r> zeke_ doe's your thumbdrive have a writeprotec switch (some do)
[02:41] <whacked> ok, so how does it look ?
[02:42] <whacked> sorry about flood
[02:42] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak:   if you mean an actual physical switch, then no
[02:42] <nightrid3r> whacked i could tell if i have the url of your paste
[02:42] <whacked> i got booted for pasting
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: wasn't me that asked that,
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: read the message it gives you when you get booted
[02:43] <zeke_> IndyGunFreak:   no sorry, force of habit
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | whacked
[02:43] <merther_> jp_sf: Did that now.  great
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> zeke_: lol
[02:43] <zeke_> nightrid3r: no there is no switch
[02:43] <nightrid3r> zeke_ then i'm out of ideas
[02:43] <whacked> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119012/
[02:44] <nightrid3r> whacked looks fine to me, did you also add an entry in grub.conf for windows
[02:44] <nightrid3r> whacked menu.lst i mean
[02:45] <tzhcn> 大家好，请教问题
[02:45] <merther_> jp_sf: Thanks again.
[02:45] <ne0nlightz> does anyone know how to fix the nvidia driver 177 problem? PLEASE answer =[
[02:45] <nightrid3r> tzhcn english please
[02:45] <_VIM_> !cn | tzhcn
[02:45] <joshk_> uk
[02:46] <jake_> hello
[02:46] <zeke_> i used the file browser to go to /dev/sdb1 but i couldn't browse the filesysytem
[02:46] <jake_> how r u
[02:46] <zeke_> it says there is no program for it
[02:46] <ne0nlightz> jake_: this is for support not chatting
[02:46] <gilis|alt> Anyone have any suggestions on what to use to chroot sftp?
[02:47] <travmon69> wow this is a busy room!
[02:47] <sharef> sdb1 is read as just hardware, not software
[02:47] <Royall> What is the actual path of trash:///?
[02:47] <ne0nlightz>  does anyone know how to fix the nvidia driver 177 problem? PLEASE answer =\
[02:47] <jake_> hello
[02:47] <sharef> it would have to be mounted first, but considering its sdb1, it proly already is
[02:47] <zeke_> sharef: thats what i figured
[02:48] <zeke_> sharef: its not in /mnt though
[02:48] <whacked> nothing happens when i do this gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:49] <nightrid3r> zeke_ check /media
[02:49] <jhonnyboy> How can i make a shortcut on my desktop? (using Ubuntu/Gnome)
[02:49] <jhonnyboy> I want to make a shortcut to Documents
[02:49] <travmon69> _VIM_ did i make a mistake?
[02:50] <zeke_> nightrid3r:  nope just cdrom0 and what i guess is a symbolic link to cdrom
[02:50] <whacked> when i type gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst i get nothing for a resonce
[02:50] <nightrid3r> zeke_ weird
[02:50] <zeke_> nightrid3r:  i know this whole thing is weird
[02:50] <whacked> ok now what ?
[02:50] <dkulchenko> !lvm
[02:51] <nightrid3r> the adventures of zeke_ and the haunted thumbdrive
[02:51] <dkulchenko> How can I change the size of an LVM physical volume?
[02:51] <_VIM_> travmon69: no, but you still haven't said whether or not flash 10 is slow, flickering or what not, you need to be more detailed for us to help you, and also what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:51] <zeke_> nightrid3r:  i tried another thumb drive and i get the same thing
[02:52] <whacked> i typed this at terminal "gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" and nothing happens
[02:52] <nightrid3r> zeke_ could be a HAL problem
[02:52] <zeke_> nightrid3r:  HAL? thats not a 2001 joke is it?
[02:52] <ne0nlightz>  does anyone know how to fix the nvidia driver 177 problem? PLEASE answer =[
[02:53] <nightrid3r> zeke_ Hardware Abstraction Layer
[02:53] <whacked> ** (gedit:8163): WARNING **: Could not write gedit state file: Failed to create file '/root/.gnome2/gedit-2.AT8JPU': No such file or directory
[02:53] <whacked> ok got this message
[02:53] <zeke_> nightrid3r: could it be caused by a program i installed? i installed realplayer yesterday, turns out i don't even need it
[02:53] <nightrid3r> whacked use gksudo instead of gksu
[02:54] <nightrid3r> zeke_ no, hal if low level stuff
[02:54] <jp_sf> !HAL | zeke_
[02:55] <travmon69> _VIM_ i use 8.10 & 9.04 when i go to live.twit.tv  i need to fullscreen video then esc video for me to enter chat
[02:55] <ne0nlightz>  does anyone know how to fix the nvidia driver 177 problem? PLEASE answer =[
[02:55] <zeke_> nightrid3r: what would cause HAL problems, my thumbdrives worked fine a few days ago, they would autmount, and an icon would appear on the desktop, and i could use the fle browser to view its contents
[02:55] <whacked> nothing happens
[02:55] <mactools> whacked: in a terminal use sudo  and a terminal editor, such as vi, nano, emacs
[02:55] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: what is the problem ?
[02:56] <mjbraun> So, for troubleshooting my problem getting my system to boot with the scsi jukebox attached, what should I be doing to diagnose the cause?
[02:56] <mactools> whacked: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:56] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: whenever you install it, and reboot, you wont have a gui. but there may be some way to fix
[02:56] <zeahok> how can i get my term more colorful in ubuntu?
[02:56] <nightrid3r> zeke_ kernel update could do that but i have no problems and update my laptop today
[02:56] <travmon69> _VIM_ check out live.twit.tv see if it works for you?
[02:57] <_VIM_> travmon69: ah ok, well for 9.04 ask in #Ubuntu+1
[02:57] <_VIM_> well im on 8.04
[02:57] <mactools> zeahok: edit/uncomment lines in ~/bashrc  read it carefully, its in there.
[02:57] <_VIM_> but sure hang on travmon69
[02:57] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: ok could you do a dmesg | NVRM
[02:57] <mactools> zeahok: sorry .bashrc
[02:57] <tuxflavrdwafls> does anyone know the ubuntu equivilent of peer guardian?
[02:57] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: what do you mean..? i havent installed them yet
[02:57] <travmon69> _VIM_  stickam vid is down with a bug
[02:58] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: I want check what is installed what dmesg is telling us
[02:58] <zeahok> thanks a lot
[02:58] <zeke_> nightrid3r:  yeah i updated too. and i'm on a laptop if it matters
[02:58] <zeahok> ^_^
[02:58] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: so where do i run this in a terminal
[02:58] <ne0nlightz> ?
[02:58] <mactools> zeahok: you can also edit the terminal default profile. basic adjustments. white on black etc.
[02:58] <whacked> ok so now what
[02:58] <nightrid3r> zeke_ running out of ideas
[02:58] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: yes type : dmesg | grep NVRM
[02:59] <whacked> ^G Get Help  ^O WriteOut  ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text  ^C Cur Pos
[02:59] <whacked> ^X Exit      ^J Justify   ^W Where Is  ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell
[02:59] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf nothing happeneed
[02:59] <whacked> that the responce mactools
[02:59] <mactools> whacked: edit what you like and ctrl+x saves it
[02:59] <whacked> huh
[02:59] <jp_sf> !moblock | tuxflavrdwafls
[02:59] <mbennette68> Hi, every since updating ubuntu hardy to  Linux version 2.6.24-23,
[03:00] <mbennette68> my welcome login screen has shifted to the bottom right of the screen?
[03:00] <whacked> this is retarded
[03:00] <mbennette68> Is there any fix for this?
[03:00] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: ok so no driver is installed
[03:00] <zeke_> anyone else have any ideas? i need to put my star trek on my thumb drive so i can get laid
[03:00] <whacked> it your idea not mine
[03:00] <tuxflavrdwafls> jp_sf thanks
[03:00] <zeke_> someone please helpthis nerd get laid
[03:00] <_VIM_> travmon69: ok well i see a chat room, ummm i'm not sure what else im supposed to be seeing, im not familar with this site
[03:00] <whacked> i dont even want grub
[03:00]  * mactools facepalms, buh bye
[03:00] <whacked> in case windows get corrupted somedat
[03:00] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: nope not until i figure out if 177 will work or not...
[03:00] <whacked> i wanted to chose OS with F8 option
[03:01] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: ive installed ubuntu so many times for so many different reason and i want this to be my lsat
[03:01] <ne0nlightz> last
[03:01] <whacked> this is going nowhers
[03:01] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: so if you are on 8.10 you could go to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[03:02] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: and enable it from there
[03:02] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: i know but if i install they might totally screw me over. or they might not. ive installed ubuntu at least 25 times, i want to know beforehand if it will work or not
[03:02] <tonsofpcs> BearPerson: actually, thorn is a letter...
[03:02] <tonsofpcs> err, wrong window
[03:02] <whacked> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[03:02] <whacked> Cannot open /dev/sda
[03:02] <whacked> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[03:02] <zeke_> anyone else want to help me make my thumbdrive work?? if i can't put my trek TASon their I can't bang this nerd chick
[03:03] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: google 8.10 177 nvidia and youll see..
[03:03] <travmon69> _VIM_ usually vid is up but flash error occurs no matter what.  it say enter chat click here but cannot click on it till i fullscreen then esc fullscreen then i can click then contiune
[03:03] <zeke_> do it for sweet nerdy love!!!
[03:03] <tuxflavrdwafls> whenever i search synaptic package manager for moblock nothing comes up.  Could someone help me with the repositories?  I think that is the problem, but dont know exactly what to add/change.  please and thanks
[03:03] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: hum sure nvidia, but ok maybe you prefer to use the one from the website of nvidia it is 182 I think
[03:04] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: ill try that...
[03:04] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: one way I prefer is to use the synaptic version
[03:04] <whacked> anyone explain
[03:04] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: it is easy to install easy to remove
[03:04] <Tbolt> can anyone help with a sound card problem ?, i have 8.10 installed on a Dell xps 420 with a Sigmatel (stac92xx) sound card, and i cant seem to get the "mic" input or the "line in" port to work. all the output ports work fine. also, both ports worked when it came from Dell with windows in it. any suggestions ?
[03:04] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: is that waht you are looking for ?
[03:04] <travmon69> _VIM_ can you click an enter chat or the login?
[03:04] <whacked> cool
[03:05] <_VIM_> travmon69: ah i dont even see "Enter Chat Here" button or link ... maybe me and you in the same situation now :/
[03:05] <_VIM_> or do i have to register?
[03:05] <whacked> thanks again for
[03:05] <whacked> ?
[03:05] <lepassive> when booting ubuntu gives me busybox after kinit no resume image . any help ??
[03:05] <tsrk> how can i do "cat *" but including files in subdirectories?
[03:05] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: ill use the website
[03:05] <travmon69> _VIM_ it is a flash issue
[03:05] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: how do i view my graphic card in ubuntu?
[03:05] <_VIM_> travmon69: hmmm let me try Opera
[03:06] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: I mean you can have problems the thigs with synaptic is that if your X is not working or whatever you could simply removed it with a sudo aptitude remove
[03:06] <travmon69> _VIM_ tried every browser
[03:06] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: you could type lspci \ grep nVidia
[03:06] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: you could type lspci | grep nVidia
[03:06] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: kay what driver version is in synaptic
[03:07] <zeahok> would that be all right if a use intrepid(8.10) source list for hardy(8.04)?
[03:07] <yeoj> I want to install phpbb3, however its saying its going to install mysql when i'd rather use postgres (already installed).
[03:07] <yeoj> is there a use flag or somethign?
[03:08] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: aptitude show nvidia-glx
[03:08] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: what version are the synaptic drivers
[03:08] <_VIM_> travmon69: yeah im not seeing it on Opera either and I have working FlaSh and Java ... I'll have to do some google searching to figure this one out. :/
[03:08] <shumba> my USB drive is dead. on lsub can detect it. fdisk -l doesnt. TestDisk doesnt. How can I repair it?
[03:08] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: 173 177 180 71 96
[03:08] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: type aptitude show nvidia-glx
[03:08] <travmon69> _VIM_ googled already
[03:08] <ne0nlightz> No current or candidate version found for nvidia-glx
[03:08] <ne0nlightz> Package: nvidia-glx
[03:08] <ne0nlightz> State: not a real package
[03:08] <ne0nlightz> Provided by: nvidia-glx-173, nvidia-glx-177, nvidia-glx-180, nvidia-glx-71,
[03:08] <ne0nlightz>              nvidia-glx-96
[03:08] <FloodBot2> ne0nlightz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <ne0nlightz> sorry D:
[03:09] <zhjawe> plz help me,the power sound of my notebook is louder in Ubuntu than windows XP,Why is it.
[03:09] <rdw200169> shumba, you could try scandisk from grc
[03:09] <rdw200169> shumba, their software is designed for just that problem
[03:09] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: the last one are the one available
[03:09] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: so i should use synaptic or the site?
[03:09] <zeke_> is there another channel where someon might be able to help? a hardware channel or something?
[03:09] <lepassive> hello ?
[03:09] <yeoj> hi there.
[03:09] <rdw200169> shumba, whoops, i meant spinritte
[03:10] <travmon69> _VIM_  i got aaudio @ http://twit.am/listen
[03:10] <rdw200169> shumba, ***spinrite
[03:10] <lepassive> when booting ubuntu gives me busybox after kinit no resume image . any help ??
[03:10] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: well here on the ubuntu forum I would say use the synaptic if you are stuck somebody would be able to help you
 is that a windows utility?
[03:10] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: which one do i dl do you know
[03:10] <rdw200169> shumba, no, it's usually either a floppy (for old computers) or a very small .iso
[03:11] <zeke_> i'm getting desperate here people
[03:11] <rdw200169> shumba, it is the only software out there that can definitively tell you if your HDD is borked
[03:11] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: it depends of your card you have I use 177 and I'm happy with it
[03:11] <rdw200169> shumba, it *seems* that you have a hardware problem...
[03:11] <travmon69> _VIM_ works on windows but i not going to use windose just for that
[03:11] <whacked> hey thanks for screwing my PC up\
[03:11] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: how do i figure out which to use
[03:11] <rdw200169> shumba, have you tried switching USB cases, first?
[03:12] <jkristheking> anyone here uses the bittorrent client named deluge 1.1.3 please PM me i need help compiling it.
 I think my USB, just the one, is gonged. All others are alright though
[03:12] <jkristheking> if*
[03:12] <rdw200169> shumba, b/c something that *can* happen is this: there may not be enough USB power to spin the drive... some usb ports put out more power than others
[03:12] <whacked> so who can help me get windows back
[03:12] <_VIM_> travmon69: hmmm yeah I dont blame you there :)
[03:12] <ubuntu_> hello
[03:12] <ne0nlightz> whacked: what made it go away
[03:12] <travmon69> WACKED try supergrubdisk
[03:13] <rdw200169> shumba, the inability for linux to see the drive (as a /dev/sd* ) can be something as simple as insufficient power or a bad usb case
[03:13] <travmon69> _VIM_ hmmmm
[03:13] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: I'm not sure
[03:13] <jkristheking> can someone help me compile deluge 1.1.3 pleaese im getting errors!
[03:13] <rdw200169> shumba, the best way to know for sure is plugging the drive directly to the Motherboard
[03:13] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: drats.
[03:13] <whacked> instruction from people that don't know what they are talking about
[03:13] <travmon69> _VIM_ it flash
[03:13] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: ill use website then...
[03:13] <whacked> so pissed off
[03:14] <Thurin1> jkristheking: You're doing it wrong.
[03:14] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: your lspci might tells you
[03:14] <whacked> linux is never going on my computer ever again
[03:14] <Thurin1> jkristheking: Read the deluge documentation /INSTALL
 how
[03:14] <ubuntu_> how to use the  operation effect
[03:14] <jrib> whacked: do you have a question?
[03:14] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: ... what?
[03:14] <ubuntu_> anyone tell me
[03:14] <hlm> whacked, whats wrong?
[03:14] <Thurin1> whacked: Why so bummed?
[03:14] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: type lspci
[03:14] <KaBarsEdge> whacked: aren't you on the wrong channel if you don't want to use Linux
[03:14] <jkristheking> Thurin1 can i PM u?
[03:14] <whacked> how to get my widows back
[03:14] <shumba> rdw200169, i think u've a point with the power issue, although all others have been alright this particular one is a problem
[03:14] <ikt> wow
[03:14] <Thurin1> jkristheking: No, no you can't.
[03:14] <travmon69> _VIM_ i been i long time ubuntu fourms helper first time here asking for hep
[03:14] <hlm> whats the difference between splash and silent splash?
[03:14] <ikt> whacked,  how did you get on irc?
[03:15] <jrib> whacked: that's a bit vague.  When you installed ubuntu, did you overwrite windows or did you resize it?
[03:15] <jkristheking> Thurin1: oh... ok
[03:15] <Thurin1> jkristheking: Read the deluge documentation - it tells you everything, errors usually mean you are missing libraries. -- Get the libs and you'll be fine.
[03:15] <whacked> grub has somehow tricked my HD with windows installed on it to load unbuntu instead
[03:15] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: nope it just told me my card.
[03:15]  * ikt crys
[03:15] <Thurin1> jkristheking: Make sure to run 'make distclean' before you run the compile again.
[03:15] <rdw200169> shumba, the problem is most prominent on laptops
[03:15] <whacked> how can i correct this
[03:15] <leftStanding> hi all, i'm hosting an installfest in a week and i'm wondering if there are any linux distros/howTos that explain the setup?
[03:15] <jkristheking> Thurin1: so get all the stuff it lists? is there anyway to install it all at once instead of looking for it though repo's ?
[03:15] <_VIM_> travmon69: hehe there's nothing wrong with that, I've been using Ubuntu off/on for about 2 years, And I still learn things new everyday in here
[03:15] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: ill just use the site.........
[03:16] <rdw200169> shumba, also, i find it useful when i have a lot of USB devices to use a POWERED USB hub.
[03:16] <travmon69> _WACKED_ need to try supergrubdisk
[03:16] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: if I remember correctly there is a program called Envy that detect your card
[03:16] <Thurin1> whacked: You can't get your windows back if you deleted the partition. -- You should have proceeded slowly and read before you installed. --- Using the entire disks means that everything will be killed.
[03:16] <whacked> and please someone help me that really know what to do ?
[03:16] <alanbshepard70> How do I keep my screensaver from activating while watching fullscreen movies like on hulu.com and other sites?
[03:16] <whacked> i didnt
[03:16] <whacked> you assuming indivual
[03:16] <jrib> !who | whacked
[03:16] <jkristheking> Thurin1: ??
[03:16] <zeke_> can anyone help my thumbdrive issues?
[03:16] <Thurin1> jkristheking: You could always install it from synaptic - but no in general you're better off looking up the proper libraries to make sure the versions are correct
[03:16] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: last time i used envy and installed drivers i had lost my ubuntu.
[03:16] <Mike_92> I have a program made in Visual Basic 6 that loads a flash file from my computer, however for some reason when I try running it in WINE the swf won't load, can someone help?
[03:17] <jkristheking> Thurin1: yeah i wanna install the latest version. not in repo's is very outdated
[03:17] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: well yes usually envy is better for ATI card
[03:17] <Thurin1> jkristheking: Ubuntu has rather old libraries (stable) and it could be that the newest deluge source is looking for newer libs, especially if you see errors like 1.10 => 2.019 blah
[03:17] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: at least in my experience
[03:17] <ne0nlightz> well ill use the site
[03:17] <zeke_> i'm begging you people
[03:17] <travmon69> _VIM_ i used ubuntu longer than you haha and i gettin help form you this is ubuntu best benifit!\
[03:17] <Thurin1> jkristheking: So first you must make a list of the libs, download the libraries source - build the libraries and then build deluge.
[03:17] <_VIM_> lol
[03:17] <zeke_> is there someplace else i can go for help?
[03:17] <rdw200169> shumba, my macbook (regardless of whether or not i use OSX or ubuntu) is notorious for USB power problems
[03:17] <whacked> ok someone send me the link
[03:17] <jkristheking> Thurin1: are you using deluge? if so do you know how to add it to the repo's?
[03:17] <Thurin1> jkristheking: Remember to ./configure --prefix=/usr - or the libs may end up in /usr/local -- same with deluge.
[03:18] <jkristheking> Thurin1: hmm there is a really easy way to install it ill link u it...
[03:18] <travmon69> _VIM_ that what we get for using closed software
[03:18] <Thurin1> jkristheking: The newest versions arent, and um the best way to get a nice new install quickly is to find a .deb package and install via dpkg, or Debi
[03:18] <jkristheking> thurin1: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Installing/Source
[03:18] <shumba> I am going to wait when linux can give us better utilities for resurrecting our dead usb's
[03:18] <whacked> all i did was run a few restore commands for grub and now i cannot boot my windows which had its own HD
[03:18] <Thurin1> jkristheking: I'm in cli.. I can't copy and paste.. I haven't installed GPM :D
[03:19] <ne0nlightz> jp:sf: okay i cant get the website driversto install... so.. ill just getsome from synaptic
[03:19] <_VIM_> travmon69:  i found something
[03:19] <chu_> Hey, is there a channel that is more or less about laptop-support?
[03:19] <travmon69> _VIM_ AKA adobe
[03:19] <jp_sf> zeke_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[03:19] <jkristheking> Thurin1: thats what im using and i looked for .deb and i can't find any new ones
[03:19] <_VIM_> travmon69: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2008-November/061197.html
[03:19] <jrib> whacked: if you want people to help you, you need to answer their questions.  You can't just talk to yourself in the channel, that won't accomplish anything.
[03:19] <whacked> please someone help
[03:19] <qcjn> hi, need help for transferring the photo's from my cellphone with bluetooth
[03:19] <jkristheking> Thurin1: u can't click the link??
[03:19] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: should i install 180 from synaptic? or 177.... which i dont think will work
[03:19] <Thurin1> jkristheking: I'm not using any graphics
[03:19] <Thurin1> :)
[03:19] <hanasaki> anyone know why pidgin would be bringing up the "new IM to" dialog when the 'e' key is typed?
[03:20] <jkristheking> Thurin1: ha, can i like email it to you or somthing?
[03:20] <travmon69> _VIM_ kool  brb in a few!
[03:20] <whacked> ok send me link for restoring grub please
[03:20] <qcjn> it seem to be a problem with a key..or maybe password..but i ve tranferred photos before
[03:20] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: I honnestly don't know what your card is, from the repo 180 is there as well 177, you could try first 177 but you seems not sure about it go for the 180
[03:20] <whacked> however sent it last time
[03:20] <jrib> !grub | whacked
[03:20] <whacked> and
[03:20] <_VIM_> travmon69: ok
[03:20] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: accroding to ubuntu its 8200Geforce
[03:21] <whacked> ok all i did was run a few command listed on this page and now i can no longer boot my windows
[03:21] <jkristheking> Thurin1: ...?
[03:21] <whacked> so how to undo
[03:21] <Thurin1> jkristheking: You could, but you would have been done by now if you read the INSTALL file in your deluge source directory :)
[03:21] <jp_sf> ne0nlightz: I have a 9300 and I use the 177 without a problem
[03:21] <jrib> whacked: could you ever boot windows after installing ubuntu?
[03:21] <whacked> yes
[03:21] <Thurin1> jkristheking: Just go to the directory and read INSTALL/README
[03:21] <whacked> i have windows on it own HD
[03:21] <ne0nlightz> jp_sf: ill go for 180 and if it wont work ill use 177
[03:21] <jkristheking> Thurin1: ok ill try that. thanks
[03:22] <ne0nlightz> brb.
[03:22] <Thurin1> whacked: Check your /boot/grub/menu.lst - make sure it's all in order
[03:22] <jrib> whacked: if you are speaking to me, please use "jrib".  You were able to load windows through grub before/
[03:24] <qcjn> something woth opex
[03:24] <whacked> i have to 2 HD before i came here to get help  i had windows on one HD which i disconnected and then  connected the other HD to PC and installed Linux, then i reconnected HD with Windows but i had to goto into bios and change which HD to boot from day for linux or Windows, because grub would not show windows on list to boot,
[03:24] <qcjn> obex
[03:25] <qcjn> i can send files to my cell, but can t from my cell. And can't plugged them togheter ??
[03:25] <jkristheking> whacked: google a grub loader fix
[03:26] <whacked> so i goto this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub run a few commands now when i go into my Bios and chose the HD that windows is installed on Linux loads instaed now
[03:26] <jrib> whacked: good luck with your issue.  night
[03:26] <whacked> i do not fucking care about that
[03:26] <whacked> i just want my windows back
[03:26] <jrib> whacked: please watch your language
[03:26] <DigitalKiwi> !wtf
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:26] <jkristheking> whacked: i once had that problem before i said screw windows. but google a grub loader and it will remove/fix windows boot and it will work once again
[03:27] <whacked> i dont care
[03:27] <whacked> i do not want linux
[03:27] <jkristheking> whacked: me?
[03:27] <DigitalKiwi> +b
[03:27] <whacked> understand
[03:27] <fred__> hi guys
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> well tats a relief
[03:27] <jkristheking> whacked: im just trying to help you buddy... thats how i got my windows OS back and working
[03:27] <whacked> so how to get back my windows
[03:27] <redvamp128> whacked:  www,ultimatebootcd.com  which has super grub disk on it also and lots of tools
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: i just want to point out, that had you installed like a normal person, none of this would be an issue
[03:27] <whacked> ok so focus how to get windows forget grub ok
[03:28] <whacked> can you do that
[03:28] <redvamp128> whacked:  www.ultimatebootcd.com
[03:28] <jkristheking> redvamp128: exact one i used to fix my boot
[03:28] <redvamp128> whacked lots of tools on that one
[03:28] <jkristheking> wacked: sorry but your stupid. YOU need to REMOVE grub to get you windows boot WORKING AGIAIN
[03:28] <redvamp128> Sorry about pouncing in on that one-- but whacked with that cd you can fix booting errrors and restore your windows boot.
[03:28] <whacked> you just gave me a link with instructions i only tried a few, know you are telling me you dont have the no how to undo
[03:29] <mzz> whacked: you cannot *uninstall* a bootloader. You can install a different one over the current one. So if you want to get rid of grub (and ubuntu) completely I'd ask ##windows for steps on reinstalling the windows boot loader (iirc the windows boot cd can do this)
[03:29] <srid> hi there - my advanced mini dock from lenovo does not work. sound works, but display and USB does not work. any ideas?
[03:29] <jkristheking> wacked: you simply can't undo grub loader.....
[03:29] <srid> they work Vista, but not on Ubuntu and Windows XP
[03:29] <whacked> i tried just a few things from this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[03:29] <srid> work on*
[03:29] <mzz> whacked: alternatively you can reconfigure grub to chainload windows, but I don't know how best to do that with ubuntu's grub setup
[03:29] <mzz> whacked: if you're trying to get rid of ubuntu and grub the link you just gave won't help, iirc.
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> whacked: all i did was give you a link...
[03:29] <whacked> and now you are sending me other places to solve issue
[03:29] <whacked> how lame
[03:30] <mzz> whacked: that's because you changed your problem description.
[03:30] <redvamp128> whacked: here is a good page explaining how grub works -- (and yes I know it is not a comunity link) grub page <http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm>
[03:30] <whacked> all i did was run a few commands listed
[03:30] <nickrud> whacked, did you read and make sure you knew what those 'few commands' did?
[03:30] <jkristheking> wacked: your lucky your getting help by us acting like this
[03:30] <Leviathan> whacked: how about you learn how to operate grub and read it's config, and understand your hardware
[03:30] <whacked> losers
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> this is why we can't have nice things
[03:30] <chu_> ll
[03:30] <Leviathan> LOL
[03:31] <jkristheking> wacked: ok, fine have fun with your grub. and have fun getting windows back on your own
[03:31] <chu_> Nice whacked. They're helping you, so you call them losers. Intelligent,
[03:31] <Ryan_Chau> hey
[03:31] <Ryan_Chau> does anyone know the command
[03:31] <Ryan_Chau> to connect to the internet
[03:31] <mzz> err, yeah, that kinda stops me from trying to help
[03:31] <whacked> how about you figure it out smarty pannts
[03:31] <Ryan_Chau> using ubuntu ?
[03:31] <FloodBot2> Ryan_Chau: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:31] <travmon69> _VIM_ k me back need to grab a brew..  i looked @ the site it was 64 bit i use 32b  same same issue though. i guess it flash and not linux
[03:31] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: it tends to just work automagically (provided your network hardware is detected and something is running dhcp, which is often the case)
[03:31] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: what specifically isn't working?
[03:32] <Ryan_Chau> well, it doesnt;' detect it
[03:32] <nickrud> whacked, why not go afk for a bit, cool down, and come back when you're ready to explain what you did?
[03:32] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: it doesn't detect what exactly?
[03:32] <Ryan_Chau> i put in the eternet cable
[03:32] <evilGUI> I have a question I just ran nmap to check for open ports on my server and after doing so I couldn't resolve any domain names for about 3 minutes what could this be?
[03:32] <Ryan_Chau> and i turn on firefox
[03:32] <whacked> grub> root (hdX,Y) grub> setup (hd0)
[03:32] <Ryan_Chau> and it doesn't go to google
[03:32] <whacked> that all i did
[03:32] <Ryan_Chau> so i tried sudo pppoeconf
[03:32] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I think earlier you said you were on jaunty -- try room #ubuntu+1
[03:32] <evilGUI> I tried it again and the same thing happend
[03:32] <whacked> and you cant tell me how to undo
[03:32] <whacked> what a joke
[03:32] <Ryan_Chau> and it told me it wasnt able to resolve the problem
[03:32] <DigitalKiwi> with the X, Y? and not substitute numbers?
[03:33] <Ryan_Chau> i was looking for something similar to ipconfig /renew or something that window uses
[03:33] <evilGUI> Odd thing is this effect every machine on my network.
[03:33] <nickrud> whacked, ok, that's good. It installed grub on .... well, I can but if you're gonna act a twit I'll help someone else. See ya.
[03:33] <Ryan_Chau> it doesn't seem to detect my modem
[03:33] <mzz> whacked: uninstalling a bootloader makes no sense, and you still haven't explained if you're trying to fix up grub or get rid of it (iirc you changed which you wanted halfway through)
[03:33] <travmon69> _REDVAMP_  all linux issue
[03:33] <whacked> really you more impressive every second
[03:33] <redvamp128> whacked:  Yes you can get your windows back with the UltimatebootCd
[03:33] <Ryan_Chau> it does detect that there is a wired connnection
[03:33] <evilGUI> effects*
[03:33] <Digitalcheffe> my cpu fans arn't running any ideas?
[03:33] <evilGUI> Digitalcheffe: Check power?
[03:33] <DARKGuy> open the PC
[03:33] <DARKGuy> :P
[03:33] <nickrud> whacked, come back in a couple hours when you've cooled down.
[03:33] <Digitalcheffe> lol
[03:34] <Digitalcheffe> Checked all the basics
[03:34] <redvamp128> whacked:  Okay simple fix log into recovery console using the XP install Cd -- type two commands (fixmbr and fixboot) then should work using the MBR.
[03:34] <cookie> hi
[03:34] <chu_> hey cookie
[03:34] <Leviathan> whacked: There is no undo, this is why you have to do your homework before doing such things
[03:34] <DigitalKiwi> whacked is gone
[03:34] <DARKGuy> homework is so 90's.
[03:34] <deeejz> hey can someone help me with my wireless problem?:)
[03:34] <DARKGuy> welcome to google
[03:34] <DARKGuy> ^_^.
[03:34] <Ryan_Chau> i did go to manually config, and i set it as DHCP that didn't work, and i set it back to roaming also
[03:35] <travmon69> _redvam128_ all linux issue
[03:35] <Ryan_Chau> i reset my modem a few times too, i'm on a DSL connection, doesn't require ppoe
[03:35] <jp_sf> !google
[03:35] <cianuro> Hola
[03:35] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: if it does see the ethernet connection I'm not sure I can help without knowing what is supposed to happen after that (what kind of network you're connected to)
[03:35] <Fireblazer> Hey!?!?
[03:35] <cianuro> Hola
[03:35] <cianuro> alguien que me entiendaaa
[03:35] <chu_> Hey Fireblazer, ask away mate :)
[03:35] <deeejz> HI i need help enabling my wireless, can anyone help me?
[03:35] <whacked> ok i am ok]
[03:36]  * mzz frowns
[03:36] <Ryan_Chau> i don't know if it "sees" it how do I check? the networking icon on the taskbar says wired connection
[03:36] <chu_> deeejz can you provide any information?
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:36] <deeejz> yeah haha sorry
[03:36] <Ryan_Chau> but it isnt sending any data out or recieveing any
[03:36] <jp_sf> !es | cianuro
[03:36] <Fireblazer> I'm just playin' with Pidgin
[03:36] <redvamp128> whacked:  ﻿Okay simple fix log into recovery console using the XP install Cd -- type two commands (fixmbr and fixboot) then should work using the MBR.
[03:36] <Ryan_Chau> but when i plug the same wire into my pc, it works just fine.
[03:36] <cianuro> Holaaa
[03:36] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: that's probably sufficient. I'm a bit oldfashioned and would often look at the output from /sbin/ifconfig.
[03:36] <jkristheking> Thurin1: if your still here i've givin up on the build. it keeps looping info which i can't make out. ill just use the previous version which crashed on me
[03:36] <whacked> listen all i did was type in command this find /grub/stage1Using this information, set the root device (fill in X,Y with whatever the find command returned): grub> root (hdX,Y)Install Grub: grub> setup (hd0)
[03:36] <Fireblazer> With support, should that be done in PM to avoid chat flood?
[03:36] <redvamp128> whacked:  or download the ultimatebootcd (those are your two choices)
[03:36] <Ryan_Chau> okay how do i do that?  (this is my first time touching linux) is it
[03:36] <whacked> thats it
[03:37] <Ryan_Chau> termnal, and i put in ifconfig ?
[03:37] <nickrud> whacked, that's ok, now you just need to add windows to the grub boot.
[03:37] <deeejz> ok dual booting vista and ubuntu, in vista i can connect to my router fine but in ubuntu my wireless is disabled, im running a compaq presario c700, right now im on ubuntu through a wired connection but i cant stay like this all the time
[03:37] <Digitalcheffe> can someone point in me in ther right direction on how to get my cpu fan or work. Power ok, everything else looks fine
[03:37] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ issue with all linux distro
[03:37] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: /sbin/ifconfig (/sbin/ isn't on the normal search path for users)
[03:37] <whacked> and know iam asking how to undo this      ?
[03:37] <jkristheking> Wacked: listen to RED he knows what he's doing
[03:37] <mzz> whacked: have you actually read what people in here have been telling you/
[03:37] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: do you know what wireless device your laptop has?
[03:37] <jasehelp> hello
[03:37] <jkristheking> wacked: LISTEN TO RED. thats waht fixed mine...
[03:37] <nickrud> whacked, do you want to have windows boot automatically, or be able to choose between windows and ubuntu at boot?
[03:37] <deeejz> what do you mean what wireless device?
[03:37] <Leviathan> whacked: There is no "undo"
[03:38] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I have flash and that site works for me
[03:38] <jkristheking> scew it im done helping this douche
[03:38] <Guest> umm.. Hi?
[03:38] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I have flash9 installed on 8.04.2
[03:38] <Ryan_Chau> okay, but in short, it should auto detect once the wire is connected and configure to connect to the internet by itself?
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: ok.. you want to get on a wireless network, so you must have a wireless device
[03:38] <cookie> whacked did you try ctrl+z?
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> jkristheking: lol, i came to that conclusiona LONG time ago
[03:38] <Ryan_Chau> that is if i have a dsl modem and it is connected properly to the computer
[03:38] <mzz> cookie: you're either mean or confused :P
[03:38] <deeejz> yeah i have a netgear wireless router
[03:38] <cookie> :)'
[03:38] <jkristheking> indygunfreak: ha, he's not listening to anyone at all. so im done
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> jkristheking: yup..
[03:38] <ZING> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=280313325439
[03:38] <whacked> troy@Whacked:~$ fixmbr
[03:38] <whacked> bash: fixmbr: command not found
[03:38] <whacked> troy@Whacked:~$
[03:39] <Ryan_Chau> it should be able to configure which network adapter, i believe i only have one, but it shows two, and it should configure it?
[03:39] <Digitalcheffe> can someone point in me in ther right direction on how to get my cpu fan or work. Power ok, everything else looks fine
[03:39] <chu_> deeejz - Do you have ntdiswrapper (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/)? We know your wireless works (on Vista), so we should just need to find the driver
[03:39] <whacked> ok next
[03:39] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ you got the click to enter chat button?
[03:39] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: that depends on how normal the modem is. I'm pretty sure it should work for most of them.
[03:39] <jkristheking> indygunfreak: hey do you use any bittorrent clients?
[03:39] <nickrud> whacked, he said to boot the windows cd for those commands. Read back, answer my question about booting
[03:39] <Ryan_Chau> what modems would cause the problem?
[03:39] <deeejz> no i dont have that i take it i need that haha:P
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> jkristheking: transmission usually.. it works fine for me.
[03:39] <redvamp128> whacked:  you didn't listen to me-- boot with the xp into the xp recovery console
[03:39] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: I don't have enough experience with odd modems to answer that one.
[03:39] <Guest> wow, i so should not be in here.
[03:39] <jp_sf> IndyGunFreak, deeejz: presario c700 is atheros you will need madwifi
[03:39] <chu_> Yeah, though that isn't everything, it's the starting point.
[03:39] <mzz> Guest: why not? :)
[03:39] <nickrud> Guestsure you should
[03:39] <tsrk> how do I install cgi for apache?
[03:40] <deeejz> how do i get madwifi?
[03:40] <redvamp128> whacked:  the XP install cd -- choose the recovery mode option -- then choose the xp you want to sign into -- then type those commands.
[03:40] <jkristheking> indyguyfreak: nah i used it before i don't like it cuz i have aLOT of torrents, im trying to compile deluge but it keeps looping on install
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: open a terimnal and type "lspci" no quotes, hit enter, and then pastebin the results and give me the link
[03:40] <Sarah> because im already lost.
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | deeejz
[03:40] <whacked> i dont care about linux right now i just want windows back ok
[03:40] <Ryan_Chau> okay, and if i were to connect it to a router, it should also detect by itself?
[03:40] <jkristheking> whacked: you need TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE
[03:40] <nickrud> whacked, then redvamp128 's advice will do it quickly
[03:40] <chu_> deeejz - http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ ?
[03:40] <Digitalcheffe> cpu fan not running , anyone have any ideas . power is on everything looks ok
[03:40] <whacked> i aM TRYING
[03:40] <jkristheking> wacked: i would say screw windows it sux :P
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> jkristheking: well, ther's a linux version of utorrent, which i've found is OK.. azereus gets good reviews, but i hate it... ktorrent...
[03:41] <Fireblazer> Windows is ok-ish
[03:41] <Fireblazer> Vista is the thing that sucks
[03:41] <jkristheking> indyguyfreak: can i pm u?
[03:41] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: if it runs dhcp (which is common) it should get an ip and the like from that automatically, yes.
[03:41] <Guest25449> i agree
[03:41] <jkristheking> same
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> jkristheking: sure
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> XP wasn't that bad, vista si a mess
[03:41] <Fireblazer> Of course compared to linux, everything kinda falls short
[03:41] <Guest25449> Question: help me really quick?
[03:41] <mzz> Guest25449: just ask
[03:41] <Fireblazer> Although OSX is cool
[03:41] <nickrud> !ask | Guest25449
[03:41] <Ryan_Chau> okay, last question , should i leave it on DHCP, on the manual config, or should i leave it as roaming?
[03:41] <chu_> Also, deeejaz, what version of Ubuntu, if you know?
[03:41] <deeejz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119030/
[03:41] <jp_sf> !ask | guest25449
[03:42] <mzz> heh
[03:42] <mzz> Ryan_Chau: check what the system it works on ends up using
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: you currently have an internet connection on that machine?
[03:42] <Guest25449> ok, cant get ubuntu boot thingy on laptop to connect to internet, how do i fix it, its not recognizing the router.
[03:42] <nickrud> ubottu used to be better with repeated factoids
[03:42] <deeejz> yeah a wired connection
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> !prefix | deeejz
[03:42] <jp_sf> !echo
[03:42] <whacked> can someone talk privately to me that can help
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: gimme a sec, i'll get you instructions to get that working
[03:43] <jp_sf> nickrud: that's why don't know about echo
[03:43] <whacked> scrolling is getting annoying
[03:43] <Ryan_Chau> alright thanks
[03:43] <Guest25449> somebody pm me please
[03:43] <chu_> Thanks IndyGunFreak
[03:43] <Fireblazer> brb
[03:43] <deeejz> indy- thanks so much
[03:43] <jp_sf> !pm | guest25449
[03:43] <d2f> ck sandrabbw
[03:44] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ are you able to click to enter chat an it ask for user login ?
[03:44] <Digitalcheffe> How do i get my cpu fan working. it has power and is connected
[03:44] <deeejz> chu- if i download madwifi will that solve all my problems? haha
[03:44] <redvamp128> travmon69:  it says user is not online
[03:45] <chu_> I'm not sure, sorry deeejz, just reading a topic on the Ubuntu forums about your laptop actually. Are you running 8.04/8.10?
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: do not download madwifi for that device.. gimme a second
[03:45] <redvamp128> travmon69:  you are talking about the live from later
[03:45] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: and it doesn't kick in even if you put some load on the cpu, and it does work before ubuntu boots?
[03:45] <deeejz> indy: haha ok
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: are you on 8.04 or 8.10?
[03:45] <chu_> Gust25449, sorry I will help you in a minute.
[03:45] <jp_sf> deeejz: most likely
[03:45] <zeke> well i did some googling and its an automounting issue
[03:45] <Fireblazer> gtg
[03:45] <Fireblazer> Cyall later
[03:46] <soreau> mzz: I really need to know..
[03:46] <zeke> i restarted and i mounted it by hand
[03:46] <deeejz> indy: im on 8.10
[03:46] <cookie> anyone pretty comfortable with the exec() family in C? private chat? i have a few questions
[03:46] <zeke> thanks anyway people
[03:46] <soreau> mzz: The command to connect to the ineternet thing
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: ok, go to system/admin/hardware drivers
[03:46] <zeke> now i can get laid by another nerd
[03:46] <Digitalcheffe> mzz. nothing with putting load on it. let me reboot
[03:46] <redvamp128> travmon69:  you are talking about this site http://live.twit.tv/
[03:46] <mzz> soreau: what?
[03:46] <qcjn> problem bluetooth obex ??
[03:46] <deeejz> indy- aright im there
[03:46] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ stickam issuse but bug is there when vid is up cant enter chat unless fullscreen teen esc to allow button to allow cliclk on
[03:46] <whacked> ok i being nice here
[03:47] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: (I'm wondering if this is hardware or software)
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: one more question, are you using 32bit, or 64bit?
[03:47] <jp_sf> zeke_: datarecovery is usually your friend
[03:47] <soreau> mzz: They said me a connect this ineternet for a download to package
[03:47] <deeejz> 32
[03:47] <chu_> According to the second post in this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625071), your wireless should work deeejz if you enable the restricted drivers in support center
[03:47] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I get as far as it asking me for the email and password
[03:47] <whacked> i am sure those 2 steps i did must be able to be undone
[03:47] <Guest25449> Help me get ubuntu connected to internet, PM me
[03:47] <jkristheking> anyone know how long it takes to compile deluge 1.1.3????
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: ok.. you should see an option there... "Support for Atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards" right?
[03:47] <srid> folks - is anyone using firefox PGO build in linux?
[03:47] <nsadmin> Guest25449: pm doesn't work, ask here
[03:47] <deeejz> indy: yes
[03:47] <Guest25449> i did and i got run over
[03:47] <soreau> mzz: and i need the commnd
[03:48] <jim__> hello
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: highlight that one, and at the bottom, click deactivate... its gonna tell you you have to restart, but don't do it just yet, just click close.
[03:48] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ so flash9 works for that first try?
[03:48] <redvamp128> yes
[03:48] <mzz> soreau: I have no idea what you're talking about
[03:48] <deeejz> indy: there is no deactivate it just says activate
[03:48] <soreau> mzz: plz hlp i luv u long time
[03:48] <Digitalcheffe> mzz: i believe it to be software, stops running when the grub starts to load.get nothing what so ever after that
[03:49] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: type this w/o quotes... "/join #indygunfreak"
[03:49] <redvamp128> travmon69:  you should be able to uninstall your flash 10 and install 9 from packages for the hardy
[03:49] <whacked> is some going to stop booting me anytime soon
[03:49] <jp_sf> Guest25449: ok so you want to connect your computer to the internet right ? what does that mean you have a local network ? you want to plug it ? you want to configure your lan card your wifi card ?
[03:49] <redvamp128> travmon69: Ubuntu -- Ubuntu Packages Search <http://packages.ubuntu.com/>
[03:49] <jkristheking> ANYONE!!!, did anyone ever compile deluge 1.1.3?? i need help. it looks to me like it's looping on compile. please help me
[03:49] <whacked> i am being kind
[03:49] <whacked> so please stop messing with me
[03:49] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ so where can i get flash9 for ubuntu 8.10 an 9.04?
[03:50] <Brando753> hey how do you build a tarball ?
[03:50] <redvamp128> travmon69:  pm?
[03:50] <travmon69> sorry missed it
[03:50] <Digitalcheffe> mzz. i tried to looking some stuff up on google but got mixed results. I see you got you hands full just pm me when you get a sec i will continue to look online
[03:50] <jkristheking> can someone help me with deluge 1.1.3 it looks like it's looping on compile
[03:50] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: not sure what's up with that, unless it's a laptop and you're missing some kernel support, but that'd be weird if this is a stock ubuntu kernel
[03:50] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: doubt I can help, I don't really do laptops
[03:50] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  ubuntuforums   travmon69
[03:51] <RHorse> Brando753: first, get some tar.
[03:51] <Brando753> get soome tar?
[03:51] <mzz> jkristheking: I refuse to help if you're installing system-wide. If you're installing into your homedir (no "sudo" is being used) pastebin the compile log
[03:51] <Digitalcheffe> its not a laptop , frankestein desktop
[03:51] <Digitalcheffe> mzz, its not a laptop , frankestein desktop
[03:51] <RHorse> Brando753: yes, some tar
[03:51] <nsadmin> Guest25449: so what kind of network connection do you have
[03:51] <mzz> jkristheking: (if it is looping ctrl+c it and pastebin the last few dozen lines)
[03:51] <jkristheking> mzz: can i pm u?
[03:51] <Brando753> what do you mean?
[03:51] <toast> hi everyone. While I have been a linux user/admin and what not I am new to the install process to Ubunto. Seems fairly easy and strait forward. The real issue why my install failed may or may not have to do with a possible disk error but not sure. When I got to the partition of the drive, set up the root partion as ex3 and swap as 10-12% respectivly of the hard drive. I got the error of "the creation of swap space in partion
[03:51] <Brando753> i have the file :D
[03:51] <mzz> jkristheking: preferably not, just stay in here and make sure you mention my nick when talking to me
[03:52] <jkristheking> mzz: it's gonna flood the chat if i don't pm
[03:52] <mzz> toast: cut off at "swap space in partion"
[03:52] <redvamp128> travmon69:  check your pm
[03:52] <mzz> !pastebin | jkristheking
[03:52] <RHorse> Brando753: tar --help
[03:52] <jp_sf> jkristheking; pastebin is your friend otherwie aptitude show deluge-torrent show me a package
[03:52] <toast> mzz, I know :)
[03:53] <whacked> ok i really like some help
[03:53] <nsadmin> Guest25449 if you want help with your net connection that's going to require two-way conversation
[03:53] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ kool thanx i tryin but i a two finger typer
[03:53] <Brando753> that was useless i just want to know how to compile it
[03:53] <whacked> find /boot/grub/stage Using this information, set the root device (fill in X,Y with whatever the find command returned):
[03:53] <mustangg> hey the chan.. Is there a way to specify the pasv option when mapping an ftp location through nautilus?
[03:53] <Digitalcheffe> mzz, its not a laptop , frankestein desktop
[03:53] <jkristheking> mzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119038/
[03:54] <jkristheking> mzz: wait it finaly stoped.
[03:54] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: not sure what's up then (hw sensors/fan control doing something weird is possible, but I don't know why it'd be doing that without you explicitly telling it to)
[03:54] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I just privated you
[03:54] <Monaro427> Hi. My sounds used to work fine but now I get this error message when I try to run a test: "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 !". Any ideas how I can fix this without a reboot. I'm running 8.10 with all the latest fixes.
[03:54] <Baatti> Hi, how can I completely disable compizconfig?
[03:54] <whacked>  from the webpage that someone sent me i just did the following find /grub/stage1Using this information, set the root device (fill in X,Y with whatever the find command returned): grub> root (hdX,Y)Install Grub: grub> setup (hd0)Exit Grub: grub> quit
[03:54] <whacked> thats all
[03:54] <jkristheking> mzz: it took that long to compile? it was like 10 minutes
[03:55] <travmon69> _vim_ thank for your help
[03:55] <Digitalcheffe> mzz. i didn't tell it to do that. is there a file i can check config settings in? i will check bios
[03:55] <Baatti> I've already done sudo apt-get remove compizconfig-settings-manager and sudo apt-get autoremove... but my compiz settings are still active, even after a reboot
[03:55] <Brando753> how do u compile a tar.bz2 file?
[03:55] <jkristheking> whacked: im gonna pm you and tell u what to do and how to it it ok? do you accept my help?
[03:55] <Tbolt> can anyone help with a sound card problem ?, i have 8.10 installed on a Dell xps 420 with a Sigmatel (stac92xx) sound card, and i cant seem to get the "mic" input or the "line in" port to work. all the output ports work fine. also, both ports worked when it came from Dell with windows in it. any suggestions ?
[03:55] <mzz> jkristheking: 10 minutes is not excessively long for compiling a nontrivial package on a normal-ish system
[03:55] <toast> so has ubunto failed to install because of some strange swap space issue ??
[03:55] <whacked> yes please
[03:55] <nsadmin> Brando753: a tar.bz2 can contain anything
[03:55] <whacked> thank you
[03:55] <soreau> Baatti: Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Vis Effects>None
[03:55] <redvamp128> travmon69:  did you get my pm?
[03:55] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: not sure where ubuntu would have this.
[03:55] <jkristheking> mzz: oh ok i've never really compiled
[03:55] <Baatti> Brando753, first you need to unpack it... tar xvf filename
[03:55] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  not yet waiting for the server
[03:55] <toast> http://www.pastebin.ca/1339718
[03:56] <Baatti> soreau thank you
[03:56] <redvamp128> travmon69:  This is only for you-- Uninstall your Flash10 from Synaptic Package manager -- then grab the deb for 8.04. link is here http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.152.0ubuntu1~hardy1_i386.deb
[03:56] <Brando753> well how do i compile a tar source file
[03:57] <Digitalcheffe> mzz: great it might be awhile  comp being a pain
[03:57] <wolter> Brando753, untar it first.
[03:57] <Jare1> is netbook integrated into Intrepid Ibex?
[03:57] <Brando753> then what?
[03:57] <wolter> Brando753, you just have to right-click, extract here
[03:57] <Jare1> like ubuntu-netbook-remix
[03:57] <jp_sf> !compile | Brando753
[03:57] <Brando753> i extracted it
[03:57] <redvamp128> travmon69:  then restart firefox -- That should fix your issue..
[03:57] <wolter> Brando753, then read the readme
[03:57] <wolter> or install
[03:57] <jkristheking> c ya guys
[03:57] <jkristheking> mzz: thank you for trying to help me!
[03:57] <Tniffoc> Anybody know how to remove the FFox form Fiesty? I can't find it without just doing a manual un-install, which I would like to avoid.
[03:57] <wolter> Brando753, you probbly will have to run ./condigure && make && make install
[03:58] <toast> so what would cause the error of "the creation of swap space in pation #5 of scsi 1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed? this was just after I created the partion in a new ubunto install?
[03:58] <whacked> king you there
[03:58] <jkristheking> wacked: yea
[03:58] <w_nicram> can someone tell me how and what runlevel to run in following: blockdev --setra 16384 /dev/sdb
[03:59] <redvamp128> travmon69:  did you get that?
[03:59] <mustangg> wondering if there's any way to reduce the units used to display progress by nautilus for file copy and such
[03:59] <nellery> what's the terminal command to open up system monitor?
[04:00] <Sjimmie> gnome-system-monitor
[04:00] <Fireblazer> Anyone know a wifi card compatible with wireshark, kismet, etc.
[04:00] <Fireblazer> ???
[04:00] <jkristheking> stop kicking wacked please
[04:00] <jkristheking> thank you
[04:00] <Sjimmie> Fireblazer: google it
[04:00] <nellery> is there any way to open up a terminal without access to the panel (gnome-panel) crashed
[04:00] <usser> Fireblazer, intel 3945 with latest drivers from intrepid works for me
[04:00] <Fireblazer> I did
[04:00] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ unread messages 0
[04:01] <Fireblazer> Didn't see anything
[04:01] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I sent you a pm in chat
[04:01] <Digitalcheffe> fireblazer: check this page out http://wiki.remote-exploit.org/index.php/Main_Page
[04:01] <jkristheking> STOP KICKING WACKED
[04:01] <jkristheking> THANK YOU!!!!!!!
[04:01] <RHorse> nellery: CTL alt F1
[04:01] <FloodBot2> jkristheking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:01] <n2diy> nellery: ctrl+alt+F2
[04:01] <jkristheking> stfu im not flooding..
[04:02] <chu_> Hey, is there a simple command line utility for changing network details? Like, for instance DHCP server etc? I have a feeling it assumes the address is 192.168.0.x where it is 192.168.2.x - I could be wrong though.
[04:02] <redvamp128> jkristheking:  I think why you multiple ! it thinks it is a flood
[04:02] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ i gonna look around to see
[04:02] <n2diy> chu_: ifconfig
[04:02] <RHorse> chu ifconfig iwconfig
[04:02] <Digitalcheffe> fireblazer: specifically this page http://wiki.remote-exploit.org/index.php/HCL:Wireless
[04:02] <chu_> Thanks
[04:02] <jkristheking> redvamp128: ha i know, im just messing around
[04:02] <keres> when installing xubuntu on a crappy laptop i get to the first dialog window, the mouse cursor changes depending on where it is in the dialog but the dialog is completely empty
[04:02] <infomomo> Guys how to update the programs in my Application list after installing ???
[04:02] <Fireblazer> kk
[04:03] <redvamp128> travmon69:  Uninstall your flash 10 from Synaptic Package Manger
[04:03] <Ne0n_Lightz> jp_sf: i got no gui on boot.
[04:03] <infomomo> recently installed apps still missing
[04:03] <redvamp128> travmon69:  then get the deb for 9 from this link http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.152.0ubuntu1~hardy1_i386.deb
[04:03] <Fireblazer> gtg
[04:03] <Fireblazer> bbl
[04:03] <redvamp128> travmon69:  then restart firfox and it should then work
[04:03] <Crayboff> alright, this flashing whenever I play a graphic intensive game is very, very annoying. is there a way to stop it without turning off my effects? when I do turn off the effects it doesn't blink
[04:04] <Ne0n_Lightz> can someone help me? i dled my graphi card drivers on 8.10 and i have no gui on boot
[04:04] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ you sent to travmon69?    hardy repo works ok for 8.10 an 9.04?
[04:05] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I have heard it working for flash 9 on 8.10 but no word if it works on 9.10
[04:05] <chu_> n2diy, so it would just be ifconfig netmask 192.168.2.10 (being the server's address)?
[04:05] <n2diy> 9.04 is out already?
[04:05] <chu_> Alpha
[04:06] <kdorf> Does anyone know how I might go about getting GLX working in Xephyr? I have acceleration working fine in X now. Tried running Xephyr with -extension GLX, but every time I run a GL program it just fails with Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":10.0"
[04:06] <keres> when installing xubuntu on a crappy laptop i get to the first dialog window, the mouse cursor changes depending on where it is in the dialog but the dialog is completely empty
[04:06] <redvamp128> correction 9.04
[04:06] <Ne0n_Lightz> can someone help me? i dled my graphi card drivers on 8.10 and i have no gui on boot
[04:06] <Tniffoc> Can you file share with the hard drive if you boot off of a flash drive?
[04:06] <n2diy> chu_: don't know, never setup a server, check man ifconfig?
[04:06] <dee25> having trouble installing the adobe
[04:06] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I have heard it working for 8.10 but no word yet if it will work in 9.04 (flash 9 that is)
[04:06] <dee25> flash player
[04:06] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ i check it and let you you know! thanks for the lin an help so far!
[04:07] <RHorse> dee25, go to adobe site
[04:07] <mustangg> Crayboff: using ATI ? others (me as well) get that too.. e.g http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=930742
[04:07] <Digitalcheffe> mzz: now my boot process hangs , couldn't get into bios. something about 8254 timer
[04:07] <dee25> ok
[04:07] <dee25> im on it
[04:07] <chu_> Ha's actually how I reached the question (reading the man page), nevermind :)
[04:07] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: what did you change?
[04:07] <Finnish_> Can I transfer data via Remote Desktop Viewer?
[04:07] <Crayboff> mustangg: yes, are there alternatives?
[04:07] <DIFH-iceroot> RHorse: why should he go to the adobe site if the package is in the repos?
[04:07] <RHorse> dee25: dl the gzip file for v. 10
[04:07] <Digitalcheffe> nothing couldn't get into bios
[04:07] <redvamp128> RHorse:  and dee25: just enable restirced and flash should be there in synaptic package manger (either 10 or 9 depending on distro)
[04:07] <cookie> is there a law that prohibits forking children for fun
[04:07] <meoblast001> does ubuntu use pthreads?
[04:07] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: also, what's "something" (try photographing the screen since you probably can't copy/paste where it hangs)?
[04:08] <tritium> cookie: stop that
[04:08] <meoblast001> i'm compiling ffmpeg
[04:08] <dee25> i have debian
[04:08] <cookie> :(
[04:08] <tritium> dee25: /j #debian
[04:08] <mzz> meoblast001: probably, depending on what it actually means
[04:08] <mustangg> Crayboff: so far the only thing I've found references a driver workaround but for a version of the driver I've not found
[04:08] <computerMoney> Hello people, please help me to make my linksys wireless g adapter work with ubuntu
[04:08] <cookie> like while(1){fork()}   isn't punishable is it?
[04:09] <Digitalcheffe> mzz: hangs on the orange bar
[04:09] <Crayboff> mustangg: crap, well did you get the workaround to work?
[04:09] <tbwen> How do i boot windows xp? I can't seem to be able to get into it
[04:09] <cybliss> !wireless | cookie
[04:09] <RHorse> !question > computerMoney
[04:09] <Ne0n_Lightz> can someone help me? i dled my graphi card drivers on 8.10 and i have no gui on boot
[04:09] <cookie> ?
[04:09] <arghh2d2> computerMoney: ndiswrapper
[04:10] <cybliss> sorry cookie...
[04:10] <dee25> i have debian which file to dl for flash player
[04:10] <dee25> tz or
[04:10] <Kirsch> hey guys, i'm setting up apache from repository and for some reason i can't get AuthUserFile to work, it seems to complete ignore it and i'm loading the right mod for it
[04:10] <dee25> the deb
[04:10] <computerMoney> Awesome argh thank you i will try it again
[04:10] <cookie> haha I was like...  not the answer i expected :)
[04:10] <tritium> dee25: this channel's stop is ubuntu support
[04:10] <arghh2d2> ndisgtk if you want a gui frontend
[04:10] <Kirsch> i'm using it in combination with dav_vn
[04:10] <RHorse> computerMoney: what chipset?
[04:10] <Kirsch> *dav_svn
[04:10] <cybliss> cookie =) lol
[04:10] <arghh2d2> ndisgtk if you want a gui frontend computerMoney
[04:10] <mustangg> Crayboff: that's the problem. can't find that version and it is only a workaround, for which I have no details. plus my set does that even with compiz on the least effect level...
[04:10] <n2diy> Ok, I just installed 8.04 on a test box, now I want to lock it down before going "live" with it. I want to install a root kit detector, and a firewall, suggestions?
[04:10] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: what chipset is your wireless device?
[04:11] <arghh2d2> ralink
[04:11] <arghh2d2> i bet
[04:11] <computerMoney> Hmm, linksys wireless g
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: no....
[04:11] <computerMoney> Atheros i believe
[04:11] <arghh2d2> computerMoney: lsusb says?
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: open a terminal, and type "lspci" and see how it identifies your wireless device
[04:11] <Crayboff> mustangg: augh! my computer ALWAYS finds a way to screw up in ways no one can fix
[04:11] <RHorse> computerMoney: if it's atheros , you can prolly get it to work with cli tools
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> oh is it a usb device?.. i thougth he said internal
[04:11] <arghh2d2> or lspci
[04:11] <arghh2d2> im not sure
[04:11] <usser> n2diy, its all there apparmor is your protection and ufw is a firewall
[04:12] <computerMoney> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 13b1:0020 Linksys WUSB54GC 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]
[04:12] <mzz> Crayboff: still happens with compiz (desktop effects) off?
[04:12] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: have fun... ;)
[04:12] <mzz> ah, you already answered
[04:12] <Crayboff> mzz: if i turn off all the effects it does not happen
[04:12] <usser> n2diy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
[04:12] <RHorse> yea, ralink is a bitch
[04:12] <InCrypto_work> u sure u have the right drivers installed ?
[04:13] <InCrypto_work> i usually install em thru cli
[04:13] <n2diy> usser: interesting, thanks.
[04:13] <paragonc_> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 - and i can see my wireless network (which i turned off WEP) and i still cant connect
[04:13] <mustangg> Crayboff: well what I found mentions v8.x something and ATI proprietary is now 9.1 but it still occurs fo me.. don't know what is going on with the other ati options.
[04:13] <computerMoney> Ooh no. I haven't heard of cli.
[04:13] <mzz> Crayboff: will get fixed eventually by dri2, afaik. I don't know how to speed that up without a time machine or spending money or your own time
[04:13] <computerMoney> I tried to use my native chipset and couldn't get madwifi or ndiswrapper to work.
[04:13] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: well whats your "native" chipset
[04:13] <mzz> Crayboff: (I don't know about fglrx (the proprietary drivers))
[04:13] <tritium> computerMoney: sure you have.  cli = command line interface
[04:13] <redvamp128> dee25: If you are running ubuntu -- system - administration- software sources -check mark resticted and multiverse-- click close then open synaptic package manger -- Flash should then appear on the list.
[04:13] <gaintsura> is there a way to save my marked changes in synaptic?
[04:14] <mustangg> Crayboff: so I guess yeah, what mzz says.. :)
[04:14] <dee25> nah man
[04:14] <Crayboff> mzz: any place to keep track of progress on dri2?
[04:14] <dee25> im not running ubuntu
[04:14] <dee25> im running debian
[04:14] <computerMoney> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[04:14] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: lmao, that device is easy to setup.
[04:14] <computerMoney> Command line! I do have that up :)
[04:14] <dee25> i asked the help in debian they were aint helping
[04:14] <tritium> dee25: which is why you're asking in the wrong channel
[04:14] <mzz> Crayboff: I've been finding some blog posts and git branches using google, but nothing particularly recent
[04:14] <RHorse> dee25: dl the .gz file.
[04:14] <mzz> Crayboff: (most of that is from late last year)
[04:14] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:14] <Crayboff> :(
[04:14] <deeejz> indy im back
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: ok
[04:15] <redvamp128> travmon69:  any luck?
[04:15] <DIFH-iceroot> dee25: join /debian  this is an ubuntu-channel
[04:15] <dee25> im in the wrong channel somebody was just talking about windows lol
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: i assume it worked.
[04:15] <computerMoney> I believe it is intrepid ibex, I updated recently.
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: open a terminal, "lsb_release -a".. no quotes
[04:15] <alife> quick question, is there any easy way to check the compile time options used in the official php package?
[04:15] <meoblast001> what must i do to get mov support in ffmpeg?
[04:15] <alife> they aren't shown in the phpinfo page like other distro's i've used in the past
[04:15] <InCrypto_work> alife : apt-cache
[04:15] <Crayboff> well, umm, anyone know how to get my integrated mic to work, i have an inspiron 1521
[04:16] <computerMoney> Yup 8.10
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: i take it it worked ok?
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: 32 or 64bit?
[04:16] <deeejz> indy: aright so i rebooted and  the  wireless channels were threr, i clicked on my broadcast and entered my password, and then after about 10 seconds it asked for my password again, but there was already a password in there that was  32 chars long, ever time i clicked enter it woiuld bring the same window back up
[04:16] <paragonc_> any ideas on what to do for the wifi card?
[04:16] <paragonc_> i can see ath_pci
[04:16] <computerMoney> It is a 64 bit computer using a 32 bit OS I believe.
[04:16] <TiZ> I'm trying to extract a theme, and I get "An error occured while extracting files: (null)". What the heck does that even mean?!
[04:16] <computerMoney> 64 bit blackens on install attempts
[04:16] <computerMoney> even the canonical cd
[04:17] <timedroid> Has anyone installed Ubuntu from an external hard drive? There only seems to be documentation about a flash drive
[04:17] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: hmm, gimme a sec, lemme help computerMoney and we'll se if we can figure that out.
[04:17] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: are you on the PC now?...
[04:17] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ i just fin the dload  an install for 9.04 i gonna test it now if no go i gonna reboot to 8.10 then check i gonna let u know!  ps thanx
[04:17] <computerMoney> Yes Sir
[04:17] <felixsulla> Linux noob here, trying to install a program: http://www.reinteract.org/trac/wiki/GettingIt#Linux
[04:17] <timedroid> I'm at the prepare partitions screen and just get a blank screen with devices/type/mount point/etc on top
[04:17] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: go to system/admin/hardware drivers
[04:17] <felixsulla> The git clone line works, but then I'm not sure where to run the ./autogen line from?
[04:18] <deeejz> indy: well it asks for authentification key OR password, when i enter my password it seems like its connecting, then it brings up the authentification screen again with the 32 char password, when i erase that password and enter my ACTUAL password it acts like its connecting then says disconnected
[04:18] <arghh2d2> tiz means you were unzipping an archive and an arror occured
[04:18] <mzz> felixsulla: stuck where?
[04:18] <Danny__> can some one give me some help
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: hmm.
[04:18] <TiZ> arghh2d2: Don't get smart with me. :(
[04:18] <felixsulla> It says to install with Checkinstall
[04:18] <mzz> felixsulla: checkinstall is available, but I don't see a list of build-time dependencies you need to install
[04:18] <Digitalcheffe> mzz: it was force a fsck  and now its getting all kinds of errors
[04:18] <felixsulla> and it has a line starting with ./autogen, which I'm not sure where to run that?
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: did you go to hardware drivers?
[04:18] <paragonc_> ath0 is listed in iwconfig
[04:18] <Danny__> is there a key comble for linux that will open something up like taskmanager for windows
[04:19] <computerMoney> "Support for 5xxx series of atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards" is active and in use, "support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards" is not active.
[04:19] <Digitalcheffe> mzz: asking if i want to ignore errors
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: ok, what all have you tried to get that device working?
[04:19] <redvamp128> Danny__:  not quite a key combo - but system- administration - then system monitor - process tab
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: have you installed hte backport modules?
[04:19] <felixsulla> mzz do you mean that Reinteract isnt available on Checkinstall?
[04:19] <computerMoney> I have tried madwifi and ndiswrapper to no avail.
[04:19] <computerMoney> I believe I had trouble installing madwifi, errors 1 and 2.
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: ok...
[04:19] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: you usually don't
[04:19] <paragonc_> i can see my AP
[04:20] <paragonc_> i just cant connect
[04:20] <mzz> felixsulla: no, checkinstall is available so those instructions should work
[04:20] <RHorse> paragonc_: what encryption are you using?
[04:20] <bullgard4> Where can I find a manual for gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:20] <gaintsura> how do I save my packages with marked changes so I can close synaptic?
[04:20] <mzz> felixsulla: if they don't that means you need to install a build-time dependency, and given the error message I can probably figure out which one
[04:20] <Quagmire> Hello Guys, When I first boot up Ubuntu 8.10 there will be a list of routers in my wireless list, but mine is curiously absent. I can see 2 to 4 routers from neighbors, but mine will take 2 or 3 minutes to show up in the list. I'm a newbie and when i first got things going with Ubuntu I'm positive I made created this mess and I've just lived with the aggravation, but its time to get it fixed.
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: copy/paste this line in a terminal, then hit enter and put in your password...  sudo aptitude install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic
[04:20] <paragonc_> RHorse - i turned WEP off
[04:20] <alife> InCrypto_work: do you have a specific apt-cache command to look at? im not seeing compile time options :/
[04:20] <paragonc_> RHorse - so its an open access point
[04:21] <felixsulla> bash: ./autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[04:21] <RHorse> paragonc_: so ur using an open router, correct?
[04:21] <paragonc_> im online w/ my macbook - so i know the routers good
[04:21] <computerMoney> IndyGunFreak: Was already current
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: if you're seeing networks, then the device is presumably set up correctly.. what encryption level is your network using?
[04:21] <paragonc_> RHorse: Yes correct
[04:21] <felixsulla> bash is saying I'm running it from teh wrong place isnt it?
[04:21] <mustangg> so is there any way to tweak the file op progress/status of nautilus? I'm doing lots of large files on a slow wire and the progress is measured in GB but the speed can be measured in minutes-of-waiting
[04:21] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: have you restarted since doing that?
[04:21] <RHorse> paragonc_ ok.
[04:22] <computerMoney> IndyGunFreak: I have not updated it since turning my computer on last.
[04:22] <RHorse> paragonc_: type the following: sudo iwconfig essid YOUR_ESSID
[04:22] <computerMoney> I believe I added that in a previous attempt.
[04:22] <paragonc_> YOUR_ESSID is just the name of the AP right?
[04:22] <RHorse> yes
[04:22] <DIFH-iceroot> paragonc_: correct
[04:23] <cookie> anyone know a good updated digital security book?
[04:23] <timedroid> Also, is there any way to install a package from the live install CD?
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: you've probably blacklisted something in your fumbling through this....
[04:23] <cookie> or even website
[04:23] <paragonc_> RHorse: it says unknown command theRouter
[04:23] <computerMoney> IndyGunFreak: Very possible during madwifi setup
[04:23] <paragonc_> sudo iwconfig essid theRouter
[04:23] <Quagmire> I think my router is set up as a Hidden Network and thats whats causing my router to not show up ...can anyone help me with this?
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> thats what i'm thinkin
[04:24] <travmon69> _redvamp128_   all golden now  it was a flash 10 prob  flash 9  works a ok    THANK YOU!!!  now i not need to boot windows for my twit fix  lol
[04:24] <deeejz> indy: its password protected..if that helps
[04:24] <felixsulla> To use it, install the 'checkinstall' package on your distribution.
[04:24] <IndyGunFreak> deeejz: can you log in to your router?
[04:24] <paragonc_> RHorse: i modified it to sudo iwconfig ath0 essid theRotuer
[04:24] <RHorse> paragonc_: sorry: the command is sudo iwconfig ath0 essid ESSID_NAME
[04:24] <redvamp128> travmon69:  No problem-- but sometimes the latest ain't always the greatest
[04:24] <paragonc_> ok - i did that
[04:24] <RHorse> OK
[04:25] <computerMoney> IndyGunFreak: Any suggestions where I might find my blacklist?
[04:25] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: negative, sorry.
[04:25] <paragonc_> i still cant ping out
[04:25] <RHorse> paragonc_: are you using dhcp?
[04:25] <paragonc_> it should be pulling an IP via DHCP yes
[04:25] <Tbolt> need sound card  help, i have 8.10 x64, installed on a Dell xps 420 with a Sigmatel (stac92xx) sound card, and i cant seem to get the "mic" input or the "line in" port to work. all the output ports work fine. also, both ports worked when it came from Dell with windows in it. any suggestions ?
[04:25] <computerMoney> IndyGunFreak: Thank you anyway. Would you suggest working on the usb linksys or native atheros?
[04:25] <RHorse> paragonc_: ok type sudo dhclient ath0
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: the atheros, definitely.. honestly it should work to be truthful.
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: i have that device on 3 machines, it works perfectly
[04:26] <alife> if im looking inside an ubuntu source package, could one tell me where to look for the debian rules file?
[04:26] <hlm> I accidentally changed my resolution, and cant click the apply button to change it back, is there a way to change it through terminal?
[04:26] <paragonc_> looks lisays DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
[04:26] <bullgard4> Where can I find a manual for gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:27] <computerMoney> IndyGunFreak: I understand it to involve the inability of my 64 bit computer to groove with 54 bit intrepid.
[04:27] <paragonc_> doesnt look like it pulling down tho
[04:27] <felixsulla> mzz you still there?
[04:27] <namasamaran_> mpiiw ah !!
[04:27] <computerMoney> 64*
[04:27] <mzz> felixsulla: maybe!
[04:27] <hlm> !resolution
[04:27] <bruenig> bullgard4: it is graphical, so you point and click
[04:27] <Digitalcheffe> how do  i fix my mater boot record
[04:27] <RHorse> paragonc_: not working?
[04:27] <hlm> so no one can answer that?
[04:27] <paragonc_> ok - "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[04:27] <mzz> bullgard4: there may not be one (it's probably not recommended to run it directly, with it sitting in /usr/libexec/)
[04:27] <IndyGunFreak> computerMoney: i wouldnm't think so, i have 2 64bit PC's, both run 32bit w/o issue
[04:27] <hlm> seems like a simple question...
[04:27] <mzz> hlm: try xrandr
[04:27] <computerMoney> Ooooh
[04:28] <bullgard4> bruenig: What is graphical?
[04:28] <mzz> hlm: (xrandr -s 1280x1024, iirc)
[04:28] <RHorse> paragonc_: ok, well, you can try another card or pulling out and replacing the card or ndiswrapper.
[04:28] <hlm> thankyou
[04:28] <hlm> I knew if I pushed it id get a response ;-)
[04:29] <bruenig> bullgard4: point and click
[04:29] <promet> tbolt have you tried alsa-mixer to make sure your mic channel is unmuted?
[04:29] <paragonc_> RHorse - i dont have another card - so try switching the PCI slot?
[04:29] <felixsulla> mzz Do you know where I need to run the ./autogen line from to get Checkinstall loaded on my Ub untu?
[04:29] <Scunizi> hlm: still might not work though
[04:29] <mzz> felixsulla: I think you have some things backwards
[04:29] <RHorse> paragonc_: you can try that. Some folks have gotten good results from wicd.
[04:29] <bullgard4> mzz: Even if it is not recommended to run it directly, this should be written in a manual.
[04:29] <NoTownKasper> Dual Monitor running as seperate X screens because nvidia-settings won't let me select twinview (Multiple graphics cards probably) All I wanna know is how to move an application from one monitor to another...:(
[04:29] <Chaorain> I know ubuntu has no viruses (still hard to belive compared to windows) but what about hackers?
[04:29] <paragonc_> weird
[04:29] <Tbolt> promet: yes i have checked it
[04:29] <mzz> felixsulla: you only run the "make install" step under checkinstall. The configure and build steps run as "you" and do not depend on checkinstall at all
[04:29] <Scunizi> hlm: if you type xrandr and see the list of current resolutions set for the system.. the one you want may not be there.
[04:30] <mzz> bullgard4: perhaps (I actually do exactly that)
[04:30] <hlm> ALL: thanks for the assistance, ive fixed it now
[04:30] <travmon69> _redvamp128-  i hear that. that a 3 year old windows habit lol  ooh  better update it! lol    i read on ub forums about it an preach excatly that to freind about kernel updates that stopped friennnnds hardware from working. i said if it it works dont updare or keep the kernel for backup
[04:30] <redvamp128> Chaorain:  Since this room is so busy -- please talk about that one in #ubuntu-offtopic room
[04:30] <promet> tblot, also you may also want to check the file "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[04:30] <felixsulla> So I need to load checkinstall somehow first, and do that command inside checkinstall?
[04:30] <Quagmire> does anyone have any help for me on my issue?
[04:30] <Chaorain> ty
[04:30] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | Quagmire
[04:30] <Digitalcheffe> I dont understand It was working fine a second ago now i get these DRDY ERR : ata1.00: status UNC stuf
[04:30] <RHorse> paragonc_ you can try iwconfig ath0 mode managed essid UR_ESSID just for kicks.
[04:31] <Digitalcheffe> some one have a fix for this or is my HD hosed
[04:31] <bullgard4> bruenig: Where should I point and click?
[04:31] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  foobar myself this time
[04:31] <promet> tbolt, I've heard that adding this line "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" there and rebooting
[04:31] <bruenig> bullgard4: on the buttons and widgets on the graphical user interface
[04:31] <Scunizi> Quagmire:  missed it .. what's the question?
[04:31] <redvamp128> travmon69:  To make sure that grub lets you choose by default -- comment out the hidemenu with #hidemenu in your menu.lst
[04:31] <promet> also tbolt, are you using pulseaudio?
[04:31] <paragonc_> then?
[04:32] <Quagmire> one second and I'll repost it
[04:32] <bullgard4> bruenig: My dear!
[04:32] <Danny__> is there a force quit key combanation for ubuntu?
[04:32] <redvamp128> travmon69:  that way should a kernel update fail you then you can choose the prior one.
[04:32] <bruenig> bullgard4: are you trolling
[04:32] <NoTownKasper> I have a small issue. Running a dual-monitor set up via two graphics cards, running dual X screens because Twinview isn't accessable. Is there a way to move an application window from one monitor to another?
[04:32] <chu_> So, helping out Guest25449, who is running a Live version of Ubuntu on their laptop, but their Ubuntu install won't detect the network, I know what the detected IP should be,so I'm thinking it's just linking ifconfig with the network address... Do we run into problems trying to configure a network on a Live OS?
[04:32] <Quagmire> When I first boot up Ubuntu 8.10 there will be a list of routers in my wireless list, but mine is curiously absent. I can see 2 to 4 routers from neighbors, but mine will take 2 or 3 minutes to show up in the list. I'm a newbie and when i first got things going with Ubuntu I'm positive I made created this mess and I've just lived with the aggravation, but its time to get it fixed.
[04:32] <hajmola> what's the best program to use to have a XP virtual machine in Ibex?
[04:32] <bruenig> !virtualization | hajmola
[04:32] <Tbolt> promet: using ALSA
[04:32] <thomc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119054/
[04:32] <DIFH-iceroot> hajmola: i like vbox but everyone will tell you another program
[04:32] <Scunizi> NoTownKasper: xinerama.. google it.
[04:33] <mzz> hajmola: I like vbox but my cpu is old
[04:33] <NoTownKasper> I did, and tried to enable it, but on X restart, the option un-toggled itself.
[04:33] <Cool_Nick> I need a newer version of iptables tehn what comes with 8.10...Having hard time finding a repository that gives a newer version then 1.4.0.  Anyone know of a good reposittory?
[04:33] <hajmola> i want to be able to sync my winmo phone
[04:33] <Danny__> is anyone answering
[04:33] <RHorse> pargonc_ then the dhclient again.
[04:33] <Quagmire>  I think my router is set up as a Hidden Network and thats whats causing my router to not show up
[04:34] <DIFH-iceroot> !raid
[04:34] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  i scared of of the grub folder!  i unplug my other hds  when i test a new os.  i had a bad experince with debian lenny a few hrs ago
[04:34] <NoTownKasper> Scunizi: I tried enabling it, but on x restart, it was un-toggled once more, have repeated the process a couple times, with the same result.
[04:34] <redvamp128> Danny__:  if the application is on the desktop there is the panel item force quit
[04:34] <paragonc_> RHorse: ok - that didnt work
[04:34] <Scunizi> Quagmire: if that's the case you might look and see if "broadcasting" is on.. that should make it show up faster
[04:34] <paragonc_> RHorse: just swapped the card and rebooted
[04:34] <RHorse> paragonc_: same result?
[04:34] <hajmola> DIFH-iceroot, would vbox support USB devices?
[04:35] <Danny__> i cant find a key combination for that still
[04:35] <Quagmire> where do I find the "broadcast" switch
[04:35] <Scunizi> NoTownKasper: two cards is problemmatic.. you need to look at hand configured xorg.conf files... sorry I don't have the expertise for this.
[04:35]  * RHorse is away: I'm busy
[04:35] <mustangg> is there a way to find out free space for a drive which is only available via ftp?
[04:35] <NoTownKasper> Scunizi: eeewww....I was hoping you wouldn't say that. :(
[04:35] <newb> Hello
[04:36] <newb> Everybody.
[04:36] <newb> :p
[04:36] <Scunizi> Quagmire: once you log into your router typically under a wireless tab
[04:36] <redvamp128> Danny__:  though the force log off key combination is ctl-alt-backspace
[04:36] <alife> Do any repo's have a package of php 5.2.8?
[04:36] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ i always use my BIOS to boot the os i want
[04:36] <paragonc_> RHorse: swapping pci slots worked....
[04:36] <Scunizi> NoTownKasper: much easier with one card with dual outputs.
[04:36]  * paragonc_ just wasted 3 hours
[04:36] <newb> ...
[04:36] <paragonc_> RHorse: thanks for the help
[04:36] <redvamp128> travmon69:  All the #hidemenu does is always display full grub choices
[04:37] <NoTownKasper> Scunizi: If I had the money for a new card...I'd get one...but alas...I'm stuck with my two cards. :(
[04:37] <mustangg> also, how can I use the super key _with_ a char key in a kb mapping?
[04:37] <Quagmire> Scunizi, my winblows pc has no problem seeing the router immediatley
[04:37] <RHorse> paragonc_ glad you got it finally.
[04:37] <bullgard4> Where can I find a manual for gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:37] <Digitalcheffe> How to I get my machine to boot again. I keep getting DRDY ERR on ata1.00
[04:37] <Danny__> does anyone here now if theres a force quit key combination for ubuntu
[04:37] <Tbolt> promet: thanks for the suggestion, i'll try adding that entry to the "alsa-base"
[04:37] <corey__> How much physical hard disk space does xubuntu require to function?
[04:37] <Scunizi> Quagmire: once broadcasting is on and ubuntu see's it you can make it your "home" connection and then disable broadcasting.
[04:37] <RHorse> Danny__: yes, the power button. Hold it down for 5 sec
[04:38] <corey__> I want to run xubuntu on a CF card, but not sure which size of card I'll need
[04:38] <mzz> RHorse: no magic sysrq key in the default kernel?
[04:38] <Digitalcheffe> How to I get my machine to boot again. I keep getting DRDY ERR on ata1.00
[04:38] <Quagmire> Scunizi, do we know that its not seeing it? I mean it does find it ...it just takes a little time
[04:38] <NoTownKasper> Any xorg.conf ninjas with some free time? :(
[04:39] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: try the drive in a different system to see if it's bad?
[04:39] <hlm> need help! URGENT! screen is spinning on me in improper resolution after trying to change resolution and I cant remember the command!
[04:39] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ i see the chocies in the grub what ever folder  but i never get it to work right?   saybon and opensuse mess it up like two years ago for me so now i only usde trhe one hd when i test them.  sucks that weay
[04:39] <hanasaki> the tsclient applet has the password disabled for vnc clients.... how do I enable this so the password for the vncserver can be entered?
[04:39] <hlm> only way to fix is with virtual console
[04:39] <mzz> hlm: consider ctrl+alt+f1-ing out
[04:39] <hlm> ctrl+alt+?
[04:39] <alife> anyone know if i can get a package of php 5.2.8 anywhere yet? :(
[04:39] <mzz> hlm: try running "DISPLAY=:0.0 XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority xrandr" there
[04:39] <hlm> FONE?
[04:39] <mzz> hlm: ctrl+alt + function key one
[04:40] <hlm> I can
[04:40] <mzz> hlm: (next to the esc key)
[04:40] <bullgard4> Digitalcheffe: Try to find out if there is an intermittent contact to your hard drive.
[04:40] <hlm> but I need a command
[04:40] <hlm> ctrl alt f1 brings me to a console
[04:40] <Cool_Nick> Does anyone know of a repository that holds newer versions of programs then ubuntus default repository?
[04:40] <Scunizi> Quagmire: may have something to do with the type of wireless card you have in ubuntu.. the generic drivers might not work "terrific" with it.
[04:40] <mzz> hlm: good! if you can log in there, does the command I gave earlier give you output?
[04:40] <Quagmire> Scunizi, I logged into my router and it already has SSID Enabled
[04:40] <j-Li> g
[04:40] <chu_> Hey, sorry to be impatient, but does anyone know anything about network settings on a Live version of Ubuntu? I would have used the Network Connections tool, but it's not available on the Live version.
[04:40] <Phreakish> hey im on my ubuntu belkin f5d8053 working fine using ndiswrapper thnx for ur help
[04:40] <hlm> mzz, I cant remember the cmd im a linux nub :(
[04:40] <alife> *agrees with Cool_Nick*
[04:40] <Quagmire> SSID Broadcast ....that is
[04:41] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  supergrubdisk saves me everytime but maybe i will get smater than that soon i hope
[04:41] <NoTownKasper> Cool_Nick: you'll probably have to go directly to the source, a.k.a the project website for whatever program you want.
[04:41] <hanasaki> how do I set default applicaitons? specifically the vncviewer
[04:41] <mzz> hlm: "DISPLAY=:0.0 XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority xrandr" (without the quotes)
[04:41] <paragonc_> RHorse: - i connected - but i still cant pull an IP
[04:41] <Scunizi> Quagmire: I'm not much on wireless so I'm stuck at this piont
[04:41] <chu_> System->Preferences-<Preferred Applications hanasaki?
[04:41] <hlm> mzz, isnt there something easier, to change my resolution?
[04:41] <Cool_Nick> NoTownKasper, I want iptables...all they have is tar.gz  hoping for alrady compiled
[04:41] <redvamp128> travmon69:  You should actually look into www.ultimatebootcd.com -- it has supergrub disk on it but with other tools
[04:41] <hanasaki> chu_:  thanks
[04:42] <hlm> if I move my mouse my screen will start spinning
[04:42] <NoTownKasper> Hrm...I don't bother with IP tables, moblock is all I need....sorry. :(
[04:42] <mzz> hlm: I'm doing this commandline-based because I'm assuming you can't conveniently use the gui tools right now
[04:42] <Quagmire> well how do I set my router as my Home network? Somebody has to know that one. .LOL
[04:42] <hlm> I cant
[04:42] <newb> Can i burn Ps2 games on Ubutu 8.4?
[04:42] <chu_> I'm not sure if it's completely what you're after (I don't know what vnvcviewer is)
[04:42] <mzz> hlm: I'll try to find the gui tool once we've fixed whatever state you're currently in
[04:42] <newb> Sorry,I'm new to it.
[04:42] <hlm> but theres got to be something simple
[04:42] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ i got it but maybe it a older version?
[04:42] <hanasaki> chu_:  nope.. no vncview option there... main thing is that tsclient applet will not let me enter a password
[04:42] <NoTownKasper> I have a small issue. Running a dual-monitor set up via two graphics cards, running dual X screens because Twinview isn't accessable. Is there a way to move an application window from one monitor to another?
[04:42] <hlm> right now im looking at a screen thats shaking
[04:43] <redvamp128> travmon69:  it actually has the latest version availible
[04:43] <mzz> hlm: "xrandr" is not *that* complicated. The DISPLAY=:0.0 XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority mess is because you're running it outside of X now.
[04:43] <bullgard4> chu_: Normally, your Ubuntu Live CD connects you automatically to the Internet. If this is not the case with you, analyze your dmesg.
[04:43] <MTecknology> When will someone go through and wipe out all the ~ubuntumembers applications? That team really should be Restricted.... It just makes more sense.....
[04:43] <newb> Please =\
[04:43] <Phreakish> excuse me but i have a problem. xchat won't install because it's missing glib. Glib wont install because it's missing gettext. Gettext won't install because it's missing everything. What should I do?
[04:43] <hlm> xrandr says cant open display
[04:43] <mzz> Phreakish: huh? Just use aptitude/apt-get to install...
[04:43] <TiZ> Hi. I installed Murrine SVN, and now I have white borders around my firefox entry fields. How do I fix this?
[04:43] <hlm> Phreakish,  just install it through synaptice
[04:43] <mzz> Phreakish: (you shouldn't need gettext to *run* glib, although you need it to install it)
[04:43] <hlm> synaptics*
[04:44] <mzz> Phreakish: what are you actually trying to do?
[04:44] <Phreakish> sorry im a complete nube what do you mean by using aptitude
[04:44] <chu_> bullgard4, I am actually using an install, but Guest25449 is using a Live version, and having troubles with their Network Settings
[04:44] <sexcopter> does anyone know how to hide the server notices and motd's when pidgin launches (and irc accounts are enabled)?
[04:44] <hlm> Danny__,  if you have something to say say it in the channel, where I can read it
[04:44] <mzz> Phreakish: use the package manager (synaptic if you like gui tools) instead of installing by hand
[04:44] <NoTownKasper> I have a small issue. Running a dual-monitor set up via two graphics cards, running dual X screens because Twinview isn't accessable. Is there a way to move an application window from one monitor to another? I've tried enabling xinerama and it failed...
[04:45] <Danny__> how do i force quit a program
[04:45] <TiZ> Hi. I installed Murrine SVN, and now I have white borders around my firefox entry fields. How do I fix this?
[04:45] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ so you never listen or check leo laporte?  if it wasn't for him i i'd be saying Linux what's that?   that was 4 years ago!
[04:45] <NoTownKasper> Phreakish: an example would be this command via the terminal 'apt-get install pidgin'
[04:45] <bullgard4> chu_: The dmesg give a clue what might be wrong with the network settings.
[04:45] <Phreakish> it doesn't show xchat in synaptic
[04:45] <hlm> is it possible to change resolution with the recovery console?
[04:45] <mzz> Phreakish: it did when I looked there a few days ago
[04:45] <Quagmire> turn on your Force Quit program ...I say place it on your task b ar
[04:45] <chu_> Thanks bullgard4
[04:45] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I don't quite know what that is?
[04:45] <mzz> Phreakish: I forgot the exact package name, but it was there (in a pretty stock hardy install, I doubt intrepid would be different)
[04:45] <Phreakish> i'll try that
[04:45] <Digitalcheffe> bullgard4: when plugged in to a windows machine using an adaptor it show as being healthy
[04:46] <redvamp128> Danny__:  I did find this though haven't tried it yet Ultimate Edition Forum • View topic - Force quit key combination? <http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=27&amp;t=487>
[04:46] <hlm> im termpted touse capslock...
[04:46] <mzz> Phreakish: it's in universe
[04:46] <Brack10> Upgraded to the latest nvidia drivers off their website, broke my Xserver....how can I roll back?
[04:46] <NoTownKasper> Phreakish: Try this via the terminal 'sudo apt-get install xchat'
[04:46] <hlm> is it POSSIBLE to change RESOLUTION in RECOVERY CONSOLE?
[04:46] <mzz> hlm: sorry, missed your reply because you omitted my nick
[04:46] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ linux?  jk
[04:46] <Digitalcheffe> bullgard4: although it wont let me access it . I dont know what linux uses for files sytems
[04:46] <mzz> hlm: X *is* still running, right? Was that "can't open display" with or without mentioning DISPLAY=:0.0 on the commandline?
[04:46] <travmon69> _redvamp128_     twit
[04:47] <kmad> brack: try the fix X option in recov mode
[04:47] <hlm> without
[04:47] <hlm> is that display=:0.0 ?
[04:47] <kernel09l> why some of sites shows only lines instead of whole sentence but fine in xp
[04:47] <mzz> hlm: try with, and with XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority too
[04:47] <mzz> hlm: DISPLAY=:0.0 (case-sensitive)
[04:47] <Crayboff> AUGH! why can't i stop amarok from starting at boot?
[04:47] <hlm> ok, how do I do that command?
[04:47] <Brack10> kmad:  that gets me into low graphics mode, so then I tried nvidia-xconfigure or whatever and that just breaks it again... I need to roll back the driver
[04:47] <islan> dang, someone has my nick registered...
[04:47] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  v check  leo laporte on google   he is a tech guy
[04:48] <Zeeded> Crayboff: ok so heres what you do
[04:48] <hlm> mzz, can u send it to me in a pm please?
[04:48] <Crayboff> yes, zeeded?
[04:48] <TiZ> Hi. I installed Murrine SVN, and now I have white borders around my firefox entry fields. How do I fix this?
[04:48] <Digitalcheffe> bullgard4: i just went through this before and i remeber now this same machine did the same thing right after an update
[04:48] <Phreakish> in terminal after i type apt-get install xchat' it just gives me >
[04:48] <islan> oh ... apparently I registered ... a long time ago...?
[04:48] <mzz> hlm: done, please reply in here if at all possible though
[04:48] <hanasaki> how do you get tsclient to allow a password entry for vnc?  the password field is grayed out / locked
[04:48] <Zeeded> Crayboff: Go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions then delete it from starting on start-up.
[04:48] <mzz> islan: a freenode staffer can drop the account if it's been unused long enough
[04:49] <nsadmin> Phreakish: then thats not all you typed
[04:49] <Crayboff> zeeded, well the problem is that I can't find it in sessions
[04:49] <islan> okay, so I'm trying to set up dual monitor support (nvidia driver), which is fine, except that my 2nd monitor can't get as high of a resolution as the other
[04:49] <NoTownKasper> indeed.
[04:49] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I don't want to join the site
[04:49] <islan> and they are both the same type of monitor
[04:49] <islan> can anybody advise me?
[04:49] <Zeeded> Crayboff: Its not there? Hmmm
[04:49] <NoTownKasper> Phreakish: sudo apt-get install xchat xchat-gnome installed it all just fine for me...So you're probably mistyping something somewhere.
[04:49] <Crayboff> i, umm, for lack of a better term, lost the amarok session command
[04:49] <islan> mzz: well I tried to log in, and it accepted my password, but I haven't been on here for a long time, and I don't recall ever registering
[04:49] <Digitalcheffe> anyone have any suggestions?
[04:50] <mzz> islan: apparently you did :)
[04:50] <islan> mzz: I've been outta linux for the past 2 years :P
[04:50] <kernel09l>  i got blank in some sites only pictures any idea...
[04:50] <NoTownKasper> Phreakish: but, if you search in synaptic for xchat, it will show you all the packages there. I'm looking at them right now. lol
[04:50] <islan> NoTownKasper: do I have to have xchat in that command?  cuz I just installed xchat-gnome and it seems to work fine
[04:50] <mzz> islan: registration's "only" 17 weeks old...
[04:50] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  by the way i live in New Brunswick Canada.     maybe that is why you don't know him    whre are you from?  country only ?
[04:50] <bullgard4> Digitalcheffe: Your descriptions are too vague to get a clear picture of your computer's situation. Please try to observe and describe your situation more precisely. I cannot help with this state of affairs.
[04:50] <redvamp128> travmon69:  right now all I see is loquacious,thirshift69, and callilliy chatting.
[04:50] <Quagmire> I want to make my wireless router my Home Network, how do I do this?
[04:51] <redvamp128> travmon69:  USA NC
[04:51] <Phreakish> > apt-get install xchat'
[04:51] <Phreakish> Reading package lists... Done
[04:51] <Phreakish> Building dependency tree
[04:51] <Phreakish> Reading state information... Done
[04:51] <Phreakish> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[04:51] <NoTownKasper> islan: I dunno, I was just being repetitive for the insurance sake. :D
[04:51] <FloodBot2> Phreakish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:51] <Phreakish> apt-get install xchat
[04:51] <islan> NoTownKasper: ah
[04:51] <bullgard4> Where can I find a manual for gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:51] <computerMoney> Linksys usb wireless card sees networks
[04:51] <computerMoney> cant connect
[04:52] <nick> computerMoney: encrypted networks?
[04:52] <islan> so can anyone tell me how to get higher resolution for a second monitor with nvidia settings?  the control panel wont let me
[04:52] <Digitalcheffe> bullgard4: what do u suggest , it freezes on boot and then tries to run fsck and cycles through a bunch of errors
[04:52] <computerMoney> nick: thank you, yes
[04:52] <nick> computerMoney: wep, wpa?
[04:52] <NoTownKasper> Phreakish: do me a favor, open up synaptic, click the search button, type in 'xchat' without the single-quotes and tell me what packages you see available.
[04:52] <kapace_laptop> hello, im running dropbear with X11 forwarding, is there a way to connect to the local X server?
[04:52] <islan> wep forever!
[04:52] <nick> islan: not secure
[04:53] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  those are two hot chicks  loq an callilly  i forgot i am fix fix now thanks to  you wait i gonna go an login   wait to see if you can see me there
[04:53] <nsadmin> for some people... wep someday soon hopefully
[04:53] <Phreakish> none
[04:53] <Phreakish> i typed it in quickchat
[04:53] <NoTownKasper> ...
[04:53] <mzz> !universe | Phreakish
[04:53] <islan> nick:  it's just that it's letting one monitor get high resolution, but not the other, and they are the same type of monitor
[04:53]  * islan scratches head
[04:53] <mzz> Phreakish: it's in universe, which you may not have enabled. Please check.
[04:53] <computerMoney> nick: iwlist scan does not report which kind
[04:53]  * islan does more google searches
[04:54] <bullgard4> Digitalcheffe: To me it appears as if your hard drive or connection to it is at fault. I suggest that an expert checks the hard drive (hardware).
[04:54] <baber> hi
[04:54] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I do see you on the list...
[04:54] <mzz> Digitalcheffe: with your fan trouble it's possible something else in the system broke, so if at all possible I'd try the drive in a different system before deciding it's broken
[04:54]  * RHorse is back (gone 00:18:58)
[04:55] <nick> computerMoney: it should be iwlist <interface> scan (probably, iwlist rausb0 scan) and also try wicd, it works with realtek cards(linksys has realtek) and provides a nice gui to adjust it
[04:55] <broken> maybe i should pick a different nick
[04:55] <NoTownKasper> Phreakish: Allright, click on system>administration>software sources and makle sure all the 3rd party software sources are enabled as well as all the options under the 'Ubuntu software' tab.
[04:55] <computerMoney> wlan0
[04:55] <NoTownKasper> Phreakish: Then try searching synaptic again for xchat.
[04:55] <baber> when i want type this command not work why? . cp /home/baber/Desktop/cccam/run_debug
[04:55] <Digitalcheffe> bullgard4: what files system does ubuntu  run on . can windows read it as a secondary?
[04:55] <islan> I actually don't want to mess with xorg now that they have all these new-fangled control frontends ...
[04:55] <computerMoney> nick: unusual output "IE: Unknown: 000B57696C64205475726B6579" etc.
[04:55] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  travmon69 is stuckamed mean stuck on the server  i i a alt account on stickam to let me in  travmon1
[04:56] <NoTownKasper> I have a small issue. Running a dual-monitor set up via two graphics cards, running dual X screens because Twinview isn't accessable. Is there a way to move an application window from one monitor to another? I've tried enabling xinerama and it failed...
[04:56] <nick> computerMoney: try installing "wicd"
[04:56] <Crayboff> Alright, this is retarded, is there a way to manually edit the sessions? i can't find amarok in the gui
[04:56] <islan> baber: wrong order, should be:  cp <item to copy> <destination>
[04:56] <computerMoney> nick: thank you, one moment
[04:56] <broken> NoTownCasper, try running them on the same video card
[04:56] <NoTownKasper> broken: Not an option.
[04:56] <broken> sadness
[04:56] <redvamp128> Digitalcheffe:  Not deafultly but I think ubuntu can run on ext2 and ext3 and if anyone else knows any others please add them.
[04:56] <islan> NoTownKasper: have you updated your graphics drivers?  you might be getting dual monitor that way
[04:56] <computerMoney> nick: no such package found
[04:57] <pur3> Hey there, people ?
[04:57] <NoTownKasper> islan: Well, they're up to date acording to ubuntu...I haven't checked the actual nvidia site yet.
[04:57] <jeeves> what causes distored sound on a fresh install on a Toshiba laptop
[04:57] <broken> NoTownKasper, what kind of monitors and vid cards
[04:57] <baber> islan: i used . except destination
[04:57] <nick> NoTownKasper: even if they were on the same card, you can't move a window from one X server to another, if that's what you've mentioned
[04:57] <redvamp128> Digitalcheffe:  Though windows partition manger can see the partition -- but can't read it.
[04:57] <islan> baber: but you put . before cp, cp should be first
[04:57] <nick> computerMoney: http://wicd.sourceforge.net
[04:57] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ see me now?  i give you some fame ok?
[04:57] <islan> baber: destination is lasat
[04:57] <islan> last*
[04:58] <redvamp128> travmon69:  for non members videocams are turned off and I don't want to join
[04:58] <Digitalcheffe> redvamp128: well the windows partion saw the the partions and read it as healthy
[04:58] <bullgard4> Digitalcheffe: Ubuntu can run on several file systems. But as a default it uses the file system ext3. I believe the newest Windows version can read an ext3 filesystem.
[04:58] <lianimator> why does lyx sometimes indent the first line, and sometimes not?
[04:58] <anom01y> anyone here know why a particular wine app I run is able to display images in full screen in kde, but it fails to in xfce (only displays 50% of image then crashes). I have both xfce and kde installed on my ubuntu box.
[04:58] <NoTownKasper> broken: Onboard GeForce 6100, listed as secondary into an emachines monitor of some variety, PCIe GeForce 8400 listed as primary into an Acer LCD monitor. I can post my xorg.conf if it would help. :D
[04:59] <broken> yeah, that might
[04:59] <baber> islan: i usewd this command cp /home/baber/Desktop/cccam/run_debug .  but not work
[04:59] <hlm> okay, one step forward, improper resolution, but no rolling screen
[04:59] <fxchip> So
[04:59] <islan> baber: ah, okay, did it give you an error message?
[05:00] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  vid is broken for tempory  if was working you can view an see chat without  login
[05:00] <NoTownKasper> broken: http://pastebin.com/mcad6dd2
[05:00] <computerMoney> nick: thank you I am installing this
[05:00] <redvamp128> travmon69:  so at least now you can sign into the site-- so the change did work
[05:00] <kebomix> hello , i have some character that dont appear in books http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6272/screenshotnp4.png , any solution 4 that ?
[05:00] <hlm> need help changing display from terminal
[05:01] <mrpockets> hi
[05:01] <nick> computerMoney: you're wellcome
[05:01] <mzz> hlm: did xrandr run?
[05:01] <hlm> yes
[05:01] <mrpockets> Trying to install virtualbox and it says theres no sutable module for running kernel found
[05:01] <mrpockets> halp!
[05:01] <hlm> mzz, xrandr runs
[05:01] <mzz> hlm: did adding -s properxresolution to that change resolution?
[05:01] <baber> islan: thanks it work
[05:01] <timedroid> Anyone have any idea as to how to get wireless working on an Aspire One? I build the madwifi thing but it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[05:01] <hlm> mzz,  what is properxresolution?
[05:01] <hlm> what do I replace with?
[05:01] <mzz> hlm: I don't know. Something like 800x600
[05:02] <mzz> hlm: I don't know what resolution you want to change to
[05:02] <hlm> ok, then both parts
[05:02] <hlm> 1024x768
[05:02] <islan> baber: glad I could help
[05:02] <hlm> done, last time I had bad results though
[05:02] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  yes awsome  i gonna  say redvamp128 fix  the flash for linux  on the chat  ok  look at the chat to see ?
[05:02] <kebomix> hello , i have some character that dont appear in books http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6272/screenshotnp4.png , any solution 4 that ?
[05:03] <baber> islan: for copy a dir what option have to use?
[05:03] <broken> NoTownKasper: what does the config look like currently
[05:03] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  OK?
[05:03] <broken> are the screens mirrored?
[05:03] <Digitalcheffe> I give up , It's toast. it's twice now that this machine has gone to errors after a short life span
[05:04] <NoTownKasper> No...it's running 2 X sessions, one per monitor. For example, right now I have a browser open in the primary and this IRC chat open in the other via pidgin. :D
[05:04] <NoTownKasper> broken: No...it's running 2 X sessions, one per monitor. For example, right now I have a browser open in the primary and this IRC chat open in the other via pidgin. :D
[05:04] <mzz> hlm: if that didn't fix it I need a better problem description
[05:04] <islan> baber: cp -r
[05:04] <broken> hmmm
[05:04] <hlm> mzz, its all better now, I fixed it within the screen resolution dialog now too
[05:04] <hlm> im away not ;-)
[05:05] <computerMoney> nick: I am sorry. How do I open this program
[05:05] <NoTownKasper> broken: I saw someone a minute ago say that moving applications from one X window to another isn't possible, sorry, but I missed the name. So apparetly, I need to work out how to get twinview working...or perhaps xinerama...dual monitors in linux is a little new to me.
[05:05] <broken> try twinview first
[05:05] <travmon69> _redvamp128_ is it ok?
[05:05] <RHorse> computerMoney: I think it's tray.py
[05:06] <Phreakish_> hey it worked
[05:06] <Phreakish_> xchat running
[05:06] <NoTownKasper> broken: Ok...any idea how to enable that when nvidia-settings doesn't even list it as a possible option?
[05:06] <doc``> how do i partition stuff in ubuntu?
[05:06] <Phreakish_> sweeet
[05:06] <broken> you already have that option in your xorg.conf so that might be a good place to start
[05:06] <mrpockets> Trying to install virtualbox and it says theres no sutable module for running kernel found
[05:06] <nick> computerMoney: if you downloaded the "deb" file you can install it with the following command: "dpkg -i package_name"  (without the quotes of course :))
[05:06] <Phreakish_> thnx for the help
[05:06] <mzz> NoTownKasper: afaik twinview isn't meaningful on multiple cards, and xinerama *might* not work in the current x server. I think this is improving in the next one, I don't know what the state in the current one is.
[05:06] <Phreakish_> it was in synaptic
[05:06] <broken> ahh
[05:06] <broken> good point
[05:06] <FxChiP> I have an interesting observation for you all
[05:06] <FxChiP> 1.) Under Windows, the nVidia card in this Alienware runs hella HOT
[05:06] <FxChiP> Under Ubuntu Intrepid, it
[05:06] <FxChiP> is running VERY COOL
[05:06] <FloodBot2> FxChiP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <FxChiP> 2.) It's getting two bars on the wireless card vs. Windows' less-than-one... over a more significant distance.
[05:07] <computerMoney> RHorse: Thank you
[05:07] <computerMoney> nick: I followed instructions involving synaptic
[05:07] <broken> might just have to wait until the next release then
[05:07] <mzz> FxChiP: weird, but yay!
[05:07]  * InCrypto_work broke X
[05:07] <InCrypto_work> :D
[05:07] <NoTownKasper> broken: Meh...back to windoze I go then...
[05:08] <broken> NoTownKasper, make sure you post this on the forums and try to request that option in the next release of xinerama
[05:08] <NoTownKasper> broken: got a link?
[05:08] <mzz> NoTownKasper: afaik it'll actually get fixed properly in the next minor version of randr (replacing xinerama). But you really should get confirmation from someone else, I'm no expert on this.
[05:08] <mzz> NoTownKasper: perhaps ask #xorg
[05:09] <nick> computerMoney: so?
[05:09] <broken> woa hold up NoTownKasper
[05:09] <broken> PM me
[05:09] <looter> I'm trying to get screenlets (v.  0.1.2) to dock  onto a sidebar but its not working.  I can't get the screenlets to dock onto the sidebar.  I see the sidebar and the screenlets but they only seem to lay over top of it and not "dock" onto it.  any suggestions?
[05:09] <computerMoney> nick: Sorry - I'm newb.
[05:12] <travmon69> _redvamp128_   i thank you very much!!
[05:12] <anom01y> anyone here know why a particular wine app I run is able to display images in full screen in kde, but it fails to in xfce (only displays 50% of image then crashes). I have both xfce and kde installed on my ubuntu box.
[05:12] <mrpockets> Trying to install virtualbox and it says theres no sutable module for running kernel found
[05:12] <mrpockets> halp!
[05:14] <timbo__> hi all, would someone be able to help me with a mounting problem i am having???
[05:14] <RHorse> timbo__: try #sex
[05:14] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  ???
[05:15] <dtchen> mrpockets: do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed?
[05:15] <redvamp128> yes travmon69:
[05:15] <mrpockets> dtchen, i have no idea
[05:16] <mrpockets> apt-get or should i search synaptic?
[05:16] <chu_> Hi - I was told to use dmesg to diagnose any network problems earlier, well, according to the results of dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/119071/) to activate wireless I need to download some Broadcom firmware. I don't have access to the internet currently with that computer (I'm actually helping someone out, they are running a Live version of Ubuntu, which makes the problem even more difficult?), what could the problem be? Wrong DNS server or something? If the c
[05:16] <chu_> omputer is assuming the network will be on a 192.168.0.x network, but it is 192.168.2.x will that be a problem (I would say yes)
[05:16] <redvamp128> travmon69:  you are welcome-- hope the site comes up for video soon.
[05:16] <computerMoney> nick: it does not appear as though anything has changed
[05:17] <donnyw> hey guys. I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions on getting my laptop's webcam working
[05:17] <tyler_d> how can I perminently change the mtu on interface eth0
[05:17] <travmon69> _redvamp128_  thank you!  i gave you credit in  the live.twit.tv chat room also  if you can see it?
[05:17] <dtchen> mrpockets: please pastebin the precise error message
[05:17] <InCrypto_work> xlite is givin me a headache
[05:17] <tyler_d> so far I have added `iface eth0 inet dhcp` and below it mtu 1500
[05:17] <InCrypto_work> ive configured my SIP proxy correctly
[05:18] <InCrypto_work> but it wont work
[05:18] <tyler_d> after restart it does not show the new mtu in ifconfig
[05:18] <redvamp128> travmon69:  I closed out the window-- am reading an article now on a cat that finds cancer Cat alerts owner to lung cancer - UPI.com <http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/02/16/Cat_alerts_owner_to_lung_cancer/UPI-53671234788556/>
[05:18] <chu_> Epic
[05:18] <InCrypto_work> also my USB fone detects but i cannot hear no sound
[05:18] <yow|laptop> donnyw - install cheese and see if it works, other than that, check the compatibility list for your cam
[05:19] <mrpockets> http://pastebin.com/m3ac26bf5
[05:19] <donnyw> alright, I'll give it a shot
[05:21] <Quagmire> Guys is there another channel that might be able to help me get my wireless network question resolved?
[05:21] <looter> I'm trying to get screenlets (v.  0.1.2) to dock  onto a sidebar but its not working.  I can't get the screenlets to dock onto the sidebar.  I see the sidebar and the screenlets but they only seem to lay over top of it and not "dock" onto it.  any suggestions?
[05:21] <bullgard4> Kwitschibo: Wo findet man eine programmbeschreibung zu gnome-settings-daemon?
[05:22] <dtchen> mrpockets: if you're using vbox from the Ubuntu repository, you need to use the version in -updates
[05:22] <jeeves> has anyone found distorted sound in 8.1?  I just upgraded, and it's not pissing me off
[05:22] <mrpockets> dtchen, what is -updates?
[05:22] <vostibackle> so, I stupidly did 'compiz --replace' and then ctrl+z. anyway I can recover without just holding the power button down?
[05:22] <Quagmire> well its great if its NOT ticking you off
[05:22] <mrpockets> bullgard4, keine man sprechen Deutch heir
[05:23] <bullgard4> !language jeeves
[05:23] <dtchen> mrpockets: are you using hardy *and* virtualbox from the hardy repository?
[05:23] <mrpockets> yes
[05:23] <jeeves> bullgard4, thanks
[05:23] <bullgard4> !language | jeeves
[05:23] <dtchen> mrpockets: what's uname -r?
[05:23] <donnyw> thanks yow|laptop. Webcam works well
[05:23] <mrpockets> 2.6.24-22-generic
[05:23] <Droopsta915> where can I get galagon for dosbox?
[05:24] <dtchen> mrpockets: you should update to -23-generic in hardy-updates
[05:24] <jeeves> has anyone found distorted sound in 8.1?  I just upgraded.
[05:24] <dtchen> jeeves: please be more specific
[05:25] <Al1_> Hello i've heard about a skype beta version that works with pulseaudio on hardy? is this true? if it is where can i find it?
[05:25] <jeeves> dtchen, it's an Intel high def audio card, and the sound sounds like an input is being over driven.  even when all of the sliders are all the way down
[05:25] <dtchen> jeeves: which mixer controls, though?
[05:26] <taggie> #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <RHorse> jeeves: it's a hw problem. I had it on a Toshiba sat once, but never on any other puter.
[05:26] <yow|laptop> np donnyw
[05:26] <RHorse> jeeves: does the puter use an external vol control?
[05:26] <jeeves> RHorse, thanks.  just fixed it.  first (pre 8.10) I coulden't get it loud enough, now it distorts
[05:26] <jeeves> dtchen, thanks again, fixed it!
[05:27] <mrpockets> dtchen, this involves mroethan sudo apt-get upgrade yes?
[05:27] <dtchen> mrpockets: yes, you need sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (not upgrade)
[05:28] <harry_v> Hi everyone. I had tried to install ubunto on a old 933 mhz compaq and the swap partion errored out. I have the error and /var/log/messages in pastebin. http://www.pastebin.ca/1339702
[05:28] <mrpockets> you're amazing
[05:28] <harry_v> just trying to figure why it would fail on creating and formating swap
[05:29] <bullgard4> Where can I find a manual for gnome-settings-daemon?
[05:29] <spenser> Hi can anyone enlighten me on how to setup a branch of the linux kernel on a personal git server that keeps up to date with the latest mainline?
[05:29] <mrpockets> bullgard4, you speak English natively?
[05:30] <harry_v> he creation of swap space in partition #5 of SCSI 1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed  <- anyone seen this error before when installing ubunto?
[05:30] <bullgard4> mrpockets: No.
[05:30] <mrpockets> Deine English ist sehr besser als meine Deutsch :-p
[05:30] <tyler_d> need to know where the package - exim4 exists? 64 bit version?
[05:30] <lbs> who knows f-spot under ubuntu 8.10?
[05:32] <lbs> why f-spot in ubuntu 8.10 doesn't have the feature of editing the picture?
[05:33] <keisangi> hi there, i made my system to bypass gdm/kdm, i start in text mode, and then startx to get into graphical mode.. since i stopped  using gdm/kdm, i have no sound anymore ..
[05:33] <harry_v> I may have found the issue. Could be the hard drive is to small for minimum install.
[05:33] <keisangi> someone could help ?
[05:34] <Aquina> lIs your sound subsystem installed correctly?
[05:34] <usser> keisangi, you have to probably run alsa
[05:34] <Aquina> (All necessary packets for it?)
[05:34] <keisangi> when i use kdm or gdm, i have sound properly working, but when i use startx instead no more sound
[05:34] <usser> keisangi, can u run alsamixer in terminal?
[05:34] <nsadmin> keisangi: so, you're stuck with text-based configuration
[05:34] <keisangi> usser, i try it now
[05:34] <dtchen> keisangi: that's because gdm sources the scripts in the Xsession.d dir, whereas startx doesn't
[05:34] <keisangi> $ alsa
[05:34] <keisangi> Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}
[05:34] <usser> keisangi, try alsamixer
[05:35] <spenser> Anyone know of a better place to ask the question I previously asked about setting up a kernel branch on my own server?
[05:35] <dtchen> keisangi: i.e., if you use startx, you'll need to invoke `pulseaudio -D' by hand
[05:35] <keisangi> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:35] <nsadmin> keisangi: perhaps the drivers aren't inserted
[05:35] <kriyas>  when i install apache2 through terminal, i get error message  ,how can i rectify in ubuntu
[05:35] <keisangi> $ pulseaudio -D
[05:35] <keisangi> W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[05:35] <usser> keisangi, try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
[05:35] <dtchen> keisangi: that's fine; how's the sound?
[05:36] <keisangi> usser, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start  seemed to work at least it didn't return any error, but still no sound
[05:36] <nsadmin> keisangi: was it worth it to change things like this? on the other hand, this is a legitamate bug: if it doesn't work properly in text mode as it does in graphical mode, something is wrong and it should be reported as a bug
[05:37] <keisangi> nsadmin, i think so
[05:37] <gords> hi! i just installed kde on ubuntu8 hardy 2.6.24. how will i enable audio support? when i use headset it doesn't have a sound. i'm sure its working since i tested it a while ago.
[05:37] <nsadmin> so, file a bug report
[05:37] <keisangi> nsadmin, where should i do that?
[05:37] <dtchen> keisangi: please run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh, and tell me the url it generates
[05:38] <keisangi> dtchen, i try
[05:38] <nsadmin> by altering things the way you have, you have earned the opportunity to learn the answer to that yourself
[05:38] <dtchen> keisangi: i.e., you need to save that script to your Desktop, then run it as bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[05:40] <keisangi> dtchen, Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ee668994d5ef0c2e659651dc38e3b2017efb5f31
[05:40] <harry_v> ubunto desktop will install fine on a compaq en 933 mhz 256 mb 20gig system right?
[05:40] <harry_v> I mean, that should be fine. but its not in my case.
[05:40] <bullgard4> Where can I find a manual for gnome-settings-daemon?
[05:40] <akdom> can someone point me to a PXE boot iso?
[05:40] <usser> harry_v, could use a little more memory, it'll feel sluggish
[05:40] <usser> harry_v, try xubuntu
[05:41] <dtchen> keisangi: please ensure that your user is in the audio group
[05:41] <usser> harry_v, or lxde
[05:41] <alife> could anyone give me any help? i need php 4.5.8 compiled, and im at a loss for configuration options that will actually hold up under ubuntu
[05:41] <keisangi> dtchen, i will verify now, but since it worked before i think it should be ok ?
[05:41] <harry_v> usser, well it will not install. I hit the install wall when it halts on swap. I get this error   The creation of swap space in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.
[05:41] <harry_v> what isthe difference of xunbunto?
[05:42] <harry_v> xubunto
[05:42] <spenser> akdom:  Here you go the netboot.tar.gz in this folder you can change gutsy to intrepid or hardy if you'd like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot
[05:42] <alife> anybody?
[05:42] <dtchen> keisangi: (e.g., getent group audio|grep $USER>/dev/null)
[05:42] <keisangi> dtchen, ok, i wasn't in audio group somehow .. now i added myself
[05:43] <harry_v> usser, the budget of the employment office will not pay for it.
[05:43] <homeskill> are you supposed to run ./configure and make as a non-root user and just 'make install' as a root?
[05:43] <harry_v> home, both as root
[05:43] <akdom> spenser: it contains just a plain Jane PXE iso?
[05:43] <dtchen> keisangi: you'll need to log out and back in to effect that change
[05:43] <harry_v> ./configure&&make clean&& make&&make install is what i use homeskill
[05:43] <alife> has anyone compiled php 4.5.8 yet?
[05:44] <keisangi> $ getent group audio|grep keisangi
[05:44] <keisangi> audio:x:29:pulse,keisangi
[05:44] <mattgyver83> In vista i can see my ubuntu machine in the network, though when i try to connect to it im asked for a user name and password, when i try my ubuntu login it doesnt work, any ideas?
[05:44] <nsadmin> alife: isn't php after vers 5?
[05:44] <keisangi> dtchen, ok i try, hopefully i'll be right back , with sound .. tnx for the help
[05:44] <alife> nsadmin: whoops, i meant 5.2.8
[05:45] <nsadmin> alife: have you tried?
[05:45] <alife> nsadmin: yep, im having a hellova time getting the right compile options, even tried downloading the source for 5.2.6 official and getting the build options from there
[05:45] <glacies_frost> I'm new to IRC. I'm not sure if I registered my nickname correctly
[05:46] <kernel09l> why some sites show only lines any idea....
[05:46] <nsadmin> glacies_frost: look at #freenode
[05:46] <harry_v> I think Iwill stick with centos. no issues installing it same with fedora.
[05:46] <keisangi> dtchen, still no sound :/
[05:46] <dtchen> keisangi: please rerun the alsa-info.sh script
[05:46] <sexcopter1> question regarding ftp... i'm using lftp, and moved some files from this computer to another (all on local network), and just realised i put them in the wrong place on the "remote" machine. Is it possible with lftp to move files from one place to another on a remote machine, or do i need to ssh into that machine to do it?
[05:46] <keisangi> ok
[05:46] <glacies_frost> nsadmin: Thank you
[05:46] <vineeth_> hi
[05:46] <glacies_frost> #freenode
[05:47] <keisangi> dtchen, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=0770721240e4c9fa2a015cb4f316c15f88f9b2c9
[05:47] <vineeth_> pls help me to configure empathy
[05:47] <alife> nsadmin: could you point me in the right direction to getting a good example set of compile options for ubuntu php?
[05:47] <mrpockets> herrm
[05:47] <mrpockets> broke some shit
[05:47] <nsadmin> alife: look at 5.2.6's debian/rules
[05:48] <vineeth_> i installed and adde acount but it not getting online
[05:48] <vineeth_> any body pls help me
[05:48] <alife> nsadmin: :( was just digging around in there, having problems with things not finding directories still, oh well, ty for the help :P
[05:48] <nsadmin> alife: so you're not going to look there?
[05:49] <dtchen> keisangi: please pastebin the output from `dmesg && cat /proc/interrupts'
[05:49] <alife> nsadmin: no i'm continuing to look there, just getting alot of errors using config options in that file, not sure if its even worth using without the official package, too many things different?
[05:50] <n2diy> Ok, I just installed 8.04 on a test box, now I want to lock it down before going "live" with it. I want to install a root kit detector, and a firewall, suggestions?
[05:50] <nsadmin> from 5.2.6 to 5.2.8?
[05:50] <keisangi> dtchen, http://rafb.net/p/f6ZaAt19.html
[05:50] <alife> yea
[05:51] <nsadmin> ok, maybe you should try the config options you see there, then try ./configure
[05:51] <alife> aye, thats what i've been saying im trying and not getting far with ^^;
[05:51] <nsadmin> if it fails, read the message, think about what it means, explore what that implies
[05:52] <nsadmin> then see if you come to understand why that failure occurs
[05:52] <nsadmin> because
[05:52] <nsadmin> if you can, then maybe you can fix it and move on to the next one
[05:52] <YankDownUnder> Failure occurs because we attempt the impossible.
[05:52] <jkoltner> I have a question about optimizing SSD performance with Ubuntu... the guides suggest redirecting /tmp, /var/log, and /var/tmp to a RAM disk (tmpfs), but if you leave a system configured that way running over time, sooner or later won't you run out of RAM?
[05:52] <akdom> can someone point me to a PXE boot iso?
[05:53] <dtchen> keisangi: do you receive the same error with `amixer -Dhw:0'?
[05:53] <nsadmin> I'm not all that willing to look at each step because it looks like neither are you
[05:53] <alife> I completely understand the process, I was moreover curious as to wether there was a more pertinent set of compile options to check, but apparently this is the best trail, i'll follow it onward
[05:53] <keisangi> dtchen, $ amixer -Dhw:0
[05:53] <keisangi> amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory
[05:54] <dtchen> keisangi: and you've logged out and back in after adding your current user to the audio group?
[05:54] <keisangi> yes
[05:54] <alife> I was not particularly looking for charity from you to clarify :/
[05:54] <nsadmin> alife: use the compile options that you need and can support by installing anything needed during the build process
[05:54] <alife> alright, i think ill just head out
[05:54] <alife> thank you
[05:56] <bullgard4> Where can I find a manual for gnome-settings-daemon?
[05:56] <dtchen> keisangi: ok, let's reload the sound driver: sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[05:56] <dtchen> bullgard4: unfortunately, there isn't one; there is only the source code
[05:57] <keisangi> dtchen, http://rafb.net/p/sH9CTU19.html
[05:58] <dtchen> keisangi: ok, and now try: speaker-test -c2
[05:58] <bullgard4> dtchen: Where is the sourcecode of it to be found? I'd like to have a look into it as a substitute for a manual.
[05:58] <keisangi> dtchen, http://rafb.net/p/uvqt0U56.html
[05:58] <mrpockets> soo
[05:58] <mrpockets> oi
[05:59] <dtchen> bullgard4: apt-get source gnome-settings-daemon
[05:59] <kernel09l> why i can't read web pages as some portion of the page shows lines only and most of it pictures, pls. help
[05:59] <dtchen> bullgard4: or, http://package-import.ubuntu.com/g/gnome-settings-daemon/
[06:00] <kernel09l> nickrud, need ur help pls.
[06:00] <islan> I keep on getting prompted to install nvidia drivers after I already installed one; should I be installing all of them?
[06:01] <dtchen> keisangi: try `speaker-test -c2 -Dplughw:0'
[06:01] <keisangi> dtchen, http://rafb.net/p/uFIcaG91.html
[06:02] <nickrud> kernel09l, wassup? I'm around for a few
[06:02] <topdawg> hi i am completely new to ubuntu like i installed it yesterday new. and im tryiing my hardest to learn this stuff. one of the programs i want to run says i need to update the kernel . i follow the instructions thinking i was doing the right thing on reboot i got an error unable to mount fs on block(0,0)
[06:03] <topdawg> i installed with wubi if that makes a difference
[06:03] <kernel09l> nickrud, thanks , some sites show lines only in some sections, but pictures are fine...
[06:03] <dtchen> keisangi: is this symptom reproducible in a boot from the 8.10 desktop cd?
[06:03] <progenitus> hi
[06:03] <progenitus> i recently installed the nvidia 180.11 drivers
[06:04] <nickrud> !wubi | topdawg you're more likely to get good help with wubi boot problems here
[06:04] <progenitus> after this, my standby refuses to work
[06:04] <progenitus> is it a known problem?
[06:04] <nickrud> kernel09l, you mean with firefox?
[06:04] <kernel09l> yes
[06:04] <nickrud> no text, but something like dotted lines?
[06:05] <kernel09l> nickrud, yes
[06:05] <nickrud> kernel09l, did you just do an update by any chance?
[06:05] <keisangi> dtchen, i wouldn't know, i'd have to try, but i would think  yes. because it's not the first time it happen. i prefer to start in text mode and then start X myself.. ieach time i do the modification to have the system behave like this, i have no more sound..   (#update-rc.d -f kdm remove)
[06:05] <topdawg> ok thank u
[06:05] <kernel09l> you mean update ubuntu
[06:06] <nickrud> yes
[06:06] <topdawg> !wubi
[06:06] <kernel09l> nickrud, it updated last nite....so i saw only 4 updates tonite
[06:06] <keisangi> dtchen, or "#update-rc.d -f gdm remove" too
[06:06] <kernel09l> yesterday was around 200 or more updates
[06:06] <dtchen> keisangi: ok, i need to see the alsa-info.sh output when you've logged in via gdm/kdm
[06:07] <keisangi> dtchen, ok, i reenable kdm, and run alsa-info.sh again.. i'll need to reboot, i'll brb
[06:07] <bullgard4> dtchen: apt-get source gnome-settings-daemon did not work. I had to prefix it with 'sudo'.
[06:07] <dtchen> bullgard4: what was pwd?
[06:07] <progenitus> i recently installed the nvidia 180.11 drivers... and after this, my standby refuses to work on my dell vostro 1500 laptop. is it a known problem?
[06:08] <SunnyDP> do we know how to add the "Fixedsys" font to ubuntu ?
[06:08] <dtchen> progenitus: with that version of the driver, yes. it's fixed in 180.25+
[06:08] <bullgard4> dtchen: I will not tell you my password.
[06:08] <progenitus> thank you :D
[06:08] <progenitus> are they on the repos?
[06:08] <dtchen> bullgard4: `pwd', aka $CWD
[06:08] <progenitus> or do i have to install the bins?
[06:08] <teko> where are my 72 VIRGINS!?!?!?!??
[06:08] <nickrud> kernel09l, ok, my first guesses are firefox, and possibly font caching. To repair font caching, run    sudo fc-cache --force  , log out and back in. check a known bad site
[06:09] <kernel09l> nickrud, sure i'll do that...if still problem will bug you and thanks for your help.
[06:09] <islan> in compiz, it says <Shift> <Super> to initiate .. what is "Super"?
[06:09] <bullgard4> dtchen: '~$ echo $CWD' does not produce any output.
[06:10] <dtchen> bullgard4: i.e., the directory you were in probably didn't allow your user write permissions. i presumed you were in a writeable directory for your user.
[06:10] <keisangi> dtchen, i can confirm, i just rebooted and started through kdm, and i have sound working ..
[06:10] <dtchen> keisangi: please rerun the alsa-info.sh script
[06:10] <keisangi> i run alsa-info.sh
[06:10] <keisangi> yes
[06:11] <keisangi> dtchen, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=81c5676d76b079d927231f1d18c1dbaa1252c726
[06:11] <jkoltner> I have a question about optimizing SSD performance with Ubuntu... the guides suggest redirecting /tmp, /var/log, and /var/tmp to a RAM disk (tmpfs), but if you leave a system configured that way running over time, sooner or later won't you run out of RAM?
[06:12] <bullgard4> dtchen: Before I issued the command that you suggested I changed to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/Documentation
[06:13] <nickrud> jkoltner, it's possible. /var/log pretty much maintains itself and the others generally won't get large. If you examine occasionally you shouldn't have any problems
[06:14] <nickrud> jkoltner, just make sure your apps that generate large tmp files (like video) use tmp files in your home, for example
[06:14] <tyler_d> bullgard4: what is that supposed to produce?
[06:15] <bullgard4> tyler_d: I cannot see any use in your question.
[06:15] <dtchen> bullgard4: right, /usr/src requires your user to be in the src group or be root
[06:15] <dtchen> keisangi: ah, looks like a codec bug, then
[06:15] <keisangi> dtchen, really ?
[06:15] <tyler_d> bullgard4: alternately type `which "name of app"`
[06:15] <num1fng> i need some help installing video drivers on a laptop with a ATI mobility M7
[06:16] <dtchen> keisangi: i've seen it fairly rarely, and most of the time it *should* be worked around in the codec initialisation
[06:16] <tyler_d> bullgard4: these values are user specific and located either within $HOME/.bashrc or $HOME/.bash_profile
[06:16] <keisangi> dtchen, what could i do ? how come starting though kdm i do have sound working, and while starting in text mode i don't ? looks like something dooesn't gets started to me ?
[06:16] <hioe> hey guys whats that extra package for virtual box called?
[06:16] <tyler_d> bullgard4: upon altering these files you can reload them by typing `. $HOME/.bash_profile` or rc
[06:17] <empiric> hi all i want to run visual basic in ubuntu any idea?
[06:17] <tyler_d> bullgard4: note that `which typically will reference global variables not user variables.
[06:17] <empiric> does wine support it?
[06:17] <dtchen> keisangi: would really need to dig further; please file a bug report affecting the linux source package
[06:17] <tyler_d> bullgard4: as for my question... curiousity
[06:17] <jkoltner> nickrud: Thanks for the help
[06:18] <keisangi> dtchen, where  should i file this bug ?
[06:18] <keisangi> where (site) and in which category ?
[06:18] <nickrud> jkoltner, mind you, I probably didn't think of all the ramifications, just the gross tip of them ;)
[06:18] <jkoltner> nickrud: Years ago at school on shared Unix systems the standard operating procedure was to transfer large files to /tmp and compile them there since your home directory was limited to, e.g., 100MB!
[06:19] <dtchen> keisangi: launchpad.net, the category is 'linux'
[06:19] <dtchen> keisangi: (category -> source package)
[06:19] <keisangi> dtchen, ok i try to do it
[06:19] <keisangi> thanks for all the help
[06:19] <Veratyr9> about to install a mac os on virtualbox, is there any way for linux to read dmg files or should i convert it (i converted it to iso but its no longer bootable)
[06:20] <bullgard4> tyler_d: I presume you are thinking in another direction differing from my problem at hand. I cannot continue talking to you as I am busy in another channel yet. --  Thank you that you tried to help me.
[06:20] <bullgard4> dtchen: Thank you very much for your help.
[06:21] <Guest25449> hp invent screen
[06:21] <rww> Veratyr9: According to Wikipedia, "In Linux, the file can be burned to cd/dvd using the program cdrecord or directly mounted to a mountpoint (e.g. mount -o loop,ro -t hfsplus imagefile.dmg /mnt/mountpoint)."
[06:21] <tyler_d> bullgard4: fair enough.... communication being key... vague question but I took a stab at it... gl
[06:22] <keisangi> dtchen, in launchpad, i logged, clicked on submit a bug, choosen ubuntu as distro, and then i can't see the package "source" you're speaking about ?
[06:23] <xsever> hello everyone
[06:23] <dtchen> keisangi: later, it will ask for the affected source package, just put `linux' there
[06:23] <DoYouKnow> Hi. I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200m on ubuntu hardy heron, and I'm wondering how I can increase the resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024
[06:23] <DoYouKnow> there is no option in the screen resolution area, but I can do this in windows
[06:24] <tyler_d> anyone know where evolution logs to?
[06:24] <islan> should I install multiple nvidia drivers since ubuntu keeps bugging me about them?  I already have the recommended one installed
[06:24] <keisangi> dtchen, ok, but then here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug
[06:24] <keisangi> what do i put ?
[06:24] <keisangi> package ?
[06:24] <mimaki> hi... where can i find a guide bout creating a shell server?
[06:24] <keisangi> project ?
[06:26] <Veratyr9> rww: oh yea, totally slipped my mind you can mount things besides iso.  guess i have a one track mind, thanks
[06:27] <ntnhan> anyone knows how to run qemu accelerator on Hardy? I installed 2 packages kqemu-common and kqemu-sources, but qemu runs very slow
[06:27] <DoYouKnow> any ideas on how I can crank up the resolution on ubuntu?
[06:28] <DoYouKnow> like it is in windows?
[06:28] <dtchen> keisangi: choose 'linux' for the Package
[06:28] <keisangi> dtchen, ok
[06:29] <dtchen> keisangi: if you want to be more specific, you can choose linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic
[06:31] <DoYouKnow> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1200
[06:31] <DoYouKnow> is the output of xrandr
[06:32] <ashlessburn> system>prefrences>screen resolution
[06:33] <DoYouKnow> it doesn't show up there
[06:33] <ashlessburn> u have the right driver picked?
[06:33] <DoYouKnow> yeah
[06:34] <DoYouKnow> xrandr shows 1280x1200 as the max, but there is nothing like that in screen resolution
[06:34] <DoYouKnow> can I edit xorg.conf? and will it work?
[06:34] <homeskill> sound stopped working on my ubuntu laptop. i was able to hear sound while watchin videos. i think it got messed up after i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but im not sure. any ideas?
[06:35] <DoYouKnow> I'm going to be back in a second
[06:35] <DoYouKnow> I'll see if this setting works
[06:35] <sexcopter1> homeskill: have you opened the volume mixer (double click the speaker icon, not single click) and checked all the relevant sliders are off the bottom? also there may be more than one device to check there...
[06:35] <homeskill> my sound isnt muted and ubuntu sees that i have a soundcard plus alsa.
[06:35] <The_Rebel> is it possible to shadow an NX session with compiz running?
[06:36] <homeskill> sexcopter the sliders are up
[06:36] <homeskill> and i tried both sound devices it lists
[06:37] <keisangi> dtchen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/330402
[06:37] <DoYouKnow> that didn't work
[06:37] <sexcopter1> homeskill: hmm, i'm probably not going to be able ot help you then, but one other thing to look at is system -> prefs -> sound
[06:38] <DoYouKnow> I tried editing xorg.conf to manually change my resolution. no effect in ubuntu hardy heron
[06:39] <DoYouKnow> is there a more manual way of changing the resolution in ubuntu?
[06:40] <IntuitiveNipple> DoYouKnow: It depends what changes you make. What did you add?
[06:40] <DoYouKnow> I added a display section
[06:40] <DoYouKnow> with the 1280x1024 part, so that I can run higher resolutions like windows
[06:40] <DoYouKnow> m$ windows
[06:41] <sheldonh> how can i get affix support working in spell checking in openoffice, xchat, firefox, evolution etc? in Language Support, my default language is "English (South Africa)". my spelling-related package list is available at http://pastie.org/391480.txt
[06:42] <IntuitiveNipple> DoYouKnow: Did you add a Monitor section declaring the frequencies the display can support? Usually that is the reason that resolutions are limited.
[06:43] <DoYouKnow> IntuitiveNipple: this is a laptop
[06:44] <DoYouKnow> IntuitiveNipple: what does screen resolutions do when it needs to change the resolution?
[06:44] <DoYouKnow> does it go into xorg.conf?
[06:44] <chx> I have searched the forums but cant find the answer. Is there a deb for the new Sun Java or should i just go with the Sun installer?
[06:44] <IntuitiveNipple> DoYouKnow: It depends on whether the system can get accurate information from EDID mostly.
[06:45] <DoYouKnow> IntuitiveNipple: edid?
[06:45] <IntuitiveNipple> chx: *which* new Sun Java?
[06:45] <chx> which? Sun Java 6 upgrade 12
[06:45] <DoYouKnow> IntuitiveNipple: well, that command I posted earlier reports higher resolutions as being available
[06:45] <DoYouKnow> IntuitiveNipple: I'm trying to switch my monitor to those higher resolutions
[06:45] <ENERGIZE> hello i got frostwire installed on ubuntu but it doesnt start up
[06:45] <chx> it's said to have x64 browser plguin.
[06:45] <homeskill> sound stopped working for me. i went into sound prefs and click 'test' on 'sound playback: autodetect' and it says 'audiotestsrc wav=sin freq=5122 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused' any ideas?
[06:45] <chx> that'd be warmly welcome.
[06:46] <IntuitiveNipple> DoYouKnow: That sounds promising. What video chipset is it? Are you using a proprietary driver or an open-source driver? Which one?
[06:46] <sheldonh> interestingly, aspell works perfectly, understanding words like participants. but affix support is broken in all the gnomish apps
[06:46] <jeeves> how can I import my e-mail?  I used the "backup" function on evouilition, and it now won't re-import it
[06:46] <IntuitiveNipple> chx: Oh they've finally got around to it have they?
[06:47] <chx> yes
[06:47] <chx> finally.
[06:47] <ENERGIZE> what is the best app for ubuntu
[06:47] <chx> erm
[06:47] <homeskill> ENERGIZE find
[06:47] <chx> Update 12
[06:47] <chx> sorry.
[06:47] <sakhi> whats the alien syntax/command used to convert all rpm to deb
[06:47] <DoYouKnow> IntuitiveNipple: open source driver
[06:47] <chx> anyways, i presume 9.04 will be the first really usuable x64 on desktop
[06:47] <jeeves> how do I get evoulition to re-import my settings from a backup file?
[06:47] <IntuitiveNipple> chx: I don't think it'll be back-ported and I'm not aware of a package for Jaunty either. I've found OpenJDK to do the job well on 64-bit
[06:47] <ENERGIZE> its called find
[06:48] <IntuitiveNipple> chx: I've been using 64-bit since Gutsy with few issues.
[06:48] <jeeves> anyone on this e-mail issue?
[06:48] <dtchen> keisangi: thatks
[06:48] <dtchen> keisangi: thanks*
[06:49] <keisangi> dtchen, tnx to you :)
[06:49] <chx> I am using Hardy and it's fine
[06:49] <ENERGIZE> how do you get frostwire to work
[06:49] <chx> however, the lack of a java plugin sometimes make my life a bit harder
[06:49] <chx> but no probs, i have four machines lying around, so i am banking on laptop
[06:49] <chx> not a biggie.
[06:50] <IntuitiveNipple> chx: Yes, Hardy is very stable on 64-bit... I used the OpenJDK on it and that has a working java plugin
[06:50] <chx> IntuitiveNipple: apt-get install what?
[06:50] <vigo> chx: I agree, I have used the Sun 'kit' or whatever, but the stable ones that are known to work with the kerenel are always better, unless you want to improve it,,which is always welcomed. long as the GPL/GNU and whatnot licenses are followed
[06:51] <DoYouKnow> IntuitiveNipple: I just want compiz to work on this system with high resolution
[06:52] <DoYouKnow> I'm getting a new pc soon, I thought I'd give the linux thing one last shot with this one
[06:52] <DoYouKnow> *new laptop
[06:52] <DoYouKnow> but I've tried doing this before without success
[06:53] <cfedde> DoYouKnow: you have the non free drivers for your video card?
[06:53] <DoYouKnow> no, the free drivers
[06:53] <DoYouKnow> this is an radeon xpress 200m
[06:53] <DoYouKnow> ati
[06:53] <DoYouKnow> the nonfree ones won't work with compiz afaik
[06:53] <Rinderwahn> hey guys how do I boot linux again after I've just installed windows 7 on a seperate partition? I believe I have to reinstall grub but IDK
[06:54] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: they do, just poorly just like everything fglrx does
[06:54] <cfedde> they're labled ati/amd proprietary fglrx graphics driver in the hardware drivers dialog from the admin menu.
[06:54] <homeskill> my sound works now that i've rebooted. weird
[06:54] <nsadmin> Rinderwahn what happens when you try to boot
[06:54] <homeskill> what is this windows :P
[06:54] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: compiz is working now?
[06:54] <DoYouKnow> yeah, crdlb
[06:54] <Rinderwahn> it boots straight to windows nsadmin
[06:54] <DoYouKnow> should compiz work automatically if I install fglrx?
[06:55] <nsadmin> where did you install grub to
[06:55] <jeeves> how do I reimport my evoulation e-mail from a backup?
[06:55] <DoYouKnow> will it automatically insteall the right environment?
[06:55] <bastid_raZor> !grub > Rinderwahn
[06:55] <Rinderwahn> nsadmin: IDk default location?
[06:55] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: yes
[06:55] <DoYouKnow> ok, I'll try that
[06:55] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: did you try using xrandr to switch the resolution?
[06:55] <DoYouKnow> crdlb: xandr can switch too?
[06:56] <nsadmin> not sure what that would be... different people have different hardware... you'll have to find otu
[06:56] <cfedde> the default xorg drivers might not beable to drive the ati card in high res.
[06:56] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: yes
[06:57] <crdlb> that's essentially what the screen resolution panel uses
[06:58] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: try: xrandr -s WWWWxHHHH with the resolution you want
[06:58] <Netcowboy> hello, I was tryn Kde lastnite so I did apt-get kubuntu-kd4-desktop , then I removed it but when I boot i still get the Kubunu word instead of Ubuntu , how to fix that ?
[06:58] <DoYouKnow> oh, it didn't work... the modes listed aren't near the maximum
[06:58] <DoYouKnow> why is that?
[06:58] <Netcowboy> install *
[06:58] <KoKoZ> Fuck Candolisa Rise, Fuck Bush, Fuck Obama, Fuck stupid fat americans!
[06:59] <J-_> I guess my highlights work. lol :D
[06:59] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: so 'xrandr' doesn't show the highest resolution?
[06:59] <DoYouKnow> crdlb: no
[06:59] <nickrud> so do mine :)
[07:00] <DoYouKnow> crdlb: xrandr shows Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1200
[07:00] <olskolirc> how do I 'ls' just to see the hidden files and not every file and directory?
[07:00] <DoYouKnow> but it's not listed in the modes
[07:00] <DoYouKnow> 1280x1200 isn't listed in the modes, which are below that
[07:00] <empiric> guys any one work on visual basic on ubuntu with wine
[07:00] <DoYouKnow> I'm going to try fglrx
[07:00] <nsadmin> olskolirc how do you know what a hidden file is?
[07:01] <crdlb> DoYouKnow: 1280x1200 would be a rather odd resolution, wouldn't it?
[07:01] <plazia> I think it would be more even than odd.
[07:01] <olskolirc> any file that has a . in front of it nsadmin  will not show up....those are hidden files.  If you type: ls -a you will see all your files visible and hidden.  I just want to see the hidden files with ls so that woulld be ls and what?
[07:01] <gords> hi! i'm using ubuntu8 hardy 2.4.24.  when i install/build gspca driver i gat this error:  FATAL you need to install the Kernel Source for your running kernel.
[07:02] <olskolirc> nsadmin,
[07:02] <gords> any ideas?
[07:02] <nsadmin> olskolirc how would you see (for example) all files endging in .gz
[07:02] <plazia> gords, i think that means you need to install the kernel-source package for the kernel version you are running.
[07:03] <olskolirc> nsadmin, im not looking for -l either
[07:03] <gords> plazia, im using kernel 2.6.24, so you mean apt-get install kernel-source
[07:03] <plazia> in some cases that might be apt-get install linux-source-2.6.27
[07:04] <plazia> gords, I guess so
[07:04] <olskolirc> just the hidden files nsadmin or you don't know..if you don't know, move on im not up for newbie challanges
[07:04] <nsadmin> olskolirc: oh, if that's the case... man ls
[07:04] <Cotowar> hey, is usser in here?
[07:04] <olskolirc> im there but I dont see it.....i might be over looking something
[07:05] <nsadmin> then answer the question
[07:05] <BWS> hello,
[07:05] <olskolirc> move nsadmin
[07:05] <BWS> I need a bit of help.
[07:05] <BWS> I remember a long time ago I found a script/php program/perl that would take a mbox file
[07:05] <jp_sf> !ask | BWS
[07:06] <Cotowar> does anyone know the syntax for running mp3rename recursively on a directory?
[07:06] <BWS> I remember a long time ago I found a script/php program/perl that would take a mbox file and make it accessible on the web threaded. I forgot what its called now.. does anyone know/
[07:07] <xsever> i have ubuntu 8.04 installed on one HD and XP Pro on another   the ubuntu one is Master while the XP one is slave. if the Ubuntu HD is plugged alone, it works fine. Once i plug the XP Pro as slave, i get DIsk boot Failure
[07:07] <nsadmin> perhaps what you need to understand is filename globbing, which is something the shell does
[07:07] <xsever> can anyone help with this?
[07:07] <Cotowar> i need to rename some files based on id3 tags
[07:07] <jelly-bean1> what's the best torrent app right now for gnome?
[07:07] <RussM> olskolirc, I'm confused, what are you  trying to do?
[07:07] <IntuitiveNipple> olskolirc: You want to list just 'dot' files in a directory?
[07:07] <Cotowar> im not quite sure how to do it
[07:07] <Cotowar> and for torrents I use Vuze
[07:07] <IntuitiveNipple> olskolirc: ls -ad .[^.]*
[07:08] <xsever> anyone?
[07:08] <Cotowar> jelly-bean, did you get that?
[07:08] <jelly-bean1> Cotowar: i have an old version of Azureus that is buggy. is that stand-alone? or package management now?
[07:08] <olskolirc> woww thank IntuitiveNipple
[07:08] <RussM> olskolirc, I'd go w/ IntuitiveNipple's command, unless you're trying to avoid directories, too.
[07:08] <xsever> no helo
[07:08] <Cotowar> Vuse is the newest edition, i got it out of package management Add/Remove
[07:08] <xsever> help
[07:09] <KevDog> kismet help please!
[07:09] <IntuitiveNipple> olskolirc: Also, you could do find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -name '.*'
[07:09] <olskolirc> got it IntuitiveNipple thanks
[07:09] <Cotowar> I would try completely removing Azureus in synaptic, then installing with a sudo aptitude install vuze
[07:09] <RussM> IntuitiveNipple, Hey, stop lookin' at my buffer! ;)
[07:10] <IntuitiveNipple> RussM: That one -  ls -ad .[^.]*  - does avoid sub-directories (using the -d)
[07:10] <olskolirc> YEAHH THATS THE ONE IntuitiveNipple (thumbs up)
[07:10] <RussM> IntuitiveNipple, Yeah, but if you were trying to skip the directory names, the find's the trick.
[07:10] <IntuitiveNipple> RussM: Oh I see what you mean :)
[07:10] <arturo> can any body help me... my firefox 3.0.6 is falling( fault over fault ) ???
[07:10] <Name141> Hello, I am having a problem with 8.10 not getting an IP# from the router.  It makes the router light twinkle like there is hi activity, however it never gets an IP# and connects to the network.  Is there anyway to fix that ?
[07:11] <Cotowar> intuitivenipple, do you know how to rename files based on id3 tags? I ran an mp3 converter, so all my files are like name.wma.mp3 now
[07:11] <Cotowar> and i want to get rid of that
[07:11] <Name141> high*
[07:12] <Name141> this doesn't happen in 8.04
[07:12] <arturo> any solution for firefox 3.0.6 errors?
[07:12] <IntuitiveNipple> Cotowar: There are command-line and GUI apps that do that real well. I've just moved to Jaunty so I don't have them installed now, and I can't remember there names!
[07:13] <Cotowar> alright
[07:13] <jelly-bean1> Cotowar: i'm running ubuntu 8 and i am searching 'all open source applications' for 'vuze' but not turning up any results. not in synaptic either.
[07:13] <sumpygump> Cotowar: try 'man mp3rename' to view the manual page for mp3rename, I believe the example at the end does what you are talking about.
[07:13] <KevDog> Anyone know a method of how to patch and recompile the mac80211 module only if I have the kernel sources?
[07:13] <Cotowar> okay
[07:13] <RussM> Cotowar, you can do it with  some bash scripting, too. I've done stuff like that.
[07:13] <Cotowar> ill check that
[07:13] <IntuitiveNipple> Cotowar: haha - the GUI one is EasyTag
[07:13] <Cotowar> okay
[07:13] <BWS> does anyone know/
[07:14] <sumpygump> jelly-bean1: have you tried Transmission?
[07:14] <Cotowar> why can't i install easytag and easytag-acc?
[07:15] <Cotowar> i can only do one or the other
[07:15] <nsadmin> Cotowar: check dpkg -s easytag
[07:16] <sac> aloow
[07:17] <KevDog> rough crowd in here tonight :)
[07:17] <SunnyDP> :D LOL:D
[07:18] <ehhtehh> hello i messed up my grub and i booted from live cd and i typed in term as root /mkdir /ubuntu
[07:18] <ehhtehh> then i typed mount /dev/sda5 /ubuntu
[07:19] <Cotowar> I don't think easytag is what I'm looking for
[07:19] <ehhtehh> and it said  you must specify a type
[07:19] <Cotowar> im looking for something that will read the id3 of each file, then change the title automatically
[07:19] <Cotowar> i have almost 9k files to do, and am not in the mood for doing it all by hand
[07:20] <nickrud> Cotowar, you mean write the file name from the title in th id?
[07:20] <RussM> Cotowar, eyeD3 has a "-rename" option.
[07:20] <RussM> Cotowar, It lets you specify a name in a form that it will substitute in the track#, title, artist, etc.
[07:20] <nickrud> Cotowar, cuz if you do, easytag does that quite nicely
[07:20] <nsadmin> Cotowar maybe you can script it if (a) you know some scripting language or (b) you can learn one
[07:21] <illumin8> Hi, recently i repartitioned my 300GB HD to install multiple linux oses, I noticed when ubuntu installed i had 3 options, entire disk, guided partition or manual, when i ran guided it asked me to adjust space at the beginning of the partition to give it a swap, but i had already set aside a swap. How can i resolve this issue of self set swap space?
[07:21] <nickrud> illumin8, use the manual partitioning
[07:21] <Cotowar> i would script it, but im tired, and don't know bash or perl like...at all
[07:21] <illumin8> nickrud, so i will need to assign it swap and it should work?
[07:21] <Cotowar> all the languages i know are useless in this case, not counting the fact i don't know what I'm trying to do from a programming standpoint
[07:22] <nickrud> illumin8, yes, you'll be setting up each partition you use manually -- type, placement, size, label, mount point, etc.
[07:22] <Cotowar> and yes nickrud, i have a bunch of files with messed up names. i would like to fix them automatically
[07:22] <nickrud> Cotowar, file names, right?
[07:22] <Cotowar> yea
[07:22] <illumin8> nickrud, I see, so if i want to use 50gb inside an extended partion i will need to manually set them up first in gparted then assign them in the installer?
[07:23] <Cotowar> the names are like name.wma.mp3 because i transcoded them
[07:23] <homeskill> Cotowar are you sure the id3 tags arent messed up
[07:23] <Cotowar> yea
[07:23] <sumpygump> Cotowar: do you just want to get rid of the .wma part of the filename? Or more complex than that?
[07:23] <Cotowar> just get rid of the .wma
[07:23] <nickrud> Cotowar, load up easytag, and scanner->rename files/directories. you can process the id3 info into a file name however you like with wildcards
[07:24] <homeskill> cotowar ah thats way easy then
[07:24] <Veratyr9> what is the exact options to use with mount to mount a standard iso?
[07:24] <KevDog> Cotowar -- would the use of sed just be the easiest way in this case?
[07:24] <Cotowar> i have no clue
[07:24] <rww> !iso | Veratyr9
[07:24]  * nickrud thinks KevDog's would be easiest, if he wrote the one liner ;)
[07:25] <Veratyr9> <3 ubottu, thx again rww
[07:25] <Cotowar> and I can't remember what the abbreviations are for easytag. all I want is title - artist. is that %t - %a
[07:25] <Cotowar> or is %n for name, and %t for track number?
[07:25] <JJ|Laptop> any ideas why every so often my keyboard freezes and i can't open any menus on the gnome toolbar?
[07:25] <bobbie4_> I love the ubuntu thing on my computer
[07:25] <Cotowar> i looked in the man, and it didnt say
[07:26] <nickrud> Cotowar, you can see the wildcards by clicking the funny looking face on the scanner
[07:26] <Cotowar> right, but what do the letters stand for
[07:26] <Cotowar> i feel retarded asking that, but id rather not dick with this longer than i need to
[07:26] <nickrud> Cotowar, click the question mark to see the legend
[07:27] <olethri0s> I have an old laptop with a fscked dvdrom and for some reason won't let me boot from a usb stick... is there a way to empty a partition, mount the iso in windows xp, and install onto the clean partition?
[07:27] <Cotowar> i have no question mark?
[07:28] <bbns_bt> ii
[07:28] <IntuitiveNipple> olethri0s: LookUp wubi - that may help
[07:28] <Cotowar> oh, duh
[07:28] <Flannel> olethri0s: Please watch the language.  And, try one of the methods here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:28] <Cotowar> i changed my icon set, so i really dont have a question mark
[07:28] <Cotowar> my bad
[07:29] <homeskill> Cotowar http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/030
[07:29] <Cotowar> got it. thanks guys
[07:29] <Cotowar> really, you have saved my week
[07:29] <cloud-nist> I am using 8.10 and it seems like every two or 3 days if I leave music playing my audio makes this horrible noise that does not go away until I reboot. Does anyone know a fix?
[07:30] <olethri0s> thanks Flannel
[07:30] <nickrud> Cotowar, don't expect it to go quickly, renaming around 3500 took quite a while; 45 min to an hour? something like that
[07:30] <olethri0s> Much appreciated, and sorry fer teh mouf ;)
[07:30] <Cotowar> im going to let it run all night
[07:30] <Cotowar> im going to bed
[07:30] <olskolirc> I just got a kernel upgrade to 2.6.27-12-generic but it shows me that I still have 2.6.27-11-generic.  What happened
[07:31] <sumpygump> cloud-nist: is it audio streaming over the network, or local files?
[07:31] <nickrud> Cotowar, practice on a subdir first :)
[07:31] <Cotowar> and its got about 35000 to do...lol
[07:31] <Cotowar> yea
[07:31] <Cotowar> i got that set already
[07:31] <Cotowar> the broken songs from limewire
[07:31] <cloud-nist> sumpygump: Local mp3 files....
[07:31] <olskolirc> I did a gedit on /boot/grub/menu.lst and 12 isn't in there
[07:31] <Cotowar> should i be using compression?
[07:31] <_R4t_> i just install ubuntu server but i can't access it using the host name only with the IP i need to access it with the hostname
[07:31] <visitor> 哈哈
[07:31] <_R4t_> what are my options here?
[07:32] <cloud-nist> sumpygump: the noise it makes is like my audio gets STUCK and stays that way till I reboot the machine.
[07:32] <Gnewt> Hey hey
[07:32] <Gnewt> 23:26 < Gnewt> http://gnewt.pastebin.com/d368f0999
[07:32] <Gnewt> 23:26 < Gnewt> But
[07:32] <Gnewt> 23:26 < Gnewt> root@fidelity:/sbin# ifup he-ipv6
[07:32] <Gnewt> 23:26 < Gnewt> ioctl: No buffer space available
[07:32] <FloodBot2> Gnewt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <Gnewt> 23:26 < Gnewt> Failed to bring up he-ipv6.
[07:32] <azlon> what do i type in terminal to find out what version of ubuntu i have?
 because you decided to keep the old GRUB menu.lst when asked
[07:32] <SunnyDP> !!!
[07:32] <Cotowar> eh, im going to do it
[07:32] <visitor> 大家好
[07:32] <SunnyDP> it's your fault
[07:32] <rww> !version | azlon
[07:32] <sumpygump> okay, I was gonna say, sometimes it happens to me that when the network is no longer available and it keeps trying to play the song, it just sounds like static, so it must be a different problem.
[07:32] <SunnyDP> now you need to re-get the grub
[07:32] <casio1374633> hello , i have two laptop(both ubuntu8.04) and a hub , how can i sharing net ?
[07:32] <olskolirc> it didn't ask it just installed and left SunnyDP
[07:32] <olskolirc> Kubuntu
[07:32] <visitor> 就阿
[07:32] <SunnyDP> no no
[07:32] <visitor> 了；看到；卡；
[07:32] <SunnyDP> i just did mine
[07:32] <visitor> 开了发；dlkf
[07:32] <visitor> owe
[07:32] <FloodBot2> visitor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <SunnyDP> and i have it in my list
[07:32] <SunnyDP> and last time
[07:33] <olskolirc> admin dump visitor
[07:33] <SunnyDP> i didnt because i did same mistake as you
[07:33] <cloud-nist> It could be my sound card but I was hoping not to have to buy one right away. I do have an old one.
[07:33] <casio1374633> anybody knows ?
[07:33] <visitor> 就阿就
[07:33] <rww> !enter | SunnyDP
[07:33] <casio1374633> 访问 #ubuntu-cn
[07:33] <casio1374633> visitor: 用/j #ubuntu-cn
[07:33] <Cotowar> one last question...how do i actually get it to rename the files?
 run this command: sudo update-grub
[07:34] <SunnyDP> it will fix your problem
[07:34] <olskolirc> thanks SunnyDP you guys so rock
[07:34] <cloud-nist> Anyone else have ideas as to why my audio gets stuck in a horrible sound till I reboot Ubuntu?
[07:34] <SunnyDP> then you can edit your menu.lst
[07:34] <SunnyDP> dont forget to confirm that it worked
[07:34] <karex> HI, how to log into ubuntu if GRUB is erased???
[07:35] <casio1374633> hello ???? anyone knows how to sharing net by hub ?
[07:35] <nickrud> Cotowar, the icon to the right of the dropdown on the scanner window
[07:35] <Gnewt> http://gnewt.pastebin.com/d47937297 << there's a Pastebin of my issue while trying to configure IPv6... why is ioctl complaining?
[07:35] <casio1374633> which software can do this like sygate in xp
[07:37] <mimaki> hi
[07:37] <mimaki> how to install ncurses library?
[07:37] <Cotowar> nickrud, I am in the main window. are you talking about in scanner > rename files & directories?
[07:37] <olskolirc> uname -a still shows me kernel 11 and /boot/grub/menu.lst still shows version 11 and not 2.6.27-12-generic anyone?
[07:37] <nsadmin> mimaki for what purpose
[07:37] <mimaki> psybnc
[07:37] <mimaki> i got an error
[07:38] <nsadmin> what error
[07:38] <olskolirc> uname -a still shows me kernel 11 and /boot/grub/menu.lst still shows version 11 and not 2.6.27-12-generic even after update-grub
[07:38] <mimaki> these needs the ncurses library
[07:38] <nsadmin> when you do exactly waht
[07:39] <mimaki> when i use make commands
[07:39] <mimaki> when i use make command
[07:39] <nsadmin> so you are compiling
[07:39] <mimaki> yes
[07:39] <nsadmin> you would need the -dev part of it then
[07:39] <bangalibabu> i'm trying to use my motorola L7 mobile as a modem on ubuntu but ubuntu couldn't detect it as a modem, what do i do? i tried wvdialconf, but it failed came up with the message "...scanned serial ports, .......didn't detect any modem.........", but my phone is connected to usb port, please help me
[07:39] <Cotowar> nickrud, which window are you in for easytag? im in the main window and can't seem to see an icon for starting the actual renaming
[07:40] <mimaki> how will i get it?
[07:40] <vlad> I whant to ask somf what is the diferention between instaling linux on a ntfs... whit wubi and instaling direct from the cd ? on his own type of hard
[07:40] <bobbie4_> Ubuntu is fun for the whole family
[07:40] <nsadmin> !info ncurses-dev
[07:40] <nsadmin> !info ncurses
[07:40] <vlad> I whant to ask somf what is the diferention between instaling linux on a ntfs... whit wubi and instaling direct from the cd ? on his own type of hard is there enywhone able to answer my question
[07:41] <nsadmin> !info ncurses5
[07:41] <IntuitiveNipple> !ncurses-bin
[07:41] <vlad> I whant to ask somf what is the diferention between instaling linux on a ntfs... whit wubi and instaling direct from the cd ? on his own type of hard is there enywhone able to answer my question
[07:41] <nsadmin> you'll have to go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the -dev part of it, then install that
[07:42] <bangalibabu>  i'm trying to use my motorola L7 mobile as a modem on ubuntu but ubuntu couldn't detect it as a modem, what do i do? i tried wvdialconf, but it failed came up with the message "...scanned serial ports, .......didn't detect any modem.........", but my phone is connected to usb port, please help me
[07:42] <vlad> nsadmin: ?
[07:42] <nsadmin> I don't answer those
[07:42] <nsadmin> you'll have to specify a question
[07:42] <IntuitiveNipple> use apt-cache search ncurses
[07:43] <vlad> I think is a simple question ...  what shod i install better wubi ? or from a cd ... and if i instal by wubi do i lose eny of rhe action of linux
[07:43] <vlad> ?
[07:43] <bangalibabu> is there anyone who can help me
[07:43] <SunnyDP> just install directly to your HDD brother
[07:43] <dark_abyss0> can someone walk me though adding the universe and multiverse repositories?
[07:44] <SunnyDP> it almost never fails :D
[07:44] <nsadmin> vlad do you have unpartitioned space on the drive? or do you have spare drives?
[07:44] <SunnyDP> dark: system-->admin-->soft sorces
[07:44] <SunnyDP> :D
[07:44] <IntuitiveNipple> vlad: wubi uses the Windows boot-loader and exists inside a file on the NTFS system, so there is a level of overhead in the NTFS > linux image translation.
[07:44] <SunnyDP> check the 4 repos on top
[07:44] <dark_abyss0> I dont admin in system
[07:44] <nsadmin> which would make it somewhat slower
[07:44] <SunnyDP> administration ?
[07:45] <SunnyDP> look PM me
[07:45] <dark_abyss0> nope
[07:45] <vlad> nsadmin:  i already instaled ubuntu ... but i whant to know if it is bad or good to be instaled on a ntfs... hard
[07:45] <mattwj2002> is it even possible to install Linux using only NTFS?
[07:45] <nsadmin> I'd say bad... ntfs is an unknown moving target
[07:45] <vlad> What can happen
[07:45] <BWS> ntfs = bad..
[07:45] <IntuitiveNipple> vlad: It's just different. Nothing 'bad' or 'good' - it depends on what you need from it as a user.
[07:45] <nsadmin> unknown
[07:46] <bangalibabu>  i'm trying to use my motorola L7 mobile as a modem on ubuntu but ubuntu couldn't detect it as a modem, what do i do? i tried wvdialconf, but it failed came up with the message "...scanned serial ports, .......didn't detect any modem.........", but my phone is connected to usb port, please help me
[07:46] <mattwj2002> bangalibabu have you tried the wiki?
[07:46] <gimpuzmani_> hi
[07:46] <bangalibabu> not yet
[07:46] <vlad> IntuitiveNipple: Nipple what can`t i do when linux is instaled on ntfs
[07:47] <nsadmin> be independent of its influence?
[07:47] <mattwj2002> nothing on the wiki
[07:47] <vlad> nsadmin:  i am not the only user thats why i ask
[07:47] <nsadmin> one thing you can do, is learn unix-style shell and commands
[07:48] <scientes> whats the program in buuntu called that tells you what the package name is ?
[07:48] <nsadmin> the only user of what?
[07:48] <scientes> when you enter a command?
[07:48] <azril> hello im noob
[07:48] <IntuitiveNipple> vlad: Hibernation isn't supported
[07:48] <coz_> hey guys  ok tired  chmos 400 and chattr +i  fore reccenlty-used.xbel with no rsults and no one in #gnome wants to take this apparenlty
[07:48] <coz_> anyother suggestions?
[07:48] <nsadmin> scientes: apt-file?
[07:48] <vlad> IntuitiveNipple:  hibernation?
[07:48] <IntuitiveNipple> vlad: There is some useful answers on this page: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php#requirements
[07:49] <bangalibabu>  i'm trying to use my motorola L7 mobile as a modem on ubuntu but ubuntu couldn't detect it as a modem, what do i do? i tried wvdialconf, but it failed came up with the message "...scanned serial ports, .......didn't detect any modem.........", but my phone is connected to usb port, please help me
[07:49] <nsadmin> bangalibabu: you said that
[07:49] <vlad> thanks IntuitiveNipple i am gona take a look now ...
[07:49] <scientes> nsadmin, well it did it automatically whenever you entered a command that didnt exist
[07:49] <nsadmin> anything you have learned since you last said that?
[07:49] <vlad> nsadmin:  thanks ... Brb
[07:49] <IntuitiveNipple> vlad: look out for the "Any gotcha?" section
[07:49] <bangalibabu> yes, didn't get the solution
[07:50] <homeskill> Cotowar if you want to rename all your foo.wmv.mp3 files to just foo.mp3, 'sudo apt-get install mmv' and type something like: mmv '*\.wmv*' '#1#2'
[07:50] <vlad> Ok IntuitiveNipple
[07:50] <vlad> thank u
[07:50] <nsadmin> bangalibabu: probably you will have to build a solution
[07:50] <bangalibabu> how?
[07:51] <mattwj2002> bangalibabu have you tried google?
[07:51] <nsadmin> no idea since I don't have the hardware you have
[07:51] <cishpix> how can I make a backup for data in server
[07:52] <bangalibabu> yes, from that i found a solution having learned about wvdialconf
[07:52] <bangalibabu> but didn't work
[07:52] <nsadmin> why didn't it work? how could you tell it didn't work?
[07:53] <bangalibabu> because, ubuntu didn't detect my phone as a modem
[07:53] <nsadmin> maybe it would detect it as a network device instead
[07:53] <scientes> nsadmin, its called command-not-found
[07:54] <bobbie4_> ubuntu
[07:54] <pan_> how do i determine subnet mask for IP 155.61.9.188?
[07:54] <bangalibabu> but as nothing
[07:54] <Limitt> hey anyone able to use mldonkey on Ubuntu?
[07:54] <nsadmin> scientes: ok, so apt-file is another one
[07:54] <mattwj2002> pan_ you can't
[07:54] <Limitt> I dont know how to get the core of mldonkey to work
[07:54] <req^> pan_: it's not possible to determine subnet just from an ip
[07:55] <Limitt> I have the server installed but im not sure how to start it for mldonkey anyone know how?
[07:55] <Cotowar> how do i cd  to a directory with a space in the name?
[07:55] <mattwj2002> pan_ why do you ask?
[07:55] <scientes> nsadmin, debians implamentation of command-not-found is based on apt-file
[07:55] <Cotowar> i cant ever seem to remember
[07:55] <pan_> hw problem
[07:55] <afd3dea> Cotowar, escape the space with a backslash or use quotes.
[07:56] <scientes> nsadmin, i did research :)
[07:56] <Cotowar> right
[07:56] <pan_> it gives me options
[07:56] <IntuitiveNipple> Cotowar: cd dir\ with\ space or cd "dir with space"
[07:56] <Cotowar> thanks
[07:56] <nsadmin> scientes: very cool...
[07:56] <pan_> A.  255.0.0.0 B.  255.255.0.0  C. 255.255.255.0  D.  255.255.255.255
[07:56] <TruthTaco> how do i uninstall something if i cant find it on the add/remove
[07:56] <scientes> nsadmin, but not ubuntus, which came first
[07:56] <pan_> supposedly questions states network adminstrator has not subnetted the netowrk
[07:56] <pan_> it asks what is computers subnet mask?
[07:57] <quibbler> TruthTaco: use synaptic
[07:57] <pan_> O_O
[07:57] <nsadmin> I thought the chicken came first!
[07:57] <Cotowar> so i tried cd ./"name with space". did not work
[07:57] <TruthTaco> thanks
[07:57] <IntuitiveNipple> pan_: A sub-net mask depends on the range of addresses on the sub-net... for a 245 range it'd be a /24 (255.255.255.0)
[07:57] <mattwj2002> are you trying to get help with your homework pan_?
[07:57] <pan_> yes
[07:57] <Cotowar> also tried cd "name with space" did not work.
[07:57] <mattwj2002> lol
[07:57] <Limitt> how do you start the mldonkey server
[07:57] <mattwj2002> now now no cheating!
[07:57] <olskolirc> lol pan_
[07:57] <IntuitiveNipple> Cotowar: cd name\ with\ space
[07:57] <pan_> ^^
[07:57] <prince_jammys> Cotowar: what's the name of the directory?
[07:58] <Cotowar> lol, air supply
[07:58] <afd3dea> Cotowar, my bad then, just use backslash to escape spaces.
[07:58] <prince_jammys> there's nothing wrong with quoting. it's easier to read
[07:58] <mattwj2002> pan_ what class of IP is that IP address?
[07:58] <Cotowar> so like cd directory\ name\
[07:58] <mattwj2002> A B C D or E?
[07:58] <pan_> class B?
[07:58] <mattwj2002> yup
[07:58] <IntuitiveNipple> Maybe it's classless?
[07:59] <nsadmin> routing is classless these days
[07:59] <pan_> y is this important
[07:59] <mattwj2002> well at least that tells you what subnets it can't be
[07:59] <mattwj2002> :)
[07:59] <nsadmin> but d was not 255.255.255.255
[07:59] <mattwj2002> *subnet mask
[07:59] <illumin8> if i change my swap settings to use another partition (that is formated as swap) in /etc/fstab will i encounter problems due to the uuid?
[07:59] <Cotowar> hey, got it. oh, and to homeskill, thank you very much for the help
[08:00] <IntuitiveNipple> pan_: See this: http://www.rhyshaden.com/ipadd.htm
[08:00] <pan_> k
[08:00] <Cotowar> will mmv work recursively on sub directories?
[08:00] <pan_> thx for the help
[08:00] <IntuitiveNipple> D is multicasting
[08:00] <Chousuke> Cotowar: mv? yes.
[08:00] <LaUd> hello everyone; is there an app to equalize my audio or make effects. rock pop etc. you know internally like stuff playing off the interner.. garagebands bebo myspace etc
[08:01] <Cotowar> chousuke, its renaming my files, not moving them
[08:01] <Chousuke> Cotowar: same thing :P
[08:01] <Cotowar> mmk
[08:01] <Chousuke> azlon: are you calling it right?
[08:01] <Cotowar> thanks
[08:01] <Cotowar> lets give it a go
[08:01] <IntuitiveNipple> illumin8: no, not if you make sure fstab uses the new partition's uuid (you can get it using blkid)
[08:01] <Chousuke> mv olddir newname
[08:01] <nsadmin> LaUd look into linux audio developers
[08:01] <illumin8> IntuitiveNipple, thanks just saved me hours of headaches :D
[08:01] <Limitt> wow this is bs
[08:01] <Chousuke> mv olddir /some/other/place/newname
[08:01] <homeskill> Cotowar for that i think you need to use find with it
[08:02] <nsadmin> and perhaps you should try to get jack going
[08:02] <Limitt> i got the mldonkey core to start
[08:02] <Limitt> but I cant get the gui to connect to it
[08:02] <Limitt> it keeps connecting and disconnecting
[08:02] <Cotowar> so throw a find out front and it should be good?
[08:02] <Chousuke> Cotowar: no.
[08:02] <Chousuke> I don't see why you'd need find :/
[08:02] <Chousuke> mv will move the dir and its contents.
[08:03] <illumin8> IntuitiveNipple, if its on sda1 what would be the blkid command to retrieve the uuid?
[08:03] <Cotowar> chousuke, i ran mmv '*\.wma*' "#1#2' on my top level directory, and nothing happened
[08:03] <LaUd> nsadmin: thanks ill check jack out..
[08:03] <Limitt> screw jack
[08:03] <Chousuke> Cotowar: mmv? :/
[08:03] <homeskill> Cotowar doesnt look like you can use find with mmv
[08:03] <IntuitiveNipple> illumin8: If you're created the new swap (with mkswap /dev/sda1) you'd just do blkid /dev/sda1
[08:03] <Cotowar> hhmmm
[08:03] <homeskill> you might wanna do it manually for each dir
[08:04] <Chousuke> Cotowar: ah, seems like that is something else. :P
[08:04] <nsadmin> that would be the basic audio routing that pro audio people like (presently many do not like alsa)
[08:04] <LaUd> wow thanks nsadmin... jackeq.. just the thing
[08:04] <Cotowar> i suppose i could do it one folder at a time, or cut + paste all files to one folder
[08:04] <Limitt> jack is gay
[08:04] <Flannel> Limitt: Please don't use that term pejoratively.
[08:04] <Limitt> My Donkey does not want to work
[08:04] <nsadmin> Limitt: so assume jack is calling you gay too... how does that hit you?
[08:04] <Cotowar> that is going to take quite a bit of time though. i know there is a way to do this. I did it a couple weeks ago, but then transcoded my junk
[08:04] <homeskill> cotowar or right a script that gathers all the dirnames then cd's to each dir and mmv's
[08:05] <Cotowar> and now i have to do it again
[08:05] <Limitt> i am happy right now
[08:05] <illumin8> IntuitiveNipple, Ah it looks like using the mkswap command showed me the uuid by defualt, I hadnt used it because i had prior formated the sda1 to linux swap. Thank you again for your help.
[08:05] <Limitt> im a gay ol lad
[08:05] <Flannel> Limitt: Please stay on topic.
[08:05] <nsadmin> oic, so gay is good...
[08:05] <Cotowar> homeskill, you are on the right track with the find command. i can't remember what i was though that i used to rename in the first place
[08:05] <gfather> hello guys
[08:05] <ozzloy> how do i make a script that runs on resume/wake?
[08:05] <nsadmin> and therefore you complement jack
[08:05] <Limitt> mldonkey work with ubuntu?
[08:05] <Limitt> no
[08:05] <Flannel> nsadmin: Please stop.  This channel is for support, not random chatter.
[08:06] <rww> !edonkey | Limitt: Try one of these instead
[08:06] <gfather> what ever i want to install i get could not instal all dependencies , or uninstall , its driving me crazyyy
[08:06] <Cotowar> eh, whatever, i have to go to bed
[08:06] <RussM> Cotowar, you are looking to rename a bunch of files to the same name w/o .wma in the middle, across a bunch of directories?
[08:06] <Limitt> thanks
[08:06] <Cotowar> right
[08:06] <Limitt> for some reason my dang server does not work right
[08:06] <RussM> I'll pastebin something in a minute.
[08:06] <nsadmin> Flannel: fine, but you might want to backscroll and see if limitt has been trolling
[08:06] <Limitt> i iinstalled from synaptic
[08:06] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: Add it to /etc/pm/sleep.d/
[08:06] <Cotowar> or rather, im trying to get their old names back before the .wma was stuck in the middle
[08:07] <Limitt> im a troll im gonna get you .. bwaaa
[08:07] <Flannel> nsadmin: Regardless of what he is, its not an invitation for you to be offtopic.
[08:07] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: It sounds like you may need to 'force' apt to fix things up a bit. Try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:07] <homeskill> Cotowar it's more complicated to do things recursively. random example: find . -name '*.foo' -print0 | while read -r -d $'\0' f; do   mv -- "$f" "${f%.foo}.bar"  done
[08:07] <homeskill> cotowar dont run that command though, it's not what you want without tweaking
[08:07] <Cotowar> i know
[08:08] <Cotowar> im trying to figure out what all the parts are
[08:08] <Limitt> ehh im such a novice with this stuf
[08:08] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple ok ill try it now
[08:08] <nsadmin> you might pay attention to the greater offender.
[08:08] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: so if i put a script in there and make it executable, it will be executed when i resume from suspend and hibernate?
[08:08] <Cotowar> the -name is what its looking for IE the name of the file
[08:08] <Y-Town> anyone else having firefox crash issues with the latest updates?
[08:08] <Cotowar> the *.foo is everything ending in .foo right?
[08:08] <homeskill> Cotowar right and . means the current dir and all its subdirs
[08:08] <Cotowar> okay
[08:08] <sheldonh> aspell recognises words like participants (participant with the -s affix), but openoffice, x-chat, firefox and evolution do not. i get "Failure loading aff file /usr/share/myspell/dicts/en_ZA.aff" in .xsession-errors
[08:08] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple i get errors
[08:08] <Cotowar> what is the -print0?
[08:09] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: You may find some scripts already there to use as examples. They expect specific arguments so they can detect whether it is suspend or resume, and do the appropriate disable/enable actions as required
[08:09] <kibibyte> hi
[08:09] <kibibyte> i have problem
[08:09] <homeskill> -print0 means it prints the filenames in a way that helps with filenames with spaces and nullbytes
[08:09] <Limitt> i swry .. seriously though im about to pass out here its so late trying to figure this out.. should i just be able to install the server and kmldonkey and it should work?
[08:09] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: i did find a script in there!  00CPU looks helpful.  thank you!
[08:09] <Limitt> it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting over and over
[08:09] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: Can you copy the output you're seeing to a pastebin?
[08:09] <Cotowar> and what are the options there with read?
[08:09] <Flannel> !repeat | Limitt
[08:09] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple yes
[08:09] <mythmystic> !patience
[08:09] <Y-Town> anyone else having firefox crash issues with the latest updates?  seems like it has to do with adobe flash videos.... anyone else?
[08:09] <Cotowar> is it -r for rename, and -d for something...
[08:09] <quibbler> !ask | kibibyte
[08:10] <kibibyte> i can ping local address 192.168.0.54 but when i run
[08:10] <Limitt> !trout
[08:10] <kibibyte> traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 192.168.0.52 @ nxge0:2
[08:10] <kibibyte> traceroute to 192.168.0.54 (192.168.0.54), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
[08:10] <kibibyte>  1  * * *
[08:10] <FloodBot2> kibibyte: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <Limitt> dont be dumb mr bot you do in fact know what a trout is
[08:10] <kibibyte> and it goes on n on
[08:10] <kibibyte> :/
[08:10] <homeskill> Cotowar http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/020  i gotta sleep. good luck
[08:10] <mythmystic> just join.. wats d topic here 2day?
[08:11] <Cotowar> thanks
[08:11] <kibibyte> help
[08:11] <kibibyte> why tracert take so long?
[08:11] <rww> !topic | mythmystic
[08:11] <Flannel> mythmystic: Ubuntu support
[08:14] <sheldonh> can i make gnome use aspell instead of whatever it's using now? the aspell utility gets "participants" right
[08:15] <adred> hi..how to do setuid? I have to OSes installed. From Ubuntu, I changed the permissions of my other OS''s boot partition. When I boot to that OS, I don't have root privileges anymore. And when I sudo xxxxx update, I got prompted with 'setuid' thing. How do I solve this?
[08:16] <kurt> hi, i want to use the jaunty-kernel with my intrepid (my wireless lan regularly crashes my system). what do i have to do?
[08:16] <Gnea> kurt: you'd have to use jaunty to use the jaunty kernel
[08:17] <kurt> isn't there a backport?
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: You can download the kernel packages separately and install them using dpkg -i
[08:17] <Gnea> if there is, it'd be here...
[08:17] <Gnea> !backport
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: You'd also need to add entries to the GRUB menu of course
[08:17] <blufade> need help with setting up tor + privoxy
[08:17] <IntuitiveNipple> Kernel's aren't back-ported
[08:18] <Gnea> blufade: tried #tor?
[08:18] <blufade> u mean tor channel ?
[08:18] <Gnea> yes
[08:19] <blufade> ok, thank you
[08:19] <kurt> is there another way to stop my intrepid from crashing when wireless is activated?
[08:19] <Gnea> adred: http://www.newlinuxuser.com/explain-what-is-setuid-and-setgid/
[08:20] <kurt> i have a thinkpad t60 with an intel wireless card
[08:20] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: usually the first thing to do is gather logs and other information about the problem and creating a bug-report on launchpad.net
[08:20] <Gnea> !laptop
[08:21] <mhiku> Failed to save enabled features : The plugin Analytics Tracking cannot be used : Apache's mod_perl version 2 must be installed
[08:22] <mhiku> how can i install Apache's mod_perl version 2
[08:22] <kurt> it's a kernel panic, that's all i know right now
[08:22] <mhiku> how can this be fixed?
[08:23] <Gnea> mhiku: i would start by looking for the correct package:  apt-cache search apache mod perl
[08:23] <IntuitiveNipple> kurt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[08:24] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple http://pastebin.com/md55bda8
[08:24] <IntuitiveNipple> mhiku: maybe this will help: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libapache2-mod-perl2
[08:24] <kurt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/272015 known bug, but no fix :(
[08:25] <kurt> i heared it's fixed in jaunty
[08:25] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: Nice bug-catch!! :)
[08:26] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple :)
[08:26] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple i want to destroy that bug
[08:26] <gfather> :S
[08:26] <G-Blunted> GDM (thats the login right?) is giving me errors when i login to x....is there a log somewhere this error would be in?
[08:27] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do it. I think we should try purging that package
[08:27] <Gnea> G-Blunted: somewhere in /var/log/gdm/
[08:27] <jimcooncat> G-Blunted: you might want to run dmesg as well
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: Try this please: sudo dpkg --purge gij-4.2
[08:28] <IntuitiveNipple> gfather: If that works, retry the sudo apt-get -f install
[08:29] <gfather> IntuitiveNipple errors
[08:29] <gfather> :)
[08:29] <gfather> :(
[08:29] <lianimator> how can grep be used to search in multiple files?
[08:30] <mhiku> ive installed apt-get install libapache2-mod-perl2 but still no mod perl version 2
[08:31] <HDready> good morning folks :) I want to sort my mp3s so that i have the following path: artist/artist-album-year/trackno-artist-title; which program is good for this? and also i want to edit the mp3 tags so that they call trackno-artist-title like the one in the path view; is there a program which can lookup my mp3s in some common databases?
[08:31] <jimcooncat> lianimator: probably "cat file1 file2 file3 | grep what"
[08:32] <IntuitiveNipple> lianimator: grep -rn 'pattern' *
[08:32] <ShackTiDe> Is there a way that I can restore the default permissions in /etc and the subfolders :(
[08:32] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how can i create my account on a ftp server. When i entred ftp address in mozilla, it quits..????????????
[08:32] <IntuitiveNipple> lianimator: "-r" recurses into sub-dirs too - I use that for searching source-code trees quickly
[08:33] <ShackTiDe> Can somebody tell me if there is a script that can restore the default file permissions? I am really sc....ed
[08:33] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: try using "anonymous" as the username, and an email address as the password
[08:35] <lianimator> IntuitiveNipple: isn't n for line number? I don't see the line number
[08:35] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: it worked!
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> lianimator: Yes, it'll usually report filename:lineno:
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: Well done :)
[08:36] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: do you know how to put the screen to full brightness?
[08:36] <ozzloy> IntuitiveNipple: yeah, scrolling works on the mouse when i resume from hibernate and suspend now!
[08:36] <IntuitiveNipple> ozzloy: I think you can use the dpms utilities but not sure quite how without researching it
[08:36] <ozzloy> k
[08:36] <ozzloy> thank
[08:36] <ozzloy> s
[08:37] <lianimator> IntuitiveNipple: oh, it's there, just didn't see
[08:37] <lianimator> jimcooncat: do I need to do cat first? seems redundant
[08:37] <HDready> good morning folks :) I want to sort my mp3s so that i have the following path: artist/artist-album-year/trackno-artist-title; which program is good for this? and also i want to edit the mp3 tags so that they call trackno-artist-title like the one in the path view; is there a program which can lookup my mp3s in some common databases? maybe EasyTag oder exfalso?
[08:37] <jeeves> how do I recover my evoulition e-mail?
[08:38] <jeeves> how do I recover my evoulition e-mail?
[08:39] <jimcooncat> lianimator: maybe. my command line skills just get me through the day.
[08:40] <jeeves> anyone on this e-mail issue?
[08:42] <jeeves> anyone?
[08:42] <jimcooncat> hey jeeves, you need to explain the problem. The mail itself, or the evolution program? Where is the mail stored?
[08:43] <jeeves> jimcooncat, I had "backed up" my e-mail with the e-mail program, then I reinstalled the OS, and when I tried to recover, it's telling me that it's not a valid backup
[08:44] <rww> HDready: I used picard for that a while ago, I think.
[08:44] <rww> !info picard | HDready
[08:45] <jimcooncat> jeeves: so it's in a .tar.gz file somewhere?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[08:46] <telemachus> hi, I've made changes to crontab by using sudo crontab -e. But the cron doesn't seem to run. How can I see the log of what cron does?
[08:46] <bushwakko> hey, I have a big problem with ubuntu-server, I try to install gnome, I get an error because it cannot find gnome-keyring-manager, this package just isn't there, I saw a lot of old an unnaswered posts about this while googling
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: setup loggin for cron and read it periodically
[08:46] <bushwakko> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820999
[08:46] <Flannel> bushwakko: install ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-desktop
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> bushwakko: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <bushwakko> ah, ok
[08:47] <bushwakko> this seems to work
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> bushwakko: running an x server on a server system isnt a great idea
[08:47] <bushwakko> ActionParsnip: Need it for remote X, which is a requirement
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> bushwakko: install x11 libs then, yo udont need the full whack
[08:47] <telemachus> action: right, and how do I setup logging for cron? put a pipe '>' after the cron line?
[08:48] <d-b> anyone got a ubuntu 8.04.2 server -> are any packages / kernel packages being held / not upgraded ?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: its not something ive delved into. I'd check the config page/man page for how to set up logging
[08:48] <d-b> and how should i be checking why it was held back ?
[08:48] <jeeves> jimcooncat, yes, I have it on my memory stick
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: tab complete my name too ;)
[08:49] <HDready> good morning folks :) I want to sort my mp3s so that i have the following path: artist/artist-album-year/trackno-artist-title; which program is good for this? and also i want to edit the mp3 tags so that they call trackno-artist-title like the one in the path view; is there a program which can lookup my mp3s in some common databases? maybe EasyTag oder exfalso?
[08:49] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: not able to login man
[08:49] <HDready> rww: thanks
[08:49] <d-b> HDready: amarok.
[08:49] <jimcooncat> jeeves: try to copy the .tar.gz file to your /home then restore through evolution
[08:49] <telemachus> ActionParsnip, sorry about that. When I first learned to IRC it was with mirc about 15 years ago.
[08:50] <jeeves> jimcooncat, does it have to be in the /home/<%user%> dir?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> HDready: mp3rename may be able to move files to folders too, not sure
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: tab complete worksin mirc too
[08:51] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: I misunderstood. you want to create an account on the ftp server -- I thought you wanted to ftp into ftp.mozilla.org; sorry
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> HDready: theres id3tool which can be used to edit tags at command line
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> HDready: or easytag if you want a gui tool
[08:51] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: yes
[08:52] <jimcooncat> jeeves: yes, that's what I meant. guess I need more coffee
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> HDready: if you configure your cd ripper better, it will automatically rip in the desired format
[08:52] <telemachus> ActionParsnip, did it? I never knew. When I first used IRC to chat with people about videogames prior to the launch of the N64, the convention was just to abrieviate the name as a courtesy. xchat is the first time I've seen colour highlighting on directed speech.
[08:52] <jeeves> jimcooncat, lol, why would they do that?  this is like 4 beers into the night trying to figure this one out
[08:52] <Gnea> telemachus: it's been many years since the N64 debuted and fell into obscurity :)
[08:53] <HDready> ActionParsnip: but i ahve already mp3s from my old windows os ;) and they are not sorted very well so i want to sort etc.. no chance to rip them tough
[08:53] <jimcooncat> jeeves: I'm thinking it's a permission thing, it's just a guess though
[08:53] <adrenalyn> hello
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> telemachus: yeah its very common, irc was widespread in unix which also uses tab completion for filenames linke linux so its a natural approach (thats how I see it)
[08:53] <jeeves> jimcooncat, ok, once I move it, I'll check
[08:53] <telemachus> Gnea, true, and it's been many years since I've used IRC
[08:53] <adrenalyn> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> HDready: then create some folders and move them around a bit
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> !ask | adrenalyn
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> !caps | adrenalyn
[08:54] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: you'll have to create your account through the ftp program's config files
[08:54] <adrenalyn> Ok, lol
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: N64 is awesome :D
[08:54] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: can u tell me the commands?
[08:55] <Gnea> telemachus: in that case, you may want to puruse our guidelines, they will help you better associate with people and shorten your learning curve :)
[08:55] <adrenalyn> Ive tried to download the media package thru Termnal, and it installs but then I come to a Java agreement window. I scroll to the bottom it only says "<ok>" what do i do?
[08:55] <HDready> ActionParsnip: but this is much work... i want an easier way^^
[08:55] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: I can try to look it up for you. What are you using to serve your ftp? apache2?
[08:55] <Gnea> !guidelines
[08:55] <telemachus> Gnea, that's alright. ActionParsnip just told me about the tab completion on nicks so I'm pretty good now.
[08:56] <Gnea> telemachus: cool
[08:56] <milligan_> I have a compact card reader in my comp.. Bus 007 Device 003: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp. Hi-Speed 21-in-1 Flash Card Reader/Writer (Internal/External). However, when I plug a CF into it, it doesn't seem to be found. Anyone experienced that, and know how to fix it? Running 8.10
[08:56] <adrenalyn> can anyone answer my question?
[08:56] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: i want to create an account at ftp.cablenet.com.pe
[08:56] <milligan_> adrenalyn, press enter?
[08:56] <Gnea> !anyone | adrenalyn
[08:56] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: and i m using CLI in ubuntu
[08:56] <adrenalyn> no that didnt work
[08:57] <jeeves> jimcooncat, thanks again mate, I owe ya one!
[08:57] <Gnea> adrenalyn: have no idea what you're talking about.
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> !info torrentflux
[08:58] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: i have installed ncftp client now
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> uber
[08:58] <adrenalyn> I download the media package sudo apt-get restricted-ubuntu-extras and and it installed fine, then i got to a Java Agreement window within the Terminal
[08:58] <milligan_> adrenalyn, did you press tab so that the <OK> is highlighted ?
[08:58] <adrenalyn> Thanks Milligan
[08:59] <adrenalyn> im a noob didnt kno how to do that ..embarrased
[08:59] <milligan_> adrenalyn, everyone needs to start somewhere :)
[08:59] <SunnyDP> adrenalyn: even the most adept linux users are noobs
[08:59] <adrenalyn> thanks
[08:59] <SunnyDP> noobs at other subjects , like biology, chemistry, etc...
[08:59] <SunnyDP> cant be l33t at everything :F
[09:00] <adrenalyn> thanks =P
[09:00] <gb__> hi guys
[09:00] <jimcooncat> indian_munnda: I can see the login, but I can't log in myself. I was hoping there would be a README file in there. No web access I can find, either. You'd probably have to contact their admin.
[09:00] <gb__> is ubuntu 7.10 still supported
[09:00] <quibbler> gb__: no
[09:00] <gb__> i had issues with 6.10
[09:00] <SunnyDP> doubt it
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: to truely pwn, you must pwn at all things
[09:00] <gb__> oh dang ;(
[09:00] <indian_munnda> jimcooncat: ok dude thnx
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> !gutsy
[09:00] <SunnyDP> Action: exactly
[09:01] <Flannel> gb__: Yes.  18 months.  But only for a few more (until April)
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: www.puepwnage.com
[09:01] <gb__> ok so better option is getting 8
[09:01] <gb__> mine 8 cd got cracked, will have to redownload it
[09:01] <gb__> oh well
[09:01] <Flannel> gb__: 8.04 is a good choice, yes.
[09:02] <gb__> thanks Flannel  big time
[09:02] <packetloss> i attached an ATA drive in my ubuntu box, but ubuntu doesn't recognise it =
[09:02] <packetloss> ?
[09:02] <SunnyDP> weird
[09:03] <SunnyDP> rescan devices
[09:03] <packetloss> how do you do that
[09:03] <adrenalyn> so how can you "paint fire" effect in compiz?
[09:03] <gb__> take care i'm off adios
[09:03] <adrenalyn> later
[09:04] <ziroday> !ccsm | adrenalyn
[09:04] <SuperMike> What would be the eqivlent to "acpi-workarounds" in Wubi for Ubuntu's oringal install ?
[09:04] <SunnyDP> start by typing: dmesg
[09:04] <SuperMike> acpi=off ?
[09:04] <ziroday> packetloss: does it appear in sudo fdisk -l ?
[09:05] <adrenalyn> ziroday, ive installed that im at the configurations part in System>Preferences>Compiz Config
[09:05] <saywatmang`> when I run compiz I get 'Root visual is not a GL visual', but xdpyinfo shows GLX in the extensions
[09:05] <adrenalyn> there an effects option "Paint fire on you desktop", i checked it, now how to i actually do it?
[09:05] <Favorit> saywatmang`: do you have DRI enabled?
[09:06] <remoteCTRL> can anyone tell me the differences between mediabuntu and studiobuntu?
[09:06] <saywatmang`> hrm, dunno what that is
[09:06] <ziroday> adrenalyn: looks at the (key) bindings
[09:06] <quibbler> adrenalyn: shift-alt mouse 1
[09:06] <ari_stress> hi, is 57 degree celsius normal on the CPU?
[09:06] <Favorit> saywatmang`: if you do grep DRI /var/log/Xorg.0.log, do you see something like: (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0
[09:06] <SiDi> ari_stress, no
[09:07] <Favorit> ari_stress: for which CPU
[09:07] <ari_stress> Favorit: my notebook
[09:07] <SiDi> ari_stress, unless it's a pentium 4.. xD
[09:07] <adrenalyn> I figured it out, now i wonder how to make it go away P
[09:07] <adrenalyn> =P
[09:07] <saywatmang`> Favorit, (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[09:07] <Favorit> saywatmang`: that's tne only entry?
[09:07] <saywatmang`> yea
[09:07] <packetloss> SunnyDP it does not appear in fdisk -l
[09:07] <Favorit> saywatmang`: then there's something wrong with the acceleration initialization
[09:08] <saywatmang`> this used to work on my laptop in older versions btw
[09:08] <quibbler> adrenalyn: shift-Suoer-c
[09:08] <saywatmang`> i think it stopped when i upgraded to intrepid
[09:08] <quibbler> *Super
[09:08] <adrenalyn> what is super?
[09:08] <Favorit> saywatmang`: do you have Option          "DRI"   "true" in your "Device" section in xorg.conf?
[09:08] <quibbler> adrenalyn: windows key
[09:08] <SiDi> ari_stress, how do you know your cpu's heat ? (and btw if your pc is a notebook but doesnt seem "hot" then the sensor is probably crappy)
[09:08] <saywatmang`> Favorit, no DRI in my xorg.conf
[09:08] <saywatmang`> should I add it ?
[09:08] <adrenalyn> quibbler: Thank You
[09:09] <Favorit> saywatmang`: you could start with trying to add that, yes
[09:09] <saywatmang`> k thx
[09:09] <saywatmang`> brb
[09:09] <ari_stress> SiDi: i use sensors-applet, got it from ubuntu forum
[09:09] <quibbler> adrenalyn: ;-)
[09:09] <SiDi> ari_stress, ok thanks
[09:09] <Favorit> ari_stress: sensors have to be configured most of the time to show real temps
[09:09] <Favorit> ari_stress: default detection can always be wrong and show offsets that aren't true
[09:09] <rww> !lm-sensors | SiDi
[09:09] <SiDi> rww, thanks
[09:10] <Favorit> although, depending on what CPU your notebook has, 57 degrees can be normal
[09:10] <ari_stress> Favorit: oh how do i know the correct offset? currently it's zero
[09:10] <Favorit> ari_stress: look at the type of your motherboard, read that link that ubottu just pasted for SiDi.
[09:10] <adrenalyn> how do u guys know all these commands?
[09:10] <Favorit> ari_stress: check the lmsensors website to see which module suits your motherboard, there will be the config values.
[09:11] <Favorit> adrenalyn: which commands? :)
[09:11] <adrenalyn> !caps
[09:11] <ari_stress> adrenalyn: Favorit is the bot
[09:11] <saywatmang> Favorit, (WW) NVIDIA(0): Option "DRI" is not used
[09:11] <rww> !list | adrenalyn
[09:11] <adrenalyn> !thanks
[09:12] <Favorit> saywatmang: hmm, interesting
[09:12] <sk8ball> sup motherfuckers
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | sk8ball
[09:12] <Favorit> saywatmang: are you using the latest nvidia drivers?
[09:13] <sk8ball> ohmy!
[09:13] <sk8ball> bears!
[09:13] <packetloss> SunnyDP
[09:13] <packetloss> the drive does not apppear in fdisk -l
[09:13] <Favorit> ari_stress: I'm the bot?
[09:13] <sk8ball> get a clue, there is no "family"elementtothischannel
[09:13] <saywatmang> Favorit, yea using the latest hardware drivers
[09:13] <sk8ball> or to irc in general
[09:13] <Viper111> hello there i have a squid proxy with dansgaurdian and i made an acl thats permits ports 25 110 443 but mail cannt be retreived from thundbird but should i do ??
[09:13] <sk8ball> damn
[09:14] <ari_stress> Favorit: thanks for the link, i think i miss the sudo sensors-detect step
[09:14] <Favorit> saywatmang: hmmz, nvidia sucked lately with their hw support undel linux.. so basically the problem is that compiz complains that there's no GL available?
[09:15] <saywatmang> yea
[09:15] <Favorit> saywatmang: and do you have "glx" module loaded in xorg.conf?
[09:15] <arooni> i back up /home/ nightly to a different drive;  should i also be backing up /etc/
[09:15] <saywatmang> yea I have Load "glx"
[09:15] <Favorit> saywatmang: actually, you can just mail me your xorg.conf, or just paste it into privmsg, i'll have a look :) easier than asking for each and every line
[09:16] <Favorit> saywatmang: or use some pastebin :)
[09:16] <Viper111> hello there i have a squid proxy with dansgaurdian and i made an acl thats permits ports 25 110 443 but mail cannt be retreived from thundbird but should i do ??
[09:16] <Baatti> Greetings, I'm strongly considering putting Windows Vista back on my computer :( but only in a very small partition. The reason being that I can't for the life of me get FFXI to run under Ubuntu. My question is, what's the best way for me to set up my partitions to have Ubuntu be my main OS?
[09:17] <rww> !pastebin | Favorit: or they could use this...
[09:18] <lvlefisto> Viper111: i had a problem similar to yours. Then i realized squid is not meant to be used for anything else than HTTP
[09:18] <milligan_> What's the keycombo to change desktop ?
[09:18] <Favorit> rww: nods, although I've met people who are quite sensitive about pasting their configs for some reasin
[09:18] <remoteCTRL> anyone ever tried out medibuntu or studiobuntu?
[09:18] <Baatti> CTRL + ALT + arrow
[09:18] <milligan_> cheers.
[09:18] <Viper111> lvlefisto so wt should i do then ?? to enable access 110 25
[09:18] <jedfox> I have problem with sound. My Sound Blaster Live doesn't play.
[09:19] <lvlefisto> Viper111: configure Thunderbird to not use the proxy
[09:19] <bz0b> anyone here use iwlagn driver? iwl5100 card in specific, im trying to inject packets but not working
[09:20] <Baatti> ok, let me rephrase my question....
[09:20] <Favorit> saywatmang: any effect?
[09:20] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: yeah i do, but what do you mean by inject packets?
[09:20] <arooni> i back up /home/ nightly to a different drive;  should i also be backing up /etc/ ?
[09:20] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, like aircrack-ng suite to put it into monitor mode and inject packets
[09:21] <remoteCTRL> arooni surely not a bad thing to do but nightly won't be necessary...
[09:21] <bz0b> it goes into monitor mode no prob, but i can't get an auth. packet or inject packets
[09:21] <Baatti> I have to restore out of box if I put Vista back on... so that'll format the harddrive and take up the whole thing...I want to run Ubuntu as my main OS, so, is it safe for me to install ubuntu from boot up, and choose to partition the hard drive to allow 85% or so to Ubuntu? That is to say, after Windows has been installed on the whole thing
[09:21] <jedfox> I don't have sound in Ubuntu. Card: Sound Blaster 5.1 Live. I tried to use solves from forums, but it doesn't work.
[09:21] <jimcooncat> arooni: yes, it's a good idea for the files that you customize
[09:21] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: sorry dude but i have no clue what you're talking about:D
[09:21] <arooni> remoteCTRL, how often?
[09:21] <milligan_> I have a flash drive reader. When I plug a CF into it, it isn't detected. Any ideas why ?
[09:21] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, oh np, its for cracking wep
[09:21] <arooni> how can i find out how big /etc/ is ?
[09:22] <saywatmang> arooni, du -ks /etc
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: is it shown in: sudo fdisk -l
[09:22] <milligan_> arooni, du -hs /etc
[09:22] <jimcooncat> arooni: du or baobab
[09:22] <jedfox> I don't have sound in Ubuntu. Card: Sound Blaster 5.1 Live. I tried to use solves from forums, but it doesn't work.
[09:22] <remoteCTRL> arooni well basically as often as you change something on some systems configurations, that won't be that often, right?  (gnome preferences and so on are in the /h9ome directory...)
[09:22] <milligan_> ActionParsnip, no .. it isn't detected, so fdisk won't show it.
[09:23] <arooni> does 22M seem right for /etc/
[09:23] <arooni> i thought it was MUCH BIGGER
[09:23] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: yeah i know that's why i "have no clue" we are a support channel, not a hacker channel;)
[09:23] <milligan_> arooni, mine is 17MB
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: ok, then unplug it, wait a little, plug it back in, wait a liitle, then run: dmesg | tail
[09:23] <arooni> where does ubuntu install software to?
[09:23] <arooni> /var/
[09:23] <arooni> ?
[09:24] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, lol i know but i need support to patch my driver. ;-)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> arooni: all over the place, apps use lots of shared libs so there is no Program Files folder like in windows
[09:24] <crdlb> arooni: packages install all over the place, but mostly /usr
[09:24] <remoteCTRL> arooni depends on what it is, also /usr/local /bin /usr/bin and so further..
[09:24] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, no biggie i just do it for the proof of concept, i am a net. admin for a pretty large wan, and i just like learning this stuff for on the side
[09:24] <jedfox> I don't have sound in Ubuntu. Card: Sound Blaster 5.1 Live. I tried to use solves from forums, but it doesn't work.
[09:24] <Favorit> btw, anyone knows of some good network-based backup that would just simply allow to back up files automagically from one machien to another with some kind of schedules and support of incremental backups?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> arooni: you can see where a single deb will install by extracting it but the app will have dependancies which will be in other places
[09:25] <milligan_> ActionParsnip, [612949.404021] usb 7-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 [612949.812013] usb 7-1: device not accepting address 6, error -71 <- Could that be the CF ?
[09:25] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: surely not a stoopid thing to do, yet still i can't help you on that cos i never had to "patch" that driver...;)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> arooni: you could download its dependancies to see where they go too but its a fairly pointless exercise
[09:25] <SunnyDP> :'(
[09:25] <banttu> I want to get the size of a partition using fdisk -s and pipe it to something so I can get it in human readable format
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> milligan_: if thats theoutput of dmesg | tail then yes, you now have some ammo
[09:26] <banttu> Anybody with ideas?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> !sound | jedfox
[09:26] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, np was just curious if anyone here had tried it since ubuntu is such a large part of the linux community and would think someone here would have my same wifi card and maybe tried to get into there own wireless network... :-)
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> banttu: fdisk -s > ~/output.txt    maybe
[09:26] <Favorit> banttu: define human readable
[09:27] <Favorit> banttu: fdisk -s gives pretty much human readable format, numbers :)
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: well i do get into my network but without haxx0ring it:D
[09:27] <banttu> Megabytes, Gigs Kilobyte
[09:27] <bz0b> remoteCTRL, haha noob, jk
[09:27] <remoteCTRL> bz0b: hahahaha aye
[09:28] <banttu> Favorit lol, I'd read something about using bc but I can't seem to get it working, its a tricky affair piping to bc
[09:28] <Favorit> banttu: df -h / | tail -1 | awk '{print $2}' <- would this do? :)
[09:29] <Favorit> banttu: replace / with other partition name for other partitions :)
[09:29] <banttu> Favorit, I haven't mounted it,
[09:29] <Favorit> banttu: ah, i see
[09:30] <banttu> I could mount it but that would mean using fdisk would be obfuscated
[09:30] <lianimator> how could you grep a pattern with a '-'?
[09:31] <Favorit> banttu: yeah
[09:31] <Dreamglider_> i wish to costumise/translate the gnome clock for ubuntu, how would i go about doing this ? i take it i need the source right ?
[09:32] <Dreamglider_> I have no knowledge of source editing, but i think it's time :) could anyone point me in the right direction ?
[09:32] <scizzo-> Dreamglider_: most of the time this is translated from the gnome project
[09:33] <scizzo-> Dreamglider_: I would suggest you go to the gnome website to check for the translation team or on ubuntu website for the same....
[09:33] <scizzo-> Dreamglider_: all information you need to get started with contribution should be available on those sites
[09:33] <banttu> Ok. Lemmi ask it different
[09:33] <Dreamglider_> allright thanks :)
[09:33] <crdlb> Dreamglider_: all you want to do is translate it?
[09:34] <banttu> Say you have a command that returns a number
[09:34] <Favorit> banttu: this would be another option: parted -s /dev/sda1 print | grep " 1" | awk '{print $3}'
[09:34] <Dreamglider_> crdlb: as a first step yes
[09:35] <Favorit> banttu or even parted -s /dev/sda1 print | grep "^Disk" | awk '{print $2}'
[09:35] <Favorit> banttu: $3 that is
[09:35] <crdlb> Dreamglider_: localisation can be done without touching the source code, but "customisation" outside of the settings offered cannot be
[09:36] <Ebdomos> I sudo'd nautilus, and deleted a file, however the item didnt appear in the trash folder, and when I click on the trash, it says it cannot display the contents. This file was big, at 8.3 gigs. How can I delete it permanently?
[09:36] <angelo1298181828> * StArGaTe|DvD|001 :No such nick/channel
[09:36] <ja2> Hi, any suggestions? The following packages have unmet dependencies:  apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2.2-common (= 2.2.8-1) but 2.2.8-1ubuntu0.3 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[09:36] <Favorit> banttu and to operate your units you can do it like this: parted -s /dev/sda1 unit MB print | grep "^Disk" | awk '{print $3}'
[09:37] <chu_> !acpi
[09:37] <Favorit> Ebdomos: probably the file in the trash is now owned by root
[09:37] <Ebdomos> Favorit: yah, but I cant get to the root trash
[09:38] <Ebdomos> Favorit: and I dont know where to look
[09:38] <chu_> is it possible to "teach" the bot?
[09:38] <megaJuice> has anyone else had problems installing ATI drivers?
[09:38] <BulBUlRed> anyone have any good ideas/experience with "document management" tools in Ubuntu? (moreover in opensource community i mean)
[09:38] <angelo1298181828>  irc.abbaddon.net
[09:38] <BulBUlRed> i am looking at Knowledgetree atm
[09:39] <BulBUlRed> very nice tool
[09:39] <broken> yes mega
[09:39] <broken> they're a pain
[09:39] <Favorit> Ebdomos: look in ~/.local/share/Trash
[09:39] <megaJuice> were you successful in your attempts?
[09:39] <broken> there's a petition somewhere to AMD
[09:39] <Ebdomos> ok, thanks
[09:39] <broken> after a while
[09:39] <megaJuice> broken: hmm.. I'll have to add my name to it.
[09:39] <broken> get catalyst and xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:40] <broken> those should help for now
[09:40] <broken> don't have to
[09:40] <angelo1298181828>  	/msg [EWG]-OG\DETOX XDCC SEND #6
[09:40] <megaJuice> broken: I've tried everything and nothing worked, so i gave up
[09:40] <broken> it's better that we act as a community and show them we're part of their user base
[09:40] <broken> hmm
[09:40] <broken> don't give up
[09:40] <megaJuice> and went back to the generic *rolls eyes* card my machine came with
[09:40] <broken> there's always a chance they'll release drivers
[09:41] <megaJuice> but now i'm having more problems
[09:41] <Ebdomos> Favorit: wow, I learned something incredibly valuable, thanks bro
[09:41] <broken> sorry to here that
[09:41] <broken> what are the card models
[09:41] <Favorit> Ebdomos: no probs :)
[09:41] <kaartz> i need to run this command at the startup 'xrandr -s 0' how to that? pls help me
[09:41] <blufad1> any other alternative to firefox on ubuntu ?
[09:41] <megaJuice> the ATI i'm trying to install is an ATI Radeon 9550
[09:41] <rww> !startup
[09:42] <crdlb> kaartz: why? the screen resolution panel can do the same thing
[09:42] <megaJuice> and i have no idea what the generic card is.
[09:42] <kaartz> no, i'm not able to see that resolution
[09:42] <kaartz> that is why i', using xrandr
[09:42] <lianimator> can ls list the files with their fullpath?
[09:42] <bachus> hi
[09:42] <bachus> I've a problem...
[09:43] <rsa_md5> i installed mod_mono, but if  I try to open .asp files, I see the code and the asp file is not parsed...what could be wrong?
[09:43] <ramvi> I've installed compiled and installed a wifi driver which works if I modprobe it. It isn't by default though - how do I fix that?
[09:43] <crdlb> kaartz: :/ gnome-display-properties gets its list from xrandr
[09:43] <baber> how can change default runlevels?
[09:43] <bachus> how to use bluetooth in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[09:43] <blufad1> is there any alternative to firefox browser ?
[09:43] <bachus> rfcomm connect rfcomm0 AA:00:00:00:30:5E
[09:43] <SunnyDP> blufad1: opera
[09:43] <bachus> Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Connection refused
[09:43] <crdlb> blufad1: epiphany? opera?
[09:43] <lianimator> blufad1: lynx
[09:43] <quibbler> blufad1: opera
[09:44] <lianimator> blufad1: jk. I vote opera
[09:44] <quibbler> !browser
[09:44] <blufad1> do they use firefox core or their own ?
[09:44] <RudeBoi> can i make a live usb of ubuntu 8.04?
[09:44] <SunnyDP> yes of course
[09:44] <SunnyDP> Rudeboi: Unetbootin
[09:44] <crdlb> blufad1: opera has its own, epiphany uses gecko from firefox
[09:44] <megaJuice> none of my 3D games will start now that I changed switched xorg.conf with xorg.conf.failsafe    Is there anything I can do?
[09:44] <RudeBoi> i have no idea what unetbootin is
[09:44] <megaJuice> switched not changed switched
[09:45] <lianimator> megaJuice: tell me you backed up..
[09:45] <blufad1> ok, with firefox i'm having trouble using yahoo mail......is the case same with opera ?
[09:45] <SunnyDP> rudeboi: go download it, install it and you will see
[09:45] <SunnyDP> easy
[09:45] <SunnyDP> PM me for assistance
[09:45] <megaJuice> lianimator: ha. yeah i wish i had remembered to do that.
[09:45] <mchelen> RudeBoi, just go to system -> admin -> create usb startup disk
[09:45] <RudeBoi> dl it from add/remove?
[09:45] <crdlb> blufad1: err, you can try it; firefox in general isn't broken with yahoo mail though ...
[09:46] <RudeBoi> i have 8.04 and it doesn't have that option
[09:46] <lianimator> megaJuice: is there anything else you did in xorg.conf? maybe edited with gedit or configured it?
[09:46] <mchelen> google unetbootin to find .deb on their webpage, it is a package for 9.04 jaunty
[09:46] <lianimator> megaJuice: there might be some back ups in there.
[09:46] <kaartz> thanks guys
[09:46] <mchelen> RudeBoi, ok then dl unetbootin or upgrade to 8.10
[09:46] <blufad1> i dont see opera listed in synaptic.....
[09:46] <RudeBoi> i'll check it out thanks
[09:47] <megaJuice> lianimator: I tried to configure it a couple times, but it never worked right. It would always leave me in low graphics mode when I would take out my ATI card I was trying to install, and switch to the generic one.
[09:48] <lennad> Hi, how to mount the Home directory in another computer to some directory in my computer? thanks
[09:48] <SunnyDP> RudeBoi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/i386/unetbootin/download
[09:48] <SunnyDP> enjoy :D
[09:48] <blufad1> coulld anybody here help me with tor ?
[09:49] <mchelen> blufad1, whats the problem?
[09:49] <RudeBoi> thanks sunnDP
[09:49] <lennad> as i want to work at home, i want to mount the home directory of the computer in my office to my home computer
[09:49] <blufad1> ﻿mchelen,i've installed tor + privoxy
[09:49] <Boohbah> lennad: an OpenVPN connection may be a better choice
[09:50] <lennad> Boohbah: yes, i have VPN
[09:50] <megaJuice> lianimator: ? any ideas?
[09:50] <blufad1> also switch proxy for firefox, but whenever i try 127.0.0.1 , i cannot browse......
[09:50] <lennad> Boohbah: but how to
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: can you ping web addresses by name and ip?
[09:51] <lennad> Boohbah: even i have VPN, i still need to map the home directory to my current computer, right?
[09:52] <RudeBoi> if i upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 will i still have my saved files? and desktop backgroud?
[09:52] <blufad1> evrything esle except for firefox works
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: yes, the upgrade only upgrades the applications so yur home folder will remain untouched
[09:53] <RudeBoi> k thanks
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: ok, do other browsers work ok with the proxy?
[09:53] <WindowSeven> hello!
[09:53] <SunnyDP> thanks to ActionParsnips for recommending Pidgin as a IRC cleint for ubuntu :D:D:D
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: just like if you upgrade windows it doesnt delete yuor files
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: its ok
[09:54] <blufad1> let me install opera and see
[09:54] <WindowSeven> SunnyDP try with X-Chat i mean
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: its good to try a range of clients to see which you prefer
[09:54] <RudeBoi> so i need iso image of 8.10 to upgrade?
[09:54] <SunnyDP> i tried Xchat
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: no, you can upgrade via the web
[09:54] <WindowSeven> confused?
[09:54] <SunnyDP> and for now i enjoy Pidgin better
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | RudeBoi
[09:55] <SunnyDP> I am a MIRC old schooler :D
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !irc | SunnyDP
[09:55] <WindowSeven> x-chat = debian geeks
[09:55] <WindowSeven> pidgin = a copy of debian geeks
[09:55] <WindowSeven> lol
[09:55] <RudeBoi> k
[09:55] <SunnyDP> WindowsSeven :D
[09:55] <WindowSeven> ye WindowSeven is like Ubuntu
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: how is it a copy, its based on Gaim?
[09:55] <WindowSeven> or vista i think lol
[09:56] <blufad1> ﻿ActionParsnip, but how do i check if privoxy & tor are running ?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: win7 is a lot like enlightenment window manager
[09:56] <SunnyDP> blufad1: go to check your ip!!!
[09:56] <WindowSeven> ActionParsnip and Ubuntu funtionality lol
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: ps -ef | grep tor; ps -ef | grep privoxy
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: shame its a 7Gb install >:o
[09:57] <WindowSeven> ActionParsnip Ubuntu still sucks >:O
[09:57] <Viper111> hello there i have a squid proxy with dansgaurdian and i made an acl thats permits ports 25 110 443 but mail cannt be retreived from thundbird but should i do ??
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> WindowSeven: maybe to you, i think its fine. Gentoo is my main man though :D
[09:58] <blufad1> ﻿ActionParsnip,   http://pastebin.com/me0be567
[09:58] <Sucksbuntu> Gentoo is fine
[09:58] <Sucksbuntu> i like it
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> blufad1: looks like its running to me
[09:59] <gutterpunk> Hi. Can anyone tell me how to change the SSH version info from "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2" to just "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1" ?
[09:59] <blufad1> ﻿ActionParsnip, ok , i just tried and opera gives me 503 error
[09:59] <corinth> Anyone know how to set Firefox to start in fullscreen mode?
[09:59] <blufad1> same was the case with firefox too
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: you can use similar to emerge in ubuntu with apt-build
[09:59] <Sucksbuntu> i cant use ubuntu
[09:59] <Sucksbuntu> cause my computer can't run bullshit xD
[10:00] <Boohbah> Sucksbuntu: then why are you here?
[10:00] <Ebdomos> Looky what I found, are we finally going to see more sweet games being made for linux?
[10:00] <Ebdomos> http://www.celetania.com/download.php#linux
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> corinth: http://www.mouserunner.com/FF_Tips_Full_Screen.html
[10:00] <gutterpunk> cause his time is not valuable
[10:00] <Sucksbuntu> just looking a lots of "geeks"
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: then install fluxbox and remove gnome / kde
[10:01] <SunnyDP> last linux game that amazed me was GOO world
[10:01] <root> heloo
[10:01] <Aetolus> Heya, anybody about who may be able to help me with getting my nvidia graphics card drivers going? Im using a GeForce 5600 FX, tried installing the new drivers with EnvyNG, but whenever I do after restart my monitor just goes into standbye mode and I have to use the Fix Xorg option in recovery... and I'm still kinda a newb =)
[10:01] <chu_> heil root
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: frets on fire, Penumbra
[10:01] <Sucksbuntu> ActionParsnip was done a lot of time ago :)
[10:01] <RudeBoi> do you guys predict linux will take over the world one day?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: are you running intrepid?
[10:01] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnips:i am not a gamer
[10:01] <Sucksbuntu> RudeBoi nop
[10:01] <chu_> one day?
[10:01] <SunnyDP> Thanks anyways
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: good lad
[10:01] <Aetolus> Hardy
[10:02] <Pegasos989> Hello. Where do I put a .so file I want to add to Firefox? I downloaded 64 bit version of Adobe Flash, got .so file and don't know what to do next with it
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:02] <Sucksbuntu> try Crossover :B
[10:02] <RudeBoi> do you think it will become standard on pc's
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: envyng is garbage
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Pegasos989: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:02] <sheldonh> i reported my broken affix support as bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/330454
[10:02] <Sucksbuntu> RudeBoi if u dont know, linux is on standard pc's right now
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Pegasos989: cp <file.so> ~/.mozilla/plugins; killall firefox; firefox &
[10:03] <Sucksbuntu> on eeepcs i think
[10:03] <Pegasos989> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[10:03] <Aetolus> ActionParsnip: Is that the same driver that'd be installed if I went System - Administration - Hardware Drivers? Because I did try that first :)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: you can get xp on them too, its an option
[10:03] <Sucksbuntu> i have a mac :B
[10:03] <RudeBoi> i hear popular linux distros. only use tcp/ip
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Aetolus: then also install nvidia-settings then run gksudo nvidia-settings
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Sucksbuntu: unlucky
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> maybe
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> idk
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: they can use any protocol you choose
[10:04] <chu_> macs destroy
[10:04] <Dreamglider> crdlb: you know where i can find a howto on editing source (what software i nned for editing souce)
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> Macs are the future
[10:04] <chu_> they're weapons
[10:04] <oCean_> RudeBoi: Sucksbuntu Take offtopic discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> i love my mac air
[10:04] <Sucksbuntu> :D
[10:04] <corinth> Thanks ActionParsnip. :-)
[10:04] <primski> 2009/02/17 - linux-image-2.6.27-12-generic from proposed updates breaks my Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g wireless card.
[10:04] <primski> :(
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> primski: you may need to reset it up for the new kernel
[10:05] <chu_> I would have bought an iBook but this was half the price, I installed Ubuntu with awn etc and made it look mac
[10:05] <chu_> lol
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> primski: does the previous kernel work ok for you?
[10:05] <primski> ActionParsnil: yes, previous kernel works fine, running it now - how do i reset it ?
[10:05] <Aetolus> ActionParsnip: "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file and restart X server" ?
[10:06] <SunnyDP> Just letting ou guys know where i might be buying my next home: http://www.akademifantasia.org/?p=462
[10:06] <Sucksbuntu> chu_ ubuntu isn't mac .B
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> primski: if the kernel you are running is ok, why are you getting a new version?
[10:06] <Sucksbuntu> like ubuntu isnt linux
[10:06] <RudeBoi> how long does it take to upgrade to 8.10?
[10:06] <primski> ActionParsnip - its an update - i always install updates - ur telling me this is wrong ?
[10:06] <Dreamglider> abt 20 minutes
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: depends on how fast the packages will come down
[10:06] <Dreamglider> 30min perhaps
[10:06] <primski> perhaps i should just disable proposed repo - but still updates are to be installed
[10:06] <mchelen> depends on system and net connection
[10:06] <Sucksbuntu> jsut trying to looks like windows cause ppl doens't know what's linux
[10:07] <chu_> I know.
[10:07] <chu_> I didn't say it was, did I?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: on a 56k connection, hours and hours, on dual T3 connection. A few seconds
[10:07] <RudeBoi> i have dsl
[10:07] <Dreamglider> my 2x 2ghz 2gb and 4Mb connection upgraded from .04 to .10 in abt 20-30 minutes
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> RudeBoi: dsl ranges in speed
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: if its over the internet, the speed of the pc is irrelevant
[10:08] <RudeBoi> and standard pci bus type
[10:08] <chu_> RudeBoi, are you on a laptop?
[10:08] <mchelen> it shouldnt take too long, if you have a modern pc you can do stuff while it updates
[10:08] <Dexi> Hey does anyone know a good way to "record what you hear"? im using a pci sound card and for some reason the sound recorder doesnt work and i cant get audacity to record anything either
[10:08] <RudeBoi> nope desktop
[10:08] <chu_> k
[10:09] <Dreamglider> ActionParsnip: it takes some cpu power to setup all the new packages does it not ?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: you could be running a CRAY with 200 CPUs an 40Tb of RAM on a 28.8Kbps modem and it'd update slower, but te cray is several billion times faster than your system
[10:09] <mchelen> well there are two phases of upgrade, download and then install
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: once its down its all the cpu, but the vast bulk of time is usually downloading
[10:09] <Dreamglider> ok ok
[10:10] <fw1_> nick incorrect
[10:10] <Dreamglider> im not so keen on this linux thing yes
[10:10] <chu_> why not?
[10:10] <mchelen> depends if you have an older system or not, my laptop has net but slow cpu
[10:10] <chu_> It's pretty good from my angle.
[10:10] <Dreamglider> what is CRAY ?
[10:10] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnips: Never heard about CRAYS until today :D WOW
[10:11] <chu_> super computer
[10:11] <SunnyDP> CRAY = super super super PC
[10:11] <Dreamglider> lol
[10:11] <Dreamglider> i want a CRAY !
[10:11] <SunnyDP> http://www.cray.com
[10:11] <RudeBoi> so, they coming out with nano technology computers yet?
[10:11] <mchelen> i want a google cluster ;)
[10:11] <SlimeyPete> I want a sandwich
[10:11] <chu_> Have they come out with nano much yet?
[10:12] <RudeBoi> i hear they have a nano calculator
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Dreamglider: bug uber super computers with a tonne of processing power
[10:12] <mchelen> cpu fabs are on nm scale
[10:12] <chu_> There's apparantly a quantum computer in the works at my university, though I haven't seen anything.
[10:12] <quibbler> i want enough money for a Cray
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> quibbler: better get saving :)
[10:13] <SunnyDP> itLOL :D
[10:13] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnips:what range of $$$ are we speaking of?
[10:13] <quibbler> i think i'll settle for a sandwich
[10:13] <chu_> yeah, the sandwich would be better.
[10:13] <quibbler> and cheaper
[10:13] <chu_> Infinite debt is no worth infinite computation
[10:13] <RudeBoi> once nano is standard, so will robots with reasoning be
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: millions
[10:14] <oCean_> !offtopic
[10:14] <InCrypto_work> makes no sense fot a CRAY unless ur providing a service nationwide or worldwide
[10:14] <InCrypto_work> like Hosting or sumtin ;ike tht
[10:14] <RudeBoi> k, i will keep in on topic
[10:14] <SunnyDP> yup :D just checked it out , they go for millions of $$$
[10:14] <SunnyDP> and the monkey that i am , i was looking for 1 on ebay :D
[10:15] <Dreamglider> InCrypto_work: it could perhaps increase the framerate on heroes III running in ubuntu :P
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> InCrypto_work: or you want a badass foldingAtHome score
[10:15] <leanna> Hi, how to scan wireless connection?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> leanna: sudo iwlist scan
[10:15] <chu_> What about university research?
[10:15] <chu_> lol
[10:16] <SunnyDP> Digital Media 			Earth Sciences 			Energy 			Financial Services 			Government and Defense 			Higher Education 			Life Sciences 			
[10:16] <SunnyDP> this is what they are for
[10:16] <Guest15198> exit
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> chu_: or a citri server for a few thousand users
[10:16] <InCrypto_work> exactly SunnyDP they are targeted for service sectors only i guess..
[10:16] <leanna> ActionParsnip: it cannot detect my wireless card
[10:16] <SunnyDP> not for your average gamer :D
[10:17] <SunnyDP> not even for your average university :S
[10:17] <chu_> hence research university
[10:17] <SunnyDP> leanna: do you see it when you : ifconfig -a
[10:17] <SunnyDP> ?
[10:17] <InCrypto_work> SunnyDP Unless the avergae gamer is rich as the King of saudi :)
[10:17] <[ZAF]-Coral> Good  morning/afternoon/evening
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> leanna: then you will need to get drivers for it
[10:17] <SunnyDP> InCrypto_work: did you see the link i pasted before ?
[10:17] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ?
[10:18] <leanna> SunnyDP: no
[10:18] <SunnyDP> check out these houses: http://www.akademifantasia.org/?p=462
[10:18] <lvlefisto> I have now pulseaudio working for skype and realplayer except for the mic on skype. I have it using ALSA. Does anyone know how to make the mic work with pulseaudio?
[10:18] <distant_voice> I used to multi-boot, and all of a sudden GRUB doesn't come up anymore and the system boots straight into Windows? can anybody help me please?
[10:18] <SunnyDP> leanna:you do not see wlan0 ?
[10:18] <leanna> ActionParsnip: yes, i think i need a driver, now i use ifconfig -a it cannot detect the card.
[10:18] <leanna> SunnyDP: no
[10:18] <SunnyDP> oooh
[10:19] <SunnyDP> wait for ActionParsnips then
[10:19] <leanna> SunnyDP: only eth0, lo, and pan0
[10:19] <SunnyDP> ok
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> leanna: is it usb or pci?
[10:20] <lvlefisto> The problem is when i select pulseaudio in the input device it doesn't record almost any sound.
[10:20] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ? or where about I could find it...
[10:20] <gldtn> hello all... Iḿ having problems removing a bad package.. may someone help please?
[10:20] <leanna> ActionParsnip: u mean my wireless card?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> leanna: yes, is it usb or is it an internal device?
[10:21] <leanna> ActionParsnip: internal device
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: can you pastebin the command you are using as well as the error it generates
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok, run: lspci     in terminal and read the screen, one line will identify the wifi card
[10:22] <leanna> ActionParsnip: i got this line> Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[10:23] <distant_voice> someone please help. GRUB doesn't come up anymore when I boot the system and I can't get into Ubuntu anymore. I have no idea what did this... :(
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok and run lsb_release -c
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> !grub | distant_voice
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> leanna: whats it say?
[10:24] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/d49a9a14e
[10:24] <strange> hey guys is there a way to see current traffic usage on shell by users seperate so not a total amount kb/s traffic that is being done but user by user ?
[10:24] <leanna> ActionParsnip: Codename:intrepid
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok and can you run (lastly) uname -a
[10:25] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ? or where about I could find it...
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i would reinstall it over the top of itself and then uninstall, it seems some files are missing from the installation, you could use --force-all but i'd only use it as a last ditch
[10:26] <leanna> ActionParsnip: 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:26] <tangox> ...
[10:26] <distant_voice> Parsnip, I didn't install Windows, in fact, I did nothing to my config the last few times I used the computer
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> leanna: ok cool, you need madwifi + a patch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766169
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: if you run through it, the guide will get your grub sorted out as its clearly misconfigured
[10:27] <tangox> Any Chinese here?
[10:27] <[ZAF]-Coral> Ok.. Does any1 know how to set Screensaver to none ?
[10:28] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip is this something that happens once i a while without interference from the user? Or do you assume that I did something without knowing it? :S
[10:28] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, I I try to install I get http://pastebin.com/m5f22ab43
[10:28] <SunnyDP> tangox: 没有抱歉没有中文浏览
[10:29] <leanna> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: i couldnt say, maybe a user started playing and had sudo rights
[10:29] <mhangman> hi, i install ubuntu on windows
[10:29] <mhangman> can i share files between this 2 os?
[10:29] <SunnyDP> leanna: works now ?
[10:29] <[ZAF]-Coral> Does anybody here know where I can find the Screensaver config file ? or where about I could find it...
[10:29] <leanna> SunnyDP: installing
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install mfc240ccupswrapper
[10:30] <moniker127> Anyone use steam here?
[10:31] <p1oooop> hey guys
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> moniker127: i'd head into #winehq
[10:31] <pluesch0r> hi everybody. i'd like to create a deb package containing 2 ocf scripts that i wrote for heartbeat. i've read the new maintainer guide, but still don't know where to start/what tools to use. any pointers?
[10:31] <p1oooop> can anyone help me with saving live CD session data?
[10:32] <Aldus> hi, i would like to create an alias like: goto mydir that performs this command: "cd /var/www/mydir". How can I pass the parameter mydir to the alias, so that it can be part of the folder I want to access?
[10:32] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip I'm the only user, this is my computer at home. this is so frustrating
[10:32] <p1oooop> my laptop's HDD failed :(
[10:32] <SunnyDP> damn!
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: does grub actually load up?
[10:32] <fosco_> Aldus: $1
[10:32] <p1oooop> so, I'm stuck with live CD not that it isn't good
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Aldus: add the alias to ~/.bashrc
[10:33] <B|ackPanther> Is it possible to roll back after executing a couple of commands
[10:33] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, cannot find packages.. I installed these via .deb files.. I tried reinstalling them but no luck
[10:33] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip, no not at all, it boots straight into Windows
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: you could write ~/ to usb and mount that next time you boot, or install to the usb stick
[10:33] <fosco_> B|ackPanther: not an easy way, but can know what you have done by pressing up arrow
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: then the windows bootloader has overwritten grub
[10:33] <Aldus> ActionParsnip I already did it, but fosco's solution looks more like what I need
[10:33] <mick02> Aldus your alias should look like alias goto='cd /var/www' then all you need to type is goto mydir
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i'd go with some force then
[10:34] <Aldus> mick02 I need to go to cd /var/www/MYPARAMETER
[10:34] <vinkki> hi, does anyone know how to disable that "you have new email" notify of evolution email client ? (not very google friendly name for a program;)
[10:34] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip how can this happen? I booted each system a hundred times and all of a sudden the windows bootloader decides to ruin my day?
[10:34] <Aldus> so that goto xyz goes to /var/www/xyz, goto 123 goes to /var/www/123
[10:34] <p1oooop> AP, I kinda tried the guide on the ubuntu help website
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: does the system have 2 harddrives in it?
[10:35] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip yes it does
[10:35] <moniker127> How would I go about finding whether i'm using 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu?
[10:35] <mick02> Aldus, I'm not sure I understand. If you set up your alias to be cd /var/www/ then all you would need to do is to type goto mydir as the alias goto is cd /var/www/
[10:35] <Aldus> thank you fosco_ your solution works
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: you can tab complete my name. makes it highlight like i'm highlighting yours
[10:35] <fosco_> moniker127: uname -m
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: has someone been messing with bios settings?
[10:35] <Aldus> I made it with alias goto="cd /var/www/$1"
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Aldus: use ' not "
[10:35] <InCrypto_work> type in sudo init 6
[10:36] <Aldus> ok, why ?
[10:36] <moniker127> returns i686, im assuming that means 32?
[10:36] <B|ackPanther> i have executed this instruction and i want to move back if its possible : http://paste.ubuntu.com/119159/
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Aldus: thats how it is, read the other alias lines in the file
[10:36] <InCrypto_work> nah don do tht .. u wud hate me then
[10:36] <fosco_> moniker127: yes, 32bits
[10:36] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip no, I thought of that too, but no, I may have to doublecheck this though
[10:36] <Aldus> ok... thanks
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> moniker127: yes, i686 = 32bit. x86_64 = 64bit
[10:36] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get --force-all package?
[10:36] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip is there any other possible explanation for this?
[10:36] <mick02> Aldus check out http://pastebin.com/ffc35342
[10:36] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get --force-all package?
[10:36] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip thanks..
[10:36] <moniker127> does ubuntu have the same memory limitation of windows where it can only address something like 3 gigs with 32?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: sudo dpkg --force-all -r <package name>
[10:37] <mchelen> yeah but i think its more like 6gb
[10:37] <gldtn> oh
[10:37] <Boohbah> moniker127: no, just enable highmem support in the kernel
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: makes it less confusing in a channel af 1400
[10:37] <[OES]> Hi All
[10:37] <p1oooop> lol
[10:37] <fosco_> moniker127: yes and not, by default 32bits kernels can only allocate 3.5gb of ram
[10:37] <Manas> no audio only video on vlc player...why?
[10:37] <vinkki> or can someone say if that "you have new email" is a evolution or ubuntu "feature" ?
[10:37] <Boohbah> moniker127: yeah depends on how many bits you have for memory addressing
[10:37] <moniker127> well, i only have 4 gigs, maybe its just easier to format and install 64 or not bother
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> fosco_: true, but the server 32bit kernel + ram partitioning can go a little higher
[10:38] <shinoj> Manas can you hear sound otherwise?
[10:38] <[OES]> Im trying to edit /etc/network/interfaces with vim but its not allowing me to save. its saying add ! to override ??
[10:38] <fosco_> moniker127: but you can recompile your kernel with HIMEM support and get rid of that limitation
[10:38] <fosco_> moniker127: you'd better install 64bits ubuntu
[10:38] <B|ackPanther> and this has messed up my vm so i want to change back.
[10:38] <Manas> shinoj, i say on audio..only video...on vlc
[10:38] <ForeverSmurf>  My desktop system regularly hangs at the moment for a few seconds and then it becomes responsive again. I am looking for some clever suggestions in how to identify the problem
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: you dont override, that would make the whole OS hugely insecure
[10:38] <lvlefisto> moniker127: some software are not available for 64 bit ubuntu, let's say for example, java plugin for mozilla
[10:38] <ForeverSmurf> E.g: how do I know if it is X and not the kernel, etc...
[10:38] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, same error as the first.. not found.. I tried to run nautilus as root and going to the folder but it does no exist
[10:39] <Manas> totally no sound on ubuntu
[10:39] <moniker127> fosco, i'm not even going to bother with that. it isnt as easy for me as it is for you
[10:39] <p1oooop> is this working? Action
[10:39] <[OES]> So how do I update my network then
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: you need to use sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces
[10:39] <[OES]> I am ActionParsnip
[10:39] <[OES]> Im trying to get out of it
[10:39] <Dreamglider> who would i go about editing the source of the clock in the gnome panel ?
[10:39] <shinoj> Manas, i am asking are you able to hear the sound in any other application? start up sound?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: the file is not writable by normal users so needs sudo or gksudo if you use apps like gedit
[10:39] <[OES]> im in as sudo
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> [OES]: try: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[10:40] <mick02> ActionParsnip, perhaps you could help me with something, I've got 2 HDD's installed, one runs a web server and the other runs Webmin. When I installed Webmin it wrote over my menu.lst, no matter what I do I can't figure out how to get the original menu.lst back. I've read lots of article online but so far I can't get both OS's to show up in the grub menu. Have you any ideas for me to try?
[10:40] <Manas> shinoj, no
[10:40] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip, well thanks for the links and the replys. I'll try to figure out the rest myself
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !grub | mick02
[10:40] <shinoj> Manas, it is not the problem with vlc.
[10:40] <mick02> ActionParsnip, I've been through both of those links but they're not helping me at all
[10:41] <shinoj> Manas try to install alsa
[10:41] <Manas> how?
[10:41] <shinoj> Manas alsa latest from their website
[10:41] <Manas> how
[10:41] <shinoj> Manas you have to compile it
[10:41] <Manas> i have compaq laptop
[10:41] <fosco_> Dreamglider: editing source code is not usual in ubuntu, are you sure you need to do that?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> mick02: you just need to add an extra option to one of the menu.lst file for the other hard drive, the one you choose will also need grub writing to the boot sector which is what the guide for windows overwriting the boot sector will help with
[10:41] <mick02> [OES] if you type sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces then make your changes then type :wq what happens to the file?
[10:41] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: wow... works
[10:42] <shinoj> Manas oh, compaq laptop?
[10:42] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks AP
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: wtg
[10:42] <Manas> cq40, 144tu
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: works with everybody elses name too
[10:42] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:42] <p1oooop> wow... I'm freezing
[10:42] <shinoj> Manas, then, i think, you dont need to compile alsa. almost all their hardware is recognized in linux
[10:43] <moniker127> if i installed the server kernel would it recognize 4 gigs of ram?
[10:43] <Manas> so what i do, shinoj?
[10:43] <shinoj> Manas it must be the problem with volume controller
[10:43] <mick02> ActionParsnip, cheers. I'll get stuck into it in a few hours, I need to give my brain a rest
[10:43] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, did you get my last message?
[10:43] <shinoj> Manas just try to adjust the volume
[10:43] <Manas> shinoj, i have vista, and works fine there
[10:44] <SiDi> moniker127, you need 64 bit version for the 4th gig to be recognised
[10:44] <shinoj> Manas and try to lower the volume, or maximze the volume, there is fine tune between somewhere
[10:44] <shinoj> it will work
[10:44] <Manas> ok..i try...shinoj
[10:44] <henhir> Hello there. I would like to change my window manager. But I can not find xinitrc anywhere in my homedir. What do I need to do? (Not using kdm or gdm or xdm)
[10:44] <shinoj> i think you must be having a realtek audio card
[10:44] <gldtn> is the bot here a tcl?
[10:45] <SiDi> henhir, if you don't have any .xinitrc, create it ? :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: try: file /etc/network/interfaces
[10:45] <fosco_> henhir: echo "your window manager > .xinitrc and restrt X
[10:45] <Manas> shinoj..no use
[10:45] <henhir> Thank you, I try
[10:45] <Manas> any other idea?
[10:46] <kyledr> how do i get XVideo to work with fglrx?
[10:46] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, ?? "try: file /etc/network/interfaces"
[10:46] <crdlb> kyledr: by disabling compiz :/
[10:46] <kyledr> crdlb: what?
[10:46] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: can ya help me with persistent mode on live cdboot?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: its a terminal command
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: its not something ive ever done
[10:47] <crdlb> kyledr: XVideo should work with fglrx, just not when a compositing manager is running
[10:47] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: well thanks anyway
[10:47] <kyledr> crdlb: i'm only using ion
[10:47] <crdlb> kyledr: hrm, what GPU?
[10:47] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, I think you mixed me up with someone else
[10:47] <distant_voice> ActionParsnip, thanks again. you were right, the bios messed up somehow. I still wonder what did this but since everything is back to normal I'm happy
[10:48] <p1oooop> good news... terminal worked!!!
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i do, my mistake
[10:48] <kyledr> crdlb: ati radeon x700
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> distant_voice: awesome
[10:48] <kyledr> crdlb: xvinfo reports no adaptors
[10:48] <milligan_> God damn compact flash reader. WORK!
[10:48] <Bolin> Is it possible to install ubuntu 8.10 desktop without having grub installed during the installationen?
[10:48] <moniker127> this sounds like a terribly noobish question - and it is - but how can i tell whether i'm running 8.04 or 8.10? I used a cd from a while ago, and i never mark my cds
[10:48] <kyledr> moniker127: uname -a
[10:49] <crdlb> kyledr: open source driver doesn't work / isn't fast enough?
[10:49] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, you were helping me out with the bad state package removal... Thats ok.. I can see your quite the popular guy at this time
[10:49] <moniker127> ah thanks
[10:49] <kyledr> oh wait that's wrong
[10:49] <prince_jammys> moniker127: lsb_release -a . uname tells you about the kernel
[10:49] <henhir> How to setup my wm for multiheads?
[10:49] <kyledr> crdlb: never tried it
[10:49] <milligan_> Bolin, yes
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: ok try: sudo dpkg --force-all -r <whatever its called>
[10:49] <Bolin> how do i do that?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: whats that give you
[10:49] <kyledr> moniker127: that'll actually only tell you your kernel version
[10:49] <moniker127> are the -a and -m switches standard for most applications?
[10:49] <crdlb> kyledr: it's the default
[10:49] <milligan_> Bolin, click that you don't want to install grub.
[10:50] <prince_jammys> moniker127: often -a means 'all', but there's no rule about it
[10:50] <kyledr> crdlb: i had no video driver by default
[10:50] <Bolin> I never got that option when i installed last night?
[10:50] <kyledr> crdlb: i installed from the minimal disk
[10:50] <bhaka> Should I enable SATA AHCI mode in BIOS when installing Ubuntu 8.10 on a new machine?
[10:50] <Larie> hi
[10:50] <moniker127> ah okay
[10:50] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/d164c7445
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> bhaka: its offtopic here
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> !ot | bhaka
[10:50] <Larie> kakoy ircd server stabilney na ubuntu?
[10:51] <kyledr> moniker127: cat /etc/issue
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: sudo touch /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper/cupswrappermfc240c
[10:51] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, I also tried to sudo nautilus and going to the dir itś saying itś not there and I couldn find it
[10:51] <kyledr> crdlb: but fglrx should be able to do xvideo, but i can't understand what the deal is. perhaps a bad xorg config?
[10:51] <crdlb> kyledr: ok, install xserver-xorg-video-ati, uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx, remove the Driver line from your xorg.conf, and reboot
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: then try again
[10:51] <crdlb> kyledr: fglrx is an abomination
[10:51] <gldtn> touch: cannot touch `/usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper/cupswrappermfc240c': No such file or directory
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i know, thats what touch will do, its gonna make the file to keep dpkg happy
[10:51] <Larie> help!!!!!!!!!!!!! what ircd server is most stable under ubuntu intrepid?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: just get that file made however you want
[10:52] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, can I make it on any dir and then touch?
[10:52] <kyledr> crdlb: ok, i have a feeling i'm about to have a broken X server. the driver was already installed but the xorg autoconfigure left me video-less until i installed fgrlx
[10:53] <crdlb> kyledr: well, r400 has been well-supported by the radeon driver for a while now
[10:53] <crdlb> if it doesn't work, it's definitely a bug
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: you may need to create the folders which the file that is missing is in
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: then create the file using a text editor or whatever, it just needs to exist. We are basically humouring the installer
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: you may need to make several subfolders if they arre not present on your system
[10:55] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: welll.... I'm off see ya sometime....
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: peace
[10:55] <prince_jammys> mkdir -p /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper && touch  touch /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc240c/cupswrapper/cupswrappermfc240c
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> prince_jammys: that'll need sudo ;)
[10:55] <prince_jammys> one touch too many
[10:56] <prince_jammys> yeah
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> prince_jammys: didnt know mkdir could make subfolders like that if they all dont exist
[10:56] <prince_jammys> practical
[10:57] <fde> ActionParsnip: you've been around too long to not come across -p
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> oh definately but i was unaware
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> fde: didnt know, its dead handy, i always: mkdir foo; cd foo; mkdir bar; cd bar
[10:57] <kyledr> well xorg works with the open source drivers but it looks like 3d support went the way of old yeller... fps is 1/10th what it used to be on glxgears
[10:58] <kyledr> is there a way to get opengl working with the open source ati drivers?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[10:58] <crdlb> kyledr: first of all, glxgears is not a benchmark
[10:58] <kyledr> i guess technically it may have opengl support but it's crappy
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> kyledr: thats all i know. I dont use ati
[10:58] <fde> ActionParsnip: couple that with [foo,bar,etc] and you can do some pretty complex dir layouts on one command
[10:58] <eslam> hello how i can see my all hard disk PLS?
[10:58] <prince_jammys> { }
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> fde: totally :D:D
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> eslam: sudo fdisk -l
[10:59] <p1oooop> \loogout
[10:59] <fde> prince_jammys: I always get that muggled until I actually do it.. lol
[10:59] <prince_jammys> fde: :)
[10:59] <crdlb> kyledr: are you on hardy or intrepid?
[10:59] <kyledr> crdlb: intrepid
[10:59] <prince_jammys> fde: try this; echo (and now type alt { )
[11:00] <prince_jammys> alt+caps+[
[11:00] <eslam> this my 1St time to use ubuntu
[11:00] <andatche> ye
[11:01] <SiDi> !mount | eslam
[11:01] <SiDi> !fstab | eslam
[11:01] <crdlb> kyledr: what does   glxinfo | grep -i software   say?
[11:01] <SiDi> eslam, read about this, it'll explain you how to automatically mount your other HDDs so that they're available
[11:01] <kyledr> crdlb: OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> eslam: you have a lot to learn so all this will look daunting. but hang in there and you'll be fine
[11:02] <crdlb> kyledr: you have no 3d then
[11:02] <crdlb> kyledr: did you reboot?
[11:02] <kyledr> crdlb: no i restarted x
[11:02]  * crdlb said reboot for a reason
[11:02] <kyledr> oh i missed that
[11:02] <crdlb> fglrx still has kernel stuff loaded ;)
[11:03] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, thanks... the force option worked.. but just a quick question.. why should force be used as last resort.. does it do any harm to the system ? also should I run any other options after I run --force-all to clean or something?
[11:03] <fde> Why not just modprobe that stuff... and throw them into /etc/modules so you don't have to do it again later?
[11:03] <fde> Restarting is unnecessary.
[11:03] <fde> (or modprobe -r if you want it gone)
[11:03] <crdlb> fde: because fglrx does weird stuff
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: as it removes it even if there are problems which can remove files you need
[11:04] <crdlb> it's best to get an un-fglrxed kernel when testing if the radeon driver will actually work
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: force is basically not advised unless its super necessary
[11:04] <fde> gldtn: yes, it has a high likelihood of doing bad things... if it were entirely safe to do, the package manager wouldn't be trying to stop you.
[11:04] <amstrad83> hello to everyone
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: i'd now run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: just to check everything is good and straight
[11:05] <kyledr> still software renderer =/
[11:05] <kyledr> lsmod|grep fglrx shows fglrx                1951452  0 ...?
[11:05] <gldtn> fde: thanks; you mean it can corrupt my entire O/S?
[11:06] <crdlb> kyledr: did you uninstall xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:06] <kyledr> crdlb: yes
[11:06] <crdlb> and didn't install it via some other means?
[11:06] <amstrad83> i'm italian ubuntu user with problem with "ATi" a tried to post my bug in italian support forum but still not replies, i'm so sorry for my english but is the best i can do, someone can help me in there?
[11:06] <kyledr> dunno, how do i check if it's installed besides trying to apt-get it?
[11:07] <savvas> kyledr: apt-cache policy yourpackage
[11:07] <SiDi> amstrad83, someone will probably help you if you tell us what your problem is exactly ;)
[11:07] <kyledr> crdlb: yeah it says it's not installed
[11:07] <gldtn> ActionParsnip, thanks for the great help
[11:08] <amstrad83> Sidi: thx i will try with my poor english ;)
[11:08] <crdlb> kyledr: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:08] <kyledr> crdlb: http://pastebin.com/f74123b2c
[11:09] <fde> gldtn: depending on package, sure... more likely is that that package simply won't run, or maybe it'll replace necessary files from other packages and break things
[11:09] <jaapvisser> i am trying to loop  mount a .img file like:  sudo mount -t ??? -o loop my.img /mnt/img  fdisk -lu  my.img tells me itś a id: 83 Linux image.. if i do sudo mount -t linux this does not work anybody a clue?
[11:10] <fde> gldtn: a lot of times though, upstream simply moves files from one place to another, so packages conflict based on this file, and you have to --force-replace to fix it... just have to know what you're doing.
[11:10] <kyledr> crdlb: dri isn't loading, some weird error. you see it?
[11:10] <crdlb> kyledr: yes, that's just the result of it seeing the fglrx module
[11:10] <gldtn> fde, thanks for the detailed info
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: np man
[11:11] <Guest50040> With new kernel connection to my usb modem stopped working.
[11:11] <fde> jaapvisser: -t auto doesn't find it? type 83 can be any of ext2 jfs reiserfs or xfs (ext3 and 4 are backwards compat. with ext2)
[11:11] <kyledr> crdlb: how can i get rid of it? did fgrlx mess with my kernel and i have to recompile it?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> gldtn: thats why i said to reinstall it as it would put the missing file in more gracefully than just manually creatin it
[11:11] <crdlb> kyledr: I guess you can modprobe -r fglrx and modprobe radeon, but I have no idea why the fglrx module would load if the driver isn't installed
[11:12] <jaapvisser> fde tnx, did try ext2 + ext3 will try the other options also
[11:12] <kyledr> crdlb: my guess is apt-get remove doesn't fix the kernel to the way it was before fglrx was installed, assuming fglrx messes with it
[11:12] <fde> crdlb: radeon shouldn't need to be modprobe'd its part of DRI
[11:12] <bhaka> How to install Ubuntu with a USB stick?
[11:12] <kyledr> crdlb: reboot again?
[11:12] <crdlb> kyledr: it happens at boot via linux-restricted-modules
[11:12] <fde> jaapvisser: you should really just leave out the -t option altogether and let the command figure out the fs
[11:12] <X-tremAl_Raven> With new kernel connection to my usb modem stopped working.
[11:12] <fde> !usb stick
[11:13] <crdlb> fde: meh, I knew that :P
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: does the modemshow up in lsusb?
[11:13] <p1oooop> hey anyone know how to change a config file that is "owned" by root?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: sudo for command line based, gksudo for gnome based
[11:14] <p1oooop> I see
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: sudo nano /path/to/file
[11:14] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: I see
[11:14] <fde> bhaka: Umm, System > Administration > Create a USB boot disc
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: or gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[11:14] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: np man
[11:14] <fde> !usb-creator
[11:14] <fde> !botslap
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> !find usb
[11:14] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: so does it work with all conf. file types?
[11:15] <p1oooop> hey, I'm also looking for info on USB creator
[11:15] <jaapvisser> fde is i do a mount without the -t command i get : mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:15] <jaapvisser>  did try : -t ext2, ext3, jfs, reiserfs all fail
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: literally any file, if you want to edit the images in /usr/share/pixmaps (without copying the file first) you must use gksudo <some graphics package>
[11:15] <X-tremAl_Raven> ActionParsnip: Bus 005 Device 005: ID 0586:3309 ZyXEL Communications Corp.
[11:15] <fde> !help
[11:16] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:16] <X-tremAl_Raven> ActionParsnip: But dmesg show: usb 5-2: no configuration chosen from 1 choice
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: ok then find out how that is onfigured under your release of ubuntu
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: i'd also search for that
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> X-tremAl_Raven: nice that you knew of dmesg :)
[11:16] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: dude, you're like a server... fast
[11:16] <amstrad83> I've an Ati Radeon 9800 and i modify the xorg.conf to use the dual view on my tv connectev via sVideo. if I change this file in this and restart the computer via ctrl+alt+del i have the aspected result but if shutdown or restart fisically the computer i can log in because it stop to a black screen... and the only way to fix is using the default xorg
[11:16] <amstrad83> Again sorry for my poor poor english
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: i dont use the mouse much, too sloooooooooow
[11:16] <bhaka> fde: thanks, ill try it
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: so my kb skills are ok
[11:16] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: LOL
[11:17] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: same thing the teacher tellls us
[11:17] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip:  lokkee here *(&^^ I;m freaking usiing the computer without a mouse...
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> p1oooop: mouse is for web browsing and telling k3b what to do (i dont burn cds at cli) otherwise I do the rest in yakuake
[11:17] <Viper111> how can i write an iptable command in order to allow smtp
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !iptables
[11:18] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: sometimes older things are better....
[11:18] <B|ackPanther> Does this error "could not exec /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx :Exec format error " mean i dont have permission to execute the file ?
[11:18] <fde> bhaka: haven't tried it myself, honestly, but it should be what you want... there is also 'uck' which might be better for you? not installed by default though (might be new to jaunty too idk)
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: run: file /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx
[11:18] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: great life lesson I learned
[11:19] <kyledr> it happened again with the dri not loading and fglrx loading.... dkpg started fglrx i think?
[11:19] <kyledr> i did the modprobe -r fglrx and modprobe radeon
[11:19] <fde> kyledr: dpkg doesn't start anything
[11:19] <kyledr> then restarted
[11:19] <B|ackPanther> ActionParsnip : i dont understand
[11:20] <kyledr> fde: well fglrx started right below a line about dpkg
[11:20] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Sorry, disconnected. Did you say something after you asked about lsusb?
[11:20] <fde> kyledr: ensure that fglrx isn't in /etc/modules or in any of the files in /etc/modprobe.d/  (just comment it out if it is)
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: its a terminal command. 'file' is the command '/usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx' is the argument
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: the command in full is: file /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx
[11:20] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: My last message was: But dmesg show: usb 5-2: no configuration chosen from 1 choice
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: you will need to websearch those outputs you found which i'm sure will turn up some gold
[11:21] <p1oooop> wow... pigdin just died
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: it tells you what sort of file it is
[11:21] <p1oooop> I was doing my jfkldas; chant
[11:21] <kyledr> how can i prevent fglrx from loading and making radeon load?
[11:21] <p1oooop> LOL
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> kyledr: blacklist it
[11:21] <kyledr> ActionParsnip: why would it want to start anyway?
[11:21] <nagatzul> Good afternoon everyone :) I got a problem that is recurring on other Ubuntu puters too, when I record sound I get a loud noise that sounds like a slow fan... Any idea why?
[11:21] <fde> kyledr: I just told you... but there is no radeon module... its part of DRI
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> kyledr: no idea
[11:21] <amstrad83> anyone for me or just anyone can undeerstand my prob
[11:21] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip: I just found a flaw within pigdin
[11:21] <B|ackPanther> ActionParsnip : Am trying to start vmare and i get that error.So which file should i pass on  *.vmx ?
[11:22] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Kernel updated today. I'm not sure google indexes so fast.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> !vmware
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> B|ackPanther: or ask in #vmware
[11:22] <fde> !anyone
[11:22] <kyledr> fde: so what do i load if i want the open source ati driver to be loaded?
[11:22] <fde> kyledr: it'll be loaded automatically via dri  :/
[11:23] <kyledr> fde: ok thanks
[11:23] <p1oooop> ah vmware... the one thing that totally ruined my gaming comp... LOL JK
[11:23] <kyledr> fglrx being loaded despite not being installed bugs me a bit though
[11:23] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Your search - "ZyXEL Communications Corp" "no configuration chosen from " - did not match any documents. :((((
[11:24] <fde> kyledr: have to select 'radeon' as xorg Driver though... just throw 'blacklist fglrx' into any file in /etc/modprobe.d/ and it shouldn't be loaded again - then ensure xserver-xorg-driver-fglrx isn't installed (dpkg -l | grep fglrx as an easy check)
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: search for the usb identifier
[11:24] <p1oooop> well... going to sleep and loosing mounds of data laters guys
[11:24] <kyledr> i may have gotten it via insmod, so how do i undo what insmod does?
[11:24] <fde> kyledr: something from fglrx is definitely installed currently.
[11:24] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: "ZyXEL Communications Corp" - that was it
[11:25] <fde> kyledr: you've been told 3 times now. you blacklist it.
[11:25] <fde> kyledr: insmod is just a lowerlevel interface to modprobe
[11:25] <fde> Do not play with it unless you know what you're doing.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: if you look slightly before that you will see some hex didgits
[11:25] <fde> (same with rmmod)
[11:26] <kyledr> fde: i did blacklist it, but it seems like a band-aid rather than the answer
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: e.g. ID 0424:2228
[11:26] <amstrad83> Does anyone why if i restart with ctrl+alt+del after i modify my xorg file to use dual view my pc is ok, but if i restart fisically or i shutdown i need to move back at the original xorg or i get a black screen?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: if you search for the hex didgits you may come up with something. Those are from my pc so won't help you
[11:26] <nagatzul> Good afternoon everyone :) I got a problem that is recurring on other Ubuntu puters too, when I record sound I get a loud noise that sounds like a slow fan... Any idea why?
[11:26] <kyledr> i found the fglrx module in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/update/dkms/fglrx.ko i remember fglrx starting at boot under dkms. what's dkms?
[11:26] <fde> kyledr: the answer is to ensure nothing related to fglrx is currently installed... via dpkg -l | grep fglrx ... blacklisting is not a bandaid, it is a very proper way to configure udev
[11:27] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Same results.
[11:27] <n2diy> nagatzul: could be external noise, powerline hum, etc...
[11:28] <nagatzul> n2diy: it ain't there in Vista
[11:28] <fde> kyledr: Dynamic Kernel Module System... it allows for binary drivers to maintain functionality through kernel updates
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> X_A_R: then id run lsmod > ~/bad.txr  then boot to the working kernel and run lsmod > ~/good.txt   and compare
[11:28] <nagatzul> And it's way to loud to be external noise, it overpowers my voice
[11:28] <fde> Actually, all drivers... but its only really necessary for binary ones
[11:28] <nono0494> #sdz@Epiknet.org
[11:29] <guigui_> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[11:29] <n2diy> nagatzul: Wrong module?
[11:29] <X_A_R> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[11:29] <fde> kyledr: without dkms, you'd have to reinstall/recompile all drivers for the given kernel, even minor updates... it gets annoying
[11:29] <kyledr> dpks -l|grep fglrx says "rc xorg-driver-fglrx         2:8.573-0ubuntu1"
[11:29] <nagatzul> n2diy: Care to elaborate on that? :P
[11:29] <kyledr> fde: i used to have to do that with gentoo, it was
[11:30] <n2diy> nagatzul: A module is what Windows folks call a driver.
[11:30] <fde> kyledr: yeah, sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver-fglrx - then xorg won't keep trying to load that driver.
[11:30] <nagatzul> n2diy: This ugly little earpiece didn't come with drivers
[11:30] <crdlb> xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:30] <guigui_> how uninstall aplication ?
[11:30] <kyledr> fde: is that different than apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:30] <brasilll> alguem ala minha lingua?
[11:30] <erUSUL> !software | kyledr
[11:30] <erUSUL> !br | brasilll
[11:30] <kyledr> fde: the line is still there
[11:30] <brasilll> qualcuno parla italiano?
[11:31] <brasilll> ok
[11:31] <erUSUL> !it | brasilll
[11:31] <fde> kyledr: just shorter... I prefer aptitude... that is equivalent to apt-get remove --purge
[11:31] <brasilll> français?
[11:31] <guigui_> moi
[11:31] <guigui_> français
[11:31] <erUSUL> fde: apt-get now accepts purge iirc
[11:31] <kyledr> fde: ok, well the line remains "rc xorg-driver-fglrx   2:8.573-0ubuntu1"
[11:31] <fde> kyledr: you will have to restart X after removing that driver... then it should figure out that it needs to use radeon
[11:32] <saywatmang> Favorit++
[11:32] <kyledr> fde: ok thanks
[11:32] <fde> kyledr: rc means it didn't remove config files
[11:32] <kyledr> fde: can i force it?
[11:32] <n2diy> nagatzul:ok, then you'll have to be more specific. A slow fan could be a lot of things?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> fde:  erUSUL: use sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[11:33] <nagatzul> n2diy: Further it seems like it's mainly in aMSn... Let me get you a short clip
[11:33] <fde> kyledr: not at this point...
[11:33] <fde> ActionParsnip: no, I'll use aptitude - thanks
[11:33] <nagatzul> n2diy:  D'oh... Now I got bigger issues :P
[11:33] <fde> erUSUL: could be, I don't follow apt-get development
[11:33] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: i know i was pointed out that now "apt-get purge package" is valid
[11:33] <kyledr> fde: aww. oh well thanks a lot
[11:34] <B|ackPanther> Does swapping the folders here mv /usr/bin/vmware /usr/bin/vmware.orig reverse the command ?
[11:34] <fde> aptitude is more powerful... apt-get is just wget on steroids  :/
[11:34] <dar> elo
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: you need --purge afaik
[11:34] <n2diy> nagatzul: What's the other issue? Don't bother sending me an audio, my speakerls aren't powered up.
[11:34] <dar> i d like to know how could i know if squid has been built with --enable-ssl option
[11:34] <fde> B|ackPanther: why are you asking about vmware here? it is not supported by ubuntu.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> fde: i dont get how you can need more power for something that installs and removes packages, what does aptitude do thats extra?
[11:35] <nagatzul> n2diy:  It went from a distinct pulsing noise to giving me "[12:33:16] An error occured when trying to record the sound : Could not gain access to /dev/dsp for writing."
[11:35] <DGRick> Can someone help me, how do I reinstall proftpd so I can make it standalone (Ubuntu Server)
[11:35] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: yu are on intrepid? do "apt-get help". Man page is out of day :|
[11:35] <fde> ActionParsnip: it has a more powerful such function... it is also more configurable with relation to Recommends and Suggests packages
[11:36] <fde> search*
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: ive not read that thing in tiiiiiiime
[11:36] <n2diy> nagatzul: ???? DSP sounds like digital signal processing, but what generates the errer?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> fde: apt-cache search brings down all you need. It reads the packages and descriptions. what more can you do there?
[11:36] <mjfcolas> #ubuntu-fr
[11:36] <nagatzul> n2diy: The act of clicking the voiceclip button in amsn
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> fde: all i can see is that it does the equiv of autoremove when you uninstall which is no big woop
[11:37] <nagatzul> n2diy: *sigh* This is getting worse, now aMsn closed down instead when I clicked it...
[11:38] <fde> ActionParsnip: I can say 'in packages that are part of gnome, search for this string' ... so I don't have to sit through scrolling text while it returns everything apt-cache would decide to spew at me
[11:38] <nagatzul> n2diy: Lemme just try the recorder in ubuntu first :P
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> fde: thats why we grep :)
[11:38] <n2diy> nagatzul: Do you have Audacity installed?
[11:38] <fde> ActionParsnip: why grep when I can do it more cleanly though?
[11:38] <Mindpoke> Can anyone help me find out why my laptops wlan isn't working? my wlan mini PCI-e card is showing up in "lsusb" which is confusing to say the least. =/
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> fde: i can see the not gnome apps is useful, Agent_Bob gave me a script a bit ago to determine
[11:39] <fde> ActionParsnip: and grep doesn't help with depends or long descriptions
[11:39] <delly> hi
[11:39] <nagatzul> n2diy: Don't think so, however I noticed that it's fine in the regular recorder so it's an aMsn issue instead..
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> fde: im comfortable with grep, plus i dont have to install an extra app
[11:39] <fde> ActionParsnip: aptitude is installed by default
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> fde: but i can see your point but I use my systems for the same stuff so I know exactly what needs to be on them
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> fde: i always remove it as well as getdeb and adpept-notifier
[11:40] <delly> wamp is workable or not on ubuntu
[11:40] <n2diy> nagatzul: ok, so we are sure it is external, and not coming from your box?
[11:40] <fde> ActionParsnip: I've been using aptitude exclusively since mid etch development... apt-get and apt-cache are a pita when you're used to it
[11:40] <Favorit> ik ga zo over een uurtje naar huus, dan ga ik ff belluh
[11:40] <nagatzul> n2diy: It only happens in aMsn so yes, positive.
[11:40] <Favorit> oops
[11:40] <Favorit> sorry
[11:40] <zaggynl> lmao
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> fde: ive had no worries, ive helped countless folks in here with apt-cache searches
[11:41] <Boohbah> delly: windows apache php mysql? ubuntu is not windows
[11:41] <fde> ActionParsnip: I've only been using Debian-based since 98 though, so thanks for your input on what I should use...
[11:41] <Favorit> Boohbah: but but, my ubuntu has nice wondows which I can move around! :P
[11:41] <Favorit> windows, too
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> fde: i never said what yo should or shouldnt use, just the advantages you say that aptitude has arent really anything over apt for me
[11:42] <Boohbah> delly: but if you s/windows/linux/ then it is workable
[11:42] <fde> ActionParsnip: lol... thats cuz most new features of apt-get and apt-cache come directly from modifications to libapt due to aptitude
[11:42] <Favorit> apt forever. I'm using debian distro's for like 15 years now, i always get lost in damn aptitude
[11:42] <n2diy> nagatzul: ok, I'm not familiar witht aMsn, but if that seems to be the problem, sniff on that. Could it be a connection issue?
[11:42] <Favorit> which whacko wrote it...
[11:43] <Favorit> nagatzul: I'm familiar with aMsn and can spank it's coders, what's the issue?
[11:43] <Favorit> its*
[11:43] <delly> i have unstall wamp on ubuntu but this is not working properperly
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> fde: im not talking about where anything is derived from. I just cant see why i need aptitude and apt if apt does everything. You say it has advantages and from what you have explained its still and previously was a pointless application to me, thats all i'm saying
[11:43] <nagatzul> Favorit: As soon as I try to send a soundclip it gives me a reeeally annoying distortion
[11:43] <DGRick> How do I edit .conf files in ubuntu Server?
[11:43] <fde> Favorit: I have never once ran the ncurses interface to aptitude... it is just a modern dselect though... and both are frontends to apt, so I highly doubt you've been using debian for 15 years
[11:44] <delly> so i wanna install lamp plz help me
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> DGRick: nano, if they are not in your home dir, sudo nano
[11:44] <p1oooop> this seems alot like a chat program i know of caller flashchat
[11:44] <erUSUL> !lamp | delly
[11:44] <DGRick> ActionParsnip thx
[11:44] <radu> hi
[11:44] <lvlefisto> I have now pulseaudio working for skype and realplayer except for the mic on skype. I have it using ALSA. Does anyone know how to make the mic work with pulseaudio?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> fde: do you see my point?
[11:44] <lvlefisto> The problem is when i select pulseaudio in the input device it doesn't record almost any sound.
[11:44] <Favorit> fde: I know that they are frontends, but I've always made what I wanted to achieve with apt faster than figuring out aptitude or dselect
[11:44] <erUSUL> DGRick: with your text editor of choice using sudo
[11:45] <fde> ActionParsnip: No.
[11:45] <Favorit> nagatzul: send? when you send soundclip it shouldn't be playing it really
[11:45] <nagatzul> Favorit: Oh it doesn't, it's just when I play it up myself, or the reciever clicks it, it's like, my voice and a distinct "I just shoved the mic into the spinning fan" kind of sound
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fde: to me aptitude offers nothing more and I asked you to explain the advantages and from what you said, its what i already do with an extra command which is fine for me. so its still a dead app to me
[11:46] <Favorit> nagatzul: and what is your default mediaplayer that aMsn tries to invoke?
[11:46] <fde> Favorit: aptitude shares most of the cli commands with apt-get and apt-cache, with a few more thrown in to make life easier... if you know apt-get there is no learning curve to using aptitude
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fde: ive been waiting for someone who uses it instead of apt to find out the difference
[11:46] <nagatzul> Favorit: Good question, I have no clue :P
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> fde: thats all, then you started going on about features and thinking i told you what to use which was bizarre
[11:46] <Spark> what's the point of using aptitude on the commandline?
[11:47] <Spark> it coexists perfectly with apt-get
[11:47] <Boohbah> Favorit: This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[11:47] <Spark> i use aptitude for the nice browsing gui
[11:47] <Spark> for sorting out messed up dependencies and that kind of thing
[11:47] <azzarev> Hi guys
[11:47] <fde> Favorit: before aptitude, I used to use deborphan and debfoster to manage some of the same things that aptitude does for me... that apt-get can now do the same is irrelevant because I still like the more advanced functions of aptitude (like trying to solve dep issues for me, instead of just giving me a useless error)
[11:47] <Boohbah> Spark: i've heard that it sometimes resolves complex dependencies better than apt-get alone.
[11:47] <Spark> on the command line?
[11:47] <niyado> hello
[11:48] <azzarev> Someone know some application to create internet point with ubuntu?
[11:48] <Spark> as soon as i get a dependency problem i want to sort it out myself though :)
[11:48] <Favorit> fde: well, let's put it this way - i never felt the need to learn anything else than apt :) it's prolly easier, better, faster, whatnot, I just hate having to browse through gui that _is_ default. And I've never had the need to look for keys that disable gui when basically apt always did the trick without any hassle with guis and disabling those
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: do you mean a web proxy?
[11:48] <Boohbah> azzarev: what is an internet point?
[11:48] <niyado> i need to know what is the command to put the ubuntustudio environment in ubuntu main
[11:48] <Spark> as it's usually me who caused it in the first place
[11:48] <azzarev> internet cafe
[11:48] <Favorit> fde: it's pretty much the same as some people have emacs as their default shell. They're used to it, they can't live without :-)
[11:48] <fde> Favorit: the tui is not default... it is just what you end up with if you don't read the man page
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Favorit: thats kinda my point, i thought itd be cool to see how the other half lived but it appears to ffer no extra features as far as I can see
[11:49] <Favorit> fde: it's not the default?
[11:49] <Spark> aptitude is more about browsing deep through dependencies, it's a gui, if you know exactly what you want it's quicker to just apt-get install blah or whatever
[11:49] <Boohbah> niyado: sudo su -c 'echo deb http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio feisty main >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:49] <Boohbah> niyado: wget -q http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[11:49] <Favorit> fde: install default debian/ubuntu, do NOT read any manpages, tweak any configs. type aptitude. You don't get tui?
[11:49] <Boohbah> niyado: s/feisty/whatever/
[11:49] <Favorit> that's one hell of an interesting default install you got there then
[11:50] <fde> Favorit: yes... but I've never typed aptitude by itself because I read man pages for all commands before I hit enter.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> fde: Favorit: each to their own but its nice to see what else there is
[11:50] <azzarev> I'm looking for an application to create a complete internet cafe. I have tried Openkiosk but it doesn't work.. any Idea?
[11:50] <nagatzul> Favorit: How do I check ?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: you can run an ubuntu box as a router
[11:51] <Favorit> fde that's another point. in an ideal posix world we have no tui's/gui's and we get syntax help after hitting commands :) (yeah, spank me up and call me charlie)
[11:51] <Favorit> nagatzul: let me have a look, moment
[11:51] <fde> aptitude = dselect deborphan debfoster apt-get apt-cache and automatic issue resolving built into one command.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: you need to be specific
[11:51] <Favorit> apt = knowledge of package structure and package manager without having to depend on presence of various tools :)
[11:52] <azzarev> ActionParsnip: I need to manage an internet cafe: credit, time, user. 6 client and 1 server
[11:52] <fde> Most every apt-get command you've ever seen is applicable to aptitude
[11:52]  * Favorit is bucking up and preparing for holy war. Whjeee, drama! :)
[11:52] <Boohbah> ActionParsnip: http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/
[11:53] <Boohbah> azzarev: openkiosk looks good. why does it not work for you?
[11:53] <azzarev> Boohbah: I have tried openkiosk, but during compile some file is missed
[11:53] <Favorit> nagatzul: hit Ctrl-P
[11:53] <Favorit> nagatzul: go to "other" tab
[11:54] <Favorit> nagatzul: look at sound server settings
[11:54] <azzarev> Boohbah: I think the is not complete at this time
[11:54] <Favorit> nagatzul: by default it uses aplay which probably sucks ass :)
[11:54] <Boohbah> azzarev: you will probably need to install qt dev libraries
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Boohbah: aim it at azzarev
[11:54] <blakesu> hi, everybody
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> !info openkiosk
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: did you get all the dependancies of it?
[11:54] <Boohbah> looks semi-proprietary.
[11:55] <azzarev> yes during ./configure and make all is fine
[11:55] <azzarev> when I make install I miss some file
[11:55] <nagatzul> Favorit: aplay $sound  is what it says
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: then you dont have the dependancys of the compilation
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: which you can install in
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: did you search for a guide on the forums to install the app?
[11:56] <anaislaclerc> Does anyone know how I can get my wireless adapter working on ubuntu minimal install? It works automatically on regular ubuntu automatically
[11:56] <azzarev> ActionParsnip: yes I did, i followed step by step
[11:57] <fde> azzarev: you are using KDE? ask in #kde - there is a tool they've put together that makes internet cafe's pretty easy to set up... also, there are things like pessulus for gnome
[11:57] <nagatzul> Favorit:  So what should I change to?
[11:58] <fde> azzarev: neither comes with any way to do time-based access though... there is something on kde-apps that does that however, idk about for gnome though
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: seems to use QT libs which are part of kde, do you have the QTlibs installed?
[11:58] <azzarev> fde: I have used KDe too.. ActionParsnip: QT libs are installed correctly
[11:58] <fde> azzarev: openkiosk only works with kde
[11:59] <fde> azzarev: well, kde and windows
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: do you have the -dev packages for each of the libs it uses?
[11:59] <Aeosynth> how do i get synaptic's quick search to see non-ubuntu packages?
[11:59] <Favorit> nagatzul: hmm, could try that built-in tcl library to see if it will help any
[11:59] <nagatzul> Favorit: It didn't
[11:59] <anaislaclerc> meow?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: they will all be ubuntu packages?
[11:59] <azzarev> fde: so I try to compile again ande KDE. ActionParsnip: All libs says are OK!
[12:00] <Aeosynth> ActionParsnip: well, the ones without the ubuntu symbol
[12:00] <Favorit> nagatzul: to be honest with all due respect to Alvaro, TCL isn't the best language to write msn in ;)
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> azzarev: then if you pastebin the compile error we may be able to advise
[12:00] <fde> azzarev: yes, you'll need all the kde -dev packages that that software requires
[12:00] <azzarev> fde: ok I do now.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Aeosynth: i dont use synaptic myself but now thats clearer maybe someone else can advise
[12:00] <Favorit> nagatzul: and if you type "aplay <thatfile.mp3>" or whatever you try to play in amsn, does it sound ok, or also with distortion?
[12:01] <fde> azzarev: note that just having the libs won't cut it... for compiling you _require_ the -dev package
[12:01] <Favorit> nagatzul: i.e. type that in shell, not in amsn
[12:01] <Aeosynth> how do i get rid of system beeps? they're very frequent, loud, and annoying on this laptop
[12:01] <fde> Aeosynth: gnome?
[12:01] <azzarev> fde: ok, thanks. I try.
[12:01] <Aeosynth> fde: yes. ubuntu 8.10
[12:02] <fde> Aeosynth: System > Preferences > Sound ... under the Sounds tab
[12:02] <fde> Aeosynth: just uncheck that stuff, then your system is a lot less annoying  :)
[12:03] <Sw3RvE> how do i get rid of those beeps on xubuntu?
[12:03] <anaislaclerc> nobody knows how I can get my wireless adepter working?
[12:03] <Aeosynth> fde: thanks! :)
[12:03] <fde> Sw3RvE: no idea, look in their config editor tool under the sound preferences
[12:04] <anaislaclerc> I heard you can get rid of system beeps with the alsa mixer
[12:04] <Sw3RvE> i tried the way previously mentioned for Aeosynth but i dont have that option.
[12:04] <fde> anaislaclerc: if you mute sound, perhaps? but otherwise no
[12:04] <Aeosynth> how do i get synaptic's quick search to see packages not maintained by canonical (ie no ubuntu icon)?
[12:05] <fde> Sw3RvE: you won't... but there will be something similar... just look around, I haven't used XFce in like 3 years
[12:05] <anaislaclerc> fde: yeah, I think they have a tab for system sound so you can just mute that
[12:05] <fde> anaislaclerc: not in alsamixer they don't
[12:05] <Sw3RvE> i found sound... they only have like 5 or 6 checkboxes in there tho
[12:06] <Mindpoke> anaislaclerc You can disable the system beeps by just disabling the pcspkr module
[12:06] <quibbler> Aeosynth, add other reproś to your source list
[12:06] <Sw3RvE> what is master and pcm (sound)
[12:06] <Sw3RvE> im assuming master means any sound including the music im listening to.
[12:07] <groogy> Yo! I want to install a certain package available in the repository though the 32bit version. Can I do that trough synaptic?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> groogy: you can install 32bit apps on 64bit as long as you have ia32 libs
[12:07] <kamyk> Witam all
[12:07] <Sw3RvE> 64 bit ftw :)
[12:07] <groogy> Yeh, but how do I find the package? :(
[12:08] <Favorit> apt-cache search :P
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> groogy: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[12:08] <kamyk> hi all
[12:08] <kamyk> i have a small problem ;D
[12:08] <groogy> I have already installed that package... Though I want the mysqlclient library in 32bit
[12:08] <groogy> I can't find the package
[12:08] <Favorit> kamyk: we all have some small problems, that's why we're all on IRC. Don't be afraid to share it with us! :)
[12:09] <kamyk> so
[12:09] <kamyk> i ff3
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> groogy: search the ubuntu package list and download the 32bit deb you need
[12:09] <kamyk> ;>
[12:09] <groogy> searcj the ubuntu package list.. You mean like on launchpad?
[12:09] <fde> groogy: dpkg -L ia32-libs ... it doesn't install any binaries.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> groogy: then use: sudo dpkg --force-arch -i <deb file>
[12:09] <Aeosynth> quibbler: I'm talking about the package available by default in a new ubuntu install which don't have the ubuntu icon next to them. I don't need to modify my source list in order to install them
[12:09] <Aeosynth> packages*
[12:10] <kamyk> ??
[12:10] <fde> groogy: you can only install 32bit stuff on a 64bit system via the ia32-<package> packages though... apt-get doesn't currently support multiarch
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> groogy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/net/
[12:10] <quibbler> Aeosynth, sorry i misunderstood
[12:10] <groogy> Thanks for the help, let's hope I can find it :P
[12:10] <Favorit> kamyk: did i miss your question? or what does "i ff3" mean?
[12:11] <kamyk> no no
[12:11] <Sw3RvE> is there any easy way to get open office 3.0?
[12:11] <kamyk> so
[12:11] <kamyk> fire fox 3 ;)
[12:11] <kamyk> firefox* 3
[12:11] <Favorit> yes, fire fox 3
[12:11] <kamyk> and
[12:11] <Aeosynth> quibbler: np. do you know how to get them searched by quick-search?
[12:11] <kamyk> when i go to yt
[12:11] <fde> kamyk: did you want to share your actual question?
[12:11] <mathieui> Sw3RvE: TES
[12:11] <mathieui> *yes
[12:11] <mathieui> sorry
[12:11] <Sw3RvE> tes?
[12:11] <kamyk> so i got firefox3
[12:11] <Favorit> fde: he wants. about one word per line :)
[12:11] <kamyk> an when i go to youtube
[12:11] <mathieui> Sw3RvE: there is a ppa
[12:12] <kamyk> i have white screen
[12:12] <kamyk> an only text
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[12:12] <fde> Sw3RvE: yes... search google for openoffice ppa and add it to Package Sources under 3rd Party Repos in System > Administration
[12:12] <kamyk> but i gat flashplayer 10 an java
[12:12] <Favorit> kamyk: flash player plugin isn't loaded it seems
[12:12] <quibbler> Aeosynth, i have not used quick search...just the search button in synaptic
[12:12] <fde> kamyk: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:12] <kamyk> ok i try
[12:12] <Sw3RvE> will it matter if im using xubuntu
[12:13] <fde> Sw3RvE: no
[12:13] <fde> Sw3RvE: wait
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: not at all, get it in lad :)
[12:13] <Sw3RvE> i installed the word processor but its 2.4
[12:13] <fde> Sw3RvE: for Xubuntu... do sudo aptitude install xubuntu-restricted-extras - cuz I don't think it uses gstreamer
[12:13] <kamyk> <fde: and restart firefox ?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> fde: wouldnt that be seen as a dep and auto installed/
[12:14] <fde> kamyk: yeah
[12:14] <kamyk> kk
[12:14] <Sw3RvE> fde your speaking japanese to me
[12:14] <Sw3RvE> im a total noob even tho i use this and yellowdog lol
[12:14] <kamyk> hehe ;)
[12:14] <mjbraun> I have a SCSI attached CD jukebox. My system drops to initramfs during boot on kernels newer than 2.6.22.14. Where should I look for help?  Is there a hardware specific mailing list I should try? The ubuntu users list couldn't help, nor could the web forums (it's an obscure problem, I'm sure).
[12:14] <fde> kamyk: well yeah, but for instance xubuntu uses listen instead of rhythmbox so you'd end up with a mess
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: you need an extra package, the command fde gave will install it, you can then follow the guide on the link I gave you to install it
[12:15] <Sw3RvE> do i type that into terminal?
[12:15] <fde> ActionParsnip: well, I'm wrong, but its still better to go with the -restricted-extras that corresponds with your subdist
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: yes
[12:15] <kamyk> fde: it;s this smae
[12:15] <groogy> Sorry to bug you again, but the package I need is: libmysqlclient15off though in 32bit, but I can't find it :(
[12:15] <fde> Sw3RvE: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-restricted-extras ... just copy and paste
[12:15] <Favorit> groogy: why would you need that in 32-bit?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> fde: if it makes it work then who cares :D
[12:16] <fde> groogy: why do you need 32bit?
[12:16] <groogy> To compile it for my server that has a 32bit architecture.
[12:16] <kamyk> fde: priv ?
[12:16] <Ermen> Hello, i have a question. What is the best browser for embedded linux
[12:16] <fde> groogy: set yourself up a 32bit chroot for such things
[12:16] <Sw3RvE> thanks!
[12:16] <fde> kamyk: no, ask the channel
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> +1 for 32bit chroot
[12:17] <Sw3RvE> now, is this going to enable all of this or just have it available for use?
[12:17] <groogy> Nah, It has worked fine with just telling gcc which architecture to use, so gcc only need a 32bit library.
[12:17] <groogy> for mysqlclient
[12:17] <fde> kamyk: are these things in about:plugins ?
[12:17] <fde> kamyk: I SAID DO NOT MESSAGE ME
[12:17] <Favorit> groogy: trust me to compile 32-bit applications in 64-bit env you do want the chroot :)
[12:17] <Favorit> groogy: otherwise you'll end up with a screwup of a binary
[12:17] <kamyk> kk
[12:18] <fde> This isn't AOL Chat ffs, I'm not your friend, I'm just trying to provide Ubuntu Support.
[12:18] <kamyk> so its this same
[12:18] <groogy> I don't care, It's ruby that's gonna run the library anyway, I only need the correct ELF format
[12:18] <kamyk> white scrren only text
[12:18] <kamyk> i have flas player 10 ad java
[12:18] <Favorit> groogy: lessee
[12:18] <fde> If you call your phone companies tech support, do you request the persons home phone number?
[12:18] <YlandeFaran> I have used the torrent client "Transmission" for some time now. But I get the notion that there should be better programs around.
[12:19] <fde> kamyk: those are listed in about:plugins ?
[12:19] <kamyk> no
[12:19] <YlandeFaran> Is there any special torrent client that anyone can recomend?
[12:19] <groogy> Favorit: I'm just a student and this is only supposed to be an engine that only I'm supposed to use for my School Project, so I don't need to be perfect.
[12:19] <fde> YlandeFaran: there are... what do you need from a torrent client though?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> !torrent
[12:19] <Favorit> groogy: yeah, sec, looking for a way for you to install 32-bit lib without fucking up the rest of the installation
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> why does torrentflux take so long to start downloading?
[12:20] <kamyk> i write in conslole
[12:20] <fde> !torrent is also Hey, you guys should replace "Azureus" with "Vuze" here as they changed their name.
[12:20] <kamyk> about:plugins
[12:20] <groogy> Favorit: Thx but the problem I'm having at the moment is to find the .deb file :P
[12:20] <YlandeFaran> fde: Oh, I don't know really. I like the idea of sharing.
[12:20] <kamyk> and i have dont' nw questions or somthing like that ;)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> kamyk: you put that in your web browser, not terminal
[12:20] <kamyk> my englisz is not perfect ;)
[12:21] <kamyk> aaa ok
[12:21] <fde> YlandeFaran: they all allow you to share, that is the point of torrents
[12:21] <Sw3RvE> why wont this package configuration let me advance
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> groogy: i gave you the link to search the repos to manually pull down the deb
[12:21] <fde> kamyk: are you using 64bit?
[12:21] <YlandeFaran> I don't need fancy colours and gizmos. I want it to be intuitive and efficient.
[12:21] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: no credits on the other side, port blocked by firewall, just bad luck with the host you want to download
[12:21] <Favorit> groogy that's not a problem, you use 8.10?
[12:21] <kamyk> Shockwave Flash
[12:21] <kamyk>     Nazwa pliku: libflashplayer.so
[12:21] <kamyk>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r15
[12:21] <kamyk> Typ MIME 	Opis 	Rozszerzenia 	Włączony
[12:21] <kamyk> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Tak
[12:21] <kamyk> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Tak
[12:21] <FloodBot2> kamyk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <groogy> ActionParsnip: The library I needed wasn't there. For some wierd reason.
[12:21] <groogy> Favorit: Yepp
[12:21] <Sw3RvE>  1.  DEFINITIONS. "Software" means the code identified above in binary     ▒
[12:21] <Sw3RvE>  │     form, any other machine readable materials including, but not         ▒
[12:21] <Sw3RvE>  │     limited to, libraries, source files, header files, and data files),
[12:22] <YlandeFaran> fde: What are the general differences between different clients then?
[12:22] <fde> Sw3RvE: you have to agree to the terms of the java license...
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> i scrolled down... do i close terminal now?
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> how?
[12:22] <fde> YlandeFaran: interface
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> i pressed Enter
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: some offer services some dont, you choose the one that suits your needs
[12:22] <fde> Sw3RvE: now it should give you the option to select yes or no?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: some have a web interface for remote torrent management, some dont. Some use java, some dont
[12:22] <Sw3RvE> it has <Ok>
[12:22] <fde> Sw3RvE: I think you have to hit tab to get to them
[12:23] <Sw3RvE> thanks, yes tab made it work.
[12:23] <Sw3RvE> i hope i have a linux class in the future. im going to itt-tech for CNS.
[12:23] <fde> YlandeFaran: I would recommend you try Vuze, see what you make of it... another popular one is Deluge, but it is very similar to Transmission
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: they all download at the same speed they just give you different controls
[12:24] <YlandeFaran> What are the biggest things I'm missing when running transmission?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: compared to what?
[12:24] <fde> YlandeFaran: depends what you compare it to... nothing really though
[12:24] <peopel123> hi
[12:24] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download2.html Sw3RvE you may find this interesting
[12:24] <fde> YlandeFaran: if you try Vuze, you'll notice a LOT missing from transmission, but it depends what you actually want out of such a tool
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> YlandeFaran: tr a few, see which you like and stick with it
[12:25] <Favorit> groogy: may i msg you the url?
[12:25] <YlandeFaran> I'll do that, probably starting with Vuse.
[12:25] <groogy> Favorit: Sure
[12:25] <YlandeFaran> Thanks for the guidance. :)
[12:25] <mick02> This is a lttle OT but has anyone got Dropbox to work with Ubuntu through a http proxy
[12:26] <groogy> Finally :D Thx Favorit
[12:26] <Sw3RvE> ok finished installing. now do i search for office 3.0?
[12:27] <kamyk> can sombody help mne ?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:27] <Favorit> groogy: no probs :)
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: you'll need a ; in there. let me retype
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <Favorit> groogy: although the prope way would be to debootstrap a 32-bit chroot :)
[12:28] <sipior> kamyk: best if you just ask your question, friend. if anyone can help, they probably will.
[12:28] <Str0g0n0ff> hi, on Network Manager how can i put an Automatic Keyring without any problems on login ?
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> i did that but
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <groogy> Favorit: Yeah I guess, but since it's just a school project and only for this: http://td.groogy.se so it's not important
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> oops
[12:28] <Sw3RvE> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:28] <Favorit> !pl | kamyk
[12:29] <Sw3RvE> is that what its supposed to say?
[12:29] <Favorit> Sw3RvE: that means you're up to date
[12:29] <Sw3RvE> ah, thanks :)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: if you have followed http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: then you are up to date, launch an OOo app
[12:30] <Sw3RvE> i didnt follow that yet... i just did what ive been told in here so far.
[12:30] <spexi> How can I change the locale in ubuntu server 8.04 without reboot?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: then thats your next jump
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> !locale | spexi
[12:32] <ramvi> [KERNEL HELP] sudo modprobe DRIVER works for me. But I have to do it on every boot. How do I have it automated?
[12:32] <fde> ramvi: throw it into /etc/modules
[12:32] <arvind_khadri> ramvi, add it to rc.local
[12:32] <Sw3RvE> alright so after doing what you guys told me to run in terminal i can now move onto the guide?
[12:32] <ramvi> fde: Didd add it to /etc/modules . Didn't help
[12:32] <arvind_khadri> ramvi, ya that too can be done... what fde said
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> ramvi: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[12:32] <fde> ramvi: do NOT do what arvind_khadri said, that is a lazy hack coming from rpm or slack systems
[12:32] <ramvi> arvind_khadri: I'll try that. Thanks!
[12:32] <spexi> seems that reboot is still required
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> ramvi: add it to the bottom of that file
[12:33] <arvind_khadri> fde, oh really?
[12:33] <fde> !rc.local
[12:33] <Favorit> euh, don't add modules to rc.local, that's just plain wrong
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> why not, it works
[12:34] <Favorit> it's bad taste
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> the /etc/modules file is awesome
[12:34] <sipior> agreed, there's already a mechanism for ensuring that modules are loaded at boot...
[12:34] <Favorit> there's a proper place to force modules load
[12:34] <fde> arvind_khadri: yeah, it is preferred to actually write an init script
[12:34] <Sw3RvE> do i leave deb on the front? ~~> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[12:34] <arvind_khadri> fde, Favorit, thanks... didnt know about it... will make a not of it
[12:34] <arvind_khadri> Sw3RvE, ya
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: yes
[12:35] <azzarev3> fde: about openkiosk, I have always the same error under kde
[12:35] <Favorit> what they said while i was typoing your nick
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: the other front you'll see is deb-src
[12:35] <Favorit> :P
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: which contain source code
[12:35] <fde> Sw3RvE: yes, if you're adding to the file itself, I think Software Sources just wants the URL though
[12:35] <fde> azzarev3: what is the error?
[12:35] <liberty> ÑÎÑÈÒÅ ÕÓÉ
[12:35] <liberty> ÕÓÉ
[12:35] <liberty> õóé
[12:35] <liberty> ïèçäà
[12:35] <bazhang> !ru
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> ok im using xunbuntu and its different from what this guide has
[12:36] <azzarev3> fde: now I compile again I give you in private
[12:36] <unimatrix9> hello every one
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> i entered the APT line
[12:36] <fde> ramvi: you can also add it to /etc/modprobe.d/anyfile ... but I don't like or recall the syntax for that...
[12:36] <bazhang> Sw3RvE, same basic ideas though
[12:36] <fde> azzarev3: no, pastebin it
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> but i dont have the button im supposed to click
[12:36] <ramvi> fde: thanks for your time :D
[12:36] <Sw3RvE> oh nevermind lol
[12:36] <unimatrix9> how can i find out on the command line if a ubuntu is 64 bit / 32 bit? lsb_release only shows the version
[12:36] <gfather> guys any recomdenatoin for a light ide ?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: uname -a
[12:37] <gfather> im on linux
[12:37] <unimatrix9> ok
[12:37] <Sw3RvE> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[12:37] <gfather> ahh wronge chat :)
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: i686 == 32bit,x86_64 == 64bit
[12:37] <req^> When is /etc/environment ran? If I have a ssh-access only server, if I change /etc/environment, will the changes be applied when I next log in via SSH?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: read the guide better
[12:37] <Sw3RvE> i got an error.
[12:37] <Sw3RvE> i did.
[12:37] <arvind_khadri> Sw3RvE, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6649356 follow this
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: it tells you how to get the key
[12:37] <fde> Sw3RvE: launchpad doesn't currently support signatures... just ignore that message and say 'y' to just doing it
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: you didnt, it tells you how to get the key and import it
[12:37] <Sw3RvE> i have new software udates available now
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: i follow this guide myself when i reinstall
[12:38] <unimatrix9> ok i see , its uname -a
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: ok so you see the output, read along, do you see i686 or x86_64?
[12:38] <unimatrix9> i686
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> unimatrix9: so you are therefore on 32bit
[12:39] <Sw3RvE> this guide does not say anything about an error...
[12:39] <jrib> Sw3RvE: does it say the word "key" anywhere?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: you need the key, it says click here to download the key somewhere
[12:39] <fde> !pastebin > azzarev5
[12:39] <Sw3RvE> oh
[12:40] <unimatrix9> do you know about kernel upgrade breaking sound , that is , system sound dont work for alsa  after that
[12:40] <fde> azzarev5: why do I want all that spewed into my IRC client?
[12:40] <arvind_khadri> Squawk, it does... read completely...
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: Right click HERE and "Save Link As..." the key file on your desktop. Go to the fourth tab, "Authentication", click the "Import Key File" button, navigate to the location were you've just saved the key file (File System/home/YOURUSERNAME/Desktop) and double click it. You will immediately see a new entry called "247D1CFF 2009-01-21 Launchpad PPA for OpenOffice.org Scribblers".
[12:40] <arvind_khadri> Squawk, sorry
[12:40] <arvind_khadri> Sw3RvE, it does
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: you arent reading it properly like i said
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/small/key
[12:40] <fde> People here are rude... ugh
[12:41] <chu_> !clone
[12:41] <chu_> !automate
[12:41] <arvind_khadri> Sw3RvE, gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys $KEY ;gpg --export --armor $KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[12:41] <chu_> !cloning
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> fde: i just hate when peopple say "it's not there it's not there" and it is
[12:41] <arvind_khadri> Sw3RvE, in place of $KEY use the key value for which you were having an error
[12:41] <Sw3RvE> ok i imported the key
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: read the page thoroughly, this isnt some microsoft install where you click next lots
[12:41] <Sw3RvE> :P
[12:42] <dayo> !routing | dayo
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: ok that will authenticate the packages as ok
[12:42] <dayo> !router | dayo
[12:42] <dayo> !firewall | dayo
[12:42] <fde> ActionParsnip: I just hate when people message you randomly... then decide to do it again when you tell them not to
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: now run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> fde: that too, unles they ask :)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: its gonna take time..its not a small app
[12:43] <Sw3RvE> now its saying im about to install software that cant be authenticated
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: see how great life is if you read?
[12:43] <Sw3RvE> in update manager
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Sw3RvE: just allow it, its fine
[12:44] <fde> ActionParsnip: I always say no when they ask... how hard can it be to just pay attention to their name being highlighted? Let the regulars worry about everything else...
[12:44] <chu_> Would the clone tool be an effective backup device I think so, but just to confirm...
[12:44] <fde> azzarev5: lol... that's not an error... you have to run 'make'
[12:44] <Sw3RvE> you just told me to read and its saying "Doing this could allow a malicious individual to damage or take control of my system."
[12:45] <azzarev5> someone can help me?
[12:45] <azzarev5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119191/
[12:45] <azzarev5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119193/
[12:45] <teresa_> hi at all
[12:45] <azzarev5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119194/
[12:45] <Hacking> FloodBot2
[12:45] <fde> azzarev5: I just told you, that isn't an error... that is telling you ./configure worked... now run 'make'
[12:45] <Hacking> what the fuck is this
[12:45] <Hacking> LOL!
[12:45] <FloodBot2> Hacking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <azzarev5> fde: can you check compile error?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> azzarev5: looks good, now run 'make' from the same place
[12:45] <Hacking> LOL
[12:45] <Hacking> fuck this
[12:46] <Hacking> fuck u all!
[12:46] <Hacking> LOL!
[12:46] <fde> azzarev5: it isn't an error...
[12:46] <FloodBot2> Hacking: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <Hacking> LOL!
[12:46] <Hacking> LOL!
[12:46] <Hacking> LOL!
[12:46] <azzarev5> ActionParnship: I did
[12:46] <chu_> :)
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> azzarev5: there isnt even a warning
[12:46] <fde> ActionParsnip: lol... check 225
[12:47] <fde> ActionParsnip: nm, he pasted a couple more in here
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> azzarev5: why are you logged in as root?
[12:48] <fde> azzarev5: it either worked, or isn't something we can assist you with... try asking the software provider.
[12:48] <azzarev5> ActionParnship: is it a wrong?
[12:48] <Sw3RvE> lol pulling his leg with op status?
[12:48] <Favorit> azzarev5: does the directory exist?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> azzarev5: to be logged in as root is wrong
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> azzarev5: I think you need to create the file /usr/local/kde/share/config/kioskclientrc
[12:49] <fde> Favorit: the script should be doing it for him
[12:49] <Favorit> fde: supposedly, if the script isn't b0rked. which is rather often the case in kde :)
[12:49] <Sw3RvE> thanks! i have open office 3.0 now. :)
[12:49] <Favorit> azzarev5: /usr/local/kde/share/config/ <- does that dir exist?
[12:50] <azzarev5> Favorit I check
[12:50] <fde> Favorit: this isn't a KDE program... its some random company providing something for KDE
[12:50] <fde> Favorit: KDE is better quality than Gnome wrt build issues
[12:50] <juxta_> I'm having a really weird problem with pptpd.. I have a server running, and clients can connect, except for one machine. That machine has no issues connecting to other, identically configured pptpd servers though. All clients are XP SP2 - any ideas?
[12:50] <keres> whenever i try to install ubuntu on my armada m300 laptop it gets to the very very first window where you choose options of install. there it just freezes.
[12:50] <Favorit> fde: depends on who's behind the packaging :)
[12:50] <scout_> hi how do i install KDE 4.2 on my ubuntu ?
[12:51] <fde> Favorit: No, gnome is just a mess to compile... which is why even the devs generally use something like jhbuild instead of doing it by hand.
[12:51] <azzarev5> Favorit: the directory at this time it doesn't exist
[12:51] <Dr_Willis64> scout_,  the topic url in #kubuntu tells you the page with the directioons
[12:51] <Favorit> fde: i've seen pretty horribly built kde software. kde isn't to blame of course, but people not knowing how to use the toolkits are just plain scary
[12:51] <bazhang> scout_, check out the instructions at kubuntu.org
[12:51] <jaggz-> can I update hoary hedgehog?
[12:51] <fde> scout_: look on kubuntu.com ... they have a new story about it.
[12:51] <jaggz-> or is it "better" to reinstall
[12:51] <bazhang> jaggz-, no
[12:51] <Favorit> azzarev5: run mkdir -p /usr/local/kde/share/config/ and re-run make install
[12:51] <jrib> jaggz-: yes, but it will probably be a lot faster to reinstall
[12:52] <scout_> bazhang, fde: thnx
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jaggz-: you'll have to upgrade to each distro up at a time
[12:52] <jaggz-> not fun
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> jaggz-: its going to be hugely faster to clean install
[12:52] <jaggz-> yeah.. and .. cleaner.
[12:52]  * Favorit mutters: let me guess, next opkdekiosk will be looking for its config not where it tries to install it now
[12:52] <bazhang> back up and then install a more recent version jaggz-
[12:52] <jrib> jaggz-: you would have to go: hoary -> breezy -> dapper -> gutsy -> intrepid
[12:52] <fde> jaggz-: you actually only have to upgrade to everything leading up to an LTS, then go from LTS to LTS
[12:52] <jaggz-> considering it was my first debian-based system and has some slop done to it.
[12:53] <jaggz-> LTS?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !lts
[12:53] <jrib> jaggz-: dapper and gutsy are the two lts releases so far
[12:53] <fde> jaggz-: you probably want to wait till Jaunty is released and fresh install with ext4 though at this point...
[12:54] <fde> jaggz-: spend the time until april-ish backing up whatever you want to keep  :)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> jrib: is hardy not lts?
[12:54] <jrib> ActionParsnip: erm, right...
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !hardy
[12:54] <Favorit> !jaunty
[12:54] <fde> !pm | fun72
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> I wanted the next one to be kill koala
[12:55] <fun72> for what use lts
[12:55] <Favorit> azzarev5: any luck?
[12:55] <azzarev5> Favorit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119196/
[12:55] <nbeebo> this comes up when trying to start a movie with vlc in cli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119195/
[12:55] <Favorit> fun72: for longer support
[12:55] <Favorit> azzarev5: looking
[12:55] <nbeebo> or any other player for that matter
[12:55] <jaggz-> any of you use projectM?
[12:55] <fde> fun72: Long Term Support ... mostly useful for servers
[12:55] <fde> fun72: and corporations
[12:56] <kavity> jaggz-: Yes.
[12:56] <fun72> ok
[12:56] <kavity> Wait...
[12:56] <kavity> Nevermind that.
[12:56] <jaggz-> Kavity, what program do you use to see the visualizations?
[12:56] <Favorit> azzarev5: err, if you don't do it as root, make it 'sudo make install' then
[12:56] <azzarev5> o yes
[12:56] <kavity> jaggz-: Sorry, I read it as "any of you use scummVM".
[12:56] <jaggz-> heh
[12:57] <unanxbt> is it possible that my keyboard can produce keystroke sounds (like we use to see in scifi movies)?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> nbeebo: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --purge remove vlc;sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:57] <Favorit> azzarev5: mkdir -p should have been ran as root as well :)
[12:57] <azzarev5> Favorit: wow no error now
[12:57] <ShackTiDe> Hi all can somebody tell me how do I put an icon of Documents on my Desktop using gconf-editor. Tried adding manually documents_icon_visible, but says This key has no schema! :( Please help
[12:57] <Favorit> azzarev5: right, well, start it up
[12:57] <Favorit> (i have no clue what you were installing, but i assume it will work) :)
[12:57] <fde> ActionParsnip: uhh, you realize that if you --purge, the package manager will not reinstall the config files?
[12:57] <_gridcomputing_> Is it possible to share an X session over ssh?
[12:57] <fde> _gridcomputing_: ssh -X
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> nbeebo: just clears out old the old fluff as well as the old vlc and installs a new one from repos
[12:57] <Favorit> _gridcomputing_: share? tunnel, you mean?
[12:58] <ShackTiDe> according to gnome documents_icon_visible true should work :(
[12:58] <_gridcomputing_> fde
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> fde: only the configs not in ~/ wil be removed
[12:58] <nbeebo> ActionParsnip, thanks but i forgot to mention i get these errors wth mplayer ubuntus movie player etc
[12:58] <_gridcomputing_> fde: Yes, but I mean share between two ssh logins
[12:58] <fde> _gridcomputing_: umm, I think you want VNC.....
[12:58] <Favorit> _gridcomputing_: you want 2 people to see the same screen?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> fde: when the app is reinstalled the new configs will be installed as there is no history of the app ever being on the system
[12:59] <Favorit> _gridcomputing_: then what fde said.
[12:59] <_gridcomputing_> fde: Yes VNC work well. Yes I want 2 People seeing the same screen or some windows
[12:59] <fde> _gridcomputing_: there is distributed ssh, but I am not knowledgeable about it.
[12:59] <Favorit> _gridcomputing_: NC is your best shot then
[12:59] <Favorit> VNC that is
[12:59] <fde> ActionParsnip: still, randomly telling people to purge when you know they're reinstalling it after is plain dumb
[13:00] <Boohbah> _gridcomputing_: i would also look at FreeNX. it's very efficient
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> fde: its not as malformed config can cause issues. It just a good way of pulling the entirety of the app out of the system
[13:00] <_gridcomputing_> fde: OK VNC is great
[13:00] <fde> ActionParsnip: then remove the configs in ~/. which apt will never touch... do NOT have them remove system configs via purge
[13:01] <unanxbt> is it possible that my keyboard can produce keystroke sounds (like we use to see in scifi movies)?
[13:01] <_gridcomputing_> Favorit: I have googled it
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> fde: they could be faulty, and fresh new ones will show that is the case or not, either way its far from dumb
[13:01] <fde> ActionParsnip: they do NOT come back without a complex method of restoring md5sums...
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> fde: stock/default ones will though
[13:02] <fde> ActionParsnip: NO THEY WON'T
[13:02] <Cpudan80> Hey guys
[13:02] <Favorit> dude, release that shift pedal
[13:02] <Favorit> you don't have to yell
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> fde: ive never had an issue with it, Ive always done it this way
[13:02] <fde> Favorit: he isn't comprehending in small text
[13:02] <Cpudan80> Got a problem with my Ubuntu 8.10 -- The automounter for USB sticks doesnt work
[13:02] <Cpudan80> It comes up and says "cannot mount [key name], root privileges required"
[13:02] <ikonia> Cpudan80: few people have been having this problem latley
[13:02] <fde> ActionParsnip: I've been using Debian-based for 12 years, and I can assure you you'd have issues.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Cpudan80: does the partition show up in sudo fdisk -l
[13:02] <Favorit> fde: well, he's got a point. what's the problem with wiping system configs for application that you're willing to reinstall fresh?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> fde: i dont care. I'm calling it as I see it
[13:03] <Cpudan80> ActionParsnip: ikonia Yeah it all works ok if I plug it in then do sudo mount -a
[13:03] <bazhang> !ot
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> fde: its worked for me so its what I advise userd
[13:03] <bazhang> take it to offtopic room please
[13:03] <Cpudan80> ikonia: So people have been having the mount permissions error?
[13:03] <fde> Favorit: dpkg will not restore the configs unless you restore md5sums to what the package expects... it remembers that you didn't want them, and keeps them gone.
[13:03] <nbeebo> this comes up when trying to start a movie with vlc or any other move player for that matter in cli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119195/
[13:03] <cableroy> hi, i have problems getting my nvidia 7800gtx to display with dvi cable, vga works great, google didn't give me a good answer to this, anyone got suggetions?
[13:04] <ikonia> Cpudan80: a few people have menionted it yes
[13:04] <scout_> is it possible to revert a installation of packages ?
[13:04] <ikonia> Cpudan80: almost as if the disk can't be mounted in user space
[13:04] <unimatrix9> how would the command be to reinstall alsa ?
[13:04] <Cpudan80> ikonia: Yeah, that sounds like what Ive got
[13:04] <Nukuntu> How
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> scout_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[13:04] <Nukuntu> HEY Guys
[13:05] <Cpudan80> ikonia: It hasnt really worked since ehh 8.04
[13:05] <Nukuntu> Can i adjust the Antialiasing in Ubuntu 810 +
[13:05] <scout_> i've just installed kde 4.2, and just want to know if there is some way of uninstalling all of the packages that were install, easily :)
[13:05] <Nukuntu> ?
[13:05] <ikonia> Cpudan80: really, thats a big change
[13:05] <ikonia> Cpudan80: what filel system is on the key ?
[13:05] <scout_> ActionParsnip: i meant revert, not reinstall
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> scout_: you'd have to uninstall kde4 and install whatever you had before
[13:05] <fde> unimatrix9: sudo aptitude reinstall linux-sound-base (and alsa-utils and alsa-base)
[13:05] <Cpudan80> ikonia: FAT
[13:06] <Cpudan80> ikonia: maybe FAT32, I think one of the suckers was 4GB
[13:06] <ikonia> Cpudan80: super odd
[13:06] <Favorit> fde: umm, may I have a reference to that information you just shared? that purge keeps memory of configs that you didnt' want
[13:06] <ikonia> Cpudan80: what happens if you try to mount it manually
[13:06] <unimatrix9> okey, then it would be sudo apt-get reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-utils alsa base right?
[13:06] <fde> !info uck
[13:06] <Cpudan80> ikonia: yeah ... has anyone mentioned a fix?
[13:06] <fde> Guess that is new in jaunty
[13:07] <ikonia> Cpudan80: nope, think it needs some digging
[13:07] <rio> how to mount network filesystems automaticly after bringing network up?
[13:07] <azzarev5> Favorit: i don't find the command to start openkiosk :(
[13:07] <Cpudan80> ikonia: OK - well - I'll poke around
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> fde: if you can find a credible source to back up what you say I'll believe you
[13:07] <Cpudan80> ikonia: thanks for the info
[13:07] <Favorit> azzarev5: /usr/local/kde/bin/opkdeopenkiosk or so?
[13:07] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I will too, as in the past week or so a few people have mentioned it, so clearly something more than user error here
[13:07] <azzarev5> i try
[13:08] <bazhang> fde, the uck is under !remaster
[13:08] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me get my internal mic working?
[13:08] <Cpudan80> ikonia: alright, well if you find anything just send me a pm, I'll be around
[13:08] <Cpudan80> ikonia: I'll ping you if I find somethin useful
[13:09] <ikonia> Cpudan80: please do
[13:09] <fde> bazhang: been looking for the correct factoid all day... heh, thanks
[13:10] <Favorit> fde: cuz I'm looking at current source of dpkg, and I can't find any reference to changing any states about the purged package. Moreover, it even removes references to versions that were installed to completely wipe any information, so the config files will be just reinstalled from the original during reinstallation
[13:10] <fde> ActionParsnip: lol... just search google for phrases like 'debian won't restore config files after purge'
[13:10] <Cpudan80> ikonia: for what its worth, when the thing actually gets mounted, it goes to /media/usb
[13:11] <chu_> batteries batteries batteries!!!!
[13:11] <fde> Favorit: the dpkg bot appears to suggest that they have changed policy to rectify the situation, so I would guess the code echoes this
[13:11] <bernz> cableroy, have you tried using a VGA cable? what it lacks in "cutting edge" it makes up for with "field tested/proven" (i use a VGA cable from my mediabox to my LCD, works great at 1920x1080)
[13:12] <azzarev5> Favorit: sorry but I am really newbie. which is the command to execute the program?
[13:12] <Favorit> fde: well, the exact point of purge is to _remove_ the even customized configs, so that if you reinstall you'll get stock configuration. so of course it won't restore anything
[13:12] <Favorit> azzarev5: lemme have a look at your paste, sec
[13:12] <fde> Favorit: in #debian-bots ... type !xorgmd5 ... it used to state a very common scenario that would serve as example... lots of people would remove xorg.conf and have it not come back due to policy
[13:12] <ikonia> Cpudan80: so it does get auto mounted sometimes?
[13:12] <illumin8> Would having too large of a swap partion effect performance?
[13:12] <Favorit> azzarev5: /usr/local/kde/bin/kiosksetup <- i suppose this would be a good place to start
[13:12] <Dr_Willis64> illumin8,  not really
[13:13] <Cpudan80> ikonia: no, but if I do sudo mount -a after I get the little permissions error box, it goes to /media/usb
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> fde: mepis.org use purge on their site for open office upgrades
[13:13] <Favorit> azzarev5: otherwise I'd read the documentation on the software you're trying to install
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> fde: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/OpenOffice.org:_Upgrade_from_2.02_to_2.2
[13:13] <bernz> illumin8, not really, unless you are running software that tries to allocate insane amounts of memory, and you end up spending most CPU cycles swapping
[13:13] <ikonia> Cpudan80: is it in your /etc/fstab ?
[13:13] <fde> Favorit: used to have examples of it every single day in #debian
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> fde: I cant find anything so far
[13:13] <azzarev5> Favorit: I found it bue which the command to execute it?
[13:13] <fde> ActionParsnip: I don't care about mepis
[13:13] <Cpudan80> ikonia: nope
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> fde: its debian based :)
[13:13] <ikonia> Cpudan80: really, so it mounts with a mount -a even though it's not in your /etc/fstab ?
[13:14] <bernz> illumin8, unless you are editing videos or MASSIVE, hi-rez photos, you won't notice, but it's a waste of otherwise-usable storage space
[13:14] <Cpudan80> ikonia: Even if I did like, sudo echo "I need root for a sec", then plugged it in -- it would work
[13:14] <illumin8> bernz, reason i ask is because i had a 3gb swap earlier today and ubuntu seemed more responsive, now its a tad larger (because of a default install) and its slightly slower. Perhaps its just my perception though
[13:14] <Favorit> fde: I think we're talking about the same thing from a different perspective. but anyway.
[13:14] <ikonia> Cpudan80: out of interest, could you pastebin your /etc/fstab I have a thought in my head, it's doubtful, but possible
[13:15] <baaba> how would i go about diagnosing a problem where after installing nvidia-glx-177, my monitor turns off when x starts running on tty7?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis64> illumin8,  how much ram ya got?  I rarely touch the swap partitions at all on my 2+gb ram systems
[13:15] <fde> ActionParsnip: doesn't mean they follow debian policy
[13:15] <bernz> illumin8, yes, unless you've measured some specific tasks (there's a CLI way to do this), your gut will often tell you the pessimistic thing ("it's slower") when nothing's really changed ;-)
[13:15] <baaba> if i switch ttys to any other one, i get an image
[13:15] <bernz> (by measured, i mean 'timed')
[13:15] <illumin8> Dr_Willis64, 2gb of ram
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> fde: doesnt meanubuntu does then either surely
[13:16] <fde> Favorit: note that the "xorg.conf will be overritten regardless" of the dpkg output suggests that didn't used to be the case.
[13:16] <baaba> and also without the nvidia drivers things work fine
[13:16] <Cpudan80> ikonia: sure
[13:16] <ikonia> Cpudan80: thanks
[13:16] <baaba> and Xorg.0.log shows no errors or warnings
[13:16] <bernz> baaba, most other TTYs (by default) are text-mode, which is widely supported by most hardware (though my TV can't do certain weird low resolutions even in text mode)
[13:16] <Favorit> fde: ok, i have about 20,000 sarge machines at hand, rather ancient, let me make a small test :)
[13:16] <fde> ActionParsnip: sure, except that Ubuntu hired the apt-get and dpkg developers
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> fde: I even looked for 'apt-get --purge is bad'
[13:16] <Cpudan80> ikonia: there is a USB key that I have in there -- but thats a different ball game
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> fde: nothing
[13:16] <ikonia> Cpudan80: understood
[13:16] <ikonia> understood
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> fde: theres nothing to backup what you say
[13:17] <fde> Favorit: just purge xorg and reinstall it... easy
[13:17] <bernz> baaba, how did you install your nvidia drivers? "fancy" video drivers can cause lots of problems, and often need special builds
[13:17] <baaba> bernz: yeah, i'm looking for hints on how to diagnose why the nvidia driver causes tty7 to just give no image to the monitor at all
[13:17] <Favorit> fde: trick would be to find a server with X :) i'll test it on some smaller package
[13:17] <keres> whenever i try to install ubuntu on my armada m300 laptop it gets to the very very first window where you choose options of install. there it just freezes.
[13:17] <baaba> bernz: on top of a fresh 8.10 with the driver wizard tray popup thing
[13:17] <illumin8> Dr_Willis64, Yes, 2gb of physical ram, but the swap is the default ubuntu swap of 5.5gb space, being its also allocated as swap for the other 7 Oses i have on the system i wanted to be sure big isnt going to be a big issue :)
[13:18] <bangalibabu> # modprobe usb-storage
[13:18] <bangalibabu> # modprobe usbserial
[13:18] <Cpudan80> ikonia: http://www.pastebin.ca/1340000
[13:18] <Dr_Willis64> illumin8,  watch out for using hiberbate./suspend :) one of those can suspend to swap.. (i never use either)
[13:18] <Cpudan80> neat post #
[13:18] <bernz> baaba, first thing to check, probably, is whether your display can handle whatever resolution X is trying to use (timings of video); does your display say "invalid format" or "no signal" or any other hint that suggests the video card is outputting "junk"?
[13:18] <Cpudan80> 1M 340 Thou
[13:18] <baaba> no, it just goes into power saving mode
[13:19] <ikonia> Cpudan80: which is your usb key in /etc/fstab
[13:19] <bernz> baaba, oh yeah, that often happens when there's no useable signal
[13:19] <illumin8> Dr_Willis64, im not a fan of standby on computers, they are in one of 3 modes for me, off, on and in use or on and in screensaver :)
[13:19] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I think I undestand the problem
[13:19] <Cpudan80> ikonia: sdc1
[13:19] <fde> Favorit: Also, you'd be looking at the source code for ucf not apt-get or dpkg... it is ucf that doesn't allow them to restore the file
[13:19] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ok - I think I have it
[13:19] <Cpudan80> ikonia: but thats a big key that I mount a lot
[13:19] <ikonia> Cpudan80: not %100 why - but I understand the issue
[13:19] <bangalibabu> # modprobe usb-storage
[13:19] <bangalibabu> # modprobe usbserial
[13:19] <bangalibabu> how can i use this command on terminal to detect my modem?
[13:19] <ikonia> Cpudan80: is the other key (the one you mount a lot) in the system now ?
[13:19] <Cpudan80> ikonia: nope
[13:19] <Favorit> fde: for ucf to not to allow something it first has to be informed of policy change and dpkg has no code like that
[13:19] <baaba> so i guess i should set up something in xorg.conf for the monitor after installing the driver
[13:20] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ok - we have a winner
[13:20] <keres> whenever i try to install ubuntu on my armada m300 laptop it gets to the very very first window where you choose options of install. there it just freezes.
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> fde: i'm just going by my day to day install, uninstall, reinstall activitys and ive had zero issues
[13:20] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I'll go through this step by step, as it can get complex
[13:20] <Cpudan80> ikonia: but I only put the other key in there because it wouldnt auto mount (same permissions error)
[13:20] <fde> Favorit: uhh, yes it does... else how does it keep track of 'rc' state?
[13:20] <baaba> does the nvidia driver come with a command-line configuration utility? :)
[13:20] <bernz> baaba, you'll *probably* need to look at your X config (usually /etc/X11/xorg.conf IIRC), and you can manually edit your default/active resolution; try something "well-known", like 1024x768. because odds are good the driver was trying for something higher/fancier
[13:20] <Cpudan80> ikonia: fire away!
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> keres: did you md5 check the iso you downloded as well as verify the cd yo burned was ok?
[13:20] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ok - the permissions error - thats unknown at this moment, but it's partly making sense
[13:20] <ikonia> Cpudan80: you've got a hardcoded entry in /etc/fstab that's based on a device name rather than a UUID
[13:20] <fde> ActionParsnip: you didn't even know about -p for mkdir though, so I'm not sure how reliable such things are coming from you.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> fde: im sure theres a few commands I know that you dont
[13:21] <illumin8> ikonia, isnt fstab based on both
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> fde: its what makes the world go round
[13:21] <Favorit> fde: pkg->installed.conffiles = NULL; modstatdb_note(pkg); this means it _zeroes_ config files for that package :)
[13:21] <keres> ActionParsnip: yes. and the CD inegrity check was also good
[13:21] <Favorit> fde: to deny config file installation it would have to keep the names.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> keres: good
[13:21] <ikonia> Cpudan80: when you put your key in, you get the permissions problem (odd), however when you do a mount -a hal sees your usb device as a new disk, assigns it a device file (next in the list would be /dev/sdc) and as you have an entry based on /dev/sdc1 - it mounts what ever device is on /dev/sdc
[13:21] <ikonia> illumin8: yes it is
[13:21] <ikonia> Cpudan80: does that make sense for why mount -a works ?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> keres: i'd try some boot options then
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | keres
[13:22] <Cpudan80> ikonia: sure
[13:22] <Favorit> fde: src/remove.c line 517-518
[13:22] <Cpudan80> ikonia: so remove the sdc line?
[13:22] <DStrevinas> Hello, has anyone came across a GPS traffic emulator?
[13:22] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ok, so that looks like a red herring, if you put that link as a uuid rather than a device file, I bet your current key won't work, but your big regular one does
[13:22] <ikonia> Cpudan80: have I explained that ok ?
[13:22] <Cpudan80> yeah
[13:23] <Cpudan80> makes sense
[13:23] <Cpudan80> So if I just remove the sdc line?
[13:23] <fde> Favorit: lol... install any random package, then remove it... aptitude search it... it'll still have rc status... you can't take that away afaik, aptitude always knows about that package now...
[13:23] <ikonia> Cpudan80: yeah, change it to a uuid
[13:23] <illumin8> thats a pretty smooth work around
[13:23] <Cpudan80> right right yeah
[13:23] <fde> Favorit: compare that to the same package not installed... obviously it is keeping track of it somewhere
[13:23] <bernz> baaba, if you are able to uninstall whatever nvidia driver you already installed, you might then want to install the text-only 'envyng', and use it text-mode (in one of your working TTYs) to install nvidia drivers; it does a *lot* of the tedium, and i had good success with it for my ATI card (it supports ATI and NVIDIA)
[13:23] <illumin8> force the system to see uuid instead of allocation
[13:23] <Cpudan80> ikonia: ok well I cant test it till after work, but I'll report back
[13:23] <illumin8> smart :)
[13:24] <ikonia> Cpudan80: please do, I'll keep looking at the permissions issue
[13:24] <fde> Favorit: (pretty sure its in /var/lib/dpkg/info)
[13:24] <Cpudan80> ikonia: so you think it'll mount ok but still give the perms error?
[13:25] <prince_jammys> fde: it seems that packages have to ensure that ucf knows to purge the conf once the package is purged (this from man ucf). perhaps what you're describing was a bug in certain packages' postrm scripts?
[13:25] <bernz> DStrevinas, nope, but it sounds like it would be worth a lot of money to someone developing a GPS product :-D sorry, i don't know of one
[13:25] <prince_jammys> fde: else it's believed to still be in the system and doesn't get created on reinstall
[13:25] <Favorit> fde: but that's solely a "feature" of aptitude that has nothing to do with the actual working of dpkg. if you reinstall the package with dpkg (bypassing all frontent intelligence) all the configs will be in place.
[13:25] <fde> prince_jammys: it is certainly not a bug, its just that a lot of people run into the negative aspects of it.
[13:26] <nemo__> goodbye all !
[13:26] <Favorit> fde: i'm looking at dpkg install functions in source now - it doesn't give a flying f*ck about previous package state unless it was half-installed
[13:26] <fde> Favorit: aptitude just reads what libapt tells it... apt-get's output is just less informative.
[13:26] <ikonia> Cpudan80: nah, I think it will still complain
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119201/
[13:26] <fde> Favorit: can do the same via dpkg -l
[13:26] <Cpudan80> hmm ok
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> fde: works PERFECTLY with tuxeyes
[13:27] <Favorit> fde: that's where you're wrong, let me paste
[13:27] <Favorit> fde http://paste.ubuntu.com/119203/
[13:27] <fde> ActionParsnip: uhh... dpkg -L tuxeyes | grep etc ... I doubt tuxeyes has system wide config files
[13:27] <dayo> can someone please help with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119202/
[13:28] <Dr_Willis64> dayo,  its a good idea to at least summarize the problem along with the paste
[13:28] <Favorit> dayo: replace /255.0.0.0 with /8
[13:28] <baaba> bernz: thanks i'll try that in a bit
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> fde: none, bad test
[13:28] <drayen> hey all
[13:28] <Favorit> dayo: in the first command
[13:28] <Favorit> fde: I just showed to you that dpkg doesn't remember the purged state, while aptitude does.
[13:28] <travian_geek> is there a commando for listing information about other computers in a LAN? Like ip dns osv
[13:29] <jillian_> hi guys...i'm still a bit new to ubuntu..i recently upgraded to 8.10 and I need to know how to get my system to recognize my camera and webcam.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Favorit: cheers man, better test :)
[13:29] <bernz> baaba, okay, good luck... once you get your video card driver going, you'll need to tweak various settings on your media players (e.g. "direct rendering" and stuff like that)
[13:29] <fde> Favorit: uhh the p means present... available but not installed... so how does that prove anything?
[13:29] <dayo> Favorit: it worked. thanks!
[13:29] <Kingsy102> I have ubuntu lite or u-lite installed on my laptop, can I get it to run an interface?
[13:29] <dayo> Dr_Willis64: i'm trying to set up a static route
[13:29] <drayen> I'm religated to the command line atm, as i just updated a few packages and it crashed mid update. i've tried "apt-get update" but, its telling me i need to run "dpkg --configure -a" which i do, get no output then re run "apt-get update" only to get the same error. Any ideas?
[13:29] <fde> Favorit: that tells me you've never installed that package
[13:29] <Dr_Willis64> Kingsy102,  install a desktop/windowmanager and X? Neve rheard of ubuntu lite.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy102: sudo apt-get install fluxbox if you want something light, or sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop
[13:30] <Favorit> fde: right, let me paste you whole test. Apparently you don't even know your favorite tool
[13:30] <dayo> Favorit Dr_Willis64: when i reboot, the route's gone, right? how do i make it stay
[13:30] <DStrevinas> bernz: Is it possible to use a Windows GPS emulator with WINE and capture data from the virtual serial port it creates? In particular, is there a mapping between a serial port a windows program pouts data in, and the associated linux /dev/something?
[13:30] <bernz> travian_geek, not exactly, but you probably want some sort of security tool which can ping a sequence of IPs
[13:30] <Dr_Willis64> dayo,  no idea. proberly a setting file.. or 'cheat' and put the commands in /etc/rc.local I guess :)
[13:30] <sjhstorm> ls
[13:30] <sjhstorm> hi
[13:30] <Dr_Willis64> I put way too much stuff in rc.local
[13:30] <travian_geek> drayen, google it. I had that problem. I think it was someting with my host file
[13:30] <bernz> travian_geek, basically, ping each machine number in turn in your subnet -- but beware, machines can choose not to respond to ping (or other ICMP) for many reasons, some trivial/stupid
[13:31] <InCrypto> using wine 2 install IE6 and i get the "download location information is corrupted .PLease clear ur IE cache to retry setup
[13:31] <InCrypto> anyone have a clue about this ?
[13:31] <fde> InCrypto: #winehq
[13:31] <Favorit> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119205/
[13:31] <Favorit> fde: tehre
[13:31] <Favorit> there, even
[13:31] <drayen> travian_geek, interesting, been trying to, what terms did you google?
[13:31] <stasiek> hi
[13:31] <bernz> DStrevinas, in theory, it sounds reasonable, but i've never tried something even similar :-/
[13:31] <illumin8> InCrypto, doesnt wine-doors also have IE installable?
[13:31] <travian_geek> bernz, how do I ping an IP i dont know?
[13:31] <DStrevinas> bernz: Thank you very much
[13:31] <cwillu> fde, grep Status /var/lib/dpkg/status may or may not help your cause, I've only been paying a small amount of attention
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> fde: looks like some weird aptitude thing
[13:32] <jillian_> how do i get ubuntu 8.10 to recognize my webcam and camera
[13:32] <travian_geek> drayen, I cant remember. Try that error message + host
[13:32] <Kingsy102> after you have instaled fluxbox how do you get it to run?
[13:32] <jillian_> it says no camera detected
[13:32] <drayen> travian_geek: k, trying now....
[13:32] <cwillu> Favorit, check the listed status for aoeui in /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | jillian_
[13:32] <bernz> travian_geek, that's the point -- you need to hope that however the network was originally configured, either most members use DHCP (and so you can too, to find out the gateway), or you need a hint for the subnet (very typically 192.168.1.x for home LANs)
[13:33] <jillian_> thank you..i'll check it out
[13:33] <bernz> travian_geek, and once you have that, you ping 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2, ... for that whole subnet
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fde: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s02s02.html
[13:33] <illumin8> Kingsy102, log out then change your session to fluxbox then log in, i suggest to select "this time only" at the popup in case you dislike it.
[13:33] <Favorit> dayo: add this line to your interface configuration: post-up /etc/network/if-up.d/routes.sh
[13:33] <travian_geek> bernz, o shit:P thats gooing to take ages!
[13:33] <liqingsong> ho
[13:33] <Kingsy102> how do you logout and change the session?
[13:33] <Favorit> dayo: add the route commands there
[13:33] <bernz> travian_geek, if you have no starting point, you'll have to go for more low-level approach, like traffic sniffing -- install 'wireshark' on a working box that can join the LAN you want to work on
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> p - The package and all its configuration files were removed, or the package was was never 			installed.
[13:33] <KDB9000> How can I have Ubuntu auto mount an external NTFS hard drive? It keeps failing and I have to put the command in manually to get it to mount. I tried adding it to fstab and when I plugged it in, it said I don't have the permissions to mount the drive. NTFS-config doesn't see my external (but it does see the internals.
[13:33] <Favorit> cwillu: sec
[13:34] <Kingsy102> illumin8 - sorry i am a bit of a noob
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> fde: making it fully installable again
[13:34] <liqingsong> what
[13:34] <fde> cwillu: some what, it does... but this is getting tired... I've only been encountering this stuff for 12 years... I used to tinker a lot, and until I found out about restoring md5sums, I used to reinstall if it wouldn't give me back for instance an smb.conf
[13:34] <bazhang> !cn | liqingsong
[13:34] <illumin8> KingOfDos, click the large red power button on the top right of your screen and choose logout. session button will also be there at the login screen
[13:34] <bernz> travian_geek, actually, if the subnet is smallish, it's surprisingly fast, because a ping/pong sequence only takes milliseconds, or a second at most to be considered a timeout (for local)
[13:34] <Favorit> cwillu: not presetn
[13:34] <cwillu> Favorit, after apt-get installing/purging, that file shows "Status: purge ok not-installed" for aoeui
[13:34] <Dr_Willis64> KDB9000,  there is the 'user' and 'users' option for fstab entries that may be needed..  or check out the 'ntfs-config' tool to enable users mounting them
[13:34] <andatche> ye
[13:34] <Favorit> cwillu: want a paste from grep?
[13:34] <liqingsong> ph
[13:34] <bernz> DStrevinas, good luck!  if you have success, be sure to post about it somewhere ;-)
[13:35] <travian_geek> I know the subnet so can i just type ping 192.168.0.x
[13:35] <cwillu> Favorit, open the file, it's not grepable like that :p
[13:35] <KDB9000> Dr_Willis64, ntfs-config tool only see my internal, not my external (yes, the drive is plugged in)
[13:35] <Kingsy102> illumin8 - so how do you logout and start a new session with fluxbox?
[13:35] <Favorit> cwillu: oh, wait my bad, typoed the crappy packagename :)
[13:35] <cwillu> Favorit, less /var/lib/dpkg/status, and then /aoeui<enter>
[13:35] <Dr_Willis64> KDB9000,  it should have a 'checkbox' option to allow users to mount the externals - if i recall correctly
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> fde: looks like my "no knowledge" wins over you12 years tout
[13:35] <fde> cwillu: now, of course, most of my tastes are pretty set in stone, so I don't encounter it as much - if ever...
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> fde: you dont have to apologise
[13:35] <cwillu> Favorit, I was about to smack you for choosing such an annoying to type name :p
[13:35] <bernz> travian_geek, wireshark is a network traffic analyzer (AKA "sniffer") which will let you inspect the data on your LAN in a pretty raw way, but with nice filters to make sense of it too
[13:36] <Favorit> cwillu: that was the first one to show up on apt-cache search asdf ;)
[13:36] <m41n1> Hello
[13:36] <Dr_Willis64> KDB9000,  but using the fstab may bypass/disable that feature.. you normally use one  way, or the other.. fstab miught be making hal ignore it.
[13:36] <travian_geek> how do i start it
[13:36] <m41n1> a simple question
[13:36] <Favorit> cwillu: yeah, you're right about the state, that's correct.
[13:36] <KDB9000> Dr_Willis64, It doesn't show up. all that is in there are my internal NTFS hard drives. (sda1 and sda2 I believe) my external is sdb1
[13:36] <m41n1> I have conection to the internet throught a proxy
[13:36] <travian_geek> bernz, how do i start it?
[13:36] <bernz> travian_geek, with it, you might be able to notice stuff like ARP packets which are basically asking "hey, is this address in use?  can i use this? can someone else hear me?" (not exactly like DHCP, but similar)
[13:36] <m41n1> i set it up in the Proxy Settings
[13:36] <fde> ActionParsnip: no... I just give up arguing... all you've said is you don't see it, cool... at least you know now what went wrong if a user comes back to you saying a config file is gone
[13:36] <bernz> travian_geek, probably something like 'sudo apt-get install wireshark' from a command prompt (CLI)
[13:36] <m41n1> and Firefox works, but i can't access the internet or ping in the terminal
[13:37] <m41n1> do you know why?
[13:37] <fde> ActionParsnip: luckily the people that will encounter it most will ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> fde: well i know why they are gone, thats what purge is for
[13:37] <bernz> travian_geek, and then it'll be available under your 'applications' menu on the desktop, or from the CLI, you can probably just type 'wireshark'
[13:37] <travian_geek> bernz, is it GUI?
[13:37] <fde> ActionParsnip: and why they won't come back when installing again*
[13:37] <prince_jammys> fde: i don't know why you're rulling out the ucf problem i mentioned. i see a lot of bug reports for packages that fail to take care of that when purged, so the conf files don't get created on reinstall.
[13:37] <dayo> Favorit: i need to create /etc/network/if-up.d/routes.sh  ?
[13:37] <prince_jammys> fde: ruling out, it meant.
[13:37] <Favorit> nod dayo
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> fde: i doubt it but hey thats what makes the world go round
[13:37] <bernz> travian_geek, yep, it's gui-oriented (though the libs it uses could allow usage from text-mode/terminal/headless/API-only-access)
[13:37] <Favorit> umm, damn, mud habits :D
[13:37] <Favorit> dayo: yes
[13:38] <Dr_Willis64> KDB9000,  try commenting out the fstab line you made for tha textternal drive.. and rerun ntfs-config,  enable both check box's and perhaps reboot? I dont have  a external ntfs handy to check.
[13:38] <illumin8> Kingsy102, please read your private messages
[13:38] <Workk1> Pici,
[13:38] <Dr_Willis64> bbl
[13:38] <cwillu> fde, sorry, you didn't just say that the default config files won't be reinstalled after you purge, did you?
[13:38] <Workk1> Pici,  i've got that xchat
[13:38] <KDB9000> Dr_Willis64, fstab is what it normally is (removed my edit) and ntfs-config still doesn't see the drive. I still get the error message when I plug it in (the one about the logs saying it is already mounted and to unmount in windows and how to do it manually)
[13:38] <fde> prince_jammys: I think you're misinterpreting the issue though... the postrm script could be wrong also, but postinst will be what has checked to see if the user has removed the file or changed it.
[13:38] <dayo> Favorit: and what do i put in routes.sh?
[13:38] <travian_geek> bernz, wireshark in CLI just gives me: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[13:38] <mk13> klk
[13:39] <bernz> travian_geek, if you have the luxury of a spare router, and a laptop on which you can run wireshark, connect only the router to your laptop via one of the "client" ports on the router (1, 2, 3, ... -- not WLAN)
[13:39] <Favorit> dayo: #!/bin/bash
[13:39]  * cwillu goes back to his tower defense game
[13:39] <letalis> once wireshark is installed, itll be in the internet menu if you use gnome
[13:39] <Workk1> Hi evey 1
[13:39] <bernz> travian_geek, you might need to launch it from the desktop/GUI then
[13:39] <Favorit> dayo: /sbin/route ... and the rest of your route command
[13:39] <Workk1> Favorit, i need your help
[13:39] <dayo> Favorit: ok, thanks
[13:39] <marlock> hi
[13:39] <Favorit> Workk1: euh, explicitly mine?
[13:39] <Workk1> actually its important about xchat
[13:40] <Workk1> i need to know about current on going processes in Ubuntu
[13:40] <bernz> travian_geek, if you have just a PC connected as a LAN client on the router, you'll eliminate "noise" of real network traffic; then, try a bit of stuff (ping, etc) and observe to learn; once you're familiar with wireshark, use it on the mystery LAN you're trying to document
[13:40] <Daniel_G> chaps, instead of writing it all out here, can you have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1072230 and tell me what you think?
[13:40] <Workk1> like in windows through task manager you know what's currently running
[13:40] <marlock> i noticed that my write speed on the HD is less than 5MB/s ... i've installed ubuntu with WUBI
[13:40] <marlock> what can i do?
[13:40] <Workk1> how to know about such things in Ubuntu?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Workk1: top
[13:40] <fde> Workk1: to just see what is running... ps -e
[13:40] <travian_geek> bernz, I have a spare router! :P But I cant find the program in my menys! and I cant start it through CLI
[13:40] <Favorit> Workk1: type "ps axuw" to see the list of processes, otherwise use top
[13:41] <Workk1> what's top???
[13:41] <fde> Workk1: in a GUI, there is gnome-system-monitor or ksysguard also
[13:41] <illumin8> !chmod | KDB9000
[13:41] <Workk1> well how to access that ????
[13:41] <fde> Workk1: define "that"
[13:41] <Workk1> where to type that command in command prompt or what?
[13:41] <cocroach> how to set samba with windows network???
[13:41] <fde> Workk1: yes
[13:41] <cwillu> Workk1, open a terminal and type 'top'
[13:41] <Favorit> cwillu: You see, I just went through dpkg sources again for the installation and removal causes. state "purge" is being checked only in a) case of want_purge, and b) only on removal
[13:42] <Workk1> ok let me try.. wait(hold on)
[13:42] <KDB9000> illumin8, I already know how ubuntu organizes it's files, that isn't my problem
[13:42] <fde> cocroach: it should be working out of the box... Places > Network > Windows Network and browse around?
[13:42] <cwillu> Favorit, I wasn't following the discussion at all, I was just noting that dpkg does track purge state
[13:42] <Favorit> cwillu: Really, util someone shoves the source line that blocks config installation in _dpkg_, not in its frontends after purging, I really can't find any evidence.
[13:42] <blackjak> hello guys
[13:42] <fde> cocroach: to share stuff, just right click and say "Share file" ... it will install things like samba itself.
[13:42] <Favorit> cwillu: well, fde claims that once you purge a package with system-wide configs, reinstalling it won't install stock configs anymore
[13:43] <Workk1> ok i got it fde , cwillu , Favorit
[13:43] <mikeshollen> Would Ubuntu receive substantial performance increases on a solid state drive compared to a 7200 RPM?  It's already very fast with the standard drive for me.
[13:43] <Workk1> yesterday i installed tor for ubuntu
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Favorit: i'm with you buddy
[13:43] <cwillu> fde, yes, after a purge, reinstalling the package will install the default configs
[13:43] <Favorit> mikeshollen: yes
[13:43] <blackjak> could anyone help with setting network manager to its original state?
[13:43] <m41n1> Does anyone know why it could access the internet with firefox but not with the terminal/konsole? I am using a proxy that is set in the System->Preference->Network Proxy. And FF has set the option of using the system's proxy
[13:43] <mikeshollen> Favorit: Do you have one?
[13:43] <Workk1> but after install, i got its icon
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: yes, the seek time is significantly less
[13:43] <Favorit> mikeshollen: although I'd avoud setting partitions that require heavy write access on SSD
[13:43] <cwillu> fde, with the exception of a buggy package that tracks its state via some other mechanism (nvidia is bad for that, for instance)
[13:43] <Favorit> mikeshollen: my home box is ssd-based
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: seek time on 7200 disk is about 12-13ms, SSD is about 3ms
[13:44] <Workk1> when i try to double click on it... it though starts but sudddenly gets hanged etc
[13:44] <mikeshollen> Favorit: Do you guys think gaming is more about read time or seek time?
[13:44] <Workk1> it says some thing like.. tor is already running etc
[13:44] <cocroach> ino..i mean that i will connect Lan network
[13:44] <Workk1> what shall i do now????
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> mikeshollen: its still 300mbps down to the board, just less bursty
[13:44] <cocroach> no..i mean that i will connect Lan network
[13:44] <freegoo> hey guys, i am looking to boot ubuntu from a 1-2gb usb pen. how showulwd i go about this.
[13:44] <Favorit> mikeshollen: a bit of both I suppose, it depends on the game, if you play some MUD, it won't matter, if you need to load textures all the time, you'll probably notice speed increase
[13:44] <Workk1> cwillu,
[13:45] <cwillu> Workk1, yes?
[13:45] <mikeshollen> Favorit: Something like World of Warcraft or FPS games.
[13:45] <blackjak> network manager does not recognize my network cards
[13:45] <fde> cwillu: as I said about an hour ago, evidence seems to suggest they changed something... I haven't ran Ubuntu/Debian for any length of time in about 2 years (basically since lenny froze, releases are boring)
[13:45] <Workk1> cwillu, : my tor is not working
[13:45] <Sonizz> Can someone help me? I am beginner in using ubuntu and my sounds dont work, what should I do?
[13:45] <Workk1> how to fix it?
[13:45] <cwillu> fde, that's how it's worked as long as I've ever used it, dunno
[13:45] <cocroach> my office using windows network...and sometimes I want to connect my laptop with network...i can browsing internet, but i can't use sypnatic update...
[13:45] <prince_jammys> fde: when you get a chance, this short bug report is what is was talking about, which sounds like what you were describing:  http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg89865.html
[13:46] <blackjak> Sonizz what is your computer?
[13:46] <cwillu> Workk1, no idae
[13:46] <cwillu> Workk1, I don't use tor
[13:46] <Workk1> any1 has any idea about Tor
[13:46] <Sonizz> fujitsu siemens I dont remember the modell
[13:46] <Workk1> and how to install it or make it work in Ubuntu????
[13:46] <blackjak> I have but only in windows
[13:47] <blackjak> I think it will be easier to install tor controller
[13:47] <Workk1> blackjak,  how
[13:47] <blackjak> there are a few out there
[13:47] <Workk1> i have installed 1... but when you double click it to work
[13:47] <Joelito> hi all..just curious; is there a project that holds the current ubuntu version with the updated packages?
[13:47] <blackjak> vidalia is the one
[13:47] <Workk1> it hangs up
[13:47] <blackjak> another is ktork
[13:47] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me, I have just installed fluxbox on ubuntu-lite or u-lite how do I get it to run?
[13:47] <Sonizz> blackjak, my computer is fujitsu siemens scaleo T
[13:47] <blackjak> ktor could be found in the software channel
[13:47] <Workk1> suddenly that colour changes and tor interface goes darker like dead etc
[13:47] <Kingsy101> someone said somehting about loggin off and starting a new session with fluxbox is that right?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> tbh he's calling it as seen as we all do
[13:48] <TLowe> I want my www folder to physically reside on a separate partition, but still referenced as /var/www.  How can I do this?
[13:48] <lost_and_unfound> hi there, how do i get a text list of all the installed packages ? in FreeBSD i would use pkg_info | less, I suspect in ubuntu it would be aptitude -??
[13:48] <fde> prince_jammys: perhaps, but I can't see Brandon (xorg packager in debian) making such a trivial mistake... hmm
[13:48] <bernz> cocroach, your work could be blocking whatever ports synatpic wants to use (if non-HTTP)
[13:48] <blackjak> sorry the name is tork
[13:48] <prince_jammys> fde: true
[13:48] <Workk1> yes Tork is there
[13:48] <Workk1> i have also installed it
[13:48] <Workk1> when you open it .. it looks for tor
[13:48] <blackjak> well it is for kde desktop but it works on gnome too
[13:48] <Workk1> and when in command prompt i type tor
[13:49] <Workk1> it gives error in the end
[13:49] <blackjak> I prefer vidalia
[13:49] <Workk1> shall i paste what error it gives here on main????
[13:49] <blackjak> but you need to compile it from source
[13:49] <illumin8> If you have a removeable device, and its not properly unmounted before being unplugged will the uuid for the device alter when its replugged in?
[13:49] <m41n1> Does anyone know why it could access the internet with firefox but not with the terminal/konsole? I am using a proxy that is set in the System->Preference->Network Proxy. And FF has set the option of using the system's proxy
[13:49] <Sonizz> connect/#ubuntu.f
[13:50] <freegoo> ok looking to boot ubuntu from a usb pen. how should i go about this.
[13:50] <Sonizz> #ubuntu-fi
[13:50] <cwillu> !usb | free_loader
[13:51] <cwillu> !usb | freegoo, rather
[13:51] <cwillu> sorry free_loader
[13:51] <Sonizz> [#ubuntu-fi ]
[13:51] <freegoo>  i was thinking about using rEFIt or grub. and making the usb pen bootable. after that can i just install ubuntu. IS tis rightn?
[13:51] <hbekel> m41n1: is HTTP_PROXY set in bash env?
[13:52] <m41n1> hbekel, for that i just have to use export $HTTP_PROXY ..... right?
[13:52] <m41n1> the thing is, i just installed the same ubuntu i have in my laptop
[13:52] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me how to run fluxbox on ubuntu lite?
[13:52] <m41n1> and i set this up in the System->Pref...
[13:52] <SunnyDP> Kingsy101: what is the utility of fluxbos
[13:53] <m41n1> shouldn't that be enough?
[13:53] <SunnyDP> fluxbox*
[13:53] <hbekel> m41n1: w/o the $, yes
[13:53] <Kingsy101> SunnyP - what do you mean?
[13:53] <Kingsy101> SunnyDP*
[13:53] <dolo> how do i give myself permission to use my other internal hard drive?
[13:53] <SunnyDP> Kingsy101: What is fluxbox :D
[13:53] <free_loader> freegoo != free_loader
[13:53] <Kingsy101> I think its a GUI for ubuntu lite.. someone in here advised it
[13:53] <SunnyDP> dolo: just enter your password
[13:53] <baaba> bernz: thanks for the help i got it working now, i hadn't really considered that the resolution/frequency would be the culprit since i was using the exact same modeline with another video card
[13:54] <SunnyDP> King:ok , thanks
[13:54] <Kingsy101> basically I am looking for a GUI I can run on ubuntu-lite (which is entirly console based operating system)
[13:54] <baaba> i wonder when i'll learn to stop making assumptions :P
[13:54] <Kingsy101> SunnyDP - can you suggest something better? if you can that would be great...
[13:54] <SunnyDP> Kingsy101:  :D i think it;s called ubuntu server ?
[13:54] <illumin8> Kingsy101, Do you already have fluxbox installed?
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> !usb > freegoo
[13:54] <dolo> SunnyDP: how do i format it?
[13:54] <SunnyDP> ubuntu server is just that
[13:54] <Kingsy101> yea
[13:54] <Kingsy101> I did
[13:54] <SunnyDP> terminal
[13:54] <SunnyDP> nothing else
[13:55] <Kingsy101> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[13:55] <Kingsy101> and it completed successfully
[13:55] <SunnyDP> dolo: system -> administration -> partition editor
[13:55] <illumin8> Kingsy101, did you read my private message on how to start it?
[13:55] <SunnyDP> from there you can control allyour hdds
[13:55] <Kingsy101> when I type fluxbox at the terminal it says Error: Couldn't connect to XServer
[13:55] <illumin8> Kingsy101, na you have to do it from the login splash screen
[13:55] <Kingsy101> Illumin8 - sorry I missed it, I changed pc's
[13:56] <sarmisak> hi all
[13:56] <SunnyDP> hello sarmis
[13:56] <Kingsy101> any chance of pming the details again?
[13:56] <bernz> baaba, cool, glad to hear you got it working :-)
[13:56] <illumin8> Kingsy101, First, log out of your system and go to your splash login screen (where you enter your user name and pw) then click "sessions" button on the bottom of your screen. Choose fluxbox and check ok, then login as usual
[13:57] <Favorit> anyway
[13:57] <Favorit> i'll hit the traffic.
[13:57] <fabzor> hey what app do i need for intrepid so that i can use my windows box to use me intrepid box over lan?
[13:57] <Favorit> l8rs everyone
[13:57] <dolo> SunnyDP: Is there a partition editor in there by default that i don't  see or should i download gparted
[13:57] <SunnyDP> yeah
[13:57] <SunnyDP> sudo apt-get install gparted
[13:57] <cwillu> dolo, it's not installed by default, apt-get install gparted will do it
[13:57] <fabzor> i have used vinagre before but i want one thats jsut for command line, or will vinagre do console too?
[13:57] <arvind_khadri> dolo, you can use cfdisk...
[13:57] <dolo> thank u
[13:58] <drayen> help, got my main work box down... "dpkg -C" gives no output nor does "dpkg -configure -a" and apt-get update wont work...
[13:58] <fabzor> dolo qgrubedit
[13:58] <Kingsy101> illumin8 - there isnt a splash screen, it totally text based console, so the login screen is just text on the screen, and you enter in the details it takes you to user@ubuntu:$
[13:58] <arvind_khadri> drayen, what error do you get?
[13:58] <Kingsy101> i.e I don't have a mouse, any type of interface at all, it literally like say DOS
[13:59] <Kingsy101> illumin8 - know what I mean?
[13:59] <fabzor> Kingsy101 except it doesnt totally suck hahah
[13:59] <AndySpain> hi!
[13:59] <Kingsy101> heh yea
[13:59] <fabzor> dont be afraid the consoles awesome
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: fluxbox is this: http://keramida.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/freesbie11-fluxbox.jpg
[13:59] <fabzor> it even has text based web brosers
[13:59] <AndySpain> anyone who could help me set up my laptop's wifi?
[13:59] <Xrm123> FINALLY! it took 2 days but i finally got my eyetoy installed on linux
[13:59] <illumin8> Kingsy101, Indeed thats the non grapical version, although im not sure how to enable fluxbox from that
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: light and fast
[13:59] <Kingsy101> damn
[14:00] <fabzor> ohhh fluxbox
[14:00] <illumin8> Kingsy101, have you tried xstart command?
[14:00] <fabzor> my thats fast!
[14:00] <Kingsy101> nope
[14:00] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnip: nothing special right ?
[14:00] <AndySpain> I' on a HP Pavilion Notebook
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: its light in ram and fast
[14:00] <SunnyDP> oh yeah
[14:00] <hbekel> Kingsy101: create a file called ~/.xinitrc and add "exec fluxbox" as the last line, then run startx
[14:00] <fabzor> try x<tab> and see what options you hav
[14:00] <SunnyDP> good for servers then
[14:00] <SunnyDP> will keep in kind
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[14:00] <SunnyDP> mind* and install tomorrowwith my group
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: log off, change session to fluxbox and log in
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: if you dont like it you can uninstall it
[14:01] <illumin8> startx...why am i having so many problems with words today...
[14:01] <illumin8> Kingsy101, Did you see the post on what to do above?
[14:01] <Kingsy101> hbekel - how do you do that? sorry I am pretty new to this...
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> SunnyDP: it good for people who want the job done without a sn=ong and dance
[14:01] <illumin8> Kingsy101, read what hebekel wrote
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> *song
[14:01] <Kingsy101> yea just not sure how to make files with just the console
[14:01] <SunnyDP> ActionPasnips: I dont believe : 4 mb ????
[14:01] <Kingsy101> and add text to those files
[14:01] <SunnyDP> :D
[14:02] <analyser> hi guys, i use my system in english, someones know how can I run some specific program with a different language?
[14:02] <SunnyDP> LOL
[14:02] <hbekel> Kingsy101: just type: echo 'exec fluxbox' > .xinitrc
[14:02] <SunnyDP> analyser: what programs ?
[14:02] <SunnyDP> word processors
[14:02] <SunnyDP> ?
[14:02] <m41n1> hbekel, the thing of the proxy was already set
[14:02] <Kingsy101> ok... do I need to type that everytime I want to run xstart?
[14:02] <analyser> SunnyDP: gnucash
[14:02] <m41n1> but still i can't ping or access anywebsite
[14:02] <m41n1> nor using apt-get
[14:02] <illumin8> Startx not xstart.. that was a typo on my part
[14:02] <hbekel> Kingsy101: no, it creates the .xinitrc file that startx uses to figure out what wm to start
[14:03] <SunnyDP> analyser:system->pref->keyboard : and add the keyboard you like
[14:03] <illumin8> Kingsy101, be sure its Startx not Xstart ( that was a typo on my part)
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> m41n1: can you ping IP addresses: try ping 38.99.130.180
[14:03] <SunnyDP> then use : Alt+Shift to switch keyboard layours/ languages
[14:03] <m41n1> it doesn't work either
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> illumin8: and all lowercase too :)
[14:03] <illumin8> ActionParsnip, indeed, i think its bedtime ...
[14:04] <m41n1> it hangs up, like waiting for a response
[14:04] <m41n1> forever
[14:04] <age> Hello everyone
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> m41n1: are you connected to a router?
[14:04] <Kingsy101> hbekel - it syas I don't have startx installed..
[14:04] <fabzor> hi age
[14:04] <Kingsy101> hbekel - should I run sudo apt-get install xinit?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[14:04] <m41n1> it's the network of the university
[14:05] <m41n1> but as i said, it works on my laptop
[14:05] <SunnyDP> m41n1: those are the best
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: will give you a full blown desktop system
[14:05] <SunnyDP> :D
[14:05] <SunnyDP> ActionParsnip:  he doesnt want that i think
[14:05] <m41n1> hehe
[14:05] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - will that reinstall the entire operating system?
[14:05] <SunnyDP> he wants something lite
[14:05] <m41n1> it's very confusing
[14:05] <m41n1> and fustrating
[14:05] <illumin8> Kingsy101, no it installs the ubuntu desktop
[14:05] <Kingsy101> I just wanted a littel GUI system to go over the top of this
[14:05] <dayo> Favorit: the routes.sh didn't help. the static route was not retained after reboot :-(
[14:06] <hbekel> Kingsy101: yes, try installing xinit
[14:06] <analyser> SunnyDP: i'll try it
[14:06] <SunnyDP> Kingsy101: ubuntu-desktop is only the gnome desktop nothing lese
[14:06] <SunnyDP> analysr:sure
[14:06] <analyser> SunnyDP: thank you
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: sudo apt-get install fluxbox will be light and will install the x server bits you are missing
[14:06] <SunnyDP> analyser: no stress
[14:07] <Kingsy101> hbekel - ok I have install xinit do I need to run the echo command again?
[14:07] <illumin8> ActionParsnip, he said he did that already i believe, but startx isnt launching for him
[14:07] <SunnyDP> right
[14:07] <hbekel> Kingsy101: no, but you have installed fluxbox, do you?
[14:07] <Kingsy101> yea
[14:07] <hbekel> Kingsy101: just try startx
[14:07] <Kingsy101> I have it says
[14:07] <AndySpain> my wifi doesn't work. How do I fix this?
[14:07] <cwillu> kingsley, how did you install it?
[14:08] <Kingsy101> /usr/bin/startx: line139: xauth: command not found
[14:08] <AndySpain> I was told I have to get a madwifi driver and compile it, but I dunno how to do that
[14:08] <analyser> SunnyDP: on this menu you've told me, its to change the keyboard layout, the layout is ok, i want to chang the software translation :)
[14:08] <Kingsy101> it says that for line s 139 149 151 149 151
[14:08] <illumin8> isnt there a terminal command that kicks you out of grapical mode and one that also places you in one ie Alt f1 or something?
[14:08] <hbekel> Kingsy101: try installing xauth, too
[14:08] <cwillu> illumin8, chvt
[14:08] <bernz> Kingsy101, it's useful to understand what that line did: "echo foo > bar.txt" says to the shell "print 'foo', only when you do, send it somewhere else ("redirect") -- to a file called 'bar.txt'; if 'bar.txt' doesn't exist, it will be created, and the output from 'echo' will go to the file; if it exists, it will be replaced... how to avoid that? use '>>' instead of '>'  ;-)
[14:09] <illumin8> cwillu, chvt reenters gui?
[14:09] <cwillu> chvt 7 would take you back to vt7, which is where x usually lives
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> illumin8: sudo apt-get --reinstall install fluxbox
[14:09] <illumin8> cwillu, apprecaited, i had a problem with that myself
[14:09] <Kingsy101> hbekel - ok I have installed xauth now it says
[14:10] <illumin8> ActionParsnip, wrong person :)
[14:10] <bernz> Kingsy101, and so, when you did that line, you created a file '.xinitrc', which is a config (usually 'rc' gives you a hint), and tells startx what to run
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get --reinstall install x-window-system-core xserver-xorg
[14:10] <Kingsy101> xauth: creating new authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[14:10] <Kingsy101> ot says that twice then...
[14:10] <Kingsy101> it*
[14:11] <Kingsy101> X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (no such file or directory), aborting
[14:11] <Kingsy101> xinit: Server error.
[14:11] <AndySpain> ActionParsnip: Can you help me with my wifi? I was told I need to get a madwifi friver and compile it. But I don't know which, and how.
[14:11] <Kingsy101> any ideas?
[14:11] <usser> ActionParsnip, you can just do sudo apt-get install Xorg
[14:11] <SunnyDP> just tried fluxbox: it's fuc*ing light!!!
[14:11] <SunnyDP> weighs like 4mb
[14:11] <usser> SunnyDP, yea :)
[14:11] <SunnyDP> ridiculoys :D
[14:11] <illumin8> Indeed Xfce and fluxbox are very lightweight gui
[14:11] <SunnyDP> but i like my gnome :D
[14:12] <usser> SunnyDP, :(
[14:12] <usser> SunnyDP, give flux a shot you wont wanna go back
[14:12] <cwillu> AndySpain, who said to install madwifi?
[14:12] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - maybe I should just install the desktop system... how does that impact on performace>
[14:12] <Kingsy101> cos its a pretty slow lapttop I am running it on
[14:12] <SunnyDP> usser: meh!
[14:12] <illumin8> usser, have you tried crashbang yet?
[14:12] <SunnyDP> will try xfce next time
[14:13] <AndySpain> cwillu a friend of mine who has the same laptop, but who is out of reach now... :-(
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: more stuff in ram
[14:13] <cwillu> AndySpain, open a terminal and run: lspci|grep -i net
[14:13] <usser> illumin8, nah, i dont like packaged distros, prefer installing what i need myself by hand
[14:13] <cwillu> AndySpain, that should give you one or two lines back, paste them to me
[14:13] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - so its probably not a good idea then? the laptop is VERY old
[14:13] <illumin8> usser, im not to that level yet, but its pretty fast with flux also
[14:14] <cwillu> AndySpain, (note, anything larger than one or two lines should go into a pastebin, not directly into here)
[14:14] <banyunet_> haiii
[14:14] <usser> illumin8, lxde is pretty light too
[14:14] <hbekel> Kingsy101: you did install xorg, did you?
[14:14] <illumin8> usser, lxde?
[14:14] <KevDog> Off topic -- the removal of the Other OS subforum -- disappointed
[14:14] <fabio_> Kingsy101: my laptop is about 5 yo
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: what cpu / ram?
[14:14] <Kingsy101> hbekel - no..
[14:14] <cwillu> AndySpain, thanks, one sec
[14:15] <usser> illumin8, http://www.lxde.org/
[14:15] <AndySpain> cwillu: thank you for helping me
[14:15] <KevDog> e17 is also very light weight window manager
[14:15] <usser> illumin8, theres a package in intrepid even
[14:15] <illumin8> usser, nice, ill take a look
[14:15] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - I am not sure, its an old Toughbook latop
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: you can always install xubuntu-desktop   its lighter than gnome
[14:16] <Kingsy101> ActtionParsnip - where can I get that?
[14:16] <fabio_> gnome is lighter than windows xp
[14:16] <cwillu> AndySpain, I _think_ all you need to do is: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[14:16] <cwillu> AndySpain, and then reboot
[14:16] <hbekel> Kingsy101: i think installing xubuntu-desktop is the way to go for you
[14:16] <KevDog> AndySpain: what driver?
[14:16] <Kingsy101> yea
[14:16] <Kingsy101> where can I get it
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <Kingsy101> ok..
[14:17] <KevDog> AndySpain: are you after the ath5k driver?
[14:17] <AndySpain> KevDog: Dunno after which I am
[14:18] <AndySpain> KevDog: Atheros AR242
[14:18] <KevDog> AndySpain:  What chipset do you have?  lspci -nnm
[14:18] <KevDog> AndySpain: Got that -- yes you want the ath5k driver
[14:18] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - ok I am getting it now, what shuld I do after the apt-get is finished?
[14:19] <KevDog> AndySpain: cwillu was right aboutthe backports collection
[14:19] <fabio_> Kingsy101: restart your server X
[14:19] <Kingsy101> what do you mean by that? re-start my laptop? sorry I am a noob I know
[14:19] <fabio_> your are going to install xfce4...
[14:19] <hbekel> fabio_: he isn't running X yet
[14:19] <fabio_> ah sorry
[14:20] <salvatore> hello evrybody
[14:20] <Kingsy101> hbekel - no I am install xubuntu-desktop
[14:20] <fabio_> Kingsy101: it's the same
[14:20] <Kingsy101> hbekel - just wondering after the apt-get is finished how I go about getting it running
[14:20] <salvatore> anybody knows some channel to speak about blackberry 8830 unlock
[14:20] <KevDog> Kingsy101: Quick restart method at terminal: sudo init 6
[14:20] <salvatore> ?
[14:21] <noclue-man> Hi, when I try to print, the print job appears then disappears but no printing happens.  Any thoughts?
[14:21] <cwillu> AndySpain, sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[14:21] <fabio_> Kingsy101: startx
[14:21] <Kingsy101> ah right, so after the apt-get is finished type sudo init 6 ?
[14:21] <Kingsy101> oh ok
[14:21] <sarmisak> has anyone got any idea about broken fonts with openoffice?
[14:21] <Kingsy101> startx it is then
[14:21] <sarmisak> whenever i open a document that has been mailed to me, arial becomes gear crank
[14:21] <KevDog> sudo init 6 reboots the system, and then at the login screen you can choose the right window manager
[14:22] <fde> sarmisak: do you have msttcorefonts installed?
[14:22] <dolo> hey thanks for your help
[14:22] <Workk1> when i try to configured Tork
[14:22] <dolo> I had 2 other questions
[14:22] <Workk1> when clicking play button it returns the error ... tor is already running
[14:22] <Kingsy101> fabio_ - startx will work after this install then? it was coming up with errors before hand..
[14:22] <hbekel> Kingsy101: I'm not sure since i don't know wether xubuntu-desktop contains a display manager, and wether it would edit inittab in that case... seems to be the case from what KevDog says, though
[14:22] <dolo> how do i fix the no sound on youtube thing and set vlc as my default media player
[14:23] <KevDog> xubuntu-desktop = XCFE display manager
[14:23] <blackjak> guys could you tell me how to make network manager to control my interfaces?
[14:23] <Kingsy101> hbekel - so just re-start then?
[14:23] <Zta> Hm, youtube's flash player suddenly stopped working yesterday.  Did I update something bad?  Using 8.04.
[14:23] <fabio_> Kingsy101: there is a startx for xfce4
[14:23] <hbekel> Kingsy101: yes, forget about startx, that's only used if you don't use a display manager
[14:23] <bernz> hey KevDog, is there a Right Way to stop x? i usually just kill all running windows managers...
[14:23] <KevDog> hbekel: inittab -- I dont think modern versions of Ubuntu use that file anymore now with udev in place
[14:23] <Kingsy101> right ok
[14:24] <Workk1> Help please! Tor configurations required
[14:24] <Zta> Other flash players do work, btw.
[14:24] <JonathanEllis> I need to be able to boot a livecd on a machine that has a floppy drive and a usb cdrom that it can read but not boot from. Is there any way to boot from a floppy and then chainload the cdrom. I know grub cant chainload to a cd. ANyone know another way of doing it
[14:24] <cwillu> blackjak, if you've upgraded or previously configured networking manually, make sure /etc/network/interfaces _doesn't_ include anything you want network manager to handle
[14:24] <AndySpain> cwillu:ok, sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid, is done
[14:25] <cwillu> AndySpain, okay, reboot and try it.  I can't remember if you need to do anything else, but it might Just Work now
[14:25] <fabio_> Kingsy101: if your laptop is very old try with a good window manager like e16
[14:25] <hbekel> KevDog: init != udev, inittab is crucial
[14:25] <KevDog> AndySpain -- not running gnome, however I think under Administration or System -> Administration -> Drivers or Networking or something there is an option to install restricted modules
[14:25] <sarmisak> fde: yes, i have installed the core fonts
[14:25] <KevDog> hbekel: inittab as in /etc/inittab?
[14:25] <sjhstorm__> hi
[14:25] <hbekel> KevDog: yes
[14:25] <Workk1> fde,  please help me
[14:26] <cwillu> blackjak, refrain from pm'ing people without asking them in-channel first.  I've gone days before I noticed that I had a pm window open
[14:26] <Workk1> Tor is not working on my Ubuntu
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !tor
[14:26] <blackjak> sorry
[14:26] <dolo> anyone know how i can fix youtube sound and set vlc as my default media player?
[14:26] <Kingsy101> fabio_ - just going to see what this is like first
[14:26] <KevDog> hbekel: must have missed part of the conversation
[14:26] <AndySpain> KevDog: There is nothing in the restricted window
[14:26] <Kingsy101> re-starting now
[14:26] <AndySpain> cwillu: ok will restart now.
[14:26] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  yea tor
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 yea, I know what it is and why it doesnt work here and most of the places you want to be anonomous
[14:27] <cwillu> behaviour | Workk1
[14:27] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  yea
[14:27] <cwillu> !behaviour | Workk1
[14:28] <Kingsy101> hbekel - it just does exactly the same thing as before... its taken me to a totally text based login screen.... any ideas?
[14:28] <Workk1> cwillu, :????
[14:28] <bernz> dolo, try 'System | Preferences | Preferred applications '
[14:28] <Kingsy101> hbekel - then when I log in it just takes me to the console again, no change
[14:28] <bernz> (that will allow you to associate common video/music/multimedia files with VLC)
[14:28] <dolo> bernz: I did it wont let me select vlc
[14:28] <vanderleinun>  /msg iSLiFECORP invite c5bbndi34nitm4pr
[14:29] <blackjak> in the network configuration file everything seems to be fine, still manager says device unmanaged
[14:29] <dolo> bernz: you know how to fix youtube sound ? its much more fustrating
[14:29] <bernz> dolo, oh.. hm. try 'custom', and enter the CLI info in the textbox
[14:29] <hbekel> Kingsy101: just a sec
[14:29] <Kingsy101> ok...
[14:31] <bernz> dolo, nope, haven't looked at that yet; i'm working on more basic stuff (video drivers at full accel, etc)... my youtube sound was already working ;-/
[14:31] <travian_geek> how can i make my promt (PS1) red when working on a server and green when not?
[14:31] <gords> hi! i'm using ubuntu8 hardy 2.6.24. i'm trying to get my webcam working, but why does when i  ls -l /dev/video0 it gives me this error ls: cannot access /dev/video0: No such file or directory?
[14:31] <hbekel> Kingsy101: just run X for a test
[14:31] <blackjak> is there a such  feature in the ubuntu like in windows restore
[14:31] <Kingsy101> startx?
[14:31] <hbekel> Kingsy101: no, just "X"
[14:31] <dolo> not for long it wont
[14:32] <Kingsy101> yea running it now
[14:32] <Kingsy101> it works fne
[14:32] <Kingsy101> fine*
[14:32] <hbekel> Kingsy101: you have a black screen with a cross mouse cursor?
[14:32] <Kingsy101> but I think I would like to get ubuntux-desktop working if I can..
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> blackjak not unless you have made a backup or restore point
[14:32] <Kingsy101> hbekel - yea
[14:32] <hbekel> Kingsy101: we're on to that
[14:32] <Kingsy101> hbekel - thats right.. I have got that
[14:32] <blackjak> damn then I need to reinstall
[14:32] <hbekel> Kingsy101: ok, press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[14:33] <runpain2> God Day All
[14:33] <bernz> dolo, FWIW, i'm using mplayer as my primary media player (including plug-in for firefox), and youtube sound is working
[14:33] <Kingsy101> ok done, back to the terminal
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> blackjak see sep /home.. it makes upgrading and resinstalling a breeze
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !home
[14:33] <bernz> dolo, i first removed totem (the bundled player)
[14:33] <blackjak> ! home???
[14:33] <hbekel> Kingsy101: now do a telinit 5 as root
[14:33] <Kingsy101> ok done
[14:34] <travian_geek> how can i make my promt (PS1) red when working on a server and green when I'm not?
[14:34] <Kingsy101> sudo telinit 5
[14:34] <vigge> hai
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> blackjak if you create second ext3 partition and keep /home there it makes maint much easier
[14:34] <hbekel> Kingsy101: do you get a display manager?
[14:34] <Kingsy101> hbekel - no, nothing happens. it just goes to the next line
[14:34] <blackjak> i see but I have used wibi to install ubuntu
[14:34] <vigge> How come my ubuntu isn't usable after I install the nVidia drivers?
[14:35] <Kingsy101> asks for a password then does nothing
[14:35] <vigge> ubuntu just uses 100% CPU and freezes
[14:35] <X-722> vigge: I would venture to say that you messed up your xorg config file
[14:35] <vigge> X-722: I had not even touched it
[14:35] <cwillu> vigge, you didn't install the driver from their website did you?
[14:35] <X-722> You just installed nvidia drivers?
[14:35] <vigge> cwillu: envy
[14:35] <hbekel> Kingsy101: just a sec
[14:35] <X-722> What were you using before?
[14:35] <Kingsy101> hbekel - ok
[14:35] <vigge> I tried 177 and 173
[14:36] <illio> I'm trying to install Neverwinter Nights in Ubuntu, however I'm having trouble with one thing.. When running ./nwn (and having removed the lib directory) it starts up fine, however the graphics doesn't really work.. it displays the menu for a second and then goes black, so that I can press and write whatever I want, I just can't see what I'm pressing?.. any idea why such a thing is happening?
[14:36] <vigge> X-722: those who came with ubuntu
[14:36] <cwillu> vigge, 173, 177 and 180 are all available from the normal repository, you don't really need to use envy
[14:36] <e-vad> anyone know of an app, that prompt you say once an hour to stand up or so? or have any good gnome programming resources so i can fire one up?
[14:36] <bernz> vigge, "isn't usable" is kinda vague; what's actually not working?  i used envy with success, but i have an ATI card
[14:37] <vigge> bernz: it is really slow, and takes 10 min to start anything
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> vigge once you have tried envy.. getting back to a clean system can be diffiicult
[14:37] <Workk1> cwillu,
[14:37] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  can you tell me how to uninstall installed things
[14:38] <bernz> illio, again and again, i see display devices that can "grab at" the video timing for an instant, and then lose sync again, so you see a brief picture, and then blackness... check your refresh rate, resolution, etc -- make sure your display device can handle it... it's probably using some weird video mode; maybe you can force the game to use a lower/different resolution?
[14:38] <hbekel> Kingsy101: I have to admit i'm an ubuntu noob, though not a linux noob. things seems to be handled differently in ubuntu...
[14:38] <vigge> Jack_Sparrow: I just went into envvvy and pressed uninstall, now I'm back to the ubuntu drivers
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 If it is stuff you installed yourself and not from supported repos.. no..
[14:38] <prince_jammys> e-vad: yeah, i've heard of an app like that
[14:38] <vigge> but I need to use x.org for some apps
[14:38] <e-vad> ... prince_jammys name?
[14:38] <vigge> or w/e it is
[14:38] <Kingsy101> ah right I see...
[14:38] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  i installed it from site
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> vigge there is nothing wrong with the nvidia drivers in our repos
[14:38] <hbekel> so, what does Kingsy101 have to do to a) start his displaymanager and b) make it the default runlevel?
[14:38] <illio> bernz, okay, so you think it's the graphics settings for nwn? .. that seems to make sense.. I'll fiddle around with that
[14:38] <Workk1> means once you install some thing on Ubuntu you can't uninstall it
[14:38] <KevDog> hbekel: awesome attempt
[14:39] <X-722> envy = bad .. at least it used to be. I havent used it in forever though
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 sure you can
[14:39] <hbekel> KevDog: ?
[14:39] <Workk1> then how
[14:39] <bernz> vigge, hmm... i *did* have some issues after install, but i was messing with stuff... i used envyng actually, and i uninstalled, then re-install my ATI drivers -- success... so maybe, try un/re?
[14:39] <Workk1> pvt msg me plz
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !who > Workk1
[14:39] <KevDog> hbekel: no, Im serious -- never seen those commands before
[14:39] <vigge> bernz: already tried
[14:39] <prince_jammys> e-vad: xwrits is one i'm seeing. i've stumbled into others by accident, but don't remember the name
[14:39] <pmpfe> hey there, i have a problem with my x server, it seems to suddenly start ignoring my keyboard and mouse buttons in the middle of a session, any idea why this might be?
[14:39] <Kingsy101> hbekel - yea I thought/hoped xubuntu-desktop might do that iself
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 and no, I wont pm you on it.
[14:39] <prince_jammys> !info xwrits | e-vad
[14:40] <runpain2> it seems that almost every time i boot up after shuting down the xorg wont boot to gui i do recovery and boot back up and it it boots to a lower resolution 800x600 then i go into hardware reconfigure it to use the nvidia driver and use a 1024x768 resultion then i got to restart xserver and i have what i want 1024x768 resolution ,I wonder How i could avoid all this rigaramore
[14:40] <KevDog> Kingsy101: what do you get when you reboot? A login screen or terminal
[14:40] <bernz> vigge, in that case, it'll probably require manual installation (building the drivers from source, etc)... i haven't tried that yet, so i can't offer tips :-/
[14:40] <Workk1> !jack_sparrow
[14:40] <illio> bernz, hehe.. the refresh rate is set to 0.. that can't be right :-)
[14:40] <Kingsy101> it boots up and then I get a login screen then I get the terminal after I login
[14:40] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  why
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !botabuse
[14:40] <Kingsy101> its totally text based.. like DOS
[14:41] <KevDog> Kingsy101: You dont get the graphical GUI for login?
[14:41] <Kingsy101> nope
[14:41] <e-vad> prince_jammys: ... cool... looking at it now, know of others?
[14:41] <Kartagis> does anyone here use lightning with their thunderbird?
[14:41] <linuksamiko> hello everyone, There was an update for libc6 a few days ago (8.04) and now ldconfig won't work anymor. I have no clue what the problem could be, pleas help me
[14:41] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  i want to uninstall tor
[14:41] <Kingsy101> KevDog - nope :(
[14:41] <KevDog> Kingsy101: sorry about the redundancy, but are you upgrading from the server edition
[14:41] <bernz> illio, well, zero is often a magical value in the world of computers; in this case, it could mean "auto-detect", or "no display" ... hard to be sure unless it's documented, but you could try '60' (if you're in north america, '50' if your electrical grid is in europe or most other parts)... but careful -- you could damage your display device if bad settings are used
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 if you had used apt-get or aptitude or synaptic, you could have selected uninstall or remove..
[14:42] <KevDog> Kingsy101: did you reconfigure the x server?
[14:42] <bernz> (FWIW, most LCDs can handle "nasty" settings without harm)
[14:42] <Kingsy101> KevDog - yea startx works bow
[14:42] <Kingsy101> now*
[14:42] <ari_stress> good evening all :)
[14:42] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  please be simple
[14:42] <runpain2> it seems that almost every time i boot up after shuting down the xorg wont boot to gui i do recovery and boot back up and it it boots to a lower resolution 800x600 then i go into hardware reconfigure it to use the nvidia driver and use a 1024x768 resultion then i got to restart xserver and i have what i want 1024x768 resolution ,I wonder How i could avoid all this rigaramore
[14:42] <hbekel> KevDog: running plain "X" works for him as a test case
[14:42] <linuksamiko> ldconfig is the post installation process but it can't finish that means I can't install/uninstall/update anything
[14:42] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  i want you to show me simple steps to get it uninstall thanks
[14:42] <Kingsy101> KevDog - if I type startx I get a interface but its really really really lite.. I think xubuntu-desktop might be better
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 Did you install tor with apt-get or aptitude or synaptic
[14:43] <prince_jammys> e-vad: xfce4-time-out-plugin looks like anbother
[14:43] <Workk1> yes apt-get i guess
[14:43] <runpain2> BRB
[14:43] <Nero-Wolf> Well.
[14:43] <KevDog> Kingsy101: what display manager are you running? xcfe4 by itself?
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 there is no guessing, you did or did not
[14:43] <hbekel> Kingsy101: if you type startx now you get fluxbox, as we configured that earlier
[14:43] <illio> bernz, yeah.. didn't work either :-)..
[14:43] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  :(
[14:43] <Kingsy101> hbekel - thats right
[14:43] <Nero-Wolf> That's lame.  Apparently all of nvidia's display drivers break any text displayed in OpenOffice.
[14:43] <Kingsy101> KevDog - I am not sure.. how should I check?
[14:44] <KevDog> Kingsy101: Fluxbox!!
[14:44] <Kingsy101> ah right
[14:44] <Kingsy101> yea
[14:44] <Kingsy101> sorry :)
[14:44] <xsever> Any experts with testdisk here?
[14:44] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow, : why not show me all the ways.. if i've installed it by that way... it work other wise it dont
[14:44] <bernz> illio, okay, you'll probably just have to dig around for some documentation about it -- maybe someone else already solved this problem (too bad there are no longer any good Web search engines to help you)
[14:44] <Workk1> actually i downloaded tor zip file on my desktop
[14:44] <illio> bernz, hmm.. This is beginning to look like trial-n-error correction :-).. perhaps there's an example nwn.ini out there.. anywho.. thanks for the help.. I now know what to look for
[14:44] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow, then i double clicked it and got it installed
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 then go to where you got the zip and look for help.
[14:45] <Nero-Wolf> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix text being displayed in OpenOffice while using the nvidia display drivers?
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 if you downloaded a zip you did not use any of the official supported ways of installing software
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Nero-Wolf you can try the oo channel
[14:45] <Nero-Wolf> ?
[14:45] <Shay26> Hello , does anyone know if Ubuntu have some good software for Audio recording/editing ? (such Cool-edit at windows) ?
[14:45] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  you are rite.. but there will be any way to solve it
[14:45] <Nero-Wolf> oo channel?
[14:45] <hwilde> Shay26, audacity is pretty good
[14:46] <Kingsy101> KevDog - so yea fluxbox works fine.. so is it difficult to go on from here and get xubuntu-desktop working?
[14:46] <Workk1> i mean it it is installed on machine.... why not we can delete it
[14:46] <kdog> I've connected my A2DP device how do I make ubuntu use it as default sound output?
[14:46] <prince_jammys> Shay26: audacity is probably the most popular
[14:46] <KevDog> Kingsy101: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[14:46] <Kingsy101> I have already done that...
[14:46] <tim|macbook> hey all, can someone tell me how i make intrepid ibex get a dhcp lease after i login? i need to connect manually every time by clicking on the applet now...
[14:46] <Shay26> thanks
[14:46] <Kingsy101> well I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:46] <kdog> I've connected my A2DP device how do I make ubuntu use it as default sound output?
[14:46] <KevDog> Kingsy101: good enough
[14:46] <Nero-Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: What is "oo channel"?
[14:47] <prince_jammys> Shay26: an old cooledit runs well under wine. there's a few version that don't, though.
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 there are always ways to solve it.  sometimes a fresh install or restore from a previous backup is simpler than trying to untangle a messy install
[14:47] <Kingsy101> KevDog - yea, what now tho? :)
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Nero-Wolf open office.. but I dont know the actual name of the channel  for open office
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !irc
[14:47] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  okay how to restore to previous settings
[14:47] <KevDog> Kingsy101: let me look something up
[14:47] <prince_jammys> #openoffice
[14:47] <bazhang> !openoffice.org
[14:47] <Kingsy101> KevDog - ok thanks
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 Please ask someone else
[14:47] <prince_jammys> (that was me failing at joining the channel, btw)
[14:48] <Workk1> Any1: How to restore back to previous good configurations in Ubuntu? in simple ways???
[14:48] <kdog> I've connected my A2DP device how do I make ubuntu use it as default sound output?
[14:48] <prince_jammys> ubottu to the rescue
[14:48] <prince_jammys> arg
[14:48] <archman> KevDog: tried your bcm?
[14:48] <archman> it works with me
[14:48] <KevDog> archman: give me a sec -- and yes I did
[14:49] <archman> awesome
[14:49] <kdog> I've connected my A2DP device how do I make ubuntu use it as default sound output?
[14:49] <SmokeyD> hey people, I have setup scponly on my ubuntu machine to give separate users a chrooted environment to sftp into. I am quite far in setting it up but am stuck now
[14:49] <kdog> this must be an easy question!!!!
[14:49] <Nero-Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: The only problem with that, is that sometimes the menu-bar at the top of my windows will disappear.
[14:50] <illio> bernz, hehe.. apparently the resolution was so low it failed on the screen.. 800x600 is apparently not well-liked by my 1680x1050 screen
[14:50] <Nero-Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: It's a problem with the nvidia drivers, because the second I switch back to default, it works fine.
[14:50] <bernz> kdog, this may come as a surprise to you, but asking the same question repeatedly won't increase your odds of getting an answer ;-)
[14:50] <kdog> bernz: ok!
[14:50] <SmokeyD> using ldd and stuff, I think I have most of the libraries in the chroot jail but now when I log iin through sftp, auth.log shows "scponly: running: /usr/lib/sftp-server (username: .., IP/port....)" and then sshd:pam_unix tells me that the session is closed again
[14:50] <dolo> anyone know how to fix sound on youtube
[14:50]  * Dr_Willis64 dosent even know what an A2DP device is
[14:50] <SmokeyD> I don't get any missing library reports anymore
[14:50] <bernz> illio, i have similar problems using my HDTV as a monitor -- it doesn't like really low res
[14:50] <kdog> bluetooth device
[14:51] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  i got it how to remove
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Nero-Wolf try just turning off effects.. there is supposed to be a fix for nvidia and that top bar thing..  /join #nvidia..
[14:51] <Workk1> sudo apt-get remove tor by this command
[14:51] <runpain2> ok i booted up laptop and again back to termnial sign in. no graphic gui when i startx went to gome desktop not the kde i want
[14:51] <kdog> I need sound output to my bluetooth device!!!???
[14:51] <bernz> kdog, but surely there is an option somewhere in the bluetooth manager, or...? did you read the documentation for whatever bluetooth manager software you're using?
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 that wont work on zip's that you have installed yourself
[14:51] <kdog> bernz:yes i DID and there isn't any!
[14:51] <Workk1> Jack_Sparrow,  do you getting any clue how i installed it
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Workk1 Please ask someone else.
[14:52] <e-vad> prince_jammys: http://m.linuxjournal.com/article/9114
[14:52] <illio> bernz, the problem is however the machine connected to the screen is weak.. so I'm not sure it can run it in that resolution.. probably have to put the quality quite a bit down at least
[14:53] <SmokeyD> this log shows what auth.log is saying
[14:53] <SmokeyD> http://pastie.org/391709
[14:53] <KevDog> Kingsy101: Try this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[14:54] <Kingsy101> ok..
[14:54] <KevDog> archman: Got a few questions
[14:54] <bernz> illio, there may be other resolutions that work, but it's usually a matter of trial and error  :-/  anyway, at least it works sorta :-)
[14:54] <B|20CK> Hey, I've got a graphical problem with installation.
[14:54] <archman> KevDog: ok, on private
[14:54] <B|20CK> When I boot to the CD and start installing it see the progress bar, but when it finishes there's nothing for abut 10 seconds, then a barcode pattern.
[14:54] <Kingsy101> KevDog - I don't think I have xdm installed
[14:54] <B|20CK> I see*
[14:55] <bernz> kdog, i haven't actually set up my bt yet, so i'll try now, and see if i can find anything
[14:55] <B|20CK> I have a nVidia 6800GT and I've got a similar problem with Debian but it happens after I install with Debian.
[14:56] <e-vad> work rave... wee
[14:56] <AndySpain> cwillu: i restarted but still no wifi
[14:56] <e-vad> thx
[14:56] <Kingsy101> KevDog - ok I have just installed xdm
[14:56] <Kingsy101> KevDog - with sudo apt-get install xdm , should I try and reconfigure now?
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> B|20CK, which ubuntu?
[14:56] <KevDog> Kingsy101: Try this:  hold on
[14:56] <B|20CK> 8.1 Desktop i386
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> B|20CK I have a 6600gt and no issues..  the restricted drivers in ubuntu seemed to work fine for effects and all that
[14:57] <Kingsy101> KevDog - ok
[14:57] <Dr_Willis64> I have a 6800GTSXXX :) works well...
[14:57] <B|20CK> Well I can't even get to the install. :/
[14:57] <arvind_khadri> B|20CK, use the alternate to install
[14:57] <cwillu> AndySpain, in a pastebin, give me the output of lspci
[14:57] <cwillu> pastebin | AndySpain
[14:57] <cwillu> !pastebin | AndySpain
[14:57] <B|20CK> What alternate?
[14:57] <arvind_khadri> B|20CK, maybe the cd you burnt wasnt good...
[14:57] <arvind_khadri> !alternate | B|20CK
[14:57] <B|20CK> No, I checked it with the menu option.
[14:58] <B|20CK> it said it was fine.
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> B|20CK At the first screen I used F4 or something for safe graphics mode and F6 and removed quiet and splash and added noapic acpi=off
[14:58] <nonix4> Can networkmanager be used on multihomed hosts w/out totally screwing up the networking? (seems to config the same IP on interfaces that are note supposed to use it)
[14:58] <B|20CK> apic?
[14:58] <X-722> jaubty stable enough to use for a main desktop machine?
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> X-722 Wrong channel  try +1
[14:59] <cwillu> nonix4, I wouldn't myself.  I think you can tell nm to leave particular devices alone though
[14:59] <KevDog> Kingsy101: Try this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xubuntu-desktop
[14:59] <Hanness> +1^
[14:59] <AndySpain> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119229/
[14:59] <Nero-Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: Good thought on the whole "desktop effects" thing.  I think I might have fixed it.  Not sure yet.
[14:59] <X-722> I'm in the wrong channel to ask an ubuntu question?
[14:59] <Kingsy101> KevDog - ok
[14:59] <cwillu> AndySpain, thansk
[14:59] <Dr_Willis64> !jaunty
[14:59] <KevDog> Kingsy101: not xdm -- my fault
[14:59] <X-722> oh jeez
[14:59] <nonix4> cwillu: yeah seems to be designed for laptops and not anything more complex than that...
[14:59] <AndySpain> cwillu: thanks to you
[14:59] <cwillu> AndySpain, bah, I'm sorry, I told you the wrong line
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> B|20CK To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[14:59] <cwillu> AndySpain, lsmod
[14:59] <AndySpain> ok
[15:00] <Hanness> +1
[15:00] <cwillu> nonix4, well, workstations
[15:00] <SmokeyD> ah, I found a proper debugging way, not with gftp but using scp
[15:00] <Kingsy101> eh... it says that xubuntu isnt installed....
[15:00] <Dr_Willis64> I plan on waiting a few weeks after Jaunty comes out - befor i try it. :)
[15:00] <SmokeyD> now I see quite some things are still amiss :)
[15:00] <Kingsy101> KevDog - but I did install it
[15:00] <Caplain> quick question, what are the consequences of turning off swap while a system is running?
[15:00] <cwillu> nonix4, a machine that is vital to the operation of a service or infrastructure is a server even if people use it as a desktop :p
[15:00] <AndySpain> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119230/
[15:00] <B|20CK> Jack_Sparrow: Okay, thank you I will try that.
[15:00] <cwillu> AndySpain, thanks
[15:01] <AndySpain> :-)
[15:01] <cwillu> AndySpain, and it doesn't show up in network manager?
[15:01] <Kingsy101> KevDog - I will just re-install it then I guess.. did you say use synaptic or something?
[15:01] <arvind_khadri> Caplain, nothing
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> B|20CK I use that on troublesome machines, then backup and then try restricted drivers
[15:01] <doolph> how to add ppa.launchpad.net repository key?
[15:01] <cwillu> !ppa
[15:01] <arvind_khadri> !ppa > doolph
[15:01] <cwillu> doolph, that link has instruction
[15:01] <satansaunt> ok, can't get smplayer to play audio
[15:01] <sachael> hi, my gnome programs think that firefox is the program which should be used to open folder (and not rox-filer). Can anyone help me? I think the problem is in /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[15:01] <satansaunt> wtf
[15:01] <nonix4> cwillu: yeah... I think of most of my 'puters as servers anyway :)
[15:01] <Caplain> arvind_khadri: thanks...i think
[15:01] <bernz> kdog, yeah, my BT doesn't even work for A2DP yet (it detects, and pairs, but profiles aren't even listed -- the BT manager I have is pretty basic)
[15:02] <Dr_Willis64> Caplain, thats an interesting test... i rarely hit the swap parittion in my normal ussage :)
[15:02] <cwillu> nonix4, sloppy :p
[15:02] <KevDog> Kingsy101: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> satansaunt Lose the rude shorthand.. thanks..
[15:02] <arvind_khadri> Caplain, np :)
[15:02] <cwillu> AndySpain, sorry, do any access points show up in network manager
[15:02] <satansaunt> apologies
[15:02] <nonix4> cwillu: well, the mythbuntu-diskless ones are hdless servers, kind of...
[15:02] <satansaunt> it makes no sense, everything works fine, but audio in smplayer doesn't
[15:03] <AndySpain> cwillu: ah, sorry. i have installed kde. on gnome it showed me all available wlans right there. Here it was more hidden. Yes. It works!!! They're there!  :-)
[15:03] <Kingsy101> KevDog - ok doing that now...
[15:03] <AndySpain> cwillu: Thank you!
[15:03] <cwillu> AndySpain, np :)
[15:03] <AndySpain> cwillu: without wlan i woulda been dead.
[15:03] <Kingsy101> KevDog - after its installed should I type the reconfigure command again?
[15:04] <cwillu> AndySpain, the really cheap usb wireless adapters are well supported (most of the cheapest ones use a zd1211 chipset which has been supported forever now)
[15:04] <AndySpain> cwillu: Thank you very much. One tiny lil question: Is the dirver proprietary? Would be greta if not. But if it is, I won't uninstall it either
[15:04] <cwillu> AndySpain, that's my usual fallback :p
[15:04] <nonix4> cwillu: wiring dual gigabit ethernet around the home took a while... am I too oldschool if I prefer physically separated lans to vlans?
[15:04] <doolph> it is complicated :(
[15:04] <lesshaste> how do I turn off compiz? It seems to be causing X to freeze
[15:04] <cwillu> AndySpain, I think it might have a binary blob for firmware, not sure what the licence is on that
[15:04] <SmokeyD> hey people. I am executing "mknod -m 666 /home/someuser/dev/null c 1 3" but it only gets 444 permissions, not 666.
[15:04] <SmokeyD> what is wrong?
[15:05] <cwillu> SmokeyD, why?
[15:05] <SmokeyD> cwillu: because I am creating a chroot jail
[15:05] <HoNgOuRu> hi which is the directory tree when logging into vsftpd ftp server????
[15:05] <pm2> Hi - I'm running Kubuntu Linux on some SPARC boxes.  I have about 20 sparcs (sunblade 150's) and I'd like to try to network boot them somehow.  All of the docs I'm finding online seem to make use of syslinux, which is x86 only.  Any advice on how to make a PXE boot image for a Sparc?
[15:05] <AndySpain> cwillu: ok. thank you. :-)
[15:06] <SmokeyD> HoNgOuRu: depends on how it is setup. But isn't it your home dir?
[15:06] <Kingsy101> KevDog - what should I choose as my default display manager ? xdm or gdm?
[15:06] <arvind_khadri> !sparc | pm2
[15:06] <HoNgOuRu> I'll check, cause I don't find anything in the configuration file...
[15:06] <Dr_Willis64> Kingsy101,  if you use gnome    then use gdm
[15:06] <bernz> is 'bluez' (bundled BTmgr) just a WIP so far, or...? it doesn't have the option to list profiles once paired, etc... is there a more feature-rich alternative that's "official"?
[15:06] <cwillu> SmokeyD, works fine here
[15:07] <lesshaste> how do I turn off compiz? It seems to be causing X to freeze.  I get lines like [597697.070940] NVRM: Xid (0006:00): 13, 0000 01016100 0000008a 00000400 75e6e1dc 00000800
[15:07] <lesshaste> when this happens
[15:07] <AndySpain> thank you. gotta go. bye
[15:07] <savvas> pm2: the ubuntu server iso has PXE enabled by default, I think you can find a copy for sparc at http://ports.ubuntu.com
[15:07] <SmokeyD> cwillu: not here. any idea where I should look for the solution?
[15:07] <hbekel> Kingsy101: use gdm, it's nicer
[15:07] <cwillu> SmokeyD, you can just chmod it after
[15:07] <pm2> arvind_khadri: FYI that link is a 404
[15:07] <SmokeyD> cwillu: also doesn't work
[15:07] <KevDog> Kingsy101: gdm -- I agree
[15:07] <HoNgOuRu> Smokey I installed it as root
[15:07] <Dr_Willis64> !info slim
[15:07] <Kingsy101> KevDog - damn I picked xdm
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste right click desktop, go to wallpaper then to far right tab effects and turn them off
[15:08] <SmokeyD> cwillu: found it. /home is mounted with nodev :)
[15:08] <arvind_khadri> lesshaste, right click on the desktop , go to the last page... and disable the effects
[15:08] <cwillu> SmokeyD, and a sane choice it is :)
[15:08] <Kingsy101> KevDog - should I re-install after its finished or does it not matter that much?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis64> Kingsy101,  its easy to change.. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[15:08] <arvind_khadri> pm2, thanks...
[15:08] <Kingsy101> cool
[15:08] <Kingsy101> thanks
[15:08] <HoNgOuRu> SmokeyD I' ve installed it as root
[15:08] <KevDog> Kingsy101: I waylaid you with the xdm crap
[15:09] <SmokeyD> HoNgOuRu: That is not what I meant. You asked what folder you end up in after you login through ftp to your ftp server right?
[15:09] <SmokeyD> isn't it the homedir of the user you logged in with?
[15:10] <SmokeyD> cwillu: yes a sane choice, except when you want to setup a chroot jail :)
[15:10] <cwillu> SmokeyD, there's a few chroot builders in the repo's, might want to look at one of them
[15:10] <HoNgOuRu> I don't know, I just enabled anonymous loggin
[15:10] <pm2> savvas: I'm able to run the PXE server with tftp, the issue is in creating a boot image for the clients to use...
[15:10] <HoNgOuRu> and run vsftpd as root
[15:11] <HoNgOuRu> there's no clew about this directory in the configuration file
[15:11] <svensko1> how do i exit X and run Xorg -configure? ctrl+alt+del doesn't seem to do anything
[15:11] <HoNgOuRu> I don't want local users to loggin, just anonymous users
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> svensko1 ctrl a;t backspace
[15:11] <SmokeyD> cwillu: yes I guess, but now I know exactly what is going on
[15:12] <HoNgOuRu> and just to upload files in /uploads directory
[15:12] <svensko1> Jack_Sparrow: that just takes me to the login screen, i need to exit X completely
[15:12] <lesshaste> arvind_khadri, thanks
[15:12] <prince_jammys> svensko1: just log out, and run it from one of the virtual consoles. ctrl-alt-F1
[15:12] <arvind_khadri> lesshaste, np :)
[15:12] <cwillu> svensko1, why do you want to run Xorg -configure?  (xorg is almost completely autodetected these days, and for the things that aren't, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the debian/ubuntu way of generating an xorg.conf
[15:12] <svensko1> alright ty
[15:12] <lesshaste> arvind_khadri, this compiz freezing thing is really annoying
[15:12] <cwillu> SmokeyD, out of curiousity, what's the jail for?
[15:12] <prince_jammys> svensko1: ctrl-alt-F7 to come back
[15:12] <arvind_khadri> lesshaste, i know...
[15:12] <prince_jammys> oops
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> svensko1 ctrl alt F1              sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new; sudo nvidia-xconfig; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... Alt-F7
[15:13] <prince_jammys> Jack_Sparrow: ;)
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[15:13] <prince_jammys> Jack_Sparrow: errr, maybe i shouldn't have hit enter ;)
[15:13] <slusken> Anyone heard any news about powermizer or know how to fix it yet?
[15:13] <cwillu> wait
[15:13] <smaug9> I'm trying to connect to a private wireless network, but authentication is failing. The network is  based on active directory  authentication. I've tried 4 different ways: username@domain.tld, domain/username, domain\username, and username. Any other ways I should try?
[15:13] <lesshaste> arvind_khadri, do you have it too?
[15:13] <cwillu> how does somebody know about Xorg -configure (including the one dash instead of two), and not know about alt-f1?
[15:13] <arvind_khadri> lesshaste, not now... used to have it in Xfce...
[15:13] <smaug9> The network uses WPA/LEAP
[15:13] <lesshaste> arvind_khadri, it's exactly this problem that I see someone else has http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769143
[15:14] <bernz> 'man bluez' -> 'No manual entry for bluez' -- kdog, now i understand your frustration :-)
[15:14] <cwillu> bernz, apropos
[15:14] <prince_jammys> cwillu: google ;)
[15:14] <SmokeyD> cwillu: scponly/sftp login
[15:14] <KevDog> Kingsy101: ???
[15:14] <bernz> cwillu, ah cool, cheers
[15:14] <SunnyDP> :D
[15:14] <cwillu> prince_jammys, apropos sounds more french
[15:14] <HoNgOuRu> ????????
[15:14] <Kingsy101> KevDog - yea its still installing :(
[15:15] <itachi> hello which kernel does ubuntu 8.04 use?
[15:15] <prince_jammys> cwillu: no i meant the answer to your 'how does somebody know..'
[15:15] <arvind_khadri> lesshaste, talk to #compiz-fusion about it
[15:15] <cwillu> prince_jammys, but... but... if they used google for that... then...
[15:15]  * cwillu 's mind is blown
[15:15] <KevDog> itachi -- uname -r will tell you
[15:15] <bernz> well, google is no longer that useful, but the bluez official site itself is REALLY sparse
[15:15] <itachi> KevDog: im not using ubuntu
[15:15] <itachi> right now
[15:15] <cwillu> !info linux hardy
[15:16] <cwillu> 2.6.24
[15:16] <itachi> thx
[15:16] <kdog> !ALSA
[15:16] <Caplain1> does anyone have experience with usb audio input from a webcam?
[15:16] <cwillu> itachi, play much tremulous?
[15:16] <cwillu> bah
[15:16] <Jufis> my sounds only work in rhythmbox, no system sounds or anything else. how can this be?
[15:16] <Wolvenhaven> ok, my server room list isn't populating, is there a room for MONO?
[15:17] <Dr_Willis64> !channels
[15:17] <cwillu> Wolvenhaven, /join #mono
[15:17] <Puddle> basically if you lot could tune in for me i would be greatful sorry to spam all i know its annoying ;) http://67.202.88.141:8888 click here to tune
[15:17] <Puddle> basically if you lot could tune in for me i would be greatful sorry to spam all i know its annoying ;) http://67.202.88.141:8888 click here to tune
[15:17] <Puddle> basically if you lot could tune in for me i would be greatful sorry to spam all i know its annoying ;) http://67.202.88.141:8888 click here to tune
[15:17] <FloodBot2> Puddle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <Dr_Willis64> sorry for the ban also  I guess?
[15:18] <prince_jammys> i would have tuned in had he not misspelled grateful
[15:18] <Dr_Willis64> :)
[15:19] <svensko1> running Xorg -configure with the login screen still running didn't work... i want to run Xorg -configure because i tried to attach an external monitor and now my 3D performance is terrible
[15:19] <Dr_Willis64> or if he had just decided to not spam.
[15:19] <svensko1> in fact everything is sluggish, from dragging windows, to chat, etc
[15:19] <cwillu> svensko1, you missed about 5 people telling you useful stuff right after you disconnected :p
[15:19] <Dr_Willis64> svensko1,  what video card?
[15:19] <svensko1> intel GMA 945 in an acer aspire one
[15:19] <svensko1> ah cwillu well that sucks :(
[15:20] <Dr_Willis64> I got an AcerAspireOne. :)  i dont recall  trying the external video yet on it.
[15:20] <Dr_Willis64> Theres proberly example xorg.conf files out for it.
[15:20] <svensko1> it wasn't pretty... quakeworld would run at 60 FPS steady previous, now it struggles to get 5...
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> svensko1 ctrl alt F1              sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop;Do your driver thing then                    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... Alt-F7
[15:20] <svensko1> ty Jack_Sparrow
[15:20] <prince_jammys> Jack_Spar> svensko1 ctrl alt F1,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new; sudo nvidia-xconfig; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... Alt-F7
[15:20] <prince_jammys> wooops
[15:20] <prince_jammys> looks like i suck today
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> :)  again.. really
[15:21] <cwillu> svensko1, probably the virtual size that got set is bigger than the max texture size of the chipset.  Running metacity instead of compiz (basically, turning off effects) will probably restore 3d performance in any particular app, otherwise, you'll have to shuffle the screens around so that they'll fit in the max size (4096x4096 if memory serves)
[15:21] <bernz> kdog, if you're still listening, look at '/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf' -- looks promising
[15:21] <kalle> local file exists with wrong checksum
[15:21] <Dr_Willis64> svensko1,  some tips and example xorg.conf --> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_One
[15:21] <prince_jammys> haha
[15:22] <prince_jammys> no, you have to tell him within a three second margin.
[15:22] <Mute6565> TuneIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://67.202.88.141:8888
[15:22] <Mute6565> TuneIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://67.202.88.141:8888
[15:22] <Mute6565> TuneIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://67.202.88.141:8888
[15:22] <Mute6565> TuneIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://67.202.88.141:8888
[15:22] <Mute6565> TuneIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://67.202.88.141:8888
[15:22] <FloodBot2> Mute6565: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <SunnyDP> fak off
[15:22] <Tm_T> SunnyDP: stop right there
[15:22] <Jufis> what's with these "tune in!!oneone" spammers?
[15:23] <prince_jammys> too many exclamation points. otherwise, i would have tuned in
[15:23] <SunnyDP> Tm_T: sorry , it gets annoying trying to help and spammers messing my chat cache
[15:23] <kaiiak> crontab -e crontab -r
[15:23] <Tm_T> SunnyDP: still no cursing
[15:24] <bernz> Jufis, presumably, it's just a new twist on the old 'call my 800 number and listen to my spiel, and if you're STUPID AS HELL, you'll get suckered and i make money' type scams
[15:24] <dratone> Hmm, maybe someone could help me with this: I'm using the AMD/ATI drivers, and trying to set up dual-screen. So i used aticonfig --initual=dual-head but now X won't start. I'm trying to restore the normal config now. Any hints on how to set up dual-head?
[15:24] <bernz> (and instead of paying for an 800 number, the scammer is trying to abuse the concept of Internet radio)
[15:25] <Tm_T> bernz: ... no
[15:25] <Jufis> bernz, yeah. probably that
[15:25] <AE2> haha what is "spiel"? cool word
[15:25] <prince_jammys> 'tis a german word
[15:25] <bernz> spiel == game (German); in English, usually applies to a long-winded speech about something
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > bernz
[15:25] <AE2> yeah, and irt;s used her in an English sentence in an interesting way =)
[15:25] <AE2> haha ok, thanks :)
[15:25] <KevDog> Kingsy101: ???
[15:26] <AE2> ok i'll quit being offtopic
[15:26] <AE2> sorry
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[15:26] <bernz> anyway, back to ubuntu: does anyone know if there's a better bluetooth manager than the bundled one? it doesn't seem to even have GUI support for showing profiles when a device has been paired
[15:26] <Kingsy101> KevDog - still installing.. lol this laptop is SLOW.. horrible...
[15:26] <Kingsy101> its rebuliding the DB
[15:27] <kalle> anyone has polini xp4 ???
[15:27] <prince_jammys> kalle: ask a detailed question, and somebody might be able to help
[15:27] <kalle> do you have a polini xp4?
[15:27] <prince_jammys> i don't.
[15:27] <mneptok> !ot > kalle
[15:27] <kalle> noob
[15:28] <prince_jammys> there's another few hundred people to ask
[15:28] <KevDog> Kingsy101: Ridiculous
[15:28] <Wunderbar> how do i get bluetooth and wifi setting logos back on the panel
[15:28] <Dr_Willis64> I have to wonder if anyone knows what Polini xp4 is...
[15:28] <nandato> well..
[15:28]  * mneptok does. and it's -ot.
[15:28] <Kingsy101> KevDog - lo
[15:28] <Kingsy101> l
[15:28] <Wunderbar> mistakingly removed them and it's not as easy as add panel add wifi etc
[15:28] <kalle> someone has ubuntu polini xp4 125cc?
[15:29] <prince_jammys> that's not a detailed question
[15:29] <mneptok> kalle: please move the question to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:29] <Slart> kalle: this is the ubuntu support channel.. do you have a question about ubuntu?
[15:29] <bernz> Wunderbar, make sure your BT adapter is plugged in (i know, you probably already did this)
[15:29] <Viex> At random times my sound will just completely stop working.. no explanation.. nothing.. just stops. And I have to restart to fix it, how can I stop this? It's really irritating.
[15:30]  * mneptok drizzles awe with raw fury
[15:30] <svensko1> something's still screwed up with my 3D, running glxgears gets me ~40 FPS when i was getting a few hundred previous, quakeworld still runs at 5 FPS instead of the 60-90 like it used to
[15:31] <Dr_Willis64> svensko1,  did you get the url i pasted befor you zipped out the channel?
[15:31] <svensko1> no... was it the site with the performance tips for the AAO?
[15:31] <mespejel> hello.. i am installing ubuntu in a vmware machine.. do i need swap partition? or i just installed full guided?
[15:31] <mespejel> virtual machine
[15:32]  * Dr_Willis64 waits a bit befor reposting it.. :)
[15:32] <kalle> are there any nerds?
[15:32] <svensko1> my entire computer is running sluggish, the chat is skipping, etc
[15:32] <Slart> !ops | kalle
[15:32] <Dr_Willis64> svensko1,  some tips and example xorg.conf --> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_One
[15:32] <Viex> At random times my sound will just completely stop working.. no explanation.. nothing.. just stops. And I have to restart to fix it, how can I stop this? It's really irritating.
[15:32] <Joker_-_> mespejel: you can safely install "full guided"
[15:32] <SunnyDP> mespejel: choose 8gb in your vmware settingsand then while you are installing choose Entire Disk
[15:32] <kalle>  
[15:32] <Joker_-_> Viex: it's hars to help if you don't see a correlation between sound cuts.
[15:33] <Viex> Joker_-_, much makes it that much more frustrating
[15:33] <Viex> which*
[15:33] <KevDog> svensko1: get a gun!
[15:33] <mespejel> SunnyDP: yeah i did that.. so no manual to get some swap? i will not have any problem without swap?
[15:33] <Joker_-_> Viex: I understand. But I have no clue :(
[15:33] <SunnyDP> nah man
[15:33] <SunnyDP> entire disk creates swap automaticaly
[15:33] <kitche> Viex most likely it's not random it's either OSS programs or pulseaudio programs causing the program with OSS only one program can run at a time with sound unless youuse alsa overlayed oss
[15:34] <Wunderbar> i think i've been misunderstood. OK. By default there is a symbol for wifi and one for bluetooth on the panel. I accidently removed both but cannot see a way to add them again. How do I do this?
[15:34] <SunnyDP> mespejel: are you running it right now ?
[15:34] <Viex> Hmm.
[15:34] <Viex> How would I switch everything to alsa without breaking something
[15:34] <Slart> Wunderbar: sounds like you removed the notification area.. right click on the gnome panel, select "+Add" .. find the notification area applet in that list and add it
[15:35] <mespejel> SunnyDP: yeah.. and just i select the 8gb.. i guess i can change that later and add more space? im using vmware fusion btw.. i just want to be sure i do not need swap partition
[15:35] <wasabi> Hey. I have an Atom motherboard. Should I use i386, lpia?
[15:35] <Wunderbar> thanks Slart- appreciated
[15:35] <Kingsy101> xubuntu-desktop isnt fully blown ubuntu is it? I take it, its a lite weight version?
[15:35] <SunnyDP> mespejel: no you cannot, you can if you really want but it will take time
[15:36] <SunnyDP> Kingsy101: still trying to get a GUI ?
[15:36] <mespejel> SunnyDP: well doesnt matter i install it again later, i just want to try it anyway.. so just guided? no swap?
[15:36] <Kingsy101> its intalling but its taking AGES
[15:36] <Slart> Kingsy101: it's still a fully blown ubuntu.. minus some of the polish and bling bling.. you can still run all the software and such
[15:36] <KevDog> Kingsy101: no its lightweight
[15:36] <mespejel> SunnyDP: cool then... anyway i read somewhere that i can build a file partition later on
[15:36] <Kingsy101> KevDog cool
[15:36] <mespejel> SunnyDP: swap file
[15:37] <Kingsy101> shouldnt be much longer
[15:37] <Kingsy101> i hope
[15:37] <Slart> Kingsy101: it's lite only if you mean in hardware requirements
[15:37] <DiAbLe666> good afternoon
[15:37] <bernz> Wunderbar, let us know if Slart's suggestion worked, for reference ;-)
[15:37] <SunnyDP> mespejel: vmware = go ahead if you mess up, go again, and if you mess up, go take a walk, and go at it again :D
[15:37] <KevDog> Kingsy101: everything is ubuntu -- even fluxbox -- its just that the display manager is lite -- I run e17 on my POS laptop -- its a lot more peppier than gnome
[15:37] <mespejel> SunnyDP: yeah lol
[15:37] <mespejel> SunnyDP: thanks
[15:38] <dekkong> Hello guys! I have a problem with my home folder ... after a while I cant acces the home folder
[15:38] <Wunderbar> Slart's recommendation worked fine
[15:38] <SunnyDP> dekkong: precisely please ? details ?
[15:38] <DiAbLe666> I have an ubuntu without any internet connectivity, i'm trying to install some fonts, apt try to download an .exe file, I downloaded it from an other workstation but I don't know where I should put it for apt
[15:39] <dekkong> SunnyDP: Ok ... My desktop gets untouchable and when I click on my home folder in the Places bar nothing happens
[15:39] <JonathanEllis> I am trying to fix ubuntu. It was working before I installed windows. Now I have reinstalled grub to the mbr but as I had to change the partitions around before installing windows the menu.lst is incorrect. I have managed to manually boot from a grub prompt. But now I am stuck in BusyBox with an (initramfs) prompt. I am trying to follow http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/waiting_for_root_file_system.html. When I type ls -l /boot I get No such file or
[15:39] <wasabi> Hey. I have an Atom motherboard. Should I use i386, lpia?
[15:39] <Dr_Willis64> DiAbLe666,  if you want toinstall the MS fonts.. you could just copy them over from a windows machine and copy them to your users .fonts directory
[15:39] <SunnyDP> dekkong:  when did you install ?
[15:39] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, create a aptoncd from the other machine... and then add that cd through apt
[15:40] <dekkong> SunnyDP: maybe 1 month ago
[15:40] <Joker_-_> Viex: I believe alsa is installed by default, altho pulseaudio is the default manager in ubuntu. swiching from an audio server to an other shouldn tbreak anything.
[15:40] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, sudo apt-cdrom add
[15:40] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: the other workstation is a windows vista :p
[15:40] <SunnyDP> dekkong:  easy fix is : sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[15:40] <SunnyDP> but wait for better support on the subject please
[15:40] <DiAbLe666> we have very strict policy about http browsing
[15:41] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, you cant use .exe with apt anyways
[15:41] <dekkong> SunnyDP: yeah cuz this is a real pain in the ass
[15:41] <SunnyDP> i know :D
[15:41] <arvind_khadri> dekkong, which ubuntu?
[15:41] <dekkong> arvind_khadri: 8.10
[15:41] <arvind_khadri> dekkong, googled?
[15:42] <dekkong> arvind_khadri: No I have not
[15:42] <arvind_khadri> dekkong, its your best friend :)
[15:42] <dekkong> arvind_khadri: yeah I know :P
[15:42] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: I wonder if there is a directory where apt stores downloaded files, and maybe if i put the file in that directory, it will process without trying to download it
[15:42] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, you cant make apt use the .exe ....
[15:42] <paperdragons> Hey everyone could someone point me in the right direction for help downgrading a package?
[15:43] <grimmjow_> salut tlm
[15:43] <SlimeyPete> !downgrade
[15:43] <Joker_-_> grimmjow_: !fr
[15:43] <grimmjow_> oh ok sorry
[15:43] <SlimeyPete> hrm... ubottu is unhelpful ;)
[15:43] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: this is not my fault if apt wants to download an exe file while installing MS-fonts
[15:43] <Joker_-_> grimmjow_: pas de troubles ;)
[15:43] <paperdragons> I don't want to downgrade the whole version of Ubuntu, just one package...
[15:44] <JonathanEllis> Can I install ubuntu on a machine with no bootable cd drive? I can only boot from a floppy
[15:44] <Joker_-_> hey anyone knows the name of the tuner box one can plug to an HDTV signal and it'll broadcast the signal over network?
[15:45] <porter1> paperdragons, simply uninstall the current package, and then find the older package you want....
[15:45] <gionnico> hi!
[15:45] <gionnico> how is the printer software called?
[15:45] <gionnico> i use ubuntu and 'd like to use the same as ubuntu one
[15:45] <Dr_Willis64> !cups | gionnico
[15:45] <keystr0k> can anyone recommend a program with simple drawing features? I need a *fast* way to throw some arrows, text, circles into screenshots.
[15:45] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, are you talking about msttcorefonts?
[15:45] <gionnico> uhm i'm talking about the gtk interface
[15:45] <gionnico> under the gnome system menu
[15:46] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: yes I a,
[15:46] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: yes I am
[15:46] <JonathanEllis> keystr0k: Use gimp
[15:46] <keystr0k> JonathanEllis, yeah... I could. heh. Looking for something even quicker.
[15:46] <paperdragons> porterl, I can only get the tarball of the version I want, and I'm not sure where to go from there
[15:46] <SmokeyD> nice, I have now setup a script that adds a users, sets up a chroot jail for  the new user for sftp (scponly), and creates a basic drupal (cms) site
[15:46] <jahid> Can anyone tell me, how can stop my firewall or how can I ask my firewall to open some specific ports for me?
[15:46] <JonathanEllis> keystr0k: OpenOffice draw?
[15:47] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, msttcorefonts is a meta package...
[15:47] <arvind_khadri> !metapackage | DiAbLe666,
[15:48] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: yep I know that
[15:48] <keystr0k> JonathanEllis, wow... draw is perfect :)  thanks :)
[15:48] <JonathanEllis> keystr0k: No problem
[15:49] <enzo_> mi potete spiegare come scaricare un cd da ubuntu grazie
[15:49] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: I installed the dependecies of mttcorefonts, but in the post installation he wants to download andala32.exe
[15:49] <Myrtti> !it | enzo_
[15:50] <SmokeyD> hey people, is there a script or command or something that autogenerates a password for me?
[15:50] <SmokeyD> one I could use both for system accounts and mysql users?
[15:50] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, sudo apt-get install -f
[15:51] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: that what i'm doing
[15:51] <JonathanEllis> SmokeyD: In users and groups there is a button which generates a password for a use
[15:51] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, you dont have net connected on the machine?
[15:51] <remoteCTRL> err.. what was the command to mount a luks encrypted hdd?
[15:51] <SmokeyD> JonathanEllis: thanks, but I was referring to a script :)
[15:51] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: i can't connect it, this is restricted :)
[15:51] <SmokeyD> I don't have a graphical interface
[15:51] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: only local network, i can upload this f*cking exe file to the ubuntu
[15:51] <JonathanEllis> SmokeyD: Sorry I cant help in that case
[15:52] <SmokeyD> :) no problem. Found it already. pwgen
[15:52] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, no shorthands please..
[15:52] <oCean_> DiAbLe666: don't use that kind of language here
[15:52] <DiAbLe666> arf sry
[15:53] <Dr_Willis64> I find it easier to just get the various ms fonts from other ms machines and isnall them manually
[15:53] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: on gentoo you have a distifle directory where portage looks if the file is already downloaded, is there a such thing on ubuntu ?
[15:54] <remoteCTRL> can anyone help me mount and access an encrypted hdd please?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> DiAbLe666 /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:54] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:54] <DiAbLe666> haaa :)
[15:54] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, but that will have the .debs
[15:54] <DiAbLe666> I'm giving a try
[15:54] <kryptik> hey Jack_Sparrow, safe graphics worked.
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kryptik cool, at least got you installed
[15:55] <theteam> hi!!
[15:55] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: in deed, it doesn't work
[15:55] <kryptik> well I know my way around linux enough to use it, I just never actually installed it myself, let alone on my own machine I build 4 years ago :S
[15:55] <kryptik> I'm on xchat :)
[15:56] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, you need to have a aptoncd or the whole source of fonts as .deb
[15:56] <SunnyDP> i'm on pidgin thanks to ActionParsnips
[15:56] <kryptik> Now I just have to figure out why in the hell debian does the same thing T_T
[15:56] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: ok.. thanks
[15:57] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, np ...
[15:57] <theteam> here is someone of the ubuntu-guid??
[15:58] <kryptik> One thing I'm confused on...does Ubuntu by default only allow you to create an account and add it to sudoers?
[15:58] <kryptik> It didn't ask me for a root password or anything, but I can sudo.
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> kryptik if you are asking, yes that is how to do it
[15:58] <arvind_khadri> !root | kryptik
[15:58] <Myrtti> kryptik: yes
[15:59] <prince_jammys> kryptik: it adds the first user to the admin group and to sudoers
[15:59] <SlimeyPete> kryptik: There's no root account by default, so yes everything is done via sudo
[15:59] <LuYu> is there any simple way to block and interface from network manager's all seeing eye?
[16:00] <remoteCTRL> anyone familiar with luks?
[16:00] <kryptik> lol, it sounds like there are alot of people that ask how to login as root... >_>
[16:00] <hatter243> LuYu, define it in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> kryptik SImple concept..  safer for new users
[16:01] <BigJibby> In epiphany the seahorse plugin is installed, but the context menu doesn't show the "encrypt stuff" when I right click on a textarea. Anyone know anything about this?
[16:02] <kryptik> Meh, should be done anyways.
[16:02] <kryptik> One less thing I don't have to do. :3
[16:02] <kryptik> or...one more thing I don't have to do...
[16:03] <pinkpotato> How can i view the ssl cert when connected to a eap-ttls wifi network?
[16:04] <ironfroggy_> is it possible to configure a static IP for a wireless interface?
[16:06] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: Yes.
[16:06] <fde> ironfroggy_: sure...
[16:07] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: check out /etc/network/interfaces
[16:07] <LuYu> so, if i define usb0 in interfaces, network manager wont try to set it up
[16:07] <LuYu> hmmm
[16:07] <arvind_khadri> LuYu, its lo
[16:07] <fde> ironfroggy_: if you're using gnome, its very trivial... the two computers side by side in the system tray next to the clock... just right click > edit connections > then add a new wireless and make it static... voila
[16:07] <ironfroggy_> ok but i dont then know how to get the interface to actually establish a connection, since the only thing that seems to work is dhclient wlan1
[16:08] <fde> ironfroggy_: its pretty hard to get it wrong really
[16:08] <Tulga> I installed squid 2 on A box and squid 3 on B box. but my B box's proxy IP looks real IP, but A box's IP detected. what is difference?
[16:08] <ironfroggy_> fde: ive not been able to get any of the gui's to work, only via command line
[16:08] <ironfroggy_> network-manager is doing something wrong and it never connects
[16:08] <ironfroggy_> so im invoking dhclient on startup to get connected
[16:09] <fde> ironfroggy_: one thing that is rather annoying that I've encountered, seems I have to actually enter the entire HEX for the WPA key... but other than that, I've never had issues.
[16:09] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: network-manager is carp. it's just as easy to read a simple tutorial on /etc/network/interfaces and just do it that way. you actually kill two birds with one stone as well.
[16:09] <ironfroggy_> so it ignores my configuration that i already have put in /etc/network/interfaces (which i already use and work fine with all the wired boxes i have)
[16:09] <ironfroggy_> fde: no key
[16:09] <ironfroggy_> xGeek: but ive already done that. i already knew how to do that, but it doesnt work for my wireless interface.
[16:10] <jj193> Hi
[16:10] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[16:10] <s-toned> How do I change the "mouse-resize-button" from middle button  to right button?
[16:11] <jj193> Can anyone help me (nooby problem), i have just put all my files onto this computer, turns out i dont have permissions for some odd reason. How would i set about giving myself permission to edit/delete them?
[16:11] <ironfroggy_> http://mibbit.com/pb/dr7SWB
[16:11] <Quagmire> Hello Guys, I'm going to give it another try. When I reboot my 8.10 pc, there will be 2 to 4 wireless connections (my neighbors) that show up immediately in the list of wireless networks that are available, but MY wireless router takes 2 to 4 minutes to show up in the list. I'm positive that I created this mess when I was first starting with Ubuntu and I "figure" my connection is set up as hidden network, but I'm not sure that is the p
[16:11] <fde> xGeek: heh, I don't usually like to try to advice interfaces on IRC... too complicated to explain  :o
[16:11] <ptn107> jj193: where are your files stored
[16:11] <jj193> on my hard disk
[16:12] <ptn107> jj193: what folder
[16:12] <fde> ironfroggy_: at least look at man interfaces examples... you're missing a bunch of stuff.
[16:12] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_-> big typo  iface wlan1 inet status   <-- should be static
[16:12] <jj193> home folder mainly, one is in the recycle bin but i cant delete/get rid of it
[16:12] <ironfroggy_> fde: i didnt include the loopback, which already existed, just pasted what i actually added.
[16:12] <remoteCTRL> can someone please point me the way to a howto on mounting luks encrypted disks? i don't seem to ask google the right questions...
[16:13] <ptn107> jj193: so you don't have permissions to do anything to the files in your home folder?
[16:13] <jj193> I can read them
[16:13] <fde> ironfroggy_: I'm saying, for instance you're not even defining essid in there atm
[16:13] <jj193> but not delete them
[16:13] <jj193> Ubuntu 8.04
[16:13] <ptn107> jj193: but not save changes?
[16:13] <m> السلام عليكم
[16:13] <jj193> if it was a word file i would have to save it, make a duplicate and edit that - but cant change original
[16:14] <n8tuserf> Quagmire-> yes if you config your AP to be hiding the essid, it will not show on the list
[16:14] <ironfroggy_> fde: hm, see, i learned to use this before i used wireless. i didnt know it required additional settings in there for wireless versus wired (i already configured the wlan1 settings via iwconfig)
[16:14] <ishang> ji193 the solution to the problem is to right click on the file and there is a permission tab and you can give yourself permission from there
[16:14] <m> عــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــرب
[16:14] <ironfroggy_> and 'man interfaces' says nothing about essid at all, btw
[16:14] <jj193> I have done, but for every file it would take ages, is there a quick way?
[16:14] <fde> ironfroggy_: yeah... add a wireless-essid <ESSID> line
[16:15] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: http://pastebin.com/m632233b4
[16:15] <ptn107> jj193: go to Places -> Computer
[16:15] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, how do I go about fixing the issues though? I honestly don't know what to do
[16:15] <n8tuserf> Quagmire-> fix your own AP settings
[16:15] <Quagmire> AP?
[16:15] <ironfroggy_> why doesnt my man page include that?
[16:15] <fde> ironfroggy_: guess you don't need -key or -channel ... so that is probably fine
[16:15] <Quagmire> I have Broadcast set to on in my router
[16:15] <jj193> What then, inside computer
[16:15] <ptn107> jj193: let me know when your there
[16:15] <ptn107> jj193: ok
[16:15] <ishang> or you can use terminal in superuser mode and give the folder permissions using chmod.. if you are single user on comp then you can give it 777 permission
[16:15] <xGeek> fde: He said it was open I thought.
[16:15] <ptn107> jj193: now double click filesystem
[16:16] <ptn107> jj193: then double click the folder called 'home'
[16:16] <fde> xGeek: yeah... just hinting at some other options for no apparent reason
[16:16] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> AP == access point
[16:16] <n8tuserf> !who
[16:16] <JonathanEllis> How do I install ubuntu when I cant boot from a cd?
[16:16] <xGeek> JonathanEllis: Can you boot from a USB stick?
[16:16] <ptn107> jj193: do you see a folder there with your username?
[16:16] <veragirl^cam> hi there, i was wondering if anyone could helpme by telling me how do i do to install ubuntu whithout formating my HD, because I want to keep windows installed in a different HD partition??? anyone plz?
[16:16] <n8tuserf> ishang not to wise of an advise to make all folders 777 even if single user
[16:17] <jj193> yes
[16:17] <jj193> I do
[16:17] <ptn107> jj193: right click it, and select properties
[16:17] <JonathanEllis> xGeek: No. The machine wont boot from usb
[16:17] <ptn107> jj193: click the permissions tab
[16:17] <jj193> Thanks very much
[16:17] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, AP = wireless router in this discussion? If so I have already checked my router and it had broadcast turned on already.
[16:17] <jj193> Great help
[16:17] <fde> JonathanEllis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation lists some options
[16:17] <xGeek> JonathanEllis: Network. :P
[16:17] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> you need to read up more on AP/router  broadcast is not the issue here
[16:18] <fde> veragirl^cam: check out wubi-installer.org
[16:18] <ptn107> jj193: make sure the top where is says owner you can 'create and delete folders' and 'read and write' files
[16:18] <DiAbLe666> arvind_khadri: I finally removed the packages, downloaded the fonts, cabextracts them and put them in the right place .. thank you anyway
[16:18] <veragirl^cam> i'll try again: hi there, i was wondering if anyone could helpme by telling me how do i do to install ubuntu whithout formating my HD, because I want to keep windows installed in a different HD partition??? anyone plz?
[16:18] <ptn107> jj193: then click 'apply permissions to enclose files' at the bottom
[16:18] <fde> veragirl^cam: you have to wait longer than 5 seconds... calm down
[16:18] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, np ...
[16:18] <JonathanEllis> fde: xGeek: Thanks. I will try the network option
[16:19] <arvind_khadri> DiAbLe666, did my advice work btw :P
[16:19] <ironfroggy_> i added the essid and took the interface down and back up, but its just keeping my dynamic ip
[16:19] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, Access Point ...I'm sorry for my ignorance on the subject, but I ZERO clue where to begin.
[16:19] <veragirl^cam> fde: oh thx, now I know someone is reading me :) I'll wait, thx
[16:19] <jj193> Ok done that
[16:19] <fde> veragirl^cam: I told you your friggin answer, pay attention
[16:19] <ptn107> jj193: now try to edit your files
[16:19] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> oh well, you could start using google to search for info on using wireless
[16:19] <LuYu> that totally didnt work
[16:19] <n8tuserf> !wireless | Quagmire
[16:19] <jj193> Works.
[16:19] <jj193> Thankyou so much
[16:20] <fde> veragirl^cam: www.wubi-installer.org <-- click
[16:20] <ptn107> jj193: no prob
[16:20] <prince_jammys> veragirl^cam: the live cd installer can deal with that, if you're talking about dual booting
[16:20] <LuYu> i tried "noauto usb0", "manual usb0", "iface usb0 noauto"
[16:20] <LuYu> none of those things worked
[16:20] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, thanks for the "details" you have officially muddied the water and I know about what I did when I first asked.
[16:20] <LuYu> network manager doesnt seem to care what the interfaces file says
[16:21] <veragirl^cam> prince_jammys ok, may I pm you?
[16:21] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> it is also unwise to have multiple nics on same subnets, it confuses your host to which route it should take.. nic1 or nic2 ?
[16:21] <prince_jammys> veragirl^cam: use the main channel
[16:21] <fde> prince_jammys: she wants to not touch her windows partitions... which is basically the point of wubi  :) (it creates a virtual disk which ends up being dual bootable)
[16:21] <Chousuke> LuYu: NM ignores interfaces that have settings in the interfaces file
[16:21] <prince_jammys> ah, ok
[16:21] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> if you refuse to read, sorry cant help you
[16:21] <LuYu> really?
[16:22] <LuYu> okay
[16:22] <LuYu> ill try again
[16:22] <fde> veragirl^cam: why aren't you reading wubi-installer.org ?
[16:22] <ironfroggy_> n8tuserf: do you mean multiple nics on one client?
[16:22] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, I have stacks for books, but I've had no luck.
[16:22] <Lukas___> Hello to all, someone know some software like "PhPMaker" for Linux ??
[16:22] <ironfroggy_> or across all of them?
[16:22] <Quagmire> I'm all about learning
[16:22] <fde> Lukas___: depends, what does phpmaker do?
[16:22] <Jeruvy> !packages | Lukas___
[16:23] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> if you consider your hosts as a client yes..dont have multiple paths to get out, unless you know how to manage the route table
[16:23] <veragirl^cam> prince_jammys: fine. i want to install the ubuntu in a different HD partition. the XP is already installed, but I was wondering if the ubuntu installation disk will allow me to create a second hd partition so I can install ububtu in this new partition
[16:23] <Edico> Hi
[16:23] <Edico> someone use Darklooks theme?
[16:23] <ironfroggy_> n8tuserf: i dont have multiple paths to get out. im only using one nic.
[16:23] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> simple terms like AP , umm you should have known, so am not sure if you are really reading those books
[16:23] <fde> veragirl^cam: I have told you your answer 5 times now. Wubi will allow you to install Ubuntu within your Windows partition without formatting anything.
[16:24] <Lukas___> fde: PhPMaker its a code generator for PhP & MySQL, make automatic pages in PhP
[16:24] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> you sure? wireless and ethernet nics? or just wireless? how are you chatting now? on same hosts?
[16:24] <Edico> I have a problem with Darklooks theme: it doesn't remain after reboot
[16:24] <veragirl^cam> ok.... thx
[16:24] <prince_jammys> fde: it appears that she wants to install it in its own partition
[16:24] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, I'll let it go, but I thought I'd get something a little meatier ....I usually do, but this issue has not gotten much attention.
[16:25] <ironfroggy_> n8tuserf: wireless only. and oh i can get the wlan1 to connect just fine, i just can't get it to do so without DHCP, and i want a static IP.
[16:25] <fde> prince_jammys: ahh, yes, her new wording does seem that way... my bad
[16:25] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> is it working though or not?
[16:26] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> is the machine you are using to chat now same as where you're trying to resolve your wifi issues?
[16:26] <ironfroggy_> no
[16:26] <xGeek> oh crap I forgot.
[16:26] <xGeek> if you're trying to define static IP's in the range of the DHCP server on your network it won't work.
[16:27] <ironfroggy_> im not
[16:27] <xGeek> ok.
[16:27] <Quagmire> n8tuserf the router is working, its just a pain waiting around to get it started each time I boot the computer. It's a setting in Ubuntu ....and I know that stumbled around and created it a few months ago when I was first starting.
[16:27] <ironfroggy_> all my dynamics are >100 and statics <100
[16:27] <eraldo> how can I reset usb ? Nothing happens anymore when I plug an USB stick in
[16:27] <eraldo> Ubuntu Hardy 8.04
[16:27] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: That interfaces file I sent to you didn't work?
[16:28] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> what do you exactly meant by waiting around to get started?
[16:28] <ironfroggy_> xGeek: no
[16:28] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: I'm starting to thing that network-manager is interfering. Start by removing all the saved networks in network-manager.
[16:28] <bastid_raZor> eraldo; mount them manually after you plug them in.
[16:28] <xGeek> If it were me I'd uninstall it but I don't recommend you do that.
[16:28] <ironfroggy_> i dont use network-manager
[16:28] <ironfroggy_> what i said before is that it doesnt work
[16:28] <Jeruvy> xGeek: there are/were some really interesting bugs with network manager...
[16:28] <Fruzen> Please help me install C Compiler .. I can't run ./configure :S!!!
[16:28] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> post your /etc/network/interfaces  even with the modification xGeek  suggested
[16:29] <ironfroggy_> the only way i can get my wireless to work is by manually configuring it via iwconfig and invoking dhclient wlan1 when i want to connect
[16:29] <KevDog> Fruzen: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[16:29] <eraldo> bastid_raZor: I want to make it work automatically again
[16:29] <Quagmire> n8tuserf it takes around 3 minutes for MY router to show up in the list ...all of my neighbors show up immediately.
[16:29] <ptn107> Fruzen: sudo apt-get install build-essential  ?
[16:29] <ironfroggy_> http://mibbit.com/pb/9qrqmr
[16:29] <KevDog> Fruzen: aptitude/apt-get doesn't matter
[16:29] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> what channel your AP is on? thought about moving it?
[16:29] <ptn107> tru
[16:29] <n8tuserf> !who | ironfroggy_
[16:29] <Fruzen> Reading package lists... Done
[16:29] <Fruzen> Building dependency tree... Done
[16:29] <Fruzen> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[16:30] <cern_> hi
[16:30] <xGeek> ath0?
[16:30] <xGeek> are you running madwifi?
[16:30] <Myrtti> Fruzen: hello, could you do lsb_release -a
[16:30] <kraut> moin
[16:30] <Fruzen> KevDog...
[16:30] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, I'm on 9 - 2.452Ghz
[16:30] <ironfroggy_> xGeek: was that to me?
[16:30] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> and your neighbors?
[16:31] <ptn107> Fruzen: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources, make sure main, universe, restricted, multiverse are checked
[16:31] <Huufarted> Question about wireless:  I installed VIrtualBox, immediately uninstalled it, but now my wireless connections no longer show up.  DId it revert my ath5k back to the standard drivers in the process?
[16:31] <cern_> is it the good place to have some support about ubuntu?
[16:31] <SlimeyPete> cern_: yes
[16:31] <burkmat> Fruzen, try `sudo apt-get update` first?
[16:31] <Myrtti> Fruzen: hello, could you do "lsb_release -r" on the command line
[16:31] <arvind_khadri> !ask | cern_
[16:31] <ptn107> Fruzen: then close that and try again
[16:31] <SlimeyPete> it's the best place
[16:31] <Kingsy101> KevDog - ok its done
[16:31] <Kingsy101> should I just restart now?
[16:31] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, I have no idea what their routers are listed as
[16:31] <cern_> well, just bought a new pc, he is "stamped" with vista
[16:31] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> why do you have those other eth0,ethx,ath0, mentioned, delete them
[16:31] <cern_> so i installed ubuntu in vista
[16:32] <Kingsy101> KevDog - cos its just went back to the standard terminal
[16:32] <erUSUL> Huufarted: maybe you are using now the wrong kernel
[16:32] <ironfroggy_> n8tuserf: they were there when i installed. i never added them.
[16:32] <burkmat> cern_, I recommend fire or acid for the sticker stuck on your chassi. :p
[16:32] <erUSUL> Huufarted: what does "uname -a" returns ?
[16:32] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> it should show up as part of the listing..what channels they operate on
[16:32] <Huufarted> checking, stand by
[16:32] <cern_> i can't read no videos with totem nor vlc
[16:32] <Huufarted> erUSUL, it shows 2.6.27-11
[16:32] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> remove those you dont need,,leave the l0  and the wlan1
[16:32] <erUSUL> Huufarted: but is generic or 386
[16:33] <dayo> cern_: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:33] <Huufarted> Linux art-eee-ubuntu 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:33] <ironfroggy_> ok, done
[16:33] <dayo> cern_: after that: sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[16:33] <n8tuserf> ironfroggy_ -> you using any kind of encryption?
[16:33] <cern_> dayo, i'm going to test thanks
[16:33] <ironfroggy_> no
[16:33] <n8tuserf> !who | ironfroggy_
[16:33] <dayo> cern_: u're welcome
[16:33] <ironfroggy_> most of my traffic is tunneling over ssh anyway, so its kind of pointless.
[16:33] <n8tuserf> am not going to respond to you anymore .. ironfroggy_
[16:34] <erUSUL> Huufarted: wron hypothesis... sorry
[16:34] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, I'm looking for my neighbors, but I'm not seeing them ...which program will show them?
[16:34] <dayo> cern_: i'm getting off work, now. but i'll still be in here, so let me know if it worked or not.
[16:34] <ironfroggy_> n8tuserf: habits are hard to break. dont diss human nature.
[16:34] <Huufarted> hehe, no problem erUSUL.  Any help is welcome
[16:34] <ironfroggy_> n8tuserf: but ill keep it in mind, sorry.
[16:34] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:34] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, thank you
[16:35] <Huufarted> *sigh* I guess it's time for an ath5k recompile and reinstall...
[16:35] <ironfroggy_> i think i give up anyway
[16:35] <ironfroggy_> its impossible.
[16:35] <ironfroggy_> n8tuserf: i think something is not right with my setup in the first place, anyway, otherwise network-manager would work.
[16:35] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> typical search of drivers usually starts at 1 then 2..til it hits 12 and then back round robin
[16:36] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, it brought back ...No scan results
[16:36] <LuYu> well, it doesnt seem to matter how it is defined, NM comes up with an auto usb0
[16:36] <ptn107> can anyone tell me why i have to install openssh-server, openssh-blacklist, and openssh-blacklist-extra separately?  the blacklist packages are dependencies of openssh-server!  debian pulls them in fine whats wrong with ubuntu (just curious)
[16:36] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> i used wlan0 assuming your wifi nic name is wlan0, it could have been eth0, eht1, or ath0,,
[16:36] <LuYu> if i define it as manual, it doesnt work
[16:36] <LuYu> if i define the interface as static, it doesnt work
[16:36] <erUSUL> ptn107: may they are recommended packages?
[16:36] <xGeek> ironfroggy_: What happens when you do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:36] <Myrtti> Fruzen: could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere? since you can't find the build-essential you've got to have something wrong there
[16:37] <ptn107> wait wait, ya - they are 'suggested packages' in intrepid, they weren't in hardy
[16:37] <LuYu> i imagine defining it as dhcp would have no effect either
[16:37] <burkmat> Myrtti, Has he run `apt-get update`?
[16:37] <ptn107> thats stupid
[16:37] <bp5101> anyone mind willing to take a quick look at the cmnd_alias portion of my sudoers file.  visudo keeps telling me each of these lines contain errors, and for the life of me they look correct. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d11b52a3f
[16:38] <Myrtti> burkmat: if he'd answer even one of the questions I've asked him
[16:38] <burkmat> Myrtti, Ah... Alright. :p
[16:38] <LuYu> do these things have to be defined before network manager starts?
[16:38] <ironfroggy_> xGeek: thank you! i thought ifconfig wlan1 down/up would bring in the new settings, but that did the trick
[16:38] <Kingsy101> lol after all of that.. it crashes on booting up.. LOL
[16:38] <Myrtti> of course, that would solve it as well...
[16:38] <burkmat> :D
[16:39] <enthused> Hi. What is the correct way to get a ubuntu system to return its version on the command line? I need to be able to differentiate between systems running debian and systems running ubuntu
[16:40] <bp5101> cat /proc/version
[16:40] <erUSUL> enthused: lsb_release -a
[16:40] <erUSUL> !version > enthused
[16:40] <enthused> thanks
[16:40] <cern__> hi again
[16:40] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, you are talking about the name of my wireless network? Dang I hate being confused and asking for clarifications
[16:41] <cern__> dayo, didn't worked
[16:41] <mrtv> hi all
[16:41] <cern__> hi
[16:41] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> thats why I strongly advised you to read those tutorials and books,   :P
[16:41] <wemdowemd> Xubuntu is faster, or at least requires less resources than Ubuntu + Gnome. How do I convert The latter to the former, as in get the resulting speed increases rather than just slapping Xfce over the top of what's already there. The forum keeps just suggesting clean install which is not an option for me.
[16:41] <prince_jammys> enthused: that may fail on debian boxes that don't have lsb-release installed.
[16:42] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> nic == network interface card
[16:42] <cern__> since dayo seems afk, i'm asking again : i can't read no video file with totem nor vlc, it forces me to reboot (ubuntu 8.04)
[16:42] <SlimeyPete> wemdowemd: use synaptic/apt-get to install xubuntu-desktop
[16:42] <SlimeyPete> wemdowemd: that'll give you both on one system; you can then remove ubuntu-desktop to get rid of GNOME if you want
[16:42] <Quagmire> .LOL I actually know about nics ...I'm not quite as dense as I appear at the moment
[16:42] <Dr_Willis64> wemdowemd,  it shouldnet matter if you got gnome + xfce insttalled. speed wise. It depoends on what one you are running at the time. Unless drive space is an issue
[16:42] <ptn107> SlimeyPete: doesn't that only get rid of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage ?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis64> ermoving ubuntu-desktop wont remove much :)
[16:43] <tesseracter> help. when i upgrade my kernel, my BIOS cannot find it, its above the maximum cylinder. i do not have a boot partition, i was told i didnt need one. how can i move the new kernel to the right position on the HD???
[16:43] <ptn107> thought so
[16:43] <Dr_Willis64> try it and see :)
[16:43] <n8tuserf> Quagmire -> iwconfig   and it should list the nic with wireless features
[16:43] <SlimeyPete> ptn107: hrm... actually you may be right, yes
[16:43] <SlimeyPete> it used to get rid of everything but I think they changed that
[16:44] <Lasivian> is there any way I can test my video framerate? I tried playing a gl game and got a framerate of 0
[16:44] <ptn107> SlimeyPete: i tried it once had to remove packages one by one, it sucked
[16:44] <Lasivian> I think there is something wrong with my video
[16:44] <wemdowemd> ptn107, Dr_Willis64: Should I want to remove Gnome and related desktop stuff that you wouldn't get on Xubuntu, how would I go about it?
[16:44] <cern__> should i try to reinstall ubuntu?
[16:45] <Workk1> OK
[16:45] <jtaji> !purexfce | wemdowemd
[16:45] <prince_jammys> !purexfce
[16:45] <mrtv> i am searching for an official vserver enabled kernel for ubuntu server. I found only howtos for patching and compiling the kernel manually. but i would like to take the advantage of ubuntus security update support
[16:45] <Workk1> I need to know... when you install Ubuntu and you choose your name... then it means you are a root user is this true?
[16:45] <wemdowemd> jtaji: Amazing thanks
[16:45] <jtaji> Workk1: you are in the admin group and able to use sudo
[16:45] <ptn107> Workk1: no, not true
[16:45] <jtaji> !sudo | Workk1
[16:46] <gotcha> my wlan is shown as eth1 and not as wlan0, any suggestions to solve this?
[16:46] <Workk1> ptnl07 then how to become a root user
[16:46] <Lasivian> gotcha: does it work?
[16:46] <n8tuserf> gotcha -> there is a udev rule somewhere in /etc/udev/rules.d/ you can modify, google for how to make udev rules please
[16:46] <ptn107> Workk1: use sudo, you have no reason to be using the root account
[16:46] <gotcha> yeah, but i want to test my home network and aircrack etc doesn't work with eth1 Lasivian
[16:46] <gotcha> don't think it handles it as a wlan
[16:46] <cern__> Workk1, sudo or su
[16:47] <aar> Hi, I've got a large document imported from a text file in openoffice. Is it possible to convert all straight quotation marks (") into the curvy quotation marks?
[16:47] <Workk1> ptnl07: how to use sudo
[16:47] <jtaji> Workk1: the link ubottu just gave you has all the info
[16:47] <ptn107> Workk1: but if you want to,  sudo passwd root           will do it
[16:47] <brandonban6> hello people....I have an issue where my user switcher panel will not load.........I'm wondering if it is a bad user account or something, but honestly I'm not sure which logs to even check. Does anyone have some advice?
[16:47] <Jeruvy> aar: see awk and sed.
[16:47] <Voot> working on a standard installation of ubuntu server version 6.10. For no aparent reason, the server has packets being sent to and from an undernet IRC server, and it's also launching its own ssh brute force attacks on other servers. Anyone have any ideas as to where my security hole is?
[16:47] <cern__> Workk1, type sudo before any command you want to run as root
[16:47] <Workk1> ptnl07 i am trying to install some software.. but it says install it as a root user
[16:47] <mrtv> is there anyone here with vserver experience?
[16:47] <Guest52875> http://stagstrat.labrute.fr/
[16:47] <Workk1> cern__,  thanks.. let me try
[16:47] <Lasivian> gotcha: "airmon-ng start eth1 2" fails?
[16:48] <cern__> Workk1 then do sudo install (or sudo apt-get install or whatever)
[16:48] <ptn107> Workk1: using sudo temporarily gives you root privileges
[16:48] <cern__> someone for my video problem :/ ?
[16:49] <dkulchenko> I'm resizing my LVM PV, but when I run pvresize, it only fills 46GB, while I increased it to 164G with fdisk. What am I doing wrong?
[16:49] <Quagmire> n8tuserf, I got a scan done, but I only see one network listed (assuming I have ran the correct command) sudo iwlist wlan0 scan ...it references one network listed on channel 6
[16:49] <aar> Jeruvy, does awk & sed work / integrate with OO?
[16:49] <mrtv> bye bye
[16:50] <cern__> do you think installing ubuntu again would work?
[16:50] <Lasivian> is there any way I can test my video framerate? I tried playing a gl game and got a framerate of 0 which seemed very wrong
[16:50] <itachi> Lasivian, run glxgears
[16:51] <Jeruvy> aar: you can run external commands from OO afaik.
[16:51] <Xrm123> I forgot to install vnc on my ubuntu while i was at th machine, is there any way to access it and turn it on purely through shell?
[16:51] <aar> Jeruvy, ok thanks
[16:52] <Lasivian> itachi: if it runs fine I assume my video is fine then, thanks :)
[16:52] <allquixotic> Hi, I have a (physical) disk partition with a Solaris 10 install on it, it's a ZFS filesystem. I installed zfs-fuse as packaged for Ubuntu by the community (got the packages out of PPA from wiki link). How can I use the zfs utilities to mount the disk? The 'mount' command doesn't recognize it.
[16:52] <cern__> can't read no videos on vlc and totem, makes me reboot, any thoughts?
[16:52] <Lasivian> guess something else is broken
[16:52] <allquixotic> Xrm123: Yes, if you have network access to it (you know the IP or DNS), you can ssh in and enable VNC or NX
[16:52] <itachi> Lasivian, you should get output showing your fps if you run in from a terminal
[16:53] <Xrm123> allquixotic: i'm ssh'd into it right now, how do i enable vnc?
[16:53] <Lasivian> itachi: I did, and it was not 0 :)
[16:53] <erUSUL> allquixotic: i suppose the ppa has a mount.zfs or something similar... or maybe there is generic mount.fuse helper...
[16:53] <allquixotic> Xrm123: First, do you have any particular reason to use VNC rather than NX? The performance of VNC is abysmal compared to what NX can do.
[16:54] <Xrm123> i've never heard of nx before, i'm used to only using vnc so thats wht i thought of first
[16:55] <allquixotic> Xrm123: http://www.nomachine.com <--- Get the .DEB packages for your architecture of NX Free Edition for Linux. Use 'wget' from the console: paste in the download URLs from the nomachine.com site. Then run sudo dpkg -i on the filenames.
[16:55] <allquixotic> Xrm123: NX has a client on every platform too.
[16:55] <cern__> can't read no videos on vlc and totem, makes me reboot, should i reinstall ubuntu?
[16:55] <tesseracter> help. when i upgrade my kernel, my BIOS cannot find it, its above the maximum cylinder(error 18). i do not have a boot partition, i was told i didnt need one. how can i move the new kernel to the right position on the HD???
[16:56] <Guest52875> http://stagstrat.labrute.fr/
[16:56] <cern__> lol
[16:56] <w3wsrmn> cern__: there's no need to ask the same question every few minutes. and you ought to provide more info about your issue.
[16:56] <cern__> w3wsrmn, sorry
[16:56] <brandonban6> The "user switcher" add on for panel in Ubuntu does not load on my system (8.10 64bit), I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this error. Any thoughts on a direction I can go from here?
[16:56] <erUSUL> tesseracter: is the bios what is complaining or grub? lilo?
[16:56] <markl__> tesseracter: are you using a 286 or something?
[16:57] <JonathanEllis> The cd drive on my laptop has failed and I need to install ubuntu. It wont boot from a usb drive.
[16:58] <SlimeyPete> !netboot
[16:58] <Jufis> what was the package name for the 5xxx series wireless drivers?
[16:58] <tesseracter> erUSUL, grub, markl_, no its a P5E-VM, quad core.
[16:59] <Xrm123> allquixotic: /win 6
[17:00] <tesseracter> erUSUL, grub gives me the choice of different kernels to load, only the 2.6.27-10 one works, not the 2.6.27-11 or -12
[17:00] <lesshaste> how do I tell which version of the nvidia driver ubuntu has given me?
[17:01] <JonathanEllis> SlimeyPete: Thanks
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> np
[17:01] <tesseracter> markl_, i updated the bios too, that shouldnt be the issue. what usually makes this work no problem for everyone else in the galaxy?
[17:01] <erUSUL> lesshaste: dmesg| grep "NVIDIA UNIX"
[17:01] <lesshaste> erUSUL, thanks.. looks like 169.12 .. does that make sense?
[17:02] <markl__> tesseracter: can you paste the exact error?
[17:02] <erUSUL> lesshaste: could be
[17:02] <markl__> if it's short :)
[17:03] <lesshaste> erUSUL, :) that's worrying.. it's just whatever ubuntu provides
[17:03] <erUSUL> tesseracter: maybe you can tweak something in the bios about the boot sequence or the way the disk is being recogniced,,,
[17:03] <tesseracter> markl_, error 18: selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios
[17:03] <DkySven> hello people, for one location where I use my laptop I have to use a proxy, now I'm somewhere where I don't need a proxy, so I turned it ff in the Networkproxy menu, Synaptic preferences and Firefox, but I still get an error 'can't reach <proxy-adress>' when trying to update
[17:04] <DkySven> how can I fix this?
[17:04] <B10S> who was i talking to about filezilla, ssh and ftp yesterday?
[17:04] <DPic> hey, can someone help me get japanese input working on my machine?
[17:05] <syockit> B10S: you can check the logs
[17:05] <B10S> oh yes
[17:05] <syockit> B10S: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/02/ they are divided to days, and to channels
[17:06] <Xrm123> allquixotic: Thanks, I installed it and got it working without a problem now
[17:06] <syockit> pretty handy
[17:06] <allquixotic> Xrm123: Really? cool
[17:06] <syockit> DPic: what do you wish to use, SCIM or UIM?
[17:06] <allquixotic> Xrm123: Found the NX client eh?
[17:06] <B10S> syockit, thanks
[17:06] <Xrm123> found the nx client for windows, installed the nx client/node/server for linux and set it up
[17:06] <tesseracter> erUSUL, the ways people tell me to solve it are to make a boot partition(hard without deleting data) or some bullshit "copy the kernel around on the disk" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=585453 stuff
[17:07] <allquixotic> Xrm123: Yep, it really is an easy install server-side
[17:07] <tesseracter> erUSUL, if linux had something like partitionMagic...
[17:07] <Dr_Willis64> i find gparted works well for me.
[17:07] <allquixotic> tesseracter: GParted?
[17:07] <Xrm123> yeps, now i can continue working on my linux machine from anywhere lol
[17:07] <erUSUL> tesseracter: well that's a solution too and yes in linux we have gparted (i trust it more thn PM btw)
[17:07] <DPic> syockit, are the both included with ubuntu by default? i've been trying to use SCIM but whichever one you would recommend
[17:08] <B10S> ah, they use the index like the default apache indexes, i want something like that :)
[17:08] <Xrm123> one last question, is there anyway to force my other logon off? other than forcing a reboot...
[17:08] <syockit> DPic: Let me check if my uim works on openoffice ...
[17:08] <B10S> is the same
[17:08] <B10S> just edited :P
[17:08] <DPic> syockit, okay, thanks
[17:08] <allquixotic> Xrm123: "other logon"? you mean an X server bound to a physical monitor?
[17:08] <markl__> tesseracter: have you played with your bios disk settings?
[17:09] <Xrm123> its on a laptop, and i forgot to logoff before i went to class since i was in the middle of working on it
[17:09] <Xrm123> i closed it but i forgot to logoff
[17:09] <allquixotic> Xrm123: you should be able to quit your NX session and re-connect, but this time, edit the session settings and tell it to "Shadow" the current desktop rather than starting a new session
[17:09] <Dr_Willis64> closed the lid Xrm123 ?
[17:09] <Xrm123> Ahh ok, thanks allquixotic
[17:09] <Xrm123> yeah Dr_Willis64
[17:09] <allquixotic> Xrn123: That way you can actually connect to and use the old session, and you don't _have_ to logoff or start a new session
[17:09] <allquixotic> Xrm123: ^^
[17:10] <syockit> DPic: okay uim works on openoffice too. So I'm suggesting uim. there are situations where it doesn't work though. for example, in opera, you can't use it in ctrl-f, but you can use it everywhere else. and it also works on terminal, on firefox, etc etc
[17:10] <Dr_Willis64> i thought NX could reattatach.. but it may be just a stale pid file around
[17:10] <syockit> DPic: let's go with uim
[17:10] <DPic> syockit, what is the difference between the two?
[17:10] <allquixotic> Dr_Willis64: It can attach to a physical X session and "shadow" it (a la Remote Desktop solutions) but I assume our friend configured it to start a _new_ GNOME or KDE session
[17:10] <hbekel> Kingsy101: did it work out? i was afk
[17:10] <tesseracter> allquixotic, erUSUL GParted doesnt have a reformat without deleting data, that i can see..
[17:11] <gldtn> hello all.. can someone help me get the "cedilha"(the snake character under the letter c) using english international (en) keyboard?
[17:11] <Xrm123> allquixotic: yeah i did, i was kind of wondering why the resolution had changed from the regular resolution lol, but i switched it and it works fine now
[17:11] <erUSUL> tesseracter: but you can shrink a partition to make room for the /boot one cant you?
[17:11] <tesseracter> markl_, yes, but maybe i'll try that some more if you have a specific thing to check...
[17:11] <Xrm123> n 6
[17:12] <shay26> Hello , does anyone know if Ubuntu have good software for recording audio ? (beside Audacity) ?
[17:12] <syockit> DPic: they work differently but users usually don't notice it. it's mostly how they interface with the apps. otherwise, they use the same engines (anthy, skk, canna, etc)
[17:12] <gldtn> here on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=736456 says how to do it under hardy but on intrepid seems like there is a small diference
[17:12] <tesseracter> erUSUL, GParted always give me a warning about "data might be lost" and i dont go further than that.
[17:12] <Dr_Willis64> while parittion magic just dosent bother to warn youy :)
[17:12] <markl__> tesseracter: maybe play around with the lba modes, and some bios' have a legacy sata kind of setting that might help
[17:12] <quibbler> gldtn: you can add character pallet to the panel
[17:12] <syockit> DPic: and I always have scim work on one toolkit (i.e. gtk) and fail on another (i.e. qt)
[17:12] <Dr_Willis64> Your hard drives could die at any second.. or power go out.. it pays to have backups
[17:12] <erUSUL> tesseracter: ok; fair enough... playing with partitions is allways risky business even with PM ...
[17:13] <DPic> syockit, okay, so SCIM has started to work somehow and it was only needed for IM so i actually think i'm set
[17:13] <gldtn> quibbler, may you guide me a bit please.. what do you mean?
[17:13] <Huufarted> Question: Can anybody tell me where the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor can be found?  I can find details on using it, but not where I find it to begin with.
[17:13] <syockit> DPic: so you have scim-anthy installed too?
[17:13] <tesseracter> erUSUL, yeah, i had a computer freeze in the middle of a PM reformat. bye bye data.
[17:13] <syockit> DPic: did you install via language support?
[17:13] <erUSUL> Huufarted: right click on the pannel choose add to pannel
[17:13] <DPic> syockit, i installed via language support, yeah
[17:14] <Huufarted> erUSUL: What panel?
[17:14] <syockit> DPic: okay, go to console and do this: im-switch -c
[17:14] <Huufarted> nevermind
[17:14] <syockit> DPic: and then select.... wait I forgot after that
[17:14] <Huufarted> erUSUL: I found it
[17:14] <erUSUL> Huufarted: the one of the top or the one on the botton you choose where you want the applet
[17:14] <tesseracter> Dr_Willis64, i know that, and i have all my personal documents backed up, but i dont have all my installed programs backed up.
[17:14] <Huufarted> Thanks very much
[17:14] <DPic> syockit, wait, why? SCIM is working
[17:14] <quibbler> gldtn: right click on your upper panel and click add to panel..choose character palette
[17:15] <syockit> DPic: really? so it needs no config?
[17:15] <Huufarted> erUSUL: I was looking in the system monitor itself, trying to add a panel there.  THanks for the right info.
[17:15] <DPic> syockit, idk, guess not
[17:15] <erUSUL> Huufarted: no problem
[17:15] <syockit> DPic: strange. last time it only worked when you logged in with japanese language. it didn't start automatically in english
[17:15] <syockit> prob they fixed that huh
[17:15] <DPic> well i'm using jaunty, maybe they made some improvements?
[17:16] <DPic> syockit, anyways, thanks for the help!
[17:16] <syockit> DPic: cool on bleeding edge huh. yeah, maybe they did
[17:16] <Huufarted> erUSUL, much better...  I didn't like it stuck at 800 MHz on this laptop.  Pretty slow doing that.
[17:18] <gldtn> quibbler, thanks I just did a little search on it ;) I guess Ill use this tĺl I figure it out.. I can get every other character except the C with the cedilha(ç) instead I get this (ć)
[17:18] <jabagawee> what's the command to properly flush the ext3 journal?
[17:18] <Dr_Willis64> jabagawee,  'sync' perhaps? perhaps run it a few times?
[17:18] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis64: thanks
[17:19] <quibbler> gldtn:  ç this is from the palette
[17:19] <quibbler> or caps Ç
[17:21] <gldtn> quibbler, yeah I got the pallet in now.. but what I want is to work like the other characters by me simply pressing the ( ' ) button and then hitting the C key and getting ç
[17:22] <gldtn> quibbler, but this would be a nice work around it.. thanks!
[17:22] <quibbler> gldtn: ok good luck...
[17:23] <steve``> where do i specify which dhcp client should be used?
[17:23]  * genii ponders "which dhcp client"
[17:24] <steve``> want to replace dhclient with dhcpcd
[17:25] <steve``> but it shouldn't matter which one, as long as i know where to specify which one should be used
[17:26] <Dr_Willis64> i wonder what would happen if you removed one and isntalled the other.. if theres some update-alternatives for it
[17:27] <Nutcase82> i had some problems installing Ubuntu server 8.10 on a HD that was in a RAID before. It seems like there is something telling the install program that this HD is still in a RAID when its not. Ive formated the disk 2 times now so there should not be any data on it. Any ideas anyone?
[17:27] <Nutcase82> the 2 HD that i used in as a hardware RAID before was connected to a motherboard that got fried by lightning (R.I.P). After that i seperated the 2 drives one for my computer with my new motherboard and one for my server. The one in my new computer (WinXP) is working without problems. But the one that i want to use in my server does not proberbly because that i could not proberbly unmount the RAID because of my old motherboard is toas
[17:27] <steve``> can't remove dhclient
[17:27] <kaje> When a cronjob for a user runs, what scripts are run beforehand to set up the environment? (e.g. bashrc, profile, etc...)
[17:27] <steve``> it's a dependency for ubunut-minimal
[17:28] <Favorit> hola
[17:28] <Guest52875> http://stagstrat.labrute.fr/
[17:28] <Nutcase82> thing is that when i install and the installation has identifed my HDD it says that it seems to be a RAID do you want to enable RAID controll. If i say yes i only get an error saying it dident work. If i say no the installation proceeds and i get to complete the install.. However whn GRUB is about to load it just stops there. No text, no errors. The system has not stalled but it wont boot ether.
[17:30] <Sylphid|work> can anyone tell me if there is going to be a amd64 package for sun-java6-plugin in intrepid or is that only going to be in <=jaunty?
[17:30] <Nutcase82> Anyone know anything i can try?
[17:32] <Frantic> how do I see why a linux box is acting sluggish? CPU is 99% idle and it has plenty of free RAM, but for some reason it takes a few seconds to get the SSH login prompt
[17:33] <martin_> hi all
[17:33] <quibbler> Sylphid|work: http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com
[17:33] <martin_> I need some help
[17:33] <dkulchenko> I'm resizing my LVM PV, but when I run pvresize, it only fills 46GB, while I increased it to 164G with fdisk. What am I doing wrong?
[17:34] <martin_> I just added 2 disks to my server and now they are recognized as "sdb" and "sdc" and the other drives are now "sdd" and "sde"
[17:35] <martin_> How can I tell ubuntu to use "sdb" and "sdc" ofr my old drives and "sdd" and "sde" for the old ones?
[17:35] <lnx1> hello. I have a sound issue here. When I have the headphones plugged in, sound comes both in the headphones and in the laptop speakers. if I turn the speakers off, there's no sound. Can anyone help?
[17:36] <ikonia> martin_: have you extended the volume group ?
[17:36] <martin_> ehm, last "old" should be "new" ofcourse
[17:36] <ikonia> dkulchenko: sorry, have you extended the volume goup
[17:36] <ikonia> group
[17:36] <ikonia> martin_: that wasn't for you, sorry
[17:36] <martin_> ikonia: ok, np
[17:37] <martin_> Can you assing drives to particular /dev/sdX names?
[17:37] <dkulchenko> ikonia: no, i have not
[17:37] <dkulchenko> ikonia: how do i do that?
[17:37] <ikonia> vgextend
[17:37] <jkristheking> hey, can someone help me with a small problem?
[17:37] <dkulchenko> ikonia: got it. thanks
[17:37] <ikonia> martin_: disks should be referenced by by uuid now, not /dev devilce files
[17:37] <ikonia> jkristheking: try asking a question
[17:38] <martin_> ikonia: But everything works with those names like mdraid
[17:38] <ikonia> martin_: sorry I don't support fake raid setups
[17:38] <Guest52875> http://stagstrat.labrute.fr/
[17:39] <jkristheking> ok, im trying to use xvidcap to make screencasts, but it records very slow i don't know if it's my system. here's my specs: intel core 2 duo @ 1.83/ 3gb ram/ ati mobility radeon x1400
[17:39] <B10S> from windows, fillezilla/dreamweaver ftp's into root on ubuntu but cant edit/write files, i dont want to chown /var/www/ is there another way?
[17:39] <martin_> ikonia: ehm, not dmraid but software raid with mdadm
[17:39] <ikonia> martin_: that works off uuid too
[17:39] <dkulchenko> ikonia: afaik, vgextend only works if you are adding physical volumes, not changing the size of one
[17:40] <ikonia> dkulchenko: what are you trying to do sorry, I may have miss-understood
[17:40] <jkristheking> anyone?
[17:40] <bream_> Cкажите пажалуста какие есть антивирусы для ubuntu?
[17:40] <martin_> ikonia: So I should somehow use UUID's in my mdadm.conf file?
[17:40] <quibbler> !ru
[17:40] <bream_> senc
[17:40] <martin_> ikonia: Where can I see which drive has which UUID?
[17:41] <ikonia> martin_: that's the best way
[17:41] <steve``> Frantic, i tackled just that issue a couple hours ago
[17:41] <jkristheking> anyone else in here having problems with xvidcap?
[17:41] <dkulchenko> ikonia: i changed the physical size of the LVM PV, and i'm trying to expand the lvm LV to fill the newly available space. i run pvresize, but it only expands to 46GB, even though I've added 160GB
[17:41] <gogu> somewone know if gyachi works on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[17:41] <ikonia> dkulchenko: how do you change the PV ?
[17:42] <steve``> Frantic, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and at the end, comment out the UsePAM line, and put: UseDNS no
[17:42] <dkulchenko> ikonia: in fdisk. i added sectors.
[17:42] <ikonia> dkulchenko: added sectors ???
[17:42] <ikonia> dkulchenko: you mean you resized the partition ?
[17:42] <Promille> Strange. Whenever I try to scan localhost(127.0.0.1) with nmap i get to see the port that is really open. But when i try my ip adress(atleast the one that several applications say i have) it seems like nmap finds my router. Any ideas how to work around this, or why its happening?
[17:42] <dkulchenko> ikonia: yeah. i had unallocated space, so i expanded the size of the LVM PV
[17:43] <ikonia> dkulchenko: you can't just do that
[17:43] <luminerd> Pidgin will not launch... if you click it nothing happens. It was working until a recent restart, then it stopped, rebooting hasn't helped...
[17:43] <L3Tum> I installed ubuntu 8.10 on my second machine, but the mouse ins't working. It quit working in fedora before I installed ubuntu. I have tried using a different mouse, but that hasn't worked either. I found in a google search to make sure the proper mouse type is selected in /etc/X11/XF82config. I tried tab, alt, super to navigate around the desktop, but cannot seem to get the menu open to get to the terminal. Is there any way to open terminal? Al
[17:43] <L3Tum> so, if anyone has any other ideas on what to look for to fix my mouse problem it would be greatly appreciated.
[17:43] <dkulchenko> ikonia: why not?
[17:43] <ikonia> dkulchenko: errrrr you've resized a partition, that partition has changed
[17:43] <Promille> !nmap
[17:43] <ikonia> dkulchenko: what fdisk command did you use
[17:44] <dkulchenko> ikonia: fdisk /dev/sda, d, 4, n, p, 4, enter, enter
[17:44] <Promille> Strange. Whenever I try to scan localhost(127.0.0.1) with nmap i get to see the port that is really open. But when i try my ip adress(atleast the one that several applications say i have) it seems like nmap finds my router. Any ideas how to work around this, or why its happening?
[17:44] <ikonia> dkulchenko: that's changing the disk size, not the partition
[17:44] <dkulchenko> ikonia: no, its changing the size of partition 4
[17:44] <dkulchenko> ikonia: which is the PV
[17:44] <ikonia> dkulchenko: sorry, I see how you've laid that out
[17:44] <ikonia> dkulchenko: have you re-read the TOC ?
[17:45] <Otacon22> !skype
[17:45] <dkulchenko> ikonia: what toc?
[17:45] <Frantic> steve``: it's not just that, the smb server is also laggy
[17:45] <Frantic> and other stuff
[17:45] <ikonia> dkulchenko: disk table of contents
[17:45] <ikonia> dkulchenko: you're changing the partition table
[17:48] <jkristheking> why is my xvidcap running slow? i have some pretty good system specs
[17:48] <dkulchenko> ikonia: is there a difference?
[17:48] <ikonia> dkulchenko: yes, your OS won't know about the changes until the TOC has been re-read
[17:49] <ikonia> dkulchenko: so it will make your partition seem smaller
[17:49] <dkulchenko> ikonia: doesn't partprobe do that?
[17:49] <ikonia> dkulchenko: did you do a part probe (it does fail sometimes)
[17:49] <dkulchenko> ikonia: i did, and then did pvresize again, but it only fills 40G, not 160G
[17:49] <luminerd> Pidgin will not launch... if you click it nothing happens. It was working until a recent restart, then it stopped, rebooting hasn't helped...
[17:50] <ikonia> dkulchenko: I have seen it fail
[17:50] <JonathanEllis> ﻿I want two linux distros Ubuntu and UbuntuStudio plus windows xp on my machine. Is there any advantage to a separate /boot partition. Obviously both ubuntu and ubuntustudio will place their kernels here but mainly I only want one instance of /boot/grub. Any other issues or any disadvantage of doing this?
[17:50] <ikonia> dkulchenko: I'd re-boot to make sure your disk TOC is read fine, then see what stte the disk is in
[17:50] <dkulchenko> ikonia: so have i. :)
[17:50] <dkulchenko> ikonia: i can't. i'm on a live cd, switching form regular partitioning to lvm.
[17:51] <ikonia> dkulchenko: ooh that's not good
[17:51] <DPic> i'm trying to set up a computer for a friend but i need help getting the wireless to work. the default restricted driver that was found doesn't work
[17:52] <dkulchenko> ikonia: so, what's the right way to increase the PV's size if it is a partition?
[17:52] <ikonia> dkulchenko: I'd never resize with fdisk personally
[17:52] <ikonia> dkulchenko: I'd delete the partition and re-create
[17:52] <ikonia> dkulchenko: personal choice though, nothing more
[17:53] <dkulchenko> ikonia: delete and recreate with what?
[17:53] <ikonia> dkulchenko: fdisk
[17:53] <ikonia> dkulchenko: oh wait, that's what you did
[17:53] <dkulchenko> ikonia: but that's what i did. you can't resize with fdisk, you can only delete and recreate...
[17:53] <ikonia> dkulchenko: you didn't resize, you deleted
[17:53] <Promille> Strange. Whenever I try to scan localhost(127.0.0.1) with nmap i get to see the port that is really open. But when i try my ip adress(atleast the one that several applications say i have) it seems like nmap finds my router. Any ideas how to work around this, or why its happening?
[17:54] <dkulchenko> ikonia: yeah, and recreated with the same end sector
[17:54] <ikonia> dkulchenko: if you do an fdisk -l /dev/sda does it show you all the space
[17:54] <ikonia> dkulchenko: its not, re-read the partition table
[17:54] <DPic> anyone think they can help me get wireless working?
[17:54] <ikonia> dkulchenko: I can see it now
[17:54] <Promille> ps. tried the ip adress in a browser too, and i got too router settings, so it have to be the router adress
[17:55] <dkulchenko> ikonia: yeah, i know
[17:55] <dkulchenko> ikonia: the mbr looks fine
[17:55] <o|t|b> afternoon. Any install gods about wanting to give an ubuntu noob a hand?
[17:55] <ikonia> dkulchenko: only think I can suggest is reboot, but your a bit stuck on that at the moment
[17:55] <Mick__> o|t|b, shoot, I'll help if I can
[17:55] <ikonia> dkulchenko: or see if there is anything else to force a re-read
[17:55] <L|nuxPS2_> is there a good/easy 3D CAD program that anyone knows about?
[17:55] <letalis> o|t|b: what do you need help with?
[17:56] <o|t|b> I'm using WUBI with UE2.0 to install. BUt I get the busybox prompt when I try and boot into ubuntu
[17:56] <o|t|b> thanks btw
[17:56] <dkulchenko> ikonia: all right, thanks. i'll ask on #lvm
[17:56] <ikonia> o|t|b: ue2 ?
[17:56] <hbekel> Promille: is that the ip address that ifconfig reports for your network device?
[17:56] <ikonia> dkulchenko: looking myself
[17:56] <o|t|b> Ultimate Edition
[17:56] <ikonia> o|t|b: that's not supported here
[17:56] <ikonia> o|t|b: that is not an ubuntu release
[17:56] <letalis> JonathanEllis: you can install the ubuntustudio stuf as an addon to your regular ubuntu installation
[17:57] <o|t|b> UE or WUBI?
[17:57] <ikonia> o|t|b: UE
[17:57] <o|t|b> k
[17:57] <JonathanEllis> letalis: Yes you can but I understood it needs the realtime kernel to run properly
[17:57] <letalis> not really
[17:57] <Cbusy> wine is a mess
[17:57] <letalis> i run ardour without the rt kernel
[17:57] <letalis> works fine
[17:57] <dkulchenko> JonathanEllis: it runs better with an rt kernel, but its not required
[17:58] <Cbusy> i have the wine from winehq installed, th newest ati drivers for linux installed (with two monitors using xinaview)
[17:58] <o|t|b> OK thanks. I'll try a standard install...
[17:58] <letalis> youll need to unlock the mem with the ubuntustudio fronend or do it from the configuration manually
[17:58] <Cbusy> but whenever i try to initiate any type of 3D game the OS crashes
[17:58] <Cbusy> black screen and then i go to the login screen
[17:58] <letalis> and add yourself to the audio group so that jack doesnt blow chunks and die
[17:58] <L|nuxPS2_> anyone know of a 3D CAD program? :)
[17:59] <nandato> autodesk
[17:59] <letalis> beyond that it works
[17:59] <guntbert> !who | letalis
[17:59] <DPic> i really need help getting wireless to work for a friend. i tried reading through complicated ndiswrapper instructions but got nowhere
[17:59] <L3Tum> Can someone please help me with my mouse problem when you get finished with someone else?
[17:59] <letalis> besides, unless theyve fixed it the rt kernel hangs on shutdown
[17:59] <L|nuxPS2_> let me clarify - free 3d CAD program
[17:59] <ptn107> L|nuxPS2_: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html
[17:59] <letalis> it has issues
[18:00] <ptn107> L|nuxPS2_: maybe freeCAD?        http://askoh.com/freecad/
[18:00] <JonathanEllis> letalis: and dkulchenko: Its quite an old laptop with only a 1GHz processor. I already have ubuntustudio on it but to be honest there are some problems with it: Audio playback does not happen at a constant speed - its a bit like an old analogue tape recorder with bad wow. And the other problem is that menus take forever to come up and it takes ages to bring up the shutdown menu. Would I be better off getting rid of studio and installing regular ubun
[18:00] <guntbert> L3Tum: this channel works so: you state your question (all in one line, please) and somebody will most likely answer
[18:00] <L3Tum> I installed ubuntu 8.10 on my second machine, but the mouse ins't working. It quit working in fedora before I installed ubuntu. I have tried using a different mouse, but that hasn't worked either. I found in a google search to make sure the proper mouse type is selected in /etc/X11/XF82config. I was just about to edit this, but then I thought maybe it could be a BIOS problem since it happened in fedora too.
[18:00] <mneptok> JonathanEllis: how much memory?
[18:01] <letalis> JonathanEllis: honestly i dont think taht would make a difference
[18:01] <quibbler> Cbusy: i think you're best bet is #winehq
[18:01] <JonathanEllis> letalis and dkulchenko: The only problem I found was that Jack didnt work properly on regular ubuntu when I tried it
[18:01] <JonathanEllis> mneptok: 1GB of memory
[18:01] <n8tuserf> ptn107 -> blender    cad terminology seems too generic
[18:01] <Cbusy> thanks
[18:01] <iaindalton> What files in my home dir does trackerd not index by default?
[18:01] <JackWinter> !ubuntustudio
[18:01] <letalis> really ubuntustudio is ubuntu but the packages it installs are just geared more towards sound video and graphics editing
[18:01] <DPic> is anyone good with wireless problems?
[18:02] <letalis> how old is the laptop?
[18:02] <wildbat> question : what is the command line to put system in suspend ?
[18:02] <mneptok> DPic: is this wireless built-in or a card?
[18:02] <letalis> 1ghz processor i imagine its rather old
[18:02] <JonathanEllis> letalis: Old. More than five years
[18:02] <DPic> mneptok, built-in
[18:02] <letalis> so the sound hardware may be part of the bottleneck
[18:03] <mneptok> DPic: did you run the Hardware Drivers prefpane?
[18:03] <danub> ok peoples, i am really screwed here. i need a grub expert to hel pme with my unrecognized drives
[18:03] <JonathanEllis> letalis: The sound hardware runs fine on windows xp
[18:03]  * Scunizi just read that using Gizmo's new free "OpenSky" gateway you can go from SIP to Skype
[18:03] <DPic> mneptok, yes, and i installed what it gave me but it didn't work. it picked up available networks but could not connect to them
[18:03] <mneptok> DPic: then you are SOL. sorry.
[18:03] <sven_> grub command IS lilo
[18:04] <dekkong> hey guys! i'm using firefox and I cant see to clear the search bar is this a common problem=?
[18:04] <letalis> JonathanEllis: any idea what the chipset on it is?
[18:04] <mneptok> DPic: that's as good as it's going to get using whatever wireless chipset is in that machine.
[18:04] <letalis> and were you using it for music production before with xp on it?
[18:04] <sven_> the search bar we remove manually
[18:04] <sven_> sec enhanced
[18:04] <mneptok> DPic: does the WAP use WEP, WPA, or WPA2 encryption? AES? TKIP? LEAP? 128bit? 64?
[18:05] <ptn107> danub: shoot
[18:05]  * Scunizi read further.. OpenSky is free for 5 mins only
[18:05] <DPic> mneptok, okay, well i did some shit following instructions for ndiswrapper that disables wireless (when i right-click on the network icon there's no option to enable wireless anymore). do you have any idea how to undo that?
[18:05] <guntbert> sven_: do you have a support question?
[18:05] <JonathanEllis> letalis: Its a Dell Latitude C610. I will check the chipset on Dell's website. I use the machine as a spectrum analyser and to record and playback music
[18:05] <mneptok> DPic: please avoid the expletives.
[18:05] <DPic> mneptok, ok, sorry
[18:05] <mneptok> DPic: never used ndiswrapper, sorry.
[18:06] <danub> ok, so, i had windows xp on one of my drives, i installed ubuntu on a different drive
[18:06] <_gpg_> hello
[18:06] <danub> they are on 2 different connectors, (ubuntu on sata controller) and xp one IDE controller)
[18:06] <letalis> JonathanEllis: whats the mount of RAM it has?
[18:07] <JonathanEllis> letalis: 1GB
[18:07] <quibbler> dekkong: do about:config search for browser.search.cleanOnSubmit and set to true
[18:07] <danub> grub loads from the IDE controller but during the install it must have pointed to the wrong disk because grub wont load
[18:07] <danub> the boot secotr on my xp side is now also goofed.
[18:07] <kate_> good evening
[18:08] <letalis> yeah id say if you shut off any nonessential stuff on it (extra panels, other programs) that as long as ardour is setup so jackd can run in realtime without a memlock. it should be able to do what you need it to do
[18:08] <danub> i only managed to get into linux by selecting the harddrive to boot and going to the linux disk bypassing grub all together
[18:08] <DPic> mneptok, alright well thanks for the help
[18:08] <arno-t> hi all I would like to create a new locale (language definition?) for Kichwa, which is spoken in Ecuador. I created a few test dictionaries and stuck them in the myspell dicts folder. However, they show up as "Unknown" in openoffice. No wonder why, but how do I add to my system the definition that my qi_EC means "Kichwa, Ecuador"?
[18:08] <DPic> can anyone else help me undo ndiswrapper damage? >,<
[18:08] <allquixotic> anonymous_: Hey
[18:08] <letalis> but haivng anything else running that doesnt pertain to the task at hand oud probably be pushing it.
[18:08] <_igel__> hi
[18:09] <_igel__> in terms of frequency scaling how many steps are available for Phenoms?
[18:09] <danub> so i need to know how to rewrite the grub on the system disk that is on IDE 1 and have it point to both the IDE disk and the SATA disk
[18:09] <danub> right now grub was wrote to sata disk 1, not the IDE disk1
[18:09] <letalis> danub: did grub get written over by something else?
[18:10] <danub> nope, the install just wrote it to the wrong disk
[18:10] <_igel__> I just find two modes available for me
[18:10] <danub> ubuntu has always had trouble with my jmicron controller
[18:10] <_igel__> that's weird ain't it?
[18:10] <JonathanEllis> letalis: I cant find the chipset. Is it important?
[18:11] <letalis> i think theres a way from the commandline to install grub to another drive
[18:11] <furenku> Hey! ever since I updated to Intrepid, I can't shut down anymore ... the system hangs on an "acpid: exiting" message --- any ideas?
[18:11] <letalis> JonathanEllis: its important to know the sound hardware to know what it can and cannot do
[18:11] <_gpg_> Is it possible to read CID (or any other SD card register value) of an SD connected using USB adapter ?
[18:12] <letalis> JonathanEllis: things like is it full or half duplex being the biggest one
[18:12] <L3Tum> Well I have no mouse section in xorg.conf, can anybody tell me what to enter for a standard mouse using PS/2 port? I don't even have any kind of input or mouse section.
[18:12] <JonathanEllis> letalis: Oh I see. I use an external USB sound module anyway. Yes its full duplex
[18:13] <letalis> okay. well part of the issue with that is that usb sound devices tend not to be as fast as their onboard counterparts
[18:13] <letalis> they are limited to the speed of the usb busses
[18:13] <DPic> can anyone help me fix my wireless?
[18:13] <danub> where do i need to go to get info on grub and its commands
[18:13] <danub> i seriously need to fix this like now
[18:14] <letalis> something with a one ghz processor may be on that iffy fence of usb 1.1 and usb 2.0 too
[18:14] <quibbler> !grub
[18:14] <letalis> if its usb 1.1 may god help you.
[18:14] <letalis> LOL
[18:14] <Jewbacca> hi, i want to install linux on my friend's pc, but he have wireless connection :p so...how to set wireless ?
[18:14] <Alex_771> hi
[18:14] <letalis> dmesg should be able to reposrt the speeds of your usb controllers
[18:15] <JonathanEllis> letalis: But the onboard sound is full duplex as well. The onboard audio is by crystal but it has other audio quality problems. When I DJ I use the onboard sound merely to drive headphones as a pre-fade listen and use the USB module for output to the PA system
[18:15] <marko-_-> Jewbacca, which wireless card has he ? in most cases it will just work out of the box but still google for your friends wireless card and ubuntu support
[18:15] <zoli01> I've got a tricky question
[18:15] <furenku> Hey! ever since I updated to Intrepid, I can't shut down anymore ... the system hangs on an "acpid: exiting" message --- any ideas?
[18:16] <letalis> JonathanEllis: what was the initial problem youve been having?
[18:16] <zoli01> Krusader starts in full screen and I can't decrease its size
[18:16] <zoli01> Anyone any ideas?
[18:17] <letalis> intrepid likes to let my headset on my desktop take over sound by default its a logitech usb headset, i had to force ubuntu to use the audigy soundcard as the primary to keep that from hapening
[18:18] <quibbler> furenku: look here: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6746526
[18:18] <Scunizi> I'm looking at System Monitor and viewing "All" processes.. I'm wondering why I have 6 instances of apache2 running?
[18:18] <furenku> quibbler, thanks
[18:18] <letalis> danub: man grub-install
[18:18] <genii> Scunizi: Thats normal. It starts a minimal number of servers
[18:18] <filipe> Scunizi That is Apache thread's.It's normal
[18:19] <JonathanEllis> letalis: But anyway, they both work fine under windows. Just that I hate the windows interface and the applications I really want to use are not available under windows (JAPA, JAAA and QuodLibet). My main issue was whether it was sensible to have a separate boot partition as it will multiboot between UbuntuStudio, Ubuntu and Windows. Now we have got a little sidetracked on whether I need UbuntuStudio as well as Ubuntu. Perhaps I will keep studio for
[18:19] <letalis> danub: youll need to install grub to your primary boot device
[18:19] <Scunizi> genii & filipe thanks.. how about 2 versions of gdm and 6 of getty?
[18:19] <[b]stefan4o[b]> maybe you can help me with wine.When i install wine and run it it display this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wizJbkFGko check this youtube channel.
[18:19] <danub> yeah im reading it now
[18:19] <filipe> Scunizi The same. It's normal
[18:20] <furenku> quibbler, sorry, broken link
[18:20] <Scunizi> filipe: ok.. I guess I'll change system monitor back to viewing just my processes..
[18:20] <letalis> JonathanEllis: honestly youre just wasting disk space to put your music on by have a triple boot situation
[18:20] <jeff1981_> Hi
[18:20] <jeff1981_> Hello
[18:20] <jeff1981_> One can please try to connect to http://jfsimon1981.dyndns.org
[18:20] <letalis> ubuntu and windows would be al you need just install the ubuntustudio stuff after you get ubuntu setup
[18:20] <filipe> Scunizi how old are u?
[18:21] <Scunizi> filipe: close to the 1/2 century mark
[18:21] <guntbert> jeff1981_: is this a ubuntu-support question?
[18:21] <Scunizi> filipe: why?
[18:21] <letalis> since youre jugling two sound devices, you may have an issue where you may need to tell ubuntu which one you want as the default
[18:21] <jeff1981_> I would like to try a new server hosted in here actually.
[18:21] <Scunizi> filipe: like they say.. old dog learning new tricks.:)
[18:22] <guntbert> jeff1981_: please take that elsewhere
[18:22] <filipe> Scunizi hehe =)
[18:22] <hbekel> JonathanEllis: how about rolling your own rt-kernel from vanilla sources if you have trouble with the studio kernel?
[18:22] <JonathanEllis> letalis: Thanks. Once I get Ubuntu working properly with the studio apps then I will remove studio. I got the two audio devices working at the same time with no issues in studio so that shoudlnt be a problem
[18:22] <mikikol10> oin #gubi.hu
[18:22] <mikikol10> sry
[18:22] <quibbler> furenku: not for me here it is again:  http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6746526
[18:23] <letalis> normally id agree with you hbekel, everytime ive attempted to roll my own i ubuntu it usually wasnt prety.
[18:23] <letalis> lol
[18:23] <JonathanEllis> hbekel: Thanks. Think I will try with the normal ubuntu and see if that works first
[18:23] <DPic> if anyone is good with wireless, can you please take a look at this issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6750196
[18:23] <jelly-bean>  is there a cmd that would allow me to mass rename a directory of .jpg images to have a prefix of "1-"  in front of whatever the filename was? if so, what cmd would do that?
[18:23] <furenku> quibbler, worked now, will test it, thank you!
[18:23] <quibbler> furenku: OK
[18:24] <neostrider> any good sugestion on command-line email application?
[18:24] <letalis> neostrider: i like cone
[18:24] <letalis> :)
[18:24] <neostrider> thanks letalis
[18:24] <guntbert> !enter > letalis
[18:25] <neostrider> does it support sending email from a single command line ?
[18:25] <letalis> ive never tried it
[18:26] <enthused> !preseed > enthused
 sendmail?
[18:27] <ivan_> |ubuntu bg
[18:27] <neostrider> filipe: confusing synthax
[18:27] <fr> hellooooooo
[18:27] <quibbler> !bg
[18:28] <fr> ce qualcuno italiano
[18:28] <quibbler> !it
[18:28] <neostrider> I want to configure gnome-pilot to send the emails at the hotsync
[18:28] <Jewbacca> what is the cmd to search a folder?
[18:28] <neostrider> qualé, agora vai ser assim é?
[18:28] <neostrider> but thanks anyway folks
[18:28] <neostrider> I will try it
[18:28] <filipe> neostrider
[18:28] <filipe> você é brasileiro?
[18:29] <neostrider> RJ ;-)
[18:29] <Nefasto> Why can´t I upgrade php5 to 5.2.8 from apt-get???
[18:29] <Nefasto> it says 5.2.4 is the "latest" but it´s not....
[18:29] <markl_> join #top
[18:29] <cern_> hi again
[18:30] <cern_> for my video pb, it now works, thks a lot!!
[18:30] <alkamid> hello
[18:30] <cern_> and viva ubuntu!!
[18:31] <enthused> anyone have experience writing installation preseed files that are accessed over the network during the install?
[18:31] <zac_> does anyone know of a free scripting program for ubuntu?
[18:31] <Nefasto> enthused: could you give me a hand??? real quick?
[18:31] <L|nuxPS2_> zac_: idle
[18:31] <letalis> zac_: do you mean a text editor with syntax highlighting?
[18:31] <zac_> yes
[18:31] <enthused> Nefasto: with your php problem?
[18:31] <itachi> zac_, vim
[18:31] <letalis> practically all of them in linux do that :)
[18:31] <L|nuxPS2_> or just the defualt text editor
[18:31] <zac_> vim? is that a program
[18:32] <enthused> zac_: yes
[18:32] <quibbler> !editor
[18:32] <zac_> ok
[18:32] <itachi> zac_, yes, and also a detergent i think
[18:32] <L|nuxPS2_> you don't wanna use vim... its a pain in the ass compared to a gui text editor like gedit
[18:32] <L|nuxPS2_> i think that's what zac_ is looking for
[18:32] <letalis> yeah gedit is the gnome version of ate.
[18:32] <Nefasto> quibbler: can you give me a hand??
[18:32] <letalis> kate
[18:33] <quibbler> Nefasto: with what
[18:33] <itachi> vim is not a pain in the ass, it is very efficient, just have a steeper learning curve
[18:33] <alkamid> look, I have two partitions (ext3 and swap) on my HDD and I'd like to make another one out of the existing one (I have ~40GB of free space for this). If I do it with parted, is it possible that I'll lose some data?
[18:33] <L|nuxPS2_> zac_: just go to Applications --> Accessories --> Text Editor
[18:33] <Nefasto> quibbler: I am doing apt-get install php5, but it won´t upgrade to 5.2.8... new to ubuntu!
[18:33] <zac_> ok i was looking for sumthing like vbs scriping like windows
[18:33] <enthused> Nefasto: the newest version of php in ubuntu is not 5.2.8
[18:33] <L|nuxPS2_> idle is also very good for development
[18:33] <L|nuxPS2_> as is eclipse
[18:34] <enthused> Nefasto: that is the newest upstream release, it will likely be in the next release
[18:34] <erUSUL> zac_: you want a visual basic?
[18:34] <erUSUL> !info gambas2 | zac_
[18:34] <Nefasto> enthused: oh. If I need to use it then, I´m on my own?
[18:34] <zac_> where do i get that
[18:34] <itachi> ed however, is painful to use
[18:34] <enthused> Nefasto: you can likely grab a beta deb from the repositories
[18:34] <erUSUL> !software | zac_
[18:34] <Nefasto> enthused: where do I find info on how to accomplish that?
[18:35] <zac_> ok thax
[18:35] <ptn107> alkamid: you can use gparted from an ubuntu livecd, no loss of data
[18:35] <johannix2> anyone know what software i can use to setup a private P2P file sharing network
[18:35] <illbeatu_> how would I run a socket program without sudoing all the time?
[18:35] <erUSUL> zac_: Applications>Add/Remove is the easiest way
[18:35] <illbeatu_> or is that not possible
[18:35] <L|nuxPS2_> johannix2: just torrenting through a socks proxy
[18:35] <alkamid> ptn107: so I just make a new partition out of existing one and nothing happens to my data?
[18:35] <enthused> php has build information on their main site
[18:36] <enthused> Nefasto: php has build information on their main site
[18:36] <Nefasto> enthused: thnx.. I´ll go look!
[18:36] <ptn107> no since its ext3 it can handle resizes without reformatting
[18:36] <xamox> anyone know how to extract audio from mp4 (AAC) on linux? I'm trying ffmpeg, doesn't like the codec, looking at it I have to recompile ffmpeg with support, is there an easier way so I don't have to spend all the time
[18:36] <johannix2> L|nuxPS2: interesting, never came across socks before
[18:36] <enthused> anyone have experience writing installation preseed files that are accessed over the network during the install?
[18:36] <ptn107> alkamid: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[18:37] <guigui_> il y a des français ?
[18:37] <L|nuxPS2_> johannix2: just an SSL proxy... should be very easy to setup
[18:37] <quibbler> !fr
[18:37] <alkamid> ptn107: what about swap? I've just discovered that I have 4.6GB swap!
[18:37] <johannix2> L|nuxPS2: cool, thanks.
[18:37] <shumpi> I am trying to insert a jpg file in a LyX document, but I get "error converting to loadable format"...
[18:37] <itachi> alkamid, that ought to be enough :)
[18:38] <ptn107> alkamid: you can redo the swap partiton, 2048mb is of standard size; resizing swap will automatically format it upon resize
[18:38] <alkamid> itachi: actually I think is way to much
[18:38] <alkamid> too*
[18:39] <alkamid> is there a good howto on creating swap? I'm not sure how much of it I can really use
[18:40] <itachi> alkamid, yes. i normally dont use swap at all, no difference for me. but i run pretty lightweight apps.
[18:40] <ptn107> alkamid: gparted can add a swap partiton easily just choose type as swap
[18:40] <jmole> hey all
[18:41] <alkamid> itachi: I have 2GB RAM on my laptop therefore I think swap is not used too often as well
[18:41] <quibbler> jmole: hi
[18:41] <jmole> I am having trouble using my wireless network with my laptop running Ubuntu 8.10, any pointers where I can find help with this?
[18:41] <jmole> would be appreciated
[18:41] <quibbler> !wifi
[18:42] <jmole> ok thanks, I'll try this out
[18:42] <jmole> Appreciate it
[18:43] <DPic> can anybody try to help me with my wireless problems?
[18:43] <erUSUL> !anyone | DPic
[18:43] <Nefasto> enthused: I checked php.net (and google.com). Do you know of any resources where I might be able to get that latest php5 package to install?? apreciate the help.
[18:43] <flaco> hello, I need to buy a wireless adapter (usb) any recommendations?? I'm using 8.10
[18:44] <WebUser> http://free-online.free.bg/
[18:44] <enthused> Nefasto: you're going to have to build it from source. download the source from php and follow their build instructions
[18:44] <celdridge> is there a way to have ubuntu not create .Trash folders on any mount that is not a local drive?
[18:44] <erUSUL> !shl
[18:45] <shumpi> does anyone know how to put in jpg in LyX? I get "error converting to loadable format"..
[18:46] <istvan> how do i make my scream show up as a video input? i want to send it on skype, or stream it with stickam/ustream?
[18:46] <nandato> SHL is the shift lest mnemonic in x86 assembler
[18:46] <celdridge> !trash
[18:46] <erUSUL> !hardware | flaco
[18:47] <itachi> shumpi, dont know, but i use png for latex and that works well, maybe it works in lyx too?
[18:47] <celdridge> Is there any way to make ubuntu stop creating .Trash folders for specific mounts?
[18:47] <shumpi> thx itachi - will try
[18:47] <hak5fan> Hi how can I convert a unix text file to a windows text file.... can gedit do this?
[18:47] <Mood> Is NetworkManager a daemon process that checks for interrupted connections to encrypted wifi? And if the connection is severed, should NetworkManager auto-connect?
[18:48] <jken146> shumpi, you could always convert it to eps
[18:48] <shumpi> ok
[18:48] <rayne_> Is there a command to show internet traffic in terminal?
[18:48] <erUSUL> hak5fan: sed 's/$'"/`echo \\\r`/" file > newfile
[18:48] <istvan> I'v read lots of people asking how to stream your x screens, but nobody that found how...
[18:48] <jken146> hak5fan, Save it with .txt at the end of the file name
[18:49] <archidiable> sorry but i'm french and i don't know where is chat ubuntu-FR
[18:49] <archidiable> ??
[18:49] <jken146> !fr
[18:49] <archidiable> thx
[18:49] <jken146> de rien
[18:49] <rayne_> Is there a command in terminal to show internet traffic? Like how "top" shows cpu/memory usage
[18:50] <_VIM_>  ntop
[18:50] <AZMel> percious: errors
[18:50] <AZMel> failed loading /toscawidgets/resources/tw.dojo.core/static/dojo/../twdojo/SelectShuttle.js with error: SyntaxError: illegal XML character
[18:50] <rayne_> Thanks VIM.
[18:50] <_VIM_> its in the repos too if im not mistaking
[18:50] <_VIM_> you're welcome
[18:50] <eoke> Does anybody know how to forcefully remove portmap it won't shutdown cleanly so aptitude purge portmap won't remove it.  pskilling doesn't help either as aptitude restarts it as part of the removal process.
[18:50] <_VIM_> rayne_:
[18:51] <erUSUL> rayne_: iftop
[18:51] <_VIM_> also check out iptraf
[18:51] <_VIM_> iptraf PWNZ
[18:51] <istvan> anyone? please?
[18:51] <_VIM_> but ntop is nice too, web intereface and all that :)
[18:51] <rayne_> Is there a difference between using apt-get and aptitude?
[18:51] <jken146> rayne_, netstat
[18:51] <coverubuntu> what's runlevel in ubuntu?
[18:51] <_VIM_> rayne_: some say aptitude handles depenedencies better
[18:52] <guigui_>  #ubuntu fr
[18:52] <jken146> rayne_, Yes.  They both do the same thing essentially, but if aptitude does things like apt-get autoremove automatically
[18:52] <quibbler> guigui_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:52] <rayne_> Gotcha, thanks.
[18:52] <alkamid> !minimal
[18:52] <jken146> rayne_, also, if you run aptitude without any options, you get a UI
[18:53] <guigui_> #ubuntu-fr
[18:53] <istvan> can i send my x-screen thru video4linux?
[18:53] <mjfcolas> bonjour tout le monde
[18:53] <quibbler> guigui_: use    /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:53] <jp_sf> guigui_: tapes: /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:53] <alkamid> any tutorials on minimal ubuntu installation?
[18:53] <jken146> alkamid, there's one on psychocats.net/ubuntu
[18:54] <erUSUL> !minimal | alkamid
[18:54] <quibbler> jp_sf: tapes=type?
[18:54] <jp_sf> quibbler: yes
[18:54] <quibbler> jp_sf: thanks
[18:55] <alkamid> jken146: thank you
[18:55] <Xrm123> :o
[18:55] <Xrm123> ummm, ive got a weird problem going on
[18:56] <Xrm123> programs on my computer can only see the webcam when i run the programs under root
[18:56] <Xrm123> is there any reason that would happne?
[18:56] <red-lichtie> What is the best way to integrate a newer version of the kernel into intrepid ? I'm having problems with WLAN (iwlagn.ko) randomly dropping connections, and from what I can see after scouring the web, this issue has been fixed in 2.6.29.
[18:57] <alkamid> do I need a wired connection for minimal installation or it is possible to get wireless to work?
[18:57] <_VIM_> !kernel | red-lichtie
[18:57] <red-lichtie> Xrm123: Are you in the video group ?
[18:57] <Xrm123> red-lichtie: the video group?
[18:58] <red-lichtie> /etc/group
[18:58] <istvan> how do i stream my screen?
[18:58] <Scunizi> alkamid: If wireless works with the live cd then it will work with the install.
[18:58] <ibuclaw> Xrm123,    grep "video" /etc/group
[18:59] <alkamid> Scunizi: but I mean the "minimal installation cd". will it work anyway?
[18:59] <jken146> alkamid, the minimal has the same installer as the alternate
[18:59] <red-lichtie> Xrm123: Try `sudo adduser $USER video`
[18:59] <wstraus> I've got a computer running ubuntu setup as a router, I'm wondering is there more than just a good set of firewall rules that I need to stay protected?
[18:59] <Scunizi> alkamid: probably not
[18:59] <jken146> !security
[19:00] <hlm> I need help with my usplash not showing correctly on startup
[19:00] <jken146> !firewall
[19:00] <alkamid> thanks
[19:00] <alkamid> I'll give it a try
[19:00] <Xrm123> still can only see while running things as root
[19:00] <Scunizi> alkamid: worth a shot.. at least it should install and then you'll have to plug it into a wire and update then activate the wireless.
[19:01] <jken146> Xrm123, did you log out & in again after adding yourself to the group?
[19:01] <Xrm123> ooh not yet
[19:01] <ibuclaw> Xrm123, you require to logout and log back in again for the group permissions to become effective
[19:01] <red-lichtie> Xrm123, I'm pretty sure that a webcam is controlled by membership of the video group
[19:01] <Xrm123> that might explain it
[19:01] <Mood> will NetworkManager autoconnect to a hidden network name? (SSID not broadcast)
[19:01] <jken146> Mood, Once you've added the network, yes
[19:01] <mun> hi
[19:01] <mun> does anyone know why i'm getting a syntax error near unexpected token `(' on line 14? http://pastebin.com/m3dc05706
[19:02] <Mood> jken146: hmm... auto connect doesn't work for dropped wifi on hidden SSID on Xubuntu 8.10
[19:02] <prince_jammys> mun use [  ] or [[  ]], not parentheses
[19:03] <jken146> Ok, then maybe it doesn't work... I must have been wrong.
[19:03] <_VIM_> !ot | mun (try #linux or #Ubuntu-dev maybe)...
[19:03] <mun> prince_jammys: you mean for the if condition?
[19:03] <red-lichtie> Mood: I think I had to set my AP to broadcast the SSID
[19:03] <Xrm123> Well, it can see the video camera now, but skype keeps crashing
[19:03] <mun> _VIM_: okay
[19:03] <UNC-ITS> Hello, I am having some issues with networking in ubuntu 8.10
[19:03] <Xrm123> whenver i try to start he video skype crashies
[19:03] <Mr_Molez> hi, i have two interfaces, eth0 and wlan1, each are connected to different routers for different ISP's. but only one will work at once with ping google.com -I.. yet I can make each work by doing route add default gw (any way to make them both work at the same time) ?
[19:03] <jken146> Xrm123, Which Skype package have you installed?
[19:03] <prince_jammys> mun: it's a shell script, i presume. the if's are closed with 'fi', not endif
[19:03] <Xrm123> not sure, i just downloaded the lastest one yesterday
[19:03] <Mood> red-lichtie: Ugh... if you had to broadcast SSID to auto-connect, that sounds like a bug in NetworkManager to me
[19:04] <jken146> Xrm123, from where?
[19:04] <Xrm123> from skype.com i thought
[19:04] <UNC-ITS> I am trying to connect to a dataserver that is on a switch but the connection always times out
[19:04] <v_> halo
[19:04] <v_> kde
[19:04] <v_> je
[19:04] <UNC-ITS> The dataserver is a direct line to a switch to this machine, therefore there is no internet connection
[19:04] <jken146> Xrm123, Right.  The package on medibuntu.org usually works best
[19:04] <Xrm123> also, its version 2.0.0.72 jken146
[19:04] <v_> irc
[19:04] <FloodBot2> v_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <v_> cz
[19:04] <Xrm123> ahh okay
[19:05] <v_> czech
[19:05] <quibbler> !cz
[19:05] <danub> if my windows disk is SDB1, do i make the line in the grub menu.lst: root     (sd1,0)
[19:05] <mun> prince_jammys: yes it should be -- it's the configure file.
[19:05] <danub> ?
[19:05] <prince_jammys> mun: ah, it's a make file?
[19:05] <djungelkraem> where can i find a log file for what ive installed/uninstalled with apt-get?
[19:05] <Gnea> !grub | danub
[19:05] <mun> prince_jammys: just the configure file.
[19:06] <Gnea> danub: that howto will tell you what you need to know about it
[19:06] <ibuclaw> djungelkraem, /var/log/apt/term.log
[19:07] <mun> prince_jammys: are configure files shell scripts?
[19:07] <prince_jammys> mun: it appears you're running it with the shell, in which case you can apply what i said.
[19:07] <mun> ok thanks
[19:07] <prince_jammys> mun: if it's make, then ask at ##working-set
[19:07] <UNC-ITS> Hello
[19:07] <mun> prince_jammys: should i set the header to #!/bin/bash?
[19:07] <UNC-ITS> Can anyone help with ubuntu and connecting directly to a switch?
[19:07] <red-lichtie> Xrm123: Does cheese work alright ?
[19:07] <prince_jammys> mun: yes
[19:08] <UNC-ITS> I do not want internet access
[19:08] <UNC-ITS> I just want it to connect to a switch
[19:08] <Mood> anyone know the status of Ubuntu NetworkManager bug fixes?
[19:08] <shumpi> png worked - thx!!!
[19:08] <Xrm123> red-lichtie: no it doesnt, xawtv does though
[19:08] <Xrm123> ays
[19:08] <djungelkraem> ibuclaw, ty
[19:08] <mun> prince_jammys: how come the syntax error didn't occur in the first if statement?
[19:09] <hlm> how do I reset my panels to default? the icons keep moving into different areas
[19:10] <quibbler> hlm: lock the icons where you want them
[19:10] <hlm> quibbler, they are locked...
[19:10] <mun> prince_jammys: ooh.. i've set the header to csh and it all works. thanks.
[19:10] <prince_jammys> mun: i don't know. i assumed it was a shell script with some errors, but you have a point. how come you don't know what type of script it is?
[19:10] <prince_jammys> mun: ah, csh.
[19:11] <prince_jammys> mun: it all makes sense now
[19:11] <_VIM_> hlm: http://www.saifur-rahman.com/2008/12/restoring-default-ubuntu-panel/
[19:11] <mun> prince_jammys: it didn't have a header so i couldn't tell.
[19:11] <yoyoned> !panels|hlm
[19:11] <_VIM_> forgot bout that factoid thanks yoyoned
[19:11] <prince_jammys> mun ubuntu doesn't even have csh installed by default
[19:12] <hlm> okay, thankyou
[19:12] <rayne_> I remember a forum a while back that had a list of useful but relatively unknown apps. Anyone know of something similar? I am no longer seeing it on the forums.
[19:12] <ia> hello. could anyone tell me, please, where acpi writes logs of his own events?
[19:12] <puffandstuff> Is there any way to retrieve some SD registers value like CID from SD card connected as USB please?
[19:13] <_VIM_> !who | hlm
[19:13] <dayo> cern_ cern__: it didn't work?
[19:13] <hlm> _VIM_, I cant remember who helped me :( it was with resetting the panel to default
[19:13] <hlm> how do I remove a downloaded package?
[19:14] <rayne_> What is !tab?
[19:14] <hlm> not from synaptics
[19:14] <hlm> !tab | rayne_
[19:14] <rayne_> hlm: Do you know the name of the package?
[19:14] <_VIM_> hlm: me and yoyoned helped with the panels question :)
[19:14] <dayo> hlm: u mean remove an installed package?
[19:14] <hlm> rayne_, yes
[19:14] <hlm> dayo,  yes
[19:14] <dayo> hlm: how did u install it? apt-get? aptitude?
[19:15] <mustangg1> Is there a way to map the super key -with- another key as a kb shortcut?
[19:15] <rayne_> hlm, What is the name of the package and how did you install it?
[19:15] <yoyoned> hlm: downladed and installed?
[19:15] <hlm> I installed lubi from through firefox then double clicking because I thought I would need to reinstall ubuntu again
[19:15] <dayo> hlm: lubi is a firefox plugin?
[19:16] <rmrfslash> If I run an rsync cron job, and the contents of the directory  I'm backing up are somehow deleted, this will be mirrored on the opposing end correct?
[19:16] <hlm> dayo, no, I am just describint how it got installed
[19:16] <hlm> it installed like a normal package
[19:16] <rmrfslash> basically, my mirror will be deleted.
[19:16] <yoyoned>  !shortcuts|mustangg1
[19:16] <hlm> its a .deb package
[19:16] <slippyr4> hi all. i'd like to create a vpn connection, but the System/Preferences/Network Connections applet, VPN tab's Add button is greyed out. what am i missing?
[19:17] <hlm> slippyr4, probably super user permission
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> hlm Yes it is a deb, but is it from our supported repos
[19:17] <yoyoned> hlm: use synaptic
[19:17] <dayo> hlm: if it's an installed deb, then try: sudo dpkg -r lubi
[19:17] <hlm> Jack_Sparrow, I am unsure, I got it from sourceforge, and its quite supportive to ubuntu
[19:17] <slippyr4> hlm: how would I start the network connections applet with su ?
[19:18] <hlm> yoyoned, I tried it through synaptics, its not in there
[19:18] <yoyoned> !vpn|slippyr4
[19:18] <hlm> slippyr4, I am just a troubleshooter not a ubuntu knowledge bank ;-)
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hlm getting it from soundforge, is clearly not from supported repos
[19:18] <yoyoned> hlm: if it's not in synaptic, then it's not installed
[19:18] <hlm> sourceforge*
[19:19] <slippyr4> ty yoyoned
[19:19] <jken146> yoyoned, not necessarily
[19:19] <talntid> Anyone here familiar with taking a wifi internet connection, and sharing it out through the ethernet port on laptop?
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[19:19] <mustangg1> yoyoned: I read the site (thanks!), but can't tell - does that replace or augment the standard gnome keyboard shortcuts applet?
[19:19] <dayo> slippyr4: sudo network-admin
[19:19] <talntid> I have googled it many times, and tried many tutorials, but it doesn't work. No errors, just -- doesn't work.
[19:19] <hlm> dayo,  thankyou your method worked ;-)
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[19:19] <jken146> talntid, firestarter has a nice wizard that does this
[19:19] <hlm> is there a way I can run .bin files?
[19:19] <dayo> hlm: cool. u're welcome :-)
[19:19] <talntid> excellent. downloading :)
[19:20] <Gnea> hlm: depends on the .bin file
[19:20] <jken146> hlm, make the file executable, then run it
[19:20] <hlm> Gnea, how so?
[19:20] <dayo> talntid: i found this yesterday, but haven't tried it myself, yet: http://blog.rot13.org/2008/12/create_ap_from_any_laptop_with_wifi_and_ethernet_card.html
[19:20] <dougl> is the little thumbnail view of running process when mouse hovers over them on task bar a compiz thing?
[19:20] <hlm> jken146, how?
[19:20] <Gnea> hlm: well, it depends if it's a shell script or a binary file
[19:20] <hlm> Gnea, probably shell script, but its hard to tell
[19:21] <jken146> hlm, chmod +x
[19:21] <Gnea> hlm: use the file command on it, like this:  file file.bin
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> hlm How  to install a bin.. chmod +x file.bin ; sudo ./file.bin
[19:22] <hlm> Jack_Sparrow, Thank you it worked, thank you to everyone else too!
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:23] <latitude> Anyone know where I can download wicd .deb? (cant install from apt) TY
[19:24] <jken146> latitude, try getdeb.net
[19:25] <ibuclaw> latitude, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[19:25] <ibuclaw> there is a section titled "Installing Wicd in Ubuntu"
[19:25] <c0p3rn1c> for some reason my screen is flickering red while playing video's
[19:25] <nomasteryoda> like ibuclaw said is the best way
[19:25] <c0p3rn1c> is this some strange overlay problem ?
[19:26] <c0p3rn1c> again :S
[19:26] <istvan> as i do skype video how can i get my screen to show up as a video input?
[19:27] <red-lichtie> istvan: A screen is never video input
[19:28] <RuNNinBear> red-lichtie: 'touch screen'
[19:28] <tharvey> I'm looking for either more fine-grained control over what media/readers/cards ubuntu automounts - perhaps even a way to temporarily stop then restart whatever is doing the automounting - ideas?
[19:28] <guigui_> how know my config ?
[19:28] <red-lichtie> RuNNinBear: thats not "video" input ;)
[19:29] <istvan> red-lichtie: i am asking is there a way to send x thru video4linux or something
[19:29] <RuNNinBear> red-lichtie: yeah got that, sry, my bad
[19:30] <hlm> where are the default GDM themes located at?
[19:30] <ibuclaw> guigui_, can you elaborate on your question? I'm not sure what you are specifically asking.
[19:30] <red-lichtie> istvan: I've never heard of someone trying to braodcast their destop that way, so no idea
[19:30] <red-lichtie> s/braodcast/broadcast/
[19:32] <danub> ok, i read the grub docs but i cant figure this out
[19:32] <danub> i set it to the right drive, but it wont load. it just says "starting" and hangs there indefinately
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> danub How many hard drives
[19:32] <danub> 4
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> danub are you mixing ide and sata?
[19:33] <danub> device.map shows hd1 as the windows one im trying to boot
[19:33] <danub> yes Jack_Sparrow
[19:33] <xnevermore> can someone tell me why update-manager is having me install and configure lilo (i currently use grub)
[19:33] <xnevermore> ?
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> danub mixing them can really mess with boot sequences
[19:33] <danub> yeah, i didn't have a choice though
[19:34] <danub> windows was installed on IDE controller and ubuntu decided to install itself on SATA controller
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> danub how may os's
[19:34] <danub> just 2
[19:34] <person> xnevermore: Is it installing and configuring it as a bootloader or as a program to install it as a bootloader?
[19:34] <danub> atm
[19:34] <danub> i figure by the time im done figuring out this problem, ill be a grub expert and can load like 15 os's :P
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> danub if you plan on doing multiple to play with a few, setup a /boot partition
[19:35] <xnevermore> person: i don't understand the difference
[19:35] <maximoos> hello all
[19:35] <danub> well right now i just need ubuntu and windows xp
[19:35] <coz_> interesting,, intrepid wouldnt install through normal live cd  but would install as OEM   any reason why this would occur?
[19:35] <danub> the ubuntu loads fine, its the xp that is causing problems
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> danub one sec, we can fix that
[19:36] <danub> ok, that would be awesome
[19:36] <person> xnevermore: By the way, I'm fairly new, so don't trust that I know what I'm on about, but I assume that update-manager installing the package will only modify your Linux system and not the bootloader itself (stored in the MBR or superbock of a disk partition, I think) or the configuration file that the bootloader itself uses... if you know what I mean
[19:36] <danub> i see all the files on the drive still so it should be fine, its just not loading for some reason
[19:36] <bluvio> #python
[19:36] <person> But please don't sue if it turns out that you can't boot your computer anymore, or any other nasty thing happens, you know?
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> danub sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst       (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[19:37] <person> xnevermore, you with me now?
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> danub or paste it manually into the pastebin website
[19:37] <xnevermore> person: right. i'm just wondering why update-manager would think i need lilo. unless its switching the default bootloader to lilo? its asking me to update the kernel due to an abi bump, and along with those updates asking me to install lilo
[19:37] <danub> http://pastebin.com/fb468c6b
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> danub ty
[19:39] <person> xnevermore: meh, I'd assume that it's just installing the Linux program LILO, as opposed to the actual bootloader program that takes control of your commputer before your OS does
[19:39] <xnevermore> person: even so, why should i need that?
[19:39] <person> Well, you're using Ubuntu
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> danub http://pastebin.com/d670db794         see the edit at the end
[19:41] <xnevermore> person: yeah, but i've been using ubuntu for a year without needing lilo
[19:41] <danub> why hd0,0?
[19:41] <person> Maybe you don't need it, but perhaps they're giving it you anyway? I assume it;'s a small Linux program and Ubuntu tends to provide you with loads of stuff you might not need if I remember correctly. *cowers*
[19:41] <danub> hd0 is the linux disk that doesn't contain windows
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> danub If it isnt booting with it looking at the one drive, easy test to point it to the other drive.. assuming that is correct
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> danub understood, but mixing drives can cause issues.. one sec,.. another edit
[19:42] <overlord> How do I find out if my system is 64-bit or 32-bit ?
[19:42] <danub> rightie oh then, ill give it a quick gohead
[19:43] <danub> i have tried editing the grub on boot to point to hd[1-4],[0-5]. the only one that doesn't give an error is hd1,0, but that one just hangs at starting
[19:43] <danub> maybe i will have better luck with hd0,[0-5]
[19:43] <genii> Overand: sudo lshw -C system | grep width
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> danub http://pastebin.com/d605d66e5
[19:44] <genii> overlord: : sudo lshw -C system | grep width
[19:44] <genii> Apologies for the misdirect
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> danub grub hd1,0     gives you ubuntu correct
[19:44] <overlord> genii: it give the output as "SCSI   "
[19:45] <danub> hd0,0 is ubuntu i believe
[19:45] <danub> http://pastebin.com/f1abf3058
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> danub try my menu list and see where it finds windows
[19:45] <danub> sda1 is ubuntu
[19:45] <genii> overlord: The output should be either:  width: 32 bits     or:   width: 64 bits
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> danub I am aware of how hard drives are numbered
[19:46] <danub> sdb2 is the one that has my windows on it
[19:46] <danub> so that *should* be hd1, right?
[19:46] <alex_> why isn't ubuntu letting me log in as root?
[19:46] <J-roen> Hi. I get the error "Input/output error" when using md5sum or cksum on 2GB+ files. Is this a known problem?
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> danub I understand, but mixing ide and sata can mess with those numbers and orders.  You have a way that will let you find out
[19:47] <danub> ohhh
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[19:47] <genii> overlord: You can also usually tell on Intel if 32 or 64 by cpu name. Core2 is 64 for instance
[19:47] <overlord> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119349/
[19:47] <danub> gotcha
[19:47] <alex_> ubottu, from the switch user screen
[19:47] <Scunizi> Rhythmbox puts a nice icon up by the clock when running but will not continue running when you "x" out of it like amorak.. is there a way to make it do that?
[19:47] <alex_> i type root, and my password
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> danub add a fifth drive to your windows list
[19:47] <Frantic> what's the recommended driver for atheros wifi cards?
[19:47] <alex_> and it doesn't let me log in.
[19:47] <danub> so basically, the controllers are messing up device map numbers and what is listed could very well be wrong
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> alex_ that is not how you get root
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo
[19:47] <overlord> genni:  I know my cpu is 64-bit, and so is my OS, but I just want to see it here
[19:47] <genii> overlord: Paste result of raw:   sudo lshw
[19:48] <danub> ok, ill add your edits and go from there, :)
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> danub yes, which is why I made entries in   your menu for all the possibilities
[19:48] <alex_> jack_sparrow, i was actually logged in as root because I did not create new accounts
[19:48] <overlord> genii: It's the same
[19:48] <alex_> and then I installed some software, created some account and now all my software is gone
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> alex_ the first account is NOT root..
[19:49] <alex_> first account as in, you restart ubuntu and get to desktop?
[19:49] <alex_> fresh after install
[19:49] <Scunizi> alex_: the first account as in when you did the installation.. that initial account
[19:49] <genii> overlord: Thats extremely unusual.
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> alex_ yes.. that user can use sudo or gksudo
[19:49] <alex_> i went to the mange user accounts and the ONLY account that showed up was "root"
[19:50] <overlord> genii: Actaully, initially the output says: "PCI (sysfs)" and then it changes to SCSI
[19:50] <FactTech> Does anyone know the name of the text-based installer found on Ubuntu "alternate" install CDs? On LiveCDs, the installer is called "ubiquity", but I'm curious what the text-based installer's name is.
[19:50] <Scunizi> alex_: for Jack_Sparrow 's benefit.. did you call the first user you were asked to name on install "root"??
[19:50] <alex_> no Scunizi
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Scunizi good point
[19:50] <alex_> or maybe i don't know
[19:50] <danub> ok, brb, gonna try the edits
[19:50] <alex_> it asked what my user name was and i typed alex
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> danub good luck
[19:51] <alex_> asked if i wanted to import some other user account named alex i said no
[19:51] <captain_> Does anyone know the OpenMoko FreeRunner?
[19:52] <hlm> where are the GDM themes kept?
[19:52] <Scunizi> hlm: if you
[19:52] <hlm> Scunizi, If I what?
[19:53] <Scunizi> hlm: if you're trying to install a new one.. just drag the gz file to the theme holder.. at System>preferenced>appearance>theme
[19:53] <ibuclaw> J-roen, are you running the checksums on a file that is on a CD/DVD?
[19:53] <hlm> Scunizi, okay, thankyou
[19:53] <Scunizi> hlm: sorry.. fat fingers hit the enter before I was finished :)
[19:53] <valchers> hello, I have problem with ruby instalation, there is error msg, maybe some can help me - http://paste.org/5419
[19:53] <hlm> Scunizi, it has happened to me more than once
[19:53] <deea> hi all. I'm having a problem with compiz effects in ubuntu 8.10. I'm sure this problem is old, and overdiscussed, but I still don't know how to fix it. If I run metacity, problem gets solved, but effects are gone. using compiz effects are on but window decorations not
[19:54] <hlm> Scunizi, there is no system>preferences>theme
[19:54] <Daniel_G> i'm having some trouble with bind9, ive psoted the issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1072230 - does anyone have any ideas?
[19:55] <LostChain> can anyone help me figure out what i need to do to install the cube interface
[19:55] <IndyGunFreak> hlm: system/pref/appearance/theme tab
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> LostChain do your windows wobble now
[19:55] <illbeatu> so what's this default user 'ubuntu'
[19:55] <LostChain> yes
[19:55] <hlm> !pm>bm
[19:55] <Scunizi> hlm: re-read my line.. you missed a step
[19:55] <hlm> Scunizi, I am sorry, I tent to do that :(
[19:55] <jdo> going ok.
[19:56] <hlm> !pm>bm
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> LostChain Install ccsm  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager Next go to system...pref..advanced desktop effects....  On the first page  put check next to rotate cube and desktop cube.. dbl click general options... up closer to the top...  click on desktop size  and set them to 4, 1 and 1  top to bottom... ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
[19:56] <Scunizi> hlm: the visual eqivelent of fat fingers  :)
[19:57] <cheeseburger> anyone know how i can use... apt-get? synaptic? to download 1 deb and its DEPENDENCIES,  (NOT install) ? TYVM!!!
[19:57] <illbeatu> Can anyone tell me how Ubuntu is managing users and groups? it says "login as user ubuntu in 10 seconds"
[19:57] <illbeatu> and i never ever created a user 'ubuntu'
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> cheeseburger yes, you can, please lose the caps..
[19:57] <IndyGunFreak> cheeseburger: your'e just trying to download the dependencies, for a deb?
[19:57] <skel> cheeseburger: apt-get -d ?
[19:57] <LostChain> what package do i need to install for my cube interface to work
[19:57] <illbeatu> god ubuntu is pretty retarded
[19:57] <cheeseburger> IndyGunFreak: and the deb the dependencies are for. Sweet! Thank you all! Do you know where the packages will go? ^_^;;
[19:57] <Frantic> anyone knows why I get "unknown symbol" errors when doing a modprobe ath9k?
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> LostChain Did you read what I wrote
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> LostChain Install ccsm  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager Next go to system...pref..advanced desktop effects....  On the first page  put check next to rotate cube and desktop cube.. dbl click general options... up closer to the top...  click on desktop size  and set them to 4, 1 and 1  top to bottom... ctrl+alt+(Left Mouse Button) then move mouse
[19:58] <cheeseburger> Jack_Sparrow: sorry I've been trying for days LOL and I don't have internet at home so I gotta drive alll the way to the liibrary.. it sucks...
[19:58] <DIFH-iceroot> cheeseburger: apt-get install paketname -d
[19:58] <Frantic> errm i mean ath5k
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[19:58] <LostChain> can i use synaptic to search for ccsm
[19:58] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: which atheros device do you have?
[19:58] <deea> no one can help me with my compiz problem?
[19:59] <illbeatu> so no one knows Where this magical "ubuntu" account comes from ?
[19:59] <illbeatu> that logs in after 10 seconds
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> LostChain  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:59] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: I'm not sure what you mean, a laptop with a atheros wifi card
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lost ccsm is compixconfig
[19:59] <illbeatu> what's a "live session user"
[19:59] <LostChain> ok cool
[19:59] <danub> none of them worked jack
[20:00] <hlm> is it possible to set an account that has no password, but no privileges either
[20:00] <Scunizi> illbeatu: that would be someone that is using a live cd
[20:00] <LostChain> Jack_Sparrow: i used synaptic to install it, thanx
[20:00] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: well there's a lot of different atheros chipsets, open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes(thats a lowercase L), hit enter, and see how it identifies your wireless device
[20:00] <LostChain> i just for the life of me cant remember the name of the app
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> illbeatu livecd uses ubuntu as user, or it could be set to automatically login in the login manager
[20:00] <illbeatu> hrm. it never asked me to eject cd after restarting that's probably it
[20:00] <danub> for hd0,0 i got the error invalid executable, for the others, it was unknown device or something
[20:01] <illbeatu> bah
[20:01] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: ar242x
[20:01] <illbeatu> do i have to reinstall ubuntu over again?
[20:01] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: you using 32bit?
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> illbeatu not likely
[20:01] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: yep
[20:01] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: is ath5k not the way to go? :)
[20:01] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: you don't need ath9k for that device... what are you trying to do to setup that device?
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> danub sorry, cant help you further .. I need to run soon
[20:02] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: it's ath5k actually :)
[20:02] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.. Frantic are you using 8.10?.. and what are you doing trying to make it work?
[20:02] <chaosrl> can anyone help me connecct to an ad-hoc network
[20:02] <chaosrl> ?
[20:02] <danub> ok, ill just reinstall the windows loader and go from there
[20:02] <bengji> sorry if this is not the right place for this question,  I been looking and analyzing apps for backup of ubuntu server on remote location but didnt really find something good, does anybody know a good app for backing up Ubuntu servers to remote location
[20:02] <cheeseburger> DIFH-iceroot: well i dont want to install the package. I just want apt-get to check what the dependencies are, and download it and all dependencies. I'm not on my computer. the deb is for my ubuntu at home
[20:02] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: and installing it because ath_pci doesn't work with the 2.6.27 kernel (only 2.6.24), yep 8.10
[20:02] <lesshaste> is there a ubuntu+nvidia channel?
[20:03] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: how are you "installing" ath5k?..
[20:03] <vigo> benji: bacula
[20:03] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: and it does work w/ 2.6.27
[20:03] <DIFH-iceroot> cheeseburger: man apt-get will tell you that -d only download the debs
[20:03] <bengji> thnks vigo i'll take a look at that
[20:04] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: installed a intrepid-backports package, googled it
[20:04] <vigo> begji: also are others, HUB is home use, but bacula is what I think you are looking for
[20:04] <cheeseburger> DIFH-iceroot:  oh thank god, because it said "The following packages will be REMOVED" ^^; Thanks much!
[20:04] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: go to system/admin/hardware drivers
[20:05] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: you mean to enable the default driver?
[20:05] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: no, do you have 1 or two atheros options there
[20:06] <Frantic> two, after installing the backports module, before only had 1
[20:06] <Frantic> the 2nd is about the 5 thingy :)
[20:06] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: right... are they both enabled?
[20:06] <Frantic> nope, actually none are
[20:06] <bengji> Vigo, i just read the features of bacula looks like this is what i need, thanks again VIGO
[20:06] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: well, thats part of the problem.... enable "Support for 5xxxx series..."  then restart, leave "Support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan cards" disabled
[20:07] <DIFH-iceroot> cheeseburger: hm dont know, never tried -d
[20:07] <lesshaste> obviously not :)
[20:07] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: ok, gonna try it :)
[20:07] <Scunizi> How do I chown a directory and it's subdirectories and files to be owned by me?  I've sudo chown -R <user>:<user> <primaryDirectory> and it changed it but nothing inside it.
[20:08] <burkmat> Scunizi, Are you sure it didn't change anything below...? -R is the right switch
[20:08] <Thoku> chown -R <user>:<group> <directory>
[20:09] <Scunizi> burkmat: yep.. the directory below the main is still shown with a lock and looking at the permissions it shows "Folder Access - Access files" Group= no folder access /  Others Folder Access None
[20:10] <burkmat> Well... You can't chown something you're not authorized to chown? Try sudo?
[20:10] <ibuclaw> Scunizi, is it a mounted directory ?
[20:10] <judget_> I have been noticing that my USB connected drive seems to loose connectivity then re mount as another instance
[20:10] <donald> what do i have to install so that if necessary i can remote into this computer over the internet, i was thinking of vnc server but im not sure which one i need to be able to see with vnc viewer and also have it start automatically
[20:10] <Daniel_G> i'm having some trouble with bind9, ive psoted the issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1072230 - does anyone have any ideas?
[20:10] <Scunizi> burkmat: it was done with sudo
[20:10] <j0nr> evenin all
[20:10] <j0nr> i am trying to set up vnc with xdmcp using xinetd and vnc4server... when testing 'vncviewer localhost:1' it asks me for my password but then says VNC server closed connection
[20:11] <Scunizi> ibuclaw: it is a directory on my drive/desktop.. yes..
[20:11] <j0nr> i used this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5229232&postcount=458
[20:11] <burkmat> Scunizi, Hm... Is this just some random folder on your hdd?
[20:11] <donald> anyone?
[20:11] <Scunizi> burkmat: see above
[20:11] <chaosrl> can anyone help me in connecting to an ad-hoc network? network-manager is killing itself trying
[20:11] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: did it work?
[20:11] <judget_> is there any known issue with fuse or usb that coulc cause my external drive to loose connectivity then remount as another instance?
[20:11] <burkmat> donald, Iirc, Ubuntu has vnc server by default, so just System -> prefs -> Remote Desktop and enable it, then forward port 5900?
[20:12] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: sry not done yet, tried sth else too :)
[20:12] <donald> ok thanks does anything have to be setup if no router is in place?
[20:12] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[20:12] <Scunizi> burkmat: ibuclaw it was a file that was in my trash that I removed to the desktop to change the permissions so I could actually delete it without have to use gksudo nautilus
[20:12] <deany> chmod
[20:12] <deany> Scunizi, you need to chmod it
[20:12] <burkmat> Scunizi, You want to delete it?
[20:12] <IndyGunFreak> Frantic: well, the *right* way to do it, is to disable that driver, install the backport modules, restart, and it should work fine.. anything you did other than that, you should probably "un do"
[20:12] <Scunizi> burkmat: yep
[20:13] <burkmat> Scunizi, So just `sudo rm -rf` it?
[20:13] <Frantic> IndyGunFreak: yep, working on that actually :)
[20:13] <mustangg1> where do the actual key mappings live for things like XF86Tools or XF86Mail, as listed in keyboard shortcuts?
[20:13] <chubbs4u> hi
[20:13] <deany> Scunizi, oh i thought you wanted to own it and take off the "lock" icon..
[20:13] <cheeseburger> Does anyone know where packages downloaded from apt-get go to? it's not in /etc/apt
[20:13] <chubbs4u> does UBUNTU compatible with chubbs?
[20:13] <burkmat> Scunizi, ...and as deany just said, chown probably did grant you ownership just that owner doesn't have rights to touch. good thinking deany, didn't even cross my mind :p
[20:14] <Scunizi> burkmat: ah.. forgot about that... like deany mentioned.. it was an exercise in not just deleting it but also an exercise in changing permission correctly from terminal so I wouldn't have to rm -rf.. chmod I think did it.
[20:14] <ibuclaw> cheeseburger, /var/cache/archives
[20:15] <cheeseburger> ibuclaw:  i thought /var was just for logs. I discovered a  whole other world now :P thank you
[20:15] <ibuclaw> cheeseburger, sorry, /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:15] <Scunizi> burkmat: deany I chmod -R 777 <directory> and that did it after the previous chown.. Thanks for the help.
[20:15] <vigo> Where is there an online primer for the /commands?
[20:15] <ibuclaw> cheeseburger, no problem :)
[20:16] <deany> np
[20:17] <deany> 755 is more recommended as the "norm"
[20:17] <jj193> Linux newb question:  while mounting any USB storage device on Ubuntu 8.04 i get this error: "cannot mount volume.    Invalid mountoption when attempting to mount the volume ..."
[20:17] <hlm> !usplash
[20:17] <hlm> ubottu, thank you!
[20:17] <ibuclaw> cheeseburger, this may be a good reference to you if you are still learning the Linux filesystem hierachy structure ;) http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilestruct.html
[20:17] <hlm> ubottu, thanks
[20:17] <yoyoned> vigo: like what?
[20:17] <hlm> !firefox
[20:18] <ScottG489> Is it possible to get conky to display information from a single process? Like say I want it to show a historical graph of Firefox's use of the network, CPU, and RAM
[20:18] <Binman180> Im trying to install ubuntu on a 15" LCD but the monitor is displaying a message saying that it is out of range and i can only see half of the installer, i clicked text based installer
[20:18] <cheeseburger> ibuclaw: I've been with Linux since 97, but I'm starting to become "Dumb" *cough* I'm not being silly, it's true ;P Oh I'll get back on track someday :P
[20:18] <Binman180> Could you share some insite?
[20:18] <chubbs4u> can i get chubbs fromUBUNTU?
[20:18] <ibuclaw> cheeseburger, haha
[20:18] <mustangg1> where does XF86Mail keyboard shortcut get defined as evolution? I would like to fix it to reflect my actual desktop.
[20:19] <vigo> yoyoned: Like the basics of it, I get really confused and have a ton of backups , I figure an easy primer could help me and others.
[20:19] <istvan> i can't seem to figure out how to use VLC to stream video to the network, any tutorials out there? i can't find any...
[20:19] <RusBoy> hi guys how can i make /proc/net/route accessiable not only to root ?
[20:19] <istvan> I can controll vlc with the network interface, but not see the video in my browser
[20:20] <Scunizi> hlm: you can play with the bot in #ubuntu-bots
[20:20] <istvan> !vlc
[20:20] <hlm> Scunizi, thanks for the info, this makes me extremely happy :-)
[20:21] <mustangg1> !XF86Mail
[20:21] <yoyoned> vigo: I'm sorry I may have missed some earlier conversations.  What are you trying to do/learn
[20:21] <jj193> Linux newb question:  while mounting any USB storage device on Ubuntu 8.04 i get this error: "cannot mount volume.    Invalid mountoption when attempting to mount the volume ..."
[20:21] <Scunizi> jj193: is the usb stick formatted with NTFS?
[20:21] <jj193> Yes
[20:22] <jj193> But i have tried FAT32, same problems
[20:22] <Scunizi> jj193: hum.. do you have anything important on it?
[20:22] <jj193> and plugging into and out a window system, safely removing many times
[20:22] <jj193> Not that i cant back up on a windows system
[20:22] <Scunizi> jj193: also are you plugging it in directly to the usb port on the computer or through a hub?
[20:22] <jj193> but im using it to transfer some files, directly into pc too
[20:23] <benc> how do I create an interactive package that prompt a user for his mail and store it in  /etc/packagename.conf
[20:23] <vigo> yoyoned: I wish to run two versions of Ubuntu, 1 on HDMaster, 1 on HDslave, 8,04 and 8.10 respectively, I need one to learn or relearn the commands and where I am messing up at.
[20:23] <bangalibabu> hello everyone
[20:23] <Scunizi> jj193: is it being plugged directly into a hub?
[20:23] <mustangg1> so where does the system relate kb shortcut XF86Mail with evolution, just for eg...?
[20:23] <jj193> directly onto PC
[20:23] <burkmat> !hi | bangalibabu
[20:23] <yoyoned> vigo: what is installed now
[20:24] <hlm> where are the !usplash themes located at?
[20:24] <jj193> no hub involved
[20:24] <bangalibabu> thank you
[20:24] <Scunizi> jj193: weird.. is this a fresh install of ubuntu? have you done the updates yet?
[20:24] <jj193> ive done the updates
[20:24] <jj193> it's an install this day though
[20:24] <vigo> yoyoned: 8.04
[20:25] <madhatter1> Hey everyone, Im running ubuntu server 8.10 and have an external HDD (NTFS) connected. The mount seems to work just fine, but sometimes it just says I cannot connect to the device.. Restarting then remounting the drive fixes it every time, but I dont want to have to reboot every time the drive has the issues. Is there a command to perhaps ntfs-3g services or a service that deals with talking to that drive? Thanks
[20:25] <yoyoned> vigo: do you wnat to install 8.10 using an install cd
[20:25] <Scunizi> jj193: open a terminal and type or cut and paste .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:25] <vigo> yoyoned: yes
[20:26] <Jufis> any recommendations for shoutcast streaming (client)?
[20:26] <hlm> where is the usplash folder located at?
[20:26] <Scunizi> Jufis: streamtuner
[20:26] <Jufis> Scunizi, thank you
[20:26] <Scunizi> np
[20:26] <RusBoy>  hi guys how can i make /proc/net/route accessiable not only to root ?
[20:27] <hlm> !folders
[20:27] <hlm> !folder
[20:27] <hlm> !dir
[20:27] <hlm> !files
[20:27] <FloodBot2> hlm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <gbrethen> looking for gtk# 2.12.7 for ubuntu 8.10
[20:27] <hlm> FloodBot2, im sorry :(
[20:27] <DIFH-iceroot> RusBoy: chmod, but why yu want do this?
[20:27] <Scunizi> hlm: go to /join #ubuntu-bots and play there.. flooding isn't good here
[20:28] <hlm> Scunizi, I am sorry :(
[20:28] <jj193> Kk ive done all that
[20:28] <hlm> where is the usplash folder?
[20:28] <doctormo> Anyone ever done PXE boot ubuntu installs with preseeding?
[20:28] <Jufis> Scunizi, any application to allow streaming? seems like streamtuner is only for listening
[20:28] <gbrethen> where can I get gtk# 2.12.7 for ubuntu 8.10
[20:28] <Scunizi> jj193: put my nick in the line when you answer so I can "see" it.. just type the first few characters and hit TAB for auto completion.. did the updates update anything?
[20:28] <Fireblazer> Hey
[20:29] <Fireblazer> I recently installed the kubuntu-desktop package
[20:29] <Fireblazer> But KDE won't rin
[20:29] <jj193> Scunizi, no
[20:29] <yoyoned> vigo: install 8.10 onto the second drive.  during the installation, install grub on the root partition, not the MBR.  reboot into 8.04 and add a line to menu.lst like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/119369/
[20:29] <Fireblazer> run*
[20:29] <jj193> Scunizi, was alreaddy up to date
[20:29] <burkmat> !enter | Fireblazer
[20:29] <Jockeo> I want to send an .avi file to a person, but the file is too large to be attached to an e-mail. What is the simplest way (simplest for the receiver) to "send" the file to him? Maybe there is a website where I can share it with password protection? The file is 20MB and it must be available for 5 days.
[20:29] <vigo> yoyoned: Thank you
[20:29] <mustangg1> !xmodmap
[20:29] <jj193> Scunizi, it's NTFS atm btw
[20:30] <ibuclaw> Fireblazer, you select it as the default desktop in at your login screen?
[20:30] <Fireblazer> No
[20:30] <fearful> Anyone know where the debug logs are stored for Pidgin?
[20:30] <Scunizi> jj193: sometimes that line catches things that update manager might miss .. so you have different usb sticks of different brands and none work?
[20:30] <Fireblazer> I just set it as the current session
 RusBoy: chmod, but why yu want do this?
[20:31] <RusBoy> because i get this
[20:31] <jj193> Scunizi, Yes - 3 different ones all don't work.
[20:31] <RusBoy> err:iphlpapi:getNumWithOneHeader Unable to open '/proc/net/route' to count entries!
[20:31] <jj193> Scunizi, all work on windows machine fine though
[20:31] <Scunizi> jj193: brb.. phone
[20:32] <Fireblazer> ibuclaw, I think the error is "ksmserver failed to start"
[20:32] <jj193> Jockeo, set up a hotmail and use skydrive and give him the hotmail details
[20:33] <Jockeo> jj193: Thanks, I'll look that up.
[20:33] <Fireblazer> I gtg
[20:33] <Fireblazer> Cya
[20:34] <Fireblazer> I think I got it
[20:34] <madhatter1> Hey everyone, Im running ubuntu server 8.10 and have an external HDD (NTFS) connected. The mount seems to work just fine, but sometimes it just says I cannot connect to the device.. Restarting then remounting the drive fixes it every time, but I dont want to have to reboot every time the drive has the issues. Is there a command to perhaps ntfs-3g services or a service that deals with talking to that drive?
[20:34] <Scunizi> jj193: plug one of the sticks in and in a terminal type sudo fdisk -l then past the results to pastebin.com and give the link here.
[20:35] <jj193> Scunizi, one secound - i think its started working now
[20:36] <Scunizi> jj193: did it?
[20:36] <jj193> Scunizi, my phone has but no my usb
[20:37] <jj193> Scunizi, i'll do that still because it's best to get it sorted because it seems a little tempromental
[20:37] <Scunizi> jj193: with the stick in the machine you can also type sudo mount -a and see if it comes alive
[20:37] <Cheery> can I somehow use opencl on ubuntu?
[20:38] <thecoolone191> anyone in here have the unfortunate experience trying to setup dual monitor with ubuntu 8.04 ?
[20:38] <Cheery> thecoolone191: me
[20:38] <Cheery> or wait.. 04
[20:38] <jj193> Scunizi,  mount -a didn't work.. I'll try the first thing - sudo fdisk..
[20:39] <Cheery> thecoolone191: have done it only on 8.10
[20:39] <thecoolone191> Cheery: doesnt matter. I tried to get it working on 7.10 but gave up in the end. And just upgraded to 8.04
[20:39] <thecoolone191> Cheery: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6727120
[20:39] <behnam> Bonsoir
[20:40] <thecoolone191> Cheery: this has turn from being an interesting challenge to a frustrating problem
[20:40] <behnam> ( ouups )
[20:40] <behnam> Hello :)
[20:40] <Gaming4JC> hey all. Here's a (I think) simple question. Can I install software via "sudo apt-get" from a CD? Basically I need the command line version of what synaptic does when I add the CD as a rep?
[20:40] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: synaptic uses apt-get so.. yes :)
[20:40] <^Cheeky> hi , i am using ubuntu 8.10, and i dunno if its the codecs, but when i used to stream music it used to be fine .. when i came to my computer today, i dont have any sound i stoped alsa-utils and started it back up again but i have no luck, i also made sure nothing was muted ;
[20:40] <behnam> Honnestly, is Linux Mint lighter(?) / faster (?) than a basic Ubuntu 8.10 using Gnome ? :)
[20:41] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi: So what's the command to apt-get from a CD?
[20:41] <Cheery> thecoolone191: woah. I've only did that with single graphics card
[20:41] <RusBoy> guys who can help me with
[20:41] <thecoolone191> Cheery: is that impossible ??
[20:41] <RusBoy>  err:iphlpapi:getNumWithOneHeader Unable to open '/proc/net/route' to count entries!
[20:41] <Gaming4JC> apt-get = online normally.
[20:41] <RusBoy> ?
[20:41] <Gnea> behnam: that's like asking if we prefer using windows instead of ubuntu ;)
[20:41] <ibuclaw> Gaming4JC, if the cdrom is added as a source, then it will ask you to insert a CDROM
[20:41] <Cheery> thecoolone191: I don't know
[20:41] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: in the software sources you have to enable the cd option.. It's probably commented out.
[20:41] <ibuclaw> if the CDROM source is the newest version
[20:41] <jj193> Scunizi,  the link: http://pastebin.com/m2213d99a
[20:41] <behnam> Gnea: I understand, I was just trying to find different opinions
[20:42] <Cheery> thecoolone191: for all sense, it doesn't sound impossible, just.. probably very rare
[20:42] <thecoolone191> Cheery: i have two seperate xorg.conf files that work for one graphics controller at a time. But when i try to move them into a single xorg.conf file thats when the problem begins
[20:42] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi: I know how to do it via the GUI software sources. But not from terminal. :-/
[20:42]  * Gaming4JC googles...
[20:42] <Scunizi> jj193: ok.. the stick plugged  in .. is it formatted with fat?
[20:42] <jj193> Yes
[20:42] <ZeroA4> thecoolone191, i did an 4 monitor dual card setup on ubuntu once... using nvidia cards and nvidia-settings...
[20:42] <thecoolone191> Cheery: i have almost 50+ Xor1ng files
[20:42] <jj193> Scunizi, Yes
[20:43] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: use gui to insure the cd is "active" as a source
[20:43] <thecoolone191> ZeroA4: nVidia has better support than ATI :(
[20:43] <ZeroA4> thecoolone191, your cards are ati ?
[20:43] <thecoolone191> i have spent almost 5 "whole" days trying to make ubuntu to play nice
[20:43] <Gnea> thecoolone191: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo ?
[20:43] <Scunizi> jj193: ok.. now try this in terminal.. sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[20:43] <pronto> hey! nvidia has new driver update :D
[20:44] <thecoolone191> Gnea: i have already read that
[20:44] <Gnea> thecoolone191: http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=dual+monitor ?
[20:44] <thecoolone191> ZeroA4: i have an ATI controller and an onboard Intel controller
[20:44] <IndyGunFreak> Gnea: what is your graphics device?
[20:44] <thecoolone191> Gnea: i have gone through them all... and followed all the instructions...
[20:44] <belda> my 5+1 sound (soundlaster live) got screwed and plays just 2 channels and distorted
[20:44] <deany> how can you install ubuntu (whatever version), on a netbook with 2gig HD
[20:44] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi: It is. Now I just need to do it from terminal. Because I am trying to install gnome on a fluxbox from the Ubuntu 8.10 LiveCD :P
[20:44] <Gnea> thecoolone191: I think the problem you have is that you're trying to mix an intel and an ati together
[20:45] <deany> since, you cant select NOT to install everything you dont want
[20:45] <ZeroA4> thecoolone191, nvidia cards have and special xinerama mode called twinview... i think ati has an similar thing by other name
[20:45] <thecoolone191> ZeroA4: here is my post http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6727120
[20:45] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: you mean enable it from terminal?
[20:45] <Gnea> IndyGunFreak: nvidia at home, ati at work
[20:45] <IndyGunFreak> Gnea: i meant the guy you were helpin, sorry
[20:45] <thecoolone191> Gnea: i have created seperate Device/Screen/Monitor sections for both the Intel and ATI controllers in the xorg.conf file
[20:45] <Kradziej> hihihi
[20:45] <Gnea> IndyGunFreak: oh, he's got an intel and an ati
[20:46] <jj193> Scunizi, It works thankyou very much. Do i need to save thoose commands for future? if so is it just these: sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[20:46] <thecoolone191> and my ATI isnt dual head :(
[20:46] <IndyGunFreak> Gnea: then youre right,t hats likely the issue, using two different graphics cads.
[20:46] <Gnea> thecoolone191: and you've tried turning the computer off and on while both monitors are on?
[20:46] <yoyoned> deany: use the server install and add what you need or use something made for netbooks
[20:46] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi: No I am running a modified Ubuntu with Xfce, hence I need gnome and I got Dial-Up. The only way to get it is from CD. but apt-get =online repos instead of my repo CD
[20:46] <alex_> why does my flash player still not work. I downloaded the .deb package from adobe
[20:46] <alex_> why does it not work?
[20:46] <^Cheeky> anyone could give me some insight to the problem i have @ hand ?
[20:46] <DIFH-iceroot> alex_: why not using apt-get?
[20:46] <thecoolone191> Gnea: yeah. i ran in recovery mode and tried tweaking the xorg.conf file and run startx to test the two controller
[20:47] <IndyGunFreak> alex_: did you restart firefox?
[20:47] <cmv583> can anyone help . I have now window borders or minimize/maximize/exit buttons either and can't figure out why.
[20:47] <yoyoned> Gaming4JC: use synaptic and add the cd as  a repo
[20:47] <jj193> deany, get unetboot and install ubuntu to a usb and then boot from usb.
[20:47] <thecoolone191> and they work fine when i use just one of them at a time
[20:47] <alex_> that I did INdygunfreak
[20:47] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: jj193 well.. just was sort of a hack to get it to work.. save them yes.. but the system should recognize the sticks are there and mount them automatically.. so the underlying problem is still there.. maybe after a reboot that won't happen anymore..
[20:47] <alex_> i'm not THAT dumb
[20:47] <deany> yoyoned, not for me, someone i know..   the netbook versions usually have a kiddie version of UI
[20:47] <ZeroA4> thecoolone191, did you try RandR ?
[20:47] <Gnea> thecoolone191: I think, at best, is that you can run 2 different X servers at the same time - one on each display, but not concurrently with one desktop shared between them.
[20:47] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi: I want to 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' but have apt-get search my CD. Basically. :-)
[20:47] <IndyGunFreak> alex_: you're a little to senstive, i didn't suggest you were dumb... good luck.
[20:47] <ibuclaw> alex_, have you checked about:plugins in firefox ?
[20:47] <alex_> i used the package manager
[20:47] <negonicrac> test
[20:47] <alex_> to install the 2 star program as well
[20:47] <jj193> Scunizi,  thanks, your help is very much appreciated.
[20:47] <thecoolone191> ZeroA4: tried it on 7.10 not today after the upgrade to 8.04 though
[20:47] <ibuclaw> negonicrac, we are hearing you :)
[20:48] <Gaming4JC> yoyoned: I would have done that but I don't have Synaptic Either, lol. It's Xfce.
[20:48] <thecoolone191> Gnea: how can i do that?? and is that even possible ?
[20:48] <negonicrac> yeah I was having problems with my password. thanks
[20:48] <Gaming4JC> you know xubuntu
[20:48] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: not sure you can do that off a live cd or not.. if you were using aptoncd you could.  aptoncd is a way to create a cd that will act like a repo for the files you put on it.
[20:49]  * thecoolone191 google's "two X servers dual monitor"
[20:49] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: if you
[20:49] <IndyGunFreak> deany: ubuntu on a 2gig hard drive, thats a tight fit
[20:49] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: if you're not hooked to the internet with that machine you could apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and it should look at the cd by default anyway.. give it a try
[20:49] <zash> IndyGunFreak: you can fit linux + x on ~50MB
[20:50] <deany> yeah, i know..... it "HAD" a custom version by Asus
[20:50] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi: Ok I'll give it a shot.
[20:50] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak: unless he does it like the usb install with the live cd and persistance
[20:50] <yoyoned> Gaming4JC: check bottom of page http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html
[20:50] <thecoolone191> Gnea: something like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707238 ?
[20:50] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: yeah, i'm not sure if a "normal" install, would fit on a 2gig drive
[20:50] <Gnea> thecoolone191: of course it is! just take your xorg.conf and configure it for one card, then make an xorg2.conf and configure it for the other card, then just startx on tty1, and startx -init :1  or something like that, can't rmeember it exactly
[20:50] <sandeep> May I delete all the .deb files in my share lib? to make some more space on my tiny harddrive?
[20:51] <Gnea> er yeah, startx -- :1
[20:51] <jj193> deany, Eee pc? if you want to put ubuntu there eeeubuntu which is made for eee pc
[20:51] <hobofood_> hey guys, where can i go for tech support?
[20:51] <Gnea> hobofood_: you're here
[20:51] <ikonia> hobofood_: with what
[20:51] <Gaming4JC> yoyoned: Thanks! This looks like just what I was looking for. I can define apt to search for a CD
[20:51] <Scunizi> hobofood_: ask here.. if
[20:51] <thecoolone191> Gnea: alrite. thanks for the suggestion. im off to try that out. see you in 10-20 mins ;)
[20:51] <Scunizi> you want
[20:51] <deany> yeah but those have the playskool interfaces
[20:51] <gbrethen> where can I get the latest updates to mono for ubuntu 8.10?
[20:51] <deany> its what she had on it...
[20:52] <hobofood_> ikonia - x starts, the cursor changes to the fancy gnome waitcursor then nothing else happens
[20:52] <hobofood_> so i guess gdm
[20:52] <_VIM_> !latest | gbrethen
[20:52] <deany> she got a guy to put xp on it,  now shes got 200mb free space
[20:52] <IndyGunFreak> deany: itsnot that bad, but i like a normal ubuntu interface also.
[20:52] <InDaLivingRoom> where can i increase the systems and mmmenu font sizes?
[20:52] <yoyoned> Gaming4JC:  no
[20:52] <jj193> deany, buy a card and put it in the slot
[20:52] <yoyoned> Gaming4JC: np
[20:52] <thecoolone191> ZeroA4, Cheery and Gnea: thanks for your feedback. Its good to finally hear some other thoughts besides the one running in my frustrated mind :)
[20:52] <jj193> deany, a SDHC card and leave it as a permanent solution.
[20:52] <gbrethen> ex: jaunty has libgtk2.0-cil 2.12.7 but intrepid has 2.12.1?
[20:52] <Gnea> thecoolone191: no problem :)
[20:53] <gbrethen> I need to get to 2.12.7
[20:53] <gnuskool> InDaLivingRoom: system--->pref----->appearances---->font
[20:53] <Tomanak> Hello UbuntuUsers
[20:55] <InDaLivingRoom> gnuskool: err..somehow i dont see font sizes there...
[20:55] <walter_> hello
[20:55] <InDaLivingRoom> gnuskool: oh! now i do, thanks!
[20:55] <walter_> i am in duesseldorf
[20:56] <skel> walter_: hello
[20:56] <gnuskool> InDaLivingRoom: :D
[20:56] <DIFH-iceroot> walter_: kölle alaf :)
[20:56] <walter_> alaf
[20:56] <KeyboardSlave> hey
[20:56] <jj193> deany,  do you want to put ubuntu onto it so that you have more space, or because you have ubuntu. If it's because you want more space you can get an 8 or 16gb SDHC card and leave it in the eeepc and they're fairly cheap (15 quid)
[20:56] <guntbert> !de | walter_
[20:56] <walter_> samstag abend
[20:57] <mustangg1> so everyone with gnome uses evolution - or is there a way to change those default application settings for kb shortcuts ?
[20:58] <walter_> hi man it is no problem just comprehendall
[20:58] <satrix> hi to all
[20:58] <satrix> please help
[20:58] <guntbert> !ot | walter_
[20:58] <gnuskool> yo
[20:59] <satrix> clamtk report a virus in /home/satrix/.mozilla/firefox/x8iqjg7h.default/Cache/16CF71B7d01
[20:59]  * skel can't wait for gnome 2.26
[20:59] <walter_> many linux people
[20:59] <walter_> hi schmidt
[20:59] <KeyboardSlave> Hey guys
[20:59] <walter_> how are you
[20:59] <skel> hello
[21:00] <satrix>  clamtk report a virus in /home/satrix/.mozilla/firefox/x8iqjg7h.default/Cache/16CF71B7d01
[21:00] <Guest44373> salut
[21:00] <KeyboardSlave> good ty
[21:00] <gnuskool> skel: whats 2.26 promising
[21:00] <ikonia> !offtopic
[21:00] <satrix> how get ridd off this
[21:00] <KeyboardSlave> quick question, whats a  bash command to view my running proccesses i tried ps -a but it dosnt seem to show the proccess i have running in gnome..
[21:00] <sven_> hello all, what is good software in (k)ubuntu to work with php? Not local but on the server.... tx!!
[21:00] <ikonia> KeyboardSlave: ps -ef
[21:01] <ikonia> sven_: vi
[21:01] <Daniel_G> i'm having some trouble with bind9, ive psoted the issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1072230 - does anyone have any ideas?
[21:01] <KeyboardSlave> ty ikonia ^_^
[21:01] <sven_> ikonia: what?
[21:01] <KeyboardSlave> i was close lol should read the man better
[21:01] <satrix> I delete manualy the file
[21:01] <ikonia> sven_ vi
[21:01] <walter_> difficult
[21:01] <Royall> I have a folder in my Trash that just won't delete. I don't think I have the permissions for some reason. Is there some way to empty the Trash for a specific user using sudo/root?
[21:01] <sven_> ikonia: what is vi?
[21:01] <satrix> but every time when restart he s back as report virus in clamtk
[21:01] <skel> gnuskool: openchange plugin for native exchange support
[21:02] <ikonia> Daniel_G: use sudo before the start command
[21:02] <skel> gnuskool: in evolution
[21:02] <satrix>  clamtk report a virus in /home/satrix/.mozilla/firefox/x8iqjg7h.default/Cache/16CF71B7d01
[21:02] <Daniel_G> ikonia: its a server, im running as root
[21:02] <Guest44373> salut
[21:02] <Guest44373> hello
[21:02] <ikonia> Daniel_G: that's not an ubuntu server with the 2.6.26 kernel
[21:02] <ikonia> Daniel_G: if it - you've re-compiled your own kernel
[21:02] <satrix> nobody hel me?
[21:02] <Royall> When I try through sudo nautilus, it puts me in root...
[21:02] <satrix> nobody help me?
[21:03] <hlm> I cant change my usplash theme from default, I attempt to change it in startupmanager or manually, and I get the same result :'( help plz!
[21:03] <Daniel_G> ikonia: wadya mean, its not the server kernel
[21:03] <Daniel_G> ?
[21:03] <hlm> satrix, whats the problem?
[21:03] <guntbert> !patience | satrix
[21:03] <ikonia> Daniel_G: there is no 2.6.26-default kernel
[21:03] <satrix> hi hlm please try
[21:03] <ikonia> Daniel_G: ubuntu 8.04 is 2.6.24
[21:03] <satrix>  clamtk report a virus in /home/satrix/.mozilla/firefox/x8iqjg7h.default/Cache/16CF71B7d01
[21:03] <Daniel_G> ikonia: aye i figured it might be the result of the person who set it up, i'll look into that further then
[21:03] <ikonia> satrix: saying it over and over every 15 seconds won't get you attention
[21:03] <hlm> satrix, stay away from bad sites!
[21:03] <satrix> I got mistake and download some script
[21:03] <Royall> satrix: It looks like some bug with firefox, I'd ignore it.
[21:03] <ikonia> Daniel_G: just use the ubuntu default kernel
[21:03] <ikonia> Royall: what ?
[21:04] <ikonia> Royall: how can you say that
[21:04] <Tomanak> ubottu danke für den tipp, thank you for the german channels
[21:04] <hlm> noth, its a stored infected site
[21:04] <ikonia> Royall: antivirus is reporting a virus and you say it's a firefox bug ?
[21:04] <luffy> yos
[21:04] <Royall> ikonia: It's in the .mozilla/firefox directoy?
[21:04] <ikonia> Royall: cache
[21:04] <hlm> satrix, open firefox and press ctrl+shift+del
[21:04] <ikonia> Royall: as in cache for the browser
[21:04] <Royall> directory*
[21:04] <satrix> this is copy paste of clamtk virus report
[21:04] <satrix>  clamtk report a virus in /home/satrix/.mozilla/firefox/x8iqjg7h.default/Cache/16CF71B7d01
[21:04] <Royall> Well my bad
[21:04] <pronto> o.o
[21:04] <ikonia> satrix: you've said MANY times now
[21:04] <satrix> I delete manualy
[21:05] <satrix> but every time I rstart he back
[21:05] <ikonia> satrix: ok
[21:05] <Guest> ok, im booting from the recovery disk and i dont especially want to lose my files and such, do i go ahead and say yes to reformet teh hrd rive or not?
[21:05] <satrix> yes royal its in thath dir
[21:05] <ikonia> satrix: delete the cache directory, check the virus scan log to see what virus it's reporting
[21:05] <satrix> ikonia
[21:06] <satrix> I download some script
[21:06] <ikonia> satrix: yes, you said
[21:06] <ikonia> satrix: look at what the virus scanner is reporting it as so we can work out how to fix it
[21:06] <satrix> I know 2 days I try fix thath
[21:06] <DIFH-iceroot> Guest: format = losing the data on that hdd
[21:06] <KeyboardSlave> lol anyone know if its posible to recover files from a a Harddrive that was once NTFS but the partition table deleated and its not ext3 ...... the files wouldnt of been written over yet.....
[21:06] <Guest> well crap
[21:07] <ikonia> Guest: ?
[21:07] <dragon_> ubottu: enter | satrix
[21:07] <Cpudan80> ikonia: your solution earlier (USB key gives mount permissions error) worked
[21:07] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ooh really
[21:08] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I guess it was the fstab entry not having the user option causing the issue
[21:08] <Guest> i was hoping to not lose my pictures but obviously that isnt going to work
[21:09] <satrix> problem is because I know is very bad script
[21:09] <Barre> I got a problem with virt-manager and the --show-domain-console switch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/119385/  anyone have a clue on why I get the KeyError?
[21:09] <satrix> ikonia you there
[21:09] <mustangg1> Guest: there are surely those here who could explain how to dd an image of the drive to a "safe" location..
[21:09] <gianni> ciao
[21:10] <Guest> in order to get the laptop working im just going ot have to boot from the CD and cry about deleted pictures an documents later, arent I?
[21:10] <satrix> I delete cache in mozilla and he back again after restart
[21:10] <ibuclaw> Guest can you cancel the installation ?
[21:10] <Guest> yes
[21:10] <gianni> hi axon
[21:11] <Cpudan80> ikonia: yeah I dunno, weird ...
[21:11] <Guest> ibuclaw: i need ot cnacel dont I?
[21:11] <satrix> clamtk say is possible email virus and delete manualy
[21:11] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I do understand it, I'm just surprised that was the sole issue
[21:11] <red-lichtie> Guest: Do you have another drive (eg USB) that you can dd to ?
[21:11] <ibuclaw> Guest that would be preferable if you don't want to loose data
[21:11] <dragon_> Guest: cancel the recovery and use a LiveCD to boot and then copy your files somewhere else before you continue
[21:11] <KeyboardSlave> how do i get the user list up on xchat -_- , i tried under view and under window. -_-
[21:12] <satrix> Found 1 possible virus (3542 files scanned).
[21:12] <satrix> /home/satrix/.mozilla/firefox/x8iqjg7h.default/Cache/16CF71B7d01
[21:12] <Guest> Windows crashed which is why im trying to recover it
[21:12] <Cpudan80> ikonia: I did change some permissions in the policy thing a while back
[21:12] <ikonia> satrix: STOP saying it over and over
[21:12] <ikonia> satrix: we say ou the first 10 times
[21:12] <root> 哈哈
[21:12] <Cpudan80> ikonia: I gave my username rights to mount/unmount devices
[21:12] <Guest11874> 有没人？
[21:12] <Cpudan80> ikonia: but that didnt work before .... not sure why it would suddenly work now
[21:12] <mneptok> !hi
[21:12] <ikonia> Cpudan80: that shouldn't be a problem, but I suppouse it could be
[21:12] <KeyboardSlave> how do i get the user list up on xchat -_- , i tried under view and under window. -_- ?
[21:12] <Guest11874> hi
[21:12] <KeyboardSlave> hey :P
[21:12] <satrix> ikonia:you tell me a copy report of clamtk?
[21:13] <red-lichtie> Guest: You are using an Ubuntu LiveCD to try and save data on a windows partition ?
[21:13] <Guest11874> ?????????????????????????????//
[21:13] <Cpudan80> !jp Guest11874
[21:13] <ibuclaw> hello Guest11874
[21:13] <cbutle1> guest: I have used the live CD for data recovery - it's pretty easy. Just have an external drivew and/or thumb drive to move the files to - are you familiar with how to mount a drive?
[21:13] <Cpudan80> !jp | Guest11874
[21:13] <Guest> red-lichtie: yes, but windows crashed
[21:13] <Cpudan80> !cn | Guest11874
[21:13] <guntbert> !#ubuntu
[21:14] <red-lichtie> Guest: Can you mount the windows partition ?
[21:14] <ibuclaw> Guest, can you mount the filesystem ?
[21:14] <ibuclaw> what red-lichtie said :)
[21:14] <Guest> i have no idea how to do that
[21:15] <red-lichtie> Guest: Have any linux knowledge ?
[21:15] <mamad> bonsoir a tous
[21:15] <ibuclaw> Guest, if you cancel the installation for now, then go into 'Places -> Computer'
[21:15] <Guest> Windows CRASHED i cant do anything
[21:15] <Guest> thats why im trying to fix it
[21:15] <dragon_> Guest: do you have Ubuntu on your machine?
[21:15] <Guest> no
[21:16] <aGe> Hey guys. i need help.
[21:16] <dragon_> Guest: do you have an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[21:16] <adaptr> aGe: don't tell us, we'll beat it out of you
[21:16] <Guest> yes.
[21:16] <dragon_> !ask | aGe
[21:16] <dusty_> Hey guys, when creating an ssh tunnel using the -R it always binds the port to the loopback interface, how do i specify or tell it to bind to the external ip so i can actually access it outside of the box from another box ?
[21:16] <damaltor> hey everybody. is there a chance to get a nvidia geforce 4 tu run with kde4 in ubuntu 8.10?
[21:17] <aGe> i have playonlinus and wire. and i install it and  it keep on crashing
[21:17] <dragon_> Guest: use that LiveCD to boot into Ubuntu, then copy the data to a safe location, and then go ahead and clean the harddisk
[21:17] <exon> question : those day's  when i still worked on windhoze there was a program called  windhoze messenger that give the posibility to show other people your desktop and they could and they also could move your pointer etc ...a help funtion.  Is there somthing in Linux -Ubuntu world that makes this posible between 2 linux systems without having a terminal server running
[21:17] <ibuclaw> playonlinux and wine ...
[21:17] <ibuclaw> aGe, what application keeps crashing ?
[21:18] <aGe> !ask|adaptr  =o
[21:18] <aGe> !ask | ibuclaw Steam
[21:18] <Guest> ive never used ubuntu and im not going to install it until i know and im sure that it wont mess it up
[21:18] <dragon_> !botabuse | aGe
[21:18] <SmokeyD> aGe: cut that out please
[21:19] <adaptr> Guest: that's an unfortunate attitude, since you learn most by trying and failing
[21:19] <exon> is there somthing like help from distance . a virtual desktop help funtion like in windows messenger function?
[21:19] <fearful> adaptr very true:p
[21:19] <damaltor> hey everybody. is there a chance to get a nvidia geforce 4 tu run with kde4 in ubuntu 8.10?
[21:19] <redvamp128> Guest: why not just try it live first -- boot and choose the option of no changes.
[21:19] <ibuclaw> Guest, you should be able to mount the filesystem in Ubuntu, then backup all data to an external drive
[21:20] <kantor> hi
[21:20] <dragon_> Guest: LiveCD is for demo purposes, it makes no changes to your machine
[21:20] <Guest> i had help last night and i was supposed to be getting help from him today,
[21:20] <fearful> guest well we can help you..
[21:21] <kantor> I have a big request: could somebody test a program for me ? because I fixed a but and I would like to see if it work on other system too . .
[21:21] <killerboy> hello
[21:21] <dragon_> Guest: I'm wondering what brings you to this room..
[21:21] <vigo> yoyoned: Thank you again, other HD has bad sectors, I will find a workaround.
[21:21] <_dbd_l12> exon: system->preferences->remote desktop should do the trick. You can connect with any vnc client iirc. There's also a terminal server client (to connect to windows boxes) in the internet menu iirc
[21:21] <GnomeKing> How can I convert a .mid to a .wav? It plays perfectly in totem and nautilus
[21:22] <GnomeKing> it doesn't sound as good through timidity and fluidsynth gets the instruments wrong ;)
[21:22] <_dbd_l12> exon: or sudo apt-get install gnome-rdp
[21:22] <dragon_> GnomeKing: record the wav when it's being played in totem
[21:22] <dragon_> :P
[21:22] <GnomeKing> dragon_, yes, wonderful... how?
[21:22] <syockit> GnomeKing, dragon: hush don't do that
[21:23] <jj_galvez> I
[21:23] <aGe> Does anyone use playonlinux or wine. i am having problems with steam. when i load steam up it go fine and than it crashes is anyone have this type of problem if you did how did you egt over it
[21:23] <syockit> GnomeKing: use either fluidsynth stuff or timidity
[21:23] <adaptr> I got over it
[21:23] <adaptr> I just stopped playing
[21:23] <guntbert> !ot | kantor
[21:23] <genii> aGe: Issues with WINE they may be better equipped to assist with in the channel #winehq
[21:24] <jj_galvez> I'm mounting a directory using sshfs and starting yesturday I can't upload files to the folder any longer, it says 0 bytes available on a drive I know has room, any ideas?
[21:24] <GnomeKing> syockit, any clue how to make them sound the same as totem/nautilus then? cuz I dun get why the instruments are screwed up (they are using the wrong instruments but seem to be using the right sound font)
[21:24] <javier> hello i've got a problem i just made a fresh install of intrepid, but it doesn't seem to recognize the video card... the board is an asrock k7s41gx and the video card is an nvidia geforce 5500
[21:24] <josema> alguno que me heche una mano con el USB movistar
[21:24] <aGe> Thanks genii
[21:24] <genii> !es | josema
[21:24] <dalis> ciao
[21:24] <dalis> !list
[21:25] <syockit> GnomeKing: hmm, i dunno what backend totem or nautilus uses
[21:25] <syockit> wait, nautilus uses totem
[21:25] <vigo> aGe: did you look at this? http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1554
[21:25] <simon__> hello everyone
[21:25] <GnomeKing> that would explain why they both sound the same ;)
[21:25] <simon__> hi guys, im new to ubuntu, just got xubuntu
[21:25] <wasabi> i am having a seriously hard time trying to figure out how to get a cpu/system temp display thing up. lmsensors seems silly.
[21:26] <wasabi> with this manual text based module configuration
[21:26] <syockit> GnomeKing: what did you use to make it sound worse?
[21:26] <fearful> simon_: Hello
[21:26] <dragon_> syockit: i guess he used the default settings..
[21:27] <fearful> simon_: How can we help you today?
[21:27] <orgy`> hi, how can i delete everything thats related to themes under gnome?
[21:27] <GnomeKing> syockit, playing with fluidsynth (with -i <font> <file>) has the wrong instruments... but playing it through rosegarden with fluidsynth set up as an alsa device thingy has the right instruments (so its not necessarily fluidsynth?) and totem works without any changes at all
[21:27] <syockit> dragon_: but he says it sounds fine on totem
[21:27] <orgy`> seems like ive screwed anything, cause buttons dont change, when i change themes
[21:27] <syockit> GnomeKing: probably those apps have their own default settings i.e. they load different sf2 files
[21:28] <dragon_> syockit: then it could be fluidsynth's default
[21:28] <GnomeKing> well I set fluidsynth to use the same sf2 for command line and alsa device; so it should be the same in rosegarden to out of it...
[21:28] <dragon_> yeah
[21:28] <Mjook> is there a desktop applet or something where I can view the current currency rate of two currencies?
[21:28] <minivitale_> hi all, long time ubuntu user, first time irc er
[21:29] <GnomeKing> and totem appears to be using the same sf2 just by listening to it (I dun think there are others; and it was one I instlaled through apt, so its very plausible)
[21:29] <syockit> GnomeKing: prettymuch that's it
[21:29] <guntbert> minivitale_: what is your question?
[21:29] <javier> hello i've got a problem i just made a fresh install of intrepid, but it doesn't seem to recognize the video card... the board is an asrock k7s41gx and the video card is an nvidia geforce 5500
[21:29] <javier> hello i've got a problem i just made a fresh install of intrepid, but it doesn't seem to recognize the video card... the board is an asrock k7s41gx and the video card is an nvidia geforce 5500
[21:29] <syockit> totem uses either xine or gstreamer, now which one depends on libfluidsynth...
[21:30] <minivitale_> guntbert: you know the mp3 preview on a mouse-hover?
[21:30] <GnomeKing> hmmm - I'll try playing it with xine, didn't even think of that
[21:30] <minivitale_> guntbert: is there anythign similar for video?
[21:30] <co0lingFir3> hello, is there a keyboard layout for dead circumflex (but without dead acute)?
[21:30] <guntbert> minivitale_: no, I don't know - you should put your question to the channel
[21:31] <guntbert> !ask > minivitale_
[21:32] <dragon_> javier: sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[21:32] <_dbd_l12> GnomeKing: i'd read upon this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Three_Steps_to_MIDI_on_Linux and give timidity++ a try (with better soundpatches)
[21:32] <GnomeKing> syockit, sounds like its probably gstreamer - xine doesn't know midi ;)
[21:33] <GnomeKing> Thanks _dbd_l12
[21:33] <syockit> GnomeKing: I'm getting a midi to try out too. shostakovich - leningrad
[21:33] <pluma> I want to change my user account's locale (LC_*=en_GB, but LC_CTYPE and some others to de_DE). How do I do that in Intrepid (what files do I have to edit)? Exporting the envs in .bashrc doesn't seem to do anything for GNOME.
[21:34] <elvedin> If I resize my NTFS partitions and then go into the Ubuntu installer, will the unallocated space show up as "unusable" if I already have 4 primary partitions?
[21:34] <syockit> oooo had to install codec
[21:34] <GnomeKing> ah, _dbd_l12, that just tells ya how to set up timidity, which I've already got ;) it doesn't seem to be recognising the different instruments in the same way as fluidsynth command line gets it wrong (but fluidsynth alsa gets it right through rosegarden! very very odd)
[21:34] <EddieRingle> Can anyone help me figure out why I can't see any networks in Network Manager, nor can I connect to them manually?
[21:34] <tk3> where can I find the alpine 2.0 package? I seem to have two different 8.04 machines, one with v1.0 of alpine and one with v2.0 - no obvious reason for this...
[21:34] <mustangg1> how might I change what application the XF86xxx kb shortcuts refer to? Is there a single file, or are they actual symlinks or... ??
[21:35] <guntbert> elvedin: probably, as you can have only up to 4 primary partitions
[21:35] <jj_galvez> when I mount a folder with sshfs and check folder properties it states 0 bytes free, I know this is wrong how can I get around this?
[21:35] <Mjook> wow is there really no currency monitor for linux? I've looked everywhere
[21:35] <_dbd_l12> pluma: maybe dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[21:35] <syockit> GnomeKing: apparently, I was wrong: gstreamer uses libwildmidi
[21:35] <elvedin> OK, that makes sense
[21:36] <elvedin> I was wondering if my partition tools sucked or something
[21:36] <GnomeKing> humz - never heard of it! But I'm guessing there isn't a simple way of getting that to export to wav ;)
[21:36] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: this is normal behaviour ;-) it's probably in the sshfs faq somewhere
[21:36] <killerboy> how can i configure my printer with with PJL?
[21:37] <pluma> _dbd_l12: That doesn't seem to do ANYTHING. I need something that lets me set the envs individually.
[21:37] <_dbd_l12> pluma: sorry, no experience as how to do exactly that...
[21:37] <pluma> I think update-locale might be the answer. I'll try that now.
[21:37] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: but then when I try to move a file into the folder I get an error saying that the file can not be copies because there is no room
[21:38] <ymo> How do I get a bug report triaged? The bug breaks installation of Intrepid and Jaunty Alpha-4 on Cyrix CPU.
[21:38] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: I don't remember getting this error before, and now I cannot upload a file to that folder
[21:38] <EddieRingle> I cannot see networks in the Network Manager dropdown nor can I connect manually. Main card is BCM4306, Cisco 340 PCMCIA card does not work either
[21:39] <cotui> sevidor de mac
[21:39] <redvamp128> !bugs | ymo:
[21:40] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: very strange, normally sshfs would state "1000Gb" (1Tb free) incorrectly, as "the SFTP protocol doesn't have a statfs operation this is currently not possible to display proper usage on remote partition"
[21:40] <syockit> GnomeKing: there's a method of using gst-launch
[21:40] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: are you sure there is space left on the remote partition ?
[21:40] <ymo> I have - #329000
[21:40] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: yes I am sure, the drive has about 30GB of free space left
[21:40] <GnomeKing> ok, I'll look at that syockit - thanks
[21:41] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: hmm, this link (http://fritzthomas.com/open-source/linux/343-no-space-left-on-device-error-with-sshfs-how-to-fix-it/) suggests this could be a bug that was introduced recently
[21:42] <cotui> for de macx
[21:43] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: interesting I'll give that a try and see if it works
[21:43] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: you could download the deb for your architecture and then install it with sudo dpkg -i filename_xxx.deb
[21:43] <cotui> foro de mac
[21:43] <Rawul> hey hey  :]
[21:43] <Rawul> I have a DNS issue.. maybe someone could help?
[21:44] <syockit> GnomeKing: right now I'm doing this to convert: filesrc location=Leningrd.mid ! decodebin ! audioconvert ! vorbisenc ! oggmux ! filesink location=Ninel.ogg
[21:44] <Rawul> Basically, i'm not getting the name servers from my dhcp - not a big issue, i'll just set them manually...
[21:44] <syockit> GnomeKing: dunno if it works or not yet
[21:44] <Rawul> so i edited resolv.conf
[21:44] <syockit> GnomeKing: sorry command mistake
[21:44] <Rawul> but how do i.. erm... 'active' it?
[21:44] <syockit> GnomeKing: gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=Leningrd.mid ! decodebin ! audioconvert ! vorbisenc ! oggmux ! filesink location=Ninel.ogg
[21:44] <GnomeKing> blimey - that's complicated ;)
[21:44] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: doing it now, I wonder if I need the same version of sshfs on both machines?
[21:44] <GnomeKing> ok
[21:45] <GnomeKing> ok - that's working for playback
[21:45] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: probably not, as the remote end only needs ssh-server
[21:45] <GnomeKing> so in theory I can save it as an ogg no problem
[21:45] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: testing it now
[21:45] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: you'd only need fuse and sshfs on the connecting end
[21:45] <mustangg1> can I get a hint, please.. how do I change "XF86xx" kb shortcuts to refer to apps of _my_ choice?
[21:45] <syockit> GnomeKing: yay it plays like a charm!
[21:46] <syockit> GnomeKing: sure took long enough
[21:46] <GnomeKing> wonderful - thanks syockit :) *copies and pastes the command for safe keeping*
[21:46] <GnomeKing> well - I'm going to use that a *LOT* (creating a set of rehearsal files for my operatic group)
[21:46] <Rawul> syockit: could you help me out?
[21:47] <hlm> Rawul, ask your question
[21:47] <Rawul> sorry, heh, you just helped someone and i've jumped in -_-;
[21:47] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: Wow that worked! thanks, and now its even reporting the correct size of the drive
[21:47] <GnomeKing> Rawul, what doesn't work?
[21:47] <Rawul> Basically, i'm not getting the name servers from my dhcp - not a big issue, i'll just set them manually...
[21:47] <Rawul> so i edited resolv.conf
[21:47] <MTecknology> so... my backup server can't connect to localhost with ssh even though other servers connect to it just fine - any ideas how to make it work?
[21:47] <Rawul> but how do i.. erm... 'active' it?
[21:47] <GnomeKing> if you type nslookup and just "g" does it use the name server?
[21:47] <hlm> Rawul, it should be automatic after saving
[21:48] <javier1> hi,  I have an onboard video that does not want to disable in the bios, How can I get it to use the Agp that I have installed?
[21:48] <GnomeKing> Rawul, if not, then look at your /etc/host.conf (that can disable resolv.conf)
[21:48] <Rawul> i did 'nslookup'
[21:48] <Rawul> then >g
[21:48] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: well that's better ;-) then the "1000 gb"- free space-bug was probably arlready fixed in sshfs a while ago
[21:48] <Rawul> ah, okay
[21:48] <cotui> mac serve
[21:48] <GnomeKing> Rawul, possibly pastebin both the response from nslookup and your host.conf file
[21:48] <Rawul> apparently no servr could be reached with nslookup
[21:48] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: I'll say!
[21:48] <yoyoned1> Rawul: changes to resolve.conf are artomatic, but that tile just points you to a name server.  If you want to manually resolve hostnames to IP adress, use /etc/hosts
[21:48] <GnomeKing> and pastebin your resolv.conf then
[21:49] <letalis> javier1: are there options in the bios to disable it or no? if not it may detect the agp card automatically without a bios change and all youll need to do is move the monitor cable to the card.
[21:49] <dorian> hi
[21:49] <zzzzzabelha> hey people, how to install the ATI driver corretly?
[21:49] <Rawul> hm
[21:49] <javier1> letalis; yes it does, it just asks me which one is the main card.. but ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it
[21:49] <Rawul> nothing in host.conf or hosts
[21:50] <letalis> what kind of card is it?
[21:50] <ericvw> is anyone having trouble with ubuntu server 8.04 with a slow apt-get update?
[21:50] <yoyoned1> Rawul: I misread your post.  can you pastebin your resolve.conf
[21:50] <Rawul> my resolv.conf has one line - nameserver 194.168.4.100
[21:50] <ibuclaw> ericvw, what country do you live in and where are you getting the sources from ?
[21:51] <GnomeKing> /etc/host.conf is totally  empty? that could be your problem then... it should have "order hosts,bind"... which is the default on ubuntu - any clue why it changed? (although my host.conf says that order is only used by old versions of the C lib)
[21:51] <Rawul> oh, sorry
[21:51] <Rawul> empty of clues i should have said
[21:51] <ericvw> us.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:51] <ericvw> live in the US
[21:51] <Mjook> I installed gdesklets but I cant find it in my menu
[21:51] <GnomeKing> *grin*
[21:51] <_dbd_l12> Rawul: do the nameservers come up after you issue a "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ? If not, try "sudo dhclient" and see if that brings them up
[21:52] <Rawul> it has two lines - order hosts, bind ; multi on
[21:52] <ibuclaw> ericvw, which state?
[21:52] <ericvw> michigan
[21:52] <mortaurat> is there someone who can tell me how to delete pigdin whith synaptik package manager
[21:52] <kaimerra> Does anyone know how to setup evolution to read MIME digests properly?
[21:52] <GnomeKing> Rawul, any reason yer doing this manually rather than using networkmanager?
[21:52] <Berto> Hi - My PC is 2 years old and Ubuntu doesn't run like it used to.  Is there a new doc/app on tweaking everything?  Like getting rid of startup apps I don't need...
[21:53] <Rawul> maybe these nameservers don't exist...
[21:53] <ericvw> ibuclaw: also archive.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to work any better either
[21:54] <GnomeKing> mortaurat, dunno about synaptic, but you can do "sudo apt-get purge pidgin"
[21:54] <notwist> tip: use openDNS :)
[21:54] <zzzzzabelha> hey people, how to install the ATI driver corretly?
[21:55] <Milligan> Ubuntu 8.10. Two monitors, with Xinerama. Now and then, the mousebuttons will stop working, and I can't click anything. Really annoying. They keyboard works fine, and the system works fine .. and I can move the mouse .. I just can't click anything. Google suggested I could fix it by flipping desktops, but that was a no go. Anyone know of afix ?
[21:55] <th__> http://ugly.blerp.org/~karvonen/makeeta/mummo_kanasensa_niitylle_ajoi.jpg
[21:56] <GnomeKing> syockit, how do you know which plugins to install?
[21:56] <_dbd_l12> zzzzzabelha: http://tinyurl.com/bdyet8
[21:56] <Rawul> i  ran dhclient and i don't have networking in /init.d/
[21:57] <syockit> GnomeKing: totem installed for me. btw, timidity sounds much better!
[21:58] <Rawul> that is the single most disturbing thing i've ever seen
[21:58] <Rawul> thank you
[21:58] <syockit> GnomeKing: totem installed the gstreamer bad plugins
[21:58] <jtaji> !ops | th__
[21:58] <ibuclaw> ericvw, you could try using a mirror that is closer to home: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[21:58] <GnomeKing> ok thanks
[21:59] <ericvw> ibuclaw: thanks!
[21:59] <GnomeKing> and timidity sounds worse for me ;) I think the instrument changes have been encoded in the midi in a dodgy way... so its using the original instruments even though I've changed it
[21:59] <enovativ> i want to use gparted to re-format one of my external hard drive....
[21:59] <wemdowemd> Sorry if I missed anything you said to me, Qemu crashed and wouldn't give me my cursor back
[21:59] <zzzzzabelha> hey people, how to install the ATI driver corretly? ???
[21:59] <enovativ> but i want it to be seen not only by linux box but my windows box also
[21:59] <enovativ> i formatted first as fat32
[22:00] <belda> hi, suddenly there is no sound in alsa
[22:00] <enovativ> linux see it..but windows does not
[22:00] <enovativ> should i format it as fat16 ?
[22:00] <Scunizi> enovativ: you can format it with ext3 and then in windows you'll have to load the ext3 driver
[22:00] <Voltron> Why doesn't Ubuntu use more professional sounding names? Hardy Heron, Jaunty Jackelope, those don't sound like anything that the IT guys at work would ever be able to get approved for install corporation wide.
[22:00] <syockit> GnomeKing: i'm still looking for way to play it using fluid gm soundfont
[22:00] <ericvw> Voltron: you could just say 8.04 or 8.10, no?
[22:01] <Scunizi> Voltron: those are development names .. after they are released they are know as their number
[22:01] <Lasivian> every time I reboot I have to recompile my madwifi driver, any idea why?
[22:01] <enovativ> Scunizi: thanks
[22:01] <enovativ> where can i get ext3 driver
[22:01] <ikonia> jtaji: what's the problem ?
[22:01] <belda> need someone who understands sound configuration in ubuntu
[22:01] <Scunizi> enovativ: sure.. weird that windows couldn't see the fat32 format.. should have..
[22:01] <Voltron> When you click on "About Ubuntu" though, you get this: Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 9.04
[22:01] <Voltron>                 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.
[22:01] <Voltron> 				
[22:01] <_dbd_l12> enovativ: no - format it as ext2 and us this: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[22:01] <GnomeKing> syockit, well if I set up fluidsynth with the gm sound font, and play back through rosegarden that works perfectly  (fluidsynth -m alsa_seq /usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2)
[22:01] <Voltron> weird, it wasn't supposed to be on multiple lines...
[22:02] <ikonia> jtaji: what's the problem ?
[22:02] <GnomeKing> syockit, but I couldn't get that to play to a file! :)
[22:02] <jj_galvez> _dbd_l12: thanks again for hte help that worked like a charm
[22:02] <_dbd_l12> jj_galvez: np
[22:03] <cotui> gnomero :  no me deja borrar la particion   con el gparted   esta en sistema de archivo linux-swap ?
[22:03] <ubuntu_> can you run wine on usb xubununtu?
[22:03] <enovativ> _dbd_l12: can you give me that link again
[22:03] <Lasivian> what is the latest kernel for 8.10?
[22:03] <_dbd_l12> enovativ: http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[22:03] <ikonia> jtaji why did you call th eops ?
[22:03] <ikonia> the ops
[22:03] <enovativ> _dbd_l12: thanks
[22:03] <Voltron> Has anyone ever brought up using JUST the version numbers for identification? Or having different versions like home, pro, enterprise, etc?
[22:03] <syockit> GnomeKing: I currently have it playing with this: fluidsynth Leningrd.mid load /usr/share/sounds/sf2/FluidR3_GM.sf2
[22:04] <ikonia> Voltron: the verions are just numbers, the nicknames are just fun
[22:04] <GnomeKing> syockit, that isn't respecting the instrumnets I've set up :/
[22:04] <enovativ> _dbd_l12: i am curious..why is it that when the external drive is fresh out the box. both the linux and windows boxes can see it ?
[22:05] <ikonia> enovativ: why wouldn't they be able to ?
[22:05] <enovativ> ikonia: huh ?
[22:05] <Lasivian> why would I lose my wifi driver after rebooting?
[22:05] <Berto> My number pad works in the console, but not in gnome.  any ideas on that?  I've configured the right keyboard
[22:05] <Berto> this also used to not happen
[22:05] <Lasivian> it works fine after I rebuild it, but if I reboot it looses it
[22:05] <javier> hello i've install an agp video card.. after installing the nividia drivers.. here is what appears... You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[22:06] <GnomeKing> syockit, playing it like that is the "broken" approach, it uses the right instruments played through gstreamer.  I've got an ogg going through gstreamer now, so that's good enough for me :)
[22:06] <enovativ> ikonia: what i am trying to figure out is when you first use the external drive...both the linux box, and the windows box both can see the drive
[22:06] <syockit> GnomeKing: maybe it has different mappings? anyways, gstreamer's wildmidi and timidity each use their own patch files
[22:06] <enovativ> but not that i use gparted to reformat the drive
[22:06] <GnomeKing> syockit, just to see what I mean, do you want the midi/ogg/mp3?
[22:06] <_dbd_l12> enovativ: hard to answer, if it's a recent drive it's probably formatted ntfs (or fat32). Is this an usb-drive, nas-drive, etc... ?
[22:06] <enovativ> _dbd_l12: usb drive
[22:06] <syockit> GnomeKing: great gadzooks, it sounds worse with the soundfont!!
[22:06] <enovativ> _dbd_l12: 250 gb
[22:06] <GnomeKing> lolol
[22:06] <syockit> GnomeKing: please do!
[22:07] <syockit> GnomeKing: uh, I mean yes
[22:07] <GnomeKing> 2 secs - uploading
[22:07] <_dbd_l12> enovativ: well if you didn't change the formatting and windows can't read it but linux can --> that's odd. Probably some windows driver issue then.
[22:07] <jtaji> ikonia: sorry for delay, he/she pasted a nasty link
[22:07] <enovativ> _dbd_l12:probably so....that is why i hate windows i swear
[22:08] <gump> #kukilinux
[22:08] <syockit> GnomeKing: ah if only I remember howto dcc... I forgot how to use them
[22:08] <ikonia> jtaji: I just saw it, thank you
[22:08] <enovativ> does any think that the LPI certification is a good certification to have ?
[22:08] <ikonia> gump: ?
[22:08] <ikonia> enovativ: nope, and it's offtopic
[22:08] <GnomeKing> syockit, its ok - I'm putting it on my website ;)
[22:09] <GnomeKing> syockit, not even sure if I can dcc from behind my firewall...
[22:09] <gump> ikonia: sorry lagy computer tried to join a channel
[22:09] <InDaLivingRoom> whats the name of the ati version of nvidia-settings?
[22:09] <ikonia> gump: no problem
[22:09] <enovativ> ikonia: sorry
[22:09] <ikonia> enovativ: no problem
[22:09] <Lasivian> ok, ifconfig and route show I have no gateway
[22:10] <Dada_> Hi there. I just installed a base system while my laptop was not hooked up to the network. How do I make the system recognise and configure the network through DHCP in command line?
[22:11] <skel> Dada_: manually, dhclient  or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:11] <Cpudan80> Dada_: sudo dhclient
[22:11] <Dada_> Like, right now I only have loopback as interface, the interface I want is a cardbus
[22:11] <Dada_> thanks, I'll try this
[22:11] <[VGN]Starlock> whats the command for checking the harddrive for errors ?
[22:11] <GnomeKing> [VGN]Starlock, fsck
[22:11] <[VGN]Starlock> thanks
[22:12] <Scunizi> How do I unlock a pdf for printing that was made on a win machine?
[22:12] <billybigrigger> Dada_, would have been a smart idea to connect the cardbus at install, i always have all of my periphs connected at install, saves hassle of configuring it later
[22:12] <enovativ> _dbd_l12: now i see something odd. i am using gparted, and it sees the external drive but it will not let me format the drive as NTFS, only ext2, ext3, fat16, or fat32
[22:12] <GnomeKing> Scunizi, can't evince just print it?
[22:12] <Lasivian> how do I make a network connect drop it's IP info and get new info?
[22:12] <enovativ> the NTFS option is grayed out
[22:12] <Scunizi> GnomeKing: nope.. the option is grayed out
[22:12] <GnomeKing> wow - I didn't think evince honoured that!
[22:12] <Scunizi> GnomeKing: me either
[22:13] <InDaLivingRoom> is ther any ati control center?
[22:14] <GnomeKing> Scunizi, never used it, but apparently there is a pdfcrack program to get the password to allow you to print it?
[22:14] <Lasivian> i'm not getting any dns info
[22:14] <Scunizi> GnomeKing: in the repos?
[22:14] <XThief> hello, I have a server outside my network, anyone knows how i can mount a drive of it on windows?
[22:14] <GnomeKing> Scunizi, actually, no idea ;)
[22:15] <GnomeKing> I just googled it
[22:15] <MCCPIcky> okay down the road of nvidia install once again, have just tried the hardware driver install that ubuntu provides...result: black screen
[22:15] <Scunizi> GnomeKing: I'll look. thanks.. you got more out of google than I did :)
[22:15] <skel> XThief: smbmount assuming you're not blocked my any firewalls
[22:15] <InDaLivingRoom> ha! fglrx-control it is!
[22:16] <Scunizi> GnomeKing: it is in the repos!  :=)) .. If I'm lucky there won't be a large learning curve.
[22:16] <enovativ> how can i find out if my samba is running ?
[22:16] <XThief> skel smbmount is a windows program?
[22:16] <enovativ> i am haivng problems connecting to my window shares
[22:16] <GnomeKing> syockit, sorry - first attempt at upload failed (its 12mb so its taking a while) - trying sftp now ;)
[22:16] <skel> XThief: no, I'm assuming that you want to mount a windows drive remotely from an ubuntu system
[22:17] <G-Blunted> enovativ, how is anyone going to help you when you say it like that?
[22:17] <skel> XThief: so you'd run smbmount from ubuntu across the network to the share point on windows
[22:17] <G-Blunted> !justask
[22:17] <ilaiho> missä paketissa se kde:n control center on intrepidissä
[22:17] <GnomeKing> enovativ, samba does not need to be running to connect to a share, only to publish one from linux.  Use smbclient to connect to a remote share
[22:17] <enovativ> G-Blunted: thanks
[22:18] <ilaiho> oops
[22:18] <Myrtti> tsktsk ;-)
[22:18] <Orchid`> hello, im currently experiencing OS failure ofmy Hardy Heron LTS system, and i am trying to recover data fro the hard-drive I.E. move it form one to the other. i have attempted to do it while on the drive, and logge din as administrator bu wheneve ri open even a simple file window, it crashes. can someone please assist me in this effort?
[22:19] <skel> Orchid`: go download sysresccd.org iso from another system and burn it, boot off it and mount whatever drives you need and copy data
[22:19] <Lasivian> I need some troubleshooting help, my ethernet is giving me no DNS info and I do not know why
[22:19] <Dada_> billybigrigger: I decided to try installing without my network attached because the installer kept continuously failing during the apt setup at around 70%
[22:19] <skel> Orchid`: it's also got photorec program to recover data from a already formatted system (not fool proof)
[22:19] <Dada_> Thankfully everything works now, and I'm updating
[22:19] <KenBW22> i'm trying to change the actions of buttons on my wii remote when controlling ubuntu. Where could i find a list of codes for keys?
[22:19] <enovativ> GnomeKing: i am using : "smb://computername/c$/"
[22:19] <skel> Dada_: good to hear :)
[22:20] <enovativ> and i get an error that says : "Failed to mount Windows share"
[22:20] <Dada_> yes :)
[22:20] <skel> enovativ: can you do smbclient -U <username> //server/sharename ?
[22:20] <omshanti> hi
[22:20] <omshanti> I have a mic
[22:20] <GnomeKing> enovativ, that's never worked for me ;) smbclient does though
[22:20] <Lasivian> The ethernet used to work fine and then suddenly it can;t resolve anything, yet ifconfig looks fine to my newbie eyes
[22:20] <omshanti> how do i make it work in ubuntu?
[22:20] <Orchid`> sk well good for me this dualboot system will work. mind if I bothe ryou later for more in-depth help?
[22:20] <Orchid`> skel:  well good for me this dualboot system will work. mind if I bothe ryou later for more in-depth help?
[22:21] <skel> Orchid`: I'll be leaving work in a bit but you can email me if you like I'll msg you
[22:21] <Orchid`> skel:  thank you!
[22:21] <skel> Orchid`: np
[22:21] <Scunizi> GnomeKing: it found the password as '' or <nul>.. so I did it another way.. I used imagemagick's convert to "convert <inputfile.pdf> <outputfile.pdf>"  worked like a champ.. unforetunately convert doesn't work well from pdf to an image format like tiff or gif etc..
[22:21] <GnomeKing> Lasivian, does "nslookup google.co.uk" work?
[22:21] <Dada_> Another question. I'm setting up a win98/ubuntu dual setup on an old computer, but I need to install Ubuntu first because my Win98 disk is apparently not able to boot. When I install Win98 after installing Ubuntu, that will mess up the MBR, right?
[22:21] <GnomeKing> lol nice Scunizi ... and for pdf to png I'd use the gimp ;)
[22:22] <Lasivian> ping google.com
[22:22] <Lasivian> GnomeKing: Server can;t find google.co.uk refused
[22:23] <Cronanius1> hi guys, I was wondering if I could get the wiki article (or just straight up info) on how to install the latest version of Ubuntu on a computer *that has no internet*.
[22:23] <dsl_>    xc
[22:23] <skel> Lasivian: do you have anything defined in /etc/resolv.conf?
[22:23] <Lasivian> GnomeKing: it shows server and address above that as loopback
[22:23] <Lasivian> skel: blank
[22:23] <node357> Cronanius1, I have installed Ubuntu without 'net, works fine
[22:23] <skel> Lasivian: that'd be why
[22:23] <GnomeKing> syockit, finally uploaded - gnomes.org.uk/Pirates14.tar.gz
[22:23] <skel> Lasivian: sounds like whatever is serving your dhcp isn't giving you a lease and giving you the dns servers
[22:23] <Lasivian> "#Generated by networkmanager"
[22:24] <node357> Cronanius1, actually because of my location having no net works better as I don't get stuck at "scanning the mirror"
[22:24] <billybigrigger> Dada_, im pretty sure Windows over Ubuntu will bork things pretty good, ive never been in that situation before, its always Ubuntu over Windows
[22:24] <skel> Lasivian: run sudo dhclient
[22:24] <Lasivian> skel: the wireless gets that data, on the same network
[22:24] <enovativ> GnomeKing: smbclient is not working
[22:24] <skel> Lasivian: then it could be a netmask config issue
[22:24] <Cronanius1> node357: I personally don't really know, I use Arch, but my friend is trying to install from CD, and he says that it's trying to make him install via FTP.
[22:24] <skel> Lasivian: for that particular interface
[22:24] <enovativ> (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[22:24] <Dada_> billybigrigger: yeah, unfortunately I didn't want to go through the trouble of finding another system to make a boot floppy on
[22:24] <GnomeKing> syockit, the ogg file is what it *should* sound ilke, the mp3 is what fluidsynth makes it sound like
[22:24] <mirkocosta> ciao
[22:25] <den_kiev> hi
[22:25] <GnomeKing> syockit, I know they are very similar, but as I said, I'm setting up rehearsal files so I've been messing with the instruments to make a solo line stand out more
[22:25] <skel> enovativ: sounds like the server you're trying to connect to isn't resolving. try using IP
[22:25] <Cronanius1> node357: I was just wondering if you had used an alternate disk image or some such.
[22:25] <Dada_> billybigrigger: do you think I could fix the MBR to use Grub again by using "rescue a broken installation" from the installation CD?
[22:25] <Lasivian> skel: the numbers look right for my network
[22:25] <enovativ> skel: i tried ip also no luck
[22:25] <GnomeKing> enovativ, try with an -I as well with the IP as skel said
[22:25] <skel> Lasivian: does the wired interface get a lease?
[22:25] <GnomeKing> enovativ, you need -I <ip> //server/share
[22:26] <enovativ> GnomeKing: ok
[22:26] <KenBW22> where can i find a list of ubuntu keybindings?
[22:26] <newmember> is there a ftpfs package for ubuntu?
[22:26] <Lasivian> "bound to 10.234.0.24 -- renewal in 531150 seconds"
[22:26] <skel> newmember: you can search by doing apt-cache search ftpfs
[22:26] <billybigrigger> Dada_, possible, im not giving an answer because i do not know %100
[22:26] <Lasivian> google is pingable
[22:26] <Lasivian> skel: so that command forced a new dhcp address?
[22:26] <skel> newmember: you may have to modify the repositories you're searching by uncommenting what you want in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:27] <skel> Lasivian: it should try, yes
[22:27] <billybigrigger> Dada_, haha im just installing 9.04 on my desktop machine here and it sits there Configuring APT "scanning the mirror" @ %82
[22:27] <skel> Lasivian: did you get a new IP?
[22:27] <Lasivian> skel: i'll add it to my toolbox, many thanks
[22:27] <Lasivian> skel: it's working now, yes
[22:27] <skel> Lasivian: ok good to hear :)
[22:27] <billybigrigger> Dada_, seems the mirror's down or something, just have to unplug your ethernet cable for the install to continue though
[22:27] <newmember> skel: doh, I did apt-get install ftpfs.  I guess its not inthe cache either, I'll try the other repos
[22:28] <Dada_> billybigrigger: when I was installing Ubuntu (using the alternative installer) it would show the red screen and refuse to go any further :/
[22:28] <Dada_> Kind of silly it's got no way to handle it if a mirror is down
[22:28] <billybigrigger> Dada_, yes, they should implement something there
[22:29] <Leissi> uh
[22:29] <Leissi> hello?
[22:29] <billybigrigger> hello
[22:29] <bittin> hi
[22:30] <Leissi> oh hey it actually works
[22:30] <yojimbo-san> My XFCE desktop won't login; pauses at "starting the desktop manager". There are 50 gnome-power-manager, 52 update-notifier and 237 jockey-gtk processes running!! killing them doesn't seem to help, reboots don't help, deleting ~/.gnome* didn't help ... what can I do next??
[22:30] <MiMiSoSo> hello... how do i find out which linux kernel i have?
[22:30] <yojimbo-san> MiMiSoSo: uname -a
[22:30] <MiMiSoSo> i need this to run virtual box
[22:30] <rapidsecretions> how do I put the output of a command into a variable (something like: file "$1"|grep ": directory" > $ISDIR)
[22:31] <Leissi> so um
[22:31] <syockit> GnomeKing: going to make breakfast brb
[22:31] <yojimbo-san> rapidsecretions: VER=$(command)
[22:31] <MiMiSoSo> thnks yojimbo-san... great movie btw ;)
[22:31] <Leissi> I installed ubuntu for the first time today and I got a couple of question
[22:31] <yojimbo-san> MiMiSoSo: hai!
[22:31] <Myrtti> yojimbo-san: have you asked in #xubuntu?
[22:31] <rapidsecretions> yojimbo-sa: What does the VER do?
[22:31] <yojimbo-san> Myrtti: nope, I guess I could try them ... and probably mythbuntu too :-)
[22:32] <Leissi> where do I install fonts to be used? What software can I use to open .rar files in ubuntu? What audio players can I use since foobar2000 doesn't have linux support?
[22:32] <salsaman> hi, the kernel headers seem broken in ubuntu intrepid
[22:32] <rapidsecretions> yojimbo-san: What does the VER do?
[22:32] <salsaman> e.g.
[22:32] <yojimbo-san> rapidsecretions: sorry, I mistyped,meant "VAR" i.e. just  variable. You might use ISDIR=$( ... )
[22:32] <XThief> skel sorry, i was on the phone
[22:32] <salsaman> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic/include/linux/prefetch.h:14:27: error: asm/processor.h: No such file or directory
[22:32] <rapidsecretions> yojimbo-san: okay, thanks
[22:32] <XThief> skel i want to mount a linux drive in windows
[22:33] <salsaman> there is no asm directory in includes
[22:33] <_VIM_> !rar | Leissi
[22:33] <yojimbo-san> rapidsecretions: however, "find . -type d" might find directories for you better
[22:33] <salsaman> there is like asm-86
[22:33] <salsaman> i tried symlinking this, but it gave further errors
[22:34] <salsaman> so my question is, is there a way to fix the kernel headers in ubuntu ?
[22:34] <_dbd_l12> Leissi: ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts run fc-cache afterwards
[22:34] <salsaman> otherwise it is not possible to compile drivers from source
[22:34] <Leissi> whoa whoa whoa hold it
[22:34] <Elive_user77_en> hi all
[22:34] <Leissi> I'm an ubuntu virgin
[22:35] <Elive_user77_en> lol
[22:35] <salsaman> or is it just a matter of, you cant compile new drivers in ubuntu, tough shit
[22:35] <Geek`N`Proud> salsaman, I have no issues compiling drivers using the headers
[22:36] <Geek`N`Proud> heck.. even VMWare does it flawlesslu
[22:36] <salsaman> geek: probably your drivers dont require asm then
[22:36] <_dbd_l12> salsaman: have you done sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[22:36] <Geek`N`Proud> flawlessly
[22:36] <Elive_user77_en> be nice to new people were all on the same team aint we?lol
[22:36] <salsaman> _dbd_ yes
[22:36] <salsaman> i have the kernel-source virtual package
[22:36] <enovativ> GnomeKing: i used smbclient -I username //ipaddress/c$$
[22:36] <enovativ> nothing hapened
[22:36] <salsaman> but did yu read what i said ?
[22:37] <salsaman> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic/include/linux/prefetch.h:14:27: error: asm/processor.h: No such file or directory
[22:37] <salsaman> there is no godamn /asm directory !
[22:37] <sint> hey, i've reinstalled ubuntu 8.10 on my machine and run one of the same problems, i had before. my qt4 apps are starting fullscreen without any borders. i can't even see gnome panels. nothing! just the qt4 app in fullscreen. is this a known problem?
[22:37] <_dbd_l12> Leissi: ~ is your homedirectory, make a .fonts directory there, drop the fonts in this directory and type "fc-cache" in a terminal afterwards
[22:37] <GnomeKing> enovativ, no... -U <user> -I <ip> //<name>/c$
[22:37] <GnomeKing> or -u <user> not sure....
[22:37] <GnomeKing> its -U
[22:38] <salsaman> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic/include/linux/prefetch.h:15:23: error: asm/cache.h: No such file or directory
[22:38] <salsaman> I
[22:39] <Geek`N`Proud> salsaman, there is? :|
[22:39] <emo_ninja> does anyone have an ubuntu hardy backport for dk-filter?
[22:39] <rapidsecretions> yojimbo-san: Well I'm trying to check if something is a directory...Is there a way to use an option for if sort of like -e but to check if something is a directory
[22:39] <salsaman> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-11-generic/include/linux/list.h:7:24: error: asm/system.h: No such file or directory
[22:39] <spirited> hello does anyone know of any players like the TVU player except for Linux?
[22:39] <Geek`N`Proud> salsaman, maybe you should blame the kernel developers, not Ubuntu
[22:39] <yojimbo-san> rapidsecretions: yah, the bash tests will do it for you .. let me check the manpage
[22:40] <Geek`N`Proud> they've changed the layout several times over the 2.6.x releases
[22:40] <salsaman> maybe
[22:40] <_VIM_> !TV | spirited
[22:40] <Geek`N`Proud> salsaman, also is it not possible to cheat and use /usr/include?
[22:40] <Geek`N`Proud> /usr/include has an asm
[22:40] <alex_> bah
[22:41] <salsaman> hmmm
[22:41] <alex_> i type sh netbeansinstaller.sh or whatever it is, it says: running wizard. Then it does nothing and prompts me for another command in xterm
[22:41] <alex_> what is going on?
[22:41] <yojimbo-san> if [ -d "$name" ]; then printf "it is a directoro\n"; fi
[22:41] <salsaman> yeah i wonder why it is not finding that
[22:41] <yojimbo-san> rapidsecretions: if [ -d "$name" ] then printf "it is a directory\n"; fi
[22:41] <spirited> thanks!
[22:42] <Geek`N`Proud> salsaman, no cache.h or kernel stuff in there
[22:42] <Geek`N`Proud> my bad
[22:42] <Geek`N`Proud> it's for userland only
[22:42] <rapidsecretions> yojimbo-san: okay, so pretty much the same as the exist check but with a -d ...thanks!
[22:42] <salsaman> geek: right
[22:42] <enovativ> GnomeKing: i am using irssi is there a way to scroll up to read something that was mentioned earlier
[22:43] <Leissi> so
[22:43] <GnomeKing> enovativ, shift+pg up
[22:43] <Leissi> I did sudo apt-get install 7zip, but now I can't find it anywhere :(
[22:43] <_VIM_> evilGUI: page up/down works for me
[22:43] <jatt> hi in older versions of gnome there was a menu from which I could navigate through the filesystem
[22:43] <enovativ> GnomeKing: thanks
[22:43] <jatt> is there a package in latest ubuntu versions?
[22:43] <_VIM_> oops sorry evilGUI i meant that for enovativ
[22:43] <yojimbo-san> rapidsecretions: yep ... 'man test' for more info
[22:43] <jatt> that allows me to navigate through the filesystem using a menu?
[22:43] <jatt> (not nautilus)
[22:44] <rapidsecretions> yojimbo-san: oops I was doing man if :-p
[22:44] <Rocking-W> I booted hardy heron this morning and have lost my sound no clue as what to do
[22:44] <yojimbo-san> rapidsecretions: it itakes a while to get used to all the different commands that *look* like they're just options :-)
[22:45] <Vande> I made a fat32 partition for  storage between win and ubuntu but never installed win and now i want to delete that partition but it has a boot flag so how can i remove it without screwing up booting my comp
[22:45] <yojimbo-san> test is a great one, with an alias of '[' :-)
[22:45] <umut> looking for a "image backup" solution. any suggestions?
[22:46] <GnomeKing> umut, dd ;)
[22:46] <_VIM_> umut: try Clonezilla
[22:46] <yojimbo-san> umut: apparently there's a good one called "fog" somewhere
[22:46] <sandeep> ghost is an image duplicator
[22:46] <kane77> how can I make  aptitude to ignore certain version of program?
[22:46] <Rocking-W> will upgrading to 8.10 solve my nosound problem?
[22:46] <GnomeKing> Rocking-W, it did for me
[22:46] <Rocking-W> ok
[22:47] <Rocking-W> is 8.10 a 64 bit version only?
[22:47] <Vande> no ideas for me?
[22:47] <GnomeKing> Rocking-W, nope - 32 bit too
[22:47] <umut> ok, I'll check clonezilla and fog. thanks
[22:47] <Rocking-W> ok
[22:47] <yojimbo-san> umut: http://www.fogproject.org/
[22:47] <Rocking-W> thanks
[22:47] <GnomeKing> Vande, it should "just work" - remove the boot flag first and confirm its not broken
[22:47] <yojimbo-san> there's a video showing a comparison of fog and clonezilla on that page
[22:48] <GnomeKing> Vande, check where grub is installed to - if its on that partition, re-install it to the partition you want to keep
[22:48] <Leissi> I can't move the font file into the fonts folder, it says access denied
[22:48] <binarymutant> how can I measure bandwidth from an apache access.log?
[22:48] <GnomeKing> Leissi, do it with sudo then - or put it in ~/.fonts
[22:48] <Leissi> permission, actually
[22:48] <Leissi> er
[22:48] <Leissi> I didn't understand
[22:48] <_VIM_> Leissi: use gksudo nautilus to move them
[22:48] <Leissi> I'm a linux virgin
[22:49] <yojimbo-san> binarymutant: you can see how many bytes were sent, and what time they were sent ... but that's not quite the same
[22:50] <Vande> GnomeKing: It apears to be installed on my linux partition but the fat partition is marked as boot partition
[22:50] <quibbler> Leissi: look for a hidden directory in yiur home .fonts  if it is not there make it ...put the ttf file in that directory
[22:50] <Leissi> thank you _VIM_
[22:50] <jj_galvez> hmm linux virgin, I've never been that intimate with my computer :)
[22:50] <_VIM_> Leissi: np
[22:50] <binarymutant> yojimbo-san, how can I tell? I'll give you a line from my access.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/119425/ is it the 2653 number?
[22:51] <smast> does anyone know a good program to play dvd's with 8.10, cant find one that will allow me to use dvd menu...
[22:51] <ortsvorsteher> smast: try vlc
[22:51] <_dbd_l12> binarymutant: cat /var/log/httpd/access_log | awk ‘{ SUM += $5} END { print SUM/1024/1024 }’             -- credit: http://rackerhacker.com/2007/01/15/sum-apache-bandwidth-from-logs/
[22:51] <ortsvorsteher> !vlc | smast
[22:51] <yojimbo-san> binarymutant: you can control the precise contents of the access logs. In you case, yes, it's the 2653 following the 200.
[22:52] <yojimbo-san> "200" means "data successfully returned"
[22:52] <smast> thanks!
[22:52] <ortsvorsteher> you're welcome
[22:52] <binarymutant> yojimbo-san, thank you :)
[22:52] <Minipluto> greetings ;)
[22:52] <binarymutant> _dbd_l12, I got "invalid char '�' in expression"
[22:53] <^Cheeky> hello can anyone please give me some insight to why i dont have any sound anymore .. i used to but not anymore . i stopped and started alsa-utils .
[22:53] <_dbd_l12> binarymutant: cat /var/log/httpd/access_log | awk '{ SUM += $5} END { print SUM/1024/1024 }'
[22:53] <smast> did compizconfig replace beryl program?
[22:53] <binarymutant> _dbd_l12, n/m I got it
[22:53] <_dbd_l12> binarymutant: wrong type of '
[22:53] <binarymutant> _dbd_l12, thank you
[22:53] <d4rkg1rl> ^cheeky, have you tried restarting the X server?
[22:54] <d4rkg1rl> ctrl alt backspace
[22:54] <_VIM_> smast: compiz  and beryl merged to form compiz-fusion awhile back
[22:54] <^Cheeky> d4rkg1rl, umm not really , i have some downloads .. and i wanna know how to fix this problem if i encounter it again .. dont wanna keep rebooting or restarting X
[22:55] <Gnea> !sound | ^Cheeky
[22:55] <d4rkg1rl> has this been happening repeatedly?
[22:55] <^Cheeky> d4rkg1rl, yes, only way i sorted it out was to restart
[22:55] <^Cheeky> maybe conflicts of codecs ..
[22:56] <d4rkg1rl> hmm, what player are you using? are you using gnome?
[22:56] <ortsvorsteher> !vlc | d4rkg1rl
[22:56] <^Cheeky> d4rkg1rl, vlc, totem , rhythmbox ...
[22:56] <^Cheeky> d4rkg1rl, in gnome
[22:57] <Teejay__> anybody use yahoo messenger with a program different than kopete or pidgin?
[22:57] <^Cheeky> d4rkg1rl, ubuntu 8.10
[22:58] <Leissi> is there a way to disable that terribly loud pc-speaker beep when I do something wrong on my keyboard? :P
[22:58] <TnEt1> aMsn
[22:58] <d4rkg1rl> have you tried googling your mobo/sound card for any driver cocnflicts?
[22:58] <yojimbo-san> Leissi: open the case and unplug the speaker :-)
[22:58] <Leissi> :D
[22:58] <Teejay__> ty TnEt1
[22:58] <d4rkg1rl> *giggle* @ yojimbo-san
[22:58] <TnEt1> but I mainly use Pidgin
[22:58] <Gnea> Leissi: xset b off
[22:59] <niyado> i have a problem with my update manager, when i click for chek this is the error messege that i receive http://paste.ubuntu.com/119428/   anny solution?
[22:59] <yojimbo-san> niyado: looks like you have some DNS issues
[22:59] <^Cheeky> d4rkg1rl, umm no, but this always was an issue with me and ubuntu. i just assembled a new machine. and the sound worked
[22:59] <niyado> humm... so what i have to do?
[22:59] <yojimbo-san> niyado: either that, or the ubuntustudio.org has the problem
[23:00] <niyado> i just install the ubuntustudio theme
[23:00] <d4rkg1rl> hey ^cheeky I have to run, I would recommend looking for bugs with the drivers, possibly considering reinstalling ALSA through the package manager
[23:00] <d4rkg1rl> hit me up @ succubiinthenite on AIM if you have problems later
[23:00] <niyado> and i have to do the update... i dont update from the first time, so i dont have anny update done in my ubuntu.
[23:00] <yojimbo-san> niyado: I think it's their peoblem; I can't get 'archive.ubuntustudio.org' to resolve from here
[23:00] <Oli``> how do I change the nice level of a running app from the command line?
[23:01] <looter> anyone want to  try and help me install my Canon PIXMA iP1700 on  Ibex?  Been sitting here almost all day trying out various suggestions on the web with no luck.  The closest i've come is getting the printer installed but when I try to print to it it sends the job, the job ques and the lights on the printer blink and then nothign.  Anyone have ANY SUGGESTIONS what so ever?  please I'm desperate here
[23:01] <yojimbo-san> niyado: ask on @ubuntustudio
[23:01] <yojimbo-san> I mean #ubuntustudio
[23:01] <niyado> i dont have ubuntu studio, i have the main ubuntu, i just donwload the theme, nothing more
[23:02] <yojimbo-san> Oli``: I think 'renice' might help
[23:02] <Chaorain> I was looking at this http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ is it possible to upgrade from a frugal install (under features) to a full install? http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Frugal_Install
[23:02] <Leissi> is it possible to create a shortcut on desktop that would perform sudogk nautilus?
[23:02] <Oli``> yojimbo-san: ta
[23:02] <_VIM_> gksudo you mean
[23:02] <Leissi> same difference :P
[23:02] <yojimbo-san> niyado: well, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment-out the ubuntustudio lines, then re-run 'apt-get update;
[23:03] <niyado> okis
[23:03] <niyado> i dont remember what is the command to open that list, can u help me?
[23:03] <amgarching> ignore test irc
[23:03] <looter> niyado:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:04] <niyado> thx
[23:04] <looter> or vi or whatever  text editor you use
[23:04] <Chaorain> Leissi, should be just make a short cut to an existing program right click it >properties then change the command line
[23:04] <_dbd_l12> niyado, yojimbo-san: this suggests the ubuntustudio packages are now in the std ubuntu repos, so if this is correct this are just invalid sources.list entries http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com/msg00372.html
[23:05] <niyado> amm theres another way to open it in a text editor, i dont know how to write and save directly in the terminal
[23:05] <Minipluto> Anyone here, who ownes a Lenovo 3000 N200?
[23:05] <jj_galvez> Leissi: sure, right click on your desktop, select create launcher and put what you want in the command window
[23:06] <Dada_> Minipluto: I'm guessing you...
[23:06] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | Minipluto
[23:07] <Gnea> !laptop | Minipluto
[23:07] <_VIM_> niyado: try gkgudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   I can't believe im recommending gedit *hides his nick*
[23:07] <_dbd_l12> niyado: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:07] <DERPDADERP> test
[23:07] <_VIM_> fail
[23:07] <DERPDADERP> testing 1 2
[23:07] <_dbd_l12> fail
[23:07] <Vande> 1 2
[23:08] <DERPDADERP> if you see this, type nothing
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Dont poke the bear...
[23:08] <ortsvorsteher> nothing
[23:08] <niyado> :( anybody in the other channells answer me with the problem of this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/119428/ can someone help me here?
[23:08] <DERPDADERP> very well
[23:08] <DERPDADERP> it works
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> niyado We need a description of your problem
[23:09] <macondo> When I plug an external hdd, the volumes are mounted with root permissions and I'm unable to use them. How can I change this?
[23:09] <Pantung> hey i have a problem need to run thunar and ktorrent on a ubuntu whitout gui
[23:10] <_VIM_> both of those apps are GUI
[23:10] <Pantung> y
[23:10] <myownserver> Hey, is there a way to put a limit on doing data transfers from one drive to another?
[23:10] <_dbd_l12> niyado: well, the ubuntustudio repositories don't exist anymore, the packages are now in the standard ubuntu repositories. So edit sources.list (gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list) and add a comment (#) before each line which contains 'ubuntustudio' - or delete them). Afterwards, do "sudo apt-get update"
[23:10] <_VIM_> they just are
[23:10] <Pantung> y i know
[23:10] <Pantung> :)
[23:10] <Brandon_> Hi, I was curious to see if I could access the windows file system under a wubi installation of ubuntu...is it possible?
[23:10] <Pantung> but thats why i need a light gui :)
[23:11] <_VIM_> Pantung: try xubuntu or fluxbox maybe
[23:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi
[23:11] <myownserver> Hey, is there a way to put a transfer rate limit when doing data transfers from one drive to another?
[23:11] <_VIM_> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop Pantung
[23:11] <Pantung> okay 2 sec
[23:11] <Minipluto> ubottu: none of these sites could help me to solve the problem, but maybe i havn't searched with the right words because i'm not a native english speaker. My Fn-F7 key for Display-Output-Toggle doesn't generate a Keycode or an ACPI event. I followed the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch
[23:11] <DERPDADERP> join test
[23:12] <Pantung> is that light _VIM_
[23:12] <Pantung> ?
[23:12] <_VIM_> DERPDADERP: I wouldnt test things in here
[23:12] <_VIM_> yes Pantung
[23:12] <Pantung> okay i'll try 2 sec
[23:12] <macondo> When I plug an external hdd, the volumes are mounted with root permissions and I'm unable to use them. How can I change this?
[23:12] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: fluxbox
[23:12] <macondo> Is chown enough?
[23:12] <_VIM_> Pantung: fluxbox is lighter, but harder to use
[23:12] <Brandon_> again, is there any way to view the windows file system when running ubuntu from a wubi install
[23:12] <Pantung> no fluxbox is not good enough
[23:12] <redvamp128> Pantung:  the only one I fould that is lighter than that one is LXDE (more stable than the fluxbox)
[23:12] <Pantung> its for my m8 he never used flux
[23:12] <_VIM_> lxde is nice too
[23:13] <Pantung> i just need ktorrent and thunar he's a windows user
[23:13] <_dbd_l12> DSL still uses fluxbox right ? never tried lxde
[23:13] <Brandon_> ...so much for community customer support
[23:13] <redvamp128> Pantung:  This one uses PCman for the file manger though but you can add Thunar- LXDE - Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment for Ubuntu -- Ubuntu Geek <http://www.ubuntugeek.com/lxde-lightweight-x11-desktop-environment-for-ubuntu.html>
[23:14] <bdubnc> Hey guys, I tried to get some help in the hylafax channel but I didn't get anything at all.  I will be getting a mainpine IQ express 8 port card for a fax server that I am building tomorrow.  I am wondering is there a way to send all outgoing faxes through a particular com port on the card?
[23:14] <_VIM_> icewm is nice too a bit more easier to use than fluxbox
[23:14] <bdubnc> I know this is not an Ubuntu question, but like I said I didn't get any answer in the hylafax channel
[23:14] <redvamp128> Pantung:  I am sure ktorennt has a no gui but not sure thunar does
[23:14] <Pantung> ktorrent has gui
[23:14] <Pantung> and thunar to
[23:15] <Pantung> bot have gui
[23:15] <Pantung> both*
[23:15] <Pantung> when i want to start i just write xubuntu-destop right?
[23:15] <Leissi> how do I disable the password inquiry from happening every time I use sudo?
[23:15] <Pantung> destop*
[23:15] <_VIM_> nope
[23:15] <_VIM_> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:15] <redvamp128> Pantung:  www.lxde.org for more info and the link above shows you how to add the launchpad repo to get LXDE -- I have it installed and it is much faster than XFCE
[23:15] <Brandon_> How does one access the windows file system when running Ubuntu from a Wubi install?
[23:16] <Brandon_> as in files from windows.
[23:16] <_VIM_> pwned by FloodBot2
[23:16] <niyado> _dbd_l12: thx a lot budy, u are the best, no more error messeges :D
[23:16] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: you log out (or restart your x-server with ctrl-alt-backspace) and then choose "xfce" in you session menu in gdm (if you're using a semi-standard ubuntu setup)
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel > NikolaBelgrade
[23:16] <_dbd_l12> niyado: no problem, have fun
[23:16] <Pantung> okay :)
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > NikolaBelgrade
[23:17] <yorky501> hi, I have an odd problem, when hit shutdown my pc is restarting, never had this before.... any ideas??
[23:17] <niyado> ;)
[23:17] <redvamp128> Brandon_:  I think it puts a link to that drive on the desktop though. if not then check filesystem mnt folder or possibly media folder it should automount the windows.
[23:17] <Brandon_> I just get the virtual hard drive that it installed. Not the entire hard drive
[23:18] <redvamp128> Brandon_:  THen check those other two locations-
[23:18] <l3ck1> hi... just wanted to ask if someone knows how to make an extended desktop enviroment on ubuntu. i am using a fulHD tv for my other monitor ;) win works out of the box
[23:18] <Brandon_> redvamp128: You mean I should be able to view the contents of the windows file system AND the virtual hard drive together?
[23:19] <Pantung> _dbd_l12, ctrl-alt-backspace>command not found
[23:19] <fearful> Pantung: You don't have to do it on a terminal just press them
[23:19] <redvamp128> Brandon_:  I though someone was looking for that a few days ago and he found out it was already mounted-- I think he said it was in the /media folder or /mnt folder
[23:19] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: you're supposed to press these keys (in succession), like ctrl-alt-delete ;-)
[23:19] <Pantung> i know
[23:20] <Brandon_> redvamp128: Really now? Interesting. I'll get back to you on that. I hope to see you here still.
[23:20] <Pantung> i just toggled in terminal
[23:20] <Pantung> :P
[23:20] <yorky501> hi, odd problem, when i hit shutdown my box is simply rebooting and not shutting down.... any ideas whats causing this???
[23:21] <yoyoned> yorky501: from a terminal try sudo halt -p
[23:21] <CyBurnett> How do I upgrade Ubuntu "hardy" 8.04 to Ubuntu "Intrepid Ibex" without wiping my existing installation?
[23:21] <jrib> !upgrade | CyBurnett
[23:22] <CyBurnett> ubottu, ta!
[23:22] <Pantung> _dbd_l12, why is cmd sudo restart now not found?
[23:22] <yorky501> mmmmmmm
[23:22] <CyBurnett> ubottu, It means Thank You :)
[23:22] <jrib> Pantung: do you mean "reboot"?
[23:22] <Pantung> y jrib
[23:23] <nightrid3r> CyBurnett talking to bots allot lately
[23:23] <jereth> requesting assistence with installing maya 8.5 on ubuntu ibex
[23:23] <Pantung> i forgot :p
[23:23] <jrib> Pantung: well "restart" isn't a command
[23:24] <smast> does anyone know why flash player wont install?
[23:24] <Pantung> jrgp, y iknow forgot the cmd was supose to say reboot now :P
[23:24] <jrib> smast: not if you don't tell us how you are trying to install it and exactly what happens, no
[23:24] <redvamp128> smast:  have you enabled in software sources the restricted and the multiverse
[23:24] <smast> yes i have
[23:25] <smast> and im not typing it just trying to install it thru firefox
[23:26] <redvamp128> smast:  it won't install there because default firefox runs as user and not as root-- so you may just want to use syaptic package manager
[23:26] <smast> jrib: simply downloading thru internet not thru terminal do not know the code
[23:26] <HexTasy_> how do I set up port-forwarding?
[23:27] <smast> thank you redvamp128
[23:27] <Pantung> jrib, why is xubuntu-panel not worning?
[23:27] <Pantung> jrgp, i have tryed to restart complete
[23:27] <jrib> smast: you aren't being specific
[23:28] <jrib> Pantung: I don't know, I don't use xubuntu
[23:28] <Pantung> jrgp, i type xubuntu-destop but it's now showning
[23:28] <Pantung> oh
[23:28] <shadowsight> Hey guys!
[23:28] <Pantung> _VIM_, the cmd xubuntu is not working
[23:28] <Pantung> _VIM_, the cmd xubuntu-destop is not working
[23:28] <Brandon_> OH! Can someone tell me why the uninstall program won't remove the boot entry in the ntldr program in vista?
[23:29] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: you can choose xfce when you log on ! (in sessions)
[23:29] <Brandon_> And why it won't delete the ubuntu folder?
[23:29] <xonex> cause vista is a lame os  @ Brandon_
[23:29] <_VIM_> Pantung: you have to do like _dbd_l12 said, you cant just type xubuntu-desktop
[23:30] <_VIM_> I shoulda told ya that earlier Pantung sorry :)
[23:30] <Pantung> _dbd_l12, its a remote don't have that option? or do i? i dosen't show
[23:30] <Brandon_> >.> xonex, vista is for those who have newer computers and know how to properly use it. if your software is so crappy that it can't work on a newer better OS, then you need to get windows 98 and stay there.
[23:30] <Brandon_> Don't insult my OS choice,.
[23:30] <Brandon_> Please and thanks.
[23:30] <hlm> how to rename folder?
[23:31] <jrib> hlm: mv oldname newname
[23:31] <hlm> jrib, thanks
[23:31] <fearful> Is installing xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu just the same as if i would install xubuntu?
[23:31] <_dbd_l12> Brandon_: just don't except many vista fans here
[23:31] <Cream> Is mediawiki for ubuntu any good?
[23:31] <redvamp128> Brandon_:  It appears as though you need easy BCD to edit that menu
[23:31] <Brandon_> expect you mean.
[23:31] <fearful> Obviously keeping my things
[23:31] <_dbd_l12> Brandon_: well yes ;-)
[23:31] <jordguitar> I need some help with installing ubuntu onto a new hard drive. It starts the install then it gives this error: no root file system is detected
[23:31] <Brandon_> I see...OK, I read the documentation redvamp128 just I don't want a lot of software.
[23:32] <_VIM_> woah
[23:32] <hlm> how do I set it to run programs when my pc starts up?
[23:32] <jrib> haven't seen that in a while
[23:32] <fearful> Is installing xubuntu-desktop just as if I would install Xubuntu through iso?
[23:32] <Pantung> okay how to i remote to a server in ubuntu wants to see gui?
[23:32] <redvamp128> Alternatively you can modify the boot menu via control_panel > system > advanced > startup_and_recovery and pressing "Edit".
[23:32] <jrib> fearful: yes, basically
[23:32] <_VIM_> what just happened?
[23:32] <fearful> jrib: ok
[23:32] <fearful> jrib: Thanks
[23:32] <deww> ANDRE_YOGYA: Yes?
[23:32] <jrib> !exploit | _VIM_
[23:33] <deww> cool
[23:33] <deww> gone
[23:33] <_VIM_> ah thanks jrib
[23:33] <hlm> how do I add applications to start when my pc starts?
[23:33] <rayne_> Is that a bot that responds from them '!' command?
[23:33] <hlm> rayne_, yes
[23:33] <jrib> !startup | hlm
[23:34] <hlm> rayne_, ubottu is a bot
[23:34] <fearful> hlm: Go to System > Preferences > Sessions
[23:34] <hlm> thanks everyong I got it now
[23:34] <Minipluto> Is there a way to get an Fn-Hotkey working even if none of the instructions at -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch <- produce a keycode-/ACPI-Output? All other Fn-Keys are working.
[23:34] <Leissi> roight
[23:34] <Leissi> I'll be around in 8 hours to harass you more about this
[23:34] <rawfael> http://www.psjogos.com
[23:35] <rayne_> hlm, Where can you get a copy of a similar bot for your own channels?
[23:35] <hlm> rayne_, I am unsure, ask around
[23:35] <_VIM_> Supybot rayne_
[23:35] <_VIM_> its a python bot
[23:35] <rayne_> Thank Vim
[23:35] <redvamp128> !ubottu
[23:35] <_VIM_> np
[23:35] <redvamp128> Who is ubottu!?
[23:35] <fearful> redvamp128: A bot.
[23:36] <hlm> !boot
[23:36] <redvamp128> rayne_:  I was trying to get the link to the main page for the creator page of ubottu
[23:36] <Minipluto> i thought ubottu is just a little unfriendly human :D
[23:36] <redvamp128> !about ubottu.
[23:36] <_dbd_l12> redvamp128:or a cyborg hooked up onto the net
[23:36] <hlm> !bots
[23:36] <jrib> redvamp128: his source is on launchpad.net if that's what you mean
[23:36] <redvamp128> no there was some link to angry hawk or something like that
[23:37] <Pantung> _VIM_, have no option at the beaginning saying that
[23:37] <rayne_> redvamp128, I think I found the main page.
[23:37] <Pantung> _VIM_, have xubuntu-destop installed
[23:37] <Pantung> _VIM_, need to start it now how do i do?
[23:39] <_VIM_> Pantung: im not sure how to do it remotely, ask some of the gurus in here, im just a triage nurse in here if you will ;P  havent quite worked up to Doctor status yet :(
[23:40] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: try "xfdesktop"
[23:40] <Pantung> _dbd_l12, okay same question for you i have it installed now, its on remote how do i start xubuntu-destop?
[23:40] <Pantung> okay
[23:40] <Pantung> i'll try
[23:41] <devon> has anyone seen a problem where the mouse ceases to register clicks in 8.10?
[23:42] <petllama> only when my mouse isnt plugged in
[23:42] <devon> cursor still works
[23:42] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: how are you connected to the remote server, ssh ? Did you enable x-forwarding, can you start x, etc... You will get better and more precise answers if you provide more information
[23:42] <devon> just doesn't pass clicks through to the window behind it
[23:43] <nero__> hi
[23:43] <hlm> how do I add things to startup (like how apache2 works) bum failed to give me any way of adding something
[23:44] <alex_> my downloads keep interrupting while i'm watching a flash video. then ubuntu says "can't reconnect to finish the download" or the like
[23:44] <RusBoy> hlm what you want to add ?
[23:44] <alex_> is there anything that is bug free :(
[23:44] <fearful> hlm: You have to find the command of execute, and add it to the Sessions where I told you before
[23:44] <hlm> RusBoy, Id rather not say, but it is a shell script
[23:44] <hlm> fearful, I forgot where you said
[23:44] <_dbd_l12> alex: blame flash
[23:44] <RusBoy> you should add the script to /etc/init.d/
[23:44] <devon> hlm: do you have any experience with init scripts?
[23:45] <hlm> devon,  no but I know what I need to add
[23:45] <fearful> hlm: Thats a better suggestion since its a script
[23:45] <RusBoy> hlm then fix perm
[23:45] <RusBoy> chmod 755 /etc/init.d/script
[23:45] <alpha7> Is there a wait to turn off a fan inside the motherboard in ubuntu? or control?
[23:45] <devon> hlm: if it's custom, just edit /etc/rc.local
[23:45] <hlm> devon, thankyou
[23:45] <RusBoy> hlm update-rc.d script defaults 50
[23:45] <fabio> hi everyone
[23:45] <RusBoy> hlm this 3 commands i give you is best
[23:46] <fabio> do you know why totem (or mplayer) shows nothing with x running on 16 color depth ?
[23:46] <G-Blunted> can you install Skype through package manager?
[23:46] <devon> hlm: put the call in before the exit 0 in /etc/rc.local
[23:46] <hlm> RusBoy,  im a *nix noob
[23:46] <gizmobay> I'm trying to give my login name permission to use the reboot command using the policy kit but it doesn't stick.
[23:46] <Pantung> _dbd_l12, (xfdesktop:5497): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[23:46] <Dallas> i know this is completely the wrong room but i know there are lots of people her so im going to ask. is there anyone that knows visual basic and wouldnt mind helping me out with a problem or does anyone know of a good visual basic irc room? thanks
[23:46] <gizmobay> What am I doing wrong
[23:47] <askvictor> I want to keep my home directory on a usb drive to use between a few computer running ubuntu. What's the nicest way of setting up permissions to do this? I don't have the same UID between the machines.
[23:47] <Pantung> _dbd_l12, winSCP is the program
[23:47] <devon> RusBoy: if hsi script doesn't obey standard init script behavior (liek restart, stop, etc) it really is better for it to go into rc.local
[23:47] <Thisdude> Dallas: MSDN
[23:47] <fearful> Dallas: You do realize that Linux does not use Visual Basic, you are right this is the wrong room to ask.
[23:47] <devon> RusBoy: that's what it's for
[23:47] <fabio> fearful: absolutely right
[23:48] <Dallas> yes fearful that is why i said this is the wrong room....
[23:48] <redvamp128> G-Blunted:  All I can find is a plugin for skype for pidgin.
[23:48] <hlm> RusBoy, can you tell me how to use that command more in depth
[23:48] <Dallas> thanks Thisdude but i need an actual person
[23:48] <hlm> the thing im trying to add has no options
[23:48] <fabio> look for gambas
[23:48] <xtmnx_> can pulseaudio output audio from different applications to different audio devices?
[23:48] <fearful> Dallas: Well most people here use Ubuntu Linux and most of us don't have the knowledge for that we use other programming skills :p
[23:48] <Thisdude> Dallas: maybe you should look at gambas if you want an object orientated linux language, i know a bit of vb what are you struggling with
[23:48] <devon> hlm: that's why it should be in rc.local.  It's teh last thign that gets run on system boot
[23:49] <devon> hlm: and it's designed for executing scripts
[23:49] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: wel that's probably ssh with x forwarding you're doing with winSCP
[23:49] <hlm> will I see its status when I boot?
[23:49] <devon> hlm: is the script in question a persistent daemon, or does it execute and return?
[23:49] <hlm> when quiet splash is off
[23:49] <hlm> daemon
[23:49] <Sertse> is apt-get or aptitude the official cli method?
[23:49] <hlm> devon, its a daemon
[23:49] <Dallas> ha i wish i could do use anything but vb but its required for the class im taking :( i need to know how to set each choice in a combobox as a different variable. for example if the user picks "good" out of the combobox the the variable good is set as "good"
[23:50] <endeavormac> ok, so i misstyped the name to my computer, as, oh man this is embarrassing, endeavormac-eeepac instead of endeavormac-eeepc
[23:50] <redvamp128> G-Blunted:  though on their main page there is a link to a deb file of it
[23:50] <WinnieTehPooh> join #django
[23:50] <devon> hlm: no, it won't be it's own line, but rc.local should be
[23:50] <hlm> I need it to be its own line devon
[23:50] <redvamp128> G-Blunted:  Skype Download for Linux - Download the latest features on Skype <http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/>
[23:50] <Flamittor_> does ubuntu have a firewall?
[23:50] <WinnieTehPooh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDtOM2zJE1I
[23:51] <nightrid3r> Flamittor_ yes iptables
[23:51] <devon> hlm: then you are going to have to write an init script for it
[23:51] <fearful> Flamittor_: Yes Firestarter.
[23:51] <devon> hlm: there are plenty of examples in /etc/init.d
[23:51] <hlm> devon, is there a tutorial on how to do that somewhere
[23:51] <fabio> Flamittor_: ufw
[23:52] <fabio> ufw is a front-end for iptables
[23:52] <devon> hlm: lemme go check.  you probably want to use start-stop-daemon
[23:52] <endeavormac> anyway, as i was saying, so i need to change the name of my computer, like, when i open up terminal
[23:52] <endeavormac> i am lost
[23:52] <devon> hlm: which is a program that is intended for running daemons from init
[23:52] <Flamittor_> what is the firewall ubuntu comes preinstalled with and how to i configerate it
[23:52] <hlm> devon, thanks
[23:53] <lawl> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[23:53] <fabio> endeavormac: /etc/hostanme
[23:53] <redvamp128> endeavormac:  you should just be able to goto system- administration then users and groups  you should be able to edit it there.
[23:53] <Flamittor_> who is flodbot1
[23:53] <fearful> Flamittor_ A bot.
[23:53] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: try "startxfce4"
[23:53] <endeavormac> ok, thanks
[23:53] <Rictoo> omg....
[23:54] <_dbd_l12> Pantung: do you have x "the gui" running when you are connected to the remote server
[23:54] <Necrogamemaster> hello everyone, how are you?
[23:54] <devon> hlm: still looking for a good example, sec
[23:54] <hlm> devon, okay
[23:54] <Flamittor_> why is there so much lag today in the chatroom?
[23:54] <devon> hlm: look in /etc/init.d, there should be a file called skeleton
[23:54] <hlm> Flamittor_, its your ISP I am just fine
[23:54] <petllama> theres not much lag
[23:54] <fabio> you are lagged
[23:55] <devon> hlm: that's boilerplate for a new init script
[23:55] <hlm> devon, I found it
[23:55] <devon> hlm: it should get you 90% of the way
[23:55] <redvamp128> endeavormac:  and if that does not change what you want-- then system- administration-network - then unlock it and general tab
[23:55] <endeavormac> i got it, thanks
[23:55] <Necrogamemaster> excuse me but can Monitor mode be enable in ndiswrapper drivers??
[23:55] <zrz444> 我是新手。遇到一个问题。屏幕分辨率怎么设置为1024＊768
[23:55] <nightrid3r> !cn | zrz444
[23:55] <devon> hlm: also, type man start-stop-daemon to get instructions on how to work with it
[23:56] <Flamittor_> wow
[23:56] <fabio> the name is in /etc/hostaname
[23:56] <Flamittor_> was that chinese or something
[23:56] <hlm> devon, ok thanks!
[23:56] <DIFH-iceroot> Flamittor_: yes it was
[23:56] <Flamittor_> is there really 1395 users here
[23:56] <zrz444> thanks
[23:56] <devon> hlm: once you have that written, then  update-rc.d is the right plan
[23:56] <DIFH-iceroot> Flamittor_: yes again
[23:57] <devon> hlm: that will help you insert it into the boot cycle
[23:57] <_dbd_l12> Flamittor_: http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en#zh-CN|en|%E6%88%91%E6%98%AF%E6%96%B0%E6%89%8B%E3%80%82%E9%81%87%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E9%97%AE%E9%A2%98%E3%80%82%E5%B1%8F%E5%B9%95%E5%88%86%E8%BE%A8%E7%8E%87%E6%80%8E%E4%B9%88%E8%AE%BE%E7%BD%AE%E4%B8%BA
[23:57] <hlm> devon, asim I should run that as sudo?
[23:57] <genii> Flamittor_: The amount of active users is not 1395, but yes
[23:57] <hlm> asin*
[23:57] <genii> Gah!
[23:57] <_dbd_l12> oops, longer then i excepted
[23:57] <_dbd_l12> sorry for that
[23:57] <mepholic> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[23:57] <Flamittor_> will some one answer his quistion then in chinese
[23:58] <petllama> lol @ klined
[23:58] <devon> hlm: when you execute the init script, yes "sudo /etc/init.d/yourprog start" for starting "sudo /etc/init.d/yourprog stop" to stop it, "sudo /etc/init.d/yourprog restart" to stop then start
[23:58] <devon> hlm: where yourprog is your new init script based off of skeleton
[23:58] <hlm> okay
[23:58] <DIFH-iceroot> Flamittor_: not in this channel
[23:58] <devon> hlm: good luck ;)
[23:59] <balrog__> i setup my bluetooth mouse on intrepid, but its not automatically recognized after a reboot.  is there a way to get this to work?
[23:59] <hlm> devon, thanks, ill need it
[23:59] <jdmnynja> hello could anyone please help me with installation of Ubuntu v8.10 32 bit?
[23:59] <KyMc1985> hey all, got a question. i got an old mac system (iMac G3 Tray-Load CD model @ 330MHz-PPC). i cant upgrade to OSX (yet it supports it) due to the discs I have are wrong. What version of Ubuntu can I toss on it?
[23:59] <jrib> !ppc | KyMc1985