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PSiL0noren: you might want to reset alsa if you are running intrepid ibex... here's the command: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart00:01
PSiL0make sure you quit whatever media program you were running00:02
azl3gracias :)00:04
norenpsilo: my amarok is working fine.. but the media player has only vid no audio..00:05
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norenpsilo: my amarok is working fine.. but the media player has only vid no audio..00:11
drostie:-D the person who asked me to paste my /boot/grub/menu.lst file was a genius. ^_^00:12
solifugusWhat are people doing to get openoffice 3 ??    Is there a(n) (k)ubuntu package somewhere?00:13
dutlerdrostie: as apose to the grub.conf ? sorry about that :)00:13
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solifugusbecause you couldn't seriously be using version 2.400:13
ibuffygenii: so what do you think would fix this?00:14
solifugus:)-:-<     <-- ascii p0rn00:15
geniiibuffy: I think you'll need to manually note each dependency version and explitly install them with the sudo apt-get install packagename=1.2.version     type syntax00:15
ibuffyhere's my sources.list: http://dpaste.com/121932/00:15
drostiesolifugus: the package openoffice.org-wrier, at least in my version, claims a version number of 1:3.0.1-1ubuntu1.00:15
drostie*openoffice.org-writer00:15
ibuffygenii: i have no clue how to do that :\00:15
solifugusreally?  ok.. the splash screen says 2.4 for me.. i will go check the about dialog00:16
geniiibuffy: eg: you try to install for instance "abcd" and it groans "abcd requires wxyz version xxxx"    so you sudo apt-get install wxyz=xxxx00:17
solifugusdrostie: it says 2.4.... maybe you are getting experimental packages?00:17
geniiibuffy: Until all the dep versions are what the main package you are trying to install are met00:17
drostiesolifugus: in a manner of speaking, it appears so. According to packages.ubuntu.com, jaunty is on 3.0 while intrepid is on 2.4. I'm on jaunty; I'm guessing you're on intrepid.00:20
norenpsilo: my amarok is working fine.. but the media player has only vid no audio..00:20
norenits late here i will try fix it tomorrow00:20
solifugusdrostie: I depend on this machine and so wanted everything stable..  oo.o 3 has been out for so long though..00:21
drostiesolifugus: I can imagine. Linux .debs are available from openoffice.org (the site) directly. You can download one of them and install directly via http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US .00:25
drostieBut there's probably someone in charge of the packages who should be told to wake up. ^_^00:25
ibuffygenii, what exactly does this mean: "Depends: koffice-data-kde4 (>= 1:1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1)"00:26
dutlerdrostie: the choice not to support ooo3 on 8.10 was made... its not afrom asomeone slacking00:26
ibuffyi need to install koffice-data-kde4 v.1.1.9.98.5?00:26
drostiedutler: ah, k.00:27
geniiibuffy: That means the package you are currently trying to install requires koffice-data-kde4 specific version of 1:1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 as a prerequisite00:27
darksmokeTm_T: wtf did you see me use a public away msg?00:27
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drostieibuffy: you can also type "aptitude show koffice-data-kde4" to find out more about that package.00:28
ibuffygenii: but we've already tried installing koffice-data-kde4=1:1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid100:28
geniiibuffy: What installed version of it does:  apt-cache policy koffice-data-kde4                report?00:29
genii(if any)00:29
ibuffyi already pasted the info... one sec...00:29
ibuffyhttp://dpaste.com/121938/00:30
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ibuffygenii: maybe i didn't, but i did use the command once before :000:30
ibuffy:) **00:30
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ibuffythat was quick00:30
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drostieibuffy: can I help in any way? (I joined after you described the problem, sadly. :-/)00:35
geniiibuffy: Ok, what says result of: ls /var/cahe/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4*             ? We can use dpkg instead of apt-get to force overwrite of another packages pre-existing files if we have the full .deb filename00:36
geniils /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4*                                rather (typo on "cache")00:37
ibuffygenii: /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4_1%3a1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb00:39
ibuffydrostie: maybe00:39
ibuffyhere's the problem: http://dpaste.com/121859/00:39
ibuffydrostie: and here's all the pastebin links:  http://dpaste.com/121863/   http://dpaste.com/121868/   http://dpaste.com/121877/   http://dpaste.com/121882/   http://dpaste.com/121932/00:41
ibuffy(after the first)00:41
drostieibuffy: and you can't just mv /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions/object-order-back.png /tmp, so that the file isn't there and can be gracefully overwritten?00:41
ibuffydrostie: haven't tried it.. one sec00:41
drostie(of course, restore the file from /tmp if this fails. ^_^)00:42
geniiibuffy: So to try:    sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4_1%3a1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb00:42
geniidrostie: moving the file somewhere probably won't affect that the packaging system thinks the file belongs to a certain other package00:43
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christopher_can anyone help with random freezes. i think it has somthing to do with my radeon card. i'm using the open source drivers that came with kubuntu.00:43
christopher_anyone have any ideas?00:45
ibuffydrostie: i still have the same error after doing that :| http://dpaste.com/121943/00:45
drostiegenii: ah. Makes sense. I just had the idea because it complains about "trying to overwrite" the file. But if it still complains, that's probably why. ^_^00:45
ibuffygenii: one sec, will do00:45
solifugusok.. I have a directory full of .deb files (openoffice 3.0.1)--how can I install them?00:46
solifugusThe readme doesn't say00:46
drostiechristopher_: that's, er, a rather broad question. Are there proprietary drivers that K > Applications > System > Hardware Drivers tells you to use instead?00:47
lacitcarphi - learning the basics. I've created a new user and set the password. su [newuser] authenticates but doesn't seem to have an effect - whoami still returns the previous user. am I misunderstanding something?00:47
drostiesolifugus: try clicking or double-clicking them in Dolphin. ;-)00:47
ibuffygenii: and then try installing koffice-kde4?00:48
ibuffyjust did that and....00:48
ibuffyi think it worked00:48
solifugusdrostie: yeah.... been doing that.. each says it needs another.. but I finally found one that looks like it's the bottom of the dependency tree..00:48
ibuffyIT WORKED!00:48
geniiibuffy: Yes, the specific version with the   name=1.2.versioname       way I showed earlier00:49
ibuffywow, what was that voodoo?00:49
pharohas anyone tried kdevelop4 (3.9.91-0ubuntu2~intrepid1~ppa1)? I'm getting a segfault while trying to create a new project... trying to figure out if it's a known issue or if something is wrong with my setup00:49
geniiibuffy: Hehe, almost voodo. but basically just going straight to dpkg for the overwriting option not found in the apt-get way00:49
ibuffygenii: i didn't use the specific version, i just install koffice-kde400:49
ibuffyi see00:50
drostielacitcarp: the "man su" command suggests that you need to su -l [newuser] if you want to create an environment similar to that of a newly logged-in person.00:50
ibuffygenii: can't think you enough, that has been bothering me for awhile00:50
geniiYes, the -l    is  same as "simulate login"00:50
geniiibuffy: You're welcome00:51
drostiepharo: I haven't tried it yet. Have you checked launchpad and/or tried to report the bug?00:51
Ch1ppyHey, is anyone else having trouble connecting to MSN via Kopete most of the time?00:51
ibuffyCh1ppy: nope00:52
Ch1ppyOdd. I can't connect at all right now and I have no idea why... :S00:52
lacitcarpdrostie, genii: that did not seem to have any effect on the behavior without -l.  whoami still returns prior user, and bash cmd prompt contains old username00:52
ibuffyCh1ppy: i don't connect to msn often since two weeks ago when i needed it.00:53
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ibuffyCh1ppy: and i can't connect now, their IM server might be having problems temporarily00:54
Ch1ppyibuffy: It's been happening 90% of the time for the last week or two. aMSN and other clients have no trouble connecting...00:54
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ibuffyoh, so this may be a persistant problem w/ kopete and msn after all00:55
Ch1ppyThat's my thinking, yep00:55
solifugusdrostie: still installing .deb dependencies as I get errors to tell me what they are.. one by one..  very tedious..00:56
drostielacitcarp: I don't know how you're doing it, but when I [sudo adduser reggae] and then [su -l reggae], whoami returns "reggae" until I [exit].00:56
lacitcarphi all I figured out what I had done wrong.  the new user's shell was set to /bin/false rather than /bin/bash00:57
lacitcarpthanks for your help00:57
christopher_there are no propietry drivers installed00:57
GWildhello00:58
christopher_drostie: there are no propietry drivers installed00:59
drostiesolifugus: if you're familiar with text consoles, you might be able to tell dpkg to install multiple .debs. I don't know whether dpkg -i supports multiple files, but I have the feeling it does. In which case, bash should auto-expand "sudo dpkg -i *" for you in the right way.00:59
solifugusjust don't know how that works..01:00
solifugusneed to learn some things... debian docs are very long winded, too01:01
geniidrostie: dpkg accepts wildcards01:02
christopher_i just can't seem to find the root to these random hangs01:03
drostiesolifugus: just open a konsole (Alt-F2, type "Konsole") and then [cd ~/Documents/Oo.o_____] or wherever you put the folder with the extracted .debs in it.01:03
drostiemake sure there's nothing but .debs in that folder, then [sudo dpkg -i *] to install all of them at once. dpkg should be able to figure out the tree on its own.01:04
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drostiechristopher_: what sort of hangs are they. What is happening when they occur? How long do they occur? does the system eventually stabilize? What happens if you try to Ctrl-Alt-F1 into a TTY when one is occurring?01:05
drostiethat's where I'd start, at least, in trying to find the root of the problem.01:06
christopher_drostie: it completely hands, alt-f1 does nothing, the system never stabilizes, they seem to occur more often in graphically intense areas. they happen completely randomly, so it could happen once a day or 3 times in an hour.01:06
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drostieAlt-F1?01:07
christopher_drostie: Alt F1 doesn't respond01:08
drostiechristopher_: I know, but why are you trying the keypress that opens the K-menu? Ctrl-Alt-F1 is very different, and useful if, say, X crashes.01:08
christopher_drostie: sorry that's what i ment ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't do anything01:09
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drostiechristopher_: ah, k. Sorry if my question was simple-minded. I assume the xserver-xorg-video-ati package is installed and up-to-date?01:11
christopher_drostie: i think so, how can i check it?01:12
kubuntu_Help!01:12
kubuntu_i need to play an m4a on my newly installed kubuntu am a newbie01:12
kubuntu_but my music files won't play even after using the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras command01:13
drostiechristopher_: [sudo apt-get update] and then [sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati]. If it updates, then you didn't have those installed.01:13
kubuntu_Hello!01:13
kubuntu_i need help!01:14
Ch1ppykubuntu_: Be patient!01:14
silleneed help with auto mounting usb externaldrives.  they used to automatically be seen and then automount.  Since soem recent changes this no longer occurs. now,01:14
christopher_drostie: yup all up-to-date01:14
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drostiechristopher_: can you bear to try uninstalling them? Your computer will probably then default to some non-optimized driver, and you'll know whether the video drivers were, in fact, the problem.01:16
christopher_drostie: ok ill give it a shot. how sure are you that it'll help?01:16
drostiekubuntu_: what exactly happens when you try to open an .m4a in Amarok?01:17
christopher_kubuntu_: try opening up a console and typeing : "apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"01:17
drostiechristopher_: I have no idea. The only source I have for the thought that the video driver is at fault is your hunch. But it probably won't hurt.01:18
christopher_drostie: ok ill try it01:18
kubuntu_i have done that  christopher01:18
kubuntu_ but my amarok player is not playing01:19
drostiechristopher_: well, I should be more precise: it probably *will* hurt your video performance, but it will hopefully also give you a better idea of the problem.01:19
kubuntu_the m4a format and i still need to get limewire in on this new OS i just installed01:19
muxomor_Hi, i ve got such problem: can't mount mp3player via usb. It is on fat, schould be recognized as /dev/sd*, but it says device not found. Automounting or dialog window doesnt appear, in dmesg -  usb 1-2.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5101:20
drostiekubuntu_: when you say "not playing," what exactly do you mean? Does it not start? Does it start, and not play the file? Does it play the file but no sound comes out of the speakers?01:21
muxomor_what i wish toknow, is how to make it mountable as a disk, on /media/sdb01:21
drostiesille: what were the "recent changes"...?01:22
sille1. transferedimage to new hd01:22
sille2 had to reset all orig mounted disks as they were never set up correctyl.01:23
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silleinternal hd partitions are now correctly automounted01:23
drostiemuxomor_: could you put the output of [sudo fdisk -l] on dpaste.com (or similar) and post a link to it?01:23
kubuntu_yes it starts and doesn't play the files01:23
kubuntu_it reports an error01:24
kubuntu_that it needs a decoder01:24
muxomor_drostie: of course, just a second01:24
sillebut externals (usb) drives no longer auto mount01:24
christopher_drostie: no it hasn't worked. apter doing that it wouldn't let me in X so i had to install xserver-xorg-video-sti again01:24
GWildhello - I just installed Kubuntu for the first time 8.1001:24
GWildhas anyone here experienced a problem with their start button disappearing?  If so, how did you get it back (CTRL-A menu will not do it)01:25
Ch1ppyErr, it seems like the libmsn0.1 package in the repos has gone the way of the dodo? "Reinstallation of libmsn0.1 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."01:25
muxomor_drostie: http://paste.org/index.php?id=542001:26
drostiechristopher_: blech. I would have expected X to just default to another driver. Sorry about that. :-\01:26
christopher_drostie: no harm done. any other ideas?01:26
muxomor_drostie: i examined it with df too, just my harddrive. It is logical, that i must mount player manually,(tried under openbox), but then tried to do it automatically in kde  'doesnt work, shows nothing after plugging/unplugging01:28
drostiechristopher_: not without examining the computer for myself, no. sorry.01:28
christopher_drostie: ok no worries01:28
mofuxhi, how can i bind "suspend to hdd" to my power button in kde4?01:30
drostiekubuntu_: have you restarted since you installed the restricted drivers that amarok wanted? I vaguely remember amarok being annoying in that sense. Otherwise, you might just have to use another program, like vlc or so.01:30
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muxomor_bz01:31
silledrostie: any suggestions ?01:31
muxomor_was disconnected for a while01:31
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kubuntu_nope01:31
kubuntu_where can i get vlc?01:32
kubuntu_do you have a link ?01:32
muxomor_apt-get?01:32
drostiesille: how did you manage this copying from one drive to another?01:33
kubuntu_<christopher> do you have a link to the vlc files?01:33
drostiekubuntu_: Linux distros are a bit more convenient than Windows etc. for software installation: you ensure that you always get a malware-free package by installing from a "repository" instead.01:34
silledrostie:  using 3rd party software.  I actually think that teh mounted drives ere neer set up correctly.  think it was just coincidence that probs recently started01:34
muxomor_kubuntu_: they are available in repository,if i understand you correctly01:34
carloshola01:34
drostieTo do this: K menu > Computer > Adept Installer (or Alt-F1 Adept) and find the "vlc" package. ^_^01:35
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kubuntu_ok01:35
jpedrozaevening all. I just got a new Dell Inspiron Mini Netbook, the 12", and would like to install Intrepid on it. I know ubuntu Hardy comes pre-installed by Dell, but will Intrepid work? Has anyone been able to get everything working?01:35
drostieOr, open up a terminal (Alt-F1 Konsole) and browse the packages directly: [aptitude search vlc], [aptitude show vlc], [sudo apt-get install vlc].01:35
drostietoo many people, not enough tech support brains. ^_^01:36
genii!es | Guest3831901:36
ubottuGuest38319: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:36
drostiejpedroza: did your particular dell inspiron have hardy installed on it?01:37
jpedrozadrostie: Unfortunately, no. It came with Vista, which really sucks.01:37
GWildhas anyone here experienced a problem with their start button disappearing?  If so, how did you get it back (CTRL-A menu will not do it)01:38
drostiejpedroza: the Live CD can probably still be used to create a dual-boot system. Download one from ubuntu.com or kubuntu.org.01:40
drostieBeyond that, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam is your best friend ever.01:40
jpedrozadrostie: The live CD boots fine, but no xorg. console login only...01:40
drostieIntrepid probably works on anything that Hardy works on.01:40
drostieWow. Really?01:41
jpedrozadrostie: drostie: Really, really.01:42
jpedrozadrostie: From what I can find, there seems to be issues with the Indel video drivers.01:42
jpedrozaoops Intel01:43
drostie:-\ is the intrepid tutorial at http://www.ubuntumini.com/ any help?01:43
* jpedroza is browsing it now01:44
drostie(They don't mention anything about broken display drivers, as far as I see, but maybe I'm missing something.)01:44
drostiesille: sorry that I'm just getting back to this. Is it possible to revert back to the way it worked before? You could maybe then [sudo cp -a ____] all of the files over.01:46
drostiesille: but my best advice is basically resize partitions, reinstall from a live CD to one of them, migrate your files and possibly any important settings over, then start fresh.01:47
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jpedrozadrostie: Most of that seems to be for the Mini 9, not the 12. Not seeing any installation information either.01:47
silledrostie: I will look at the original fstab file.  i will also boot up and look at the setup of the mounts off original disk... still in my pc:).  Would rather not revert as I know for sure other mounts were set up wrong.  ie swap partition seen as floppy, mount points duplicated, etc.  Everything perfect now.. of course except the connections through usb.  :(01:49
msshola01:50
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drostiejpedroza: k. google and ubuntuforums.com look... inconclusive (people talking about the problem yes, but I don't see a howto.)01:51
silledrostie: just have to figure out if there is  a generic command i can type in fstab file that will cause an auto mounting of all usb devices that i connect....01:51
jpedrozadrostie: I will see if there is an ISO from Dell that I can install from, that is pre-configured for the Mini 1201:52
jpedrozamss: hola01:52
jpedroza!es | mss01:52
ubottumss: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:52
drostiejpedroza: obviously, the live cd is little help to you if xorg doesn't start. but the text-based installer could maybe get you into the system, from which you could try tweaking .conf files and driver settings.01:52
jpedrozadrostie: I am going to try that as well.01:53
drostiesille: I don't believe so. The fstab file isn't set up that way. (cf. [man fstab] and [man mount] for its syntax.)01:53
silledrostie: ok.  will reboot to old drive and see if i can see any obvious mounting points/ directories, etc that i may have deleted.01:55
drostieGWild: does Alt-F1 bring up the menu...?01:55
drostiesille: that's not exactly what I meant, but ok. I just don't see why you don't start up fresh, if you have the spare hd anyway.01:56
GWilddrostie, No, it doesn't01:56
drostieGWild: Is the menu gone from the panel, or is the whole panel gone?01:57
GWildthe panel is there, but the button is gone01:57
GWilddrostie, the Widgets menu does not restore it01:57
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GWilddrostie, the panel is there, but the button is gone01:58
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jpedrozadrostie: how do you boot into the text installer?02:01
drostieGWild: hrm. without seeing the process in action I couldn't really debug it. Especially if it doesn't help to remove it from the panel, restart, then add it to the panel fresh.02:01
GWilddrostie: I'm going to reboot02:01
drostiejpedroza: It's just another CD, like the Live CD. Except it only has an installer on it.02:01
drostieWell, and maybe the memory test etc. options.02:02
Ch1ppyDoes anyone know where the libmsn0.1 package should be coming from?02:02
zipperhi02:02
drostieCh1ppy: [sudo apt-get install libmsn0.1] doesn't install it for you?02:03
Ch1ppydrostie: it's already installed, but I'm trying to reinstall it due to kopete issues... I keep getting "Reinstallation of libmsn0.1 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."02:04
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jpedrozalooks like Hardy is my only hope02:07
drostieCh1ppy: downloads are fine for me off of the nl.archive.ubuntu.com mirror. Which mirror is failing when you apt-get install it?02:08
Ch1ppydrostie: I'm using the us.archive.ubuntu.com, so it's especially odd02:09
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drostieCh1ppy: maybe there's a broken package in your cache. Try [sudo apt-get remove kopete libmsn0.1], [sudo apt-get clean], [sudo apt-get update], [sudo apt-get install kopete libmsn0.1], in that order.02:12
Ch1ppydrostie: Well, I tried searching the ubuntu repo for it (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmsn0.1&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all) and that's returning nothing... it seems like it just doesn't exist in the repos?02:13
VanessaEpython02:14
VanessaEoops02:14
jpedrozadrostie: It looks like there are a lot of fixes coming in Jaunty. Since I am running Jaunty on my other laptop, I am going to try Alpha 402:15
jpedrozaWho knows, I might be able to contribute something.02:16
jpedroza:)02:16
drostieCh1ppy: that explains the discrepancy. There's a beta package built for jaunty, none for intrepid. If you want, you can possibly add the jaunty main repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list.02:16
Ch1ppydrostie: Is there a better way to do it?02:17
drostieCh1ppy: depends. Can you just [apt-get install kopete] and not worry about libmsn0.9 at all? (It doesn't seem likely to be a new feature in jaunty.)02:21
Ch1ppydrostie: I would, but that would remove msn support in kopete wouldn't it?02:21
mason_Could somebody help me out with Amarok?02:21
mason_Amarok isn't detecting my iPod.02:22
mason_It's mounted at /mount/ipod, is that correct...?02:22
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drostieCh1ppy: In jaunty, libmsn0.9 is a dependency, and Kopete won't install without it. So if Kopete is installing, that would seem to indicate that its libmsn0.9 support is intrinsic. (or intrinsically unavailable.) Either way, install kopete and then see if MSN just works.02:23
Ch1ppydrostie: Just tried; no MSN support02:23
drostiemason_: I don't know. type Alt-F2, Konsole, and type [mount].02:24
drostieCh1ppy: then it sounds like your next best option, short of finding a tarball, is kmess (a msn-specific kde messenger).02:26
mason_drostie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119480/02:27
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drostieAssuming that you don't have a thing for kopete, that is.02:27
oobethe angle on my printer is a bit off tilt does anyone know what that is called or how to fix it02:27
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psycoHEY GUYS02:27
Ch1ppydrostie: I use 4 other protocols and having two clients is a massive pain. I shall try to find a tarball or package02:28
psycoanyone have any tips on getting firefox to look more kde 4.2 ish? the buttons are *bleghhh*02:28
mason_drostie: any suggestions?  When I hit connect, I get Media Device: No mounted iPod found02:29
drostiepsyco: google for [KDE Firefox theme] and see what you can find.02:30
psycoalrightr02:30
drostiemason_: /media/ipod is not mounted with anything on your computer. You might check [sudo fdisk -l] to see whether there's a disk device somewhere on your computer. Better yet, if there's a "Last Plugged In Device" type of icon in the lower right corner, click it, and then click on the iPod to mount it in Dolphin. Once it's in Dolphin, it's mounted *somewhere*.02:32
drostiemason_: I don't know if Amarok decodes iPod obfuscation, though. I know that Rockbox has to initialize a complicated database to map the iPod gibberish filenames to the actual music titles.02:33
drostie'kay, guys. it's 3:30am in my country, which is officially Too Late. hopefully some other tech support shows up for you. ^_^ see y'all.02:33
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Ch1ppyEr.... kdenetwork: Depends: knewsticker (>= 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but it is not going to be installed!??!02:42
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ZirgHey Gang. I need a wireless guru. Got an AR242x card in this laptop that just refuses to play well with others. Who should I 'ping' for help?02:59
ZirgHmmm. It's AWFULLY quiet in here. THAT is unusual!03:01
dwidmannZirg: hmm, not exactly .... it does get really busy in here around releases though03:02
Zirgdwidmann, well then, who might I talk to concerning with wifi issue?03:04
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geniiZirg: There seems some useful info on your subject at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94004803:11
* genii makes more coffee03:11
brentwasn't a 64 bit adobe flash player released? Is it still experimental?03:11
brentnot showing a package for it03:12
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ubuntu_help03:34
ubuntu_my hard disk suddenly thinks its full03:34
ubuntu_but its not03:35
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abadr_hello03:55
DaSkreechHi03:55
abadr_new to IRC here.... do I just shoot with my question??03:56
DaSkreechYes sir03:57
DaSkreechassuming you are male :)03:58
xainHello everyone03:58
DaSkreech!hi03:58
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:58
* genii hands out more cookies and coffee03:58
xain!volume03:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about volume03:58
xainI bet you don't.03:58
xainAnyone know how i can increase the system wide volume on my KDE installation?03:59
abadr_ok... I installed Ubunti 8.10 then kubuntu and then upgraded to KDE 4.2. Somewhere along the line I lost all audio output.03:59
DaSkreechgenii: Any Tea?03:59
DaSkreechxain: Kmix03:59
DaSkreechabadr_: Like... all of it?04:00
* genii makes a tea special for DaSkreech and slides it to him04:00
DaSkreechMMMMMM04:00
abadr_I tried to reinstall alsa but that didn't work and I could'nt find a lot of useful info online. any ideas on what to do?04:00
xainYes all of it.04:00
xainI mean like an overamp that is not distorted.04:00
DaSkreech!sound04:01
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:01
xain!players04:01
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs04:01
xainBleh.04:01
abadr_i'll check those right now....04:01
xainNothing there that would help me.04:01
xain!MP304:01
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:01
xainI doubt that would help either.04:02
geniixain: What hardware is the soundcard?04:02
DaSkreechxain: Did you try kmix?04:02
xainI need something like an overamo for my actual sound card.04:02
xainOveramp*04:02
xainYes i tried Kmix.04:02
xainI don't have an actual over/underamp scale for it.04:02
xainKaffeine has one.04:03
xainBut not a very good one.04:03
xainBut not everything runs under Kaffeine.04:03
xainSo it's not very helpful.04:03
DaSkreechStuff doesn't run under kaffiene?04:04
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abadr_my sound card: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)04:04
DaSkreechDon't think I've found that yet04:04
abadr_yes kmix is set correctly04:04
DaSkreechabadr_: no sounds at all?04:04
abadr_yes no sound coming out of the speakers, all video runs without sound04:05
xainMy sound run's fine.04:05
genii!intelhda04:05
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto04:05
xainI want an overamp, and high end equalizer.04:05
DaSkreechooooooh didn't know that one :)04:05
xainLucky you for running intel sound.04:05
xainI'm stuck with realtek...04:06
geniixain: What says result of:  lspci -nn | grep Audio04:06
abadr_what's the difference between alsa and pulse audio? are they complementary? which are we running?04:06
xainWe are running Alsa currently.04:07
xainPulse add's what i am looking for personally as of system wide EQ and overamp.04:07
xainBUT.04:07
abadr_lspci -nn | grep audio:  00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383]04:07
DaSkreechabadr_: Pulseaudio runs on top of alsa04:07
xainIt has a very bad feedback on sound quality.04:07
DaSkreechxain hey04:13
abadr_ok I ran: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" and I got  "Codec: Realtek ALC268". isn't that different from intel hda? is there some sort of misconfiguration?04:13
geniiabadr_: No, this is right.04:15
geniiabadr_: A lot of soundcards Realtek produces are just rebranded Intel HDA04:15
abadr_ok..04:16
brentwhy is my amsn not working?04:19
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DaSkreechbrent: Dunno04:20
brentok.thanks04:21
geniiProbably because MSN keeps changing their protocols so you are railroaded into using their client04:21
DaSkreechMaybe not04:21
genii(this happens about 3-4 times a year)04:21
DaSkreechAnyone here on MSN now?04:21
brentwhat can i do to fix it?04:21
Ch1ppyI'm on MSN via kmess right now04:22
geniiDaSkreech: Not at the moment but could start up pidgin or so04:22
Ch1ppyMSN via kopete is FUBAR for me ATM though04:22
DaSkreechCh1ppy: Do you really need to be on now?04:23
kuaeraKopete's kind of a semi-crapshoot :(04:23
geniikuaera: I agree04:23
xainSorry screech, baby was waking up.04:23
Ch1ppyDaSkreech: Sorry?04:23
Ch1ppyDaSkreech: I'm online on kmess, so it's not an issue... I'd rather have kopete running, but I've given up on that right now... the issue is far too irritating04:23
kuaeragenii: Poor KDE color/style support, poor chatroom integration. Bad interface.04:23
kuaeraThe only boon is integration with your contact list...which reminds me that Kontact isn't 100% either :(04:24
xainI downgraded back to 8.04 due to issues myself.04:24
geniiInteresting. Pidgin is groaning about an ssl certificate at contacts.msn.com when i start up04:24
DaSkreechCh1ppy: Can you log off and back in?04:24
xainIncluding the KDE4 bug on Intel VGA chipsets.04:24
Ch1ppyDaSkreech: Oh. Sure04:25
DaSkreechxain: What does lspci -nn | grep Audio say?04:25
xainI have no errors or problems with hardware or software,04:25
xainI want a system wide equalizer and overamp kinda like what you get with pulse audio.04:26
Ch1ppyDaSkreech: Works for me04:26
DaSkreechok04:26
xainBut i wont use Pulse ever again.04:26
xainI had a really bad overamp issue with screaming feedback.04:26
abadr_rebooting, back in a bit.04:28
PSiL0I give up... I find myself spending more time troubleshooting kubuntu rather than getting any real work done.  For the past half-hour, I had to rescue some of my data I've been analyzing today due to the fact that resuming in kde 4.2.0 is a crapshoot.. It is more like playing russian roulette with anything I had in my workspace...  This is where everything slows to a crawl after coming out of resume with all of the system processes04:28
PSiL0 running under disk sleep mode..04:28
Ch1ppyDaSkreech: In case it comes up for someone else, the libmsn0.1 package for intrepid has gone the way of the dinosaur04:29
PSiL0Then after saving my data, I did "sudo shutdown now" in tty1 that tells me, again, that kdm does not respond to the term signal that then leads me to a new menu (emergency?) where I can rescue broken packages or recover x-server, which I selected..04:30
xainPSiLO : Go to Hardy Heron dude.04:30
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xainMine crashed on me non stop in intrepid.04:31
PSiL0then it set up a blank xorg.conf, which I had to aticonfig --initial -f to get everything back to working order, after couple more restarts since kwin couldn't start up the compositing engine..04:31
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xainI switched from a Gnome edition to KDE and i am having problem's on mine.04:31
xainI'm about to switch back to Gnome.04:31
PSiL0man, I don't think I swore at my windows install as much as my kubuntu install lately, and I am not a neophyte when it comes to unix cli, having first been exposed to it in '9304:31
kuaeraI'm enjoying the hell out of KDE 4.2 in Jaunty >_>04:32
kuaeraI don't even have an xorg.conf.04:32
kuaeraAnd, yes, I am running the ati driver.04:33
xainI'm running an Intel 945GMA which could be a major problem, but then again.04:33
xainCould be i was running KDE 4.104:33
kuaeraLeagues of difference from what I've seen.04:33
xainI haven't tried Jaunty yet.04:33
DaSkreechPSiL0: Yeah I've had issues with KDM not responding to stuff but that's normally after X goes crazy04:33
xainIS it possible to run KDE4.2 in Hardy 8.04 by what anyone knows?04:34
kuaeraYes04:34
kuaeraWait.04:34
kuaeraHardy 8.04?04:34
PSiL0DaSkreech: Yeah, kdm has been a pain in the arse after upgrading my catalyst drivers to 9.104:34
kuaera8.04, yes, Hardy, no.04:34
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PSiL0It was more patience than skill that saved my days worth analysis just now, as I had to wade through whatever bothered X04:35
PSiL0sorry for my rant.. maybe it should have been directed to the guys in #kde instead ;)04:35
xain8.04 IS HArdy....04:36
PSiL0xain: Actually, I'm holding out hope for jaunty :)04:36
xainUnless you mean an upgrade from an old edition.04:36
kuaeraxain: Rather... Hardy, no, Intrepid, yes >_< I'm tired.04:36
xainPSiLO : I would too myself, bt i'm running a crappy Intel945GMA, so i have to deal with what i got.04:37
kuaeraPSiL0: Jaunty seems pretty nice to me.04:37
xainI would love to upgrade.04:37
PSiL0Anyways, I think my rant was more appropriate for #kde because kubuntu 08.10 under 4.1.4 was rock-solid compared to the problems I'm having with 4.2.004:37
kuaeraI'm just concerned about the status of various integral pieces of KDE 4 software04:37
DaSkreechPSiL0: Go to it04:37
xainBut i wouldn't know where to start without getting pissed off at my laptop without breaking it.04:37
DaSkreechkuaera: like?04:38
kuaeraKOffice 204:38
kuaeraKontact bugs, kopete deficiencies04:38
kuaeraKonqueror still falling short of expectations04:38
xainFireFox all the way.04:39
kuaeraArora, actually, is my browser of choice.04:39
PSiL0DaSkreech: Do you experience any problems with normal shutdowns, where kdm does respond to the system's TERM signal?04:39
kuaeraAnd Firefox doesn't "run" on KDE4.04:39
xainI'd like to use netscape navigator please. o.o04:39
xainLol.04:39
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PSiL0xain: Yeah FF3 was nice before a recent kwin upgrade crippled one of my oft used mouse gesture >:(04:40
kuaeraArora, with some additional KDE integration [which is next on their list and I'm active in], is actually a very strong candidate04:40
xainDoesn't run on KDE 4 my ass.04:40
DaSkreechFirefox is a Windows application04:40
xainMine ran just fine.04:40
kuaeraI mean that it doesn't integrate with KDE 4, doesn't use Qt.04:40
xainI just had MAJOR issues with everything else as in graphical wise.04:40
xainOH.04:40
DaSkreechkuaera: Koffice 2 is a rewrite. Kontact bus are being squashed at a massive rate, Kopete needs help Who will step up to help it?04:41
xainI'm not that familiar with what you mean by QT so i appoligize abotu that.04:41
DaSkreechkuaera: Not sure how that's a KDE problem04:41
PSiL0kuaera: there is a kde4 skin and gtk-engine-qt4 with oxygen-remix solves the rest, now ff3 lookss nicely intergrated witht eh rest of kde404:41
kuaeraIt's an adoptability problem, DaSkreech04:41
DaSkreechxain: Qt is the toolkit that KDE is built on Firefox uses a mix of GTk+ and XUL04:41
xainI don't use Kopete.04:41
DaSkreechkuaera: What do you mean by that?04:42
xainYour speaking to a Kinux Newbie BTW man.04:42
xainLinux*04:42
xainI just know what i've tested out and how it perform's.04:42
kuaeraDaSkreech: I've elected to help write KOffice 2 online documentation. Kontact's biggest issues are still outstanding and I should report them. Kopete... I don't know.04:42
kuaeraDaSkreech: A desktop environment is only as good as it's programs, really.04:43
PSiL0kuaera: I use the iconset here (http://kims-area.com/?q=node/62) to replace the ugly gnome icons in ff3..04:43
DaSkreechkuaera: KDE has very good programs04:44
PSiL0kuaera: then I installed lxappearance to force gtk apps to use a certain window theme and iconset04:44
kuaeraDaSkreech: The basics: browsing, work processing, email, chat.04:44
xainBut anyway, back to my own issue. xD04:44
PSiL0kuaera: sudo apt-get install lxappearance... GTK-themes or whatever it is called under Appearances in system settings never worked out well for me04:44
xainAnyone know of a program i can get through add/remove that can give me the ability to control systame wide EQ and Volume, and Overamping?04:45
kuaeraPSiL0: It's alright, I'm happy with Arora :P04:45
DaSkreechkuaera: I would say the weakest is chat and as I said Kopete is basically two guys. None sponsored none with a significant amount of free time04:46
DaSkreechAlmost all of Kopete is plugin based so if someone wants something done it can be done04:46
DaSkreechJust who will do it?04:46
PSiL0anyways, I think I will be heading back to my windows xpsp3 partition for my work since I have a paper to write and my refs are all in endnote.. I haven't had to time to import them to Bibtex04:46
kuaeraI don't know C++, though I'd like to.04:46
kuaeraDaSkreech: Oh, audio is a good fifth on the basics, and the latest Amarok 2 is very strong [I compiled from SVN]04:47
xain.....04:48
xainSILENCE BREAKER!04:48
xainI have Amarok running properly and my audio.04:48
xainI just have 2 issues with my Linux installation so far.04:49
xainVisual and Audio.04:49
PSiL0I really would like to use linux, but the progressive crippling of functionalities I deem essential to me (kde and ati updates) prevents from doing so04:49
DaSkreechxain: That's a hell of a two things04:49
xainHaha.04:49
DaSkreechPSiL0: What's getting worse?04:49
PSiL0As for the ati update, I should take the blame since I guess that is the price I pay for trying out the bleeding edge04:49
xainI'm kool with OpenGL.04:49
DaSkreechkuaera: have they gone to Amarok 2.1 yet or are they still in 2.0 mode ?04:50
xainPSiLO: Serves ya right. xD04:50
kuaera2.0.x, yeah.04:50
xainPSiLO: Wish i has an ATI...04:50
DaSkreechkuaera: Ok I've decided I'll wait till 2.1 before jumping back in to Amarok04:50
xainI normally run XPSP3....04:50
DaSkreechkuaera: I know there are immedieate problems with Koffice and Kontact but I'm confident they will be addressed and fairly shortly04:51
DaSkreechWhat's the issue you have with Kopete?04:51
kuaeraDaSkreech: They're having some collection issues, but it's otherwise very strong. [Amarok 2]04:51
xainBut i woud like to get Linux to run the way i want it to for the fact i can do all the thing's i ever wanted to on XP but it's pre-installed in linux.04:51
PSiL0DaSkreech: 1) kdm does not terminate during the shutdown process, thus hanging it up; 2) kwin not-responding/blocking some firefox functionality that is extremely important to me; 3) dolphin still painfully slow (despite what the devs say) when managing my imaging experiments04:51
DaSkreechPSiL0: Wait. Ever?04:51
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DaSkreechKDM never terminates? Everytiem you shutdown?04:52
xainPSiLO: Believe it or not.04:52
PSiL0DaSkreech: Yeah kdm never responds to the term signal during the shutdown process.. yup04:52
kuaeraDaSkreech: Well, no MSN support, for one. Also, it's method of integrating contacts into your list and establishing metacontacts is excessively clunky04:52
DaSkreechPSiL0: That's pretty bad. That means X is still up?04:52
PSiL0DaSkreech: this happened after installing ati catalyst 9.1, so I blame ati for that one... yeah, X remains up04:52
xainPSiLO: i have had a 63% performance reduction since i have changed from Ubuntu - Gnome over to Kubuntu - KDE.04:52
DaSkreechCan You check how much CPU X is using when that happens?04:52
kuaeraDaSkreech: The "cannot add yourself to your own list" bug has been around for about a year and a half.04:53
xainMSN support - AMSN.04:53
xainWell, Chat client atleast,.04:53
DaSkreechkuaera: How would you like it to integrate your contacts into the list?04:53
PSiL0xain: As much as I would like to say that I champion Gnome's mantra of simplicity, I literally puked when using Gnome for over an hour on a fresh Fedora 10 install04:53
PSiL0;)04:53
DaSkreechPSiL0: hope you wiped your keyboard04:54
PSiL0DaSkreech: I meant to say figuratively, hehe..04:54
xainI said performance...04:54
xainNot eye candy. ^^04:54
DaSkreechPSiL0: I'm almost certain you can turn off whatever kwin is blocking in firefox so that should be alright04:54
kuaera<= doesn't use KWin04:55
DaSkreechPSiL0: What is painfully slow ?04:55
DaSkreechkuaera: Good for you04:55
kuaeraDaSkreech: I'm uncertain. "Properties" isn't the right place for "Contact List integration"04:55
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PSiL0DaSkreech: Navigating through directories where my experiments are located, 2gigs worth of tiff stacks in each one04:56
xainWell....04:56
xainBAck to window's for me. : /04:56
kuaeraDaSkreech: In any dialog where photos are used next to names, a 50% image size border is around all of the photos, taking up massive real estate04:56
PSiL0DaSkreech: dolphin in kde 4.2.0 soon comes to a halt after navigating through two directories, like it is saying, "no mas!"04:57
kuaeraDaSkreech: Re: KWin: Openbox + xcompmgr04:57
DaSkreechPSiL0: Turn off previews?04:58
PSiL0DaSkreech: Yeah, I turned off previews and the information panel..whereas, when I use konqueror, transferring and managing files flies...04:58
Angelus_DelapsusOk i'll make this as specific as possible. Running the latest version of Kubuntu. On boot, Plasma Desktop crashes (Sig 11) and KDE GUI refuses to boot. Trying to download Gnome... is there any way to fix this?04:59
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DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: remove your Plasma configs?04:59
kuaeraAngelus_Delapsus: Latest = Intrepid or Jaunty?05:00
DaSkreechPSiL0: hmm interesting. Did you file a bug?05:00
PSiL0DaSkreech: As for kwin, the funny thing is that the aforementioned mouse gesture returns after turning off compositing.. However, after turning it back on, the problem pops back up, even when using xrender instead of opengl05:00
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Angelus_DelapsusKuera: Intrepid.05:00
Angelus_DelapsusDaSkreech: Can't touch anything outside of terminal and Konqueror window. Anything else crashes05:00
Angelus_DelapsusNo taskbar, no panels05:00
PSiL0DaSkreech: *sigh* I guess I have to do that in order to get a more tangible, workable response...no offense intended to you, mind you05:00
mefisto__PSiL0: have you tried removing/renaming dolphin config files from .kde ?05:01
Angelus_DelapsusI have some knowledge of terminal commands but not enough to run an entire fix from the terminal05:01
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DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: Yeah I know. before you login jump to a VT and mkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup05:01
DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: Then login05:01
PSiL0mefisto__: I did once awhile ago due to the same problem, but it came back soon thereafter05:02
DaSkreechPSiL0: Well maybe none of the developers have that kind of environment to deal with. So they have never had that happen so they don't know it needs fixing05:02
Angelus_DelapsusDaSkreech: Alright.... brb.05:02
mefisto__PSiL0: sounds like something to mention if you file a bug report05:02
DaSkreechPSiL0: Sounds a lot like a cache problem05:02
mefisto__PSiL0: might be interesting to compare the bad config with a fresh one that works05:03
PSiL0mefisto__:  True, I try again and save my dolphin configs first before clearing them..05:04
PSiL0mefisto__:  True, I should try again and save my dolphin configs first before clearing them..05:04
PSiL0DaSkreech:  I guess none of the devs conduct imaging experiments, huh? ;)05:05
DaSkreechPSiL0: probably not :)05:05
PSiL0One experiment alone generates 700MB of tifs05:06
mefisto__PSiL0: and konqueror shows the previews ok?05:06
DaSkreechReminds me of a Pyschology research center looking at MMORPGS to see the interactions05:07
DaSkreechasked for Everquest 2 logs and when they turned up it was 60TB of files05:07
PSiL0mefisto__: I don't have previews on for either konqueror or dolphin05:07
DaSkreechUmmmm ok05:07
PSiL0If I want pics, I just run my picasa ;)05:07
DaSkreechThat's a bit more than we thought we would have :)05:07
DaSkreechPSiL0: Digikam would be interesting to run with that05:08
PSiL0hmmm, it is good in previewing stacked tiffs, which each having at least 140 images?05:08
DaSkreechWell it's built for large volume data05:08
PSiL0I just imagej, very fast in image process and analysis.. opensource and runs on java05:09
DaSkreechso should be interesting to see how it handles it05:09
PSiL0ahh, more like a stress test, lol05:09
DaSkreechkuaera: That's A kwin issue?05:09
PSiL0oh yeah, fourth issue I have with kde 4.2.0 is that resuming after suspending a session to RAM seems more of a crapshoot than 4.1.3 & 4.1.405:10
mefisto__PSiL0: is it possible to remove catalyst without removing fglrx?05:10
PSiL0mefisto__: That I don't know...05:10
PSiL0mefisto__:  Actually, I would interested in downgrading from 9.1(8.573) to x.x(8.553).. I guess I have to remove everything associated with ati and fglrx and apt-get install from the repos05:11
PSiL0would interested = would be interested05:12
DaSkreechYeah pretty sure you just swap out the modules05:13
mefisto__PSiL0: I wonder if installing catalyst from the ubuntu deb would do that...05:13
PSiL0mefisto__:  ohh, I installed 9.1 from ati's site.. the repos don't have it yet.. remember, bleeding edge..05:14
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PSiL0*sigh* live by the sword, die by the sword..05:14
Angelus_DelapsusDaSkreech: You still here?05:14
mefisto__PSiL0: yes but there is a catalyst deb in official repos, isn't there? an old one, I mean05:14
Angelus_Delapsusmefisto: DaSkreech still here? Unfortunately I'm having to run irc through the terminal05:15
PSiL0mefisto__:  ahhhh.. sorry.. Yeah, there is a catalyst deb in the official repos... just not the supposed latest and greatest.. I guess I installed 9.1 to see if ati fixed the video flickering issue, which it did... somewhat...05:15
DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: Not sure why that's unfortunate :)05:16
Angelus_DelapsusOhhh05:16
Angelus_DelapsusDS: Because I don't see a user list05:16
mefisto__PSiL0: but did catalyst fix it, or fglrx? do they get installed together?05:16
PSiL0mefisto__: oh, I think catalyst did since fglrx is for 3D rendering, no?05:17
PSiL0anyways, the 9.1 package contained newer versions of both catalyst and fglrx than the one found in the repos05:18
mefisto__PSiL0: I thought catalyst was just for tweaking driver settings, getting info easily, etc. I'm just guessing though, since it's possible to install just fglrx from repos without catalyst05:18
PSiL0mefisto__:  actually, I think one can.. I think I saw it from a guide..05:19
DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: Tab still works05:19
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DaSkreech!tab | Angelus_Delapsus05:19
ubottuAngelus_Delapsus: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:19
PSiL0anyways, I have to finish up some work from today.. thanks for hearing me out guys05:21
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DaSkreechPSiL0: Sure hopefully you can get some of that sorted right quick05:22
DaSkreechPSiL0: #kwin to check out the firefox issues05:22
PSiL0DaSkreech:  cool, thanks for the info05:22
Angelus_Delapsusmkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*plasmabkup05:23
PSiL0adios05:23
DaSkreechAh balls05:23
DaSkreechhe is missing a space05:23
macobasket?05:23
* maco fails at sports joke05:23
DaSkreechah I thought you were asking about basKet05:24
DaSkreechWhich totally rocks05:24
mefisto__DaSkreech: that's the notes one, right?05:24
DaSkreechyessir05:25
macoDaSkreech: you said "balls" so i said "basket"05:27
macoi havent tried basket05:27
macocan it do LaTeX?05:27
macoi know Tomboy has a LaTeX plugin, and I think Zim has it built in05:27
DaSkreechI would guess05:27
DaSkreechNothing techincal prevents it05:29
macowell i mean, does it have a way of inputting & interpreting LaTeX codes05:29
macothe Tomboy plugin uses imagemagick to convert LaTeX code into images05:29
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DaSkreechmaco: IIIII'm not sure I never really jumped into the laTex world05:33
StR|Sangreal!flicker05:40
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about flicker05:40
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StR|Sangreal!flickering05:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about flickering05:41
ockonal:)05:41
* DaSkreech chuckles05:42
StR|Sangrealahoj05:44
v3traehey guys, where does kde store the default background? i'd like to switch back to it05:44
StR|Sangrealpls what do i need to fully update my system to newest kernel, kde, ooo and so?05:44
StR|Sangreali think i have to add some repositories but dont know which05:45
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:45
DaSkreechv3trae: Should be in your listing for backgrounds05:45
v3traeDaSkreech: that defaults to my home directory =(05:45
v3traeDaSkreech: btw, nice to see you again, you've been gone for a while ;D05:45
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DaSkreechv3trae: You should have a drop down box with that as a choice.05:46
DaSkreechv3trae: yes I was05:46
v3traeDaSkreech: oh, wow, i'm an idiot, thank you05:46
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v3traeDaSkreech: awe crap, i'm looking for the gray scale version, i can't get my conky to go transparent so i just want it to match the background =/05:47
mefisto__v3trae: maybe the images you're looking for are in /usr/share/backgrounds/  if they're not in the dropdown list05:47
v3traemefisto__: i'll take a look05:48
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StR|Sangrealpls what can i do with the flickering align the right corner of my display and wherever else on launching new windows and applications?05:50
v3traemefisto__: backgrounds doesn't exist =/05:50
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Angelus_DelapsusAnyway... Would I be far off to assume that since it didn't work  it may be best to reinstall?05:52
StR|Sangrealhow can i instll xfce with all associated and related packages?05:53
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: can you rephrase?05:53
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: There is a fix in a repo provided by the kubuntu devs05:53
Angelus_Delapsusquit05:53
Angelus_Delapsusfind gnome05:53
DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: You were missing a space05:53
StR|Sangrealand what is it?05:54
Angelus_DelapsusCrap... Where?05:54
DaSkreechI saw it right before you quit05:54
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop    will install xfce and its default apps05:54
DaSkreechin between the last * and plasmabkup05:54
Angelus_DelapsusKay05:54
DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: Didn't it spit an error?05:54
v3traeDoes anyone know where the grayscale version of Air (the default kde background) is saved?05:54
DaSkreechv3trae: not sure I recall there was a lot of different colours. Maybe it's in a extra package ?05:55
DaSkreechkubuntu-artwork or somesuch ?05:55
Angelus_DelapsusDS: Yes.. at first05:55
Angelus_DelapsusIt said that the path was already created05:55
v3traeDaSkreech: its the one used by default KDM in 4.2 i would assume its already here somewhere, i 'll give that a shot05:55
Angelus_DelapsusWhich of course didn't make sense.05:56
Angelus_DelapsusBut it wasn't a syntax error05:56
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StR|SangrealDaSkreech, what sort of fix and how do i get it?05:57
cybiov3trae: /usr/share/wallpapers/Air/contents/images/05:57
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: it fixes the visual garbage in Kubuntu and it's a deb05:58
DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: Ah05:58
DaSkreechAngelus_Delapsus: So it's a little better now?05:58
v3traecybio: there it is, thank you sir05:58
Angelus_DelapsusDS: I'm in IRC via shell terminal05:58
Angelus_DelapsusNot even logged in.05:58
StR|Sangrealplease tell me what to do to install it05:58
macoqt-designer's help thing wants me to have assistant-qt4 installed, but no such package name exists. what package contains that?05:59
Angelus_DelapsusStill working on it05:59
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StR|SangrealDaSkreech, please06:00
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DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: Ah umm hold on06:01
mefisto__maco: qt4-dev-tools ? "This packages contains tools used to assist in Qt 4 development, including the Qt Assistant, Linguist, D-Bus Viewer and Pixel Tool applications."06:03
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main add that repo06:03
StR|Sangrealanother thing06:03
DaSkreechand upgrade06:04
StR|Sangrealhow can i install msttcorefonts?06:04
StR|Sangreali always get *no route to host* as i install from aptitud06:05
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: hmm can you sudo apt-get update ?06:06
StR|Sangrealwell all is fine, just this package cannot be installed via aptitude06:07
StR|Sangrealcuz it contacts a third party apparently and the files dont seem to be there06:07
StR|Sangrealexcept that aptitude works i have just dl.ed xfce so its ok06:08
DaSkreechHmm06:08
StR|Sangreali mean the microsoft truetype core fonts06:09
StR|Sangrealand i dont know how to get them :/06:09
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DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: I think there is a package for the corefonts06:13
StR|Sangrealthere is one called msttcorefonts present in kubuntu-restricted-extras ... however as i said i cant download it from aptitude and dont know any other source or substitute06:14
DaSkreechpackages.ubuntu.com06:15
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts             same error?06:16
StR|Sangrealyes06:17
StR|Sangrealwhy doesnt it want to upgrade my kernel although it finds out that there is a newer release available06:17
StR|Sangreal?06:17
StR|SangrealNasledovné balíky sa ponechajú v súčasnej verzii:06:18
StR|Sangreal  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic06:18
StR|Sangreal  linux-restricted-modules-generic06:18
DaSkreechmaybe you have a network error?06:19
StR|Sangreal== these packages are intentilnally left on the previous version06:19
StR|Sangreal==why?06:19
StR|Sangrealwell i can install all other things as i said06:19
glencarbonildual boot grub question. 40gb win xp wants default . 20 gb ubuntu 8.04 wants to be able to remove this drive and still boot wp.06:19
glencarbonilxp06:20
DaSkreechglencarbonil: What wants?06:23
mefisto__just what I was thinking06:23
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: Maybe they are pinned in aptitude?06:23
StR|Sangrealno clue06:24
StR|Sangrealbut the same is for apt and adept06:24
glencarbonildascreech I want to be able to remove my 20 gb disk with ubuntu on it and still boot the 40gb xp disk06:24
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StR|Sangrealnow you mean those not updated packages?06:25
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts06:25
DaSkreechglencarbonil: Do you have a XP CD?06:27
mefisto__glencarbonil: remove permanently? or you want to be able to remove and reconnect the ubuntu disk?06:27
DaSkreechglencarbonil: Where is Grub? is it on the 40 or the 20 ?06:27
glencarbonilnow grub is on a grub boot cd that is the only way i can boot ubuntu now06:28
glencarbonili fdisk /mbr 40 gig so it boots xp fine06:29
DaSkreechOh then just take out the ubuntu drive everything shoudl still work06:29
glencarbonilyes its good like that06:29
StR|Sangrealsame error no route to host and then font files are not regisered06:29
glencarbonili was trying to install grub on the windows disk06:29
mefisto__glencarbonil: put grub on the xp disk06:29
glencarbonilhow06:29
mefisto__!grub06:29
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:29
glencarbonilok thanks06:30
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mefisto__glencarbonil: you might need to create a /boot partition on the xp disk06:32
Andrew``hey all06:33
Andrew``does anyone here use an Ipod on Kubuntu?06:33
mefisto__glencarbonil: another option is to use windows to choose what to boot. not sure exactly how to do that, but I've seen howtos06:34
StR|Sangrealhow can i please upgrade to:06:35
StR|Sangreal-kernel .2806:35
StR|Sangreal-kde 4.206:35
StR|Sangreal-OOo 3.01 slovak (i have currently 2.4)06:35
StR|Sangreal-amarok 206:35
StR|Sangrealsince i dont get it with the regular system upgrade or distro upgrade06:35
reanimationhello kubuntu06:35
abadr_hey, thanks guys, the links you gave me fixed my audio problems. I now have sound again...06:36
CybioStR|Sangreal: install Jaunty :-)06:36
StR|Sangrealwhat is jaunty?06:36
StR|Sangreal!jaunty06:36
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.06:36
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: kde 4.2: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.206:37
CybioStR|Sangreal: the next kubuntu which comes out probably in April06:37
abadr_am I the only one who hates these code names? hardy, edgy, jaunty, ....06:37
StR|Sangrealaha... i have no lust to reinstall my system again and fix zillions of bugs as i have to do now06:37
StR|Sangrealis there a simple explanation how they invent them?06:37
StR|Sangrealok i will reboot and wonder what happens... thanks for help so far06:39
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: .28 is probably not going to be there for Ibex KDE 4.2 is in the topic OOo 3.o is from openoffice.org's repo Amraok 2 is called amarok-kde4 I think06:40
DaSkreechabadr_: call them 8.10 9.10 then06:40
StR|Sangrealpackage amarok-kde4 doesnt exist06:41
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: openoffice 3: add this to /etc/apt/sources.list : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main   and update/upgrade06:41
StR|Sangrealwhy are the names of distros as they are?06:42
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: for amarok 2: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main06:42
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/adamspain/ubuntu intrepid main06:42
DaSkreechargh06:42
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.006:42
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: because the dictator says so06:43
StR|Sangreali am sorry i just have no mention of that in my adept06:43
mefisto__abadr_: I like those names, but don't like "intrepid"06:45
CybioStR|Sangreal: maybe you can try to install packages from a terminal instead of using adept.06:45
DaSkreechMention of what?06:47
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abadr_I actually don't mind the names themselves, it's just that the regular users forgets which name is which version. I do all the time. these names may have a place in the development community but not ‪in the public06:50
mefisto__abadr_: they're alphabetically ordered. it's easy isn't it?06:51
DaSkreechDebian's code names are much harder to sequence06:51
CybioDaSkreech: Not if you just use Sid :-)06:53
DaSkreech:-)06:53
CybioSId will always be Sid06:53
DaSkreechKubuntu doesn't have a Sid06:53
CybioUbuntu was made of Sid06:54
DaSkreechWas06:54
CybioI think there is still a close connection between the 206:55
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DaSkreechThere is06:56
DaSkreechBut Ubuntu is no longer Sid and there is no Sid repo for ubuntu06:56
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CybioThere is no Sid repo because Ubuntu is Sid including some Ubuntu packages + some eyecandy06:57
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StR|Sangrealdont see any improvements with graphics...06:58
mefisto__StR|Sangreal: improvements after what?07:00
DaSkreechCybio: yes but there is no place to get "the new stuff" you are either in release which is heavily locked down or in +1 which mostly locked down07:01
macoum...anyone ever see kmail just start scrolling down through their inbox, refusing to scroll back up when you tell it to with the mouse, and making some stuff disappear as it goes through?07:03
mefisto__maco: key stuck on your keyboard?07:04
CybioDaSkreech: ... True the release phylosophy from (k)Ubuntu is totally different then how it goes in Debian. I had Sid running for a long time and ones in a while just needed to do a dist-upgrade to get a load of new stuff ... In Kubuntu i need to re-install a complete new distribution07:04
DaSkreechCybio: Well you can just dist-upgrade to the new distro07:06
CybioDaSkreech: i have tried that 2 times ... both without succes: got a lot of bugs07:07
wrinkliezis there a way you can get facebook chat working in knoqueror?07:07
wrinkliezsomehow? -_-07:07
willdemon2Hello07:08
DaSkreechwrinkliez: Webkit kpart?07:09
DaSkreech!hi07:09
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:09
willdemon2what would the ubuntu equal be of limewire?07:09
wrinkliezDaSkreech: ill try that, thanks07:09
DaSkreech!limewire07:09
ubottulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !Java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.07:09
DaSkreech!frostwire07:10
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:10
willdemon2kubuntu newbe07:10
willdemon2I c said the blind man07:10
willdemon2thank you07:10
willdemon2noted! : )07:11
DaSkreechWelcome to Kubuntu07:11
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willdemon2thank you all. GN07:13
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DaSkreechNight07:15
Cybionight :-)07:16
mefisto__I'm looking for ctrl+left/right arrow to jump to prev/next word in keyboard settings. anyone know where it is?07:16
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DaSkreechWhich app?07:17
mefisto__in systemsettings. used to be a global shortcut in hardy, can't find it in kde4 settings07:18
mefisto__DaSkreech: eg, it worked in konversation, text editors, konsole07:18
DaSkreechmefisto__: oh that's ctrl+,. now07:18
DaSkreechDon't know why that changed but that's what it is for everything now07:19
mefisto__DaSkreech: doesn't work for me. in konversation, it switches tabs. kate, nothing. konsole, nothing07:21
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DaSkreechkonversation isn't KDE407:21
DaSkreechKate seems to use alt+Back and forward07:22
StR|SangrealDaskreech, it doesnt seem like your hint with graphic *garbage* fixing has worked07:28
listerhi07:29
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DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: Sorry :( I tried07:29
StR|Sangrealpls whats the name of package so that i can check if i really have it installed or not07:30
mefisto__DaSkreech: very weird. I accidentally did ctrl-alt-backspace while looking for key shortcuts that do what I want, now everything responds to ctrl+left/right arrow as I am used to07:31
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DaSkreechmefisto__: strange07:39
mefisto__can I save a kde session from terminal?07:40
DaSkreechsure07:41
mefisto__how do I save a kde session from terminal?07:43
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DaSkreechksmserver I should think07:48
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mefisto__dbus-send --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession  (to be specific)07:58
DaSkreech:-D07:59
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sillecan anyone tell me how one would play movie fiels (avi) with subtitle file.  is there a particular player that is intended formovie+subtitles?08:03
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norenhello all, i have a unique problem08:10
mefisto__sille: kaffeine does subtitles. mplayer does. probably vlc too08:10
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norenyestarday i upgraded my kde to kde4.2 and then amarok to amarok 2, now i dont have any sound in any media players but the amarok is running fine , any advice pleassse08:11
sillemefisto__: so how do i open these files to play movie+subtitle.  do i just start the movie and subtitle automatic?08:12
timjhello, im using kubuntu 3.5.10 and am unable to hear sound in headphones08:13
mefisto__sille: not sure exactly. never done it before myself. but kaffeine has a subtitles submenu in the player menu. maybe if the subtitles file is in the same dir it will autoload?08:13
timjalso kmix application does not come up08:13
timji think there is a problem with sound in general08:14
timjany way to fix this ?08:14
sillemefisto__: will mess with it some more... thx08:14
norenis there any howto to fix this problem08:16
mefisto__!sound08:17
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:17
mefisto__ignore what ubottu says about ARTS if you're using kde 408:18
timjok08:19
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timjWhen i run aplay -l, it says no soundcard found...is it that Kubuntu is not recognizing my soundcard ?..any modules to install for that ?08:22
abrahamhi08:22
abrahamsomeone can help me?08:22
abrahamalguien me puede ayudar?08:23
abrahamplease08:23
DaSkreech!pt08:23
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.08:23
DaSkreechabraham: What's the issue?08:23
abrahami have to now how to instal smeting08:23
abrahamim newbie08:24
DaSkreechtimj: what's sudo lshw -C Audio say ?08:24
DaSkreechabraham: sudo apt-get install <programname>08:24
abrahamok08:24
abrahamlet me try08:24
dim3dro1hi all08:24
dim3dro1can anyone help me with wvdial?08:24
mefisto__timj: replace Audio with Multimedia if you get nothing08:25
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dim3dro1I have 3g pcmcia modem Option 3.6 GT Max08:25
abraham& were i execute that command?08:25
abrahamsudo apt-get install08:25
dim3dro1here's my wvdial.conf:08:25
dim3dro1[Dialer Defaults]08:25
dim3dro1Init1 = ATZ08:26
dim3dro1Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=008:26
dim3dro1Modem Type = USB Modem08:26
dim3dro1ISDN = 008:26
dim3dro1Phone = *99#08:26
dim3dro1Modem = /dev/ttyUSB008:26
DaSkreechabraham: sudo apt-get install then a program08:26
dim3dro1Username = ;08:26
dim3dro1Password = ;08:26
dim3dro1Baud = 960008:26
dim3dro1[Dialer utel]08:26
dim3dro1Init3 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","3g.utel.ua"08:26
mefisto__!paste | dim3dro108:26
ubottudim3dro1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:26
DaSkreechabraham: like sudo apt-get install firefox08:26
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timjmefisto__: lshw -C Audio, showed nothing , so i used lshw -C Multimedia,a nd then i get : *-multimedia UNCLAIMED08:27
timj       description: Audio device08:27
timj       product: 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller08:27
timj       vendor: Intel Corporation08:27
timj       physical id: 1b08:27
timj       bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.008:27
timj       version: 0208:27
timj       width: 64 bits       clock: 33MHz       capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list      configuration: latency=008:27
abrahamok but were i execute that08:27
mefisto__oh no08:27
DaSkreech!intelhda08:27
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto08:27
jussi01!pastebin | timj08:28
ubottutimj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:28
DaSkreechabraham: What are you trying to install?08:28
abrahamfirefox08:28
timjubottu : ok08:28
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)08:28
dim3dro1my wvdial.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119571/08:28
DaSkreechabraham: sudo apt-get install firefox08:29
abrahamok let me try08:29
dim3dro1here's output from my console: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119573/08:30
timjok ..the output i got for lshw -C Multimedia is http://paste.ubuntu.com/119574/08:31
dim3dro1here's part of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119575/08:31
abrahamDaScrech: do you speack spanish?08:31
timjdoes it mean i have Intel soundcard, and i now need to install some drivers to make it work ?08:33
mefisto__timj: does cat /proc/asound/modules  show anything? if not, look at the link from ubottu about intel HDA sound  ^^08:33
DaSkreech!es | abraham08:34
ubottuabraham: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.08:34
mefisto__timj: actually, look at that link either way08:34
timjmefisto__; alright08:34
abrahamtnkz :)08:35
timjmefisto__: sorry, im kinda new to irc, so by channel topic do u mean https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ ?08:37
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DaSkreechtimj: They mean what you see when you type /topic08:38
mefisto__!intelhda | timj08:38
ubottutimj: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto08:38
timjubottu : k, thanks, ill check that out08:38
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:38
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doktoreashow can I hide attachement window in kmail?08:44
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jinnnI have problem upgrading kde to 4.208:47
jinnndpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb (--unpack):08:48
jinnn trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin08:48
jinnndpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)08:48
jinnnnow Konqueror cannot even open a webpage08:48
DaSkreechinstall kdeworkspace-bin first08:51
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timjthanks everyone , sound is working now :)08:53
mefisto__good work timj08:53
timjmefisto__: thank you :)08:54
abraham!jp08:57
ubottu日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい08:57
hanseldHello to all of you.09:09
abraham"es09:09
abraham!es09:09
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.09:09
hanseldI have a problem with KDE 4.2 release on my Ubuntu 8.10 installation.09:09
ActionParsnip1hanseld: ask away09:10
hanseldI have some links/docs on my Desktop (Desktop folder).09:10
hanseldIf I right-click on such an icon to get the properties of that item I could see that KDE tell me about an error (I think it was a SIGKILL event) and then restart the Desktop display.09:13
hanseldI would not be logged out. But the complete Desktop display area is blanked out and displayed again.09:14
hanseldI can recreate this problem each time (even after reboot of the whole Ubuntu).09:15
ActionParsnip1hanseld: are you fully updated?09:16
hanseldYes. I am using the kubuntu-experimental repository in addition to the official repos. Each time I got notification about new updates I will install them.09:17
ActionParsnip1hanseld: the experimental repos may be causing the issue09:18
hanseldIs there a plan/date when KDE 4.2 will be provided by the stable repos (i.e. not experimental)?09:19
hanseldfor ubuntu 8.10...09:19
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ActionParsnip1http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.209:19
mefisto__hanseld: jaunty 9.04, in 2009, 04 (April)09:20
hanseldRight. Am I right that KDE 4.2 release will be available for 8.10 as non-experimental? At the moment KDE 4.1.4 is available in the non-experimental repository.09:23
Tm_Thanseld: well be in backports09:23
Tm_Ts/well/will/09:23
hanseldTm_T, you mean the backports I can enable in the Software Sources dialog. Right?09:26
Tm_Thanseld: yes09:26
Tm_Thanseld: it's not there yet, but will be when ready09:27
hanseldTm_T, great.09:27
SuperHouseHow would I get the larger text to 'save' in Konsole ?09:27
SuperHouseinstead of me having to do it each time09:27
hanseldThank you, Tm_T and ActionParsnip1.09:27
ActionParsnip1hanseld: after the error, try reading dmesg | tail09:27
SuperHouse(enlarge it)09:27
Tm_TSuperHouse: save the session09:27
Tm_TSuperHouse: save/edit09:27
SuperHouseTm_T: how09:27
Tm_TSuperHouse: menu: Settings -> Edit current profile09:28
hanseldActionParsnip1, good idea. Thanks for this. I will do it and come back if there are interesting information.09:28
hanseldCU then.09:28
hanseldbye.09:28
ActionParsnip1simple question for you guys, If I use the minimal ISO, Can I so a server install?09:29
SuperHouseTm_T: I don't see that09:30
SuperHouseTm_T: never mind, "save as default" got it09:31
SuperHouseHow would I uninstall the gnome desktop after not liking ubuntu-desktop ?09:31
ActionParsnip1!purekde09:31
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »09:31
smTdustanyone comfortable with madwifi drivers?09:32
ActionParsnip1Is there any difference in the Ubuntu Server kernel to the desktop kernel?09:32
SuperHouseOh yeah, and like Gnome, is it possible for the screen saver to start when you lock the computer?09:33
ActionParsnip1SuperHouse: why not just turn off the monitor?09:34
ActionParsnip1SuperHouse: electricitysaver > screensaver09:34
SuperHouseActionParsnip1: require effort09:34
ActionParsnip1hardly09:34
SuperHouseplus the screen is still displaye09:35
SuperHoused09:35
SuperHouseif turned on09:35
mefisto__ubottu's links and info are getting kinda outdated09:35
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:35
ubuntu_hi, any one has problem upgrading to kde 4.2?09:37
ActionParsnip1none here09:37
ubuntu_I did a fresh install of kubuntu and followed the guide of the site to upgrade and I got broken pipe09:37
matt1_after yesterdays update (intrepid) i can no longer log in on any users, had to create a new user09:37
ActionParsnip1ubuntu_: you could try reinstalling the package09:37
ubuntu_I did try apt-get -f install to fix09:38
ubuntu_that also failed09:38
ActionParsnip1matt1_: try dropping to recovery root console and chowning the folders for their relative user, and grant 755 chmod for each also09:38
ashishnaickerhello room09:39
ActionParsnip1!hi | ash09:39
ubottuash: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:39
ActionParsnip1!hi | ashishnaicker09:39
ubottuashishnaicker: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:39
ashishnaickerhi09:39
matt1_ActionParsnip1: cheers - I'll give that a go09:40
mefisto__ubuntu_: can you pastebin the error when you apt-get upgrade ?09:40
ashishnaickeri am having a problem with opera09:40
ubuntu_mefisto__: no, I am reinstalling at this moment09:40
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ubuntu_mefisto__:  here is exatly what I did09:40
mefisto__ubuntu_: ok09:40
ubuntu_added the repo and the key then apt-get update and upgrade09:40
mefisto__ubuntu_: then you gave up and reinstalled everything?09:43
SuperHouseNetsplit : irc.freenode.net go BOOOOOOOOOOOM from bartol.freenode.net 341 BOOOOOMers in all the splits i have seen.09:43
ubuntu_opensuse is the only distro shipping kde 4.2 right now.09:43
ubuntu_mefisto__: yes :(09:43
ubuntu_mefisto__:  not only that, after that error, I can't even open a webpage09:44
ubuntu_I lost windows border etc09:44
SuperHousemy god this is taking forever to remove ubuntu's stuff09:44
SuperHousethere it goes09:45
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SuperMetalHow would I set something to auto start , such as in gnome there is 'sessions' (spelling)10:24
SuperMetalwhere I was able to put in /usr/bin/pidgin10:24
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mefisto__SuperMetal: systemsettings > advanced > autostart10:25
SuperMetalI'm not seeing autostart there10:26
mefisto__SuperMetal: do you have intrepid?10:27
SuperMetalmefisto__: no10:27
mefisto__so what do you have installed?10:28
mefisto__SuperMetal: if you're not sure: lsb_release -a10:31
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SuperMetalmefisto__: Hardy10:41
SuperMetal8.04.0210:42
SuperMetaluh 210:43
SuperMetalnot that that matters10:43
mefisto__SuperMetal: don't know if it's installed by default in hardy, but sudo apt-get install kcontrol-autostart10:44
mefisto__SuperMetal: once it's installed, start Kcontrol and find "autostart manager" or just type "kcmshell autostart"10:45
SuperMetalok, now for some strange reason I have no sound in pidin10:48
SuperMetalafter I removed all of the ubuntu-desktop packages10:49
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mefisto__SuperMetal: pidgin uses some of what you removed. just reinstall pidgin to make sure you have all its dependencies10:50
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: sudo apt-get --reinstall install pidgin10:52
ActionParsnip1!startup | SuperMetal10:52
ubottuSuperMetal: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot10:52
||arifaXhi is someone using gmailfs? Works allright here but cannot list any files in the mountpoint. is this by design or do I something wrong?10:53
SuperMetalActionParsnip1: still didn't give me sound10:54
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: do sounds work in other apps/10:55
SuperMetalActionParsnip1: yes10:55
SuperMetalXMMS works fine, Virtualbox, etc10:55
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: in the prefs where you select sounds for pidgin, do the previews work?10:55
SuperMetalno10:56
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: if you browse where those files are held, can you play them yourself?10:56
SuperMetalActionParsnip1: how do I know where they are at10:57
ActionParsnip1tools menu on main window   is mute all sounds selected?10:58
ActionParsnip1its at the bottom10:58
* ActionParsnip1 plays a drumroll10:58
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: and then if you go to the sounds tab, is mute sounds selected there10:59
SuperMetalno, as I said when I click "preview" they don't play10:59
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: if you change the sound method from automatic to whatever system you use this may help10:59
SuperMetalI have it on ALSA11:00
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: are any mute check boxes selected11:00
mefisto__SuperMetal: did you restart pidgin after reinstalling it?11:00
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: try it on automatic, just to test11:00
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: and what mefisto__ said11:00
SuperMetalnone of the sounds work, and all say (default)11:00
SuperMetalyes11:00
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: did you check the mute things, alsa is a good choice, i find pulse to be a bit twitchy11:01
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SuperMetalActionParsnip1: there is no mutes11:01
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: cool11:02
ActionParsnip1ok, if you set the sound to one of the songs on your system, does it play ok?11:02
ActionParsnip1like some random mp311:02
SuperMetalno11:03
SuperMetalit doesn't play11:03
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-602508.html11:03
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: you could try closing pidgin completely and renaming ~/.purple then relaunching to get a stock profile for pidgin11:03
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: you will have to reset up your accounts but its a good test, you can rename back if you gain nothing but you will have further knowledge11:04
SuperMetalstill no sounds11:06
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: did you rename the folder to test?11:07
SuperMetalYes11:07
mefisto__SuperMetal: installing mplayer (especially if you had it installed before) might magically make things work. it's happened to me11:07
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SuperMetalsmplayer is already the newest version11:07
SuperMetalaplay %s works11:09
SuperMetalfor a command11:09
SuperMetalI guess that's good enough11:10
glow_wolfHow do i view my pc hardware in 8.10 i cant find any thing in help11:10
SuperMetalI guess I can rename .goattypurple back to .purple11:11
mefisto__glow_wolf: what do you want? a gui with hardware info?11:13
glow_wolfYes11:13
glow_wolflike in 8.411:14
mefisto__glow_wolf: sudo apt-get install kinfocenter11:14
mefisto__glow_wolf: then find kinfocenter in the menu11:14
SuperMetaloh yeah, what's a burning program ?11:14
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: yes, you can rename back after removing the new one and closing pidgin completely11:14
SuperMetalwhile I'm at it11:14
glow_wolfthanks11:14
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: I always have a rollback clause11:14
mefisto__SuperMetal: k3b11:15
mefisto__SuperMetal: so you got sounds working in pidgin?11:16
cuzntmy bandwidth will not set in linuxdcpp11:17
SuperMetalmefisto__: yes, with aplay %s11:17
cuzntmy port for it is open. as others can get my files and fast. but i can not get theirs, NOR can i control my b/w11:18
ujsdsjfnname jwozniak11:18
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josehello11:32
josecan you help me?11:33
josei am trying to...11:34
jussi01jose: do tell what your trying to do... then we can tell you if we can help...11:38
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keldronahello guys... can't burn audio cds from .mp3s files with k3b. any idea?11:44
mefisto__keldrona: install libk3b3-extracodecs11:45
ActionParsnip1keldrona: konqueror cd rip cds too11:47
mefisto__ActionParsnip1: keldrona wants to make audiocds from mp3s11:48
mefisto__that konqueror feature is wonderful, btw :)11:48
keldronayes, when I'm listening to Dragonforce11:49
ActionParsnip1haha top genius is dragonforce11:50
keldronamefisto__ thanks, now it works! I can enjoy Dragonforce in my car11:50
* mefisto__ looks up dragonforce...11:51
mefisto__ah, video game metal11:51
ActionParsnip1mefisto__: pretty much, its fast and complex11:52
keldronamefisto__ it's a power metal band from England11:52
* ActionParsnip1 like meshuggah :D11:53
keldronaSee you guys it's time for my daily Finnish lesson11:55
reanimationhey i am new here11:56
reanimationcan anybody tell me what is kubuntu ?11:56
reanimation#ubuntu -in11:57
bazhangreanimation, its an OS11:59
reanimationwhich type of os12:00
ActionParsnip1that looked fun12:08
SuperMetalso is there anyway to run the screen saver when the screen is locked?12:12
SuperMetalOr perhaps to run the screensaver12:12
DreadKnightSuperMetal: you can do that with kde4.2 at least12:12
ActionParsnip1SuperMetal: look in systemsettings, see what the screensaver says it can do12:12
DreadKnightSuperMetal: systemsettings/desktop/screensaver12:13
DreadKnightSuperMetal: and you have a checkbox for locking down there12:13
SuperMetalDreadKnight: Correct, however I don't see a way to make it in to a short cut to run the screen saver12:14
SuperMetalsuch as ctrl + alt + l12:14
SuperMetalto lock the screen12:14
DreadKnighthmm12:14
DreadKnighti think i understand what you want12:15
SuperMetalyes, I want it to function like gnome12:15
SuperMetaland bring up the screen saver when locked12:15
DreadKnightgood suggestion12:15
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mefisto__can't you lock the screen from the menu?12:20
mefisto__locking it should bring up whatever screensaver you have set12:22
mefisto__ctrl-alt-L works too. am I missing something?12:25
alexandrehey12:25
josehello12:25
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SuperMetali see the problem12:26
SuperMetalthe screen saver actually isn't working12:26
SuperMetalthere, i changed to another one and it works12:27
josesupermetal are you talking to me?12:27
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mefisto__is that a de niro impression?12:29
ActionParsnip1hhehe12:32
ActionParsnip1is he talking italian?12:33
ActionParsnip1and waiting :D:D12:33
Dr_willisNo Hoblo.12:33
Dr_willisthats weird.. I enter a item to serach for in the little search box at the top right of firefox and i get some error dialog box.12:34
Dr_willisASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!12:35
Dr_willisnot sure if its a google issue.. or firefox issue.12:36
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: let me websearch12:37
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/21246512:37
Dr_willisyea the searches work after i get rid of the dialog box12:37
Dr_willisdoes it on google and yahoo12:38
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=101182512:38
mefisto__Dr_willis: did firefox just get upgraded?12:38
Dr_willisNot sure.. i did some updates last night12:38
ActionParsnip1I created a new profile, navigated to Mycroft search engine project: http://mycroft.mozdev.org/, added Google-US search, and copied google-us.xml to the search plugins folder of the broken profile.12:39
mefisto__stop firefox, make sure it's not still running, then start it again12:39
shadeslayerhi i just ran an update and kosole gave me a error,ill paste in  a sec12:40
mefisto__sudo killall firefox12:40
Dr_willisi think the download window was counting as firefox being 'open' :)12:40
ActionParsnip1haaha classic12:40
Dr_willisand it was on another desktop12:40
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ActionParsnip1is there a 64bit tar.bz2 on the mozilla site for firefox, i'm trying to get rid all this gnome fluff it insists on bringing along12:41
darksmokehey guys is there something like cmake-gui for normal configure scripts ?12:42
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/119655/12:42
shadeslayerany idea if the update is messed up and i should run it again??12:42
afeijoI'm trying to compact a current folder (no recursive) with tar, what would be the proper command? tar -c newfile . ?12:42
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: its fine12:44
mefisto__ActionParsnip1: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=517749&sid=87a7d6d385a9da72e250edeb70fe400712:44
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: mine does something like that but i ignore it, you could websearch one of them to see what causes it12:45
shadeslayerah ok12:45
shadeslayershould i re run the update??12:45
ActionParsnip1ty mefisto__12:46
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: you can but you are already updated12:46
shadeslayerok12:47
shadeslayerthanks12:47
drostieopen question: how would I get an application (specifically knetworkmanager) to start right after login?12:48
ActionParsnip1!startup12:48
ubottuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot12:48
drostieActionParsnip1: thanks. I'll try the autostart method.12:49
ActionParsnip1drostie: i use the symlink method, or a script in the same folder12:49
mefisto__I wish I could stop knetworkmanager from starting on every login12:51
ActionParsnip1mefisto__: uninstall it12:53
ActionParsnip1mefisto__: i think its garbage12:53
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mefisto__ActionParsnip1: heh, funny that never occurred to me12:54
ActionParsnip1another root logger oner, great :(12:54
altrortla#openoffice12:56
mefisto__apt thinks knetworkmanager is not installed12:56
drostieActionParsnip1: thank you so much! works like a dream. ^_^12:57
ActionParsnip1drostie: np bro12:57
altrortla!openoffice13:00
ubottua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org13:00
ActionParsnip1mefisto__: dpkg -l | grep manager13:01
ActionParsnip1!find networkmanager13:02
ubottuFound: knetworkmanager13:02
mefisto__the package was network-manager-kde13:04
mefisto__thanks ActionParsnip113:04
ActionParsnip1mefisto__: np bro13:05
numani am having problem with sound13:10
Tm_T!sound | numan13:11
ubottunuman: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:11
mefisto__what ever happened to konqueror's browser identification icon?13:15
ockonal_mefisto_: ?13:15
mefisto__ockonal_: in hardy, there is a button you can put on the toolbar, like user agent switcher. it's still in konqueror's settings, but no toolbar button as far as I can tell13:16
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DJ_Synergyhello again ... refly13:19
KORBEN_x64hi13:19
DJ_Synergymy konqueror connects to ftp but NOT to http13:19
DJ_Synergykopete works fine ... as you can see, koversation works fine ...13:20
DJ_Synergybut konqueror will not connect http-protocol13:20
DJ_Synergyplease help me ...13:21
Tm_TDJ_Synergy: how this "http not working" is tested?13:21
DJ_Synergyso .. as you can see, Konversation connects to irc ...13:21
DJ_Synergykopete connects to icq, aol, yahoo, ...13:22
DJ_Synergykonqueror connects to my ftp-server as well13:22
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DJ_Synergybut ... if i want to open http://www.google.de  .. i got a error-message13:22
Tm_TDJ_Synergy: try www.google.com13:23
Tm_TDJ_Synergy: or others13:23
DJ_Synergydowsn't work13:23
Tm_TDJ_Synergy: then, if still fails, try ping www.google.com13:23
DJ_Synergytried many pages ... but no connection13:23
DJ_Synergyok .. moment13:23
mefisto__DJ_Synergy: just konqueror, or any browser?13:23
DJ_Synergy64bytes13:24
DJ_Synergy64bytes13:24
DJ_Synergyping works13:24
DJ_Synergyi only got konqueror at the moment13:24
Tm_TDJ_Synergy: what is the final line when you ctrl+c ping?13:25
DJ_Synergyi'm using an UMTS-Connection with an HUAWEI-3G-Modem13:25
DJ_Synergymaybe that's a problem?13:25
bindaashellos,some how every thing has started to appear super small in kubutu intrepid,how can i go back to default setting13:26
DJ_Synergynobody here with an idea, what the problem is ???13:27
Dr_willisYou mean to say your resolution of the screen has gotten 'higher' thus making everything else  show up 'smaller' ? bindaas ?13:27
bindaasDr_Willis : yes13:28
DJ_Synergyso i am not an linux-newbie ... but an ubuntu-newbie :) ... and i don't know, why the konqueror is connecting my FTP ... but no http-sites13:28
Dr_willis!fixres13:29
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution13:29
KORBEN_x64i am using an UMTS 3G Huawei modem right now and it works fine13:29
bindaasDJ_Synergy: firewall may be blocking http port13:29
Dr_willisUsers can select their own resolutiion i recall from the controlpanel stuff13:29
bindaasDr_Willis : thanks for the pointer13:30
DJ_Synergyyeah korben .. it works fine for me too ... but konqueror connects to ftp but not to http ...13:30
DJ_Synergyconnected with KPPP ???13:30
KORBEN_x64network-manager13:30
KORBEN_x64not KPPP13:30
DJ_Synergyhmm .. maybe that's the point ???13:30
KORBEN_x64maybe13:30
* Dr_willis is confused13:31
DJ_Synergyhmm ...13:31
DJ_Synergyi will stard the network-manager13:31
KORBEN_x64i don't know... newbie with ubuntu too ;)13:31
DJ_Synergy^^13:31
KORBEN_x64but, try to install firefox from terminal with apt and see what happens ;)13:32
DJ_Synergyhow have you configured the meodem with network-manager ???13:32
KORBEN_x64"New broadband connection/and fill the settings from your provider" :)13:33
DJ_Synergyhehehe wich verison of ubuntu do you have ???13:33
DJ_SynergyxDDD13:33
KORBEN_x64intrepid13:33
DJ_Synergyi'v got kubunto 7.04   ^13:33
KORBEN_x64woops13:33
DJ_Synergythere is no such thing ^^13:33
KORBEN_x64i suggest you to move to intrepid :P13:34
DJ_Synergyok .. i should do ^13:34
KORBEN_x648.10 is my first ubuntu system so i don't know where you can configure your connection in 7.0413:34
DJ_Synergycan intrepid be installed from usb ???13:35
KORBEN_x64but, try my former suggestion... try to install firefox manually with apt, and check if it works right :)13:35
Dr_willisDJ_Synergy,  with the unetbootin tool. ive made usb-installable thumbdrives for all the ubuntu releases.. and many other distros13:35
ockonal_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87921213:35
ockonal_DJ_Synergy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87921213:35
ockonal_KORBEN_x64: what connection?13:36
DJ_Synergyok thx ... i will change to intrepid now ^13:36
ockonal_^_^13:36
DJ_Synergykorben ... with "sudo apt-get install firefox" ... adept will not find any package13:37
KORBEN_x64ockonal: a broadband umts-3g one... it seems he has something misconfigured and can't utilize http protocol with konqueror13:37
KORBEN_x64Synergy: first of all you should do a "sudo apt-get update"13:37
DJ_Synergyi've done13:37
KORBEN_x64mmh...13:38
KORBEN_x64interesting... :P13:38
DJ_Synergyupdated the list ... some servers does not answer but thats ok, right13:38
KORBEN_x64try with Iceweasel13:38
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DJ_Synergyapt-get install iceweasel ???13:39
KORBEN_x64yep13:39
Dr_willis!find iceweasle13:39
ubottuPackage/file iceweasle does not exist in intrepid13:39
Dr_willis!find iceweasel13:39
ubottuFound: iceweasel-scrapbook, iceweasel-vimperator13:39
Dr_willis:)13:39
DJ_Synergydon't find the package13:39
KORBEN_x64ubottu: he's utilizing 7.04, not intrepid13:39
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:39
DJ_Synergyand i also tried with wine now ... don't find package13:39
ActionParsnip1!info kazehakase13:40
ubottukazehakase (source: kazehakase): GTK+-base web browser that allows pluggable rendering engines. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4-2.1ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 652 kB, installed size 1856 kB13:40
KORBEN_x64it's estrange... they should be available... check your apt sources list13:40
KORBEN_x64strange13:41
KORBEN_x64not Estrange13:41
KORBEN_x64:P13:41
DJ_Synergyok .. so i've done a new update of list ...13:42
ActionParsnip1DJ_Synergy: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst13:42
DJ_Synergytrying iceweasel now13:42
mefisto__um, is 7.04 still supported?13:43
ActionParsnip1!7.0413:43
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 19th, 2008. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.13:43
KORBEN_x64i don't think so, mefisto :)13:43
Tm_Tis not13:43
ActionParsnip17.04 dead13:43
afeijohow can I use wget to download just *.png files in any folders in a http?]13:43
DJ_Synergyhmm .. i think i will update to intrepid13:44
shadeslayerhehe13:44
KORBEN_x64wise decission ;)13:44
DJ_Synergyi will just forget this holy crap with this connection ^13:44
DJ_Synergyit taked hopurs to set up the connection with kppp13:44
DJ_SynergyxDD13:44
KORBEN_x64it's seamless with intrepid13:45
KORBEN_x64:)13:45
DJ_Synergyok .. download intrepid now ... with my notebook ^13:45
KORBEN_x64i only had some issues with the sound card in my desktop computer... but it worked out of the box with my laptop :P13:45
Bauldricki still can't login to MY account after upgrdae yesterday - i have to console login and then issue startx, how can i fix that?13:46
KORBEN_x64your session manager is working? XDM or KDM or GDM13:46
drostieafeijo: type [man wget] into a konsole.13:46
Dr_willisthat is logging into your account :)    just not using kdm/gdm/xdm to login,.13:47
Dr_willistry a 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start' and see if any error messages show up from the console.13:47
mefisto__just noticed mouse scrolling works in man pages now13:48
Bauldrickits only my user that doesn't, i created another that works and the other user that was on there works also13:48
afeijodrostie: I am reading the manual, quite long, cant find it13:48
Dr_willisBauldrick,  so you mean to say that KDM starts, but this One user can not login via KDM ?13:48
BauldrickDr_willis: yes, thats it13:49
KORBEN_x64afeijo: http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Recursive-Retrieval-Options.html13:49
KryczekHi! I think I just found a "packaging-related issue" while trying to install KDE 4.2 on Intrepid:13:49
Kryczekdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb (--unpack):13:50
Kryczek trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin13:50
BauldrickDr_willis: after yesterdays update my hdd went to 100% (which has something to do with this im sure) but it should only be about 30 % full13:50
mefisto__Bauldrick: is your home dir, especially .kde, owned by you?13:50
Bauldrickmefisto__: i have since chown it and chmod 75513:50
afeijoKORBEN_x64: thanks, so its no possible what I want.13:51
norenahh about to complete my update to kde4.213:51
KORBEN_x64i don't know... try with curl, i think it has similar capabilities13:52
mefisto__Kryczek: can you install kdebase-workspace-bin first?13:52
Kryczekah... i tried apt-get remove'ing the 4.1.4 package first13:53
drostieafeijo: well, if you can get directory listings, you might be able to parse it through something that's regex-aware and then back into wget. But wget doesn't have regex-aware recursion.13:53
drostieafeijo: (or at least, that's what I can find from a cursory reading of the man page.)13:53
afeijofound! -A.png13:53
afeijothanks mates13:53
drostieheh, or that. never mind. ^_^13:54
afeijoa friend is doing nice 3d images to my online rpg game ;) I used wget to download jsut the images and .divx13:55
BauldrickI get some errors in xserver-errors - are these relevent ... http://pastebin.com/me55c55713:55
Dr_williswget '*.png'  - i thought worked... :)13:55
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ActionParsnip1yo yo yo14:01
Dr_willisOy Oy Oy!14:01
shadeslayer:)14:02
shadeslayeroy yo oy14:02
BluesKajahoy14:04
norenmy amarok2 gets hanged aaaat 75 percent of the collection building... what can i do to rectify tht14:04
drostienoren: figure out what file it's hanging on? (if it's one particular file.)14:05
norenhow can  i check tht14:06
mefisto__noren: I had that problem (a long time ago). it was a filename with unusual characters. renaming the file fixed it14:07
mefisto__noren: is your music collection from a windows disk?14:08
c0p3rn1ckhelpcenter is not working on ubuntu even not when I install the kde-desktop, this bug exists for olmost 2 years now : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/11846614:09
c0p3rn1cis there any way in fixing this ?14:09
norenno all my music files are on /home partition,, if checking the file name...whats the standard14:11
khalidmiancan someone help me with thi error message?14:11
khalidmianReading package lists... Done14:11
khalidmianW: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF14:11
Tm_Tkhalidmian: its only a warning, you can safely ignore it14:11
khalidmianty14:11
c0p3rn1chi ActionParsnip1, how are you ? :)14:12
khalidmianany clue how one can upgrade to kottrent 3.2 via sudo command?14:12
c0p3rn1cwhere do you get the time to help so many people ActionParsnip1? I wish I could do the same...14:13
ActionParsnip1c0p3rn1c: my job has a tonne of dead time so i ocupy myself here14:13
c0p3rn1cnice!14:13
c0p3rn1cActionParsnip1: what kind of job do you have?14:14
norenwwell is there any other way round to create the collection inn amarok214:14
ActionParsnip1c0p3rn1c: i babsit sql/citrix servers overnight and do a few backups14:14
Tm_T!ot | c0p3rn1c14:14
ubottuc0p3rn1c: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:14
c0p3rn1cTm_T: will do :)14:15
ActionParsnip1pm if you want duder14:15
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c0p3rn1cis there also a channel to talk about kubuntu bugs?14:20
BluesKajtrying to install kubuntu 8.10 on wife's vista pc using wubi (I don't feel like fooling around with the vista bootloader problems ) , buty her processor is 64 bit and the graphics driver available for that platform is terrible , so i'm trying to find a way to install 32 bit using wubi.  I've read some suggestions to like  "pass --32bit " when installing it , but I don't recall such an option. Her Vista is a factory installed 32 bit version.14:20
BluesKaj!launchpad14:20
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/14:20
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: what video card is it?14:20
BluesKajits the on nvidia GeForce 6150 nforce 430, ActionParsnip114:21
BluesKajonboard14:21
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: i have that card, its cool14:22
KORBEN_x64BluesKaj:14:22
KORBEN_x64Can I force Wubi to download and install a 32 bit version of Ubuntu?14:22
KORBEN_x64Yes, either pre-download the appropriate 32 bit ISO manually and place it in the same folder as Wubi.exe or start Wubi with the "--32bit" argument.14:22
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: is it an Asus Pundit?14:22
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: its supported by the 177 driver in intrepid :D14:22
khalidmianhi i have the following issue SystemError: E:Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist), E:The list of sources could not be re14:22
khalidmianhow can i edit sources.list via terminal14:23
KORBEN_x64sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list14:23
* genii makes a pot of coffee14:26
BluesKajActionParsnip1 , what wubi folder , there's only the application install icon14:26
shadeslayer_BluesKaj: maybe he means C:\Ubuntu14:27
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: yes you install wubi like a windows app then you will have linux, i never mentioned a folder)14:27
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: the card is supported in intrepid by the nvidia-glx-177 driver (which you said was weird)14:28
BluesKajKORBEN_x64  what wubi folder , there's only the application install icon ?14:28
BluesKajActionParsnip1 , it won't install on 64 bit14:29
BluesKajthe graphics drivers14:29
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: which drivers do yu have, you dont install any explicitly, you do it via apt / synaptic / aptitude14:30
BluesKajI used the restricted driver app recommended driver , used apt for the 177 but it won't install on a 64 bit platform14:32
BluesKajhence the 32 bit query14:32
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: it should install the 64bit video driver from the 64bit repos14:35
khalidmianany help on this error? CMake Error: The source directory "/home/khalidmian/Desktop/ktorrent-3.2/build" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.14:35
ActionParsnip1BluesKaj: im not the best guy to ask, ive never used wubi. I think its a godawful idea14:35
BluesKajI'm not asking about the nvidia driver as such ActionParsnip1, because the 64 bit one doesn't work or won't install ..I think a 32 bit install will work since the Vista install is 32 bit14:36
ActionParsnip1im unsure how wubi handles that sort of thing14:37
ActionParsnip1if the vista is 32bit, i would install 32bit linux14:37
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BluesKajActionParsnip1 , exactly , that's why I asked the question in the first place :)14:41
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c0p3rn1cimho wubi can handle 64 bit, because you just mount a ntfs directory and install your full ubuntu there14:42
ActionParsnip1i think it should die just like the live gentoo cd14:43
khalidmianhi any help on cmake issue14:45
mefisto__khalidmian: does CMakeLists.txt exist in that directory?14:47
khalidmianmefisto__: let me check14:48
antonio__ciao14:49
geniiHm14:50
kuaeragenii! \o/14:50
geniiHi kuaera14:50
kuaeragenii: Good morning. I needed to share some random joy after getting internet back up on my laptop. Knetworkmanager no longer acts on encrypted wireless networks [Jaunty] :(14:51
* genii hands out the celebratory coffee and cookies14:52
ActionParsnip1!coffee14:52
ubottucoffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java14:52
geniiActionParsnip1: :)14:52
Dr_willis!tea14:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tea14:52
ActionParsnip1Dr_willis: tea > coffee14:52
shadeslayer_:D14:52
Dr_willis!beer14:53
ubottuBeer is always appreciated.14:53
geniiDr_willis: The bot's beverage knowledge seems to be limited to coffee14:53
shadeslayer_lol14:53
geniiOh, and beer14:53
kuaeragenii: Instant karma \o/14:53
shadeslayer_!java14:53
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper14:53
shadeslayer_:P14:53
* khalidmian gives up on trying to install ktorrent-3.214:57
mefisto__khalidmian: have you seen this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KTorrent?content=26353   look at the post at the bottom. I don't know if I would trust that repo though14:58
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: i had it, its faster but doesnt like web interface15:01
khalidmianActionParsnip1: just trying to compile it but cant seem to at all15:07
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: there are some packages about. Let me see if i can relocate15:10
AndySpainhi!15:11
AndySpainhow can i have kubuntu auto-mount my ntfs partition on /dev/sda1?15:11
ActionParsnip1AndySpain: /dev/sda1 IS the partition, you mount it to a folder15:11
AndySpainyes i know15:12
AndySpainthere it is15:12
AndySpainand i want it mounted to /mnt/sda115:12
AndySpainbut automatically at each startup15:12
Dr_willisthen you make a proper entry in /etc/fstab15:12
ActionParsnip1AndySpain: add an entry for it in /etc/fstab15:13
gothpawinterestingly, whenever I try to change the screen resolution Kubuntu freezes up on me and I am able to do nothing except restart the computer with the reboot button on the front of my tower. Any ideas as to why this would be happening???15:13
AndySpainso i don't have to do sudo mount  every time15:13
Dr_willisAndySpain,  you got it.15:13
Dr_willis!fstab15:13
AndySpainwhat entry?15:13
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions15:13
Dr_willisfstab is documented all over the place :)15:13
AndySpainThank you ActionParsnip! and Dr_willis15:13
khalidmianActionParsnip1: i got deb file for ktorrent15:14
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: theres ktorrent data which you'll need too15:14
AndySpainone stupid question: is there a key combination to change between tabs in konqueror ? ctrl+tab doesn't work15:15
khalidmianActionParsnip1: when installing ktorrent3.2 deb file i get dependecy not satisfiable:amarok-nightly-qt15:15
Dr_willissounds like it wants some up tio date amarok also15:16
Crusterhi there, I created a service menu and put it in ~/.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus, but it doesn't show in right click. What I've done wrong?15:16
gothpawdoes anyone know why when I try to change the screen resolution Kubuntu just locks up on me leaving me able to do nothing at all?15:16
khalidmianActionParsnip1: when installing ktorrent3.2 deb file i get dependecy not satisfiable:amarok-nightly-qt15:17
khalidmianany clue?15:17
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: you need the neon repos adding15:17
ActionParsnip1!neon15:17
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon15:17
Dr_willisheh that prokect mauy have up to date ktorrent :)15:18
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Crusteranyone about service menus?15:20
Dr_willisnever used them sorry15:21
Dr_willisI would check for tyos in the path/name/executable bits..15:21
gothpawanyone for my screen res issue?15:21
Dr_willisand google for examples of service menus15:21
CrusterDr_willis: this menu is based on a simple one I found on the net...anyway thanks15:23
Dr_willisthe whole 'custome menu' feautre of gnome and kde - both get overlooked.15:26
ockonal_))))))))))))15:27
gothpawwhat options do I have for changing the screen resolution?15:29
Dr_willisedit the xorg.conf and set the res there - is one way15:30
gothpawDr_willis: hopefully that one works. This KRandRTray keeps freezing the system everytime I do it that way15:30
Dr_williskrandtray uses the xrand features of the xserver. that may have changed with the latest x server changes.. or your video drivers15:32
gothpawDr_willis: figured as much, but whatever way works is good for me as I can't see half the stuff on the screen, lol15:33
ofvhi. mouse interaction with the taskbar is slow (after a click kubuntu needs approx 30 seconds to react)15:36
ofvkeyboard is fine though.15:36
ofvi'm using kde 4.2 on 8.1015:37
ofvmouse works fine with other apps (including kde apps)15:37
gothpawDr_willis: I'm looking for "DisplaySize"  to set the resolution correct? Been a while since I edited this file, a long long while....\15:41
Laeborghello15:42
Dr_willisgothpaw,  ive not had to edit it in ages.. with my LCD montiors and dvi conector. X always gets my res right.15:43
Laeborgim pretty new to kubuntu, but im just in love with this OS :D15:43
Dr_willisgothpaw,  you are using a lcd monitor? DVI conector? KVM switch? VGA monitor? or what exactly?15:43
Laeborgbut i have a little problem with my gfx, intel media accelerator x3100, when i run a glxgears, i only have a avarage FPS on 20015:43
Laeborgand i can't get openGL to work.15:44
kuaeraUh? glxgears kinda requires OpenGL15:44
gothpawDr_willis: LCD, no dvi (however I could change it to a dvi cable)15:44
Laeborgwell i have installed steam via PlayOnLinux (wine) and there i can only use software mode, not openGL15:45
gothpawDr_willis: should I try switching the cable before I change the screen res. right now I swear this is 640x480 as I can't see half the stuff on the screen, lol ... was hoping for at least 1280x1024 or higher15:46
khalidmiancan one uninstall amarok nightly?15:47
kuaerakhalidmian: Yes.15:48
Dr_willisif you canuse DVI -- then USE DVI.. :) end of story on that bit..15:48
kuaeraLaeborg: I'm uncertain what to tell you, aside from the fact that Intel acceleration support is very iffy15:49
Dr_willisIve had that 'dvi vs vga' argument befor with some guuys at work.. DVI works so much better.15:49
khalidmiankuaera: how do i uninstall amarok-nightly15:49
Dr_willisapt-get remove whatever15:49
Dr_willissame as ya installed it. :)15:49
syhello15:54
Dr_willisMello15:55
sywhy nobody an15:56
Dr_willisHmm?15:56
syje parle français15:57
geniisy: Best to just ask whatever support question you have in English. Or travel to french support by:  /join #kubuntu-fr15:58
gothpawDr_willis: DVI is possible. My monitor has a built in switch to go between 2 PC's. The DVI is on the other machine, but I can swap them around easy enough15:59
syhello15:59
gothpawDr_willis: is there anything I need to change to move it to DVI, or could it be as simple as just changing the cable?15:59
syiam looking woman16:00
khalidmianDr_willis: was able to run ktorrent 3,2 deb file but version says im still on 3.1216:00
syi want go out with you16:01
Dr_willisgothpaw,  with dvi when you restart the X server it 'should' in theory get the proper info.   It may be that 'switching btween 2 pc's" that is goofing things up16:01
geniisy: This is not the channel to find a date in.16:02
zipper_how to install webcam on kubuntu16:02
Dr_willis theres lots of Hot babes in #linux :)16:02
syi don't know16:02
Dr_williszipper_,  i just plug mine in and it works :)16:02
gothpawsy: this is NOT a dating channel --- ce n'est pas un canal datant16:02
Dr_willis!webcam16:02
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras16:02
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syje suis fatigue16:03
pedro__ajuda16:03
pedro__ajuda com linpopup....16:03
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gothpaw!english16:03
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat16:03
sytu e une femme ou pas16:03
pedro__alguem??16:03
zipper_yes ubuntu  destop cudnot find but kubuntu find it16:04
Suikomoin dudes16:04
pedro__:(16:04
Suikodoes anybody know a solution for the netgear sc101 nas and linux?16:04
syi know16:04
pedro__nick16:04
Dr_willisthe desktop shouldent matter.. since its ther kernel drivers that get loaded  are the same.. it may be the app you are using needs to be configured to see the camera. test it with 'cheese' perhaps?16:05
pedro__!kick16:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kick16:05
geniisy: Cet endroit est pour l'aide avec Kubuntu. Si vous avez besoin du support technique, faites la demande en anglais. Si vous essayez d'avoir une vie sociale svp allez ailleurs.16:05
Suikoyou know, i need a how to...for dummys16:05
Suikoanybody else, how to mount a netgear sc101 nas16:06
Dr_willisis it working as a samba fileserver?16:06
Suikonope16:06
Dr_willisfor my ximeta ndas i had to compile a special module.. no idea on that netgear one.16:07
Dr_willisother nas i got - works as a samba server, or ftp server16:07
Suikoi asked some engineers on the last CeBit, but they didnt knew an answer16:08
gothpawwell off I go to try the DVI....16:08
gothpawDr_willis: thanks for the help, cross your fingers, lol... gonna try switching the cables now16:08
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Dr_williswhen in doubt check the docs I guess.. then again. if the enguineers dont even know.. i wonder how anything even sees that nas. :)16:09
Suikobut i can ping it....16:13
Dr_willis If it was hooked to a windows box.. how does it 'share' the drives?16:16
Dr_willisnmap it. see what services its running. :) if any16:17
Suikonmap?16:20
Suikosorry, i am a newby16:21
genii!info nmap16:21
ubottunmap (source: nmap): The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.62-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1031 kB, installed size 3644 kB16:21
geniiSuiko: Basically a network prober16:21
Suikohow do i use it?16:21
Suikonmap --help didnt help me at all ^^16:22
gothpawDr_willis: well something still isn't right as now it is telling me that 800x600 is the highest it will go, which I know to be wrong16:23
syje cherche une femmmmme16:23
sycomment ca va16:23
Dr_willisgothpaw,  you did install the proper vidoe card drivers for whatver card you have?16:23
syto change the permission16:24
sywhta hapen16:24
gothpawDr_willis: I haven't changed anything since the install (just installed this about 3 hours ago) so I am kind of assuming Kubuntu installed the proper drivers16:24
syje cherche une femme16:25
Dr_willisgothpaw,  bad assumtion16:25
Dr_willisgothpaw,  what is your video card?16:25
sywhta video card16:25
gothpawNvidia 6600LE I do believe16:25
Dr_willisThen you need to install the 'nvidia' drivers16:25
syyes16:26
Dr_willismy systems dont have the proper res. untill either untill i install that driver.16:26
Dr_willis!sudo16:26
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)16:26
gothpawDr_willis: can you point me to a doc about how to do that please16:26
Dr_willisgothpaw,  theres  shoudl be a 'restricted-driver' hardware-driver icon in the menus :)16:26
Dr_willisor read at16:26
Dr_willis!nvidia16:27
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:27
Dr_willisor 'kdesudo jockey-kde' and install them16:27
gothpawDr_willis: thanks, you've been much help. I do appreciate it16:27
Dr_willisthere should of been a popup item when ya first startted that mentioned the drivers I recall :)16:27
gothpawDr_willis: there was and still is, but when I tried to run it, it failed16:28
gothpawjust sat there at 0% downloading for over 1 hour16:28
syi have a problem with my linux16:31
syit doesn't work16:31
sythe sound16:32
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gothpawsy: cant help you if you dont provide proper info on what the problem is16:32
Suikointeresting scan results16:32
syi cain't hear the sound16:32
Suikoi used nmap now on it and the results are kind of interesting16:32
sywhat i have to do?16:33
fosco__sy, open the mixer and check the sound volumes, make sure they are not zero or silenced16:34
synobody answer me16:34
syok i will try thak you16:34
syi have another problem, i can't install the software16:36
syi odn't know why,16:36
fosco__sy, use the package manager16:36
fosco__sudo apt-get install program16:36
fosco__that should work16:36
syok thank you16:37
Suikosy: you know a way to get sc101 run on linux?16:38
sywhen i do, sudo apt get install, the name of the software or what16:39
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Dr_willisheh...16:40
fosco__sy, for example to install firefox: sudo apt-get install firefox16:40
devilhi16:41
Suikohey sy16:41
Suikosimply use aptitude16:41
Suikoits the install manager for the system16:42
Dr_willishttp://www.netgear.com/PopUps/RelatedDocument.aspx?DocumentDownloaded=enUS_DS_SC101_25Apr07%20pdf&DocumentDownloadedSrc=/upload/product/sc101/enus_ds_sc101_25apr07.pdf&hasSfID=False&itemID={FB98BFCE-553C-441C-A8BE-D37FA0AFAC7F}&documentTitle=Data%20Sheet16:42
Dr_willissc101 manual :)16:42
sythank you, i would like to know, how to install the ubuntub in your compter16:42
Suikoeven for linux`?16:42
fosco__sy, what?16:43
Dr_willisIf the thing is using the normal 'smb' protocall - you access it as you would any other samba server16:43
Suikowell, its the data sheet16:44
Dr_willisYep. they are lacking in any actual manual16:45
Dr_willisi was researching netgear routers earlier today and noticed that they didene have  much for manuals.16:45
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Dr_willisjavascript:;16:45
Dr_willisjoy - their manual download seems to be a javascript link16:46
Dr_willistheir active product tour isent very active :)16:46
Dr_willishttp://syndicate.sellpoint.net/Netgear__Inc_/10742/2051-GJ2L6N-20-player-T1_MP/MPPlayer/MPPlayer.html?Master=Self&PlayerTitle=&ShoppingCart=http%3A%2F%2Fsyndicate.sellpoint.net%2FNetgear__Inc_%2F10742%2F__buybutton__.html&LVerify=Syn-9IOYGH-10769&Width=536&Height=525&ParentUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.netgear.com%2FProducts%2FStorage%2FNetworkStorage%2FSC101.aspx%3Fdetail%3DSystem%2BRequirements#16:46
Dr_willishas a link to the manual at the right side16:46
Suikoit isnt available16:47
Dr_willisit is. :) its just slow.16:48
Suikonope, its writen there16:48
Dr_willis1. First, Install a hard disk, and connect the Storage Central SC101 to your network.16:48
Dr_willis2. Next, Install the Storage Central SC101 software.16:48
Dr_willisLooks like it uses special software16:48
Dr_willisso linux support may not exist16:48
Suikojup16:48
Suikothere is a project by googlecode16:49
Suikobut i dont know how to handle it16:49
Dr_willisThen  looks like you have been asking a question that you allready have the answer for.16:49
Dr_willissad the thing couldent just work as a nfs server.. that would be nice16:49
sythank you, i must go to now see next time.16:50
Suikovery sad16:51
Suikout listall didnt list anything at all16:55
Dr_willisHuh?16:58
ajfahmihello guys16:58
ajfahmik3b didnt detect my drive ?16:58
ajfahmihow can i fix that ?16:58
Dr_willisthere used to be a k3b setup menu item/command.. in the k3b menus i recall...16:59
Dr_willisor check what your optical drive is really called. and doublt check the /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd (or other links) are pointing to..16:59
Dr_willis ls -l /dev/dvd17:00
Dr_willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-02-17 21:32 /dev/dvd -> scd017:00
Dr_willismy 'dvd' is actially /dev/sdc0  - i could tell k3b to use /dev/sdc0 instead of /dev/dvd if i wanted tio17:00
ajfahmilrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-02-17 21:32 /dev/dvd -> scd017:01
ajfahmiDr_willis how do i do that ?/17:02
Dr_willisso chkeck k3b settings be sure its access ing /dev/dvd i guess..17:02
Dr_willisrun k3b from a terminal also. and look for any error messages17:02
Dr_williswhen i do that i see a lot of lines like ..............17:03
Dr_willis(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/scd0: init()17:03
Dr_willis(K3bDevice::Device) /dev/scd0 feature: CD Mastering17:03
Dr_willisshows its using /dev/sdc0 :)17:03
Dr_willisK3b  menus --> Settings -> configure k3b shows devices it sees also17:03
mefisto__and there's an "add device" button17:04
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ajfahmiDr_willis it seems becouse im a normal user17:05
ajfahmihow can i switch to anotehr user from terminal ?17:05
Dr_willissudo commane can do that17:05
Dr_willisyour initial user should be able to burn disks.. but  others may need to be in a specific group17:06
ajfahmiDr_willis yes im not on initial user17:06
draik_Every time I run an app, Kubuntu freezes and forces me to restart it. How can I check the cause?17:07
Dr_willisthere seems to be a cdrom group. but not sure if thats the issue or not ajfahmi17:07
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draik_Also, it seems that doing 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' will freeze too when done in Yakuake.17:08
kuaeradraik_: Actually, I do that string precisely in yakuake all the time17:09
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draik_kuaera: That's actually the full command, but I use the alias17:09
draik_I created the alias 'dg'17:09
kuaeraI see17:09
draik_Point being that I can't run an app17:10
draik_Yakuake is there at startup17:10
kuaeraHrm. That's really bizarre.17:10
draik_Yup. I can't run Firefox because it will freeze after a minute of usage.17:10
kuaerahtop?17:10
Dr_willistry a differnt window maanger as a test... like openbox.17:11
draik_htop doesn't show anything. I tried that earlier.17:11
Dr_willis could be a kde issue i guess.. hard to prove whats going on.17:11
kuaerahtop doesn't crash, though?17:11
draik_Nope17:11
kuaeraSo that's not "every app", just GUI apps17:11
kuaeraDr_willis has a point.17:11
kuaeraopenbox --replace17:12
draik_Yesterday, however, when I ran 'dg', it would not let me run the install of the packages held back.17:12
kuaera[Granted, I use openbox all the time and have a remarkably stable Jaunty install]17:12
draik_Something about a lock on /?/var/something. Sorry, I can't recall the location.17:12
Dr_willisdoes openbox support --replace? :)17:12
Dr_willisive never nioticed that17:12
kuaeraYes.17:12
Dr_willisheh17:12
Dr_willistwm --replace17:12
Dr_willis:17:12
draik_I'm booting up right now17:12
draik_I'm at the login window17:13
draik_CTRL+ALT+F1?17:13
kuaeraI've been a *box fan ever since I started using Blackbox for Windows ~6 years ago >_>;17:13
aaroncampbellI have a problem when trying to restart my machine.  I seems that it will no longer boot.  It has a similar problem a lot, where it tries to boot from (0,0) instead of (1,0) whenever a new kernel is installed.  I just edit that from grub and it usually boots fine.17:13
kuaeraMaybe even 7-8 years. I forget.17:13
draik_How do I go about getting openbox?17:13
kuaera'sudo apt-get install openbox' from the terminal should do the trick17:14
Dr_willisamazing how simple linux can be. :)17:14
draik_Last time, it froze on    (Reading database...17:14
draik_Seems to have completed this time17:15
draik_This is through TTY117:15
aaroncampbellThis time however, it said it got tired of waiting on the root drive and asked if it had the right root drive and asked if the wait time was set properly.  It said it was waiting on /dev/disk/by-uuid/96.... and it dropped me to a shell17:15
aaroncampbellI looked and that uuid maps to sda1 which is the right drive.  What can I do?17:15
draik_I'm back at my prompt17:15
draik_How do I get openbox to start now?17:16
Dr_williskdm menu - sessions menu item17:16
draik_Sessions are Default, KDE (previous) and Failsafe17:17
Dr_willisrestart the KDM service17:17
aaroncampbellWeird, after pressing the reset on my system a few times, it happened every time.  Then after all that looking around at the promt, I typed "exit" and it booted fine.17:18
Dr_willissudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart17:18
draik_Thanks17:18
Dr_willisaaroncampbell,  u You might want to be backing up any imporntant data.. :)17:18
Dr_willisaaroncampbell,  last i had issues that weird.. the hd was dieing a slow death.17:18
Dr_willis Then again its always good idea to have backups17:18
draik_What the deuce? Now it's in French17:18
Dr_willis:)17:18
Dr_willisFrench? :) Non!17:18
draik_Benvingut17:19
draik_Nom d'usuari17:19
draik_Contrasenya17:19
kuaeraMm, Nom.17:19
Dr_willisTocco Grande!17:19
Dr_willisOh wrong place..17:19
aaroncampbellDr_willis: The data's on a RAID 5 with 5-500GB drives, so if one fails I can replace it (have a spare sitting right here)17:19
Paddy_EIREDoes ubuntu have QT4.5 packages?17:19
kuaeraIt's lunchtime :(17:19
Dr_willis"Qiche"17:19
Dr_willis:)17:19
draik_Oh well, I can deal with French17:19
kuaeraPaddy_EIRE: Not yet.17:19
Paddy_EIREah ok17:19
draik_Going into Openbox now17:19
kuaeraPaddy_EIRE: Mostly because Qt4.5 hasn't be released yet...17:19
kuaera*been17:19
draik_I think it may have frozen after providing my password. Nothing is happening.17:20
aaroncampbellBut the diagnostics show they're fine, and the RAID is hardware and should perform decently even without one drive (as it has before when I've lost one)17:20
Paddy_EIREkuaera hehe... silly me17:20
Paddy_EIRE:P17:20
draik_Yep, froze. HDD light no longer flickering.17:20
kuaeraThough, speak of the devil17:20
kuaeraI'm compiling Qt4.5 right now :O17:20
Paddy_EIRE:)17:20
Paddy_EIREthe thought had crossed my mind17:20
kuaeraIt's not too challenging to compile it, really.17:21
Paddy_EIRE./configure && make && make install17:21
Paddy_EIRE?17:21
kuaeraPretty much.17:21
Paddy_EIREI will read a little more on it17:21
Paddy_EIREthanks though :)17:21
kuaeraExcept I do ./configure -no-exceptions -no-qt3support -nomake demos -nomake examples17:22
draik_I like to add   && echo SUCCESS!    at the end just to make sure it all finished nicely.17:22
Paddy_EIREdraik_: good thinking17:22
draik_:)17:22
Paddy_EIREkuaera where do I actually download it?17:24
draik_Seems that the login fails to boot me into the system17:24
ubuntu_hello17:25
kuaeraPaddy_EIRE: Uh. I usually get it from the qt-snapshot git repo17:25
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GenesistWhat's news? :)17:25
draik_GUI login is just there, not going anywhere.17:26
draik_I go to TTY1 and I'm able to do some work there.17:26
kuaeradraik_: startx from the terminal?17:26
draik_remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again17:27
draik_rm /tmp/.X0-lock         ?17:27
kuaeraMight want to kill kdm and any X sessions first17:28
draik_How so?17:28
kuaera(I'm kinda grasping at straws here, so)17:28
kuaerasudo killall kdm17:28
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kuaerasudo killall X17:28
draik_sudo killall is aliased 'die'17:28
draik_:)17:28
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draik_kdm: no process killed17:29
draik_X: no process killed17:29
kuaeraOdd.17:29
kuaeraAnd there's still a lockfile in place? I guess you could forcefully remove it and then try startx17:29
draik_Openbox or Openbox Session?17:30
kuaeraUhm. Context?17:30
draik_Session type17:30
kuaeraOpenbox, I guess.17:30
draik_KDE    KDE/Openbox  Openbox   Openbox Session17:31
draik_Those are my options17:31
kuaeraOpenbox17:31
draik_OK17:33
draik_I do that, but then nothing happens17:33
draik_The login prompt goes away and I'm just left with the background17:33
kuaeraRight click on the desktop.17:33
kuaeraIf it's Openbox, you'll get a simplistic menu17:34
fosco__draik_, right clic on the wallpaper17:34
draik_Ah17:34
draik_OK17:34
draik_I have something there.17:34
fosco__you'll see the openbox menu17:34
draik_Yup17:34
fosco__that IS openbox17:34
fosco__:)17:34
draik_I was expecting to see my own wallpaper17:34
fosco__execute obconf to set the wallpaper, theme and more17:35
kuaeradraik_: Your wallpaper was set in KDE; there's no KDE elements visible with basic Openbox, so.17:35
draik_Awesome.17:36
draik_I'm going to start Firefox now. Let's see what happens17:36
draik_:(17:38
draik_It froze17:38
kuaeradraik_: So...it's not the window manager or the desktop environment17:40
draik_Nope, guess not.17:40
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kuaeraI'm not quite sure how to troubleshoot past this point17:41
kuaeraI used to get random lockups on my laptop while in X when I had certain kernels running17:41
draik_Another thing too is that my HDD is 1TB. It's only reading as ~300GB, which was the partition size when it was on my 500GB.17:41
fosco__draik_, df -h will show the detected partition sizes17:42
draik_Right. That's where I see it17:42
fosco__the size shown there is the right size of the partition17:43
draik_Hmmm17:43
draik_I'll have to see a way of fixing this.17:43
draik_:(17:43
draik_No booting, I'm in initramfs17:43
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Fernandooohi where i can get a file with soruces for apt ?17:44
draik_!source-o-matic17:45
ubottusource-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.17:45
KubuserHi all, I'm running kubuntu 8.10 with the kde 4.2 packages from ppa experimental. Should I be able to move panel widgets around?17:45
KubuserI have to ask because this operation so far eludes me :(17:46
Tm_TKubuser: yes, after you go to config "mode"17:46
Tm_TKubuser: click that cashew in edge of panel17:47
Paddy_EIREKubuser: ah from git.. I may wait for release17:47
Paddy_EIREwthanks anyhow17:47
Paddy_EIRE:P17:47
KubuserTm_T, Ah!17:47
KubuserTm_T, thanks :)17:47
KubuserPaddy_EIRE, yep I couldn't wait :)17:48
Paddy_EIRE:)17:48
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draik_Well, I have to go to work soon. kuaera & fosco__, thanks for your help. Now I know it's deeper than WM and I need to check on my partition, too.17:50
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jalsi have a question about K3b and ripping cds, is there a more appropriate channel to ask in than here?18:11
abdulmalikاهلا18:12
mefisto__!ar18:13
ubottuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe18:13
mefisto__no18:13
DaSkreech!arabic18:13
ubottuFor Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية18:13
DaSkreechjals: Here is fine. #kde will work as well18:13
jalsok, i'm attempting to rip to mp3, and it basically works, but the LAME flags i set seem to be being ignored to an extent18:14
jalseven using -V 0 i still end up with certain songs being no better than 128kbps18:15
loerberyello18:16
ockonal_hi18:17
moothiya everyone18:18
mooti'm tring to do a try boot18:18
DaSkreechOhh there is a #k3b channel :)18:19
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DaSkreechHmm that's kinda strange it should just pass the lame optons18:19
DaSkreech!hi18:19
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:19
Mew-Chani'm tring to do a trible boot18:19
Mew-Chancan anyone here help?18:19
jalsare you having problems18:20
DaSkreechMew-Chan: Between what?18:21
Mew-Chansabayon18:21
Mew-Chankbuntu18:22
Mew-Chankubuntu*18:22
Mew-Chanand vista(gotta have my games)18:22
DaSkreechInstall vista first then probably Kubuntu and sabayon18:23
DaSkreechIt will sort out the booting for you18:24
Mew-Chanwell i already hava vista and sabayon i just wanted to make sure i wouldn't crash my sys by trying to install kubuntu18:24
DaSkreechYou shouldn't as long as you have the partitions set up18:26
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shoulahafter i install kde 4.2 i shutdown my pc the when i boot it up again asked me for passs then login to black screen with center mouse pointer how can i solve this?18:36
DaSkreechshoulah: Hmm try moving out your plasma configs18:37
shoulahhow can i18:37
shoulah?18:37
DaSkreechbefore you login jump to a VT and mkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup18:37
DaSkreechThen login18:37
shoulahok i will try18:38
lacitcarphi - how do I prevent Amarok from being loaded automatically at start-up?18:40
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blackmoonhi, i'm unable to load kde4 (the splash screen is locke at 3rd icon), can you help me?18:49
shoulahDaSkreech: didn't helped at all18:50
hdxxblackmoon, try to reset computer, worked for me18:51
shoulahfirst no such directory plasmabkup18:51
shoulahthen  i remove the ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* with sudo18:51
DaSkreechshoulah: The first part of hte command is mkdir plasmabkup18:52
DaSkreechbut fine18:52
DaSkreechWorks the same way18:52
shoulahdidn't work18:53
shoulahhave i reinstall the system18:53
shoulah:(18:53
shoulahDaSkreech: have i reinstall the system?18:54
DaSkreechNo I doubt it18:54
shoulah:( how can i uninstall it kde 4.218:55
shoulahDaSkreech: how can i uninstall it kde 4.218:56
DaSkreechshoulah: try just mv ~/.kde ~/kdebkup18:56
shoulahok18:57
shoulahwith sudo18:57
shoulah?18:57
shoulahDaSkreech: with sudo18:57
DaSkreechNo need for sudo18:57
DaSkreechYou own that directory18:57
shoulahok18:58
shoulahDaSkreech: no way19:02
DaSkreechReally?19:02
DaSkreechHmm19:02
shoulahblack screen with mouse pointer19:02
DaSkreechtry sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:03
shoulahok19:03
shoulahi will do19:03
BillyBunterhi19:03
BillyBunterI'm using kubuntu8.10. I have it booting into a console. when I use startx kde has no sound. anyone know how to fix it ?19:04
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DaSkreechStart kmix?19:06
mefisto__in systemsettings>session manager, there is "applications to be excluded from sessions".  where is that info stored? how would I exclude apps from sessions in terminal?19:08
DaSkreechin ~/.kde/share I would assume19:09
BillyBunterDaSkreech, kmix opens without any mixer things in it. and everything complains about there being no sound device.19:13
BillyBunterits as if it is locked into the first tty only19:13
DaSkreechBillyBunter: sudo lshw -C Multimedia19:14
BillyBunterand you need to use sudo to get any access to the sound device19:14
BillyBunter1 sec19:14
BillyBunteru want all that information ?19:14
BillyBunteroops19:15
DaSkreech!paste19:16
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:16
BillyBunterkk19:16
BillyBunterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/119780/19:17
DaSkreech!sound | BillyBunter19:18
ubottuBillyBunter: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:18
lupine_85allo allo19:18
lupine_85I'm assuming you guys know that:  files list file for package `libcaptury0' contains empty filename19:19
lupine_85?19:19
Dillizardoes splash screens from KDE work on GNOME19:19
lupine_85it kind of breaks all updates19:19
BillyBunterDaSkreech: in the system settings / sound. there is no option to start stop the sound system that i can see. not like in 3.5's kcontrol19:20
DaSkreechBillyBunter: Sorry that's only KDE319:20
BillyBunterya19:20
shoulahDaSkreech: thank u sir there were some packages didn't installed19:20
DaSkreechshoulah: yeah that's the only explanation. Are you ok now?19:20
shoulahsudo apt-get -f install solved it19:20
lupine_85...holy crap, check out /var/lib/dpkg/info$ libcaptury0.list19:20
lupine_85...holy crap, check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/libcaptury0.list19:21
shoulahyes sir19:21
kopertonrude19:21
koperton!rude19:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about rude19:21
DaSkreech!info libcaptury019:21
ubottulibcaptury0 (source: libcaptury): Captury framework library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0+svn20070725-0ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 11 kB, installed size 84 kB19:21
Dillizardoes splash screens from KDE work on GNOME19:21
DaSkreechlupine_85: Take it up in #ubuntu-devel19:21
DaSkreechDillizar: Doubtful19:21
shoulahbye19:21
DillizarDaSkreech, what is the worst can happen :D19:22
DaSkreechThey don't show19:22
Dillizarlemme try ;)19:22
Bugs_BunnyBRsomeone here had problems with the nvidia card after the update to install kde4.2 (by the repository )  in the kubuntu 8.10 ??19:24
martijn81Bugs_BunnyBR: yeah, me the nvidia driver does not work anymore19:25
cinexok19:25
cinexck-launch-session startkde complained about $DISPLAY not being set and ck-launch-session startx has the smae pronblem19:26
drostieWhat do I do if I want to add an InputDevice to my xorg.conf, but the file has no ServerLayout section? Is there some place that lists the defaults that X uses when these sections go unspecified? (My keyboard and mouse also don't have explicit listings in xorg.conf.)19:30
ockonal_drostie: try to add it19:32
Bugs_BunnyBRdid you got fix the problem with your nvidia card?19:32
Bugs_BunnyBRmartijn81:did you got fix the problem with your nvidia card?19:33
drostieockonal_: I've tried just adding a ServerLayout with only the three InputDevices for my stylus, but that hasn't worked out so well. (Instead of X starting, I get bumped to a tty console.)19:34
drostieactually, what would also help just as much: where does X log its errors to? If it's failing to start, there must be some record.19:36
DaSkreechin /var/log like all daemons19:42
drostieAh, it has a capital X, which was why my find wasn't finding it. ^_^;;19:45
DaSkreech^_^19:45
Viking667... oops. Wrong channel. Apologies.19:48
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hibanahi19:52
DaSkreech!hi19:52
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:52
hibanawhat tool do you use to create a thumbnail of an image?19:53
hibana!thumbnail19:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about thumbnail19:54
DaSkreechHmm?19:54
DaSkreechFor like putting on a website?19:54
DaSkreechany image editor19:54
hibanatypical use in creating a quick thumbnail for social media profile picture19:55
Pliskin_gwenview ?19:55
hibanathumbnail should be below 4k19:55
Pliskin_euh no digikam ?19:55
shazoorhow do i creat a folder in root19:57
shazooris there anyone19:59
hibanaI've not seen a feature to make an image into a thumbnail in gwenview19:59
geniishazoor: Why do you feel it necessary that a folder must be made in /root ?20:00
shazooractually i want to edit a file on root and i dont have write permissions. also i want to learn it by experimenting also... can you help me please20:01
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mefisto__hibana: a thumbnail is just a small image, right? so all you need to do is create a small image. any image editor can do it20:05
DaSkreechPliskin_: Gwenview is an image viewr not an editro20:06
hibanamefisto__: but some tools do it better than others20:06
DaSkreechShazoor: You need sudo20:07
mefisto__hibana: do what? small images?20:07
hibanamefisto__: the resizing of images20:07
Guest43719kira20:08
mefisto__hibana: if you're really concerned about the quality of an image that is less than 4k in size, I guess use gimp. but it will look the same no matter what you use20:09
funghey guys, my panel somehow became like a window titled 'Qt-subapplication.' how do i fix it?20:09
DaSkreechKrtia20:09
DaSkreechKrita20:09
DaSkreechnor kira20:09
DaSkreechKpaint also exists20:09
Pliskin_DaSkreech : Yeah I sai Digikam20:09
Pliskin_said*20:09
mefisto__hibana: kolorpaint will be quick and easy20:10
DaSkreechAlso a image manager not really an editor20:10
hibanamefisto__: thanks to the guys in ubuntu-za I have found 'convert' which does exactly what I need20:10
DaSkreechkolourpaint.. Thanks20:10
hibanathanks20:10
drostieHee, ^_^. I can has stylus! Thanks to the people who helped me with Xorg stuff. You guys rock!20:12
DaSkreechWhoot20:13
LummyAnyone know offhand the equivalent of System->Prefs->Keyboard in Kubuntu where the keyboard device can be changed?20:15
DaSkreechSystem Settings -> Launguage I think20:17
mefisto__system settings > regional & language, keyboard layout20:17
DaSkreechThat's it20:19
geiserihey is anyone here using intrepid with the KDE 4.2 ppa packages?  i am having problems with flash viewing youtube vids using it20:19
Lummythanks, looks like it, except I'm not seeing an expected option.  I have a logitech g15, the g15daemon is running, and according to what I've read, I should be able to select it.20:19
DaSkreechIn Firefox?20:19
geiserikonqueror20:20
geiserifunny thing is other flash sites like growcube work just fine20:20
iwannasavegeiseri: right click within the flash video, go to settings and increase the cache size to 1MB20:20
Lummynm, found the option I was looking for.  Thanks DaSkreech and Mefiso20:20
LummyMefisto!20:20
DaSkreechWhere was it?20:20
geiseriiwannasave: if i rightclick and click the settings menu nothing happens20:20
DaSkreechYeah I know youtube likes to keep it's flash realy really new which messes wit konqueror20:21
LummyYou were right.  The g15daemon option I was hunting for was under "Logitech G15"...  heh20:21
iwannasavegeiseri: then flash plugin is not enabled for konq browser20:21
DaSkreechI find if I refresh Konqueror like 7-10 times it works20:21
DaSkreech normally I just open firefox and use it for youtube then close20:21
geiseriiwannasave: well i see the context menu... i just see a black screen20:21
DaSkreechYeah same for me20:21
geiseriDaSkreech: well we are showing off KDE 4.2 on kubuntu this weekend20:22
mefisto__I find konqueror works better with the older version 9 flash plugin20:22
DaSkreechDon't use youtbe :)20:22
geiseriDaSkreech: its inevitable that some cocky user will go there to prove how bad kde is :(20:22
iwannasavegeiseri: do u see the flash plugin within the settings of konqueror?20:23
drostieUse wireshark to capture the HTTP header between your computer and youtube, and download the file directly with wget. ^_^20:23
zzillezzwhy is the bar at the bottom of the screen not full width ? (jaunty alpha 4) ?20:23
geiseriiwannasave: yes, its using the closed source one too20:23
geiseriiwannasave: its strange i see a black screen, and i have more context menu options than i do with firefox20:23
geiseriiwannasave: but they dont do anything, its like flash is locked up20:24
drostiezzillezz: click the ying-yang icon on the left of the panel, and you should get options to resize it.20:24
iwannasavegeiseri: not sure .... do u have any Ad-Blocks enabled? ... I had a similar problem with Firefox when I had AD-Block enabled20:24
mefisto__ying-yang :) first time I've heard it called that20:24
geiseriiwannasave: hmmm let me check20:24
DaSkreechgeiseri: I have the same issue20:24
zzillezzthanks very much drostie :-)20:25
geiseriDaSkreech: on kde 4.2?20:25
drostiemefisto__: I have absolutely no idea what the heck it's supposed to be. ^_^20:25
DaSkreechgeiseri: on all KDE420:25
zzillezzwhy does battery monitor starts automatically when i'm on a desktop computer ?20:25
geiseriDaSkreech: well i can see flash vids on 4.120:25
DaSkreechYou will update Flash and it will work for a while then youtube updates and it breaks20:25
geiseriwith stock intrepid20:25
DaSkreechYou can refresh a few times and it works20:26
iwannasavegeiseri: If your end goal is to download the you tube video, then use AcetoneISO2. It will not only download the youtube videos, but it has an option to convert FLV to AVI.20:26
DaSkreechI dunno Youtube is a crapshoot for me20:26
mefisto__drostie: I think ying-yang is supposed to be the cashew-shaped button at the far right of the panel20:26
zzillezzbrb, reboot20:26
geiseriiwannasave: well my end goal is to show off KDE 4.2 in action...20:26
geiseriiwannasave: we are exhibiting at SCALE and using KDE 4.2 with kubuntu20:26
drostiemefisto__: well, I know what I was referring to by it; but I don't know what the cashew-shape is supposed to reference.20:27
norenhi all, its been a long day trying to get the kde4.2 up and running.................. still not succesfull20:27
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drostienoren:were you trying to get it running on intrepid? or is a jaunty install failing?20:27
iwannasavegeiseri: Then I give up. Try with firefox. If it works, then some setting is wrong with konq browser.20:27
mefisto__drostie: sorry, I didn't realise who was saying what to whom20:28
geiseriiwannasave: okay, ill bother the kde devs on it... thanks for the help.20:28
drostiemefisto__: 's fine. ^^;;20:28
norenis there any way to reveert back to older veeersionn of kde if the update is not successfull, i had to install kubuntu frommm scratch twice til now20:28
mefisto__drostie: looks like a web blob of paint to me :)20:28
iwannasavegeiseri: Good luck. if u find a solution post back here or put it on the web somewhere it can be searched for20:28
geiseriiwannasave: i will try, but i fear its one of those stupid things fixed in trunk, but never will get backported.20:29
drostienoren: depends. if your internet connection is available from the teletype consoles, you might be able to uninstall KDE 4.2 and then reinstall KDE 4.1 somehow.20:29
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drostienoren: but when I tried to upgrade intrepid through the experimental ppa, it just broke everything and I had to backup my data and then reinstall jaunty instead.20:30
norenoh okay!! i had installed kubuntu 8.10 and then tried to upgradee it as per the instructiionn at kde.org20:31
fabio_hi...many problems here. Computer inusable after dist-upgrade...someone can help me, please?20:32
norensaame here drostie, i had tried to update with experimental ppa... what is this other way to do with jaunty20:32
DaSkreechnoren: Yes20:32
drostiefabio_: what did you dist-upgrade from/to, and what, more specifically, is unusable?20:33
DaSkreechnoren: KDE.org? you installed from source?20:33
fabio_using kubuntu, intrepid...20:33
drostienoren: the jaunty alpha comes with kde 4.2 out-of-the-box.20:33
fabio_actually kernel was update d to 2.6.27-12.20:34
drostieDaSkreech: no, noren means the skeleton of a walkthrough on kubuntu.org.20:34
norenwhere can i geet jaunty alpha, and noo i dont know how to install frromm soource20:34
drostie(the experimental ppa is a .deb repository)20:34
fabio_kde seems to start, but i have no wallpaper, no windows decorations, system setting does not work and I only can run programs using ALT F220:34
KomiaPoikahi20:35
DaSkreechnoren: You mean kubuntu.org or kde.org ?20:35
KomiaPoikawhat option to put in xorg.conf so that there is NO virtual desktop larger than the resolution of the monitor?20:35
DaSkreechfabio_: run plasma20:35
DaSkreechfabio_: then run konsole and run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:35
norenDaSkreech: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 << i followed this, but its useless i guess. it ends with some dependency error.20:36
fabio_ok... but i mus exit from here20:36
DaSkreechnoren: do you have Koffice installed?20:36
zzillezzwhat's the recommended solution for flash in jaunty alpha  ?20:36
zzillezzalpha4 that is :)20:36
drostiezzillezz: I assume it's flash-plugin-nonfree, as always.20:37
noreni just finished installiing kubutu 8.10 from scratch, but awaiting some expert advice before trying to upgradde again20:37
DaSkreechFlash?20:37
zzillezzwhy not the adobe one ?20:37
DaSkreechnoren: Did you have koffice installed?20:37
DaSkreechzzillezz: That is the adobe one20:37
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zzillezzthe 64 bit one ?20:37
fabio_hi...dist-upgrade does not upgrade all...all is up-to-date20:38
zzillezzi've been using mint for too long :-)20:38
mefisto__actually, adobe-flashplugin is the new package name, but flashplugin-nonfree still works (but doesn't always upgrade properly)20:38
norenDaSkreech: i got only the default installed openoffice word20:38
zzillezzthanks, that was the name i was looking for :-)20:38
DaSkreechnoren: Ok follow the instructions again and I'll help with any problems20:38
Guest17074Hi people20:39
DaSkreechfabio_: Hmm ok what is the situation when you login ?20:39
Guest17074Any reason why firefox-3.0 depends on gnome-support which itself brings half of GNOME ?20:39
fabio_well...maybe is helpful...when i loging there is the black plasmoid showing all but the KDE logo. It does not appear20:39
mefisto__Guest17074: it's a gtk app20:40
fabio_then the jingle, then nothing...grey wallpaper with wite balls20:40
fabio_white, sorry20:40
Guest17074when I install firefox from the web site, I have not those dependancies20:40
DaSkreechGuest17074: Ubuntu bug take it up with #ubuntu-devel20:40
Guest17074(at least I used not to have them... retrying)20:41
drostieGuest17074: firefox still installs anything that it's dependent on when you grab the tarball.20:41
drostieGuest17074: just without registering it as a package -- so, e.g., when you install GIMP, you'll have two copies of the GTK stuff floating around.20:41
DaSkreechdrostie: yes but firefox in Ubuntu relies on ubufox which relies on Gnome support which relies on all of Gnome20:41
fabio_i use nvidia...maybe drivers conflicting with kernel?20:41
DaSkreechIt's an ubuntu bug20:41
DaSkreechfabio_: Maybe I've heard people say that20:41
DaSkreechyou should get plasma though20:42
fabio_how have I to do, DaSkrrech?20:42
fabio_yes...I have something  but unusable20:43
drostieDaSkreech: according to aptitude show, firefox-3.0 merely "suggests" ubufox and firefox-3.0-gnome-support, it doesn't depend on them. At least, not in jaunty -- may be different in intrepid.20:43
fabio_no window devcoration, no panels, no menus20:43
DaSkreechdrostie: Ubuntu installs suggests by default in Ibex onwards20:43
Guest17074on intrepid it wanted to call firefox-3.0-gnome-support20:43
DaSkreechfabio_: can you open a konsole ?20:43
fabio_yes..but I have to exit konversation20:43
DaSkreechfabio_: Why ?20:44
DaSkreechfabio_: You are running konversation from a console?20:44
Guest17074ah you are correct, I have run a apt-cache depends, and it only "suggests" firefox-3.0-gnome-support20:45
fabio_no from ALT-F220:45
Guest17074so why is it calling half of gnome ?20:45
mefisto__Guest17074: it's the good half :)20:45
DaSkreechfabio_: you shouldn't need to close it then20:45
fabio_if i want to use a konsole I have to exit konversation, and get konsole by ALT-F220:45
norenfabio_: did u also tried updating to kde4.2 and failed ??20:45
Guest17074;-)20:45
DaSkreechJust alt+f2 and go again20:45
fabio_no I am using Kde4.2 fsince beta20:46
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drostieGuest17074: the best advice here is to just accept it. I also had that question and I decided that the extra megabytes weren't worth worrying about.20:46
fabio_what have I to do in konsole, please?20:46
drostieGuest17074: but there might be a way to tell aptitude to not follow the "suggests" line.20:47
fabio_i can only input inside one window. Or  ALT-F2 or konversation20:47
Guest17074strangely enough when now i download firefox from the web site, it requires libgnomeui-2.so (I did a strace)20:47
norenin my last try, after the unsuccessful update to kde4.2 my keyboard failed, also i had to close an application to staart another20:47
Guest17074I was running firefox happy and uncaring up to today...20:47
drostiefabio_: switch dynamically to your teletypes. It's Ctrl-Alt-F1 to jump to one, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return here.20:48
drostiefabio_: then you can run both together, probably.20:48
Guest17074I just did an apt-get update && upgrade and now I'm running into these dependancy problems... ufff20:48
fabio_ok...it works. me stoopid not having thought that20:48
fabio_ I am login into tty220:48
DaSkreechnoren: You had to close an app to start another?20:49
drostiefabio_: what does [aptitude show kdebase-plasma] show? is plasma installed?20:50
drostiealso, kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data, apparently.20:51
Luijaei guys, can someone tell me how to use wifi in kubuntu? (i am talking in vista because i cant use the konqueror)20:51
abhello, i am facing a problem with one of my compaq laptop,regarding video driver20:51
DaSkreechfabio_: Oh!! I know what that is. Close konversation then type in kwin&20:51
mefisto__Guest17074: you could install firefox with apt-get --no-install-recommends and see what it's like20:52
DaSkreech!wifi20:52
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:52
mefisto__Guest17074: my guess is it will look ugly without them20:52
drostieLuija: intrepid or jaunty?20:52
DaSkreechfabio_: you have no window manager20:53
norenDaksreech: Yes because i could only interact with the topmost window onn the desktop20:53
DaSkreechnoren: You too?20:53
Luijadrostie, is intrepid20:53
drostieDaSkreech: I think fabio was off in his/her teletype.20:53
DaSkreechok lets try get that sorted out20:54
Guest17074wow... I installed half of gnome, and firefox still does not work20:54
Guest17074up to the apt-get update && upgrade from tonight everything worked fine20:54
abis there is any one to help me regarding video driver20:54
norenyes DaSkreech20:55
DaSkreechfabio_: run kwin20:55
amgarchingwhat happend here on IRC? They dont let me in nether to #python nor to some other channels?20:55
DaSkreechnoren: Ok I can get that working20:55
DaSkreechamgarching: you got banned20:55
* DaSkreech shrugs20:55
mefisto__ab: what's the problem?20:56
amgarchingDaSkreech: not really. I get this though I *am* identified:  [21:51] [Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel20:56
fabio_ok ...nothing seems to happen running kwin20:57
abactually i had installed the driver provided by nvedia..but after getting logged in....screen get blanck20:57
DaSkreechamgarching: Ah ok20:57
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DaSkreech!register | amgarching Read that20:57
ubottuamgarching Read that: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode20:57
DaSkreechfabio_: run konsole20:57
DaSkreechYou should be able to move it around and click on the thing behind it20:58
fabio_sorry for the daly...if i am in the alternative konsole and run kwin i get : cannot konnect to xserver20:58
DaSkreechWoah20:58
DaSkreechThe alternative Konsole ?20:58
fabio_no sorry the CTRL-ALT-F220:59
fabio_another thing: i cannot having system setting to work and jockey-kde tells me there are no nvidia drivers running.21:01
norentest21:01
DaSkreechnoren: try that with a ! in front of it21:02
DaSkreechfabio_: ok Hold on21:02
noren!test21:02
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.21:02
DaSkreechfabio_: does alt+f2 work in alt+ctrl+F7 ?21:03
fabio_yes DaSkreech, but I can type into if I have another application running21:03
fabio_can't type into, sorry21:03
DaSkreechfabio_: do you have konversation running now?21:03
mefisto__noren and fabio_: can you hold alt down and move windows that way?21:03
fabio_yep21:03
fabio_no, i can not move windows21:04
fabio_i have konversation running21:04
norennope21:05
DaSkreechfabio_: ok in alt+ctrl+F2 type in export X:0.021:06
DaSkreechfabio_: Wait21:06
DaSkreechexport DISPLAY=:0.021:06
DaSkreechthen type kwin &21:07
DaSkreechnoren: you are here :)21:07
norenyes21:07
fabio_ok. i got [1] 847121:08
DaSkreechfabio_: Ok can you move the konversation window now?21:08
fabio_no.21:09
DaSkreechnoren: Ok try the KDE 4.2 upgrade and I can help you fix it21:09
DaSkreechfabio_: v_v21:09
fabio_Da skreech...I'm sorry, thankyou for your help21:09
DaSkreechHow did you start konversation? With alt+f2 ?21:09
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fabio_yes, with alt-F221:10
fabio_no menu...21:10
DaSkreechat the top?21:10
fabio_nothing...21:10
fabio_only the grey wallpaper you get when welcome plasmaoid loads21:10
DaSkreechanyway close it and use alt+f2 to run kwin then alt+f2 again to run konversation21:10
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fabio_ok21:11
drbobbhello, whenever i launch something that loads the cpu heavily, my wireless promptly disconnects from the AP21:11
drostieIf the wallpaper is gray, doesn't that mean they're stuck in kdm without a login screen?21:12
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drbobb(using a broadcom card with the b43 driver)21:12
drbobbanyone know whether this is a driver issue, a networkmanager issue, or what?21:12
norenthe lassst three times i tried to upgrade to KDE4.2 i had to download almost 350MB each time... is there a way around not to downloaad so much everytime21:12
DaSkreechdrostie: not if alt+F2 works21:12
DaSkreechnoren: Don't upgrade to KDE 4.2 ?21:13
DaSkreechWhy did you have to do it every time?21:13
fabio_hey! do you want to laugh?21:13
drostiedrbobb: you can probably find out more by K > Applications > System > System Logs Viewer and then loading your CO21:13
drostie*CPU21:13
fabio_all icons in ALT-F2 are one above the other...cannot get "run kwin"21:13
drbobboh and btw every time i try to connect to a last.fm stream w/amarok, the wifi disconnects as well21:14
DaSkreechfabio_: Do you have kwin?21:14
norenevery time the update krashed i had to start from a scratch and fresh install of Kubuntu 8.1021:14
DaSkreech what does "which kwin" say in TTY2 ?21:14
DaSkreechnoren: You could have just removed the repo and re grabbed packages from the normal main21:15
drbobbi know about reading logs, but they're not too informative21:15
fabio_it seems so. In CTRL-ALT-F2 afrter exprting the variable DISPLAY i typed kwin& and i got:21:15
fabio_[1] 847121:15
drostiedrbobb: (that is, loading your CPU up until it drops a connection.)21:15
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DaSkreechfabio_: and which kwin gives an output?21:16
drbobbRX deauthentication (reason=7), like i knew what reason 7 means21:16
fabio_yes21:16
DaSkreechfabio_: You still can't move konversation though?21:16
drostiedrbobb: well, you're asking people who have absolutely no information. Even only vaguely-informative logs improves our information content infinitely.21:16
fabio_"/usr/bin/kwin" segmentation fault21:16
drbobbwell i was hoping someone had seen that on his own system, and researched it21:17
DaSkreechfabio_: Ah that's not good at all21:17
fabio_i think so :-)21:17
DaSkreechfabio_: sudo apt-get install kwin --reinstall21:18
drostiedrbobb: and you asked us as opposed to, say, google or ubuntuforums? :-P21:18
DaSkreechfabio_: Ooooh wait. Do you have compositing on?21:18
drbobbwell had i found an answer there i wouldn't be here21:18
fabio_yes...but i have launched the reinstallation...21:19
drbobb(and the effect is kind of annoying as you may imagine)21:19
fabio_and i has terminated...21:19
DaSkreechIt terminated?21:20
DaSkreechwith what error?21:20
fabio_No all OK.21:20
drostiedrbobb: yeah, understandable. Is your laptop (or a very similar model number) covered by the LaptopTestingTeam at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam ?21:20
drostieThere may be a better driver out there for you; I dunno.21:20
fabio_reinstallation worked.21:20
DaSkreechfabio_: ok do you have compositing on? lets turn that off21:20
drbobb(oh and sometimes the wifi refuses to reconnect until i unload & reload the driver)21:20
DaSkreechThe laptop testing team is defunc as far as I know21:20
fabio_Ok. It's impossible for me turning compositing off. System setting does not load any window21:21
fabio_there is another command?21:21
drbobbDaSkreech: seems so, my model was once reported there but the most recent report i saw was ancient21:21
muxomorHallo, i got a question about psad - is it ever possible to specifyinternal mail - root@localhost, as it was by default, but error is "Could not find mail, edit /etc/psad/psad.conf at /usr/sbin/psad line 9467.21:21
drbobband basically only said installation completes correctly and all seems to work fine (my experience as well)21:22
muxomori typed two internal mails and external too, but it still doesnt want to s send me logs21:22
Guest92887ok I have the solution (firefox needing half of GNOME because of dependancies), does that interest people here ?21:22
DaSkreechfabio_: yes in tty run nano ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc21:22
DaSkreechand look for the line Enabled=true under [Compositing]21:23
DaSkreechChange that to false and save21:23
DaSkreechGuest92887: yes21:23
Guest92887first, "apt-get --no-install-recommends install firefox-3.0" is cool, it avoids bringing all these dependancies in21:23
drbobb(back in breezy times it did require some funky workarounds though)21:24
Guest92887second, the cause of the problem was that firefox could not access to X server, it kept failing reading the socket21:24
DaSkreechfabio_: yes in tty run nano ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc21:24
DaSkreechand look for the line Enabled=true under [Compositing]21:24
DaSkreechChange that to false and save21:24
Guest92887closing the X session and reopening it solved the problem21:24
Guest92887what puzzles me, is why doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade could cause such a problem of accessing the X server21:25
Guest92887it sounds completly unrelated to me21:25
Laeborghow does i unrar a .part01.rar, .part02.rar ect file?21:25
DaSkreech!rar21:26
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free21:26
drostiedrbobb: ouch. hrm. well, my aspire 5000 had a broadcom card, and I think I was running bm43 on it without a cpu-causes-connection-drops problem.21:26
DaSkreechfabio_: did that?21:26
fabio_sorry...everythingh gere stoppd working21:26
fabio_i am just reconnected...21:26
DaSkreechfabio_: Ok did you see my instructions ?21:26
drbobbdrostie: yes, mine is a series 5000 aspire indeed21:26
fabio_tell me please DaSkreech, sorry21:26
DaSkreechfabio_: yes in tty run nano ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc21:27
DaSkreechand look for the line Enabled=true under [Compositing]21:27
DaSkreechChange that to false and save21:27
Laeborgah unrar-free doesnt work, but unrar does :S21:27
DaSkreechSounds about right21:27
drbobbthe broadcom used to work only under ndiswrapper in the past21:28
Guest92887I don't know if this solution report is helpful DaSkreech... :-(21:28
Guest92887but apt-get --no-install-recommends install firefox-3.0 is really cool ;-) thanks again21:28
drbobbcurrently b43 works ok, except for the problem i mentioned21:28
drostieBut probably the best thing you could do is to join the channel #bcm-users and ask there.21:28
DaSkreechGuest92887: Helps me. see if you can post that in the ubuntuforums. Makes it more permanent21:28
DaSkreechnoren: You reinstall everytime ?21:29
drbobbdrostie: thx i wasn't aware of that channel21:29
Guest92887wow, I already posted on the forums, but never started a new thread...21:29
fabio_iDaskreech. No line telling that21:30
fabio_no [Compositing]21:30
DaSkreechfabio_: do you have a section that says [Compositing] ?21:30
DaSkreechok21:30
norenya dis is the third  time21:30
DaSkreechyou probably have it off then21:30
fabio_only [Plugins]21:30
drostiedrbobb: there's a site at http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 for the driver; I just stole the channel from there. I've no idea how active it is.21:30
DaSkreechnoren: Is it easier to do that than just sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ?21:30
DaSkreechfabio_: Ok that's fine I think21:31
DaSkreechbut kwin& still segfaults?21:31
fabio_how can I remove --purge all kde?21:31
drbobbok will see21:31
norenwill that take me to the olddeeer ver i.e kubuntu 8.1021:31
Laeborgany programs to "mount" a .daa file ?21:31
DaSkreechnoren: it will if you remove the experimental ppa21:32
fabio_no kwin does not segfaults21:32
DaSkreechfabio_: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs521:33
drostieLaeborg: daa2iso?21:33
DaSkreechfabio_: So you can move konversation now?21:33
jordi_hola21:33
fabio_then for reinstall?21:33
jordi_español?21:33
fabio_kde4-desktop?21:33
fabio_kubuntu-desktop?21:33
DaSkreechfabio_: no sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop21:33
fabio_ok, da skreech . Bye bye.21:33
fabio_Thankyou for your help.21:34
jordi_spanish channel here?21:34
fabio_I try the final weapon of dis-installing everything21:34
drostieLaeborg: (I don't know if it exists for Linux, but there's a windows version that might be able to work on wine)21:34
drostie!es jordi_21:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about es jordi_21:34
DaSkreechnoren: so remove the experimental ppa then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop21:34
drostie!es21:34
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:34
DaSkreechnoren: normal 8.1021:34
jordi_thanks21:34
jordi_!es21:34
DaSkreechescribo /join #kubuntu-es21:35
jordi_ok thanks21:35
fabio_I try DaSkreech. then I will you tell21:35
fabio_Bye21:35
DaSkreechok21:35
norenok DaSkreech i  will keep that in mind if it fails this time again21:37
Laeborgsudo poweriso extract Adobe\ Photoshop\ CS3\ v10.0\ Extended\ Incl\ Keygen.daa -od /home/laeborg/21:37
Laeborgwhats wrong there ?21:37
DaSkreechWhy do you need sudo ?21:37
Laeborgelse it says pemisson denied21:38
DaSkreechwierd. Ok21:38
jordi_no help in spanish channel :(21:38
Laeborgbut how does the poweriso thingy works?21:39
* DaSkreech shrugs21:39
DaSkreechjordi_: Ask in here if you like but it's only english in here21:39
jordi_ok21:39
drostieLaeborg: what's wrong there is that you're using a cracked version of photoshop instead of GIMP.21:39
drostie^_^21:39
DaSkreechdrostie: Good point21:40
jordi_Is it possible to prevent the access to the partitions of windows?21:40
DaSkreechYes21:41
DaSkreechread up on fstab21:41
DaSkreech!fstab21:41
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions21:41
geniiLaeborg: Incidentally, conversation of illegal activities such as key generators, etc is not allowable in this channel.21:41
jordi_I have installed kubuntu inside windows21:42
DaSkreechOh Hmm21:42
DaSkreechI don't know but I think it should be the same21:42
jordi_I am going to investigate21:42
DaSkreechgenii: on a technicallity he's asking for help on poweriso not on the warez he's using it on21:43
drostiejordi: if windows is not encrypted (criptografia) somehow, then kubuntu can probably always access the windows partitions.21:43
geniiDaSkreech: Then he should use a different file hierarchy example21:43
jordi_If I unmont the discs already is not it possible to accede to them not?21:44
DaSkreechgenii: yes he should have but had he done that we would be helping him still21:45
drostiejordi_: even if you [umount /dev/hda1] , or something like it, someone later could always [sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk]. But, they need to be able to use sudo.21:45
DaSkreechdrostie: Yes but you can restrict who can get that access21:45
DaSkreechdrostie: You can only allow certain UIDs etc21:45
geniiLaeborg: Incidentally the error in your syntax is of putting the the -od switch in between the target and sources21:46
drostiejust after he leaves you help him out? ^_^ classy.21:47
jordi_yes i want something as this, restrict the acces with a password, for example21:47
geniidrostie: Heh...to be fair I had started typing much earlier on than that :)21:47
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drostie:-D21:47
mefisto__poweriso isn't part of kubuntu anyway, is it?21:47
geniimefisto__: Correct21:47
drostiemefisto__: but wikipedia says that PowerISO is distributed for Linux, so...21:48
jordi_Only that could not touch anything of windows for mistake21:48
drostieI mean, wrong channel, sure, but it's not like what they were saying was impossible.21:48
Guest92887DaSkreech:  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101752.021:49
DaSkreechGuest92887: Nice21:49
Guest92887thanks to all nice folks here ;-)21:50
drostiejordi_: You should make sure that people cannot boot into your computer with a CD or USB key. You should also make sure that they cannot use the "sudo" command on your computer. Then they cannot mount your hard drive themselves.21:50
DaSkreechjordi_: Well they have to have sudo access by default. Only the first user has sudo so no one will be able to get to the Windows directory except the first user21:50
DaSkreechjordi_: It can't touch anything in Windows by mistake21:51
drostiejordi_: then, to make the windows partition not load on bootup, comment it out (put a # symbol in front of it) in /etc/fstab, if it exists there.21:51
drostiejordi_: (or remove the line completely.)21:52
jordi_but i can enter to windows partitons/disc/folders and modify now21:52
jordi_only i need to create another user?21:52
DaSkreechjordi_: in the file /etc/fstab find the line with that path and put a # in front of it and save21:54
DaSkreechYou will be ok after that21:54
drostieYes. Two steps. (1) Create another user. This user does not have the rights that you have. (2) Make sure that the partition is not mounted by default. This requires editing /etc/fstab.21:54
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drostieThe line you want to place the # symbol in front of will probably say "ntfs" (or maybe "vfat," "fat," or "fat32") in the third column.21:56
jordi_i don't see any ntfs...21:57
drostiejordi_: can you paste your /etc/fstab into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for us to see?21:58
jordi_i put my name?21:59
jordi_in poster?21:59
drostieDaSkreech: you probably know more about this than I: even when you don't specify something in /etc/fstab, when you plug in e.g. a USB key, there's a pop-up window that lets you select the partition and mount from there.21:59
drostiejordi_: just "jordi_" is ok. We know who you are. ^_^22:00
DaSkreechThat's udev22:00
drostieDaSkreech: could udev be leveraged to mount a windows partition somehow?22:00
jordi_done22:00
DaSkreechjordi_: give us the URL here when it's finished22:00
DaSkreechdrostie: If it's USB22:00
jordi_http://paste.ubuntu.com/119840/22:01
jordi_ok22:01
drostiejordi_: ok, you're safe. the windows partition isn't in /etc/fstab. How are you navigating through it right now?22:01
drostiejordi_: did you type [sudo mount /dev/hda1] or something like that?22:02
jordi_no22:02
jordi_but the 2 hd ntfs appears in dolphin22:03
drostieIf you right-click the path and choose "Edit...", what is the total pathname? (It looks like "/media/disk" or so.)22:04
drostie("the path" means "the list of directories that tells you where in the directory scheme Dolphin is")22:05
jordi_is for me?22:05
DaSkreechyes22:05
jordi_i don't understand sorry22:06
jordi_i'm very bad in english22:06
jordi_and the google translator is more bad22:06
jordi_XD22:06
drostiejordi_: cual es la ruta de la particion de windows?22:09
gbelhey, after update my kde yesterday, the suspend (to ram and hard drive) icons are gone... Has anyone experienced this?22:09
jordi_ok is in root/media with cdroms22:10
jordi_i can enter as a root and change the permisions of the folder22:11
jordi_is correct?22:11
jordi_and put only read22:11
jordi_i go to try this and come back22:12
drostieok. good luck.22:12
drostiewikipedia for translating, w00t. ^_^22:13
DaSkreechHa ha22:13
drostieI'm serious. I know this is off-topic, but I described a platypus to a Nederlander, and they didn't believe me that such a creature existed, until I used Wikipedia to translate the word "platypus" into Nederlands.22:14
KomiaPoikahi22:16
KomiaPoikain kde 4.2.0 i set the screensaver to autostart after 120 mins and no password lock. but it keeps starting after 10 mins and locks password. how can i fix this??22:16
DaSkreechdrostie: yes I've done that before22:18
* Secutor is away: Gone away for now.22:18
drostieKomiaPoika: if you set it via K > System Settings > Desktop, then you might still need to change K > System Settings > Advanced > Power Management or vice versa.22:18
KomiaPoikadrostie: in power management, i turned off powerdevil already22:19
KomiaPoikadrostie: but it seems to ignore my settings22:19
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KomiaPoikadrostie: oh wait i think i found a stray settings, the management profile22:20
drostieI don't think PowerDevil makes a difference if the rest of the Power Management settings still tell it to suspend to RAM and then lock the screen on resumes.22:21
KomiaPoikadrostie: its a desktop pc, how can i make sure it's running the "performance" profile at all times?22:24
drostiePower Management > General Settings, click "performance" for all of the four options there.22:25
drostieits kinda confusing, I know ^_^22:26
mefisto__or maybe disable the powerdevil service?22:26
mefisto__in service manager22:27
KomiaPoikadrostie: thx22:29
drostiegive it ten minutes, see if the problem is still around. ^_^22:30
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giarcaIs there a suicide try to upgrade kubuntu 8.10 with kde4.2 to jaunty (alpha yet if i'm right)?22:41
giarcaops... *Is a suicide...22:41
mefisto__suicide?22:42
giarcayes mefisto__22:42
giarcaI mean an action that give only problem22:43
LuijaSrry people, but i am new to kubuntu, i just started a few minutes, how i can download and install programs like mirc to kubuntu 8.10? (i am talking from vista)22:44
Luijacan someone PM pls?22:45
giarcaLuija: I'm using Konversation (the deafult program for irc protocol of kde)22:45
giarcaand it work really well22:45
Luijais exactly the same than Mirc?22:45
giarcaI think you have it installed22:45
giarcanot exactly the same22:45
giarcait's different22:45
stevenhi22:45
steveni kinda like this jubuntu22:46
stevenkubuntu22:46
giarcaLuija: try KVIRC22:46
Os3WaRphi i am also new :) i have somewhat figured out. how do i install Quake 4 or doom 322:46
mefisto__Luija: you can install programs from Adept Manager (it's in the menu)22:47
Luijabut it says something like i must be root or somethng22:48
szrhawaiidoes anyone know how to install screenlets22:48
Luijamefisto22:48
mefisto__Luija: type your password22:48
giarcaLuija: the same of your user :)22:48
szrhawaiiuse kdesudo22:48
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jcaladotrying quassell22:56
jcaladosweet!22:56
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jordi_is impossible to cahnge the permissions :(22:57
jordi_i don't like it22:57
Luijaei giarca, thx a lot, i am talking from konversation :D22:58
giarcaLuija: is different from mirc but it'a a client too :P22:58
Luijayeah, but at least is something lol thx22:58
giarca:)22:59
jordi_is possible to uninstall the ntfs compatibility or anything this?22:59
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burnierHi, I wanted to install wicd from a deb and ended up removing the plamoid network manager so now I have no internet to install wicd dependencies or installing the plasmoid back... Anyone knows a quick solution?23:09
coteyrattach to ehternet23:10
coteyrand run sudo dhclient23:10
coteyrthat will get you back on the net so you can install23:10
weltonhello, I am having problems with a realtek wireless card and my network-manager23:12
weltonsomeone can help?23:12
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DaSkreechLuija: It comes with konversation23:21
DaSkreechOs3WaRp: Quake 4 and Doom 3 should have Linux installers23:21
JuJuBeeAnybody willing to have a look at   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220493  and tell me what you think of it for Kubuntu (linux support/compatibility).23:22
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macohow can i get *all* the gtk apps i use in kde to look good? pidgin and terminator are fine, but tomboy looks like crap23:24
DaSkreechJuJuBee: Doesn't say what wifi card it has which is normally the most annoying23:24
coteyrmaco; if you find out let me know.23:27
coteyrmaco; I was never able to figure out how to apply "all" the kde colors to gtk, and I use a dark scheme so skype, and firefox, the gtk file browser always had black and while stripes.23:28
macoeh? skype's not gtk23:28
coteyrmaco; you sure?23:29
macoyeah...i'm pretty sure skype's qt23:29
macohttp://www.qtsoftware.com/qt-in-use/story/app/skype23:29
coteyrmaco; thats even worse then23:29
coteyrmaco; I can't help you at all, I can even get kde all one color23:30
macoheh23:30
macoi think skypte is qt3 though23:30
macoprobably why its not matching your qt4 system23:30
JuJuBeeDaSkreech : Right, thanks.  I will check that.  What about the other stuff?  Video nVidia 9800M ?23:30
coteyrmaco; well now the enivatable question, how doe one edit the qt3 color scheme23:31
coteyrJuJuBee; other then some heat issues Nvidia cards have been 100% on linux for a while.23:31
DaSkreechThat woks as well as the next nVidia update. Stuff like that  is just your judgement on the company's support so far23:31
mefisto__maco: do you have gtk styles & fonts in systemsettings > appearance?23:31
coteyrJuJuBee; but there linux drivers != their windows drivers, there are some diffrences, mostly in throtteling and cooling.23:32
macomefisto__: i have it set to use ClearlooksClassic for GTK23:32
DaSkreechAnd sucking23:32
macomefisto__: it works fine for firefox, pidgin, gwibber, and terminator. tomboy looks like GTK 1 though23:33
drostieAccording to Asus.com, the G71V is an Intel WiMAX/WiFi Link 5100 wireless adapter. Presumably the G71G is similar.23:34
JuJuBeeDaSkreech : Seems like they prob use Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN  Best I can figure.  Cant find that model number on their site... weird.23:34
macowhat?23:34
macoyou're having trouble detecting a 4965?23:35
DaSkreechmaco: He's trying to figure out if he will when he buys it23:35
macoah23:35
JuJuBeemaco, trying to figure out what wifi chipset is in and Asus G71G - X3 notebook.  Cant find that one on Asus' site.  Listed on NewEgg for $160023:36
JuJuBeeBut NewEgg doesn;t specify wifi chipset.23:37
drostieHow would I check what wireless adapter's in my computer? I can't remember where I found it last time I looked.23:37
drostieI'm pretty sure it was an Intel though.23:37
macodrostie: lspci23:37
DaSkreechsudo lshw -C network23:38
drostiethanks. JuJu: if it's an Intel 5100, that's what I have. works out of the box.23:39
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drostie(Well, I should specify that on the Jaunty alpha I had to start knetworkmanager manually. But in Intrepid it worked out of the box, and it was never a driver problem.)23:40
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psycohey, anyone have a good dock that works with kde 4.2 and looks good?23:43
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psycorofl copyright?23:46
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DaSkreech2003 too23:46
macowhy don't we have a floodbot in here?23:46
joarchello folks23:47
DaSkreechmaco: freenode does flood mitigation itself23:47
DaSkreech!hi23:47
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:47
joarcwhere's the best place to connect for assistance with setting up samba on kubuntu?23:47
joarchi23:47
macoDaSkreech: uh. fail.23:47
bernierHi, every startup, I get an error saying akonadi cannot start for D-bus reasons and no agent found and  other things .. anyone know why?23:47
macoDaSkreech: in #ubuntu there's a bot that de-voices after 3 or 4 lines23:48
psycoso yeah uuhh23:48
psycoanyone have a good dock that works with kde 4.2 and looks good?23:48
DaSkreechmaco: Ubuntu has a crazy amount of traffic23:49
DaSkreechThre are more users on that one chan than any other cahn in Freenode23:49
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DaSkreechAnd they talk a lot23:49
JuJuBeeDaSkreech : Called Asus, either Intel 5100 or Atheros 770 wifi chipset.  THey were not certain.  It could have either one...23:49
DaSkreechJuJuBee: Yeah for most laptops the wifi chipset you get is a dice roll23:49
JuJuBeeHow do I check these for compat with linux?23:50
DaSkreechOne of two or three chipsets. Whichever happened to be cheapest the month they made the laptop23:50
DaSkreechResearch23:50
XenosFinally figured out why all my Kubuntu installs failed miserably. It didn't like my USB drives being plugged in...23:50
macoJuJuBee: intel and atheros are both win on linux23:50
macoJuJuBee: someone said above that they have the intel 5100 and it works out of the box. intel wifi pretty much always does. atheros, there are 2 possible drivers, so you might need to install the linux-backports-modules package, but that's it23:51
JuJuBeeK, sounds like this is a good one then.  Thanks for the help.23:52
XenosIt doesn't mind them being plugged in now (detects fine etc), but froze installation on drive detection bit every time until I plugged them out. (The USB drives)23:52
jonatasboa noite a todos23:57
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jonatasolha pessoal instalei linux no meu pc e ate gostei so tem um problema minha webcam nao funciona sera q alguem pode me ajudar23:58
maco!pt | jonatas23:59
ubottujonatas: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.23:59

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