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jmlmaxb: so, by default, it would force you to connect via bzr+ssh to get the stacked-on branch00:00
jmlmaxb: but Launchpad messes with the stacked-on URL when it moves things from the upload area to the public area00:00
jmlmaxb: so that the URL looks like '/~foo/bar/baz'00:00
jmlRainCT: I'm chasing up a soyuz guy for you00:00
RainCTjml: great, thanks00:01
jmlRainCT: is it still hanged?00:02
RainCTjml: yep00:02
jmlRainCT: so, I can't find any soyuz guys who are awake00:10
jmlRainCT: and I can't see any probs with our server right now...00:11
jmltime to google!00:11
jmlwgrant: do you know a workaround for a hanged upload to Ubuntu?00:11
* Ursinha looks at spm 00:14
spmUrsinha: heyo!00:14
Ursinhaspm, hi!00:14
Ursinhaspm, can you give me a little help with your ducky incantations? :P00:15
* spm is soooo tempted to say "No!!!! It's MY rubberducky and I'm not sharing!" :-P00:15
spmUrsinha: sure, shoot00:16
wgrantjml: It's almost always a problem with the uploader's Internet connection.00:16
wgrantRainCT: ^^00:17
wgrantThough there was a dput bug years ago.00:17
wgrantThere's no one solution.00:17
jmlwgrant: thanks.00:17
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RainCTWell, I'll try again tomorrow then (if I have time -.-).  Thanks, and good night! :)00:18
jmlRainCT: g'night.00:18
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jmlhow's it going Launchpadders?03:22
Ursinhapretty cool jml03:47
jmlUrsinha: glad to hear it :)03:49
jmlUrsinha: when do you sleep?03:49
Ursinhajml, :)03:49
Ursinhajml, soonish03:50
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jmlxchat is terrible.04:38
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MTecknologyjoey: how's it goign?05:53
UrsinhaMTecknology: joey is sleeping now :)05:54
Ursinhawhere in the world are you?05:54
MTecknologyUrsinha: -605:55
MTecknologyUrsinha: I tend to get about 4hr sleep a day :(05:55
UrsinhaMTecknology: it's 3am over here :)05:55
MTecknologythat's when I'll get to sleep05:55
MTecknologyyou're -3 then?05:56
UrsinhaMTecknology: yes05:58
MTecknologyttyal06:00
jameshstub: hi.  I updated my pytz branch so that it gives the same errors on 64-bit and 32-bit.  Haven't looked at the cause of the errors though.07:04
stubjamesh: Do you know if your extra failures where from your test suite modification, or is my modification not triggering failures it should?07:05
stubIf my test suite is fine, the failures would all be from running on 64bit and understandable07:06
jameshthe errors for dates before 1901 are definitely 64-bit related: we only parse the 32-bit TZif info.07:07
jameshI'll check one of the others.07:07
jameshstub: I think the skip_local check is broken.07:16
jameshalso, it seems that the is_dst flag in the zdump output doesn't seem to be reliable for years with more than two offsets07:20
jameshe.g. Europe/Moscow in 191807:20
stubI know for sure we skip some odd cases such as you mention07:20
stubSuch as two dst or non-dst timezones in a single location during the same calendar year.07:21
stub(which I guess means any location with three timezones in the same calendar year)07:21
jameshstub: looks like there is a real bug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119542/07:31
jameshit determines the offset correctly when going from UTC to local, but localize() appears to be giving the wrong answer for times around that point.07:34
jameshIt won't give a +02:00 offset until 1991-09-29 03:00 -- which is the first date not covered by the DST interval.07:37
stubI see07:45
stubI'm thinking the API needs to be refactored too for a Python 3.0 release (as the API change likely cannot be done compatibility), so following the Python docs just works even if it is less featureful. We could provide a separate interface for the unambiguous local time arithmetic.07:49
stubRoll it together with Gustavos' dateutil too since there is common functionality07:52
jameshwell, this is using the pytz specific API07:52
jameshand still gives the wrong answer07:52
stubYes, but you read the docs. Questions keep coming through from people who haven't.07:53
stub(This isn't related to the bug at hand)07:54
jameshright.  I'd love it if pytz just worked when using the standard Python APIs, even if it didn't let me specify certain local times07:54
jameshhaving an extra API to handle those dates should be in addition to the standard API doing something sensible07:55
domashuh08:05
domas'bzr log' running for 10 hours already08:05
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stubjamesh: lp:~stub/pytz/moscow-1991-failure - this is pointing the finger at the first EEST timezone, which doesn't believe it is in summer time when it should be. This would mess up other calculations.09:09
wgrantDoes one really have to upload a merge diff manually through the API?09:12
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romanosHello12:57
romanosCan i make a question about creating a new translation group?12:57
romanosnone?12:59
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romanoshm?13:00
loafmanI want to import a project into launchpad that has two CVS repositories, one for source, one for web... would that equate to two branch names, SRC & WEB, or how would it be handled?13:03
henningeromanos: Hi! Have you read https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups ?13:09
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RainCTjml, wgrant: Hey. It's hanging at 68154k/68155k again :'(.13:25
RainCT(And I doubt the problem is with my connection because I could successfully upload the same file to another host -pkg-games.alioth.debian.org-..)13:26
wgrantRainCT: It's probably some snoopy 'router' between you and LP.13:26
wgrantAh.13:26
wgrantHmm.13:26
RainCTLaney just told me in #ubuntu-motu that the same happens to him (filles hang at the last byte)13:32
Laneythey don't hang forever though13:35
loafmanI want to import a project into launchpad that has two CVS repositories, one for source, one for web... would that be better as two branch names, src & web?  Or how should it be handled?  Better yet, can a single project have multiple repositories?13:37
cody-somervilleloafman, as many as you'd like13:55
RainCTnevermind, I've just uploaded it from Alioth :)13:57
loafmancody-somerville, thanks for the info!14:05
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rockstarloafman, we probably would only import the source code one.14:45
romanoshello14:52
romanosCan i as a question?14:52
romanosCan i ask a question?14:53
cprovromanos: sure14:54
romanosHow i can create a new group for ubuntu translation?14:55
romanosshall we chat on private or it's ok to speak in public?14:56
cprovromanos: public14:56
romanosok:)14:56
cprovromanos: I'm unsure about what do you mean by 'translation group'.14:57
* cprov checks the help wiki14:57
romanosI can see in my language Ubuntu Greek Translator so we(cause i represent a greek university community) want to make our group thats what i mean if u understand me :)14:58
henningeromanos: Hi! Have you read https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups ?14:58
cprovromanos: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups14:58
henningecprov: :-P14:58
romanosno i think i didnt let me check it :)14:59
cprovhenninge: you are always faster than me :-/14:59
romanosi will check it and i will reply to you :) please dont leave :D15:00
romanosit redirecting me to this link15:00
romanoshttps://help.launchpad.net/Feedback15:00
romanoswhen i click to create my <<own>> translation group :(15:01
romanosshall i email to lauchpad team?15:01
henningeromanos: We are the Launchpad team ;)15:01
henningeromanos: To create a translation group you will have to file a question on answers:15:02
henningehttps://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta15:03
henningeromanos: But please read the help page first to see if that is really what you need!15:03
romanoscan u please kindly provide me the help page?15:06
romanosps the link of help page :)15:06
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henningeromanos: ??? have you not seen it ???15:23
henningeromanos: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups15:23
henningeromanos: what are your questions?15:24
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cesar_boHello All, I have this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~openit.com.bo/openweb/trunk, I send a propose to merge it into the branch. I aprove it, But how I Merge It?15:59
MTecknologycesar_bo: afaik, you just have to manually merge it into your source16:00
MTecknologyjust branch the first, move to the second, and push the second16:01
cesar_boMTecknology: How I do this?16:01
MTecknologycesar_bo: are you the owner of the branch that is trying to me merged to?16:01
cesar_boyes16:02
MTecknologyor at least in able to commit to the branch?16:02
MTecknologybzr branch for both ; move the one to be merged into the source for the other; bzr add; bzr commit -m "Message about merge"; bzr push16:03
rockstarcesar_bo, when Launchpad 2.2.2 gets rolled out, I'll be announcing a project to help you do this automatically from now on.16:10
cesar_borockstar: Would be awesome, I am trying to manually merge right now16:11
rockstarcesar_bo, I work on a few projects, and having to be the human merger is annoying.16:11
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cesar_boMTecknology, rockstar: Well, I merge it :)16:13
cesar_borockstar: Yes !! is anoying ... :(16:13
rockstarcesar_bo, it got pushed?  Everything is good?16:14
cesar_borocstar: I am pushing right now16:14
cesar_boI had a 10kbps connection jejejej so it would take a time16:14
rockstarcesar_bo, so my project will handle this automatically, but your bandwidth issue won't make it any faster, just offload the work.16:15
cesar_bohahaha, rockstar: I know, I know ...16:16
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MTecknologymrevell: HI!16:38
MTecknologyYou're awake the same time as me!16:38
mrevellHey MTecknology!16:38
MTecknologymrevell: doing much today?16:42
MTecknologysabdfl: hi16:42
mrevellMTecknology: Yeah, you could say so :)16:42
mrevellMTecknology: Were you thinking of our Skype call?16:42
MTecknologymrevell: ya16:42
mrevellMTecknology: I'm tied up for the rest of my day, I'm afraid. How are you fixed around this time tomorrow?16:43
MTecknologyright at this time isn't possible16:43
MTecknologyif today, I was looking at 21:0016:43
MTecknologythe rest of this week is pretty well packed16:43
MTecknologyHow's next week wednesday 21:00 ?16:44
mrevellUTC?16:44
MTecknologyya16:45
MTecknologymrevell time16:45
mrevellMTecknology: Too early to say, tbh. I may be able to do 21.00 today, though.16:46
MTecknologyok16:47
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MTecknologyjust lemme know about 20.00 and I'll try to make sure I'm ready16:47
MTecknologymrevell: would you be able to give me an idea of what kinda of questions you'll be asking?16:48
MTecknologyI'd kinda like to go over a few with swe3tdave so I don't say something to tick an entire country off - again16:48
mrevellMTecknology: Cool. Sure thing: why did you create the kit, how important are the Launchpad<-->Drupal modules, how easy were they to use. Those are the main things. Which country did you annoy? :)16:49
MTecknologyoh, so easy stuff, not things like where did the project come from...16:49
MTecknologyI annoyed some country that refers to themselves as SD, because my state abbreviation is SD so I use SD LoCo in my signature. I posted to a list they read and they flipped out16:50
mrevellheh16:52
mrevellMTecknology: If you're uncomfortable talking about where the project came from then we can skip that :) It's not investigative journalism so I'd rather you were comfortable :)16:52
MTecknologywell, if I don't know the answer, I'm sure you can just chop out the stuttering :P17:00
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mrevellMTecknology: Yeah, editing is no problem :)17:04
MTecknologyhurray for technology - allowing people to make up for other people :)17:05
LaserJockLP doesn't have team junk branches yet does it?17:19
MTecknologyNot that I've ever heard of17:20
LaserJockhmm17:21
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MTecknologyfor some magic reason, my karma gre 1,000 over whatn I was expecting...17:28
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* mpt growls at bug 25289618:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 252896 in launchpad-registry "Don't show Announcements section on project home if there aren't any" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25289618:17
persiaDid something change in LP today that I didn't notice?  epiphany crashes for me when I try to file bugs (at least for the last 7 tries)18:18
SOShi guys18:32
SOSI need some help to start with launchpad18:32
SOSI have a project and I would like to start to translate it18:33
SOShave I upload the whole project?18:33
SOSor simply the items to be translate?18:34
SOSany idea?18:45
thumperdanilos, jtv: see SOSs comment above19:15
danilosthumper: thanks19:16
danilosthumper: he seems to be out19:16
thumperah damn19:16
macois there any way to invite another user to a launchpad team?19:26
lfaraonemaco: yes, only if you run the team, you can add them directly.19:43
macooh...but you can't be in the team and like "hey, so-and-so should join this too..."19:44
macolfaraone: by the way, there's a 5-a-day-participants team now. auto-reports your bug activity19:44
maco(which is why i was wondering)19:44
lfaraonemaco: hm? interesting.19:45
lfaraonemaco: (meaning I don't have to manually use the applet?)19:45
macoexactly19:45
lfaraonemaco: awesome!19:46
lfaraonemaco: how do we handle teams, anyway? (like if we want to do something as a group)19:48
lfaraonemaco: moreover, we *could* add the whole DC loco team to the five-a-day team... <_<;19:49
lfaraonemaco: (you/kjcole can do those kind of chains)19:49
macoi can?19:50
lfaraonemaco: well, if you were an administrator19:50
macolemme ask dholbach how that works19:50
macohe's offline. ill ask at 2am19:50
lfaraonemaco: have kjcole (or you if you have the rights) visit https://edge.launchpad.net/~5-a-day-participants/+add-my-teams and check the box. (may not appear if you do not have the authority)19:52
macoyeah has to be kjcole. i'm only able to add swfdec or nu ubuntu :{19:52
maco*:P19:52
lfaraonemaco: well, dc-loco is *part* of nu ubuntu :)19:54
macois it? i thought i removed it19:54
macoi was cleaning up nu ubuntu. most teams want out so their pages stop saying they're all dead19:54
MTecknologymrevell-dinner: hi ;019:57
MTecknology:)*19:57
MTecknologymaco: nu ubuntu?20:09
MTecknologyoh20:10
maconortheast team20:10
macofrom when we were regionally divided20:10
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cyberixI'd like to be a human relations person for a free software project.20:30
cyberixnow20:30
cyberixIf I go and create the team in Launchpad myself20:30
cyberixCan I later transfer ownership of that group to the leader of that project?20:31
RAOFcyberix: Yes.20:32
cyberixso I can actually transfer ownership? not only rights?20:33
cyberixI mean I could ask him to create the group instead20:33
cyberixand I'd not want my name to be displayed on front page forever20:33
RAOFI'm fairly sure you can transfer ownership.20:34
MTeck-mobilemrevell, If you want to do that call, I think I'm up for it.21:00
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mrooneyIs there a way to be notified of new blueprints, or is the only way to keep polling the blueprints page?22:04
mrooneyFor a specific project, I should say22:04
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mrooneyOr, shall I file a blueprint/bug for this?22:24
mwhudsonmrooney: file look for a bug, i think22:29
mwhudsonadding a feed shouldn't be too much work i hope...22:29
mrooneymwhudson: A feed would be cool but I was more hoping for the ability to subscribe in LP like you can to bugs or questions22:30
mrooneyso owners of projects know when people file new ideas22:31
mwhudsonyeah, it's a bit odd that you can't do that22:31
mrooneymwhudson: yeah :)22:31
mrooneyso look for a bug and file one if it doesn't exist?22:32
mwhudsonyep22:32
mwhudsonmrooney: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/22392822:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 223928 in blueprint "Add structural subscription to blueprints" [High,Triaged]22:33
cyberixIs there a way how you could link a project and a team together without granting any project rights to team members?23:11
Ursinhacyberix: hmm, don't think so23:23
jmlcyberix: what relationship does the team have to the project?23:27
mae^how do I allow others to commit to my branch?23:41
thumpermae^: make a team own it23:52
MTecknologymae^: only the owner can commit23:53
mae^MTecknology: what if the team owns it?23:53
mae^thumper: how do I do that?23:54
mae^aha! click on the ! icon23:54
MTecknologymae^: sorry, was just about to answer :P23:55
mae^hrmm.. I'm the only option. I guess that means I'm not on a team23:55
MTecknologyya, create a team, edit the project, drop down box for the team23:55
mae^alright. thanks23:55

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