[00:00] maxb: so, by default, it would force you to connect via bzr+ssh to get the stacked-on branch [00:00] maxb: but Launchpad messes with the stacked-on URL when it moves things from the upload area to the public area [00:00] maxb: so that the URL looks like '/~foo/bar/baz' [00:00] RainCT: I'm chasing up a soyuz guy for you [00:01] jml: great, thanks [00:02] RainCT: is it still hanged? [00:02] jml: yep [00:10] RainCT: so, I can't find any soyuz guys who are awake [00:11] RainCT: and I can't see any probs with our server right now... [00:11] time to google! [00:11] wgrant: do you know a workaround for a hanged upload to Ubuntu? [00:14] * Ursinha looks at spm [00:14] Ursinha: heyo! [00:14] spm, hi! [00:15] spm, can you give me a little help with your ducky incantations? :P [00:15] * spm is soooo tempted to say "No!!!! It's MY rubberducky and I'm not sharing!" :-P [00:16] Ursinha: sure, shoot [00:16] jml: It's almost always a problem with the uploader's Internet connection. [00:17] RainCT: ^^ [00:17] Though there was a dput bug years ago. [00:17] There's no one solution. [00:17] wgrant: thanks. === matsubara-dinner is now known as matsubara [00:18] Well, I'll try again tomorrow then (if I have time -.-). Thanks, and good night! :) [00:18] RainCT: g'night. === abentley1 is now known as abentley === jml changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: jml (away) | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net === _[PUPPETS]Gonzo is now known as [PUPPETS]Gonzo === jml changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: jml | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net [03:22] how's it going Launchpadders? [03:47] pretty cool jml [03:49] Ursinha: glad to hear it :) [03:49] Ursinha: when do you sleep? [03:49] jml, :) [03:50] jml, soonish === jml changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: - === jml changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: - | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net [04:38] xchat is terrible. === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha [05:53] joey: how's it goign? [05:54] MTecknology: joey is sleeping now :) [05:54] where in the world are you? [05:55] Ursinha: -6 [05:55] Ursinha: I tend to get about 4hr sleep a day :( [05:55] MTecknology: it's 3am over here :) [05:55] that's when I'll get to sleep [05:56] you're -3 then? [05:58] MTecknology: yes [06:00] ttyal [07:04] stub: hi. I updated my pytz branch so that it gives the same errors on 64-bit and 32-bit. Haven't looked at the cause of the errors though. [07:05] jamesh: Do you know if your extra failures where from your test suite modification, or is my modification not triggering failures it should? [07:06] If my test suite is fine, the failures would all be from running on 64bit and understandable [07:07] the errors for dates before 1901 are definitely 64-bit related: we only parse the 32-bit TZif info. [07:07] I'll check one of the others. [07:16] stub: I think the skip_local check is broken. [07:20] also, it seems that the is_dst flag in the zdump output doesn't seem to be reliable for years with more than two offsets [07:20] e.g. Europe/Moscow in 1918 [07:20] I know for sure we skip some odd cases such as you mention [07:21] Such as two dst or non-dst timezones in a single location during the same calendar year. [07:21] (which I guess means any location with three timezones in the same calendar year) [07:31] stub: looks like there is a real bug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119542/ [07:34] it determines the offset correctly when going from UTC to local, but localize() appears to be giving the wrong answer for times around that point. [07:37] It won't give a +02:00 offset until 1991-09-29 03:00 -- which is the first date not covered by the DST interval. [07:45] I see [07:49] I'm thinking the API needs to be refactored too for a Python 3.0 release (as the API change likely cannot be done compatibility), so following the Python docs just works even if it is less featureful. We could provide a separate interface for the unambiguous local time arithmetic. [07:52] Roll it together with Gustavos' dateutil too since there is common functionality [07:52] well, this is using the pytz specific API [07:52] and still gives the wrong answer [07:53] Yes, but you read the docs. Questions keep coming through from people who haven't. [07:54] (This isn't related to the bug at hand) [07:54] right. I'd love it if pytz just worked when using the standard Python APIs, even if it didn't let me specify certain local times [07:55] having an extra API to handle those dates should be in addition to the standard API doing something sensible [08:05] huh [08:05] 'bzr log' running for 10 hours already === stub1 is now known as stub [09:09] jamesh: lp:~stub/pytz/moscow-1991-failure - this is pointing the finger at the first EEST timezone, which doesn't believe it is in summer time when it should be. This would mess up other calculations. [09:12] Does one really have to upload a merge diff manually through the API? === nijaba` is now known as nijaba === JanC_ is now known as JanC === salgado-afk is now known as salgado === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [12:57] Hello [12:57] Can i make a question about creating a new translation group? [12:59] none? === romanos is now known as Dawndeath === Dawndeath is now known as romanos [13:00] hm? [13:03] I want to import a project into launchpad that has two CVS repositories, one for source, one for web... would that equate to two branch names, SRC & WEB, or how would it be handled? [13:09] romanos: Hi! Have you read https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups ? === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl [13:25] jml, wgrant: Hey. It's hanging at 68154k/68155k again :'(. [13:26] (And I doubt the problem is with my connection because I could successfully upload the same file to another host -pkg-games.alioth.debian.org-..) [13:26] RainCT: It's probably some snoopy 'router' between you and LP. [13:26] Ah. [13:26] Hmm. [13:32] Laney just told me in #ubuntu-motu that the same happens to him (filles hang at the last byte) [13:35] they don't hang forever though [13:37] I want to import a project into launchpad that has two CVS repositories, one for source, one for web... would that be better as two branch names, src & web? Or how should it be handled? Better yet, can a single project have multiple repositories? [13:55] loafman, as many as you'd like [13:57] nevermind, I've just uploaded it from Alioth :) [14:05] cody-somerville, thanks for the info! === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [14:45] loafman, we probably would only import the source code one. [14:52] hello [14:52] Can i as a question? [14:53] Can i ask a question? [14:54] romanos: sure [14:55] How i can create a new group for ubuntu translation? [14:56] shall we chat on private or it's ok to speak in public? [14:56] romanos: public [14:56] ok:) [14:57] romanos: I'm unsure about what do you mean by 'translation group'. [14:57] * cprov checks the help wiki [14:58] I can see in my language Ubuntu Greek Translator so we(cause i represent a greek university community) want to make our group thats what i mean if u understand me :) [14:58] romanos: Hi! Have you read https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups ? [14:58] romanos: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups [14:58] cprov: :-P [14:59] no i think i didnt let me check it :) [14:59] henninge: you are always faster than me :-/ [15:00] i will check it and i will reply to you :) please dont leave :D [15:00] it redirecting me to this link [15:00] https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback [15:01] when i click to create my <> translation group :( [15:01] shall i email to lauchpad team? [15:01] romanos: We are the Launchpad team ;) [15:02] romanos: To create a translation group you will have to file a question on answers: [15:03] https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta [15:03] romanos: But please read the help page first to see if that is really what you need! [15:06] can u please kindly provide me the help page? [15:06] ps the link of help page :) === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara [15:23] romanos: ??? have you not seen it ??? [15:23] romanos: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/Groups [15:24] romanos: what are your questions? === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [15:59] Hello All, I have this branch https://code.launchpad.net/~openit.com.bo/openweb/trunk, I send a propose to merge it into the branch. I aprove it, But how I Merge It? [16:00] cesar_bo: afaik, you just have to manually merge it into your source [16:01] just branch the first, move to the second, and push the second [16:01] MTecknology: How I do this? [16:01] cesar_bo: are you the owner of the branch that is trying to me merged to? [16:02] yes [16:02] or at least in able to commit to the branch? [16:03] bzr branch for both ; move the one to be merged into the source for the other; bzr add; bzr commit -m "Message about merge"; bzr push [16:10] cesar_bo, when Launchpad 2.2.2 gets rolled out, I'll be announcing a project to help you do this automatically from now on. [16:11] rockstar: Would be awesome, I am trying to manually merge right now [16:11] cesar_bo, I work on a few projects, and having to be the human merger is annoying. === jelmer_ is now known as jelmer [16:13] MTecknology, rockstar: Well, I merge it :) [16:13] rockstar: Yes !! is anoying ... :( [16:14] cesar_bo, it got pushed? Everything is good? [16:14] rocstar: I am pushing right now [16:14] I had a 10kbps connection jejejej so it would take a time [16:15] cesar_bo, so my project will handle this automatically, but your bandwidth issue won't make it any faster, just offload the work. [16:16] hahaha, rockstar: I know, I know ... === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:38] mrevell: HI! [16:38] You're awake the same time as me! [16:38] Hey MTecknology! [16:42] mrevell: doing much today? [16:42] sabdfl: hi [16:42] MTecknology: Yeah, you could say so :) [16:42] MTecknology: Were you thinking of our Skype call? [16:42] mrevell: ya [16:43] MTecknology: I'm tied up for the rest of my day, I'm afraid. How are you fixed around this time tomorrow? [16:43] right at this time isn't possible [16:43] if today, I was looking at 21:00 [16:43] the rest of this week is pretty well packed [16:44] How's next week wednesday 21:00 ? [16:44] UTC? [16:45] ya [16:45] mrevell time [16:46] MTecknology: Too early to say, tbh. I may be able to do 21.00 today, though. [16:47] ok === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [16:47] just lemme know about 20.00 and I'll try to make sure I'm ready [16:48] mrevell: would you be able to give me an idea of what kinda of questions you'll be asking? [16:48] I'd kinda like to go over a few with swe3tdave so I don't say something to tick an entire country off - again [16:49] MTecknology: Cool. Sure thing: why did you create the kit, how important are the Launchpad<-->Drupal modules, how easy were they to use. Those are the main things. Which country did you annoy? :) [16:49] oh, so easy stuff, not things like where did the project come from... [16:50] I annoyed some country that refers to themselves as SD, because my state abbreviation is SD so I use SD LoCo in my signature. I posted to a list they read and they flipped out [16:52] heh [16:52] MTecknology: If you're uncomfortable talking about where the project came from then we can skip that :) It's not investigative journalism so I'd rather you were comfortable :) [17:00] well, if I don't know the answer, I'm sure you can just chop out the stuttering :P === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [17:04] MTecknology: Yeah, editing is no problem :) [17:05] hurray for technology - allowing people to make up for other people :) [17:19] LP doesn't have team junk branches yet does it? [17:20] Not that I've ever heard of [17:21] hmm === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [17:28] for some magic reason, my karma gre 1,000 over whatn I was expecting... === kyselejsyrecek1 is now known as kyselejsyrecek === mrevell is now known as mrevell-dinner === jelmer_ is now known as Guest94594 [18:17] * mpt growls at bug 252896 [18:17] Launchpad bug 252896 in launchpad-registry "Don't show Announcements section on project home if there aren't any" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/252896 [18:18] Did something change in LP today that I didn't notice? epiphany crashes for me when I try to file bugs (at least for the last 7 tries) [18:32] hi guys [18:32] I need some help to start with launchpad [18:33] I have a project and I would like to start to translate it [18:33] have I upload the whole project? [18:34] or simply the items to be translate? [18:45] any idea? [19:15] danilos, jtv: see SOSs comment above [19:16] thumper: thanks [19:16] thumper: he seems to be out [19:16] ah damn [19:26] is there any way to invite another user to a launchpad team? [19:43] maco: yes, only if you run the team, you can add them directly. [19:44] oh...but you can't be in the team and like "hey, so-and-so should join this too..." [19:44] lfaraone: by the way, there's a 5-a-day-participants team now. auto-reports your bug activity [19:44] (which is why i was wondering) [19:45] maco: hm? interesting. [19:45] maco: (meaning I don't have to manually use the applet?) [19:45] exactly [19:46] maco: awesome! [19:48] maco: how do we handle teams, anyway? (like if we want to do something as a group) [19:49] maco: moreover, we *could* add the whole DC loco team to the five-a-day team... <_<; [19:49] maco: (you/kjcole can do those kind of chains) [19:50] i can? [19:50] maco: well, if you were an administrator [19:50] lemme ask dholbach how that works [19:50] he's offline. ill ask at 2am [19:52] maco: have kjcole (or you if you have the rights) visit https://edge.launchpad.net/~5-a-day-participants/+add-my-teams and check the box. (may not appear if you do not have the authority) [19:52] yeah has to be kjcole. i'm only able to add swfdec or nu ubuntu :{ [19:52] *:P [19:54] maco: well, dc-loco is *part* of nu ubuntu :) [19:54] is it? i thought i removed it [19:54] i was cleaning up nu ubuntu. most teams want out so their pages stop saying they're all dead [19:57] mrevell-dinner: hi ;0 [19:57] :)* [20:09] maco: nu ubuntu? [20:10] oh [20:10] northeast team [20:10] from when we were regionally divided === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF [20:30] I'd like to be a human relations person for a free software project. [20:30] now [20:30] If I go and create the team in Launchpad myself [20:31] Can I later transfer ownership of that group to the leader of that project? [20:32] cyberix: Yes. [20:33] so I can actually transfer ownership? not only rights? [20:33] I mean I could ask him to create the group instead [20:33] and I'd not want my name to be displayed on front page forever [20:34] I'm fairly sure you can transfer ownership. [21:00] mrevell, If you want to do that call, I think I'm up for it. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === kiko is now known as kiko-phone === bac is now known as fakestevejobs === fakestevejobs is now known as bac === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === mtaylor_ is now known as mtaylor === poolie1 is now known as poolie === kiko-phone is now known as kiko [22:04] Is there a way to be notified of new blueprints, or is the only way to keep polling the blueprints page? [22:04] For a specific project, I should say === mwhudson changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: mwhudson | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net [22:24] Or, shall I file a blueprint/bug for this? [22:29] mrooney: file look for a bug, i think [22:29] adding a feed shouldn't be too much work i hope... [22:30] mwhudson: A feed would be cool but I was more hoping for the ability to subscribe in LP like you can to bugs or questions [22:31] so owners of projects know when people file new ideas [22:31] yeah, it's a bit odd that you can't do that [22:31] mwhudson: yeah :) [22:32] so look for a bug and file one if it doesn't exist? [22:32] yep [22:33] mrooney: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/223928 [22:33] Ubuntu bug 223928 in blueprint "Add structural subscription to blueprints" [High,Triaged] [23:11] Is there a way how you could link a project and a team together without granting any project rights to team members? [23:23] cyberix: hmm, don't think so [23:27] cyberix: what relationship does the team have to the project? [23:41] how do I allow others to commit to my branch? [23:52] mae^: make a team own it [23:53] mae^: only the owner can commit [23:53] MTecknology: what if the team owns it? [23:54] thumper: how do I do that? [23:54] aha! click on the ! icon [23:55] mae^: sorry, was just about to answer :P [23:55] hrmm.. I'm the only option. I guess that means I'm not on a team [23:55] ya, create a team, edit the project, drop down box for the team [23:55] alright. thanks