[00:02] <perilousapricot> yeah, it shows all the recordings
[00:02] <perilousapricot> just the disk usage isn't there
[00:03] <perilousapricot> http://pastebin.com/dff7b919
[00:03] <perilousapricot> is the output
[00:17] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, sorry, see above, I forgot to quote your name
[00:31] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: do a ls -la ~/.mythtv/config.xml
[00:32] <perilousapricot> it's empty
[00:32] <perilousapricot> -rw-r--r-- 1 amelo amelo 0 2009-02-17 14:08 /home/amelo/.mythtv/config.xml
[00:33] <rhpot1991> that is weird
[00:33] <rhpot1991> have you run the frontend as this user?
[00:40] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: that file should have the db connection info in it, and mythtv-status looks for that.  If you run the frontend as that user then it should populate it, if you aren't going to be running the frontend as that user then make a symlink to /etc/mythtv/config.xml instead
[00:42] <perilousapricot> I'm running the frontend as a user right now
[00:43] <rhpot1991> the user who ran mythtv-status there though?
[00:44] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: each user had their own home directory, and the perl mythtv bindings expect that config file to live there for whoever it is running as
[00:45] <perilousapricot> same user
[00:45] <perilousapricot> the same user that's running the frontend is running mythtv-status
[00:46] <rhpot1991> hmmm did you do upnp backend by chance?
[00:46] <perilousapricot> I'm pretty use I manually entered it so that it would work with the ipod touch remote application'
[00:47] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: thats weird, try this (if you can), close the frontend then delete that file and then relaunch the frontend
[00:47] <perilousapricot> k, 2 seconds
[00:47] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: this is from the weekly builds right?
[00:47] <perilousapricot> yes
[00:49] <perilousapricot> okay, redid it, the config.xml got populated, but the mythtv-status is still incorrect
[00:49] <dashcloud> any ideas why mythweb is suddenly timing out instantly? (I remember installing the php updates recently, and I think it stopped working around that time)
[00:49] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: same as the pastebin you did or different?
[00:49] <perilousapricot> the dbi connection error isn't there
[00:50] <perilousapricot> a couple things different, let me repaste
[00:50] <rhpot1991> ok
[00:51] <nOStahl> hi guys. im trying to do svideo out to my tv but its all black and white any idea's  where to start looking to get this fixed?
[00:51] <perilousapricot> http://pastebin.com/d7002b536
[00:51] <perilousapricot> n0stahl - is it distorted otherwise
[00:52] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: do a locate config.xml and pastebin that
[00:53] <perilousapricot> http://pastebin.com/d67e2682f
[00:53] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: verify that /root/.mythtv/config.xml has something in it
[00:53] <rhpot1991> and then run mythtv-status without the verbose
[00:54] <rhpot1991> I think that weird line is debugging stuffs
[00:54] <perilousapricot> the /root/mythtv/config.xml is from an older version when that machine had a different ip address
[00:55] <rhpot1991> maybe not actually
[00:55] <perilousapricot> mythtv-status gives this still:
[00:55] <perilousapricot> Total Disk Space: Total space is __drive_total_total__ MB, with __drive_total_used__ MB used (unknown)
[00:55] <perilousapricot> Total Disk Space: Total space is 102,350 MB, with 74,594 MB used (72.9%)
[00:55] <perilousapricot> but not the debug lines
[00:55] <perilousapricot> wait, it still is giving the debug lines
[00:55] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: is /root/.mythtv/config.xml a symlink or the actual file?
[00:56] <perilousapricot> it's a real file
[00:56] <rhpot1991> I don't see an /etc/mythtv/config.xml in here, see if that exists
[00:56] <rhpot1991> so you dropped that there at some point?
[00:58] <perilousapricot> I didn't do it manually
[00:58] <perilousapricot> there's a mysql.txt but no config.xml in /etc/mythtv
[00:59] <rhpot1991> do a dpkg -l mythtv
[00:59] <rhpot1991> get me the full version of that
[01:00] <perilousapricot> do you mean with a wildcard?
[01:00] <perilousapricot> or with just 'mythtv'
[01:00] <rhpot1991> just mythtv should be enough
[01:00] <nOStahl> perilousapricot it is not distorted at all
[01:00] <perilousapricot> ||/ Name                    Version                 Description
[01:00] <perilousapricot> +++-[01:00] <perilousapricot> ii  mythtv                  0.21.0+trunk19951-0ubun A personal video recorder application (client and server)
[01:00] <tgm4883> wtf?
[01:00] <tgm4883> 0.21.0+trunk19951-0ubun
[01:01] <perilousapricot> I guess it cut it off
[01:01] <tgm4883> so is that .21 or .22?
[01:01] <perilousapricot> .22
[01:01] <rhpot1991> wait how is it .22?
[01:01] <nOStahl> perilousapricot its not distorted at all just black and white. what should i do
[01:01] <rhpot1991> ah trunk
[01:01] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, one second
[01:01] <rhpot1991> that would explain it
[01:01] <rhpot1991> my config.xml change is in fixes not in trunk
[01:02] <perilousapricot> yeah, it's the trunk, there's not an official .22 tagged yet
[01:02] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, ahhhh
[01:02] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: ok so you gotta do some crap by hand now
[01:02] <rhpot1991> copy that config.xml out of your ~/.mythtv dir into /ec/mythtv/
[01:02] <rhpot1991> then symlink from /.root/.mythtv/ to it
[01:03] <rhpot1991> and from /home/mythtv/.mythtv/
[01:03] <perilousapricot> okay
[01:03] <perilousapricot> one sec
[01:03] <rhpot1991> I'll talk to superm1 and see about getting those changes in there or not
[01:04] <perilousapricot> waiiiiit
[01:04] <rhpot1991> heh, take your time
[01:04] <perilousapricot> I'm on the wrong machine
[01:04] <perilousapricot> wait, I as on the right one
[01:04] <perilousapricot> ssh gets confusing
[01:06] <perilousapricot> no dice, rhpot1991
[01:07] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: no dice how
[01:07] <rhpot1991> still have some stuff to do
[01:08] <perilousapricot> no dice as in there was no change
[01:08] <perilousapricot> I'm not concerned though, i was just letting you know in case it needed to be fixed
[01:09] <rhpot1991> do sudo /etc/cron.daily/mythtv-status
[01:09] <perilousapricot> no output
[01:10] <rhpot1991> wont be any
[01:10] <rhpot1991> it regenerates some of the info
[01:10] <rhpot1991> now run mythtv-status again
[01:10] <perilousapricot> same
[01:10] <dashcloud> anyone have an idea where I can find the things mentioned in this error message?  Unknown: Cannot use both zlib.output_compression and output_handler together!! in <b>Unknown</b> on line <b>0</b><br />
[01:11] <perilousapricot> dashcloud, somewhere beneath /etc/php5
[01:11] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: verify that the info in /.root/.mythtv/config.xml is the same as ~/.mythtv/config.xml ?
[01:11] <perilousapricot> those are php configuration options
[01:12] <nOStahl> hrmm looks like i need to add some lines to xorg.conf?
[01:12] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, what video card do you have?
[01:12] <nOStahl> intel graphics
[01:12] <dashcloud> perilousapricot: thanks
[01:12] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, diff says they're the same
[01:12] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, hmm, I don't know about that
[01:12] <rhpot1991> perilousapricot: you may have found a bug then
[01:12] <nOStahl> i've had it doing color in the past
[01:12] <nOStahl> it was a year ago heh
[01:12] <rhpot1991> I'd file a bug report on it
[01:13] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, it may actually be a problem with your cable if you're using svideo
[01:13] <rhpot1991> all the info is there though, so its usable at least
[01:13] <perilousapricot> svideo has a separate connector for the color information
[01:13] <perilousapricot> rhpot1991, yeah
[01:13] <nOStahl> its not the cable
[01:13] <nOStahl> its a good cable
[01:13] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, how do you know? :)
[01:13] <nOStahl> cause i tested it :)
[01:17] <thegrumpygnome> hello, I m running 8.10 on a new install on a dc530 (3.0 ghz) pc.  the movie onthe lcd looks fine but on the geforce (128mb) tv out card it skips frames.
[01:17] <thegrumpygnome> I've tried finding the info on the wiki but came up with nothing for my problem
[01:18] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, if you run the frontend in a console, do you get any error messages?
[01:19] <thegrumpygnome> hi.  well, I would have to change something some where and frankly I have no idea how to get it into that mode
[01:20] <perilousapricot> run
[01:20] <thegrumpygnome> what would you suggest?
[01:20] <nOStahl> perilousapricot what should i set it to
[01:20] <perilousapricot> mythfrontend -w -geometry 640x480
[01:21] <thegrumpygnome> should I remote in to do it or exit the app?
[01:21] <perilousapricot> you should exit the app
[01:21] <perilousapricot> and then do it from the console
[01:21] <thegrumpygnome> ok give me 2
[01:24] <thegrumpygnome> I see tear lines
[01:24] <thegrumpygnome> if things change too quickly on both the monitor and TV
[01:24] <thegrumpygnome> which is what I saw on the TV
[01:25] <thegrumpygnome> but for errors I woul have to stop the screen and look at the console I imagine
[01:25] <perilousapricot> well, do whatever it does that makes your screen go wrong, then go back and look for errors
[01:26] <thegrumpygnome> found it.  whole page.  give me a sec to write it down... basically it says it can't run in 1024x768more
[01:26] <thegrumpygnome> mode
[01:30] <nOStahl> how do i get to a term after i ctrl alt backspace in mythbuntu
[01:33] <thegrumpygnome> What I understand from this  is that the card won't support the refresh rate the Xserver is attempting to configure it for.  And that is fine, how can I tell it to drop to 800x600 for now until I can upgrade the card?
[01:33] <thegrumpygnome> Load the propritery drivers?
[01:34] <thegrumpygnome> the last time i did that and dropped the resolution it still dropped frames (pausing then moving then pausing), rather annoying.
[01:34] <dashcloud> this is really confusing- I'm getting the error I posted above despite both of those options being off and/or null
[01:35] <thegrumpygnome> would a 256mb card work?  or do you have a recomendation for a card that is best suited for this system?
[01:35] <dashcloud> is there somewhere else I should look other than /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ?
[01:36] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot, this was for you. sorry.
[01:36] <nOStahl> how do i exit to term
[01:36] <thegrumpygnome> nostahl, type exit
[01:37] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, you should be able to
[01:37] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, are you running the right driver?
[01:37] <nOStahl> i type it in the login window?
[01:38] <thegrumpygnome> nostahl disregard what I said!  I thought you wanted to exit the window.
[01:38] <nOStahl> np heh
[01:38] <nOStahl> i want to run X -configure
[01:38] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot I loaded the recomended driver during install
[01:38] <nOStahl> but i gotta get out of x
[01:40] <thegrumpygnome> nostahl check with perilousapricot.
[01:40] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a console
[01:41] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot I'll reload the driver and see.  What tv out card would you recomnetd
[01:41] <perilousapricot> then login and do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:41] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, your card should be fine
[01:41] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, what's the card?
[01:41] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, I have a ancient card that's working fine
[01:42] <nOStahl> it says x is still running
[01:42] <thegrumpygnome> I'm gonna pull it now and let you know.  It was a low end card to fix a 2nd monitor need for work.  And just becuase it will 1280x1024 on windows doesn't mean it will in linux.  We don't run heavy graphics : )
[01:42] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, you don't need to do that
[01:43] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, so you have 2 video cards in?
[01:43] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot I understand.
[01:43] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot yes.
[01:43] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, look through /var/log/xorg.0.log
[01:43] <perilousapricot> or something like that
[01:43] <thegrumpygnome> haupagge 150 and the card I have  pull to let you know what it is.
[01:43] <perilousapricot> it should enumerate it
[01:43] <thegrumpygnome> Ok, I will do that!
[01:43] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, or do a lspci -v and it'll tell what cards are plugged in
[01:44] <nOStahl> perilous that dosnt kill the x server
[01:44] <nOStahl> its still running
[01:46] <perilousapricot> you did a gdm stop?
[01:46] <perilousapricot> do a sudo killall X
[01:46] <nOStahl> just did it :)
[01:46] <perilousapricot> you need to be logged out of your X session first so it's at the username window
[01:46] <nOStahl> aye
[01:47] <nOStahl> k just reconfigured x
[01:47] <nOStahl> sucessfuly
[01:47] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot THAnks!  the card is from  Jaton corp.  Bus master is 66mhz medium device select latency 64
[01:47] <thegrumpygnome> capbilities (access denide)
[01:47] <thegrumpygnome> kernel modules nvidia, nvidiafb
[01:48] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, you have to do it as sudo
[01:48] <thegrumpygnome> lol
[01:48] <thegrumpygnome> OK
[01:48] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, to get around the access denied
[01:48] <perilousapricot> :)
[01:50] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot well it didn't reveal much!  Capabilities now reveal [60] power management ver. 2   : ))
[01:51] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, I'm looking for the model name
[01:51] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot I'm blind!  geforce mx4000
[01:52] <perilousapricot> mx400?
[01:53] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot  no, it says geforce4  mx4000
[01:53] <perilousapricot> oh, geforce 4
[01:53] <perilousapricot> it should be okay
[01:53] <perilousapricot> what's your processsor?
[01:53] <thegrumpygnome> 3.0 ghz
[01:53] <perilousapricot> oh, that should totally be more than enough
[01:53] <thegrumpygnome> yah.
[01:55] <nOStahl> back
[01:56] <Sharkonwheels> FYI - my prob with the Nvidia 6200 saying i had no card. Like a dummy I hadn't checked /var/log/messages, and it was full of "out of vmalloc" errors
[01:57] <Sharkonwheels> now the card works fine, mythbuntu is rocking on TV-out, now just gotta wait an hour for it to finish recording, and i'll drop a 2nd tuner in (Pinnacle PCTV HD PCI)
[02:02] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot I checked the xorg.0.log and did not find anything unusual in the way of errors.  In fact the list of modes  supported are up to 1280x1024.
[02:02] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot So I'm not sure what to make of it.
[02:02] <perilousapricot> there's a nvidia-configuration program somethiing or another
[02:03] <perilousapricot> try look it up in apt-cache search
[02:03] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot there is an option for that in the nvidia section.  BUT... when I load and run that the tv out is wrong.
[02:04] <thegrumpygnome> I'll try again
[02:04] <perilousapricot> yeah, make sure to save the xorg.conf
[02:04] <Sharkonwheels> think it's nvidia-settings in /usr/bin
[02:05] <Sharkonwheels> or nvidia-xconfig also in /usr/bin if you're looking for the tool to auto-mod the xorg.conf
[02:06] <perilousapricot> I think it might dong up because his other card is an intel
[02:06] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot and Sharkonwheels; I am running the open source it seems and not the propietary drivers.
[02:06] <nOStahl> gah none of these fixes are working
[02:06] <thegrumpygnome> tho last time I did it still tore
[02:07] <nOStahl> i've had it working last year heh
[02:07] <nOStahl> grrr
[02:07] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, there was a change in the last little bit if you're on jaunty that killed the drivers
[02:07] <thegrumpygnome> pffff  what's the command to determine which version I have??
[02:07] <Sharkonwheels> I couldn't get TVOut using open source vid drivers on my ATI Radeon 9550XL, and the TV-Out on the GF6200 looked ATROCIOUS without using drivers
[02:08] <Sharkonwheels> version of what?
[02:08] <thegrumpygnome> ubuntu
[02:08] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, dpkg --list | grep nvidia
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot; hope this means something to you... dpkg --list | grep nvidia
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-173-modaliases                     173.14.12-1-0ubuntu4                  Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-177-kernel-source                  177.80-0ubuntu2                       NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-177-modaliases                     177.80-0ubuntu2                       Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-71-modaliases                      71.86.04-0ubuntu10                    Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-96-modaliases                      96.43.05-0ubuntu10                    Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org drive
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-common                             0.2.4                                 Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-glx-177                            177.80-0ubuntu2                       NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
[02:11] <thegrumpygnome> ii  nvidia-settings                           177.78-0ubuntu2                       Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driv
[02:11] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, you should be able to use the 'nvidia' driver instead of the nv driver
[02:12] <Sharkonwheels> grumpy: cat /etc/*-release
[02:12] <thegrumpygnome> ok.  so in a terminal  I can just run nvidia-sttings and it will configure x?
[02:12] <perilousapricot> should
[02:12] <thegrumpygnome> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[02:12] <thegrumpygnome> DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.10
[02:12] <thegrumpygnome> DISTRIB_CODENAME=intrepid
[02:12] <thegrumpygnome> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.10"
[02:12] <Sharkonwheels> nvidia-settings is the pop-up X-based settings manager
[02:12] <Sharkonwheels> it won't run in a terminal window, with no X
[02:13] <Sharkonwheels> If you need to config the xorg.conf for the proprietary nvidia driver, then use nvidia-xconfig
[02:13] <Sharkonwheels> backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf first
[02:13] <rhpot1991> !pastebin | thegrumpygnome
[02:13] <Zinn> thegrumpygnome: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[02:14] <Sharkonwheels> rhpot1991: got the box working! had to get an Nvidia 6200-based XFX card, though.
[02:14] <Sharkonwheels> cpu util is super-low, TV-out works awesome, and it's rocking! Gonna add a 2nd tuner in about an hour, and see how that goes
[02:14] <Sharkonwheels> However, I DID swap out the RAM on that Athlon XP from 512MB to 1.5GB
[02:15] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: cool, using XvMC or no?
[02:15] <Sharkonwheels> Hmm....how do i find out? I config'd the back-end to use the PVR-x50, and i set the playback profiles to CPU--
[02:16] <Sharkonwheels> that was set to ivtv, and XvMC
[02:16] <Sharkonwheels> watching TV, cpu util is like 10-15% !
[02:16] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: normally you will have monochrome menus when it is in use
[02:17] <Sharkonwheels> like the standard MythTVmenus? or the pop-up while watching TV?
[02:18] <rhpot1991> the ones that come up while watching tv
[02:19] <thegrumpygnome> I gotta remember how to enable root again!  arg!
[02:19] <rhpot1991> thegrumpygnome: why?
[02:19] <rhpot1991> just use sudo?
[02:20] <Sharkonwheels> 1991: the pop-up menu itself in mono text, but the highlighting bar (shows waht you have selected) is green
[02:21] <thegrumpygnome> I did and it doesn't like my password.  I should reboot.  anyway I use winscp remotely to rename files.  you have to understand I am behind a firewall  and the port to the mythbox is not open to anywhere but the internal lan
[02:21] <thegrumpygnome> it can't even update unless I reneable it to go outside
[02:22] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XvMC
[02:22] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: if you have good performance without it then you don't really need it, but just keep it in mind
[02:23] <Sharkonwheels> tx for that....brb...gonna read that link :)
[02:23] <rhpot1991> I believe in CPU-- it has an entry for it at certain resolutions, I had to play around with it on my low end box (only use it for HD though)
[02:25] <Sharkonwheels> yea - still trying to figure out those playback profiles. I don't understand what all of the settings, for example the CPU--, are for. the resolution looks repeated twice to me...
[02:26] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: what it does is goes down through them in order and the first one that matches your video it uses
[02:26] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles
[02:26] <rhpot1991> that kinda explains it
[02:33] <rhpot1991> I'd prob try out slim or cpu+ first, if you aren't using XvMC
[02:39] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot / Sharkonwheels  well guys that didn't work. did sudo nvidia-settings.  indicated that all went as it should but when I restart the xserver, even restart the system, when I try to use the nvidia configuration gui it says that it is not configured in x
[02:40] <thegrumpygnome> tried it several times
[02:40] <thegrumpygnome> I'm stumped.
[02:41] <thegrumpygnome> I did backu p the configuration before hand so that much is safe.
[02:44] <Sharkonwheels> grumpy: I missed the original explanation of your problem..can u please repeat? I had an issue with my nvidia, in that when X came up, it claimed there was no nvidia board present - is this similar?
[02:45] <Sharkonwheels> 1991: is there a limit to the number of tuners one can install/use under MythTV?
[02:46] <thegrumpygnome> yes iam !  hang on a sec.  I'll retreive the info...
[02:46] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: dunno, 8 comes to mind but that might be old or I could be completely making it up.  I think anymore there is no limit
[02:47] <Sharkonwheels> long as it ain't 3-4 I'm good  :) I bought a few at circuit city, because they're 40% off, so the HVR-1600 is like $59, and the pinnacle PCTV PCI is like $43
[02:47] <thegrumpygnome> Sharkonwheels  I m running 8.10 on a new install on a dc530 (3.0 ghz) pc.  the movie onthe lcd looks fine but on the geforce4 mx4000 (128mb) tv out card it skips frames.
[02:48] <Sharkonwheels> OK - you sure it's using the proprietary driver?
[02:49] <Sharkonwheels> for exmaple, on the mythbuntu desktop, and you go to the menu, go to System, and run the Nvidia Config program?
[02:49] <thegrumpygnome> Sharkonwheels  No.  IT is not.  It is runnign the open source drivers.  and while the tv out is great.  it drops frams and tears.  Previous install used propritary drivers and could not obtain 1024 and still dropped frames.  hope Im not too cryptic abou this.
[02:50] <thegrumpygnome> per your and perilousapricot suggestions I tried to load the propietary drivers but it won't take
[02:50] <perilousapricot> wait
[02:50] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: ya you can do that many, I have 7 and have heard of people having more than that
[02:50] <perilousapricot> are you trying to use both the intel board and the nvidia board at the same time?
[02:52] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot no.  the nvidia shut off the intel board  the nvidia card has both vga out and tv out (btw)
[02:52] <perilousapricot> okay
[02:52] <perilousapricot> so you have everything plugged into the nvidia board?
[02:52] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot  Yep
[02:53] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot  I don't know if I mentioned but I am also running 1gb of ram incase that comes up.
[02:54] <thegrumpygnome> I know more is better but that will have to wait until the next upgrade : ))
[02:54] <Sharkonwheels> mine ran fine on 512MB  :)
[02:54] <Sharkonwheels> grumpy - you have only the TV-out port in use?
[02:54] <perilousapricot> you don't really need it
[02:55] <perilousapricot> the vram
[02:55] <perilousapricot> so it works vine on the regular TV, but not the TV out
[02:55] <perilousapricot> ...regular monitor
[02:55] <Sharkonwheels> yep - I bought the 1.5GB because it cost me $45. If this works out for me (which it has) then this machine will go to my kids, and I'm gonna build a mythtv-specific machine
[02:55] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, I'm not sure
[02:56] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, I've not done this before
[02:56] <perilousapricot> nOStahl, with the video card you have
[02:57] <nOStahl> i cant wait to build a duo core atom mini itx myth box
[02:57] <Sharkonwheels> grumpy - did you try using the prop drivers, and then editing the modes in the xorg.conf file?
[02:57] <Sharkonwheels> n0Stahl: will a DC atom have the necessary horsepower? I was thinking about that...
[02:57] <nOStahl> aye it does
[02:57] <Sharkonwheels> but most of them use the standard Intel onboard gfx
[02:58] <nOStahl> i can play 1080p on my eeepc 901
[02:58] <nOStahl> it has a single core atom 1.6 gig
[02:58] <Sharkonwheels> hmm...quite an idea....there's some really nifty super-small atom-based boxes out there...
[02:58] <Sharkonwheels> shuttle has some neat small ones!
[02:59] <nOStahl> i want to build one to host my sites and serve me media heh
[03:00] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot "so it works vine on the regular TV, but not the TV out"  no right now it is tearing on both.  Just not as noticable on the monitor as you dont' see as meany frames dropped.  but it is there.  I couldn't load the prpriatary drivers either.  as I stated above.
[03:00] <thegrumpygnome> sorry for the mispelling but I am getting a bit tired.
[03:00] <thegrumpygnome> ... and it will only get worse!
[03:00] <Sharkonwheels> did you try the prop. drivers, and then editing the xorg.conf to manually set the mode, and manually set TV-Out?
[03:01] <thegrumpygnome> Sharkonwheels: "grumpy - you have only the TV-out port in use?""  no, I have both in use.  does it make a difference?  once everything is working proper the omitor will go away.
[03:02] <thegrumpygnome> BTW how do you turn off the screen saver?
[03:02] <perilousapricot> thegrumpygnome, did yuo install mythbuntu-desktop
[03:02] <perilousapricot> there's a session with all that setup
[03:03] <thegrumpygnome> I did a default install
[03:03] <thegrumpygnome> so I think the answer is yes
[03:03] <perilousapricot> are your window borders black?
[03:04] <thegrumpygnome> because this is a new install and I did not update the system that could be some of my problem.
[03:04] <thegrumpygnome> Yes
[03:04] <thegrumpygnome> they are black
[03:04] <thegrumpygnome> which I do like!
[03:04] <perilousapricot> :)
[03:04] <perilousapricot> one sec
[03:05] <thegrumpygnome> well te system is up to date now and when I try to launch the nvidia utility it still says its not configure in x.conf
[03:06] <thegrumpygnome> ok, no prob
[03:19] <thegrumpygnome> perilousapricot  Sharkonwheels  well guys 4:30 is coming quickly.  I' ll pick this back up antoher time.  Thanks for th e help
[03:49] <yojimbo-san> Can I get compiz running with my mythbuntu desktop?
[03:49] <yojimbo-san> I've installed the compizconfig-settings-manager, but changes I make in these seem to be ignored (i.e. they are reverted next time I run the program) and of course none of them seem to actually do anything ...
[03:51] <yojimbo-san> I have the nvidia driver 177 enabled and running, so that isn't my problem ... :-)
[03:56] <Sharkonwheels> installed the Pinnacle PCTV PCI card - looks like sh!t compared to the Hauppauge HVR-1600
[03:56] <Sharkonwheels> has "noise" at the very top of the screen
[03:57] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: just a tad bit on the top?
[03:58] <Sharkonwheels> yep. actually, some commercials come out OK, and use almost the entire screen.
[03:58] <Sharkonwheels> for example, it's recording Star Trek Enterprise right now, and I went to 'watch rec" and it looked like sh!t
[03:59] <Sharkonwheels> a geico commercial came on, and it used the entire height of the screen so it was only a tad bit, then went back to ST:ENT and looked like hell again
[03:59] <Zinn> Sharkonwheels: Please watch your language.
[03:59] <Sharkonwheels> my bad
[03:59] <Sharkonwheels> looked like junk?
[03:59] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: its not uncommon for some channels to to have some crap on the top
[03:59] <Sharkonwheels> hmm...even though it looks fine on the HVR-1600?
[04:00] <Sharkonwheels> mebbe I should go back and get 1-2 more HVR-1600's... at $57 they're a steal, yes?
[04:00] <Sharkonwheels> heh, I'd have 2 spare remotes, too :)
[04:01] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Overscan
[04:01] <rhpot1991> that should explain the situation pretty well
[04:02] <yojimbo-san> ah. x.comg had "lost" the Extensions / Composite / Enabled setting ...
[04:04] <yojimbo-san> and ccsm needs to be run as root ...
[04:07] <vizo1> hrmm cant seem to install libdvdread4. anyone ever see this before?
[04:10] <yojimbo-san> vizo1: and the error messages are ... ?
[04:11] <vizo1>  mencoder: Depends: libdvdread4 (>= 4.1.3) but it is not installable
[04:11] <vizo1>             Depends: libx264-64 (>= 1:0.svn20080917) but it is not installable
[04:14] <noinip> anyone use vmware server and know off the top of their head where the .vmdk is stored?
[04:16] <Sharkonwheels> I seem to recall it was under one of the folders in the user dir
[04:17] <Sharkonwheels> do an 'updatedb' then 'locate vmdk'
[04:17] <Sharkonwheels> should list all the vmdk's on the system
[04:17] <noinip> awesome thanks
[04:17] <yojimbo-san> vizo1: are you mixing repositories up somehow?
[04:17] <noinip> that worked like a charm thanks again
[04:18] <vizo1> yojimbo-san: I dont think so
[04:18] <Sharkonwheels> np
[04:18] <vizo1> how can I check
[04:18] <yojimbo-san> generally you only get that if you're trying to install a package that isn't compatible with your normal system sources
[04:18] <yojimbo-san> cat /etc/apt/sources.list -- put it in the pastebin
[04:21] <vizo1> yojimbo-san: http://pastebin.ca/1340746
[04:22] <yojimbo-san> at a guess, it looks like that ppa.launchpad.net line is causing a problem ...
[04:23] <yojimbo-san> I don't think saying "univiverse" at the end helps ...  :-) a typo perhaps?
[04:24] <yojimbo-san> try fixing that word to be just "universe", then run 'sudo apt-get update', then retry your packaje install
[04:27] <vizo1> hrm Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rvm4000/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/univese/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404
[04:27] <vizo1> ok
[04:27] <yojimbo-san> still a typo :-)
[04:27] <vizo1> fah
[04:29] <Sharkonwheels> heh - rebooted, and my tuners got reversed. now PCTV is video0, HVR is video1
[04:29] <vizo1> ok now getting a gpg error?
[04:29] <Sharkonwheels> wasn't even worth saving the $10-15 getting the PCTV instead of the HVR-1600!
[04:30] <yojimbo-san> vizo1: cool, there needs to be a gpg key imported in order to use a new repository
[04:30] <yojimbo-san> I suspect you haven't found the best instructionf for this repository :-)
[04:31] <vizo1> yeah
[04:31] <yojimbo-san> what's the error about gpg?
[04:31] <yojimbo-san> does is have a NO_PUBKEY line?
[04:32] <yojimbo-san> I think http://forums.remote-exploit.org/showthread.php?t=20145 may help ...
[04:32] <yojimbo-san> wget http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/public.gpg
[04:32] <yojimbo-san> sudo apt-key add public.gpg
[04:37] <yojimbo-san> of course I'm assuming that's the right key ... however a bit of searching suggests thats only the key for ppa.launchpad.net/kb9vqf, and not rvm4000
[04:38] <yojimbo-san> ahah! vizo1 you should read https://launchpad.net/~rvm4000/+archive/ppa
[04:39] <yojimbo-san> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com  0B52FE61EE82122FE7A67AB7E59C0010A8CC3A52
[04:45] <yojimbo-san> vizo1: is that working for you?
[04:45] <vizo1> well the apt list is fixed
[04:45] <vizo1> still no joy on mencoder tho
[04:46] <yojimbo-san> same error?
[04:46] <vizo1> yah
[04:46] <vizo1> weird
[04:46] <yojimbo-san> try 'aptitude show mencoder' -- it will tell you which repository it's supposed to be coming from
[04:47] <yojimbo-san> mine is version 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu17 Section: multiverse/graphics
[04:48] <yojimbo-san> and I don't dfepend on libdvdread4 ...
[04:49] <yojimbo-san> looks like i do have libdvdread3 however
[04:49] <yojimbo-san> sadly however, I have to go now, so I can't help with the problem much more :-)
[04:49] <yojimbo-san> good luck!
[04:49] <vizo1> thanks tho
[05:16] <Sharkonwheels> all broken now...nothing works...no recording, no Watch TV  :(
[05:16] <Sharkonwheels> 1991 u still around?
[05:17] <Sharkonwheels> added a 2nd tuner (Pinnacle PCTV PCI 800i) to the original HVR-1600
[05:18] <Sharkonwheels> devices got flipped around (HVR was video0, now video1). redid back-end setup, nada
[05:41] <rhpot1991> Sharkonwheels: there is some way of dealing with that but I don't know it off the top of my head sorry
[05:41] <rhpot1991> check the forums
[05:41] <rhpot1991> !forums
[05:41] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[05:41] <rhpot1991> off to bed for me, good luck Sharkonwheels
[06:13] <Sharkonwheels> tx man - all the help is appreciated
[06:59] <CRXLPY> I thought it would be nice to start using the weekly trunk builds. After using it I now decide to downgrade to the weekly fixes builds(0.21). after starting the downgrade, I am reminded that there is no going back, once one has moved to the trunk repo. what have I just done to my system?
[07:01] <Shadow__X> did ya backup the db
[07:01] <Shadow__X> lol
[07:01] <CRXLPY> not recently
[07:04] <CRXLPY> I just changed the source back to the trunk repo and did an upgrade. i seem to have lost no ground
[07:04] <CRXLPY> that is good
[07:10] <CRXLPY> well now I am back to the issue I was trying to fix. Mytharchive and mythvideo complain that they are not compatible with the installed libraries
[07:10] <CRXLPY> this is an issue I had before I shuffled repos a few minutes ago
[07:11] <CRXLPY> the other pluginsa may also have this issue, but these are the only plugins I care about
[08:37] <ball> WOOHOO!
[08:40] <ball> For the back-end, should I use Mythbuntu, or Ubuntu Server with MythTV?
[08:58] <Shadow__X> either is fine just depends how lazy you are
[08:58] <Shadow__X> and what the main function of the server will be
[09:00] <ball> Shadow__X: PVR and general media silo
[09:01] <Shadow__X> easier just to use mythbuntu
[09:01] <Shadow__X> but you can do either
[09:01] <Shadow__X> i am off
[10:37] <jduggan> hey guys
[10:37] <jduggan> in mythweb in mythbuntu, the option to stream asx - in windows media player what codec do i need for that?
[10:37] <jduggan> says it cant find it?
[10:37] <jduggan> or shall i use vlc etc?
[18:32] <gizmobay> Anyone here using mythvodka notice that the hulu streams are busted?
[18:32] <gizmobay> Starting today
[18:35] <tgm4883> gizmobay, are they busted or are yours busted?
[18:35] <gizmobay> mine are busted
[18:35] <tgm4883> did you re-run the xml generator?
[18:35] <gizmobay> I didn't change anything so I figure others are busted
[18:35] <gizmobay> it ran with the cron job last night
[18:36] <tgm4883> errors in the log?
[18:36] <gizmobay> I ran the command from a terminal and it said not found
[18:36] <gizmobay> http 404
[18:36] <tgm4883> which command?
[18:37] <gizmobay> /usr/bin/hulu feed/name /var/tmp/partial.mov
[18:37] <tgm4883> feed/name?
[18:39] <gizmobay> sorry running two computers with an A/B switch
[18:40] <gizmobay> /usr/bin/hulu http://www.hulu.com/watch/56559 /var/tmp/iplayerdump.partial.mov
[18:41] <tgm4883> heh
[18:41] <tgm4883> and so it begins ;)
[18:41] <gizmobay> Yours works?
[18:42] <tgm4883> nope
[18:42] <tgm4883> they changed the link
[18:43] <tgm4883> the hulu script needs updated now
[18:44] <gizmobay> Okay, I figured that was going to happen
[18:45] <gizmobay> eventually
[18:45] <gizmobay> thanks for doing the package
[19:41] <noinip> Anyone have an issue where channels fail to lock after a reboot?  Once I rerun backend setup everything starts working again.  I've read a few things that suggest stopping and starting the backend after reboot fixes it but doing that everytime isn't going to work out for me.
[19:43] <gizmobay> Analog or HD?
[19:44] <noinip> HD I guess
[19:44] <noinip> No channels work at all
[19:44] <noinip> but it's an ATSC tuner
[19:45] <gizmobay> any errors in the log files?
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[19:45] <noinip> I don't know where those would be
[19:46] <gizmobay> utilities/setup -> mythbuntu logs
[19:55] <noinip> Not that I can see
[19:56] <noinip> at least nothing that didn't get resolved.  Like it tried to connect to the backend for about 30 seconds before it finally did
[19:57] <gizmobay> Is your HD OTA?
[19:57] <gizmobay> ovet the air
[19:57] <noinip> yes
[19:58] <gizmobay> Does it not just get a channel lock or does it go blank?
[19:58] <noinip> actually since it worked just then maybe it just needs more time to load.  or maybe it's because it was the second time I opened the frontend
[19:58] <noinip> no channel lock
[19:58] <noinip> 0$ signal
[19:58] <noinip> 0%
[20:00] <gizmobay> hmm, i'm using ota HD with a Kworld ATSC-110 and I haven't seen the issue you describe
[20:00] <gizmobay> except once when I had a loose connection
[20:04] <noinip> strange,  I'll have to look closer when I have more time.  I'm trying to get this all set up and get rid of the cable so I'm pretty green when it comes to all of this.
[20:04] <gizmobay> what kind of card is it?
[20:04] <noinip> I know enough to run apt-get install xchat under mythbuntu and come here though so I guess that's a pretty good start ;)
[20:07] <gizmobay> what king of tuner card do you have
[20:18] <noinip> It's an Air2PC
[20:18] <noinip> Ver 1 I think
[20:22] <gizmobay> do you have dvb-fe-bcm3510-01.fw installed?
[20:23] <noinip> yes I do
[20:23] <noinip> I"m able to tune to channels after rerunning mythtvbackendsetup
[20:23] <gizmobay> hmm, i've run out of ideas
[20:23] <noinip> it's only after rebooting does it seem to not work
[20:24] <noinip> and I think restarting the frontend fixes it
[20:25] <gizmobay> that's a pain
[21:11] <caucmyth> hello
[21:11] <caucmyth> how do i stream tv?
[21:16] <aliby> caucmyth: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ubuntu%20mythtv%20streaming
[21:17] <caucmyth> http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-1841856653263547%3Aeizsrb-eis2&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&q=ubuntu%2520mythtv%2520streaming lol
[21:28] <caucmyth> i have installed mythbuntu
[21:28] <caucmyth> and configured the tv tuner
[21:29] <caucmyth> now if i want to watch tv should i use mythtv fronend?
[21:29] <caucmyth> *frontend
[21:37] <noinip> restart and it should launch the front end for you
[21:37] <caucmyth> whatever mythtv frontend's "watch tv" doesnt work
[21:38] <caucmyth> ok restarting now :)
[21:45] <MythbuntuGuest83> hello guys
[21:45] <MythbuntuGuest83> need some help
[21:45] <rhpot1991> !ask
[21:45] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest83> i installed mythbuntu 8.10 and internet is not working
[21:47] <MythbuntuGuest83> searching the forum , but solution not working
[21:49] <MythbuntuGuest83> anyone
[21:51] <aliby> MythbuntuGuest83 have you checked to make sure the cable is plugged in?
[21:56] <MythbuntuGuest83> yes cable is working
[21:56] <MythbuntuGuest83> i got ipadres
[21:56] <MythbuntuGuest83> but just cannot acces internet
[21:56] <MythbuntuGuest83> or ping the router
[22:05] <tgm4883> MythbuntuGuest83, you have an ip address but can't ping the router?
[22:05] <tgm4883> whats the ip address?
[22:18] <MythbuntuGuest83> 192.168.2.19