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spivAnother victim of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/287154 :(00:08
ubottuUbuntu bug 287154 in launchpad-foundations ""Edit" icon is apparently difficult to recognize" [Undecided,Triaged]00:08
Andre_Gondimdoes any one can help me? I can't see any suggest here https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/apt/+pots/apt-all/pt_BR/173/+translate you too?00:10
savvasAndre_Gondim: no, not all translations have suggestions00:12
Andre_Gondimsavvas, I have someone who told there is a suggest there =/00:12
savvasAndre_Gondim: true, you're using edge, in normal there is a suggestion00:14
MTecknologyspiv: that doesn't make any sense. It's a weird looking button that sits right next to the edit it's referring to. It's Yellow which is the best color you could use for edit. If you hover, it says Edit this [thing]. On pages like the bugs, it has the word "Update" right next to it.00:14
savvasAndre_Gondim: disable edge redirection on this site: https://launchpad.net/00:14
savvasAndre_Gondim: and visit: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/apt/+pots/apt-all/pt_BR/173/+translate00:15
spivMTecknology: the icon is supposed to depict a pencil, so that it self-evidently means "edit"00:16
Andre_Gondimsavvas, thanks00:16
MTecknologyspiv: it doesn't make sense how that represents a pencil, but it's use just seems obvious...00:17
spivMTecknology: but here we had a user that figured out, somehow, that the icon meant edit (on that page at least), but calls it the "! icon"00:17
MTecknologylol00:17
spivi.e., that bug struck again00:18
spivMTecknology: I'm glad its use seems obvious to you.  Can we transplant your brain to all of our users, please? :)00:18
MTecknology:P00:19
MTecknologyspiv: I am confused....00:19
MTecknology/@@/edit00:19
MTecknologywhat does that link to?00:20
spivMTecknology: I'm not sure I understand your question.  /@@/edit is the location of the edit icon on the launchpad site...00:22
MTecknologywhat is @@00:24
MTecknologyI've never seen that before00:24
spivIt's part of a URL ;)00:26
spivIt's a convention from Zope 3, IIRC.00:26
spiv@@ sort of looks like a pair of eyes, so it is used for "view"-related things.00:26
MTecknologyoh00:27
MTecknologythat's the actual directory name then?00:27
MTecknologyinteresting00:28
spivUm, no...00:28
MTecknologyhttps://launchpad.net/@@/edit00:28
spivWhat makes you think URLs have anything to do with directories on a filesystem :)00:28
MTecknologylol - I'll just let it go - I'm not touching that source code when it's released - too much knowledge poured into this thing :P00:29
MTecknologyspiv: I hope that comment is useful00:32
MTecknologythat in place editing of titles is really really neat00:33
spivYeah, it is.  Except that it turns out the green tick on the grey circle is invisible to people red-green colour blindness...00:34
spiv(I guess the moral of the story is that icon design is hard...)00:35
MTecknology...00:35
MTecknologyweird00:35
MTecknologylighter grays?00:35
cyberixjml: the people in the group design the software and write the code00:41
cyberixjml: so for Launchpad this is an out-of-band relation00:41
cyberixjml: we created the group so people could find each other00:42
jmlcyberix: well, those people could conceivably own the trunk branch, or something?00:42
jmlcyberix: you could also just put the URL of the team in the project description.00:42
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seiflotfyAdded new clutter pre-prototype UI To start it up instead of running sh zeitgeist.sh do sh zeitgeist2.sh01:41
seiflotfyooops01:41
seiflotfysorry01:41
seiflotfyi have a problem01:41
seiflotfyseif@Schroeder:~/Projects/gnome-doc-centric-playground$ bzr push01:42
seiflotfyUsing saved location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnome-doc-centric-playground/gnome-doc-centric-playground/gnome-journal-prototype/01:42
seiflotfybzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Egnome-doc-centric-playground/gnome-doc-centric-playground/gnome-journal-prototype/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()01:42
seiflotfywhat to do01:42
seiflotfyi just pushed things up a couple of ddays ago01:42
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mwhudsonseiflotfy: bzr launchpad-login01:56
mwhudsonseiflotfy: also, you must be using a fairly old bzr to not get a more helpful message01:57
mwhudson:(01:58
jmlwhere is the love?01:59
spmjml: "make love"02:10
spm... sadly. modern make's no longer respond "not war"02:10
lifelessspm: you could put that in the default ruleset02:14
NCommandercprov, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22839233/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-hppa.kdebindings_4%3A4.2.0-0ubuntu2~ppa1_NEEDSBUILD.txt.gz - I broke LP :-)02:19
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wgrantmpt: What caused you to growl at my bug?08:43
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loic-mIf I upload a new version of a library to my ppa, how do I make sure other packages uploaded to my ppa build with this version instead of the one in ubuntu's repos?14:06
sorenloic-m: That happens automatically.14:06
soren...as long as the version of you library package is higher than the one in the Ubuntu archive.14:06
loic-msoren: thanks a lot14:07
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loic-mCan I import Jaunty source packages in my ppa for rebuilding directly in launchpad, or do I have to apt-get source then dput them?14:08
geserloic-m: uploading a new .diff.gz should be enough (IIRC), the PPA buildd will pull the .orig.tar.gz from the primary archive14:24
loic-mgeser: that still means I need to update the changelog and create a new version of the packages I want to test rebuild though, doesn't it?14:25
bigjoolsno, you can upload the same version14:26
geserPPA doesn't complain about the version being also in the primary archive?14:26
bigjoolsof course not, it's a separate archive14:26
geserdoes one need then a full source upload?14:27
bigjoolswell as you already said, you can leave out the .orig.tar.gz14:27
geserso only the version space is separa14:28
geserseparate?14:28
loic-mbigjools: tried with dput ppa foo.diff.gz and dput wants a source.changes14:29
sorenCan you guys see the IP's my account has been used from within the last week or so? I have a hunch that I'd like to get confirmed/rejected.14:29
bigjoolsyou can reference the .orig in the dsc and LP will find it based on the md514:29
bigjoolsloic-m: yes you need to make a changes file14:29
geserloic-m: fetch source, extract it, cd <pkg>, run dpkg-genchanges -S14:30
loic-mbigjools: it's becoming slightly OT, sorry, but to generate a changes file don't I need to update the changelog?14:30
loic-mgeser, bigjools: thanks14:31
bigjoolswhat he said. :)14:31
loic-mdpkg-genchanges -S doesn't ask me for my key password, and dput complains there's no valid signature.14:40
geserloic-m: run debsign <pkg>.changes afterwards14:42
geserdon't forget to redirect the output from dpkg-genchanges to a file14:43
loic-mgeser: thanks. The later was easy to find, but the former wasn't ;)14:43
loic-mit worked!14:47
savvasIs there a time limitation in PPAs? I mean is there a limit for how much time a package takes to compile?15:00
Ursinhacprov, ^15:01
cprovsavvas: no, there isn't such thing.15:02
cprovsavvas: why do you ask ?15:02
savvascprov: https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/ppa/+build/87555315:02
savvasit took a while to build boost1.35 to try out a fix, but it failed15:02
savvasthe only changes I introduced was adding 'Provides:' in debian/control for several binary packages15:03
cprovsavvas: let me check the buildlog, one sec15:03
savvascprov: ok, in the meantime I'm compiling it locally to see if there's a difference15:04
cprovsavvas: great.15:05
cprovsavvas: i don't know what happens to cause dpkg to die15:19
cprovsavvas: it could an abnormal memory consumption due to the compiling errors (just guessing)15:20
savvascprov: should I retry one of the failed ones in launchpad?15:22
cprovsavvas: yes, try it one more time, if the problem persist raise it on #motu15:23
savvascprov: ok, will do!15:24
cprovsavvas: thanks for bringing this problem up. Let see if it can be debugged and fixed accordingly soon.15:26
savvassure, no problem15:30
savvascprov: locally it was built successfully, I'm retrying i386 and amd64 builds on launchpad15:33
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MagicFabHi all16:46
MagicFabis it possible to change one's LP ID ?16:46
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andrea-bsMagicFab: you can change your own ID here: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit16:47
MagicFabandrea-bs, excellent, thanks!16:49
Tumiehow do i delete a team on launchpad ?17:31
andrea-bsTumie: you have to ask a question to the LP admins: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad17:32
Tumieok, done17:34
andrea-bsnow, just wait :)17:35
Tumie:)17:36
Tumiety :)17:36
loic-mIs it possible to rebuild some packages in my ppa even though they already built fine?17:36
loic-m(to test rebuilding with a new version of the lib they build depend on)17:37
bigjoolsloic-m: no, same rules as Ubuntu apply, you need to bump up the version and re-upload17:37
loic-mthanks. painpainpainpainpain17:38
bigjools:(17:38
loic-mCan't I just delete them, then reupload after a while?17:38
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bigjoolsno, it remembers what you already uploaded17:39
loic-mI don't want to bump the version, they're packages straight from ubuntu repos17:39
loic-mtoo bad17:39
bigjoolsjust make a ~ppa1 version17:39
bigjoolsum, +ppa1 in this case17:40
loic-mI'll try17:40
MagicFabafter changing one's LP ID, the CoC signature is not linked anymore17:41
* MagicFab check for existing bugs17:41
MagicFabis there any obvious way to fix this ?17:44
joeyMagicFab, really? Hmm I just changed mine.  Let me look!17:45
joeyso MagicFab, explain that a bit to me. Mine appear ok.17:46
joeythe only gotcha I had when changing my LP id is that I also had to change my bzr settings17:48
joeyin bazaar.conf, authentication.conf, and locations.conf17:48
MagicFabjoey, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/33167817:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 331678 in launchpad "Code of Conduct is not linked from "Ubuntero: Yes" in user Overview page after LP ID change" [Undecided,New]17:50
joeyMagicFab, odd, it works for me17:51
joeyMagicFab, it's linked to https://edge.launchpad.net/~tatica1/+codesofconduct17:51
joeyMagicFab, maybe I'm bitten by my admin privs though.17:52
MagicFabjoey,  I uploaded a screenshot17:57
ondrejHi, the help page for PPA: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Using packages from other distributions, says that I can upload packages for other distributions unmodified18:01
joeyMagicFab, ok, I get it now. :-)18:01
ondrejbut I keep getting: Rejected:18:01
ondrejCould not find suite 'unstable'18:01
ondrejwhen I upload a package for Debian sid.18:01
joeycprov, bigjools - still around? ^^18:01
bigjoolsI'm just finishing18:02
ondrejso how can I do it? Or should the help page be improved?18:02
bigjoolsondrej: you need to change to a valid Ubuntu series18:02
bigjoolsyeah, it could be better18:02
cprovondrej: what's in your dput.cf ?18:02
ondrejmy .dput.cf is:18:02
ondrej[ppa]18:03
ondrejfqdn = ppa.launchpad.net18:03
ondrejmethod = ftp18:03
ondrej#incoming = ~ondrej-certik/ppa/ubuntu18:03
ondrejincoming = ~ondrej-certik/ppa/ubuntu/unstable18:03
ondrejlogin = anonymous18:03
ondrejallow_unsigned_uploads = 018:03
cprovondrej: ERRRRR!18:03
ondrej(I tried both incoming lines and neither works)18:03
cprov:)18:03
bigjoolsheh18:03
cprovincoming = .../hardy  or intrepid or jaunty18:03
ondrejcprov, but I want to upload packages for Debian unstable18:03
ondrejthe help page says it should work18:03
maxbondrej: *from* unstable *for* jaunty (etc.)18:04
ondrejah18:04
cprovondrej: we don't support debian native building,  we support uploading pristine debian packages to ubuntu series18:04
ondrejah, I got it now18:04
ondrejlet me try it18:04
cprovondrej: that's what a flaky help text causes, confusion.18:05
cprovondrej: do you have any *specific* suggestion to make that clearer on the current text ?18:05
ondrejyes18:05
ondrejsay that the incoming line must be ppa/ubuntu/<some *ubuntu* distrib>18:05
cprovondrej: fire it :)18:05
ondrejbut you can upload packages from Debian and other deb distros unmodified, as long as you upload it to some ubuntu distro.18:06
ondrejcprov, is there any reason (besides manpower) that ubuntu doesn't support Debian sid?18:08
ondrejI created:18:08
ondrejhttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/lp-dev-utils/+spec/ppa-debian-unstable18:08
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cprovondrej: lp-dev-utils ? funny18:09
ondrejcprov, I didn't find PPA18:10
cprovondrej: anyway, yes, the main factor is manpower18:10
ondrejcprov, ok -- can I help with this somehow?18:10
cprovondrej: unfortunately it has to happen within the company18:10
ondrejcprov, I asked about this Steve Langasek and Christian Reis at the ubuntu developer summit in Prague18:11
cprovondrej: unrelated, but why have you created a spec in a random project instead of filing a bug on soyuz (they is already one for debian-ppas, IIRC)18:11
cprovondrej: you could have talked to me, I was there too :)18:12
ondrejcprov, and they said it would probably happen, that they only need to build the schroot, so I offered them help with this and Christian said to send him an email, so I did and he never replied18:12
ondrejcprov, ah great, I didn't know18:12
cprovondrej: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA (edited)18:13
ondrejcprov, as to the spec, feel free to delete it and provide there a link to the bug about this18:13
cprovondrej: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/18856418:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 188564 in soyuz "Build also packages for Debian in PPA's" [Undecided,New]18:13
ondrejcprov, I am a bit confused as to where to fill what in the launchpad. thanks for the link18:13
cprovondrej: there are other aspects of debian-ppas mentioned there, I'm looking forward to see what you have in mind.18:15
ondrejcprov, what do you mean by other aspects?18:15
ondrejI don't see any18:15
cprovondrej: err, not there yet, I will post a comment latter today, subscribe to it.18:16
ondrejcprov, thanks for updating the help page, now it's clearer18:16
ondrejcprov, --- will you post it to the bug?18:17
cprovondrej: yes18:17
ondrejcprov, registered and posted a support comment. :)18:17
cprovondrej: cool, thanks18:18
ondrejcprov, thanks for the help. I hope this happens eventually18:18
cprovondrej: it will18:19
ondrejcprov, btw here are my notes from UDS http://ondrejcertik.blogspot.com/2008/05/ubuntu-developer-summit-in-prague.html18:19
ondrejI must have missed you18:19
cprovondrej: aha, I see a lot of people eating :)18:19
ondrej:)18:21
ondrejyeah!18:21
ondrejyou probably recognize most of them18:21
cprovyup18:22
ondrejcprov, so I just verified sid->jaunty works without a modification. looking forward for sid->sid. need to go, see you later18:28
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joeybigjools, cprov - thanks.19:10
cprovjoey: you're welcome19:11
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joeyswapped out the unpostable list for the team with the mailing list19:13
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savvascprov: the retry failed again: https://launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/ppa/+build/875552/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.boost1.35_1.35.0-8ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz20:23
charlie-tcabac: I got another one, need to set the project for it if you want to see it20:35
baccharlie-tca: sure20:36
charlie-tcahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/33175120:36
ubottuUbuntu bug 331751 in xfce4-settings "xfce4-display-settings do not apply changes" [Medium,Triaged]20:36
charlie-tcaneeds to have the upstream bug set20:36
baccharlie-tca: ok, do it and if you get assigned the project i'll replicate your steps on staging20:37
charlie-tcaDo I need to list the steps here?20:37
baccharlie-tca:  not yet.  let's see if you get re-assigned first20:38
oliver_g_hi21:01
oliver_g_I want to make a fork of a bzr branch hosted at launchpad21:02
oliver_g_(https://code.launchpad.net/~delfick/+junk/projectMarker to be exact)21:02
oliver_g_I already have a launchpad account21:02
oliver_g_so what is the quickest way to make such a fork? For publishing some bugfixes?21:02
mwhudsonoliver_g_: bzr pull lp:///~delfick/+junk/projectMarker; hack hack hack; bzr push lp:///~<you>/project/branchname21:07
oliver_g_so out of curiosity, what's the +junk part in the original bzr url then?21:10
oliver_g_do I have to include it in my own url as well?21:10
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maxb+junk is launchpad's convention for indicating a branch not associated with a launchpad project21:37
maxblaunchpad requires that there be a project component in branch URLs21:38
maxbIt provides the option of +junk for ad-hoc branches for which you do not wish to register a project21:38
cprovsavvas: right, we need support from the fantatisc-motu guys21:47
mwhudsonoliver_g_: you need to put +junk or the name of a project in there21:47
oliver_g_yes, I noticed that makes it work :-)21:48
oliver_g_btw. does the original author of the project get a notification about my branch?21:49
gesercprov: if it's about the boost FTBFS, then it was sort of resolved in the meantime. It's because of the recent python changes in jaunty.21:54
cprovgeser: yes, it's about boost. Very nice, you guys rock !21:54
savvascprov, geser: thanks for the time you dedicated for this, I'm trying out a new patched (rookie-style :) ) build22:02
savvashttps://edge.launchpad.net/%7Emedigeek/+archive/ppa/+files/boost1.35_1.35.0-8ubuntu4_1.35.0-8ubuntu4~ppajaunty1.diff.gz22:03
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