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thewrathis anyone in here02:17
thewrathi have a bug that i would like to see if someone can reproduce02:17
thewrathin 9.04 release from today02:17
charlie-tcaWhat is the bug?02:20
thewrathdesktop not able to connect to wireless taht is wpa2 enterprise02:24
thewrathissue in 8.1002:24
thewrathas well02:24
thewrath8.10 was reported02:24
charlie-tcano wireless here02:24
thewrath?02:25
charlie-tcaHard to confirm a wireless bug without wireless on the system02:25
thewrathoh k02:25
thewrathi see wat ur saying02:25
thewrathdoes anyone have wireless?02:26
andresmujicahi thewrath, sadly i don't have wpa2 enterprise02:29
andresmujicai'm using wpa2 personal...02:29
andresmujicaone question for the team02:29
andresmujicawith the new 5-a-day how are the tags handled?02:29
andresmujicaand the LoCo Team tag?02:30
greg-gandresmujica: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Events02:34
greg-git will be done automatically based on that wiki page using a parser02:35
andresmujicaok, that's what i though... but the LoCo Team tag would be extracted from the launchpad account? or should i add it too...02:36
andresmujicaand also, the applet still is go to use or is already deprecated?02:36
greg-goh, right. umm, I don't know. That should be automatically extracted from the LP account, huh?02:36
greg-gthat last question is better answered by dholbach02:37
greg-gdholbach will be making a more thorough announcement later, this was basically the "preview" release today.02:38
greg-gwill all be finalized and ready to go before the GBJ though02:38
greg-g(from what he told me)02:38
andresmujicaok...02:39
andresmujicai wasn't online today.. the thing is that i'm giving an irc session for my tema (ubuntu-co) and i'm not pretty sure how it would work.. i'll be using the applet meanwhile and join the people to the 5-a-day team too...02:40
greg-gandresmujica: yeah, I say being in the team and using the applet won't hurt anything02:42
andresmujicayeap..  :)02:42
thewrathanyone have wpa2 enterprise02:49
* maxb finishes venting about notify-osd02:58
maxbI filed 5 bugs in 5 minutes02:58
maxbthat's not how 5-a-day is supposed to work :-/02:58
greg-gnow go triage 10 bugs to make up for it! ;)03:00
hggdhonly 10? ;-)03:06
andresmujicabug 33121903:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 331219 in ubuntu "Firefox Addons window pegs Xorg CPU usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33121903:31
andresmujica(just a demo=03:31
andresmujica)03:31
thewrathwho has wpa2 enterprise encyrption on wireless03:40
dholbachgood morning05:40
d-bthewrath: i might be able to set it up on my openwrt ... why ?06:55
macodholbach: so that 5-a-day-participants team...is that the auto-reporting people were asking about before?07:01
dholbachyes07:02
dholbachthe stats are not there yet, but I'm working on it and it'll be there for GBJ07:03
macook07:06
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pedro_Hey Bugsquad! today is hug day! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090219 come on there's still a few bugs to be squashed12:26
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andresmujicaping dholbach14:15
dholbachandresmujica: pong14:15
andresmujicahi Daniel what's up!14:16
andresmujicai've got a doubt about 5-aday14:16
dholbachwhat is it?14:16
andresmujicathe appplet would still work?14:16
dholbachno14:17
dholbachyou don't need it anymore14:17
andresmujicaok, so i must tell everyone at the LoCo to Join the new team...14:17
dholbachandresmujica: yes - nothing manual anymore, all automatic14:18
dholbachjoin the team once14:18
dholbachand "register for bug jams" once14:18
dholbachwhich is easier than the old thing was14:18
andresmujicaregister for bug jams is the wiki page Bugs/Events?14:18
dholbachyep14:18
dholbachjust put your Launchpad ID there and all's good :)14:18
andresmujicaand the tags how should be handled?14:19
andresmujicahmm i'll rephrase, so there'd be no more tags outside the ones at the wiki page?14:19
dholbachas far as I know, people just used it for events anyway14:19
andresmujicaok no prob.14:21
dholbachok super14:21
dholbachthanks for talking to your team mates about it14:21
andresmujicayeap,  no prob.. but they were so excited with the  applet... :)  the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 was really fun for them...14:22
dholbacha lot of people told me "this is too complicated, people don't understand how to set it up" or "this is too much work for me"14:22
dholbachlet's see how it works out14:22
andresmujicayeap, that's right!14:24
andresmujicadholbach, another thing.. this means that the bzr branch would be no longer updated, right?14:30
dholbachyes, no bzr branches - not necessary14:30
andresmujicathe date at the wiki - the parsed section-  would be take into account for the stats?14:32
dholbachyes14:32
andresmujica(sorry for so many questions...   i'm willing to put those on the wiki)14:32
dholbachno worries14:33
andresmujicahmm ok, our team would be participating (i hope) during the 3 days and we would have a get together the 21st by the afternoon, should i put the 3 days??14:34
MagicFabdholbach, I think you removed too much from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day/Reporting in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day14:35
dholbachMagicFab: what's missing?14:35
MagicFabAll command line options gone, which I find useful.14:35
dholbachMagicFab: like?14:36
MagicFab5-a-day --update --html14:36
MagicFabAnd I prefer using the applet :)14:36
dholbachyes, I think about keeping it14:36
dholbach:-((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((814:36
MagicFabwell, actually, how are team submissions handled by the new team membership ?14:36
dholbachkeeping the .signature thing14:36
dholbachI'll introduce them a few days later14:37
dholbachbut nothing will be lost, no worries14:37
MagicFabdon't get me wrong, I think the team memberhsip stuff is excellent!14:37
dholbachthere's lots of people who didn't "get" the applet and command line thing14:37
MagicFabok, team submissions is my only reason to keep that applet around.14:37
dholbachand requested stuff to be automatic14:37
MagicFabyes, I imagine for many it's impossible to follow that14:37
dholbachMagicFab: we will get all data from Launchpad - it will take me just a bit longer to set up the team statistics, but the data will be still around14:38
MagicFabkomputes (David Bensimon) explained to me the UDS conversations around this14:38
dholbachso there's (apart from the nice .signature) no need to keep the applet and the other stuff14:38
dholbachand I'll make sure we'll still have that14:38
MagicFabwhen I mean team submissions I mean "I am submitting 5-a-day stuf for XXX team to rock"14:38
dholbachI know14:38
MagicFabk :D14:39
dholbachwe'll have team stats next week - if you work on 10 bugs today, your team will have 10 bugs next week14:39
dholbachor maybe the week after it14:39
dholbachnothing will be lost if you don't use the "client" today14:39
ormandjif somebody gets to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/284211 , you'll be the hero of a thousand souls :p thanks for doing this bug day, i can't wait to see the outcome :) you guys rock!14:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 284211 in network-manager-applet "[intrepid] network-manager-gnome 0.7 missing PEAP-GTC option" [High,Confirmed]14:41
BUGabundoormandj: ping asac on that !14:42
ormandjDone! :)14:46
BUGabundoyeah, I already did the job for you... eheh14:47
andresmujicadholbach, would be some kind of problem if the people used to the 5-a-day applet or command line use it for the GBJ ?14:48
ormandjvery nice :) :) my name is david, and whatever your name is - thank you very much!14:48
dholbachandresmujica: there's no reason to do that because it will be all automatic14:49
dholbachandresmujica: if they prefer to do that - I'm not going to stop them14:49
andresmujicadholbach: ok thks!!  great! i'll explain them !!14:51
bddebianBoo14:51
BUGabundofoo14:52
BUGabundobahh you came to early today14:52
BUGabundoand never showed up, yesterday14:52
BUGabundohow can we scare bugs like that?14:52
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BUGabundobddebian: eheh14:52
bddebianSorry, I'm slacking.. :)14:53
BUGabundobugs don't give us slack...14:53
asacormandj: i think its no going to happen for 0.7.1, but we are aware of that issue15:00
asaci will see what i can do15:00
seb128asac: btw they rolled nm 0.7.0.97 tarballs but you probably know that15:01
ormandjasac: i'd be willing to put 100$ of my personal funds on it, if it would help motivate people. it's blocking 500 or so people that i deal with on a day-to-day basis from using wireless, heh15:01
BUGabundoreally?15:03
BUGabundofrom reading it, it didn't seem such a big think15:03
* BUGabundo reads bug report again15:03
asacseb128: yes. we are just 3 or 4 days before that (its 0.7.1~rc1)15:03
asacbut i will roll that15:03
ormandjinner phase 2 GTC auth does not work, it was removed in nm 0.7.x, but was in nm 0.6.x (regression)15:03
seb128ok15:03
asactarget for final is two or three weeks15:03
asacormandj: are all those ubuntu users?15:04
ormandjasac: no, it's a mix of linux users. i don't have any hard numbers on that, but i suspect a fair number do use ubuntu15:04
ormandjthe fix would affect upstream nm, so it would be beneficial to all15:05
asacyeah15:10
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sasarajoin #ubuntu16:13
Piciyou first.16:13
BUGabundoLOL16:13
sasaraoops16:13
Pici:)16:13
BUGabundosasara: forgot '/'16:13
BUGabundoheeheh16:14
sasarathx :P16:14
hacktick:)16:16
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danis this the right place for discussing NM v0.6 bugs too?17:00
BUGabundodan its just about asac on the NM team17:01
BUGabundoso just shoot...17:01
danBUGabundo, I'm running hardy and found a bug in NM v0.617:01
danI have a proposed fix, but not sure where to submit it17:02
Pici.2217:02
danI've posted on the NM list, but didn't get any kind of accept or reject for it17:02
danmost of the NM list discussion revolves around v0.7, so I can see why people may not have been too interested17:03
danis there a better place to submit/discuss my fix?17:03
BUGabundodan launchpad would be great17:03
BUGabundoand then let asac know about it17:03
asacdan: plea check that bugs are resolved in ~network-manager PPA17:03
asacthats NM 0.7 pre snapshot17:04
BUGabundodan is it ubuntu specific ? or upstream?17:04
asace.g. the version we shipped in intrepid backported to hardy17:04
danasac, it's resolved in v0.7, yes17:04
asacgood17:04
danis the plan to release 0.7 for hardy as well?17:04
asacdan: whats you fix17:04
asacdan: not officially17:04
asacwhat is that bug?17:04
danasac, lowered the scan timeout down from 10sec17:04
danjust a sec, will get some refs...17:04
asacwe only do SRUs to hardy for importance hihg bug17:04
asacdan: what are you trying to fix? i dont think we want to scan every 10 seconds17:06
danhttp://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2009-February/msg00074.html17:06
danasac, that's the link to my patch in the archive, posted feb 817:06
danthe fix is to reduce the scan timeout when we are scanning, not to scan every 10 sec17:06
danat the 10 second mark, wireless extensions expires scan results17:07
danso in my case, my desired connection came in right away and was expired before NM got a chance to see it17:07
danwhich left me disconnected17:07
danasac, I had an early post (referenced in the mail I linked to) which gave a very detailed explanation17:07
asachmm17:08
asacdidnt see that mail even though i am subscribed17:08
danI suppose I didn't go through the official bug-logging process, but I'm new to ubuntu and open source bug fixing in general, sorry17:08
asacdan: if you have patches directly going to upstream mailing list is right17:08
danok, but that patch applies against the ubuntu-hardy derivative, so not sure what the next step is17:09
asacdan: i don think this part is different in hardy than in upstream 0.6 branch17:10
asacdan: first thought is that this is a driver bug17:10
danasac, so can this be accepted and applied to both?17:10
asace.g. expiring so soon17:10
danasac, if you look at the first message, I found the code in the wireless extension source17:10
asacdan: i will wait for dan to comment on that mail. most likely he doesnt want this kind of tweakage in upstream tree17:10
danwell, at least I think so17:10
asacwhats the first message?17:11
danasac, dan only commented on my first message, suggesting that lowering the timeout like this would be fairly simple and safe17:11
asacah its linked17:11
danasac, the first message is quite verbose :)17:11
asacdan: have you addressed the suggestions from dan here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2009-January/msg00247.html17:12
asac?17:12
asacwell i dont think you have, but i wonder if you have considered that17:12
asacseems its related to non supplicant scans. hmm17:13
danasac, which suggestion?17:13
asacwhat card are you using? ipw2200?17:13
asacThe issue here is that you do want *some* batching of scan results,17:13
asacbecause there are drivers that emit scan events during scan processing,17:13
asacbecause some older drivers will clear their scan list when a client asks17:13
asacfor access points.  Thus, you don't want to ask too often or you might17:13
asacnot get a complete set of APs.17:13
asacHowever, you could try to modify wireless_event_handler() to, instead of17:13
asaconly scheduling the scan result timeout when there isn't one already17:13
asacscheduled, cancel the outstanding scan results timeout *if* it will17:13
asactrigger later than now + 5 seconds.17:13
asacfirst paragraph says that its not best approach17:14
asacsecond gives suggestion how to fix17:14
asacthat concern17:14
danasac, my fix doesn't prevent batching17:14
danin fact, by not mucking with the handler at all, we only collect the results at the timeout interval17:15
danthat timeout is 10 seconds at the moment, I suggest dropping it to 817:15
asacwhy not 9 ;)?17:15
asaclike what is in the thread ;)17:16
dan9 should be ok too, but I didn't want to get too close to the margin17:16
asac1 second is long in terms of computing17:16
danI asked if there was any technical reason why it was even as high as 10, no answer17:16
asacanyway. i think the patch should be ok and should also go upstream17:16
danI know :)17:16
danall I can say is that it definitely fixed my problem17:16
danI have an iwl496517:16
asaci think the reason is that active scanning consumes power for some devices17:17
asacstrange.17:17
danwhen I first noticed the problem, my inclination was to force a manual rescan17:17
asaciwl4965 always worked for me on hardy17:17
danturns out that's not the problem17:17
danit may be a particular interaction between my card and the router17:17
asacso where is the code that has the 10 second limit?17:17
asacin wireless extensions?17:17
danI'm no expert, but this fixed my case, and can hopefully help others17:17
danyes, let me check my message for the reference...17:18
asacyeah. i have to reread that thread, but i think 9 should be ok17:18
asacif wireless really expires after 10 seconds ;)17:18
danyup, I was just wanting a little more margin, and it makes the connection process a little shorter too17:19
danCurious about how iw_set_ext() and iw_get_ext() worked, I dug a17:19
danlittle and found this interesting bit in net/mac80211/ieee80211_sta.c17:19
danfunction ieee80211_sta_scan_result():17:19
danif (time_after(jiffies, bss->last_update + IEEE80211_SCAN_RESULT_EXPIRE))17:19
dan    return current_ev;17:19
danNote that IEEE80211_SCAN_RESULT_EXPIRE is defined to be (10 * HZ).17:19
danasac, that's WE right?17:20
asacthat looks more like mac8021117:20
asacwhich is used by iwl496517:20
danoh, is it specific?17:21
asacmac80211 is shared by almost all modern drivers17:21
asacexcept the really old ones like iwl2200 or hostap17:21
danyeah, thought that was the WE part of it shared by many drivers17:21
danI guess WE and mac80211 are different17:22
danbut this affects many cards all the same, yes?17:22
danWE or not17:22
asacyes17:24
danasac, so this is still a valid fix?17:24
asacWE is a dying thing though. but that doesnt matter here17:24
asaci think so17:24
danasac, I'd just like to see Hardy get fixed17:24
danupgrading hardy's NM to 0.7 is fine too17:24
danbut this is certainly less invasive for existing hardy users17:25
danchange one number in two lines to slightly reduce a timeout17:25
asacdan: i am currently on a train. can you ping me tomorrow about this so i can properly look in the code and then commit it?17:25
danasac, sure thing, thanks17:25
asaci think its fine17:25
asaci would like to accumulate more fixes for a hardy SRU though17:25
asaci think i already committed one other low importance ridealong to the hardy branch17:26
danasac, ok, will email you tomorrow (or will you be here again?)17:26
asacbut well ... i will see if i can find something else in bug tracker17:26
asacdan: i am alwys here ... maybe a bit earlier because at this time i might be out for weekend action17:26
asacits 1830 here17:26
danasac, ah17:27
asacdan: but you can just ping me and i will get reminded when i come back17:27
asacdan: at best put the line with the bug number /url in the ping17:27
danasac, sounds good, thanks17:27
bdmurrayasac: have you looked at the top 3 bugs with patches in the hug day list?17:52
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asacbdmurray: can you paste the url please? ;)18:05
bdmurrayasac they are bug 330608 bug 330571 and bug 33052618:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330608 in network-manager-applet "GSM connection message too long in nm-applet" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33060818:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330571 in network-manager-applet "Wired connected message in nm-applet too long" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33057118:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 330526 in network-manager-applet "Wireless-connected message in nm-applet is unnecessarily long" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33052618:06
asacbdmurray: those are from dxteam right=18:06
asac?18:06
asaci have them on my radar then18:06
asacbdmurray: maybe ensure that those bugs have dxteam tag18:06
asacbut i think they already have18:06
bdmurrayoh, they do.  I don't notice that18:07
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macoasac: any idea when NM will start supporting Ad-Hoc connections? it currently shows that they exist then fails to connect to them18:16
sasarahelp18:19
sasarai'm very much a newbie, i've been looking around today's hugday page, and i can't confirm any of the bugs :(18:22
sasarais there maybe an easier place to start than nm-applet?18:24
pedro_sasara: we have collected a list of easy tasks for new triagers at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks18:26
pedro_sasara: if you have questions regarding any of those just ask here in the channel18:27
macobdmurray: have you noticed any problems when LP Greasemonkey Scripts are enabled? i can't report bugs if they're enabled18:27
sasarathx :)18:27
bdmurraymaco: Wow, that's a neat benefit!  Do you know which script in particular?18:28
macobdmurray: not sure18:35
macobdmurray: i can tell you which ones i have installed18:35
bdmurraymaco: its possible to enable and disable them individually w/o having to restart firefox.  just enable / disable one and reload the web page to help narrow it down.18:36
macoah, ive been disabling the whole lot18:37
asacmaco: are you on intrepid?18:41
macobdmurray: nevermind. i think it was one of the ones i wrote. which i dont quite understand because it doesn't touch that part of the page....18:42
macoasac: no, jaunty18:42
asacmaco: also it depends on the driver ... what kind of adhoc are you triying to setup?18:42
asacopen net? or wpa?18:42
macoasac: trying to connect to dtchen's G1, i always have to /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop, iwconfg wlan0 mode Ad-Hoc, iwconfig wlan0 essid...etc18:42
macoopen18:42
asacmaco: what ship does a G1 have?18:43
asacbroadcom?18:43
asacath?18:43
asacchip ;)18:43
macoQualcomm's MSM7201A18:44
macoaccording to http://www.wirelessdesignasia.com/article-9338-qualcommdualcorechipsetpowerstmobileg1-Asia.html18:44
asacwhat driver is that?18:44
asacthats probably just a label for something different18:44
macoit says that's the chipset including G3 wireless18:46
asacmaco: whats the driver18:46
macoi dont know. *my* driver is iwlagn18:46
macobut i dont knwo what the phone runs18:46
asacah18:47
asacso the adhoc is not created on ubuntu18:47
asacthats strange then18:47
macono no, i'm trying to connect *to* an ad-hoc network18:47
asacmight be that it creates a special network type that is problemantic18:47
asacso do you see that net in NM?18:48
asaccant you connect to it?18:48
macoit's visible in NM, but it fails to connect18:48
asaci mean push the button ;)18:48
macowireless tools handles it fine18:48
asacmaco: paste the syslog then18:48
asacalso check what iwconfig says while its trying to connect18:50
asacand if its correct18:50
macowhat do you mean waht iwconfig says while trying to connect?  i didn't see anythign different from what it does when i connect to any other network with iwconfig18:51
asacout for a while18:51
asacyes thats what i mean18:51
asacwhen NM connects what iwconfig says18:51
asacok off18:51
asacbbl18:51
macooh18:51
asac1 -2 h18:51
macook18:51
macoasac: when you get back, here's syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/120237/18:53
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chrisccoulson1hggdh - i'm seeing a few libical crashes being reported at the moment. it seems that libical aborts on many different errors, and i don't know if those bugs are a problem with libical or the calling applications. would you mind taking a look at bug 331428, for example?22:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 331428 in libical "Jaunty - Evolution crash when I right click on a calendar entry." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33142822:13
chrisccoulson1there's 2 separate backtraces in the report, both with the same end result but the initial errors that cause the abort are different.22:14
mrooneyhahahahah bug 33176722:27
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/331767/+text)22:27
mrooneyoh, that's neat22:27
mrooneyNew bug #331767 in ubuntu: "Please kill the Pedro Villavicencio bot" [Undecided, New] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/33176722:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 331767 in ubuntu "Please kill the Pedro Villavicencio bot" [Undecided,New]22:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 331767 in ubuntu "Please kill the Pedro Villavicencio bot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33176722:28
mrooneywhat the22:28
savvasmrooney: it read two bugs, using the bug <number> and the link formats :)22:33
mrooneyyeah, I figured22:34
mrooneyI was more confused as to why it didn't work the first time22:34
mrooneyI am not sure if that report is sarcastic or actually thinks pedro is a bot22:34
chrisccoulson1i think it is an attempt at being sarcastic22:35
hggdhchrisccoulson1, will do22:35
chrisccoulson1thanks hggdh22:35
ccookechrisccoulson1: ... it looks completely serious to me. I like the comments about not reading the bug :-)22:42
seb128doesn't seem to be a joke bug22:45
hggdhit is not22:54
hggdhchrisccoulson1, I think the libical issue whould be dealt by Evolution upstream22:55
seb128agreed22:56
chrisccoulson1there's a build-time switch for libical to stop it aborting on error22:56
chrisccoulson1perhaps we could try that?22:56
seb128 /j #evolution on irc.gnome.org during work hour and ping mchra or open a bug on bugzilla.gnome.org22:56
seb128we can turn the switch before jaunty maybe but I prefer having errors raised now than ignored22:57
seb128otherwise bugs are not reported and worked22:57
chrisccoulson1yeah, i agree. i'll report these upstream tomorrow then22:58
seb128thanks22:58
seb128btw ted didn't reply to your fusa changes yet I think, I pinged him about those and he said he would look at that soon22:59
chrisccoulson1thanks, he did comment on another FUSA bug report earlier, and mentioned that you had pinged him22:59
greg-gugh (re: pedro bug)23:05

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