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| * lool waves | 12:00 | |
| davidm | #startmeeting | 12:01 |
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| MootBot | Meeting started at 06:01. The chair is davidm. | 12:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 12:01 |
| NCommander | morning | 12:01 |
| davidm | persia, thanks for running meeting last week. | 12:02 |
| davidm | OK, from the top, action items from last week. | 12:02 |
| davidm | [topic] persia to file bugs to fix mobile-setup-wizard issues | 12:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: persia to file bugs to fix mobile-setup-wizard issues | 12:02 |
| lool | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090219 | 12:03 |
| davidm | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090219 | 12:04 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090219 | 12:04 |
| lool | persia: around? | 12:04 |
| lool | ogra: woot | 12:05 |
| ogra | meep | 12:05 |
| lool | davidm: Let's skip persia's items for now, and we'll get back to them at the end if he shows up | 12:05 |
| davidm | moving on | 12:05 |
| davidm | [topic] NCommander to take over driving ship-seed-for-mobile-images to close it (co) | 12:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to take over driving ship-seed-for-mobile-images to close it (co) | 12:05 |
| NCommander | Done. | 12:06 |
| NCommander | Implemented during berlin. | 12:06 |
| davidm | OK | 12:06 |
| NCommander | Spec was closed too, fully tested under Steve's guidance | 12:06 |
| lool | is the bp status up-to-date? | 12:06 |
| NCommander | lool, should be. | 12:06 |
| davidm | [topic] NCommander to reset arm-softboot-loader to "Drafting", and work towards a solution in #ubuntu-arm over the next week. | 12:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to reset arm-softboot-loader to "Drafting", and work towards a solution in #ubuntu-arm over the next week. | 12:07 |
| NCommander | Its on drafting, but nothing came out of u-arm (I didn't really get time to bring the subject up in depth) | 12:08 |
| lool | Carry over? | 12:08 |
| davidm | Lets look at this off line carry over for now. | 12:08 |
| davidm | [topic] davidm to update roadmap to reflect specs targeted for jaunty | 12:09 |
| MootBot | New Topic: davidm to update roadmap to reflect specs targeted for jaunty | 12:09 |
| davidm | done | 12:09 |
| davidm | persia, you about? | 12:09 |
| lool | davidm: Was there a quick boot spec? | 12:09 |
| davidm | Foundations ended up with it. | 12:09 |
| lool | ok | 12:10 |
| davidm | [topic] ogra to add nslu2 enablement to the Roadmap | 12:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ogra to add nslu2 enablement to the Roadmap | 12:10 |
| ogra | just done | 12:10 |
| ogra | :) | 12:10 |
| davidm | [topic] lool to follow up with NCommander to further extend the r | 12:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: lool to follow up with NCommander to further extend the r | 12:10 |
| NCommander | the r? | 12:10 |
| davidm | I'n not sure what that was, incomplete sentence from last week | 12:11 |
| ogra | (moved "NSLU2 enablement" to Other though) | 12:11 |
| * NCommander has no idea if we extended it ... | 12:11 | |
| ogra | NCommander, just do it :P dont always ask questions :P | 12:11 |
| lool | "the roadmap" | 12:11 |
| NCommander | Ah | 12:11 |
| ogra | ah :) | 12:11 |
| lool | I added some bugs to the RM, didn't particularly discuss with NCommander | 12:12 |
| davidm | OK | 12:12 |
| lool | Should be ok | 12:12 |
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| davidm | [topic] NCommander to test fix for 280699 | 12:12 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to test fix for 280699 | 12:12 |
| davidm | NCommander, ?? | 12:13 |
| NCommander | I didn't see I was assigned to it, but the bug is closed in LP | 12:13 |
| NCommander | I think that number is wrong. | 12:13 |
| lool | The bug id is 280669 not 699 | 12:13 |
| NCommander | Ooh | 12:13 |
| ogra | bug 280669 | 12:13 |
| lool | " Doesn't detect second part of SSD drive on jax10 " | 12:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 280669 in linux "Doesn't detect second part of SSD drive on jax10" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/280669 | 12:13 |
| ogra | ah | 12:14 |
| lool | davidm: You can fail me on the next action :-P | 12:14 |
| NCommander | i386 latest kernel had success. Haven't checked with lpia yet. | 12:14 |
| NCommander | I'll post results to the bug. | 12:14 |
| davidm | [topic] NCommander to finish drafting arm-softboot-loader | 12:15 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to finish drafting arm-softboot-loader | 12:15 |
| davidm | lool, I did and moved on ;-) | 12:15 |
| NCommander | not a lot of progress, other things were on my plate | 12:16 |
| davidm | OK, I'll co | 12:16 |
| lool | Carry over | 12:16 |
| davidm | Moving on to roadmap | 12:16 |
| davidm | [topic] roadmap review | 12:17 |
| MootBot | New Topic: roadmap review | 12:17 |
| lool | ogra: offline-installer? | 12:17 |
| davidm | ogra, offline installer | 12:17 |
| ogra | hmm, well, there is script for now, i didnt manage to add something on top of vm-builder as i would like to yet | 12:18 |
| ogra | i'll put the script into bzr and roll a ppa package for it | 12:18 |
| davidm | OK | 12:18 |
| ogra | seems many people use it though | 12:18 |
| lool | ogra: Anything else to do in the spec? | 12:18 |
| ogra | lool, a GUI, but given that we are post FF i'll develop that out of distro in PPA as well and make it adaptable for later vm-builder backend usage | 12:19 |
| davidm | ogra, ?? | 12:19 |
| davidm | OK, thanks | 12:19 |
| lool | ogra: You should update implemenetaion status | 12:19 |
| lool | Either defer for jaunty or consider it beta available | 12:20 |
| davidm | unr-handling-jaunty Stevenk | 12:20 |
| ogra | oki | 12:20 |
| lool | BTW there's a bp title which is "Offline Installer" and is completely unrelated | 12:20 |
| davidm | Stevenk is making good progress | 12:20 |
| lool | I think we should have a look at the patch merging progress as well | 12:21 |
| lool | (Probably next week when stevenk is around) | 12:21 |
| davidm | and I am upgrading 7 bugs that are currently filed and milestoneing them | 12:21 |
| davidm | general-resolution-for-touchscreen ogra?? | 12:21 |
| ogra | evtouch seems our only bet here, there are still bugs with it | 12:22 |
| ogra | while upstream seems to have done some work on evdev all this is hardwired to the usbtouchscreen kernel driver | 12:23 |
| ogra | which only supports three devices | 12:23 |
| ogra | i'm just filing the necessary bugs for evtouch to track status | 12:23 |
| lool | ogra: Could you update implementation progress? | 12:23 |
| ogra | yep | 12:23 |
| davidm | arm-softboot-loader NCommander | 12:24 |
| NCommander | Previously discussed, in the progress of redrafting. | 12:24 |
| davidm | Actually we covered it's status already | 12:24 |
| davidm | selection-of-arm-images ogra | 12:24 |
| ogra | well, no kernels yet, as soon as we have them we'll have a tool :) | 12:24 |
| davidm | lpia-versus-i386 lool | 12:25 |
| davidm | this is defeered until next cycle is it not? | 12:25 |
| lool | No update, it's in good shape and only needs some infrastructure before jaunty + 1 | 12:25 |
| lool | (Which is for infinity to setup) | 12:25 |
| lool | Will report if there's progress on this front | 12:25 |
| lool | (spec status is up-to-date) | 12:26 |
| davidm | OK that is the roadmap | 12:26 |
| davidm | on to bugs I guess | 12:26 |
| lool | Yup | 12:26 |
| davidm | bug #299847 | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 299847 in libipc-sharelite-perl "armel build failure (without ignoring testsuite results)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/299847 | 12:26 |
| lool | ogra, NCommander: you both worked on it | 12:26 |
| NCommander | I managed to work out its an alignment issue (the results change when you play with the padding) | 12:27 |
| ogra | well, its clearly identified, but there is no solution yet | 12:27 |
| lool | What's needed to move this forward? | 12:27 |
| NCommander | Normally GCC pads correctly onto the boundary, but this library does some weird things with structs | 12:27 |
| ogra | and it actually only showing on the buildds | 12:27 |
| NCommander | ogra, I was going to test it on the other piece of ARM hardware I got yesterday to see if it happens there | 12:28 |
| NCommander | It might also be worth a test on the slug, to see if it only happens on ARMv5 | 12:28 |
| davidm | OK NCommander please test on your hardware | 12:28 |
| ogra | i will do that as soon as bug 331510 is solved | 12:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331510 in linux "ixp4xx kernel to big to use with debian-installer on NSLU2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331510 | 12:28 |
| lool | The last comment says "it seems to be an alignment issue"; can we get a smaller test case of the alignment issue? | 12:29 |
| NCommander | lool, huh? | 12:29 |
| lool | NCommander: Can we get a smaller C test case reproducing the issue? | 12:29 |
| NCommander | Oh. Well, I can see the structs causing the breakage, I just need to figure out how to write some code that acts a test case | 12:30 |
| NCommander | The problem is this libraries structs are extremely odd (they're passing arries to unsigned shorts in functions) | 12:30 |
| lool | Well if it's sure it's an aligment issue, why do we need to test on other hardware? | 12:30 |
| NCommander | lool, mostly because I have no idea why we're having an issue. The kernel has a mechanism to correct alignment automatically. | 12:31 |
| * NCommander misspoke | 12:31 | |
| NCommander | I'm fairly sure its the alignment. Its the only thing that seems to fit. | 12:31 |
| NCommander | Which, when enabled, still didn't fix the issue on the buildds, but changing the padding changes the results of the failures, and even causes different tests to fail. | 12:32 |
| ogra | hey, someone already added my bug to the roadmap ... | 12:32 |
| * ogra reverts his edit | 12:32 | |
| * davidm is fast | 12:32 | |
| lool | Ok, so NCommander are you taking the lead on this bug? | 12:32 |
| ogra | :) | 12:33 |
| NCommander | Yeah | 12:33 |
| lool | NCommander: Could you set yourself as assignee? | 12:33 |
| davidm | Ok | 12:33 |
| davidm | bug #322217: ixp4xx d-i firmware doesn't boot need to upload a changed APEX and rebuild d-i | 12:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 322217 in linux "ixp4xx image does not boot" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322217 | 12:33 |
| NCommander | I'm going to kick upstream an email, maybe then can enlightment on the insanity of this library. | 12:33 |
| ogra | davidm, fixed | 12:34 |
| ogra | but bug 331510 newly introduced | 12:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331510 in linux "ixp4xx kernel to big to use with debian-installer on NSLU2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331510 | 12:34 |
| davidm | ogra, are you taking the lead on this? | 12:34 |
| lool | ogra: What's the fix committed task in jaunty? | 12:34 |
| lool | ogra: on #322217; there's a task on linux; it's fix committed, what is it? | 12:35 |
| ogra | davidm, indeed | 12:35 |
| lool | " | 12:35 |
| lool | " | 12:35 |
| lool | adding linux task, teh endianess of the kernel image is wrong and needs to be flipped | 12:35 |
| lool | I guess it's done? | 12:35 |
| ogra | lool, thats done, right | 12:35 |
| ogra | firmware is done as well | 12:35 |
| lool | ogra: Could you close the linux task? | 12:35 |
| * ogra thought he closed all tasks already | 12:35 | |
| lool | It's only fix committed | 12:35 |
| lool | ogra: bug 331510 isn't milestoned nor tracked for jaunty | 12:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331510 in linux "ixp4xx kernel to big to use with debian-installer on NSLU2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331510 | 12:36 |
| ogra | lool, i just filed it at the beginning of the meeting :) | 12:36 |
| lool | ogra: Could you set milesone + track in jaunty + assign yourself ot it? | 12:36 |
| ogra | i'll do the paperwork afterwards | 12:36 |
| davidm | Ok | 12:36 |
| davidm | moving on | 12:36 |
| davidm | bug #319729: missing pselect() and ppoll() syscalls on ARM need to forward upstream to linux-arm-kernel | 12:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 319729 in linux "ARM architecture lacks support for pselect() and ppoll()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319729 | 12:36 |
| lool | amitk isn't around | 12:37 |
| lool | I think it was determined in the release meeting that this was fairly important | 12:37 |
| lool | There was discussion between pgraner and scott on they topic | 12:37 |
| lool | *the | 12:37 |
| davidm | OK OK will follow up with amitk off-line | 12:37 |
| lool | Ok | 12:38 |
| davidm | OK that was the end of the list any opens? | 12:38 |
| lool | can't think of any | 12:39 |
| lool | usual reminders about spec status and activity reports I guess :-) | 12:39 |
| davidm | OK then we can actually end the meeting early | 12:39 |
| NCommander | I do have a quick annoucement | 12:39 |
| lool | With persia and stevenk missing, we didn't cover much | 12:39 |
| davidm | Need to see what happened to persia | 12:40 |
| NCommander | As of last night, there are no more ARM specific failures in main. (there are a few general failures, and a few packages on x86 that got built on ARM by accident) | 12:40 |
| davidm | StevenK is on holiday today to tomrrow | 12:40 |
| lool | wow congrats | 12:40 |
| NCommander | (I nailed down KDE's last remaining main package | 12:40 |
| davidm | CGreat | 12:40 |
| NCommander | universe is slightly less happy, but at least main is on par with the Intel ports ;-) | 12:40 |
| lool | NCommander: on to universe and beyond! | 12:40 |
| NCommander | lool, on my todo already ;-) | 12:41 |
| lool | SCNR | 12:41 |
| NCommander | SCNR? | 12:41 |
| davidm | lool, what do we do about x86 packages that can't get built on ARM? | 12:41 |
| lool | davidm: If they don't make sense on arm, they should be listed in P-a-s | 12:41 |
| lool | It's just cosmetic I think | 12:42 |
| NCommander | We also have a few LP farts | 12:42 |
| NCommander | When the port was bootstrapped, LP ignored P-a-s at first on ARM | 12:42 |
| * NCommander looks at libx86 on ARM ... | 12:42 | |
| davidm | I think we inherit P-a-s from Debian? | 12:42 |
| lool | davidm: In all cases, no need to worry about it | 12:42 |
| lool | davidm: Yes | 12:42 |
| lool | davidm: Albeit I don't know whether it's still working properly as Pas moved to git in Debian and that needed some adjustments on our side | 12:43 |
| lool | Also the team maintaining Pas was made of 4 people actually connected to canonical IIRC, and the new team isn't connected at all I think | 12:43 |
| davidm | Ok thanks | 12:43 |
| lool | Actually 3/4 were related to canonical | 12:43 |
| lool | So I don't know whether that calls for a different handling of Pas or not | 12:43 |
| davidm | do we need to take this up with someone? | 12:44 |
| davidm | Ok lets take it off line and close the meeting | 12:44 |
| lool | davidm: We could do it as a low priority task I guess; reviewing whether more packages need to go in there and sending that to Debian | 12:44 |
| davidm | close meeting going once | 12:45 |
| davidm | lool, OK that makes sense | 12:45 |
| davidm | close meeting going twice | 12:45 |
| davidm | #endmeeting | 12:46 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 06:46. | 12:46 |
| lool | davidm: thanks for chairing | 12:46 |
| ogra | thanks | 12:46 |
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