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ivoks/usr/local/share?00:00
ivoksyou have custom perl?00:00
krunk-|worknpe00:00
krunk-|worknope00:00
ivoksls -dl /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/Errno.pm00:01
ivoksif it's in /usr/local/, it's custom, not from ubuntu00:01
krunk-|workhm00:01
krunk-|workmaybe from backuppc, is there a way to check what package a file belongs to?00:01
ivoksno package stores anything in /usr/local00:01
ivoksthat's for hand made, compiled binaries00:02
ivoksdpkg -S /path/to/the/file00:02
ivoksok, the hell has frozen00:03
krunk-|workhm, so it says not found00:04
krunk-|workso I guess I could safely move the files in tehre, they're not in my path00:04
krunk-|workok, the dist-upgrade is definitely installing files into /usr/local00:06
ivoksdist-upgrade installs packages00:07
ivoksif you are using only ubuntu repositories, it would be a bug if anything ends up in /usr/local00:08
krunk-|workbut removing the /usr/local did allow the dist-upgrade to complete00:08
krunk-|worklet's hope the reboot works o.O00:09
krunk-|workI'll dance a jig if it does heeh00:09
maxbkrunk-|work: The *only* things that end up in /usr/local as a result of Ubuntu packages should be empty directories for local sysadmins to add things to to integrate with installed systems (and the occasional index/control file when the relevant thing requires such a file in any integration point directory)00:12
ivokstake care...00:17
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse
krunk-|workwell, the kernel came up. wonder how long it'll take to fsck this 3TB volume00:19
uvirtbotNew bug: #330982 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "old_passwords.cnf: No such file or directory" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33098201:00
krunk-|workI think evm may be futzing with my hardware raid/fstab setup01:16
krunk-|workhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58395801:16
krunk-|workhappened from feisty => gutsy upgrade01:16
FrankT-QcHello, anybody here ?01:19
FrankT-QcAllo ? Hello ?01:26
mathiaz!ask | FrankT-Qc01:33
ubottuFrankT-Qc: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)01:33
FrankT-QcHi ! There's been an important security update in vsftpd and I was wondering to whom should I raise a flag so that it makes it to the repos as fast as possible ??? Any Idea ?01:33
mathiazFrankT-Qc: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn01:35
mathiazFrankT-Qc: ^^ has guideline about reporting security issues01:35
FrankT-Qcmathiaz : Would you suggest I fill a bug report even if that's already fixed in the most recent version of the software ?01:36
mathiazFrankT-Qc: is it fixed in a version that is in the archive?01:38
FrankT-Qcnot in the archive...01:38
mathiazFrankT-Qc: you can always file a bug report01:38
FrankT-Qcalright, i'll try this01:38
mathiazFrankT-Qc: bug report are for packages in the archive01:38
keesFrankT-Qc: also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSecurity01:40
FrankT-Qcmathias : Just to make this clear : vsftpd 2.0.7 (in the archive) had an issue and vsftpd 2.1.0 (not yet in the archive) doesn't anymore... What I'm curious about is weither this should be signaled so that 2.1.0 makes it to the archive as fast as possible... still suggest a bug report ?01:41
mathiazFrankT-Qc: the security is tracking bug report marked as security vulnerabilities. They will take appropriate actions.01:45
mathiazFrankT-Qc: the security *team*01:45
FrankT-Qcthanks !01:46
krunk-|workis there a way to get a status bar when fsck'ing a file system?01:49
Kamping_Kaiserfsck usually prints out [ ==== \     ] type status things01:52
krunk-|workman fsck :P01:53
krunk-|workkrunk-|work: rtfm n00b!01:53
krunk-|workheh01:53
krunk-|workfsck -C01:53
krunk-|worknow I wonder how to get it to do that during init01:53
Kamping_Kaiseradmitedly i'm not running u-server, but it does that on all my boxens :/01:54
kansanbackups dont seem to be working?01:54
kansani'm sorry ;  i mean ;  cron seems not to be running01:54
=== cjwatson1 is now known as cjwatson
DelvienTrying to setup a webserver, have SQL/PHP/Apache2 up and running ( i think) but having some issues, and i think they are SQL related. I followed some guides online and when it asks me to set a password i get errors.  I have no idea what to do now02:18
DelvienIs there a good guide online?02:18
thewrathwhen you installed server did you seelct lamp?02:19
DelvienYep02:19
Delviensudo tasksel also reflects this02:19
vorianDelvien: http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/mysql-set-change-reset-root-password/02:20
vorianor sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.002:21
Delvienvorian that set the info02:23
vorianrock on02:23
Delvienvorian still not loading the page though.. so maybe its not an SQL problem02:23
vorianwhere is your page located, and is it writeable?02:24
Delvien/home/user/www02:24
DelvienIts writable02:24
DelvienWell, wordpress just said it wasnt.. grr02:25
thewrathlol02:25
thewrathmake sure02:25
vorianchmod 777 -R ~/www/wordpress-name02:25
Delviena bit farther now02:27
DelvienI have all the wordpress filed in the root of www since that is the only site for now02:27
Delvienfiles*02:28
voriani see02:28
vorianso is it working for ya?02:28
Delvieneh, its "running the install" but not doing anything02:28
Delvienso i dont think it is02:28
vorianyou can use the example config, and skip the install02:29
chmacI'm trying `sudo ls /var/lib/php5/` and the command seems to be running indefinitely...02:30
chmacAny advice?02:31
Delvienvorian did that, loaded a GUI less page02:31
Delvienvorian that i click log in and it does nothing02:31
DelvienWhat's funny is that this was working 15 mins ago, I changed blog URL and some other URL and bam, doesnt load now02:32
vorianah02:32
vorianDelvien: install phpmyadmin02:33
vorianyou will have to change your database02:33
vorianonce installed, just type www.yourkewlsite.net/phpmyadmin02:34
Delvienvorian ah, some database info was screwed up02:36
vorianyes, wordpress stores your site url in the database02:36
vorianif it doesn't match your actual url, you have to manualy fix it02:37
Delvienvorian http://reidthegeek.com/ test it out for ma02:38
vorianDelvien: works for me!02:39
Delvienit keeps loading from my dns name or making reference to it02:40
Delvienit's strange, for the life of me, it should just be loading the URL, but instead it references loading the dns name02:42
vorianit loads fine for me02:42
DelvienIt does for me too, but I dont want it loading the dns name02:43
vorianah02:43
Delvienvorian i love WP... seriousl02:46
Delvienseriously02:46
vorianDelvien: it is quite nice :)02:47
Delvienvorian even got the Iphone plugin installed for my android phone, and all u iphoners02:47
vorianpfft02:48
Delvienvorian what?02:48
vorianmy phone is a bsd phone :P02:48
vorian(it just happens to be made by apple)02:49
DelvienYou can admit you have an Iphone.02:49
vorian02:50
evarlastosx is not bsd. sorry :(02:52
Delvienlol02:53
geniiosx is basically AppleUnix03:13
thewrathis there wobi for 9.0403:44
w33d5does anyone know of a way on UBUNTU SERVER (NO Window Manager) to Mount a DVD and RUN a SCRIPT (DVD Backup)03:49
w33d5automatically that is03:49
krunk-I've just upgraded to ubuntu 7.10 from ubuntu 7.04. I'd like to upgrade to the LTS edition04:34
krunk-is that jus t a matter or changing sources?04:35
geniikrunk-: No04:40
geniikrunk-: See http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)04:40
racecar-56i need to make a user to su to root and delete a user that was formerly the only one and then use root to make it again with no password, what to do?05:05
Kamping_Kaiserboot single user05:06
racecar-56how?05:06
racecar-56i have the 'login:' prompt05:06
Kamping_Kaiserctrl+alt+del the box so it reboots, then when grub counts down press escape and select 'single user'05:07
racecar-56ok05:07
Kamping_Kaisertheres probably a detailed guide on the wiki/help site05:07
racecar-56ok im on the grub menu i have 'Ubuntu 8.10 blah blah blah blah blah 2.6.27-7-server' and a recovery mode, is recovery mode right? (i also have a memtest86+ but i obviously know that is NOT gonna help)\05:09
Kamping_Kaiseryeah, recovery mode05:10
racecar-56*chooses recovery mode and lol's at BIG VERBOSITY* root shell?05:10
racecar-56what do i pick?05:12
Kamping_Kaisernot sure what you get with ubuntu recovery shell - a root terminal , if thats an option05:15
racecar-56yea there is05:16
Kamping_Kaiserand please dont pm me05:16
racecar-56ok05:16
racecar-56ok im on root prompt05:16
Kamping_Kaisernow remove/add the user as you normally would05:17
racecar-56ok05:18
racecar-56ok it fussing that i didnt give it a password05:18
geniiYou might want to add them to some group which has sudo rights05:18
racecar-56ok05:19
geniiWeird. freenode keeps disconnecting me when it can't ping me for 30 secs05:21
racecar-56hmm05:21
racecar-56what id is root's group by default, 1000? 0?05:22
Kamping_Kaiserum, wha?05:22
geniiracecar-56: Use adm gid instead, root's is dangerous to give to a user05:22
Kamping_Kaiserisnt 'admin' sudoers group?05:22
geniiKamping_Kaiser: Yes05:23
geniiracecar-56: Please don't PM me05:23
racecar-56ok so how do i be able to make a user that auto-logs on05:24
Kamping_Kaiserwhy would you want that?05:27
racecar-56so i wont have to unplug my keyboard and plug it into my server and 'blindly' type in the username and pass05:28
racecar-56my server is a hp mediasmart ex47505:28
ScottKracecar-56: You can't ssh into the server?05:29
racecar-56scottk: well, im 'setting up' my sever on a real pc first05:29
racecar-56scottk: because i dont have a way to see anything the server displays, the server has no video card05:30
ScottKOK, do yourself a favor and learn to ssh into the box.  That'll work better.05:30
racecar-56it isnt on the internet05:30
Kamping_Kaiserif its not on a network, how is it a server?05:30
racecar-56ok look, i am following these crazy instructions...05:31
racecar-56i have to take my server's HDD out and put it into a real pc and install ubuntu like nothing05:31
racecar-56then set up remote access... however i can't do remote access unless i'm logged into sever right?05:31
racecar-56(remote access = ssh)05:32
ScottKIf you install the ssh server you should be able to just log in via ssh.05:32
racecar-56i did install ssh server05:32
racecar-56so all i gotta do is put my server's hd back into sever and turn on the server?05:33
racecar-56(obviously it's on the internet and does have cable)05:33
ScottKAssuming networking starts correctly (generally it will).05:34
racecar-56does ubuntu's setup only execute drivers that it detects matching devices for? or will it load my server's matching hardware drivers (which is A LOT different)?05:35
Kamping_Kaiseralthough you may have issues with the ethernet devices changing (udevs fault)05:36
racecar-56oh noes05:36
racecar-56will it work on internet?05:36
racecar-56at all?05:36
racecar-56by the way the re-creation of my racecar56 user actually made me not a sudoer... DARN, no more root access!05:37
racecar-56good gracious i fell like re-installing it05:38
Kamping_Kaiserdid you add yourself to the correct group (as genii suggested)05:38
racecar-56i dont know the gid so no05:38
genii11405:39
Kamping_Kaiser<genii> You might want to add them to some group which has sudo rights05:39
Kamping_Kaiser<Kamping_Kaiser> isnt 'admin' sudoers group?05:39
racecar-56i dont know how to add a user to a group05:41
racecar-56good gracious i fell like re-installing ubuntu server05:41
Kamping_Kaiseruse gpasswd05:42
* genii ponders usermod -G admin username -a05:42
geniiI can never recall were the -a goes05:42
geniiMight be right after the -G05:43
racecar-56my username is racecar56, what do i do?05:43
Kamping_Kaisergenii, i prefer gpasswd -a user group (less chance of buggering things up afaik)05:44
geniiKamping_Kaiser: Yes05:44
racecar-56ok05:45
racecar-56that fixed it05:45
geniiKamping_Kaiser: I apologise for my BSD-isms (adm, usermod)05:46
racecar-56lolz05:46
racecar-56i do freebsd on a virtual machine sometimes05:46
Kamping_Kaisergenii, hah. I'll be your friend anyway :p05:46
racecar-56so all i have to do is put my server's HDD (thats in the pc) back to the server and turn it on and that's all?05:47
* genii makes another pot of coffee05:47
racecar-56sorry glitched out05:49
racecar-56so all i have to do is put my server's HDD (thats in the pc) back to the server and turn it on and that's all?05:49
racecar-56ok i went and put my server's hd in server and i ping'd the server's IP but its offline05:58
racecar-56anyone here?06:00
geniiracecar-56: How is it's IP decided?06:02
racecar-56i install'd ubuntu server on my 'server' (my pc with server's HDD) and i told its ip to be 192.168.1.8006:03
racecar-56and i ping'd it when my server was on and it has 100% packet loss so that means it isnt online...06:04
racecar-56the little Ethernet light is flashing06:04
geniiracecar-56: You told a router to assign 192.168.1.80 to the box which has a specific mac address corresponding to the servers ethernet adapter, or you edited /etc/network/interfaces, or what?06:06
racecar-56when i installed ubuntu, it failed to use DHCP (it wasnt plugged in anyway) so i told it to use 192.168.1.80 as the ip (static)06:07
geniiracecar-56: Did you also tell it to use whatever the ip of the router or so is as it's default gateway?06:09
racecar-56yes06:09
racecar-56my router is 192.168.1.1 and i told its gateway to be that06:09
racecar-56(for specs its a linksys wrt54gs)06:10
geniiOK, good. Maybe it's just not responding to ping. Try ssh in06:10
racecar-56literally run 'ssh in'?06:11
racecar-56or the servers ip06:11
geniiracecar-56: eg:   ssh -l some-name-that-exists-on-server 192.168.1.8006:13
racecar-56some-name-that-exists-on-server is hostname?06:13
racecar-56hostname of server is racecar56-hpsvr06:14
geniiUm no06:14
racecar-56ok06:14
geniiIf I have a username on there like: George then:        ssh -l George 192.168.1.8006:14
racecar-56ohhhh username... right?06:15
racecar-56like on login?06:15
geniiYes06:15
racecar-56ok so i will do 'ssh -l racecar56 192.168.1.80'06:15
racecar-56ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.80 port 22: No route to host06:15
geniiracecar-56: BTW the hyphen in your hostname might be causing a problem06:16
racecar-56ok06:16
racecar-56can i fix that?06:16
geniiracecar-56: Yes but in same manner you just fixed the other username issue06:16
racecar-56ok06:17
racecar-56i guess ill get its HDD out then... and put it in my pc06:17
geniiracecar-56: If you can help me a bit... put my nick in anything you wish me to see... I'm in ~14 channels and I'll see it whichever one I'm in at the moment06:18
racecar-56k06:18
keeskrunk-: you can  kill -USR1 $(pidof fsck)   to get it to start showing the progress bar if you forgot to run it with -C06:19
kees(assuming you're doing a ext2/3/4 fsck)06:20
racecar-56genii i have the login prompt now, what do i do?06:22
geniiracecar-56: I will be /away in about 10-15 minutes (It's about 1:20AM here and my irc client is here whenther I am or not, it just marks me /away when i leave). So if I'm not responding remember I'll read everything next time I'm awake.06:23
geniiracecar-56: Change the hostname06:23
racecar-56ok06:23
geniiracecar-56: EG:  hostname racecar56hpsvr               or such06:24
geniiracecar-56: Avoid characters you would not see in a real domain hostname06:24
racecar-56genii i changed it06:27
geniiracecar-56: Good. While there maybe do:  tail /var/log/messages                    and see if anything remarkable that might be causing the prob if not the bad hostname06:28
racecar-56genii sudo is fussing 'unable to resolve host racecar56hpsvr'06:29
racecar-56genii if i sudo a command it will say that06:30
geniiracecar-56: hats OK. The ethernet adapter in there right now is seen as eth1 and it's messing up gateway etc etc. Although you may anyhow want to add it's own ip and name to the resolv.conf or hosts file06:31
geniiracecar-56: Also the router IP to resolv.conf as a nameserver06:33
racecar-56genii it still says that06:34
racecar-56genii im going to move the computer to my desk so ill have internet06:35
geniiracecar-56: Yup, networking has not been restarted, etc. But being in a different box makes this problemmatic in other ways anyhow. You should be able to just put it in it's original case and hook it up now, etc06:36
p_quarlesvorian: it's true; OS X != BSD06:38
p_quarleson the other hand, my phone does actually run a Linux kernel /smug06:39
racecar-56genii i tried powering up server with its HDD and it still dosen't ssh06:40
geniiracecar-56: When you installed to that drive, was it in the box you keep shifting it to, or in the server box ?06:41
racecar-56genii the HDD came with the server if thats what ur asking06:41
geniiracecar-56: It wasn't.06:42
geniiracecar-56: EG: is the box HDD is in now... was ubuntu installed while HDD in there?06:42
genii("server")06:43
racecar-56genii server, its in the server and server is on06:44
geniiracecar-56: OK. Because whatever ethernet adapter was in box when you installed has resrved spot of eth0. So this can mess networking up if you install on one box, shift to different box (or even just swap ethernet adapter)06:46
racecar-56genii ok so move it to my pc again?06:48
geniiracecar-56: It's 1:48AM here and work for me starts in 6 hours so I'm not gonna be around much longer. The main idea is: double check network IP/gateway/hostname/default route is all correct. Make sure static IP stuff for eth0 for exqample is set properly in /etc/network/interfaces. Make sure it knows how to resolv it's own name to it's own IP. MAke sure ssh-srver is installed and starting during boot. etc06:52
geniiracecar-56: When this box is booted up, does it have internet access?06:55
racecar-56no06:56
racecar-56genii im sorry but i never finished the moving projects06:57
* genii ponders "moving projects"06:58
racecar-56*project06:59
racecar-56genii i got it moved07:02
geniiracecar-56: You physically moved the server someplace...? You moved the HDD between boxes again..?07:03
racecar-56genii i moved the pc back to my desk.. it has internet cable plugged in now07:04
geniiThe fastest way currently would just be to temporaily attach a keyboard and monitor to whatever the server box is while the hdd is in it, figure out the prob and solve it, then remove keyboard and monitor, complete whatever else from ssh in from other box07:05
racecar-56the server dosent have a vid card07:05
geniiracecar-56: So then how did you initially install ubuntu on the hdd?07:05
racecar-56i put my sever's HDD in my pc and installed ubuntu07:06
* genii head-desks07:06
geniiI'm pretty sure I asked this Q of you and you indicated to me it was the other way around07:06
racecar-56orly?07:06
geniiYes07:07
racecar-56hmm07:07
racecar-56seems like i dont have internet access on the pc07:08
racecar-56with my servers HDD07:08
geniiAnyhow. When it is in the server, the ethernet adapter it uses will be eth1 and not eth0. So you have to make entries inthe /etc/network/interfaces file for a static config with IP of 192.168.1.80 gateway/defaultrouter of 192.168.1.1 and so on.07:08
geniiracecar-56: Does:  ifconfig      show anything other than the interface "lo"  ?07:10
racecar-56yes07:10
racecar-56it shows eth0 and l007:10
racecar-56*lo07:10
geniieth0, yes?07:10
racecar-56yes07:10
racecar-56no eth107:10
geniiYes, I thought I explained this in painful detail why eth0 vs eth1   when changing computers/ethernet adapters already07:11
racecar-56i wonder why it dosent show eth107:11
racecar-56i using pc so it no show?07:11
geniieth1 is in server and not in pc07:11
racecar-56yes ok07:12
* genii watches the light bulb begin to shine07:12
geniiracecar-56: Sorry, I'm frustrated, don't mean to take it out on you. Just that we could have been past this point ages ago if you answered an earlier Q properly07:13
racecar-56ok07:13
geniiracecar-56: So you need to make an entry in /etc/network/interfaces   exactly like the one there which is for eth0 but for eth1 instead. Maybe even use a different IP so the two don't conflict.07:14
racecar-56ok07:14
* racecar-56 headdesks because i cant copy the text07:15
racecar-56ok im done07:16
geniiracecar-56: If you:  nano /etc/network/interfaces                    then just use ctrl-k to copy the eth0 lines and ctrl-u to paste them again. Then go up manually and edit 0 to 1.    ctrl-x to exit, Y for "Yes" to save. Enter key to confirm same name07:16
SkyNetMasterhi, Im just installed ubuntu-server on brand new mashine. which runs on hardware raid 1. but I get dropt into busybox with message: gave up waiting for root device. what is problem?07:17
racecar-56im done with network interfaces07:17
geniiracecar-56: Good :)   if you use: sudo ls                              does it currently complain about not finding itself?07:18
racecar-56unable to resolve host racecar56hpsvr07:18
geniiracecar-56: OK. Is there a line in /etc/hosts which reads like:              192.168.1.80 racecar56hpsvr07:20
geniiWhere 192.168.1.80 is eth1 IP07:20
racecar-56ahhh it has a - like my old hostname07:20
racecar-56*fixes*07:20
geniiGood.07:20
racecar-56WOOT IT FIXED07:20
geniiracecar-56: Try the sudo ls again07:21
racecar-56sudo is working now07:21
geniiracecar-56: Good.07:21
geniiracecar-56: I think should be ok to swap back now07:21
racecar-56it does not have internet access (sudo apt-get update dosent work)07:22
racecar-56by the way it says i should have had a seprate boot partition07:22
racecar-56im following this: http://samuel.thollander.net/projects/linux-on-hp-ex470/07:22
geniiracecar-56: There are other things here which can also be an issue. the server may not put same geometry on the hdd as the pc does for instance. But hard to check that without some useful output device like a ct07:23
genii*crt07:23
geniiracecar-56: Was there defaultroute or gateway so entry in the /etc/network/interfaces  for your eth0 and eth1 ?07:24
racecar-56maybe i should do a reinstall because all of these problems just because of no internet07:25
racecar-56yes07:25
racecar-56there was a lo and eth0 in there but i had to make a eth1 entry07:25
racecar-56*restarts with ctrl+alt+del*07:26
geniiracecar-56: So in there you have like 5 lines similar to:07:26
geniibah07:26
racecar-56when i restarted it still has no internet07:26
racecar-56think i should boot the server again?07:27
geniiracecar-56: Lines like: auto eth1     then: iface eth1 inet static     then: address 192.168.1.80     then: netmask 255.255.255.0     then: gateway 192.168.1.107:27
racecar-56yes07:28
geniiGood.07:28
racecar-56wait a sec......07:28
geniiracecar-56: check ssh-server is in07:28
racecar-56ok07:28
racecar-56OMG07:28
racecar-56SSH ACCESS07:29
racecar-56IT WORKS WHEN ITS ON PC O_O07:29
racecar-56ok, i tried ssh 192.168.1.81 (my eth0's address) and it works07:29
geniiGood.07:30
racecar-56im gonna server boot now07:30
geniiracecar-56: I'd say we know the essential things are there now07:30
racecar-56*turns off pc*07:30
* genii sips his decaf07:30
geniiracecar-56: I shoulda been in bed a long time ago now but I'll hang in to see the results so far07:31
racecar-56ok07:31
SkyNetMasterno suggestions on /dev/mapper problem?07:32
racecar-56i dont know how to fix..07:33
geniiSkyNetMaster: This some ICH10 chipset hardware raid?07:34
SkyNetMasterits is intel 5000 server motherboard07:34
SkyNetMasterI have too chech the specific chip07:35
SkyNetMasterI found on the net that I should try to boot with linux nodmraid07:35
SkyNetMasterbut I hava no clue where to enter this commad07:35
racecar-56grub07:36
racecar-56edit your grub07:36
geniiSkyNetMaster: At end of grub line which loads kernel07:36
racecar-56press escape when it comes up07:36
SkyNetMasterok, so afther /boot/vm***** root=/dev/mapper/**07:37
geniiSkyNetMaster: At any rate... if it is an ICH10 chipset.... you need ahci driver07:37
geniiSkyNetMaster: Yes, at end of that line07:38
geniiracecar-56: server booted yet?07:38
racecar-56no07:40
racecar-56putting my pc back together07:40
geniiAh07:40
racecar-56now im putting my servers hd into the case07:40
racecar-56and the case in the server07:40
SkyNetMastergenii : it is only intel chips on board, cant find any traice of info about ICH10 on board07:40
geniiSkyNetMaster: OK. Gimme a sec I'll try to find the specs07:41
SkyNetMastergenii : the board http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/s5000vsa/howto.htm07:42
SkyNetMasterthe stange thing is if I create LV then installing it works07:42
geniiOK. AFK07:42
SkyNetMasterthe linux nodmraid did do anything, I got droped back to BusyBox07:43
racecar-56booting sever07:43
racecar-56*server07:43
geniiSkyNetMaster: Looks like it has it's own integrated "5000" chipset or so. Not sure what driver that might need.07:44
geniiSkyNetMaster: Well, if you have /dev/mapper/whatever             then it has no viable root07:44
racecar-56hmm looks like im getting the same error on ssh07:44
geniiracecar-56: Can you ping it's eth1 IP?07:45
SkyNetMastergenii could manual partitioning solve it?07:46
SkyNetMasteror it coud be enough to edig fstab?07:47
geniiSkyNetMaster: Not sure :/07:47
geniiSkyNetMaster: I don't know enough about your motherboard to recommend a course of action at this point that I'd feel good about07:47
racecar-56no it dosent ping right07:48
racecar-56and ssh still dont work07:48
racecar-56but im really tired and i wanna go to bed07:49
racecar-56see you tomorrow07:49
geniiracecar-56: I'm starting to think the server sees the HD differently than the pc07:49
racecar-56ok07:49
geniieg: It doesn't get to boot stage because the way server sees it07:49
SkyNetMastergenii : grup question, I have edited line, but then I reboot the line look like old one, so it dind saved, why is so07:50
geniiSkyNetMaster: When you edit when it is during boot, change is only that time07:50
geniiSkyNetMaster: For permanent you have to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file from in linux for it to be permanent07:51
geniiBleh, tired. Keep repeating words etc07:51
racecar-56goodbye07:52
* genii prepares a large urn of coffee for the channel before he goes /away07:53
SkyNetMastergenii booing to recovery kernel I get a lot of message, many of them is about: driver 'sr' need updating - please use bus_type methods. does this say anything usefull07:54
twbSkyNetMaster: I get that all the time, and I don't know why.  I imagine that sr is the SCSI subsytem, which is also used for SATA disks.07:54
SkyNetMasterhu, I wonder if installing this would solve the problem http://intel.driversdown.com/Intel-drivers/Intel-Server-Board-S5000VSA-SAS-Software-RAID-Driver_73927.shtml07:55
SkyNetMasterbut how do I install driver without be able too boot?07:55
twbSkyNetMaster: IME installing third-party drivers rarely helps.08:00
twbJust, you know, as a general rule.08:00
SkyNetMasterok, but the questions is how do I fix it? :) the problem08:01
twbSkyNetMaster: I haven't been paying attention; can you summarize the symptoms in one or two lines?08:01
geniihttp://downloadmirror.intel.com/17068/eng/ESRT2_Linux_v.11.02.0626.2008_2.zip   is the driver Intel provides. Gonna look at it shortly08:03
SkyNetMasterI have a system on intel s5000VSA board, with RAID 1 enabled, installiations works fine, I do guided partiotioning using whole disk. then I reboot I get dropt to BusyBox with error "gave up waitning for root" and ALERT! that /dev/mapper/*** does not exist. ls /dev/mapper/show that device exist08:03
SkyNetMasterI have tryed to bood with linux nodmraid, but it didn't help08:04
twbSkyNetMaster: OK, two obvious questions: hardware raid, or md (software) raid?  Secondly, you installed using the server CD (not the live CD)?08:05
SkyNetMasterI use hardware raid, and installiation is server cd08:05
twbYou're in busybox on that host right now?08:06
SkyNetMasteryes08:06
twbSo /proc/mdstat should not exist.08:06
geniiBah. RHEL/SLES source code in there08:06
twbAnd "lvm pvdisplay" should work, and should print a PV.08:06
SkyNetMasterthe /proc/mdstat does not exist, and so doesn't lvm command08:08
twbWhat is it looking for within /dev/mapper?08:08
SkyNetMastercontrol and 3 ddf1_**** one of the is which is claimed not to be found08:10
twbHmm.  Is your host called "ddf1"?08:10
twbRather: what hostname did you use during installation?08:10
SkyNetMasterno08:10
SkyNetMasternames are like 30 char long08:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #331410 in net-snmp (main) "CVE-2008-6123: not fixed in latest security releases" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33141008:11
SkyNetMasterand the hos is like server_108:12
SkyNetMastertwb this seems strange, that the device have another mane, not host name. and the name is so wierd08:14
twbSkyNetMaster: oh, it's trying to mount /dev/mapper/<long series of hexadecimal digits and hyphens/underscores> ?08:15
twbThat will be the UUID08:16
twbSkyNetMaster: look in /proc/partitions.  Do you see entries like sda and sda1 in there?08:17
SkyNetMastertwb : the one is named ddf1_4c_53492020202020208086820000000036ce69420000145008:17
twbOK, that's not a filesystem UUID.08:18
SkyNetMastertwb actualy the other 2 have the same name but with aditional digit08:18
twbSkyNetMaster: I'm still interested in the contents of /proc/partitions08:18
SkyNetMastertwb : no, I see nothing with ls, ls -all gives -r--r--r-- 1 0 0 0 /proc/partitions08:19
twbSkyNetMaster: that file is always empty.08:21
twbSkyNetMaster: please *cat* it, and look at the output.08:21
SkyNetMastertwb : sorry :) I se sda and sdb08:23
SkyNetMastertwb the sizes and digits maches sda to sdb08:23
twbSkyNetMaster: OK, so according to the kernel, you have two disks and neither have any partitions (no sda[1234] or sdb[1234])08:24
SkyNetMasterI have sda[12] and the same with sdb08:24
SkyNetMastertwb: but from the kerrnel point of view I should only have one disk08:25
twbSkyNetMaster: right.08:25
twbSkyNetMaster: that means either you didn't enable hardware raid properly, or it is a shitty raid card that doesn't do its job properly/08:25
twbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FakeRAID08:25
SkyNetMastertwb raid card is build on the boar, intel server board08:27
SkyNetMastertwb what would be the soliution to this, I can go back to bios and chech the settings but I followed guid to enable raid, and bios reports online status OK08:28
twbI usually use md raid, because hardware raid is almost always really shit08:29
kinnazdepends for what08:29
kinnazfor mirroring software raid is shit08:29
twbIf you paid less than AUD$300 for your RAID card, it's not gonna be a real raid card.08:29
twbkinnaz: >handwaving<.  It's still less hassle than trying to find a compatible hardware raid controller in two years when the motherboard unexpectedly dies or whatever.08:31
twbkinnaz: with md raid I know that I can slap the drives into just about any hardware and and linux distro and they'll be readable08:31
kinnazim using raid as redudancy not backup08:32
SkyNetMasterso you sugest to disable the hardware raid?08:32
twbOf course, I tend not to work on enterprise-level gear, so expensive (i.e. quality) raid cards usually aren't available to me.08:32
SkyNetMasterthe redundancy,in case of failure of one drive is my goal as well08:32
kinnazSkyNetMaster, what benefit you get from being able to read from other box then ?08:32
kinnazSkyNetMaster, server is still down08:32
kinnazSkyNetMaster, clients are yelling at you08:33
twbkinnaz: having a backup drive is no good if the controller dies and you can't read the disks anymore, because newer controllers have a slightly different format.  The controller becomes a SPOF08:33
kinnaztwb, backup is in backup server over iscsi08:33
twbkinnaz: by "backup drive" I meant the second node in the RAID1 array08:33
SkyNetMasterkinnaz with hardware raid 1 if one disk goes done I have time to chenge it and auto-rebuild08:34
kinnaztwb, sure you are fcked when controller dies08:34
twbkinnaz: right, that's all I was saying08:35
twbkinnaz: with md raid, you don't need to care what kind of controller's you're using or buy spares.08:35
kinnazbut still there is much more bigger chance of driver dieing , and i have heard about some horrible stories about soft raid and rebuild of array08:35
kinnazrebuilding of node...08:35
twbI haven't had any real problems with md RAID08:35
kinnazdrive*08:35
kinnazi have only used md raid on oen box, and have seen one problem with it, when the other drive was syncing system was unable to boot correctly08:36
kinnazso i needed to run in recovery mode to get the box working again08:36
twbhardware raid always causes me problems, having to install special (i.e. buggy) closed-source x86 binaries to manipulate the array without rebooting into BIOS and similar shit.08:36
SkyNetMasterhum, how then I activate sotware raid during install?08:37
jussi01Can we lay off on the swear words please?08:37
kinnazthe vocabulary of sysadmin08:37
kinnazwhat can we do08:37
twbSkyNetMaster: you need to use the manual partitioner instead of choosing "guided"08:39
krautmoin08:41
SkyNetMastertwb ok, question, I have left hw raid on for one more try. now then I get question activate serial ATA RAID device; should I maybe say no?08:42
SkyNetMastertwb then maybe linux kernel will se only one disk?08:42
kinnazSkyNetMaster,if you havent made array in raid bios, setup will see two drives08:43
SkyNetMasterI have mayde it08:44
kinnazi would suggest to destroy it then08:44
SkyNetMasterbut the both drives where present in /proc/partitions08:44
twbkinnaz: I have seen some very stupid hardware raids which need a tainted kernel module before the kernel will see the array as a single drive :-/08:44
kinnaztwb, thats quite common knowldege that random/cheap hw raids are worse then softraid08:45
SkyNetMasteroh, so remove hw raid ?08:45
kinnaztwb, aswell intergrate raid adapters08:45
kinnazintegrated08:45
SkyNetMasterwill auto-rebuild still work?08:45
twbkinnaz: IIRC this wasn't fakeraid08:46
kinnazwhat vendor ?08:47
twbI don't remember that, unfortunately.08:47
twbnot 3ware08:47
SkyNetMasterintel S5000VSA08:47
kinnazthou my exp with hw traid is quite limited, 3ware and LSI logic only08:47
kinnazraid08:47
twbMy biggest problems with hw raid boil down to "it wasn't 3ware, you cheapskate customer!" :-)08:48
SkyNetMasterwell, need to visit litle room08:51
SkyNetMastertwb when I enter manual partiotioning I se this "one raid disk"08:54
SkyNetMasterwith really crazy long name08:55
tgbryano_im using hardy server edition and have connected to it remotely using vnc however I can not change anything that requires authorisation i.e. changing the time, the unlock button is always grey - help!!08:58
SkyNetMasterdoes software raid supports hot swap?08:59
twbSkyNetMaster: I *think* so, but I've never tried it.09:00
twbSATA supposedly is always hot-swappable too, I heard.09:01
SkyNetMasterwell, I tryed the manual partitioning of hw raid, and se if it works.09:01
twbtgbryano_: why do you expect to have administrative rights on that machine?09:01
tgbryano_because I am connected to it as root, its a headless server09:02
tgbryano_i am trying to convince my company to go for ubuntu instead of RHEL but so far its just been a right pain getting stuff to work09:02
tgbryano_i have tried editing polkit when logged in via vnc but it still greys out the unlock box!09:03
kinnazbasicaly is it just filesystem09:04
kinnazor software raid09:04
kinnazin terms of hot swapping there is no difference09:04
kinnazbut im always too afraid to hotswap normal sata drives09:04
kinnazonly ones on some highend controllers then i know my drives wont die09:05
twbtgbryano_: so you're using selinux?09:06
tgbryano_we disable selinux in RHEL09:06
tgbryano_can policykit be disabled?09:06
twbtgbryano_: isn't polkit just selinux stuff?09:06
twbselinux is disabled by default on Debian and Ubuntu, unless that has changed recently.  However, it's *packages* are probably installed by default.09:06
twb*its09:06
tgbryano_im not familiar with selinux so cant say, i just need to be able to change stuff connected as a root vnc session09:07
twbtgbryano_: I just wondered why you wer emessing with polkit when selinux is normally off09:08
tgbryano_there appear to be multiple problems with hardy and vnc, loads of messages about the gnome-settings-daemon etc, im not impressed so far :(  and I love ubuntu!09:09
tgbryano_twb: polkit is enabled in hardy09:09
twbI dunno about VNC, I usually adminster machines via SSH (as the goddess intended!)09:09
tgbryano_me too but we have some users with privileged accounts who like using the gui09:10
* twb digs up an 8.04 VM...09:10
twbtgbryano_: "privileged" as in they log in as themselves and use sudo only when necessary?09:10
tgbryano_yup09:10
twbtgbryano_: OK, so right now you're pretending to be one of those users and seeing if everything works?09:11
tgbryano_yup09:11
twbOK, run "sudo -l", does it say they're allowed to run things?09:12
twbLooks like polkit isn't installed by default for a *server* install.09:12
tgbryano_if i connect a monitor to the server and fire up gnome the unlock button is available and I can put in my password, over vnc it is always greyed out09:12
twbIt's pulled in by hal and gnome09:12
twb...and it's nothing to do with selinux, whoops09:12
twbtgbryano_: I'm interested in "sudo -l" output in a terminal emulator, over VNC.09:13
twbtgbryano_: I want to establish if the underlying authentication is busted, or if it's GNOME's fault.09:13
tgbryano_theres quite a few posts on the net about this issue09:14
tgbryano_at the moment im connected as root over vnc so should have unrestricted access to everything09:14
twbtgbryano_: OK, I guess you know more than me then :-)09:14
tgbryano_twb: probably not :)09:15
twbtgbryano_: by "over VNC" do you mean you're using the GNOME VNC server, or the older/plainer Xvncserver?09:15
tgbryano_vnc4server package, the gnome vnc relies on you having a constant gnome session running to reconnect to09:16
twbOK, cool.09:16
twb(I don't trust gnome)09:16
SkyNetMastertwb when I disable hw raid the ubuntu cant find dh09:18
uvirtbotNew bug: #331444 in dhcp3 (main) "dhclient3-apparmor ifup script gets stuck if apparmor is not installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33144409:21
tgbryano_so is there a fix/workaround ?09:22
twbSkyNetMaster: dunno, sorry.09:28
twbtgbryano_: dunno, sorry.09:28
twb:-P09:28
tgbryano_no probs thanks anyway09:28
SkyNetMastertwb I have disabled hw raid, ang activated software, but I get serial ATA RAID disk with the same wierd name as before, and guise it vill not work again09:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #331451 in openssh (main) "Unable to connect to 3Com devices with 1:5.1p1-3ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33145109:35
mdzsoren: what's still blocking eucalyptus getting built?  anything I can do to help unblock it?10:02
=== Nicke_ is now known as Nicke
sorenmdz: More buildd's :)10:09
sorenmdz: The version I uploaded early last night wasn't built until early this morning, but it's steadily coming along.10:10
mdzsoren: if you keep uploading a new version every few hours, it'll never get to the front of the queue ;-)10:11
sorenNow you tell me.10:12
soren:)10:12
* soren will brb10:13
* soren 's back10:16
* soren wonders what he did to deserve having GNOME play a sound when he click on things..10:19
soren*clicks10:19
normanmhi all. how can I add a /32 ip address to /etc/network/interfaces. I tried with netmask 255.255.255.255 but when I use ifup interface name I get : SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address10:51
normanmbut the interface works ok.10:51
normanmits a virtual interfaces10:51
normanmeth0:226010:52
* soren wonderes what purpose it serves10:53
normanmsoren: its just for nating a dhcprange10:53
soren...but to a /32 subnet? That doesn't sound like what you really want to do10:54
normanmsoren: Even if i use the "real netmask" (/27) I get the errror10:55
sorenWhat have you put in your interfaces file?10:58
normanmsoren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/12377310:59
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 123773 in wireless-tools "'SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address' when setting up ip alias" [Undecided,Fix released]10:59
normanmok so it's known...10:59
normanmsoren: so nevermind.. it works I will just ignore the message11:00
giacomo__hello admins12:06
giacomo__I've messed something up with the sendmail. I was trying to send email from a local apache+php server using phpmailer library+sendmail, but something is not working at service level and I can't trace the problem because every /var/log/mail* log is empty and none of the are being written. How can I quit this stuck point?12:06
sorengiacomo__: Are you actually using sendmail or a different mta?12:17
giacomo__soren, thanks for your attention but I'd like to ask you to wait a second because the problem has changed a bit, I'm stepping further12:19
J_Phi all12:54
J_PI have a question about wget in my server: I need a timout on it..12:55
J_PI try wget http://127.0.0.1:8081 --timeout=2 but not works. I try for 2 seconds and try agaim. I not would like try agaim. I want try a time only. is possible? I try man wget but not find nothing about not-repeat..12:55
soren--tries=1 ?12:56
sorenJ_P: ^12:57
J_Psoren: yes, now works ;-)13:02
J_Psoren: tahnks13:03
Scixhow can I tell the ssh client to like "autothrust" the remote mashines finerprint?13:13
Scixfound it. StrictHostKeyChecking has to be set to "no" in /etc/ssh/ssh_config13:19
sorenScix: That's a really bad plan, though.13:23
Scixyes, but it's on a local network on a management computer13:24
SkyNetMasterthis is really sad, I have been fighting to install ubuntu server on hd raid, and failt for several days, but centos worked out of box :(13:24
Scixsoren, it's so remote management of network clients is becoming more easy13:24
cliebowcan anyone answer questions on openldap in intrepid?cant seem to get pam.d working perfectly..(required to change password immediately (password aged)13:32
seventyeighthello! what is the name for the apparmor kernel module?13:56
seventyeightcan someone help me? i cant find anny module with a similar name13:58
ScottKseventyeight: What problem are you trying to solve?14:01
ScottKI'm reasonable certain that isn't the question you really need answered.14:01
seventyeightmaybe....all problems are solved. i want to understand apparmor generally.14:14
ScottKThere are some good wiki pages on wiki.ubuntu.com that talk about apparmor profiles and such.  That's probably the place to start.14:16
seventyeighti had read them all14:19
cliebowany decent docs you know of for intrepid openldap?14:28
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rtgsoren, dendrobates: I'm blabbing on your mailing list without being subscribed. How about moderating me?15:00
sorenrtg: Doing so..15:01
sorenrtg: Are you the one trying to sell a master's degree?15:01
sorenAh, there we go.15:01
sorenAccepted.15:02
rtgyeah, I'm giving away the one I don't have :)15:02
rtgI was so close, but never quite found the time to finish it. wife, kids, etc, conspire to keep me working.15:02
evarlasti just don't want to plug in a keybaord and press a key to see what is on the screen.15:24
evarlastanyone know how to remotely un-blank a remote linux terminal - no xwindows.15:24
sorenrtg: I'm in roughly the same boat myself.  :)15:32
rtgsoren: only your credits are likely a bit more recent then mine.15:33
heath|workis it possible to create quotas on a per folder basis.  Example:  /folder/test    /folder/test2    both folders will be accessible by 1 user, but I want the 1 user to only have a max of 1gb per folder?15:40
sorenrtg: Yeah, I don't have "Punchcards 101", for instance :)15:43
rtgsoren: ooh, that hurts.15:43
pantarheiare there differences between the packages on 8.10 and 8.04LTS? or what are the reasons to choose 8.10 over 8.04LTS?15:48
kinnazdo i need some special iso to run ubuntu server in virtualbox ? its telling me i'm missing cpu feature pae15:49
pantarheilooking for a replacement for debian cause i think on debian it's harder keep the software current....15:49
pantarheiexpecially caus it's a server for a RoR production site15:49
sorenrtg: Sorry, couldn't help myself :)15:51
evarlastis there an ltsp-update-client ?16:12
evarlastto move an ltsp install between releases?16:12
cliebowevrlast:might ask ogra in #ltsp16:35
BlinkizHi there. Does it exist a calendar file of when your server meetings are? I want to have it in my thunderbird calendar17:17
mathiazbdmurray: sbeattie: I've written up a wiki page about debugging samba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSamba18:34
* bdmurray claps18:34
mathiazbdmurray: sbeattie: what do you thinkg about it?18:34
mathiazhow should the stock reply be integrated in the Bug/Responses page?18:34
bdmurraymathiaz: if you look at Bugs/Responses you'll see the secuirty team uses a regex for including theirs18:35
bdmurraythat's what I'd recommend so you only have to update it in one place18:35
mathiazbdmurray: ok18:35
bdmurraymathiaz: I'd be consistent with //remote_system or //remote_srv18:38
NicadorHello. I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10 Intrepid. I want to disable the feature that closes my monitor after a while of inactivity. I tried searching on the forums and on Google, but with no luck. Can you please help me ?18:40
mathiazbdmurray: DebuggingSamba and Bug/Reponses page updated18:47
mathiazbdmurray: thanks for the input18:47
bdmurraymathiaz: thank you for writing it.  should I stick the repsonses in the greasemonkey script too?18:48
mathiazbdmurray: sure.18:48
mathiazbdmurray: there are different stock replies depending on the type of problems though.18:49
bdmurraymathiaz: I read that18:49
NotADJAnyone here use LDAP on Ubuntu with TLS?18:53
bdmurraymathiaz: should the upgrade failure information be gathered automatically18:54
mathiazbdmurray: if it's reported by apport, it will be included automatically18:54
uvirtbotNew bug: #315035 in nautilus (main) "Windows shares cannot be seen via 'Places >Network' in 8.04 and 8.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31503519:01
jmedinaNotADJ: here with my own CA19:02
cliebowjmedina:in intrepid?19:03
jmedinanopt, hardy19:04
jmedinaI have not used intrepid, only hardy19:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #314318 in samba (main) "Samba update crashed" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31431819:06
NotADJHello cliebow.19:06
cliebow8~)19:07
NotADJjmedina: I have added my cert paths to the slapd.conf file, and opened ldaps in the /etc/default/* file, the port opens but no form of handshake can be made.19:07
Ishmaelanyone around?19:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #321282 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3.5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32128219:11
LHCyer19:11
LHChey all19:11
Ishmaelhey19:11
Ishmaelif anyone needs to help me, this is my first time messing with cgi, i've got a .pl file that it says needs to be in cgi-bin, i have apache2 installed and not sure how to get this thing working19:12
Ishmaelread "needs" as "wants"19:13
LHCdammit I was going to insult you xD jk19:13
Ishmaelyes, i'm that important, you need to help me... >_>19:13
LHChmmm Im really noob at apache19:13
LHCjoin #apache19:13
LHCits for that xD19:13
Ishmaelkk19:13
fx3hi, im trying to set up a server in a windows environment with hostname 'userver' but i cant access it with that on my windows machines. what gives?19:18
fx3actually that is confusing, let me rephrase: We have a little shop with 10 comupters and a windows server named 'server' its accessible by that name instead of the ip. i just set up ubuntu server with hostname 'userver' alongside the windows one and i can only get to it using the IP.19:20
LHCusually wait a bit till the people who know stuff read your message, Idk anything xD19:23
fx3hehe, but your learning, right?19:24
LHCalways19:24
NicadorHello. I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10 Intrepid. I want to disable the feature that closes my monitor after a while of inactivity. I tried searching on the forums and on Google, but with no luck. Can you please help me ?19:26
racecar56hello is anyone here19:38
fx3everyone with the answers is currently occupied with their other lives. they will come back to us with the answers19:39
racecar56k19:40
fx3you should post your question, maybe i can help19:40
racecar56ok well earlier i was talking with genii and we went through a bunch of problems and fixed most, but I think the OS isn't even booting19:41
racecar56the os is ubuntu 8.10 server and im following this guide: http://samuel.thollander.net/projects/linux-on-hp-ex470/19:41
kirklandnijaba: ping19:47
racecar56i accidentally didnt make a separate /boot partition that is fat1619:47
fx3so what step are you at exactly?19:55
fx3do you have it running as a headless server or as a harddrive in another machine?19:55
racecar56its a headless server19:59
racecar56i install it on the server's hd in a pc20:00
racecar56and then i put the sever's hd back in server20:00
racecar56boom20:00
racecar56im thinking the problem why it dosent seem to have internet (i can't ping it, i can ssh it, etc) is because the OS isn't even booting.20:01
fx3aha, shit, you cant find out what the problem is cause you cant see it20:01
NicadorHello. I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10 Intrepid. I want to disable the feature that closes my monitor after a while of inactivity. I tried searching on the forums and on Google, but with no luck. Can you please help me ?20:01
NicadorPleaseeee help!!20:01
racecar56ok..20:02
racecar56wait..20:02
fx3Nicador, no need to retransmit, we heard you and we cant help you, you will have to wait for a more experienced user to come along and read your message20:02
racecar56never mind i dont know20:02
fx3Nicador, dont feel like we are ignoring you, we simply dont know how to help you20:02
racecar56try the ubuntu forums20:02
NicadorI know .. but i hope somebody knows ...20:02
Nicadorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=676226820:03
fx3hmm20:03
fx3and the booting on your PC machine works fine?20:05
racecar56yes20:05
NicadorI tried pretty much everything ... i think it's one more thing that a missed.. and it's driving me nuts/20:06
racecar56i think the BIOS checks what its booting into, and because it came with crummy ol' windows, it wants a boot partiton with fat1620:06
fx3racecar56, and theres no way you can hook up a monitor or a serial console?20:06
racecar56fx3: nope20:07
racecar56ssh is my only hope20:07
fx3well, if you install lilo on the MBR it shouldnt be a problem20:07
racecar56how? i have grub currently20:07
fx3and if the server was set to boot from the same disk then it should boot right into lilo20:07
fx3ok that should work too20:07
racecar56ok, this is what i think20:07
fx3hmm, how is it booting on your PC right now?20:08
racecar56it says 'The important stuff is to make /boot a FAT16 partition...'20:08
racecar56on my guide blog post it said that20:08
fx3ahh, so the bios only boots from fat1620:09
racecar56or 3220:09
racecar56he didnt try though20:09
racecar56yes20:09
fx3and you dont have a boot slice at all?20:09
racecar56right20:09
racecar56just 1 i think20:09
racecar56'The important stuff is to make /boot a FAT16 partition (FAT32 might work, didn’t try), about 100MiB should be enough. Install grub to the master boot record. ( (hd0) in grub terms). This might seem odd, and why yes it is.'20:09
fx3yes, so create this partition20:10
racecar56DOH20:10
fx3lol, am i missing something?20:10
racecar56resize the main one and make one there?20:10
fx3yes, that should work, gparted, or parted20:10
racecar56oh gosh, it takes ages20:10
racecar56oh well20:10
racecar56now i have to look for my gparted cd, glad i labeled it20:11
fx3how come you missed this step?20:11
racecar56i didnt read it :(20:11
fx3you can always get it from apt20:11
racecar56xorg dosent run on servers...20:11
racecar56and anyway, how would it resize itself?20:11
fx3then use parted ?20:11
fx3and i ment resize it on your PC machine20:12
racecar56i knoq20:12
racecar56*know20:12
fx3you cant be booted from a harddrive your trying to resize lol20:12
racecar56i know20:12
fx3so you might as well use normal ubuntu for it20:13
fx3with gooey20:13
racecar56thats what im saying20:13
racecar56WHAT?!?!?20:13
racecar56lol20:13
racecar56i have my pc's original HD out20:13
racecar56so i put it in, put in server's, then turn it on?20:13
fx3well, tell the bios to boot from *your* original HD20:13
racecar56ok20:14
racecar56woot i found gparted20:14
racecar56*ping...poof* lolz it does that when i take the cover off20:16
racecar56it ping cause of the little lever that you push and poof because it fell on carpet20:16
fx3ahh lol20:18
racecar56problem: my BIG graphics card wont let me put in my hd20:19
racecar56solution... ttake it out.. doh20:19
fx3lol, cant you just hold it in your hand?20:19
racecar56my graphics card blocks it20:20
racecar56i cant put in a 2nd hd without breaking it20:20
fx3the IDE connector?20:20
racecar56anyhting20:20
racecar56the whole HD itself20:20
fx3hmmm20:21
fx3cant you get a long IDE lead and just shove it in somehow?20:21
racecar56its a scsi20:21
fx3aaaaaaaaaaaaah20:21
fx3very nice20:21
racecar56mabye i should just leave the hd out20:21
racecar56my pc is from june 200820:22
racecar56and i put a floppy drive into it :P20:22
fx3yea but you wont be able to resize the hd, unless you boot from live CD20:22
racecar56i am gonna take my original hd out20:22
racecar56nvm20:24
racecar56im just gonna 'leave it loose'20:24
racecar56wait....20:24
fx3at work we have about 4 harddrives 'loose' in the case lol20:24
racecar56how the heck can i make ubuntu use that other partition rather than its own20:25
racecar56lolz20:25
fx3boot from live CD, or boot from another installation20:25
racecar56right now im gonna format my current gparted cd  because its NOT current20:25
racecar56while that goes on ill download the testing gparted20:25
fx3if you have internet connection you can always apt-get it20:26
racecar56dur.... 0.3.x? not fun20:26
fx3sudo apt-get install gparted20:26
racecar56gosh 8.10's gparted was from before i even used it20:26
fx3i dont know, it seems to do the job fine for me20:27
racecar56kay but i like the newer ones20:27
* racecar56 downloads gparted 0.4.3-120:28
racecar56gparted live20:28
LHCon gparted all the text is really smal20:28
LHCyou cant read it lol so fuckin werid20:29
racecar56not for me20:29
fx3Nicador, try booting your install with noacpi or noapic or both20:30
fx3or, acpi=off is the command20:31
racecar56my gparted download is done20:34
racecar56but its not done blanking the disk yet20:34
racecar56ha ha right as i said that it finished20:34
racecar56ffaiilll20:34
robertjhey all, I've got Poweredge R200 running LTS, but I don't have any video out unless it is plugged in while booted, any ideas on that?20:35
racecar56i dunno but i know one thing....20:35
racecar56you are LUCKY to have video at ALL. i have none20:35
robertjracecar56: bwahaha, I'm having flashbacks to 199620:35
racecar56lolz20:36
robertjno video on an R200 or other device?20:36
racecar56i have a hp mediasmart ex47520:36
fx3robertj, sometimes machines wont enable the VGA output unless a monitor was plugged in during boot time20:41
robertjfx3: any chance if I take the long walk of shame to the closet I will find a bios option :)20:42
fx3robertj, probably not, but try, every girl is different20:42
robertjKVM is going to be here next week, but its not analog, wonder if that will fix it20:42
fx3yea with KVM it should boot fine too20:43
robertjand honestly, it probably just doesn't matter that there is no VGA20:43
robertjbut still20:43
racecar56i gots gparted 0.4.3 compiled and im burning gparted 0.4.3 to a cd too20:44
racecar56my gparted is done burning now im gonna resize the partition20:45
robertjthe way I figure it is that I want everything in the closet needlessly perfect because if I am in there, something has already gone badly wrong and I don't need anything else to stress about :)20:45
robertjwow, I'm impressed by the terseness of it's BIOS options20:47
robertjand does ANYONE want to report on keyboard errors at boot this decade?20:47
fx3yea that was annoying when i set up my server20:48
robertjespecially on a server, yeesh20:48
fx3unplugged it all and put it away20:48
fx3power on and squat20:48
robertjmine was off by default at least20:48
racecar56ok i hooked up my servers hard drive and im gonna turn on my pc20:49
racecar56im resizing my partiton now and then later its gonna make a boot fat1620:56
racecar56brb20:56
sorenScottK: Would you consider https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/331769, please?21:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 331769 in ubuntu "[FFe] New package: elastichosts-utils" [Undecided,New]21:01
* ScottK looks21:01
sorenI couldn't find a better rationale than "it would be nice", so I left that bit out.21:02
ScottKsoren: Cloud computing is a server team focus this cycle and this supports that.21:05
racecar56woot its done all of its stuff21:05
ScottKsoren: Scribble something like that in there and I'll approve it.21:05
sorenScottK: Will do. Gimme a sec.21:05
ScottKsoren: Now that I'm an archive admin, there's another catagory of stuff I'm willing to approve for New and that's if I New it myself so it's not a distraction (that being one of the prime rationales for new package freeze).21:06
ScottKThis one I think a manage21:07
sorenScottK: There. Rationale added. Thanks for your input :)21:07
ajmitchScottK: archive admin is a fairly recent thing for you?21:08
* soren looks at the ~motu-release member list21:08
sorenThree weeks or so, I believe?21:08
ajmitchuseful :)21:09
racecar56now what am i going to do to make ubuntu use my /dev/sda3 (/boot fat16) as its /boot folder instead of its own partition?21:09
ScottKajmitch: Yes.21:10
ScottKsoren: If you look at the motu-release delegates list you'll find I'm the Server Team delegate.21:11
ScottKI'm all the approving you need.21:11
sorenScottK: Oh, I just need one?21:11
racecar56brb21:11
ScottKGenerally it's two except the delegates can decide stuff in their area on their own.21:11
sorenScottK: Ah, lovely. So good to upload?21:12
ScottKIf that wasn't the case me being a 'delegate' wouldn't make any different.21:12
ScottKGimme a sec to mark in the bug.  I do wonder why you build-dep on DH7 and use CDBS?21:12
sorenI happen to like cdbs.21:13
sorenI'm perverse, apparantly.21:13
ScottKI'm fine with that, it's that you aren't using any dh 7 features, yet you depend on that version.21:15
ScottKsoren: Approved.21:15
sorendebhelper >= 7... I don't remember why I always tend to default to that.21:15
ajmitchprobably to make the lives of backporters painful21:15
racecar56back21:16
ScottKajmitch: Only for Dapper.  We have dh 7 in hardy-bacports.21:16
ScottKsoren: Not a big deal, just thought I'd mention it.21:16
ajmitchgood21:16
ScottKbackports.org did the same thing for etch-backports.21:16
sorenScottK: Right. I'll consider it going forward. I.e. I'll see if I can remember why I started doing it.21:17
racecar56how to i make my /dev/sda3 a /boot partition instead of / having a boot folder?21:17
sorenMove its contents into the new partition and mount it?21:18
sorenScottK: Thanks!21:18
racecar56isnt that not permanent?21:18
racecar56then it might look for boot to be in / and go boom that it dosent exist21:19
racecar56right?21:19
sorenYou need to tweak your bootloader accordingly, yes.21:20
racecar56ok how is a step-by-step way to do this?21:21
racecar56ok im at the prompts21:22
racecar56*prompt21:23
fx3_lol i just got a chlamydia testing kit through the post :D21:24
fx3_:S*******************21:24
fx3_im not happy about that, that was a wrong emoticon21:24
fx3_im confused and a little disturbed21:24
racecar56is there a step-by-step way to make ubuntu use /dev/sda3 as it's boot partition instead of /boot?21:26
fx3_you have to do it in grub21:27
racecar56ok...21:27
* racecar56 ctrl-alt-del's21:27
fx3_but the problem remains that your server needs a fat16 partition to boot from21:27
racecar56ok im at the 3 choice grub menu21:28
racecar56ok what do i do to make it use /dev/sda3 as /boot now... i am editing the first choice21:29
fx3_man, you need to learn to google21:31
fx3_do you have a booting line already on your screen?21:32
racecar56yes21:32
fx3_because if you change the root=/dev/sda3 to root=/boot then it will use that partition21:32
fx3_but be aware that /boot isnt really a partition, its a mounted boot partition21:33
fx3_you need to figure out where the actual drive slice is21:33
racecar56well /dev/sda3 i guess would be (hd0,2) in grub21:33
fx3_probably21:33
racecar56ok i pressed 'e' on the default boot entry now what21:34
aezellHi all, I'm having an issue with xvfb-run on Intrepid server. It never seems to kill the Xvfb server that it starts.21:35
racecar56ok well i gotta brb21:36
kansandoes cron ever use enviormental variables?  i have some set for the root user in .bashrc ... but i'm not thinking cron gets access to these.... true?21:38
sorenScottK: elastichosts-utils ready for your NEW processing pleasure.21:40
fx3_racecar56, you need to edit the boot line to have root= and the partition where the boot stuffs is21:41
didrocksjdstrand: around?21:42
jdstranddidrocks: hi!21:43
didrocksjdstrand: Hi :) How's you doing?21:43
jdstranddidrocks: great, you?21:44
didrocksjdstrand: fine too :)21:44
didrocksjdstrand: I know that FF has been in progress, but I did tonight a little trick on ufw21:44
didrocksjdstrand: adding bash completion to it :)21:44
didrocksjdstrand: are you interesting, can I propose a merged branch?21:45
jdstranddidrocks: nifty. how did you do it?21:45
didrocksjdstrand: I was wondering how to achieve it in my own project and I inspired myself on bzr :)21:46
jdstranddidrocks: how does it work with non-bash shells?21:46
didrocksjdstrand: it does not work atm, but I think we can find some workaround for them, using same ideas21:47
didrocksjdstrand: I have to put an eye on that, if you wish21:47
jdstranddidrocks: does it work with bash-completion (the package)?21:48
didrocksjdstrand: zsh & emacs should be easy21:48
racecar56back for a tiny bit21:48
didrockshum, let me check the usage of this package21:48
jdstrandtbh, I've never looked at that package too closely-- it always seemed rather magical :)21:48
racecar56like /dev/sda3/vmlinux.....?21:49
racecar56*vmlinuz21:49
didrocksjdstrand: ok, I search for the package and yes, it uses it :)21:49
racecar56do i change the kernel line?21:50
karl86hi guys i've just followed the instructions on help.ubuntu.com for postfix installation to the letter. But i'm getting the following error in my mail.log:  warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth-client failed: No such file or directory21:50
jdstranddidrocks: I'd be happy to take a look at it. I'm intrigued. Feel from to do a branch21:50
didrocksjdstrand: I have to create some files in /etc/bash_completion.d for instance, can I use a .install for that, like bzr ? (you didn't use it)21:51
fx3_racecar56, what does the line say now?21:52
fx3_sorry, ive got many things going on, trying to solve my own problem too =)21:52
racecar56i moved /boot to /dev/sda3 and now i have error 15 and i can't edit it21:53
racecar56now what?21:54
fx3_file not found, hmm21:54
fx3_wrong boot partition21:55
fx3_ahh i see now, hold on21:55
racecar56i know for a fact /dev/sda3 is my partition where i put /boot and it is my fat1621:55
racecar56i mounted /dev/sda3 to /mnt then cd / and then mv boot /mnt then i restarted21:56
jdstranddidrocks: sorry21:56
racecar56so how do i get back into ubuntu server21:57
fx3_hold on, let me figure this out21:57
didrocksjdstrand: no pb 5 minutes is nothing :)21:57
racecar56ill brb21:58
jdstranddidrocks: I'd prefer you just drop them in debian/ and use cp. I mean, you could use .install, but I would just use cp anyway :P21:58
fx3_so, your /boot is where, in grub's terms, (hd0,2) ?21:58
didrocksjdstrand: ok21:58
fx3_can you get into grub prompt?21:58
jdstranddidrocks: btw, we have not connected re ufw backport for hardy21:58
jdstranddidrocks: I made several changes to ufw so that it should run fine on hardy without needing a newer iptables21:59
jdstranddidrocks: but I haven't tested it extensively21:59
racecar56yes21:59
fx3_oh dear, hold on, you mounted /dev/sda3 on /mnt ???21:59
didrocksjdstrand: ok, I will try it in a VM and see how does it work21:59
jdstranddidrocks: I don't know if your still interested in that, but feel free to comment in the bug if you want to pick it up again21:59
racecar56yes21:59
racecar56i did so i could move /boot to it22:00
racecar56then i unmounted it22:00
didrocksjdstrand: for sure, give me a week or 2 and I will do that :)22:00
fx3_can you verify that you have /boot in your /dev/sda3?22:00
jdstranddidrocks: oh no rush at all, I just wanted to touch base with you22:00
fx3_racecar56, boot into grub prompt22:00
racecar56how?22:00
racecar56it gives my a error 1522:00
racecar56*me22:01
didrocksjdstrand: ok ;) FYI, I prefer to put the file in shell-completion/bash/<file> to be able to add zsh and emacs later for having an wiser hierarchy22:01
didrocksjdstrand: then, I cp in the debian/rules22:01
jdstranddidrocks: I have no opinion atm-- like I said, it is all rather magical for me :)22:02
jdstranddidrocks: so feel free to guide me22:02
didrocksjdstrand: you will see, it's very easy in reality :)22:02
didrocksno black magic there ^^22:02
fx3_racecar56, i mean grub menu, where you can type your commands22:02
racecar56i cant22:02
racecar56right when grub attempts to load it error 15's22:02
racecar56remember? i mounted /dev/sda3 and moved /boot to it and then restarted22:03
racecar56betcha i can fix it with a live cd22:03
racecar56maybe i should go on gparted then mount / to something and then mount /dev/sda3 to another something and then i move it from /dev/sda3 to my mounted / and then go to grub?22:05
racecar56restart as in go to grub22:05
didrocksjdstrand: it's ready. I just execute run_tests.sh to check that I haven't break anything :)22:07
karl86guys can anyone help me with a postfix installation?22:08
jdstranddidrocks: cool. where is the branch?22:09
fx3_you need to edit the grub.conf or something22:12
racecar56fx3 are you still there22:12
racecar56nvnm22:12
fx3_racecar56, yea sorry, someone finally is trying to help me =)22:14
racecar56ok22:15
didrocksjdstrand: ~didrocks/ufw/shell-completion (test finished and nothing broken \o/)22:15
ScottKsoren: Accepted.22:16
didrocksjdstrand: just tell me what you think about it. Again, zsh and emacs seems to be easily adressable too. Time to go to bed for me ^^22:16
jdstranddidrocks: I'll take a look at it22:17
racecar56where is grub.conf?22:18
fx3_in /etc22:19
racecar56bash: /etc/grub.conf: No such file or directory22:19
fx3_maybe in your /boot?22:20
jmarsdenracecar56: /boot/grub/grub.conf  # but /etc/grub.conf is usually a symlink to the file in /boot/grub/22:21
fx3_i dont have any handy ubuntu servers running at the moment sorry22:21
racecar56im running gparted live22:21
Deeps/boot/grub/menu.lst22:21
=== fx3_ is now known as fx3
Deepsis the "grub.conf or something"22:22
racecar56menu.lst does exist22:23
* racecar56 edits menu.lst22:23
racecar56ok so how do i make ubuntu mount /dev/sda3 to /boot automatically22:24
Deepsedit /etv/fstab22:24
Deeps/etc/fstab even22:24
racecar56ok i add a line: /dev/sda3     /boot?22:26
racecar56(my /dev/sda3 is a fat16)22:26
Deepshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab22:27
racecar56ok ill try my wacky configuration22:27
racecar56grub error 1522:28
racecar56ok you know what.. i feel like reinstalling ubuntu all over again22:30
* racecar56 gets install disk22:30
racecar56scanning cdrom22:33
racecar56clock setup22:34
racecar56w00t partitioning time22:34
fx3just reinstall the brug22:34
fx3grub22:34
fx3you dont need to reinstal everything22:34
racecar56orly?22:35
racecar56sorry its too late i made a partition table already :(22:36
fx3if you havent applied it it shouldnt have made any changes22:38
racecar56all i did was 'click' on the device name22:39
racecar56well... it is alot easier like this so i guess ill reinstall it22:40
racecar56it wont let me use fat16 OR 32 as /boot22:41
* racecar56 ctrl-alt-del's22:42
racecar56it did not make a new partition table :D22:42
racecar56but now what the heck am i going to do...22:42
fx3ok, go back to install and set up grub on the MBR of the whole disk22:44
racecar56sadly... 'racecar56 ctrl-alt-del's' that means i went off of installer22:44
racecar56and my sever must boot off of a fat16 partition it cant do others22:45
fx3isnt the HD still in your PC?22:45
racecar56yes22:45
fx3look, best way is to boot from a linux installation on your normal PC with your server harddrive as your *second* HD22:45
racecar56but i dont have more than 2 scsi wires22:46
racecar56only 2 plugs22:46
* racecar56 turns off comp and looks around for more plugs22:46
racecar56i couldnt find another power wire but i found a data22:49
mathiazbdmurray: hi - do you have ressource to start writing greasemonkey scripts?23:17
fx3racecar56, you still there?23:19
racecar56yes23:21
racecar56thets what i wanted to say23:21
bdmurraymathiaz: nothing specific diveintogreasemonkey is useful23:22
bdmurraymathiaz: what are you thinking about?23:23
mathiazbdmurray: I want to be able to hide unrelevant comments in a LP bug thread23:23
mathiazbdmurray: and then store somewhere which comments are hidden for each bug (so that the comments can be hidden again when a page is reloaded)23:24
mathiazbdmurray: and then make stats about users that have the least usefull comments23:24
mathiazbdmurray: and auto-hide them automatically23:25
mathiazbdmurray: and then share all of this between developers23:25
mathiazbdmurray: basically - implementing a comment rating system in LP :)23:26
racecar56hey fx3 are you there?23:29
fx3yea hi23:30
fx3sorry, went to the loo23:30
racecar56ok i went and browsed my OLD stuff and found a really old IDE drive... i will install linux onto it and use gparted off of there and fix my server's HDD up23:31
racecar56i put in the IDE drive23:31
racecar56sadly i dont have a SCSI power cord so i have to do stuff like this23:32
racecar56(by the way the hard drive is from an old compaq presario sr1010z)23:32
racecar56i dont know if it wrks but ill find out...23:33
racecar56omg gparted found it23:35
mathiazbdmurray: where is the ubuntu-gm-scripts bzr branch located now?23:35
bdmurraymathiaz: its launchpad-gm-scripts23:35
bdmurrayuseful for other projects too I'd think23:36
bdmurrayat least some of them23:36
mathiazbdmurray: great - thanks23:36
racecar56hey fx3 are you there?23:59
fx3yea, trying to set up named properlly23:59
racecar56k23:59

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