[00:00] <ivoks> /usr/local/share?
[00:00] <ivoks> you have custom perl?
[00:00] <krunk-|work> npe
[00:00] <krunk-|work> nope
[00:01] <ivoks> ls -dl /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/Errno.pm
[00:01] <ivoks> if it's in /usr/local/, it's custom, not from ubuntu
[00:01] <krunk-|work> hm
[00:01] <krunk-|work> maybe from backuppc, is there a way to check what package a file belongs to?
[00:01] <ivoks> no package stores anything in /usr/local
[00:02] <ivoks> that's for hand made, compiled binaries
[00:02] <ivoks> dpkg -S /path/to/the/file
[00:03] <ivoks> ok, the hell has frozen
[00:04] <krunk-|work> hm, so it says not found
[00:04] <krunk-|work> so I guess I could safely move the files in tehre, they're not in my path
[00:06] <krunk-|work> ok, the dist-upgrade is definitely installing files into /usr/local
[00:07] <ivoks> dist-upgrade installs packages
[00:08] <ivoks> if you are using only ubuntu repositories, it would be a bug if anything ends up in /usr/local
[00:08] <krunk-|work> but removing the /usr/local did allow the dist-upgrade to complete
[00:09] <krunk-|work> let's hope the reboot works o.O
[00:09] <krunk-|work> I'll dance a jig if it does heeh
[00:12] <maxb> krunk-|work: The *only* things that end up in /usr/local as a result of Ubuntu packages should be empty directories for local sysadmins to add things to to integrate with installed systems (and the occasional index/control file when the relevant thing requires such a file in any integration point directory)
[00:17] <ivoks> take care...
[00:19] <krunk-|work> well, the kernel came up. wonder how long it'll take to fsck this 3TB volume
[01:16] <krunk-|work> I think evm may be futzing with my hardware raid/fstab setup
[01:16] <krunk-|work> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583958
[01:16] <krunk-|work> happened from feisty => gutsy upgrade
[01:19] <FrankT-Qc> Hello, anybody here ?
[01:26] <FrankT-Qc> Allo ? Hello ?
[01:33] <mathiaz> !ask | FrankT-Qc
[01:33] <FrankT-Qc> Hi ! There's been an important security update in vsftpd and I was wondering to whom should I raise a flag so that it makes it to the repos as fast as possible ??? Any Idea ?
[01:35] <mathiaz> FrankT-Qc: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[01:35] <mathiaz> FrankT-Qc: ^^ has guideline about reporting security issues
[01:36] <FrankT-Qc> mathiaz : Would you suggest I fill a bug report even if that's already fixed in the most recent version of the software ?
[01:38] <mathiaz> FrankT-Qc: is it fixed in a version that is in the archive?
[01:38] <FrankT-Qc> not in the archive...
[01:38] <mathiaz> FrankT-Qc: you can always file a bug report
[01:38] <FrankT-Qc> alright, i'll try this
[01:38] <mathiaz> FrankT-Qc: bug report are for packages in the archive
[01:40] <kees> FrankT-Qc: also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSecurity
[01:41] <FrankT-Qc> mathias : Just to make this clear : vsftpd 2.0.7 (in the archive) had an issue and vsftpd 2.1.0 (not yet in the archive) doesn't anymore... What I'm curious about is weither this should be signaled so that 2.1.0 makes it to the archive as fast as possible... still suggest a bug report ?
[01:45] <mathiaz> FrankT-Qc: the security is tracking bug report marked as security vulnerabilities. They will take appropriate actions.
[01:45] <mathiaz> FrankT-Qc: the security *team*
[01:46] <FrankT-Qc> thanks !
[01:49] <krunk-|work> is there a way to get a status bar when fsck'ing a file system?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> fsck usually prints out [ [01:53] <krunk-|work> man fsck :P
[01:53] <krunk-|work> krunk-|work: rtfm n00b!
[01:53] <krunk-|work> heh
[01:53] <krunk-|work> fsck -C
[01:53] <krunk-|work> now I wonder how to get it to do that during init
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> admitedly i'm not running u-server, but it does that on all my boxens :/
[01:54] <kansan> backups dont seem to be working?
[01:54] <kansan> i'm sorry ;  i mean ;  cron seems not to be running
[02:18] <Delvien> Trying to setup a webserver, have SQL/PHP/Apache2 up and running ( i think) but having some issues, and i think they are SQL related. I followed some guides online and when it asks me to set a password i get errors.  I have no idea what to do now
[02:18] <Delvien> Is there a good guide online?
[02:19] <thewrath> when you installed server did you seelct lamp?
[02:19] <Delvien> Yep
[02:19] <Delvien> sudo tasksel also reflects this
[02:20] <vorian> Delvien: http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/mysql-set-change-reset-root-password/
[02:21] <vorian> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[02:23] <Delvien> vorian that set the info
[02:23] <vorian> rock on
[02:23] <Delvien> vorian still not loading the page though.. so maybe its not an SQL problem
[02:24] <vorian> where is your page located, and is it writeable?
[02:24] <Delvien> /home/user/www
[02:24] <Delvien> Its writable
[02:25] <Delvien> Well, wordpress just said it wasnt.. grr
[02:25] <thewrath> lol
[02:25] <thewrath> make sure
[02:25] <vorian> chmod 777 -R ~/www/wordpress-name
[02:27] <Delvien> a bit farther now
[02:27] <Delvien> I have all the wordpress filed in the root of www since that is the only site for now
[02:28] <Delvien> files*
[02:28] <vorian> i see
[02:28] <vorian> so is it working for ya?
[02:28] <Delvien> eh, its "running the install" but not doing anything
[02:28] <Delvien> so i dont think it is
[02:29] <vorian> you can use the example config, and skip the install
[02:30] <chmac> I'm trying `sudo ls /var/lib/php5/` and the command seems to be running indefinitely...
[02:31] <chmac> Any advice?
[02:31] <Delvien> vorian did that, loaded a GUI less page
[02:31] <Delvien> vorian that i click log in and it does nothing
[02:32] <Delvien> What's funny is that this was working 15 mins ago, I changed blog URL and some other URL and bam, doesnt load now
[02:32] <vorian> ah
[02:33] <vorian> Delvien: install phpmyadmin
[02:33] <vorian> you will have to change your database
[02:34] <vorian> once installed, just type www.yourkewlsite.net/phpmyadmin
[02:36] <Delvien> vorian ah, some database info was screwed up
[02:36] <vorian> yes, wordpress stores your site url in the database
[02:37] <vorian> if it doesn't match your actual url, you have to manualy fix it
[02:38] <Delvien> vorian http://reidthegeek.com/ test it out for ma
[02:39] <vorian> Delvien: works for me!
[02:40] <Delvien> it keeps loading from my dns name or making reference to it
[02:42] <Delvien> it's strange, for the life of me, it should just be loading the URL, but instead it references loading the dns name
[02:42] <vorian> it loads fine for me
[02:43] <Delvien> It does for me too, but I dont want it loading the dns name
[02:43] <vorian> ah
[02:46] <Delvien> vorian i love WP... seriousl
[02:46] <Delvien> seriously
[02:47] <vorian> Delvien: it is quite nice :)
[02:47] <Delvien> vorian even got the Iphone plugin installed for my android phone, and all u iphoners
[02:48] <vorian> pfft
[02:48] <Delvien> vorian what?
[02:48] <vorian> my phone is a bsd phone :P
[02:49] <vorian> (it just happens to be made by apple)
[02:49] <Delvien> You can admit you have an Iphone.
[02:50] <vorian> ✓
[02:52] <evarlast> osx is not bsd. sorry :(
[02:53] <Delvien> lol
[03:13] <genii> osx is basically AppleUnix
[03:44] <thewrath> is there wobi for 9.04
[03:49] <w33d5> does anyone know of a way on UBUNTU SERVER (NO Window Manager) to Mount a DVD and RUN a SCRIPT (DVD Backup)
[03:49] <w33d5> automatically that is
[04:34] <krunk-> I've just upgraded to ubuntu 7.10 from ubuntu 7.04. I'd like to upgrade to the LTS edition
[04:35] <krunk-> is that jus t a matter or changing sources?
[04:40] <genii> krunk-: No
[04:40] <genii> krunk-: See http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[05:05] <racecar-56> i need to make a user to su to root and delete a user that was formerly the only one and then use root to make it again with no password, what to do?
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> boot single user
[05:06] <racecar-56> how?
[05:06] <racecar-56> i have the 'login:' prompt
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> ctrl+alt+del the box so it reboots, then when grub counts down press escape and select 'single user'
[05:07] <racecar-56> ok
[05:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres probably a detailed guide on the wiki/help site
[05:09] <racecar-56> ok im on the grub menu i have 'Ubuntu 8.10 blah blah blah blah blah 2.6.27-7-server' and a recovery mode, is recovery mode right? (i also have a memtest86+ but i obviously know that is NOT gonna help)\
[05:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeah, recovery mode
[05:10] <racecar-56> *chooses recovery mode and lol's at BIG VERBOSITY* root shell?
[05:12] <racecar-56> what do i pick?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure what you get with ubuntu recovery shell - a root terminal , if thats an option
[05:16] <racecar-56> yea there is
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> and please dont pm me
[05:16] <racecar-56> ok
[05:16] <racecar-56> ok im on root prompt
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> now remove/add the user as you normally would
[05:18] <racecar-56> ok
[05:18] <racecar-56> ok it fussing that i didnt give it a password
[05:18] <genii> You might want to add them to some group which has sudo rights
[05:19] <racecar-56> ok
[05:21] <genii> Weird. freenode keeps disconnecting me when it can't ping me for 30 secs
[05:21] <racecar-56> hmm
[05:22] <racecar-56> what id is root's group by default, 1000? 0?
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> um, wha?
[05:22] <genii> racecar-56: Use adm gid instead, root's is dangerous to give to a user
[05:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> isnt 'admin' sudoers group?
[05:23] <genii> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes
[05:23] <genii> racecar-56: Please don't PM me
[05:24] <racecar-56> ok so how do i be able to make a user that auto-logs on
[05:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> why would you want that?
[05:28] <racecar-56> so i wont have to unplug my keyboard and plug it into my server and 'blindly' type in the username and pass
[05:28] <racecar-56> my server is a hp mediasmart ex475
[05:29] <ScottK> racecar-56: You can't ssh into the server?
[05:29] <racecar-56> scottk: well, im 'setting up' my sever on a real pc first
[05:30] <racecar-56> scottk: because i dont have a way to see anything the server displays, the server has no video card
[05:30] <ScottK> OK, do yourself a favor and learn to ssh into the box.  That'll work better.
[05:30] <racecar-56> it isnt on the internet
[05:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its not on a network, how is it a server?
[05:31] <racecar-56> ok look, i am following these crazy instructions...
[05:31] <racecar-56> i have to take my server's HDD out and put it into a real pc and install ubuntu like nothing
[05:31] <racecar-56> then set up remote access... however i can't do remote access unless i'm logged into sever right?
[05:32] <racecar-56> (remote access = ssh)
[05:32] <ScottK> If you install the ssh server you should be able to just log in via ssh.
[05:32] <racecar-56> i did install ssh server
[05:33] <racecar-56> so all i gotta do is put my server's hd back into sever and turn on the server?
[05:33] <racecar-56> (obviously it's on the internet and does have cable)
[05:34] <ScottK> Assuming networking starts correctly (generally it will).
[05:35] <racecar-56> does ubuntu's setup only execute drivers that it detects matching devices for? or will it load my server's matching hardware drivers (which is A LOT different)?
[05:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> although you may have issues with the ethernet devices changing (udevs fault)
[05:36] <racecar-56> oh noes
[05:36] <racecar-56> will it work on internet?
[05:36] <racecar-56> at all?
[05:37] <racecar-56> by the way the re-creation of my racecar56 user actually made me not a sudoer... DARN, no more root access!
[05:38] <racecar-56> good gracious i fell like re-installing it
[05:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> did you add yourself to the correct group (as genii suggested)
[05:38] <racecar-56> i dont know the gid so no
[05:39] <genii> 114
 You might want to add them to some group which has sudo rights
 isnt 'admin' sudoers group?
[05:41] <racecar-56> i dont know how to add a user to a group
[05:41] <racecar-56> good gracious i fell like re-installing ubuntu server
[05:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> use gpasswd
[05:42]  * genii ponders usermod -G  admin username -a
[05:42] <genii> I can never recall were the -a goes
[05:43] <genii> Might be right after the -G
[05:43] <racecar-56> my username is racecar56, what do i do?
[05:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> genii, i prefer gpasswd -a user group (less chance of buggering things up afaik)
[05:44] <genii> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes
[05:45] <racecar-56> ok
[05:45] <racecar-56> that fixed it
[05:46] <genii> Kamping_Kaiser: I apologise for my BSD-isms (adm, usermod)
[05:46] <racecar-56> lolz
[05:46] <racecar-56> i do freebsd on a virtual machine sometimes
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> genii, hah. I'll be your friend anyway :p
[05:47] <racecar-56> so all i have to do is put my server's HDD (thats in the pc) back to the server and turn it on and that's all?
[05:47]  * genii makes another pot of coffee
[05:49] <racecar-56> sorry glitched out
[05:49] <racecar-56> so all i have to do is put my server's HDD (thats in the pc) back to the server and turn it on and that's all?
[05:58] <racecar-56> ok i went and put my server's hd in server and i ping'd the server's IP but its offline
[06:00] <racecar-56> anyone here?
[06:02] <genii> racecar-56: How is it's IP decided?
[06:03] <racecar-56> i install'd ubuntu server on my 'server' (my pc with server's HDD) and i told its ip to be 192.168.1.80
[06:04] <racecar-56> and i ping'd it when my server was on and it has 100% packet loss so that means it isnt online...
[06:04] <racecar-56> the little Ethernet light is flashing
[06:06] <genii> racecar-56: You told a router to assign 192.168.1.80 to the box which has a specific mac address corresponding to the servers ethernet adapter, or you edited /etc/network/interfaces, or what?
[06:07] <racecar-56> when i installed ubuntu, it failed to use DHCP (it wasnt plugged in anyway) so i told it to use 192.168.1.80 as the ip (static)
[06:09] <genii> racecar-56: Did you also tell it to use whatever the ip of the router or so is as it's default gateway?
[06:09] <racecar-56> yes
[06:09] <racecar-56> my router is 192.168.1.1 and i told its gateway to be that
[06:10] <racecar-56> (for specs its a linksys wrt54gs)
[06:10] <genii> OK, good. Maybe it's just not responding to ping. Try ssh in
[06:11] <racecar-56> literally run 'ssh in'?
[06:11] <racecar-56> or the servers ip
[06:13] <genii> racecar-56: eg:   ssh -l some-name-that-exists-on-server 192.168.1.80
[06:13] <racecar-56> some-name-that-exists-on-server is hostname?
[06:14] <racecar-56> hostname of server is racecar56-hpsvr
[06:14] <genii> Um no
[06:14] <racecar-56> ok
[06:14] <genii> If I have a username on there like: George then:        ssh -l George 192.168.1.80
[06:15] <racecar-56> ohhhh username... right?
[06:15] <racecar-56> like on login?
[06:15] <genii> Yes
[06:15] <racecar-56> ok so i will do 'ssh -l racecar56 192.168.1.80'
[06:15] <racecar-56> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.80 port 22: No route to host
[06:16] <genii> racecar-56: BTW the hyphen in your hostname might be causing a problem
[06:16] <racecar-56> ok
[06:16] <racecar-56> can i fix that?
[06:16] <genii> racecar-56: Yes but in same manner you just fixed the other username issue
[06:17] <racecar-56> ok
[06:17] <racecar-56> i guess ill get its HDD out then... and put it in my pc
[06:18] <genii> racecar-56: If you can help me a bit... put my nick in anything you wish me to see... I'm in ~14 channels and I'll see it whichever one I'm in at the moment
[06:18] <racecar-56> k
[06:19] <kees> krunk-: you can  kill -USR1 $(pidof fsck)   to get it to start showing the progress bar if you forgot to run it with -C
[06:20] <kees> (assuming you're doing a ext2/3/4 fsck)
[06:22] <racecar-56> genii i have the login prompt now, what do i do?
[06:23] <genii> racecar-56: I will be /away in about 10-15 minutes (It's about 1:20AM here and my irc client is here whenther I am or not, it just marks me /away when i leave). So if I'm not responding remember I'll read everything next time I'm awake.
[06:23] <genii> racecar-56: Change the hostname
[06:23] <racecar-56> ok
[06:24] <genii> racecar-56: EG:  hostname racecar56hpsvr               or such
[06:24] <genii> racecar-56: Avoid characters you would not see in a real domain hostname
[06:27] <racecar-56> genii i changed it
[06:28] <genii> racecar-56: Good. While there maybe do:  tail /var/log/messages                    and see if anything remarkable that might be causing the prob if not the bad hostname
[06:29] <racecar-56> genii sudo is fussing 'unable to resolve host racecar56hpsvr'
[06:30] <racecar-56> genii if i sudo a command it will say that
[06:31] <genii> racecar-56: hats OK. The ethernet adapter in there right now is seen as eth1 and it's messing up gateway etc etc. Although you may anyhow want to add it's own ip and name to the resolv.conf or hosts file
[06:33] <genii> racecar-56: Also the router IP to resolv.conf as a nameserver
[06:34] <racecar-56> genii it still says that
[06:35] <racecar-56> genii im going to move the computer to my desk so ill have internet
[06:36] <genii> racecar-56: Yup, networking has not been restarted, etc. But being in a different box makes this problemmatic in other ways anyhow. You should be able to just put it in it's original case and hook it up now, etc
[06:38] <p_quarles> vorian: it's true; OS X != BSD
[06:39] <p_quarles> on the other hand, my phone does actually run a Linux kernel /smug
[06:40] <racecar-56> genii i tried powering up server with its HDD and it still dosen't ssh
[06:41] <genii> racecar-56: When you installed to that drive, was it in the box you keep shifting it to, or in the server box ?
[06:41] <racecar-56> genii the HDD came with the server if thats what ur asking
[06:42] <genii> racecar-56: It wasn't.
[06:42] <genii> racecar-56: EG: is the box HDD is in now... was ubuntu installed while HDD in there?
[06:43] <genii> ("server")
[06:44] <racecar-56> genii server, its in the server and server is on
[06:46] <genii> racecar-56: OK. Because whatever ethernet adapter was in box when you installed has resrved spot of eth0. So this can mess networking up if you install on one box, shift to different box (or even just swap ethernet adapter)
[06:48] <racecar-56> genii ok so move it to my pc again?
[06:52] <genii> racecar-56: It's 1:48AM here and work for me starts in 6 hours so I'm not gonna be around much longer. The main idea is: double check network IP/gateway/hostname/default route is all correct. Make sure static IP stuff for eth0 for exqample is set properly in /etc/network/interfaces. Make sure it knows how to resolv it's own name to it's own IP. MAke sure ssh-srver is installed and starting during boot. etc
[06:55] <genii> racecar-56: When this box is booted up, does it have internet access?
[06:56] <racecar-56> no
[06:57] <racecar-56> genii im sorry but i never finished the moving projects
[06:58]  * genii ponders "moving projects"
[06:59] <racecar-56> *project
[07:02] <racecar-56> genii i got it moved
[07:03] <genii> racecar-56: You physically moved the server someplace...? You moved the HDD between boxes again..?
[07:04] <racecar-56> genii i moved the pc back to my desk.. it has internet cable plugged in now
[07:05] <genii> The fastest way currently would just be to temporaily attach a keyboard and monitor to whatever the server box is while the hdd is in it, figure out the prob and solve it, then remove keyboard and monitor, complete whatever else from ssh in from other box
[07:05] <racecar-56> the server dosent have a vid card
[07:05] <genii> racecar-56: So then how did you initially install ubuntu on the hdd?
[07:06] <racecar-56> i put my sever's HDD in my pc and installed ubuntu
[07:06]  * genii head-desks
[07:06] <genii> I'm pretty sure I asked this Q of you and you indicated to me it was the other way around
[07:06] <racecar-56> orly?
[07:07] <genii> Yes
[07:07] <racecar-56> hmm
[07:08] <racecar-56> seems like i dont have internet access on the pc
[07:08] <racecar-56> with my servers HDD
[07:08] <genii> Anyhow. When it is in the server, the ethernet adapter it uses will be eth1 and not eth0. So you have to make entries inthe /etc/network/interfaces file for a static config with IP of 192.168.1.80 gateway/defaultrouter of 192.168.1.1 and so on.
[07:10] <genii> racecar-56: Does:  ifconfig      show anything other than the interface "lo"  ?
[07:10] <racecar-56> yes
[07:10] <racecar-56> it shows eth0 and l0
[07:10] <racecar-56> *lo
[07:10] <genii> eth0, yes?
[07:10] <racecar-56> yes
[07:10] <racecar-56> no eth1
[07:11] <genii> Yes, I thought I explained this in painful detail why eth0 vs eth1   when changing computers/ethernet adapters already
[07:11] <racecar-56> i wonder why it dosent show eth1
[07:11] <racecar-56> i using pc so it no show?
[07:11] <genii> eth1 is in server and not in pc
[07:12] <racecar-56> yes ok
[07:12]  * genii watches the light bulb begin to shine
[07:13] <genii> racecar-56: Sorry, I'm frustrated, don't mean to take it out on you. Just that we could have been past this point ages ago if you answered an earlier Q properly
[07:13] <racecar-56> ok
[07:14] <genii> racecar-56: So you need to make an entry in /etc/network/interfaces   exactly like the one there which is for eth0 but for eth1 instead. Maybe even use a different IP so the two don't conflict.
[07:14] <racecar-56> ok
[07:15]  * racecar-56 headdesks because i cant copy the text
[07:16] <racecar-56> ok im done
[07:16] <genii> racecar-56: If you:  nano /etc/network/interfaces                    then just use ctrl-k to copy the eth0 lines and ctrl-u to paste them again. Then go up manually and edit 0 to 1.    ctrl-x to exit, Y for "Yes" to save. Enter key to confirm same name
[07:17] <SkyNetMaster> hi, Im just installed ubuntu-server on brand new mashine. which runs on hardware raid 1. but I get dropt into busybox with message: gave up waiting for root device. what is problem?
[07:17] <racecar-56> im done with network interfaces
[07:18] <genii> racecar-56: Good :)   if you use: sudo ls                              does it currently complain about not finding itself?
[07:18] <racecar-56> unable to resolve host racecar56hpsvr
[07:20] <genii> racecar-56: OK. Is there a line in /etc/hosts which reads like:              192.168.1.80 racecar56hpsvr
[07:20] <genii> Where 192.168.1.80 is eth1 IP
[07:20] <racecar-56> ahhh it has a - like my old hostname
[07:20] <racecar-56> *fixes*
[07:20] <genii> Good.
[07:20] <racecar-56> WOOT IT FIXED
[07:21] <genii> racecar-56: Try the sudo ls again
[07:21] <racecar-56> sudo is working now
[07:21] <genii> racecar-56: Good.
[07:21] <genii> racecar-56: I think should be ok to swap back now
[07:22] <racecar-56> it does not have internet access (sudo apt-get update dosent work)
[07:22] <racecar-56> by the way it says i should have had a seprate boot partition
[07:22] <racecar-56> im following this: http://samuel.thollander.net/projects/linux-on-hp-ex470/
[07:23] <genii> racecar-56: There are other things here which can also be an issue. the server may not put same geometry on the hdd as the pc does for instance. But hard to check that without some useful output device like a ct
[07:23] <genii> *crt
[07:24] <genii> racecar-56: Was there defaultroute or gateway so entry in the /etc/network/interfaces  for your eth0 and eth1 ?
[07:25] <racecar-56> maybe i should do a reinstall because all of these problems just because of no internet
[07:25] <racecar-56> yes
[07:25] <racecar-56> there was a lo and eth0 in there but i had to make a eth1 entry
[07:26] <racecar-56> *restarts with ctrl+alt+del*
[07:26] <genii> racecar-56: So in there you have like 5 lines similar to:
[07:26] <genii> bah
[07:26] <racecar-56> when i restarted it still has no internet
[07:27] <racecar-56> think i should boot the server again?
[07:27] <genii> racecar-56: Lines like: auto eth1     then: iface eth1 inet static     then: address 192.168.1.80     then: netmask 255.255.255.0     then: gateway 192.168.1.1
[07:28] <racecar-56> yes
[07:28] <genii> Good.
[07:28] <racecar-56> wait a sec......
[07:28] <genii> racecar-56: check ssh-server is in
[07:28] <racecar-56> ok
[07:28] <racecar-56> OMG
[07:29] <racecar-56> SSH ACCESS
[07:29] <racecar-56> IT WORKS WHEN ITS ON PC O_O
[07:29] <racecar-56> ok, i tried ssh 192.168.1.81 (my eth0's address) and it works
[07:30] <genii> Good.
[07:30] <racecar-56> im gonna server boot now
[07:30] <genii> racecar-56: I'd say we know the essential things are there now
[07:30] <racecar-56> *turns off pc*
[07:30]  * genii sips his decaf
[07:31] <genii> racecar-56: I shoulda been in bed a long time ago now but I'll hang in to see the results so far
[07:31] <racecar-56> ok
[07:32] <SkyNetMaster> no suggestions on /dev/mapper problem?
[07:33] <racecar-56> i dont know how to fix..
[07:34] <genii> SkyNetMaster: This some ICH10 chipset hardware raid?
[07:34] <SkyNetMaster> its is intel 5000 server motherboard
[07:35] <SkyNetMaster> I have too chech the specific chip
[07:35] <SkyNetMaster> I found on the net that I should try to boot with linux nodmraid
[07:35] <SkyNetMaster> but I hava no clue where to enter this commad
[07:36] <racecar-56> grub
[07:36] <racecar-56> edit your grub
[07:36] <genii> SkyNetMaster: At end of grub line which loads kernel
[07:36] <racecar-56> press escape when it comes up
[07:37] <SkyNetMaster> ok, so afther /boot/vm***** root=/dev/mapper/**
[07:37] <genii> SkyNetMaster: At any rate... if it is an ICH10 chipset.... you need ahci driver
[07:38] <genii> SkyNetMaster: Yes, at end of that line
[07:38] <genii> racecar-56: server booted yet?
[07:40] <racecar-56> no
[07:40] <racecar-56> putting my pc back together
[07:40] <genii> Ah
[07:40] <racecar-56> now im putting my servers hd into the case
[07:40] <racecar-56> and the case in the server
[07:40] <SkyNetMaster> genii : it is only intel chips on board, cant find any traice of info about ICH10 on board
[07:41] <genii> SkyNetMaster: OK. Gimme a sec I'll try to find the specs
[07:42] <SkyNetMaster> genii : the board http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/s5000vsa/howto.htm
[07:42] <SkyNetMaster> the stange thing is if I create LV then installing it works
[07:42] <genii> OK. AFK
[07:43] <SkyNetMaster> the linux nodmraid did do anything, I got droped back to BusyBox
[07:43] <racecar-56> booting sever
[07:43] <racecar-56> *server
[07:44] <genii> SkyNetMaster: Looks like it has it's own integrated "5000" chipset or so. Not sure what driver that might need.
[07:44] <genii> SkyNetMaster: Well, if you have /dev/mapper/whatever             then it has no viable root
[07:44] <racecar-56> hmm looks like im getting the same error on ssh
[07:45] <genii> racecar-56: Can you ping it's eth1 IP?
[07:46] <SkyNetMaster> genii could manual partitioning solve it?
[07:47] <SkyNetMaster> or it coud be enough to edig fstab?
[07:47] <genii> SkyNetMaster: Not sure :/
[07:47] <genii> SkyNetMaster: I don't know enough about your motherboard to recommend a course of action at this point that I'd feel good about
[07:48] <racecar-56> no it dosent ping right
[07:48] <racecar-56> and ssh still dont work
[07:49] <racecar-56> but im really tired and i wanna go to bed
[07:49] <racecar-56> see you tomorrow
[07:49] <genii> racecar-56: I'm starting to think the server sees the HD differently than the pc
[07:49] <racecar-56> ok
[07:49] <genii> eg: It doesn't get to boot stage because the way server sees it
[07:50] <SkyNetMaster> genii : grup question, I have edited line, but then I reboot the line look like old one, so it dind saved, why is so
[07:50] <genii> SkyNetMaster: When you edit when it is during boot, change is only that time
[07:51] <genii> SkyNetMaster: For permanent you have to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file from in linux for it to be permanent
[07:51] <genii> Bleh, tired. Keep repeating words etc
[07:52] <racecar-56> goodbye
[07:53]  * genii prepares a large urn of coffee for the channel before he goes /away
[07:54] <SkyNetMaster> genii booing to recovery kernel I get a lot of message, many of them is about: driver 'sr' need updating - please use bus_type methods. does this say anything usefull
[07:54] <twb> SkyNetMaster: I get that all the time, and I don't know why.  I imagine that sr is the SCSI subsytem, which is also used for SATA disks.
[07:55] <SkyNetMaster> hu, I wonder if installing this would solve the problem http://intel.driversdown.com/Intel-drivers/Intel-Server-Board-S5000VSA-SAS-Software-RAID-Driver_73927.shtml
[07:55] <SkyNetMaster> but how do I install driver without be able too boot?
[08:00] <twb> SkyNetMaster: IME installing third-party drivers rarely helps.
[08:00] <twb> Just, you know, as a general rule.
[08:01] <SkyNetMaster> ok, but the questions is how do I fix it? :) the problem
[08:01] <twb> SkyNetMaster: I haven't been paying attention; can you summarize the symptoms in one or two lines?
[08:03] <genii> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17068/eng/ESRT2_Linux_v.11.02.0626.2008_2.zip   is the driver Intel provides. Gonna look at it shortly
[08:03] <SkyNetMaster> I have a system on intel s5000VSA board, with RAID 1 enabled, installiations works fine, I do guided partiotioning using whole disk. then I reboot I get dropt to BusyBox with error "gave up waitning for root" and ALERT! that /dev/mapper/*** does not exist. ls /dev/mapper/show that device exist
[08:04] <SkyNetMaster> I have tryed to bood with linux nodmraid, but it didn't help
[08:05] <twb> SkyNetMaster: OK, two obvious questions: hardware raid, or md (software) raid?  Secondly, you installed using the server CD (not the live CD)?
[08:05] <SkyNetMaster> I use hardware raid, and installiation is server cd
[08:06] <twb> You're in busybox on that host right now?
[08:06] <SkyNetMaster> yes
[08:06] <twb> So /proc/mdstat should not exist.
[08:06] <genii> Bah. RHEL/SLES source code in there
[08:06] <twb> And "lvm pvdisplay" should work, and should print a PV.
[08:08] <SkyNetMaster> the /proc/mdstat does not exist, and so doesn't lvm command
[08:08] <twb> What is it looking for within /dev/mapper?
[08:10] <SkyNetMaster> control and 3 ddf1_**** one of the is which is claimed not to be found
[08:10] <twb> Hmm.  Is your host called "ddf1"?
[08:10] <twb> Rather: what hostname did you use during installation?
[08:10] <SkyNetMaster> no
[08:11] <SkyNetMaster> names are like 30 char long
[08:12] <SkyNetMaster> and the hos is like server_1
[08:14] <SkyNetMaster> twb this seems strange, that the device have another mane, not host name. and the name is so wierd
[08:15] <twb> SkyNetMaster: oh, it's trying to mount /dev/mapper/<long series of hexadecimal digits and hyphens/underscores> ?
[08:16] <twb> That will be the UUID
[08:17] <twb> SkyNetMaster: look in /proc/partitions.  Do you see entries like sda and sda1 in there?
[08:17] <SkyNetMaster> twb : the one is named ddf1_4c_53492020202020208086820000000036ce694200001450
[08:18] <twb> OK, that's not a filesystem UUID.
[08:18] <SkyNetMaster> twb actualy the other 2 have the same name but with aditional digit
[08:18] <twb> SkyNetMaster: I'm still interested in the contents of /proc/partitions
[08:19] <SkyNetMaster> twb : no, I see nothing with ls, ls -all gives -r--r--r-- 1 0 0 0 /proc/partitions
[08:21] <twb> SkyNetMaster: that file is always empty.
[08:21] <twb> SkyNetMaster: please *cat* it, and look at the output.
[08:23] <SkyNetMaster> twb : sorry :) I se sda and sdb
[08:23] <SkyNetMaster> twb the sizes and digits maches sda to sdb
[08:24] <twb> SkyNetMaster: OK, so according to the kernel, you have two disks and neither have any partitions (no sda[1234] or sdb[1234])
[08:24] <SkyNetMaster> I have sda[12] and the same with sdb
[08:25] <SkyNetMaster> twb: but from the kerrnel point of view I should only have one disk
[08:25] <twb> SkyNetMaster: right.
[08:25] <twb> SkyNetMaster: that means either you didn't enable hardware raid properly, or it is a shitty raid card that doesn't do its job properly/
[08:25] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FakeRAID
[08:27] <SkyNetMaster> twb raid card is build on the boar, intel server board
[08:28] <SkyNetMaster> twb what would be the soliution to this, I can go back to bios and chech the settings but I followed guid to enable raid, and bios reports online status OK
[08:29] <twb> I usually use md raid, because hardware raid is almost always really shit
[08:29] <kinnaz> depends for what
[08:29] <kinnaz> for mirroring software raid is shit
[08:29] <twb> If you paid less than AUD$300 for your RAID card, it's not gonna be a real raid card.
[08:31] <twb> kinnaz: >handwaving<.  It's still less hassle than trying to find a compatible hardware raid controller in two years when the motherboard unexpectedly dies or whatever.
[08:31] <twb> kinnaz: with md raid I know that I can slap the drives into just about any hardware and and linux distro and they'll be readable
[08:32] <kinnaz> im using raid as redudancy not backup
[08:32] <SkyNetMaster> so you sugest to disable the hardware raid?
[08:32] <twb> Of course, I tend not to work on enterprise-level gear, so expensive (i.e. quality) raid cards usually aren't available to me.
[08:32] <SkyNetMaster> the redundancy,in case of failure of one drive is my goal as well
[08:32] <kinnaz> SkyNetMaster, what benefit you get from being able to read from other box then ?
[08:32] <kinnaz> SkyNetMaster, server is still down
[08:33] <kinnaz> SkyNetMaster, clients are yelling at you
[08:33] <twb> kinnaz: having a backup drive is no good if the controller dies and you can't read the disks anymore, because newer controllers have a slightly different format.  The controller becomes a SPOF
[08:33] <kinnaz> twb, backup is in backup server over iscsi
[08:33] <twb> kinnaz: by "backup drive" I meant the second node in the RAID1 array
[08:34] <SkyNetMaster> kinnaz with hardware raid 1 if one disk goes done I have time to chenge it and auto-rebuild
[08:34] <kinnaz> twb, sure you are fcked when controller dies
[08:35] <twb> kinnaz: right, that's all I was saying
[08:35] <twb> kinnaz: with md raid, you don't need to care what kind of controller's you're using or buy spares.
[08:35] <kinnaz> but still there is much more bigger chance of driver dieing , and i have heard about some horrible stories about soft raid and rebuild of array
[08:35] <kinnaz> rebuilding of node...
[08:35] <twb> I haven't had any real problems with md RAID
[08:35] <kinnaz> drive*
[08:36] <kinnaz> i have only used md raid on oen box, and have seen one problem with it, when the other drive was syncing system was unable to boot correctly
[08:36] <kinnaz> so i needed to run in recovery mode to get the box working again
[08:36] <twb> hardware raid always causes me problems, having to install special (i.e. buggy) closed-source x86 binaries to manipulate the array without rebooting into BIOS and similar shit.
[08:37] <SkyNetMaster> hum, how then I activate sotware raid during install?
[08:37] <jussi01> Can we lay off on the swear words please?
[08:37] <kinnaz> the vocabulary of sysadmin
[08:37] <kinnaz> what can we do
[08:39] <twb> SkyNetMaster: you need to use the manual partitioner instead of choosing "guided"
[08:41] <kraut> moin
[08:42] <SkyNetMaster> twb ok, question, I have left hw raid on for one more try. now then I get question activate serial ATA RAID device; should I maybe say no?
[08:42] <SkyNetMaster> twb then maybe linux kernel will se only one disk?
[08:43] <kinnaz> SkyNetMaster,if you havent made array in raid bios, setup will see two drives
[08:44] <SkyNetMaster> I have mayde it
[08:44] <kinnaz> i would suggest to destroy it then
[08:44] <SkyNetMaster> but the both drives where present in /proc/partitions
[08:44] <twb> kinnaz: I have seen some very stupid hardware raids which need a tainted kernel module before the kernel will see the array as a single drive :-/
[08:45] <kinnaz> twb, thats quite common knowldege that random/cheap hw raids are worse then softraid
[08:45] <SkyNetMaster> oh, so remove hw raid ?
[08:45] <kinnaz> twb, aswell intergrate raid adapters
[08:45] <kinnaz> integrated
[08:45] <SkyNetMaster> will auto-rebuild still work?
[08:46] <twb> kinnaz: IIRC this wasn't fakeraid
[08:47] <kinnaz> what vendor ?
[08:47] <twb> I don't remember that, unfortunately.
[08:47] <twb> not 3ware
[08:47] <SkyNetMaster> intel S5000VSA
[08:47] <kinnaz> thou my exp with hw traid is quite limited, 3ware and LSI logic only
[08:47] <kinnaz> raid
[08:48] <twb> My biggest problems with hw raid boil down to "it wasn't 3ware, you cheapskate customer!" :-)
[08:51] <SkyNetMaster> well, need to visit litle room
[08:54] <SkyNetMaster> twb when I enter manual partiotioning I se this "one raid disk"
[08:55] <SkyNetMaster> with really crazy long name
[08:58] <tgbryano_> im using hardy server edition and have connected to it remotely using vnc however I can not change anything that requires authorisation i.e. changing the time, the unlock button is always grey - help!!
[08:59] <SkyNetMaster> does software raid supports hot swap?
[09:00] <twb> SkyNetMaster: I *think* so, but I've never tried it.
[09:01] <twb> SATA supposedly is always hot-swappable too, I heard.
[09:01] <SkyNetMaster> well, I tryed the manual partitioning of hw raid, and se if it works.
[09:01] <twb> tgbryano_: why do you expect to have administrative rights on that machine?
[09:02] <tgbryano_> because I am connected to it as root, its a headless server
[09:02] <tgbryano_> i am trying to convince my company to go for ubuntu instead of RHEL but so far its just been a right pain getting stuff to work
[09:03] <tgbryano_> i have tried editing polkit when logged in via vnc but it still greys out the unlock box!
[09:04] <kinnaz> basicaly is it just filesystem
[09:04] <kinnaz> or software raid
[09:04] <kinnaz> in terms of hot swapping there is no difference
[09:04] <kinnaz> but im always too afraid to hotswap normal sata drives
[09:05] <kinnaz> only ones on some highend controllers then i know my drives wont die
[09:06] <twb> tgbryano_: so you're using selinux?
[09:06] <tgbryano_> we disable selinux in RHEL
[09:06] <tgbryano_> can policykit be disabled?
[09:06] <twb> tgbryano_: isn't polkit just selinux stuff?
[09:06] <twb> selinux is disabled by default on Debian and Ubuntu, unless that has changed recently.  However, it's *packages* are probably installed by default.
[09:06] <twb> *its
[09:07] <tgbryano_> im not familiar with selinux so cant say, i just need to be able to change stuff connected as a root vnc session
[09:08] <twb> tgbryano_: I just wondered why you wer emessing with polkit when selinux is normally off
[09:09] <tgbryano_> there appear to be multiple problems with hardy and vnc, loads of messages about the gnome-settings-daemon etc, im not impressed so far :(  and I love ubuntu!
[09:09] <tgbryano_> twb: polkit is enabled in hardy
[09:09] <twb> I dunno about VNC, I usually adminster machines via SSH (as the goddess intended!)
[09:10] <tgbryano_> me too but we have some users with privileged accounts who like using the gui
[09:10]  * twb digs up an 8.04 VM...
[09:10] <twb> tgbryano_: "privileged" as in they log in as themselves and use sudo only when necessary?
[09:10] <tgbryano_> yup
[09:11] <twb> tgbryano_: OK, so right now you're pretending to be one of those users and seeing if everything works?
[09:11] <tgbryano_> yup
[09:12] <twb> OK, run "sudo -l", does it say they're allowed to run things?
[09:12] <twb> Looks like polkit isn't installed by default for a *server* install.
[09:12] <tgbryano_> if i connect a monitor to the server and fire up gnome the unlock button is available and I can put in my password, over vnc it is always greyed out
[09:12] <twb> It's pulled in by hal and gnome
[09:12] <twb> ...and it's nothing to do with selinux, whoops
[09:13] <twb> tgbryano_: I'm interested in "sudo -l" output in a terminal emulator, over VNC.
[09:13] <twb> tgbryano_: I want to establish if the underlying authentication is busted, or if it's GNOME's fault.
[09:14] <tgbryano_> theres quite a few posts on the net about this issue
[09:14] <tgbryano_> at the moment im connected as root over vnc so should have unrestricted access to everything
[09:14] <twb> tgbryano_: OK, I guess you know more than me then :-)
[09:15] <tgbryano_> twb: probably not :)
[09:15] <twb> tgbryano_: by "over VNC" do you mean you're using the GNOME VNC server, or the older/plainer Xvncserver?
[09:16] <tgbryano_> vnc4server package, the gnome vnc relies on you having a constant gnome session running to reconnect to
[09:16] <twb> OK, cool.
[09:16] <twb> (I don't trust gnome)
[09:18] <SkyNetMaster> twb when I disable hw raid the ubuntu cant find dh
[09:22] <tgbryano_> so is there a fix/workaround ?
[09:28] <twb> SkyNetMaster: dunno, sorry.
[09:28] <twb> tgbryano_: dunno, sorry.
[09:28] <twb> :-P
[09:28] <tgbryano_> no probs thanks anyway
[09:29] <SkyNetMaster> twb I have disabled hw raid, ang activated software, but I get serial ATA RAID disk with the same wierd name as before, and guise it vill not work again
[10:02] <mdz> soren: what's still blocking eucalyptus getting built?  anything I can do to help unblock it?
[10:09] <soren> mdz: More buildd's :)
[10:10] <soren> mdz: The version I uploaded early last night wasn't built until early this morning, but it's steadily coming along.
[10:11] <mdz> soren: if you keep uploading a new version every few hours, it'll never get to the front of the queue ;-)
[10:12] <soren> Now you tell me.
[10:12] <soren> :)
[10:13]  * soren will brb
[10:16]  * soren 's back
[10:19]  * soren wonders what he did to deserve having GNOME play a sound when he click on things..
[10:19] <soren> *clicks
[10:51] <normanm> hi all. how can I add a /32 ip address to /etc/network/interfaces. I tried with netmask 255.255.255.255 but when I use ifup interface name I get : SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[10:51] <normanm> but the interface works ok.
[10:51] <normanm> its a virtual interfaces
[10:52] <normanm> eth0:2260
[10:53]  * soren wonderes what purpose it serves
[10:53] <normanm> soren: its just for nating a dhcprange
[10:54] <soren> ...but to a /32 subnet? That doesn't sound like what you really want to do
[10:55] <normanm> soren: Even if i use the "real netmask" (/27) I get the errror
[10:58] <soren> What have you put in your interfaces file?
[10:59] <normanm> soren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/123773
[10:59] <normanm> ok so it's known...
[11:00] <normanm> soren: so nevermind.. it works I will just ignore the message
[12:06] <giacomo__> hello admins
[12:06] <giacomo__> I've messed something up with the sendmail. I was trying to send email from a local apache+php server using phpmailer library+sendmail, but something is not working at service level and I can't trace the problem because every /var/log/mail* log is empty and none of the are being written. How can I quit this stuck point?
[12:17] <soren> giacomo__: Are you actually using sendmail or a different mta?
[12:19] <giacomo__> soren, thanks for your attention but I'd like to ask you to wait a second because the problem has changed a bit, I'm stepping further
[12:54] <J_P> hi all
[12:55] <J_P> I have a question about wget in my server: I need a timout on it..
[12:55] <J_P> I try wget http://127.0.0.1:8081 --timeout=2 but not works. I try for 2 seconds and try agaim. I not would like try agaim. I want try a time only. is possible? I try man wget but not find nothing about not-repeat..
[12:56] <soren> --tries=1 ?
[12:57] <soren> J_P: ^
[13:02] <J_P> soren: yes, now works ;-)
[13:03] <J_P> soren: tahnks
[13:13] <Scix> how can I tell the ssh client to like "autothrust" the remote mashines finerprint?
[13:19] <Scix> found it. StrictHostKeyChecking has to be set to "no" in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[13:23] <soren> Scix: That's a really bad plan, though.
[13:24] <Scix> yes, but it's on a local network on a management computer
[13:24] <SkyNetMaster> this is really sad, I have been fighting to install ubuntu server on hd raid, and failt for several days, but centos worked out of box :(
[13:24] <Scix> soren, it's so remote management of network clients is becoming more easy
[13:32] <cliebow> can anyone answer questions on openldap in intrepid?cant seem to get pam.d working perfectly..(required to change password immediately (password aged)
[13:56] <seventyeight> hello! what is the name for the apparmor kernel module?
[13:58] <seventyeight> can someone help me? i cant find anny module with a similar name
[14:01] <ScottK> seventyeight: What problem are you trying to solve?
[14:01] <ScottK> I'm reasonable certain that isn't the question you really need answered.
[14:14] <seventyeight> maybe....all problems are solved. i want to understand apparmor generally.
[14:16] <ScottK> There are some good wiki pages on wiki.ubuntu.com that talk about apparmor profiles and such.  That's probably the place to start.
[14:19] <seventyeight> i had read them all
[14:28] <cliebow> any decent docs you know of for intrepid openldap?
[15:00] <rtg> soren, dendrobates: I'm blabbing on your mailing list without being subscribed. How about moderating me?
[15:01] <soren> rtg: Doing so..
[15:01] <soren> rtg: Are you the one trying to sell a master's degree?
[15:01] <soren> Ah, there we go.
[15:02] <soren> Accepted.
[15:02] <rtg> yeah, I'm giving away the one I don't have :)
[15:02] <rtg> I was so close, but never quite found the time to finish it. wife, kids, etc, conspire to keep me working.
[15:24] <evarlast> i just don't want to plug in a keybaord and press a key to see what is on the screen.
[15:24] <evarlast> anyone know how to remotely un-blank a remote linux terminal - no xwindows.
[15:32] <soren> rtg: I'm in roughly the same boat myself.  :)
[15:33] <rtg> soren: only your credits are likely a bit more recent then mine.
[15:40] <heath|work> is it possible to create quotas on a per folder basis.  Example:  /folder/test    /folder/test2    both folders will be accessible by 1 user, but I want the 1 user to only have a max of 1gb per folder?
[15:43] <soren> rtg: Yeah, I don't have "Punchcards 101", for instance :)
[15:43] <rtg> soren: ooh, that hurts.
[15:48] <pantarhei> are there differences between the packages on 8.10 and 8.04LTS? or what are the reasons to choose 8.10 over 8.04LTS?
[15:49] <kinnaz> do i need some special iso to run ubuntu server in virtualbox ? its telling me i'm missing cpu feature pae
[15:49] <pantarhei> looking for a replacement for debian cause i think on debian it's harder keep the software current....
[15:49] <pantarhei> expecially caus it's a server for a RoR production site
[15:51] <soren> rtg: Sorry, couldn't help myself :)
[16:12] <evarlast> is there an ltsp-update-client ?
[16:12] <evarlast> to move an ltsp install between releases?
[16:35] <cliebow> evrlast:might ask ogra in #ltsp
[17:17] <Blinkiz> Hi there. Does it exist a calendar file of when your server meetings are? I want to have it in my thunderbird calendar
[18:34] <mathiaz> bdmurray: sbeattie: I've written up a wiki page about debugging samba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSamba
[18:34]  * bdmurray claps
[18:34] <mathiaz> bdmurray: sbeattie: what do you thinkg about it?
[18:34] <mathiaz> how should the stock reply be integrated in the Bug/Responses page?
[18:35] <bdmurray> mathiaz: if you look at Bugs/Responses you'll see the secuirty team uses a regex for including theirs
[18:35] <bdmurray> that's what I'd recommend so you only have to update it in one place
[18:35] <mathiaz> bdmurray: ok
[18:38] <bdmurray> mathiaz: I'd be consistent with //remote_system or //remote_srv
[18:40] <Nicador> Hello. I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10 Intrepid. I want to disable the feature that closes my monitor after a while of inactivity. I tried searching on the forums and on Google, but with no luck. Can you please help me ?
[18:47] <mathiaz> bdmurray: DebuggingSamba and Bug/Reponses page updated
[18:47] <mathiaz> bdmurray: thanks for the input
[18:48] <bdmurray> mathiaz: thank you for writing it.  should I stick the repsonses in the greasemonkey script too?
[18:48] <mathiaz> bdmurray: sure.
[18:49] <mathiaz> bdmurray: there are different stock replies depending on the type of problems though.
[18:49] <bdmurray> mathiaz: I read that
[18:53] <NotADJ> Anyone here use LDAP on Ubuntu with TLS?
[18:54] <bdmurray> mathiaz: should the upgrade failure information be gathered automatically
[18:54] <mathiaz> bdmurray: if it's reported by apport, it will be included automatically
[19:02] <jmedina> NotADJ: here with my own CA
[19:03] <cliebow> jmedina:in intrepid?
[19:04] <jmedina> nopt, hardy
[19:05] <jmedina> I have not used intrepid, only hardy
[19:06] <NotADJ> Hello cliebow.
[19:07] <cliebow> 8~)
[19:07] <NotADJ> jmedina: I have added my cert paths to the slapd.conf file, and opened ldaps in the /etc/default/* file, the port opens but no form of handshake can be made.
[19:11] <Ishmael> anyone around?
[19:11] <LHC> yer
[19:11] <LHC> hey all
[19:11] <Ishmael> hey
[19:12] <Ishmael> if anyone needs to help me, this is my first time messing with cgi, i've got a .pl file that it says needs to be in cgi-bin, i have apache2 installed and not sure how to get this thing working
[19:13] <Ishmael> read "needs" as "wants"
[19:13] <LHC> dammit I was going to insult you xD jk
[19:13] <Ishmael> yes, i'm that important, you need to help me... >_>
[19:13] <LHC> hmmm Im really noob at apache
[19:13] <LHC> join #apache
[19:13] <LHC> its for that xD
[19:13] <Ishmael> kk
[19:18] <fx3> hi, im trying to set up a server in a windows environment with hostname 'userver' but i cant access it with that on my windows machines. what gives?
[19:20] <fx3> actually that is confusing, let me rephrase: We have a little shop with 10 comupters and a windows server named 'server' its accessible by that name instead of the ip. i just set up ubuntu server with hostname 'userver' alongside the windows one and i can only get to it using the IP.
[19:23] <LHC> usually wait a bit till the people who know stuff read your message, Idk anything xD
[19:24] <fx3> hehe, but your learning, right?
[19:24] <LHC> always
[19:26] <Nicador> Hello. I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10 Intrepid. I want to disable the feature that closes my monitor after a while of inactivity. I tried searching on the forums and on Google, but with no luck. Can you please help me ?
[19:38] <racecar56> hello is anyone here
[19:39] <fx3> everyone with the answers is currently occupied with their other lives. they will come back to us with the answers
[19:40] <racecar56> k
[19:40] <fx3> you should post your question, maybe i can help
[19:41] <racecar56> ok well earlier i was talking with genii and we went through a bunch of problems and fixed most, but I think the OS isn't even booting
[19:41] <racecar56> the os is ubuntu 8.10 server and im following this guide: http://samuel.thollander.net/projects/linux-on-hp-ex470/
[19:47] <kirkland> nijaba: ping
[19:47] <racecar56> i accidentally didnt make a separate /boot partition that is fat16
[19:55] <fx3> so what step are you at exactly?
[19:55] <fx3> do you have it running as a headless server or as a harddrive in another machine?
[19:59] <racecar56> its a headless server
[20:00] <racecar56> i install it on the server's hd in a pc
[20:00] <racecar56> and then i put the sever's hd back in server
[20:00] <racecar56> boom
[20:01] <racecar56> im thinking the problem why it dosent seem to have internet (i can't ping it, i can ssh it, etc) is because the OS isn't even booting.
[20:01] <fx3> aha, shit, you cant find out what the problem is cause you cant see it
[20:01] <Nicador> Hello. I have an Ubuntu Server 8.10 Intrepid. I want to disable the feature that closes my monitor after a while of inactivity. I tried searching on the forums and on Google, but with no luck. Can you please help me ?
[20:01] <Nicador> Pleaseeee help!!
[20:02] <racecar56> ok..
[20:02] <racecar56> wait..
[20:02] <fx3> Nicador, no need to retransmit, we heard you and we cant help you, you will have to wait for a more experienced user to come along and read your message
[20:02] <racecar56> never mind i dont know
[20:02] <fx3> Nicador, dont feel like we are ignoring you, we simply dont know how to help you
[20:02] <racecar56> try the ubuntu forums
[20:02] <Nicador> I know .. but i hope somebody knows ...
[20:03] <Nicador> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6762268
[20:03] <fx3> hmm
[20:05] <fx3> and the booting on your PC machine works fine?
[20:05] <racecar56> yes
[20:06] <Nicador> I tried pretty much everything ... i think it's one more thing that a missed.. and it's driving me nuts/
[20:06] <racecar56> i think the BIOS checks what its booting into, and because it came with crummy ol' windows, it wants a boot partiton with fat16
[20:06] <fx3> racecar56, and theres no way you can hook up a monitor or a serial console?
[20:07] <racecar56> fx3: nope
[20:07] <racecar56> ssh is my only hope
[20:07] <fx3> well, if you install lilo on the MBR it shouldnt be a problem
[20:07] <racecar56> how? i have grub currently
[20:07] <fx3> and if the server was set to boot from the same disk then it should boot right into lilo
[20:07] <fx3> ok that should work too
[20:07] <racecar56> ok, this is what i think
[20:08] <fx3> hmm, how is it booting on your PC right now?
[20:08] <racecar56> it says 'The important stuff is to make /boot a FAT16 partition...'
[20:08] <racecar56> on my guide blog post it said that
[20:09] <fx3> ahh, so the bios only boots from fat16
[20:09] <racecar56> or 32
[20:09] <racecar56> he didnt try though
[20:09] <racecar56> yes
[20:09] <fx3> and you dont have a boot slice at all?
[20:09] <racecar56> right
[20:09] <racecar56> just 1 i think
[20:09] <racecar56> 'The important stuff is to make /boot a FAT16 partition (FAT32 might work, didn’t try), about 100MiB should be enough. Install grub to the master boot record. ( (hd0) in grub terms). This might seem odd, and why yes it is.'
[20:10] <fx3> yes, so create this partition
[20:10] <racecar56> DOH
[20:10] <fx3> lol, am i missing something?
[20:10] <racecar56> resize the main one and make one there?
[20:10] <fx3> yes, that should work, gparted, or parted
[20:10] <racecar56> oh gosh, it takes ages
[20:10] <racecar56> oh well
[20:11] <racecar56> now i have to look for my gparted cd, glad i labeled it
[20:11] <fx3> how come you missed this step?
[20:11] <racecar56> i didnt read it :(
[20:11] <fx3> you can always get it from apt
[20:11] <racecar56> xorg dosent run on servers...
[20:11] <racecar56> and anyway, how would it resize itself?
[20:11] <fx3> then use parted ?
[20:12] <fx3> and i ment resize it on your PC machine
[20:12] <racecar56> i knoq
[20:12] <racecar56> *know
[20:12] <fx3> you cant be booted from a harddrive your trying to resize lol
[20:12] <racecar56> i know
[20:13] <fx3> so you might as well use normal ubuntu for it
[20:13] <fx3> with gooey
[20:13] <racecar56> thats what im saying
[20:13] <racecar56> WHAT?!?!?
[20:13] <racecar56> lol
[20:13] <racecar56> i have my pc's original HD out
[20:13] <racecar56> so i put it in, put in server's, then turn it on?
[20:13] <fx3> well, tell the bios to boot from *your* original HD
[20:14] <racecar56> ok
[20:14] <racecar56> woot i found gparted
[20:16] <racecar56> *ping...poof* lolz it does that when i take the cover off
[20:16] <racecar56> it ping cause of the little lever that you push and poof because it fell on carpet
[20:18] <fx3> ahh lol
[20:19] <racecar56> problem: my BIG graphics card wont let me put in my hd
[20:19] <racecar56> solution... ttake it out.. doh
[20:19] <fx3> lol, cant you just hold it in your hand?
[20:20] <racecar56> my graphics card blocks it
[20:20] <racecar56> i cant put in a 2nd hd without breaking it
[20:20] <fx3> the IDE connector?
[20:20] <racecar56> anyhting
[20:20] <racecar56> the whole HD itself
[20:21] <fx3> hmmm
[20:21] <fx3> cant you get a long IDE lead and just shove it in somehow?
[20:21] <racecar56> its a scsi
[20:21] <fx3> aaaaaaaaaaaaah
[20:21] <fx3> very nice
[20:21] <racecar56> mabye i should just leave the hd out
[20:22] <racecar56> my pc is from june 2008
[20:22] <racecar56> and i put a floppy drive into it :P
[20:22] <fx3> yea but you wont be able to resize the hd, unless you boot from live CD
[20:22] <racecar56> i am gonna take my original hd out
[20:24] <racecar56> nvm
[20:24] <racecar56> im just gonna 'leave it loose'
[20:24] <racecar56> wait....
[20:24] <fx3> at work we have about 4 harddrives 'loose' in the case lol
[20:25] <racecar56> how the heck can i make ubuntu use that other partition rather than its own
[20:25] <racecar56> lolz
[20:25] <fx3> boot from live CD, or boot from another installation
[20:25] <racecar56> right now im gonna format my current gparted cd  because its NOT current
[20:25] <racecar56> while that goes on ill download the testing gparted
[20:26] <fx3> if you have internet connection you can always apt-get it
[20:26] <racecar56> dur.... 0.3.x? not fun
[20:26] <fx3> sudo apt-get install gparted
[20:26] <racecar56> gosh 8.10's gparted was from before i even used it
[20:27] <fx3> i dont know, it seems to do the job fine for me
[20:27] <racecar56> kay but i like the newer ones
[20:28]  * racecar56 downloads gparted 0.4.3-1
[20:28] <racecar56> gparted live
[20:28] <LHC> on gparted all the text is really smal
[20:29] <LHC> you cant read it lol so fuckin werid
[20:29] <racecar56> not for me
[20:30] <fx3> Nicador, try booting your install with noacpi or noapic or both
[20:31] <fx3> or, acpi=off is the command
[20:34] <racecar56> my gparted download is done
[20:34] <racecar56> but its not done blanking the disk yet
[20:34] <racecar56> ha ha right as i said that it finished
[20:34] <racecar56> ffaiilll
[20:35] <robertj> hey all, I've got Poweredge R200 running LTS, but I don't have any video out unless it is plugged in while booted, any ideas on that?
[20:35] <racecar56> i dunno but i know one thing....
[20:35] <racecar56> you are LUCKY to have video at ALL. i have none
[20:35] <robertj> racecar56: bwahaha, I'm having flashbacks to 1996
[20:36] <racecar56> lolz
[20:36] <robertj> no video on an R200 or other device?
[20:36] <racecar56> i have a hp mediasmart ex475
[20:41] <fx3> robertj, sometimes machines wont enable the VGA output unless a monitor was plugged in during boot time
[20:42] <robertj> fx3: any chance if I take the long walk of shame to the closet I will find a bios option :)
[20:42] <fx3> robertj, probably not, but try, every girl is different
[20:42] <robertj> KVM is going to be here next week, but its not analog, wonder if that will fix it
[20:43] <fx3> yea with KVM it should boot fine too
[20:43] <robertj> and honestly, it probably just doesn't matter that there is no VGA
[20:43] <robertj> but still
[20:44] <racecar56> i gots gparted 0.4.3 compiled and im burning gparted 0.4.3 to a cd too
[20:45] <racecar56> my gparted is done burning now im gonna resize the partition
[20:45] <robertj> the way I figure it is that I want everything in the closet needlessly perfect because if I am in there, something has already gone badly wrong and I don't need anything else to stress about :)
[20:47] <robertj> wow, I'm impressed by the terseness of it's BIOS options
[20:47] <robertj> and does ANYONE want to report on keyboard errors at boot this decade?
[20:48] <fx3> yea that was annoying when i set up my server
[20:48] <robertj> especially on a server, yeesh
[20:48] <fx3> unplugged it all and put it away
[20:48] <fx3> power on and squat
[20:48] <robertj> mine was off by default at least
[20:49] <racecar56> ok i hooked up my servers hard drive and im gonna turn on my pc
[20:56] <racecar56> im resizing my partiton now and then later its gonna make a boot fat16
[20:56] <racecar56> brb
[21:01] <soren> ScottK: Would you consider https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/331769, please?
[21:01]  * ScottK looks
[21:02] <soren> I couldn't find a better rationale than "it would be nice", so I left that bit out.
[21:05] <ScottK> soren: Cloud computing is a server team focus this cycle and this supports that.
[21:05] <racecar56> woot its done all of its stuff
[21:05] <ScottK> soren: Scribble something like that in there and I'll approve it.
[21:05] <soren> ScottK: Will do. Gimme a sec.
[21:06] <ScottK> soren: Now that I'm an archive admin, there's another catagory of stuff I'm willing to approve for New and that's if I New it myself so it's not a distraction (that being one of the prime rationales for new package freeze).
[21:07] <ScottK> This one I think a manage
[21:07] <soren> ScottK: There. Rationale added. Thanks for your input :)
[21:08] <ajmitch> ScottK: archive admin is a fairly recent thing for you?
[21:08]  * soren looks at the ~motu-release member list
[21:08] <soren> Three weeks or so, I believe?
[21:09] <ajmitch> useful :)
[21:09] <racecar56> now what am i going to do to make ubuntu use my /dev/sda3 (/boot fat16) as its /boot folder instead of its own partition?
[21:10] <ScottK> ajmitch: Yes.
[21:11] <ScottK> soren: If you look at the motu-release delegates list you'll find I'm the Server Team delegate.
[21:11] <ScottK> I'm all the approving you need.
[21:11] <soren> ScottK: Oh, I just need one?
[21:11] <racecar56> brb
[21:11] <ScottK> Generally it's two except the delegates can decide stuff in their area on their own.
[21:12] <soren> ScottK: Ah, lovely. So good to upload?
[21:12] <ScottK> If that wasn't the case me being a 'delegate' wouldn't make any different.
[21:12] <ScottK> Gimme a sec to mark in the bug.  I do wonder why you build-dep on DH7 and use CDBS?
[21:13] <soren> I happen to like cdbs.
[21:13] <soren> I'm perverse, apparantly.
[21:15] <ScottK> I'm fine with that, it's that you aren't using any dh 7 features, yet you depend on that version.
[21:15] <ScottK> soren: Approved.
[21:15] <soren> debhelper >= 7... I don't remember why I always tend to default to that.
[21:15] <ajmitch> probably to make the lives of backporters painful
[21:16] <racecar56> back
[21:16] <ScottK> ajmitch: Only for Dapper.  We have dh 7 in hardy-bacports.
[21:16] <ScottK> soren: Not a big deal, just thought I'd mention it.
[21:16] <ajmitch> good
[21:16] <ScottK> backports.org did the same thing for etch-backports.
[21:17] <soren> ScottK: Right. I'll consider it going forward. I.e. I'll see if I can remember why I started doing it.
[21:17] <racecar56> how to i make my /dev/sda3 a /boot partition instead of / having a boot folder?
[21:18] <soren> Move its contents into the new partition and mount it?
[21:18] <soren> ScottK: Thanks!
[21:18] <racecar56> isnt that not permanent?
[21:19] <racecar56> then it might look for boot to be in / and go boom that it dosent exist
[21:19] <racecar56> right?
[21:20] <soren> You need to tweak your bootloader accordingly, yes.
[21:21] <racecar56> ok how is a step-by-step way to do this?
[21:22] <racecar56> ok im at the prompts
[21:23] <racecar56> *prompt
[21:24] <fx3_> lol i just got a chlamydia testing kit through the post :D
[21:24] <fx3_> :S*******************
[21:24] <fx3_> im not happy about that, that was a wrong emoticon
[21:24] <fx3_> im confused and a little disturbed
[21:26] <racecar56> is there a step-by-step way to make ubuntu use /dev/sda3 as it's boot partition instead of /boot?
[21:27] <fx3_> you have to do it in grub
[21:27] <racecar56> ok...
[21:27]  * racecar56 ctrl-alt-del's
[21:27] <fx3_> but the problem remains that your server needs a fat16 partition to boot from
[21:28] <racecar56> ok im at the 3 choice grub menu
[21:29] <racecar56> ok what do i do to make it use /dev/sda3 as /boot now... i am editing the first choice
[21:31] <fx3_> man, you need to learn to google
[21:32] <fx3_> do you have a booting line already on your screen?
[21:32] <racecar56> yes
[21:32] <fx3_> because if you change the root=/dev/sda3 to root=/boot then it will use that partition
[21:33] <fx3_> but be aware that /boot isnt really a partition, its a mounted boot partition
[21:33] <fx3_> you need to figure out where the actual drive slice is
[21:33] <racecar56> well /dev/sda3 i guess would be (hd0,2) in grub
[21:33] <fx3_> probably
[21:34] <racecar56> ok i pressed 'e' on the default boot entry now what
[21:35] <aezell> Hi all, I'm having an issue with xvfb-run on Intrepid server. It never seems to kill the Xvfb server that it starts.
[21:36] <racecar56> ok well i gotta brb
[21:38] <kansan> does cron ever use enviormental variables?  i have some set for the root user in .bashrc ... but i'm not thinking cron gets access to these.... true?
[21:40] <soren> ScottK: elastichosts-utils ready for your NEW processing pleasure.
[21:41] <fx3_> racecar56, you need to edit the boot line to have root= and the partition where the boot stuffs is
[21:42] <didrocks> jdstrand: around?
[21:43] <jdstrand> didrocks: hi!
[21:43] <didrocks> jdstrand: Hi :) How's you doing?
[21:44] <jdstrand> didrocks: great, you?
[21:44] <didrocks> jdstrand: fine too :)
[21:44] <didrocks> jdstrand: I know that FF has been in progress, but I did tonight a little trick on ufw
[21:44] <didrocks> jdstrand: adding bash completion to it :)
[21:45] <didrocks> jdstrand: are you interesting, can I propose a merged branch?
[21:45] <jdstrand> didrocks: nifty. how did you do it?
[21:46] <didrocks> jdstrand: I was wondering how to achieve it in my own project and I inspired myself on bzr :)
[21:46] <jdstrand> didrocks: how does it work with non-bash shells?
[21:47] <didrocks> jdstrand: it does not work atm, but I think we can find some workaround for them, using same ideas
[21:47] <didrocks> jdstrand: I have to put an eye on that, if you wish
[21:48] <jdstrand> didrocks: does it work with bash-completion (the package)?
[21:48] <didrocks> jdstrand: zsh & emacs should be easy
[21:48] <racecar56> back for a tiny bit
[21:48] <didrocks> hum, let me check the usage of this package
[21:48] <jdstrand> tbh, I've never looked at that package too closely-- it always seemed rather magical :)
[21:49] <racecar56> like /dev/sda3/vmlinux.....?
[21:49] <racecar56> *vmlinuz
[21:49] <didrocks> jdstrand: ok, I search for the package and yes, it uses it :)
[21:50] <racecar56> do i change the kernel line?
[21:50] <karl86> hi guys i've just followed the instructions on help.ubuntu.com for postfix installation to the letter. But i'm getting the following error in my mail.log:  warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth-client failed: No such file or directory
[21:50] <jdstrand> didrocks: I'd be happy to take a look at it. I'm intrigued. Feel from to do a branch
[21:51] <didrocks> jdstrand: I have to create some files in /etc/bash_completion.d for instance, can I use a .install for that, like bzr ? (you didn't use it)
[21:52] <fx3_> racecar56, what does the line say now?
[21:52] <fx3_> sorry, ive got many things going on, trying to solve my own problem too =)
[21:53] <racecar56> i moved /boot to /dev/sda3 and now i have error 15 and i can't edit it
[21:54] <racecar56> now what?
[21:54] <fx3_> file not found, hmm
[21:55] <fx3_> wrong boot partition
[21:55] <fx3_> ahh i see now, hold on
[21:55] <racecar56> i know for a fact /dev/sda3 is my partition where i put /boot and it is my fat16
[21:56] <racecar56> i mounted /dev/sda3 to /mnt then cd / and then mv boot /mnt then i restarted
[21:56] <jdstrand> didrocks: sorry
[21:57] <racecar56> so how do i get back into ubuntu server
[21:57] <fx3_> hold on, let me figure this out
[21:57] <didrocks> jdstrand: no pb 5 minutes is nothing :)
[21:58] <racecar56> ill brb
[21:58] <jdstrand> didrocks: I'd prefer you just drop them in debian/ and use cp. I mean, you could use .install, but I would just use cp anyway :P
[21:58] <fx3_> so, your /boot is where, in grub's terms, (hd0,2) ?
[21:58] <didrocks> jdstrand: ok
[21:58] <fx3_> can you get into grub prompt?
[21:58] <jdstrand> didrocks: btw, we have not connected re ufw backport for hardy
[21:59] <jdstrand> didrocks: I made several changes to ufw so that it should run fine on hardy without needing a newer iptables
[21:59] <jdstrand> didrocks: but I haven't tested it extensively
[21:59] <racecar56> yes
[21:59] <fx3_> oh dear, hold on, you mounted /dev/sda3 on /mnt ???
[21:59] <didrocks> jdstrand: ok, I will try it in a VM and see how does it work
[21:59] <jdstrand> didrocks: I don't know if your still interested in that, but feel free to comment in the bug if you want to pick it up again
[21:59] <racecar56> yes
[22:00] <racecar56> i did so i could move /boot to it
[22:00] <racecar56> then i unmounted it
[22:00] <didrocks> jdstrand: for sure, give me a week or 2 and I will do that :)
[22:00] <fx3_> can you verify that you have /boot in your /dev/sda3?
[22:00] <jdstrand> didrocks: oh no rush at all, I just wanted to touch base with you
[22:00] <fx3_> racecar56, boot into grub prompt
[22:00] <racecar56> how?
[22:00] <racecar56> it gives my a error 15
[22:01] <racecar56> *me
[22:01] <didrocks> jdstrand: ok ;) FYI, I prefer to put the file in shell-completion/bash/<file> to be able to add zsh and emacs later for having an wiser hierarchy
[22:01] <didrocks> jdstrand: then, I cp in the debian/rules
[22:02] <jdstrand> didrocks: I have no opinion atm-- like I said, it is all rather magical for me :)
[22:02] <jdstrand> didrocks: so feel free to guide me
[22:02] <didrocks> jdstrand: you will see, it's very easy in reality :)
[22:02] <didrocks> no black magic there ^^
[22:02] <fx3_> racecar56, i mean grub menu, where you can type your commands
[22:02] <racecar56> i cant
[22:02] <racecar56> right when grub attempts to load it error 15's
[22:03] <racecar56> remember? i mounted /dev/sda3 and moved /boot to it and then restarted
[22:03] <racecar56> betcha i can fix it with a live cd
[22:05] <racecar56> maybe i should go on gparted then mount / to something and then mount /dev/sda3 to another something and then i move it from /dev/sda3 to my mounted / and then go to grub?
[22:05] <racecar56> restart as in go to grub
[22:07] <didrocks> jdstrand: it's ready. I just execute run_tests.sh to check that I haven't break anything :)
[22:08] <karl86> guys can anyone help me with a postfix installation?
[22:09] <jdstrand> didrocks: cool. where is the branch?
[22:12] <fx3_> you need to edit the grub.conf or something
[22:12] <racecar56> fx3 are you still there
[22:12] <racecar56> nvnm
[22:14] <fx3_> racecar56, yea sorry, someone finally is trying to help me =)
[22:15] <racecar56> ok
[22:15] <didrocks> jdstrand: ~didrocks/ufw/shell-completion (test finished and nothing broken \o/)
[22:16] <ScottK> soren: Accepted.
[22:16] <didrocks> jdstrand: just tell me what you think about it. Again, zsh and emacs seems to be easily adressable too. Time to go to bed for me ^^
[22:17] <jdstrand> didrocks: I'll take a look at it
[22:18] <racecar56> where is grub.conf?
[22:19] <fx3_> in /etc
[22:19] <racecar56> bash: /etc/grub.conf: No such file or directory
[22:20] <fx3_> maybe in your /boot?
[22:21] <jmarsden> racecar56: /boot/grub/grub.conf  # but /etc/grub.conf is usually a symlink to the file in /boot/grub/
[22:21] <fx3_> i dont have any handy ubuntu servers running at the moment sorry
[22:21] <racecar56> im running gparted live
[22:21] <Deeps> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:22] <Deeps> is the "grub.conf or something"
[22:23] <racecar56> menu.lst does exist
[22:23]  * racecar56 edits menu.lst
[22:24] <racecar56> ok so how do i make ubuntu mount /dev/sda3 to /boot automatically
[22:24] <Deeps> edit /etv/fstab
[22:24] <Deeps> /etc/fstab even
[22:26] <racecar56> ok i add a line: /dev/sda3     /boot?
[22:26] <racecar56> (my /dev/sda3 is a fat16)
[22:27] <Deeps> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[22:27] <racecar56> ok ill try my wacky configuration
[22:28] <racecar56> grub error 15
[22:30] <racecar56> ok you know what.. i feel like reinstalling ubuntu all over again
[22:30]  * racecar56 gets install disk
[22:33] <racecar56> scanning cdrom
[22:34] <racecar56> clock setup
[22:34] <racecar56> w00t partitioning time
[22:34] <fx3> just reinstall the brug
[22:34] <fx3> grub
[22:34] <fx3> you dont need to reinstal everything
[22:35] <racecar56> orly?
[22:36] <racecar56> sorry its too late i made a partition table already :(
[22:38] <fx3> if you havent applied it it shouldnt have made any changes
[22:39] <racecar56> all i did was 'click' on the device name
[22:40] <racecar56> well... it is alot easier like this so i guess ill reinstall it
[22:41] <racecar56> it wont let me use fat16 OR 32 as /boot
[22:42]  * racecar56 ctrl-alt-del's
[22:42] <racecar56> it did not make a new partition table :D
[22:42] <racecar56> but now what the heck am i going to do...
[22:44] <fx3> ok, go back to install and set up grub on the MBR of the whole disk
[22:44] <racecar56> sadly... 'racecar56 ctrl-alt-del's' that means i went off of installer
[22:45] <racecar56> and my sever must boot off of a fat16 partition it cant do others
[22:45] <fx3> isnt the HD still in your PC?
[22:45] <racecar56> yes
[22:45] <fx3> look, best way is to boot from a linux installation on your normal PC with your server harddrive as your *second* HD
[22:46] <racecar56> but i dont have more than 2 scsi wires
[22:46] <racecar56> only 2 plugs
[22:46]  * racecar56 turns off comp and looks around for more plugs
[22:49] <racecar56> i couldnt find another power wire but i found a data
[23:17] <mathiaz> bdmurray: hi - do you have ressource to start writing greasemonkey scripts?
[23:19] <fx3> racecar56, you still there?
[23:21] <racecar56> yes
[23:21] <racecar56> thets what i wanted to say
[23:22] <bdmurray> mathiaz: nothing specific diveintogreasemonkey is useful
[23:23] <bdmurray> mathiaz: what are you thinking about?
[23:23] <mathiaz> bdmurray: I want to be able to hide unrelevant comments in a LP bug thread
[23:24] <mathiaz> bdmurray: and then store somewhere which comments are hidden for each bug (so that the comments can be hidden again when a page is reloaded)
[23:24] <mathiaz> bdmurray: and then make stats about users that have the least usefull comments
[23:25] <mathiaz> bdmurray: and auto-hide them automatically
[23:25] <mathiaz> bdmurray: and then share all of this between developers
[23:26] <mathiaz> bdmurray: basically - implementing a comment rating system in LP :)
[23:29] <racecar56> hey fx3 are you there?
[23:30] <fx3> yea hi
[23:30] <fx3> sorry, went to the loo
[23:31] <racecar56> ok i went and browsed my OLD stuff and found a really old IDE drive... i will install linux onto it and use gparted off of there and fix my server's HDD up
[23:31] <racecar56> i put in the IDE drive
[23:32] <racecar56> sadly i dont have a SCSI power cord so i have to do stuff like this
[23:32] <racecar56> (by the way the hard drive is from an old compaq presario sr1010z)
[23:33] <racecar56> i dont know if it wrks but ill find out...
[23:35] <racecar56> omg gparted found it
[23:35] <mathiaz> bdmurray: where is the ubuntu-gm-scripts bzr branch located now?
[23:35] <bdmurray> mathiaz: its launchpad-gm-scripts
[23:36] <bdmurray> useful for other projects too I'd think
[23:36] <bdmurray> at least some of them
[23:36] <mathiaz> bdmurray: great - thanks
[23:59] <racecar56> hey fx3 are you there?
[23:59] <fx3> yea, trying to set up named properlly
[23:59] <racecar56> k