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| ghostcube | hmmm is there anything known why /dev/dsp isnt working on intreoid kde4.2 intel hda OB SK | 00:25 |
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| ghostcube | my games claim no /dev/dsp available | 00:26 |
| ghostcube | but this worked a time ago very well | 00:26 |
| ghostcube | all oss thingies are installed and loaded | 00:26 |
| ghostcube | oO | 00:26 |
| Riddell | ~twitter update I'm glad the internet has good blogs to read while I wait for qt compiles. I recommend badscience.net | 00:48 |
| kubotu | status updated | 00:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell: According to doko we need to recompile the python QT stuff now that we've moved from 2.4/2.5 to 2.5/2.6. He promises email tomorrow. | 00:50 |
| Riddell | I can imagine that to be the case | 00:51 |
| * ScottK looks at the buildd backlog and despairs.. | 00:51 | |
| * JontheEchidna links our kdepim bugs to upstream bugs | 00:56 | |
| JontheEchidna | !find /usr/bin/ktnefviewer | 03:07 |
| ubottu | File /usr/bin/ktnefviewer found in kdepim-dbg, ktnef | 03:07 |
| JontheEchidna | hmmmm | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | Ah, we don't package it anymore | 03:09 |
| ScottK | Isn't it embedded in kdepim now? | 03:15 |
| ScottK | libsdl1.2 is fixed. It was a bad merge, not the fault of our arts eradication campaign. | 03:23 |
| shtylman | will qt4.5 be shipped with jaunty? | 03:30 |
| ScottK | That seems likely at this point. | 03:38 |
| maco | since KMail crashes when i try to set my GPG encryption key, how *can* i set it? | 03:55 |
| maco | is there a text file somewhere? | 03:55 |
| shtylman | some plasma widgets have drawing issues with the new qt | 04:02 |
| maco | with qt 4.5? | 04:02 |
| vorian | maco: really? | 04:02 |
| maco | that's known... that's why kubuntu's shipping 4.4, isn't it? | 04:02 |
| * vorian unsets and resets | 04:03 | |
| maco | 4.4 has a bunch of layout stuff broken so the plasmoids are all hacked to work with it | 04:03 |
| maco | think of it as Internet Explorer CSS | 04:03 |
| shtylman | yea...I installed 4.5 from rgreening ppa and layout stuff seems to be ok | 04:03 |
| maco | so 4.5 fixes it (think: WebKit) but thus makes it incompatible | 04:03 |
| shtylman | oh..havn't checked webkit stuff yet | 04:03 |
| shtylman | but the folder view plasmoid is broken | 04:04 |
| maco | WebKit was the first to pass Acid3 | 04:04 |
| shtylman | nice | 04:04 |
| maco | so i'm using it as the example of "standards compliant CSS" v. "Internet Explorer CSS" | 04:04 |
| shtylman | heh | 04:04 |
| ScottK | As I hear it KDE 4.2.1 will have a patch set for Qt4.5 compatibility. | 04:04 |
| vorian | we shall soon find out | 04:04 |
| maco | really? i thought they were just going with 4.3 being the 4.5 compatible one | 04:04 |
| shtylman | to patch 4.2? | 04:04 |
| shtylman | will we get to it in time? | 04:04 |
| vorian | shtylman: it will be done upstream | 04:05 |
| vorian | s/will/is being | 04:05 |
| ScottK | 4.2.1 is due out in ~a week or so. | 04:05 |
| scott_ev | evenin all, first time here | 04:05 |
| vorian | march 4th | 04:05 |
| vorian | hi scott_ev | 04:05 |
| ScottK | o/ scott_ev | 04:05 |
| ScottK | OK, for some large definition of 'or so'. | 04:06 |
| vorian | ScottK: scott_ev is interesting in helping on the bug-squad | 04:06 |
| vorian | interested, even | 04:06 |
| * ScottK looks at JontheEchidna as he's Mr. Bug. | 04:06 | |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: ^ | 04:06 |
| ScottK | scott_ev: Glad to have you. We definitely need more help. | 04:06 |
| scott_ev | I did qa in a MSFT environment a few years ago. | 04:06 |
| scott_ev | good | 04:06 |
| scott_ev | same mind set applies, sort of | 04:06 |
| shtylman | ScottK: gotcha | 04:07 |
| ScottK | It's a bit different I think. | 04:07 |
| shtylman | will we pull upstream again? | 04:07 |
| shtylman | or just the patch set | 04:07 |
| ScottK | shtylman: We will move to 4.2.1 and probably even 4.2.2 before release. | 04:08 |
| shtylman | thats fast | 04:08 |
| ScottK | scott_ev: The key thing is to get good bug reports so we can either fix our packaging problems or upstream can get them fixed. | 04:08 |
| ScottK | Bugs found now have a decent shot at being in a load we have before release. | 04:09 |
| shtylman | ScottK: how are bugs that go upstream handled? | 04:09 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna is the expert, but generally you file a bug at bugs.kde.org and then link the b.k.o bug to the LP bug. | 04:10 |
| ScottK | Then we'll see status change on the remote bug watch and know what's up | 04:10 |
| ScottK | Part two of important is making the bug reporters feel like it's worth their time to report stuff. | 04:11 |
| scott_ev | ScottK: understood | 04:11 |
| ScottK | That's more of a social problem than a technical one, but very important. | 04:11 |
| maco | ScottK: that one seems to work not so well | 04:11 |
| maco | :-/ | 04:11 |
| ScottK | maco: Agreed. | 04:12 |
| ScottK | I don't think that in general the Ubuntu bug squad is doing really well about that. | 04:12 |
| maco | i think a lot of us triagers ask all the questions we can think of then go "uhh....i don't think that's enough info, but i don't know what else devs need, so i give up" and hope someone else will take over triaging | 04:12 |
| ScottK | I think we do better in Kubuntu with KDE stuff, but there's always room for improvement. | 04:12 |
| vorian | maco: i cannot reproduce your gpg crash in kmail | 04:13 |
| scott_ev | what chanel is the bugs announce running on? | 04:13 |
| ScottK | maco: I see a lot of Can you reproduce this in an current release -> Incomplete. | 04:13 |
| ScottK | That's pretty demotivating I think. | 04:13 |
| maco | vorian: i can set the *signing* key | 04:13 |
| shtylman | yea | 04:13 |
| ScottK | vorian: Install seahorse and I expect you can reproduce the hell out of it. | 04:14 |
| vorian | ah, no way! | 04:14 |
| maco | ScottK: i'm not using seahorse agent! | 04:14 |
| maco | i'm using gpg-agent | 04:14 |
| ScottK | OK. | 04:14 |
| ScottK | I'm probably going to feel like your system is forever haunted by seahorse. | 04:14 |
| maco | but for encryption i click the "choose" button and select my key. not sure if i get to the "OK" button or not, but it crashes before i get back to the screen that shows what keys are currently set and has teh "apply" button | 04:14 |
| maco | hahha | 04:15 |
| ScottK | Got backtrace? | 04:15 |
| maco | scott_ev: #ubuntu-bugs-announce i think | 04:15 |
| maco | ScottK: not yet. i just hit it when kmail went "i refuse to send this email encrypted because your key is not set" | 04:16 |
| scott_ev | maco: thx, I was hoping for one specific to Kubuntu | 04:16 |
| maco | scott_ev: same bug tracker | 04:16 |
| scott_ev | goode | 04:16 |
| maco | and the same apps can be run in both | 04:16 |
| scott_ev | I have it scrolling right now | 04:16 |
| scott_ev | ok, thx | 04:16 |
| shtylman | I think that sometimes the problem for reporting bugs is the time it takes to report the bug | 04:16 |
| shtylman | even with the simple launchpad interface it can be a burden | 04:17 |
| maco | lp's nicer than bugzilla, but i often just go upstream rather than boher with waiting for it to be forwarded | 04:17 |
| maco | if you know it's upstream, don't bother telling the *buntu folks | 04:18 |
| maco | i'm install kmail-dbgsym now | 04:23 |
| maco | LOL nice debug output! "KCrash: Application 'kmail' crashing..." | 04:32 |
| maco | ScottK: halp! | 04:34 |
| maco | gdb says "no stack" | 04:35 |
| maco | :) | 04:35 |
| maco | *:( | 04:35 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: ^^^ You around? | 04:35 |
| ScottK | That or maybe vorian has a suggestion on getting a stack trace? | 04:35 |
| maco | also: The program has no registers now. | 04:37 |
| maco | i have the dbg output from while it ran if that helps. it crashes on an ASSERT | 04:38 |
| maco | im guessing that means the assert received a 0 | 04:39 |
| ScottK | Keep in mind the only programming I do is in Python. You almost certainly know better than I do. | 04:42 |
| maco | really? | 04:43 |
| maco | ok | 04:43 |
| maco | well next time i have to look at python, i'm asking you | 04:43 |
| maco | that stuff's weird. the brackets are invisible O_O | 04:43 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ping. <awake>? | 04:59 |
| rgreening | shtylman: ping | 04:59 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: ping | 05:00 |
| ScottK | rgreening: I think you're closer to him than anyone else who's active at the moment. Run over and wake him up. | 05:00 |
| rgreening | lol. tru dat | 05:00 |
| rgreening | the altantic is a bit cold to swim in this time of year | 05:01 |
| rgreening | ScottK: do you know if Riddell got the Qt build figured out? | 05:02 |
| scott_ev | vorian: off topic. are you a freenode staffer? | 05:04 |
| ScottK | Lost my keyboard for a bit there. | 05:07 |
| ScottK | rgreening: No. | 05:07 |
| maco | rgreening is further east than me? | 05:07 |
| ScottK | I'm firther east than you. | 05:07 |
| ScottK | i/u | 05:07 |
| ScottK | He's in Newfoundland. Further north too. | 05:08 |
| rgreening | Im in th emost easterly point in north america | 05:08 |
| rgreening | :) | 05:08 |
| rgreening | And location of the oldest city in north america | 05:08 |
| ScottK | North America/island pretending to be part of North America. | 05:08 |
| rgreening | and location of the first wireless transatlantic signal :) | 05:08 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 05:08 |
| rgreening | Yeah, well we were our own country once too. | 05:09 |
| rgreening | :P | 05:09 |
| maco | ah ok | 05:09 |
| rgreening | republic of newfoundand! | 05:09 |
| rgreening | woo-hoo | 05:09 |
| maco | ScottK: i always forget baltimore is northeast. | 05:09 |
| maco | in my head, it's near Frederick | 05:10 |
| ScottK | Yeah. | 05:10 |
| ScottK | I always think I95 runs north/south, but it really doesn't. | 05:10 |
| rgreening | *yawn* | 06:21 |
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| jussi01 | rgreening: +1 on that ;) | 07:50 |
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| Nightrose | hmmm there is a lot of gnome stuff to be installed on my intrepid system in updates today | 09:55 |
| Nightrose | anyone got an idea what this is about? | 09:55 |
| Sput | they're infecting you! | 09:56 |
| Nightrose | :P | 09:56 |
| Nightrose | gnomemount and libgnomeprintutil to name two | 09:57 |
| maco | Nightrose: aptitude why gnomemount | 10:05 |
| maco | ? | 10:05 |
| Nightrose | i mugshot Depends libgnomevfs2-0 (>= 1:2.17.90) | 10:06 |
| Nightrose | i A libgnomevfs2-0 Recommends gnome-mount | 10:06 |
| maco | ok so its because you have mugshot installed | 10:08 |
| Nightrose | but there is no upgrade of mugshot available | 10:08 |
| Nightrose | so i don't understand why i get all those new packages it wants me to install | 10:09 |
| Nightrose | i'll investigate some more | 10:09 |
| Riddell | NCommander: please rescore https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.2.0-0ubuntu2~intrepid1/+build/871126 | 10:37 |
| NCommander | What, you don't like it -5000 build score :-)? | 10:38 |
| * NCommander did that so the Jaunty builds would take presence during feature freeze. | 10:38 | |
| NCommander | rescored. | 10:39 |
| Riddell | hi jploh | 11:28 |
| jploh | hello | 11:28 |
| jploh | i'm new to python and kde. i've been trying to poke around with KNotification. it seems that i still need to create an instance of QApplication | 11:28 |
| jploh | my code is here http://pastebin.com/m7dc1a14a and i also made an app.notifyrc | 11:28 |
| jploh | maybe someone here can point me to the right direction | 11:28 |
| Riddell | jploh: yes, you always need a KApplication | 11:31 |
| Riddell | and a mainloop exec_() | 11:31 |
| Riddell | else it won't do anything | 11:31 |
| Riddell | here's a notification example | 11:31 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/notifier.py | 11:31 |
| jploh | thanks! | 11:31 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/notifier.notifyrc | 11:31 |
| jploh | great! | 11:31 |
| Riddell | you need to put the .notifyrc file in /usr/share/kde4/apps/notifier | 11:32 |
| jploh | i was thinking of using wx, i guess i should use qt completely? | 11:32 |
| Riddell | and killall knotify4; knotify4 to restart it | 11:32 |
| Riddell | jploh: to use knotify you have to use KDE | 11:32 |
| jploh | yes, i'm using kde now. | 11:32 |
| Riddell | you can also use just qt but then you're limited to qsystemtrayicon.message() or making your own popup widget | 11:33 |
| jploh | got it. thanks a million | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: k3b svn seems to stabilize a bit... not that many updates now | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll probably come out with a package today or tomorrow so that we can test | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | and "hi all", of course :) | 11:43 |
| ghostcube_ | ehlo :) | 11:46 |
| seele | good morning ninjas! | 12:37 |
| Nightrose | morning ninja! | 12:39 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 12:39 |
| Riddell | do ninjas do group hugs? | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | of course | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | but only in secret | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | behind closed doors | 12:45 |
| seele | not much of a group hug if only three people are awake :) | 12:47 |
| seele | of course they happen to be my two favorite ninjas.. | 12:48 |
| Nightrose | more than 2 -> group | 12:48 |
| Nightrose | definitely a group hug | 12:48 |
| seele | 2 could, 3 crowd, 4 group? | 12:48 |
| * Nightrose hugs seele and Riddell | 12:48 | |
| seele | yay! | 12:48 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: the kubuntu website seems to have a "Home" link which overlaps with the kubuntu logo in the top left now | 13:02 |
| rgreening | Riddell: did qt build work after | 13:03 |
| Riddell | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/qt4-x11/4.5.0~+rc1-0ubuntu1 "Currently building" | 13:05 |
| Riddell | NCommander: can you rescore kdepimlibs next? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1/+build/870548 and https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1/+build/870550 | 13:07 |
| Riddell | is there anything we want to see different on the CD sleaves this time round? muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Kubuntu - 9.04 CD copy.odt | 13:08 |
| rgreening | Riddell: "the very best translations..."... lets hope so this time round... | 13:14 |
| ScottK | I would propose we don't promise that until we have some evidence it can be delivered. | 13:16 |
| rgreening | Riddell: RAM requirements should be looked at again. KDE4 and 256 is really on the low side of "bare" minimum. Not sure what KDE team specs out for KDE4, but I know it runs reasonably ok on 384... | 13:16 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I have another who had a high end system, but it installed the free vid drivers and 512 Meg or RAM and no vid card accel, its a dog. | 13:17 |
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| rgreening | kmail keeps losing or changing default settings on me....!!!!! | 13:23 |
| rgreening | I use classic view, yet it just changed to fancy... | 13:23 |
| rgreening | kmail is behaving strange indeed | 13:24 |
| ghostcube | rgreening: what free drivers ? radeon hd or nvidia os | 13:28 |
| rgreening | ghostcube: well, the radeon one actually didn't work at one point due to an apparant ABI mismatch so 3d accel didnt work. That appears fixed now :) | 13:29 |
| ghostcube | ah ok thx :) | 13:29 |
| ghostcube | anything new about th nvidia OS ones ? i havent tested them till now | 13:30 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: pong | 13:30 |
| rgreening | gnop | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | need something? You pinged like 3 people :P | 13:32 |
| rgreening | lol. Not anymore. THat was yesterday :) hahaha | 13:32 |
| shtylman | rgreening: how goes the compilation and packaging front? | 13:46 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: JontheEchidna: do you know if discover.kde.org is linked to from any kubuntu website? i had a confused user send me an email and he said it was some kubuntu site that sent him there | 13:47 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think we do... discover.kde.org isn't even finished | 13:47 |
| Nightrose | right | 13:47 |
| Nightrose | I am working on it ;-) | 13:48 |
| Nightrose | it is currently only showing a naked drupal install | 13:48 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 13:48 |
| Nightrose | ok if you see it somewhere let me know | 13:48 |
| Nightrose | the user doesn't seem too clueful so it might just be some random site on the net | 13:48 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: looks like we do http://www.kubuntu.org/tour | 13:49 |
| rgreening | shtylman: Riddell has uploaded Qt for build/release. Should be ready in an hour or so... | 13:50 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: ah ok - might be a good idea to remove that for now as it only shows a empty drupal install | 13:50 |
| Nightrose | i hope we have it sorted in a week or two | 13:50 |
| shtylman | rgreening: is that to his ppa? or the main repo? and what about the needed kde rebuild? or patch set? | 13:51 |
| rgreening | shtylman: thats in main | 13:51 |
| shtylman | rgreening: cool | 13:51 |
| rgreening | shtylman: I'm going to upload kdebase-workspace again. | 13:51 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: maybe link to the visual guide instead? | 13:51 |
| rgreening | I also patched in our bzr and Riddell can release a new kdebase-workspace at anytime to fix the crashing of kdmgreet cased in qt 4.5.0. | 13:52 |
| * Riddell takes the hint and looks at kdebase-workspace | 13:53 | |
| Riddell | ryanakca: ^^ | 13:53 |
| rgreening | :) | 13:54 |
| rgreening | Im a persistant bugger sometimes | 13:54 |
| shtylman | heh | 13:54 |
| rgreening | so, shtylman, there you have it. A couple of hours of build and we are good to go. Quintasan, as well will be able to update :) | 13:55 |
| rgreening | ty Riddell :) | 13:56 |
| Riddell | hang on it hasn't built yet | 13:56 |
| Riddell | could still all blow up | 13:56 |
| shtylman | rgreening: excellent ... Riddell: don't be negative :) | 13:57 |
| rgreening | Riddell: well, the workspace fix is required at any rate. So that can happen. I have Qt 4.5.0 built here on amd64 with the exact same one I uploaded, so amd64 will build :) | 13:58 |
| rgreening | which should mean i386 as well | 13:58 |
| Lure | oh, we are getting qt 4.5! | 13:58 |
| Lure | rgreening: great work! | 13:58 |
| rgreening | yus | 13:59 |
| rgreening | np. | 13:59 |
| rgreening | I has some help from fabo too (ty fabo) | 13:59 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I expect some of the hppa and sparc failure will be easily sortable. | 14:00 |
| rgreening | ScottK: ^ is the ports expert :P | 14:01 |
| seele | hmm.. i think i got too much sleep last night. | 14:14 |
| seele | i read today's launchpad interview and immediately thought "so *he's* the one to blame for launchpad?" | 14:14 |
| seele | hehe | 14:14 |
| seele | urgh | 14:15 |
| shtylman | Riddell: I ran through an install front to back last night just to make sure it worked and try some of the features. Everything installed and autologin was sucessful | 14:20 |
| Riddell | shtylman: excellent! | 14:21 |
| Riddell | freeflying: shouldn't baidu be included with the KDE search providors? | 14:22 |
| seele | is ubuntu using clutter for anything in jaunty? | 14:30 |
| Riddell | netbook-launcher is on hte netbook remix | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: Pitti approved another SRU of mine in one bug, but the debdiff I attached also fixes another bug. (which has all the good SRU stuff too) Did his first confirmation also count as an ACK for the second bug or will I need to get a separate approval of the other bug before the fix can be uploaded to proposed? | 14:48 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: what's the bug number? | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 314016 and bug 330446 is the other one | 14:52 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/314016/+text) | 14:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 330446 in kde4libs "Memory leak in kcatalog.cpp" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330446 | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | the debdiff is attached to the first one | 14:52 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: one of those bugs is for kdesdk the other for kde4libs, how can one patch fix both? | 14:55 |
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| markey | re | 15:00 |
| markey | anyone know how far the evtouch driver for touch screens is progressed, and it it's usable in ubuntu? | 15:01 |
| markey | the information on its homepage is rather thin | 15:01 |
| markey | doesn not list what models are supported, etc | 15:01 |
| markey | http://www.conan.de/touchscreen/evtouch.html | 15:02 |
| markey | someone told me that ubuntu is working on this driver, not sure how valid that is | 15:02 |
| Riddell | markey: best to ask one of the X types (bryce, tjaalton, tseliot) | 15:05 |
| markey | ok | 15:06 |
| * markey currently got General Touch screen that he needs to get working on kubuntu, but only a driver that was made for SUSE, or the the evtouch driver as an alternative | 15:08 | |
| markey | whatever works | 15:08 |
| markey | General Touch is the company, from china | 15:08 |
| markey | the SUSE driver even kinda works, minus some calibration issues | 15:09 |
| markey | calibrating the thing is hard | 15:09 |
| freeflying | Riddell: it should be :) | 15:10 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: oops, I uploaded the wrong source package | 15:15 |
| * JontheEchidna will take care of it after he gets back | 15:15 | |
| Riddell | "jaunty lpia Successfully built (NEW)" | 15:26 |
| Riddell | rgreening: qt4-x11 success! | 15:26 |
| rgreening | :) | 15:26 |
| rgreening | yay. so, Riddell, now we need the kdebindings patch for smoke and then all of KDE should be able to be rebuilt on Qt 4.5.0 | 15:27 |
| Riddell | rgreening: I put that in bzr | 15:28 |
| Riddell | but I havn't compiled it or uploaded it since there's the python issue | 15:28 |
| rgreening | cool. so, I gues that can/should be promoted | 15:28 |
| rgreening | oh. | 15:28 |
| rgreening | I'll get the bzr branch and have a look. what issue did you see/find | 15:28 |
| rgreening | Riddell: is the python issue in kdebindings or due to a new python? or something else? | 15:31 |
| Riddell | both I expect | 15:34 |
| Riddell | I didn't see any issue, others were talking about it yesterday | 15:34 |
| rgreening | Riddell: we should consider this kde bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169772 | 15:35 |
| Riddell | it probably needs python-qt4 looked at first | 15:35 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 169772 in general "KDM oxygen default theme "scale" error" [Normal,New] | 15:35 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ^ I have this issue on two of my systems. Acer One and Aspire 6930. | 15:35 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I'll look at rebuilding python-qt, and then kdebindings. I'll upload to my PPA. | 15:36 |
| rgreening | Riddell: this is LP bug 259181 | 15:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 259181 in kdebase "KDM background image not displayed correctly on low resolution display" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259181 | 15:37 |
| Riddell | rgreening: grep this for python http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/02/19/%23kubuntu-devel.html | 15:38 |
| rgreening | ok. | 15:38 |
| rgreening | what do you think about the bug above Riddell | 15:38 |
| Riddell | I'm all for having it fixed | 15:38 |
| Riddell | rgreening: if you see the problem you're probably best placed to confirm the fix though | 15:39 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 259181 is the same bug | 15:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 259181 in kdebase "KDM background image not displayed correctly on low resolution display" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259181 | 15:40 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, I love comment 13 | 15:40 |
| rgreening | I can test/apply the fix. THe issue is that on 4/3 its stretched the other way, but its less ugly than seeing screen corruption | 15:41 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: bug 314016 now has the correct source package attached | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 314016 in kde4libs "Kate is useless for editing code which contains hebrew or arabic" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/314016 | 15:41 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: "Yes" | 15:42 |
| rgreening | lol | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | Exactly :P | 15:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I wonder what sort of activity Kubuntu packages will see for the bugjam | 15:45 |
| rgreening | brb. rb testing kdmgreet | 15:46 |
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| Riddell | JontheEchidna: a debdiff is usually easier to read than attaching the .diff.gz | 15:50 |
| rgreening | Riddell, JontheEchidna: setting to 100%x100% works on my Aspire WS. Will test on a 4x3 display now too. | 16:04 |
| Riddell | rgreening: going to put the patch into bzr? | 16:36 |
| Riddell | fabo: did you see what I did with phonon and qt 4.5? | 16:37 |
| rgreening | Riddell: for kdebase-workspace (kdmgreet)? sure. I'm just ensuring there isn't a better way to do this first. | 17:01 |
| cbr | is qt 4.5 out? | 17:04 |
| Riddell | cbr: ask Qt? | 17:08 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: It didn't worked :< | 17:16 |
| Riddell | NCommander: please pimp up build score https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kdepimlibs/4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 | 17:17 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Have I poked you about my package in REVU? | 17:18 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: I don't believe you have | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: poke, I think I've fixed it | 17:19 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what package? what URL? | 17:22 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widger-klicker | 17:23 |
| Riddell | humph, HTML5 video works but only using the phonon gstreamer backend | 17:27 |
| JontheEchidna | meh, gstreamer is the sucky backend too | 17:31 |
| rgreening | Riddell: can we setup phonon prefs to use gstreamer for that only and xine by default for everything else? | 17:33 |
| Riddell | I doubt it | 17:38 |
| rgreening | too bad. | 17:39 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: advocated! | 17:39 |
| Quintasan | Good to hear, thanks :3 | 17:40 |
| fabo | Riddell: no, i didn't see your changes for phonon/Qt. I'll look. | 17:42 |
| Riddell | fabo: I made it use -phonon and -no-phonon-backend and then removed the libphonon before the packaging happens | 17:44 |
| Riddell | fabo: that seems to be the only way to get it to build and using the system phonon | 17:44 |
| seele | karmic koala huh? | 17:45 |
| seele | i didnt know there were koalas in india or buddists in australia | 17:45 |
| seele | :D | 17:45 |
| Riddell | ooh that got announced did it? | 17:47 |
| seele | it did | 17:51 |
| seele | as did UDS | 17:51 |
| Riddell | looks like they dropped the brainstorm idea for UDS applicants | 17:51 |
| rgreening | Riddell: can you test Lancelot menu under Qt4.5? Applications aren't showing up for me. | 17:52 |
| rgreening | why does Karmic Koala make me want to breat out into a Boy George song... | 17:53 |
| rgreening | Kar-ma Kar-ma Ko-a-la-a, she comes and goes.... | 17:54 |
| seele | it reminds me of a karmacoma from massive attack | 17:55 |
| nixternal | rgreening: you didn't just do that did you? :p | 17:55 |
| rgreening | yup | 17:56 |
| rgreening | now I cant get it out of my head | 17:56 |
| nixternal | ya, I hope I don't start singing that now | 17:56 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: I can't see them also | 17:57 |
| Quintasan | (Applications in Lancelot) | 17:58 |
| rgreening | Riddell: we'll have to go over the plasma applets. see what is broken. and backport fixes. | 17:58 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: Lancelot is fixed in trunk (I think) | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: I also installed all applets available in repos and they worked for me | 18:01 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: care to make a diff/patch and test it out? | 18:01 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: dunno if I can do it | 18:01 |
| rgreening | lol | 18:01 |
| rgreening | :) | 18:02 |
| Quintasan | but I'll try :P | 18:02 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: ^^ | 18:02 |
| rgreening | maybe JontheEchidnacan help | 18:02 |
| JontheEchidna | shouldn't be too hard to do as long as we can find the actual patch | 18:03 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Before a kdebindings upload is going to work there's underlying python stuff that needs rebuilt. | 18:14 |
| jussi01 | !9.04 | 18:16 |
| ubottu | Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support. | 18:16 |
| jussi01 | crap, wrong place. | 18:16 |
| seele | ugh.. what an unproductive day. i havent managed to get any work, homework, reading, or open source stuff done | 18:20 |
| jussi01 | seele: call it a "rest" :D | 18:22 |
| ScottK | I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it wasn't very restful either. | 18:22 |
| Quintasan | hmm can we use patches from gentoo? | 18:23 |
| ScottK | If they are appropriately licensed | 18:24 |
| ScottK | Generally I doubt that's a problem. | 18:24 |
| Quintasan | Hmm I've also found patches for kdm to fix the crash with Qt 4.5 | 18:26 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/kde-base/kdeplasma-addons/files/lancelot-qt45.patch?view=markup | 18:27 |
| seele | yeah.. not very relaxing when you try to get stuff done and you dont | 18:27 |
| DaSkreech | Did I miss the karmic talk already? | 18:27 |
| JontheEchidna | the patch was most likely pulled from trunk anyway, I doubt there'd be any problems | 18:27 |
| Sput | also, hwoarang can be found in #gentoo-kde if there are questions :) | 18:29 |
| maco | JontheEchidna: ScottK says to talk to you regarding bugs | 18:30 |
| maco | because he doesn't know C++ | 18:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I'm no C++ expert either :P | 18:31 |
| JontheEchidna | I do know a bit about bugs though | 18:32 |
| maco | kmail crashes when i try to set my encryption key. gdb says "no stack" | 18:32 |
| maco | right before it says "KCrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... | 18:32 |
| JontheEchidna | strange | 18:32 |
| maco | there's an assert and signal 6 (which kill -l says means abort) | 18:32 |
| rickspencer3 | davidbarth: ping | 18:32 |
| davidbarth | rickspencer3: hey | 18:33 |
| rickspencer3 | sweet | 18:33 |
| maco | do Q_ASSERT()'s send abort signals? | 18:33 |
| JontheEchidna | they indicate that something's wrong. applications usually crash after that | 18:33 |
| rickspencer3 | hi all | 18:34 |
| Quintasan | rickspencer3: hi there | 18:34 |
| rickspencer3 | obviously it's post feature freeze today, and you probably noticed "no Kubuntu Dx notification system" :( | 18:34 |
| maco | JontheEchidna: crashes are usually a SIGFPE or SIGSEGV though, aren't they? | 18:35 |
| rickspencer3 | I know the Dx team made a valiant effort, but almost didn't it into Ubuntu | 18:35 |
| JontheEchidna | maco: asserts can lead to those types of crashes, yes | 18:35 |
| ScottK | davidbarth: What's the appropriate venue for feedback on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD? | 18:35 |
| maco | so i'm kind of wondering why it's abort. and why the assert's failing. | 18:36 |
| DaSkreech | rickspencer3: 6 month schedules are tight | 18:37 |
| JontheEchidna | it basically means that the app couldn't recover from the error and it's gonna crash | 18:37 |
| ScottK | DaSkreech: There still isn't any consensus in the Kubuntu community that these changes are wanted. | 18:37 |
| rickspencer3 | well, since we have another six months until the next Feature Freeze, I thought we might want to set a time to chat with the Dx team regarding how to work together to approach the next release | 18:38 |
| davidbarth | ScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD/Comments | 18:38 |
| ScottK | davidbarth: Thanks. | 18:38 |
| DaSkreech | ScottK: I thought the basic consensus was that we didn't really | 18:38 |
| davidbarth | ScottK: and you can also email the notify-osd-developers on LP | 18:38 |
| * DaSkreech watches ScottK's notify light up | 18:39 | |
| DaSkreech | rickspencer3: It got into Ubuntu ? | 18:39 |
| rickspencer3 | DaSkreech: If you are on the very latest | 18:39 |
| DaSkreech | Ok :0 | 18:40 |
| rickspencer3 | otherwise, it will be in the next alpha | 18:40 |
| rickspencer3 | DaSkreech: wrt consensus, I think the consensus was that the Dx team and the Kubuntu community should work together on notifications | 18:41 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: How should I add this patch to kdeplasma-addons? quilt or something else? | 18:41 |
| JontheEchidna | quilt, yeah | 18:41 |
| DaSkreech | rickspencer3: Agreed | 18:41 |
| DaSkreech | Makes no sense to have teams fighting | 18:42 |
| Quintasan | I hope I won't kill the whole package :D | 18:42 |
| DaSkreech | Just as ScottK said maybe not quite the notificatons that were suggested | 18:42 |
| rickspencer3 | I think this isn't a great time, but next week we should discuss the best way to join forces and do an awesome job for the next release | 18:43 |
| davidbarth | on the topic of consensus, and now that there is some code out, i'd like to get back to aaron's proposal to standardize the non-standard org.freedesktop.Notifications | 18:43 |
| davidbarth | ie, to shift the debate to the xdg list, and identify the parts of the notification system that can be grouped under a common umbrella | 18:44 |
| ScottK | davidbarth: I think the entire notion of removing feedback from notifications is broken. | 18:44 |
| shtylman | Riddell: do we want to skip the language step? since it is chosen during bootup? | 18:44 |
| davidbarth | and also agree that there are *different* views on the way to handle feedback | 18:45 |
| davidbarth | and that apps need to check the capabilities of the servers to make informed choices | 18:45 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: THhe kdm fix was already uploaded :) | 18:45 |
| ScottK | davidbarth: I think it is very premature to be listing any KDE apps on a 'should modify' list. | 18:45 |
| DaSkreech | rickspencer3: \o/ | 18:46 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: to your ppa or to main? | 18:46 |
| Quintasan | because It still crashes for me >_< | 18:46 |
| rickspencer3 | maybe we can hop into your next meeting to discuss a little? | 18:47 |
| davidbarth | ScottK: i'm not here to add to this debate really, i'm mostly here to say that i regret to not have had the time to propose any concrete code for kubuntu | 18:47 |
| ScottK | davidbarth: It probably won't suprise you to find that I'm pleased with the outcome. Hopefully in the next iteration we can have a more sane design. | 18:48 |
| davidbarth | ScottK: ;) | 18:48 |
| davidbarth | Scott: no, i'm not surprised ;) | 18:48 |
| DaSkreech | rickspencer3: are you just teasing us with the Koala being none brown? :) | 18:51 |
| DaSkreech | If there is any discussion I'd like to have on fd.o it's DMs why can't I choose any DM and still be allowed to shut down the computer or switch users | 18:52 |
| davidbarth | DaSkreech: do you have a pointer to the issue (bug or URL)? | 18:56 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm? | 18:56 |
| Tm_T | 2054.56 < cumulus007> you have made a great job on kubuntu 9.04 | 18:56 |
| DaSkreech | No it's pretty simple | 18:56 |
| seele | DaSkreech: i dont think that's really enough information to be very helpful | 18:59 |
| DaSkreech | seele: ha ha | 18:59 |
| * seele missed the joke. | 18:59 | |
| shtylman | when are the next disk images sceduled for release? | 19:01 |
| ScottK | shtylman: Next week. | 19:03 |
| shtylman | ScottK: thanks | 19:03 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: should be in main... | 19:07 |
| rgreening | rev 0ubuntu6 | 19:07 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=0&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 0 | 19:07 |
| rgreening | no bot, I wasnt talkin to you :) | 19:08 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: ok, I'll check it | 19:09 |
| Quintasan | hmm rev 0ubuntu5 here :P | 19:14 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=0&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 0 | 19:14 |
| rgreening | hmm.. Riddell posted it AFAIK. | 19:16 |
| rgreening | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kdebase-workspace Quintasan | 19:18 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 19:19 |
| rgreening | so, it may just not be available in the repo yet. | 19:19 |
| rgreening | you looking at main archive | 19:19 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: thanks, I can wait only ^^ | 19:20 |
| Quintasan | quilt patches should sit in debian/patches? | 19:21 |
| JontheEchidna | quick guide to quilt: | 19:21 |
| JontheEchidna | ln -s debian/patches patches | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | quilt push -a | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | quilt new my_lovely_patch.diff | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | quilt add filesaffected | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | patch -p0 < mypatch.diff | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | quilt refresh | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | quilt pop -a | 19:22 |
| JontheEchidna | rm patches | 19:22 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: Oh, thanks :D | 19:23 |
| JontheEchidna | I need to wiki that | 19:23 |
| cumulus007 | hey there | 19:24 |
| cumulus007 | I got some problems with KPackageKit | 19:24 |
| cumulus007 | it won't let me search in the repos, the search button is greyed out | 19:25 |
| JontheEchidna | got packagekit installed? | 19:25 |
| DaSkreech | :-D | 19:25 |
| cumulus007 | I can't update too, a error dialog appears and says: Authentication failed | 19:25 |
| cumulus007 | JontheEchidna: I think so | 19:26 |
| cumulus007 | Í can open it in System Settings | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | not kpackagekit, the "packagekit" package | 19:26 |
| FFForever | How do i delete all of ubuntu an just leave kubuntu? | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | FFForever: I can answer your question in #kubuntu. This channel isn't really for user support :-) | 19:26 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: really, why the packagekit package is not pulled as a dependency of kpackagekit? | 19:28 |
| cumulus007 | JontheEchidna: it wasn't installed | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: bug :P | 19:28 |
| cumulus007 | I don't understand why it's not installed by default? | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | it's a bug | 19:28 |
| cumulus007 | oh | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 327787 in fact | 19:28 |
| cumulus007 | sorry, read it above | 19:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 327787 in kpackagekit "Kpackagekit should depend on packagekit to be useful" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/327787 | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I think that it's gonna be taken care of next update, if I heard Tonio correctly | 19:29 |
| DaSkreech | JontheEchidna: Damn you :-P | 19:29 |
| JontheEchidna | hehe | 19:29 |
| cumulus007 | JontheEchidna: I got to contact you about a bug :P | 19:30 |
| nixternal | hey, tonight Ubuntu Chicago is kicking off the bug jam...anyone have a solid list of bugs that would be great to use for us tonight and tomorrow? | 19:30 |
| nixternal | 24 hours of bug jamming! | 19:30 |
| cumulus007 | a error dialog says that | 19:30 |
| cumulus007 | The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! | 19:30 |
| cumulus007 | A problem that we were not expecting has occurred. | 19:30 |
| cumulus007 | Please report this bug with the error description. | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | cumulus007: I get that myself actually.. no clue what's wrong | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I have reported it directly to the kpackagekit people though | 19:30 |
| cumulus007 | okay | 19:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I might be able to find a link in a bit | 19:31 |
| JontheEchidna | http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19953 | 19:32 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 19953 in General "KPackageKit fails searching for Dolphin" [Normal,New] | 19:32 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Woot | 19:32 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: these all need upstream bug reports https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bugs?search=Search&field.status_upstream=hide_upstream | 19:33 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: rock on dude, I will use that tonight and get the ChiKago dudes off and running | 19:33 |
| nixternal | and dudettes | 19:33 |
| JontheEchidna | ;) | 19:33 |
| Quintasan | nixternal: good luck :D | 19:33 |
| nixternal | thank you | 19:33 |
| JontheEchidna | and they also need general testing for reproducibility, etc. kdepim just needs a really good triage | 19:34 |
| cumulus007 | JontheEchidna: imho, KPackageKit isn't really fast as Synaptic | 19:35 |
| cumulus007 | it takes about 2 seconds to load the details about a package | 19:35 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, I like Adept in that regard. It's nice and snappy | 19:36 |
| JontheEchidna | but I use apt-get more than anything | 19:36 |
| cumulus007 | why is KPackageKit so slow? | 19:36 |
| DaSkreech | I like Adept cause it has Debtags | 19:36 |
| cumulus007 | does it work via DBus? | 19:36 |
| DaSkreech | Me loves some debtag support | 19:37 |
| cumulus007 | debtag? | 19:37 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: ya, I am going to setup KDEPIM now on my lappy with my GMail IMAP crap | 19:37 |
| DaSkreech | cumulus007: Debian packages have tags on them to help sort out categories | 19:38 |
| cumulus007 | ah | 19:38 |
| DaSkreech | With Adept in KDE3 I could easily sort stuff by debtag | 19:38 |
| cumulus007 | like admin,games,etc.? | 19:38 |
| DaSkreech | so say all games that are not GUI | 19:38 |
| DaSkreech | or All admin packages that use Qt | 19:38 |
| JontheEchidna | Ooh, Qt update | 19:47 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna and rgreening: building kdeplasma-addons with patch :3 | 19:47 |
| JontheEchidna | 4.5! Nice! | 19:47 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: kewl | 19:47 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess that means my quick quilt guide wasn't too shabby? :P | 19:48 |
| cumulus007 | is QT 4.5 in the repos? | 19:48 |
| cumulus007 | Qt | 19:48 |
| kuaera | ~seen tonio | 19:48 |
| kubotu | tonio was last seen 4 months, 10 days, 11 hours, 13 minutes and 3 seconds ago, changing nick from tonio to Tonio_ | 19:48 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: It was VERY helpful :D | 19:48 |
| JontheEchidna | ^_^ | 19:48 |
| kuaera | O_o; Odd. I was told to seek tonio out regarding new networkmanager problems... | 19:48 |
| Quintasan | cumulus007: it is but it caused kdm break here | 19:49 |
| JontheEchidna | ~seen Tonio_ | 19:49 |
| kubotu | Tonio_ was last seen 2 hours, 45 minutes and 3 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | 19:49 |
| JontheEchidna | kuaera: ^ | 19:49 |
| cumulus007 | oh, that's a pity | 19:49 |
| kuaera | Better \o/ | 19:49 |
| cumulus007 | I want to speed up KDE a bit :D | 19:49 |
| Quintasan | The patch is in kdebase-workspace rev 0ubuntu6 which is not in main now (in my case) | 19:49 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=0&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 0 | 19:49 |
| kuaera | As far as I've read, Plasma is the greatest block with using Qt4.5 | 19:50 |
| Quintasan | kuaera: not really, it woked flawlessy here, only kdm was broken | 19:51 |
| rgreening | cumulus007: yes. Should be there (at least it's built) :) | 19:51 |
| Quintasan | lessly* | 19:51 |
| cumulus007 | whatever, I can do a new install within 20 minutes | 19:52 |
| kuaera | Quintasan: I see; should we expect Qt4.5 with KDE 4.3? | 19:52 |
| rgreening | kuaera, Quintasan: some plasmoids may behave incorrectly is the more accurate issue. KDM was another thing altogether. | 19:52 |
| cumulus007 | if my system screws up after installing Qt 4.5 | 19:52 |
| Nightrose | hmm guys when is the bugjam again? | 19:52 |
| kuaera | I usually compile qt-snapshot and compile other programs against that | 19:52 |
| rgreening | kuaera: Qt4.5 is in for us for 4.2. We'll backport fixes as necessary. | 19:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Nightrose: Today :P No idea if there's a specific time | 19:53 |
| kuaera | rgreening: Ah. | 19:53 |
| rgreening | and already have to some extent. | 19:53 |
| rgreening | :) | 19:53 |
| rgreening | right Quintasan :) got that lancelot fix? :) | 19:53 |
| Nightrose | JontheEchidna: shoot - i should probably blog on planetkde | 19:53 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: compiling | 19:53 |
| kuaera | I know that some planned KDE 4.3 features have been backported as well [that's why I'm here, actually] | 19:53 |
| Nightrose | or did someone already? | 19:53 |
| * Nightrose is not up to date on planets | 19:54 | |
| Nightrose | sorry | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think anyone has according to the Dot's feed | 19:54 |
| Nightrose | hmm ok I'll try to blog but got some other stuff to do first | 19:55 |
| Quintasan | Hmm, btw. I've done some more plasma widgets, I'll upload them to REVU when they will compile successfully here :P | 19:56 |
| JontheEchidna | first 4.5 regression: bug 332227 | 19:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332227 in kdebase-workspace "plasma crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332227 | 19:57 |
| JontheEchidna | waiting for apport to retrace is no fun :( | 19:57 |
| rgreening | which plasmoids were loaded. I know one or two that will cause a crash (Quick launch) | 19:58 |
| rgreening | needs backportiness | 19:58 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: ^^^ | 19:58 |
| rgreening | :) | 19:58 |
| JontheEchidna | not my report! You can ask him :P | 19:58 |
| JontheEchidna | if it retraces the backtrace should tell us | 19:59 |
| rgreening | I updated the bug JontheEchidna | 20:02 |
| JontheEchidna | thx | 20:02 |
| JontheEchidna | I love it when a release comes together | 20:05 |
| Quintasan | bug 1 | 20:05 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 20:05 |
| JontheEchidna | it's too big to process :P | 20:05 |
| Quintasan | brb, I'm going to check if it worked :) | 20:06 |
| * JontheEchidna cleans out Qt4 bugs fixed by 4.5 | 20:08 | |
| Quintasan | It works! | 20:09 |
| * Quintasan is proud of his work | 20:09 | |
| kuaera_ | Rargh. Wireless in Jaunty is irritating me :( | 20:10 |
| Quintasan | hmm. so what should I do? | 20:10 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: I can commit the patch to our bzr repo | 20:11 |
| JontheEchidna | you should become a kubuntu-member if you plan on doing this sort of stuff regularly ;-) | 20:11 |
| Quintasan | Oh I think I will | 20:11 |
| Quintasan | :D | 20:11 |
| JontheEchidna | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Membership | 20:11 |
| JontheEchidna | just email me the patch from debian/patches and I can get it committed | 20:12 |
| JontheEchidna | echidnaman at kubuntu dot org | 20:12 |
| JontheEchidna | I do have to fold some laundry first though | 20:12 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: sent :3 | 20:13 |
| maco | is the mini iso the same for ubuntu and kubuntu? | 20:14 |
| shtylman | so I am going through the installer and I think that we might want to disable single click = double click because on the partitioning page when you click a partition to select it, it brings up the edit window. From my pov, just clicking on something shouldn't cause an action like that...ideas? | 20:17 |
| maco | agreed. single = double confuses me | 20:18 |
| * Lure_too cannot boot his laptop due to root on lvm breakage | 20:19 | |
| maco | though i do still find kde's version of when double should be double a little odd...but anyway | 20:19 |
| nixternal | interesting...firefox on my desktop, looks like it belongs, and on my newly installed laptop, looks 1980ish | 20:21 |
| maco | firefox in kde with it set to use the qt theme for me makes the tabs draw all wrong | 20:22 |
| maco | tomboy with that setup (gtk use qt them) looks all 1980s | 20:22 |
| JontheEchidna | laundry folded | 20:28 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: shouldn't that have been on twitter and not IRC? :p | 20:28 |
| JontheEchidna | IRC is my twitter, pretty much | 20:28 |
| maco | or identi.ca | 20:29 |
| maco | since we're supposed to be all FOSS-y up in here | 20:29 |
| nixternal | oh ya | 20:30 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdeplasma-addons/ubuntu/revision/12 | 20:32 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: think you could sponsor an upload for the above? ^ | 20:33 |
| * JontheEchidna restarts for Qt 4.5 goodness | 20:33 | |
| rgreening | Quintasan: does you fix only address lancelot or other plama applets in there? like quicklaunch and quick access (if its in there) | 20:41 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: Only lancelot | 20:42 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: Quick access doesn't works? | 20:42 |
| rgreening | Check out some of the recent bug reports that have come in. I believe quick access was one culprit for crash.. can you investigate a possible fix? | 20:43 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: can you test on your system so verify is causes a crash | 20:43 |
| rgreening | as well | 20:43 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: It works, I have in on panel two times | 20:43 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: let me check quick launch | 20:44 |
| rgreening | bugs 332233 | 20:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332233 in kdebase-workspace "Plasma does not launch when using Qt 4.5 rc1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332233 | 20:44 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: quicklaunch is the culprit | 20:44 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: just killed my plasma :D | 20:45 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: ok, can you look at that bug and confirm with the user? an see if you can get a patch? | 20:45 |
| rgreening | I'll commit to bzr for you. | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: sure, I'll try | 20:45 |
| shtylman | rgreening: new qt/kde packages ready? are they in main? and should I update? | 20:46 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: I believe that one is part of kdebase-workspace | 20:46 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: yup | 20:46 |
| rgreening | shtylman: they are uploaded/built. so yes, if you see them in the arc/repo do so. | 20:47 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: cool. If/when you apply for kubuntu member +1 from me :) | 20:47 |
| shtylman | k, will do | 20:47 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-commits&m=123410440808173&w=2 | 20:47 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: this propably will work :3 | 20:47 |
| rgreening | cool. testbuild and let me know :) | 20:48 |
| rgreening | do you need some assistance with figuring out that part Quintasan, or are you good to go? | 20:49 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: the patch he posted doesnt looks like diff and I'm not sure how to put it | 20:51 |
| DaSkreech | I've had quickaccess crash plasma but just once and I blame the knotify | 20:53 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: this is diff from rev 923291 to 923292 right? | 20:57 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=923291&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 923291 | Fix logic in buildDirectory(), managed to screw up the isEmpty-check right at the start, causing the method to never return t... | 20:57 |
| Quintasan | nvm, got diff :3 | 20:58 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: cool. | 20:58 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: email roderick.greening AT gmail.com whne you have a patch for me. | 20:58 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: you migh also want to check and see if you can find any others in workspace that may need backporting so we do it in one shot. | 20:59 |
| rgreening | it would be appreciated. | 20:59 |
| rgreening | I'll be back in an hour or so.. gotta shovel some snow. | 21:00 |
| DaSkreech | Snow? what's that | 21:03 |
| Quintasan | lol | 21:03 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, network problems ftl | 21:17 |
| JontheEchidna | Qt 4.5 is quite snappy | 21:17 |
| * DaSkreech tries to figure out if those two statements should be tied togetehr | 21:18 | |
| JontheEchidna | The fonts look nicer. The subpixel hinting actually works | 21:23 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: Should I add something to changelog? I see only you, Riddell and apachelogger there :D | 21:24 |
| Quintasan | oh crap, rgreening asked me to fix quicklaunch :P | 21:25 |
| JontheEchidna | I assume you have a gpg key and all that good stuff? | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | yes | 21:28 |
| DaSkreech | hi hunger | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: Could you check my packages on REVU? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/u/quintasan | 21:29 |
| JontheEchidna | Sure. You'll probably need a Feature Freeze exception if you want them in Jaunty, though | 21:30 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm, there's two flickr widgets on kde-look | 21:32 |
| JontheEchidna | how annoying | 21:32 |
| JontheEchidna | We already have one of them packaged | 21:32 |
| JontheEchidna | I could revu them but without a Feature Freeze exception I couldn't really do anything else | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: oh, that flickr is the "wasted effort", I did it while there was a plasmoid to plasma-widget rename :P | 21:35 |
| JontheEchidna | aah | 21:35 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Hmmm... About the logo overlapping the ``home'', Is this a new problem (aka, did someone change the theme?) I'll increase the min-width and start poking the sysadmins with the fix... | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: Ok, I'm just doing it for pratice, I can always put it in my PPA :P | 21:35 |
| JontheEchidna | there's an interesting 1-pixel gap on the right side of my panel | 21:36 |
| JontheEchidna | an a 1 pixel line gap in the task manager items when hovered | 21:38 |
| JontheEchidna | I think it's a known upstream issue though | 21:38 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: You around? It looks like we'll finally get Kubuntu 8.04.2 out the door later today and we'll need an announcement on the web site. | 21:44 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: Sure, is it already drafted up? | 21:45 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Kubuntu/ReleaseAnnouncement.2 should get copied onto the web site somwhere. | 21:45 |
| ScottK | The we need a couple of sentences and a link on the news item. | 21:46 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: Okies | 21:46 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 21:46 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ | 21:46 |
| ScottK | Prnt Scrn started bringing up Ksnapshot. I wonder if I got that with 4.1.4 (Haven't tried it recently). | 21:49 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I needed to set it up manually since it didnt work by default in alpha 4 | 21:50 |
| Quintasan | aarrgh | 21:56 |
| Quintasan | I hate flash | 21:56 |
| JontheEchidna | Awesome! Pure Qt apps now use KDE's color scheme | 21:58 |
| shtylman | JontheEchidna: with qt 4.5? | 22:01 |
| JontheEchidna | Yes | 22:01 |
| Quintasan | workspace takes so long to build | 22:04 |
| JontheEchidna | Karmic Koala? lulz | 22:06 |
| hunger | Hey, kde 4.2 is starting to tickle into intrepid! | 22:08 |
| Sput | hm, my Qt apps have always used the KDE color scheme | 22:09 |
| shtylman | ...so the koala believes in karma?? | 22:09 |
| Quintasan | hmm anyone using gnash? | 22:15 |
| Quintasan | Whats those bars in irssi (using ubuntu-dark) :P | 22:38 |
| torkiano | Quintasan: here one | 23:25 |
| torkiano | Quintasan: works well for a lot of sites | 23:26 |
| JontheEchidna | Arora is pretty good with Qt 4.5 | 23:32 |
| picatchu | Hi all! Anyone experienced khotkeys problems lately? Mine are no longer working after some upgrades today (intrepid). | 23:43 |
| ryanakca | Riddell, Nightrose: got rid of the discover.kde.org link. | 23:51 |
| Nightrose | thx ryanakca :) | 23:51 |
| Nightrose | JontheEchidna: stop flooding my inbox!!! | 23:53 |
| Nightrose | :P | 23:53 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, kdepim? | 23:53 |
| Nightrose | jep jep | 23:53 |
| Nightrose | kubotu: order cookies for JontheEchidna | 23:53 |
| * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to JontheEchidna. | 23:53 | |
| JontheEchidna | ^_^ | 23:53 |
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