/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/02/20/#kubuntu.txt

StR|Sangrealwhat is the use of the second button on the window header?00:00
peachesany way to refresh the K Menu? i have some old crap there from hardy that is no longer relevant just as broken menu apps00:00
StR|Sangreal(a switchable circle in my case)00:00
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: It's a pin00:01
StR|Sangrealwhat for?00:01
DaSkreechIt will stick the window so it turns up on all desktops00:01
StR|Sangrealaha00:01
DaSkreechif you press it then switch to a new desktop the window exists there as well00:01
StR|Sangrealunderstood, thx00:01
olskolircwhat is the repository link that I would need to upgrade my kde from kde 4.1 to kde 4.2 stable00:01
DaSkreecholskolirc: It's in the topic00:01
olskolircsorry and thanks00:02
LuijaDaSkreech00:02
Luijait has an error00:02
DaSkreechLuija:00:02
Luijaalread restared00:02
* DaSkreech wonders if he should just make Luija install it the easy way00:03
* DaSkreech waves00:04
Luijahow i can DaSkreech?00:05
DaSkreechLuija: The easy way is to install kubuntu-restricted-extras00:07
DaSkreechThat installs a whole lot of rubbish but it installs basically all the stuff you need00:07
Luijatell me how then :)00:07
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras00:07
DaSkreechClose firefox00:08
AndySpainand when I have varios user sasseion in parallel I can swtich between them clicking on switch user. But sometimes, if one of the ouser logs out, I can only open a new session on ligin screen, and only from there i can get to the other active session00:08
AndySpainso one must always be aborted in order to shutdown00:08
Luijaand what rubbish it installs?00:08
chris-rc1hi00:09
DaSkreechall manner of things restricted00:09
DaSkreech!hi00:09
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:09
Luijarestrited...? lol00:09
chris-rc1the hdd usage plasmoid shows different values for free disk space than df. anybody know why?00:09
LuijaDaSkreech, what class of rubbish things?00:11
ActionParsnip1chris-rc1: is it wildly different or are we talking a few Mb ?00:12
chris-rc1its 10 gigs of for /home00:12
tuxione of my mounts has 44G available according to df -h but the widget shows 67.3 GiB00:13
cjaeanyone here using separate x screens with kde 4.2 (nvidia-settings)? I tried to do it awhile ago and would only work with twinview00:13
essialWhoever designed the kde 4.x default theme deserves a medal00:14
tuxicjae I only use twinview00:14
cjaetuxi: ya I even tried using an old hand edited xorg and all I could get is a balck screen on tv out, and the xorg.conf worked in all other distros b400:15
cjaeblack00:15
tuxiI haven't tried TV out00:16
tuxiI run an external monitor via KVM so twinview is what fits my bill00:16
olskolirccan someone say my name please?00:16
cjaedo your windows open on the proper screens?00:17
ActionParsnip1olskolirc:00:17
cjaeolskolirc:00:17
olskolircty00:17
ActionParsnip1olskolirc:00:17
chris-rc1tuxi: how big is this partition?00:17
DaSkreechos00:17
DaSkreecholskolirc:00:17
tuxitwinview is a duplicate00:17
cjaeno thats xineramam00:17
tuxichris-rc1 113G according to df -h00:17
ActionParsnip1chris-rc1: is it accurate after a reboot?00:17
cjae-m00:18
cjaebrb00:18
chris-rc1ActionParsnip1: i don't think so00:18
chris-rc1got this from #kde00:18
chris-rc1Plasmoid is not taking into account the reserve space for root.00:19
chris-rc15% is the default for Debian.00:19
ActionParsnip1chris-rc1: possibly, i'd create a bug report00:19
chris-rc1ActionParsnip1: silly question, but how do i do this?00:19
chris-rc1tuxi: so your partition is just 113 gigs in size?00:20
ActionParsnip1!bug00:20
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots00:20
tuxithat partition is, yes00:20
ActionParsnip1113Gb is bigger than this systems drive00:21
tuxiI have one drive that is virtually empty 232G total with 220G free by df, 230.9 GiB from the plasmoid00:21
tuxi230.9 GiB available, that is00:21
tuxichris-rc1, pm?00:22
chris-rc1tuxi: pm?00:24
tuxipm == private message00:24
amgarching230*1000/1024 == 22400:24
tuxiI'll post a screenshot with all the info00:25
chris-rc1amgarching: why that?00:25
StR|Sangrealcan i setup optacity for widgets?00:25
chris-rc1they don't use 1000, do they?00:25
chris-rc1tuxi: sounds like 5% to me00:26
amgarchingrather 230*1000000/1024/1024 = 219, GiB /= GB00:26
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tuxichris-rc1 a screenshot is at http://ripabe.net/misc/df_v_hdd_plasmoid.png00:29
chris-rc1amgarching: so you are saying the plasmoid use a multiplier of 1000?00:29
tuxigibibytes versus gigabytes doesn't explain it00:29
amgarchingGiB is new and confusing, right00:30
drostiechris-rc1: quite the opposite. Linux in general uses the convention 1 MB = 1000000B.00:30
drostieHowever, anything that reports "MiB" is reporting mebibytes, not megabytes.00:30
drostie1 MiB = 1048576 B.00:30
drostieThis is around 5% larger, which might explain a ~5% discrepancy directly.00:31
tuxiusing df, -h is human readable but -H or --si uses powers of 10 (instead of two)00:31
tuxido a "man df"00:31
chris-rc1ok, as far as i know linux in general uses 1024, just called it mega (like any other os/app). now they just (finally) changed the denomination00:31
tuxiand the plasmoid reports higher values making it a bug imho00:32
tuxichris-rc1, if you post the bug, feel free to copy my screenshot00:32
chris-rc1i agree with tuxi, why would there be an -H option otherwise00:32
tuxiexactly00:32
chris-rc1tuxi: ok00:32
tuxibbl00:33
drostieOkay. I think I can agree with both of you after checking it out for myself, because I have also a fat32-formatted iPod, which seems to report the same in both df and the plasmoid.00:35
DaSkreechhi Ramblurr00:37
drostieThe magnitude of the error for me is 4.9% +/- 0.4%00:37
drostieThe 5% as reserved blocks makes some sense.00:38
tuximine is almost 10%00:39
tuxiand depends on which of the two reports I appear to get in the plasmoid00:39
tuxiI actually have a twist -- two similarly named mount points x 300:40
drostieWell, some twists matter and some twists don't. The plasmoid says that it displays the disk usage of "root" (rather than the actual partition, which is in /dev/mapper). This might presumably include /media/IPOD, but it doesn't.00:43
tuximy /home has 7.5G free by df but 8.9GiB from the plasmoid (18% higher)00:43
chris-rc1thing is that this would mean that there "could" be multiplier bug in the plasmoid, so it could use 1000 instead of 1024 which would yield the same results00:43
tuxidrostie look at the configuration to see if /media/IPOD is even shown00:44
drostieIt's shown separately. I'm just wondering where the system got these names from. ^_^00:44
StR|Sangrealpls could sb advise me a package with further widgets for plasma?00:44
tuxidid you look for all plasmoid packages?00:45
LuijaDaSkreech00:45
Luijafinally i have java :)00:45
StR|Sangreali have just kdeplasma-addons installed00:45
StR|Sangrealand i am not truly contented with its possibilities00:45
tuxiare you on 4.1 or 4.2?00:45
StR|Sangrealand i would like to find sth better00:46
StR|Sangreal4.200:46
chris-rc1tuxi: so your /home is only 28 gigs?00:46
tuxi30G00:46
tuxiI have a lot of stuff on other mount points like my /shared /smb /video mount points00:46
chris-rc1tuxi: but then it fits00:47
drostieStR|Sangreal: [aptitude search plasm]00:47
chris-rc1its 5%, not 18%00:47
tuxithe over reporting is 5% of the total where I was saying it's 18% over the df reported free space00:47
DaSkreechLuija: Good job :)00:47
Luijaei DaSkreech00:48
Luijai have an easy question00:48
Luijais about wifi00:48
drostieSince Saved By The Bell, I can't take the word "screech" seriously anymore.00:48
LuijaDaSkreech: everytime i log out, or restart, the Knetwork becomes blue bars00:49
Luijaat that point all is all right00:49
drostie(Well, actually, since I found out that Dustin Diamond was in a porno video called "screeched!")00:49
StR|Sangrealthe output contains a table and the first collumn has 3 values: C, I and P00:49
StR|Sangrealwhat do they hold for?00:49
chris-rc1tuxi: but what matters is whether the difference between the two values (from the plasmoid and df) is equal to 5% of the total disk space00:49
tuxiit00:49
LuijaDaSkreech: but, when i log in, every time, i have to click in Knetwork, and choose my router: Wireless G, why is tthat if i have autoconnect??00:49
drostiesorry. It's late and I'm being way off-topic.00:49
tuxiit's close to 5%, chris-rc100:49
DaSkreechLuija: Well I think there is a current flaw in that the Wifi network connector is enabled when you login They are still trying to think that through properly00:50
Luijathats the bug true?00:50
drostieStR|Sangreal: what table are you referring to?00:50
Luijaand they r fixing that DaSkreech?00:50
DaSkreechLuija: Ideally you should just turn on the computer and it auto connects on Wifi from the last settings. Yes it's a bug they are working on00:50
Luijaok :)00:51
StR|Sangrealaptitude search00:51
tuxiStR|Sangreal i is installed00:51
Luijathey will be an actualization when that is fixed DaSkreech?00:51
drostieyeah. "i" is installed, "p" is uninstalled, and "v" means that something was installed but then removed, I believe.00:51
DaSkreech4.3 is the hope00:51
tuxiand c=?00:52
chris-rc1tuxi: bottom line is that we still don't know whether it is 5% reserved space or it comes from the multiplier unless we calculate it "exactly" or sb actually knows their reserved space (preferably sth other that 5%)00:53
drostie[man aptitude] sayeth: p means there is no trace of the package, c means the package is deleted but the conffiles are still around, i means that the package is installed, v, in fact, means that the package is virtual.00:53
tuxidrostie, ty (duh shoulda done a man aptitude myself)00:53
badpcare there any screensavers on kubuntu?00:54
chris-rc1tuxi: well, i'm gonna file a bug report first thing in the morning. after all, the plasmoid claims to show values in GiB00:55
chris-rc1does anybody know whether the reserved space is actually usable even if not shown by df?00:55
drostiebadpc: not by default, but there's a section for them in K > System Settings > Screen Saver.00:56
badpcdrostie: are there any in the repos?00:57
drostiechris-rc1: I'm not sure you really want to. reserved space is used to automagically keep the filesystem from fragmentation.00:57
chris-rc1drostie: but once i reach the limit, is it used or automatically "locked"?00:58
badpcdrostie: good point00:58
draik_DaSkreech: I've been trying to log in and I can't. It either freezes prior to the login menu or it freezes just after entering the password, hitting enter and then during the KDE splash screen.01:00
DaSkreechdraik_: Ibex ?01:00
draik_Yes01:00
judgenHow do i set the task list in hardy to use big icons instead of tiny ones?01:01
tuxitask list?01:01
drostiechris-rc1: I don't know. Google suggests that you might still have the ability to write to it as root, but not as a normal user.01:01
drostieThe idea being that without it, you might break something "like sudo and rm", according to one ubuntuforums poster.01:02
chris-rc1thx for the info. that makes it pretty senseless to have it listed in the plasmoid (if it's the case)01:02
drostiejudger: sorry, I'm not on hardy, and the desktop environment has changed since then. :-x01:03
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drostiebadpc: [aptitude search screen] suggests packages like "kscreensaver" on jaunty; I don't know which distro you use and what's available there.01:04
chris-rc1-> bedtime01:06
chris-rc1goodnight. bug time tomorrow01:06
badpcdrostie: using jaunty01:06
judgendrostie: ofcourse it has. but i dont like kde4 yet so i have to use hardy.01:06
drostiebadpc: also, kdescreensaver-aasaver is apparently an "asciiquarium".01:07
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal: You can just drag stuff to the panel01:07
drostiejudger: I know. Not trying to guilt-trip you or anything; I'm just apologizing that I can't help.01:07
judgenok01:08
badpcdrostie: cant find any of those in jaunty?01:09
LuijaDaSkreech, could u help me to install KDE 4.2 in my kubuntu?01:10
DaSkreechLuija: Its in the topic01:10
Luijammm?01:10
Luijaohohoh found it :)01:11
drostieLuija: warning: KDE 4.2 may or may not break your computer. Just saying.01:12
Luijabreak?!01:12
essialMan Qt is awsome01:13
drostieMore properly, break your desktop environment in your computer, I suppose. It's not like it will pop out of your computer with a hammer and start smashing it to bits.01:13
essialI wrote a text editor with load/save capabilities in Qt Creator in about 2 minutes -- not a record but pretty darn close :)01:13
Melchiorroessial: nice :)01:14
essialand since 4.5 is LGPL I can make my awsome IRC client with it :)01:14
essialAnd all you closed source linux app haters can kiss my butt :p01:14
judgenessial: bitchx with a scrollable qt wndow?01:15
essialno01:15
judgenhehe01:15
essialI'm not stupid :)01:15
judgenbitchx is good01:15
essialTheres a bunch of IRC clients out there, I'm not writing a clone01:15
judgenso wat are you intending to do differently?01:16
essialFor one, making managing busy chatrooms easier01:16
essial*easier to manage when talking to multiple people01:16
drostiebadpc: they're there according to packages.ubuntu.com ... is  your sources.list okay and have you updated your package list recently?01:17
essialSSL support and such of course01:17
essialand heavy scripting support for bots and such01:17
StR|Sangrealis there sth like my favourite folder?01:17
draik_DaSkreech: I wonder what would happen if I backed up the partition and brought it back again to the 1TB01:17
essialbut first and formost I want to be able to help someone in #ubuntu and not have to dig through miles of scrolling text01:17
essialWith my client it will be simple :)01:18
judgenok01:18
DaSkreechessial: I thought that you were doing a for sale closed app?01:20
drostieis there qt for windows, or are you designing something that will only work for the linux community?01:20
judgenthere is qt for win and mac too01:20
drostieright on.01:21
draik_DaSkreech: Do you see that as being an issue?01:22
DaSkreechdraik_: Sorry waht was the issue?01:22
DaSkreechThre is Qt for *01:22
DaSkreechdraik_: Did you try and back up your ~/.kde directory ?01:23
khalidmianhave unfortunately forgotten the resolution to divx screaming video  apparently there is an ubuntu program that eanbles you to buffer? and then play using vlc or something?01:23
draik_DaSkreech: Yup. Did that and it froze when I tried to set Yakuake to 100%W and 50%H.01:23
DaSkreechdraik_: I'm guessing Yakukae for KDE4?01:24
draik_That is correct, DaSkreech01:24
XenosYakuza for KDE4? It pops out of your keyboard and takes the tip of your little finger?01:24
DaSkreechdraik_: What video card do you have ?01:24
draik_nVidia GeForce 5700LE01:25
DaSkreechXenos: If you press F12 yes :)01:25
draik_DaSkreech: I had a 500GB with XP on part1 and Kubuntu on part2. I then got the 1TB and xfer'd the Kubuntu to the 1TB, then gave 500GB all to XP. It stopped working once I xfer'd the part.01:27
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DaSkreechhow did you transfer?01:28
draik_Norton Ghost. 1-to-1 copy.01:29
DaSkreechOh That should work I suppose01:31
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khalidmianHI looking for help on something pls01:32
draik_It should, and technically it does, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the HDD change and also the fact that it keeps on referring the HDD space as being the same as opposed to the 1TB.01:32
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DaSkreechdraik_: Really Hmm how are you getting that output?01:37
khalidmianhow can one watch divx streaming videos in kubuntu/ubuntu01:37
DaSkreechdraik_: can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l and the contents of /etc/fstab ?01:37
khalidcomo puedo desnstalar a compiz fusion de ubuntu 8.0401:37
DaSkreechkhalidmian: install Divx codecs01:37
DaSkreech!es01:37
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:37
khalidmianDaSkreech: I DID01:38
khalidmianDaSkreech: still cant watch streaming video01:38
DaSkreechOk where are you streaming the videos from?01:38
khalidok gracias01:38
draik_DaSkreech: I'll try. I haven't been able to access TTY again.01:42
badpchow do i install screensavers in jaunty?01:44
DaSkreechThere is probably a kscreensavers package01:46
khalidmianDaSkreech: http://www.movshare.net/video/19avoytywbs6p#01:46
badpcDaSkreech: tried typing everything in adept and nothing comes up01:47
drostiebadpc: try the adept manager rather than the adept installer.01:49
drostieK > Applications > System > Adept Manager01:49
draik_DaSkreech: It keeps on freezing prior to the login.01:49
essialI don't have screensavers nor can I find any in adept personally01:50
essialbut blank screen is fine for me01:50
draik_GOT IT! DaSkreech01:53
draik_What is the pastebin command in CLI?01:54
khalidmiando i need mplayerrr to play divx?01:54
khalidmiancant vlc do the same trick?01:54
DaSkreechpastebinint01:54
draik_Got it01:54
Alex135!mp3|khalidmian01:54
ubottukhalidmian: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:54
DaSkreechyes mplayer can I used to use kmplayer to stream divx stuff01:54
draik_DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/f4438da5501:55
draik_That is my sudo fdisk -l01:55
draik_DaSkreech: How do I get the contents of /etc/fstab to pastebinit?01:55
DaSkreechcat file | pastebininit01:55
DaSkreechspelt properly01:56
draik_:)01:56
draik_http://pastebin.com/f7ba5e0301:56
draik_fstab is wrong!01:57
draik_DaSkreech: What would happen if I manually edited fstab?01:58
DaSkreechdraik_: That's what I thought was the problem01:58
DaSkreechThen it would probably work01:58
drostiedude, one of the opengl kde screensavers is a cow on a trampoline.01:58
draik_Actually, not manually, but how can I myself (if not a command already) fix fstab?01:58
khalidmianok so i got kstreamripper what and how do i use it LOL01:59
draik_DaSkreech: Is there a way to edit the contents accordingly?02:02
DaSkreechdraik_: what's the output of mount ?02:03
DaSkreechman kstreamripper khalidmian02:03
khalidmianman?02:03
draik_DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/f4f3435f102:04
Walzmynman == manual , use it in a terminal02:04
DaSkreechor in konqueror02:05
DaSkreechman:/konqueror02:05
draik_man:woman02:06
DaSkreechman:/man actually02:06
DaSkreechman:/ woman causes a segfault02:06
DaSkreechthere is no manual for woman02:06
khalidmianDaSkreech: so do i just type man:/firefox for kstreamer to work ?02:07
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drostieThat is so not true. So many relationship errors that I have seen over the years were "Dude, RTFM" type mistakes...02:07
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DaSkreechkhalidmian: You type in man:/kstreamripper02:11
khalidmianbash: man:/kstreamripper: No such file or directory02:12
DaSkreechkhalidmian: Haha No just man kstreamripper02:12
DaSkreechNo :/ in bash02:12
khalidmianbash: cd: bash: No such file or directory02:13
DaSkreechkhalidmian: What are you typing in?02:14
drostieIn other words, [man] is a program which shows you manual pages. When you are at the text prompt, you can type [man kstreamripper] (without the brackets, of course) to learn stuff.02:14
drostieNot [bash: man kstreamripper] but just [man kstreamripper].02:14
DaSkreechkhalidmian: mplayer works for me btw02:15
draik_DaSkreech: How do I find out my /dev/hd_ for my 2 DVD-ROMs?02:15
DaSkreechkhalidmian: I have the mplayer-plugin installed02:15
DaSkreechdraik_: Hmm ?02:15
DaSkreechdraik_:02:15
DaSkreechWould be in mount02:15
DaSkreech just type mount02:15
draik_OK02:15
draik_DaSkreech: Not found in mount02:16
DaSkreechare they mounted?02:16
DaSkreechof course they aren't02:16
draik_No02:16
DaSkreechfstab is messed up :)02:16
draik_This is per /etc/fstab02:16
khalidmianDaSkreech: mplayer works for kubuntu?02:16
DaSkreechdrail02:16
draik_So I should comment them out in fstab?02:16
DaSkreechdraik_: try mount /dev/dvd02:17
draik_For which one?02:17
DaSkreechkhalidmian: Sure it doesn't care02:17
draik_Cannot find /dev/dvd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:18
DaSkreechdraik_: What are you doing?02:18
draik_Setting up fstab manually02:18
draik_I can leave them commented, that's not an issue02:18
drostiedraik_: does /dev/dvd exist?02:19
draik_Nope02:20
draik_DaSkreech: Cannot find /dev/dvd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab02:20
drostieWell there's your problem :-P02:20
DaSkreechdraik_: I meant sudo mount /dev/dvd /path/to/some/dir02:20
drostiecan you get the dvd in the drive?02:20
drostieand then maybe access it somehow else?02:20
draik_It has them listed as /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd in fstab. Yeah, I can put a DVD in the drive.02:21
StR|Sangreal1hi pls how can i install WeatherBug.gg downloaded from google gadgets as a plasma widget?02:21
DaSkreechStR|Sangreal1: #kde and #plasma would be a bit more versed02:21
DaSkreech#plasma might have a direct answer02:21
draik_OK. I have a disc in the drive.02:21
draik_Do mount?02:21
StR|Sangreal1#kde is deserted :D02:22
DaSkreechkhalidmian: install mozilla-mplayer02:22
drostieYeah. You can now mount to a directory with [sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom] if /media/cdrom exists ( [sudo mkdir /media/cdrom] ).02:22
StR|Sangreal1and plasma is deserted too02:22
essialdaskreech: how do I get gameguard to play nice with linux02:22
drostieAssuming that /dev/hdc is really your dvd drive.02:22
essial(I joke.. I joke... meh)02:22
Nichodew weatherbug02:23
Nichodreally?02:23
essialstr: why would you use gameguard02:23
essialBLA i mean weatherbug02:23
draik_drostie: /dev/hdc does not exist   :(02:24
draik_How can I find out where it is on /dev?02:24
drostiedraik: /etc/fstab is just shortcuts. For example, when my usb key is in the drive, it has an /etc/fstab entry, so it will (a) automatically get mounted at boot time, if possible, to /media/cruzer, and (b) I can just mount it with [sudo mount /dev/sdb1] and it will know automatically to put it at /media/cruzer.02:25
drostieCan you get the dvd opened in Dolphin?02:25
draik_drostie: I never knew that.02:25
ubuntu__hey guys02:25
ubuntu__quick question02:25
ubuntu__how much is a good amount for swap space02:26
draik_drostie: I am not using a GUI. GUI tends to freeze. I'm on TTY102:26
draik_ubuntu__: swap = RAM02:26
draik_ubuntu__: I should rephrase that. Swap should equal the amount of RAM on your system.02:26
drostieNormal advice: 1.5 times RAM. Realistically: dunno, depends on how much memory you have and how much you load it.02:26
ubuntu__i have a 1 gb of ram i think02:27
ubuntu__would that suffice02:27
draik_Then I don't think you need swap02:27
drostieAlso, on how much disk space you have. I'm running without any swap, and I don't need it, 'cause I have 2 GB of RAM and don't multitask too hard.02:27
draik_Wouldn't hurt, but I don't think it's necessary.02:27
ubuntu__i am putting it on a 20 gb partition02:27
draik_I have 3GB RAM and no swap. it's on your usage.02:27
ubuntu__i plan on doing a little development02:28
drostieubuntu__: do you want to be able to hibernate this computer?02:28
ubuntu__sure, i want to reverse all standard funcitonality02:28
ubuntu__functionality*02:28
ubuntu__reserve*02:28
ubuntu__would 1 gb swap work?02:29
drostiethen go with something like 1.5 GB or 2 GB swap. it's safe space if you multitask, it's enough swap to hibernate to, and it's probably not critical for the rest of the space.02:29
ubuntu__ok cool02:29
ubuntu__thanks02:29
ubuntu__except to see me more on this channel02:29
ubuntu__:D02:29
drostiedraik_: okay, so, teletype cdroms. hm.02:30
* draik_ crosses his fingers. "I'm about to go into this GUI and hope the mods in /etc/fstab will stop the freezing"02:31
badpccould someone tell me what exactly the dashboard is for?02:31
ubuntu__oh hey sorry guys02:31
ubuntu__another quick question02:31
ubuntu__whatever partition i want to be the root02:31
ubuntu__would i make that primary or logical02:32
* draik_ swears profusely at the freeze!!!!02:32
drostiebadpc: just a different way to look at the current desktop layout, especially without cluttering windows.02:33
drostieubuntu__: primary, unless you have a whole lot of primary drives already.02:33
ubuntu__ok02:33
ubuntu__and ext_302:33
ubuntu__right?02:33
ubuntu__for type02:33
draik_Yes02:34
ubuntu__ok thank you02:34
drostieext4 if your kernel is new enough.02:34
draik_drostie: It is still freezing up on me. What am I missing?02:34
drostieunless it's a usb key.02:34
drostiethen ext2.02:34
DaSkreechAnd you are kinda crazy02:34
drostiedraik_: I don't know; I wasn't here at the beginning when you described the problem. What, exactly, is the problem?02:35
DaSkreechdraik_: Ok mkdir drive02:35
DaSkreechsudo mount /dev/dvd drive02:35
draik_I get into the GUI (KDE or OpenBox) and the system will freeze when I try to load an app (k3b, firefox, frostwire, etc...)02:36
DaSkreechdraik_: probably trying to get into it's settings02:36
DaSkreechdid you pastebin the output of mount ?02:36
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draik_Yes02:37
draik_http://pastebin.com/f4f3435f102:37
DaSkreechSorry I missed it02:37
DaSkreechOk no that doesn't make sense02:38
DaSkreechyou have a single partition02:38
drostieokay, draik_: I've been reading the logs above. So, you've got two drives. One has kubuntu on it, newly transferred from a drive where it worked. Correct?02:38
drostieAnd now it doesn't work, but it boots up almost everything, including the kdm and login, but then crashes *after* that?02:39
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DaSkreechdraik_: what does sf -h say ?02:40
draik_Yes, that is correct.02:40
badpcanyone know how to rip a dvd in kubumtu?02:41
drostieDo any of the lines in /etc/fstab make reference to UUIDs?02:41
DaSkreechdraik_: df -h02:41
DaSkreechdrostie: They all do02:41
draik_DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/f510c81a02:42
LuijaDaSkreech02:43
draik_DaSkreech: Should I copy back my ~/.kde from ~/.kdeBACKUP ?02:43
Luijai got a major problem02:43
Luijai am talking from windows02:43
DaSkreechHow come fdisk says 1000 Gb and df says 347Gb ?02:43
drostieAnd are the UUIDs matching the results of, e.g. [sudo blkid /dev/sda1] and so forth?02:43
draik_DaSkreech: I don't know.02:43
Luijathere is not a way to restore my KDE 4.1 DaSkreech?02:43
draik_Yes, they were all matching.02:43
DaSkreechLuija: Yeah there is what's the problem?02:44
LuijaAll resumes in 2 words DaSkreech02:44
drostiedraik: Did Norton make a complete bit-for-bit disk clone?02:44
drostieor something like it?02:45
draik_drostie: Yes02:45
DaSkreechLuija: Hmm ?02:45
LuijaBlack Screen -______-02:45
drostieWas the original drive 350 GB?02:45
DaSkreechOh resume from disk ?02:45
Luijaehh?02:45
DaSkreechWhat's black screen?02:45
draik_drostie: I also chose for it to use the rest of the unallocated space. The partition was 350GB from the 500GB.02:45
Luijaokay, got black screen02:45
Luijaafter taht02:46
Luijasome things were missing02:46
Luijaand blablabla02:46
Luijaa big problem02:46
DaSkreechHow did you get a black screen?02:46
drostieOkay. So if I had to guess, you now have an ext3 partition which *thinks* its on a 350 GB partition but is really on a 1TB partition.02:46
LuijaIt seems i  got a error of something missing02:46
drosties/its/it's02:46
draik_drostie: You got it02:46
Luijai want KDE 4.1 back, i can?02:46
DaSkreechStill oesn't explain the crashes02:46
draik_I know. :(02:47
Luijaor maybe i can just delete Kubuntu and install it again :)02:47
CybioLuija: But what did you do before you got this error?02:47
draik_DaSkreech: Anything wrong with me copying my ~/.kde backup back to ~/.kde?02:47
drostiedraik_: you still have access to all of the files for a big [sudo cp -a] action? O:-)02:47
LuijaCybio, install KDE 4.202:48
DaSkreechLuija: Sure remove the line from /etc/apt/sources.list at the bottom then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:48
Luijai should listen the guy than say me KDE could make ubuntu crash lololol02:48
draik_drostie: copy them where?02:48
LuijaDaSkreech, i cant open Konversation in kubuntu now02:48
Luijai can delete ubuntu in windows?02:48
Luijakubuntu*02:48
DaSkreechDoubtful02:49
Luija...02:49
CybioMmm :-) what ever you think is faster02:49
drostiedraik_ actually, maybe you should just first try to e2fsck it.02:49
LuijaDaSkreech, i cant just delete the kubuntu folder in the disc D, and OS will be gone?02:50
draik_drostie: Log out of KDE and use TTY1? Then run 'sudo e2fsck'?02:50
draik_Luija: Windows won't see the partition without special apps.02:50
drostiedraik_: but my idea is this: resize the main partition to ~500 GB. Create /dev/sda2, properly formatted. copy everything from /dev/sda1 to that, with the -a option set.02:50
Luijaoh my god... then what i will do...02:51
Cybio Luija has installed with Wubi02:51
DaSkreechLuija: did you install in Wubi ?02:51
Luijayep02:51
Cybioso there is in Vista a Ubuntu folder/file02:51
LuijaYES02:51
DaSkreechLuija: Go to add/remove programs and remove it02:52
Cybioyou can uninstall from the control panel02:52
draik_drostie: That's going to be an issue. I'm using the entire partition and yet it is marked as 350GB.02:52
LuijaBUT HOW02:53
Luijasrry caps02:53
Luijabut how cybio02:53
DaSkreechdrostie: Figured out why everythign crashes yet?02:53
Luijai go to delete programs02:53
Luijaand the folder dont appear02:53
CybioLuija: yes02:54
drostiebut yeah, draik_: I'm recommending that you run [sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1] and see what comes up. Maybe another option from [man e2fsck].02:54
Cybiomm02:54
Luijaoh...02:54
drostie(specifically, the -f option, to force the file check.)02:54
LuijaLOL02:54
Luijai am idiot02:54
Luijai will format the disc D :)02:54
draik_It froze while I was about to do a screenshot.02:55
drostiepossibly also the -p option, for autofixing.02:55
CybioLuija: no need i think ...02:55
Cybiojust delete the folder is OK too .... i guess :-P02:55
draik_drostie: I ran qtparted. The size says 951.51GB and 304.73GB used. It looks great there. But df -h is what keeps on saying is it back to 350GB.02:55
Luijacybio, i do a quickly format to the disc d, is that enough?02:56
Luijait has all the GBs it has originally :)02:56
drostiedraik_: and that's something wrong somewhere in your file system, so I want it fixed. ^_^02:56
Cybioif there is no other important data on there02:56
draik_drostie: I'm rebooting now. I will run the command in TTY102:56
drostiek. I don't know if it can be done while /dev/sda is mounted, so you might have to boot into a live cd to do it properly.02:57
draik_OK. NP. I will do that once I reboot again.02:57
Luijacybio, i have to asignate some GBs to install the OS02:57
Luijahow much GBs?02:58
Luijait says 1502:58
Luijabut the box says 8 is recommended :S02:58
Cybiohow big is the partition D ?02:58
Luija69.5 GBS02:58
draik_drostie: You're right BTW. It cannot be done while mounted.02:58
draik_Rebooting into LiveCD now02:58
Cybioi think 30 GB is ok ...02:59
Luijau r kidding right?02:59
drostieheh. at least this linux tool doesn't let you shoot yourself in the foot. If only all GNU tools worked that way.02:59
Cybiohehehe :-) ... just depends on what you'll be doing02:59
Luijabut the will be a big difference if a select 8 and no 15?02:59
Luijathey*02:59
Cybioi mean ... for only the software you probably have with 8GB enough03:00
Luijaok :)03:00
Cybiobut if you then go downloading DVD images then you'll have a problem03:00
drostieLuija: what's up now?03:01
Luija0_003:01
Luijaso i choose 15 then cybio?03:01
Cybioyeah ... i think thats OK03:01
drostieYou're reinstalling kubuntu?03:01
Luijahello drostie, Kubuntu crashed because a fatal error happened instaling KDE 4.303:02
Luija4.2*03:02
drostieouch.03:02
drostie4.2 works much more consistently when you install from the jaunty alpha 4 cd.03:02
Luijaso Cybio, if i dont wanna have problems downloading Dvds Isos, how much GBs i have to choose?03:02
DaSkreechBut then jaunty is unstable :)03:03
CybioLuija: depends on what else you will be doing ...03:03
drostie"unstable" is a relative term. :-P03:03
Luijacybio, i know03:03
Luijabut u say me i will have problems downloading Dvds isos03:03
drostieWe're not, like, talking "windows 95" unstable here. ^_^03:03
Luijaso how much GBs i have to choose?03:03
draik_drostie: I'm in the LiveCD now. Konsole is open and I'm ready to execute 'sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1'03:03
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Luijato not have problems Cybio :)03:04
Cybioif you then also go to download a lot of music and movies and other linux images .... this will take up a lot of GB's03:04
drostiedraik_: Lieutenant Worf: Engage!03:04
drostie^_^03:04
draik_Huh?03:04
LuijaCybio... just say me the number...03:04
drostienever mind. --_--;;03:04
draik_It finished instantly03:04
CybioLuija: ... just 15 GB is enough ...03:05
LuijaNICE03:05
Luijabut it was easy to tell me that lol03:05
drostiedraik_: try [sudo e2fsck -f /dev/sda1] to force it to do a full check.03:05
Cybio:-) Can make the partition bigger if there is need for03:05
draik_drostie: Sorry, not a Star Trek fan (just google'd it)03:05
Luijaso if i choose 15, i will not have problems downloading my music and my pirate movies cybio? lolololol03:06
CybioLuija: heheeh ... how many pirated movies and music you'll need ? :-D03:06
Luijalike 10 lolololol03:07
Luija10 movies03:07
Luijaand 200 songs lolololol03:07
Luijaforget it, i will use a holy SD03:07
Luijaokay Cybio, i choosed 15, but if there is low GBs, the OS will go slow or not?03:07
drostieremember kiddies, this forum is publicly logged. ^_^03:08
CybioLuija: Not really ... downloads will just stop working ...03:08
Cybioprograms like firefox won't start or you'll won't be getting into KDE :-P03:09
Cybioif there is no disk space left03:09
LuijaLOL WTF, then why I choose 15???!!!03:09
Luijathen 8 was right............03:09
khalid buieno yo tingo una problema en copiz fusion no si qu hecho en los butones que hay en gestion de compiz fusion de pronto mi sale la pantalla blanca y no se ve nada de nada que tingo que a ser por favor03:09
Cybiohehehe03:09
Cybiojust depends on what you want03:10
Luijai was joking about the 200 songs and movies LOL03:10
drostie!es | khalid03:10
ubottukhalid: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:10
Cybiojust keep track on what the disk space is left03:10
LuijaCybio, decide, i will not be downloading dvds or movies constantly03:11
Luijaand i have all my music in my SD03:11
Luijaso 8 Gbs (recommended by box) or 15?03:11
Luijaor 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 or 1303:11
Luijalololol03:11
drostieLuija: just flip a coin, choose a number, go with it, and stop pattering around.03:11
drostieIt really doesn't matter if you're not going to fill it up.03:12
Luijadont be so rude with my, y am a newbie T_T03:12
Luijame*03:12
LuijaI*03:12
khalidI buieno Tingo a problem in fusion copiz if not in fact what buton is on managing compiz fusion suddenly my screen goes white and is not a thing to be that Tingo please03:12
CybioMaybe, later when you are more familiar with Linux, you might want to have a "real" Kubuntu :-P ... instead of inside Vista :-)03:13
Luijawhats that of a real kubuntu03:13
Luijabecause i can install without wubi03:13
Cybioheeheh  kidding03:13
Luijaif it is better03:13
khalidI buieno Tingo a problem in fusion copiz if not in fact what buton is on managing compiz fusion suddenly my screen goes white and is not a thing to be that Tingo please03:13
Luijabueno hijo de su concha madre, vaya a kubuntu es :)03:14
Cybioi mean ... you also can start the PC from the LiveCD instead of running inside Vista03:14
LuijaLOL bromeo03:14
Luijabut i will have to be changing CDs everytime lol03:14
Luijaso say me, what is better, wubi or text mode?03:15
CybioLuija: for you maybe it is better to get more familiar with Kubuntu/linux first03:15
Luijacybio, the thing i really want03:16
Cybioand choose to install inside Vista ... because you always can fall back on that03:16
Luijais to administrate my PC COMPLETELY from Kubuntu03:16
Luijaso i dont wanna be changing to vista for changing grub03:16
Luijaand etc03:16
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CybioThe you'll need to install from a booted CD03:17
Luijaso there is a real way to make Kubuntu indepent from Vista?03:17
LuijaBooted?03:17
CybioLuija: ... yes03:17
draik_drostie: Should it take this long?03:17
draik_It is still on Pass 1.03:17
Luijathen where i can download this Booted CD?03:18
Luijai will need the CD always on the CD room for the OS to start Cybio?03:18
CybioLuija: you can start the pc from booting from HD or from CD03:18
Luijaand whats better, HD or CD?03:18
CybioLuija: ... no ... then Grub will get isntalled inside the master boot record of the HD03:19
Luijau know cybio? forget it, i will install with wubi lol03:19
Cybiothen you won't see a vista boot screen but grub boot screen03:19
CybioLuija: that's what i said earlier :-) ...03:19
Luija then you won't see a vista boot screen but grub boot screen" i was interested in that... but w/e03:20
Cybiofrom the grub boot screen you can also start vista ....03:20
draik_drostie: Never mind. It is now on pass 2. I guess it does take this long03:22
draik_drostie: It is done.03:23
drostienothing to be fixed? o_O03:23
ubuntu__help!!!03:23
ubuntu__I killed mz kubuntu03:24
ubuntu__my03:24
drostieubuntu__: what did you do this time? ^_^03:24
draik_results: /dev/sda1: 614958/46120960 files (4.5% non-contiguous), 76719843/92237189 blocks03:24
ubuntu__am on live cd now03:24
ubuntu__ok, there was the notifiacation that there were 39 updates available03:24
ubuntu__I installed them03:24
draik_drostie: Nope. Nothing to fix.03:25
ubuntu__then it said all done.03:25
ubuntu__and it old me there was still xine to be upgraded03:25
ubuntu__I clicked, ok03:25
ubuntu__It said it would delete files no longer neeeded03:25
drostiedraik_: and df is still misreporting the number?03:25
ubuntu__then it said it must stop the x/server, and slowlz icons went disappearing03:25
draik_drostie: Yup03:26
ubuntu__and now when i trz to log in it sazs it connot start xserver coy there|s no xsessionfile03:26
ubuntu__damn, got another kezboard here03:27
ubuntu__keyboard03:27
drostiedraik_: if the problem is not in the partition, it might be on the master boot record instead.03:27
ubuntu__drostie can u help me?03:27
drostie:-/ but I would have expected qtparted to deal with that.03:27
draik_drostie: What would happen if the HDD runs at 3 GB/s and system can only read at 1.5GB/s?03:27
ubuntu__i also tried recoverz mode03:28
ubuntu__and repair xserver there03:28
drostiedraik_: that depends. The data might get buffered somewhere, or the drivers might physically slow the drive down, depending on the context, enzovoort.03:28
ubuntu__but to no avail03:28
draik_drostie: I just checked the drive with gparted from within LiveCD. Says there is only 59.19GB of unused space on the 1TB!!!03:29
drostieubuntu__: mount your linux filesystem to /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so.03:29
drostieerm.03:29
drostieto /media/hd or so.03:29
draik_size = 931.51GB    used = 872.32GB     unused = 59.19GB03:30
draik_What gives?03:30
ubuntu__drostie> it|s automounted. dunno to where03:30
drostiedraik: egads.03:30
ubuntu__but I can access it here throu dolphin03:30
draik_drostie: What gives?03:31
drostieubuntu_: do you see the directory path at the top of Dolphin? Right click it and choose "Edit" to see where, exactly, it is."03:31
ubuntu__drostie> ok03:32
drostiedraik_: I have no idea. I've never seen fsck do that.03:32
ubuntu__got it03:32
ubuntu__now?03:32
drostieI assume it's not filled with random data.03:32
draik_drostie: It's not from fsck. It is from gparted03:33
draik_The LiveCD says this through gparted.03:33
draik_The actual install says 350GB HDD, which everything else says it is ~350GB filled on a 1TB HDD.03:33
draik_s/which/while03:34
drostieubuntu__: open up a terminal and [cd /media/hd/home/yourusername/] ... then [ls -al .x*] and tell me what's happening.03:34
draik_I'm going to boot into XP and see what is said by PartitionMagic03:35
drostiedraik_: this is why direct disk images are bad. ^_^03:35
drostiedraik: how much do you have, roughly, in actual files on that drive?03:35
draik_About 350GB03:36
ubuntu__drostie> ls: cannot access .x*: No such file or directory03:36
draik_Now I can't access XP!03:36
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drostieGRUB tries to boot into XP and... what happens?03:37
draik_Starting up...03:37
draik_That's it03:37
draik_It doesn't do anything after that.03:37
drostieubuntu: then just [ls -al] and see what's around.03:37
draik_I'm going to remove the 1.5GB/s jumper from the 1TB HDD03:38
drostieTrying to do this at 4:30 am is masochism. --_--;;03:39
ubuntu__ah sorry, drostie, i searched in home  not in home/username03:39
ubuntu__problem> I cannot change into user dierectorz as i made it access for user onlz03:40
ubuntu__only03:40
drostiedraik_: what's your drive setup, exactly? one partition for kubuntu, one partition for xp, how are they set up?03:40
ubuntu__and sudo cp does not work03:40
ubuntu__and right now, im live cd user, thus a diffrerent user03:40
drostieubuntu_: [sudo cd] wouldn't work, since you can't give the current shell a command via sudo. but you can still [sudo ls -al username] and that will list stuff.03:41
draik_drostie: Yes, that is the setup. Kubuntu is SATA through add-on card, XP is IDE0 Master.03:41
drostiedraik_: where is GRUB?03:41
ubuntu__drostie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120430/03:43
ubuntu__now zou know all the files in mz home dir03:43
ubuntu__you03:44
ubuntu__my03:44
ubuntu__what shall i do now/03:45
ubuntu__?03:45
draik_drostie: GRUB is on /dev/sda1 (1TB)03:47
drostieubuntu__: after some googling, I'm now a bit lost. Your program is complaining that you don't have a .xsession file in your home directory, and it's right. But as far as I can tell, kdm doesn't use .xsession files. What, exactly, were you installing that broke the computer?03:48
draik_Cybio: What's going on? What's with the CTCP request?03:49
Cybiosorry ....03:49
Cybio:-)03:49
drostiedraik_: so XP will boot if you change the boot order in BIOS, then, right?03:49
draik_drostie: I'm booting the system with 3.0GB/s now. No jumper. Let's see how that goes.03:49
Cybiokind of new with this :-P irc03:49
draik_drostie: Yes.03:50
ubuntu__i had firefox installed alreadz yesterday03:50
ubuntu__today transmission03:50
ubuntu__problem occured after upgrading xine03:50
draik_Launching firefox...03:50
draik_Frozen03:50
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draik_It froze before the window even opened. I had the bouncing icon and then it stopped.03:51
draik_Bouncing icon is just there on my screen, but not much more going on here.03:51
ubuntu__and it now sazs it connot start xserver or something with x, and says aborting03:51
ubuntu__i can onlz log into konsole03:51
ubuntu__i will never again update or upgrade, once it works again03:52
drostiehow are you logging into konsole?03:53
ubuntu__from recoverz mode03:53
ubuntu__there it then asks for login and pw03:53
ubuntu__but once i enter startx i get this error msg03:53
ubuntu__oh, and i installed ntpd03:54
drostieokay guys, listen. I can't physically stay awake any longer. I'm trying and failing. draik: you presumably still have a 350 GB hole on /dev/hda where the kubuntu used to be, right? Could you create a partition there, format, and transfer your files via [sudo cp -a] there?03:55
drostieBecause you could use that, then reformat /dev/sda1 with a shiny new ext3, then transfer the files the way they're meant to be.03:56
drostieWill that help? I dunno.03:56
ubuntu__drostie thank zou anyway for your help03:59
drostieubuntu__: I really don't know how you are set up, here. If you can do live cd manipulations, you can back up your data and then reinstall fresh, which will fix your problem (albeit taking an hour for the installer to work.)03:59
ubuntu__have a good night03:59
ubuntu__no space to put things to03:59
ubuntu__Ill try entering here tomorrow asking again03:59
ubuntu__maybe someone knows03:59
drostieYou really can't free up anything?04:00
ubuntu__pretty late here as well04:00
drostiek. 'night room.04:00
ubuntu__i already free up all possible space in order to install kubuntu. and now i accumulated more stuff04:00
ubuntu__nighty, drostie04:00
ubuntu__good nite room04:03
Cybionite :-)04:03
KDeskWhen I reproduce a video in mplayer or xine or ffplay, the colors are not correct, some days ago it was ok, what could be the problem?04:04
Cybioi'm not sure if this is OT or not but: where to ask questions about konversation-irc-client and general irc options? ....04:05
KDeskAh, I forgot to mention, onl with Dragon player the colors are ok04:07
Luijaei04:09
LuijaI got a problem04:10
Luijathe Kubuntu OS is not wanting to boot04:10
Luijaits blocked04:10
LuijaDaSkreech04:10
Luijacan u help me?04:10
DaSkreechBlocked by what?04:11
DaSkreechGuess not04:11
LuijaDas?04:11
DaSkreechBlocked by what?04:11
Luijai dont know04:11
Luijai just indtalled04:11
Luijarestarted04:12
Luijathen when i wanted to boot04:12
Luijait stayed in CMD04:12
Luijai dont know what happened04:13
Luijalet me format again and reinstall04:13
Luijashit, all was right04:14
Luijasrry for the ****04:14
Luijaall is worng now T_T+04:14
LuijaDaSkreech?04:16
DaSkreechwhat happens when it reboots?04:16
Luijait stays04:17
DaSkreechAnd are you booting from CD or hard drive?04:17
Luijaloading04:17
LuijaHD04:17
DaSkreechIt gets past grub and the loading bar?04:17
Luijaloading bar yes04:17
Luijaafter loading bar no04:17
Luija:(04:17
DaSkreechwhat happens after loading bar?04:17
Luijai want my beutiful kubuntu back T_T04:17
Luijait says: loading04:17
Luijait never loads04:17
Luijai waited like 5 m04:18
DaSkreechOk ... do you ahve two computers?04:18
Luijayes04:18
Luijafor?04:19
DaSkreechSo I can talk to you while you try fix kubuntu04:19
Luijaoh04:19
Luijalet me try to04:20
Luijainstall again04:20
Luijaboot and then04:20
Luijaif that dont works04:20
Luijawe do that :)04:20
DaSkreechok04:20
Cybiohow can i hide my host name / IP in IRC? :-)04:22
DaSkreechGet a mask04:23
PiciCybio: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks and ask in #freenode04:23
DaSkreech#freenode04:23
Cybiook thks04:23
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Luijaei04:40
Luijai am from kubuntu again04:40
Luijamefisto, r u here=04:40
Luijau remember the page that given the commands to make wifi atheros work?04:40
snarksterok I dont understand why when i close a plasma and relog its there everytime..04:41
DaSkreechhuh?04:42
snarksterhow do you get rid of a plasma if it continues to come back04:42
DaSkreechA widget?04:42
snarkstersorry.. I close a applet but when i log off and log back in its back on the desktop04:43
snarksterlike the clock or weather widget04:43
DaSkreechClose it then open konsole and type kquitapp plasma && plasma04:43
DaSkreechSHould kill it for good04:43
snarksterdo i have to do that everytime?04:43
DaSkreechNo I just do it if someplasmoid is stubborn04:44
DaSkreechhaven't had to do it in a while but that should work04:44
snarksterthat would be all of them on my system04:44
DaSkreechPlasma saves the configs every few minutes So if you remove stuff then logout soon afterwards it may not be saved04:45
DaSkreechkquitapp forces an instant save04:45
snarksteroh cool04:45
Luijaei guys04:45
Luijacan u give me the command to modify the grub?04:45
Luijai remember it ended in lst04:46
Luija???04:46
DaSkreech!grub04:46
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:46
DaSkreechThe file you want is /boot/grub/menu.lst04:47
Luijathx :D04:47
snarksterhmm I got a problem with that command..  it produced an error04:48
DaSkreechMaybe that's your problem?04:49
snarksterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/120445/04:50
snarksterhaha most likely04:50
DaSkreechhrm04:51
Luijapeople, what is the "gedit" of kubuntu?04:51
DaSkreechThat would be an issue04:51
snarksterok typing plasma did bring the desktop back04:51
DaSkreechkate04:51
DaSkreechsnarkster: plasmoid still there?04:51
DaSkreechLuija: and use kdesudo04:52
snarksteryah they came back04:52
LuijaKdesudo is gedit here in kubuntu?04:52
DaSkreechLuija: no kate04:52
Luija?04:52
snarksteruse kate its much better than gedit04:52
Luijaahhhh04:52
Luijaohhh04:52
DaSkreechsnarkster: Yeah the dbus thing is messing with you04:52
Luijanow i remember04:52
Luijaits true, thx snark :)04:53
DaSkreechI'm not sure how gedit got best text editor of the year04:53
snarksterah thats way beyond my skills.. any solution04:53
DaSkreechor nautilus got best file manager04:53
DaSkreechsnarkster: just need dbus I think04:53
snarksterwhat reinstall dbus?04:54
snarksteror reset debus04:54
snarksterI know that dbus is some sort of communication thing for for apps in linux04:54
DaSkreechreset I would guess04:54
DaSkreechit's IPC04:54
DaSkreechIt allows one random process to send out a message that other random processes can react to if they want04:55
snarksterok how does one reset dbus?04:55
DaSkreechSo the network manager can shout out Hey! My process just saw the network disappear04:55
DaSkreechand other processes can say Hmm Maybe I should stop checking for mail04:56
DaSkreechsnarkster: I have no idea :) let me find out04:56
DaSkreech!dbus04:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dbus04:56
DaSkreechDamn you ubottu04:56
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snarkstergoogle is my friend but like i said this is outta my comfort range04:57
LuijaLOL04:57
Luija!limonada04:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about limonada04:57
Luija....04:58
DaSkreechsnarkster: how much customization have you done ?04:59
snarksterhardly any04:59
DaSkreechok04:59
snarksterI do use evolution and pidgin thats it05:00
snarksteroh and firefox05:00
copondoHi everyone.05:00
DaSkreechNaw none of that matters for this05:01
DaSkreech!Hi05:01
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:01
copondoDoes any of you know if a Facebook plugin for Kopete exists?05:02
copondoI've Googled around but couldn't seem to find anything.05:02
copondoI'm IM-ing from Kenya05:02
snarksterok i did the command again but this time it did restart the desktop but widgets still there05:02
DaSkreechplugin?05:03
DaSkreechto do what?05:04
DaSkreechsnarkster: so you remove widget run command widget comes back ?05:04
snarksteryup05:04
copondoHi, thanks05:04
DaSkreechcopondo: plugin to do what?05:05
DaSkreechsnarkster: hmm that's kinda strange05:05
DaSkreechYou could kill it viciously if want05:06
snarksterhaha05:06
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snarksterwhere is the widget configuration file? I had heard that I might need to physically remove the containments from the file.05:08
copondoA plugin for Kopete to allow you to use Facebook chat.05:08
copondoJust like the ones that let you login to Yahoo and MSN and IRC, Jabber, e.t.c chat services.05:08
DaSkreech~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc05:08
DaSkreechOh Kopete05:09
DaSkreechUmm I think I heard there was one for that05:09
snarksterpidgin has that plugin05:09
DaSkreechcopondo: pidgin can do that though05:09
zaapielhey05:10
zaapielwhats the command to restart x11 server05:10
copondoI heard so too. I'll try that. But does a Kopete one exist?05:10
zaapielkeyboard combo?05:10
DaSkreechzaapiel: Logout and press alt+e05:10
snarksterok i just renamed the file. it should recreate the file right?05:10
zaapielty05:11
DaSkreechcopondo: Not one that you have access to is the short answer05:11
DaSkreechOh yeah05:11
snarksterto restart X ctrl-alt-backspace05:11
DaSkreechyou should really close plasma then rename the file05:11
snarksteroh05:11
snarksterto late05:11
copondoBut one is in the works I hope. I'll try the Pidgin one. Thanks05:11
snarksterso its going to freak out right?05:11
snarkstercopondo: it works pretty good05:12
DaSkreechsnarkster: no05:13
DaSkreechJust might save the file back before it closes05:13
snarksterok they are gone. yah me!05:13
copondoQuestion 2: I've an old IBM ThinkPad R40e on which I run Kubuntu with Compiz. It works fine, except for thick black borders that periodically form around windows and menus and linger until I 'erase' them by dragging a window over them. How can I fix this?05:13
snarksterbrb going to grab a smoke05:13
luis__ehhm people05:14
luis__one second05:14
DaSkreechThat's compiz05:14
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Luijafor some reason05:15
Luijait dont let me instal lthe nvdia05:15
Luijaaccelerated graphics05:15
Luija17705:15
Luijai click in activate, and it doesnt make anything :S05:15
Luijai have to write a command on konsole for it to work?05:15
Luija???05:16
DaSkreechMaybe05:16
Luijau know the command?05:16
DaSkreechnot off hand05:17
DaSkreech!nvidia05:17
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:17
copondoI have the exact same Kubuntu setup on an HP-Compaq nx6310, but it works smoothly, like charm. In fact it's the reason all my colleagues want to migrate to Linux.05:17
DaSkreechcopondo: Different video card I';; bet05:18
DaSkreechI'll05:19
copondoYeah, the ThinkPad is an ati, the HP is an intel. But isn't there a way around the problem?05:19
luchoflautista#kubuntu-es05:20
Luijaoh, lolm i forgetted i need synaptic05:20
DaSkreechcopondo: I suppose check in #compiz-fusion05:20
luchoflautistahi05:20
luchoflautistahow use windows live messenger on linux??? i have wine and winetricks05:21
copondoDaSkreech: Thanks05:21
Luijalucho: no possible T_T05:21
Luijastill with wine05:21
Luijaand i also think live is god lol05:22
DaSkreechluchoflautista: try amsn05:22
luchoflautistano05:22
luchoflautistai  no want amsn05:22
luchoflautistai cant use my web cam05:22
DaSkreechoh05:23
DaSkreechHmm05:23
DaSkreech#winehq but I think it's not likely you will get WLM working05:23
luchoflautistathanks05:24
Luijaoh my god i cant remember the command to download the package for making nvidia 177 active...05:25
Luijaand mefisto help me with that, and now i dont remember lol05:25
snarksterkopete has msn webcam support05:25
kkerwinHi. I'm looking for a program that can strip out the vocals of an MP3 song, leaving just the music. I'm wanting to create a karaoke MP3 from the original.05:26
snarksteraudacity has a filter for that but it doesnt work all that great05:26
DaSkreechThrere was a plugin for that for Amarok05:26
DaSkreechIt doesn't work that great05:27
snarksterold amarok05:27
DaSkreechIn fact any automated thing you try to do that wil not work that great05:27
kkerwinDaSkreech: I'm looking for something that can output an MP3 file. I'm teaching a lesson to my kids on the school computers, and won't have access to Amarok.05:27
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Luijakker, use edubuntu lololol05:27
kkerwinLuija: Can't install software on the school computers. Locked down tight.05:28
Luijaoh05:28
snarksterhmm you could try kde for windows..05:28
Luijawell that sucks :S05:28
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snarksterok do a usbkey install of linux and restart computer with the key in the usb port05:29
kkerwinsnarkster: Too complicated. I'm just looking for something that can output an MP3 file that I can put on my flashdrive and play at school on Windows Media Player.05:29
snarksteryah it is05:29
DaSkreechkkerwin: Audacity05:29
kkerwinDaSkreech: Thank you.05:29
snarksterand require a rather large usb key.. I use 8gb for mine05:29
sandGorgonhas anybody installed kde over ubuntu-minimal ? I dont want any games, office, etc. just a browser and c++ devkit. what should i be installing ?05:29
DaSkreechsandGorgon: A browser and a C++ devkit05:30
snarksterjust uninstall openoffice and what have you05:30
sandGorgonDaSkreech: no.. what I wanted to know was if i install "kubuntu-desktop" , I get all the fat that I dont want.. what should I install to get a bare working kde desktop in ubuntu-minimal ?05:32
DaSkreechsandGorgon: install the apps that you want05:32
snarksterkdelibs05:32
DaSkreechkdevelop and konqueror05:32
DaSkreechThey will pull in what they need05:32
DaSkreech  you should be good05:32
DaSkreechmight want to install kdm and plasma as well05:32
sandGorgonDaSkreech: is plasma necessary ?05:33
snarksterdo you know how to get microphones working? LOL05:33
DaSkreechsandGorgon: No05:33
DaSkreechI'm just saying you may want it :)05:33
DaSkreechthat or krunner05:34
snarksterokkkk im out.. thank you very much DaSkreech05:34
DaSkreechbye05:34
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socceroosWill Kubuntu be shipping with a default KDE4 release for Jaunty?05:41
Luija2DaSkreech05:41
Luija2talking from Vista again T_T05:41
Luija2i mean05:41
Luija2-___-05:41
Luija2got a fatal problem05:42
Luija2when i was booting05:42
Luija2it cant charge the nvidia05:42
Luija2so it stays in text mode05:42
DaSkreechcharge?05:42
Luija2WTF05:42
Luija2ehhhmm...05:42
Luija2load is the word05:42
DaSkreechok05:42
Luija2it says FAIL in red05:42
Luija2its blocked from there05:42
DaSkreechwell then take out the nvidia driver05:42
Luija2ehhhhh?????????05:42
Luija2how i can do that?05:43
DaSkreechdid you install the 177 driver ?05:43
Luija2I tell u I needed a command05:43
Luija2and i dont found that command05:43
Luija2i reboot and got the problem05:43
Luija2because the hardware manager tried to download it05:43
DaSkreechHmm05:43
Luija2reboot and... surprise surprise! -_-05:44
DaSkreechright so you need to get back to the nv driver05:44
Luija2yep05:44
DaSkreechcan You install irssi in kubuntu so we can talk to you there?05:44
Luija2i dont wanna damaga seriously my acer for installing a OS...05:44
DaSkreechIt won't05:44
Luija2it dont load the graphics05:44
Luija2just text mode05:45
Luija2all text mode05:45
DaSkreechUnless you throw it from annoyance05:45
Luija2annoyance=05:45
DaSkreechYeah I know the computer is fully usable in all text mode05:45
Luija2?05:45
DaSkreechYou get frustrated and throw it05:45
Luija2oh... LOL, i am starting, but the OS is better to do something like that so easily05:45
Luija2better than windows*05:46
Luija2so... what i do in kubuntu text mode?05:46
Luija2?05:47
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install irssi && irssi -c irc.freenode.ent05:47
DaSkreech.net05:47
Luija2oh my god i will not be able to remember that command... lol...05:47
DaSkreechthat will log you into IRC05:47
DaSkreechwrite it down05:47
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install irssi05:47
DaSkreechthen05:47
Luija2irssi && irssi irc....05:47
Luija2okay i am learning it05:48
DaSkreechirssi -c irc.freenode.net05:48
Luija2okay05:48
DaSkreechwhen you login to it then type /join #kubuntu05:48
DaSkreechThat will bring you here05:48
DaSkreechAnd we can talk with you05:48
Luija2sudo apt-get install irssi && irssi -c irc.freenode.net05:48
Luija2learned :)05:48
RieshLuija2: the && is only to continue with another command when the first ends with success05:48
Luija2oh05:49
Luija2ok05:49
Luija2ok, brb05:49
DaSkreechLuija2: ok05:49
DaSkreechrememver05:49
Luija2sudo app-get install irssi && irssi irc.freenode.net05:49
DaSkreechtype /join #kubuntu when it comes up05:49
DaSkreechapt05:49
Luija2ok05:49
Luija2apt05:49
Luija2brb05:49
DaSkreechwrite it down05:49
DaSkreechArgh05:49
DaSkreechSo going to foget05:49
DaSkreechforget05:49
soccerooslol05:50
socceroos$5 says he wont.....05:50
Rieshhehehe05:50
DaSkreechprobably won't but whats the harm of writing it down05:50
socceroosdo i have a $7? Seven over the back there sir?05:50
InfernoLinux<socceroos> lets see what happens05:50
socceroosInfernoLinux: thats all we can do =D05:51
socceroosby now, he should have installed irssi and be trying to connect........05:54
soccerooshehehe05:54
roccity_hey guys whats going on tonight05:55
luis__lol i did it05:55
luis__i am Luija05:56
DaSkreechYay!!05:56
luis__okay05:56
luis__i am in irssi05:56
luis__now?05:56
DaSkreechok this is IRC05:56
DaSkreechYes05:56
DaSkreechListen to me carefully05:56
luis__ok05:56
DaSkreechDon't do anything till I tell you05:56
luis__ok05:56
DaSkreechYou have multiple terminal05:56
DaSkreechYou cna jump between then05:56
luis__aja05:57
DaSkreechyou can press alt+Ctrl+F105:57
DaSkreechTo get to TTY 105:57
luis__now?05:57
DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+F2 for TTY205:57
DaSkreechno05:57
luis__ok05:57
DaSkreechThe GUI is on Alt+CtrlF705:58
luis__gui?05:58
RieshGraphical User Interface (GUI)05:58
DaSkreechSo try press alt+ctrl+F2 then alt+Ctrl+F1 to get back here05:58
luis__sweet05:58
DaSkreechF2 should have a login screen05:58
luis__sweet05:59
luis__yes it have05:59
luis__a login screen05:59
luis__done05:59
DaSkreechOk Login there You can swap back and forth between the two to talk to us and type in commands05:59
luis__very nice05:59
InfernoLinuxI would really love to know how to make the text on the login screen larger. It is nothing but a blur on this 52" screen05:59
DaSkreechjust out of interest what does sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start do ?05:59
luis__so i have to go to ctrl alt f7?05:59
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: You can06:00
DaSkreechluis__: There is probably nothing on it right now06:00
luis__nothing lol06:00
luis__just a "g" lol06:00
kushalRiddell, ping06:00
luis__ok so06:00
luis__to what ctrl alt f i have to go?06:01
luis__?06:02
Riesh1 for chat and 2 for typing commands06:02
luis__ok06:02
DaSkreechRight06:02
DaSkreech type in sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start06:02
DaSkreechTell me what it does06:03
luis__command not found :S06:04
luis__and y type it correctyl06:04
luis__I*06:04
DaSkreechsudo ?06:04
luis__yes06:04
DaSkreechthen /etc/init.d/kdm<space> start ?06:05
luis__yes06:05
luis__oh06:05
luis__without sudo?06:05
Rieshwith sudo06:05
luis__nop06:05
luis__nothing06:05
luis__it would be better if I reinstall kubuntu? these is starting to become annoying...06:06
Rieshre-installing when something goes wrong is more the MS phylosophy06:07
luis__there is not a quick way to solve the graphic problem in kubuntu?06:07
luis__lol riesh...06:07
DaSkreechyeah I just wanted o know what would happen if you tried to start the GUI06:07
luis__in text mode* not kubuntu06:07
luis__okay06:07
luis__so06:07
luis__now06:07
luis__what commands?06:07
DaSkreechLemme see06:08
DaSkreech!nvidia06:08
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:08
luis__there is not a way to copy paste the commands of F1 to F2?06:08
DaSkreechmaybe06:09
luis__ok, w/e06:09
luis__lets continue06:09
DaSkreechluis__: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-17706:10
luis__it says it is already in his more recent version 0_006:11
Rieshluis__: you can try to find out what is wrong by doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ... maybe the info there will give you a hint06:11
DaSkreechok06:11
InfernoLinuxahhh kitty go away you dont have an anit-static wristband06:12
DaSkreechoh luis__ as a help if you want to complete the name of a file or path you an use tab06:12
DaSkreechso cat /va<tab>log/Xo<tab>06:12
luis__ok06:12
DaSkreechluis__: If it won't complete press tab twice and it will tell you what you can do from there06:13
luis__ehhmm riesh06:13
luis__it says command not found06:13
Rieshand maybe you also would like to install gpm ... (sudo apt-get install gpm) to get your mouse woking in text mode ... handy for compying error messages06:13
luis__okay, continue DaSkreech06:14
Rieshcat <space> .........06:14
luis__lol06:14
DaSkreechluis__: which didn't work?06:14
luis__not working also06:14
luis__i dont understand what u mean with that of the tab06:15
Rieshthe tab above the caps lock06:15
Rieshkey06:15
luis__sudo apt-get install gpm06:15
DaSkreechYes06:15
luis__upps06:15
DaSkreechthe tab key06:15
luis__lol i know, i am not a suck ignorant06:15
luis__but06:15
luis__i dont understand for what is the tab06:15
luis__right now06:16
DaSkreechit auto completes things06:16
Rieshthe shell (bash) ahs auto completion06:16
DaSkreechso you don't have to type out everything06:16
Rieshhas06:16
DaSkreechplus if you get stuck somewhere tab twice will tell you what is possible06:16
luis__ok06:16
luis__lets proceed06:16
luis__now, what commands?06:17
luis__tell me if u get block in one point, so I reinstall lolololol06:17
DaSkreechlike if you type less /var/log/Xo<tab><tab> it will tell you all the files that start with Xo06:17
luis__thx for the mouse aplication riesh :)06:17
Rieshnp06:17
DaSkreechluis__: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:17
DaSkreechtell me if there is a line inthere that says driver06:17
DaSkreechor Driver06:18
luis__wait06:18
luis__i try to use the mouse to copy06:18
luis__but06:18
luis__it only lets me paste it here06:18
DaSkreech:-)06:18
luis__in F106:18
luis__not F206:18
DaSkreechmiddle click in F2 doesn't work?06:18
luis__i dont have middle click, this is a touch pad lol06:19
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DaSkreechAh :-)06:20
Rieshyou can press both left and right to emulate a middle click06:20
DaSkreechYeah but w/e06:20
DaSkreechdid you get the sudo nano to open ?06:20
Guest31644Hi06:20
luis__yes06:21
luis__is open06:21
luis__a bunch of text06:21
luis__this is taking more than what i think....06:22
Riesh:-) ... be patient ... people try to help you06:22
DaSkreechis there a line that says Driver ?06:22
luis__riesh06:23
luis__i am not hurrying no one06:23
luis__is than i am a little tired :)06:23
Rieshin the section ...... "Section "Device" "06:23
luis__there is not a section device...06:23
DaSkreech!xfix06:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xfix06:25
DaSkreech!fix res06:25
luis__lol06:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fix res06:25
luis__lol06:25
DaSkreech!fixres06:25
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution06:25
DaSkreechAh there we go06:25
Rieshi now have xorg.conf open and see "Section "Screen"" ... a "Section "Module" " and a "Section "Device" "06:25
luis__i have to write that command DaSkreech?06:26
DaSkreechluis__: Do you have section "Device" in the file you opened06:27
luis__nop06:27
DaSkreechWhat is in it?06:28
luis__nothing06:28
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luis__just a explanation06:28
DaSkreechWrong file06:28
DaSkreechOh?06:28
DaSkreechWhat does it say at the top?06:28
luis__a explanation than if I modifify this file06:28
luis__i exit06:28
luis__already06:28
DaSkreechpress up to get back your last command06:28
DaSkreechYou can reopen it easily06:29
luis__xorg.conf06:29
DaSkreechYes06:29
luis__ok06:29
luis__but there is not a section called "device"06:29
Rieshhehehe06:29
DaSkreechDo you see a part that says Section "Device" ?06:29
DaSkreechok06:29
DaSkreechClose the file06:29
luis__ok..06:30
DaSkreech sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:30
DaSkreechThat should remake that file06:30
Rieshif i may ask .... why use the "-phigh"06:30
luis__done06:31
luis__now?06:31
DaSkreechIt makes it not ask question06:31
Rieshah ... ok ok06:31
DaSkreechOtherwise it asks you for each thing it's writing what you want to do06:31
DaSkreechluis__: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start06:32
luis__kdm already running06:33
DaSkreechpress up and change start to restart06:33
Rieshsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart06:33
DaSkreechhi Luija06:34
LuijaDUDE!!! if i would be gay, i would kiss u!!! but because i am not gay, i can only say u: thx x1000!!!!!!!!! LOL06:35
Luijaseriously, thx a lot06:35
DaSkreechIt's really pretty hard to break Linux to the point where you can't fix it06:35
Luijalol06:35
DaSkreechat your level I wouldnt expect you to fix this06:36
Luijalol never06:36
Luijabut06:36
Luijathen how i can safely06:36
DaSkreechBut if you aren't afraid of the command line yo ucan fix pretty much anything06:36
Luijaactivate the nvidia without crashing?06:36
Luijau know the command?06:36
DaSkreechnot off the top of my head06:36
DaSkreech hold on I have to walk my dogs06:36
Luijadarn... is ok, i only hoped than mefisto was here...06:36
Luijaoh06:36
Luijaok06:37
DaSkreech:-)06:37
DaSkreechclaydoh: Ping06:37
SJrXWhat is the base package name that I need to install for KDE 4.2?06:43
DaSkreechkubuntu-desktop06:47
DaSkreechhi luis__06:48
DaSkreechBroke something ?06:48
luis__ei06:48
luis__no06:48
luis__now i am now as broking guys? lol wtf06:48
luis__u were the guy who nicely give me the commands for konsole06:49
SJrXNo KDE 4.2, not kubuntu. I seem to be missing things in my K menu, etc.06:49
SJrXI want to make sure that kde 4.2 is fully installed06:49
luis__to get java and flash06:49
luis__can u get them again pls?06:49
luis__and thx for all ur help :)06:49
luis__SjrX, i tried to install it, and then K menu and some spaces where missing06:50
luis__i need to reinstall Kubuntu to get 4.1 :S06:50
luis__u have the commands DaSkreech?06:50
Rieshluis__: you always can do a search for these with "apt-cache search package-name"06:50
luis__i dont understand u06:51
Rieshand then use apt-get install package-name06:51
Rieshin console you can type "apt-cache search java"06:51
Rieshor "apt-cache search flash"06:51
luis__got it :)06:52
luis__and i found what i wanted :D06:52
Rieshthen you see a lot of packages06:52
Rieshlike flashplugin-nonfree06:53
luis__yes a lot06:53
Rieshso you can do "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"06:53
luis__but i see the nonfree :)06:53
luis__sweet, thx06:53
Riesh"apt-cache search java" give another bunch of package names06:54
luis__but DaSkreech give me one specific command06:54
luis__than, in his words06:54
luis__installed "rubbish things"06:54
luis__but installed the necessary, what would be that?06:55
Rieshmmm don't know what he said06:55
luis__oh06:55
luis__ok06:55
luis__but in java case for firefox06:56
luis__what would be the correct?06:56
luis__because search java throw a bunch06:56
Rieshfor java you can do "apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre"06:56
luis__but how u can know the specific command for everything lol06:57
Rieshapt-cache --help :-)06:57
Rieshsearch - Search the package list for a regex pattern06:58
luis__oh and, synaptics or adept r not the same?06:58
luis__but adept, i searched firefox, and i could find the browser :S06:58
luis__could not*06:58
Rieshthey are graphical tools for doing the same06:58
Rieshbut i found out that soemtimes i do not find what i want in Adept06:59
luis__and synaptic?06:59
Rieshsynaptics is as far as i know a Gnome program ....06:59
luis__lol i got synaptic here07:00
RieshOK ... you can use that too ... :-)07:00
Rieshbut it's (i think) still handy to know the commands for on the console07:00
luis__oh07:01
luis__ok07:01
SJrXARGH!07:01
luis__what07:02
SJrXI just removed the nvidia driver from my system, and now I can't use my external LCD screen on my laptop07:02
DaSkreechSJrX: If you have KDE 4.2 and Kubuntu-desktop installed you are probably ok07:04
DaSkreechluis__: kubuntu-restricted-extras07:04
luis__that!07:05
luis__thx daSkreech07:05
luis__but how u can find that of kubuntu command?07:05
DaSkreechSJrX: Oh not about the nvidia think07:05
DaSkreech!info kubuntu-restricted-extras07:06
ubottukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 25 (intrepid), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB07:06
luis__but, apart from java, what it installs?07:06
DaSkreechluis__: It's not a command it's package you install07:06
SJrXI don't seem to be able to use my secondary display without using the nvidia drivers which suck07:06
DaSkreechluis__: Mp3 divx flash fonts all sorts of things07:06
luis__oh07:06
luis__ok07:06
DaSkreechSJrX: hopefully open source drivers wil cover that soon. but I guess install the nvidia drivers till then07:07
SJrXThe nvidia drivers make KDE unusuable with all the desktop corruption07:07
DaSkreechYou mean the visual rubbish in the windows?07:08
SJrXyeah it goes black, and then multi-colored everywhere07:09
SJrXwindows, the K menu, the task bar07:09
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DaSkreechSJrX:  http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/?p=21107:11
SJrXDaSkreech you'll earn the biggest, wettest kiss, if this works07:13
DaSkreechI seem to get kisses a lot tonight07:13
norencan someone please tell me how to fix kde multimedia library07:21
DaSkreechWhat is KDE multimedia library?07:22
noreni dont know dis is what i get when i log in07:24
DaSkreechWhat do you get?07:28
ytooxhello07:32
ytooxI got a question but it's about BEos07:32
DaSkreech!hi07:32
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:32
ytooxcan anyone give me a hand?07:32
bazhangBeOS?07:33
bazhangin #kubuntu?07:33
ytooxno, I am just trying to see if anyone has tried to emulate this on kubuntu and virtualbox07:34
bazhangsure you dont mean jeOS?07:34
ytooxbut I can't find a BEOS channel07:34
ytooxnop07:34
ytooxBEOS07:34
DaSkreechytoox: What about it?07:34
ytooxI have tried the other ones, Jeos, Haiku, Zeta os07:34
ytooxwell, I downloaded the files and when unpacked07:34
bazhangdid you install all the relevant vbox packages?07:34
ytooxit has floppy.img and a beos.iso image07:34
ytooxboth supposed to be on a burned cd07:35
ytooxyeah07:35
ytooxi got htat07:35
ytooxthat07:35
bazhangthis is vbox-ose or the one from vbox site07:35
ytooxbut when I load the .cue files on k3b it does not work07:35
ytooxI think I got it from the site07:35
bazhangshould just load the iso file07:35
ytooxyeah07:35
ytooxand it does07:35
bazhangwhat's the link07:36
ytooxbut it also needs that floppy.img file to load07:36
bazhangbeos.org?07:36
ytooxbut the whole process stops because of a kernel panic07:36
ytooxhold on07:36
ytooxbebits.com07:37
DaSkreechPalm owns beos Thre is no BeOS.org binaries that are legal07:37
bazhangoops07:37
ytooxhttp://www.bebits.com/app/314807:38
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Guest37959anyone know why knotify would be crashing with kopete on every message received - with kde 4.2?07:39
bazhangseems like you dont need to use vbox for that07:40
ytooxmmm07:40
ytooxthen?07:41
bazhangat least the link from distrowatch.com one07:41
bazhangthough it says it wont run on system with more than 1GB of ram07:42
ytooxaha07:43
bazhangyou may wish to visit the haiku channel as I think this is getting offtopic here :)07:43
ytooxthat's why I specify 51 of memory07:43
ytooxis there one?07:43
bazhangwithout vbox, no real connection to kubuntu :)07:44
bazhangyep; #haiku07:44
ytooxk07:45
SJrXHmmmm DaSkreech so far so good no weirdness07:51
SJrXI spoke too soon07:51
SJrXI don't know what it is07:51
SJrXmaybe WINE07:51
SJrXYou know DaSkreech lol, I think it's actually wINE07:52
zeltakhi guys08:09
zeltakanyone care to help me a sec with learning something simple on the command line?08:09
SJrwhat do you want to know08:09
SJrhow to kill a man with your bare hands08:09
zeltakthx SJr :)08:09
zeltakim trying to build a simple (i mean dead simple script since im a newbee :) to del all jpg, txt and info from all movie folders08:11
zeltakso far i came up with this08:11
zeltakfind /media/movt/ -name *.nfo -exec ls '{}' ';'08:11
zeltaki know i have to change the ls to rm etc..08:11
zeltakbut how to i pick multiple file types08:11
SJrRegular expressions or multiple lines :)08:12
SJrI just use multiple lines :)08:12
SJrI have something very similiar except it sets all my illegally downloaded movies to immutable so they can't be corrupted08:13
zeltakk :) where can one find info on reg expressions (keep in mind i a newbee)08:13
zeltakSJr: LOL nice08:13
SJrI dunno both as an admin, and a software developer I have dodged learning regular expressions all the time08:14
SJrjust use multiple lines08:14
zeltakcan you explain a bit about multiple lines..you mean run the command twice08:15
SJrzeltak,  yes and put it in a shell script08:21
zeltakk cool08:21
zeltakthx SJr08:21
X9nLinux9Anybody here running anything newer than Edgy on a non-intel Mac?08:35
sonyguys i had a question hows simply mepis compared to kubuntu08:36
X9nLinux9Anybody here running anything newer than Edgy on a non-intel Mac?08:38
bazhangX9nLinux9, you looking for a more recent version?08:40
X9nLinux9yeah... but it has to be good for an old G408:41
bazhangwhat version? hardy?08:41
X9nLinux9yeah if it would work08:41
bazhangonly one way to find out :)08:42
math_hello08:42
bazhanghttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/hardy/release/08:42
bazhangX9nLinux9, ^^08:43
X9nLinux9looked at the page... "http://lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu-releases/" ...and it doesn't seem to show that there is one for my machine08:43
X9nLinux9ok... lemmee go look there too08:43
bazhangthey give a pretty clear description on which machines will support that08:44
pteaguei'm having issues getting kwallet to load when i login... even though i have kde set up to restore the previous session & i had kwallet running prior to logging out...  plus it seems that sometimes i can get programs to store their username/password in it, but none of them seem to be able to get them out (i'm wondering if possibly there was some sort of problem in the storing of it to disk?)08:44
math_i  need help, (sorry my inglish) , i try compile a "hello world" aplication  using Kdeveloper 3.5.3, and get the error "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail."08:44
X9nLinux9bazhang, yeah, it does appear that that one is described right.  Thanks.  Guess I was looking at a less complete source... thinking they might not do a distro for older / non intel macs any more08:49
doktoreasis there any flickr uploader for kde4 ?08:53
bazhang!info plasmoid-flickr08:56
ubottuplasmoid-flickr (source: plasmoid-flickr): A flickr plasmoid for KDE 4. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 14 kB, installed size 88 kB08:56
bazhang!info kflickr08:56
ubottukflickr (source: kflickr): KDE application to upload photos to Flickr. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-2 (intrepid), package size 281 kB, installed size 992 kB08:56
Riesh!info kphotobymail08:57
ubottukphotobymail (source: kphotobymail): PyQt application for uploading photos to flickr. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-2 (intrepid), package size 40 kB, installed size 456 kB08:57
doktoreaswow thx :D08:57
doktoreaskflickr is no working08:57
bazhangapt-cache search flickr08:57
doktoreasnot08:57
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bazhangor on irc /msg ubottu find flickr08:57
doktoreasthx for the help bazhang08:58
bazhangnp08:58
ActionParsnipyo yo yo08:58
ActionParsnipis there a kubuntu server install iso?08:59
bazhangnot afaik08:59
ActionParsnipok cool, i can deal, just curious08:59
bazhangthe server being cli and all would not make much sense08:59
ActionParsnipthanks :)08:59
doktoreasbazhang: the flickr plasmoid wanna downgrade kbase-workspace from 4.2 to 4.108:59
ActionParsnipbazhang: isnt the kernel more oriented to background processes?09:00
bazhangdoktoreas, best wait for jaunty then09:00
ActionParsnipbazhang: is the server kernel any different?09:00
bazhangActionParsnip, the server kernel? not that I know of09:00
bazhangActionParsnip, sure it is09:00
ActionParsnipbazhang: in what way/s09:00
ActionParsnipplease09:01
bazhangallows for more than 4gb ootb09:01
bazhangActionParsnip, you can run it as desktop if you want, not sure why though09:01
ActionParsnipbazhang: i'm gonna be running a headless system which will be running ktorrent and amarok and all accessed via http09:02
pteaguethere is ubuntu-server...  is it that you want to install a server with a gui or... ?09:02
bazhangActionParsnip, why not go for rtorrent then?09:03
pteaguei'd use rtorrent instead09:03
bazhang!info rtorrent09:03
ubotturtorrent (source: rtorrent): ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 325 kB, installed size 884 kB09:03
ActionParsnipi'm comfortable with ktorrent and I figured it was already running amarok so i may as well stick with it09:03
bazhangcool09:03
ActionParsnipas both need x and qt libs09:03
pteague& isn't there something like icecast or some such for streaming?09:03
ActionParsnippteague: its not for streaming, its for controlling what the player playes with XUL remote which works great with my g1 phone09:04
ActionParsnippteague: its kinda like iphone + itunes but i despise apple09:04
ActionParsnipintensely09:04
bazhangicecast2 and icecast-server09:04
pteaguei wasn't sure i would like rtorrent, but it kicks butt on my fileserver & means i don't need to install/run a gui09:05
ActionParsnipbazhang: so I can connect to some http interface and the audio I pick will play out of my servers sound card and not the device accessing it?09:05
bazhangkmandla has some great tutorials on getting using rtorrent09:05
ActionParsnipbazhang: with icecast?09:05
ActionParsnipthats what i need, so its kinda like an http juke box09:06
bazhangicecast2 is a streaming media server09:06
bazhangnot sure about the http part; would this be from another computer?09:07
pteagueanybody know where kwallet stores it's config info for user ?09:07
bazhangor installing gui on ubuntu-server09:07
ActionParsnipbazhang: not what i'm after, its kinda like sshing to a server then running mplayer to plpay the music, the audio comes out of the server, not down the line to the accessing systems soundcard09:07
bazhangActionParsnip, remote location? or in the same local area network09:08
pteagueare you wanting a web interface to play audio out of the server's sound card?09:08
ActionParsnippteague: exactly, amarok does this with XUL remote09:08
bazhang!info mediatomb09:08
ubottumediatomb (source: mediatomb): UPnP MediaServer (main package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-3ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 17 kB, installed size 96 kB09:08
ActionParsnippteague: it runs on port 8888 by default09:08
bazhangheh surprised to see ActionParsnip asking instead of answering09:09
ActionParsnipbazhang: like i always say, no one knows everything :)09:10
bazhang:)09:10
pteagueah, now mediatomb sounds cool09:10
ActionParsnipyeah i'll look into that09:10
bazhang!info mpd09:11
ubottumpd (source: mpd): Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.2-2ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 144 kB, installed size 432 kB09:11
ActionParsnipyea i tried mpd, its a PITA09:11
bazhangk09:11
ActionParsnipthats xul remote: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/t/14216/118027413809:12
ActionParsnipits funny if my gf is on the system checking assbook or whatever and I blast on some iniquity09:13
ActionParsnipor use espeak via ssh09:13
ActionParsnipthanks for the suggestions though :)09:14
ActionParsnipwhat else does the server install offer? I've never touched it really but it's always been there09:14
pteagueubuntu-server? it has access to all the same packages as any other *buntu09:15
ActionParsnipso why does it exist except the +4Gb ram feature or is that it?09:16
ActionParsnipand no x server by default09:17
pteaguebig memory kernel option apparently only works on certain hardware... i'm not sure if that's in the server or not... i know all the 64bit works at 4+gb ram easy09:17
ActionParsnipwell yeah, but i dont know of any other advantages, are there any more?09:17
pteagueit's just another default install option...  there's ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, mythbuntu, ubuntu-server, blah blah :)09:17
ActionParsnippteague: i know that much but what other features does the server give besides no X and the ram feature?09:18
pteagueit looks like jeos isn't available separately anymore... at least with intrepid ubuntu-server you just need to change the install mode & tada it's jeos09:18
pteaguemay have some other/different defaults to installed/available drivers?  considering raid cards, etc...  otherwise only things i'm aware of is what you stated (still not sure on the ram) & intrepid's jeos install09:20
pteaguemight check #ubuntu-server & see if anybody there knows09:20
ActionParsnipok thats cool09:20
ActionParsnipi'll stick to my minimal cd :)09:20
pteague& jeos, if you're not familiar with it, is a really minimal install aimed at virtual machines09:21
ActionParsnipi use fluxbox09:21
ActionParsniplove kde, hate kwin09:22
pteaguethere may also be a difference in how processes are handled... i don't recall the details of that offhand though09:23
ActionParsnipwell the sysytems only use will be samba, ssh, amarok/mediatomb and ktorrent/rtorrent09:24
pteague& considering my revamp on my hardware & re-purposing my old boxes campaign here at home... i'm thinking most of my stuff will be going to 64bit *buntu... currently only my desktop is, most of my hardware for other boxes already is (or will be after this latest update/re-purpose)09:26
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ActionParsnippteague: i only have 1 64bit cpu, most of the rest dont even reach 1Ghz09:26
ActionParsnipgotta love gentoo09:27
ActionParsnipwell if server gives me nothing i'll avoid but i'm gonna apt-build stuff in :D, thats fun09:29
ActionParsnipare the forums down?09:30
pteaguei got an atom 330 to upgrade my mythtv front end... the atom 230 in the current front end is going in my fileserver... the 32bit d201gly mini-itx is going to replace somebody else's old ATX board that i'm not sure what to do with at this point09:31
ActionParsnipmini-itx is awesome09:31
pteagueyep, i'm going that way with most of my stuff from now on considering how cheap they've gotten... & the atom's are 64bit :)09:32
pteagueonly 2 boxes i think that won't have mini-itx are my desktop & my mythtv back end - i need more pci slots in that back end than the mini-itx comes with :(09:33
ActionParsnippteague: can you get pci daughterboards these days?09:34
pteaguei believe so, but i think putting in a 4port SATA controller & a dual-tuner would be pushing a daughterboard09:35
pteagueplus i'm thinking i'm going to replace the dual-tuner with 2x hd tuners09:35
ActionParsnippteague: like a daughterboard to get more pci slots09:36
pteaguethe 2nd tuner in the hauppauge pvr-500 is giving me issues... not sure if it's the driver or not09:36
ActionParsniplike back in the day :)09:36
ActionParsnipwelll, back in the day it was to actually get expansion slots09:36
pteaguehehe, yeah, but i think a 4port SATA controller is pushing the pci bus isn't it?09:36
ActionParsnippteague: true, bu you said you were low on pci slots, if you can find a pci daughteroard you should be able to get more09:37
pteaguemy ibm ps/2 uses an isa daughter board ;)09:37
ActionParsniplike that, but for new systems09:38
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pteaguewouldn't a daughter board increase the load on the pci slot ? or is my thinking about how those work wrong?09:40
gringzciao09:40
bazhang!it09:40
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)09:40
ActionParsnippteague: yes the pci slot will be shared between however many devices, but you will get more pci slots09:41
ActionParsnippteague: you could try to find firewire / usb devices09:41
ActionParsnipgaahhh stupid sql upgrades :(09:44
pteaguesomebody pointed out a network accessible tuner a while back which i might use, but not sure how that may affect lag that already exists between the backend & frontend09:47
ActionParsnipdepends on how much bandwidth it uses, on a 1000Mbps line you should be fine09:47
pteaguethere a new update to mysql or postgresql?09:47
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ActionParsnippteague: one of my sql team is upgrading sql at my work and rebooting boxes and im getting alerts galore09:48
pteagueunfortunately i'm still on a mixed network... would currently need a yet another pci slot for a gigabit lan connector for backend & i'm not sure if the network tuner had gigabit or not09:49
pteagueoh, lol... i'm hoping they tested & backed up first?09:49
ActionParsnippteague: i always use it, my fileserver gets a hammering without a 100Mbps line09:50
pteaguei'm still trying to figure out an issue with my fileserver... normally it's just fine, but on rare occasion when sending large amounts of data (i.e. doing an rsync transferring several gig) it seems the network drops... ifconfig still shows the ethernet up, but nothing goes in or out... simply running ifdown eth0 & then ifup eth0 fixes the issue09:57
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ActionParsnippteague: what system are you using to distribute the folder you are rsyncing to?09:57
pteagueor at least fixes it sometimes... i've gotten to where i run `/etc/init.d/networking restart && ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0`09:57
pteaguessh ...  also had the issue over samba & nfs09:58
ActionParsnipin smb.conf did you have: socket options = TCP_NODELAY09:59
pteaguelike when i moved all the mp3s that had recently been downloaded in my windows vm caused the issue last time09:59
pteagueyep09:59
ActionParsnippteague: funily enough, I just got the update for libqt4-sql-mysql hehe10:00
bdizzlehey10:00
ActionParsnip!hi | bdizzle10:00
ubottubdizzle: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:01
bdizzleI was wondering if there is a way to map the "windows" key on my keyboard to launch the k-menu on K 8.10 ?10:01
pteaguecrap, just realized how late it is & i actually need to wake up tomorrow10:03
bdizzlelol10:03
bdizzleeh, just stay up the day and welcome in the morning10:03
pteaguei can still get in 8 hours of sleep i think, but i should have gone to bed earlier so i could have gotten some stuff done before the meeting10:05
ActionParsnipbdizzle: in linux its called the super key10:06
bdizzleI know10:07
bdizzleah, okay10:07
bdizzlesee, its morning in about ... 3 hours for me10:07
bdizzleso its like, hell, I'll just stay up10:07
pteagueit's 4am here10:07
bdizzle5 AM here10:08
ActionParsnipbdizzle: east coast rider10:08
ActionParsnipbdizzle: 10am here10:08
bdizzleyup10:08
bdizzleoh, you across the pond?10:08
ActionParsnipbdizzle: i look after servers in florida from uk, so Im used to a 5hr difference10:09
pteaguei've been trying to get back to going to bed earlier... i've noticed that if i get to bed before midnight i tend to wake up earlier & i feel more rested than i do when i get to bed at 4am & sleep for 12 hours >.>10:09
bdizzlethis is true, and I had meant to go to sleep last night, just got into a convo and it lasted a few hours10:09
ActionParsnip!shortcut | bdizzle10:10
ubottubdizzle: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts10:10
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pteagueoh, media keys... i'll have to remember that10:10
pteague!shortcut > pteague10:11
ubottupteague, please see my private message10:11
bdizzlethanks10:11
ActionParsnipbdizzle: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/use-the-windows-key-for-the-start-menu-in-ubuntu-linux/10:11
ActionParsnipbdizzle: not sure in kde as i dont use kwin but the gnome thing may help10:12
pteaguemy issue is i'd like to be able to use the "windows" key both to open the menu & as a modifier key (like in windows), but i've never been able to get it to do that... been a couple years since i tried though10:13
pteaguethen again considering i always have a terminal open i'm not sure win+r is as useful anymore10:14
bdizzleyeah, I can't even find where the K-menu modifer is on the keyboard shortcut area10:14
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pteaguelook for ctrl+escape ... i believe that's the normal default10:17
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MementoMorihi10:23
bazhanghi10:24
MementoMorii've installed okular-extra-backends but i can't  open chm files via okular10:24
MementoMoriit seems like chm is not a valid plugin10:24
MementoMoriany hint?10:24
bazhang!info kchmviewer10:27
ubottukchmviewer (source: kchmviewer): CHM viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 430 kB, installed size 1408 kB10:27
MementoMoribazhang: i've already installed kchmviewer but i'd prefer to use okular10:29
bazhangMementoMori, not sure then; that works here (kchmviewer)10:29
bazhangMementoMori, there are a number of gnome ones as well10:30
MementoMoritry installing okular-extra-backends and using okular10:30
MementoMoritell me if it works for you10:30
MementoMori!info okular-extra-backends10:30
ubottuokular-extra-backends (source: kdegraphics): additional document format support for okular. In component main, is extra. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 50 kB, installed size 228 kB10:30
MementoMoribazhang: have you tried?10:34
The_ManU_212hi, i use hardy heron since the last updated my kded is on 100% cpu suage and i have to kill it everytime i want to work, and i dont know where my kdewallet passwords are, i cant open it ? someone can help?10:35
MementoMoriyes10:35
MementoMorinot so hard10:35
MementoMoriThe_ManU_212: gimme only a couple of minutes10:36
The_ManU_212MementoMori: thx10:36
MementoMori.kde/share/config/kwalletrc10:37
MementoMori.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl10:37
MementoMorithose are the 2 only files you need10:38
MementoMorithe rc one is the configuration part10:38
MementoMorikwl is where pass are actually stores10:38
MementoMoristored10:38
MementoMoriyou need a running kwalletmanager to open the kwl and to export it in the format you want (i.e. xml)10:40
MementoMoriThe_ManU_212: ok?10:40
The_ManU_212MementoMori: the thing is, that my kubuntu doenst work allright because of thus kded which i have to kill everytime if i want to work with a lame pc like in the early 90ies, its since one of the last security updates, and i dont wnat to export something, just use kdewallet as everytime, but when i kill kded and open kdewalletmanager i cnat open anything :/10:42
The_ManU_212MementoMori: i even cant send emails with thudnerbird, i think alld epends on dekwallet10:43
MementoMoriThe_ManU_212: I'm not sure thunderbird uses kdewallet as password backend10:45
The_ManU_212MementoMori: ok itw as another issue, but dont you know this kded bug and that dkewallet dosnt find any wallet?10:45
MementoMoriuh?10:48
Texasi tried to open my adept manager and it says the packaging system data base is bein used by another program10:53
Texasyou here10:54
Texasanybody10:54
MementoMoriTexas: close the other progam10:54
Texaswhat else could be using it10:54
Texasi very new to all this10:55
MementoMoritry closing all program you've opened and restart adept10:56
ActionParsnipTexas: do you have synaptic open / are you installing via apt?10:56
Texasive restarded my computer and nothing10:56
ActionParsnip!fixapt10:56
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »10:56
ActionParsnipTexas: make sure you have no package apps open as they will hold the packages so no other app can access them10:56
Texasim very very new lol10:57
MementoMoriActionParsnip: nice solution ;)10:57
kronicKoHHey guys10:58
ActionParsnipMementoMori: it was nothing, i'd like to thank god, my mum and dad and my sponsors10:58
Texasok so i open a temrinal and i coppy and paste what10:58
The_ManU_212MementoMori: dont you know about this kded bug?10:58
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kronicKoHhmm the convo in here is abundant11:11
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kronicKoHSTOP JOINING ND LEAVING DAMN11:30
vbgunzanyone have a clue how to reset khotkey entries in keyboard shortcuts?11:34
snake99hello ladies and gentlemen11:37
snake99bye ladies and gentlemen11:38
ActionParsnipyo yo yo11:59
Duesentriebhi all. since my last update, i no longer see the "supsend" or "hibernate" options anywhere. this is *very* annoying, i don't want to have to repboot all the time.12:00
Duesentriebany clue why this would happen or how to fix it?12:00
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: let me websearch12:02
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-May/145254.html12:03
DuesentriebActionParsnip: thanks. uh... xserver-xgl? how's that related? and why did it only happen now after updating two days ago?... odd.12:04
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: are you using nvidia vga?12:04
Duesentriebyes.12:04
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: then its not needed, maybe it was part of a metapackage12:05
Duesentriebwhat is not needed, exactly?12:05
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb:  I removed xserver-xgl and the "suspend" and "hibernate" buttons re-appeared.12:06
DuesentriebActionParsnip: i don't have that installed.12:06
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: so i'd imagine removing the package xserver-xgl12:06
Duesentriebi have no package matchgin *cxgl* at all.12:06
Duesentrieberr, *xgl*12:06
StR|Sangrealhello12:06
StR|Sangreal2 questions:12:06
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: are you running compiz?12:07
Duesentriebno. but it's installed.12:07
Duesentriebwas going to play with it.12:07
StR|Sangreal1. i have a non critical error on boot, it delays the boot time and so... where can i find some logs that willll tell whats going on?12:07
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: dmesg | less12:07
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: let me search more12:08
StR|Sangrealok, executed, sth is running12:09
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: its one of your kernel / system logs12:09
DuesentriebActionParsnip: fwiw, i have powerdevil installed (worked nicely until now) and powernowd12:09
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: could try reinstalling those12:10
AndrewMohawkHi, i have an application that i use on a kubuntu server and i would like to know if someone could please link me to a tutorial on how i could create my own rep so that i can update the app (scripts will change as well as config files, new + deleting etc) myself simply by doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade12:10
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: tbh, i dont use hibernate / suspend as they are a PITA to get nice12:10
StR|SangrealActionParsnip: pls i cant see anything suspicious in there and i am probably not able to fix that12:10
StR|SangrealActionParsnip: could i paste you some bootlog (no clue where such a thing is) so that you have a look?12:11
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: well that log will detail everything waking up and getting configured12:11
DuesentriebActionParsnip: they just worked for me with (finally, on this box). until i upgraded. now they are just gone. which is a *bit* annoying.12:11
StR|Sangrealit occured on boot, told that sth wont be fixed automatically, and the boot continued12:11
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: is thing thing dual booting?12:12
Duesentriebyes.,12:12
Duesentriebwell, i don't use the wqindows partition, but it's still there12:12
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: then it should be in that log if there is an error12:12
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: is it hibernated or suspended?12:12
Duesentriebhuh? the windows? no.12:12
StR|Sangrealmaybe, but i cannot deduce anything of that12:13
StR|Sangrealand its enormous in size12:13
Duesentriebcouldn't imagine why that would be relevant either12:13
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: some windows stuff "holds" hardware and makes it weird12:13
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: yep, its what your kernel has done since it came up12:13
StR|SangrealActionParsnip: could i paste you some file content so that you may have a look of what went wrong?12:14
StR|Sangrealthe error ocurred before kdm was launched12:14
DuesentriebActionParsnip: it "holds" hardware across a cold boot? scary. but as i said, it worked fine until i upgraded. didn't touch windows for weeks.12:14
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: just read down and look for errors and warning12:14
Duesentriebalso, i actually suspect it still works. the options are simply missing.12:15
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: i'm not to clued up on gnome, maybe if you head into the power options there may be an option to enable / disable hibernation etc which you could set OR unset then reset12:15
kronicKoH1YOU ALL SUCK!!!12:16
kronicKoH1.....12:16
kronicKoH1through straws12:16
Duesentriebgnome?...12:16
ActionParsnipoh im crazy12:16
ActionParsnipd'oh12:16
ActionParsniphttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=47798112:17
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StR|SangrealActionParsnip: i dont get anything suspicious12:19
StR|Sangrealhowever i boot over 80 seconds instead of initial 4812:19
DuesentriebActionParsnip: sounds similar, but i *am* using kdm, and I don't see a solution posted there :(12:19
DuesentriebActionParsnip: thanks for looking, anyway12:20
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/27671112:20
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: i'd suggest a memtestand an fsck12:20
StR|Sangreali dont understand :/12:21
DuesentriebActionParsnip: that's at loeast a file to look at. though i do wonder why it would break during an update.12:21
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: check your ram from grub and run a disk check from either root console oR the menu for recovery mode for your kernel12:21
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: check in systemsettings for power options see if theres anything intelligent in there12:22
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: updates change files, why not that one :)12:22
StR|Sangrealok that cannot be at harm12:23
StR|Sangrealthe second thing:12:23
DuesentriebActionParsnip: that file has both sleep and hibernat enabled. powerdevil settings look fine, but they mainly refer to actions to be performed when bat is low, etc.12:23
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: try disabling it, then re-eabling it12:24
StR|Sangrealhow can i install widgets of kde, apple and google if they are not in the default addons package?12:24
DuesentriebActionParsnip: how? i don't see an option for this12:25
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: install them and they will be available12:25
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: not sure, as I dont use this, maybe its some commenting out in that file. You'll have to dig around, or ask later on12:26
Duesentriebok. thanks anyway12:26
ActionParsnipnp man12:26
StR|Sangrealhow should i install them?12:27
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: well what is it that you are exactly after12:27
StR|Sangrealkde-look.org plasmoids (not included in kdeplasma-addons), and some google gadgets12:27
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: right click desktop -> add widget (may need to unlock them first)12:28
StR|Sangrealand i need some system performance monitor and a suitable weather forecast docklet12:28
StR|Sangrealand a dock indeed12:28
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: you need to compile them from what i can see12:29
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: or they are .plasmoid12:29
DuesentriebActionParsnip: when i tell it to suspend when i close tthe lid, it does, i just tried. the issue is really only that the opotiosn asre no longer in the menu. is is *really* annyoing :/ i could probably do it from tthe shellm, but i don't know what command toi use...12:29
varghesedo ppl here chat here about anything other than kubuntu ???12:30
ActionParsnipvarghese: no as its offtopic12:30
ActionParsnip!ot | varghese12:30
ubottuvarghese: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:30
Duesentriebactually, pm-suspend does the trick. that'S at least something.12:31
varghesehow do i join kubuntu-offtopic12:31
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: i would imagine you can double click a .plasmoid file to install it12:31
Duesentriebvarghese: /join #kubuntu-offtopic12:31
ActionParsnipvarghese: /j #kubuntu-offtopic12:31
StR|Sangrealok i would seek for such formats12:32
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: could have it as an executable script on the desktop12:33
DuesentriebActionParsnip: yes. that would be a workaround. i still wonder wtf is going wroing though12:33
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: you can compile any you need though, there are weather based one andother such goodies in a defaul install12:33
Duesentriebi'd rather find the case. but i'm glad to know a woprkaround, of course12:33
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: not a scooby mate, log a bug12:33
varghesewhich is the latest nvidia driver that is out12:33
DuesentriebActionParsnip: askin on #kde first.- but then i will12:34
ActionParsnip!find nvidia-glx-18012:34
ubottuFound: nvidia-glx-180, nvidia-glx-180-dev12:34
ActionParsnipvarghese: not all cards are supported by the 180 driver12:34
varghesek12:34
vbgunzanybody know how to get the system tray to have a solid black background?12:34
ActionParsnipvarghese: my 6150 doesnt like it and i use the 17712:34
vargheseme too12:34
varghese610012:34
ActionParsnipvbgunz: its a desktop effect, if you turn them ff it goes solid so I'd imagine its something in that12:35
ActionParsnipvarghese: its a fine card, just not all singing bells and whistles12:35
varghesewhich is the best DC client12:35
ActionParsnip!best | varghese12:35
ubottuvarghese: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.12:35
ActionParsnipvarghese: in life there is no BEST anything12:35
ActionParsnip!info dcgui12:37
ubottudcgui (source: dcgui): Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 437 kB, installed size 1304 kB12:37
ActionParsnipits gnome based12:37
ActionParsnip!info valknut12:38
ubottuvalknut (source: valknut): graphical client for Direct Connect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1 (intrepid), package size 958 kB, installed size 3320 kB12:38
ActionParsnipyay12:38
ActionParsnipvarghese: theres one to try12:39
ActionParsnip!info dc-qt12:39
ubottudc-qt (source: dc-qt): GUI frontend for the dc protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0.alpha-4 (intrepid), package size 814 kB, installed size 2500 kB12:39
vbgunzI've asked this question almost everyday if not *every* other day. how do you reset/restore the entire in khotkeys? I have many duplicates. anyone know how to fix this up?12:40
ActionParsnip!info khotkeys12:40
ubottuPackage khotkeys does not exist in intrepid12:41
Duesentriebhm, there's a biggish qt update in the pipe. perhaps that will fix it. or it will break more stuff.12:41
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: you will have to wait and see ;)12:41
ActionParsnipubuntu == no warranty12:41
Duesentrieblooking at http://forums.opensuse.org/install-boot-login/387968-no-suspend-kmenu-2.html12:42
ActionParsnipDuesentrieb: least you arent alone12:43
Lummoxx_vbgunz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/25333712:43
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RieshDoes anybody know if Kubuntu will get such a groovy grub menu as OpenSuse ? ...12:43
ActionParsnipRiesh: do you mean like this? http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/0/0d/103_grub.png12:44
RieshActionParsnip: ... Yes ... version 11.1 now has something grey at the top ... nice contrast that gives12:45
StR|Sangrealactionparsnip: how should i install this app? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+System+Monitor?content=8666412:46
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: it says exactly how to install it on the site you gave12:47
ActionParsnipRiesh: im unsure, if you check the grub config on an opensuse system you may find how it is setup12:47
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: it even tells you the packages yu need to install too12:48
Rieshsee what i mean .... http://images.howtoforge.com/images/perfect_server_opensuse11.1/big/1.jpg12:48
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: id say that page was about as complete as you can physically get12:48
Lupus-SLEGuys... I have pondered this question for many moons, and have not come to a succesful conclusion... but how the feck do I get KMix and KNetworkManager to STOP starting up when I log in? I'm struggling to find any in the startup folders under my home's .kde folder12:48
Rieshjust would be nice if Kubuntu has something like this as standard ...12:49
ActionParsnipRiesh: or look on an open suse cd to see how that is configured, an installed system would be more precise imho12:49
ActionParsnipRiesh: submit it as a bug and it will be moved to desirable12:49
vbgunzLummoxx_: the last post there says "Fix released to Jaunty. (And to intrepid via the kubuntu-experimental ppa packages)" ... I am on the latest Jaunty and see this. this has not been fixed nor does it try to fix itself. thank you for pointing that out but it doesn't help me :(12:49
RieshOK, might do that ... looks betetr as such text grub menu :-)12:49
ActionParsnipRiesh: i never see mine, it just boots the newest kernel in after 2 seconds timeout12:50
Lummoxx_vbgunz: then it's likely that nobody has your answer, and you should update the bug with your information, so that they know it still may be a problem.12:50
ActionParsniplupine_85: you could have a script in .kde to killall kmix; killall network-manager or whatever its called in ps -ef12:51
Rieshwell i am not really sure what it will be in Jaunty .... because i have a quadrupal booting computer (Fedora, OpenSuse, Kubuntu Jaunty and WinXP),,, with OpenSuse grub ...12:51
vbgunzLummoxx_: yeah, I'd hate to open a new bug or that bug and it turns out there is something wrong on my end :/12:52
Anil_what's the password for the default "root" user12:53
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Rieshthere is no passwd for root12:53
ActionParsnip!root | Anil_12:53
ubottuAnil_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo12:53
bazhangAnil_, use sudo12:53
ActionParsnipAnil_: you dont need it either. just sudo / kdesudo for everthing yuo need admin power for12:54
Riesh"sudo -i" to become root12:54
bazhangvery rarely12:54
ActionParsnipRiesh: just dont launch gui apps from that, it doesnt configure the environment correctly12:55
Lummoxx_Ancient wise tech says, when you know how to be root without sudo, then you will know the password to root.12:55
Anil_here's the prob...i recently deleted  the default account...im trying to use the other non-privelaged user account but im not able to run any of the superuser commands12:55
Rieshtrue ...12:55
shadeslayer:P12:55
bazhang:)12:55
ActionParsnipAnil_: yikes12:56
Anil_:)12:56
Dr_willisYou need to use a live cd, or rescue mode to fix the sudo rights of the new account then.12:56
RieshAnil_ start in single user mode and add yourself the new account to the admin group12:56
ActionParsnipDr_willis: ooh i'm all curious, tell us a story :)12:56
Dr_willis'never delete the initial user, and live happialy ever after, the end.'12:57
Anil_but im not even able to open kuser since it requires sudo previlages12:57
ActionParsnipAnil_: if you boot to recovery console for your kernel, ten select root console you will be root, you can then add one of the none priveledged accounts to the admin group12:57
ActionParsnip!adduser12:57
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo12:57
Riesh!sudo12:58
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)12:58
Lupus-SLEHow the feck do I get KMix and KNetworkManager to STOP starting up when I log in? I'm struggling to find any in the startup folders under my home's .kde folder12:58
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/loading-a-program-at-startup-164742/12:59
bazhangLupus-SLE, do you need them?12:59
DuesentriebLupus-SLE: if you right-click on the network-manager and tell it to quit, i asks you if it should start automatically... at least for me.12:59
Lupus-SLEbazhang:  No, which is why I want them to die in a fire!13:00
DuesentriebLupus-SLE: or at least, it did. until recently. uh...13:00
bazhangLupus-SLE, why not uninstall them13:00
RieshLupus-SLE: apt-get --purge remove13:00
Lupus-SLEHmm.... you have a good point...13:00
Lupus-SLEThat said... Kmix does come in handy time to time...13:00
Anil_thx...13:01
Lupus-SLEknetworkmanager I could probably kill, but then I feel that'd be negating the actual issue...13:01
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: i always rip it out, i manualy edit the interfaces file13:02
Lupus-SLEHmmm13:03
Lupus-SLEIt shall be done!13:03
Lupus-SLEActionParsnip: Right... now I'm screwed...13:05
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: why?13:05
Lupus-SLEAccording to adept, the package knetworkmanager isn't installed13:05
Lupus-SLEYet... the program is quite clearly there13:05
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: ps -ef | grep manage13:06
* ActionParsnip uses the linux standard ps command :D13:06
Lupus-SLEAye... it exists13:07
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: kill it dead13:07
vbgunzLummoxx_: I may have solved it after all. I need to log out to test though, brb13:07
Lupus-SLEStopping it isn't the issue, autostart IS13:08
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: when you uninstall it  it will be removed from the startup sequence13:08
Lupus-SLEUpon quit, no option for autostart is given13:08
Lupus-SLEBut... how?13:08
Lupus-SLEIt doesn't appear to be part of the knetworkmanager package...13:08
Lupus-SLEI don't know what package it is in13:08
RieshLupus-SLE apt-get --purge remove network-manager-kde13:09
Lupus-SLERight... it's dead Dave13:11
StR|Sangrealpls how can i install the following widget13:11
StR|Sangrealhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+System+Monitor?content=8666413:11
Lupus-SLEDoesn't quite explain why Kmix is still alive...13:12
Lupus-SLEWell... I mean... I don't want to uninstall it, I just want it to die horribly in a fire if it ever tries to start upon login13:12
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: you could make a script to run killall kmix when your system logs in13:13
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: not graceful, let me websearch13:13
StR|Sangrealparsnip, pls how should i install that?13:13
Lupus-SLEYes, but that would be a really... really... scruffy way of doing it13:14
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: its there. I can copy and paste the lines if you want13:14
ActionParsnipLupus-SLE: true13:14
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: are you being serious?13:14
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: download the file it says: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/86664-oxygen.skz13:15
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: Right click on desktop, Add Widgets, Select "Install new widgets", Select "Install from file" , select the file you downloaded, Click finish13:16
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: you will also need to run: sudo apt-get install hddtemp lm_sensors13:16
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: I LITERALLY copied and pasted that from the page you just gave me13:17
StR|Sangrealactionparsnip, dont misunderstand me13:17
StR|Sangrealbut it doesnt accept files except .plasmoid and .zip13:17
StR|Sangreali have even tried to rename, i canot install it through the wizard13:18
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: then you should have said that rather than "how can I install thihs"13:18
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: its a superkaramba file13:19
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: http://www.nabble.com/installing-plasmoids-td21659482.html13:19
Dr_willisdoes SuperKaramba even work with KDE 4?13:19
ActionParsnip!find superkara13:20
ubottuFound: superkaramba13:20
ActionParsnip!info superkaramba13:20
ubottusuperkaramba (source: kdeutils): SuperKaramba theme support for the KDE 4 Plasma desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 (intrepid), package size 382 kB, installed size 1292 kB13:20
ActionParsniptry it is all I can suggest13:20
Lupus-SLEWhy would you use it?13:22
Dr_willisIf you want to use SuperKaramba widgits - you need superkaramba..13:22
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Dr_willisbut i would suggest Not even messing with SuperKaramba13:22
Lupus-SLEit's a slightly more bloaty and less integrated version of Plasma, it has no use in KDE 413:22
Dr_willisI never ever saw it work very well in kde 3 either.13:22
ActionParsnipconky ftw :D13:22
MaGicKangaRoo!info slang113:23
ubottuPackage slang1 does not exist in intrepid13:24
MaGicKangaRoo!info patch13:24
ubottupatch (source: patch): Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-5 (intrepid), package size 97 kB, installed size 208 kB13:24
Dr_willis!find slang13:24
ubottuFound: libslang2, libslang2-dev, libslang2-pic, libterm-slang-perl, slang-cfitsio (and 12 others)13:24
MaGicKangaRoooh thanks13:24
MaGicKangaRoo!info libslang213:24
ubottulibslang2 (source: slang2): The S-Lang programming library - runtime version. In component main, is required. Version 2.1.3-3ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 450 kB, installed size 1120 kB13:24
anil_How to add users to sudoers file??13:25
Dr_willisbefor messign with the sudoers files its a VERY VERY VERY good idea to read up on 'sudoers'13:25
Dr_willisone normally uses visudo I think to edit that file.13:26
Dr_willissudo has a lot more features then 'just the command you do to  run admin stuff' :)13:26
norenhi all13:27
Dr_willisHowdies13:27
anil_i just created a system user using adduser in the recovey  root console...now after i login im not able to any sudo cmds...13:28
norengot a problem here sincce yestarday13:28
StR|Sangrealactionparsnip, thanks for your patience, i am contented with the result :)13:28
anil_it says "u're not in the sudoers file"13:28
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: sweet13:28
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: please be precise when requesting help13:29
ActionParsnipStR|Sangreal: saves confusion13:29
noreni was able to update to kde4.2 yestarday, but after that my pulse audio haad stoped and i cant get any sound in the vid files13:29
anil_Dr_willis: ^^13:30
anil_Dr_willis: any sugestions13:30
Dr_willishow did you create a 'system' user?13:30
leon_hi all, can anyone here PLS help with a Yukon nic wierd prob?13:30
anil_using the --system option13:30
norenis three any channel for multimedia queries here13:30
Dr_willisanil_,  cant say that ive ever done that.. Most likely the user needs tobe set to be in the proper groups.13:31
ActionParsnip!adduser13:32
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo13:32
anil_what's the default group???i remember seeing is say that the user was crreated in goup called nogroups...13:32
anil_seeing it* say13:32
Dr_willisI notice my user is in the  admin group13:33
Dr_willisgrep /etc/groups  willis   ---> admin:x:123:willis    + other groups13:33
anil_ok then i'll try adding the user to the admin group...hope that adds me into the sudoers file...13:34
anil_rebooted my system like 8 times now:)13:34
Dr_willisits not 'adding you to the sudoers file' the admin group IS in the sudoers  settings.. I think13:34
Dr_willis# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges13:35
Dr_willis%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL13:35
anil_ok then...13:35
anil_here goes13:35
Dr_willisand you really dont need to reboot to test it. You could login as a 'user' and seeif they can sudo in a different console.13:36
shadeslayerhey anybody have an XPS here??13:37
shadeslayerDell XPS M1530 that is13:37
Dr_willisthats a little more specific at least. :) Dell makles a lot of XPS's variants13:38
shadeslayerwell i want to test this software,http://www.upek.com/solutions/pc_and_networking/sdks/linux/13:38
shadeslayerright now my connection is banged up with some updates13:38
vbgunzLummoxx_: I solved it.13:41
vbgunzLummoxx_: I had to be out of KDE to do it but I I got rid of the duplicates and Print now seems to work across sessions13:42
BluesKajHowdy13:44
shadeslayerso nobody here with an XPS :(13:44
shadeslayerBTW why does bluetooth crash everytime when i switch my device off13:45
StR|Sangrealnow i have to install a plasmoid from tar.bz2 file, apparently a source code13:45
StR|Sangrealhow shall i proceed?13:45
BluesKajStR|Sangreal, tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2, then in the folder that command creates look for a README textfile. It has instructions how to proceed.13:47
BluesKajStR|Sangreal , before doing the command , make the app executable by right clicking on it and choosing permissions, then check the executable box13:48
StR|Sangreali am just seeking for some weather forecast widget13:50
shadeslayeranybody here with a XPS M1530+Kubuntu 8.10????13:50
StR|Sangrealbut i am rather worried instaling from source code so if sb could advise me a more user friendly app...13:50
BluesKajok, if you can find one StR|Sangreal13:51
Tengeni am giving away my old laptop with a linux/windows dual boot. I need to make Windows the defualt OS in grub. How do i go that?13:55
shadeslayerTengen: Kubuntu??13:55
shadeslayerTengen: K>system settings>advanced tab>GRUB editor13:55
Tengenoh wait, i went to the wrong one, i have Xubuntu13:56
shadeslayerTengen: try finding GRUB editor13:57
shadeslayeritll be in syslytem settings probab13:57
shadeslayer*probably13:57
Tengennot finding it in there13:58
shadeslayerand #xubuntu13:58
Tengenheaded there now13:58
shadeslayerthey can tell you better13:58
shadeslayer:)13:58
BluesKajxubuntu use xfce desktop , so the instructions here won't be applicable14:01
anil_kumarDr_willis: Hi...im back.14:02
norenhow can i get my pulseaudio to work inn kde4.2 or is therre something else that i have to use14:02
anil_kumarDr_willis: that didnt work14:02
Tengenunless there something i can do through terminal14:02
Dr_williswe have short term memory here.. I suggest ya summareize  the problem again anil_kumar14:03
norenright now i can only see the media but cant hear them14:03
anil_kumarDr_willis: ok fair enough14:03
anil_kumari had some prob logging in14:03
BluesKajnoren , use alsa14:03
anil_kumari created a new user in th recovery root console14:03
anil_kumarusing adduser14:04
BluesKaj!alsa | noren14:04
ubottunoren: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP314:04
anil_kumarbut still i wasnt able to execute the sudo commands14:04
norenBluesKaj: wil i have to install separate pacakge to use them14:05
anil_kumarthen i re-did the entire thing but this time i used --system option...so a system user was created but still i souldnt do what i wanted to do14:05
Rieshanil_kumar: Take a look at this explanation: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/14:05
BluesKajeewwuuu, somebody should update those instructions to Intrepid , that looks like 7.1014:05
BluesKajnoren , open a terminal and type alsamixer , make sure all the ctrls that you intend to use are set at at least 67-71% , and unmute them eith the M key14:07
Rieshanil_kumar: the admin group is "adm"14:07
BluesKajeith = with14:07
anil_kumaroh cool...that was missing.14:07
anil_kumaralso now that i've created the acc in a group called admin14:08
anil_kumarit says unable to open kstartupmanager414:08
anil_kumaris ther any explanation for that14:08
BluesKajnoren , no seperate pkg needed ,alsa installs with kubuntu by default14:08
BluesKajsomebody should update those "sound" instructions to Intrepid , that looks like 7.1014:09
anil_kumarhello...^^14:09
norenBluesKaj: my problem is that i can hear sound while playing amarok, but i cant hear anything while playing any vid file14:09
bazhangnoren at the same time?14:10
Rieshanil_kumar: Not sure what you mean .... kstartupmanager4 doesn't give any google results14:10
norenbazhang: both at the same time and separate time14:10
anil_kumarRjesh: when i login to my newly created acc that was the error msg i got...14:11
anil_kumarget*14:11
BluesKajoh ok , noren that's different . Open adept and choose sources , edit sources / third party sources tab , enable them all , except for the cdrom box14:11
bazhangnoren what video? flash?14:11
shadeslayeranybody here with a XPS M1530+Kubuntu 8.10??14:11
shadeslayereh this was the last time,i give up14:12
norenbazhang: avi files14:12
BluesKajnoren , then in the terminal , sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libk3b3-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg14:13
anil_kumarRiesh: ^^14:13
leon_wierd! - NIC connected directly to router works perfectly. However, when connected to switch the same interface (with updated settings) toggles up and down, up and down!!?14:13
norenBluesKaj: i had also installed vlc but its also showing only vid but no audio14:13
Rieshanil_kumar: Not sure ... betetr make a new account in single user mode and do a "useradd -G adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin <username>"14:14
leon_anyone had a similar problem?14:14
BluesKajnoren, did you do the above ?14:14
norenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/120596/ << i aleaady have them14:15
anil_kumarRiesh: are all those options really necessary14:15
Rieshanil_kumar: that are not options but additional groups which a standard account will get14:16
norenBluesKaj: everything was working fine in kubuntu8.10 it happened after updating to kde4.214:18
norennow it says pulse audio not working/supported14:18
anil_kumark got it14:18
anil_kumarthx14:18
BluesKajyes noren, use alsa as I suggested14:19
norenBluesKaj: please tell me how to go about it14:19
BluesKajnoren read above , I gave instructions to yo earlier about alsa14:20
Tengenok getting infor in #xubuntu takes forevar. I need to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to make windows the default OS. which parts do i need to edit?14:22
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BluesKajTengen , is there a grub edit option in system settings ?14:23
Tengenno14:23
RieshTengen: ... have wubi install or on it's own partion?14:24
Tengeni have xubuntu installed on a seperate partition14:24
RieshThen look at the line beginning with "default"14:24
norenalsamixer not working14:25
Riesh0 is the first OS-option, 1 the second and so on14:25
Tengenahh, so i have three options for linux and then windows, windows would be 3?14:26
BluesKajnoren, are the controls unmuted ?14:26
RieshYes ... i think so14:26
Dr_willis3 menu items.. would be 0, 1, 2 in grub defaults14:26
Dr_willisGrub starts counting at ZERO14:26
Dr_willisalso the 'comment' lines may count.14:26
norenBluesKaj: the alsamixer never started14:27
Dr_willisso at the grub menu..  start at the top.. arrow down to the one ya want..  and count the # of times you have to hit the down arrow key14:27
BluesKajdid you type alsamixer in the terminal14:27
norenyes14:27
BluesKajnothing ?14:27
norenwhile typing it is showing two option one with gui and one without but choosing any wont staart anything14:28
BluesKajdo you know waht i mean by the terminal/Konsole , noren ?14:29
BluesKajalsamixer doesn't "start", it's a daemon ..always on14:30
noreni tped there also14:30
Dr_willis'alsamixer' run a  ncurses based mixer application here by default in the termianl window :)14:31
norenalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory << it says14:31
Dr_willissounds like the sound card may be missconfigured.14:31
BluesKajyup14:31
noren**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****14:32
norencard 1: default [PnP Audio Device        ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]14:32
noren  Subdevices: 0/114:32
noren  Subdevice #0: subdevice #014:32
Dr_willisive never used a usb audio device.. so no idea what ones are even supported.14:32
BluesKajnoren, in the terminal, lspci | grep audio14:32
BluesKajor aplay -l14:33
norenlspci | grep audio << gives nothing << above i gave you the output of aplay -l14:33
BluesKajnoren, cat /proc/asound/cards14:34
noren1 [default        ]: USB-Audio - PnP Audio Device14:34
noren                      PnP Audio Device         at usb-0000:00:02.0-7, full speed14:34
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BluesKajthat's not a regular audiocard setup noren, I've never encountered that before so I don't know haow how to help14:37
noreni have on board audio, no separatee card as such14:37
norenleme gogle out some about this14:38
BluesKajwell noren , your system isn't detecting onboard, you must have it disabled in the BIOS peripherals14:39
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ActionParsniphey guys14:40
norenbut everything was fine in kubuntu 8.10 and also my amarok is playing fine ???14:41
Tengenok, got the grub menu fixed, now: is there any way to format the linux partitions to NTFS with out using a boot14:41
ActionParsnipi got an issue with konsole colours. As a normal user in konsole (and yakuake) I get no file / folder colours highlighting file types, however if I sudo -i and ls a folder, there are colours again, can anyone please advise?14:41
ActionParsnip!ntfs-tools14:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-tools14:42
ActionParsnip!find ntfs14:42
ubottuFound: libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g28, libntfs-dev, libntfs10, ntfs-3g (and 5 others)14:42
ActionParsnipTengen: apt-cache search ntfs14:42
ActionParsnipTengen: as long as the partition can be unmounted, it can be formatted14:42
Tengenok, what about the root partition?14:43
ActionParsnipTengen: formatting will destroy all the data on the partition14:43
Tengenyes i know14:43
Tengengiving away the computer to someone who haz no idea what linux is let alone how to use it14:43
ActionParsnipTengen: if its mounted, you can't format it, the root partition will be mounted so you can use the system so will not be formatable14:44
ActionParsnipTengen: i'd perform a clean install and setup all the hardware and drivers14:44
Tengenwell the CD drive is broke and i'm not buying a new one14:44
BluesKajTengen , use GParted ..DL and burn it to a cd , it will come in handy for partiton editing14:44
Tengenand it's doesn't support usb booting14:44
ActionParsnipTengen: got a 1Gb USB stick handy? You can install from that14:44
ActionParsnipbah14:44
Tengenlol, it's too old14:45
BluesKajTengen , cdrom drives are cheap 35bucks14:45
ActionParsnipTengen: how many partitions do you have?14:45
Tengenbah, they never need the extra 20gigs anyway14:45
Tengen314:45
geniiGet a rom-o-matic floppy boot disk and install over network14:45
Tengenone for linux, one form windows, and one for media/games and so forth14:45
noren_BluesKaj: As soon as get in the kdm theres a notification saying14:45
ActionParsnipTengen: you could put the ubuntu iso on a partition and tell grub to boot it, yo ucan then destroy the other 2 partitions once in the installer and reinstall14:46
noren_The Audio Device PulseAudio does not work falling back to pNp Audio14:46
ActionParsnipTengen: that, or take out the disk and put it in another pc and install ubuntu to it, then move it ack to its intended system14:46
ActionParsnip*back14:46
Tengenok, i might do that, but first, time to salvage some files14:46
Tengenthanks for the help14:47
ActionParsnipTengen: np man, theres always a way around, even if its not pretty14:47
BluesKajnoren, do you know what the onboard soundcard model# is ?14:49
norendont can i find out if i get in windows ??14:49
BluesKajyes noren, in my computer/devices14:50
ActionParsnipnoren: lspci will tell you14:53
norenlemme check and come back14:53
norenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/120608/ <<  lspci14:55
ActionParsniphas anyone ever lost konsole colourings for files?15:03
ActionParsnipall my files show in grey and their in no highlighting15:04
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Suikohi ActionParsnip15:13
ActionParsnipSuiko: hi15:13
Suikohow's it going how's rolling15:14
ActionParsnipstupid konsole isnt showing colour highlights15:15
ActionParsnipand its plain annoying15:15
ActionParsnipit will if i sudo -i15:16
mitsarionashi... how could I prevent my pc from sending its hostname to the router? is the send host-name "<hostname>"; line in dhclient.conf responsible?15:16
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: it has to send it for updating the routing table and arp afaik15:17
Suikonice weather today, isnt it?15:17
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: try it with an empty name to send, like a single space or a full stop15:18
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: actually, i'd put an A or a Z or something15:18
mitsarionasActionParsnip: nice thanx :)15:18
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: backup the file first and you can do anything15:19
mitsarionas:)15:19
biophysicscan I somehow use a konsole as a plasmoid on the desktop15:24
ActionParsniphahahahaha running yakuake on windows via forwarded x apps is the funniest thing ever15:24
ActionParsnipbiophysics: you could run yakuake, it brings a konsole up and down from the top of the screen when you press a hotkey15:25
ActionParsnipSuiko: got it going, copied roots and changed ownership :)15:26
mitsarionaswhat hotkey do you guys use for yakuake?15:26
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Rieshmitsarionas: default is `15:28
ActionParsnipmitsarionas: i use super + ` as i use ` quite abit15:29
ActionParsnip!bootoptions15:30
ubottuFor a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions15:30
mitsarionasi use super+a ... super+` seems good too15:31
willow...15:32
willowhi guys, got a prob... just installed kubuntu 8.10, can't listen to mp3 files but dunno the codec i need 2 install, can u help me?15:33
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ActionParsnip!mp3 \ willow15:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 \ willow15:34
ActionParsnip!mp3 | willow15:34
ubottuwillow: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:34
BluesKajwillow , libxine1-ffmpeg and libk3b3-extracodecs15:34
willowBluesKaj thanks a lot15:34
Rieshwillow: kubuntu-restricted-extras15:35
peacesarahhi rooom15:35
jxanderi have ubuntu intrepid and i'm trying to install the kubuntu-desktop package, but i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/120624/ . please help15:35
ActionParsnipjxander: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.215:38
ActionParsnipjxander: add that repo, then install15:38
ActionParsnip!bootoptions15:40
ubottuFor a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions15:40
ActionParsnipjxander: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop15:41
jxanderActionParsnip: thanks... i'll add it right now :) so my problem was that canonical didn't include the latest version?15:41
ActionParsnipjxander: no, I think you have to get the ppa one, Jaunty wil include kde4.215:42
khalidmiani have avast antivirus linux in kubuntu which scans all my drives including windows just wondering if theres a way for me to put it in autostartand autoscan in background15:42
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: can it be run from cli?15:43
khalidmiancli?15:43
ActionParsnip!cli15:43
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal15:44
khalidmianActionParsnip: sorry what is cli15:44
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: ubottu just told you15:44
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: you know when you use terminal, thats cli...Command Line Interface15:44
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: just like ubottu said15:45
khalidmianActionParsnip: should i open term and write sudo run avast15:45
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: if avast can be executed via command line you could run it in your terminal with a '&' on the end to put it in the background, the terminal must stay open for the scan to run15:46
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khalidmianActionParsnip: thanks for info so the command should be : sudo run avast&15:46
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: i dont know, you'll have to read the readme andman pages15:46
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: i very much doubt its sudo run avast15:47
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darkmoonhii15:47
darkmoonE: No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso temporalmente no disponible)15:47
darkmoonE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?15:47
ActionParsnip!fixapt | darkmoon15:48
ubottudarkmoon: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:48
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: try: avast --help15:48
darkmoonnice let me try15:48
Picilamo15:48
Picier, wrong window. Sorry.15:48
andreia15:49
DiskACEHello friends, i need help15:50
andreiwhat with ?15:50
DiskACEkdm15:50
DiskACEafter adept upgrade15:50
khalidmianActionParsnip: lol sorry im laughing but honestly its all greek to me15:50
geniiDiskACE: A better description of the issue might help15:50
DiskACEi believe to 4.215:50
DiskACEwhen i reboot kdm is missing15:51
DiskACE./etc/init.d/kdm is still present but won't launch15:51
DiskACEwhen i try to reinstall apt-get install kdm it say broken package15:51
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: thats ow you can scan from command line15:52
DiskACEi am not sure what i should do to get kdm back up and running now15:52
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: i dont have it installed so I cant directly advise, you could pastebin the output15:52
geniiDiskACE: You went from kde 3 to 4.2  or from 4.1(or so) to 4.2 ?15:53
khalidmianActionParsnip: if i make a shell script where to i place it and how15:53
DiskACE4.1 to 4.215:53
khalidmianActionParsnip: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27141.1515:53
ActionParsnip!info kwin15:53
ubottukwin (source: kdebase-workspace): the KDE 4 window manager (KWin). In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid3 (intrepid), package size 38 kB, installed size 304 kB15:53
ActionParsnip!info fluxbox15:54
ubottufluxbox (source: fluxbox): Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0+deb1-8 (intrepid), package size 895 kB, installed size 3584 kB15:54
khalidmianActionParsnip: also i want avast to scan all system not just $home15:54
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: there you go, you answered your own question15:54
geniiDiskACE: If you try at command line: sudo kdm                           it chokes also ?15:55
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: to scan from cli: sudo avast-update; sudo avast ~ &15:55
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: that will run avast in the background of the terminal, but dont close it or the scan will die15:55
DiskACEprogram is currently not install15:55
DiskACEinstalled15:55
DiskACEand when i try to install: apt-get install kdm it say broken package15:56
ActionParsnipDiskACE: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdm15:56
geniiDiskACE: The box has internet?15:56
geniiBah, work...AFK15:56
DiskACEyes15:56
DiskACE--reinstall install kdm does not work15:56
DiskACEsame error15:56
ActionParsnipDiskACE: can you give a pastebin of the output of my command please15:56
DiskACEhummmm maybe15:57
ActionParsnip!paste15:57
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:57
DiskACEwith lynx ?15:57
Pici!info pastebinit15:57
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-1 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 88 kB15:57
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: that command will scan your home directory, if you want to scan elsewhere, change the option15:58
DiskACEnice15:58
DiskACEok ... one minute15:58
sandGorgonhi guys.. installing a lean kde from ubuntu minimal. I dont have startkde - what should I install to get it ?16:01
khalidmianActionParsnip: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27141.15  - theres something on this link on creating a shell script only i dont know how i make one16:01
DiskACEhttp://pastebin.com/f2bf153b916:02
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: a shell script is a text file with a special line at the top, it is also marked as excutable16:02
khalidmianActionParsnip: do i make a shell script in terminal?16:02
DiskACEnot sure if that help16:02
DiskACEnever used pastebinit16:02
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: you can make it in any text editor, the post you sent hasa script you can use16:02
ActionParsnipPici: how can we get a pastebin of apt-get errors?16:03
PiciActionParsnip: er16:03
ActionParsnipPici: is it apt-get upgrade 2>pastebinit16:03
khalidmianActionParsnip: Ok so i open text editor and then paste script and then save it where?16:04
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: anywhere you want16:04
khalidmianActionParsnip: save as what?16:04
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: anything you want, its your script16:04
khalidmianActionParsnip: and how do i run the text that i make16:04
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: then you must use sudo chmod +x <the script you made>  to make it executable16:05
khalidmianActionParsnip: never madea scrit 1st time16:05
DiskACEpastebinit -i apt-get --reinstall install kdm16:05
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: then when you launch it from konsole, it will run as a proram...or script16:05
DiskACEnot working :P16:05
DiskACEnot sure about the syntax though16:05
ActionParsnipDiskACE: maybe its    cat `apt-get upgrade` | pastebinit16:06
DiskACEapparently16:07
sandGorgonguys some help please..... installing a lean kde from ubuntu minimal. I dont have startkde - what should I install to get it ?16:07
DiskACEapt-get --reinstall install kdm | pastebinit16:07
ActionParsnipsandGorgon: did you run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop16:07
DiskACEhttp://pastebin.com/f43a5876316:08
DiskACEhere ya go16:08
sandGorgonActionParsnip: no.. that is precisely what I dont want. i want the minimal stuff , so I got kdebase, kde-plasma, kdelibs, kwin, kdm16:09
ActionParsnipDiskACE: try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop16:09
khalidmianActionParsnip: ok so i did sudo chmod +x avast16:09
DiskACEnot working16:09
DiskACEalready try16:09
DiskACEyou want the pasterbin ?16:09
khalidmianActionParsnip: the name of my script is called avast16:09
DiskACEpastebin16:09
ActionParsnipsandGorgon: try: apt-file search startkde16:10
draik_My Kubuntu partition keeps on freezing when I run an app within KDE and Openbox. At times, I can't get to the login screen or I get the login screen, but freezes during the KDE splash screen.16:10
khalidmianActionParsnip: how do i run it now?16:10
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: i'd call it something different, te program you are calling is called avast16:10
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: call it something like avast-scan16:10
DiskACEhttp://pastebin.com/f5389c17a16:10
ActionParsnipDiskACE: crazy stuff16:11
khalidmianActionParsnip: ok done and did chmod+x now what16:11
DiskACEyap16:11
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: run it with ./avast-scan16:11
Duesentriebto repost a question i posted a few hours ago: since an update a few days ago, kmenu now longer offers the option to suspend or hibernate. how do i fix this? power management seems to work fine when invoked explicitly.16:11
DiskACElooks like everything disappeared16:11
Duesentrieb http://forum.kde.org/how-does-hibernate-suspend-options-work-kde4-t-18837.html seems related16:11
ActionParsnipDiskACE: have you downloaded the deb files to your system yet?16:11
Duesentriebis it possible that said kubuntu patch borke?16:11
DiskACEActionParsnip: what you mean ?16:12
ActionParsnipDiskACE: well, did the deb files get downloaded from the web and now your system is refusing to instal them16:12
ActionParsnipDiskACE: or have they not even been attempted to e installed16:13
ActionParsnipkhalidmian: is it running?16:13
DiskACEActionParsnip not sure what to answer here but my guess is that according to the pastebin they have not been downloaded16:14
DiskACEActionParsnip normally when i talk about deb files it is through dpkg -i16:14
ActionParsnipDiskACE: cd /var/cache/apt I think it is16:14
ActionParsnipDiskACE: apt-get downloads debs from the repo and installs them for you, they are also left on your system in a acache which you can clear to save space16:15
DiskACEActionParsnip no .deb there except pastebin and lynx16:15
draik_I'm currently using TTY1 and want to find out what is causing the freeze.16:15
ActionParsnipdraik_: ps -ef | less16:16
ActionParsnipdraik_: or top16:16
DiskACEActionParsnip: i see, so in this case there are no .deb files so the system just refuse to download them i guess16:16
draik_ActionParsnip: I ran 'htop' and saw Frostwire sent CPU to 48.0% when it suddenly froze.16:17
ActionParsnipDiskACE: yeah its pretty much dug its heels in16:17
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sandGorgongot it... kdebase-workspace-bin16:17
ActionParsnip!fixapt16:17
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:17
khalidmianActionParsnip: so can i save this script to autorun when i strat kubuntu or something?16:17
ActionParsnipDiskACE: run that16:17
khalidmianActionParsnip: also in option 3 asks what dir to scan how do i tell it to scan whole system16:18
peacesarahhow do IRC work?16:18
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DiskACEActionParsnip: kdebase-workstation-bin ?16:19
ActionParsnip1damn pidgin16:19
ActionParsnip1anyhoo16:19
DiskACEor the fuser16:19
DiskACEsir multi-task ;)16:19
noren!pulseaudio16:19
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions16:19
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: if you move it to ~/.kde/Autostart it will run every time16:19
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: the scrip has a menu system though which you will have to humour every time you boot16:20
ActionParsnip1DiskACE: does the fixapt help any16:20
DiskACEActionParsnip: i ran the command but it does nothing16:20
khalidmianhmmm i was looking for a simplistic autostart to avast to run in background the script really doesnt help to be honest then16:21
ActionParsnip1DiskACE: you could also run: sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade16:21
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: then you dont need all that stuff in that script, you need like 3 lines16:21
draik_ActionParsnip: in 'htop' I have htop at the top with 2.0% CPU at most16:21
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: what do you want to scan at boot?16:21
ActionParsnip1draik_: any zombie processes?16:22
DiskACEActionParsnip: nothing to upgrade16:22
ActionParsnip1DiskACE: ok now try the installation16:22
* ActionParsnip1 crosses his everything16:22
khalidmianActionParsnip: i dont think avast linux will constantly run in background am i right?16:22
DiskACEActionParsnip i am sorry what command to you refer to ?16:22
draik_ActionParsnip1: None that I can see.16:22
ActionParsnip1draik_: hmm16:23
ActionParsnip1draik_: you could kill apps off until its ok16:23
khalidmianActionParsnip: i dont think avast linux will constantly run and scan in background am i right?16:23
shadeslayerkhalidmian: how did you install avast btw16:23
shadeslayerim thinking of installing it myse;f16:24
khalidmiansudo apt-get install avast16:24
shadeslayer*myself16:24
draik_ActionParsnip1: When I run firefox, it freezes instantly. The same goes for the other apps (frostwire, k3b, amarok, etc)16:24
khalidmianor go to avast website download deb  file and run it16:24
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: its not on the repos16:25
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-229128.html16:25
ActionParsnip1!info avast16:25
ubottuPackage avast does not exist in intrepid16:25
shadeslayersee i knew it16:25
vincenzoitaliani?16:25
khalidmianActionParsnip: sorry its a deb file on avast website for linux16:25
shadeslayeroh ok,that method i know16:25
shadeslayeri prefer CLI16:26
draik_!it | vincenzo16:26
ubottuvincenzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:26
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: it can scan from cli, its fairly pointless though unless you samba share to windows clients or run a mail server16:26
shadeslayeri mean i want to install through CLI16:27
shadeslayernaah i run wine thats why16:27
khalidmianActionParsnip: i seem to be able to see my windows dir via dolphin16:27
shadeslayerthey said i could get infected16:27
shadeslayerBS or truth?16:27
DiskACEActionParsnip: anything else i should try or i should wait patiently on ubuntuforums ?16:28
draik_ActionParsnip1: Should it matter that I have a bunch of /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon?16:29
ActionParsnip1draik_: not sure dude, have a websearch16:30
ActionParsnip1draik_: maybe someone else can pitc in16:30
draik_OK. Thanks16:30
ActionParsnip1DiskACE: i cant personally think of anything else, as long as your sources.list matches your release then you should be ok, I'd log a bug16:30
DiskACEcool16:31
DiskACEwell i have intrepid sources.list16:31
DiskACEnot sure if it change with 4.2 ?16:31
ActionParsnip1DiskACE: as long as you have in trepid repos and are running intrepid you are ok16:31
ActionParsnip1DiskACE: could try a reboot, stranger things have happened at sea16:32
khalidmianActionParsnip1: would be good to atleast have the ability to minimize to tray16:32
ActionParsnip1khalidmian: use alltray, I dont think alltray will accept konsoles16:32
khalidmianActionParsnip1: have tried alltray16:32
DiskACEActionParsnip: nop... even a reboot and all other grub image does the same16:33
DiskACEweird stuff here16:33
DiskACEho i hate when it does that... :(16:34
DiskACEActionParsnip: allright, well thanks for the help... i will try to fixit on my end16:35
ActionParsnip1DiskACE: try later, different users an all16:35
norenActionParsnip1: i just installed Kaffine and the sound and vids there is fine16:39
khalidmiannoren: i think he left16:39
norenoh ok16:40
draik_What is a good app for recording video on the monitor?16:42
slHi everybody, I have a question regarding the folder view plasmoid in KDE4.16:42
slIf I delete a file on in the folder (either in the plasmoid or let's say on the command line) the icon does not go away in the plasmoid.16:43
slThere is some short circle like animation but the icon of the file stays although the file really is gone.16:43
genii!info krecordmydesktop16:44
ubottukrecordmydesktop (source: krecordmydesktop): KDE frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-2 (intrepid), package size 69 kB, installed size 288 kB16:44
slHow can I get it to disappear the moment it is being deleted?16:44
i3ooi3ooIs there anyway to use ssh to interact with the active session?16:51
heiritxzeee16:51
slWhat do you mean by "active session"?16:51
i3ooi3oosession logged on16:52
slI am not sure I understand your question.16:53
i3ooi3ooat home pc is logged. My user is active and the session is alive I am at the office with ssh access16:53
slAh16:53
heiritxwhy i`m here?16:53
slLogged on at home on the command line or to a GUI (KDE, Gnome)?16:54
heiritxi only install irc16:54
i3ooi3ooKDE at home16:54
i3ooi3ooheiritx: why are anyof us here that is an exostential question16:55
slNo idea, never tried that.16:55
jarod_hello16:56
slYou can tunnel everything through SSH but I have no idea how to remote access the KDE session.16:56
i3ooi3ooI just wanted to get the attention of somebody at the house16:56
jarod_sos16:56
jarod_hello16:57
slYou could ssh into your computer and open and close the CD tray. ;-)16:57
slOr start to play some music.16:57
slAll that can be done on the command line.16:57
jarod_what do you mean?/16:57
i3ooi3ooSo i could in theory record a MP3 and then send it and play it...16:58
jarod_yes16:58
slfor example16:58
i3ooi3oothat would be funny16:58
jarod_yes16:58
i3ooi3ooI am bored at work and want to mess with the Roomies16:59
slI bet a big surprise for whoever is at home.16:59
MaGicKangaRooI often scare my mrs by getting my box to play chain saws, manic laugthing, or me just going "im watching you!"16:59
i3ooi3ooFuck.. sound is only hooked to the 42 inch tv right now16:59
MaGicKangaRoojust keeps her on her toes like16:59
i3ooi3ooI doubt it is one or on the correct av in16:59
scottpHello everyone. In KDE4 systemsettings, all the Adminstrator stuff seems to me moved out. Anybody know where it went?17:00
shadeslayerhi,why was konversation removed in Kubuntu jaunty??17:00
jalshi, under "gtk styles and fonts" in the appearance menu, i applied the scrollbar fix fore firefox cos i'd been having a few display issues, and now firefox keeps crashing every now and then17:00
jalshow do i remove this fix?17:00
ubuntu__.17:01
draik__Here is the error message from trying to start X17:03
draik__http://pastebin.com/m3d5de56917:03
draik__This seems to be the cause of my freezing.17:03
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jillsmitthi17:05
jillsmitti cant use my flash in kubuntu 8.04? why?17:06
jillsmitt2.6.2417:06
jillsmitttranscend 1Gib17:06
jillsmittit ok on other systems and on [offtopsys]17:06
tuxijillsmitt, was it properly dismounted from the last system?17:08
shadeslayer!imagebin17:09
ubottuWant to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel.17:09
jillsmitttuxi: its good... it works on 2.6.26 or higher cores, but i cant upgrade it17:09
jillsmitttuxi: dmasg sad that its in usb 1-7 activity17:10
tuxido you have something like "[1732314.469315] sd 22:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0"17:10
jillsmitttuxi: [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 417:11
jillsmittsystem has no any reaction when i put it in port17:11
jillsmittbut dmesg sad that [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 417:11
tuxino messages about recognizing it as a disk, then?17:11
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jillsmitttuxi: no, like no device is connected17:12
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jillsmittbut on ubuntu 810 is good for it... oh but i need kde 3.5.9 and 2.6.2417:13
tuxiI'm not sure what to do next, sorry17:13
jarod_do what17:14
tuxijarod_ can you help jillsmitt?17:14
jarod_yes17:14
jillsmittjarod_: hi17:14
jarod_whats the problem17:15
jillsmitti connecting my USD-disk in port, system has no any reaction but only dmesg sad that [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 417:15
jillsmittin 2.6.2417:15
jarod_Some with me17:15
jillsmittUSBdisk:transcend 1Gib17:15
jarod_Its probley broken17:16
jillsmittno17:16
jillsmittit works on other systems17:16
jarod_Have you got dolphin17:16
jillsmittlike 2.6.26+ core17:16
jillsmittno17:16
jillsmitti delete it17:16
jarod_well i now how to do it my dolphin17:16
jarod_well you need to use something to browse17:17
jillsmitti am not newbee user17:17
jarod_well i am17:17
jillsmittbut i have a problem17:17
tuxijillsmitt, this happens after a reboot?17:17
* tuxi is thinking potential hal problem17:18
jillsmittno automount no reactions... i dont need 2.6.26 and i need kde3.459..17:18
jillsmitttuxi: this happens always from install17:18
tuxionly this device?17:18
jarod_well go on to the internet download it17:18
jillsmittyea, and 2 other of 7th i have17:18
tuxiwhat a pita17:19
DaSkreechsocceroos_: ping17:19
jillsmitttuxi: what?17:19
tuxipain in the a--17:19
slow-motionhi17:19
jarod_Do any body own a wegbsite17:19
jarod_i meant website17:19
jillsmitttuxi:  hmm i dont understand u17:19
jarod_Do any body own a website17:20
* jillsmitt knows eng very bad)17:20
draik__DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m3d5de56917:20
jarod_yes17:20
draik__DaSkreech: Would that cause the freeze too?17:20
DaSkreechjarod_: I would suppose. Ask your question17:20
jarod_go on17:20
tuxijillsmitt, I'm not sure how to help you and your problem is perplexing -- I can't replicate since I don't have the hardware or software :-(17:20
DaSkreechdraik__: yes17:21
jarod_how do you use the computer??????17:21
tuxijillsmitt, what is your first language?17:21
draik__DaSkreech: What do you suggest?17:21
jillsmitttuxi: take this: on 2.6.24 bad, 2.6.26 - good works - any core problems?17:21
=== jarod_ is now known as computer
DaSkreechdraik__: kill X then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg17:21
jillsmittcomputer: ru and kz17:22
tuximaybe a kernel module issue with 2.6.2417:22
draik__Ummmm... I think my 1TB SATA HDD just failed.17:22
computeris everything fine17:22
cumulus007hey17:22
computerthats bad17:22
DaSkreechdraik__: based on what?17:23
cumulus007I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop on uubntu jaunty, but the installation fails on kdelibs-data17:23
computerbased what?17:23
draik__[155.958992] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 13774035117:23
cumulus007it says there is no space left on device, but there's 33 GB free!17:24
draik__It's a long list of those entries DaSkreech17:24
DaSkreech>_<17:24
computergo on to www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download17:24
DaSkreechdraik__: possibly. maybe just file system level errors17:24
DaSkreechdraik__: backup now in either case17:24
DaSkreechNo need to back up the entire system just settings and personal data17:25
draik__Can't backup17:25
computerdo backups every year17:25
computerHow about restarting your computer17:25
computerhello17:26
draik__Restarting now17:26
draik__so far so good....17:27
computerWhat just happen17:27
* DaSkreech still recommends backup17:27
computerdo it then17:28
draik__I can't do a backup. I have nowhere to backup (yet).17:28
draik__computer just froze prior to login17:28
computerMake room on your computer17:28
draik__Rebooting again17:28
DaSkreechdo a du -sh on /etc and /home17:28
computerno17:28
DaSkreechThose are what you need to backup17:28
computeroh wait yeh17:28
computerthats right17:29
ober_hi17:30
computerDo anybody what to view my site17:30
norenhi17:30
computerhi17:31
norenwat site17:31
shadeslayer!hi | noren17:31
ubottunoren: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!17:31
DaSkreech!hi | ober_17:31
ubottuober_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!17:31
ober_gracias17:31
draik__HDD failed at   hald17:31
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johnnie__salve...17:32
norenDaSkreech: wat up ?? i finally got hang of playing with kde4.217:32
DaSkreechnoren: :-D17:32
computergo17:32
computer:-D17:32
norenbut i cant get the pulse audio to get working17:33
computeri goes in green17:33
norensome on the othre channel just aaasked me to install kaffine and now its working only there17:33
computerAnybody what a file?17:34
DaSkreechnoren: Still? nothing works?17:35
DaSkreechKaffiene doesn't use pulseaudio17:35
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norenoh ok, yes still the audio is   not comming inn vlc player or the dragon player17:37
noreni am using the kaffine for the way around17:37
computernoren17:39
norenyes computer17:40
computeri think you what noren17:41
shadeslayer??17:41
DaSkreech!sound17:41
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:41
computerim not17:42
shadeslayernoren: maybe the volume is too low17:42
Tm_Tcomputer: ok, can you please stop talking nonsense?17:42
computerok17:42
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jarodcohi17:44
jarodcojarodco17:45
jarodco#jarodco17:45
Tm_Tjarodco: what you're trying to do?17:45
jarodconothing17:45
Tm_Tdoesn't seem like that, son (:17:46
jarodcoerr17:46
jillsmittjarodco: привет)17:46
jarodcoerr what17:47
spot_хех17:47
tuxiprivate, jarodco17:47
jarodcook17:47
jillsmittтут кароче типа русский канал?17:47
spot_да хз17:47
jarodcoerr english17:47
spot_помоиму общий17:47
Tm_Tjillsmitt: please use english here, same to you spot_17:47
jillsmittTm_T: )) what for? all users already russain))) heh17:48
spot_I don't spek English17:48
Tm_Tspot_: jillsmitt then go to russian channel, this is english channel17:48
jussi01!ru17:48
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:48
spot_!ru17:49
jillsmittTm_T: just kidding17:49
jussi01spot_: type: /joun #ubuntu-ru17:49
jussi01spot_: type: /join #ubuntu-ru17:49
Tm_Tjillsmitt: I'm not (:17:49
BluesKaj!ru | jillsmitt17:49
ubottujillsmitt: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:49
BluesKajoops :)17:49
jillsmittTm_T: relax i am not a terrorist17:49
jarodcohi17:50
spot_jussi01 thanks17:50
tzangergood afternoon17:50
jarodcoÿÔúûñ17:51
Tm_Ttzanger: good evening17:51
jussi01spot_: yw17:51
BluesKajjillsmitt, we don't tell ppl to "relax"..do you have a question ?17:51
tzangerI have a usb key with the intrepid amd64 iso, syslinux'd and all... it's *definitely* the amd64 kernel running (uname -a) ... the installer tries to mount the iso, succeeds, but fails copying files over for install... can anyone help me iwth why?17:51
tzangerthere is no error shown, and if I flip over to a console, uname -a shows I'm running a 64-bit kernel, and also shows that /cdrom is mounted17:52
jarodcoTry cut it17:52
Tm_Tjarodco: please stop with nonsense17:52
jarodcook17:52
jillsmittBluesKaj: usb-disk 1Gib... not works on kubuntu804 on 2.6.24 but works on 2.6.26... i need to fix it in 2.6.2417:52
jarodcoi will leave17:53
jillsmittBluesKaj: only dmesg shows http://konqueror.kde.org/download17:53
jillsmittBluesKaj: ohh17:53
jillsmittBluesKaj: whait a sec [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 417:53
jillsmitthere dmesg17:53
jarodcocool17:53
jarodcosee ya17:54
tzangerany ideas?17:55
xpymandoes anyone know how to install wine 1.15 on feisty ? (the latest wine in the feisty repository is 1.0.0)17:55
DaSkreechxpyman: Connect to the wine repo17:55
DaSkreechmay break stuff but probably not17:56
BluesKajjillsmitt, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-810-install-via-usb-creator/17:56
xpymanDaSkreech: to the wine 8.04 repository ?17:57
DaSkreechwinehq has an ubuntu repo that always has the latest files you can use that17:58
DaSkreechgo to #winehq to ask them about it17:58
jillsmittDaSkreech: this is not the same.. i cant use USB disk... any r\w operations... no mount.. invisible in /dev17:59
xpymanDaScreech: yes, yes. But their latest release for feisty is wine 1.0.0. I tried downloading the package for hardy, but it doesn't install because of my dpkg version, i think17:59
DaSkreechjillsmitt: invisible in /dev is probably the root of all evi... I mean problems17:59
DaSkreechxpyman: I highly doubt your dpkg version can't install a deb18:00
DaSkreechUnless Wine went nuts18:00
jillsmittDaSkreech: iam root18:00
xpymanDaSkreech: wine pre-depends on dpkg (>= 1.14.12ubuntu3)  dpkg is installed, but is version 1.14.5ubuntu16.18:00
jillsmittDaSkreech: no devise in system - that is problem18:00
xpymanDaskreech: that's the error I get, when trying to install the hardy package. Unfortunately, i don't have any idea of how to fix it18:01
DaSkreechxpyman: Ha ha that's the weirdest thing I've seen. That's most liekly a packaging bug18:01
DaSkreechxpyman: You can --force18:01
jillsmittDaSkreech: 2.6.24 cant use this flash... if 2.6.26 can - how take this skill to 2.6.24?18:01
Honzohow can i install kde from svn?18:02
DaSkreechbut ask in #winehq if that's intentional Ican't imagine what a bugfix release has thats so important they have to rely on it18:02
DaSkreechjillsmitt: you are saying that a new kernel can read the USB bus?18:02
jillsmittDaSkreech: yes, newer kernel can, but i need it on 2.6.24 and kde 2.5.918:03
DaSkreech>_<18:03
DaSkreechwhat?18:03
jillsmitt3.5.9*18:03
DaSkreechWas there even a KDE 2.5.9 ?18:03
jillsmittup18:03
DaSkreechso you need either 2.6.24 and KDE 3 or 2.6.26 and KDE 4 ?18:04
jillsmittKDE 3 = 3.5.918:04
Honzowhay i can't run cmakekde?18:04
Tm_Thagabaka: what you are trying to do?18:05
DaSkreechwhat version of the kernel do you have now?18:05
jillsmittDaSkreech: 2.6.2418:05
* DaSkreech feels pressured to point out that if the kernel isn't seeing the device no amount of DE swapping wil get it to work18:05
jillsmittDaSkreech:18:06
jillsmittLinux jillsmitt-desk 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux18:06
DaSkreechjillsmitt: Where are you getting this information from ?18:06
jillsmittuname -a18:06
jillsmitti type in konsole it18:06
SJr|WorkShouldn't Kubuntu 8.04 be supported longer than Kubuntu 8.10?18:07
DaSkreechjillsmitt: No I mean the KDE 3.5.9  will work with the device18:07
DaSkreechHonestly if it doesn't turn up in /dev it's not turning up anywhere18:08
Tm_TSJr|Work: no, Kubuntu 8.04 has normal support period, Ubuntu 8.04 is LTS but Kubuntu isn't18:08
DaSkreechSJr|Work: no18:08
SJr|WorkI thought the only difference between them was the kubuntu-desktop package?18:08
jillsmittDaSkreech: okay what can i do then... any constructive ideas?18:08
DaSkreechCanonical said that they would not make Kubuntu 8.04 a LTS release18:08
SJr|Workthat's lame18:08
xpymanDaSkreech: ok, I'll ask them at winehq, thanks for the help ! forcing it didn't work at all :/18:08
Tm_TSJr|Work: that's the difference yes, and KDE parts aren't LTS18:09
DaSkreechIndeed please take it up with canonical18:09
Tm_TSJr|Work: but everything shared with Ubuntu is LTS18:09
SJr|WorkAh18:09
SJr|WorkHmmmm DaSkreech it turns out that the graphics corruption I Was experiancing was a result of using WINE18:09
SJr|Workwell specifically cross over office18:09
Laeborgany programs like SAM Broadcast for linux?18:10
venikmy 64 bit kubuntu is badly damaged-- The windows lost their title bar, the keyboard functions only in some applications, etc.18:10
venikI have re-installed kde, but that did not help18:10
venikwhat do I do?18:10
venikversion 8.1018:11
venikI tried to fix it through the recovery console, but failed18:11
jillsmittDaSkreech: what Kubuntu 810s support-off date?18:11
venikI renamed .kde to .kde-old, but that did not help either18:12
venikthis happened while I tried to remove strigi, and adept asked me to turn off the x server18:12
venikI had to reboot, and then found myself it his mess18:13
DaSkreech!ibex18:13
ubottuUbuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is the current release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ - Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/81018:13
Tm_Tvenik: have you reinstalled kubuntu-desktop package?18:13
DaSkreechSJr|Work: ok18:13
DaSkreechvenik: run kwin &18:13
Laeborgany programs like SAM Broadcast for linux?18:14
DaSkreechWhat's SAM broadcast?18:14
DaSkreech A way to set of lots of SAM sites at once ?18:14
DaSkreechoff18:14
venikhow do I reinstall kubuntu-desktop?  I shall have to do it from the konsole18:14
Tm_Tvenik: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop18:15
Tm_T"18:15
scottpsam --broadcast -target=moscow18:15
venikthanks-- I shall try that18:15
Tm_Tscottp: no moscow thank you18:15
scottplol18:15
jillsmittDaSkreech: 804?18:17
DaSkreechjillsmitt: 6 months before that18:18
DaSkreechTm_T: too close to home?18:18
jillsmittDaSkreech: 810 to x.10.2010? right?18:18
Tm_TDaSkreech: way too close in case of war, they came over once, they will do it twice18:19
DaSkreechLonger than that it's 18 months of support18:19
tzangerhmm18:19
DaSkreechMaybe they will just pass through18:19
tzangerthis intrepid desktop amd64 iso isn't liked by either the debian lenny amd64 installer nor ubuntu's amd64 installer18:19
tzangerthe iso is fine (not corrupted) though18:19
DaSkreechOh good grief18:19
DaSkreechThe Karmic?18:20
jussi01!9.1018:20
ubottuKarmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 2009 - For more info see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html18:20
* DaSkreech is glad he's started calling relelases by the animal18:20
SJr|Worklame!18:20
jussi01and now back to support :D18:20
DaSkreechjussi01: Ha beat you to it :)18:21
jillsmittDaSkreech: can i upgrade my kernel (kub804) to 2.6.26 by adept(apt,aptitude,..)?18:21
DaSkreechjillsmitt: in general yes. It's not easy though18:22
jillsmittDaSkreech: why?18:23
tzangerare there any known problems using the amd64 intrepid desktop iso on a usb key with the amd64 hd-media vmlinuz/initrd18:23
DaSkreechCause they are not provided for 8.04 you would have to get the deb for ibex and install it manually I think18:23
jillsmittDaSkreech: is u will find it - there is no kernek pack on 810Cd18:25
venikI tried that, but got "segmentation error"18:27
DaSkreechjillsmitt: go to packages.ubuntu.com18:27
venikI am where I was b418:27
Laeborgany dj programs to linux, where i can stream live to a shoutcast server?18:28
venikthe windows even lost the bottom right grab-me thingie18:28
venikso I cannot move them or resize them18:29
jillsmittDaSkreech: i need to download kernel pack and install it manually.. right?18:29
DaSkreechYes18:29
DaSkreechThat or compile it yourself18:29
venikI suspect the video driver... can someone remind me how to install the infamous nVidia driver?18:29
venikversion 1.8018:30
jillsmittDaSkreech: how stable it will?18:30
fosco__venik, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-18018:30
DaSkreechpretty stable18:30
venikis this gtx-180?18:30
Tm_Tglx18:30
venikok18:31
DaSkreechLinux is built in stacks so you can rip out the kernel and drop in a new one and most stuff won't break18:31
venikwhat does "segmentation error" indicate?18:33
fosco__venik, undefined software crash18:33
fosco__bum!18:34
venikok-- reinstalling the driver did not help18:35
venikI am in deep dudu here18:35
sagarpi'm on ubuntu with an nvidia geforce 8600 gt video card, and using kde 4.2 from the intrepid PPA...kde crashes for me at various times, such as when i click a menu bar item...how should i report or search for this bug?18:35
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Laeborguhm now my kde menu doesnt working18:40
Laeborgwhen i go to the Applications tab, its just blank18:40
DaSkreechLaeborg: what did you do?18:41
LaeborgDaSkreech: just moved some programs from Lost & Found to Graphics18:43
jillsmittDaSkreech: in sudo lsusb -v --> Port 7: 0000.0501 highspeed power connect18:44
jillsmittits here i think18:44
jillsmittdo not nessesary kernel update18:44
DaSkreechdoes it turn up in lspci ?18:44
RaW[b33f]Now that /etc/X11/xorg.conf has nothing in it, how can I find out what my mouse mapping is?18:45
DaSkreechHaving nothing in the xorg.conf is bad18:45
RaW[b33f]moreover - if I put a section in there to remap my mouse will it take?18:46
jillsmittDaSkreech: we was talk about ubuntu release or kubuntu... how mach time i have on kubuntu804?18:46
DaSkreech18 months18:46
jillsmittDaSkreech: i dont know about lspci18:47
DaSkreechpl18:47
DaSkreechok18:47
Tm_Tjillsmitt: 10 months spent, so 8 months left18:47
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Laeborgjust restartet x, and its working now18:47
RaW[b33f]I honestly am astounded that all of the config has been moved out of /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:48
Tm_TRaW[b33f]: by default, they are "sensed"18:49
Tm_TRaW[b33f]: but you can set and keep settings there if you like18:49
RaW[b33f]+Tm_T: They will keep if I create a whole new section?18:50
Tm_Tsure18:50
RaW[b33f]hmm....leads me back to the question then - how do I find out what my mouse mapping is then?18:51
Tm_TRaW[b33f]: /var/log/Xorg.0.log holds the information18:51
RaW[b33f]I would hate to go at this many buttons in a trial and error sort of way when all I want to do is swap two buttons18:51
idlerevolutionAnyone here currently at SCALE 7x?18:52
RaW[b33f]Tm_T you are a lifesaver - no check that - a Sanity Saver :)18:54
cumulus007message to all kubuntu developers:18:54
SJr|WorkI'm listening18:54
cumulus007you have made a great job on kubuntu 9.0418:54
cumulus007it's absolutely more polished than previous versions18:55
SJr|WorkThank you, but I'm not really a kubuntu developer, I just play one on tv.18:55
cumulus007KPackageKit is awesome18:55
cumulus007lol :P18:55
Tm_Tcumulus007: thanks (:18:55
cumulus007the quickaccess-plasmoid is back18:55
cumulus007In the future, KDE is going to use PolicyKit18:57
cumulus007it's already working, I downloaded the sources and compiled it18:57
cumulus007are there plans to give all KDE tools of Ubuntu PolicyKit support, like in their GNOME equivalents?18:57
DaSkreechcumulus007: That's always the plan18:57
cumulus007great18:58
cumulus007PolicyKit is something that is really missing in KDE18:58
cumulus007hmm18:58
DaSkreechIt's getting there there are a few projects working on integrating it18:58
cumulus007I can't get KPackageKit to update18:58
cumulus007it says: Authentication failed18:59
cumulus007DarkriftX: okay18:59
cumulus007I know about KPolicyKit18:59
cumulus007erhm, wrong person :P18:59
cumulus007I mean DaSkreech18:59
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skfunnyboyhey what is the time to receive ubuntu cd via shipit ? i wait from december 20019:00
skfunnyboy200819:00
cumulus007skfunnyboy: that's very long19:01
cumulus007in most cases, you have to wait 4 weeks until it arrives19:01
DaSkreechskfunnyboy: A while They have a LOT of requests19:01
skfunnyboy2 cd only19:01
cumulus007check the status of your order, at shipit.launchpad.net19:02
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skfunnyboyit say cannot find server !!19:04
skfunnyboythe website dont work19:04
cumulus007https://shipit.ubuntu.com/19:04
cumulus007it's url has been changed since the last time I used it19:04
skfunnyboyok19:05
Unknown33881does kubuntu 8.10 come with kde4?19:07
fosco__Unknown33881, yes19:07
skfunnyboyits writted for the delivrer please allow 4 -6 weeks19:07
Unknown33881is it stable enough to use?19:08
Unknown33881when it came out i tried it, it was horrible19:08
fosco__Unknown33881, it depends on your needings19:08
Unknown33881im not even sure why the devs released when they did19:08
cumulus0074.0 is nothing but epic pain19:08
Unknown33881^19:08
fosco__new kde4.2 is much more stable and complete19:08
cumulus0074.1 is more usable19:08
cumulus0074.2 just rocks19:08
Xenos4.2 would've rocked if it was actually out of beta19:08
cumulus007it is19:09
XenosNo, they just say it is19:09
DaSkreechXenos: It's a .0 release19:09
DaSkreech.1 and .2 will sort out issues19:09
XenosAlthough admittedly I tested it running under OpenSUSE. Buggy as hell19:09
fosco__4.2 is not beta19:09
pucko-oh the lost irony19:10
cumulus007I got problems here with kpackagekit19:10
cumulus007I can't update, I can't search in the repos19:10
DaSkreechcumulus007: #ubuntu+119:10
Unknown33881hey whens jaunty coming out?19:12
fosco__april19:12
Unknown33881ah19:12
Unknown33881sneaky snake = 8.13?19:13
cumulus007err19:13
cumulus007no19:13
cumulus007there is no 8.1319:13
Unknown33881why not?19:13
cumulus007and there will never be one19:13
Unknown33881oh?19:13
cumulus007how did you get that nonsense?19:13
Unknown33881so it stops at jaunty or?19:13
cumulus007of course not19:14
Unknown33881so there will be a 8.13?19:14
cumulus007Ubuntu's version numbering system is quite different from others19:14
Unknown33881oh, so it skips 8.13?19:14
fosco__Unknown33881, are you joking, dont wanna waste my time19:14
cumulus007It's based on the release date19:14
Unknown33881oh19:14
cumulus007for example, 8.04 means: year 2008, mont April19:14
Unknown33881i see19:15
cumulus0079.04 will mean: year 2009, month April19:15
cumulus007There are 2 Ubuntu releases in a year19:15
cumulus007in April, and in October19:15
cumulus007except from 6.0619:15
DaSkreechthe .number is the month19:15
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DaSkreechWhich will never happen again19:15
Unknown33881so where do they get the names from then?19:15
Unknown33881the numbers make sense19:16
Unknown33881but the names?19:16
fosco__Ubuntu 9.10 Is The Karmic Koala19:16
Unknown33881lol19:16
cumulus007they are all nonsense names XD19:16
fosco__names are community selected19:16
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Unknown33881says a bit about the community :P19:16
cumulus007yes, I admit, I'm just stupid19:16
DaSkreechnames are not community selected19:16
Unknown33881who selects them?19:16
cumulus007you can suggest a name19:16
cumulus007Canonical19:17
cumulus007the comapny behind Ubuntu19:17
DaSkreechThe Dictator19:17
cumulus007*company19:17
cumulus007sssh, DarkriftX19:17
cumulus007aargh19:17
cumulus007again19:17
cumulus007DaSkreech:19:17
DaSkreechActaully they don't even select it19:17
Unknown33881The Dictator, that would be a good release name tbh19:17
cumulus007Dumb Dictator, good one for 10.04 ^^19:17
Unknown33881Ubuntu 10.04 "The Dictator"19:17
Unknown33881sounds badass19:17
fosco__!ot19:18
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!19:18
cumulus007I know, shame shame etc.19:18
DaSkreechcumulus007: Not happeneing the names are alphabetical19:18
DaSkreechUnknown33881: Any actual support questions ?19:18
cumulus007hmmm19:18
skfunnyboyanybody kno where i can get old release from ubuntu ?19:19
cumulus007yes19:19
i3ooi3oowhat version ?19:19
cumulus007http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/19:19
skfunnyboythe first19:19
i3ooi3oowhy ?19:20
skfunnyboyto see how it made19:20
cumulus007because it's very nostalgic19:20
ubuntu__cool.19:21
DarkriftXack, attack of the tabbers19:21
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DaSkreechskfunnyboy: It's made pretty much the same way now19:21
skfunnyboyok19:21
DaSkreechPull a bunch of files from debian stick in canonical looks tweak some stuff to work with canonical tools ship19:22
fosco__first is Ubuntu 4.10 Warty Warthog19:22
fosco__(i think)19:22
skfunnyboyyea19:22
DaSkreechYep19:22
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heartsso uh19:23
heartsyou guys like using ubuntu19:23
skfunnyboywhat cool with ubunt its never lag with old pc ( 400 MHz)19:24
heartsdamn19:24
heartsif you're running a 400mhz you outta style boss.19:24
DaSkreechhearts: Yes kubuntu is pretty nice.19:24
hearts=P19:24
DaSkreechhearts: Not if you have enough RAm19:24
heartslol19:24
heartshow much ram19:24
hearts32 mb19:24
skfunnyboy19219:25
hearts192 gigs?19:25
DaSkreechI was going to go with 280 but you can do 192 as well19:25
skfunnyboy192 mb !!19:25
heartsdude thats low.19:25
heartslol19:25
heartsim using 4 gigs right now, and im still pissed19:25
skfunnyboylol19:26
heartsim trying to see how much it'll cost to get 16 gigs19:26
skfunnyboylol19:26
DaSkreechWhat are you doing?19:26
heartsme?19:26
heartsnothing i just hate the slightest of lags.19:26
FFForeverhow do i destroy ubuntu and just leave kubuntu ;-)19:27
JontheEchidna!purekde19:27
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »19:27
DaSkreechHa ha In that case RAM is probably not your major concern19:27
DaSkreech!purekde19:27
heartshow so?19:27
DaSkreechdamn19:27
JontheEchidnaDaSkreech: lol19:27
heartsim on core i7 dude.19:27
FFForeverhow do i fix my mute button?19:27
DaSkreechhearts: your FSB speeds would need tweaking19:27
heartsi dont think my processors the issue19:27
skfunnyboyam on ibm p2 400 mhz19:27
heartslol.19:28
skfunnyboyintel19:28
FFForever(on my media keys the mute/play-pause/next/back do not work) =(19:28
skfunnyboyi dont love amd19:28
heartsi dont overclock19:28
DaSkreechProcessors are generally faster than anything you throw at it LOTS of RAM only gives you storage space19:28
hearts:L19:28
DaSkreechYou need to get the Lots of data to the Processor19:28
heartsi dont know man19:28
DaSkreechThat's where the slow down will occur19:28
DaSkreechBut that's a discussion for ##hardware or #phoronix19:29
FFForeverthis does not seem right =\, Removing libartsc0 ... Removing ubuntu-desktop ...19:29
heartsim telling you right now the only slight issue i have with my pc is running ubuntu on virtualbox over vista19:29
FFForeverthats all it removed =\19:29
heartsjust doing that uses 3gigs.19:29
hearts:/19:29
skfunnyboywhat is the difference between ubuntu , kubuntu and edubuntu19:29
FFForevergnome =P19:29
fosco__skfunnyboy, you can use google for those generic questions19:30
JontheEchidnaedubuntu is Ubuntu along with various educational software19:30
FFForeveranyways... purekde didn't work lol19:30
heartsi just installed kde on ubuntu19:30
heartsno biggie :/19:30
DaSkreechhearts: Oh then duh :-P19:30
DaSkreechskfunnyboy: The focus of the desktop19:31
FFForevercan i get a ubuntu-desktop dep list for 9.04? (on the ones i can remove)19:31
DaSkreech!ubuntu > skfunnyboy19:31
ubottuskfunnyboy, please see my private message19:31
DaSkreech!kubuntu > skfunnyboy19:31
DaSkreech!edubuntu > skfunnyboy19:31
FFForever=P19:31
heartsduh on what?19:31
hearts:/19:31
DaSkreechFFForever: not till it comes out19:31
FFForeverDaSkreech, what about 8.10 they should be nearly the same =)19:32
DaSkreechhearts: if you are running a OS on a VM on a resource hungry OS then you are going to get lag19:32
DaSkreechFFForever: Nearly19:32
heartslol19:32
heartsvista isnt resource hungry.19:32
heartsi mean, it didnt work on my p419:32
FFForevervista is vista....19:32
heartsbut thats not the point... lol19:32
FFForeverkinda why i made to move 2 linux vista sent me here =D19:32
FFForeverhow do i change my default browser to firefox?19:33
heartseh19:33
heartsvista will be a good os in like a year or so19:33
heartssorry, a great* os.19:33
heartsit needs a service pack or two more.19:33
heartsi like it, even though the new start menu is lame19:34
FFForeveryeah no one will be able 2 forget it like george w. bush19:34
heartsi couldnt stand running ubuntu as my only os19:34
DaSkreech!default19:34
ubottuTo change the default application for a filetype, go to Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations" (KDE 3), or System Settings -> Advanced -> File Associations (KDE 4). To change your default file manager, change the "inode/directory" and "inode/system_directory" filetypes.19:34
heartsits really not that great.19:35
DaSkreechhearts: Doesn't have to be :)19:36
DaSkreechIf you don't like that's fine19:36
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RaW[b33f]hmm.... How would I post an idea to ubuntu devs?19:43
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cumulus007RaW[b33f]: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com19:44
RaW[b33f]ty19:44
navetzis anyone else running into an issue with pidgin where you cant recieve files from people using the new msn client?19:45
cumulus007yes19:45
DaSkreechnavetz: MSN and Yahoo change stuff internally quite often most of the time just to break external clients19:52
DaSkreechLogin, Webcam, Message passing, File transfers etc19:52
DaSkreechThey get money from the advertising on the official clients19:52
XenosI think when we get facebook support on Pidgin that's going to go a long way to converting a lot of MSN users19:53
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XenosBecause for the first time a lot of them will suddenly be in the position of wanting/needing two chat clients19:53
Duesentriebto repost a question i posted a few hours ago: since an update a few days ago, kmenu now longer offers the option to suspend or hibernate. how do i fix this? power management seems to work fine when invoked explicitly.19:55
Duesentrieb http://forum.kde.org/how-does-hibernate-suspend-options-work-kde4-t-18837.html seems related19:55
Duesentriebis it possible that said kubuntu patch got borke?19:55
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ober_hola20:04
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h1nsmannnnh20:06
X9nLinux9for any PowerMac users here... During install (of Feisty on an old G4) is the white screen on startup an indicator of a bad startup CD?20:09
Kbevillehi ppl need to know how to make my ktorrent the default20:13
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bobekWhat is irc adres for Polish Ubuntu?20:14
bobekusers20:14
yao_ziyuani ruined the slim glow plasma theme20:14
yao_ziyuanwhich package should i reinstall to repair it?20:14
Kbevillehi ppl need to know how to make my ktorrent the default torrent20:14
venikdo I really have to reinstall kubuntu to revive it?20:14
Kbevilleclient20:14
venikI have reinstalled the desktop, kde, xserver20:15
geniibobek: #ubuntu-pl20:15
Kbevillehi ppl need to know how to make my ktorrent the default client................................................................................20:15
venikis tehre any diagnostic that I could run to at least tell me what is wrong?  The keyboard works only in some applications, the windows lost their title bar and resizing corner....20:16
bobekHow to make destktom size more than 800x600 ?20:17
bobekdesktop*20:17
cumulus007bobek: by installing your video card driver20:18
bobekhow I can do It?20:19
bobeksudo apt-get install ....?20:20
ExilantHi, how can i display sth. else on two monitors? (gui solution), krandrtray can set up some things like rotating one monitor, but how would i exec program a on screen a and program b on screen b or sth. lke that?20:20
BattleStarJesusHave any of you know the channel forUbuntu studio?20:23
PiciBattleStarJesus: Oddly enough, its #ubuntustudio20:24
sagarpi'm using 4.2....kde crashes at various times, such as when i click on a menu bar item...how should i go about searching for or reporting this bug? i'm not sure what logs to view, etc20:28
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DaSkreechsagarp: look at Xorg logs20:39
DaSkreechalso plasma run from a konsole can help20:39
DaSkreechvenik: you need a window manager20:39
DaSkreech!default | Kbeville20:40
ubottuKbeville: To change the default application for a filetype, go to Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations" (KDE 3), or System Settings -> Advanced -> File Associations (KDE 4). To change your default file manager, change the "inode/directory" and "inode/system_directory" filetypes.20:40
yaa_dynja20:40
DaSkreech!pl20:40
ubottuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl20:40
DaSkreech!hi | ober_20:40
ubottuober_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:40
yaa_pollack idi domoi20:40
sagarpi can't run plasma from a konsole because when kde crashes, the konsole is gone too20:40
DaSkreechXenos: Pidign supports facebook20:40
a_c_m1 I'm missing Katapult in KDE4, i hear there is something called Krunner, but cant seem to find an package for it (Kubuntu 8.10) anyone able to point me in the right direction?20:41
Exposurei ran dist-upgrade and it broke kdm :(20:41
Exposure(intrepid)20:41
DaSkreechyaa_: Which language?20:45
DaSkreecha_c_m1: Press alt+F220:46
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DaSkreechExposure: how?20:46
yaa_chukcha's20:46
Exilanta_c_m1: plasma-widget-runcommand might be it20:46
yaa_daskreech20:46
DaSkreechactaully there should be a krunner package20:46
a_c_mDaSkreech: yeah, someone else said that, nothing happens, running krunner from the command line pops it up though20:46
DaSkreechyaa_: chukcha ?20:46
yaa_yes20:46
DaSkreechok20:47
DaSkreechwhich country? :)20:47
* tuxi has krunner20:47
ExposureDaSkreech: didn't do anything unusual, except when it asked me to stop kdm I skipped that since i was running dist-upgrade from an X terminal20:47
yaa_aleut islands20:47
DaSkreecha_c_m: after it runs the first time it should be accessible by alt+F220:47
DaSkreechyaa_: Hmm i don't know we have a chan for that. Is English alright for you to speak ?20:47
yaa_which channel is for chukchas20:47
ajuntaHi! Tell please how  to know what video driver is in use now?20:47
yaa_not very well20:48
DaSkreechExposure: Ah cute. Well stop X then run it from a command line then start X again20:48
ExposureDaSkreech: that's the problem, when I run it from commandline it has unmet dependencie20:48
Exposures20:48
DaSkreechWhich are?20:48
Exposurekdebase-runtim, libkdecorations4, libkwineffects120:49
DaSkreechyaa_: Which languages are you comfortable with?20:49
DaSkreechchukcha and english?20:49
DaSkreechExposure: install those first20:50
yaa_chukcha and english but not well enough20:50
DaSkreechyaa_: Ok I will try to help you in english20:50
DaSkreechwhat is the problem ?20:50
ExposureDaSkreech: why aren't those sorted out by apt?20:51
yaa_iptables manual please20:51
DaSkreechExposure: can be any number of reasons but if apt has problems with dependency stuff then give it smaller chucnks to bite20:51
DaSkreech!iptables20:51
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).20:51
yaa_for beginners20:51
tuxia_c_m, do you have kdeplasma-addons installed?20:51
yaa_!iptables20:52
ExposureDaSkreech: ok i'll give it a go, if there's no other way :)20:52
DaSkreechyaa_: also in konsole type man iptables20:52
a_c_mtuxi: i think so, i just went to system settings and set up a new shortcut, meta+space (as i like it better anyway)20:52
DaSkreechExposure: It's not that hard :) just give it the ones that are dependcies then the higher ones20:52
tuxiyou found something to get you krunner-like capabilities?20:52
DaSkreechhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo <--- yaa_20:53
gringz!it20:53
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)20:53
ExposureDaSkreech: yeah seems to work fine.. I admit i'm not that experienced with apt, expected something was broken, not that it had problems finding dependencies ;)20:53
yaa_thank you//) if it is chukchas)..20:53
DaSkreechExposure: Not finding resolving. but close enough20:54
DaSkreechThe fact it cando an entire system upgrade is good enough for me to forgive it when it gets puzzled bout smaller things20:54
tuxipossible that skipping kdm config caused the issue?20:55
DaSkreechPossible20:55
DaSkreechVersion mismatch20:55
DaSkreechI don't know enough to say that it is20:55
Exposurenot a big problem, your're right20:56
Exposuredist-upgrade usually works excellent20:56
tuxiExposure I use the GUI to do the equivalent of dist-upgrade and it configures kdm (or gdm, I run both Gnome and KDE) just fine20:56
Exilantcan someone tell me how to find packets with adept?20:59
ubuntu_isn't there a textbox for the search?20:59
Exilantlike, a "linux-image"  search returning bothing?20:59
DaSkreechExilant: you may have to update the xapian cache The new adept has a bug where it sometimes doesn't do that21:00
DaSkreechClose adept and run from the konsole sudo update-apt-xapian-index21:00
ubuntu_you may also want to try synaptic21:01
Exilanti've tried it21:01
Exilantit seems so much better than adept21:02
ubuntu_and you don't like it?21:02
ubuntu_ah OK :-)21:02
ubuntu_I think the same21:02
kiekodoes linuxMCE work only in Kubuntu?21:02
Exilantright now i'm mostly using the command line, trying to avoid gtk apps21:02
kiekowhat is wrong with gtk apps?21:03
Exilantnothing, in general21:04
DaSkreechkieko: no ask for more help in #linuxmce They can be a bit harsh21:04
DaSkreechBut in specifics I.1.a.i Article 121:04
tuxikieko, are you talking about the appearance of gtk apps in KDE?21:04
kiekoDaSkreech, i'll tread carefully then and brace myself... thx for forwarning me21:05
wildbatany suggestion of good C/C++ IDE for kubuntu ?21:06
DaSkreechkieko: Not saying they are mean. They just don't have a Code of cinduct so if they have bad day you might know about it21:07
DaSkreech!ide21:07
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, pida, monodevelop21:07
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norenhi all21:09
DaSkreech!hi21:10
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:10
DaSkreechyaa_: How are you doing ?21:10
e-jathow to preview 3gp in kde4.2?21:10
e-jatpreview 3gp in dolphin ..21:11
DaSkreeche-jat: ask in #kde-devel ;-)21:11
norendroped in to say thanks to all the ppl who supported and aadviced me to get this kde4.2 running... will be testing his for the next couple of days21:11
e-jatDaSkreech: thanks21:11
DaSkreechnoren: :-) Hope it's not as good as KDE 4.321:12
Exilante-jat: do you have sound with those 3gp-files?21:12
e-jatExilant: yeah ..21:13
e-jati can play it .. but i want to preview it in dolphin .. because in nautilus .. 3gp files can be viewed :(21:13
norenkdde 4.3 wwwwwenn did that came21:13
wildbatany suggestion of a good C/C++ IDE for kubuntu ?21:13
DaSkreechnoren: in 4 months21:14
DaSkreech!ide21:14
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, netbeans, pida, monodevelop21:14
DaSkreechwildbat: ^^^ in case you missed it21:14
Exilantwildbat: kate is really sweet if you just want the absolutely minimum that can be called "ide"21:15
norenplease reeell me how to list all the available channel on this server21:15
DaSkreechnoren: /list21:15
DaSkreechYou probably don't want to do that there are near 700021:15
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo21:18
norenDaSkreech: i cant install all the plassmoid widget some of them are making the kwin crash21:18
* DaSkreech performs some action towards hannascott21:18
DaSkreechnoren: Hmm?21:18
* hannascott pokes DaSkreech21:19
* DaSkreech hugs hannascott21:19
norenany llist available which arre working as of yet21:19
DaSkreechnoren: Where are you installing them from?21:19
wildbathmmm21:21
wildbatthanks21:21
DaSkreechwildbat: There is also Qtcreator or Kdevelop21:22
norenfrom the top righ thand corner of the desktop theres sme sayes add widget21:22
DaSkreechkate is nice if you don't really really need a full heavy IDE21:22
DaSkreechnoren: ok which ones are you adding that's crashing kwin21:22
wildbatjsut need a basic ide with a debugger commandline debugger are too much pain XD21:23
ActionParsnip1!info eclipse21:23
ubottueclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-5ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 126 kB, installed size 416 kB21:23
norennow playing, comic syrip21:24
norenstriip21:24
wildbatbtw, anyone got freeze problem when you start PCMAN X BBS?21:25
DaSkreechnow playing I've not had issues with (cause I've never even trid it)21:25
DaSkreechActionParsnip1: Do you have any even loose definition for basic IDE?21:26
DaSkreechcomic strip I use everyday What happens when you add it21:26
ActionParsnip1DaSkreech: none, its not something i use. I just hear bits flying around and remember when people ask next time :)21:27
ActionParsnip1DaSkreech: i'm on xfce / fluxbox. i dont use kwin21:27
ActionParsnip1its nasty21:27
DaSkreechEclipse is one of the heaviest IDE's that exist21:27
* DaSkreech lurves kwin21:28
DaSkreechProbably not as much as flux21:28
DaSkreechbut oodles more than metacity21:28
DaSkreechI'm still not sure why Gnome dropped sawfish for metacity21:28
ActionParsnip1will metacity run on kde, thatd be a hoot21:28
ActionParsnip1!info sawfish21:28
ubottusawfish (source: sawfish): a window manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3.3-1 (intrepid), package size 363 kB, installed size 1028 kB21:28
ActionParsnip1DaSkreech: use it ;)21:29
DaSkreechall of 363 kb?21:29
ActionParsnip1DaSkreech: thats the download, installed is 1Mb21:30
ActionParsnip1DaSkreech: it may  have deps21:30
DaSkreechIf you count sawfish-data21:32
DaSkreech!info sawfish-data21:32
ubottusawfish-data (source: sawfish): sawfish architecture independent data. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3.3-1 (intrepid), package size 1208 kB, installed size 5420 kB21:32
tuxiDaSkreech, does the comic plasmoid reload  (say the next day) for you?21:32
DaSkreechYes with the next day's comic21:32
tuxithe reload icon on the resize/tools/close box?21:33
tuxiautohide plasmoid controls, that is21:33
DaSkreechtuxi: Hmm?21:34
tuxiI switch to another comic each day21:34
DaSkreechas in Garfield one day and xkcd another?21:34
* ActionParsnip1 is trying sawfish21:35
tuxior UserFriendly is up for yesterday, switch to Dilbert to see today's strip and back to UserFriendly for today's strip21:35
tuxiI'd like to be able to just refresh the strip to the lastest, didn't know if that was working for someone else21:36
Dillizarhow can i make a altered version of kubuntu21:39
norenDaSkreech: i have nvidia GeForce 8600 gt << how to install appropriate driver and check if it has been installed correctly21:39
Dillizarand make it as a live cd?21:39
tuxinoren, DaSkreech has left21:41
X9nLinux9Any mac users here who installed on a G4 tower successfully?21:44
noren!nvidia21:44
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:44
tuxishould be one of the restricted drivers in use noren -- I'm looking for exactly where to find it21:45
tuxiSystem/Hardware Drivers on the traditional menu, noren21:46
athlon1_For patitioning disk I use gparted, from gnome. Does kubuntu have any program for disk partitioning?21:50
norenuts therrre but if a try there it freezez up and nothing hapen21:51
athlon1_Nobody can tell me any program for formatting and resizing disks like gnome, but for kde? Thanks21:55
tuxithere apparently is a kde partion manager21:58
Exilante-jat: did you install anything special for 3gp audio?21:58
jobrasilHi from brasil21:59
tuxihello jobrasil21:59
jobrasilI have a possibly small network config problem - anybody here who might be able to help?21:59
Exilanti havebn't been successful there, those weird license/patent issues make that hard, with neccessary config changign every couple of months21:59
athlon1_Which patition manager for kde? What's its name?21:59
e-jatExilant: try compile ffmpeg from svn21:59
Exilantah, ok22:00
tuxiathlon1_ try "sudo aptitude install partitionmanager"22:00
Exilantwas hoping jaunty was the first release without those self-compiled stuff22:00
e-jatExilant: hope so22:00
athlon1_OK, i'm going to try...22:00
tuxiI'm in the process as well22:01
e-jatExilant: same goes to kopete .. need to recompiled to fixed the YM disconnectivity22:01
jobrasilok: this is what I know - basically ping takes very long, route is slow, route - n is fast, firefox is fast, konqueror is slow, trying to use a time server through kde4 gives a "can't connect"22:02
jobrasilwhat other useful information can I provide?22:03
jobrasil(hi tuxi)22:04
Dillizari am new in kde so i want to remaster a Kubuntu22:04
tuxijobrasil, I'm not sure how to answer22:04
Dillizarwill i need to say that is kubuntu or i can put my name22:04
dcorbin_workI have a dual monitor setup with an NVIDIA card.  I just upgraded both monitors to LCDs.  If I use a direct DVI hookup, monitor #2 goes into power-save mode when I start X.  It doesn't with the VGA connection and a converter.  Any ideas on how to make this work correctly?22:06
jobrasilhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/120747/22:07
jobrasilthis is the route output22:07
Exilantdcorbin_work: well, maybe some xrandr magic22:08
Exilantpossibly in the autostart or so22:08
alienkidHi I wanted to try kubuntu so I went in to sypantic and installed it but wehn I log into it, it loads and then wehrn the harddrive icon appears the screen goes blank and I have to ctrl+bacspace what am I doing wrong?22:08
Dillizarwhat is the last squashfs kernel22:10
jobrasillooks like today there is no network geek available, willing to waste his time on me :(22:10
jobrasil^^22:10
tuxijobrasil are both the wireless and the wired connected?22:11
jobrasilno, only wireless22:11
tuxihmm22:11
tuxilet me look at my laptop22:11
tuxiI only have the wireless interface showing when I run route on the laptop22:12
jobrasilis it fast, or does it also take a while?22:12
tuxiseems to be just fine -- no real difference between the wireless on the laptop and the wired on this machine (through common router)22:13
jobrasilanybody: I'm a fast-answering, non-stupid and grateful noob in need of help :)22:13
jobrasiltuxi, maybe you can help me by comparison - what is the last line of your resolv.conf? internal address or also an external nameserver?22:15
tuxithe last entry is an external nameserver22:15
jobrasil(it is a kubuntu 8.10 installation, isn't it?)22:15
tuxiI use OpenDNS22:16
tuxiyes both are 8.1022:16
jobrasilah, I was already thinking it has something to do with the dns stuff...22:16
tuxithe presence of a second interface is one difference22:16
jobrasildoes anybody know how to check that the resolv conf really contains what dhcp transmits?22:17
jobrasilcorrect me if this is wrong: knetworkmanager asks dhcp, gets the information, runs some script that writes resolv.conf22:17
tuxinormally22:18
Exilantafaik it writes to /etc/resolv.d/run/resolv.conf or so22:18
Exilantto which /etc/resolv.conf symlinks22:18
tuximy /etc/resolv.conf is not a link22:19
Exilanthm, maybe only in jaunty22:19
jobrasilover here it's also not a link22:19
tuxifirst several lines say modified by network manager22:20
Exilantbut i've played around there a bit too much22:20
tuxijobrasil, you can configure network manager to only get the IP address and hard code in the DNS info22:20
jobrasilbut /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d contains the same22:20
jobrasilthat sounds interesting22:21
tuxiI have no /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d22:21
jobrasilstrange22:23
jobrasilit can't be too hard to trace the prob back to a certain point, especially with route not working... just don't know how :(22:24
cikitahi22:25
jobrasilbut thanks anyway22:25
cikitahow to change keyboar in linux??22:25
cikitafrom cz to english?22:25
tuxicikita, there is a kde app that makes that easy22:27
compilerwriter I know there has to be a command that will show me how much of my disk has been used and by what but for the life of me I am not remembering it or finding it in docs.22:29
tuxihow much as a roll-up look at df -- by directory look at du22:30
scottpcompilierwriter how about du -h or df -h22:30
compilerwriterwill give it a shot scottp22:31
compilerwriterit was df that I wanted scottp thanks again22:31
cikitarm -ft22:32
cikitarm -fr22:32
tuxicikita look at /usr/share/kde4/services/keyboard_layout.desktop22:32
cikitahm?22:32
scottpyw. recommend you do not listen to cikita!22:33
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LaeborgCan I do so FireFox use wget instead of the build-in download manager ?22:38
DaSkreechtuxi: That's a good point I guess if you don't turn off the computer22:42
giarcaLaeborg: check this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9323/22:43
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plutiaraууууууууууууу22:50
plutiaraвсем доброй ночи!22:50
genii!ru | plutiara22:52
ubottuplutiara: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke22:52
plutiarahi evrebady22:53
plutiarasory22:53
bonninHi!22:55
DaSkreechplutiara: no problem you can speak russian in #ubuntu-ru22:55
compilerwriterhi DaSkreech22:57
DaSkreechhi compilerwriter22:57
compilerwriterdid you need something earlier in kmymoney DaSkreech?22:58
DaSkreechcompilerwriter: No I was just seeing how you guys were. GSoC is coming up. Would you guys like to submit any projects?22:58
jobrasilhi - does anybody know a place that is more specifically dedicated to network problems?22:58
compilerwriterGSoC? DaSkreech I have no Earthly idea what that is.22:59
DaSkreech#networking ?22:59
DaSkreechcompilerwriter: Google Summer Of Code22:59
compilerwriteroh.22:59
DaSkreechIt's quite popular :)22:59
jobrasilDaSkreech, thx I'll try, hope they don't eat noobs23:00
DaSkreechjobrasil: That's highly unlikely to be your problem with that chan23:00
compilerwriterMy involvement in kmymoney is to get help once in a while.  I try to help once in a while when I can.23:00
compilerwriterI am trying to compile the latest tarball of kmymoney.  ./configure is complaining about needing the X libs.  Do you know the name of the package of hand DaSkreech?23:01
compilerwriter^of^off23:02
DaSkreech!info xserver-xorg-dev23:02
ubottuxserver-xorg-dev (source: xorg-server): Xorg X server - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.5.2-2ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 818 kB, installed size 2212 kB23:02
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compilerwriterThanks DaSkreech23:03
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picatchuanyone here who knows about problems with khotkeys?23:04
picatchui stopped working today after some upgrades in intrepid23:06
Luijamefisto23:07
Luijar u here?23:07
picatchukhotkeys problems anyone?23:11
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X9nLinux9Any mac users here who installed on a G4 tower successfully?23:13
Max__JPHello!23:15
DaSkreechpicatchu: What's the problem?23:15
DaSkreech!hi | Max__JP23:15
ubottuMax__JP: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!23:15
Max__JPIs my first time with Kubuntu Linux SO23:16
Max__JP:D23:16
hallownameMax__JP: welcome to freedom. learn and love it :D23:17
Max__JPhehehe Thanks!23:18
* Xenos is just happy to be free of Vista, himself23:18
Max__JPhahahaha23:18
compilerwriterDaSkreech it is saying that it can't find them even after I did the apt-get thing.  It says check your install and add the correct paths.  How in blazes would the xlibs not be in my path?23:19
wildbatfreedom? where? XD23:19
picatchudselect installed some updates today (inteprid), and since then khotkeys stopped working. systems settings says it can not connect to the shortcuts daemon (probably khotkeys, i guess). menually starting or deleting the config fies does not help. keyboard shortcuts (e.g. alt-tab) are no longer working. aynone's had similar problems?23:19
DaSkreechMax__JP: Welcome to Linux and Kubuntu!23:20
picatchusystem settings says: "23:20
Max__JP:D23:20
picatchuFailed to contact the KDE global shortcuts daemon23:20
picatchuMessage: No such object path '/KdedGlobalAccel'23:20
picatchuError: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject23:20
compilerwriteryes welcom Max__JP23:20
DaSkreechpicatchu: Look at your dpkg logs and see what changed23:20
X9nLinux9Anybody here using two monitors with Kubuntu?   I just want to know if / that it can be done before going  further.23:20
DaSkreechX9nLinux9: It can23:21
DaSkreech!dualhead23:21
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama23:21
DaSkreech!xinerama23:21
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead23:21
X9nLinux9DaSkreech: Thank you!23:21
jordan_I have a lexmark printer x7170 but I can find any drivers for it...is there another solution?23:22
jordan_can't find23:22
jordan_sorry23:22
picatchuX9nLinux: dual screen works great here with xrandr!23:22
DaSkreech!lexmark23:23
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows23:23
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ubuntu__help!!!23:23
X9nLinux9Thank you!23:24
ubuntu__anybody can help my get my kde back23:24
wildbatanyone installed wine?23:24
ubuntu__after uprgrading xine zesterday it told me i have to stop kde and restart. since then i only get to konsole23:24
ubuntu__am now on a ubuntu live cd23:25
Exilantubuntu__: does X startup and then kdm crashes, or no X at all?23:25
X9nLinux9picatchu: You're using two screens right now?  (What machine?)23:26
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X9nLinux9and... what version are you running?23:26
Guest11608Kubuntu 8.0423:27
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picatchuX9nLinux: a thinkpad - one is the built-in screen, and the other a tft connected via VGA. Running inteprid, and it pretty much worked out of the box. Screens can be configured in different ways on the fly using xrandr.23:28
Exilanti'm also running two screens, in 9.423:29
compilerwriter!which23:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about which23:30
picatchuDaSkreech: quite a few packages were upgraded, including a number of kde packages, such as: kdelibs-bin 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu2~intrepid123:30
Exilantpicatchu: one'll have to create a virtual desktop area of suffient size in xorg.conf, or is that outdated?23:30
Exilant(for non-clone)23:30
compilerwriter!whence23:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about whence23:30
DaSkreechubuntu__: Hello?23:30
ubuntu__Exilant  ok, wen i swtich on i get kubuntu logo and the progress bar. then I end up on a black screen telling kinit no resumeimage found. doing normal boot. login ntp stopping          ntp starting            there i enter mz user name then pw. startx brings a blue screen with the following error message. /home/user/xsession does not exist  /home/user/Xsession does not ecist.  No session manager found. No window manager found. no termin23:31
ubuntu__al emulators found.23:31
DaSkreechpicatchu: Was khotkeys updated?23:31
ubuntu__DaSkrecche  Hi!  Problem still not solved.23:31
DaSkreechubuntu__: you are on the machine now?23:32
picatchuExilant: when I choose a certain resolution for one of the outputs, the other is automatically adjusted, so no need to set a virtual desktop. Not sure how this works if you want two screens next to each other however...23:32
ubuntu__DaSkreech on the machine yes, but with live cd, as Konversation doesnt start from konsole23:33
DaSkreechcompilerwriter: try xorg-dev23:34
ubuntu__DaSkreech Exilant>   sudo apt-get install kubuntu=desktop  shows all packages like okular and konqueror but sazs it doesnt install them. and then says> E  broken packages23:34
compilerwriterThanks Daskreech23:34
DaSkreechubuntu__: ok open a konsole and mount your hard drive23:34
ubuntu__ok23:35
ubuntu__done23:35
picatchuDaSkreech: there is no such package, it's in kde-workspace-data... which was not upgraded...23:35
DaSkreechubuntu__: do a sudo chroot /path/to/mountpoint23:36
DaSkreechpicatchu: Maybe upgrage that then ?23:36
ubuntu__DaSkreech> done23:37
picatchuDaSkreech: no upgrade... I just thought others may have had the same problem, since it seems related to today's upgrades. But, as nobody else seems to complain, it may be specific to my setup... wait and see, I guess, not idea what else to do.23:37
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DaSkreechubuntu__: What does sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop say23:40
DaSkreechpicatchu: Ok you may want to step into #kubuntu-devel and let them know as well23:41
luc_lol, i`m very new at kubuntu, but i have a folder that is locked. How can i open this folder?23:41
DaSkreechMay be an oversight of packaging or a known bug that will get fixed soon23:41
DaSkreechluc_: Which folder ?23:41
luc_cstrike, wannnnnnna try to run a dedicated server23:42
luc_just installed it from manual on internet23:42
ubuntu__DaSkreech it shows all packages recommended and says thez shall not be installed. finally it states> E   broken packages23:42
DaSkreechubuntu__: You should be inside your broken install with the chroot btw ubuntu__23:42
picatchuDaSkreech: good point, thanks!23:42
DaSkreechubuntu__: can You pastebin that entire error?23:42
DaSkreech!paste | ubuntu__23:42
ubottuubuntu__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:42
DaSkreechluc_: Who owns the directory ?23:43
ubuntu__DaSkreech its German23:43
luc_the root i think, let me cheeeeeeeeck23:43
DaSkreechubuntu__: I'll probably survive23:43
jillsmitthi, problem with icons in tray. they are disappearing23:46
ubuntu__DaSkreech>  it was in German when i tried it  before. seems now it|s english    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120787/23:46
luc_lol, remote deskttop from K has some delay23:47
luc_Owner is root23:48
DaSkreechluc_: That's the problem. Who should own the directory? check the docs23:48
DaSkreechubuntu__: What does sudo apt-get update say ?23:48
luc_i`m just trying to find out how to use the sudo orrr dkesudoo to open it23:48
luc_i have i know it`s something                         with permissions, bbbbut how do i change it`s owneeeeeeeeer23:51
ubuntu__DaSkreech   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120790/23:51
DaSkreechluc_: First lets find out if you can change it;s owner and it will work. look at the docs and see if they say it has to be owned by a special user23:52
luc_at the ownership group and   user are root23:54
DaSkreechluc_: yes I get that are they suppsoed to be root? Look at the documentation for the CS server23:59
DaSkreechubuntu__: That looks like a problem can You ping security.ubuntu.com ?23:59

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