[00:00] <StR|Sangreal> what is the use of the second button on the window header?
[00:00] <peaches> any way to refresh the K Menu? i have some old crap there from hardy that is no longer relevant just as broken menu apps
[00:00] <StR|Sangreal> (a switchable circle in my case)
[00:01] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: It's a pin
[00:01] <StR|Sangreal> what for?
[00:01] <DaSkreech> It will stick the window so it turns up on all desktops
[00:01] <StR|Sangreal> aha
[00:01] <DaSkreech> if you press it then switch to a new desktop the window exists there as well
[00:01] <StR|Sangreal> understood, thx
[00:01] <olskolirc> what is the repository link that I would need to upgrade my kde from kde 4.1 to kde 4.2 stable
[00:01] <DaSkreech> olskolirc: It's in the topic
[00:02] <olskolirc> sorry and thanks
[00:02] <Luija> DaSkreech
[00:02] <Luija> it has an error
[00:02] <DaSkreech> Luija:
[00:02] <Luija> alread restared
[00:03]  * DaSkreech wonders if he should just make Luija install it the easy way
[00:04]  * DaSkreech waves
[00:05] <Luija> how i can DaSkreech?
[00:07] <DaSkreech> Luija: The easy way is to install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:07] <DaSkreech> That installs a whole lot of rubbish but it installs basically all the stuff you need
[00:07] <Luija> tell me how then :)
[00:07] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:08] <DaSkreech> Close firefox
[00:08] <AndySpain> and when I have varios user sasseion in parallel I can swtich between them clicking on switch user. But sometimes, if one of the ouser logs out, I can only open a new session on ligin screen, and only from there i can get to the other active session
[00:08] <AndySpain> so one must always be aborted in order to shutdown
[00:08] <Luija> and what rubbish it installs?
[00:09] <chris-rc1> hi
[00:09] <DaSkreech> all manner of things restricted
[00:09] <DaSkreech> !hi
[00:09] <Luija> restrited...? lol
[00:09] <chris-rc1> the hdd usage plasmoid shows different values for free disk space than df. anybody know why?
[00:11] <Luija> DaSkreech, what class of rubbish things?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip1> chris-rc1: is it wildly different or are we talking a few Mb ?
[00:12] <chris-rc1> its 10 gigs of for /home
[00:13] <tuxi> one of my mounts has 44G available according to df -h but the widget shows 67.3 GiB
[00:13] <cjae> anyone here using separate x screens with kde 4.2 (nvidia-settings)? I tried to do it awhile ago and would only work with twinview
[00:14] <essial> Whoever designed the kde 4.x default theme deserves a medal
[00:14] <tuxi> cjae I only use twinview
[00:15] <cjae> tuxi: ya I even tried using an old hand edited xorg and all I could get is a balck screen on tv out, and the xorg.conf worked in all other distros b4
[00:15] <cjae> black
[00:16] <tuxi> I haven't tried TV out
[00:16] <tuxi> I run an external monitor via KVM so twinview is what fits my bill
[00:16] <olskolirc> can someone say my name please?
[00:17] <cjae> do your windows open on the proper screens?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip1> olskolirc:
[00:17] <cjae> olskolirc:
[00:17] <olskolirc> ty
[00:17] <ActionParsnip1> olskolirc:
[00:17] <chris-rc1> tuxi: how big is this partition?
[00:17] <DaSkreech> os
[00:17] <DaSkreech> olskolirc:
[00:17] <tuxi> twinview is a duplicate
[00:17] <cjae> no thats xineramam
[00:17] <tuxi> chris-rc1 113G according to df -h
[00:17] <ActionParsnip1> chris-rc1: is it accurate after a reboot?
[00:18] <cjae> -m
[00:18] <cjae> brb
[00:18] <chris-rc1> ActionParsnip1: i don't think so
[00:18] <chris-rc1> got this from #kde
[00:19] <chris-rc1> Plasmoid is not taking into account the reserve space for root.
[00:19] <chris-rc1> 5% is the default for Debian.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip1> chris-rc1: possibly, i'd create a bug report
[00:19] <chris-rc1> ActionParsnip1: silly question, but how do i do this?
[00:20] <chris-rc1> tuxi: so your partition is just 113 gigs in size?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip1> !bug
[00:20] <tuxi> that partition is, yes
[00:21] <ActionParsnip1> 113Gb is bigger than this systems drive
[00:21] <tuxi> I have one drive that is virtually empty 232G total with 220G free by df, 230.9 GiB from the plasmoid
[00:21] <tuxi> 230.9 GiB available, that is
[00:22] <tuxi> chris-rc1, pm?
[00:24] <chris-rc1> tuxi: pm?
[00:24] <tuxi> pm == private message
[00:24] <amgarching> 230*1000/1024 == 224
[00:25] <tuxi> I'll post a screenshot with all the info
[00:25] <chris-rc1> amgarching: why that?
[00:25] <StR|Sangreal> can i setup optacity for widgets?
[00:25] <chris-rc1> they don't use 1000, do they?
[00:26] <chris-rc1> tuxi: sounds like 5% to me
[00:26] <amgarching> rather 230*1000000/1024/1024 = 219, GiB /= GB
[00:29] <tuxi> chris-rc1 a screenshot is at http://ripabe.net/misc/df_v_hdd_plasmoid.png
[00:29] <chris-rc1> amgarching: so you are saying the plasmoid use a multiplier of 1000?
[00:29] <tuxi> gibibytes versus gigabytes doesn't explain it
[00:30] <amgarching> GiB is new and confusing, right
[00:30] <drostie> chris-rc1: quite the opposite. Linux in general uses the convention 1 MB = 1000000B.
[00:30] <drostie> However, anything that reports "MiB" is reporting mebibytes, not megabytes.
[00:30] <drostie> 1 MiB = 1048576 B.
[00:31] <drostie> This is around 5% larger, which might explain a ~5% discrepancy directly.
[00:31] <tuxi> using df, -h is human readable but -H or --si uses powers of 10 (instead of two)
[00:31] <tuxi> do a "man df"
[00:31] <chris-rc1> ok, as far as i know linux in general uses 1024, just called it mega (like any other os/app). now they just (finally) changed the denomination
[00:32] <tuxi> and the plasmoid reports higher values making it a bug imho
[00:32] <tuxi> chris-rc1, if you post the bug, feel free to copy my screenshot
[00:32] <chris-rc1> i agree with tuxi, why would there be an -H option otherwise
[00:32] <tuxi> exactly
[00:32] <chris-rc1> tuxi: ok
[00:33] <tuxi> bbl
[00:35] <drostie> Okay. I think I can agree with both of you after checking it out for myself, because I have also a fat32-formatted iPod, which seems to report the same in both df and the plasmoid.
[00:37] <DaSkreech> hi Ramblurr
[00:37] <drostie> The magnitude of the error for me is 4.9% +/- 0.4%
[00:38] <drostie> The 5% as reserved blocks makes some sense.
[00:39] <tuxi> mine is almost 10%
[00:39] <tuxi> and depends on which of the two reports I appear to get in the plasmoid
[00:40] <tuxi> I actually have a twist -- two similarly named mount points x 3
[00:43] <drostie> Well, some twists matter and some twists don't. The plasmoid says that it displays the disk usage of "root" (rather than the actual partition, which is in /dev/mapper). This might presumably include /media/IPOD, but it doesn't.
[00:43] <tuxi> my /home has 7.5G free by df but 8.9GiB from the plasmoid (18% higher)
[00:43] <chris-rc1> thing is that this would mean that there "could" be multiplier bug in the plasmoid, so it could use 1000 instead of 1024 which would yield the same results
[00:44] <tuxi> drostie look at the configuration to see if /media/IPOD is even shown
[00:44] <drostie> It's shown separately. I'm just wondering where the system got these names from. ^_^
[00:44] <StR|Sangreal> pls could sb advise me a package with further widgets for plasma?
[00:45] <tuxi> did you look for all plasmoid packages?
[00:45] <Luija> DaSkreech
[00:45] <Luija> finally i have java :)
[00:45] <StR|Sangreal> i have just kdeplasma-addons installed
[00:45] <StR|Sangreal> and i am not truly contented with its possibilities
[00:45] <tuxi> are you on 4.1 or 4.2?
[00:46] <StR|Sangreal> and i would like to find sth better
[00:46] <StR|Sangreal> 4.2
[00:46] <chris-rc1> tuxi: so your /home is only 28 gigs?
[00:46] <tuxi> 30G
[00:46] <tuxi> I have a lot of stuff on other mount points like my /shared /smb /video mount points
[00:47] <chris-rc1> tuxi: but then it fits
[00:47] <drostie> StR|Sangreal: [aptitude search plasm]
[00:47] <chris-rc1> its 5%, not 18%
[00:47] <tuxi> the over reporting is 5% of the total where I was saying it's 18% over the df reported free space
[00:47] <DaSkreech> Luija: Good job :)
[00:48] <Luija> ei DaSkreech
[00:48] <Luija> i have an easy question
[00:48] <Luija> is about wifi
[00:48] <drostie> Since Saved By The Bell, I can't take the word "screech" seriously anymore.
[00:49] <Luija> DaSkreech: everytime i log out, or restart, the Knetwork becomes blue bars
[00:49] <Luija> at that point all is all right
[00:49] <drostie> (Well, actually, since I found out that Dustin Diamond was in a porno video called "screeched!")
[00:49] <StR|Sangreal> the output contains a table and the first collumn has 3 values: C, I and P
[00:49] <StR|Sangreal> what do they hold for?
[00:49] <chris-rc1> tuxi: but what matters is whether the difference between the two values (from the plasmoid and df) is equal to 5% of the total disk space
[00:49] <tuxi> it
[00:49] <Luija> DaSkreech: but, when i log in, every time, i have to click in Knetwork, and choose my router: Wireless G, why is tthat if i have autoconnect??
[00:49] <drostie> sorry. It's late and I'm being way off-topic.
[00:49] <tuxi> it's close to 5%, chris-rc1
[00:50] <DaSkreech> Luija: Well I think there is a current flaw in that the Wifi network connector is enabled when you login They are still trying to think that through properly
[00:50] <Luija> thats the bug true?
[00:50] <drostie> StR|Sangreal: what table are you referring to?
[00:50] <Luija> and they r fixing that DaSkreech?
[00:50] <DaSkreech> Luija: Ideally you should just turn on the computer and it auto connects on Wifi from the last settings. Yes it's a bug they are working on
[00:51] <Luija> ok :)
[00:51] <StR|Sangreal> aptitude search
[00:51] <tuxi> StR|Sangreal i is installed
[00:51] <Luija> they will be an actualization when that is fixed DaSkreech?
[00:51] <drostie> yeah. "i" is installed, "p" is uninstalled, and "v" means that something was installed but then removed, I believe.
[00:51] <DaSkreech> 4.3 is the hope
[00:52] <tuxi> and c=?
[00:53] <chris-rc1> tuxi: bottom line is that we still don't know whether it is 5% reserved space or it comes from the multiplier unless we calculate it "exactly" or sb actually knows their reserved space (preferably sth other that 5%)
[00:53] <drostie> [man aptitude] sayeth: p means there is no trace of the package, c means the package is deleted but the conffiles are still around, i means that the package is installed, v, in fact, means that the package is virtual.
[00:53] <tuxi> drostie, ty (duh shoulda done a man aptitude myself)
[00:54] <badpc> are there any screensavers on kubuntu?
[00:55] <chris-rc1> tuxi: well, i'm gonna file a bug report first thing in the morning. after all, the plasmoid claims to show values in GiB
[00:55] <chris-rc1> does anybody know whether the reserved space is actually usable even if not shown by df?
[00:56] <drostie> badpc: not by default, but there's a section for them in K > System Settings > Screen Saver.
[00:57] <badpc> drostie: are there any in the repos?
[00:57] <drostie> chris-rc1: I'm not sure you really want to. reserved space is used to automagically keep the filesystem from fragmentation.
[00:58] <chris-rc1> drostie: but once i reach the limit, is it used or automatically "locked"?
[00:58] <badpc> drostie: good point
[01:00] <draik_> DaSkreech: I've been trying to log in and I can't. It either freezes prior to the login menu or it freezes just after entering the password, hitting enter and then during the KDE splash screen.
[01:00] <DaSkreech> draik_: Ibex ?
[01:00] <draik_> Yes
[01:01] <judgen> How do i set the task list in hardy to use big icons instead of tiny ones?
[01:01] <tuxi> task list?
[01:01] <drostie> chris-rc1: I don't know. Google suggests that you might still have the ability to write to it as root, but not as a normal user.
[01:02] <drostie> The idea being that without it, you might break something "like sudo and rm", according to one ubuntuforums poster.
[01:02] <chris-rc1> thx for the info. that makes it pretty senseless to have it listed in the plasmoid (if it's the case)
[01:03] <drostie> judger: sorry, I'm not on hardy, and the desktop environment has changed since then. :-x
[01:04] <drostie> badpc: [aptitude search screen] suggests packages like "kscreensaver" on jaunty; I don't know which distro you use and what's available there.
[01:06] <chris-rc1> -> bedtime
[01:06] <chris-rc1> goodnight. bug time tomorrow
[01:06] <badpc> drostie: using jaunty
[01:06] <judgen> drostie: ofcourse it has. but i dont like kde4 yet so i have to use hardy.
[01:07] <drostie> badpc: also, kdescreensaver-aasaver is apparently an "asciiquarium".
[01:07] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal: You can just drag stuff to the panel
[01:07] <drostie> judger: I know. Not trying to guilt-trip you or anything; I'm just apologizing that I can't help.
[01:08] <judgen> ok
[01:09] <badpc> drostie: cant find any of those in jaunty?
[01:10] <Luija> DaSkreech, could u help me to install KDE 4.2 in my kubuntu?
[01:10] <DaSkreech> Luija: Its in the topic
[01:10] <Luija> mmm?
[01:11] <Luija> ohohoh found it :)
[01:12] <drostie> Luija: warning: KDE 4.2 may or may not break your computer. Just saying.
[01:12] <Luija> break?!
[01:13] <essial> Man Qt is awsome
[01:13] <drostie> More properly, break your desktop environment in your computer, I suppose. It's not like it will pop out of your computer with a hammer and start smashing it to bits.
[01:13] <essial> I wrote a text editor with load/save capabilities in Qt Creator in about 2 minutes -- not a record but pretty darn close :)
[01:14] <Melchiorro> essial: nice :)
[01:14] <essial> and since 4.5 is LGPL I can make my awsome IRC client with it :)
[01:14] <essial> And all you closed source linux app haters can kiss my butt :p
[01:15] <judgen> essial: bitchx with a scrollable qt wndow?
[01:15] <essial> no
[01:15] <judgen> hehe
[01:15] <essial> I'm not stupid :)
[01:15] <judgen> bitchx is good
[01:15] <essial> Theres a bunch of IRC clients out there, I'm not writing a clone
[01:16] <judgen> so wat are you intending to do differently?
[01:16] <essial> For one, making managing busy chatrooms easier
[01:16] <essial> *easier to manage when talking to multiple people
[01:17] <drostie> badpc: they're there according to packages.ubuntu.com ... is  your sources.list okay and have you updated your package list recently?
[01:17] <essial> SSL support and such of course
[01:17] <essial> and heavy scripting support for bots and such
[01:17] <StR|Sangreal> is there sth like my favourite folder?
[01:17] <draik_> DaSkreech: I wonder what would happen if I backed up the partition and brought it back again to the 1TB
[01:17] <essial> but first and formost I want to be able to help someone in #ubuntu and not have to dig through miles of scrolling text
[01:18] <essial> With my client it will be simple :)
[01:18] <judgen> ok
[01:20] <DaSkreech> essial: I thought that you were doing a for sale closed app?
[01:20] <drostie> is there qt for windows, or are you designing something that will only work for the linux community?
[01:20] <judgen> there is qt for win and mac too
[01:21] <drostie> right on.
[01:22] <draik_> DaSkreech: Do you see that as being an issue?
[01:22] <DaSkreech> draik_: Sorry waht was the issue?
[01:22] <DaSkreech> Thre is Qt for *
[01:23] <DaSkreech> draik_: Did you try and back up your ~/.kde directory ?
[01:23] <khalidmian> have unfortunately forgotten the resolution to divx screaming video  apparently there is an ubuntu program that eanbles you to buffer? and then play using vlc or something?
[01:23] <draik_> DaSkreech: Yup. Did that and it froze when I tried to set Yakuake to 100%W and 50%H.
[01:24] <DaSkreech> draik_: I'm guessing Yakukae for KDE4?
[01:24] <draik_> That is correct, DaSkreech
[01:24] <Xenos> Yakuza for KDE4? It pops out of your keyboard and takes the tip of your little finger?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> draik_: What video card do you have ?
[01:25] <draik_> nVidia GeForce 5700LE
[01:25] <DaSkreech> Xenos: If you press F12 yes :)
[01:27] <draik_> DaSkreech: I had a 500GB with XP on part1 and Kubuntu on part2. I then got the 1TB and xfer'd the Kubuntu to the 1TB, then gave 500GB all to XP. It stopped working once I xfer'd the part.
[01:28] <DaSkreech> how did you transfer?
[01:29] <draik_> Norton Ghost. 1-to-1 copy.
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Oh That should work I suppose
[01:32] <khalidmian> HI looking for help on something pls
[01:32] <draik_> It should, and technically it does, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the HDD change and also the fact that it keeps on referring the HDD space as being the same as opposed to the 1TB.
[01:37] <DaSkreech> draik_: Really Hmm how are you getting that output?
[01:37] <khalidmian> how can one watch divx streaming videos in kubuntu/ubuntu
[01:37] <DaSkreech> draik_: can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l and the contents of /etc/fstab ?
[01:37] <khalid> como puedo desnstalar a compiz fusion de ubuntu 8.04
[01:37] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: install Divx codecs
[01:37] <DaSkreech> !es
[01:38] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: I DID
[01:38] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: still cant watch streaming video
[01:38] <DaSkreech> Ok where are you streaming the videos from?
[01:38] <khalid> ok gracias
[01:42] <draik_> DaSkreech: I'll try. I haven't been able to access TTY again.
[01:44] <badpc> how do i install screensavers in jaunty?
[01:46] <DaSkreech> There is probably a kscreensavers package
[01:46] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: http://www.movshare.net/video/19avoytywbs6p#
[01:47] <badpc> DaSkreech: tried typing everything in adept and nothing comes up
[01:49] <drostie> badpc: try the adept manager rather than the adept installer.
[01:49] <drostie> K > Applications > System > Adept Manager
[01:49] <draik_> DaSkreech: It keeps on freezing prior to the login.
[01:50] <essial> I don't have screensavers nor can I find any in adept personally
[01:50] <essial> but blank screen is fine for me
[01:53] <draik_> GOT IT! DaSkreech
[01:54] <draik_> What is the pastebin command in CLI?
[01:54] <khalidmian> do i need mplayerrr to play divx?
[01:54] <khalidmian> cant vlc do the same trick?
[01:54] <DaSkreech> pastebinint
[01:54] <draik_> Got it
[01:54] <Alex135> !mp3|khalidmian
[01:54] <DaSkreech> yes mplayer can I used to use kmplayer to stream divx stuff
[01:55] <draik_> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/f4438da55
[01:55] <draik_> That is my sudo fdisk -l
[01:55] <draik_> DaSkreech: How do I get the contents of /etc/fstab to pastebinit?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> cat file | pastebininit
[01:56] <DaSkreech> spelt properly
[01:56] <draik_> :)
[01:56] <draik_> http://pastebin.com/f7ba5e03
[01:57] <draik_> fstab is wrong!
[01:58] <draik_> DaSkreech: What would happen if I manually edited fstab?
[01:58] <DaSkreech> draik_: That's what I thought was the problem
[01:58] <DaSkreech> Then it would probably work
[01:58] <drostie> dude, one of the opengl kde screensavers is a cow on a trampoline.
[01:58] <draik_> Actually, not manually, but how can I myself (if not a command already) fix fstab?
[01:59] <khalidmian> ok so i got kstreamripper what and how do i use it LOL
[02:02] <draik_> DaSkreech: Is there a way to edit the contents accordingly?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> draik_: what's the output of mount ?
[02:03] <DaSkreech> man kstreamripper khalidmian
[02:03] <khalidmian> man?
[02:04] <draik_> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/f4f3435f1
[02:04] <Walzmyn> man == manual , use it in a terminal
[02:05] <DaSkreech> or in konqueror
[02:05] <DaSkreech> man:/konqueror
[02:06] <draik_> man:woman
[02:06] <DaSkreech> man:/man actually
[02:06] <DaSkreech> man:/ woman causes a segfault
[02:06] <DaSkreech> there is no manual for woman
[02:07] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: so do i just type man:/firefox for kstreamer to work ?
[02:07] <drostie> That is so not true. So many relationship errors that I have seen over the years were "Dude, RTFM" type mistakes...
[02:11] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: You type in man:/kstreamripper
[02:12] <khalidmian> bash: man:/kstreamripper: No such file or directory
[02:12] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Haha No just man kstreamripper
[02:12] <DaSkreech> No :/ in bash
[02:13] <khalidmian> bash: cd: bash: No such file or directory
[02:14] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: What are you typing in?
[02:14] <drostie> In other words, [man] is a program which shows you manual pages. When you are at the text prompt, you can type [man kstreamripper] (without the brackets, of course) to learn stuff.
[02:14] <drostie> Not [bash: man kstreamripper] but just [man kstreamripper].
[02:15] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: mplayer works for me btw
[02:15] <draik_> DaSkreech: How do I find out my /dev/hd_ for my 2 DVD-ROMs?
[02:15] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: I have the mplayer-plugin installed
[02:15] <DaSkreech> draik_: Hmm ?
[02:15] <DaSkreech> draik_:
[02:15] <DaSkreech> Would be in mount
[02:15] <DaSkreech>  just type mount
[02:15] <draik_> OK
[02:16] <draik_> DaSkreech: Not found in mount
[02:16] <DaSkreech> are they mounted?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> of course they aren't
[02:16] <draik_> No
[02:16] <DaSkreech> fstab is messed up :)
[02:16] <draik_> This is per /etc/fstab
[02:16] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: mplayer works for kubuntu?
[02:16] <DaSkreech> drail
[02:16] <draik_> So I should comment them out in fstab?
[02:17] <DaSkreech> draik_: try mount /dev/dvd
[02:17] <draik_> For which one?
[02:17] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: Sure it doesn't care
[02:18] <draik_> Cannot find /dev/dvd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:18] <DaSkreech> draik_: What are you doing?
[02:18] <draik_> Setting up fstab manually
[02:18] <draik_> I can leave them commented, that's not an issue
[02:19] <drostie> draik_: does /dev/dvd exist?
[02:20] <draik_> Nope
[02:20] <draik_> DaSkreech: Cannot find /dev/dvd in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:20] <drostie> Well there's your problem :-P
[02:20] <DaSkreech> draik_: I meant sudo mount /dev/dvd /path/to/some/dir
[02:20] <drostie> can you get the dvd in the drive?
[02:20] <drostie> and then maybe access it somehow else?
[02:21] <draik_> It has them listed as /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd in fstab. Yeah, I can put a DVD in the drive.
[02:21] <StR|Sangreal1> hi pls how can i install WeatherBug.gg downloaded from google gadgets as a plasma widget?
[02:21] <DaSkreech> StR|Sangreal1: #kde and #plasma would be a bit more versed
[02:21] <DaSkreech> #plasma might have a direct answer
[02:21] <draik_> OK. I have a disc in the drive.
[02:21] <draik_> Do mount?
[02:22] <StR|Sangreal1> #kde is deserted :D
[02:22] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: install mozilla-mplayer
[02:22] <drostie> Yeah. You can now mount to a directory with [sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom] if /media/cdrom exists ( [sudo mkdir /media/cdrom] ).
[02:22] <StR|Sangreal1> and plasma is deserted too
[02:22] <essial> daskreech: how do I get gameguard to play nice with linux
[02:22] <drostie> Assuming that /dev/hdc is really your dvd drive.
[02:22] <essial> (I joke.. I joke... meh)
[02:23] <Nichod> ew weatherbug
[02:23] <Nichod> really?
[02:23] <essial> str: why would you use gameguard
[02:23] <essial> BLA i mean weatherbug
[02:24] <draik_> drostie: /dev/hdc does not exist   :(
[02:24] <draik_> How can I find out where it is on /dev?
[02:25] <drostie> draik: /etc/fstab is just shortcuts. For example, when my usb key is in the drive, it has an /etc/fstab entry, so it will (a) automatically get mounted at boot time, if possible, to /media/cruzer, and (b) I can just mount it with [sudo mount /dev/sdb1] and it will know automatically to put it at /media/cruzer.
[02:25] <drostie> Can you get the dvd opened in Dolphin?
[02:25] <draik_> drostie: I never knew that.
[02:25] <ubuntu__> hey guys
[02:25] <ubuntu__> quick question
[02:26] <ubuntu__> how much is a good amount for swap space
[02:26] <draik_> drostie: I am not using a GUI. GUI tends to freeze. I'm on TTY1
[02:26] <draik_> ubuntu__: swap = RAM
[02:26] <draik_> ubuntu__: I should rephrase that. Swap should equal the amount of RAM on your system.
[02:26] <drostie> Normal advice: 1.5 times RAM. Realistically: dunno, depends on how much memory you have and how much you load it.
[02:27] <ubuntu__> i have a 1 gb of ram i think
[02:27] <ubuntu__> would that suffice
[02:27] <draik_> Then I don't think you need swap
[02:27] <drostie> Also, on how much disk space you have. I'm running without any swap, and I don't need it, 'cause I have 2 GB of RAM and don't multitask too hard.
[02:27] <draik_> Wouldn't hurt, but I don't think it's necessary.
[02:27] <ubuntu__> i am putting it on a 20 gb partition
[02:27] <draik_> I have 3GB RAM and no swap. it's on your usage.
[02:28] <ubuntu__> i plan on doing a little development
[02:28] <drostie> ubuntu__: do you want to be able to hibernate this computer?
[02:28] <ubuntu__> sure, i want to reverse all standard funcitonality
[02:28] <ubuntu__> functionality*
[02:28] <ubuntu__> reserve*
[02:29] <ubuntu__> would 1 gb swap work?
[02:29] <drostie> then go with something like 1.5 GB or 2 GB swap. it's safe space if you multitask, it's enough swap to hibernate to, and it's probably not critical for the rest of the space.
[02:29] <ubuntu__> ok cool
[02:29] <ubuntu__> thanks
[02:29] <ubuntu__> except to see me more on this channel
[02:29] <ubuntu__> :D
[02:30] <drostie> draik_: okay, so, teletype cdroms. hm.
[02:31]  * draik_ crosses his fingers. "I'm about to go into this GUI and hope the mods in /etc/fstab will stop the freezing"
[02:31] <badpc> could someone tell me what exactly the dashboard is for?
[02:31] <ubuntu__> oh hey sorry guys
[02:31] <ubuntu__> another quick question
[02:31] <ubuntu__> whatever partition i want to be the root
[02:32] <ubuntu__> would i make that primary or logical
[02:32]  * draik_ swears profusely at the freeze!!!!
[02:33] <drostie> badpc: just a different way to look at the current desktop layout, especially without cluttering windows.
[02:33] <drostie> ubuntu__: primary, unless you have a whole lot of primary drives already.
[02:33] <ubuntu__> ok
[02:33] <ubuntu__> and ext_3
[02:33] <ubuntu__> right?
[02:33] <ubuntu__> for type
[02:34] <draik_> Yes
[02:34] <ubuntu__> ok thank you
[02:34] <drostie> ext4 if your kernel is new enough.
[02:34] <draik_> drostie: It is still freezing up on me. What am I missing?
[02:34] <drostie> unless it's a usb key.
[02:34] <drostie> then ext2.
[02:34] <DaSkreech> And you are kinda crazy
[02:35] <drostie> draik_: I don't know; I wasn't here at the beginning when you described the problem. What, exactly, is the problem?
[02:35] <DaSkreech> draik_: Ok mkdir drive
[02:35] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/dvd drive
[02:36] <draik_> I get into the GUI (KDE or OpenBox) and the system will freeze when I try to load an app (k3b, firefox, frostwire, etc...)
[02:36] <DaSkreech> draik_: probably trying to get into it's settings
[02:36] <DaSkreech> did you pastebin the output of mount ?
[02:37] <draik_> Yes
[02:37] <draik_> http://pastebin.com/f4f3435f1
[02:37] <DaSkreech> Sorry I missed it
[02:38] <DaSkreech> Ok no that doesn't make sense
[02:38] <DaSkreech> you have a single partition
[02:38] <drostie> okay, draik_: I've been reading the logs above. So, you've got two drives. One has kubuntu on it, newly transferred from a drive where it worked. Correct?
[02:39] <drostie> And now it doesn't work, but it boots up almost everything, including the kdm and login, but then crashes *after* that?
[02:40] <DaSkreech> draik_: what does sf -h say ?
[02:40] <draik_> Yes, that is correct.
[02:41] <badpc> anyone know how to rip a dvd in kubumtu?
[02:41] <drostie> Do any of the lines in /etc/fstab make reference to UUIDs?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> draik_: df -h
[02:41] <DaSkreech> drostie: They all do
[02:42] <draik_> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/f510c81a
[02:43] <Luija> DaSkreech
[02:43] <draik_> DaSkreech: Should I copy back my ~/.kde from ~/.kdeBACKUP ?
[02:43] <Luija> i got a major problem
[02:43] <Luija> i am talking from windows
[02:43] <DaSkreech> How come fdisk says 1000 Gb and df says 347Gb ?
[02:43] <drostie> And are the UUIDs matching the results of, e.g. [sudo blkid /dev/sda1] and so forth?
[02:43] <draik_> DaSkreech: I don't know.
[02:43] <Luija> there is not a way to restore my KDE 4.1 DaSkreech?
[02:43] <draik_> Yes, they were all matching.
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Luija: Yeah there is what's the problem?
[02:44] <Luija> All resumes in 2 words DaSkreech
[02:44] <drostie> draik: Did Norton make a complete bit-for-bit disk clone?
[02:45] <drostie> or something like it?
[02:45] <draik_> drostie: Yes
[02:45] <DaSkreech> Luija: Hmm ?
[02:45] <Luija> Black Screen -______-
[02:45] <drostie> Was the original drive 350 GB?
[02:45] <DaSkreech> Oh resume from disk ?
[02:45] <Luija> ehh?
[02:45] <DaSkreech> What's black screen?
[02:45] <draik_> drostie: I also chose for it to use the rest of the unallocated space. The partition was 350GB from the 500GB.
[02:45] <Luija> okay, got black screen
[02:46] <Luija> after taht
[02:46] <Luija> some things were missing
[02:46] <Luija> and blablabla
[02:46] <Luija> a big problem
[02:46] <DaSkreech> How did you get a black screen?
[02:46] <drostie> Okay. So if I had to guess, you now have an ext3 partition which *thinks* its on a 350 GB partition but is really on a 1TB partition.
[02:46] <Luija> It seems i  got a error of something missing
[02:46] <drostie> s/its/it's
[02:46] <draik_> drostie: You got it
[02:46] <Luija> i want KDE 4.1 back, i can?
[02:46] <DaSkreech> Still oesn't explain the crashes
[02:47] <draik_> I know. :(
[02:47] <Luija> or maybe i can just delete Kubuntu and install it again :)
[02:47] <Cybio> Luija: But what did you do before you got this error?
[02:47] <draik_> DaSkreech: Anything wrong with me copying my ~/.kde backup back to ~/.kde?
[02:47] <drostie> draik_: you still have access to all of the files for a big [sudo cp -a] action? O:-)
[02:48] <Luija> Cybio, install KDE 4.2
[02:48] <DaSkreech> Luija: Sure remove the line from /etc/apt/sources.list at the bottom then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <Luija> i should listen the guy than say me KDE could make ubuntu crash lololol
[02:48] <draik_> drostie: copy them where?
[02:48] <Luija> DaSkreech, i cant open Konversation in kubuntu now
[02:48] <Luija> i can delete ubuntu in windows?
[02:48] <Luija> kubuntu*
[02:49] <DaSkreech> Doubtful
[02:49] <Luija> ...
[02:49] <Cybio> Mmm :-) what ever you think is faster
[02:49] <drostie> draik_ actually, maybe you should just first try to e2fsck it.
[02:50] <Luija> DaSkreech, i cant just delete the kubuntu folder in the disc D, and OS will be gone?
[02:50] <draik_> drostie: Log out of KDE and use TTY1? Then run 'sudo e2fsck'?
[02:50] <draik_> Luija: Windows won't see the partition without special apps.
[02:50] <drostie> draik_: but my idea is this: resize the main partition to ~500 GB. Create /dev/sda2, properly formatted. copy everything from /dev/sda1 to that, with the -a option set.
[02:51] <Luija> oh my god... then what i will do...
[02:51] <Cybio>  Luija has installed with Wubi
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Luija: did you install in Wubi ?
[02:51] <Luija> yep
[02:51] <Cybio> so there is in Vista a Ubuntu folder/file
[02:51] <Luija> YES
[02:52] <DaSkreech> Luija: Go to add/remove programs and remove it
[02:52] <Cybio> you can uninstall from the control panel
[02:52] <draik_> drostie: That's going to be an issue. I'm using the entire partition and yet it is marked as 350GB.
[02:53] <Luija> BUT HOW
[02:53] <Luija> srry caps
[02:53] <Luija> but how cybio
[02:53] <DaSkreech> drostie: Figured out why everythign crashes yet?
[02:53] <Luija> i go to delete programs
[02:53] <Luija> and the folder dont appear
[02:54] <Cybio> Luija: yes
[02:54] <drostie> but yeah, draik_: I'm recommending that you run [sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1] and see what comes up. Maybe another option from [man e2fsck].
[02:54] <Cybio> mm
[02:54] <Luija> oh...
[02:54] <drostie> (specifically, the -f option, to force the file check.)
[02:54] <Luija> LOL
[02:54] <Luija> i am idiot
[02:54] <Luija> i will format the disc D :)
[02:55] <draik_> It froze while I was about to do a screenshot.
[02:55] <drostie> possibly also the -p option, for autofixing.
[02:55] <Cybio> Luija: no need i think ...
[02:55] <Cybio> just delete the folder is OK too .... i guess :-P
[02:55] <draik_> drostie: I ran qtparted. The size says 951.51GB and 304.73GB used. It looks great there. But df -h is what keeps on saying is it back to 350GB.
[02:56] <Luija> cybio, i do a quickly format to the disc d, is that enough?
[02:56] <Luija> it has all the GBs it has originally :)
[02:56] <drostie> draik_: and that's something wrong somewhere in your file system, so I want it fixed. ^_^
[02:56] <Cybio> if there is no other important data on there
[02:56] <draik_> drostie: I'm rebooting now. I will run the command in TTY1
[02:57] <drostie> k. I don't know if it can be done while /dev/sda is mounted, so you might have to boot into a live cd to do it properly.
[02:57] <draik_> OK. NP. I will do that once I reboot again.
[02:57] <Luija> cybio, i have to asignate some GBs to install the OS
[02:58] <Luija> how much GBs?
[02:58] <Luija> it says 15
[02:58] <Luija> but the box says 8 is recommended :S
[02:58] <Cybio> how big is the partition D ?
[02:58] <Luija> 69.5 GBS
[02:58] <draik_> drostie: You're right BTW. It cannot be done while mounted.
[02:58] <draik_> Rebooting into LiveCD now
[02:59] <Cybio> i think 30 GB is ok ...
[02:59] <Luija> u r kidding right?
[02:59] <drostie> heh. at least this linux tool doesn't let you shoot yourself in the foot. If only all GNU tools worked that way.
[02:59] <Cybio> hehehe :-) ... just depends on what you'll be doing
[02:59] <Luija> but the will be a big difference if a select 8 and no 15?
[02:59] <Luija> they*
[03:00] <Cybio> i mean ... for only the software you probably have with 8GB enough
[03:00] <Luija> ok :)
[03:00] <Cybio> but if you then go downloading DVD images then you'll have a problem
[03:01] <drostie> Luija: what's up now?
[03:01] <Luija> 0_0
[03:01] <Luija> so i choose 15 then cybio?
[03:01] <Cybio> yeah ... i think thats OK
[03:01] <drostie> You're reinstalling kubuntu?
[03:02] <Luija> hello drostie, Kubuntu crashed because a fatal error happened instaling KDE 4.3
[03:02] <Luija> 4.2*
[03:02] <drostie> ouch.
[03:02] <drostie> 4.2 works much more consistently when you install from the jaunty alpha 4 cd.
[03:02] <Luija> so Cybio, if i dont wanna have problems downloading Dvds Isos, how much GBs i have to choose?
[03:03] <DaSkreech> But then jaunty is unstable :)
[03:03] <Cybio> Luija: depends on what else you will be doing ...
[03:03] <drostie> "unstable" is a relative term. :-P
[03:03] <Luija> cybio, i know
[03:03] <Luija> but u say me i will have problems downloading Dvds isos
[03:03] <drostie> We're not, like, talking "windows 95" unstable here. ^_^
[03:03] <Luija> so how much GBs i have to choose?
[03:03] <draik_> drostie: I'm in the LiveCD now. Konsole is open and I'm ready to execute 'sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1'
[03:04] <Luija> to not have problems Cybio :)
[03:04] <Cybio> if you then also go to download a lot of music and movies and other linux images .... this will take up a lot of GB's
[03:04] <drostie> draik_: Lieutenant Worf: Engage!
[03:04] <drostie> ^_^
[03:04] <draik_> Huh?
[03:04] <Luija> Cybio... just say me the number...
[03:04] <drostie> never mind. --_--;;
[03:04] <draik_> It finished instantly
[03:05] <Cybio> Luija: ... just 15 GB is enough ...
[03:05] <Luija> NICE
[03:05] <Luija> but it was easy to tell me that lol
[03:05] <drostie> draik_: try [sudo e2fsck -f /dev/sda1] to force it to do a full check.
[03:05] <Cybio> :-) Can make the partition bigger if there is need for
[03:05] <draik_> drostie: Sorry, not a Star Trek fan (just google'd it)
[03:06] <Luija> so if i choose 15, i will not have problems downloading my music and my pirate movies cybio? lolololol
[03:06] <Cybio> Luija: heheeh ... how many pirated movies and music you'll need ? :-D
[03:07] <Luija> like 10 lolololol
[03:07] <Luija> 10 movies
[03:07] <Luija> and 200 songs lolololol
[03:07] <Luija> forget it, i will use a holy SD
[03:07] <Luija> okay Cybio, i choosed 15, but if there is low GBs, the OS will go slow or not?
[03:08] <drostie> remember kiddies, this forum is publicly logged. ^_^
[03:08] <Cybio> Luija: Not really ... downloads will just stop working ...
[03:09] <Cybio> programs like firefox won't start or you'll won't be getting into KDE :-P
[03:09] <Cybio> if there is no disk space left
[03:09] <Luija> LOL WTF, then why I choose 15???!!!
[03:09] <Luija> then 8 was right............
[03:09] <khalid>  buieno yo tingo una problema en copiz fusion no si qu hecho en los butones que hay en gestion de compiz fusion de pronto mi sale la pantalla blanca y no se ve nada de nada que tingo que a ser por favor
[03:09] <Cybio> hehehe
[03:10] <Cybio> just depends on what you want
[03:10] <Luija> i was joking about the 200 songs and movies LOL
[03:10] <drostie> !es | khalid
[03:10] <Cybio> just keep track on what the disk space is left
[03:11] <Luija> Cybio, decide, i will not be downloading dvds or movies constantly
[03:11] <Luija> and i have all my music in my SD
[03:11] <Luija> so 8 Gbs (recommended by box) or 15?
[03:11] <Luija> or 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 or 13
[03:11] <Luija> lololol
[03:11] <drostie> Luija: just flip a coin, choose a number, go with it, and stop pattering around.
[03:12] <drostie> It really doesn't matter if you're not going to fill it up.
[03:12] <Luija> dont be so rude with my, y am a newbie T_T
[03:12] <Luija> me*
[03:12] <Luija> I*
[03:12] <khalid> I buieno Tingo a problem in fusion copiz if not in fact what buton is on managing compiz fusion suddenly my screen goes white and is not a thing to be that Tingo please
[03:13] <Cybio> Maybe, later when you are more familiar with Linux, you might want to have a "real" Kubuntu :-P ... instead of inside Vista :-)
[03:13] <Luija> whats that of a real kubuntu
[03:13] <Luija> because i can install without wubi
[03:13] <Cybio> heeheh  kidding
[03:13] <Luija> if it is better
[03:13] <khalid> I buieno Tingo a problem in fusion copiz if not in fact what buton is on managing compiz fusion suddenly my screen goes white and is not a thing to be that Tingo please
[03:14] <Luija> bueno hijo de su concha madre, vaya a kubuntu es :)
[03:14] <Cybio> i mean ... you also can start the PC from the LiveCD instead of running inside Vista
[03:14] <Luija> LOL bromeo
[03:14] <Luija> but i will have to be changing CDs everytime lol
[03:15] <Luija> so say me, what is better, wubi or text mode?
[03:15] <Cybio> Luija: for you maybe it is better to get more familiar with Kubuntu/linux first
[03:16] <Luija> cybio, the thing i really want
[03:16] <Cybio> and choose to install inside Vista ... because you always can fall back on that
[03:16] <Luija> is to administrate my PC COMPLETELY from Kubuntu
[03:16] <Luija> so i dont wanna be changing to vista for changing grub
[03:16] <Luija> and etc
[03:17] <Cybio> The you'll need to install from a booted CD
[03:17] <Luija> so there is a real way to make Kubuntu indepent from Vista?
[03:17] <Luija> Booted?
[03:17] <Cybio> Luija: ... yes
[03:17] <draik_> drostie: Should it take this long?
[03:17] <draik_> It is still on Pass 1.
[03:18] <Luija> then where i can download this Booted CD?
[03:18] <Luija> i will need the CD always on the CD room for the OS to start Cybio?
[03:18] <Cybio> Luija: you can start the pc from booting from HD or from CD
[03:18] <Luija> and whats better, HD or CD?
[03:19] <Cybio> Luija: ... no ... then Grub will get isntalled inside the master boot record of the HD
[03:19] <Luija> u know cybio? forget it, i will install with wubi lol
[03:19] <Cybio> then you won't see a vista boot screen but grub boot screen
[03:19] <Cybio> Luija: that's what i said earlier :-) ...
[03:20] <Luija>  then you won't see a vista boot screen but grub boot screen" i was interested in that... but w/e
[03:20] <Cybio> from the grub boot screen you can also start vista ....
[03:22] <draik_> drostie: Never mind. It is now on pass 2. I guess it does take this long
[03:23] <draik_> drostie: It is done.
[03:23] <drostie> nothing to be fixed? o_O
[03:23] <ubuntu__> help!!!
[03:24] <ubuntu__> I killed mz kubuntu
[03:24] <ubuntu__> my
[03:24] <drostie> ubuntu__: what did you do this time? ^_^
[03:24] <draik_> results: /dev/sda1: 614958/46120960 files (4.5% non-contiguous), 76719843/92237189 blocks
[03:24] <ubuntu__> am on live cd now
[03:24] <ubuntu__> ok, there was the notifiacation that there were 39 updates available
[03:24] <ubuntu__> I installed them
[03:25] <draik_> drostie: Nope. Nothing to fix.
[03:25] <ubuntu__> then it said all done.
[03:25] <ubuntu__> and it old me there was still xine to be upgraded
[03:25] <ubuntu__> I clicked, ok
[03:25] <ubuntu__> It said it would delete files no longer neeeded
[03:25] <drostie> draik_: and df is still misreporting the number?
[03:25] <ubuntu__> then it said it must stop the x/server, and slowlz icons went disappearing
[03:26] <draik_> drostie: Yup
[03:26] <ubuntu__> and now when i trz to log in it sazs it connot start xserver coy there|s no xsessionfile
[03:27] <ubuntu__> damn, got another kezboard here
[03:27] <ubuntu__> keyboard
[03:27] <drostie> draik_: if the problem is not in the partition, it might be on the master boot record instead.
[03:27] <ubuntu__> drostie can u help me?
[03:27] <drostie> :-/ but I would have expected qtparted to deal with that.
[03:27] <draik_> drostie: What would happen if the HDD runs at 3 GB/s and system can only read at 1.5GB/s?
[03:28] <ubuntu__> i also tried recoverz mode
[03:28] <ubuntu__> and repair xserver there
[03:28] <drostie> draik_: that depends. The data might get buffered somewhere, or the drivers might physically slow the drive down, depending on the context, enzovoort.
[03:28] <ubuntu__> but to no avail
[03:29] <draik_> drostie: I just checked the drive with gparted from within LiveCD. Says there is only 59.19GB of unused space on the 1TB!!!
[03:29] <drostie> ubuntu__: mount your linux filesystem to /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so.
[03:29] <drostie> erm.
[03:29] <drostie> to /media/hd or so.
[03:30] <draik_> size = 931.51GB    used = 872.32GB     unused = 59.19GB
[03:30] <draik_> What gives?
[03:30] <ubuntu__> drostie> it|s automounted. dunno to where
[03:30] <drostie> draik: egads.
[03:30] <ubuntu__> but I can access it here throu dolphin
[03:31] <draik_> drostie: What gives?
[03:31] <drostie> ubuntu_: do you see the directory path at the top of Dolphin? Right click it and choose "Edit" to see where, exactly, it is."
[03:32] <ubuntu__> drostie> ok
[03:32] <drostie> draik_: I have no idea. I've never seen fsck do that.
[03:32] <ubuntu__> got it
[03:32] <ubuntu__> now?
[03:32] <drostie> I assume it's not filled with random data.
[03:33] <draik_> drostie: It's not from fsck. It is from gparted
[03:33] <draik_> The LiveCD says this through gparted.
[03:33] <draik_> The actual install says 350GB HDD, which everything else says it is ~350GB filled on a 1TB HDD.
[03:34] <draik_> s/which/while
[03:34] <drostie> ubuntu__: open up a terminal and [cd /media/hd/home/yourusername/] ... then [ls -al .x*] and tell me what's happening.
[03:35] <draik_> I'm going to boot into XP and see what is said by PartitionMagic
[03:35] <drostie> draik_: this is why direct disk images are bad. ^_^
[03:35] <drostie> draik: how much do you have, roughly, in actual files on that drive?
[03:36] <draik_> About 350GB
[03:36] <ubuntu__> drostie> ls: cannot access .x*: No such file or directory
[03:36] <draik_> Now I can't access XP!
[03:37] <drostie> GRUB tries to boot into XP and... what happens?
[03:37] <draik_> Starting up...
[03:37] <draik_> That's it
[03:37] <draik_> It doesn't do anything after that.
[03:37] <drostie> ubuntu: then just [ls -al] and see what's around.
[03:38] <draik_> I'm going to remove the 1.5GB/s jumper from the 1TB HDD
[03:39] <drostie> Trying to do this at 4:30 am is masochism. --_--;;
[03:39] <ubuntu__> ah sorry, drostie, i searched in home  not in home/username
[03:40] <ubuntu__> problem> I cannot change into user dierectorz as i made it access for user onlz
[03:40] <ubuntu__> only
[03:40] <drostie> draik_: what's your drive setup, exactly? one partition for kubuntu, one partition for xp, how are they set up?
[03:40] <ubuntu__> and sudo cp does not work
[03:40] <ubuntu__> and right now, im live cd user, thus a diffrerent user
[03:41] <drostie> ubuntu_: [sudo cd] wouldn't work, since you can't give the current shell a command via sudo. but you can still [sudo ls -al username] and that will list stuff.
[03:41] <draik_> drostie: Yes, that is the setup. Kubuntu is SATA through add-on card, XP is IDE0 Master.
[03:41] <drostie> draik_: where is GRUB?
[03:43] <ubuntu__> drostie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120430/
[03:43] <ubuntu__> now zou know all the files in mz home dir
[03:44] <ubuntu__> you
[03:44] <ubuntu__> my
[03:45] <ubuntu__> what shall i do now/
[03:45] <ubuntu__> ?
[03:47] <draik_> drostie: GRUB is on /dev/sda1 (1TB)
[03:48] <drostie> ubuntu__: after some googling, I'm now a bit lost. Your program is complaining that you don't have a .xsession file in your home directory, and it's right. But as far as I can tell, kdm doesn't use .xsession files. What, exactly, were you installing that broke the computer?
[03:49] <draik_> Cybio: What's going on? What's with the CTCP request?
[03:49] <Cybio> sorry ....
[03:49] <Cybio> :-)
[03:49] <drostie> draik_: so XP will boot if you change the boot order in BIOS, then, right?
[03:49] <draik_> drostie: I'm booting the system with 3.0GB/s now. No jumper. Let's see how that goes.
[03:49] <Cybio> kind of new with this :-P irc
[03:50] <draik_> drostie: Yes.
[03:50] <ubuntu__> i had firefox installed alreadz yesterday
[03:50] <ubuntu__> today transmission
[03:50] <ubuntu__> problem occured after upgrading xine
[03:50] <draik_> Launching firefox...
[03:50] <draik_> Frozen
[03:51] <draik_> It froze before the window even opened. I had the bouncing icon and then it stopped.
[03:51] <draik_> Bouncing icon is just there on my screen, but not much more going on here.
[03:51] <ubuntu__> and it now sazs it connot start xserver or something with x, and says aborting
[03:51] <ubuntu__> i can onlz log into konsole
[03:52] <ubuntu__> i will never again update or upgrade, once it works again
[03:53] <drostie> how are you logging into konsole?
[03:53] <ubuntu__> from recoverz mode
[03:53] <ubuntu__> there it then asks for login and pw
[03:53] <ubuntu__> but once i enter startx i get this error msg
[03:54] <ubuntu__> oh, and i installed ntpd
[03:55] <drostie> okay guys, listen. I can't physically stay awake any longer. I'm trying and failing. draik: you presumably still have a 350 GB hole on /dev/hda where the kubuntu used to be, right? Could you create a partition there, format, and transfer your files via [sudo cp -a] there?
[03:56] <drostie> Because you could use that, then reformat /dev/sda1 with a shiny new ext3, then transfer the files the way they're meant to be.
[03:56] <drostie> Will that help? I dunno.
[03:59] <ubuntu__> drostie thank zou anyway for your help
[03:59] <drostie> ubuntu__: I really don't know how you are set up, here. If you can do live cd manipulations, you can back up your data and then reinstall fresh, which will fix your problem (albeit taking an hour for the installer to work.)
[03:59] <ubuntu__> have a good night
[03:59] <ubuntu__> no space to put things to
[03:59] <ubuntu__> Ill try entering here tomorrow asking again
[03:59] <ubuntu__> maybe someone knows
[04:00] <drostie> You really can't free up anything?
[04:00] <ubuntu__> pretty late here as well
[04:00] <drostie> k. 'night room.
[04:00] <ubuntu__> i already free up all possible space in order to install kubuntu. and now i accumulated more stuff
[04:00] <ubuntu__> nighty, drostie
[04:03] <ubuntu__> good nite room
[04:03] <Cybio> nite :-)
[04:04] <KDesk> When I reproduce a video in mplayer or xine or ffplay, the colors are not correct, some days ago it was ok, what could be the problem?
[04:05] <Cybio> i'm not sure if this is OT or not but: where to ask questions about konversation-irc-client and general irc options? ....
[04:07] <KDesk> Ah, I forgot to mention, onl with Dragon player the colors are ok
[04:09] <Luija> ei
[04:10] <Luija> I got a problem
[04:10] <Luija> the Kubuntu OS is not wanting to boot
[04:10] <Luija> its blocked
[04:10] <Luija> DaSkreech
[04:10] <Luija> can u help me?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Blocked by what?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Guess not
[04:11] <Luija> Das?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Blocked by what?
[04:11] <Luija> i dont know
[04:11] <Luija> i just indtalled
[04:12] <Luija> restarted
[04:12] <Luija> then when i wanted to boot
[04:12] <Luija> it stayed in CMD
[04:13] <Luija> i dont know what happened
[04:13] <Luija> let me format again and reinstall
[04:14] <Luija> shit, all was right
[04:14] <Luija> srry for the ****
[04:14] <Luija> all is worng now T_T+
[04:16] <Luija> DaSkreech?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> what happens when it reboots?
[04:17] <Luija> it stays
[04:17] <DaSkreech> And are you booting from CD or hard drive?
[04:17] <Luija> loading
[04:17] <Luija> HD
[04:17] <DaSkreech> It gets past grub and the loading bar?
[04:17] <Luija> loading bar yes
[04:17] <Luija> after loading bar no
[04:17] <Luija> :(
[04:17] <DaSkreech> what happens after loading bar?
[04:17] <Luija> i want my beutiful kubuntu back T_T
[04:17] <Luija> it says: loading
[04:17] <Luija> it never loads
[04:18] <Luija> i waited like 5 m
[04:18] <DaSkreech> Ok ... do you ahve two computers?
[04:18] <Luija> yes
[04:19] <Luija> for?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> So I can talk to you while you try fix kubuntu
[04:19] <Luija> oh
[04:20] <Luija> let me try to
[04:20] <Luija> install again
[04:20] <Luija> boot and then
[04:20] <Luija> if that dont works
[04:20] <Luija> we do that :)
[04:20] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:22] <Cybio> how can i hide my host name / IP in IRC? :-)
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Get a mask
[04:23] <Pici> Cybio: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks and ask in #freenode
[04:23] <DaSkreech> #freenode
[04:23] <Cybio> ok thks
[04:40] <Luija> ei
[04:40] <Luija> i am from kubuntu again
[04:40] <Luija> mefisto, r u here=
[04:40] <Luija> u remember the page that given the commands to make wifi atheros work?
[04:41] <snarkster> ok I dont understand why when i close a plasma and relog its there everytime..
[04:42] <DaSkreech> huh?
[04:42] <snarkster> how do you get rid of a plasma if it continues to come back
[04:42] <DaSkreech> A widget?
[04:43] <snarkster> sorry.. I close a applet but when i log off and log back in its back on the desktop
[04:43] <snarkster> like the clock or weather widget
[04:43] <DaSkreech> Close it then open konsole and type kquitapp plasma && plasma
[04:43] <DaSkreech> SHould kill it for good
[04:43] <snarkster> do i have to do that everytime?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> No I just do it if someplasmoid is stubborn
[04:44] <DaSkreech> haven't had to do it in a while but that should work
[04:44] <snarkster> that would be all of them on my system
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Plasma saves the configs every few minutes So if you remove stuff then logout soon afterwards it may not be saved
[04:45] <DaSkreech> kquitapp forces an instant save
[04:45] <snarkster> oh cool
[04:45] <Luija> ei guys
[04:45] <Luija> can u give me the command to modify the grub?
[04:46] <Luija> i remember it ended in lst
[04:46] <Luija> ???
[04:46] <DaSkreech> !grub
[04:47] <DaSkreech> The file you want is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:47] <Luija> thx :D
[04:48] <snarkster> hmm I got a problem with that command..  it produced an error
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Maybe that's your problem?
[04:50] <snarkster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120445/
[04:50] <snarkster> haha most likely
[04:51] <DaSkreech> hrm
[04:51] <Luija> people, what is the "gedit" of kubuntu?
[04:51] <DaSkreech> That would be an issue
[04:51] <snarkster> ok typing plasma did bring the desktop back
[04:51] <DaSkreech> kate
[04:51] <DaSkreech> snarkster: plasmoid still there?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Luija: and use kdesudo
[04:52] <snarkster> yah they came back
[04:52] <Luija> Kdesudo is gedit here in kubuntu?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Luija: no kate
[04:52] <Luija> ?
[04:52] <snarkster> use kate its much better than gedit
[04:52] <Luija> ahhhh
[04:52] <Luija> ohhh
[04:52] <DaSkreech> snarkster: Yeah the dbus thing is messing with you
[04:52] <Luija> now i remember
[04:53] <Luija> its true, thx snark :)
[04:53] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure how gedit got best text editor of the year
[04:53] <snarkster> ah thats way beyond my skills.. any solution
[04:53] <DaSkreech> or nautilus got best file manager
[04:53] <DaSkreech> snarkster: just need dbus I think
[04:54] <snarkster> what reinstall dbus?
[04:54] <snarkster> or reset debus
[04:54] <snarkster> I know that dbus is some sort of communication thing for for apps in linux
[04:54] <DaSkreech> reset I would guess
[04:54] <DaSkreech> it's IPC
[04:55] <DaSkreech> It allows one random process to send out a message that other random processes can react to if they want
[04:55] <snarkster> ok how does one reset dbus?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> So the network manager can shout out Hey! My process just saw the network disappear
[04:56] <DaSkreech> and other processes can say Hmm Maybe I should stop checking for mail
[04:56] <DaSkreech> snarkster: I have no idea :) let me find out
[04:56] <DaSkreech> !dbus
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Damn you ubottu
[04:57] <snarkster> google is my friend but like i said this is outta my comfort range
[04:57] <Luija> LOL
[04:57] <Luija> !limonada
[04:58] <Luija> ....
[04:59] <DaSkreech> snarkster: how much customization have you done ?
[04:59] <snarkster> hardly any
[04:59] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:00] <snarkster> I do use evolution and pidgin thats it
[05:00] <snarkster> oh and firefox
[05:00] <copondo> Hi everyone.
[05:01] <DaSkreech> Naw none of that matters for this
[05:01] <DaSkreech> !Hi
[05:02] <copondo> Does any of you know if a Facebook plugin for Kopete exists?
[05:02] <copondo> I've Googled around but couldn't seem to find anything.
[05:02] <copondo> I'm IM-ing from Kenya
[05:02] <snarkster> ok i did the command again but this time it did restart the desktop but widgets still there
[05:03] <DaSkreech> plugin?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> to do what?
[05:04] <DaSkreech> snarkster: so you remove widget run command widget comes back ?
[05:04] <snarkster> yup
[05:04] <copondo> Hi, thanks
[05:05] <DaSkreech> copondo: plugin to do what?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> snarkster: hmm that's kinda strange
[05:06] <DaSkreech> You could kill it viciously if want
[05:06] <snarkster> haha
[05:08] <snarkster> where is the widget configuration file? I had heard that I might need to physically remove the containments from the file.
[05:08] <copondo> A plugin for Kopete to allow you to use Facebook chat.
[05:08] <copondo> Just like the ones that let you login to Yahoo and MSN and IRC, Jabber, e.t.c chat services.
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Oh Kopete
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Umm I think I heard there was one for that
[05:09] <snarkster> pidgin has that plugin
[05:09] <DaSkreech> copondo: pidgin can do that though
[05:10] <zaapiel> hey
[05:10] <zaapiel> whats the command to restart x11 server
[05:10] <copondo> I heard so too. I'll try that. But does a Kopete one exist?
[05:10] <zaapiel> keyboard combo?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> zaapiel: Logout and press alt+e
[05:10] <snarkster> ok i just renamed the file. it should recreate the file right?
[05:11] <zaapiel> ty
[05:11] <DaSkreech> copondo: Not one that you have access to is the short answer
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah
[05:11] <snarkster> to restart X ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:11] <DaSkreech> you should really close plasma then rename the file
[05:11] <snarkster> oh
[05:11] <snarkster> to late
[05:11] <copondo> But one is in the works I hope. I'll try the Pidgin one. Thanks
[05:11] <snarkster> so its going to freak out right?
[05:12] <snarkster> copondo: it works pretty good
[05:13] <DaSkreech> snarkster: no
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Just might save the file back before it closes
[05:13] <snarkster> ok they are gone. yah me!
[05:13] <copondo> Question 2: I've an old IBM ThinkPad R40e on which I run Kubuntu with Compiz. It works fine, except for thick black borders that periodically form around windows and menus and linger until I 'erase' them by dragging a window over them. How can I fix this?
[05:13] <snarkster> brb going to grab a smoke
[05:14] <luis__> ehhm people
[05:14] <luis__> one second
[05:14] <DaSkreech> That's compiz
[05:15] <Luija> for some reason
[05:15] <Luija> it dont let me instal lthe nvdia
[05:15] <Luija> accelerated graphics
[05:15] <Luija> 177
[05:15] <Luija> i click in activate, and it doesnt make anything :S
[05:15] <Luija> i have to write a command on konsole for it to work?
[05:16] <Luija> ???
[05:16] <DaSkreech> Maybe
[05:16] <Luija> u know the command?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> not off hand
[05:17] <DaSkreech> !nvidia
[05:17] <copondo> I have the exact same Kubuntu setup on an HP-Compaq nx6310, but it works smoothly, like charm. In fact it's the reason all my colleagues want to migrate to Linux.
[05:18] <DaSkreech> copondo: Different video card I';; bet
[05:19] <DaSkreech> I'll
[05:19] <copondo> Yeah, the ThinkPad is an ati, the HP is an intel. But isn't there a way around the problem?
[05:20] <luchoflautista> #kubuntu-es
[05:20] <Luija> oh, lolm i forgetted i need synaptic
[05:20] <DaSkreech> copondo: I suppose check in #compiz-fusion
[05:20] <luchoflautista> hi
[05:21] <luchoflautista> how use windows live messenger on linux??? i have wine and winetricks
[05:21] <copondo> DaSkreech: Thanks
[05:21] <Luija> lucho: no possible T_T
[05:21] <Luija> still with wine
[05:22] <Luija> and i also think live is god lol
[05:22] <DaSkreech> luchoflautista: try amsn
[05:22] <luchoflautista> no
[05:22] <luchoflautista> i  no want amsn
[05:22] <luchoflautista> i cant use my web cam
[05:23] <DaSkreech> oh
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:23] <DaSkreech> #winehq but I think it's not likely you will get WLM working
[05:24] <luchoflautista> thanks
[05:25] <Luija> oh my god i cant remember the command to download the package for making nvidia 177 active...
[05:25] <Luija> and mefisto help me with that, and now i dont remember lol
[05:25] <snarkster> kopete has msn webcam support
[05:26] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm looking for a program that can strip out the vocals of an MP3 song, leaving just the music. I'm wanting to create a karaoke MP3 from the original.
[05:26] <snarkster> audacity has a filter for that but it doesnt work all that great
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Threre was a plugin for that for Amarok
[05:27] <DaSkreech> It doesn't work that great
[05:27] <snarkster> old amarok
[05:27] <DaSkreech> In fact any automated thing you try to do that wil not work that great
[05:27] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: I'm looking for something that can output an MP3 file. I'm teaching a lesson to my kids on the school computers, and won't have access to Amarok.
[05:27] <Luija> kker, use edubuntu lololol
[05:28] <kkerwin> Luija: Can't install software on the school computers. Locked down tight.
[05:28] <Luija> oh
[05:28] <snarkster> hmm you could try kde for windows..
[05:28] <Luija> well that sucks :S
[05:29] <snarkster> ok do a usbkey install of linux and restart computer with the key in the usb port
[05:29] <kkerwin> snarkster: Too complicated. I'm just looking for something that can output an MP3 file that I can put on my flashdrive and play at school on Windows Media Player.
[05:29] <snarkster> yah it is
[05:29] <DaSkreech> kkerwin: Audacity
[05:29] <kkerwin> DaSkreech: Thank you.
[05:29] <snarkster> and require a rather large usb key.. I use 8gb for mine
[05:29] <sandGorgon> has anybody installed kde over ubuntu-minimal ? I dont want any games, office, etc. just a browser and c++ devkit. what should i be installing ?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> sandGorgon: A browser and a C++ devkit
[05:30] <snarkster> just uninstall openoffice and what have you
[05:32] <sandGorgon> DaSkreech: no.. what I wanted to know was if i install "kubuntu-desktop" , I get all the fat that I dont want.. what should I install to get a bare working kde desktop in ubuntu-minimal ?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> sandGorgon: install the apps that you want
[05:32] <snarkster> kdelibs
[05:32] <DaSkreech> kdevelop and konqueror
[05:32] <DaSkreech> They will pull in what they need
[05:32] <DaSkreech>   you should be good
[05:32] <DaSkreech> might want to install kdm and plasma as well
[05:33] <sandGorgon> DaSkreech: is plasma necessary ?
[05:33] <snarkster> do you know how to get microphones working? LOL
[05:33] <DaSkreech> sandGorgon: No
[05:33] <DaSkreech> I'm just saying you may want it :)
[05:34] <DaSkreech> that or krunner
[05:34] <snarkster> okkkk im out.. thank you very much DaSkreech
[05:34] <DaSkreech> bye
[05:41] <socceroos> Will Kubuntu be shipping with a default KDE4 release for Jaunty?
[05:41] <Luija2> DaSkreech
[05:41] <Luija2> talking from Vista again T_T
[05:41] <Luija2> i mean
[05:41] <Luija2> -___-
[05:42] <Luija2> got a fatal problem
[05:42] <Luija2> when i was booting
[05:42] <Luija2> it cant charge the nvidia
[05:42] <Luija2> so it stays in text mode
[05:42] <DaSkreech> charge?
[05:42] <Luija2> WTF
[05:42] <Luija2> ehhhmm...
[05:42] <Luija2> load is the word
[05:42] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:42] <Luija2> it says FAIL in red
[05:42] <Luija2> its blocked from there
[05:42] <DaSkreech> well then take out the nvidia driver
[05:42] <Luija2> ehhhhh?????????
[05:43] <Luija2> how i can do that?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> did you install the 177 driver ?
[05:43] <Luija2> I tell u I needed a command
[05:43] <Luija2> and i dont found that command
[05:43] <Luija2> i reboot and got the problem
[05:43] <Luija2> because the hardware manager tried to download it
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:44] <Luija2> reboot and... surprise surprise! -_-
[05:44] <DaSkreech> right so you need to get back to the nv driver
[05:44] <Luija2> yep
[05:44] <DaSkreech> can You install irssi in kubuntu so we can talk to you there?
[05:44] <Luija2> i dont wanna damaga seriously my acer for installing a OS...
[05:44] <DaSkreech> It won't
[05:44] <Luija2> it dont load the graphics
[05:45] <Luija2> just text mode
[05:45] <Luija2> all text mode
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Unless you throw it from annoyance
[05:45] <Luija2> annoyance=
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know the computer is fully usable in all text mode
[05:45] <Luija2> ?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> You get frustrated and throw it
[05:45] <Luija2> oh... LOL, i am starting, but the OS is better to do something like that so easily
[05:46] <Luija2> better than windows*
[05:46] <Luija2> so... what i do in kubuntu text mode?
[05:47] <Luija2> ?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install irssi && irssi -c irc.freenode.ent
[05:47] <DaSkreech> .net
[05:47] <Luija2> oh my god i will not be able to remember that command... lol...
[05:47] <DaSkreech> that will log you into IRC
[05:47] <DaSkreech> write it down
[05:47] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get install irssi
[05:47] <DaSkreech> then
[05:47] <Luija2> irssi && irssi irc....
[05:48] <Luija2> okay i am learning it
[05:48] <DaSkreech> irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[05:48] <Luija2> okay
[05:48] <DaSkreech> when you login to it then type /join #kubuntu
[05:48] <DaSkreech> That will bring you here
[05:48] <DaSkreech> And we can talk with you
[05:48] <Luija2> sudo apt-get install irssi && irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[05:48] <Luija2> learned :)
[05:48] <Riesh> Luija2: the && is only to continue with another command when the first ends with success
[05:49] <Luija2> oh
[05:49] <Luija2> ok
[05:49] <Luija2> ok, brb
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Luija2: ok
[05:49] <DaSkreech> rememver
[05:49] <Luija2> sudo app-get install irssi && irssi irc.freenode.net
[05:49] <DaSkreech> type /join #kubuntu when it comes up
[05:49] <DaSkreech> apt
[05:49] <Luija2> ok
[05:49] <Luija2> apt
[05:49] <Luija2> brb
[05:49] <DaSkreech> write it down
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Argh
[05:49] <DaSkreech> So going to foget
[05:49] <DaSkreech> forget
[05:50] <socceroos> lol
[05:50] <socceroos> $5 says he wont.....
[05:50] <Riesh> hehehe
[05:50] <DaSkreech> probably won't but whats the harm of writing it down
[05:50] <socceroos> do i have a $7? Seven over the back there sir?
 lets see what happens
[05:51] <socceroos> InfernoLinux: thats all we can do =D
[05:54] <socceroos> by now, he should have installed irssi and be trying to connect........
[05:54] <socceroos> hehehe
[05:55] <roccity_> hey guys whats going on tonight
[05:55] <luis__> lol i did it
[05:56] <luis__> i am Luija
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Yay!!
[05:56] <luis__> okay
[05:56] <luis__> i am in irssi
[05:56] <luis__> now?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> ok this is IRC
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Yes
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Listen to me carefully
[05:56] <luis__> ok
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Don't do anything till I tell you
[05:56] <luis__> ok
[05:56] <DaSkreech> You have multiple terminal
[05:56] <DaSkreech> You cna jump between then
[05:57] <luis__> aja
[05:57] <DaSkreech> you can press alt+Ctrl+F1
[05:57] <DaSkreech> To get to TTY 1
[05:57] <luis__> now?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+F2 for TTY2
[05:57] <DaSkreech> no
[05:57] <luis__> ok
[05:58] <DaSkreech> The GUI is on Alt+CtrlF7
[05:58] <luis__> gui?
[05:58] <Riesh> Graphical User Interface (GUI)
[05:58] <DaSkreech> So try press alt+ctrl+F2 then alt+Ctrl+F1 to get back here
[05:58] <luis__> sweet
[05:58] <DaSkreech> F2 should have a login screen
[05:59] <luis__> sweet
[05:59] <luis__> yes it have
[05:59] <luis__> a login screen
[05:59] <luis__> done
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Ok Login there You can swap back and forth between the two to talk to us and type in commands
[05:59] <luis__> very nice
[05:59] <InfernoLinux> I would really love to know how to make the text on the login screen larger. It is nothing but a blur on this 52" screen
[05:59] <DaSkreech> just out of interest what does sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start do ?
[05:59] <luis__> so i have to go to ctrl alt f7?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> InfernoLinux: You can
[06:00] <DaSkreech> luis__: There is probably nothing on it right now
[06:00] <luis__> nothing lol
[06:00] <luis__> just a "g" lol
[06:00] <kushal> Riddell, ping
[06:00] <luis__> ok so
[06:01] <luis__> to what ctrl alt f i have to go?
[06:02] <luis__> ?
[06:02] <Riesh> 1 for chat and 2 for typing commands
[06:02] <luis__> ok
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:02] <DaSkreech>  type in sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Tell me what it does
[06:04] <luis__> command not found :S
[06:04] <luis__> and y type it correctyl
[06:04] <luis__> I*
[06:04] <DaSkreech> sudo ?
[06:04] <luis__> yes
[06:05] <DaSkreech> then /etc/init.d/kdm<space> start ?
[06:05] <luis__> yes
[06:05] <luis__> oh
[06:05] <luis__> without sudo?
[06:05] <Riesh> with sudo
[06:05] <luis__> nop
[06:05] <luis__> nothing
[06:06] <luis__> it would be better if I reinstall kubuntu? these is starting to become annoying...
[06:07] <Riesh> re-installing when something goes wrong is more the MS phylosophy
[06:07] <luis__> there is not a quick way to solve the graphic problem in kubuntu?
[06:07] <luis__> lol riesh...
[06:07] <DaSkreech> yeah I just wanted o know what would happen if you tried to start the GUI
[06:07] <luis__> in text mode* not kubuntu
[06:07] <luis__> okay
[06:07] <luis__> so
[06:07] <luis__> now
[06:07] <luis__> what commands?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Lemme see
[06:08] <DaSkreech> !nvidia
[06:08] <luis__> there is not a way to copy paste the commands of F1 to F2?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> maybe
[06:09] <luis__> ok, w/e
[06:09] <luis__> lets continue
[06:10] <DaSkreech> luis__: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[06:11] <luis__> it says it is already in his more recent version 0_0
[06:11] <Riesh> luis__: you can try to find out what is wrong by doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ... maybe the info there will give you a hint
[06:11] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:12] <InfernoLinux> ahhh kitty go away you dont have an anit-static wristband
[06:12] <DaSkreech> oh luis__ as a help if you want to complete the name of a file or path you an use tab
[06:12] <DaSkreech> so cat /va<tab>log/Xo<tab>
[06:12] <luis__> ok
[06:13] <DaSkreech> luis__: If it won't complete press tab twice and it will tell you what you can do from there
[06:13] <luis__> ehhmm riesh
[06:13] <luis__> it says command not found
[06:13] <Riesh> and maybe you also would like to install gpm ... (sudo apt-get install gpm) to get your mouse woking in text mode ... handy for compying error messages
[06:14] <luis__> okay, continue DaSkreech
[06:14] <Riesh> cat <space> .........
[06:14] <luis__> lol
[06:14] <DaSkreech> luis__: which didn't work?
[06:14] <luis__> not working also
[06:15] <luis__> i dont understand what u mean with that of the tab
[06:15] <Riesh> the tab above the caps lock
[06:15] <Riesh> key
[06:15] <luis__> sudo apt-get install gpm
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:15] <luis__> upps
[06:15] <DaSkreech> the tab key
[06:15] <luis__> lol i know, i am not a suck ignorant
[06:15] <luis__> but
[06:15] <luis__> i dont understand for what is the tab
[06:16] <luis__> right now
[06:16] <DaSkreech> it auto completes things
[06:16] <Riesh> the shell (bash) ahs auto completion
[06:16] <DaSkreech> so you don't have to type out everything
[06:16] <Riesh> has
[06:16] <DaSkreech> plus if you get stuck somewhere tab twice will tell you what is possible
[06:16] <luis__> ok
[06:16] <luis__> lets proceed
[06:17] <luis__> now, what commands?
[06:17] <luis__> tell me if u get block in one point, so I reinstall lolololol
[06:17] <DaSkreech> like if you type less /var/log/Xo<tab><tab> it will tell you all the files that start with Xo
[06:17] <luis__> thx for the mouse aplication riesh :)
[06:17] <Riesh> np
[06:17] <DaSkreech> luis__: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:17] <DaSkreech> tell me if there is a line inthere that says driver
[06:18] <DaSkreech> or Driver
[06:18] <luis__> wait
[06:18] <luis__> i try to use the mouse to copy
[06:18] <luis__> but
[06:18] <luis__> it only lets me paste it here
[06:18] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:18] <luis__> in F1
[06:18] <luis__> not F2
[06:18] <DaSkreech> middle click in F2 doesn't work?
[06:19] <luis__> i dont have middle click, this is a touch pad lol
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Ah :-)
[06:20] <Riesh> you can press both left and right to emulate a middle click
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Yeah but w/e
[06:20] <DaSkreech> did you get the sudo nano to open ?
[06:20] <Guest31644> Hi
[06:21] <luis__> yes
[06:21] <luis__> is open
[06:21] <luis__> a bunch of text
[06:22] <luis__> this is taking more than what i think....
[06:22] <Riesh> :-) ... be patient ... people try to help you
[06:22] <DaSkreech> is there a line that says Driver ?
[06:23] <luis__> riesh
[06:23] <luis__> i am not hurrying no one
[06:23] <luis__> is than i am a little tired :)
[06:23] <Riesh> in the section ...... "Section "Device" "
[06:23] <luis__> there is not a section device...
[06:25] <DaSkreech> !xfix
[06:25] <DaSkreech> !fix res
[06:25] <luis__> lol
[06:25] <luis__> lol
[06:25] <DaSkreech> !fixres
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Ah there we go
[06:25] <Riesh> i now have xorg.conf open and see "Section "Screen"" ... a "Section "Module" " and a "Section "Device" "
[06:26] <luis__> i have to write that command DaSkreech?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> luis__: Do you have section "Device" in the file you opened
[06:27] <luis__> nop
[06:28] <DaSkreech> What is in it?
[06:28] <luis__> nothing
[06:28] <luis__> just a explanation
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Wrong file
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Oh?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> What does it say at the top?
[06:28] <luis__> a explanation than if I modifify this file
[06:28] <luis__> i exit
[06:28] <luis__> already
[06:28] <DaSkreech> press up to get back your last command
[06:29] <DaSkreech> You can reopen it easily
[06:29] <luis__> xorg.conf
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:29] <luis__> ok
[06:29] <luis__> but there is not a section called "device"
[06:29] <Riesh> hehehe
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Do you see a part that says Section "Device" ?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Close the file
[06:30] <luis__> ok..
[06:30] <DaSkreech>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:30] <DaSkreech> That should remake that file
[06:30] <Riesh> if i may ask .... why use the "-phigh"
[06:31] <luis__> done
[06:31] <luis__> now?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> It makes it not ask question
[06:31] <Riesh> ah ... ok ok
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Otherwise it asks you for each thing it's writing what you want to do
[06:32] <DaSkreech> luis__: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[06:33] <luis__> kdm already running
[06:33] <DaSkreech> press up and change start to restart
[06:33] <Riesh> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:34] <DaSkreech> hi Luija
[06:35] <Luija> DUDE!!! if i would be gay, i would kiss u!!! but because i am not gay, i can only say u: thx x1000!!!!!!!!! LOL
[06:35] <Luija> seriously, thx a lot
[06:35] <DaSkreech> It's really pretty hard to break Linux to the point where you can't fix it
[06:35] <Luija> lol
[06:36] <DaSkreech> at your level I wouldnt expect you to fix this
[06:36] <Luija> lol never
[06:36] <Luija> but
[06:36] <Luija> then how i can safely
[06:36] <DaSkreech> But if you aren't afraid of the command line yo ucan fix pretty much anything
[06:36] <Luija> activate the nvidia without crashing?
[06:36] <Luija> u know the command?
[06:36] <DaSkreech> not off the top of my head
[06:36] <DaSkreech>  hold on I have to walk my dogs
[06:36] <Luija> darn... is ok, i only hoped than mefisto was here...
[06:36] <Luija> oh
[06:37] <Luija> ok
[06:37] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:37] <DaSkreech> claydoh: Ping
[06:43] <SJrX> What is the base package name that I need to install for KDE 4.2?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> kubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <DaSkreech> hi luis__
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Broke something ?
[06:48] <luis__> ei
[06:48] <luis__> no
[06:48] <luis__> now i am now as broking guys? lol wtf
[06:49] <luis__> u were the guy who nicely give me the commands for konsole
[06:49] <SJrX> No KDE 4.2, not kubuntu. I seem to be missing things in my K menu, etc.
[06:49] <SJrX> I want to make sure that kde 4.2 is fully installed
[06:49] <luis__> to get java and flash
[06:49] <luis__> can u get them again pls?
[06:49] <luis__> and thx for all ur help :)
[06:50] <luis__> SjrX, i tried to install it, and then K menu and some spaces where missing
[06:50] <luis__> i need to reinstall Kubuntu to get 4.1 :S
[06:50] <luis__> u have the commands DaSkreech?
[06:50] <Riesh> luis__: you always can do a search for these with "apt-cache search package-name"
[06:51] <luis__> i dont understand u
[06:51] <Riesh> and then use apt-get install package-name
[06:51] <Riesh> in console you can type "apt-cache search java"
[06:51] <Riesh> or "apt-cache search flash"
[06:52] <luis__> got it :)
[06:52] <luis__> and i found what i wanted :D
[06:52] <Riesh> then you see a lot of packages
[06:53] <Riesh> like flashplugin-nonfree
[06:53] <luis__> yes a lot
[06:53] <Riesh> so you can do "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[06:53] <luis__> but i see the nonfree :)
[06:53] <luis__> sweet, thx
[06:54] <Riesh> "apt-cache search java" give another bunch of package names
[06:54] <luis__> but DaSkreech give me one specific command
[06:54] <luis__> than, in his words
[06:54] <luis__> installed "rubbish things"
[06:55] <luis__> but installed the necessary, what would be that?
[06:55] <Riesh> mmm don't know what he said
[06:55] <luis__> oh
[06:55] <luis__> ok
[06:56] <luis__> but in java case for firefox
[06:56] <luis__> what would be the correct?
[06:56] <luis__> because search java throw a bunch
[06:56] <Riesh> for java you can do "apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre"
[06:57] <luis__> but how u can know the specific command for everything lol
[06:57] <Riesh> apt-cache --help :-)
[06:58] <Riesh> search - Search the package list for a regex pattern
[06:58] <luis__> oh and, synaptics or adept r not the same?
[06:58] <luis__> but adept, i searched firefox, and i could find the browser :S
[06:58] <luis__> could not*
[06:58] <Riesh> they are graphical tools for doing the same
[06:59] <Riesh> but i found out that soemtimes i do not find what i want in Adept
[06:59] <luis__> and synaptic?
[06:59] <Riesh> synaptics is as far as i know a Gnome program ....
[07:00] <luis__> lol i got synaptic here
[07:00] <Riesh> OK ... you can use that too ... :-)
[07:00] <Riesh> but it's (i think) still handy to know the commands for on the console
[07:01] <luis__> oh
[07:01] <luis__> ok
[07:01] <SJrX> ARGH!
[07:02] <luis__> what
[07:02] <SJrX> I just removed the nvidia driver from my system, and now I can't use my external LCD screen on my laptop
[07:04] <DaSkreech> SJrX: If you have KDE 4.2 and Kubuntu-desktop installed you are probably ok
[07:04] <DaSkreech> luis__: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:05] <luis__> that!
[07:05] <luis__> thx daSkreech
[07:05] <luis__> but how u can find that of kubuntu command?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> SJrX: Oh not about the nvidia think
[07:06] <DaSkreech> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:06] <luis__> but, apart from java, what it installs?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> luis__: It's not a command it's package you install
[07:06] <SJrX> I don't seem to be able to use my secondary display without using the nvidia drivers which suck
[07:06] <DaSkreech> luis__: Mp3 divx flash fonts all sorts of things
[07:06] <luis__> oh
[07:06] <luis__> ok
[07:07] <DaSkreech> SJrX: hopefully open source drivers wil cover that soon. but I guess install the nvidia drivers till then
[07:07] <SJrX> The nvidia drivers make KDE unusuable with all the desktop corruption
[07:08] <DaSkreech> You mean the visual rubbish in the windows?
[07:09] <SJrX> yeah it goes black, and then multi-colored everywhere
[07:09] <SJrX> windows, the K menu, the task bar
[07:11] <DaSkreech> SJrX:  http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/?p=211
[07:13] <SJrX> DaSkreech you'll earn the biggest, wettest kiss, if this works
[07:13] <DaSkreech> I seem to get kisses a lot tonight
[07:21] <noren> can someone please tell me how to fix kde multimedia library
[07:22] <DaSkreech> What is KDE multimedia library?
[07:24] <noren> i dont know dis is what i get when i log in
[07:28] <DaSkreech> What do you get?
[07:32] <ytoox> hello
[07:32] <ytoox> I got a question but it's about BEos
[07:32] <DaSkreech> !hi
[07:32] <ytoox> can anyone give me a hand?
[07:33] <bazhang> BeOS?
[07:33] <bazhang> in #kubuntu?
[07:34] <ytoox> no, I am just trying to see if anyone has tried to emulate this on kubuntu and virtualbox
[07:34] <bazhang> sure you dont mean jeOS?
[07:34] <ytoox> but I can't find a BEOS channel
[07:34] <ytoox> nop
[07:34] <ytoox> BEOS
[07:34] <DaSkreech> ytoox: What about it?
[07:34] <ytoox> I have tried the other ones, Jeos, Haiku, Zeta os
[07:34] <ytoox> well, I downloaded the files and when unpacked
[07:34] <bazhang> did you install all the relevant vbox packages?
[07:34] <ytoox> it has floppy.img and a beos.iso image
[07:35] <ytoox> both supposed to be on a burned cd
[07:35] <ytoox> yeah
[07:35] <ytoox> i got htat
[07:35] <ytoox> that
[07:35] <bazhang> this is vbox-ose or the one from vbox site
[07:35] <ytoox> but when I load the .cue files on k3b it does not work
[07:35] <ytoox> I think I got it from the site
[07:35] <bazhang> should just load the iso file
[07:35] <ytoox> yeah
[07:35] <ytoox> and it does
[07:36] <bazhang> what's the link
[07:36] <ytoox> but it also needs that floppy.img file to load
[07:36] <bazhang> beos.org?
[07:36] <ytoox> but the whole process stops because of a kernel panic
[07:36] <ytoox> hold on
[07:37] <ytoox> bebits.com
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Palm owns beos Thre is no BeOS.org binaries that are legal
[07:37] <bazhang> oops
[07:38] <ytoox> http://www.bebits.com/app/3148
[07:39] <Guest37959> anyone know why knotify would be crashing with kopete on every message received - with kde 4.2?
[07:40] <bazhang> seems like you dont need to use vbox for that
[07:40] <ytoox> mmm
[07:41] <ytoox> then?
[07:41] <bazhang> at least the link from distrowatch.com one
[07:42] <bazhang> though it says it wont run on system with more than 1GB of ram
[07:43] <ytoox> aha
[07:43] <bazhang> you may wish to visit the haiku channel as I think this is getting offtopic here :)
[07:43] <ytoox> that's why I specify 51 of memory
[07:43] <ytoox> is there one?
[07:44] <bazhang> without vbox, no real connection to kubuntu :)
[07:44] <bazhang> yep; #haiku
[07:45] <ytoox> k
[07:51] <SJrX> Hmmmm DaSkreech so far so good no weirdness
[07:51] <SJrX> I spoke too soon
[07:51] <SJrX> I don't know what it is
[07:51] <SJrX> maybe WINE
[07:52] <SJrX> You know DaSkreech lol, I think it's actually wINE
[08:09] <zeltak> hi guys
[08:09] <zeltak> anyone care to help me a sec with learning something simple on the command line?
[08:09] <SJr> what do you want to know
[08:09] <SJr> how to kill a man with your bare hands
[08:09] <zeltak> thx SJr :)
[08:11] <zeltak> im trying to build a simple (i mean dead simple script since im a newbee :) to del all jpg, txt and info from all movie folders
[08:11] <zeltak> so far i came up with this
[08:11] <zeltak> find /media/movt/ -name *.nfo -exec ls '{}' ';'
[08:11] <zeltak> i know i have to change the ls to rm etc..
[08:11] <zeltak> but how to i pick multiple file types
[08:12] <SJr> Regular expressions or multiple lines :)
[08:12] <SJr> I just use multiple lines :)
[08:13] <SJr> I have something very similiar except it sets all my illegally downloaded movies to immutable so they can't be corrupted
[08:13] <zeltak> k :) where can one find info on reg expressions (keep in mind i a newbee)
[08:13] <zeltak> SJr: LOL nice
[08:14] <SJr> I dunno both as an admin, and a software developer I have dodged learning regular expressions all the time
[08:14] <SJr> just use multiple lines
[08:15] <zeltak> can you explain a bit about multiple lines..you mean run the command twice
[08:21] <SJr> zeltak,  yes and put it in a shell script
[08:21] <zeltak> k cool
[08:21] <zeltak> thx SJr
[08:35] <X9nLinux9> Anybody here running anything newer than Edgy on a non-intel Mac?
[08:36] <sony> guys i had a question hows simply mepis compared to kubuntu
[08:38] <X9nLinux9> Anybody here running anything newer than Edgy on a non-intel Mac?
[08:40] <bazhang> X9nLinux9, you looking for a more recent version?
[08:41] <X9nLinux9> yeah... but it has to be good for an old G4
[08:41] <bazhang> what version? hardy?
[08:41] <X9nLinux9> yeah if it would work
[08:42] <bazhang> only one way to find out :)
[08:42] <math_> hello
[08:42] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/hardy/release/
[08:43] <bazhang> X9nLinux9, ^^
[08:43] <X9nLinux9> looked at the page... "http://lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu-releases/" ...and it doesn't seem to show that there is one for my machine
[08:43] <X9nLinux9> ok... lemmee go look there too
[08:44] <bazhang> they give a pretty clear description on which machines will support that
[08:44] <pteague> i'm having issues getting kwallet to load when i login... even though i have kde set up to restore the previous session & i had kwallet running prior to logging out...  plus it seems that sometimes i can get programs to store their username/password in it, but none of them seem to be able to get them out (i'm wondering if possibly there was some sort of problem in the storing of it to disk?)
[08:44] <math_> i  need help, (sorry my inglish) , i try compile a "hello world" aplication  using Kdeveloper 3.5.3, and get the error "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail."
[08:49] <X9nLinux9> bazhang, yeah, it does appear that that one is described right.  Thanks.  Guess I was looking at a less complete source... thinking they might not do a distro for older / non intel macs any more
[08:53] <doktoreas> is there any flickr uploader for kde4 ?
[08:56] <bazhang> !info plasmoid-flickr
[08:56] <bazhang> !info kflickr
[08:57] <Riesh> !info kphotobymail
[08:57] <doktoreas> wow thx :D
[08:57] <doktoreas> kflickr is no working
[08:57] <bazhang> apt-cache search flickr
[08:57] <doktoreas> not
[08:57] <bazhang> or on irc /msg ubottu find flickr
[08:58] <doktoreas> thx for the help bazhang
[08:58] <bazhang> np
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> is there a kubuntu server install iso?
[08:59] <bazhang> not afaik
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> ok cool, i can deal, just curious
[08:59] <bazhang> the server being cli and all would not make much sense
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> thanks :)
[08:59] <doktoreas> bazhang: the flickr plasmoid wanna downgrade kbase-workspace from 4.2 to 4.1
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: isnt the kernel more oriented to background processes?
[09:00] <bazhang> doktoreas, best wait for jaunty then
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: is the server kernel any different?
[09:00] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, the server kernel? not that I know of
[09:00] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, sure it is
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: in what way/s
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> please
[09:01] <bazhang> allows for more than 4gb ootb
[09:01] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, you can run it as desktop if you want, not sure why though
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: i'm gonna be running a headless system which will be running ktorrent and amarok and all accessed via http
[09:02] <pteague> there is ubuntu-server...  is it that you want to install a server with a gui or... ?
[09:03] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, why not go for rtorrent then?
[09:03] <pteague> i'd use rtorrent instead
[09:03] <bazhang> !info rtorrent
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> i'm comfortable with ktorrent and I figured it was already running amarok so i may as well stick with it
[09:03] <bazhang> cool
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> as both need x and qt libs
[09:03] <pteague> & isn't there something like icecast or some such for streaming?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> pteague: its not for streaming, its for controlling what the player playes with XUL remote which works great with my g1 phone
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> pteague: its kinda like iphone + itunes but i despise apple
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> intensely
[09:04] <bazhang> icecast2 and icecast-server
[09:05] <pteague> i wasn't sure i would like rtorrent, but it kicks butt on my fileserver & means i don't need to install/run a gui
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: so I can connect to some http interface and the audio I pick will play out of my servers sound card and not the device accessing it?
[09:05] <bazhang> kmandla has some great tutorials on getting using rtorrent
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: with icecast?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> thats what i need, so its kinda like an http juke box
[09:06] <bazhang> icecast2 is a streaming media server
[09:07] <bazhang> not sure about the http part; would this be from another computer?
[09:07] <pteague> anybody know where kwallet stores it's config info for user ?
[09:07] <bazhang> or installing gui on ubuntu-server
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: not what i'm after, its kinda like sshing to a server then running mplayer to plpay the music, the audio comes out of the server, not down the line to the accessing systems soundcard
[09:08] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, remote location? or in the same local area network
[09:08] <pteague> are you wanting a web interface to play audio out of the server's sound card?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> pteague: exactly, amarok does this with XUL remote
[09:08] <bazhang> !info mediatomb
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> pteague: it runs on port 8888 by default
[09:09] <bazhang> heh surprised to see ActionParsnip asking instead of answering
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: like i always say, no one knows everything :)
[09:10] <bazhang> :)
[09:10] <pteague> ah, now mediatomb sounds cool
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> yeah i'll look into that
[09:11] <bazhang> !info mpd
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> yea i tried mpd, its a PITA
[09:11] <bazhang> k
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> thats xul remote: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/t/14216/1180274138
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> its funny if my gf is on the system checking assbook or whatever and I blast on some iniquity
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> or use espeak via ssh
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> thanks for the suggestions though :)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> what else does the server install offer? I've never touched it really but it's always been there
[09:15] <pteague> ubuntu-server? it has access to all the same packages as any other *buntu
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> so why does it exist except the +4Gb ram feature or is that it?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> and no x server by default
[09:17] <pteague> big memory kernel option apparently only works on certain hardware... i'm not sure if that's in the server or not... i know all the 64bit works at 4+gb ram easy
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> well yeah, but i dont know of any other advantages, are there any more?
[09:17] <pteague> it's just another default install option...  there's ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, mythbuntu, ubuntu-server, blah blah :)
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> pteague: i know that much but what other features does the server give besides no X and the ram feature?
[09:18] <pteague> it looks like jeos isn't available separately anymore... at least with intrepid ubuntu-server you just need to change the install mode & tada it's jeos
[09:20] <pteague> may have some other/different defaults to installed/available drivers?  considering raid cards, etc...  otherwise only things i'm aware of is what you stated (still not sure on the ram) & intrepid's jeos install
[09:20] <pteague> might check #ubuntu-server & see if anybody there knows
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> ok thats cool
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> i'll stick to my minimal cd :)
[09:21] <pteague> & jeos, if you're not familiar with it, is a really minimal install aimed at virtual machines
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> i use fluxbox
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> love kde, hate kwin
[09:23] <pteague> there may also be a difference in how processes are handled... i don't recall the details of that offhand though
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> well the sysytems only use will be samba, ssh, amarok/mediatomb and ktorrent/rtorrent
[09:26] <pteague> & considering my revamp on my hardware & re-purposing my old boxes campaign here at home... i'm thinking most of my stuff will be going to 64bit *buntu... currently only my desktop is, most of my hardware for other boxes already is (or will be after this latest update/re-purpose)
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> pteague: i only have 1 64bit cpu, most of the rest dont even reach 1Ghz
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> gotta love gentoo
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> well if server gives me nothing i'll avoid but i'm gonna apt-build stuff in :D, thats fun
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> are the forums down?
[09:31] <pteague> i got an atom 330 to upgrade my mythtv front end... the atom 230 in the current front end is going in my fileserver... the 32bit d201gly mini-itx is going to replace somebody else's old ATX board that i'm not sure what to do with at this point
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> mini-itx is awesome
[09:32] <pteague> yep, i'm going that way with most of my stuff from now on considering how cheap they've gotten... & the atom's are 64bit :)
[09:33] <pteague> only 2 boxes i think that won't have mini-itx are my desktop & my mythtv back end - i need more pci slots in that back end than the mini-itx comes with :(
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> pteague: can you get pci daughterboards these days?
[09:35] <pteague> i believe so, but i think putting in a 4port SATA controller & a dual-tuner would be pushing a daughterboard
[09:35] <pteague> plus i'm thinking i'm going to replace the dual-tuner with 2x hd tuners
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> pteague: like a daughterboard to get more pci slots
[09:36] <pteague> the 2nd tuner in the hauppauge pvr-500 is giving me issues... not sure if it's the driver or not
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> like back in the day :)
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> welll, back in the day it was to actually get expansion slots
[09:36] <pteague> hehe, yeah, but i think a 4port SATA controller is pushing the pci bus isn't it?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> pteague: true, bu you said you were low on pci slots, if you can find a pci daughteroard you should be able to get more
[09:37] <pteague> my ibm ps/2 uses an isa daughter board ;)
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> like that, but for new systems
[09:40] <pteague> wouldn't a daughter board increase the load on the pci slot ? or is my thinking about how those work wrong?
[09:40] <gringz> ciao
[09:40] <bazhang> !it
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> pteague: yes the pci slot will be shared between however many devices, but you will get more pci slots
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> pteague: you could try to find firewire / usb devices
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> gaahhh stupid sql upgrades :(
[09:47] <pteague> somebody pointed out a network accessible tuner a while back which i might use, but not sure how that may affect lag that already exists between the backend & frontend
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> depends on how much bandwidth it uses, on a 1000Mbps line you should be fine
[09:47] <pteague> there a new update to mysql or postgresql?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> pteague: one of my sql team is upgrading sql at my work and rebooting boxes and im getting alerts galore
[09:49] <pteague> unfortunately i'm still on a mixed network... would currently need a yet another pci slot for a gigabit lan connector for backend & i'm not sure if the network tuner had gigabit or not
[09:49] <pteague> oh, lol... i'm hoping they tested & backed up first?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> pteague: i always use it, my fileserver gets a hammering without a 100Mbps line
[09:57] <pteague> i'm still trying to figure out an issue with my fileserver... normally it's just fine, but on rare occasion when sending large amounts of data (i.e. doing an rsync transferring several gig) it seems the network drops... ifconfig still shows the ethernet up, but nothing goes in or out... simply running ifdown eth0 & then ifup eth0 fixes the issue
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> pteague: what system are you using to distribute the folder you are rsyncing to?
[09:57] <pteague> or at least fixes it sometimes... i've gotten to where i run `/etc/init.d/networking restart && ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0`
[09:58] <pteague> ssh ...  also had the issue over samba & nfs
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> in smb.conf did you have: socket options = TCP_NODELAY
[09:59] <pteague> like when i moved all the mp3s that had recently been downloaded in my windows vm caused the issue last time
[09:59] <pteague> yep
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> pteague: funily enough, I just got the update for libqt4-sql-mysql hehe
[10:00] <bdizzle> hey
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> !hi | bdizzle
[10:01] <bdizzle> I was wondering if there is a way to map the "windows" key on my keyboard to launch the k-menu on K 8.10 ?
[10:03] <pteague> crap, just realized how late it is & i actually need to wake up tomorrow
[10:03] <bdizzle> lol
[10:03] <bdizzle> eh, just stay up the day and welcome in the morning
[10:05] <pteague> i can still get in 8 hours of sleep i think, but i should have gone to bed earlier so i could have gotten some stuff done before the meeting
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bdizzle: in linux its called the super key
[10:07] <bdizzle> I know
[10:07] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[10:07] <bdizzle> see, its morning in about ... 3 hours for me
[10:07] <bdizzle> so its like, hell, I'll just stay up
[10:07] <pteague> it's 4am here
[10:08] <bdizzle> 5 AM here
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> bdizzle: east coast rider
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> bdizzle: 10am here
[10:08] <bdizzle> yup
[10:08] <bdizzle> oh, you across the pond?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> bdizzle: i look after servers in florida from uk, so Im used to a 5hr difference
[10:09] <pteague> i've been trying to get back to going to bed earlier... i've noticed that if i get to bed before midnight i tend to wake up earlier & i feel more rested than i do when i get to bed at 4am & sleep for 12 hours >.>
[10:09] <bdizzle> this is true, and I had meant to go to sleep last night, just got into a convo and it lasted a few hours
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | bdizzle
[10:10] <pteague> oh, media keys... i'll have to remember that
[10:11] <pteague> !shortcut > pteague
[10:11] <bdizzle> thanks
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> bdizzle: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/use-the-windows-key-for-the-start-menu-in-ubuntu-linux/
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> bdizzle: not sure in kde as i dont use kwin but the gnome thing may help
[10:13] <pteague> my issue is i'd like to be able to use the "windows" key both to open the menu & as a modifier key (like in windows), but i've never been able to get it to do that... been a couple years since i tried though
[10:14] <pteague> then again considering i always have a terminal open i'm not sure win+r is as useful anymore
[10:14] <bdizzle> yeah, I can't even find where the K-menu modifer is on the keyboard shortcut area
[10:17] <pteague> look for ctrl+escape ... i believe that's the normal default
[10:23] <MementoMori> hi
[10:24] <bazhang> hi
[10:24] <MementoMori> i've installed okular-extra-backends but i can't  open chm files via okular
[10:24] <MementoMori> it seems like chm is not a valid plugin
[10:24] <MementoMori> any hint?
[10:27] <bazhang> !info kchmviewer
[10:29] <MementoMori> bazhang: i've already installed kchmviewer but i'd prefer to use okular
[10:29] <bazhang> MementoMori, not sure then; that works here (kchmviewer)
[10:30] <bazhang> MementoMori, there are a number of gnome ones as well
[10:30] <MementoMori> try installing okular-extra-backends and using okular
[10:30] <MementoMori> tell me if it works for you
[10:30] <MementoMori> !info okular-extra-backends
[10:34] <MementoMori> bazhang: have you tried?
[10:35] <The_ManU_212> hi, i use hardy heron since the last updated my kded is on 100% cpu suage and i have to kill it everytime i want to work, and i dont know where my kdewallet passwords are, i cant open it ? someone can help?
[10:35] <MementoMori> yes
[10:35] <MementoMori> not so hard
[10:36] <MementoMori> The_ManU_212: gimme only a couple of minutes
[10:36] <The_ManU_212> MementoMori: thx
[10:37] <MementoMori> .kde/share/config/kwalletrc
[10:37] <MementoMori> .kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl
[10:38] <MementoMori> those are the 2 only files you need
[10:38] <MementoMori> the rc one is the configuration part
[10:38] <MementoMori> kwl is where pass are actually stores
[10:38] <MementoMori> stored
[10:40] <MementoMori> you need a running kwalletmanager to open the kwl and to export it in the format you want (i.e. xml)
[10:40] <MementoMori> The_ManU_212: ok?
[10:42] <The_ManU_212> MementoMori: the thing is, that my kubuntu doenst work allright because of thus kded which i have to kill everytime if i want to work with a lame pc like in the early 90ies, its since one of the last security updates, and i dont wnat to export something, just use kdewallet as everytime, but when i kill kded and open kdewalletmanager i cnat open anything :/
[10:43] <The_ManU_212> MementoMori: i even cant send emails with thudnerbird, i think alld epends on dekwallet
[10:45] <MementoMori> The_ManU_212: I'm not sure thunderbird uses kdewallet as password backend
[10:45] <The_ManU_212> MementoMori: ok itw as another issue, but dont you know this kded bug and that dkewallet dosnt find any wallet?
[10:48] <MementoMori> uh?
[10:53] <Texas> i tried to open my adept manager and it says the packaging system data base is bein used by another program
[10:54] <Texas> you here
[10:54] <Texas> anybody
[10:54] <MementoMori> Texas: close the other progam
[10:54] <Texas> what else could be using it
[10:55] <Texas> i very new to all this
[10:56] <MementoMori> try closing all program you've opened and restart adept
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Texas: do you have synaptic open / are you installing via apt?
[10:56] <Texas> ive restarded my computer and nothing
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Texas: make sure you have no package apps open as they will hold the packages so no other app can access them
[10:57] <Texas> im very very new lol
[10:57] <MementoMori> ActionParsnip: nice solution ;)
[10:58] <kronicKoH> Hey guys
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> MementoMori: it was nothing, i'd like to thank god, my mum and dad and my sponsors
[10:58] <Texas> ok so i open a temrinal and i coppy and paste what
[10:58] <The_ManU_212> MementoMori: dont you know about this kded bug?
[11:11] <kronicKoH> hmm the convo in here is abundant
[11:30] <kronicKoH> STOP JOINING ND LEAVING DAMN
[11:34] <vbgunz> anyone have a clue how to reset khotkey entries in keyboard shortcuts?
[11:37] <snake99> hello ladies and gentlemen
[11:38] <snake99> bye ladies and gentlemen
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:00] <Duesentrieb> hi all. since my last update, i no longer see the "supsend" or "hibernate" options anywhere. this is *very* annoying, i don't want to have to repboot all the time.
[12:00] <Duesentrieb> any clue why this would happen or how to fix it?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: let me websearch
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-May/145254.html
[12:04] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: thanks. uh... xserver-xgl? how's that related? and why did it only happen now after updating two days ago?... odd.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: are you using nvidia vga?
[12:04] <Duesentrieb> yes.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: then its not needed, maybe it was part of a metapackage
[12:05] <Duesentrieb> what is not needed, exactly?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb:  I removed xserver-xgl and the "suspend" and "hibernate" buttons re-appeared.
[12:06] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: i don't have that installed.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: so i'd imagine removing the package xserver-xgl
[12:06] <Duesentrieb> i have no package matchgin *cxgl* at all.
[12:06] <Duesentrieb> err, *xgl*
[12:06] <StR|Sangreal> hello
[12:06] <StR|Sangreal> 2 questions:
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: are you running compiz?
[12:07] <Duesentrieb> no. but it's installed.
[12:07] <Duesentrieb> was going to play with it.
[12:07] <StR|Sangreal> 1. i have a non critical error on boot, it delays the boot time and so... where can i find some logs that willll tell whats going on?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: dmesg | less
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: let me search more
[12:09] <StR|Sangreal> ok, executed, sth is running
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: its one of your kernel / system logs
[12:09] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: fwiw, i have powerdevil installed (worked nicely until now) and powernowd
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: could try reinstalling those
[12:10] <AndrewMohawk> Hi, i have an application that i use on a kubuntu server and i would like to know if someone could please link me to a tutorial on how i could create my own rep so that i can update the app (scripts will change as well as config files, new + deleting etc) myself simply by doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: tbh, i dont use hibernate / suspend as they are a PITA to get nice
[12:10] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip: pls i cant see anything suspicious in there and i am probably not able to fix that
[12:11] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip: could i paste you some bootlog (no clue where such a thing is) so that you have a look?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: well that log will detail everything waking up and getting configured
[12:11] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: they just worked for me with (finally, on this box). until i upgraded. now they are just gone. which is a *bit* annoying.
[12:11] <StR|Sangreal> it occured on boot, told that sth wont be fixed automatically, and the boot continued
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: is thing thing dual booting?
[12:12] <Duesentrieb> yes.,
[12:12] <Duesentrieb> well, i don't use the wqindows partition, but it's still there
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: then it should be in that log if there is an error
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: is it hibernated or suspended?
[12:12] <Duesentrieb> huh? the windows? no.
[12:13] <StR|Sangreal> maybe, but i cannot deduce anything of that
[12:13] <StR|Sangreal> and its enormous in size
[12:13] <Duesentrieb> couldn't imagine why that would be relevant either
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: some windows stuff "holds" hardware and makes it weird
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: yep, its what your kernel has done since it came up
[12:14] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip: could i paste you some file content so that you may have a look of what went wrong?
[12:14] <StR|Sangreal> the error ocurred before kdm was launched
[12:14] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: it "holds" hardware across a cold boot? scary. but as i said, it worked fine until i upgraded. didn't touch windows for weeks.
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: just read down and look for errors and warning
[12:15] <Duesentrieb> also, i actually suspect it still works. the options are simply missing.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: i'm not to clued up on gnome, maybe if you head into the power options there may be an option to enable / disable hibernation etc which you could set OR unset then reset
[12:16] <kronicKoH1> YOU ALL SUCK!!!
[12:16] <kronicKoH1> .....
[12:16] <kronicKoH1> through straws
[12:16] <Duesentrieb> gnome?...
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> oh im crazy
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477981
[12:19] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip: i dont get anything suspicious
[12:19] <StR|Sangreal> however i boot over 80 seconds instead of initial 48
[12:19] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: sounds similar, but i *am* using kdm, and I don't see a solution posted there :(
[12:20] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: thanks for looking, anyway
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/276711
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: i'd suggest a memtestand an fsck
[12:21] <StR|Sangreal> i dont understand :/
[12:21] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: that's at loeast a file to look at. though i do wonder why it would break during an update.
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: check your ram from grub and run a disk check from either root console oR the menu for recovery mode for your kernel
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: check in systemsettings for power options see if theres anything intelligent in there
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: updates change files, why not that one :)
[12:23] <StR|Sangreal> ok that cannot be at harm
[12:23] <StR|Sangreal> the second thing:
[12:23] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: that file has both sleep and hibernat enabled. powerdevil settings look fine, but they mainly refer to actions to be performed when bat is low, etc.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: try disabling it, then re-eabling it
[12:24] <StR|Sangreal> how can i install widgets of kde, apple and google if they are not in the default addons package?
[12:25] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: how? i don't see an option for this
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: install them and they will be available
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: not sure, as I dont use this, maybe its some commenting out in that file. You'll have to dig around, or ask later on
[12:26] <Duesentrieb> ok. thanks anyway
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> np man
[12:27] <StR|Sangreal> how should i install them?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: well what is it that you are exactly after
[12:27] <StR|Sangreal> kde-look.org plasmoids (not included in kdeplasma-addons), and some google gadgets
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: right click desktop -> add widget (may need to unlock them first)
[12:28] <StR|Sangreal> and i need some system performance monitor and a suitable weather forecast docklet
[12:28] <StR|Sangreal> and a dock indeed
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: you need to compile them from what i can see
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: or they are .plasmoid
[12:29] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: when i tell it to suspend when i close tthe lid, it does, i just tried. the issue is really only that the opotiosn asre no longer in the menu. is is *really* annyoing :/ i could probably do it from tthe shellm, but i don't know what command toi use...
[12:30] <varghese> do ppl here chat here about anything other than kubuntu ???
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> varghese: no as its offtopic
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !ot | varghese
[12:31] <Duesentrieb> actually, pm-suspend does the trick. that'S at least something.
[12:31] <varghese> how do i join kubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: i would imagine you can double click a .plasmoid file to install it
[12:31] <Duesentrieb> varghese: /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> varghese: /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:32] <StR|Sangreal> ok i would seek for such formats
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: could have it as an executable script on the desktop
[12:33] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: yes. that would be a workaround. i still wonder wtf is going wroing though
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: you can compile any you need though, there are weather based one andother such goodies in a defaul install
[12:33] <Duesentrieb> i'd rather find the case. but i'm glad to know a woprkaround, of course
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: not a scooby mate, log a bug
[12:33] <varghese> which is the latest nvidia driver that is out
[12:34] <Duesentrieb> ActionParsnip: askin on #kde first.- but then i will
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !find nvidia-glx-180
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> varghese: not all cards are supported by the 180 driver
[12:34] <varghese> k
[12:34] <vbgunz> anybody know how to get the system tray to have a solid black background?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> varghese: my 6150 doesnt like it and i use the 177
[12:34] <varghese> me too
[12:34] <varghese> 6100
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> vbgunz: its a desktop effect, if you turn them ff it goes solid so I'd imagine its something in that
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> varghese: its a fine card, just not all singing bells and whistles
[12:35] <varghese> which is the best DC client
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> !best | varghese
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> varghese: in life there is no BEST anything
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !info dcgui
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> its gnome based
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !info valknut
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> yay
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> varghese: theres one to try
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !info dc-qt
[12:40] <vbgunz> I've asked this question almost everyday if not *every* other day. how do you reset/restore the entire in khotkeys? I have many duplicates. anyone know how to fix this up?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> !info khotkeys
[12:41] <Duesentrieb> hm, there's a biggish qt update in the pipe. perhaps that will fix it. or it will break more stuff.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: you will have to wait and see ;)
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu == no warranty
[12:42] <Duesentrieb> looking at http://forums.opensuse.org/install-boot-login/387968-no-suspend-kmenu-2.html
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Duesentrieb: least you arent alone
[12:43] <Lummoxx_> vbgunz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/253337
[12:43] <Riesh> Does anybody know if Kubuntu will get such a groovy grub menu as OpenSuse ? ...
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Riesh: do you mean like this? http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/0/0d/103_grub.png
[12:45] <Riesh> ActionParsnip: ... Yes ... version 11.1 now has something grey at the top ... nice contrast that gives
[12:46] <StR|Sangreal> actionparsnip: how should i install this app? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+System+Monitor?content=86664
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: it says exactly how to install it on the site you gave
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Riesh: im unsure, if you check the grub config on an opensuse system you may find how it is setup
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: it even tells you the packages yu need to install too
[12:48] <Riesh> see what i mean .... http://images.howtoforge.com/images/perfect_server_opensuse11.1/big/1.jpg
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: id say that page was about as complete as you can physically get
[12:48] <Lupus-SLE> Guys... I have pondered this question for many moons, and have not come to a succesful conclusion... but how the feck do I get KMix and KNetworkManager to STOP starting up when I log in? I'm struggling to find any in the startup folders under my home's .kde folder
[12:49] <Riesh> just would be nice if Kubuntu has something like this as standard ...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Riesh: or look on an open suse cd to see how that is configured, an installed system would be more precise imho
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Riesh: submit it as a bug and it will be moved to desirable
[12:49] <vbgunz> Lummoxx_: the last post there says "Fix released to Jaunty. (And to intrepid via the kubuntu-experimental ppa packages)" ... I am on the latest Jaunty and see this. this has not been fixed nor does it try to fix itself. thank you for pointing that out but it doesn't help me :(
[12:49] <Riesh> OK, might do that ... looks betetr as such text grub menu :-)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Riesh: i never see mine, it just boots the newest kernel in after 2 seconds timeout
[12:50] <Lummoxx_> vbgunz: then it's likely that nobody has your answer, and you should update the bug with your information, so that they know it still may be a problem.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> lupine_85: you could have a script in .kde to killall kmix; killall network-manager or whatever its called in ps -ef
[12:51] <Riesh> well i am not really sure what it will be in Jaunty .... because i have a quadrupal booting computer (Fedora, OpenSuse, Kubuntu Jaunty and WinXP),,, with OpenSuse grub ...
[12:52] <vbgunz> Lummoxx_: yeah, I'd hate to open a new bug or that bug and it turns out there is something wrong on my end :/
[12:53] <Anil_> what's the password for the default "root" user
[12:53] <Riesh> there is no passwd for root
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !root | Anil_
[12:53] <bazhang> Anil_, use sudo
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Anil_: you dont need it either. just sudo / kdesudo for everthing yuo need admin power for
[12:54] <Riesh> "sudo -i" to become root
[12:54] <bazhang> very rarely
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Riesh: just dont launch gui apps from that, it doesnt configure the environment correctly
[12:55] <Lummoxx_> Ancient wise tech says, when you know how to be root without sudo, then you will know the password to root.
[12:55] <Anil_> here's the prob...i recently deleted  the default account...im trying to use the other non-privelaged user account but im not able to run any of the superuser commands
[12:55] <Riesh> true ...
[12:55] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:55] <bazhang> :)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Anil_: yikes
[12:56] <Anil_> :)
[12:56] <Dr_willis> You need to use a live cd, or rescue mode to fix the sudo rights of the new account then.
[12:56] <Riesh> Anil_ start in single user mode and add yourself the new account to the admin group
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: ooh i'm all curious, tell us a story :)
[12:57] <Dr_willis> 'never delete the initial user, and live happialy ever after, the end.'
[12:57] <Anil_> but im not even able to open kuser since it requires sudo previlages
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Anil_: if you boot to recovery console for your kernel, ten select root console you will be root, you can then add one of the none priveledged accounts to the admin group
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[12:58] <Riesh> !sudo
[12:58] <Lupus-SLE> How the feck do I get KMix and KNetworkManager to STOP starting up when I log in? I'm struggling to find any in the startup folders under my home's .kde folder
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/loading-a-program-at-startup-164742/
[12:59] <bazhang> Lupus-SLE, do you need them?
[12:59] <Duesentrieb> Lupus-SLE: if you right-click on the network-manager and tell it to quit, i asks you if it should start automatically... at least for me.
[13:00] <Lupus-SLE> bazhang:  No, which is why I want them to die in a fire!
[13:00] <Duesentrieb> Lupus-SLE: or at least, it did. until recently. uh...
[13:00] <bazhang> Lupus-SLE, why not uninstall them
[13:00] <Riesh> Lupus-SLE: apt-get --purge remove
[13:00] <Lupus-SLE> Hmm.... you have a good point...
[13:00] <Lupus-SLE> That said... Kmix does come in handy time to time...
[13:01] <Anil_> thx...
[13:01] <Lupus-SLE> knetworkmanager I could probably kill, but then I feel that'd be negating the actual issue...
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: i always rip it out, i manualy edit the interfaces file
[13:03] <Lupus-SLE> Hmmm
[13:03] <Lupus-SLE> It shall be done!
[13:05] <Lupus-SLE> ActionParsnip: Right... now I'm screwed...
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: why?
[13:05] <Lupus-SLE> According to adept, the package knetworkmanager isn't installed
[13:05] <Lupus-SLE> Yet... the program is quite clearly there
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: ps -ef | grep manage
[13:06]  * ActionParsnip uses the linux standard ps command :D
[13:07] <Lupus-SLE> Aye... it exists
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: kill it dead
[13:07] <vbgunz> Lummoxx_: I may have solved it after all. I need to log out to test though, brb
[13:08] <Lupus-SLE> Stopping it isn't the issue, autostart IS
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: when you uninstall it  it will be removed from the startup sequence
[13:08] <Lupus-SLE> Upon quit, no option for autostart is given
[13:08] <Lupus-SLE> But... how?
[13:08] <Lupus-SLE> It doesn't appear to be part of the knetworkmanager package...
[13:08] <Lupus-SLE> I don't know what package it is in
[13:09] <Riesh> Lupus-SLE apt-get --purge remove network-manager-kde
[13:11] <Lupus-SLE> Right... it's dead Dave
[13:11] <StR|Sangreal> pls how can i install the following widget
[13:11] <StR|Sangreal> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+System+Monitor?content=86664
[13:12] <Lupus-SLE> Doesn't quite explain why Kmix is still alive...
[13:12] <Lupus-SLE> Well... I mean... I don't want to uninstall it, I just want it to die horribly in a fire if it ever tries to start upon login
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: you could make a script to run killall kmix when your system logs in
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: not graceful, let me websearch
[13:13] <StR|Sangreal> parsnip, pls how should i install that?
[13:14] <Lupus-SLE> Yes, but that would be a really... really... scruffy way of doing it
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: its there. I can copy and paste the lines if you want
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Lupus-SLE: true
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: are you being serious?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: download the file it says: http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/86664-oxygen.skz
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: Right click on desktop, Add Widgets, Select "Install new widgets", Select "Install from file" , select the file you downloaded, Click finish
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: you will also need to run: sudo apt-get install hddtemp lm_sensors
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: I LITERALLY copied and pasted that from the page you just gave me
[13:17] <StR|Sangreal> actionparsnip, dont misunderstand me
[13:17] <StR|Sangreal> but it doesnt accept files except .plasmoid and .zip
[13:18] <StR|Sangreal> i have even tried to rename, i canot install it through the wizard
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: then you should have said that rather than "how can I install thihs"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: its a superkaramba file
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: http://www.nabble.com/installing-plasmoids-td21659482.html
[13:19] <Dr_willis> does SuperKaramba even work with KDE 4?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> !find superkara
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> !info superkaramba
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> try it is all I can suggest
[13:22] <Lupus-SLE> Why would you use it?
[13:22] <Dr_willis> If you want to use SuperKaramba widgits - you need superkaramba..
[13:22] <Dr_willis> but i would suggest Not even messing with SuperKaramba
[13:22] <Lupus-SLE> it's a slightly more bloaty and less integrated version of Plasma, it has no use in KDE 4
[13:22] <Dr_willis> I never ever saw it work very well in kde 3 either.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> conky ftw :D
[13:23] <MaGicKangaRoo> !info slang1
[13:24] <MaGicKangaRoo> !info patch
[13:24] <Dr_willis> !find slang
[13:24] <MaGicKangaRoo> oh thanks
[13:24] <MaGicKangaRoo> !info libslang2
[13:25] <anil_> How to add users to sudoers file??
[13:25] <Dr_willis> befor messign with the sudoers files its a VERY VERY VERY good idea to read up on 'sudoers'
[13:26] <Dr_willis> one normally uses visudo I think to edit that file.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> sudo has a lot more features then 'just the command you do to  run admin stuff' :)
[13:27] <noren> hi all
[13:27] <Dr_willis> Howdies
[13:28] <anil_> i just created a system user using adduser in the recovey  root console...now after i login im not able to any sudo cmds...
[13:28] <noren> got a problem here sincce yestarday
[13:28] <StR|Sangreal> actionparsnip, thanks for your patience, i am contented with the result :)
[13:28] <anil_> it says "u're not in the sudoers file"
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: sweet
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: please be precise when requesting help
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: saves confusion
[13:29] <noren> i was able to update to kde4.2 yestarday, but after that my pulse audio haad stoped and i cant get any sound in the vid files
[13:30] <anil_> Dr_willis: ^^
[13:30] <anil_> Dr_willis: any sugestions
[13:30] <Dr_willis> how did you create a 'system' user?
[13:30] <leon_> hi all, can anyone here PLS help with a Yukon nic wierd prob?
[13:30] <anil_> using the --system option
[13:30] <noren> is three any channel for multimedia queries here
[13:31] <Dr_willis> anil_,  cant say that ive ever done that.. Most likely the user needs tobe set to be in the proper groups.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[13:32] <anil_> what's the default group???i remember seeing is say that the user was crreated in goup called nogroups...
[13:32] <anil_> seeing it* say
[13:33] <Dr_willis> I notice my user is in the  admin group
[13:33] <Dr_willis> grep /etc/groups  willis   ---> admin:x:123:willis    + other groups
[13:34] <anil_> ok then i'll try adding the user to the admin group...hope that adds me into the sudoers file...
[13:34] <anil_> rebooted my system like 8 times now:)
[13:34] <Dr_willis> its not 'adding you to the sudoers file' the admin group IS in the sudoers  settings.. I think
[13:35] <Dr_willis> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[13:35] <Dr_willis> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[13:35] <anil_> ok then...
[13:35] <anil_> here goes
[13:36] <Dr_willis> and you really dont need to reboot to test it. You could login as a 'user' and seeif they can sudo in a different console.
[13:37] <shadeslayer> hey anybody have an XPS here??
[13:37] <shadeslayer> Dell XPS M1530 that is
[13:38] <Dr_willis> thats a little more specific at least. :) Dell makles a lot of XPS's variants
[13:38] <shadeslayer> well i want to test this software,http://www.upek.com/solutions/pc_and_networking/sdks/linux/
[13:38] <shadeslayer> right now my connection is banged up with some updates
[13:41] <vbgunz> Lummoxx_: I solved it.
[13:42] <vbgunz> Lummoxx_: I had to be out of KDE to do it but I I got rid of the duplicates and Print now seems to work across sessions
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:44] <shadeslayer> so nobody here with an XPS :(
[13:45] <shadeslayer> BTW why does bluetooth crash everytime when i switch my device off
[13:45] <StR|Sangreal> now i have to install a plasmoid from tar.bz2 file, apparently a source code
[13:45] <StR|Sangreal> how shall i proceed?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> StR|Sangreal, tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2, then in the folder that command creates look for a README textfile. It has instructions how to proceed.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> StR|Sangreal , before doing the command , make the app executable by right clicking on it and choosing permissions, then check the executable box
[13:50] <StR|Sangreal> i am just seeking for some weather forecast widget
[13:50] <shadeslayer> anybody here with a XPS M1530+Kubuntu 8.10????
[13:50] <StR|Sangreal> but i am rather worried instaling from source code so if sb could advise me a more user friendly app...
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ok, if you can find one StR|Sangreal
[13:55] <Tengen> i am giving away my old laptop with a linux/windows dual boot. I need to make Windows the defualt OS in grub. How do i go that?
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Tengen: Kubuntu??
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Tengen: K>system settings>advanced tab>GRUB editor
[13:56] <Tengen> oh wait, i went to the wrong one, i have Xubuntu
[13:57] <shadeslayer> Tengen: try finding GRUB editor
[13:57] <shadeslayer> itll be in syslytem settings probab
[13:57] <shadeslayer> *probably
[13:58] <Tengen> not finding it in there
[13:58] <shadeslayer> and #xubuntu
[13:58] <Tengen> headed there now
[13:58] <shadeslayer> they can tell you better
[13:58] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> xubuntu use xfce desktop , so the instructions here won't be applicable
[14:02] <anil_kumar> Dr_willis: Hi...im back.
[14:02] <noren> how can i get my pulseaudio to work inn kde4.2 or is therre something else that i have to use
[14:02] <anil_kumar> Dr_willis: that didnt work
[14:02] <Tengen> unless there something i can do through terminal
[14:03] <Dr_willis> we have short term memory here.. I suggest ya summareize  the problem again anil_kumar
[14:03] <noren> right now i can only see the media but cant hear them
[14:03] <anil_kumar> Dr_willis: ok fair enough
[14:03] <anil_kumar> i had some prob logging in
[14:03] <BluesKaj> noren , use alsa
[14:03] <anil_kumar> i created a new user in th recovery root console
[14:04] <anil_kumar> using adduser
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !alsa | noren
[14:04] <anil_kumar> but still i wasnt able to execute the sudo commands
[14:05] <noren> BluesKaj: wil i have to install separate pacakge to use them
[14:05] <anil_kumar> then i re-did the entire thing but this time i used --system option...so a system user was created but still i souldnt do what i wanted to do
[14:05] <Riesh> anil_kumar: Take a look at this explanation: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[14:05] <BluesKaj> eewwuuu, somebody should update those instructions to Intrepid , that looks like 7.10
[14:07] <BluesKaj> noren , open a terminal and type alsamixer , make sure all the ctrls that you intend to use are set at at least 67-71% , and unmute them eith the M key
[14:07] <Riesh> anil_kumar: the admin group is "adm"
[14:07] <BluesKaj> eith = with
[14:07] <anil_kumar> oh cool...that was missing.
[14:08] <anil_kumar> also now that i've created the acc in a group called admin
[14:08] <anil_kumar> it says unable to open kstartupmanager4
[14:08] <anil_kumar> is ther any explanation for that
[14:08] <BluesKaj> noren , no seperate pkg needed ,alsa installs with kubuntu by default
[14:09] <BluesKaj> somebody should update those "sound" instructions to Intrepid , that looks like 7.10
[14:09] <anil_kumar> hello...^^
[14:09] <noren> BluesKaj: my problem is that i can hear sound while playing amarok, but i cant hear anything while playing any vid file
[14:10] <bazhang> noren at the same time?
[14:10] <Riesh> anil_kumar: Not sure what you mean .... kstartupmanager4 doesn't give any google results
[14:10] <noren> bazhang: both at the same time and separate time
[14:11] <anil_kumar> Rjesh: when i login to my newly created acc that was the error msg i got...
[14:11] <anil_kumar> get*
[14:11] <BluesKaj> oh ok , noren that's different . Open adept and choose sources , edit sources / third party sources tab , enable them all , except for the cdrom box
[14:11] <bazhang> noren what video? flash?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> anybody here with a XPS M1530+Kubuntu 8.10??
[14:12] <shadeslayer> eh this was the last time,i give up
[14:12] <noren> bazhang: avi files
[14:13] <BluesKaj> noren , then in the terminal , sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libk3b3-extracodecs libxine1-ffmpeg
[14:13] <anil_kumar> Riesh: ^^
[14:13] <leon_> wierd! - NIC connected directly to router works perfectly. However, when connected to switch the same interface (with updated settings) toggles up and down, up and down!!?
[14:13] <noren> BluesKaj: i had also installed vlc but its also showing only vid but no audio
[14:14] <Riesh> anil_kumar: Not sure ... betetr make a new account in single user mode and do a "useradd -G adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin <username>"
[14:14] <leon_> anyone had a similar problem?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> noren, did you do the above ?
[14:15] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120596/ << i aleaady have them
[14:15] <anil_kumar> Riesh: are all those options really necessary
[14:16] <Riesh> anil_kumar: that are not options but additional groups which a standard account will get
[14:18] <noren> BluesKaj: everything was working fine in kubuntu8.10 it happened after updating to kde4.2
[14:18] <noren> now it says pulse audio not working/supported
[14:18] <anil_kumar> k got it
[14:18] <anil_kumar> thx
[14:19] <BluesKaj> yes noren, use alsa as I suggested
[14:19] <noren> BluesKaj: please tell me how to go about it
[14:20] <BluesKaj> noren read above , I gave instructions to yo earlier about alsa
[14:22] <Tengen> ok getting infor in #xubuntu takes forevar. I need to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to make windows the default OS. which parts do i need to edit?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Tengen , is there a grub edit option in system settings ?
[14:23] <Tengen> no
[14:24] <Riesh> Tengen: ... have wubi install or on it's own partion?
[14:24] <Tengen> i have xubuntu installed on a seperate partition
[14:24] <Riesh> Then look at the line beginning with "default"
[14:25] <noren> alsamixer not working
[14:25] <Riesh> 0 is the first OS-option, 1 the second and so on
[14:26] <Tengen> ahh, so i have three options for linux and then windows, windows would be 3?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> noren, are the controls unmuted ?
[14:26] <Riesh> Yes ... i think so
[14:26] <Dr_willis> 3 menu items.. would be 0, 1, 2 in grub defaults
[14:26] <Dr_willis> Grub starts counting at ZERO
[14:26] <Dr_willis> also the 'comment' lines may count.
[14:27] <noren> BluesKaj: the alsamixer never started
[14:27] <Dr_willis> so at the grub menu..  start at the top.. arrow down to the one ya want..  and count the # of times you have to hit the down arrow key
[14:27] <BluesKaj> did you type alsamixer in the terminal
[14:27] <noren> yes
[14:27] <BluesKaj> nothing ?
[14:28] <noren> while typing it is showing two option one with gui and one without but choosing any wont staart anything
[14:29] <BluesKaj> do you know waht i mean by the terminal/Konsole , noren ?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> alsamixer doesn't "start", it's a daemon ..always on
[14:30] <noren> i tped there also
[14:31] <Dr_willis> 'alsamixer' run a  ncurses based mixer application here by default in the termianl window :)
[14:31] <noren> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory << it says
[14:31] <Dr_willis> sounds like the sound card may be missconfigured.
[14:31] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:32] <noren> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[14:32] <noren> card 1: default [PnP Audio Device        ], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[14:32] <noren>   Subdevices: 0/1
[14:32] <noren>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[14:32] <Dr_willis> ive never used a usb audio device.. so no idea what ones are even supported.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> noren, in the terminal, lspci | grep audio
[14:33] <BluesKaj> or aplay -l
[14:33] <noren> lspci | grep audio << gives nothing << above i gave you the output of aplay -l
[14:34] <BluesKaj> noren, cat /proc/asound/cards
[14:34] <noren> 1 [default        ]: USB-Audio - PnP Audio Device
[14:34] <noren>                       PnP Audio Device         at usb-0000:00:02.0-7, full speed
[14:37] <BluesKaj> that's not a regular audiocard setup noren, I've never encountered that before so I don't know haow how to help
[14:37] <noren> i have on board audio, no separatee card as such
[14:38] <noren> leme gogle out some about this
[14:39] <BluesKaj> well noren , your system isn't detecting onboard, you must have it disabled in the BIOS peripherals
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[14:41] <noren> but everything was fine in kubuntu 8.10 and also my amarok is playing fine ???
[14:41] <Tengen> ok, got the grub menu fixed, now: is there any way to format the linux partitions to NTFS with out using a boot
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> i got an issue with konsole colours. As a normal user in konsole (and yakuake) I get no file / folder colours highlighting file types, however if I sudo -i and ls a folder, there are colours again, can anyone please advise?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-tools
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> !find ntfs
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: apt-cache search ntfs
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: as long as the partition can be unmounted, it can be formatted
[14:43] <Tengen> ok, what about the root partition?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: formatting will destroy all the data on the partition
[14:43] <Tengen> yes i know
[14:43] <Tengen> giving away the computer to someone who haz no idea what linux is let alone how to use it
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: if its mounted, you can't format it, the root partition will be mounted so you can use the system so will not be formatable
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: i'd perform a clean install and setup all the hardware and drivers
[14:44] <Tengen> well the CD drive is broke and i'm not buying a new one
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Tengen , use GParted ..DL and burn it to a cd , it will come in handy for partiton editing
[14:44] <Tengen> and it's doesn't support usb booting
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: got a 1Gb USB stick handy? You can install from that
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> bah
[14:45] <Tengen> lol, it's too old
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Tengen , cdrom drives are cheap 35bucks
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: how many partitions do you have?
[14:45] <Tengen> bah, they never need the extra 20gigs anyway
[14:45] <Tengen> 3
[14:45] <genii> Get a rom-o-matic floppy boot disk and install over network
[14:45] <Tengen> one for linux, one form windows, and one for media/games and so forth
[14:45] <noren_> BluesKaj: As soon as get in the kdm theres a notification saying
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: you could put the ubuntu iso on a partition and tell grub to boot it, yo ucan then destroy the other 2 partitions once in the installer and reinstall
[14:46] <noren_> The Audio Device PulseAudio does not work falling back to pNp Audio
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: that, or take out the disk and put it in another pc and install ubuntu to it, then move it ack to its intended system
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> *back
[14:46] <Tengen> ok, i might do that, but first, time to salvage some files
[14:47] <Tengen> thanks for the help
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Tengen: np man, theres always a way around, even if its not pretty
[14:49] <BluesKaj> noren, do you know what the onboard soundcard model# is ?
[14:49] <noren> dont can i find out if i get in windows ??
[14:50] <BluesKaj> yes noren, in my computer/devices
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> noren: lspci will tell you
[14:53] <noren> lemme check and come back
[14:55] <noren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120608/ <<  lspci
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> has anyone ever lost konsole colourings for files?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> all my files show in grey and their in no highlighting
[15:13] <Suiko> hi ActionParsnip
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: hi
[15:14] <Suiko> how's it going how's rolling
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> stupid konsole isnt showing colour highlights
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> and its plain annoying
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> it will if i sudo -i
[15:16] <mitsarionas> hi... how could I prevent my pc from sending its hostname to the router? is the send host-name "<hostname>"; line in dhclient.conf responsible?
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> mitsarionas: it has to send it for updating the routing table and arp afaik
[15:17] <Suiko> nice weather today, isnt it?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> mitsarionas: try it with an empty name to send, like a single space or a full stop
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> mitsarionas: actually, i'd put an A or a Z or something
[15:18] <mitsarionas> ActionParsnip: nice thanx :)
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> mitsarionas: backup the file first and you can do anything
[15:19] <mitsarionas> :)
[15:24] <biophysics> can I somehow use a konsole as a plasmoid on the desktop
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> hahahahaha running yakuake on windows via forwarded x apps is the funniest thing ever
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> biophysics: you could run yakuake, it brings a konsole up and down from the top of the screen when you press a hotkey
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Suiko: got it going, copied roots and changed ownership :)
[15:26] <mitsarionas> what hotkey do you guys use for yakuake?
[15:28] <Riesh> mitsarionas: default is `
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> mitsarionas: i use super + ` as i use ` quite abit
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[15:31] <mitsarionas> i use super+a ... super+` seems good too
[15:32] <willow> ...
[15:33] <willow> hi guys, got a prob... just installed kubuntu 8.10, can't listen to mp3 files but dunno the codec i need 2 install, can u help me?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> !mp3 \ willow
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> !mp3 | willow
[15:34] <BluesKaj> willow , libxine1-ffmpeg and libk3b3-extracodecs
[15:34] <willow> BluesKaj thanks a lot
[15:35] <Riesh> willow: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:35] <peacesarah> hi rooom
[15:35] <jxander> i have ubuntu intrepid and i'm trying to install the kubuntu-desktop package, but i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/120624/ . please help
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> jxander: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> jxander: add that repo, then install
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> jxander: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[15:41] <jxander> ActionParsnip: thanks... i'll add it right now :) so my problem was that canonical didn't include the latest version?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> jxander: no, I think you have to get the ppa one, Jaunty wil include kde4.2
[15:42] <khalidmian> i have avast antivirus linux in kubuntu which scans all my drives including windows just wondering if theres a way for me to put it in autostartand autoscan in background
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: can it be run from cli?
[15:43] <khalidmian> cli?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> !cli
[15:44] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: sorry what is cli
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: ubottu just told you
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: you know when you use terminal, thats cli...Command Line Interface
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: just like ubottu said
[15:45] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: should i open term and write sudo run avast
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: if avast can be executed via command line you could run it in your terminal with a '&' on the end to put it in the background, the terminal must stay open for the scan to run
[15:46] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: thanks for info so the command should be : sudo run avast&
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: i dont know, you'll have to read the readme andman pages
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: i very much doubt its sudo run avast
[15:47] <darkmoon> hii
[15:47] <darkmoon> E: No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso temporalmente no disponible)
[15:47] <darkmoon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt | darkmoon
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: try: avast --help
[15:48] <darkmoon> nice let me try
[15:48] <Pici> lamo
[15:48] <Pici> er, wrong window. Sorry.
[15:49] <andrei> a
[15:50] <DiskACE> Hello friends, i need help
[15:50] <andrei> what with ?
[15:50] <DiskACE> kdm
[15:50] <DiskACE> after adept upgrade
[15:50] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: lol sorry im laughing but honestly its all greek to me
[15:50] <genii> DiskACE: A better description of the issue might help
[15:50] <DiskACE> i believe to 4.2
[15:51] <DiskACE> when i reboot kdm is missing
[15:51] <DiskACE> ./etc/init.d/kdm is still present but won't launch
[15:51] <DiskACE> when i try to reinstall apt-get install kdm it say broken package
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: thats ow you can scan from command line
[15:52] <DiskACE> i am not sure what i should do to get kdm back up and running now
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: i dont have it installed so I cant directly advise, you could pastebin the output
[15:53] <genii> DiskACE: You went from kde 3 to 4.2  or from 4.1(or so) to 4.2 ?
[15:53] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: if i make a shell script where to i place it and how
[15:53] <DiskACE> 4.1 to 4.2
[15:53] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27141.15
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> !info kwin
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> !info fluxbox
[15:54] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: also i want avast to scan all system not just $home
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: there you go, you answered your own question
[15:55] <genii> DiskACE: If you try at command line: sudo kdm                           it chokes also ?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: to scan from cli: sudo avast-update; sudo avast ~ &
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: that will run avast in the background of the terminal, but dont close it or the scan will die
[15:55] <DiskACE> program is currently not install
[15:55] <DiskACE> installed
[15:56] <DiskACE> and when i try to install: apt-get install kdm it say broken package
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install kdm
[15:56] <genii> DiskACE: The box has internet?
[15:56] <genii> Bah, work...AFK
[15:56] <DiskACE> yes
[15:56] <DiskACE> --reinstall install kdm does not work
[15:56] <DiskACE> same error
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: can you give a pastebin of the output of my command please
[15:57] <DiskACE> hummmm maybe
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[15:57] <DiskACE> with lynx ?
[15:57] <Pici> !info pastebinit
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: that command will scan your home directory, if you want to scan elsewhere, change the option
[15:58] <DiskACE> nice
[15:58] <DiskACE> ok ... one minute
[16:01] <sandGorgon> hi guys.. installing a lean kde from ubuntu minimal. I dont have startkde - what should I install to get it ?
[16:01] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=27141.15  - theres something on this link on creating a shell script only i dont know how i make one
[16:02] <DiskACE> http://pastebin.com/f2bf153b9
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: a shell script is a text file with a special line at the top, it is also marked as excutable
[16:02] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: do i make a shell script in terminal?
[16:02] <DiskACE> not sure if that help
[16:02] <DiskACE> never used pastebinit
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: you can make it in any text editor, the post you sent hasa script you can use
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Pici: how can we get a pastebin of apt-get errors?
[16:03] <Pici> ActionParsnip: er
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Pici: is it apt-get upgrade 2>pastebinit
[16:04] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: Ok so i open text editor and then paste script and then save it where?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: anywhere you want
[16:04] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: save as what?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: anything you want, its your script
[16:04] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: and how do i run the text that i make
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: then you must use sudo chmod +x <the script you made>  to make it executable
[16:05] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: never madea scrit 1st time
[16:05] <DiskACE> pastebinit -i apt-get --reinstall install kdm
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: then when you launch it from konsole, it will run as a proram...or script
[16:05] <DiskACE> not working :P
[16:05] <DiskACE> not sure about the syntax though
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: maybe its    cat `apt-get upgrade` | pastebinit
[16:07] <DiskACE> apparently
[16:07] <sandGorgon> guys some help please..... installing a lean kde from ubuntu minimal. I dont have startkde - what should I install to get it ?
[16:07] <DiskACE> apt-get --reinstall install kdm | pastebinit
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> sandGorgon: did you run: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:08] <DiskACE> http://pastebin.com/f43a58763
[16:08] <DiskACE> here ya go
[16:09] <sandGorgon> ActionParsnip: no.. that is precisely what I dont want. i want the minimal stuff , so I got kdebase, kde-plasma, kdelibs, kwin, kdm
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:09] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: ok so i did sudo chmod +x avast
[16:09] <DiskACE> not working
[16:09] <DiskACE> already try
[16:09] <DiskACE> you want the pasterbin ?
[16:09] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: the name of my script is called avast
[16:09] <DiskACE> pastebin
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> sandGorgon: try: apt-file search startkde
[16:10] <draik_> My Kubuntu partition keeps on freezing when I run an app within KDE and Openbox. At times, I can't get to the login screen or I get the login screen, but freezes during the KDE splash screen.
[16:10] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: how do i run it now?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: i'd call it something different, te program you are calling is called avast
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: call it something like avast-scan
[16:10] <DiskACE> http://pastebin.com/f5389c17a
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: crazy stuff
[16:11] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: ok done and did chmod+x now what
[16:11] <DiskACE> yap
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: run it with ./avast-scan
[16:11] <Duesentrieb> to repost a question i posted a few hours ago: since an update a few days ago, kmenu now longer offers the option to suspend or hibernate. how do i fix this? power management seems to work fine when invoked explicitly.
[16:11] <DiskACE> looks like everything disappeared
[16:11] <Duesentrieb>  http://forum.kde.org/how-does-hibernate-suspend-options-work-kde4-t-18837.html seems related
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: have you downloaded the deb files to your system yet?
[16:11] <Duesentrieb> is it possible that said kubuntu patch borke?
[16:12] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: what you mean ?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: well, did the deb files get downloaded from the web and now your system is refusing to instal them
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: or have they not even been attempted to e installed
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> khalidmian: is it running?
[16:14] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip not sure what to answer here but my guess is that according to the pastebin they have not been downloaded
[16:14] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip normally when i talk about deb files it is through dpkg -i
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: cd /var/cache/apt I think it is
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: apt-get downloads debs from the repo and installs them for you, they are also left on your system in a acache which you can clear to save space
[16:15] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip no .deb there except pastebin and lynx
[16:15] <draik_> I'm currently using TTY1 and want to find out what is causing the freeze.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> draik_: ps -ef | less
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> draik_: or top
[16:16] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: i see, so in this case there are no .deb files so the system just refuse to download them i guess
[16:17] <draik_> ActionParsnip: I ran 'htop' and saw Frostwire sent CPU to 48.0% when it suddenly froze.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: yeah its pretty much dug its heels in
[16:17] <sandGorgon> got it... kdebase-workspace-bin
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt
[16:17] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: so can i save this script to autorun when i strat kubuntu or something?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> DiskACE: run that
[16:18] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: also in option 3 asks what dir to scan how do i tell it to scan whole system
[16:18] <peacesarah> how do IRC work?
[16:19] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: kdebase-workstation-bin ?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip1> damn pidgin
[16:19] <ActionParsnip1> anyhoo
[16:19] <DiskACE> or the fuser
[16:19] <DiskACE> sir multi-task ;)
[16:19] <noren> !pulseaudio
[16:19] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: if you move it to ~/.kde/Autostart it will run every time
[16:20] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: the scrip has a menu system though which you will have to humour every time you boot
[16:20] <ActionParsnip1> DiskACE: does the fixapt help any
[16:20] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: i ran the command but it does nothing
[16:21] <khalidmian> hmmm i was looking for a simplistic autostart to avast to run in background the script really doesnt help to be honest then
[16:21] <ActionParsnip1> DiskACE: you could also run: sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:21] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: then you dont need all that stuff in that script, you need like 3 lines
[16:21] <draik_> ActionParsnip: in 'htop' I have htop at the top with 2.0% CPU at most
[16:21] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: what do you want to scan at boot?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: any zombie processes?
[16:22] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: nothing to upgrade
[16:22] <ActionParsnip1> DiskACE: ok now try the installation
[16:22]  * ActionParsnip1 crosses his everything
[16:22] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: i dont think avast linux will constantly run in background am i right?
[16:22] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip i am sorry what command to you refer to ?
[16:22] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: None that I can see.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: hmm
[16:23] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: you could kill apps off until its ok
[16:23] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: i dont think avast linux will constantly run and scan in background am i right?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> khalidmian: how did you install avast btw
[16:24] <shadeslayer> im thinking of installing it myse;f
[16:24] <khalidmian> sudo apt-get install avast
[16:24] <shadeslayer> *myself
[16:24] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: When I run firefox, it freezes instantly. The same goes for the other apps (frostwire, k3b, amarok, etc)
[16:24] <khalidmian> or go to avast website download deb  file and run it
[16:25] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: its not on the repos
[16:25] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-229128.html
[16:25] <ActionParsnip1> !info avast
[16:25] <shadeslayer> see i knew it
[16:25] <vincenzo> italiani?
[16:25] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: sorry its a deb file on avast website for linux
[16:25] <shadeslayer> oh ok,that method i know
[16:26] <shadeslayer> i prefer CLI
[16:26] <draik_> !it | vincenzo
[16:26] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: it can scan from cli, its fairly pointless though unless you samba share to windows clients or run a mail server
[16:27] <shadeslayer> i mean i want to install through CLI
[16:27] <shadeslayer> naah i run wine thats why
[16:27] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip: i seem to be able to see my windows dir via dolphin
[16:27] <shadeslayer> they said i could get infected
[16:27] <shadeslayer> BS or truth?
[16:28] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: anything else i should try or i should wait patiently on ubuntuforums ?
[16:29] <draik_> ActionParsnip1: Should it matter that I have a bunch of /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: not sure dude, have a websearch
[16:30] <ActionParsnip1> draik_: maybe someone else can pitc in
[16:30] <draik_> OK. Thanks
[16:30] <ActionParsnip1> DiskACE: i cant personally think of anything else, as long as your sources.list matches your release then you should be ok, I'd log a bug
[16:31] <DiskACE> cool
[16:31] <DiskACE> well i have intrepid sources.list
[16:31] <DiskACE> not sure if it change with 4.2 ?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip1> DiskACE: as long as you have in trepid repos and are running intrepid you are ok
[16:32] <ActionParsnip1> DiskACE: could try a reboot, stranger things have happened at sea
[16:32] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip1: would be good to atleast have the ability to minimize to tray
[16:32] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: use alltray, I dont think alltray will accept konsoles
[16:32] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip1: have tried alltray
[16:33] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: nop... even a reboot and all other grub image does the same
[16:33] <DiskACE> weird stuff here
[16:34] <DiskACE> ho i hate when it does that... :(
[16:35] <DiskACE> ActionParsnip: allright, well thanks for the help... i will try to fixit on my end
[16:35] <ActionParsnip1> DiskACE: try later, different users an all
[16:39] <noren> ActionParsnip1: i just installed Kaffine and the sound and vids there is fine
[16:39] <khalidmian> noren: i think he left
[16:40] <noren> oh ok
[16:42] <draik_> What is a good app for recording video on the monitor?
[16:42] <sl> Hi everybody, I have a question regarding the folder view plasmoid in KDE4.
[16:43] <sl> If I delete a file on in the folder (either in the plasmoid or let's say on the command line) the icon does not go away in the plasmoid.
[16:43] <sl> There is some short circle like animation but the icon of the file stays although the file really is gone.
[16:44] <genii> !info krecordmydesktop
[16:44] <sl> How can I get it to disappear the moment it is being deleted?
[16:51] <i3ooi3oo> Is there anyway to use ssh to interact with the active session?
[16:51] <heiritx> zeee
[16:51] <sl> What do you mean by "active session"?
[16:52] <i3ooi3oo> session logged on
[16:53] <sl> I am not sure I understand your question.
[16:53] <i3ooi3oo> at home pc is logged. My user is active and the session is alive I am at the office with ssh access
[16:53] <sl> Ah
[16:53] <heiritx> why i`m here?
[16:54] <sl> Logged on at home on the command line or to a GUI (KDE, Gnome)?
[16:54] <heiritx> i only install irc
[16:54] <i3ooi3oo> KDE at home
[16:55] <i3ooi3oo> heiritx: why are anyof us here that is an exostential question
[16:55] <sl> No idea, never tried that.
[16:56] <jarod_> hello
[16:56] <sl> You can tunnel everything through SSH but I have no idea how to remote access the KDE session.
[16:56] <i3ooi3oo> I just wanted to get the attention of somebody at the house
[16:56] <jarod_> sos
[16:57] <jarod_> hello
[16:57] <sl> You could ssh into your computer and open and close the CD tray. ;-)
[16:57] <sl> Or start to play some music.
[16:57] <sl> All that can be done on the command line.
[16:57] <jarod_> what do you mean?/
[16:58] <i3ooi3oo> So i could in theory record a MP3 and then send it and play it...
[16:58] <jarod_> yes
[16:58] <sl> for example
[16:58] <i3ooi3oo> that would be funny
[16:58] <jarod_> yes
[16:59] <i3ooi3oo> I am bored at work and want to mess with the Roomies
[16:59] <sl> I bet a big surprise for whoever is at home.
[16:59] <MaGicKangaRoo> I often scare my mrs by getting my box to play chain saws, manic laugthing, or me just going "im watching you!"
[16:59] <i3ooi3oo> Fuck.. sound is only hooked to the 42 inch tv right now
[16:59] <MaGicKangaRoo> just keeps her on her toes like
[16:59] <i3ooi3oo> I doubt it is one or on the correct av in
[17:00] <scottp> Hello everyone. In KDE4 systemsettings, all the Adminstrator stuff seems to me moved out. Anybody know where it went?
[17:00] <shadeslayer> hi,why was konversation removed in Kubuntu jaunty??
[17:00] <jals> hi, under "gtk styles and fonts" in the appearance menu, i applied the scrollbar fix fore firefox cos i'd been having a few display issues, and now firefox keeps crashing every now and then
[17:00] <jals> how do i remove this fix?
[17:01] <ubuntu__> .
[17:03] <draik__> Here is the error message from trying to start X
[17:03] <draik__> http://pastebin.com/m3d5de569
[17:03] <draik__> This seems to be the cause of my freezing.
[17:05] <jillsmitt> hi
[17:06] <jillsmitt> i cant use my flash in kubuntu 8.04? why?
[17:06] <jillsmitt> 2.6.24
[17:06] <jillsmitt> transcend 1Gib
[17:06] <jillsmitt> it ok on other systems and on [offtopsys]
[17:08] <tuxi> jillsmitt, was it properly dismounted from the last system?
[17:09] <shadeslayer> !imagebin
[17:09] <jillsmitt> tuxi: its good... it works on 2.6.26 or higher cores, but i cant upgrade it
[17:10] <jillsmitt> tuxi: dmasg sad that its in usb 1-7 activity
[17:10] <tuxi> do you have something like "[1732314.469315] sd 22:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0"
[17:11] <jillsmitt> tuxi: [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[17:11] <jillsmitt> system has no any reaction when i put it in port
[17:11] <jillsmitt> but dmesg sad that [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[17:11] <tuxi> no messages about recognizing it as a disk, then?
[17:12] <jillsmitt> tuxi: no, like no device is connected
[17:13] <jillsmitt> but on ubuntu 810 is good for it... oh but i need kde 3.5.9 and 2.6.24
[17:13] <tuxi> I'm not sure what to do next, sorry
[17:14] <jarod_> do what
[17:14] <tuxi> jarod_ can you help jillsmitt?
[17:14] <jarod_> yes
[17:14] <jillsmitt> jarod_: hi
[17:15] <jarod_> whats the problem
[17:15] <jillsmitt> i connecting my USD-disk in port, system has no any reaction but only dmesg sad that [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[17:15] <jillsmitt> in 2.6.24
[17:15] <jarod_> Some with me
[17:15] <jillsmitt> USBdisk:transcend 1Gib
[17:16] <jarod_> Its probley broken
[17:16] <jillsmitt> no
[17:16] <jillsmitt> it works on other systems
[17:16] <jarod_> Have you got dolphin
[17:16] <jillsmitt> like 2.6.26+ core
[17:16] <jillsmitt> no
[17:16] <jillsmitt> i delete it
[17:16] <jarod_> well i now how to do it my dolphin
[17:17] <jarod_> well you need to use something to browse
[17:17] <jillsmitt> i am not newbee user
[17:17] <jarod_> well i am
[17:17] <jillsmitt> but i have a problem
[17:17] <tuxi> jillsmitt, this happens after a reboot?
[17:18]  * tuxi is thinking potential hal problem
[17:18] <jillsmitt> no automount no reactions... i dont need 2.6.26 and i need kde3.459..
[17:18] <jillsmitt> tuxi: this happens always from install
[17:18] <tuxi> only this device?
[17:18] <jarod_> well go on to the internet download it
[17:18] <jillsmitt> yea, and 2 other of 7th i have
[17:19] <tuxi> what a pita
[17:19] <DaSkreech> socceroos_: ping
[17:19] <jillsmitt> tuxi: what?
[17:19] <tuxi> pain in the a--
[17:19] <slow-motion> hi
[17:19] <jarod_> Do any body own a wegbsite
[17:19] <jarod_> i meant website
[17:19] <jillsmitt> tuxi:  hmm i dont understand u
[17:20] <jarod_> Do any body own a website
[17:20]  * jillsmitt knows eng very bad)
[17:20] <draik__> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m3d5de569
[17:20] <jarod_> yes
[17:20] <draik__> DaSkreech: Would that cause the freeze too?
[17:20] <DaSkreech> jarod_: I would suppose. Ask your question
[17:20] <jarod_> go on
[17:20] <tuxi> jillsmitt, I'm not sure how to help you and your problem is perplexing -- I can't replicate since I don't have the hardware or software :-(
[17:21] <DaSkreech> draik__: yes
[17:21] <jarod_> how do you use the computer??????
[17:21] <tuxi> jillsmitt, what is your first language?
[17:21] <draik__> DaSkreech: What do you suggest?
[17:21] <jillsmitt> tuxi: take this: on 2.6.24 bad, 2.6.26 - good works - any core problems?
[17:21] <DaSkreech> draik__: kill X then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:22] <jillsmitt> computer: ru and kz
[17:22] <tuxi> maybe a kernel module issue with 2.6.24
[17:22] <draik__> Ummmm... I think my 1TB SATA HDD just failed.
[17:22] <computer> is everything fine
[17:22] <cumulus007> hey
[17:22] <computer> thats bad
[17:23] <DaSkreech> draik__: based on what?
[17:23] <cumulus007> I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop on uubntu jaunty, but the installation fails on kdelibs-data
[17:23] <computer> based what?
[17:23] <draik__> [155.958992] end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 137740351
[17:24] <cumulus007> it says there is no space left on device, but there's 33 GB free!
[17:24] <draik__> It's a long list of those entries DaSkreech
[17:24] <DaSkreech> >_<
[17:24] <computer> go on to www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[17:24] <DaSkreech> draik__: possibly. maybe just file system level errors
[17:24] <DaSkreech> draik__: backup now in either case
[17:25] <DaSkreech> No need to back up the entire system just settings and personal data
[17:25] <draik__> Can't backup
[17:25] <computer> do backups every year
[17:25] <computer> How about restarting your computer
[17:26] <computer> hello
[17:26] <draik__> Restarting now
[17:27] <draik__> so far so good....
[17:27] <computer> What just happen
[17:27]  * DaSkreech still recommends backup
[17:28] <computer> do it then
[17:28] <draik__> I can't do a backup. I have nowhere to backup (yet).
[17:28] <draik__> computer just froze prior to login
[17:28] <computer> Make room on your computer
[17:28] <draik__> Rebooting again
[17:28] <DaSkreech> do a du -sh on /etc and /home
[17:28] <computer> no
[17:28] <DaSkreech> Those are what you need to backup
[17:28] <computer> oh wait yeh
[17:29] <computer> thats right
[17:30] <ober_> hi
[17:30] <computer> Do anybody what to view my site
[17:30] <noren> hi
[17:31] <computer> hi
[17:31] <noren> wat site
[17:31] <shadeslayer> !hi | noren
[17:31] <DaSkreech> !hi | ober_
[17:31] <ober_> gracias
[17:31] <draik__> HDD failed at   hald
[17:32] <johnnie__> salve...
[17:32] <noren> DaSkreech: wat up ?? i finally got hang of playing with kde4.2
[17:32] <DaSkreech> noren: :-D
[17:32] <computer> go
[17:32] <computer> :-D
[17:33] <noren> but i cant get the pulse audio to get working
[17:33] <computer> i goes in green
[17:33] <noren> some on the othre channel just aaasked me to install kaffine and now its working only there
[17:34] <computer> Anybody what a file?
[17:35] <DaSkreech> noren: Still? nothing works?
[17:35] <DaSkreech> Kaffiene doesn't use pulseaudio
[17:37] <noren> oh ok, yes still the audio is   not comming inn vlc player or the dragon player
[17:37] <noren> i am using the kaffine for the way around
[17:39] <computer> noren
[17:40] <noren> yes computer
[17:41] <computer> i think you what noren
[17:41] <shadeslayer> ??
[17:41] <DaSkreech> !sound
[17:42] <computer> im not
[17:42] <shadeslayer> noren: maybe the volume is too low
[17:42] <Tm_T> computer: ok, can you please stop talking nonsense?
[17:42] <computer> ok
[17:44] <jarodco> hi
[17:45] <jarodco> jarodco
[17:45] <jarodco> #jarodco
[17:45] <Tm_T> jarodco: what you're trying to do?
[17:45] <jarodco> nothing
[17:46] <Tm_T> doesn't seem like that, son (:
[17:46] <jarodco> err
[17:46] <jillsmitt> jarodco: привет)
[17:47] <jarodco> err what
[17:47] <spot_> хех
[17:47] <tuxi> private, jarodco
[17:47] <jarodco> ok
[17:47] <jillsmitt> тут кароче типа русский канал?
[17:47] <spot_> да хз
[17:47] <jarodco> err english
[17:47] <spot_> помоиму общий
[17:47] <Tm_T> jillsmitt: please use english here, same to you spot_
[17:48] <jillsmitt> Tm_T: )) what for? all users already russain))) heh
[17:48] <spot_> I don't spek English
[17:48] <Tm_T> spot_: jillsmitt then go to russian channel, this is english channel
[17:48] <jussi01> !ru
[17:49] <spot_> !ru
[17:49] <jillsmitt> Tm_T: just kidding
[17:49] <jussi01> spot_: type: /joun #ubuntu-ru
[17:49] <jussi01> spot_: type: /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:49] <Tm_T> jillsmitt: I'm not (:
[17:49] <BluesKaj> !ru | jillsmitt
[17:49] <BluesKaj> oops :)
[17:49] <jillsmitt> Tm_T: relax i am not a terrorist
[17:50] <jarodco> hi
[17:50] <spot_> jussi01 thanks
[17:50] <tzanger> good afternoon
[17:51] <jarodco> ÿÔúûñ
[17:51] <Tm_T> tzanger: good evening
[17:51] <jussi01> spot_: yw
[17:51] <BluesKaj> jillsmitt, we don't tell ppl to "relax"..do you have a question ?
[17:51] <tzanger> I have a usb key with the intrepid amd64 iso, syslinux'd and all... it's *definitely* the amd64 kernel running (uname -a) ... the installer tries to mount the iso, succeeds, but fails copying files over for install... can anyone help me iwth why?
[17:52] <tzanger> there is no error shown, and if I flip over to a console, uname -a shows I'm running a 64-bit kernel, and also shows that /cdrom is mounted
[17:52] <jarodco> Try cut it
[17:52] <Tm_T> jarodco: please stop with nonsense
[17:52] <jarodco> ok
[17:52] <jillsmitt> BluesKaj: usb-disk 1Gib... not works on kubuntu804 on 2.6.24 but works on 2.6.26... i need to fix it in 2.6.24
[17:53] <jarodco> i will leave
[17:53] <jillsmitt> BluesKaj: only dmesg shows http://konqueror.kde.org/download
[17:53] <jillsmitt> BluesKaj: ohh
[17:53] <jillsmitt> BluesKaj: whait a sec [ 1423.137910] usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[17:53] <jillsmitt> here dmesg
[17:53] <jarodco> cool
[17:54] <jarodco> see ya
[17:55] <tzanger> any ideas?
[17:55] <xpyman> does anyone know how to install wine 1.15 on feisty ? (the latest wine in the feisty repository is 1.0.0)
[17:55] <DaSkreech> xpyman: Connect to the wine repo
[17:56] <DaSkreech> may break stuff but probably not
[17:56] <BluesKaj> jillsmitt, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-810-install-via-usb-creator/
[17:57] <xpyman> DaSkreech: to the wine 8.04 repository ?
[17:58] <DaSkreech> winehq has an ubuntu repo that always has the latest files you can use that
[17:58] <DaSkreech> go to #winehq to ask them about it
[17:59] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: this is not the same.. i cant use USB disk... any r\w operations... no mount.. invisible in /dev
[17:59] <xpyman> DaScreech: yes, yes. But their latest release for feisty is wine 1.0.0. I tried downloading the package for hardy, but it doesn't install because of my dpkg version, i think
[17:59] <DaSkreech> jillsmitt: invisible in /dev is probably the root of all evi... I mean problems
[18:00] <DaSkreech> xpyman: I highly doubt your dpkg version can't install a deb
[18:00] <DaSkreech> Unless Wine went nuts
[18:00] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: iam root
[18:00] <xpyman> DaSkreech: wine pre-depends on dpkg (>= 1.14.12ubuntu3)  dpkg is installed, but is version 1.14.5ubuntu16.
[18:00] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: no devise in system - that is problem
[18:01] <xpyman> Daskreech: that's the error I get, when trying to install the hardy package. Unfortunately, i don't have any idea of how to fix it
[18:01] <DaSkreech> xpyman: Ha ha that's the weirdest thing I've seen. That's most liekly a packaging bug
[18:01] <DaSkreech> xpyman: You can --force
[18:01] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: 2.6.24 cant use this flash... if 2.6.26 can - how take this skill to 2.6.24?
[18:02] <Honzo> how can i install kde from svn?
[18:02] <DaSkreech> but ask in #winehq if that's intentional Ican't imagine what a bugfix release has thats so important they have to rely on it
[18:02] <DaSkreech> jillsmitt: you are saying that a new kernel can read the USB bus?
[18:03] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: yes, newer kernel can, but i need it on 2.6.24 and kde 2.5.9
[18:03] <DaSkreech> >_<
[18:03] <DaSkreech> what?
[18:03] <jillsmitt> 3.5.9*
[18:03] <DaSkreech> Was there even a KDE 2.5.9 ?
[18:03] <jillsmitt> up
[18:04] <DaSkreech> so you need either 2.6.24 and KDE 3 or 2.6.26 and KDE 4 ?
[18:04] <jillsmitt> KDE 3 = 3.5.9
[18:04] <Honzo> whay i can't run cmakekde?
[18:05] <Tm_T> hagabaka: what you are trying to do?
[18:05] <DaSkreech> what version of the kernel do you have now?
[18:05] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: 2.6.24
[18:05]  * DaSkreech feels pressured to point out that if the kernel isn't seeing the device no amount of DE swapping wil get it to work
[18:06] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech:
[18:06] <jillsmitt> Linux jillsmitt-desk 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:06] <DaSkreech> jillsmitt: Where are you getting this information from ?
[18:06] <jillsmitt> uname -a
[18:06] <jillsmitt> i type in konsole it
[18:07] <SJr|Work> Shouldn't Kubuntu 8.04 be supported longer than Kubuntu 8.10?
[18:07] <DaSkreech> jillsmitt: No I mean the KDE 3.5.9  will work with the device
[18:08] <DaSkreech> Honestly if it doesn't turn up in /dev it's not turning up anywhere
[18:08] <Tm_T> SJr|Work: no, Kubuntu 8.04 has normal support period, Ubuntu 8.04 is LTS but Kubuntu isn't
[18:08] <DaSkreech> SJr|Work: no
[18:08] <SJr|Work> I thought the only difference between them was the kubuntu-desktop package?
[18:08] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: okay what can i do then... any constructive ideas?
[18:08] <DaSkreech> Canonical said that they would not make Kubuntu 8.04 a LTS release
[18:08] <SJr|Work> that's lame
[18:08] <xpyman> DaSkreech: ok, I'll ask them at winehq, thanks for the help ! forcing it didn't work at all :/
[18:09] <Tm_T> SJr|Work: that's the difference yes, and KDE parts aren't LTS
[18:09] <DaSkreech> Indeed please take it up with canonical
[18:09] <Tm_T> SJr|Work: but everything shared with Ubuntu is LTS
[18:09] <SJr|Work> Ah
[18:09] <SJr|Work> Hmmmm DaSkreech it turns out that the graphics corruption I Was experiancing was a result of using WINE
[18:09] <SJr|Work> well specifically cross over office
[18:10] <Laeborg> any programs like SAM Broadcast for linux?
[18:10] <venik> my 64 bit kubuntu is badly damaged-- The windows lost their title bar, the keyboard functions only in some applications, etc.
[18:10] <venik> I have re-installed kde, but that did not help
[18:10] <venik> what do I do?
[18:11] <venik> version 8.10
[18:11] <venik> I tried to fix it through the recovery console, but failed
[18:11] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: what Kubuntu 810s support-off date?
[18:12] <venik> I renamed .kde to .kde-old, but that did not help either
[18:12] <venik> this happened while I tried to remove strigi, and adept asked me to turn off the x server
[18:13] <venik> I had to reboot, and then found myself it his mess
[18:13] <DaSkreech> !ibex
[18:13] <Tm_T> venik: have you reinstalled kubuntu-desktop package?
[18:13] <DaSkreech> SJr|Work: ok
[18:13] <DaSkreech> venik: run kwin &
[18:14] <Laeborg> any programs like SAM Broadcast for linux?
[18:14] <DaSkreech> What's SAM broadcast?
[18:14] <DaSkreech>  A way to set of lots of SAM sites at once ?
[18:14] <DaSkreech> off
[18:14] <venik> how do I reinstall kubuntu-desktop?  I shall have to do it from the konsole
[18:15] <Tm_T> venik: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:15] <Tm_T> "
[18:15] <scottp> sam --broadcast -target=moscow
[18:15] <venik> thanks-- I shall try that
[18:15] <Tm_T> scottp: no moscow thank you
[18:15] <scottp> lol
[18:17] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: 804?
[18:18] <DaSkreech> jillsmitt: 6 months before that
[18:18] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: too close to home?
[18:18] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: 810 to x.10.2010? right?
[18:19] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: way too close in case of war, they came over once, they will do it twice
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Longer than that it's 18 months of support
[18:19] <tzanger> hmm
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Maybe they will just pass through
[18:19] <tzanger> this intrepid desktop amd64 iso isn't liked by either the debian lenny amd64 installer nor ubuntu's amd64 installer
[18:19] <tzanger> the iso is fine (not corrupted) though
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Oh good grief
[18:20] <DaSkreech> The Karmic?
[18:20] <jussi01> !9.10
[18:20]  * DaSkreech is glad he's started calling relelases by the animal
[18:20] <SJr|Work> lame!
[18:20] <jussi01> and now back to support :D
[18:21] <DaSkreech> jussi01: Ha beat you to it :)
[18:21] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: can i upgrade my kernel (kub804) to 2.6.26 by adept(apt,aptitude,..)?
[18:22] <DaSkreech> jillsmitt: in general yes. It's not easy though
[18:23] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: why?
[18:23] <tzanger> are there any known problems using the amd64 intrepid desktop iso on a usb key with the amd64 hd-media vmlinuz/initrd
[18:23] <DaSkreech> Cause they are not provided for 8.04 you would have to get the deb for ibex and install it manually I think
[18:25] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: is u will find it - there is no kernek pack on 810Cd
[18:27] <venik> I tried that, but got "segmentation error"
[18:27] <DaSkreech> jillsmitt: go to packages.ubuntu.com
[18:27] <venik> I am where I was b4
[18:28] <Laeborg> any dj programs to linux, where i can stream live to a shoutcast server?
[18:28] <venik> the windows even lost the bottom right grab-me thingie
[18:29] <venik> so I cannot move them or resize them
[18:29] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: i need to download kernel pack and install it manually.. right?
[18:29] <DaSkreech> Yes
[18:29] <DaSkreech> That or compile it yourself
[18:29] <venik> I suspect the video driver... can someone remind me how to install the infamous nVidia driver?
[18:30] <venik> version 1.80
[18:30] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: how stable it will?
[18:30] <fosco__> venik, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-180
[18:30] <DaSkreech> pretty stable
[18:30] <venik> is this gtx-180?
[18:30] <Tm_T> glx
[18:31] <venik> ok
[18:31] <DaSkreech> Linux is built in stacks so you can rip out the kernel and drop in a new one and most stuff won't break
[18:33] <venik> what does "segmentation error" indicate?
[18:33] <fosco__> venik, undefined software crash
[18:34] <fosco__> bum!
[18:35] <venik> ok-- reinstalling the driver did not help
[18:35] <venik> I am in deep dudu here
[18:35] <sagarp> i'm on ubuntu with an nvidia geforce 8600 gt video card, and using kde 4.2 from the intrepid PPA...kde crashes for me at various times, such as when i click a menu bar item...how should i report or search for this bug?
[18:40] <Laeborg> uhm now my kde menu doesnt working
[18:40] <Laeborg> when i go to the Applications tab, its just blank
[18:41] <DaSkreech> Laeborg: what did you do?
[18:43] <Laeborg> DaSkreech: just moved some programs from Lost & Found to Graphics
[18:44] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: in sudo lsusb -v --> Port 7: 0000.0501 highspeed power connect
[18:44] <jillsmitt> its here i think
[18:44] <jillsmitt> do not nessesary kernel update
[18:44] <DaSkreech> does it turn up in lspci ?
[18:45] <RaW[b33f]> Now that /etc/X11/xorg.conf has nothing in it, how can I find out what my mouse mapping is?
[18:45] <DaSkreech> Having nothing in the xorg.conf is bad
[18:46] <RaW[b33f]> moreover - if I put a section in there to remap my mouse will it take?
[18:46] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: we was talk about ubuntu release or kubuntu... how mach time i have on kubuntu804?
[18:46] <DaSkreech> 18 months
[18:47] <jillsmitt> DaSkreech: i dont know about lspci
[18:47] <DaSkreech> pl
[18:47] <DaSkreech> ok
[18:47] <Tm_T> jillsmitt: 10 months spent, so 8 months left
[18:47] <Laeborg> just restartet x, and its working now
[18:48] <RaW[b33f]> I honestly am astounded that all of the config has been moved out of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:49] <Tm_T> RaW[b33f]: by default, they are "sensed"
[18:49] <Tm_T> RaW[b33f]: but you can set and keep settings there if you like
[18:50] <RaW[b33f]> +Tm_T: They will keep if I create a whole new section?
[18:50] <Tm_T> sure
[18:51] <RaW[b33f]> hmm....leads me back to the question then - how do I find out what my mouse mapping is then?
[18:51] <Tm_T> RaW[b33f]: /var/log/Xorg.0.log holds the information
[18:51] <RaW[b33f]> I would hate to go at this many buttons in a trial and error sort of way when all I want to do is swap two buttons
[18:52] <idlerevolution> Anyone here currently at SCALE 7x?
[18:54] <RaW[b33f]> Tm_T you are a lifesaver - no check that - a Sanity Saver :)
[18:54] <cumulus007> message to all kubuntu developers:
[18:54] <SJr|Work> I'm listening
[18:54] <cumulus007> you have made a great job on kubuntu 9.04
[18:55] <cumulus007> it's absolutely more polished than previous versions
[18:55] <SJr|Work> Thank you, but I'm not really a kubuntu developer, I just play one on tv.
[18:55] <cumulus007> KPackageKit is awesome
[18:55] <cumulus007> lol :P
[18:55] <Tm_T> cumulus007: thanks (:
[18:55] <cumulus007> the quickaccess-plasmoid is back
[18:57] <cumulus007> In the future, KDE is going to use PolicyKit
[18:57] <cumulus007> it's already working, I downloaded the sources and compiled it
[18:57] <cumulus007> are there plans to give all KDE tools of Ubuntu PolicyKit support, like in their GNOME equivalents?
[18:57] <DaSkreech> cumulus007: That's always the plan
[18:58] <cumulus007> great
[18:58] <cumulus007> PolicyKit is something that is really missing in KDE
[18:58] <cumulus007> hmm
[18:58] <DaSkreech> It's getting there there are a few projects working on integrating it
[18:58] <cumulus007> I can't get KPackageKit to update
[18:59] <cumulus007> it says: Authentication failed
[18:59] <cumulus007> DarkriftX: okay
[18:59] <cumulus007> I know about KPolicyKit
[18:59] <cumulus007> erhm, wrong person :P
[18:59] <cumulus007> I mean DaSkreech
[19:00] <skfunnyboy> hey what is the time to receive ubuntu cd via shipit ? i wait from december 200
[19:00] <skfunnyboy> 2008
[19:01] <cumulus007> skfunnyboy: that's very long
[19:01] <cumulus007> in most cases, you have to wait 4 weeks until it arrives
[19:01] <DaSkreech> skfunnyboy: A while They have a LOT of requests
[19:01] <skfunnyboy> 2 cd only
[19:02] <cumulus007> check the status of your order, at shipit.launchpad.net
[19:04] <skfunnyboy> it say cannot find server !!
[19:04] <skfunnyboy> the website dont work
[19:04] <cumulus007> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[19:04] <cumulus007> it's url has been changed since the last time I used it
[19:05] <skfunnyboy> ok
[19:07] <Unknown33881> does kubuntu 8.10 come with kde4?
[19:07] <fosco__> Unknown33881, yes
[19:07] <skfunnyboy> its writted for the delivrer please allow 4 -6 weeks
[19:08] <Unknown33881> is it stable enough to use?
[19:08] <Unknown33881> when it came out i tried it, it was horrible
[19:08] <fosco__> Unknown33881, it depends on your needings
[19:08] <Unknown33881> im not even sure why the devs released when they did
[19:08] <cumulus007> 4.0 is nothing but epic pain
[19:08] <Unknown33881> ^
[19:08] <fosco__> new kde4.2 is much more stable and complete
[19:08] <cumulus007> 4.1 is more usable
[19:08] <cumulus007> 4.2 just rocks
[19:08] <Xenos> 4.2 would've rocked if it was actually out of beta
[19:09] <cumulus007> it is
[19:09] <Xenos> No, they just say it is
[19:09] <DaSkreech> Xenos: It's a .0 release
[19:09] <DaSkreech> .1 and .2 will sort out issues
[19:09] <Xenos> Although admittedly I tested it running under OpenSUSE. Buggy as hell
[19:09] <fosco__> 4.2 is not beta
[19:10] <pucko-> oh the lost irony
[19:10] <cumulus007> I got problems here with kpackagekit
[19:10] <cumulus007> I can't update, I can't search in the repos
[19:10] <DaSkreech> cumulus007: #ubuntu+1
[19:12] <Unknown33881> hey whens jaunty coming out?
[19:12] <fosco__> april
[19:12] <Unknown33881> ah
[19:13] <Unknown33881> sneaky snake = 8.13?
[19:13] <cumulus007> err
[19:13] <cumulus007> no
[19:13] <cumulus007> there is no 8.13
[19:13] <Unknown33881> why not?
[19:13] <cumulus007> and there will never be one
[19:13] <Unknown33881> oh?
[19:13] <cumulus007> how did you get that nonsense?
[19:13] <Unknown33881> so it stops at jaunty or?
[19:14] <cumulus007> of course not
[19:14] <Unknown33881> so there will be a 8.13?
[19:14] <cumulus007> Ubuntu's version numbering system is quite different from others
[19:14] <Unknown33881> oh, so it skips 8.13?
[19:14] <fosco__> Unknown33881, are you joking, dont wanna waste my time
[19:14] <cumulus007> It's based on the release date
[19:14] <Unknown33881> oh
[19:14] <cumulus007> for example, 8.04 means: year 2008, mont April
[19:15] <Unknown33881> i see
[19:15] <cumulus007> 9.04 will mean: year 2009, month April
[19:15] <cumulus007> There are 2 Ubuntu releases in a year
[19:15] <cumulus007> in April, and in October
[19:15] <cumulus007> except from 6.06
[19:15] <DaSkreech> the .number is the month
[19:15] <DaSkreech> Which will never happen again
[19:15] <Unknown33881> so where do they get the names from then?
[19:16] <Unknown33881> the numbers make sense
[19:16] <Unknown33881> but the names?
[19:16] <fosco__> Ubuntu 9.10 Is The Karmic Koala
[19:16] <Unknown33881> lol
[19:16] <cumulus007> they are all nonsense names XD
[19:16] <fosco__> names are community selected
[19:16] <Unknown33881> says a bit about the community :P
[19:16] <cumulus007> yes, I admit, I'm just stupid
[19:16] <DaSkreech> names are not community selected
[19:16] <Unknown33881> who selects them?
[19:16] <cumulus007> you can suggest a name
[19:17] <cumulus007> Canonical
[19:17] <cumulus007> the comapny behind Ubuntu
[19:17] <DaSkreech> The Dictator
[19:17] <cumulus007> *company
[19:17] <cumulus007> sssh, DarkriftX
[19:17] <cumulus007> aargh
[19:17] <cumulus007> again
[19:17] <cumulus007> DaSkreech:
[19:17] <DaSkreech> Actaully they don't even select it
[19:17] <Unknown33881> The Dictator, that would be a good release name tbh
[19:17] <cumulus007> Dumb Dictator, good one for 10.04 ^^
[19:17] <Unknown33881> Ubuntu 10.04 "The Dictator"
[19:17] <Unknown33881> sounds badass
[19:18] <fosco__> !ot
[19:18] <cumulus007> I know, shame shame etc.
[19:18] <DaSkreech> cumulus007: Not happeneing the names are alphabetical
[19:18] <DaSkreech> Unknown33881: Any actual support questions ?
[19:18] <cumulus007> hmmm
[19:19] <skfunnyboy> anybody kno where i can get old release from ubuntu ?
[19:19] <cumulus007> yes
[19:19] <i3ooi3oo> what version ?
[19:19] <cumulus007> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[19:19] <skfunnyboy> the first
[19:20] <i3ooi3oo> why ?
[19:20] <skfunnyboy> to see how it made
[19:20] <cumulus007> because it's very nostalgic
[19:21] <ubuntu__> cool.
[19:21] <DarkriftX> ack, attack of the tabbers
[19:21] <DaSkreech> skfunnyboy: It's made pretty much the same way now
[19:21] <skfunnyboy> ok
[19:22] <DaSkreech> Pull a bunch of files from debian stick in canonical looks tweak some stuff to work with canonical tools ship
[19:22] <fosco__> first is Ubuntu 4.10 Warty Warthog
[19:22] <fosco__> (i think)
[19:22] <skfunnyboy> yea
[19:22] <DaSkreech> Yep
[19:23] <hearts> so uh
[19:23] <hearts> you guys like using ubuntu
[19:24] <skfunnyboy> what cool with ubunt its never lag with old pc ( 400 MHz)
[19:24] <hearts> damn
[19:24] <hearts> if you're running a 400mhz you outta style boss.
[19:24] <DaSkreech> hearts: Yes kubuntu is pretty nice.
[19:24] <hearts> =P
[19:24] <DaSkreech> hearts: Not if you have enough RAm
[19:24] <hearts> lol
[19:24] <hearts> how much ram
[19:24] <hearts> 32 mb
[19:25] <skfunnyboy> 192
[19:25] <hearts> 192 gigs?
[19:25] <DaSkreech> I was going to go with 280 but you can do 192 as well
[19:25] <skfunnyboy> 192 mb !!
[19:25] <hearts> dude thats low.
[19:25] <hearts> lol
[19:25] <hearts> im using 4 gigs right now, and im still pissed
[19:26] <skfunnyboy> lol
[19:26] <hearts> im trying to see how much it'll cost to get 16 gigs
[19:26] <skfunnyboy> lol
[19:26] <DaSkreech> What are you doing?
[19:26] <hearts> me?
[19:26] <hearts> nothing i just hate the slightest of lags.
[19:27] <FFForever> how do i destroy ubuntu and just leave kubuntu ;-)
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> !purekde
[19:27] <DaSkreech> Ha ha In that case RAM is probably not your major concern
[19:27] <DaSkreech> !purekde
[19:27] <hearts> how so?
[19:27] <DaSkreech> damn
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> DaSkreech: lol
[19:27] <hearts> im on core i7 dude.
[19:27] <FFForever> how do i fix my mute button?
[19:27] <DaSkreech> hearts: your FSB speeds would need tweaking
[19:27] <hearts> i dont think my processors the issue
[19:27] <skfunnyboy> am on ibm p2 400 mhz
[19:28] <hearts> lol.
[19:28] <skfunnyboy> intel
[19:28] <FFForever> (on my media keys the mute/play-pause/next/back do not work) =(
[19:28] <skfunnyboy> i dont love amd
[19:28] <hearts> i dont overclock
[19:28] <DaSkreech> Processors are generally faster than anything you throw at it LOTS of RAM only gives you storage space
[19:28] <hearts> :L
[19:28] <DaSkreech> You need to get the Lots of data to the Processor
[19:28] <hearts> i dont know man
[19:28] <DaSkreech> That's where the slow down will occur
[19:29] <DaSkreech> But that's a discussion for ##hardware or #phoronix
[19:29] <FFForever> this does not seem right =\, Removing libartsc0 ... Removing ubuntu-desktop ...
[19:29] <hearts> im telling you right now the only slight issue i have with my pc is running ubuntu on virtualbox over vista
[19:29] <FFForever> thats all it removed =\
[19:29] <hearts> just doing that uses 3gigs.
[19:29] <hearts> :/
[19:29] <skfunnyboy> what is the difference between ubuntu , kubuntu and edubuntu
[19:29] <FFForever> gnome =P
[19:30] <fosco__> skfunnyboy, you can use google for those generic questions
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> edubuntu is Ubuntu along with various educational software
[19:30] <FFForever> anyways... purekde didn't work lol
[19:30] <hearts> i just installed kde on ubuntu
[19:30] <hearts> no biggie :/
[19:30] <DaSkreech> hearts: Oh then duh :-P
[19:31] <DaSkreech> skfunnyboy: The focus of the desktop
[19:31] <FFForever> can i get a ubuntu-desktop dep list for 9.04? (on the ones i can remove)
[19:31] <DaSkreech> !ubuntu > skfunnyboy
[19:31] <DaSkreech> !kubuntu > skfunnyboy
[19:31] <DaSkreech> !edubuntu > skfunnyboy
[19:31] <FFForever> =P
[19:31] <hearts> duh on what?
[19:31] <hearts> :/
[19:31] <DaSkreech> FFForever: not till it comes out
[19:32] <FFForever> DaSkreech, what about 8.10 they should be nearly the same =)
[19:32] <DaSkreech> hearts: if you are running a OS on a VM on a resource hungry OS then you are going to get lag
[19:32] <DaSkreech> FFForever: Nearly
[19:32] <hearts> lol
[19:32] <hearts> vista isnt resource hungry.
[19:32] <hearts> i mean, it didnt work on my p4
[19:32] <FFForever> vista is vista....
[19:32] <hearts> but thats not the point... lol
[19:32] <FFForever> kinda why i made to move 2 linux vista sent me here =D
[19:33] <FFForever> how do i change my default browser to firefox?
[19:33] <hearts> eh
[19:33] <hearts> vista will be a good os in like a year or so
[19:33] <hearts> sorry, a great* os.
[19:33] <hearts> it needs a service pack or two more.
[19:34] <hearts> i like it, even though the new start menu is lame
[19:34] <FFForever> yeah no one will be able 2 forget it like george w. bush
[19:34] <hearts> i couldnt stand running ubuntu as my only os
[19:34] <DaSkreech> !default
[19:35] <hearts> its really not that great.
[19:36] <DaSkreech> hearts: Doesn't have to be :)
[19:36] <DaSkreech> If you don't like that's fine
[19:43] <RaW[b33f]> hmm.... How would I post an idea to ubuntu devs?
[19:44] <cumulus007> RaW[b33f]: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[19:44] <RaW[b33f]> ty
[19:45] <navetz> is anyone else running into an issue with pidgin where you cant recieve files from people using the new msn client?
[19:45] <cumulus007> yes
[19:52] <DaSkreech> navetz: MSN and Yahoo change stuff internally quite often most of the time just to break external clients
[19:52] <DaSkreech> Login, Webcam, Message passing, File transfers etc
[19:52] <DaSkreech> They get money from the advertising on the official clients
[19:53] <Xenos> I think when we get facebook support on Pidgin that's going to go a long way to converting a lot of MSN users
[19:53] <Xenos> Because for the first time a lot of them will suddenly be in the position of wanting/needing two chat clients
[19:55] <Duesentrieb> to repost a question i posted a few hours ago: since an update a few days ago, kmenu now longer offers the option to suspend or hibernate. how do i fix this? power management seems to work fine when invoked explicitly.
[19:55] <Duesentrieb>  http://forum.kde.org/how-does-hibernate-suspend-options-work-kde4-t-18837.html seems related
[19:55] <Duesentrieb> is it possible that said kubuntu patch got borke?
[20:04] <ober_> hola
[20:06] <h1nsmann> nnh
[20:09] <X9nLinux9> for any PowerMac users here... During install (of Feisty on an old G4) is the white screen on startup an indicator of a bad startup CD?
[20:13] <Kbeville> hi ppl need to know how to make my ktorrent the default
[20:14] <bobek> What is irc adres for Polish Ubuntu?
[20:14] <bobek> users
[20:14] <yao_ziyuan> i ruined the slim glow plasma theme
[20:14] <yao_ziyuan> which package should i reinstall to repair it?
[20:14] <Kbeville> hi ppl need to know how to make my ktorrent the default torrent
[20:14] <venik> do I really have to reinstall kubuntu to revive it?
[20:14] <Kbeville> client
[20:15] <venik> I have reinstalled the desktop, kde, xserver
[20:15] <genii> bobek: #ubuntu-pl
[20:15] <Kbeville> hi ppl need to know how to make my ktorrent the default client................................................................................
[20:16] <venik> is tehre any diagnostic that I could run to at least tell me what is wrong?  The keyboard works only in some applications, the windows lost their title bar and resizing corner....
[20:17] <bobek> How to make destktom size more than 800x600 ?
[20:17] <bobek> desktop*
[20:18] <cumulus007> bobek: by installing your video card driver
[20:19] <bobek> how I can do It?
[20:20] <bobek> sudo apt-get install ....?
[20:20] <Exilant> Hi, how can i display sth. else on two monitors? (gui solution), krandrtray can set up some things like rotating one monitor, but how would i exec program a on screen a and program b on screen b or sth. lke that?
[20:23] <BattleStarJesus> Have any of you know the channel forUbuntu studio?
[20:24] <Pici> BattleStarJesus: Oddly enough, its #ubuntustudio
[20:28] <sagarp> i'm using 4.2....kde crashes at various times, such as when i click on a menu bar item...how should i go about searching for or reporting this bug? i'm not sure what logs to view, etc
[20:39] <DaSkreech> sagarp: look at Xorg logs
[20:39] <DaSkreech> also plasma run from a konsole can help
[20:39] <DaSkreech> venik: you need a window manager
[20:40] <DaSkreech> !default | Kbeville
[20:40] <yaa_> dynja
[20:40] <DaSkreech> !pl
[20:40] <DaSkreech> !hi | ober_
[20:40] <yaa_> pollack idi domoi
[20:40] <sagarp> i can't run plasma from a konsole because when kde crashes, the konsole is gone too
[20:40] <DaSkreech> Xenos: Pidign supports facebook
[20:41] <a_c_m1>  I'm missing Katapult in KDE4, i hear there is something called Krunner, but cant seem to find an package for it (Kubuntu 8.10) anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[20:41] <Exposure> i ran dist-upgrade and it broke kdm :(
[20:41] <Exposure> (intrepid)
[20:45] <DaSkreech> yaa_: Which language?
[20:46] <DaSkreech> a_c_m1: Press alt+F2
[20:46] <DaSkreech> Exposure: how?
[20:46] <yaa_> chukcha's
[20:46] <Exilant> a_c_m1: plasma-widget-runcommand might be it
[20:46] <yaa_> daskreech
[20:46] <DaSkreech> actaully there should be a krunner package
[20:46] <a_c_m> DaSkreech: yeah, someone else said that, nothing happens, running krunner from the command line pops it up though
[20:46] <DaSkreech> yaa_: chukcha ?
[20:46] <yaa_> yes
[20:47] <DaSkreech> ok
[20:47] <DaSkreech> which country? :)
[20:47]  * tuxi has krunner
[20:47] <Exposure> DaSkreech: didn't do anything unusual, except when it asked me to stop kdm I skipped that since i was running dist-upgrade from an X terminal
[20:47] <yaa_> aleut islands
[20:47] <DaSkreech> a_c_m: after it runs the first time it should be accessible by alt+F2
[20:47] <DaSkreech> yaa_: Hmm i don't know we have a chan for that. Is English alright for you to speak ?
[20:47] <yaa_> which channel is for chukchas
[20:47] <ajunta> Hi! Tell please how  to know what video driver is in use now?
[20:48] <yaa_> not very well
[20:48] <DaSkreech> Exposure: Ah cute. Well stop X then run it from a command line then start X again
[20:48] <Exposure> DaSkreech: that's the problem, when I run it from commandline it has unmet dependencie
[20:48] <Exposure> s
[20:48] <DaSkreech> Which are?
[20:49] <Exposure> kdebase-runtim, libkdecorations4, libkwineffects1
[20:49] <DaSkreech> yaa_: Which languages are you comfortable with?
[20:49] <DaSkreech> chukcha and english?
[20:50] <DaSkreech> Exposure: install those first
[20:50] <yaa_> chukcha and english but not well enough
[20:50] <DaSkreech> yaa_: Ok I will try to help you in english
[20:50] <DaSkreech> what is the problem ?
[20:51] <Exposure> DaSkreech: why aren't those sorted out by apt?
[20:51] <yaa_> iptables manual please
[20:51] <DaSkreech> Exposure: can be any number of reasons but if apt has problems with dependency stuff then give it smaller chucnks to bite
[20:51] <DaSkreech> !iptables
[20:51] <yaa_> for beginners
[20:51] <tuxi> a_c_m, do you have kdeplasma-addons installed?
[20:52] <yaa_> !iptables
[20:52] <Exposure> DaSkreech: ok i'll give it a go, if there's no other way :)
[20:52] <DaSkreech> yaa_: also in konsole type man iptables
[20:52] <a_c_m> tuxi: i think so, i just went to system settings and set up a new shortcut, meta+space (as i like it better anyway)
[20:52] <DaSkreech> Exposure: It's not that hard :) just give it the ones that are dependcies then the higher ones
[20:52] <tuxi> you found something to get you krunner-like capabilities?
[20:53] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo <--- yaa_
[20:53] <gringz> !it
[20:53] <Exposure> DaSkreech: yeah seems to work fine.. I admit i'm not that experienced with apt, expected something was broken, not that it had problems finding dependencies ;)
[20:53] <yaa_> thank you//) if it is chukchas)..
[20:54] <DaSkreech> Exposure: Not finding resolving. but close enough
[20:54] <DaSkreech> The fact it cando an entire system upgrade is good enough for me to forgive it when it gets puzzled bout smaller things
[20:55] <tuxi> possible that skipping kdm config caused the issue?
[20:55] <DaSkreech> Possible
[20:55] <DaSkreech> Version mismatch
[20:55] <DaSkreech> I don't know enough to say that it is
[20:56] <Exposure> not a big problem, your're right
[20:56] <Exposure> dist-upgrade usually works excellent
[20:56] <tuxi> Exposure I use the GUI to do the equivalent of dist-upgrade and it configures kdm (or gdm, I run both Gnome and KDE) just fine
[20:59] <Exilant> can someone tell me how to find packets with adept?
[20:59] <ubuntu_> isn't there a textbox for the search?
[20:59] <Exilant> like, a "linux-image"  search returning bothing?
[21:00] <DaSkreech> Exilant: you may have to update the xapian cache The new adept has a bug where it sometimes doesn't do that
[21:00] <DaSkreech> Close adept and run from the konsole sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[21:01] <ubuntu_> you may also want to try synaptic
[21:01] <Exilant> i've tried it
[21:02] <Exilant> it seems so much better than adept
[21:02] <ubuntu_> and you don't like it?
[21:02] <ubuntu_> ah OK :-)
[21:02] <ubuntu_> I think the same
[21:02] <kieko> does linuxMCE work only in Kubuntu?
[21:02] <Exilant> right now i'm mostly using the command line, trying to avoid gtk apps
[21:03] <kieko> what is wrong with gtk apps?
[21:04] <Exilant> nothing, in general
[21:04] <DaSkreech> kieko: no ask for more help in #linuxmce They can be a bit harsh
[21:04] <DaSkreech> But in specifics I.1.a.i Article 1
[21:04] <tuxi> kieko, are you talking about the appearance of gtk apps in KDE?
[21:05] <kieko> DaSkreech, i'll tread carefully then and brace myself... thx for forwarning me
[21:06] <wildbat> any suggestion of good C/C++ IDE for kubuntu ?
[21:07] <DaSkreech> kieko: Not saying they are mean. They just don't have a Code of cinduct so if they have bad day you might know about it
[21:07] <DaSkreech> !ide
[21:09] <noren> hi all
[21:10] <DaSkreech> !hi
[21:10] <DaSkreech> yaa_: How are you doing ?
[21:10] <e-jat> how to preview 3gp in kde4.2?
[21:11] <e-jat> preview 3gp in dolphin ..
[21:11] <DaSkreech> e-jat: ask in #kde-devel ;-)
[21:11] <noren> droped in to say thanks to all the ppl who supported and aadviced me to get this kde4.2 running... will be testing his for the next couple of days
[21:11] <e-jat> DaSkreech: thanks
[21:12] <DaSkreech> noren: :-) Hope it's not as good as KDE 4.3
[21:12] <Exilant> e-jat: do you have sound with those 3gp-files?
[21:13] <e-jat> Exilant: yeah ..
[21:13] <e-jat> i can play it .. but i want to preview it in dolphin .. because in nautilus .. 3gp files can be viewed :(
[21:13] <noren> kdde 4.3 wwwwwenn did that came
[21:13] <wildbat> any suggestion of a good C/C++ IDE for kubuntu ?
[21:14] <DaSkreech> noren: in 4 months
[21:14] <DaSkreech> !ide
[21:14] <DaSkreech> wildbat: ^^^ in case you missed it
[21:15] <Exilant> wildbat: kate is really sweet if you just want the absolutely minimum that can be called "ide"
[21:15] <noren> please reeell me how to list all the available channel on this server
[21:15] <DaSkreech> noren: /list
[21:15] <DaSkreech> You probably don't want to do that there are near 7000
[21:18] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[21:18] <noren> DaSkreech: i cant install all the plassmoid widget some of them are making the kwin crash
[21:18]  * DaSkreech performs some action towards hannascott
[21:18] <DaSkreech> noren: Hmm?
[21:19]  * hannascott pokes DaSkreech
[21:19]  * DaSkreech hugs hannascott
[21:19] <noren> any llist available which arre working as of yet
[21:19] <DaSkreech> noren: Where are you installing them from?
[21:21] <wildbat> hmmm
[21:21] <wildbat> thanks
[21:22] <DaSkreech> wildbat: There is also Qtcreator or Kdevelop
[21:22] <noren> from the top righ thand corner of the desktop theres sme sayes add widget
[21:22] <DaSkreech> kate is nice if you don't really really need a full heavy IDE
[21:22] <DaSkreech> noren: ok which ones are you adding that's crashing kwin
[21:23] <wildbat> jsut need a basic ide with a debugger commandline debugger are too much pain XD
[21:23] <ActionParsnip1> !info eclipse
[21:24] <noren> now playing, comic syrip
[21:24] <noren> striip
[21:25] <wildbat> btw, anyone got freeze problem when you start PCMAN X BBS?
[21:25] <DaSkreech> now playing I've not had issues with (cause I've never even trid it)
[21:26] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip1: Do you have any even loose definition for basic IDE?
[21:26] <DaSkreech> comic strip I use everyday What happens when you add it
[21:27] <ActionParsnip1> DaSkreech: none, its not something i use. I just hear bits flying around and remember when people ask next time :)
[21:27] <ActionParsnip1> DaSkreech: i'm on xfce / fluxbox. i dont use kwin
[21:27] <ActionParsnip1> its nasty
[21:27] <DaSkreech> Eclipse is one of the heaviest IDE's that exist
[21:28]  * DaSkreech lurves kwin
[21:28] <DaSkreech> Probably not as much as flux
[21:28] <DaSkreech> but oodles more than metacity
[21:28] <DaSkreech> I'm still not sure why Gnome dropped sawfish for metacity
[21:28] <ActionParsnip1> will metacity run on kde, thatd be a hoot
[21:28] <ActionParsnip1> !info sawfish
[21:29] <ActionParsnip1> DaSkreech: use it ;)
[21:29] <DaSkreech> all of 363 kb?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip1> DaSkreech: thats the download, installed is 1Mb
[21:30] <ActionParsnip1> DaSkreech: it may  have deps
[21:32] <DaSkreech> If you count sawfish-data
[21:32] <DaSkreech> !info sawfish-data
[21:32] <tuxi> DaSkreech, does the comic plasmoid reload  (say the next day) for you?
[21:32] <DaSkreech> Yes with the next day's comic
[21:33] <tuxi> the reload icon on the resize/tools/close box?
[21:33] <tuxi> autohide plasmoid controls, that is
[21:34] <DaSkreech> tuxi: Hmm?
[21:34] <tuxi> I switch to another comic each day
[21:34] <DaSkreech> as in Garfield one day and xkcd another?
[21:35]  * ActionParsnip1 is trying sawfish
[21:35] <tuxi> or UserFriendly is up for yesterday, switch to Dilbert to see today's strip and back to UserFriendly for today's strip
[21:36] <tuxi> I'd like to be able to just refresh the strip to the lastest, didn't know if that was working for someone else
[21:39] <Dillizar> how can i make a altered version of kubuntu
[21:39] <noren> DaSkreech: i have nvidia GeForce 8600 gt << how to install appropriate driver and check if it has been installed correctly
[21:39] <Dillizar> and make it as a live cd?
[21:41] <tuxi> noren, DaSkreech has left
[21:44] <X9nLinux9> Any mac users here who installed on a G4 tower successfully?
[21:44] <noren> !nvidia
[21:45] <tuxi> should be one of the restricted drivers in use noren -- I'm looking for exactly where to find it
[21:46] <tuxi> System/Hardware Drivers on the traditional menu, noren
[21:50] <athlon1_> For patitioning disk I use gparted, from gnome. Does kubuntu have any program for disk partitioning?
[21:51] <noren> uts therrre but if a try there it freezez up and nothing hapen
[21:55] <athlon1_> Nobody can tell me any program for formatting and resizing disks like gnome, but for kde? Thanks
[21:58] <tuxi> there apparently is a kde partion manager
[21:58] <Exilant> e-jat: did you install anything special for 3gp audio?
[21:59] <jobrasil> Hi from brasil
[21:59] <tuxi> hello jobrasil
[21:59] <jobrasil> I have a possibly small network config problem - anybody here who might be able to help?
[21:59] <Exilant> i havebn't been successful there, those weird license/patent issues make that hard, with neccessary config changign every couple of months
[21:59] <athlon1_> Which patition manager for kde? What's its name?
[21:59] <e-jat> Exilant: try compile ffmpeg from svn
[22:00] <Exilant> ah, ok
[22:00] <tuxi> athlon1_ try "sudo aptitude install partitionmanager"
[22:00] <Exilant> was hoping jaunty was the first release without those self-compiled stuff
[22:00] <e-jat> Exilant: hope so
[22:00] <athlon1_> OK, i'm going to try...
[22:01] <tuxi> I'm in the process as well
[22:01] <e-jat> Exilant: same goes to kopete .. need to recompiled to fixed the YM disconnectivity
[22:02] <jobrasil> ok: this is what I know - basically ping takes very long, route is slow, route - n is fast, firefox is fast, konqueror is slow, trying to use a time server through kde4 gives a "can't connect"
[22:03] <jobrasil> what other useful information can I provide?
[22:04] <jobrasil> (hi tuxi)
[22:04] <Dillizar> i am new in kde so i want to remaster a Kubuntu
[22:04] <tuxi> jobrasil, I'm not sure how to answer
[22:04] <Dillizar> will i need to say that is kubuntu or i can put my name
[22:06] <dcorbin_work> I have a dual monitor setup with an NVIDIA card.  I just upgraded both monitors to LCDs.  If I use a direct DVI hookup, monitor #2 goes into power-save mode when I start X.  It doesn't with the VGA connection and a converter.  Any ideas on how to make this work correctly?
[22:07] <jobrasil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120747/
[22:07] <jobrasil> this is the route output
[22:08] <Exilant> dcorbin_work: well, maybe some xrandr magic
[22:08] <Exilant> possibly in the autostart or so
[22:08] <alienkid> Hi I wanted to try kubuntu so I went in to sypantic and installed it but wehn I log into it, it loads and then wehrn the harddrive icon appears the screen goes blank and I have to ctrl+bacspace what am I doing wrong?
[22:10] <Dillizar> what is the last squashfs kernel
[22:10] <jobrasil> looks like today there is no network geek available, willing to waste his time on me :(
[22:10] <jobrasil> ^^
[22:11] <tuxi> jobrasil are both the wireless and the wired connected?
[22:11] <jobrasil> no, only wireless
[22:11] <tuxi> hmm
[22:11] <tuxi> let me look at my laptop
[22:12] <tuxi> I only have the wireless interface showing when I run route on the laptop
[22:12] <jobrasil> is it fast, or does it also take a while?
[22:13] <tuxi> seems to be just fine -- no real difference between the wireless on the laptop and the wired on this machine (through common router)
[22:13] <jobrasil> anybody: I'm a fast-answering, non-stupid and grateful noob in need of help :)
[22:15] <jobrasil> tuxi, maybe you can help me by comparison - what is the last line of your resolv.conf? internal address or also an external nameserver?
[22:15] <tuxi> the last entry is an external nameserver
[22:15] <jobrasil> (it is a kubuntu 8.10 installation, isn't it?)
[22:16] <tuxi> I use OpenDNS
[22:16] <tuxi> yes both are 8.10
[22:16] <jobrasil> ah, I was already thinking it has something to do with the dns stuff...
[22:16] <tuxi> the presence of a second interface is one difference
[22:17] <jobrasil> does anybody know how to check that the resolv conf really contains what dhcp transmits?
[22:17] <jobrasil> correct me if this is wrong: knetworkmanager asks dhcp, gets the information, runs some script that writes resolv.conf
[22:18] <tuxi> normally
[22:18] <Exilant> afaik it writes to /etc/resolv.d/run/resolv.conf or so
[22:18] <Exilant> to which /etc/resolv.conf symlinks
[22:19] <tuxi> my /etc/resolv.conf is not a link
[22:19] <Exilant> hm, maybe only in jaunty
[22:19] <jobrasil> over here it's also not a link
[22:20] <tuxi> first several lines say modified by network manager
[22:20] <Exilant> but i've played around there a bit too much
[22:20] <tuxi> jobrasil, you can configure network manager to only get the IP address and hard code in the DNS info
[22:20] <jobrasil> but /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d contains the same
[22:21] <jobrasil> that sounds interesting
[22:21] <tuxi> I have no /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d
[22:23] <jobrasil> strange
[22:24] <jobrasil> it can't be too hard to trace the prob back to a certain point, especially with route not working... just don't know how :(
[22:25] <cikita> hi
[22:25] <jobrasil> but thanks anyway
[22:25] <cikita> how to change keyboar in linux??
[22:25] <cikita> from cz to english?
[22:27] <tuxi> cikita, there is a kde app that makes that easy
[22:29] <compilerwriter>  I know there has to be a command that will show me how much of my disk has been used and by what but for the life of me I am not remembering it or finding it in docs.
[22:30] <tuxi> how much as a roll-up look at df -- by directory look at du
[22:30] <scottp> compilierwriter how about du -h or df -h
[22:31] <compilerwriter> will give it a shot scottp
[22:31] <compilerwriter> it was df that I wanted scottp thanks again
[22:32] <cikita> rm -ft
[22:32] <cikita> rm -fr
[22:32] <tuxi> cikita look at /usr/share/kde4/services/keyboard_layout.desktop
[22:32] <cikita> hm?
[22:33] <scottp> yw. recommend you do not listen to cikita!
[22:38] <Laeborg> Can I do so FireFox use wget instead of the build-in download manager ?
[22:42] <DaSkreech> tuxi: That's a good point I guess if you don't turn off the computer
[22:43] <giarca> Laeborg: check this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/9323/
[22:50] <plutiara> ууууууууууууу
[22:50] <plutiara> всем доброй ночи!
[22:52] <genii> !ru | plutiara
[22:53] <plutiara> hi evrebady
[22:53] <plutiara> sory
[22:55] <bonnin> Hi!
[22:55] <DaSkreech> plutiara: no problem you can speak russian in #ubuntu-ru
[22:57] <compilerwriter> hi DaSkreech
[22:57] <DaSkreech> hi compilerwriter
[22:58] <compilerwriter> did you need something earlier in kmymoney DaSkreech?
[22:58] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: No I was just seeing how you guys were. GSoC is coming up. Would you guys like to submit any projects?
[22:58] <jobrasil> hi - does anybody know a place that is more specifically dedicated to network problems?
[22:59] <compilerwriter> GSoC? DaSkreech I have no Earthly idea what that is.
[22:59] <DaSkreech> #networking ?
[22:59] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: Google Summer Of Code
[22:59] <compilerwriter> oh.
[22:59] <DaSkreech> It's quite popular :)
[23:00] <jobrasil> DaSkreech, thx I'll try, hope they don't eat noobs
[23:00] <DaSkreech> jobrasil: That's highly unlikely to be your problem with that chan
[23:00] <compilerwriter> My involvement in kmymoney is to get help once in a while.  I try to help once in a while when I can.
[23:01] <compilerwriter> I am trying to compile the latest tarball of kmymoney.  ./configure is complaining about needing the X libs.  Do you know the name of the package of hand DaSkreech?
[23:02] <compilerwriter> ^of^off
[23:02] <DaSkreech> !info xserver-xorg-dev
[23:03] <compilerwriter> Thanks DaSkreech
[23:04] <picatchu> anyone here who knows about problems with khotkeys?
[23:06] <picatchu> i stopped working today after some upgrades in intrepid
[23:07] <Luija> mefisto
[23:07] <Luija> r u here?
[23:11] <picatchu> khotkeys problems anyone?
[23:13] <X9nLinux9> Any mac users here who installed on a G4 tower successfully?
[23:15] <Max__JP> Hello!
[23:15] <DaSkreech> picatchu: What's the problem?
[23:15] <DaSkreech> !hi | Max__JP
[23:16] <Max__JP> Is my first time with Kubuntu Linux SO
[23:16] <Max__JP> :D
[23:17] <hallowname> Max__JP: welcome to freedom. learn and love it :D
[23:18] <Max__JP> hehehe Thanks!
[23:18]  * Xenos is just happy to be free of Vista, himself
[23:18] <Max__JP> hahahaha
[23:19] <compilerwriter> DaSkreech it is saying that it can't find them even after I did the apt-get thing.  It says check your install and add the correct paths.  How in blazes would the xlibs not be in my path?
[23:19] <wildbat> freedom? where? XD
[23:19] <picatchu> dselect installed some updates today (inteprid), and since then khotkeys stopped working. systems settings says it can not connect to the shortcuts daemon (probably khotkeys, i guess). menually starting or deleting the config fies does not help. keyboard shortcuts (e.g. alt-tab) are no longer working. aynone's had similar problems?
[23:20] <DaSkreech> Max__JP: Welcome to Linux and Kubuntu!
[23:20] <picatchu> system settings says: "
[23:20] <Max__JP> :D
[23:20] <picatchu> Failed to contact the KDE global shortcuts daemon
[23:20] <picatchu> Message: No such object path '/KdedGlobalAccel'
[23:20] <picatchu> Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject
[23:20] <compilerwriter> yes welcom Max__JP
[23:20] <DaSkreech> picatchu: Look at your dpkg logs and see what changed
[23:20] <X9nLinux9> Anybody here using two monitors with Kubuntu?   I just want to know if / that it can be done before going  further.
[23:21] <DaSkreech> X9nLinux9: It can
[23:21] <DaSkreech> !dualhead
[23:21] <DaSkreech> !xinerama
[23:21] <X9nLinux9> DaSkreech: Thank you!
[23:22] <jordan_> I have a lexmark printer x7170 but I can find any drivers for it...is there another solution?
[23:22] <jordan_> can't find
[23:22] <jordan_> sorry
[23:22] <picatchu> X9nLinux: dual screen works great here with xrandr!
[23:23] <DaSkreech> !lexmark
[23:23] <ubuntu__> help!!!
[23:24] <X9nLinux9> Thank you!
[23:24] <ubuntu__> anybody can help my get my kde back
[23:24] <wildbat> anyone installed wine?
[23:24] <ubuntu__> after uprgrading xine zesterday it told me i have to stop kde and restart. since then i only get to konsole
[23:25] <ubuntu__> am now on a ubuntu live cd
[23:25] <Exilant> ubuntu__: does X startup and then kdm crashes, or no X at all?
[23:26] <X9nLinux9> picatchu: You're using two screens right now?  (What machine?)
[23:26] <X9nLinux9> and... what version are you running?
[23:27] <Guest11608> Kubuntu 8.04
[23:28] <picatchu> X9nLinux: a thinkpad - one is the built-in screen, and the other a tft connected via VGA. Running inteprid, and it pretty much worked out of the box. Screens can be configured in different ways on the fly using xrandr.
[23:29] <Exilant> i'm also running two screens, in 9.4
[23:30] <compilerwriter> !which
[23:30] <picatchu> DaSkreech: quite a few packages were upgraded, including a number of kde packages, such as: kdelibs-bin 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu2~intrepid1
[23:30] <Exilant> picatchu: one'll have to create a virtual desktop area of suffient size in xorg.conf, or is that outdated?
[23:30] <Exilant> (for non-clone)
[23:30] <compilerwriter> !whence
[23:30] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: Hello?
[23:31] <ubuntu__> Exilant  ok, wen i swtich on i get kubuntu logo and the progress bar. then I end up on a black screen telling kinit no resumeimage found. doing normal boot. login ntp stopping          ntp starting            there i enter mz user name then pw. startx brings a blue screen with the following error message. /home/user/xsession does not exist  /home/user/Xsession does not ecist.  No session manager found. No window manager found. no termin
[23:31] <ubuntu__> al emulators found.
[23:31] <DaSkreech> picatchu: Was khotkeys updated?
[23:31] <ubuntu__> DaSkrecche  Hi!  Problem still not solved.
[23:32] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: you are on the machine now?
[23:32] <picatchu> Exilant: when I choose a certain resolution for one of the outputs, the other is automatically adjusted, so no need to set a virtual desktop. Not sure how this works if you want two screens next to each other however...
[23:33] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech on the machine yes, but with live cd, as Konversation doesnt start from konsole
[23:34] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: try xorg-dev
[23:34] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech Exilant>   sudo apt-get install kubuntu=desktop  shows all packages like okular and konqueror but sazs it doesnt install them. and then says> E  broken packages
[23:34] <compilerwriter> Thanks Daskreech
[23:34] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: ok open a konsole and mount your hard drive
[23:35] <ubuntu__> ok
[23:35] <ubuntu__> done
[23:35] <picatchu> DaSkreech: there is no such package, it's in kde-workspace-data... which was not upgraded...
[23:36] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: do a sudo chroot /path/to/mountpoint
[23:36] <DaSkreech> picatchu: Maybe upgrage that then ?
[23:37] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech> done
[23:37] <picatchu> DaSkreech: no upgrade... I just thought others may have had the same problem, since it seems related to today's upgrades. But, as nobody else seems to complain, it may be specific to my setup... wait and see, I guess, not idea what else to do.
[23:40] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: What does sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop say
[23:41] <DaSkreech> picatchu: Ok you may want to step into #kubuntu-devel and let them know as well
[23:41] <luc_> lol, i`m very new at kubuntu, but i have a folder that is locked. How can i open this folder?
[23:41] <DaSkreech> May be an oversight of packaging or a known bug that will get fixed soon
[23:41] <DaSkreech> luc_: Which folder ?
[23:42] <luc_> cstrike, wannnnnnna try to run a dedicated server
[23:42] <luc_> just installed it from manual on internet
[23:42] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech it shows all packages recommended and says thez shall not be installed. finally it states> E   broken packages
[23:42] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: You should be inside your broken install with the chroot btw ubuntu__
[23:42] <picatchu> DaSkreech: good point, thanks!
[23:42] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: can You pastebin that entire error?
[23:42] <DaSkreech> !paste | ubuntu__
[23:43] <DaSkreech> luc_: Who owns the directory ?
[23:43] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech its German
[23:43] <luc_> the root i think, let me cheeeeeeeeck
[23:43] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: I'll probably survive
[23:46] <jillsmitt> hi, problem with icons in tray. they are disappearing
[23:46] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech>  it was in German when i tried it  before. seems now it|s english    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120787/
[23:47] <luc_> lol, remote deskttop from K has some delay
[23:48] <luc_> Owner is root
[23:48] <DaSkreech> luc_: That's the problem. Who should own the directory? check the docs
[23:48] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: What does sudo apt-get update say ?
[23:48] <luc_> i`m just trying to find out how to use the sudo orrr dkesudoo to open it
[23:51] <luc_> i have i know it`s something                         with permissions, bbbbut how do i change it`s owneeeeeeeeer
[23:51] <ubuntu__> DaSkreech   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120790/
[23:52] <DaSkreech> luc_: First lets find out if you can change it;s owner and it will work. look at the docs and see if they say it has to be owned by a special user
[23:54] <luc_> at the ownership group and   user are root
[23:59] <DaSkreech> luc_: yes I get that are they suppsoed to be root? Look at the documentation for the CS server
[23:59] <DaSkreech> ubuntu__: That looks like a problem can You ping security.ubuntu.com ?