[01:07] <ojwb> is the "Estimated build start" time in the PPA rather unreliable?
[01:07]  * ojwb has a build which was reporting 30-60 minutes for a while, and now seems to be perpetually "in 1 hour"
[01:10] <ojwb> (queued 16 hours ago btw)
[01:22] <MTecknology> is launchpad down?
[01:22] <lifeless> the ponoko stuff?
[01:23] <MTecknology> just launchpad.net
[01:24] <ojwb> no
[01:24] <MTecknology> hrm
[01:25] <MTecknology> ojwb: could you tell me how long I've been a member of the ~loco-drupal-dev team?
[01:25] <MTecknology> nope - I'm there
[01:25] <ojwb> you can see it now?
[01:25] <MTecknology> ya
[01:26] <lifeless> MTecknology: sorry, ECHANNEL for my comment
[01:39] <MTecknology> odd - it looks like some of my karma dropped
[01:40] <MTecknology> musta been last years work that dropped off
[01:47] <MTecknology> kiko-afk: ping
[02:39] <mrooney> What is the easiest way to build and upload my source, if debian/ is maintained there as well?
[02:39] <mrooney> It seems like it should be a one or two liner but I am not finding anything online at first glance
[02:41] <mrooney> and by upload I mean to a PPA
[02:46] <mwhudson> mrooney: there's something called autoppa
[02:47] <mrooney> mwhudson: that sounds fun and exciting, let me look it up!
[02:52] <mrooney> mwhudson: so at the end it says it opens up an editor for the changes, what changes would that be? Aren't they already in debian/changelog?
[02:53] <mwhudson> mrooney: i don't know anything more about autoppa than the name, sorry
[02:54] <mrooney> ah okay, thanks :)
[08:13] <ne1uno> launchpad.net search has no buttons? is that a design decision?
[08:15] <ne1uno> anti mouse?
[09:30] <kiko-afk> MTecknology, yo
[09:32] <mpt> wgrant, I was growling more at the bug's existence, not the bug report's :-)
[09:35] <wgrant> mpt: Ah, good.
[09:35]  * wgrant phews.
[09:36]  * wgrant phews.
[09:37]  * wgrant curses KDE4 a bit.
[09:39] <mpt> If your IRC client used a slightly darker background for the channel transcript whenever you're not scrolled to the bottom, that would pretty much prevent that problem
[09:41] <wgrant> mpt: No, that was an "I'm going to pretend that I'm ignoring your keypresses for a while because you unplugged the power, then switch windows a bit and misinterpret them" bug.
[09:44] <mpt> ah, I have that problem in other OSes
[09:52] <mpt> "The tag notify-osd hasn't been used by pidgin-libnotify (Ubuntu) before. Is this a new tag?" ... I want a "No, it's not a new tag, I've been using it for several other packages in Ubuntu already" button
[11:24] <mpt> oh, the accept button is *above* the cancel button now? that's new
[11:24] <mpt> hm, maybe that's just for long bug titles
[11:25] <beuno> mpt, that sounds like a bug
[11:25] <beuno> I can asure you it's far from intentional  :)
[11:53] <juanje> hi guys, may I ask you a question about the new bug tracking registration?
[11:55] <juanje> I'm working at Guadalinex distro (an Ubuntu derivated distro) and we have mantis for the bug tracking. We have a lot of users and they apply the bugs there.
[11:55] <beuno> juanje, sure
[11:56] <juanje> I already added the mantis to the launchpad, but I don't see any bugs and I don't know if I have to do someting else (create a lp user in aour mantis, contect with specific product, or something)
[11:56] <juanje> beuno: thanks :-)
[11:56] <beuno> juanje, what is it you want to do?
[11:57] <beuno> get all bugs synced between projects?
[11:57] <juanje> at least a way to see the bug from lp and be able to connect as upstream
[11:58] <beuno> juanje, so you want to see the mantis bugs in launchpad, or the launchpad bugs in mantis?
[11:58]  * beuno pokes gmb 
[11:58] <juanje> matis bugs in lp
[11:59] <gmb> wsfgn
[11:59]  * gmb reads scrollback
[11:59] <beuno> juanje, I *think* that if you want that to happen automatically, you need a plugin,
[11:59] <beuno> but gmb will know more about this, he's our resident expert
[12:00] <juanje> beuno: :-) interesting
[12:01] <gmb> juanje: So, at the moment Launchpad can't automatically pull bugs in from Mantis.
[12:01] <gmb> We can sync statuses with remote bugs if you create a bug watch against an upstream bug.
[12:01] <gmb> But nothing more than that.
[12:01] <juanje> gmb: a bug watch?
[12:02] <juanje> ummm
[12:02] <gmb> juanje: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BugWatches
[12:02] <juanje> gmb: But I did create a bug tracker for mantis on launchpad. What is that for?
[12:03] <juanje> I thoung it was for that
[12:03] <gmb> juanje: You having done that allows people to link to bugs on that bug tracker.
[12:03] <juanje> ohhhhhh
[12:03] <gmb> juanje: But at the moment our support for Mantis is limited.
[12:03] <juanje> ok
[12:04] <juanje> well, I think is enough by now
[12:04] <gmb> Ok.
[12:05] <juanje> gmb: it could be nice to see the bugs from the mantis, but I guess this is enough to connect the ubuntu bugs and guadalinex bugs and fix for both
[12:05] <juanje> gmb, beuno: thanks :-)
[12:06] <gmb> juanje: np. Yes, that would be nice. Unfortunately at the moment there's no way for us to import the bugs from a Mantis instance without potentially DoSing the Mantis instance.
[12:06] <beuno> juanje, of course, you guys are more than welcome to use launchpad as your bug tracker  ;)
[12:09] <juanje> beuno: actually we're going to use the launchpad bug tracker (and more lp stuff) for the development itself, but the mantis is more for the users (which usually are no technical people and doesn't know English) and we can't leave
[12:10] <juanje> btw, we are moving a lot of things to launchpad because we like to collaborate more with Ubuntu and be closer to the development
[12:11] <beuno> juanje, that sounds great. Please let us know if we can help with anything
[12:11] <juanje> but we depend to the government (this is a gorvernment distro and for a lot of users, schools, libraries and so on) so we can't do whatever we want and like
[12:11] <juanje> beuno:  actually, we need to know the better way to do that
[12:12] <juanje> we already ask for a distro registration
[12:12] <juanje> and we have created team for members and drivers
[12:12] <juanje> and we have started to move some project from the gforge to the launchpad
[12:12] <juanje> and from svn to bazaar
[12:13] <juanje> we like to do the better we can, so the improvements can get to upstream (you ;-) ) easily
[12:13] <beuno> juanje, feel free to shoot any specific questions at me via email, and I'll be happy to get you through the process: martin.albisetti@canonical.com
[12:13] <beuno> puede ser en español tambien  ;)
[12:13] <juanje> beuno: genial :-P
[12:15] <rcmorano>  lol
[12:15] <rcmorano> ;>
[13:28] <Daviey> Getting "Please try again, Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.  Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.  Thanks for your patience.
[13:28] <Daviey> "
[13:30] <Daviey> (trying to access a loggerhead, been like that for nearly 10 mins)
[13:32] <beuno> Daviey, what URL?
[13:32] <beuno> herb, ^
[13:37] <Daviey> beuno: it's magically come back :)
[13:38] <beuno> Daviey, maybe herb had something to do with that
[13:38] <Daviey> :), if it was - thanks herb
[13:45] <savvas> 254 requests Wget/1.11.4, 48 requests Wget/1.10.2 the last 5 days - launchpad-ppa-fix.pl is quite a hit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056099 :P
[15:26] <MTecknology> kiko-afk: you missed the approval meetings
[15:31] <MTecknology> mrevell: ping
[15:31] <mrevell> MTecknology: Hey there, sorry I wasn't around the other evening ... it's been a really odd week for me.
[15:31] <MTecknology> busy?
[15:33] <MTecknology> mrevell: do you know if next wednesday same time will work?
[15:33] <mrevell> MTecknology: tbh any UTC evening is really difficult for me right now. Let me see if I can get one of the other guys, nearer your timezone, to do it
[15:34] <MTecknology> lol, ok
[15:57] <MTecknology> mrevell: If I just let you try to find someone that will schedule a time with me, shall I continue to bug you, or just wait for a response?
[16:01] <mrevell> MTecknology: It's on my list, so I will get someone :)
[16:02] <MTecknology> ok
[16:03] <MTecknology> mrevell: Do you know how I go about getting my own little place in the planet?
[16:03] <mrevell> MTecknology: Did your Ubuntu membership go through?
[16:03] <MTecknology> yup
[16:04] <MTecknology> I was added to te team too
[16:04] <mrevell> MTecknology: Cool. The Planet Ubuntu instructions are here:
[16:10] <MTecknology> mrevell: that was descriptive, but I found it - thanks
[16:11] <mrevell> MTecknology: heh, sorry, I got distracted.
[16:12] <MTecknology> :P
[16:18] <MTecknology> mrevell: oh - what about the email addy?
[16:20] <mrevell> MTecknology: What email addy? I'm gonna be afk for a few mins.
[16:20] <MTecknology> mrevell: @ubuntu.com
[16:24] <andrea-bs> MTecknology: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[16:25] <MTecknology> andrea-bs: thanks
[16:26] <MTecknology> andrea-bs: so I just wait for it to be created by a script?
[16:27] <andrea-bs> MTecknology: yes, just wait :)
[16:53] <v1mm3r> is there a way to upload files to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu or does one use the text box to copy in info?
[16:54] <MTecknology> v1mm3r: not that I know of
[16:54] <MTecknology> You'd need to convert it to a bug for that
[16:55] <v1mm3r> 'cause pasting in a huge file causes it to timeout. will check more. thanks.
[16:55] <v1mm3r> its not a bug right now. its in the 'answers' category
[16:56] <MTecknology> pastebin?
[16:56] <v1mm3r> specifically i was trying to copy 130144 lines
[16:57] <MTecknology> use pastebin for that if it needs to stay an answer
[16:58] <v1mm3r> thanks will look into that avenue. perhaps it is just a n/w issue on ubuntu's end.
[18:15] <gotgenes> Is there a sandbox area for Launchpad where I can give a tutorial and have people in the "class" play with LP and Bazaar live?
[18:15] <beuno> gotgenes, sure, staging.launchpad.net
[18:16] <gotgenes> Or is it okay to create projects for instruction?
[18:16] <gotgenes> beuno: Ah, fantastic!
[18:16] <gotgenes> That's exactly what I was looking for!
[19:48] <slytherin> can any of the launchpad admin please remove Mr. Robert Hall from bug 330684? I don't understand why is it so hard to unsubscribe.
[20:42] <Goundy> guys: bzr update says tree is up to date (rev 42)
[20:43] <Goundy> but when I visit my loggerhead well there's a 43rev
[20:43] <Goundy> wtf ?
[20:47] <matsubara> Goundy, bzr pull
[20:48] <Goundy> matsubara yes thanks !
[20:49] <matsubara> np
[21:37] <mrooney> Is the keyserver dead or something equivalent?
[21:38] <mrooney> I need to add keys for PPAs but any requests to actually obtain the keys seems to hang
[21:44] <vadi2> There is one Swedish translator going about and filing bug reports in every single project, saying to close the open translations because someone messed up the swedish ones
[21:45] <vadi2> Which just makes it harder for everyone else to translate - perhaps you could look at the original poor swedish translator to begin with.
[21:45] <vadi2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~yeager
[21:46] <vadi2> ops, not all. just many of the ones that I'm affiliated with: http://ur1.ca/1ssp
[21:48] <Nafallo> vadi2: the "original poor swedish translator" does most of his work upstream. he's normally very sane in his judgements.
[21:49] <vadi2> can this guy be warned about this then? having to register in yet another place is a setback for the random internet translator
[21:49] <Nafallo> and he's idle 7h...
[21:50] <Nafallo> vadi2: I asked him to join, but he's not likely to be at a computer.
[22:54] <Crewsr3_3> Is is just me or is the launchpad server having a hard time keeping up.  I keep getting the "Please try again" pag
[22:56] <mrooney> Can anyone give me some PPA upload advice? I have a package accepted in Jaunty, and I want to have a Gutsy-Intrepid PPA. What do I need to change in the packaging to accomplish this? I keep getting rejections from launchpad
[22:56] <Ursinha> Crewsr3_3, which is the address you're getting that?
[22:57] <Crewsr3_3> http://www.mibbit.com/url/zMOyUE
[22:58] <bigjools> mrooney: you can either: 1. copy the package to those series in your PPA, 2. upload a newer version
[23:00] <mrooney> bigjools: how do I copy a package to a PPA?
[23:00] <bigjools> mrooney: click the "copy packages" link on the right hand side
[23:02] <bigjools> then select the same PPA, but with the new series you need. also select "copy existing binaries"
[23:03] <slangasek> hi, has it been discussed already here that LP is timing out with alarming frequency?
[23:03] <Crewsr3_3> Ursinha   Is are the servers stressed?
[23:03] <slangasek>  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[23:03] <slangasek> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[23:03] <slangasek> and if so, should this be mentioned in the /topic?
[23:03] <Crewsr3_3> looks Like I'm not the only one
[23:04] <joey> ok, so I'm not the only one reporting this
[23:04] <Ursinha> slangasek, edge?
[23:04] <joey> that's good.
[23:04] <slangasek> Ursinha: no
[23:05] <bdmurray> I'm on edge and seeing it
[23:06] <slangasek> fwiw, Chris Cheney was reporting problems over a half hour ago on #ubuntu-devel, but I wasn't seeing any problems at the time
[23:06] <joey> I had the same issue on Edge.  We have an OSA looking into it
[23:07] <slangasek> there seems to be a pattern that it more commonly affects updates to LP rather than just views, but bdmurray says he also just hit it trying to view a bug, so
[23:09] <mrooney> bigjools: okay, this looks good. Does it mean anything to copy from "This PPA" to "The same series" ?
[23:09] <mrooney> that combination of choices confuses me
[23:09] <bigjools> mrooney: that will fail
[23:09] <bigjools> obviously :)
[23:09] <mrooney> oh okay that would just be a no-op, right?
[23:09] <mrooney> it seems like maybe that should be grayed out in that case or something
[23:10] <joey> slangasek, bdmurray, et al - we have a restore running which might cause it. I've asked to have that nuked to see if that's causing the issues
[23:10] <slangasek> ok
[23:10] <bigjools> mrooney: yes, we'll be adding some JS validation there at some point
[23:10] <bdmurray> joey: it be good to have launchpad behaving well for the global bug jam
[23:10] <bdmurray> it would be ;-)
[23:10] <joey> bdmurray, yah.
[23:11] <joey> bdmurray, This normally runs at this time and per the OSA it doesn't appear out of the ordinary but we could find no other cause
[23:11] <mrooney> bigjools: Cool. So there is no way to tell the PPA that it works on say, Gutsy - Jaunty right, I need to copy it for each one?
[23:11] <slangasek> joey: still seeing the error currently
[23:11] <joey> bdmurray, so, we're going to kill it and see if it's really the cause.
[23:11] <bigjools> mrooney: the PPA just reacts to whatever you've uploaded or copied
[23:12] <joey> slangasek, bdmurray, et al - the process is killed. If you still see any issues after 23:17 please ping here
[23:12] <joey> which is 5 mins from now
[23:12] <mrooney> bigjools: but I mean, it is normal to have the same identical package listed separately for each series? I just wanted to double check that
[23:12] <mrooney> bigjools: ie does this look...right? https://edge.launchpad.net/~mrooney/+archive/ppa
[23:13] <bigjools> mrooney: yes that's normal, it's a separate publication in your repository's indexes
[23:13] <mrooney> bigjools: ooh I see the Intrepid one is "pending", so the older Intrepid one will be superseded and disappear then, correct?
[23:13] <bigjools> mrooney: yep
[23:13] <mrooney> bigjools: excellent, thanks for your help!!!
[23:14] <bigjools> mrooney: welcome!
[23:18] <mifritscher> hi
[23:18] <mifritscher> seems that Launchpad has problems - very slow and sometimes I get a "can not create a connection try again later"
[23:18] <joey> hi mifritscher - we just did something that might make that better
[23:19] <joey> mifritscher, let me know if you see any problems from now on
[23:20] <joey> slangasek, bdmurray - ok now?
[23:20] <joey> I was getting them ever 30 secs or so.  No more here locally
[23:20] <slangasek> joey: haven't had occasion to do much that would exercise it
[23:21] <slangasek> but the few page loads I've done are ok
[23:22] <bdmurray> joey: I just got a try again
[23:22] <bdmurray> and again
[23:22] <joey> bdmurray, all different pages?
[23:23] <bdmurray> yes, two different bug pages
[23:23] <joey> mine were on registry and branches earlier....
[23:23]  * joey ponders.
[23:27] <usuario> nao consigo ver os filmes
[23:27] <ccarey> I have a GPL'ed skin I would like to add into Audacious that is packaged for Ubuntu. How should I proceed? Who should I talk to?
[23:28] <mrooney> bigjools: oh no, trying to install the jaunty -> intrepid package I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python-central", could this be something I have done wrong in copying or in packaging?
[23:28] <ccarey> http://sublimespot.com/graphics/skins/winamp/
[23:28] <mifritscher> joey - sorry, still have the problem
[23:28] <joey> mifritscher, ok thanks for the confirmation.
[23:29] <joey> We're still looking into the situation.
[23:30] <savvas> who's katie? https://launchpad.net/~katie
[23:30] <savvas> says "Ubuntu Archive Auto-Sync"
[23:32] <savvas> that's weird, I don't remember adding them at bug 242965
[23:32] <Ursinha> crap
[23:33] <savvas> launchpad is having random problems with site requests
[23:34] <Ursinha> yes, it is
[23:34] <Ursinha> we're investigating
[23:34] <savvas> must be the global bug jam :)
[23:34] <bdmurray> here's hoping!
[23:37] <joey> So it appears we know why the timeout screen is being displayed
[23:37] <joey> we're still investigating what's causing the situation to occur though
[23:38] <maxb> savvas: the Debian archive management software is called katie, I guess the name was borrowed for the launchpad codename for the autosyncer for nostalgia :-)
[23:39] <savvas> maxb: the weird thing is that it says that I subscribed that username: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/debian/+source/sqliteodbc/+bug/242965/+activity
[23:40] <savvas> (lies! :P) - To be frank, I can't really remember if I've done that