=== firephoto_ is now known as firephoto [00:01] scizzo: does it work WITH compositing. i thought vol + brightness would be rather simple and rhythmbox is working [00:08] Hmm, maybe it is related to the underlying video driver? Using nvidia here, they work fine [00:19] anyone here use an hp mini? [00:20] or the hp mini theme in ubuntu? === keffie_jayx is now known as effie_jayx [00:32] getting an error trying to install packages -http://pastebin.com/m69b49855 [00:33] tretle: What's the rest of the output? [00:34] http://pastebin.com/m76722358 [00:36] Urgh. [00:37] Looks like a bug in python-nevow. On the other hand, it also looks like you've already got all the banshee build-deps, so at least that should work :) [00:38] how do i get rid of the errors [00:40] You might be able to remove python-nevow, although apt might want it to be fully installed first. [00:41] editing the file in question to remove the syntax error would also work, but is more hacky. [00:46] thanks [00:46] how do I test the new notifications [00:50] notify-send "Joe Doe" "Yo dude, what’s up?" -i totem [00:51] tretle: notify send not installed... will I need to install this to get manual acces to notifications? [00:53] Ienorand: libnotify-bin is the package [00:54] bruce89: and that should be installed by default?, because I don't have it. [00:54] Ienorand: no, you need to install it [01:00] heeeeeeelp, when i press printscreen, it doesnt make screenshot [01:00] gnome-screenshot tool dont open when i press printscreen, nothing happen [01:01] miik: you said that 6 hours ago [01:01] miik: I said Applications>Accessories>Take Screenshot 6 hours ago also [01:02] heh [01:02] still, a a key mapping could help [01:03] perhaps System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts, unless the print screen key is broken for some reason [01:03] aye [01:04] bruce89, yes, i can use application->acc>take screenshot... [01:04] bruce89, but still my printscreen hotkey doesnt work... [01:04] i need the hotkey to work, cuz i need screenshot of game [01:04] and then i dont have time to use that tool, i must use hotkey [01:04] this hotkey worked in 8.10, it dont work in 9.04 [01:04] its a bug [01:04] someone must fix this bug [01:04] I don't think it would work in a game anyway [01:04] miik, see bruce's last comment [01:05] also -- for someone to fix this bug, it has to have been reported. Was it? [01:05] the updates today haven't solved my xorg problem, it's still saying it can't load the nvidia module and the screen doesn't have a usable configuration [01:05] but only if it's reproducable [01:06] bruce89, keyboard shortcut, says "Print" but when I press printscreen, nothing happen [01:06] my printscreen key is not broken, this is a bug [01:06] miik, have you reported this bug? [01:07] i think someone else have [01:07] try reassigning the action to whatever the button does [01:07] but i cant find it [01:08] in other words, click the "print" thingy in the keyboard shortcut thing, and then press the button [01:08] i did [01:08] didnt help [01:09] does your printscreen button work in 9.04? [01:09] yupp [01:09] oh [01:14] though it'll not likely work in a game [01:15] since a game will probably remap the keys [01:22] but its a windows game that run in a window on the desktop [01:22] kinda like solitaire, etc [01:38] Is anyone experiencing Network Manager randomly disconnects wireless networks?. I'm using iwl3945, it does it once every 20 minutes or so. [01:40] it alwalys started with "Disconnecting by local choice" followed by "Wireless now enabled by radio killswitch", as if the iwl3945 module was reloaded. Any idea?. [01:50] ok so i don't know what all is causing this nvidia, xorg issue [01:50] so i'm gonna just try reinstalling all packages using this one liner [01:51] hey all [01:51] can someone confirm issue with wpa2 enterprise encryption for wireless in 9.04 [01:51] desktop [01:51] if anyone has it [01:52] using this one liner to see if reinstalling all packages might fix the conflict [01:52] for pkg in `dpkg --get-selections | egrep -v deinstall | awk '{print $1}' | egrep -v '(dpkg|apt|mysql|mythtv)'` ; do apt-get -y install --reinstall $pkg ; done [01:52] how do i install screensavers in jaunty? [01:53] not sure if that's overkill or a big waste of time :/ [01:53] anyone use blueman? i'm curious if it will make my bluetooth headset work so I can skype [01:53] Lounge: what video card do you have [01:53] confirm that bug with wireless anyone? [01:53] badpc: search synaptic for screensaver? [01:53] nvidia [01:53] oh wait i forgot the specs lol [01:53] where do i look? [01:53] Lounge: use nouveau :) [01:53] does anyone know if Ubuntu 8.10 can read the ext4 FS? Like if I had a ext3 / partition, and an ext4 /home partition? [01:54] sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau [01:54] sudo sed -i 's/nvidia/nouveau/g' /etc/apt/sources.list [01:54] wait [01:54] no! [01:54] sudo sed -i 's/nvidia/nouveau/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:54] burner: were is synaptic i have adept? [01:54] badpc: ok smart guy, search adept for screensaver ;) [01:55] burner: ok i'll add that. i already made a backup so so i guess nothing to loose [01:56] i'm rockin nouveau... i couldn't get nvidia to work with my dual screens like i wanted [01:56] that said, nouveau is experimental yet [01:56] burner not trying to be smart there is a synaptic pkg manager but i dont have it and i allready tried typing that into adept [01:56] Lounge: u have 9.04 can u get on wpa2 enterprise encyrption wireless? [01:56] badpc: apt-cache search screensaver <-- from terminal [01:57] not using wireless [01:57] anyone then? [01:57] doing the good'ole cat5 cable [01:57] i would like to know if that issue is still in 9.04 like in 8.10 [01:57] * burner is rocking open wireless [01:57] i know the issue for 8.10 is reported [01:58] but not sure in 9.04 i am using virtual box [01:58] so i can not really confirm it [01:58] burner thnks that did something! [02:00] badpc: then "sudo apt-get install kscreensaver" or gnome-screensaver, or the xscreensavers or whatever [02:00] burner awsome thnx allot dude [02:01] badpc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195557 [02:01] give that a look [02:01] that's if you wanna use xscreensaver instead of gnome's [02:02] burner: i sedded that entry but i'm still waiting for that reinstall 1'liner to finish [02:04] Lounge: you just need to restart x to fix the thing we did [02:04] sudo service gdm restart [02:05] also wanted to ask about linux-image 2.6.28-8-generic: there's a realy heavy payload going on with it :/ [02:05] so i'm using 2.6.28-7 for now [02:06] payload? [02:07] i mean; the boot process took forever to complete and i checked the cpu and the cores were up at 80 to 90 even 100 % [02:07] heavy payload [02:07] <---dell xps 400 intel pentium D [02:09] my launchpad name is lucian ^^ [02:09] just trying to participate & help the ubuntu crew [02:10] anyone hip to bluetooth? I can't connect to my cell phone nor my headset... i can at least see my headset, but no services are advertised [02:11] so what process was using the cpu? [02:13] burner: that's what i couldn't find out. the list didn't show any of the pids that were eating the percentage [02:13] i'll check again in a bit and see [02:13] maybe i didn't look fully [02:14] you can "show all processes" if it's gnome-system-monitor [02:14] it's probably set for "user processes" or your processes [02:14] i also have conky set to moniter the top five processes [02:15] monitor* [02:15] and it sees nothing? [02:15] * burner remembers with gkrellm was cool [02:16] well right now i'm booted up with 2.6.28-7 and am still waiting for this loop script to complete but after its don't, i'll reboot into 2.6.28-8 and hope i don't get a burnout lol [02:16] after its done* [02:18] here's hoping nouveau works and works well [02:18] ya know whats odd is even now, conky is showing Xorg running on top at around 2 to 40% fluxing [02:18] Hi everyone, I'm running Jaunty and was wondering if there was a way to revert back from xorg-edgers to the regular xserver/drivers [02:18] dTx: what's your card? [02:19] intel [02:19] using xserver-xorg-video-intel [02:19] brb gonna get some eats [02:19] what's edgers? [02:19] unstable X+drivers [02:20] * burner doesn't quite understand the question [02:20] https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers [02:20] I am using their repo [02:20] now I don't want to [02:20] I commented out the repo's but things won't downgrade on a dist-upgrade [02:21] can you uninstall, then reinstall? [02:21] it won't have the edgers repo to pull from, so jaunty repos will be the newerst [02:22] I was hoping there would be an easy way to do it [02:22] because it changes out xserver xorg drm etc. [02:22] like force it to use maximum version available in current repos [02:22] for sure... i'm not hip enough to even know about xorg-edgers... sorry i'm no help [02:23] I was only hip to it because the intel drivers were pretty bad in Alpha 3 [02:23] I don't know about now [02:23] Would like to try it [02:23] cuz edgers is a bit extreme for me [02:23] works one day and not the next [02:26] sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg ? [02:27] could someone tell me what exactly the dashboard is for? [02:28] why does aptitude always want to remove a bunch of packages [02:28] drives me crazy [02:28] that's why I use apt-get [02:29] you can do "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove the packages that aptitude is talking about [02:34] dTx: aptitude wants to remove packages that were not explicitly installed... [02:34] dTx: to stop that, explicitly request they be installed - it'll say "already installed" but it will then mark them as such [02:35] dTx: it is intended to limit cruft on the system... if something stopped depending on a given package... why keep it around collecting dust? [02:37] I am going to reformat my drive for ext4 and am wondering, would it be faster to dd or rsync my partitions to an external drive? Otherwise, is there a benefit to either method I might be overlooking? [02:38] ScislaC: DD would be faster, but rsync will do everything in one fall swoop [02:40] ScislaC: You can however just edit /etc/fstab and change ext3 to ext4 and have the same benefits as keeping files that weren't created for ext4 [02:41] ScislaC: They are backwards compatible with the exception of extends ... which won't be applied to the new files anyway if you back them up and restore them [02:41] fde: won't it not be able to do "extents" or whatever that is supposed to be a benefit? [02:41] ahhhhhhhh [02:41] excellent to know [02:42] you can add extents [02:42] burner: umm, no you can't [02:42] but it only works on new files... so by the time you upgrade all packages when jaunty is released, it should be extentified, no? [02:42] http://buranen.info/?p=345 <--how to upgrade to ext4 [02:42] thanks [02:44] burner: doesn't it also work that if I open a file, modify, and resave it that it would add extends to it then? or not? [02:45] burner: if you add that option, sure files newly created will use extends but considering its feature freeze, I doubt too many files will be touched [02:45] definitely maybe... I honestly don't know... i think it's extents and not extends though [02:45] all of gnome will be touched... a lot of xserver packages will be touched [02:46] I would personally recommend just reformatting everything, and use google tools to backup anything you need in your home dir ... that way when they're pulling back in, they will be treated as new files, and won't have the fs options applied already [02:47] after adding extent, how do you ensure it's properly used? I've heard that to make full use of it, it's better to start with a clean slate [02:48] (docs, picasa, bookmarks, calendar etc) [02:48] I'm thinking of something in the lines of copying the files around and moving it back in place [02:48] syockit: that is what developers of ext4 are saying, yes... apparently burner knows better though [02:49] lol [02:51] supposedly the online defrag tool can add it [02:52] that tool isn't finished yet, right? [02:53] probably... i don't have the command e4defrag, but I'm ready to run it when it's available ;) [02:55] is it going to be built-in, or be provided externally? [02:58] i think it'll be in the kernel right? [02:59] holy crap, we have new Mark Shuttleworth inspired notification windows [03:00] what's that? where, show me [03:00] ooh, i like how it disappears when you hover [03:00] change a song in rhythmbox :) [03:01] wait, what's the package name? is it replacing libnotify? [03:02] got me, i just dist-upgraded today and now have it [03:02] is it indicator-applet? [03:02] gotta try it right away [03:03] i wish i knew what else besides rhythmbox uses it... i'm curious how it works with multiple... hopefully it stacks them [03:04] evolution [03:07] ah, it seems it's a fork of libnotify. I wonder if it'll see mainstream usage. Right now, it's mostly conceptual IMO [03:15] im back [03:15] evolution doesn't do any popups for me... what else! try something with multiple updates at a time? does it stack em and have smooth animation? [03:15] Lounge: with X via nouveau? [03:15] has anyone had good luck with using jaunty with i945gm graphics chipset? (hp mini netbook) [03:15] lol not yet still waiting for this loop script to finish [03:16] helo, my eee 1000h has i945gm, works fine [03:16] remember that one liner i posted? [03:16] Stralytic: notice speed improvements over intrepid? [03:17] helo, no, i haven't benchmarked anything though [03:17] hrm... [03:17] there's something interesting about lvm and cryptsetup and jaunty that i did see in intrepid or hardy and that is the "special divices" are present in jaunty [03:17] that i didn't see* [03:18] i didn't see any /dev/dm-* devices in 8.04 or 8.10 when the encrypted lvms were mounted [03:18] i'm used to running debian unstable... is ubuntu+1 generally in the same ballpark of stability as unstable? [03:18] but in jaunty, they're there and mounted [03:19] is this a new thing? or was it something i did wrong? [03:20] but anyhoo now that the lvm partitions are mounted as /dev/dm-1 to 7 i can read DiskIOs from each one by one instead of it being all one big IO [03:22] basically the encrypted lvms are being mounted a special devices [03:23] on my other partition, i have another linux on its own encrypted lvm group with one diference, that that group is raiding with the 2nd hdd [03:24] helo: Give or take, yes. [03:24] and im wondering because of raid1 that its not creating specieal devices out of them? [03:24] helo: It's going to be substantially more stable than Debian unstable right now, since (a) we're in feature freeze, and (b) all the stuff in experimental's going to hit unstable now! [03:25] nifty [03:27] to be honest i wish i knew what i was doing most the time >_< [04:18] hi, wondering if there are any plans to package the GPL Hercules DJ Controller drivers in Ubuntu (http://ts.hercules.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=2&fid=28&pid=215&cid=1#section1) ? [04:22] won't let me install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau [04:22] xserver-xorg-video-nouveau [04:22] saying "linux-nouveau-modules [04:22] is not installed [04:22] but it won't let me install that either [04:23] DKMS tree already contains: nouveau-0.0.11+git20081220 [04:23] You cannot add the same module/version combo more than once. [04:23] dependency problems [04:49] boo! [04:50] omfg [04:51] lollercopters [04:51] im happy I just got a Dell SX280 with the refurbished mobo and a 1680x1050 screen session rockin out [04:57] and the reason I'm using screen is: I totally should have timed out, but I just detached... shweet [04:58] * crdlb just upgraded 8.10 -> 9.04 without disconnecting from IRC [04:59] 9.04 is nice [04:59] as long as you dont want any sound [04:59] yeah [04:59] my pulse did break a few updates ago [04:59] lol [05:00] but another one fixed it, shwatever [05:00] stutter, stutter [05:00] also vlc stutters like hell [05:00] mine hasn't fixed yet, i guess i should update again [05:00] yup [05:00] and wine [05:00] but on second attempt to play it is better [05:00] what's up with thtat anyway? i thought pulse was the one to rule them all? [05:01] yes? [05:01] i've seen lots of blogs complaining about pulse, and other blogs saying just wait they will fix it [05:03] hrmn, there's no update to anything sound related [05:04] i'm using lpia though, maybe it takes longer for the updates to come through [05:10] my vlc blows ass too.. i have yet to figure out why [05:10] it does ... what? [05:11] video and audio stutters [05:11] what's the go with this indicator applet thing? === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [05:29] ok im in linux-image-2.6.28-8-generic and everything is way slow [05:29] the processor is being overworked on every process execution [05:30] and i'm rebooting back into 2.6.28-8 before i have a melt down [05:31] into 2.6.28-7* [05:39] I know this sounds retarded but I can't figure out how to specify the directory prefix in my wgetr [05:39] wgetrc* [05:40] okay i fixed the nviduaand the gmd issue [05:41] nvidia and or gmd not sure if they're both linked [05:41] gdm* [05:42] i had a missmatch with the linux-header version from the kernal-image [05:43] so i removed nvidia-glx, linux-headers, [05:43] did an autoremove [05:43] and then did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) [05:44] made sure fakeroot was installed [05:44] and then reinstalled the nvidia stuff [05:44] i keep getting x11 driver not configured with opengl error when playing games [05:55] i'd really like to use the root-terminal again [05:57] what do you mean? [05:58] there is the option to use the "root-terminal" but in jaunty it doesn't start [05:58] where is that option? [05:59] you mean on startup? [05:59] now i know you can just open gnome-terminal and then typ su, but the root terminal is just something i've been using since debian [05:59] drop to root shell? === [pErry] is now known as [perry] [05:59] ahhh [05:59] you get used to it [05:59] no the root-terninal "gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator" [05:59] it's actually better I think [06:00] just remember sudo !! [06:00] i know there's ctrl+alt+f1 - f6 for the tty sessions [06:00] Lounge: That runs the whole app as root, using sudo in a non-root gnome-terminal is better [06:01] But yeah, it should be removed from the menus or made to work (although it is hidden by default) [06:01] yes it's hidden but i for one rather like it === AnonB is now known as Melik [06:02] now if its decided by the majority to be removed from ubuntu then i'll respect that but i'd like say i would like to see it still live [06:02] I would like to see some KMS action [06:02] if you insist, I guess you could create a launcher of type Application in Terminal with 'sudo -i' for the command [06:03] that doesn't work either [06:03] (I did try it before suggesting it) [06:03] * akio Listens to enough whining at work [06:03] using the panel [06:04] i keep getting Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting. [06:04] FAIL [06:05] akio: unless you figured how to fix FConf, its been reported to not work in jaunty by many [06:06] same for intrepid ibex [06:07] didn't know there even was an FConf [06:07] GConf* [06:07] i typoed [06:07] what do you mean fix it? [06:07] whats the deal? [06:07] mine works without issue... [06:08] i have other broken stuff but thats mostly wishlist [06:08] my biggest stink is the framebuffer support [06:08] well i don't what's going on with gconf either [06:08] and the intel driver breaks horribly in the middle of the night [06:13] anybody know what the deal was with the gnome cd burner app? [06:13] is that fixed yet? [06:14] Anyone else have orca just plain not work? [06:14] never even tried to use it [06:14] The list of available speech engines... is completely disabled (as in, empty and thus why bother enabling it). [06:14] Oh, and: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/331311 [06:14] Ubuntu bug 331311 in gnome-settings-daemon "volume notifications are all black" [High,Fix released] [06:14] Ugly black still clashes quite violently with everything around it. [06:16] DanaG: oh, I just upgraded and I was wondering what that box was [06:17] It's ugly, that's what. [06:17] And the mouseover blinking is distracting. [06:17] Oh yeah, and now changing my icon theme results in my whole desktop blinking to blank once. [06:22] IntuitiveNipple: love the name [06:27] argh, yeah, orca is broken. [06:27] I don't actually need it, but it still sucks that it's broken -- it means it's probably broken for some other people, too. === tretle_ is now known as tretle [06:47] I want BTRFS and KMS [06:47] now! [06:48] * DanaG wants power management for his danged R600. [06:48] 3D and KMS can wait... my battery life sucks more importantly. [06:52] What is up with that broken orca? [07:02] Stupid whale. [07:02] orca. [07:16] akio: go compile .29 kernel and enable btrfs [07:17] wow, that's cool [07:18] I always try to trim every bit of my kernel, but overtrimming always causes 1 or 2 things to stop working. Last time, it was the sound [07:18] I install apt-file and it automatically prompts me to generate its db [07:18] because all those modules which don't get loaded consume so much theoretical memory? [07:25] yeesh [07:32] les: big les? [07:36] wtf? [08:08] crdlb, think of the theoretical children! [08:12] ? [08:12] .... === geser_ is now known as geser [08:27] just wondering, how to reload pulseaudio? [08:31] nvm [08:32] .... [08:45] Gotta' love those BLANK rectangles for notifications. [08:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/331311 [08:46] Ubuntu bug 331311 in gnome-settings-daemon "volume notifications are all black" [High,Fix released] [08:47] fix released? oh really? [08:47] and some notification showed up as a wire outline [08:47] i wonder if the bug should go there? I thought the new notification is in package indicator-applet [08:51] Great, now all icon themes will need an additional set of like 20 icons. [08:51] Lovely. [08:51] ... and the blinking on hover... is also.... lovely. [08:57] DanaG: its cause the notifications don't follow the freedesktop specs [08:58] DanaG: and they'll have issues with compiz iirc [08:58] ugh. [08:58] DanaG: if they didn't suck before, they sure do now! [08:59] err, they didn't put icons in hicolor as a fallback? [08:59] Nope. [08:59] Not in highcolor. [08:59] Only in Human. [08:59] genius [09:00] Oh, and the blinking when you hit brightness-up when already at max... also lame. [09:00] iT'S even worse going down. [09:00] Then it's all twitchy-glitchy. [09:00] ... especially if you let the key repeat. [09:00] Same for volume. [09:00] Try holding volume-down. [09:01] heh I'm almost scared to upgrade [09:01] I presume this only happens with working icons? [09:01] Yeah. [09:02] Oh, and the black... hardcoded black? [09:02] It clashes wildly with my desktop theme. [09:02] http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot.png [09:03] Yes, I admit I can't see my icons... but there aren't many there TO see. [09:03] I have gone back to a full bottom panel, though. [09:04] DanaG: whats the point of two docks? [09:05] I was going to try to get the all-window taskbar thing, but it didn't work. [09:06] HP's netbook theme: http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-glassybleu.png [09:06] First dark theme I've ever seen that's dark and yet cheerful. [09:16] DanaG, 404 [09:16] try up a level... [09:16] lowercase screenshot [09:16] http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot-glassybleu.png [09:16] yeah. [09:17] case-sensitive server. [09:17] That's also my normal panel setup, by the way. [09:17] source? [09:17] ah, nvm ;p [09:18] source for theme? [09:18] yes [09:18] kinda wish the vista button fad would die though [09:19] It's HP's netbook theme -- available on the Canonical repo, though not publicized anywhere. [09:19] Add the deb-src from here: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/board/message?board.id=OS&thread.id=3598 [09:19] and then apt-get source glassy-bleu-theme. [09:21] I still like my rather flashy background. [09:21] Sure, I can't see my icons, but I don't have anything there I can't reach from somewhere else: [09:22] * cwillu hasn't seen his desktop in a while [09:22] HP_Tools (EFI) volume, SDHC card, Vista partition, Desktop (link back to ~), Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos, Gnome-Terminal, and wmhdplop shortcut. [09:22] ... and occasionally a few other files. [09:24] Oh yeah, and I did color-match the orange. =þ [09:24] That glassy-bleu theme is a pixmap theme, by the way. [09:47] Hi here. I installed Jaunty on my laptop. Everything goes well (except some bugs with evolution) but I have no dhcp anymore. When I type "sudo dhclient", here is the result : [09:47]