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| didrocks | hi mvo :) | 07:54 |
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| mvo | hi didrocks | 07:54 |
| didrocks | mvo: I have a question regarding Totem | 07:55 |
| dholbach | hi didrocks, hi mvo | 07:55 |
| didrocks | hey dholbach ;) | 07:55 |
| didrocks | mvo: If you look there (https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem), the 2.25.90-0ubuntu2 version told us that we have to include src/plugins/bbc/Makefile.in in | 07:55 |
| didrocks | 70_autoconf.patch | 07:55 |
| didrocks | So, I think I have to use autoreconf and not autoconf to take it into account | 07:55 |
| didrocks | but I get a impressive error/warning stack: | 07:56 |
| didrocks | http://paste.ubuntu.com/120246/ | 07:56 |
| didrocks | all b-d are there in my jaunty chroot | 07:56 |
| didrocks | I tried to do the same with the non updated version (2.25.90-0ubuntu3) | 07:56 |
| didrocks | same errors, so I think this is just some warnings we can ignore? | 07:56 |
| didrocks | (but it exit with 1 :/) | 07:57 |
| mvo | didrocks: let me try this here | 07:58 |
| didrocks | mvo: thanks :) if you want a new version, I can bzr push it somewhere | 07:58 |
| didrocks | (the new version depends on gtk-doc 1.11, I ask for a sync request, but no ack yet. I have it in my ppa) | 07:59 |
| mvo | didrocks: please | 08:00 |
| dholbach | is there anything we can do to find out what's going on with bug 331462, bug 331924, bug 331774, bug 331740? | 08:00 |
| ubottu | Bug 331462 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331462 is private | 08:00 |
| ubottu | Bug 331924 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331924 is private | 08:00 |
| ubottu | Bug 331774 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331774 is private | 08:00 |
| ubottu | Bug 331740 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331740 is private | 08:00 |
| dholbach | dunno if this is related to bug 327801 too (similar bug was already fixed with bug 205536) | 08:02 |
| ubottu | Bug 327801 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/327801 is private | 08:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 205536 in gnome-terminal "gnome-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205536 | 08:02 |
| dholbach | but gnome-terminal crashed a number of times for me already | 08:02 |
| mvo | dholbach: I can have a look later today, I need to do a language-selector merge first | 08:03 |
| * dholbach hugs mvo | 08:03 | |
| mvo | didrocks: let me know if the branch is somewhere | 08:04 |
| mvo | dholbach: any word from upstream yet about the crsah? | 08:04 |
| didrocks | mvo: ~didrocks/totem/autoreconf_fail | 08:05 |
| didrocks | mvo: you can find gtk-doc 1.11 in my ppa (debian version) | 08:05 |
| dholbach | mvo: no, somehow the retracer is broken and I was waiting for it to finish | 08:06 |
| dholbach | mvo: pedro had a similar onw | 08:06 |
| dholbach | one | 08:06 |
| mvo | didrocks: quilt and autoreconf patches == *pain* | 08:22 |
| mvo | :( | 08:22 |
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| didrocks | mvo: yeah, I know :/ | 08:24 |
| didrocks | mvo: I used to echo "" > debian/patches/70_... ; quilt push -f 70_....; find . -type f | xargs quilt add | 08:25 |
| dholbach | one fine day, glorious and sunshiny it will be, we'll use revision control and no patch systems any more | 08:26 |
| didrocks | dholbach: I hope that it will happen soon :) VCS rocks! | 08:27 |
| dholbach | GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! | 08:42 |
| dholbach | [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter] *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0 | 08:42 |
| dholbach | WTH?!! | 08:42 |
| dholbach | I just pulled the plug of my laptop and the screen went black | 08:43 |
| dholbach | and I could only get it back by restarting X over SSH | 08:43 |
| mvo | didrocks: *grumpf* autoreconf -i works for me, but src/plugins/bbc/Makefile.in is now missing | 08:45 |
| didrocks | mvo: ? Strange, I use it in a pbuilder chroot | 08:46 |
| mvo | didrocks: I regenerated it now and pushed your changes (oh quilt is a pain), could you please check if it works for you? | 08:55 |
| mvo | didrocks: I don't really know what is wrong though with your autoreocnf | 08:55 |
| mvo | (sorry for that) | 08:55 |
| didrocks | don't be sorry, I *hate* autotools :) | 08:58 |
| didrocks | so, they give me back ;) | 08:58 |
| didrocks | mvo: how did you fix the issue with src/plugins/bbc/Makefile.in? | 08:59 |
| didrocks | (and you had really no warning/no ouput when executing "autoreconf" ?) | 09:00 |
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| mvo | didrocks: loads of warnings :) | 09:11 |
| didrocks | but it exits with 0 status? | 09:11 |
| mvo | didrocks: but I tend to ignore them | 09:11 |
| didrocks | not 1 as for me? | 09:12 |
| mvo | I did not do it in a pbuilder chroot (*cough*) - but that should be ok for autoreconf patches, I suspect there was just something missing there | 09:12 |
| didrocks | probably. I have to find what may miss for next update | 09:13 |
| didrocks | mvo: and for including you bcc plugin, how do you fix it? | 09:13 |
| didrocks | mvo: gnome-doc-utils is missing as b-d | 09:15 |
| mvo | didrocks: at first I generated a new patch, but that did not work (bbc plugin missing, I think because it gets the list of subdirs in src/plugins from config.h PLUGINS so that configure needs to be run at least once with bbc in it before Makefile.in gets created) | 09:15 |
| didrocks | I found it :) | 09:15 |
| mvo | so I just used the old one and manually "fixed" (deleted) the conflicting configure | 09:15 |
| mvo | and autoreconf -i | 09:16 |
| didrocks | mvo: that should maybe be written in the changelog, no? | 09:16 |
| didrocks | for next updates | 09:16 |
| mvo | didrocks: yes | 09:16 |
| didrocks | mvo: do you want me to handle that? | 09:16 |
| mvo | didrocks: or we should try to come up with something better, what I did was really just hammering blindly at it | 09:17 |
| mvo | didrocks: if you could, that would be great | 09:17 |
| mvo | ideally I guess the plugin goes upstream :) | 09:17 |
| didrocks | (and can I add gnome-doc-utils which seems to be needed to avoid the errors) | 09:17 |
| didrocks | let's hope that the plugin will ;) | 09:17 |
| mvo | great, please do | 09:17 |
| didrocks | ok, thanks for you help mvo :) | 09:17 |
| mvo | and then quilt on top of it | 09:17 |
| mvo | the combinations from my nightmares ;) | 09:18 |
| didrocks | :D | 09:18 |
| mvo | thanks for the update! | 09:18 |
| didrocks | quilt in a pbuilder chroot is the complete nightmare :) | 09:18 |
| mvo | let me know when you are happy with it, I will sponsor the upload then | 09:18 |
| didrocks | mvo: ok, but it needed the sync request for gtk-doc to be acknowledge | 09:18 |
| mvo | didrocks: yeah, we need to wait for a archive-admin for this (seb can do it for example) | 09:19 |
| didrocks | mvo: ok. I will get you read my comment on autoreconf patched before in the changelog | 09:21 |
| mpt | mvo, we want the interval to be *longer* than it was in Intrepid, not shorter, right? | 09:21 |
| mvo | mpt: I was just thinking about the devel release, not stable | 09:22 |
| mvo | mpt: just a idle thought, not so important | 09:22 |
| mvo | mpt: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/Screenshot-Language.png <- I would love to get feedback on this, arne is working on it and I'm reviewing the merge currently | 09:23 |
| mvo | mpt: it looks a bit un-gnomish, but IIRC you dislike bold headings in dialogs? | 09:23 |
| mpt | mvo, I mean, it was daily for Intrepid development | 09:23 |
| pitti | mvo: eek, what's wrong with your font rendering? | 09:24 |
| mvo | mpt: correct, daily auto-udpate plus a notification everytime the user ran apt-get update or synaptic update or anything like this manually | 09:24 |
| pitti | mvo: so does that run through gksu now? (for setting the system locale) | 09:25 |
| * mpt gets mixed up between LanguageSelectorImprovements, JauntyLanguageSelectorImprovements, and FutureLanguageSelectorImprovements | 09:25 | |
| mvo | mpt: its jauntylanguageselectorimprovmenets :) | 09:25 |
| mvo | mpt: and its confusing indeed :( | 09:26 |
| mpt | mvo, that matches the spec pretty exactly | 09:26 |
| mvo | mpt: ok, if you are happy with it, I am | 09:26 |
| mpt | except that the top section isn't horizontally centered, while it is in my mockup | 09:26 |
| mpt | The one other glitch is something I forgot to specify exact dimensions for in the mockup | 09:26 |
| pitti | mpt: uh, should that really be centered? | 09:26 |
| mpt | and that is that there's zero gap between the labels and the menus below them | 09:27 |
| mpt | though I'm not sure whether that's actually a bug or not | 09:27 |
| * mpt consults the HIGs | 09:27 | |
| mpt | hm, they don't mention that | 09:29 |
| mpt | anyway | 09:29 |
| mpt | mvo, there isn't enough nearly stuff in this window to need splitting up into sections with headings | 09:30 |
| mvo | mpt: ok | 09:30 |
| mpt | Bravo to asac and Arne | 09:30 |
| mpt | I think the window would look less lopsided if the top section was centered, but it shouldn't stop a merge or anything | 09:31 |
| mvo | mpt: thanks for checking it | 09:33 |
| asac | mpt: me? | 09:34 |
| asac | hi ;) | 09:34 |
| * asac doesnt think he has any credits here | 09:34 | |
| mvo | asac: I was wondeirng about this too, but a bravo to you is never wrong ;) | 09:35 |
| * asac feels good | 09:35 | |
| * asac uses the "download diff" feature of code.launchpad.net | 09:37 | |
| * pitti hugs asac | 09:37 | |
| asac | hmm. that gives me strip-level 0 | 09:37 |
| asac | why not 1? | 09:37 |
| * asac hugs pitti | 09:38 | |
| pitti | mvo: re your font settings, you either need to see an eye doctor or file a bug or so.. | 09:38 |
| pitti | mvo: do they come like that by default? | 09:38 |
| mvo | pitti: I do have to regularly see a eye doctor unfortunately :/ - the screenshot was taken on a intrepid box, the jaunty ones look better | 09:38 |
| pitti | mvo: can you fix that with the subpixel rendering settings? | 09:39 |
| mvo | pitti: let me try | 09:39 |
| pitti | they are blurry as hell | 09:39 |
| pitti | mvo: actually, when zooming it, it's not the subpixel stuff at all, it's the "smoothing" - less hinting, perhaps? | 09:40 |
| mpt | asac, sorry, I misread "arne" as "asac" for some reason | 09:40 |
| mpt | bravo anyway :-) | 09:40 |
| asac | bravo to you too, mpt | 09:40 |
| mvo | pitti: I set it to that now, looks better | 09:41 |
| * pitti hugs mvo | 09:41 | |
| asac | seb has off today? | 09:41 |
| pitti | he might just sleep in | 09:41 |
| pitti | he slept very little in the last couple of days, I guess | 09:41 |
| asac | well deserved | 09:41 |
| asac | i just had evolution-notify-alert looping on CPU taking about 300M of mem | 09:42 |
| asac | what does that do for me? | 09:42 |
| asac | (i dont even use evolution ;)) | 09:42 |
| pitti | evolution-alarm-notifier? | 09:42 |
| asac | probably | 09:43 |
| asac | oh that calendar thing then | 09:43 |
| asac | killall evolution-alarm-notify | 09:43 |
| asac | thats what i ran ;) | 09:43 |
| pitti | e-a-n is started by defualt, to remind you of your appointments, etc. | 09:43 |
| seb128 | slomo: perhaps you could sync the ubuntu glib changes for the gettext domain to debian? | 10:02 |
| asac | mvo: do you remember what you did to my mini9? | 10:02 |
| asac | it still has the ugly default gtk theme | 10:02 |
| seb128 | slomo: the debian version of this change is outdated and we could sync it this way | 10:02 |
| mvo | asac: a bunch of stuff, not in detail | 10:02 |
| mvo | asac: sorry | 10:02 |
| mvo | asac: I also may need to bug you about doing some compiz startups on it (for profiling) | 10:02 |
| asac | mvo: as long as i dont need to type ... | 10:04 |
| seb128 | mvo: the "you need to restart now" dialog is listed as "no title" in the taskslist, known issue? | 10:24 |
| dholbach | pitti, seb128: any idea about the retracer in bug 331462, bug 331924, bug 331774, bug 331740, bug 330621? (and if you have any idea about the crashes themselves, that's be nice too :-)) | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Bug 331462 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331462 is private | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Bug 331924 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331924 is private | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Bug 331774 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331774 is private | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Bug 331740 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/331740 is private | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Bug 330621 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/330621 is private | 10:34 |
| seb128 | dholbach: yours seems to be a corruption, valgrind log requried | 10:35 |
| seb128 | dholbach: what about the retracer? they did their job correctly? | 10:35 |
| seb128 | no idea about the bug I never got it but I don't use tabs | 10:35 |
| dholbach | seb128: doesn' the retracer un-private the bugs and remove attachments and stuff? | 10:36 |
| seb128 | no | 10:36 |
| seb128 | just when duplicating | 10:36 |
| dholbach | aha! | 10:36 |
| seb128 | it can't know if there is no password in the stacktrace | 10:36 |
| * dholbach didn't know | 10:36 | |
| seb128 | somebody has to look at it | 10:36 |
| asac | it removes coredumps when it has a perfect seeming backtrace afaik | 10:36 |
| seb128 | dholbach: new to ubuntu? ;-) | 10:36 |
| asac | but doesnt unprivate until someone looked at it | 10:36 |
| asac | dholbach is far far away in the community team ;) | 10:37 |
| seb128 | dholbach: stacktrace can have private informations | 10:37 |
| dholbach | ok ok | 10:37 |
| dholbach | blllllllllllllll | 10:37 |
| asac | hehe ;) | 10:37 |
| seb128 | dholbach: somebody needs to check those before making it public to make sure not to disclose anything which should not | 10:37 |
| * dholbach stops reporting bugs | 10:37 | |
| seb128 | lol | 10:37 |
| * seb128 hugs dholbach | 10:37 | |
| dholbach | seb128: do they all look like memory corruption? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | dholbach: if you still have you bugzilla account please open the bug on bugzilla.gnome.org | 10:38 |
| pitti | dholbach: retracer-wise they seem to be quite alright? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | no, crash in g_free() are | 10:38 |
| dholbach | pitti: ok, my misunderstanding | 10:38 |
| dholbach | seb128: I sent like 3 of them | 10:38 |
| dholbach | all different | 10:38 |
| pitti | dholbach: oh, you mean we should auto-remove CoreDump.gz? | 10:38 |
| seb128 | dholbach: they are duplicates I think | 10:39 |
| dholbach | pitti: it was my misunderstanding, it's all good | 10:39 |
| seb128 | dholbach: crash in free or malloc = corruption | 10:39 |
| asac | we do that when there is no problem in stacktrace afaik | 10:39 |
| * pitti hugs dholbach | 10:39 | |
| asac | (removing coredump= | 10:39 |
| seb128 | dholbach: corruption = random stacktrace | 10:39 |
| dholbach | seb128: not going to be fun to valgrind gnome-terminal - it sometimes takes an hour until it crashes | 10:39 |
| dholbach | or longer | 10:40 |
| asac | dholbach: sometimes stuff happens easier with valgrind | 10:40 |
| seb128 | well, could might get a valgrind error quickly | 10:40 |
| seb128 | it might not crash but do invalid reads or writes anyway | 10:40 |
| dholbach | but it's consistenly crashing every now and then if I ctrl-d out of a session and close a tab with that (since two days) | 10:40 |
| dholbach | ok, I'll check it out | 10:40 |
| seb128 | in which case you should get the error every time you dnd a tab or whatever you do to get the bug | 10:40 |
| dholbach | luckily I always saved stuff in other tabs, when I closed sessions in another one | 10:41 |
| dholbach | if you don't use tabs a lot, try it yourself too! :) | 10:41 |
| seb128 | I don't use tab and got no such crash yet | 10:41 |
| dholbach | then start using tabs! :) | 10:41 |
| * dholbach will look into valgrinding :) | 10:41 | |
| dholbach | thanks a bunch everybody | 10:42 |
| * seb128 tries valgrind | 10:42 | |
| dholbach | pedro had one of those too | 10:42 |
| seb128 | it's not so slow under valgrind | 10:43 |
| dholbach | ok | 10:43 |
| dholbach | asac is probably right with "far away in community land" - I didn't even have valgrind installed on the laptop | 10:45 |
| asac | lol | 10:45 |
| mnemo | dholbach: you spawn several new valgrinding hackers per month so I guess that fine? | 10:46 |
| dholbach | I hope so | 10:46 |
| * asac sees strange carrier detect issues with forcedeth wired driver | 10:51 | |
| asac | anyone has a (not-) working wired setup on latest jaunty here? | 10:51 |
| seb128 | asac: what do you mean? I've a wired cable I can plug on my laptop but I'm using the wireless right now | 10:53 |
| seb128 | asac: ie I can test something if you want | 10:53 |
| asac | seb128: what driver are you using? | 10:54 |
| asac | seb128: can you try to plug in your wired and see if NM wants to connect to it= | 10:54 |
| seb128 | asac: iwl3945 | 10:54 |
| asac | ? | 10:54 |
| seb128 | sure, one sec | 10:54 |
| asac | seb128: yeah. i wonder about wired | 10:54 |
| asac | i have strange issues on e1000e and forcedeth driver (former always thinks there is carrier, the later never detects carrier in NM) | 10:54 |
| asac | so i wonder whats going on with the other drivers | 10:55 |
| seb128 | asac: the applet spinned | 10:55 |
| seb128 | I've auto eth2 and the wireless selected in the list now | 10:55 |
| seb128 | and I didn't lost my connection | 10:55 |
| seb128 | or got the same dhcp ip again | 10:55 |
| seb128 | ie irc is still working | 10:55 |
| seb128 | ok I've both connections activated according to the nm-applet dialog | 10:56 |
| seb128 | and one IP on each | 10:56 |
| asac | seb128: and you didnt loose connection? are boith connected to same subnet then i guess? | 10:56 |
| seb128 | I'm still typing on IRC so I guess I didn't get disconnected | 10:56 |
| seb128 | yeah, I've only one local IP class there they have IP from the same dhcp | 10:57 |
| seb128 | ie 192.168.... | 10:57 |
| seb128 | asac: when me to try something else? | 10:58 |
| dholbach | hiya pedro_! | 10:58 |
| seb128 | pedro_: hey mr bot | 10:58 |
| dholbach | pedro_: just talked to seb128 about the gnome-terminal/vte thing | 10:58 |
| asac | seb128: look at route -n please | 10:59 |
| dholbach | pedro_: and I'm running gnome-terminal in valgrind on both machines now | 10:59 |
| asac | does the default go through wired now? | 10:59 |
| pedro_ | dholbach, seb128 hey hey | 10:59 |
| asac | seb128: please look i applet in "Connection Information" and tell me the driver too | 10:59 |
| asac | seb128: also tell me what NM version you are running | 10:59 |
| asac | then i have all info i wanted ;) | 10:59 |
| seb128 | asac: yes, eth2 default | 11:00 |
| seb128 | asac: tg3 | 11:00 |
| seb128 | pedro_: have you read bug #331767 | 11:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331767 in ubuntu "Please kill the Pedro Villavicencio bot" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331767 | 11:01 |
| pedro_ | dholbach: awesome!, attach the logs and i'll take care of sending those upstream | 11:01 |
| pedro_ | WTH | 11:01 |
| dholbach | pedro_: hasn't crashed yet :) | 11:02 |
| pedro_ | lol | 11:02 |
| asac | seb128: ok. do you have the 0.7.1~rc1 packages yet or ~2009 ? | 11:02 |
| asac | network-manager | 11:02 |
| seb128 | asac: 2009 | 11:02 |
| asac | ok | 11:02 |
| seb128 | do you want to retry with the new version? | 11:03 |
| asac | in case you see issues in the rc1 packages let me know | 11:03 |
| asac | seb128: no. no need to | 11:03 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:03 |
| asac | i dont think that this is caused by rc1 ... there are jus a few more commits | 11:03 |
| seb128 | brb | 11:03 |
| slomo | seb128: ok | 11:23 |
| seb128 | slomo: thanks | 11:23 |
| seb128 | slomo: no hurry but next time you do an update | 11:23 |
| mnemo | pedro_: will this upstream fix be imported into jaunty automatically or is it worth the time to do a debdiff for it? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/328632 | 11:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 328632 in gnome-control-center "gnome-thumbnail-font high cpu usage" [Medium,Fix committed] | 11:35 |
| pedro_ | mnemo: yes it's going to make it for jaunty in the next tarball they roll | 11:38 |
| mnemo | in general, how can I tell if a new tarball is coming for a given package? | 11:38 |
| pedro_ | mnemo: looking at the release schedule ? ;-) | 11:39 |
| pedro_ | mnemo: http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyfive | 11:39 |
| pedro_ | there's still 2.25.92 to come out the first week of march | 11:40 |
| mnemo | ah, so all gnome tarball releases automatically go into ubuntu | 11:41 |
| pedro_ | seb128automatically | 11:42 |
| mnemo | heh I see | 11:42 |
| mnemo | and how can I tell which gnome libs and apps are automatically tarballed and merged into ubuntu? obviously glib is always included but fringe apps like ghex might not be? | 11:42 |
| mnemo | is there a set of core gnome apps that seb always merges? | 11:42 |
| davmor2 | Guys with the new notify system if you try and change the position it doesn't is this known? | 11:43 |
| mnemo | davmor2: not sure if its a known issue but it repros on my box as well | 11:45 |
| davmor2 | bugging it now | 11:47 |
| davmor2 | mnemo: bug 332014 | 11:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332014 in ubuntu "Jaunty: new notification system does move when using popup notifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332014 | 11:57 |
| james_w | davmor2: where did you change the setting? | 12:06 |
| mpt | davmor2, are you referring to the utility shown in <http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=103955&d=1235085755>? | 12:06 |
| * mpt just came across that screenshot and wondered where that window comes from | 12:06 | |
| james_w | mpt: is it notification-daemon: /usr/bin/notification-properties ? | 12:08 |
| james_w | (I can't see the screenshot as I'm not logged in to the forums) | 12:08 |
| mpt | ah | 12:08 |
| james_w | new in Jaunty I believe | 12:08 |
| mpt | bash: /usr/bin/notification-properties: No such file or directory | 12:08 |
| mpt | hm, that poses a problem for stracciatella | 12:09 |
| davmor2 | mpt: is that the new black see through notification? | 12:09 |
| mpt | davmor2, it's a window called "Notification Settings", which is not related to and does not influence the new black see-through notifications | 12:10 |
| mpt | is that what you used? | 12:10 |
| davmor2 | mpt: I used System->Preferences->Pop-up Notifications | 12:12 |
| mpt | Ah, that's what the person on the forum used too | 12:12 |
| mpt | I can see how that would confuse people | 12:13 |
| davmor2 | mpt: they are notifications so yes it would be :) | 12:14 |
| james_w | it shouldn't be installed if you use the new notifications though? | 12:14 |
| davmor2 | james_w: I did the install yesterday and updated this morning | 12:15 |
| james_w | davmor2: dpkg -S /usr/bin/notification-properties | 12:15 |
| james_w | davmor2: and "dpkg -l notifcation-daemon" please | 12:16 |
| james_w | "dpkg -l notification-daemon" I mean | 12:16 |
| davmor2 | james_w: no packages found matching notification-deamon | 12:18 |
| james_w | daemon not deamon :-) | 12:19 |
| james_w | did the dpkg -S return anything? | 12:19 |
| davmor2 | james_w: notification-daemon 0.4.0-0ubuntu2 | 12:20 |
| james_w | but you get the click-through notifications? | 12:20 |
| davmor2 | james_w: -S = notification-daemon: /usr/bin/notification-properties | 12:21 |
| james_w | ah, got it | 12:21 |
| james_w | fix forthcoming | 12:21 |
| davmor2 | james_w: Yes I can't interact with them | 12:21 |
| mpt | davmor2, I'm updating your bug report to include these details | 12:21 |
| davmor2 | thanks | 12:21 |
| mpt | james_w, what package should it be? | 12:22 |
| * mpt guesses notify-osd | 12:23 | |
| james_w | could somebody in ~ubuntu-desktop review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/aachen/ubuntu.fix-conflicts please? | 12:25 |
| james_w | then merge to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~james-w/aachen/ubuntu and upload if it's ok | 12:26 |
| davmor2 | mpt: I didn't know what it was called at all | 12:26 |
| james_w | yeah, the bug is in notify-osd, but the issue is that notification-deamon shouldn't be installed at all | 12:27 |
| mpt | james_w, I think that's how we originally had it, but that it was changed for Stracciatella | 12:28 |
| mpt | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Jaunty/StracciatellaSession | 12:28 |
| * mpt is momentarily disoriented by Google returning the wiki.edubuntu.org version of that page instead of the wiki.ubuntu.com one | 12:29 | |
| james_w | oh, damn | 12:30 |
| james_w | it's a deeper issue then | 12:31 |
| james_w | my fix is wrong, so I deleted the branch | 12:32 |
| Mez | davmor2: stop causing trouble | 12:34 |
| Ng | is the jaunty gdm crasher fixed? pondering an upgrade ;) | 12:36 |
| davmor2 | yes | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | Ng: yes | 12:36 |
| Ng | ooh :) | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | Ng: upgrade and restaret | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | is it known that System menu is lacking shutdown/restart menu entry? | 12:37 |
| Mez | It's in FUSA now isnt it ? | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | that would assume i knew where FUSA is but i will look for it | 12:38 |
| Mez | add applet, user switcher | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | its there if you mean my name in upper panael | 12:38 |
| Mez | yeah | 12:39 |
| Mez | the shutdown etc is there | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | no it isnt | 12:39 |
| Mez | should be. | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | not in the prefferences either. I didnt fine a shutdown applet | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | s/didnt/did | 12:40 |
| Mez | click on your name, that doesnt give you a shutdown options | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | ah i was right clicking it | 12:40 |
| gnomefreak | thanks. so it officialy moved? | 12:40 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: system menu doesn't show them any more if fusa is running | 12:41 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: that's indended, yes | 12:41 |
| gnomefreak | pitti: ok thanks | 12:41 |
| pitti | if you don't have fusa, it's still there | 12:41 |
| Mez | so which devvy has been using the new release name ? :-" | 12:42 |
| mvo | tseliot: thanks for the nvidia-common update, it looks like it works just fine (my upgrade test is now much happier than yesterday :) | 12:46 |
| * Ng files first jaunty bug | 12:52 | |
| tseliot | mvo: good | 13:02 |
| Mez | 13:06 | |
| kenvandine | good morning all! | 13:11 |
| pedro_ | morning kenvandine :-) | 13:13 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine | 13:14 |
| seb128 | hey | 13:15 |
| seb128 | hello rickspencer3 | 13:28 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: hi | 13:29 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 13:51 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: morning | 13:51 |
| * kenvandine finds it interesting that the plugin-manager in evolution is a plugin | 13:52 | |
| crdlb | and the extensions-manager-ui in epiphany is an extension :) | 13:54 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | at least they put code in to prevent it from being disabled :) | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | that would suck | 13:55 |
| Davedan | does the intrepid have as deaftul X or gtk installed? | 13:55 |
| seb128 | Davedan: what does that mean a default gtk installed? | 13:57 |
| seb128 | or X installed | 13:58 |
| Davedan | seb128: I want to install emacs but there is one package for X11 and one for gtk | 13:58 |
| seb128 | try asking on #ubuntu rather | 13:58 |
| Davedan | k | 13:59 |
| seb128 | this channel is for desktop work | 13:59 |
| pitti | kenvandine, seb128, rickspencer3: call now? | 14:00 |
| seb128 | pitti: right | 14:01 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm setting up the call now | 14:01 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: pitti: kenvandine: are you guys dialed | 14:02 |
| rickspencer3 | in? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: dialing now | 14:02 |
| didrocks | mvo: done, bug #332057 | 14:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332057 in totem "Please, sponsor totem 2.25.91 into jaunty" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332057 | 14:17 |
| mvo | didrocks: merging now, thanks | 14:25 |
| mvo | didrocks: hm, what is the branch name? | 14:25 |
| didrocks | mvo: you can see it linked to the bug, ~didrocks/totem/ubuntu | 14:26 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: I added a couple of things to the release status wiki page | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | pitti: ready when you are :) | 14:31 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: oh, thanks | 14:31 |
| mvo | didrocks: ff is so slow ;) | 14:31 |
| didrocks | mvo: yeah, I know, but I just tried once epiphany + webkit (I am an old Galeon user) but never switched for good :) | 14:32 |
| pitti | kenvandine, seb128: can you join #packaging-intro? otherwise we'll clutter the existing discussion here too much | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | mvo: it's fine if you have like 12G of ram :) | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | sure | 14:33 |
| mvo | haha | 14:33 |
| * kenvandine love epiphany :) | 14:33 | |
| kenvandine | +s | 14:33 |
| didrocks | ;) | 14:34 |
| === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth | ||
| seb128 | mvo: I'm moving g-c-c bzr to the ubuntu-desktop team btw | 16:01 |
| seb128 | mvo: in case you want to checkout the current code | 16:01 |
| dobey | seb128: does bug #296570 seem like a dpkg issue to you, rather than an gnome-icon-theme issue? the report shows the totem package having a similar issue... | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 296570 in gnome-icon-theme "package gnome-icon-theme 2.22.0-1ubuntu2 [modified: usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/stock/data/stock_format-scientific.png] failed to install/upgrade: unable to make backup symlink for `./usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/mimetypes/spreadsheet.svg': No such file or directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296570 | 16:02 |
| mvo | seb128: aha, thanks | 16:03 |
| seb128 | mvo: any idea about dobey's question? | 16:05 |
| mvo | seb128: is that a friendly way of saysing: "work on the patch" ;) | 16:05 |
| seb128 | mvo: no, just telling you to get the source there I'm doing change and I don't want you to work on an outdated revision ;-) | 16:05 |
| mvo | dobey: that is most likely someone running wubi | 16:05 |
| dobey | heh | 16:05 |
| mvo | dobey: there seems to be a issue with vfat on some kernels | 16:06 |
| dobey | well i was just looking at the gnome-icon-theme bugs in lp, since i'm the upstream :) | 16:06 |
| dobey | and that one seemed very much not gnome-icon-theme specific | 16:06 |
| mvo | dobey: everything that come straight from hell^Wdpkg can probably ingnored from the upstrema perspective :) | 16:06 |
| dobey | so i was going to reassign it, but wasn't sure where :) | 16:07 |
| mvo | dobey: I will see if I can find the bugnumber (may take a bit) | 16:07 |
| dobey | mvo: no worries. thanks :) | 16:08 |
| mvo | dobey: reassigned now :) | 16:09 |
| dobey | wunderbar! :) | 16:10 |
| mvo | seb128: hi, do you happy to know why we have both tsclient and vinagre in the default? | 16:22 |
| seb128 | mvo: because vinagre doesn't do everything tsclient does | 16:23 |
| mvo | seb128: ok, fair enough | 16:23 |
| seb128 | mvo: ie rdp I think | 16:23 |
| seb128 | mvo: but vinagre is upstream GNOME and a better vnc client | 16:24 |
| mvo | seb128: ok, thanks | 16:24 |
| mvo | seb128: I got asked in #ubuntu+1 | 16:24 |
| seb128 | waouh, you hang on user channels? I'm impressed ;-) | 16:24 |
| mvo | asac: do you have a idea about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/289396 ? | 16:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 289396 in gdebi "Gdebi can't install package if firefox is closed too soon" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:24 |
| mvo | seb128: yeah, time to kill ;) | 16:24 |
| asac | mvo: yes. | 16:25 |
| seb128 | no wonder you don't review the sponsoring requests ;-) | 16:25 |
| mvo | seb128: seriously, #ubuntu+1 is often good for early upgrade test problem reports, I keep a eye open there | 16:25 |
| asac | gdebi should copy the file to its own destination right in the beginning | 16:25 |
| mvo | seb128: I have a highlight on update-manager there | 16:25 |
| asac | when firefox closes it removes its temp files | 16:25 |
| mvo | asac: thanks, will do that | 16:25 |
| asac | mvo: does gdebi return before finishing? | 16:26 |
| mvo | asac: is there a way to know that it was FF that put the file there? is it using some directory that we could use? | 16:26 |
| asac | i mean the commadn line | 16:26 |
| mvo | no | 16:26 |
| asac | strange then. probably a forced close | 16:26 |
| asac | i would have thought that it doesnt close completely if there is still an exec running | 16:26 |
| mvo | I mean, making a copy of every deb just because it might be ran from FF is a bit silly :) | 16:26 |
| asac | mvo: no. unfortunately not | 16:26 |
| asac | mvo: you can only look at the parent process | 16:27 |
| mvo | *weehh* | 16:27 |
| mvo | ok | 16:27 |
| asac | but its true for all mozillas | 16:27 |
| asac | so it would be dirty | 16:27 |
| asac | to just look for firefox | 16:27 |
| mvo | if os.path.exists("/usr/bin/firefox"): use_more_space() | 16:27 |
| mvo | just kidding | 16:27 |
| mvo | thanks, I think going for the partent it sensible | 16:27 |
| asac | mvo: well. parent is bad | 16:28 |
| mvo | what is better? | 16:28 |
| asac | if so run a ldd on the parent process and guess whether its a mozilla thing ;) | 16:28 |
| asac | mvo: i would think there is no better way than copying it | 16:28 |
| asac | all the time | 16:28 |
| mvo | uff | 16:28 |
| asac | mvo: do that only if its in /tmp/ | 16:29 |
| mvo | hm, I can not flock it for something | 16:29 |
| mvo | ok, /tmp $TMPDIR is it then | 16:29 |
| asac | thats beyond my knowledge. if flock helps to defer removal | 16:29 |
| asac | thats ok | 16:29 |
| asac | yeah | 16:29 |
| asac | i think thats safe | 16:29 |
| mvo | asac: thanks, I will try that then | 16:30 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| mvo | asac: will move work? or will it keep the fd oepn? (or fall over if the file is suddenly no longer there?) | 16:33 |
| asac | mvo: imo dpkg should learn to deal with piped in memory ;) | 16:33 |
| mvo | ian! | 16:33 |
| asac | hehe | 16:33 |
| asac | you could just load it quickly and then dont care if ffox goes down | 16:33 |
| asac | mvo: move will keep it open | 16:34 |
| asac | i wont risk that | 16:34 |
| asac | would have to look how the removal is done though | 16:34 |
| asac | maybe they dont use the fd | 16:34 |
| mvo | asac: thanks, don't worry | 16:34 |
| mvo | asac: I just try it out | 16:34 |
| asac | hehe | 16:34 |
| asac | really ... use copy ;) | 16:34 |
| asac | mvo: you could directly move it to /var/cache/apt/archives | 16:35 |
| asac | err copy | 16:35 |
| asac | ;) | 16:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, rickspencer3: do you know what was the change request about font hinting we had during the sprint exactly? | 16:44 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: yes | 16:44 |
| pitti | seb128: uh, no, sorry; I just remember dropping the hardcoded 96 dpi value | 16:44 |
| rickspencer3 | System->Preference->Appearance->Font Tab | 16:44 |
| rickspencer3 | select Subpixel Smoothing as the default | 16:45 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15004637/gnome-control-center_1%3A2.22.1-0ubuntu4_1%3A2.22.1-0ubuntu5.diff.gz | 16:45 |
| rickspencer3 | currently it's "Best Shapes" | 16:45 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: I think that's why it changed | 16:45 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: can you read the changelog comment and tell me what you think | 16:45 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: ^ | 16:46 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: any opinion about that since you did the "controversial change"? | 16:47 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: I'm a little fuzzy on this, but I think that may be orthagonal | 16:47 |
| seb128 | I've to admit I don't know enough about fonts hinting to have an opinion on that | 16:47 |
| rickspencer3 | I think that patch changes the details of "best shape" | 16:47 |
| Keybuk | seb128: which change is controversial? | 16:48 |
| Keybuk | oh | 16:48 |
| Keybuk | that patch? | 16:48 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: I was wondering if http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15004637/gnome-control-center_1%3A2.22.1-0ubuntu4_1%3A2.22.1-0ubuntu5.diff.gz what was people pointed during the sprint | 16:48 |
| Keybuk | it changes subpixel smoothing's hinting | 16:48 |
| Keybuk | it's the Right Thing | 16:48 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: but apparently that's something else | 16:48 |
| Keybuk | "people"? "pointed"? "sprint"? | 16:48 |
| rickspencer3 | Keybuk: change to subpixel smoothing by default is good, right? | 16:49 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: "Best Shapes" is default where it should be "Subpixer Smoothing", does it make sense to you? | 16:49 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm 99% certain that was the outcome of the discussion | 16:49 |
| * rickspencer3 dog pile on Keybuk | 16:50 | |
| seb128 | Keybuk: well, rickspencer3 said we have to change the default "Best Shapes" -> "Subpixel Smoothing" | 16:50 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: By "have to", this was a sabdfl request | 16:50 |
| rickspencer3 | so it is turns out to be the wrong thing, I can discuss him and Julian ... | 16:50 |
| rickspencer3 | however, I think there was agreement that it's the right hting | 16:51 |
| seb128 | I've no clue if that's right or not | 16:51 |
| seb128 | that's why I try to ask Keybuk's opinion ;-) | 16:51 |
| Keybuk | seb128: \o/ | 16:51 |
| Keybuk | rickspencer3: I agree | 16:51 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: that would be a fontconfig change rather than a GNOME one no? | 16:51 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: yeah, by "agreement" I meant, "I asked Keybuck and he said it was a good thing" ;) | 16:52 |
| Keybuk | seb128: both I think | 16:53 |
| oo-dragon_ | hey can some one help me mount JBOD? (have 2x 1TB drives setup in JBOD from my DNS-323 NAS) | 16:54 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: do you know what to change in fontconfig exactly? | 16:56 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: could you add that to your todolist if you have a clue about that? otherwise I will have a look to it but I've no clue about fontconfig and that could take some time | 16:57 |
| Keybuk | seb128: no, arjan knows about fontconfig | 16:58 |
| Keybuk | I've always thought the fontconfig stuff is wrong | 16:58 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: would it help if I created a launchpad bug for this? | 17:02 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: yes please do it will make easier to keep track of it (it's on my todolist but that will make easier to subscribe some other people on the way) | 17:02 |
| pitti | seb128: do you happen to have a brilliant idea about bug 332014 ? | 17:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332014 in notification-daemon ""Notification Settings" is available but has no effect when Notify OSD is used" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332014 | 17:22 |
| seb128 | pitti: TryExec on the .divert? | 17:23 |
| pitti | oh, what's TryExec? | 17:23 |
| seb128 | pitti: the menu item is displayed only if the command in TryExec=command is available | 17:24 |
| pitti | seb128: it needs to check $GDMSESSION, not file availability | 17:24 |
| seb128 | pitti: my best idea is to change the vanilla session to have a wrapper, make it touch /tmp/vanilla and tryexec= that one | 17:25 |
| seb128 | that's hackish though and we would need to clean the file at session closing | 17:25 |
| * seb128 tries to think to a better way | 17:25 | |
| pitti | seb128: ah, I see what you mean | 17:26 |
| seb128 | pitti: other idea is to to add a new type to OnlyShowIn= list being vanilla and patch gnome-menus to handle this one | 17:27 |
| pitti | seb128: /tmp/vanilla is tricky, since in world-writable locations you need to use unpredictable file names, and in $HOME it conflicts with parallel sessions | 17:28 |
| pitti | seb128: I like OnlyShowIn=gnome-stracciatella best so far, I think | 17:28 |
| seb128 | pitti: you can use user-gnome-session-pid | 17:28 |
| seb128 | hum no | 17:29 |
| seb128 | the .desktop is not dynamic | 17:29 |
| pitti | seb128: still predictable | 17:29 |
| pitti | well, it's not such a big deal anyway, but it's indeed a wart | 17:29 |
| seb128 | the issue with OnlyShowIn is what about users who decide to apt-get remove notify-osd on normal ubuntu? | 17:29 |
| seb128 | pitti: the menu spec allows merging .menus | 17:30 |
| * pitti ponders just dropping this menu item completely | 17:30 | |
| seb128 | pitti: we could perhaps have specific ignore rules in a directory and use this one for normal session, or reverse, special display rules to use for gnome-stracciatella | 17:31 |
| pitti | it doesn't seem to make much sense to me in the first place | 17:31 |
| seb128 | pitti: for jaunty easy workaround -> add NoDisplay=true | 17:31 |
| oo-dragon | sweet | 17:31 |
| oo-dragon | got my data off NAS! :D | 17:31 |
| pitti | seb128: and see who complains? :-) | 17:31 |
| seb128 | yes ;-) | 17:31 |
| pitti | seb128: until now I wasn't even aware that it exists | 17:32 |
| seb128 | you can still unmask it using alacarte | 17:32 |
| seb128 | quite some users use it apparently | 17:32 |
| pitti | seb128: I like your slashaxe approach *grin* | 17:32 |
| seb128 | there is a notification-daemon crasher when changing theme which has a lot of duplicates | 17:32 |
| seb128 | I'm trying to get mvo to review the change for some weeks | 17:32 |
| seb128 | but assigning him bugs and adding nag comments seems to have no effects on him | 17:33 |
| * seb128 looks at mvo | 17:33 | |
| seb128 | ;-) | 17:33 |
| * pitti sees mvo crash with a stack overflow | 17:33 | |
| * seb128 knows the stack overflow feeling too | 17:34 | |
| * mvo_ has seb128 in his ignore list | 17:37 | |
| dholbach | mvo_: WHAT? I CAN NOT HEAR YOU? | 17:38 |
| dholbach | :-) | 17:38 |
| mvo_ | haha | 17:38 |
| mvo_ | :) | 17:38 |
| mvo_ | seb128: looking at it now | 17:38 |
| didrocks | mvo_: thanks for the sponsoring :) | 17:39 |
| seb128 | mvo_: I noticed don't worry ;-) | 17:39 |
| seb128 | I'm pondering using the dholbach's way | 17:40 |
| dholbach | seb128: what do you mean? | 17:40 |
| * didrocks remarked that seb128 like the verb "ponder" :) | 17:40 | |
| didrocks | likes* | 17:40 |
| didrocks | noticed* | 17:40 |
| seb128 | weekly "you slackers see everything which is waiting for you" emails | 17:40 |
| * seb128 hugs dholbach | 17:40 | |
| * didrocks goes away to learn how to speak English :) | 17:41 | |
| mvo_ | oh hrm | 17:41 |
| mvo_ | it crashes on free lets just not do free() than | 17:41 |
| dholbach | seb128: I'll tell your manager that you're not reading your emails! I haven't sent them in quite a while :) | 17:41 |
| seb128 | mvo_: ;-) | 17:41 |
| didrocks | mvo_: memory leaks are good for your computers :) | 17:41 |
| seb128 | dholbach: I do read emails, I just have proper filtering for such things ;-) | 17:41 |
| dholbach | that explains a lot | 17:42 |
| seb128 | that's the mvo way | 17:42 |
| * seb128 has dholbach in his ignore list | 17:42 | |
| seb128 | :-P | 17:42 |
| * dholbach storms out! | 17:42 | |
| seb128 | come back daniel! | 17:42 |
| seb128 | pitti: btw I just fixed the "don't call jockey when switching between normal and extra desktop effects" | 17:43 |
| seb128 | pitti: I don't think that's worth a sru I will close the intrepid task | 17:44 |
| pitti | seb128: cool, thanks | 17:44 |
| pitti | seb128: *nod* | 17:44 |
| * seb128 reviews the oem "please add scrollbars" patches now | 17:44 | |
| maxb | Does anyone know if you can override /usr/share/dbus-1/services/foo with ~/.local/share/dbus-1/services/foo ? The XDG spec suggests that you should be able to, but it didn't seem to work for me | 17:58 |
| maxb | (I wanted to override notify-osd -> notification-daemon, but only that, not the full straciatella) | 17:58 |
| rickspencer3 | tseliot: any news to share? | 18:01 |
| seb128 | maxb: sudo apt-get remove notify-osd? | 18:03 |
| maxb | Don't particularly want to remove ubuntu-desktop | 18:03 |
| tseliot | rickspencer3: when it's all official maybe ;) | 18:04 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: ping | 18:36 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: pong | 18:36 |
| bratsche | Hey dude. | 18:36 |
| kenvandine | hey bratsche | 18:36 |
| kenvandine | i am messing with banshee | 18:36 |
| kenvandine | you had submitted the patch to behave with notify-osd? | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | bz# 571177 | 18:37 |
| bratsche | Yeah | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | does it work for you? | 18:37 |
| bratsche | It worked for me, yeah.. is it not working for you? | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | nope :) | 18:37 |
| bratsche | Crashing, or something else? | 18:37 |
| kenvandine | i am getting notifications i have to click on for song changes | 18:38 |
| kenvandine | i added some WriteLines in there and they aren't printing... so it doesn't even seem to get into that code | 18:38 |
| bratsche | I think I don't understand.. | 18:38 |
| kenvandine | just a note, i am applying the patch against 1.4.2 | 18:38 |
| bratsche | I thought the only change was that it potentially removes the "Next Song" button? | 18:39 |
| kenvandine | the skip button? | 18:39 |
| kenvandine | i thought it would remove the action all together | 18:39 |
| bratsche | Maybe I'm misunderstanding the intent.. I thought it should still show the popup bubble but remove the button from it? | 18:40 |
| kenvandine | yeah... it should | 18:40 |
| kenvandine | but i get the buttons | 18:40 |
| kenvandine | skip, cancel, and ok | 18:40 |
| bratsche | And if you click them? | 18:40 |
| kenvandine | they work and it goes away | 18:40 |
| bratsche | Okay, cool. | 18:40 |
| kenvandine | but i don't want to have to click on them :) | 18:40 |
| kenvandine | so we should still see the buttons? | 18:41 |
| bratsche | So it only removes them conditionally, if the notification server does not support actions. | 18:41 |
| bratsche | That was my understanding of the bug. | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | right... | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | it should | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | but i am still getting them | 18:41 |
| bratsche | If you still see the buttons and can click them, then clearly your notification server supports actions. | 18:41 |
| bratsche | Right? | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | it doesn't | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | ted helped me verify that | 18:41 |
| kenvandine | pidgin-libnotify is doing the right thing | 18:42 |
| bratsche | If it didn't then how would clicking the button send the signal to banshee? | 18:42 |
| kenvandine | as are other things | 18:42 |
| dobey | kenvandine: you get a dialog instead of the notification? | 18:42 |
| kenvandine | banshee is the only one giving me grief | 18:42 |
| kenvandine | yes | 18:42 |
| dobey | kenvandine: my understanding is that you get a dialog if the notifications have urls or actions | 18:42 |
| kenvandine | yeah... this patch should be removing the action if the daemon doesn't support it | 18:42 |
| dobey | oh it queries the daemon to ask if it supports it? | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: ted had me use d-feet to verify the capabilities | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | yes | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: so pidgin is doing that properly now | 18:43 |
| dobey | that sounds nasty | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | as is gwibber | 18:43 |
| kenvandine | but in banshee it thinks it still supports it | 18:43 |
| bratsche | Weird.. okay, I'll look into this. | 18:44 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: the really puzzling thing for me is i don't get anything debugging info printed out if i add Console.WriteLine in there | 18:44 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: i have a package with the patch in my ppa | 18:44 |
| kenvandine | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/+archive/ppa | 18:44 |
| bratsche | I'm on my laptop in Dublin now and I don't have any mp3s or oggs.. let me see if someone in the room has two I can use to test with. | 18:44 |
| bratsche | Okay, Hagen is giving me some mp3s. | 18:47 |
| kenvandine | great | 18:48 |
| kenvandine | thx man | 18:48 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: Ah yes, now I see exactly what you're talking about. | 19:07 |
| bratsche | Suckfest. | 19:07 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: Yeah, I'll fix that. | 19:07 |
| kenvandine | great | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | woot | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | if you get a patch, can you pass it my way? | 19:08 |
| bratsche | Sorry about that.. I think I didn't have the new notification server installed when I tested, and I didn't realize it would work that way. | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | this is killing me :) | 19:08 |
| bratsche | Yeah of course. | 19:08 |
| bratsche | Give me a few minutes. | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | awesome | 19:08 |
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| bratsche | wtf, having trouble building now. | 19:31 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: mind sharing the patch and i can try to build? | 19:31 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: I don't have a patch yet.. what I want to do is.. | 19:33 |
| bratsche | in src/Extensions/Banshee.NotificationArea/Notifications/Notification.cs | 19:33 |
| bratsche | Find public void AddAction () | 19:33 |
| bratsche | And do this: | 19:33 |
| bratsche | foreach (string s in Notifications.Global.Capabilities) Console.WriteLine (s); | 19:33 |
| bratsche | I think I see why it's not building.. | 19:34 |
| kenvandine | you mean Notification.cs | 19:34 |
| bratsche | src/Extensions/Banshee.NotificationArea/Notifications/Notification.cs | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | yes | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | i'll try | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | but ... i added some WriteLines in that area... and didn't get anything | 19:36 |
| bratsche | I guess that would explain the problem, actually. | 19:38 |
| bratsche | I'm confused about the state of my branch too.. I pulled my branch down from lp and it does not contain my change to AddAction(), but when I view diff -r 77..78 then I see my patch. It's not removed again in 78..79 and the current revno is 79. | 19:40 |
| bratsche | Oh duh, I see.. nm. | 19:41 |
| bratsche | I put it in an actual patch in the debian directory, not in the branch's source. | 19:41 |
| bratsche | Sorry, I'm not used to working downstream in the distro yet. :) | 19:41 |
| dobey | heh | 19:42 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: It's building now too, so I should be able to debug this now. | 19:42 |
| kenvandine | ok | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: so that isn't printing anything out for me | 19:45 |
| kenvandine | so either it is never getting in there, or... the are catching all the writelines | 19:45 |
| bratsche | It must not be getting there now. | 19:46 |
| bratsche | It was last week, so it's behaving different with the new notification server. | 19:46 |
| kenvandine | ok | 19:47 |
| kenvandine | that was my thought | 19:47 |
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| bratsche | kenvandine: This is fucking weird. Notification.Notification() constructor is getting called if you insert a C.WL() there, but if you insert a C.WL() at the beginning of Notification.AddAction() it never gets called.. | 20:00 |
| bratsche | But NotificationAreaService.cs does: | 20:00 |
| kenvandine | bazaar! | 20:00 |
| bratsche | if (interface_actions_service.PlaybackActions["NextActions"].Sensitive { | 20:01 |
| bratsche | nf.AddAction(); | 20:01 |
| bratsche | } | 20:01 |
| bratsche | But .Sensitive is true | 20:01 |
| bratsche | So I'm getting confused. | 20:01 |
| * kenvandine looks | 20:01 | |
| kenvandine | bratsche: in src/Core/Banshee.ThickClient/Banshee.Gui/PlaybackActions.cs ? | 20:03 |
| kenvandine | oh... no | 20:04 |
| bratsche | src/Extensions/Banshee.NotificationArea/Banshee.NotificationArea/NotificationAreaService.cs | 20:04 |
| bratsche | Oh hold up | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | it is definately getting inside that if statement for me | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | so weird... it is clearly calling AddAction | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | but not printing from inside of AddAction | 20:13 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: I think it's a namespace collision somehow.. | 20:14 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: It's pulling it in from the system rather than using the one in the Banshee source tree. | 20:16 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: I have to go right now, but I'll fix this when I get back to my hotel. | 20:16 |
| kenvandine | bratsche: sure | 20:16 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: I think we basically just need to apply my patch to notify-sharp instead of (or in addition to) Banshee.. | 20:16 |
| kenvandine | i wonder why they have their own... and use notify-sharp | 20:17 |
| bratsche | kenvandine: Well, when I wrote the patch I was using my Intrepid desktop and it built using the in-tree version.. now I'm on Jaunty, and maybe it built using the system one for some reason. Not sure why. | 20:18 |
| bratsche | I'll look into it further later. | 20:18 |
| tretle | macslow | 22:45 |
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