[01:39] <xivulon> cjwatson, please remind me, on 252900 will that be fixed in apt?
[01:41] <xivulon> IIRC you mentioned that a fix was not possible
[09:04] <cjwatson> xivulon: I'm not going to close the bug against dpkg, but I wouldn't hold your breath for a fix there; I can almost guarantee that upstream is not interested
[13:17] <CIA-3> partman-target: cjwatson * r746 ubuntu/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[13:17] <CIA-3> partman-target: Escape spaces, tabs, newlines, and backslashes in fstab according to the
[13:17] <CIA-3> partman-target: procedure described in getmntent(3) (LP: #38224).
[14:24] <CIA-3> partman-base: cjwatson * r131 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog lib/commit.sh):
[14:24] <CIA-3> partman-base: Don't display the Back button when asking for confirmation, since it's
[14:24] <CIA-3> partman-base: already a boolean "do you want to continue?" question and we ignore
[14:24] <CIA-3> partman-base: backup anyway (LP: #9244).
[14:25] <shtylman> cjwatson: quick question requarding the build process (just for my info):  I see then everytime I rebuild, templates need to be sorted again...is there a way to cache that? has that ever been thought about?
[14:27] <cjwatson> no, sorry
[14:28] <cjwatson> I'd rather just make it faster than mess about with caching ...
[14:29] <shtylman> gotcha
[14:29] <shtylman> thats fine...I was just curious
[14:29] <shtylman> do you work on the debian installer as well? or just the ubuntu side?
[14:30] <cjwatson> both
[14:30] <cjwatson> I've been working on the Debian installer since before Ubuntu existed
[14:30] <shtylman> damn
[14:34] <shtylman> oh...so the gtk and kde frontends share the same pixmaps now...should I move that over to the ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork.install file?
[14:35] <shtylman> otherwise there are conflicts when installing both (if someone chooses to do so...for some reason)
[14:59] <cjwatson> yeah, if they're sharing files that sounds right; make sure to include an appropriate Replaces field when moving files between packages
[15:10] <cjwatson> evand: any progress on bug 292159?
[15:15] <evand> cjwatson: it's very much on my list for next week (just trying to get a mobile team request for a dd'able images option in usb-creator sorted today).  This past week was heavy last minute feature work so I didn't have a chance to sort it then.
[15:15] <cjwatson> I know the feeling; OK, thanks
[15:16] <evand> :)
[15:19] <superm1> evand, can you double check about bug 331642?  i think it's a duplicate of bug 328281, but veronica can only test DVDs in the factory image and they're all out of date
[15:25] <evand> superm1: sure, I'll check it out
[15:25] <superm1> thanks
[15:39] <shtylman> when I run the dch command, the email it keeps using is my <login name>@<hostname> ... can I change that somewhere to use my real email?
[15:41] <cjwatson> man dch
[15:41] <cjwatson> and search for mail
[15:42] <shtylman> eh...damn...I thought I had looked all over...thanks
[16:39] <cjwatson> superm1: hmm, I wonder what's wrong with DVD builds
[16:41] <cjwatson> oh, language pack conflicts
[16:41] <cjwatson> slangasek was working on those
[16:42] <cjwatson> ok, seems as though they've just been repeatedly unlucky
[16:50]  * evand was just about to build a new dvd livefs, after accidentally triggering a regular one
[18:37] <superm1> evand, even when one is successful i'm wondering if the ubiquity on it will be functional though.  i thought some of the partman stuff in the current version in the archive isn't functional (but you've fixed in bzr)
[18:40] <evand> Is there a specific changelog entry for what you're referring to?
[18:40] <superm1> yeah the one that touched os-prober
[18:40] <superm1> fixed sending part -> part[0] and device -> str(device)
[18:40] <superm1> sorry it's in ubiquity code.  ubiquity/misc.py and ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py
[18:41] <evand> That shouldn't break anything though, it just means that you'll see /dev/sda1 instead of "Windows XP Professional".  It didn't trigger an exception.
[18:41] <superm1> the lack of str(device) was raising a TypeError
[18:41] <evand> oh, good point
[18:41] <evand> hrm
[18:42] <evand> shtylman: Have you filed bugs for a feature freeze exception for your kde_ui work?
[18:43] <evand> superm1: Once we can get the nod on the changes for 1.11.13 from slangasek I'll give it an upload
[18:43] <shtylman> evand: some of the kde_ui work got in before the freeze, but I have not filed for any exception yet
[18:44] <shtylman> once I make some more changes I will commit them and then file for the exception...is that a good plan?
[18:45] <evand> Indeed, thanks
[18:45] <evand> We can always do more uploads, so no worries about getting everything in one go
[18:46] <shtylman> evand: was a decision made on skipping the language step?
[18:47] <evand> shtylman: I think we're going to leave it as is.
[18:49] <shtylman> k
[18:49] <evand> I'd like to get rid of it.  It doesn't make sense to me to choose the language twice, but it's equally a pain to have to reboot if you change your mind on what language you want.
[18:50] <evand> Perhaps a welcome screen that's always displayed (rather than just for the Alphas) with a language drop down is something to consider for the future, but I don't think we have time for such a discussion past feature freeze in jaunty :)
[18:52] <shtylman> gotcha
[19:02] <shtylman> cjwatson, evand: I realize that I stepped in kinda late for this release, but for the next one I deff still want to help out and be more involved with the installer. What would I need to do for that? just stick around the channels when discussions start?
[19:03] <evand> Just stick around :)
[19:03] <evand> You'll eventually get made part of ~ubuntu-installer, and then you'll have direct commit access.
[19:04] <evand> I would strongly suggest you apply for sponsorship to UDS, if you can make it.
[19:04] <evand> As that's when we discuss what's going into the next release in depth.
[19:06] <evand> shtylman:  http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/02/19/announcing-the-karmic-koala-ubuntu-developer-summit/
[19:10] <shtylman> evand: gotcha...and sponsorship gets you space in the summit? or the full deal? yea..I hope to stick around...I am learning alot about the packaging process and how all the development happens, its great
[19:11] <evand> If you're sponsored Canonical pays for your flight out, hotel room for the duration, and provides lunch as well as a per diem for dinner.
[19:11] <evand> Gotta run though, dinner time.
[19:12] <evand> If you want to learn lots about packaging, hang out in #ubuntu-motu
[19:12] <shtylman> thanks
[19:12] <evand> And work through their documentation to become a MOTU, it's a step on the path to becoming a full core developer.
[19:34] <cjwatson> folks can turn up to the summit without being sponsored of course
[19:34] <cjwatson> (assuming enough funds, like your average conference)
[19:35] <shtylman> I see