| fta | bug 331841 | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331841 in gwibber "Please bump the gwibber version in both branches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331841 | 00:14 |
| asac | james_w: help ... do you know this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/120546/ | 11:38 |
| asac | major breakage ;9 | 11:38 |
| asac | is that builddeb doing that to me? | 11:38 |
| asac | oh loom | 11:39 |
| james_w | yeah, upgrade loom | 11:39 |
| james_w | reading NEWS.Debian for the update of bzr-builddeb is probably a good idea for you | 11:39 |
| asac | james_w: i am up-to-date in jaunty | 11:39 |
| james_w | it's not in jaunty is it? | 11:39 |
| asac | james_w: not sure ... i had a package installed. thought it was from archive | 11:40 |
| asac | james_w: yes. i will look in NEWS. i had to downgrade builddeb | 11:40 |
| asac | on my other system | 11:40 |
| james_w | why? | 11:40 |
| asac | seems it doesnt understand --export-upstream* properly anymore | 11:40 |
| asac | in jaunty | 11:40 |
| asac | let me look in NEWS | 11:40 |
| james_w | yeah | 11:41 |
| james_w | it's gone away | 11:41 |
| james_w | because it was broken | 11:41 |
| asac | james_w: it worked well for me (finally) | 11:41 |
| asac | i used merge = TRue | 11:41 |
| asac | and export-upstream-revision= | 11:41 |
| asac | (but not export-upstream) | 11:41 |
| asac | so when i needed tarball i could specify --export-upstream=. | 11:42 |
| asac | keeping stuff with warning for one cycle would be nice ;) | 11:42 |
| asac | err | 11:42 |
| james_w | could you tell me a bit more about what you wanted to do with it, then I can make builddeb work better for you | 11:42 |
| asac | james_w: i just want to have info to produce upstream tarballs on the fly in my try | 11:43 |
| james_w | yeah, I would have liked to have done that, but using it would just lead to trouble | 11:43 |
| asac | tree | 11:43 |
| asac | just like i had with --export-upstream= | 11:43 |
| james_w | ok | 11:43 |
| asac | (i filed a bug about that ... which would have made that perfect for me) | 11:43 |
| asac | but now i migrated a bunch of branches there | 11:43 |
| asac | and the feature is gone | 11:43 |
| asac | i have 2.1~0ubuntu1 | 11:44 |
| asac | and bzr help builddeb still tells me about --export-upstream | 11:44 |
| james_w | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-builddeb/+bug/317111 | 11:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 317111 in bzr-builddeb "export-upstream should not export upstream tarball when a proper orig.tar.gz is available from other sources" [High,Fix committed] | 11:44 |
| james_w | that's yours | 11:44 |
| asac | yeah | 11:44 |
| james_w | I think I know how to fix your case | 11:44 |
| james_w | I kind of forgot about merge mode | 11:45 |
| asac | james_w: well. currently export-upstream seems to be broken | 11:45 |
| asac | or removed (according to you) | 11:45 |
| asac | ok the initial issue i had with bzr st is gone ... seems it was intermediate while upgrades were running | 11:46 |
| james_w | I think adding an "export-upstream" command is the way to fix this | 11:46 |
| asac | james_w: my branches are not always full sources | 11:46 |
| asac | james_w: i cannot use merge-upstream | 11:47 |
| james_w | then you can invoke that as you like, without having to first find the combination of configuration options that makes it work for you | 11:47 |
| asac | e.g. i used it for the new network manager branches | 11:47 |
| asac | which are just debian tree | 11:47 |
| asac | worked great | 11:47 |
| james_w | sure | 11:47 |
| james_w | I want to fix it | 11:47 |
| asac | so i could easily still the right revision into the tree | 11:47 |
| asac | ok | 11:47 |
| asac | so what should i do for now? | 11:47 |
| james_w | making this change made merge-upstream much much better, so I don't regret it | 11:47 |
| asac | hold back the upgrade? | 11:47 |
| james_w | give me a few hours? | 11:47 |
| asac | sur3e | 11:48 |
| james_w | sure | 11:48 |
| asac | ;) | 11:48 |
| james_w | I'll include the command in the next upload | 11:48 |
| asac | james_w: can you still honour the export-upstream-revision = config? | 11:48 |
| james_w | as you were essentially simulating such a command | 11:48 |
| asac | that would be great | 11:48 |
| asac | i adde that info now in a bunch of branches | 11:48 |
| james_w | my current thought is this | 11:48 |
| james_w | upstream-branch = foo | 11:48 |
| james_w | to allow it to be remembered | 11:49 |
| asac | ok | 11:49 |
| james_w | bzr export-upstream [BRANCH] | 11:49 |
| asac | and the revision? | 11:49 |
| james_w | which takes a -r option | 11:49 |
| james_w | and creates a tarball for you | 11:49 |
| asac | can you support legacy support for my config? | 11:49 |
| james_w | I didn't want to support legacy in that upload, as it would have led to odd behaviour | 11:50 |
| james_w | but I imagine I can in this upload | 11:50 |
| asac | james_w: its just the -revision info that i want | 11:50 |
| asac | i didnt add export-upstream = in most cases | 11:50 |
| james_w | why do you want it to be stored in the config file? | 11:50 |
| asac | james_w: because then the branch is mostly self maintained | 11:50 |
| asac | i want to commit the revision info right in the tree when i bump changelog | 11:50 |
| james_w | got it | 11:51 |
| james_w | seems like a valid use case | 11:51 |
| asac | great ;) | 11:51 |
| james_w | let me think about it for a bit | 11:51 |
| james_w | I want to see if we can make it work even better for you | 11:51 |
| james_w | would you want it to change the changelog at all? | 11:52 |
| james_w | not by default it seems | 11:52 |
| james_w | but perhaps an option to write the revision to the config file and bump the changelog would be nice | 11:53 |
| asac | james_w: would be ... but its not required. | 11:53 |
| james_w | sure | 11:53 |
| asac | james_w: maybe if i do bzr merge | 11:53 |
| asac | but for debian only trees | 11:53 |
| asac | i dig the revision info on my own anyway | 11:53 |
| james_w | I'll get it working for you first, then we can make it better | 11:53 |
| asac | (its usually not the tip) | 11:53 |
| james_w | bzr export-upstream --remember-revision -r 246 BRANCH | 11:54 |
| asac | james_w: i want to publish the revision info | 11:54 |
| asac | so i would probably need a bzr commit after that? | 11:54 |
| james_w | yeah | 11:55 |
| asac | for me the revision is tightly associated with the current tree | 11:55 |
| asac | so its not somethig i just want locally (like parent branch) | 11:55 |
| james_w | that would write the revision id to the config file, and also add a new changelog stanza | 11:55 |
| asac | hmm | 11:55 |
| james_w | not sure it's the right thing though | 11:55 |
| asac | james_w: we could do that. | 11:55 |
| asac | but i usually i just open new changelog upstream revision | 11:56 |
| asac | and document the revision change in the same commit | 11:56 |
| asac | like "* new upstream snapshot (revid:xxxx) | 11:56 |
| james_w | "open new changelog upstream revision" what does that mean? | 11:56 |
| asac | - update .bzr-builddeb/default.conf | 11:56 |
| asac | " | 11:56 |
| james_w | yeah | 11:56 |
| asac | james_w: yes, but everybody has his own format for that | 11:56 |
| asac | if we can standardize that it would be great | 11:57 |
| james_w | merge-upstream does things like this for you in full source mode, so having it for merge mode may help you | 11:57 |
| asac | sometimes i say: "new upstream snapshot" ... but on other times i say : "new upstream release xxx" | 11:57 |
| james_w | but I'll leave all that for later improvements, and fix it for you first | 11:57 |
| asac | yeah. | 11:57 |
| asac | just tell me when there is something to test for me ;) | 11:57 |
| james_w | sure | 11:58 |
| asac | i can then see how it feels | 11:58 |
| asac | and complain or cheer ;) | 11:58 |
| james_w | are you happy to test from bzr? | 11:58 |
| asac | why not | 11:58 |
| james_w | k, makes it easier for me :-) | 11:58 |
| asac | if i can just branch it in .bazaar/plugins | 11:58 |
| asac | its good | 11:58 |
| james_w | yeah | 11:58 |
| asac | do .bazaar/plugins checkouts win over global things? | 11:58 |
| asac | or does it check for higher version when having conflicting plugins? | 11:58 |
| asac | (just curious) | 11:58 |
| james_w | .bazaar/plugins wins | 11:58 |
| asac | good | 11:59 |
| asac | so even if its lower | 11:59 |
| asac | thats the same for mozilla | 11:59 |
| asac | thought a bit whether it would make sense to chnage that | 11:59 |
| asac | but probably profile should win | 11:59 |
| james_w | I'll need an FFe for this, so I'll report a bug later you can make some noise on | 11:59 |
| asac | james_w: heh. you could even make bzr bd try export-upstream | 12:00 |
| asac | when the other download options fail ;) | 12:00 |
| asac | just an idea | 12:00 |
| asac | james_w: its regression bug | 12:00 |
| asac | not sure if that needs a FFe | 12:00 |
| asac | ;) | 12:00 |
| james_w | :-) | 12:00 |
| asac | but well i can state that in the bug | 12:01 |
| asac | "all my magic branch wizardry broke" ;) | 12:01 |
| james_w | perhaps you are right about bd | 12:01 |
| james_w | having it beat the other options was definitely the wrong thing | 12:01 |
| asac | yeah. i think woudl be elegant. e.g. factor out export-upstream to its own clean operation and then make use of it | 12:01 |
| asac | if there is not arball | 12:02 |
| james_w | however, it can lead to problems anyway | 12:02 |
| james_w | that's the reason it's gone really | 12:02 |
| asac | sure. but in most casese you have the archives you will upload to in your sources | 12:02 |
| asac | if not you have to figure on your own | 12:02 |
| james_w | it was too easy to shoot yourself in the foot | 12:02 |
| james_w | I'll consider it though | 12:02 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 12:02 |
| asac | the solution was not to add export-upstream = . | 12:02 |
| asac | to default.conf | 12:02 |
| asac | and only run --export-upstream if you didnt find a tarball | 12:03 |
| asac | worked well ;) | 12:03 |
| james_w | but it also fails in that a -2 upload won't be accepted | 12:03 |
| james_w | if the .orig.tar.gz was from export-upstream the second time | 12:04 |
| james_w | it's harder to hit now that it doesn't overwrite | 12:04 |
| james_w | but it is still an issue | 12:04 |
| james_w | but anyway, everyone should use full source branches and merge-upstream anyway :-) | 12:04 |
| asac | hehe | 12:05 |
| asac | james_w: the main problem is what i had now | 12:05 |
| asac | james_w: upstream moves branches and then you can trash everything | 12:05 |
| asac | james_w: so i went back to debian only tree for NM | 12:06 |
| asac | just sounds more "long-term sustainable" | 12:06 |
| asac | unfortunately i must admit | 12:06 |
| james_w | "upstream moves branches" | 12:06 |
| james_w | what do you mean by that? | 12:06 |
| asac | yes. NM main branch went to git | 12:06 |
| asac | and the openvpn branches were moved to their own svn tree | 12:06 |
| james_w | ah, so all revision ids changed | 12:07 |
| asac | yes | 12:07 |
| asac | and the svn -> git migration was a lethal injection obviously | 12:07 |
| asac | with no proper bzr-git yet | 12:07 |
| asac | james_w: that reminds me of the git archive issue | 12:09 |
| asac | james_w: currently i cannot use git archive to produce tarballs | 12:10 |
| james_w | that one is fixed :-) | 12:10 |
| asac | because bzr bd sees a file on top | 12:10 |
| asac | ah good | 12:10 |
| asac | maybe i didnt see because i downgraded | 12:10 |
| james_w | yeah | 12:10 |
| asac | before trying to use that kind of tarball | 12:10 |
| asac | greawt then ;) | 12:10 |
| fta | asac, what java plugin is good on amd64? i'm fighting remotely with a dead server and the admin web site in that IBM box needs java. I can't access it from home so i need to setup java remotely on a trusted desktop | 12:22 |
| asac | fta: i dont think there is much choice | 12:24 |
| asac | use the latest ice tea thing ... | 12:24 |
| asac | there is no java plugin with javascript integration though (e.g. oij) | 12:25 |
| asac | so if the java stuff wants to communicate with website its not going to work on amd64 | 12:25 |
| fta | nm, i figured out how to avoid java | 12:25 |
| fta | the kernel is spitting insanities in loop | 12:26 |
| fta | basically, out of memory everywhere, and no way to reclaim anything | 12:27 |
| asac | fta: hmm so gwibber team build also failed? | 12:48 |
| fta | yes, jaunty | 12:48 |
| fta | they silently push python2.6 and python is still 2.5 | 12:48 |
| fta | +ed | 12:49 |
| fta | i just re-triggered the bot => gwibber_0.9.1~bzr246-0ubuntu1~daily2 | 12:50 |
| fta | lol, bug 31589 :) | 13:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 31589 in launchpad-foundations "Attempting to set redirection_url to a tuple instead of a string in login machinery" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31589 | 13:30 |
| fta | no | 13:30 |
| fta | lol, bug 331589 :) | 13:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331589 in alsa-utils "system beep in jaunty is the most annoying sound known to man" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331589 | 13:30 |
| james_w | asac, fta: do you ever make use of "bzr bd --use-existing"? | 13:49 |
| fta | nope | 13:50 |
| fta | what is that? | 13:50 |
| fta | last bzr regressed? http://paste.ubuntu.com/120589/ | 13:50 |
| james_w | you need to upgrade loom | 13:51 |
| james_w | the option makes it not extract the upstream tarball again | 13:51 |
| james_w | just wondering if I have to preserve that | 13:53 |
| fta | do you mean it's equiv to moving to build-area/foo and doing dpkg-buildpackage -nc ? | 13:54 |
| asac | james_w: --use-existing? is that like --quick? | 13:54 |
| asac | that didnt help for me as it somehoe rebuild everything even if i use debuild -nc | 13:54 |
| asac | if --quick would work that way it would be great | 13:55 |
| james_w | it deletes debian from the last build directory, then re-exports your branch in to it | 13:55 |
| james_w | then builds the result | 13:55 |
| fta | deletes debian = remove the stamps, so it forces a rebuild | 13:56 |
| james_w | oh, didn't think of that | 13:56 |
| james_w | I've never really used it myself | 13:56 |
| james_w | if you don't delete debian it won't work if you delete a file though | 13:57 |
| fta | indeed | 13:57 |
| james_w | but that is probably rarer | 13:57 |
| james_w | what I want to do is make the build-dir default to .. as well | 13:57 |
| fta | gasp | 13:58 |
| james_w | but that means using tempdirs to build in, rather than pkg-version directories | 13:58 |
| fta | that means polluting my branches repository | 13:58 |
| james_w | how so? | 13:58 |
| fta | with tons of files i really don't care about | 13:58 |
| fta | when i need disk space, i just rm -rf build-area | 13:59 |
| fta | if it's now in .. relative a packaging branch, i will no longer be able to do that | 13:59 |
| james_w | I said default | 13:59 |
| fta | i have ~200 branches | 14:00 |
| james_w | but I don't really see what you mean by "tons of files" | 14:00 |
| james_w | it would make it work the same way as not using bzr and just calling "debuild" | 14:00 |
| fta | well, i have my aliases already | 14:01 |
| fta | bdm = bd --merge --dont-purge --result-dir=../build-area | 14:01 |
| fta | bdn = bd --native --dont-purge --result-dir=../build-area | 14:01 |
| fta | ppa = "bd --merge --build-dir=../ppa --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -kB6EE20E8'" | 14:01 |
| fta | ppa2 = "bd --merge --build-dir=../ppa --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sd -kB6EE20E8'" | 14:01 |
| fta | ppan = "bd --native --build-dir=../ppa --builder='dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -kB6EE20E8'" | 14:01 |
| fta | so i don't mind | 14:02 |
| fta | my bot forces --result-dir too | 14:03 |
| james_w | why not set "merge" and "native" in the config file so that anyone can build them without figuring that out? | 14:04 |
| james_w | and the latest version will mean you don't have to use --builder anymore | 14:05 |
| fta | i don't expect others to build with bzr bd | 14:05 |
| james_w | "bd --merge --build-dir=../ppa -- -S -sa -kB6EE20E8" will work | 14:06 |
| fta | and i'm not very in sync with all the new bzr goodies :P | 14:06 |
| fta | asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=gwibber | 14:22 |
| asac | fta: thanks. you could have reused the version btw. | 14:25 |
| asac | fta: can you ask seb politely if he has some cycles to look at it now? | 14:26 |
| fta | i wanted but cjwatson asked me to bump it | 14:26 |
| asac | at least inform him that there is a new | 14:26 |
| asac | ok | 14:26 |
| asac | doesnt really matter. its easier for archive admin to spot which to take | 14:26 |
| asac | if you bump version | 14:26 |
| asac | ok ... preparing for a call | 14:26 |
| asac | bb in ~1h | 14:27 |
| cros13 | Hi, there is a patch up that fixes this bug: | 14:42 |
| cros13 | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=404314 | 14:42 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 404314 in XUL "when I click on a menu instead of click and hold it randomly selects a menu item and activates it" [Normal,Assigned] | 14:42 |
| fta | i'm sick of this crappy sound. | 15:30 |
| fta | dtchen, do you think my issues with p-a are caused by a crappy driver or crappy h/w ? | 15:30 |
| BUGabundo | fta: have you tried the workaround? | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo | to make it speech free or what ever its called? | 15:31 |
| fta | ? | 15:31 |
| fta | what is that? | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 15:31 |
| fta | glitch free? | 15:31 |
| BUGabundo | there's a mail from crisum and the muson on the lists about it | 15:32 |
| BUGabundo | yeah that's it | 15:32 |
| fta | "3 revisions were removed from the branch." (gwibber trunk). gasp, my bot will probably hate that | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | oh I saw that ryan bumped the gw vers | 15:33 |
| BUGabundo | so its should now be higher | 15:34 |
| BUGabundo | as you wished | 15:34 |
| fta | yep, my description was a bit confusingn, 0.9 vs 0.9.1, ryan used 0.9.1 while 0.9 would have made more sense, my bad | 15:35 |
| fta | -n | 15:35 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 15:35 |
| fta | i'm not caching the upstream branch for gwibber, good, my bot will cope with the removal | 15:36 |
| fta | /me looking for a better sound card... so many: http://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/75012/comparer/114/Cartes-son/?i1=698&f1=2759&i2=700&f2=2760&i3=701&f3=&i4=702&f4=&mq=0&pxmin=0&pxmax=0&od=nom&show=1&nbf=4 | 15:37 |
| fta | no "works well with ubuntu" list? | 15:43 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | did your current got fried yesterday? | 15:46 |
| fta | no | 15:47 |
| fta | but i keep having issues on this desktop since p-a entered ubuntu, while on my other desktop and my laptop, it's fine (well, sort of) | 15:48 |
| asac | keep your eyes open when NM ubuntu2 gets on your system | 15:48 |
| asac | it might break your carrier detect | 15:48 |
| asac | escalate to me if you suddenly cannot connect to wired anymore ;) | 15:49 |
| fta | i don't have the osd notifs, should I? | 15:54 |
| asac | fta: yes | 15:54 |
| asac | do you have notify-osd installed? | 15:54 |
| fta | nope | 15:54 |
| fta | but i'm up-to-date | 15:54 |
| asac | fta: install it ;) | 15:54 |
| asac | maybe you nuked something else | 15:54 |
| asac | like ubuntu-desktop | 15:55 |
| asac | ii am not sure how that is supposed to get pulled in | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo | ahhhhhhh asac? really | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 15:55 |
| fta | oh right, i no longer have ubuntu-desktop | 15:55 |
| BUGabundo | I'll have to look at it | 15:56 |
| BUGabundo | and inform users on +1 | 15:56 |
| BUGabundo | yah I lost ubu-deskt twice now! | 15:56 |
| asac | yeah. if you removed ubuntu-desktop there is no guaranteey you really track the ubuntu desktop experience | 15:56 |
| asac | similar if you uninstall firefox package you wont get auto migrated to firefox-3.1 | 15:56 |
| fta | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 15:57 |
| fta | gnome2-user-guide restricted-manager restricted-manager-core scrollkeeper | 15:57 |
| asac | fta: not srue. i think the restricted manager is now called jockey | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo | asac: but UM -d should make sure its there | 15:57 |
| asac | might be that its just a normal removal | 15:57 |
| asac | due to control hints | 15:57 |
| asac | BUGabundo: i am not sure about that. ask mvo. there might be reason to not pull that in again | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo | fta: what ever you do, DON'T force anything | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo | parcial installs suck | 15:57 |
| asac | i even think so. if you opted out of ubuntu-desktop there is no reason to force it on you gain | 15:57 |
| BUGabundo | UM should never ofer them | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo | asac: yeah I have to ask him | 15:58 |
| fta | BUGabundo: lol, i'm not a noob ;) | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo | already did, but did not get a reply | 15:58 |
| asac | partial upgrades are ok | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo | yestreday | 15:58 |
| asac | you just shouldnt confirm upgrade if there are a bunch of removals you dont understand ;) | 15:58 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/120629/ | 15:59 |
| fta | too much crap in there | 15:59 |
| BUGabundo | seems fine to me | 15:59 |
| BUGabundo | lololol | 15:59 |
| BUGabundo | how long have you been without U-deskt? | 15:59 |
| fta | apparently a long time ago | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | already got mvo on +1 | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | trying to get this strait | 16:01 |
| fta | fta@ix:~ $ zgrep ubuntu-desktop /var/log/dpkg.log* | 16:01 |
| fta | fta@ix:~ $ L /var/log/dpkg.log* | head -1 | 16:01 |
| fta | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 120156 2008-03-30 15:20 /var/log/dpkg.log.12.gz | 16:01 |
| fta | fta@ix:~ $ | 16:01 |
| asac | you should go to network-manager ;) | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | ehehehehehehehe | 16:01 |
| fta | so probably more than a year ago | 16:02 |
| asac | anyway ... justinstall notify-osd for now;) | 16:02 |
| asac | folks on +1 should use ubuntu-desktop though | 16:02 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 16:02 |
| BUGabundo | but a few of us lost it | 16:02 |
| BUGabundo | trying to clear that out with mvo | 16:02 |
| asac | thats a good time to learn ;) | 16:03 |
| fta | n-m for an always wired desktop /w fixed ip is useless | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | works for me (TM) | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | if it discover it's the same network | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | avahi magic ?! | 16:03 |
| fta | i don't need that | 16:03 |
| fta | i will just cherry pick what i need from the list | 16:04 |
| BUGabundo | yeah I do that too, when it fails | 16:04 |
| fta | app-install-data-partner ? hmm | 16:04 |
| BUGabundo | asac: fta mvo said UM should install ubu-deskt! | 16:05 |
| asac | then you lost it after upgrading to jaunty ;) | 16:06 |
| asac | fta probably used apt-get dist-upgrade ;) | 16:06 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 16:06 |
| BUGabundo | he shouldn't | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 16:07 |
| fta | no, maybe i removed it to prevent n-m from trashing my prefs at each reboot | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | "that's not the Recommend way on Ubuntu" | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | according to the Wiki | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 16:07 |
| fta | mobile-broadband-provider-info on my desktop, no thanks | 16:09 |
| fta | ok, 29 instead of 54 | 16:12 |
| fta | asac, it's not transparent at all and it's not using my prefs | 16:19 |
| fta | metacity | 16:19 |
| asac | fta: did you fix the gwibber team build? (me desparately wants the new thing due to annoyance) | 16:19 |
| asac | fta: yes metacity needs still some fixes. | 16:20 |
| asac | but it works at least (first it didnt show anything) | 16:20 |
| asac | fta: metacityy also supports a bit composite ... you can try to enable that | 16:20 |
| asac | but i guess its still lacking support | 16:20 |
| asac | fta: ask macslow about his plans | 16:21 |
| fta | i know, but i don't want composite for my other windows | 16:21 |
| fta | it's slower for no benefit | 16:21 |
| asac | yeah. ask him | 16:21 |
| asac | ;) | 16:21 |
| fta | i can't read the text, white on black but too small, and it disappears too fast | 16:22 |
| fta | the time my eyes move and focus on the notif, it's gone | 16:22 |
| asac | yeah. tell that him ;) | 16:22 |
| asac | and file bugs | 16:22 |
| asac | bugs bugs | 16:22 |
| fta | :) | 16:22 |
| asac | thats the important part. notify-osd | 16:22 |
| fta | i wish someone fixes bug 328932 soon | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/328932/+text) | 16:30 |
| asac | fta: it says its fixed since 13 hours | 16:36 |
| asac | This bug was fixed in the package libsdl1.2 - 1.2.13-4ubuntu3 | 16:37 |
| fta | really? | 16:37 |
| asac | Great work Luke! Thanks for fixing it. All games work again on my machine after I installed the update. | 16:37 |
| asac | yes | 16:37 |
| asac | * debian/control: | 16:37 |
| asac | - add libglu1-mesa-dev as a build dependency, so SDL gets built with | 16:37 |
| asac | OpenGL support (LP: #328932) | 16:37 |
| asac | - Fix typo in svn URL (LP: #330457) | 16:37 |
| fta | unpinning | 16:38 |
| fta | great | 16:39 |
| fta | i just have tomboy left unupgradable | 16:39 |
| asac | yeah | 16:41 |
| asac | tomboy disappeared from my panel | 16:41 |
| asac | i think i removed it ;) | 16:41 |
| asac | oh its back :) | 16:41 |
| asac | no its normal sticky notes ihave now | 16:41 |
| asac | let me kill those | 16:41 |
| asac | tomboy installs with removing libgmime2.2-cil | 16:42 |
| asac | and instead getting 2.2a-cli | 16:42 |
| fta | oh, better then, it was removing tons of vital stuff up to yesterday | 16:44 |
| asac | yeah. probably the build systems are catching up finally from the FF rush | 16:49 |
| fta | i have plenty of new sounds for events now | 16:57 |
| fta | I can't disable some of them with the ui | 16:59 |
| fta | asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/~gwibber-team/+archive/ppa | 17:06 |
| asac | fta: hehe. yeah i get the drum roll every now and then in ffox 3.2 | 17:06 |
| asac | its a bit irritating | 17:07 |
| asac | \o/ NM finally found a build slot on amd64 | 17:39 |
| asac | maybe i can still test before leaving for the night | 17:39 |
| BUGabundo_ | asac: ping | 18:24 |
| BUGabundo_ | asac: ping | 18:38 |
| BUGabundo_ | lets see if 3G hands for a while | 18:38 |
| * BUGabundo_ typing from an eeepc with no light on the keyboard is not easy | 18:39 | |
| fta | back | 18:42 |
| BUGabundo_ | need tips on how to share 3G/UMTS net, via wired | 18:47 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| fta | "Karmic Koala", yeahhh, i guessed koala | 19:54 |
| === fabrice_sp__ is now known as fabrice_sp | ||
| === jetsaredim1 is now known as jetsaredim | ||
| gnomefreak | asac: did you say that network-manager 0.7.1~rc1-0ubuntu2 is broken for wired connection? | 22:15 |
| [reed] | fta: hehe | 22:24 |
| [reed] | fta: Koalas are so cute ;) | 22:24 |
| gnomefreak | i just read that too | 22:25 |
| gnomefreak | why do i get a badf feeling about sunbird | 22:27 |
| gnomefreak | [reed]: are they talking about just dropping lighnting to its own code base or are they talking about stepping back from both | 22:29 |
| gnomefreak | i had already known lightning wasnt gonna be part of tb3 if it was it would have been done in alpha# but this whole no team for sunbird bothers me | 22:33 |
| [reed] | well | 22:33 |
| [reed] | I think Sun's pulled out | 22:34 |
| [reed] | of a lot of what it was doing | 22:34 |
| [reed] | which is what is causing this :/ | 22:34 |
| gnomefreak | damn | 22:34 |
| [reed] | Sun has been killing stuff left and right | 22:34 |
| [reed] | same for others like IBM | 22:34 |
| [reed] | just companies in general | 22:34 |
| gnomefreak | that would be the start of a big rolling downfall assuming it didnt have 50+ companies | 22:35 |
| [reed] | MoMo is really wanting Lightning for Thunderbird, but they decided the add-on path works better | 22:36 |
| [reed] | which I can agree with | 22:36 |
| gnomefreak | [reed]: it would have been nice for the people that like the intergration, for me i hate lightning and stick with sunbird | 22:36 |
| [reed] | developers welcome | 22:37 |
| gnomefreak | first i hear daniel martin berend ect... left but daniel says he is still very much a prat of team and he suspects the others are as well | 22:39 |
| gnomefreak | s/prat/part | 22:39 |
| gnomefreak | 15+ extensions and he wonders why it crashes :( | 22:43 |
| gnomefreak | sorry 24 to be exact | 22:44 |
| VicTheHunter | Hello, please help? When I watch videos with Cheese, or totem-plugin-viewer 2.22.1, the images come out looking interleaved, and the bottom half is columns of solid colors. How can I fix this? | 23:02 |
| VicTheHunter | Sometimes, the images are ghosted, or doubled side-by-side. I notice this also in Firefox. | 23:02 |
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