[00:00]  * genii sips
[00:01] <nalioth> ikonia: that's not even funny
[00:01] <nikrud> ha. I thought so
[00:07] <Flannel> nikrud: Yes, we'd like storage.  I... hope to have a manifest tonight, but if you need it now, I could probably throw something together.  Phone calls, etc.
[00:15] <nikrud> Flannel, tomorrow morning would be fine; gives me the afternoon to futz with the security guys. And they'll only be concerned with actual computers and monitors, that high value stuff
[00:18] <_MMA_> Hey. Can I get someone banned who was just a complete ass in #ubuntu-artwork?
[00:20] <nikrud> _MMA_, from the looks of things, you're an op there ;)
[00:20] <_MMA_> Uh... Oh yeah. :P I totally forget how to do it. :)
[00:21] <Flannel>  /mode +b *!*@pool-173-66-53-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net
[00:22] <Flannel> _MMA_: ^^
[00:22] <_MMA_> Killer. Thanx
[00:22] <nikrud> _MMA_, what irc client do you use? there's a couple useful scripts for ops; I use xchat and chanserv.py
[00:24] <_MMA_> nikrud: Just usin' Pidgin. My needs are pretty basic. But I found the file where I got the commands I need.
[00:25] <_MMA_> Thanx guys.
[00:25] <nalioth> pidgin? a channel op?  0_0
[00:27] <Flannel> nalioth: Sometimes you just have to smile and nod
[00:27] <nikrud> and admire modest people
[00:27]  * Flannel wouldn't wish pidgin IRC on his enemies.
[00:28] <nikrud> I used it for about 2 minutes once I think
[03:47] <Daft_Punk> I need to speak to an op please
[03:48] <Daft_Punk> preferably tritium since he was sort of involved last time
[04:03] <Pici> Why?
[04:04] <Pici> Daft_Punk: Why do you need to speak to an op?
[04:04] <Daft_Punk> to report something
[04:04] <Pici> Daft_Punk: Well, you're talking to one now.
[04:04] <Daft_Punk> can i please PM you
[04:04] <Pici> Yes.
[04:10] <Pici> Okay then.
[04:18] <jdong> he went to work it harder make it better...
[04:19] <jdong> ok I should be hit for that.
[04:19] <Pici> Yes, you should. Too bad I'm too tired.
[05:33] <tritium> Pici: any idea what Daft_Punk wanted?
[05:35] <tritium> hello, nickrud 
[05:36] <nickrud> tritium, hey. What did you do to daft_punk? :)
[05:37] <tritium> nickrud: nothing.  That guy spree from a few nights ago was PMing him.  I suspect he was getting more PMs from him, and wanted to report them.
[05:37] <nickrud> ah, you did right by him earlier then
[05:37] <tritium> I suppose so.
[05:37] <nickrud> somehow I've avoided all the bad crap, the abusive pms and all
[05:38]  * nickrud knocks on his head for luck
[05:40] <tritium> nickrud: wow
[05:41] <nickrud> the only wood nearby
[05:41] <nickrud> @btlogin
[05:45] <tritium> Hi, Flannel.
[05:45] <Flannel> Howdy tritium 
[05:53] <tritium> nickrud: that Rick Santelli video today was awesome
[05:53]  * nickrud is not a fish today :)
[05:53] <tritium> Fish?
[05:53] <nickrud> I'm not going for the hook :)
[05:54] <tritium> Oh, heh.  I assumed you'd seen it.
[05:55] <nickrud> I have. Of course, I bet he wouldn't contribute to a dam on a stream feeding the river that might flood his home either.  
[05:56] <tritium> nickrud: you're a comedian :)
[05:56] <nickrud> even though it is at flood stage already
[05:59] <tritium> Ooh!  openwrt 8.09 is released!
[06:02] <Flannel> openwrt... how is that related to Tomato et al?
[06:05] <tritium> Flannel: not sure of the relation.
[06:06] <Flannel> Ah, that was HyperWRT
[06:07]  * Myrtti yawns
[06:09] <tritium> I just may put openwrt on my wrt54g
[06:19] <nickrud> Flannel, keep an eye on sebsebseb, he provides pretty decent help over all
[06:20] <tritium> nickrud: is there a "but"?
[06:20] <nickrud> he's like me, longwinded and likely to drift off topic
[06:24] <tritium> Bed time.  Good night.
[06:25] <nickrud> likewise, see you later tritium .
[06:25] <nickrud> Flannel, pm?
[06:25] <tritium> See you, nickrud.
[07:05] <elky> topyli, in future use the 'u is you in dutch. the channel is english-only. please dont speak dutch there. also, it means 'wow!' in albanian, 'inside' in croatian and serbian, 'beside' in czech, 'and' in maltese, 'from' in polish, 'under' in slovak, 'or' in spanish, and 'uneducated' in irc-ese.
[07:06] <topyli> heh
[07:07] <topyli> elky: that would be a good factoid replacement in fact
[07:07] <Flannel> !u
[07:08] <Flannel> Only a little longer.  Although it does remove the y bcuz ne1 etc stuff.
[07:08] <topyli> hmm and probably not comprehensive. the original mentions flemish
[07:09] <topyli> u is also a russian proposition meaning "on something" or a possessive "i have money on me" form
[07:09] <elky> flemish isnt on google translate
[07:09] <bazhang> u means fish in Mandarin
[07:10] <elky> i think this is time for me to set up another 'why' page
[07:10] <elky> !worksforme
[07:12] <elky> now that i remember where i keep my PSAs
[07:52] <elky> bazhang, can you confirm topyli's russian translation of 'u'?
[07:54] <topyli> i have an umbrella. u menya zontik
[07:54] <topyli> it's not a "word" as such
[07:56] <elky> that's a bit long-winded to add to that list then
[07:56] <bazhang> preposition I would imagine in that case, 'unattended', or 'horseshoe' would be ones I thought of
[07:57] <elky> lets leave it out for now then
[07:57] <bazhang> I would trust topyli 's russian any day though :)
[07:58] <elky> would or wouldn't?
[07:59] <bazhang> would elky 
[07:59] <topyli> i stll remember much of the grammar from school, but have forgotten almost all the vocabulary
[07:59] <elky> you did russian at school? cool
[07:59] <bazhang> k - uz, b- ot ,etc
[08:00] <elky> eh?
[08:01] <bazhang> prepositions that were learned early on
[08:01] <bazhang> sorry to clog the channel
[08:02] <topyli> elky: at the time, parents were being lobbied to expose their kids to russian. everybody learning german as their third language was a problem, because it happened in the expense of russian and french
[08:02] <topyli> after all, russia is a neighbor, big trade partner etc etc
[08:03] <topyli> as it happened, i never needed it in real life and slowly forgot all about it
[08:03]  * jussi01 wishes he knew russian, would be a big help at work...
[08:03] <jussi01> finnish would help also :P
[08:03] <topyli> heh
[08:11] <VNEWHBGUYE> is my Ubuntu offtopic ban over yet?
[08:11] <VNEWHBGUYE> you ops cant ban me from there for the rest of my life
[08:11] <bazhang> what nickname VNEWHBGUYE 
[08:12] <Myrtti> @bansearch VNEWHBGUYE 
[08:13] <VNEWHBGUYE> IDK, i used a different nick there every-time
[08:13] <VNEWHBGUYE> so how many more days
[08:13] <bazhang> nickchangertroll?
[08:13] <VNEWHBGUYE> yes, i believe that was the last name i used at ubuntu offtopic
[08:14] <bazhang> VNEWHBGUYE, you troll everytime you are let in there
[08:14] <ikonia> no
[08:14] <VNEWHBGUYE> uh
[08:14] <VNEWHBGUYE> bye
[08:14] <ikonia> bye
[08:14] <Flannel> That was productive.
[08:14] <bazhang> thought it was nbeebo for a sec
[08:14] <bazhang> the lack of 'u' gave it away
[08:15] <elky> failtroll?
[08:15] <topyli> i wonder why join a channel in the first place if you're not going to be a "person"
[08:15] <bazhang> yep
[08:15] <ikonia> bazhang: nbeebo is another one who it's pointless discussing with
[08:15] <bazhang> ikonia, agreed
[08:15] <bazhang> the failtroll guy says he wants to be paid to troll
[08:16] <ikonia> again - that attitude - ban, it seems pointless to keep covering old ground with these guys
[08:16] <ikonia> he states "I use this nick name to troll channels"
[08:16] <topyli> nbeebo is annoying because he almost never really "breaks" a "rule" you can put a finger on
[08:16] <ikonia> that's his intent - seems pointless to dicuss is
[08:16] <ikonia> topyli: U shud get on top of it
[08:17] <ikonia> :D
[08:17] <bazhang> seems to blame others a lot though
[08:17] <topyli> heh
[08:17] <ikonia> u need 2 understand dat saying u is why he was banned not b-cos he is unable 2 follo instruction
[08:18] <bazhang> haha
[08:18] <topyli> yeah. y is sayin u so bad. clearly he's being mistreated
[08:18]  * ikonia backs away 
[08:19] <topyli> oh. a fellow musician from back when we were fellow musicians has died at 32
[08:20] <topyli> that's not a very ripe age :(
[08:20] <bazhang> oh I'm sorry
[08:22] <topyli> thanks
[08:22] <elky> google translate is stupid. it tried to claim that 'r' is german for 'ratisbon' which is a city... and 'y' is vietnamese for 'italy'
[08:23] <topyli> of course, i'm now learning from the news, and they don't disclose very much about it. will have to ask friends what stupid adventure he's been on this time :\
[08:23] <ikonia> topyli: sad to hear that
[08:25] <topyli> there's a certain subset of artists who don't seem to manage very old lifespans too well
[08:25]  * elky huggles topyli
[08:29] <topyli> looks like wikipedia is up to date. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentenced
[08:29] <Myrtti> lolwhut?
[08:29] <Myrtti> topyli: !
[08:29] <topyli> quite fast for an encyclopedia
[08:30] <topyli> Myrtti: teh tenkuloid
[08:31] <elky> hrm... google translate says 'ur' means 'watch' in danish. is this true, or another googleism?
[08:31] <topyli> also swedish
[08:31] <Myrtti> you knew celebs, topyli...
[08:31] <Myrtti> know them too
[08:31] <Myrtti> almost celeb yourself
[08:31] <topyli> i have a famous name!
[08:33] <topyli> Myrtti: the music business is like that. some of your friends might actually make it :)
[08:34] <elky> topyli, is that watch as in look or watch as in tic-toc
[08:35] <topyli> tic-tock the chronograph
[08:35] <topyli> chronometer. what is it. must be something like that
[08:37] <topyli> actually, 'ur' is either old-fashioned or perhaps a special kind of clock. mostly you hear them say 'klocka'
[08:42] <elky> it's also 'from' in swedish
[08:47] <topyli> yes
[08:53] <Myrtti> webmail, 3G and bitlbee ♥ 
[08:56] <Myrtti> my god I need more sleep
[08:59] <elky> topyli, http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/
[09:05] <topyli> elky: ohh that might become a great reference
[09:06] <elky> topyli, i have a few others. s/abbreviations/worksforme/ and s/abbreviations/whygirlgroups/
[09:14] <topyli> also useful
[09:58] <bazhang> debian ultramix? that sounds bad
[09:59] <ikonia> sounds crap
[09:59] <ikonia> straight off the bat
[09:59] <ikonia> "ultra" = "wothless" normally
[09:59] <bazhang> hehe
[10:00] <bazhang> I bet the folks in #debian dont like it
[10:09] <bazhang> afraid to leave pop79 in charge of this wifi issue
[10:10] <bazhang> pretty soon he'll say: /j #pop79-wifi
[10:12] <ikonia> bazhang:I'm watching him
[10:13] <bazhang> ikonia, I guessed as much :)
[10:18] <bazhang> xorg.conf has a big man page, not read xorg but guessing its not small either
[10:19] <ikonia> bazhang: someone getting solid help tells someone the equivilent of RTFM and is "smug" about it
[10:19] <bazhang> ikonia, I saw that, especially after you had helped leissi so much
[10:19] <ikonia> hence why I've tooled down now
[10:37] <jester-> hi
[10:38] <ikonia> hello he
[10:38] <ikonia> jester
[10:38] <jester-> ikonia: i did want to say that our floodbot in irc italina channel are back
[10:38] <ikonia> ooh, thats great
[10:40] <jester-> who has made it i dont know, but thanks very much
[10:40] <ikonia> must have been nalioth or ljl
[10:41] <ikonia> I'm sure they will read this and appriciate your thanks
[10:42] <jester-> well, have a good day
[10:42] <ikonia> thanks, you too
[11:05] <Mez> can we get a bot in #ubuntu-uk-bugjam?
[11:05] <ikonia> bugjam ?
[11:05] <ikonia> what the devil is that
[11:06] <Mez> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam
[11:06]  * popey pulls ikonia out from under a rock
[11:08] <ikonia> I'm so out of touch
[11:08] <ikonia> I'm not cool enough
[11:42] <ikonia> !in
[11:42] <ikonia> what's the indonesia factoid
[11:42] <ikonia> !id
[11:48] <jussi01> nalioth: jpds: see Mez's request
[12:39] <bazhang>  [OLALALAYAYYO_] (n=OLALALAY@59.183.25.175): OLALALAYAYYO still trolling
[12:39] <ikonia> where ?
[12:39] <bazhang> in ubuntuforums channel
[12:42] <ikonia> Hmmm
[12:42] <ikonia> I think he's fail troll
[12:42] <ikonia> same style of questioning in ##mac too
[12:42] <bazhang> same vnewbyguy as earlier
[12:42] <ikonia> same questions as normal
[12:43] <bazhang> yep its nickchangertroll failtroll etc
[12:43] <bazhang> VNEWHBGUYE (n=DRGTSERY@59.183.25.175
[12:43] <ikonia> getting fed up of him now
[12:43] <bazhang> he wondered why he wasn't unbanned in -ot
[12:44] <ikonia> he knows the reason
[13:09] <Pici> tritium: Nothing of value.  He was telling me that 'spree' had messaged him something about being told on. I just told him to ignore the guy.
[13:10] <mneptok> "told on?"
[13:10] <mneptok> those exact words?
[13:12] <Pici> mneptok: Close. 
[13:13] <mneptok> anyone that makes me feel mature should be removed from Ubuntu IRC namespace for the good of the project.
[13:13] <ikonia> yes dada
[13:13] <ikonia> da
[13:13] <ikonia> da
[13:14] <ikonia> oh dslkfjs;dlfksjdf
[13:14] <ikonia> "Dad"
[13:14] <Pici> mneptok: He was relaying what the other person had said, and that other persosn is still banned.
[13:14] <mneptok> ikonia: you're told on when sabdfl gets home.
[13:14]  * mneptok locks himself in his room
[13:18] <ikonia> turn the music down
[13:18]  * mneptok turns it up
[13:18] <mneptok> YOU'RE TOLD ON! LEAVE ME ALONE!
[13:19] <mneptok> (omg, this is *exactly* how 90% of the "why am i banned?" conversations look to me)
[13:21] <ikonia> ha ha
[13:28] <mneptok> err ... there's a GUI
[14:41]  * genii brews a fresh batch of coffee
[15:54] <Pici> !xampp
[16:09] <Pici> augh
[16:33] <Saggese> hi staff
[16:33] <Saggese> :P
[16:36] <jussi01> hrm...
[16:36] <jussi01> @bansearch Saggese
[16:37] <jussi01> meh, people are weird
[16:38] <genii> Yup
[16:46] <jussi01> tsimpson: ping. 
[17:10] <jussi01> ikonia: ping
[18:05] <Pici> !9.10
[18:06] <Tm_T> indeedio
[18:06] <Pici> Azag: How can we help you today?
[18:07] <Azag> I am banned becouse a firend do same troll with my account in ubuntu-es :S
[18:08] <Pici> Azag: We do not handle bans from loco channels in here.  #ubuntu-irc is the proper place for those sort of requests.
[18:11] <Pici> Updated !UDS as well.
[18:21] <mneptok> hrmf.
[18:21] <mneptok> do i correct "Karmic" or not? ;)
[18:21] <jussi01> mneptok: what now?
[18:21] <mneptok> the correct Pali is "Kammic" :)
[18:22] <jussi01> mneptok: meh!
[18:22] <jussi01> :P
[18:44] <Pici> argh
[18:45] <Pici> The banlist is full...again
[18:52] <Pici> removed some old mutes...
[18:54] <nickrud> @btlogin
[18:54] <jussi01> Pici: slap some heads together then :P
[18:56] <nickrud> how many bans can we have total?
[18:56] <Pici> Floodbots only outright ban if a) the user ctcps the channel or b) a mibbit user is kicked, right?
[18:58] <Pici> nickrud: I want to say 500. 
[18:58] <Flannel> Yeah.
[18:58] <Flannel> It'd be nice if they'd also comment on the kick/mibbit stuff
[18:58] <Pici> Its a combination of bans, realname bans, invites and exceptions.
[18:58] <Flannel> since, most of those can be removed almost immediately.
[18:59] <jussi01> Pici: is this mostly floodbots fault? or are ops being lazy?
[19:00] <nickrud> that's not many for a busy channel. I've only 3 active, all recent. Commented, too ;)
[19:01] <Pici> jussi01: 58 out of 395 bans are even from the floodbots
[19:02] <jussi01> Pici: ok, so ops need to clean a little, wonder how many of the bans are domains we dont trust, like silenceisdefeat
[19:08] <Pici> jussi01: What do you think about removing the bans (not forwards) from the Floodbots? I'd think most of them were klines.
[19:09] <jussi01> Pici: fine with me, though maybe we should leave thwe recent ones. wasnt Ikonia looking into it?
[19:12] <ikonia> what do you want me to remove ?
[19:13] <ikonia> I don't think I've got many bans in BT 
[19:18] <jussi01> ikonia: no, were you not looking at the list of bans from the floodbots?
[19:18] <jussi01> and ikonia, pm?
[19:18] <ikonia> yes, I was
[19:18] <ikonia> jussi01: sure
[19:18] <ikonia> jussi01: and a generic ban list
[19:18] <jussi01> ahh. can we please make it happen?
[19:18] <Pici> Most of the bans from the floodbots got klines
[19:19] <ikonia> I'll finish going through the list tonight and remove everything thats %100 - the non-floodbot list is done and ready for removal, the floodbot list is almost done
[19:20] <ikonia> myrtti cleared some of the floodbots for me
[19:20] <mneptok> i cleaned out anything of mine >6 monts old ~2 weeks ago
[19:30] <Pici> ikonia, jussi01: I'm going to unban the floodbot's bans. Not the banforwards.
[19:30] <jussi01> Pici: right. Im sure we can sort it if they come back.
[19:30] <Pici> jussi01: I'll have a log of them anyway.
[19:34] <Pici> I put together a quick shell script to accept a file of hostmasks and split it out into the commands needed to unban them.
[19:34] <myrtti> I did?
[19:50] <Pici> For some reason 'myrtti' makes me think its Myrtti with her hair down. /me shrugs
[19:50] <myrtti> lol
[19:50] <Pici> egads
[19:55] <mneptok> now she has an erection.
[19:55] <mneptok> thanks for that mental imagery
[19:56] <Pici> I.. er...  I
[19:56]  * Pici palms
[19:57] <Myrtti> mneptok: ...
[19:57] <Myrtti> you're the one with the lowercase m.
[19:57] <Myrtti> TOUCHÉ!
[19:58] <Pici> Myrtti: touche... I was typing that!
[19:58] <Pici> oh well//me goes back to being in an odd mood
[19:58] <Myrtti> DOUBLE WHAMMER!
[19:58] <Myrtti> <instant rimshot />
[19:58]  * nickrud wonders if dansguardian will catch the previous
[19:59] <Myrtti> nickrud: only if it's lined with latex!
[20:13] <mneptok> Myrtti: my hair is down. no ... not that hair .....
[20:15]  * nickrud gets out the lysol
[20:15] <mneptok> Vodka and Percoset. cleans like a white tornado!
[20:16] <nickrud> ah, the memories :)
[20:16] <mneptok> or lack thereof.
[20:17]  * genii sips
[20:17] <nickrud> I was a professional. Only amatures implode
[20:17]  * nickrud looks at his latte, which is disappointly cold
[20:18]  * genii freshens up the latte
[20:24] <tritium> Pici: thanks.
[20:30] <tritium> Hi nickrud, genii, Myrtti.
[20:31] <tritium> Hello, mneptok, future neighbor.
[20:31] <nickrud> morning tritium. pm? Got a link for you ;)
[20:32] <tritium> nickrud: sure
[20:32] <tritium> nickrud: am I a fish today?
[20:32] <nickrud> only if you bite :)
[20:37] <Myrtti> blubblub
[20:38] <Seeker`> wibble
[20:51] <mneptok> tritium: ahoy thar
[21:06]  * Pici wonders if hes muted at times in #ubuntu
[21:10] <mneptok> nalioth: how long do group apps usually take to process?
[21:13] <Seeker`> mneptok: "quite a while" I believe
[21:17] <nalioth> mneptok: couple days short of infinity
[21:18] <nalioth> mneptok: couple days longer than the sun takes to burn off it's fuel
[21:18]  * nalioth runs
[21:26] <mneptok> nalioth: *sigh*
[21:29] <Myrtti>  ;2D9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~9;2~
[21:31] <Myrtti> damn cat
[21:32] <Nafallo> blame the cat... :-P
[21:36] <Myrtti> http://flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3296132668/
[21:36] <Myrtti> he figured the cursor is a nice toy
[21:42] <Nafallo> ha!
[21:44] <Ursinha> Myrtti, very cool pic :)
[22:16] <Seeker`> does mailman-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com ever actually send anything useful?
[22:19] <jdong> the -bounces usually always sends the "if you haven't noticed yet, you're subscribed to list $x"
[22:19] <Seeker`> hmm
[22:19] <jdong> killfile material :)
[22:20] <Seeker`> it also appears to send me a lot spam too :P
[22:51]  * genii sips
[22:54]  * Seeker` spis
[23:32] <nalioth> we may have to institute a rather wide ban for this little bas****d
[23:33] <Seeker`> nalioth: ?
[23:34] <nalioth> the last exploiter
[23:34] <nalioth> he's running rampant across the network
[23:34] <Seeker`> ah
[23:35] <Seeker`> is a k-line not appropriate?
[23:35] <nalioth> not when he immediately recycles his modem and gets a new IP
[23:35] <Seeker`> eww
[23:36] <Seeker`> someone needs to put a large nail through his modem
[23:36] <Seeker`> it'll either pin it where it is so it cant change IP
[23:36] <Seeker`> or kill the modem
[23:36] <Seeker`> either is good
[23:36] <nalioth> as i said, an unusually large ban may be in order
[23:36] <Seeker`> what sort of scale are you talking about?
[23:36] <nalioth> Seeker`: we'll see when we get there
[23:37] <Seeker`> Shininggg: how can we hlep you?
[23:37] <Shininggg> well i've change port and the message about DCCexploit keep poping up
[23:38] <Seeker`> have you reconnected to the network?
[23:38] <Shininggg> nope
[23:38] <Seeker`> you need to reconnect to the network for the port change to take effect
[23:38] <Shininggg> cool thx a lot
[23:39] <Myrtti> http://twitter.com/ShutteR77/statuses/1197313492 *lol*
[23:40] <Seeker`> i dont get it
[23:40] <Myrtti> someone has bothered to tweet about what I've said on IRC
[23:40] <Seeker`> meh, twitter sucks
[23:41] <Seeker`> "OMG! MUST TELL EVERYONE I GOT ON THE TRAIN"
[23:41] <Seeker`> "OMG! MUST TELL EVERYONE I GOT A SEAT"
[23:41] <Seeker`> "OMG! MUST TELL EVERYONE WE ARE GOING THROUGH A STATION"
[23:41] <Seeker`> etc.
[23:45] <Seeker`> at least with the system in place each exploit hits fewer and fewer users
[23:49] <guntbert> Hi
[23:50] <Seeker`> how can we help you?
[23:50] <guntbert> is it just me, or are the floodbots in #ubuntu acting a bit strange today? ([00:44] * FloodBot1 sets ban on galvanize!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic)
[23:51] <Seeker`> guntbert: someone did an exploit; That redirects people to somewhere with instructions on how to fix it
[23:52] <guntbert> Seeker`: ah I see, it was just because at least the one I mentioned was acting completely normally
[23:52] <Seeker`> the people redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic haven't done anything wrong, they just need to fix their connection to stop themselves being exploited again
[23:53] <guntbert> Seeker`: ok, now I understand - am a bit slow already :), thx