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Xikkubits probably bad if your mouse and keyboard freeze also00:00
FoxkehWe usually can't get our fingers out quick enough so it usually reboot.(It takes about two minutes to finally shut down.)00:00
Xikkubah00:00
FoxkehMight it have something to do with the wireless part?00:00
FoxkehSo, is an "Ms DOS console" a terminal?00:00
Xikkubi wouldnt expect the wireless to interfere with your mouse/ keyboard i/o00:00
zoredacheFoxkeh: not exactly, but it is pretty close00:00
FoxkehSo, what is it?00:01
Xikkubwell terminal is the msdos prompt equivalent in linux00:01
FoxkehI knew that, I only refer to a command prompt as a terminal.00:01
FoxkehSo it's a command prompt?00:01
Xikkubyeah00:02
FoxkehSo how do I figure out if I'm using an NTFS file system?00:02
FoxkehOk.00:02
charlie-tcaso the alt+sysRq doesn't work for you at all?00:03
FoxkehNope. Never. I think Alienkid once said he got it to work, but only once and I wasn't awake, I think.00:03
charlie-tcaWhat version of windows do you have?00:03
FoxkehXP.00:03
Foxkehhome.00:03
charlie-tcaThat is NTFS00:03
FoxkehDarn.00:03
zoredacheFoxkeh: I asked you a about 10 minutes ago to run the command 'mount' and post the output00:03
FoxkehYou did?00:04
FoxkehDidn't see it.00:04
Xikkubwhy should ntfs make a difference. ubuntu is ntfs-friendly00:04
zoredachemount will tell you exactly what, is what filesystem... you could also look at your /etc/fstab00:04
FoxkehXikkub, 'cause if it wasn't I could fsck in Linux.00:05
FoxkehSo just open a terminal and type mount?00:06
Xikkubyou could use ntfs-progs00:06
Xikkubya00:06
zoredacheor mount | pastebinit00:06
zoredachethen provide us with the url00:06
FoxkehHow do I do "Mount | pastbinit"? I did the command "Mount pastebinit" not knowing if I should include "|" in it.00:08
Xikkubi feel like im on excstacy for some reason00:08
zoredacheyes, you need the | character.  The | character is a way of telling mount to send all of its output to the command after the |00:08
durtXikkub: your coming down with a cold.00:08
Xikkubomg why?00:09
zoredachein this case I want it to go to pastebinit, because that will allow you easily share the results with everyone00:09
durtzoredache: is pastebinit installed by default? that is a seriously kick a$$ app. (If I it does what I think it does.)00:10
zoredacheif you get an error, about pastbinit not being found then run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'00:10
zoredachedurt: I forget it if is installed.  it is easy to install see my previous message00:11
durt:) micro-seconds apart00:11
kyoobehhello00:12
zoredache!hi | kyoobeh00:12
ubottukyoobeh: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!00:12
kyoobehpretty excited about getting xubuntu on this old laptop00:13
durtlol, someone needs to add a little more to that factoid00:13
knomedurt, why?00:13
durtthat's the shortest bot response evar00:14
kyoobehheh00:14
Xikkubfinally i got emacs wrkin00:14
Xikkubi luv emacs00:14
kyoobehxubuntu just got done installing on this old laptop, but whenever i go to try to load it, the loading bar and Xubuntu screen shows up, but soons it loads the screen just goes blank00:15
durtvi for evar!!00:15
Xikkublol vi omg00:15
Xikkubi cant stand it00:15
durt!offtopic | durt00:15
ubottudurt, please see my private message00:15
zoredachekyoobeh: have you tried booting into safe mode?00:16
kyoobehi have, and everything says [ OK ]00:16
kyoobehfrom what i can tell, anyways..00:17
kyoobehi'm doing a memory test right now00:17
durtkyoobeh: ctrl-alt-F8 to follow the boot process.00:17
Xikkubman i wish i had a better laptop00:17
zoredachekyoobeh: how much memory do you have?00:17
kyoobehits showing on the screen right now00:17
kyoobehMemor: 120M00:17
kyoobehi'm guessing that this isn't enough :P00:18
durtouch00:18
knomekyoobeh, too little.00:18
durtcpu?00:18
Xikkubit should be enough00:18
kyoobeh800.1 MHz00:18
Xikkubits below recommended but its above the minimum00:18
Xikkubahhh00:18
knomekyoobeh, 192 is the *min* for *running* xubuntu.00:18
kyoobehlol, this is an ooooold laptop00:18
kyoobehahh, i see..00:18
Xikkuboh apparently the article i got is outdated00:18
knomeXikkub, can you link me into it?00:19
zoredache!lowmem | kyoobeh00:19
ubottukyoobeh: For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems.  See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements.00:19
kyoobehoooh, thank you zoredache00:19
Xikkuboh i cant remember where it is00:19
zoredachehrm... the urls are broke...00:19
durtkyoobeh: google U-lite for an unsupported ubuntu derived install that might work better on 128 meg00:19
Xikkubi probably saw it years ago and didnt bother to look it up again00:19
zoredachezoredache: the urls aren't broke, you just aren't suppose to include the trailing period00:21
durtdoh!00:21
kyoobehV-Lite eh00:21
FoxkehWell, nevermind, according to Charlie I've got NTFS and when I go to the bathroom obviously too much pops up, I'm just gonna trust Charlie on this.00:21
durtU-lite00:21
FoxkehThanks.00:21
kyoobehU00:21
kyoobeh(just installed mIRC)00:21
kyoobehits that UGLY ass text that they use as default...00:22
durton linux ?!?00:22
Xikkubany c programmers know if system("pause") can send commands to ubuntu terminal00:22
Xikkubi like icechat00:22
Xikkubits cleaners and freer00:22
kyoobehno no no, i'm on my desktop right now... booted into XP as we speak..00:22
zoredachewhat do you mean send commands to the terminal?  'pause' isn't a command btw00:22
kyoobehblasphemy, i'm sorry ;[00:22
durtI wish there was a linux port of mIRC00:23
sowdogdurt: why?00:23
Xikkubu could always make an irc client00:24
durtI remeber it as a really decent app00:24
zoredacheif you are asking if you can use the internal commands from a shell you could do system("bash -c \"internalcmd\" ") or something to that effect00:24
Xikkubok ty00:24
kyoobehdurt, do you know of any u-lite torrents?00:24
Xikkubyeah wasnt shure if it needed to use winapi or not00:24
sowdoghi all, got a question. I tried setting up my wireless with iwconfig, but i'd always fail setting the keys and some googling , i think its the RTL8187 driver. Anyhow, why does it work with xubuntu's nw-applet?00:25
charlie-tcaFoxkeh: don't trust, find out for certain00:25
Xikkubis that the TEW-424UB?00:25
durtkyoobeh: no, sorry. But you should read up on it before you decide to use it.00:25
Xikkubsowdog: is that the TEW-424UB?00:25
kyoobehok00:25
durtkyoobeh: very specific install instructions00:25
kyoobehyeah, was looking them over just now00:26
sowdogXikkub, I've no idea what is the TEW-424UB00:26
Xikkubthe driver00:26
Xikkubwhat is the network card you are using00:26
kyoobehwon't be able to get xubuntu to run on this laptop, it seems00:26
kyoobehso i'll just have to look at other options00:26
Xikkubsowdog: what is the network card you are using00:26
zoredachekyoobeh: I suspect I would look at something like DSL00:26
Xikkubsowdog ill pm you00:27
Jaredsterhello. I was wondering if someone could help me with my resolution problem. Here is the thread I just made for it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6764890#post676489000:27
sowdogXikkub, it's a wireless USB card. I think the drivers are RTL818700:27
kyoobehzoredache: I'll google it00:27
FoxkehOk, Charlie, so what do I look for in "Mount"00:27
Foxkeh?00:27
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durtkyoobeh: I'm using it on a PII 96meg old toshy satelite, aside from a gecko (mozilla) based browser that eats mem like pacman. It's fairly mem/cpu footprint light.00:28
durtkyoobeh: DSL is good also puppy linux00:28
kyoobehDSL seems pretty cool, I wish i didn't use my last CD-r just now lol00:30
Moodanyone use joomla here?00:30
Moodjust curious00:30
Jaredsterwhen you guys arent busy can someone please tell me how to change the login screen resolution00:30
JaredsterI tried editing the xorg.conf, but the file is blank.00:31
MoodJaredster: just the login screen?00:31
MoodJaredster: that's kind of strange00:31
Jaredsterwell, the login screen stays at 1280x1024, which isnt compatible with my tv00:31
Jaredsterbut the xfce I was able to change to 1024x76800:32
Jaredsterwant me to open an ssh?00:32
* Mood goes Huh?00:32
Foxkehjoin #wings3d00:32
durtJaredster: not sure if GDM uses xorg.conf, but xorg now autoconfigures itself, and then parses xorg.conf for customized settings00:32
FoxkehHow do you join an irc?00:32
MoodFoxkeh: type /join00:32
JaredsterFoxkeh, /j wings3d00:32
Jaredsteror /join00:33
FoxkehOk.00:33
charlie-tcaFoxkeh: look for a line line /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)00:33
Jaredsterits weird though, I cant change the login screen resolution00:33
charlie-tcawhere it says ext3, what have you got?00:33
Jaredsterdurt, how would I reconfigure it then?00:33
Jaredsterso it can only do 1024x76800:33
kyoobeham i going to want to download dsl-4.4.10.iso ?00:33
kyoobehto burn it to a CD00:34
durtJaredster: get an old template of xorg.conf and edit it.00:34
kyoobehor dsl-4.4.10-initrd.iso ?00:34
kyoobehprobably just the standard one...00:34
Jaredstercan I use any template?00:34
FoxkehCharlie-tca: Ok. I'll show you what it says.00:34
zoredachekyoobeh: the initrd will need more memory00:34
charlie-tcacopy and paste it to pastebin00:35
charlie-tca!pastebin00:35
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)00:35
durtJaredster: hold on a sec lemme check /usr/share/docs...00:35
Jaredsterok thanks00:35
kyoobehok, thanks Zoredache00:35
kyoobehthis distro looks to be helpful00:36
Foxkehcharlie-tca: This is the first "ext3" I found. "/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)"00:36
kyoobehI'll be back, gonna go buy some CD-r's00:37
charlie-tcayou have other types in there00:37
kyoobehthen i'm going to try out DSL :P00:37
Foxkeh?00:38
charlie-tcaFoxkeh: can you copy and paste that whole thing to pastebin?00:38
Xikkubdamn small linux00:38
Xikkubanybody a c\c++ programmer here?00:38
durtJaredster: doesn't semm to be there, google xorg.conf + your lappy/or your video card to find one.00:38
Foxkehcharlie-tca: "/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)00:39
Foxkehtmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)00:39
Foxkehsysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)00:39
Foxkehvarrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)00:39
Foxkehvarlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)00:39
Foxkehudev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)00:39
Jaredsterok00:39
Foxkehtmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)00:39
Foxkehdevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)00:39
Foxkehfusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)00:39
Foxkeh/dev/sda2 on /host type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)00:39
Foxkehlrm on /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=755)00:39
Foxkehsecurityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)00:39
Foxkeh"00:39
Xikkubahhh00:39
Xikkub>.<00:39
knome!pastebin | Foxkeh00:40
ubottuFoxkeh: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)00:40
FoxkehOh. didn't know that.00:40
zoredacheFoxkeh: which filesystem is it complaining about?00:40
zoredacheyou should be able to run fsck -y /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk when you are booted into safe mode00:41
Xikkubanybody experimented with backtrack at all00:42
FoxkehSo now do I have to give the link to the pastebin url?00:42
Sw3RvEim having an issue with my theme and firefox. when i use the Xfce-dusk theme i cant see the website addres in the address bar on firefox.00:42
FoxkehDoes it happen if you close and reopen Firefox?00:43
Sw3RvEyea its white on white00:43
Sw3RvEso i cant read it unless i highlight it00:44
FoxkehThat usually fixes my search bar and address bar when they stop working.00:44
FoxkehGo into "Edit>Prefferences" and see if something's in there on it.00:44
Sw3RvEits working... its not that. its a color issue.00:44
Sw3RvEi did i tried changing colors00:44
Sw3RvEit doesnt work on that part of firefox tho00:44
FoxkehHuh?00:45
FoxkehWhat do you mean" Didn't work on that part of firefox"?00:45
Sw3RvEit doesnt affect the address bar when i change the font color or background color.00:46
Xikkubsudo apt-get install firefox XD00:46
alienkidso guys ho00:46
alienkidw'd his proplem go(Foxkeh's)00:46
Xikkubhis comp apparently cant handle it00:46
Sw3RvEwhat?00:47
alienkidcan't handle what? So what we gonna do?00:47
knomeFoxkeh, alienkid: maybe ask #ubuntu because nobody seems to be able to help here00:47
FoxkehSo, how's pastebin work?00:47
charlie-tcaYou go to the URL given, paste your information there, then give us the URL it tells you00:48
Foxkehhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/120375/00:48
alienkidI told him00:48
alienkidI'll go cheek #ubuntu00:48
charlie-tcaThen you do what zoredache said;00:49
charlie-tca<zoredache> you should be able to run fsck -y /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk when you are booted into safe mode00:49
FoxkehOk.00:49
FoxkehBut what, Windows safe mode?00:49
charlie-tcano, you need to do it in linux. From the boot from ubuntu menu, after it starts, hit ESC and then choose recovery mode00:51
FoxkehOh. But you can't tpye in terminal there, can you? It's got an "fsck" option.00:51
alienkidthen what root terminal?00:51
FoxkehBut you can't type.00:51
charlie-tcaYes, root00:52
FoxkehOk, I'll leave my brother to do that when it happens.00:52
charlie-tcaWhat has an "fsck" option?00:52
FoxkehHe's the nerd, afterall.00:52
FoxkehIn recovery the little gui thing.00:52
FoxkehI have a question, Charlie, how long have you been using Linux?00:52
charlie-tcasince 200500:53
alienkidCharlie should I tune2fs from there to up the mount count on it?00:53
charlie-tcaI started with Ubuntu 5.0400:53
alienkid*could00:53
FoxkehWow.00:53
XikkubRed Hat FTW00:53
FoxkehNo, Ubuntu.00:53
Xikkubno Red Hat00:53
MoodNo, Xubuntu00:53
knome##linux for flamewar00:53
Xikkubno Windows00:53
knomePLEASE!00:54
Xikkubhehe00:54
Foxkehgtg00:54
knomei'll kick ye all of if this goes on for any longer.00:54
knome:P00:54
charlie-tcaalienkid: I think you have to use "fsck -y /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk"00:54
Moodwhat's the #xubuntu bot?00:55
knome!bot00:55
charlie-tcaOh, alienkid. Yes, I think you could set it there00:55
ubottuHi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots00:55
zoredachehi ubottu00:55
alienkidyeah but after can I up the mount count to it from the root terminal?00:55
Moodoh yrsh.... any other bots?00:55
charlie-tcayes00:55
zoredachewell there us ubuntulog, but he is pretty much silent00:55
alienkidok thanks00:56
knomeMood, people sometimes have thought i'm one.00:56
Moodknome: heh heh00:56
charlie-tcaMood: Isn't one irritating enough for us?00:56
knomeMood, no, really :P00:56
Moodcharlie-tca: i think _YOU'RE_ a bot! lol00:56
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knomeMood, even if he is a machine doesn't mean he's a bot :P00:57
charlie-tcaas observed by the bad advice given at times00:57
charlie-tcaGive me a break today.00:57
charlie-tcaI just read a lot!00:59
Moodheehee00:59
XikkubWelcome to #xubuntu! You can search my brain at http://smouch.net/lol/00:59
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knomewasn't relevant either.01:00
Xikkublol nt though01:00
charlie-tcaSomeday I'm going to learn how to use that 'bot01:01
Xikkublol haha01:02
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Mooddoesn't xubuntu =? drugs? it sure is addictive01:06
Xikkubim having fun torturing ubottu01:06
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Xikkubhahaha01:07
knomezoredache, yes, but you can't search for channel-specific factoids in private.01:07
zoredachewhich seems kinda silly01:08
knomeyah01:08
zoredachetell 'them' to fix that01:08
knomei also can't find out how to add channel specific factoids.01:08
Xikkub[20:08] <Xikkub> anything01:08
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zoredacheMyrtti knows how, you could bug her01:09
knomezoredache, asked jussi0101:09
XikkubLOL UBOTTU ISNT RESPONDING TO ME HEHE01:10
knomeMyrtti, hei mörkö.01:10
s19113iDoes the gecko media player for firefox   work in xubuntu?01:11
knomes19113i, i'd suppose so.01:12
Jaredsterdurt, didnt work me thinks01:12
s19113iThanks Knome!  I'll give it a go.01:13
s19113iOne more question.  Is the proceedure for installing nvidia 177 the same in xubuntu as ubuntu?01:15
zoredaches19113i: it should be01:16
Xikkub it should be01:16
Xikkub[19:44] <Sw3RvE> it doesnt w01:16
s19113iThanks again, I prefer xfce to gnome.  That's why I'm switching.01:17
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durt Jaredster:well take a look at 'man xorg.conf' to re-familiarize yourself with the structure and googling xorg.conf will give you a good idea of what you need to put in the thing. It can be video card and monitor specific.01:33
JaredsterI tried to make one, but it didn't work.01:33
JaredsterI'm going to install the beta and see if that fixes it01:33
durtbeta of what?01:34
Jaredsterubuntu01:34
durtthere's a beta out? already?01:34
Jaredsterhttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/01:34
Jaredstererr alpha01:34
Jaredster>_>01:34
Jaredsterthis problem completely disables the entire computer for me01:35
JaredsterI also tried making my own xorg.conf, but it gave me errors and reverted to the old version.01:35
durtum, I'm running jaunty on my desktop and today was a baaaaaad day for alpha testers.01:35
Jaredstermaybe I did something wrong.01:35
Jaredsterwhy's that?01:35
durtGDM got nuked and fixed in a span of a few hours01:36
durtif thats the type of thing you wish to deal with01:36
durtstick with 8.10 and work on a solution.01:37
Jaredsterok01:37
kyoobehinstalling DSL now01:39
kyoobehthat took like 5 minutes, hahaha01:39
durtI think you can still run DSL in ram, with 128 meg if I'm not mistaken?01:40
Xikkub[A]ya i think so01:41
durtya, 800 MHz is gonna be fast, why not get more ram for the thing?01:41
kyoobeheh, i could01:41
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kyoobehbut that costs me moneys :P01:42
kyoobehmaybe i will soon01:42
kyoobehdunno how easy it'd be to put ram into this lappy though01:42
Xikkubram is pretty cheap tho01:42
durtnot if it's older ram, ie. PC33301:43
durtif you can find it01:43
Xikkubahhhh yeah i forgot about that01:43
Xikkubold tings are so expensive01:43
kyoobehthis thing runs like butter on DSL..01:43
Xikkubwell of course it does XD01:44
kyoobehlol01:44
Xikkubwhat kernel does dsl use?01:44
durtditch the bitch and make the switch to eeepc01:44
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kyoobehdurt, that's probably what i'm going to do when i'm ready to spend money on a laptop..01:44
Xikkubi so want a new laptop01:45
Xikkubmine is a piece of 115, 104, 105, 11601:45
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* Xikkub cant wait for these stupid updates to finish installing01:55
VisuaWareI dont surpose xubuntu is surpose to be flashing screen for ages with red green blue white black  at installation?  :P02:12
* kyoobeh wonders if Wine would work on DSL02:12
Xikkubat the startup screen i get those funky colors but it goes to normal in like 1 second02:13
* Xikkub also wonders if Wine would work on DSL02:13
VisuaWareit dont for me, did it for like 30seconds+ and i got tired of it and hit power button, then it did popup back to Xubuntu logo and saying to take out the CD/DVD  and it finaly power down....02:14
Xikkubwait, during install?02:14
Xikkubumm02:14
VisuaWareyea, booted on dvd, picked to install ... a few seconds after it started the color crap02:14
Xikkubyou tried rebooting? did it install right?02:14
VisuaWareAMD64 version02:14
Xikkubyou are sure you have that architecture computer?02:14
VisuaWareand yea i tried boot.. nothing worked, dont think it got that far02:15
durtkyoobeh: check the website and see if anyone has added the.... uh whatever the DSL equivalent is of .deb... for the distro.02:15
VisuaWareQ6600 is 64bit so im hoping to god it will run 64 bit arch02:15
Xikkubwen did the colors appear during installation?02:16
kyoobehi needa find a PCMCIA card for this thing lol02:17
Xikkublol haha02:17
VisuaWarepretty much as soon as it started02:17
Xikkubdid u "check cd for defects"02:17
Xikkubmightve been a bad burn02:18
Xikkubit may also be that you didnt do a clean shutdown of windows02:18
Xikkubthat is if you have windows02:18
durtkyoobeh: what? network card?02:18
VisuaWareim asuming 32 bit linux also limited on the RAM?  i been using xp32 for some time, as hated vista.. and do have 8gb ram in this box id like to see avalible :P02:18
zoredacheVisuaWare: well you could use pae, but that comes at a performance cost....02:19
zoredacheI would guess that it is related to your video card somehow, not the cpu architecture02:19
zoredacheyou might give the alternate installer a shot02:20
zoredache!alternate | VisuaWare02:20
ubottuVisuaWare: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate link on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent02:20
Sw3RvEwhy dont you just use 64-bit XP or 64-bit Ubuntu/Xubuntu02:20
VisuaWareis what i was trying to do :P   well 64bit XP too much issues, and as i dont play the "games" i used too... figured time to go Linux for good :P02:20
VisuaWareas can always get wine or whatever if need be someday02:21
Xikkubyeah but games under wine are often slow02:21
VisuaWarewell games i play on this box.. is a OVERKILL lets put it like that :P02:21
VisuaWareAlternate cd also avalible as 64bit i asume?  else could just download the regular i386 tho be kinda sad02:22
zoredacheyes, it is02:23
VisuaWaredownloadin it and praying it works,02:25
zoredacheVisuaWare: I suspect it will install.  If you are having a video problem like I suspect you'll probably have to fight xorg configuration a bit once you get installed02:26
VisuaWarewell got 2x  8800 GTs in it, and did have issues w whatever distro i tried last year, but that did install but xwin did go crazy when i tried install the correct drivers, hence i fked it all up as didnt know how to fix it again :P02:27
forceshttp://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7131/xforcesot5.png02:44
Xikkubwhat distro02:45
Xikkuberes de espanol?02:45
durtforces: before I click on your link, what is it about?02:46
forcesxfce02:46
Xikkub(jus a pic of his com)02:46
forcesXikkub, hablo español02:46
forcesmas que el ingles02:46
forces:P02:46
forcesla verdad aca entro para practicarlo02:47
Xikkubquiero la idioma02:47
Xikkubtomo la clase de espanol y me gusta mucho02:47
Xikkubno se si estoy un buen estudiante pero me gusta02:48
Xikkubyo vi "sin nombre" y supe que hablas espanol02:49
forcesXikkub, pues no hablas tan mal02:49
forces:P02:49
forcessolo te falta práctica02:49
forceslo mismo hago yo con el inglés02:49
Xikkubgracias02:49
Xikkubjaja02:49
forces:P02:51
XikkubPORQUE UBUNTU ESTA HACIENDO MAS IDIOMAS EN MY COMPUTADORA? :( mi computadora no es tan grande02:51
forcesXikkub, no entiendo02:53
forcescomo así haciendo?02:53
forcesno será instalando?02:53
Xikkubsi02:53
Xikkubno se como decir02:53
forcesXikkub, es porque los has seleccionado02:54
forcessi seleccionas varios idiomas ubuntu los instalara02:54
Xikkubsi, instale todos02:55
forcespues por eso02:56
forcesdesinstalalos02:56
Xikkubpero es buen porque ubuntu es muy popular y es buen que instalar para personas extranjeras02:56
Xikkubverdad?02:56
Xikkubhace tres horas que instalo los instalados02:58
Xikkub:(02:58
VisuaWareok installed the alternate cd, and after boot and try start xubuntu it does the coloring screens again03:00
Xikkubu went into console boot03:00
Xikkubnon graphical mode03:00
Xikkub>03:00
Xikkub?03:00
VisuaWarefirst option so im guessing graphical 2nd was safe-mode i think it said, ill know in 2sec03:01
VisuaWaregeneric and recovery.. so was generic i used03:01
Xikkubyeah u should try non graphical mode if its available. thats probably whats casuing the screen problem03:01
Xikkubi remember when i had red hat, it put my monitor out of range03:01
VisuaWarein GRUB right now.. how am i gettin to textmode so can fix this?03:02
VisuaWarerecovery mode?03:02
Xikkubyes03:02
Xikkubthat should do it03:03
VisuaWareany hint where to go ajust the mode, havent been near linux for years so yeah just need it "starting" proper so can get down to learning again :P03:04
Xikkubadjust screen size u mean?03:04
Xikkubresolution03:04
VisuaWareyeah possibly, my guess is its the refresh rate thats off03:05
VisuaWaremax 60hz on this baby i think03:05
Xikkubhmm. not sure. never had to mess with that03:05
Xikkubmaybe somebody else here could help03:05
Xikkub?03:05
VisuaWaremmm is there midnight commander or whatever it was called in the basic install?03:06
Xikkubdunno what that is03:06
VisuaWareala "norton commander" from ol dos days :P03:07
Xikkubahh03:07
Xikkubthats a file explorer tho03:08
Xikkubi can just use cd,ls,mkdir etc etc03:08
forcesos[Linux 2.6.24-23-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.83GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 78.8% free] disk[Total: 1.1TB, 85.6% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]03:08
Xikkubbueno!03:08
Xikkublaptop?03:09
forcesporque?03:09
Xikkubquiero que saber03:09
zoredacheVisuaWare: I don't think mc is in the base install, but it should be trivial to install it.  'apt-get install mc'03:09
VisuaWaremmm guess this console wont let me do shit... xconfig i was pretty sure was the config for xwin qq03:09
VisuaWareya i found that out, but network aint working i guess03:10
Xikkubthe console isnt the same as a terminal03:10
forcesXikkub, si03:10
zoredacheOne of the options is to start a root shell03:10
Xikkubson mismos?03:10
Xikkubo tu computadora es un "laptop"03:11
Xikkub1TB? dios mio ;)03:11
forcesXikkub, 1.1TB03:12
Xikkub1.1 es el mismo -.-03:12
Xikkubmas o menos03:12
forcespero me ha contado mi disco duro externo03:12
forcesmiremos si lo desmonto03:12
forcesvaya ahora a ver03:12
forcesos[Linux 2.6.24-23-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 78.5% free] disk[Total: 1011.8GB, 85.5% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]03:12
Xikkubtengo que "translatar" los frases XD03:13
forcesvez03:13
forcesdesmontar = umount03:13
Xikkubcontado03:13
Xikkubduro03:13
VisuaWareroot@q6600, but i cant even do a ls  o.o03:13
forcesXikkub, se dice traducir03:13
VisuaWarelol never felt this disabled in my life03:13
Xikkubyeah it sux03:13
VisuaWarebuntu dont like me much i think :/03:15
Xikkubvoy a usar Xchat03:15
Xikkublol ubuntu dunt like anybody03:15
Xikkubcept the smart ones03:15
Xikkubbrb03:16
VisuaWarecant fix anything with my hands cuffed on the back -.-03:17
Xikkubback03:20
Xikkubwow wine is beast03:21
Xikkubsuper beast03:21
VisuaWareok can u tell me WHERE the xorg.conf is located on this dist... aint in etc/X11/  as folder missin for me lol03:26
xikkub2hey s3xy03:26
Xikkubhi thar03:26
xikkub2ur hawt03:26
Xikkubwhy ty03:26
zoredacheVisuaWare: it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:26
VisuaWareX11 aint in there o.o03:27
xikkub2hey everybody03:27
VisuaWarenvm finaly worked lol i hate this qq03:27
xikkub2U STOLE MA NAME03:27
Xikkubno u03:27
durtVisuaWare: then you have a corrupted install - check again03:28
xikkub2wtf. whyd u steal my name03:28
xikkub2omfg everybody is stealing my name03:29
Xikkubno, u are03:29
Xikkub3NO U03:29
xikkub2stoppit, im the real xikkub03:29
Xikkub3why lie03:29
VisuaWareany edit options INSTALLED by default?  that dont need install from net, as aint working yet03:29
Xikkubim not lying03:29
xikkub2shut up03:29
VisuaWaregedit was only one i remember but thats not installed in this :P03:29
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durtVisuaWare: on CLI, nano03:30
zoredacheVisuaWare: nano is available03:30
Xikkubnot cool03:30
xikkub2yes, we  already know ur not cool03:30
XikkubPLZ STOP03:30
VisuaWareTHANK YOU!03:30
xikkub2no u03:30
Xikkub3ass hole03:30
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Xikkub3suck my cock03:31
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Xikkubthank you03:31
durtis this a Terry Guilliam screen play?03:31
zoredachethanks Cody :)03:32
Xikkubthanks03:33
Xikkubmy friends are going crazy03:33
VisuaWareaint nothing set but Default monitor etc in the conf... mmmm wasnt there a textmode setup for X config..03:34
durtVisuaWare: what version?03:35
VisuaWareall i know is i installed xubuntu 8.10 alternate AMD6403:36
VisuaWareand network aint working and display is fked so need fix the monitor b4 i can try fix the net :P03:36
zoredacheis the network wired or wireless?  What type of card?03:37
VisuaWarewired,  onboard the  Asus Striker. so a nvidia chipset03:37
VisuaWarei can go find exact specs if need03:37
zoredacheif you run the command 'ip addr' do you see any interfaces other then lo?03:38
VisuaWare1: lo, 2: eth0  3: eth1   and only eth0 i know is connected, only using 1 of the ports03:39
zoredacheare you sure eth0 is eth0?  perhaps the interfaces are in a different order then you expect?03:40
VisuaWarewell that could be .P03:40
zoredacherun 'ip link' and see which interfaces is reported as DOWN03:40
VisuaWareboth of them03:40
zoredachetry running the command dhclient eth0 and if that doesn't work try dhclient eth103:41
Xikkubwireshark is win03:41
VisuaWareooo some happen here :Ã…03:42
Xikkub?03:42
VisuaWareeth0 is no longer down :P03:42
zoredachedid you get an ip?03:42
VisuaWareyea, and it works, i tested w apt-get install MC :P03:43
VisuaWareworked now03:43
zoredacheok, you might also want to install envyng-core03:43
VisuaWarewhat is that03:43
zoredacheit is a tool that helps you install the nvidia drivers03:43
durtnot on 8.10, jockey-gtk03:43
VisuaWareso is that a "not" to me? o.o03:44
durtenvyng for 8.0403:44
durtif it's an nvidia prob03:44
zoredachedurt: it is still in the repos for 8.10.  Will he be able to use jockey if the gui doesn't work at all?03:45
VisuaWarei think it is, anycase the xorg.conf had ALL DEfault ... nothing was set to anything other than default03:45
VisuaWareand that wont work on this poor monitor03:45
durtzoredache: won't be able to use envy either if no gui03:46
zoredachedurt: envy has a command-line component03:46
zoredacheenvyng -t03:46
durti stand corrected03:47
VisuaWareim a total noob, BUT i remember last time i try linux years ago... xwin had a damn textmode config for setting up monitor etc03:47
VisuaWarexconfig or some chit03:47
VisuaWarebut that aint working :P03:47
zoredachelets say it this way, it worked for me for getting my nvidia 9500 going...  But I am definatly not the person to talk to about video/xorg issues03:48
durtVisuaWare: what card?03:48
VisuaWare2x 8800 GT03:49
durtVisuaWare: should be recognized of the bat, you think it's a monitor prob?03:49
VisuaWareusing a 30" Samsung and max i know is 60hz any resolution...from what i remember03:50
VisuaWaredid they remove the textmode setup for xwin? since noone confirm or deny that exists03:51
durtP/N number for it? google it if necessary,  ya, the old xf86config is loooooong been deprecated.03:53
zoredachewho is 'they'?  the xorg guys have been trying as hard as they can to get xorg to a point where it configures itself automatically03:54
VisuaWarethey.. the nice boys who did the xubuntu dist :P they can do as they see fit no? :P03:54
zoredachethe xorg package did some configuration up until the recent release, but that was removed in favor of just letting xorg try and figure things out itself03:55
VisuaWaregreat they try be like M$  .-03:56
VisuaWareautomatic always seams to "fail" along the lines03:56
durtzoredache: most of the time this works OOTB, old or obscure monitors are the biggest head-ache03:56
VisuaWarewhats a "nicer" editor to plug in here,  Nano really aint me sorry :P03:56
VisuaWarebut now that aptget works, ill take use of it :P03:57
zoredachedo vi or emacs work for you?03:57
zoredacheonce you get a gui working there are lots of good choices03:57
VisuaWareim a sucker for good old dos shit from BBS days u know :P so yea a classic as possible "edit" would do :P03:57
durtVisuaWare: xorg guys still have xorg.conf for us to fiddle with03:57
VisuaWareya i just need a textmode one right now03:58
VisuaWaredurt is one im about to "FIDDLE" with...03:58
VisuaWarewith some google help on trying to make it "work" for now enuff to boot xwin anyways03:58
durtwtf is xwin?03:59
VisuaWarebut i defently need learn terminal chit too,  already shocked how easy zoredache fixed my network03:59
VisuaWareSORRY :P X11 ^^03:59
Xikkubwhat was the problem03:59
Xikkubi just got on03:59
VisuaWarezoredache and thanks a lot for that btw ;)04:00
zoredacheVisuaWare: that was a temporary fix.  to permanently fix it, you'll probably need to tweak your /etc/network/interfaces file a bit04:00
durteverybody shutup about Xikkub04:00
Xikkub?04:01
Xikkubwhats goin on04:01
durteverybody   ssshhhhh..04:01
VisuaWarelol ya tweak --  i think its tweeking me more than i am it for now04:01
Xikkubdurt: wtf is going on04:02
durtJa, bother love, good luck mon04:02
Xikkubsrsly dude, wtf04:02
durtXikkub: seriously bother, nuttin goin on04:03
durt*brother04:03
Xikkublol im not stupid04:03
Xikkubnow wuts going on04:03
aunoaibhi04:05
aunoaibi cant find any free programs to record my desktop04:06
durtnobody 'ere but us chickens, like say.04:06
zoredacherecord your desktop?  what do you mean?  Are you wanting a screenshot?04:06
aunoaibno, a screencast04:06
aunoaiblike record a video of my screen04:06
aunoaibi found one but its like not freeware04:07
zoredacheaunoaib: maybe pyvnc2swf04:08
zoredacheyou basically have to setup a vnc server, and it records the vnc output04:08
Xikkubinteresting. i should look into that too04:09
Xikkubonce i get wireshark to work :(04:09
aunoaibi have wireshark, too, but i cant figure out how to find information about the wpa network04:10
Xikkubyeah im clueless as well04:10
aunoaibwe need to find some wireshark irc channels04:13
zoredacheaunoaib: you might also check out wink04:13
aunoaib??04:13
zoredache!info wink04:13
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aunoaibahh. interesting04:14
aunoaib!info g++04:15
VisuaWarewell figured out how to download a damn xorg conf file someone had for the samsung 305t, and THAT got me MUCh further :P qq04:15
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VisuaWarei have GUI, mouse and WOOOO a Error on 3 devices.. im getting somewhere lol04:15
aunoaiblol04:15
slvhi, is it possible to run 64-bit windows VM's under 64-bit xubuntu? if so what VM software is recommended, virtualbox?04:16
aunoaibcant u run any type of os under vm04:16
VisuaWarelol bad idea to try fix that, now im in rainbow colors again qq04:16
zoredacheslv: i know you can do it under vmware04:16
slvok thx04:17
zoredacheaunoaib: depends on the virtualization.  vmware depends heavily on the cpu, so to run a 64bit os you must have a 64bit processor, and host os04:17
aunoaibahh, i understand04:18
Xikkubhow do u register a nick04:18
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aunoaiblol xikkub how u liking ur ubuntu04:19
Xikkubget of my computer. now04:19
aunoaiblolwut04:20
Xikkuboff. now.04:20
VisuaWareok now, so what you say to install on 8.10 for nvidia to mess up x11 some more04:20
zoredacheyou might try installing and running jockey like durt suggested04:21
VisuaWarejockey-gtk?  i can get to x11 now but had some errors, but it can "start" now, just used another conf someone w GTS and same monitor... im on a GT tho04:21
aunoaibhehe xikkub04:24
Xikkubhehe aunoaib04:24
VisuaWarewell im in x11 now.. so any suggestion what to do to fix the nvidia madness04:26
VisuaWareguessing get the drivers in officialy and hope it works qq04:27
VisuaWareah nice, yeah X did change since i saw it last :P04:28
VisuaWarenvidia 177.82 in and works ;) that wasnt so bad afterall04:32
durtVisuaWare: if your feeling adventurous try 180.11 that's the latest and greatest for 8.1004:34
VisuaWarelol04:34
VisuaWarewasnt on the list "officialy" so i think ill wait till i tested a bit more first, before i need "repair" a fkup again haha04:35
durtyour card should be supported04:35
VisuaWarewhere should i install it at,  updates almost done04:38
aunoaibstupid shortcut key to terminal04:40
Xikkublol04:41
VisuaWareim in looooveeee :P   722mib of 7,8gib used :P04:42
VisuaWareeven during System update install process its barely using the cores v.v04:42
Xikkubi cant fking get this wireshark to work :(04:44
durtfor anyone who wants to know which nvidia driver they should pick, peruse this list from nvidia (bookmark it!): http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.29/README/appendix-a.html04:44
* aunoaib bookmarked it04:44
* Xikkub bookmarked it cuz we are same person, dumb@$$04:45
* Reno` already downloaded it :)04:45
VisuaWareso should i just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 nvidia-180-modaliases ?   googled it :P04:48
VisuaWareas its not in the hardware drivers list yet04:48
Xikkubnadie sabe como usar wireshark?04:51
Xikkubnobody knows how to use wireshark>04:52
durtVisuaWare: are you sure? 180.11 was most definitely available for me. Are you running jockey?04:52
VisuaWarewell i installed it... dont ask me if im running it :P how do i know lol04:53
durtapplications -> system tools -> hardware drivers04:53
durtor in a terminal: sudo jockey-gtk04:54
VisuaWarehardware drivers still 177 highest04:54
VisuaWareand the command in terminal shows the hardware drivers with same result04:55
durtwhat card again?04:56
VisuaWare8800 GT04:56
VisuaWarelol windows is soooo going bye bye and limited to a vmware sometimes maybe :P04:57
durtwell according to nvidia 8800 GT is supported by 180, don't know why it's not coming up in jockey04:58
Ishmaelhello my tech savvy friends04:58
durtdude get that whale out of here04:59
Ishmael?04:59
Ishmaelthe whale was the other guy04:59
Reno`hmm what will work faster xubuntu-desktop or if i install some components xfce ?04:59
durtReno`: I think it all depends how much gnome you get rid of.05:00
Xikkubwell see ya guys later05:01
Ishmaelxubuntu boots into a command line screen, where i have to type "Exit" to boot into the gui, and thus start the vino server that i use to access it, how do i get it to boot straight to the gui?05:01
Xikkubyou need to change your startup file05:01
Xikkubforgot whats called05:01
XikkubXD05:01
Ishmaelquantum networking bits look like both ones and zeros05:02
Reno`bgg i think i destroy gnome-desktop-data and another gnome package :D05:02
durtIshmael: saw one that looked like my cat too.05:04
Ishmaela quantum bit? i doubt the veracity of your statements05:05
durtum.... string theory?05:07
Ishmaelohhhhhh05:08
Ishmaelstring theory05:08
durtwell, I was going to prepare a well thought out equation that would prove that the previous statement came from one of many multiple universes but the daily show just came on.05:11
durtuhh, it's a rerun.05:13
VisuaWaredosbox installed... mmm and what u suggest for virtual os for windows.... VMWARE or we have any free goodies avalible thats good?05:22
Ishmaeli've been using wine, and have been happy with it, although i think it made me freeze last time i used a certain program05:30
VisuaWaredownloading VirtualBox OSE... hoping its any good, but again, i highly doubt any OSS Team can make as many flaws as M$ so ill take my chances lol05:30
VisuaWarei just need a XP32 avalible for a few things, rest it seams linux will do much better now anyways05:31
Ishmaelif anyone who's active can tell me how to get rid of that initial boot command-line, plz help05:35
durtwhy? It'll save your butt if you screw up your install.05:37
Ishmaelhmm...easy as changing grub?05:37
Ishmaelbut it's a server with no keyboard/mouse/monitor05:38
Ishmaelwithout vino, i'm blind, i have to manually hook up my keyboard, assume it's ready for "exit" and then try to log in with vnc05:38
durtI don't get it. You need user input to boot?05:38
Ishmaelyeah, it won't go past the command line unless i type "exit"05:39
durt!vino05:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about vino05:39
Ishmaeland then it loads the gui05:39
Ishmaelvino is vnc, just one i've found05:39
durtunderstood05:40
VisuaWareok 2 final questions, what be best way to get my NTFS shit to a partition buntu likes and any "utorrent" alike for linux? so far once i look at are rather plain simple for downloading05:42
durtso you boot to a CLI, input login/password, then exit and it starts x?05:42
Ishmaeli don't even need login/password.  simply "exit"05:42
durthow do you login?05:43
Ishmaeland it auto-boots into my default account after that05:43
Ishmaeli just don't want to have to type exit, so i can turn on the box, if it had to restart, and go straight to it from vnc05:43
Ishmaelfor torrents: the fanciest i've seen is "vuze", but lately i've enjoyed deluge05:44
durtpersonally I like ctorrent or rtorrent both command line apps.05:45
Ishmaelvuze is java based i think, so it hogs up resources...or at least it does in my mind05:45
VisuaWareTransmission  looks so so, but i wouldnt know qq05:46
durtbest gui torrent app I've used is ktorrent the kde native app.05:46
Ishmaeli'll have to look into the client's durt mentioned05:46
durttransmission is cpu hungry too.05:47
Ishmaelktorrent didn't really do it for me05:47
durtI found ktorrent slightly less resource hungry than transmission05:48
durt*slightly*05:49
Ishmaelonly thing i don't like about deluge is that i haven't found any option that lets it minimize to the icon05:49
Ishmaelso when you close it out, it really stops05:49
Sw3RvEhow do i make my terminal look like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Xfce-4.4.png05:49
VisuaWarektorrent it will be for now i think05:51
VisuaWarei would go for ctorrent if wasnt a discontiniued project for now, im picky like that :P05:51
IshmaelSw3RvE, are they using xfwm4?05:51
Sw3RvEidk its on the wikipedia05:52
Ishmaeli think that's what it's advertising... do you mean how to install?05:52
Sw3RvEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce05:52
Ishmaelhave you seen the windows vs. linux video?05:54
VisuaWarethis is the first time ever it went so "smooth" gettin into linux and working...05:54
VisuaWarenow only missing a "nero" replacement... and i think i found my new home .P05:54
Ishmaelk3b05:54
Sw3RvEme or vis05:54
IshmaelVisuaWare, k3b05:54
Ishmaelmy bad05:54
Ishmaeland video question is for Sw3RvE05:55
Sw3RvEno05:55
VisuaWarethanks for all your help all of you..  past the video issues and it went easier than any dist ever did b4 :P05:55
Ishmaeli'll find it, it shows how ubuntu and a few add-ons blows windows vista out of the water05:55
Sw3RvEi just would like to know how to make terminal transparent like that. is it something already on xubuntu or do i have to install something?05:55
VisuaWarek3b failed :/  qq05:56
Sw3RvEishmael ive seen screenshots of ubuntu that look like vista05:56
Sw3RvEi have a dock on mine that looks like mac05:56
Ishmaelsudo k3b?05:56
VisuaWarevista is ghey as hell.. u wanna buy my vista 64 pro or ultimate i forgot wich lol05:56
Sw3RvEvista blows05:56
Sw3RvEthey make you use more ram and a faster cpu so you have to buy new hardware05:57
VisuaWarei paid for that shit.. and never used it for more than a weekend.. and it went OUT05:57
Sw3RvEWindows 7 is going to be the same way unless they make some major improvements on that beta.05:57
Ishmaelthis should be the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ05:57
Sw3RvEmy laptop that im using now came with vista. i took it off bc it took like 2-3 mins to boot and idle.05:58
Ishmaelwindows 7 is just a picture of hitler, it's been confirmed05:58
Sw3RvEgood song lol05:59
Sw3RvEso is this guy going to keep opening things until it freezes or what05:59
Ishmael1:35 when he goes to linux05:59
Ishmaelhe's showing vista's graphic features maxed out, vs linux05:59
Sw3RvEdude06:00
Ishmaelyou will shit brix06:00
Sw3RvEwhat is that making it like fireworks exploding06:00
Sw3RvEthat was awesome06:00
Ishmaelthere's a list of what he has installed somewhere, it might just be on the end of the video06:00
VisuaWareIshmael trying sudo insted of the add/rem way.. will see if works there06:00
IshmaelVisuaWare, i think i installed it with "sudo apt-get install k3b"06:01
VisuaWareim doing that now06:01
Ishmaelif that doesn't work, i'm very confused06:01
Sw3RvEdamn my dock cant do that nunchuck thing lol06:01
VisuaWareworked like a charm :P06:01
IshmaelSw3RvE, didn't see the list on that video, but there IS a list somewhere, google/youtube has it somewhere06:02
Sw3RvEi need a job so i can build my new pc.06:02
Sw3RvElmfao i love the end of the video06:02
IshmaelVisuaWare, awesome, and if you haven't heard of devede, you should get that as well06:02
Sw3RvEis it called Beryl06:03
IshmaelVisuaWare, well, if you author your own dvd's from...other sources06:03
IshmaelSw3RvE, that's it? kk, i thought he had certain packs installed, i'm not familiar with beryl, my system can't handle that06:03
VisuaWareish, will look at it, tho i just need backup old chit now that i throw out windows lol06:04
Sw3RvEidk i saw a thumbnail for a video and it has a window on fire06:05
Sw3RvEso im sure thats one of the apps he had.06:05
IshmaelVisuaWare, i had to run k3b as root; "sudo k3b" from command line to burn; but apparently there is a safer way to do it, i think it involves changing the permissions of the drive06:05
Sw3RvEim still trying to figure out how to change my icons lol06:05
VisuaWarepossibly any 3ddemo scene geeks in here who know if any such avalible with some kick a-ss chit.. as in dotprodukt and such :P im sure they made some for opengl too on linux.. cant all be DirectX jerks06:06
VisuaWareya i wanna see how smooth the chit runs on linux :P when windows aint hogging all the juice lol06:08
Ishmaelgood luck with that06:08
MyrttiVisuaWare: mind your language, please.06:11
Sw3RvEhey myrtti06:12
Sw3RvEIshmael: Do i have to install something to make my terminal transparent?06:16
Ishmaeli don't know anything about that, sorry06:17
Ishmaelbut let me look around a bit06:17
Sw3RvEalright06:17
Ishmaelhttp://www.xfce.org/xfwm4-theme-howto/06:20
Sw3RvEoh so is this for any window or is it for terminal only?06:21
Sw3RvEit looks like a theme for every window06:23
Sw3RvEright?06:23
Ishmaelfrom the picture you put up, looks like every window06:24
Sw3RvEi thought that was the compositor window manager tweaks. i cant get the terminal to look like that tho...06:25
Sw3RvEright now, i have the boarders or decorations transparent and the inactive windows are transparent as well.06:25
Ishmaelhave you tried asking in #ubuntu ? looks like i'm the only other active person here, and i'm still new to xubuntu06:25
Sw3RvEsame here ive had it for about 4 days lol06:26
Ishmaeland i'm running it on an old rack-mounted server :D it's not exactly geared towards looking pretty06:27
Sw3RvElol06:27
Sw3RvEim running mine on my laptop06:27
Sw3RvEi like xubuntu better than XP06:28
Ishmaelwhat kind o' laptop? and what wireless chipset do you have?06:28
Sw3RvEi forgot. id have to get on XP to check. i have a dell inspiron 150106:28
Sw3RvEi havnt used wireless yet. i dont even know how to use it on ubuntu.06:29
Sw3RvEi installed Wi-Fi Radar the other day tho. im going to get my teacher to set it up saturday in class.06:29
Ishmaeli think it's broadcom, according to google06:29
wormsxulla_Sw3RvE: the network-manager manages wifi06:29
Sw3RvEyea thats it06:29
Sw3RvEworms if your talking about the icon by the clock that thing sucks. i need a GUI... lol06:30
Sw3RvEit wanted the SSID and MAC address of the access point... like im going to know that every time im trying to get online.06:30
Ishmaelthere are lists online, so if you want a specific chipset you can price check the different models against each other06:31
Sw3RvEprice check?06:31
Ishmaelkismet06:31
Ishmaelif you were to want to buy one06:31
Ishmaeli had a removable atheros chipset card06:31
Sw3RvEbuy what...06:31
Sw3RvEoh06:31
Ishmaelthen you can script-hack WEP! :D  it makes me feel like a man06:32
Sw3RvEmy wireless works. i just havnt used it on ubuntu or xubuntu yet.06:32
Sw3RvEyou can get passed wep with linux? a guy my old job told me that but i thought he was messing with me.06:32
Myrttitranparency can be done with pseudo transparency or with real transparency. latter requires compositor to be put on. it can be put on from applications - settings - settings manager - window manager tweaks - compositor.06:34
Sw3RvEi think that the terminal in the picture im looking at is an inactive window. i just noticed the right click menu on the desktop...06:35
Sw3RvEi have transparency on right now Myrtti. i just thought there was a way to make Terminal transparent when it is active.06:36
Myrttiyeah, it is possible. enabling that compositor is the way, given that the transparency is on in the terminal it self.06:37
Sw3RvEwhich setting do i adjust to make an Active window transparent tho? or do i have to enable transparency on terminal now?06:38
Myrttigraah, train leaves soon, catch you later06:40
Sw3RvEc ya06:40
IshmaelSw3RvE, look up backtrack for the wep cracking, their program combo is aircrack if i remember correctly06:41
Ishmaelwow, trains?06:41
Sw3RvEchoo choo06:41
Sw3RvEIshmael is backtrack an OS?06:43
Sw3RvEor like a live cd?06:46
Ishmaellive cd06:47
Ishmaelwell06:47
Ishmaeli think whax is the os06:47
R1cochetrunning brasero in terminal and im getting "segmentation fault" just creating chksum is about to finish06:47
Ishmaelbut since you already have linux, the program list is what you need06:48
Sw3RvEgood, thats more convenient :)06:48
R1cochethow can i fix to issue to burn data to a dvd06:49
R1cochettthe*06:49
volohi07:01
Sw3RvEhow do i delete the Trash, File System, and Home icons from my desktop?08:17
VisuaWareright click the desktop,  Desktop Settings,  and on the behavior tab u can disable them08:34
Sw3RvEthank you :) that was easy08:34
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Darth_Tuxhi sinbox11:28
sinboxhi Darth_Tux11:28
Darth_Tuxhows it goin?11:28
sinboxOKish11:28
Darth_Tuxyeah, that kinds sums it up11:29
volohi13:18
Tengeni am giving away my old laptop with a linux/windows dual boot. I need to make Windows the defualt OS in grub. How do i do that? Also the CD drive is broken, so disks are not an option13:59
Tengeni am giving away my old laptop with a linux/windows dual boot. I need to make Windows the defualt OS in grub. How do i do that? Also the CD drive is broken, so disks are not an option14:14
knomeTengen, you should edit /boot/grub/menu.lst14:14
Tengenwhich part do i edit?14:16
knomeTengen, open the dile and read the comments on it.14:23
pleia2Tengen: at the top there should be a line that says something like "default 0", you want to change 0 to whatever number in the list Windows is14:23
Tengeni don't see what number it is14:25
knomeTengen, first enrty is 0, second is 1 etc.14:27
Tengenahh, oke14:27
Tengentrying now14:27
Tengenit says "Can't open file to write"  when i try to save in mousepad14:28
knomeTengen, 'gksudo mousepad'14:29
knomeTengen, (you need to be root to edit it)14:29
Tengenthx14:30
Tengenhow do i make the menu hidden by default?14:31
Tengeni see the line for it, but i don't know what to do with it14:31
Tengenrebooting14:32
Tengenok, almost had it, i went to "other operating systems" need to add 114:34
Tengenok, is there any way to format the linux partitions to NTFS with out using a boot disk?14:41
knomeTengen, with windows booted, you should be able to remove the partitions, but unneeded to say, you'll lose the data anyway.14:41
knomeTengen, after that you will be able to create new partitions with ntfs14:42
Tengenwell widnwos doesn't see the partitions14:42
Tengenwindows*14:42
Raybdbombupdate-apt-xapian-index16:04
Raybdbombwhat the crap is this and why is it running and clogging my system16:04
Pres-GasRaybdbomb, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/apt-xapian-index16:18
Pres-GasRaybdbomb, http://archive.fosdem.org/2008/schedule/events/debian_apt_xapian_index16:18
Pres-GasThere is a Media link that is Ogg Theora16:18
Pres-GasPart of Ubuntu Core16:20
naplesdragonhello everyone16:21
Pres-GasHey, naplesdragon16:21
chewithello16:21
naplesdragoni have read on the xubuntu website that here you do offer help16:22
Pres-Gas!question16:22
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:22
geniiRaybdbomb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062688   may work for you.16:22
naplesdragonhow do i get an ATi Radeon 9200SE to work?16:22
naplesdragonwith 8.10?16:23
Pres-Gas!ati16:23
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:23
chewityou could use two methods16:23
chewityou could use restricted drivers or use the opensource ones16:24
naplesdragonwell i wanted to install xubuntu to create a homeserver but after the bootloader it is all black16:25
chewitdo u get the xubuntu splash screen16:26
chewitloading bar16:26
naplesdragonwell the instalation worked but after the instalation my monitor gives me "current Frequencys not supported" after the bootmanager16:27
naplesdragonno loadingbar16:27
Raybdbombthx thx, it went away on its own ;)16:30
naplesdragonand i am really a newbie with linux i run it on my laptop and it worked out of the box16:32
chewitah16:34
chewitu have the same issue as me16:34
chewitthe resoultion set by xubuntu is too high for ur monitor to manage16:34
chewitit happens me every  time I reinstall xubuntu16:35
chewitso much for a bullet proof xorg16:35
naplesdragonno the problem isn'T on the laptop16:35
naplesdragoni am installing on a new system16:35
chewityeh16:35
chewiti know, thats what ur message means16:35
naplesdragonwell so how do i solve that?16:36
naplesdragonsry when i am annoying16:36
chewitits hard for linux newbies, i find it hard (i have been using linux for over a year)16:36
chewitwhen you get passed the bootloader16:37
chewitand u get that message press16:37
chewitctrl + alt + f216:37
knome!dvd17:14
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:14
naplesdragonthx chewit for helping me with the ATi problem17:15
bedmundsJust installed Xubuntu on my old Dell Dimension Box, Impressed with how well it runs...........I want to upgrade the video card though. Old ATI X300 ==No Compiz Eye Candy.17:15
chewitu can get compiz on that card17:17
naplesdragoncan anyone help me to set up a homeserver17:17
bedmundsreally? I installed the drivers with Envy, set dual monitors, everything was running sweet.........installed compiz and no go, i just assumed I was using an outdated card.17:18
bedmundsnaplesdragon, what's your issue with your homeserver?17:18
slow-motionhi17:19
bedmundshi17:19
chewitu may not have 3d enabled17:19
chewitrun glxinfo in termina;17:20
bedmundsjust the command "glxinfo"?17:21
naplesdragondoes anyone know how to set up a network with xubuntu 8.1017:22
chewityeh17:22
zoredachenaplesdragon: what do you mean when you say network?  filesharing, connection sharing, dhcp, ......17:23
chewitthen look for an output line which says direct rendering17:23
bedmundslook for yes or no, and then if it says no enable it correct?17:24
chewitit needs to say yes17:25
chewitif it says no, u do not have 3d support17:25
bedmunds3d support on that card or it means I don't have 3d support enabled?17:27
chewitYes = 3D enabled17:27
chewitNo = 3D not enabled17:27
bedmundshehe..........thanks. I'm on my work laptop now (Ubuntu 8.10 64bit), but I will definitely give that a try tonight!17:28
chewitk17:28
chewitif it says no, u will have reinstall the drivers17:28
naplesdragonwhere u from? US?17:28
chewitmaybe use restricted drivers17:28
bedmundsokay, thanks a lot for the advice17:29
chewitnp17:29
bedmundsnaplesdragon, yes I'm from the US (Denver)17:29
naplesdragonwell thats y ur saying tonight17:30
naplesdragoncoz i am here in Europe(naples)17:30
bedmundshehe, yep...it's 10:30 am here.17:32
naplesdragon6:30 PM17:32
naplesdragonor 18:30 in europe17:32
zoredache!ics17:49
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php17:49
naplesdragonthx17:49
naplesdragonzoredache17:49
naplesdragoni'll try it17:53
bedmundsnaples, how did pm earlier? (new to IRC)....MSG <NICK> <Message>?18:07
naplesdragonwell i dunno18:08
naplesdragoni am using xChat18:08
naplesdragonjust rightclick on name and put private mail18:09
naplesdragonlike new window18:09
bedmundsQUERY naplesdragon18:10
bedmundsohh18:11
bedmundscool18:11
bedmundsyeah, i'm using xchat18:11
bakerjhow bloated is xubuntu when i install it from the CD?18:19
bakerjie. is there like open-office a billion other apps18:20
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knomehow can i check a dvd for i/o errors without having to watch it from beginning to end?18:21
knomebakerj, not much.18:22
bedmundsbakerj, I found it to be light....I don't know if Open Office is even on there at all. Even the menus are condensed (this is a big plus for me), The Systems/application menu are consolidated.18:27
tempuserHi! I installed xubuntu 8.10 using desktop CD. I use old /home partition from Xubuntu 7.10. I had two user accounts there. I made the user account created in installation by same name as it was in old system, and imported both accounts when asked by the installation program. Still, I can't log in to the second account and it is not visible in the users and groups dialog. The respective directory is still there under /home. How can you 18:40
gabkdllybakerj: open-office is not included18:40
gabkdllybakerj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xubuntu-desktop18:40
gabkdllybakerj: that is an exhaustive list of what is included18:40
gabkdllyknome: I guess you could cat the entire DVD to /dev/null18:41
bakerjthanks18:41
gabkdllytempuser: what happens when you try to log in?18:43
tempusergabkdlly: I just installed xubuntu 8.10 (in Finnish language) using the desktop CD and after installation I have openoffice installed.18:43
tempusergabkdlly: It says my password is wrong or something like that.18:44
tempusergabkdlly: But I can't reset the password since the account is not visible in the dialog.18:44
gabkdllytempuser: there is a graphical tool to manage accounts18:45
gabkdllytempuser: I have never "imported" accounts myself, so I don't know how that works18:45
gabkdllytempuser: as an administrator, you are able to reset the passwords of other accounts18:46
gabkdllytempuser: Applications -> System -> Users and Groups18:48
tempusergabkdlly: Yes, I tried that, but the account is not visible in the tool.18:50
gabkdllytempuser: I suggest you create the user you want, and then chmod the folder you already have to that user18:51
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bedmundstempuser, did the account show up in the passwd file? (cat /etc/passwd)19:00
bedmundsNICK brandonban619:01
bedmundshmm19:01
tempusergabkdlly: Why chmod? I think I'll have to rename the old directory temporarily.19:03
bedmundstempuser, give the same group permissions, you shouldn't have to rename at all.19:05
gabkdllytempuser: sorry, I meant chown19:05
ranokHello, where might I find the minimum system reqs for Xubuntu?19:12
ranok(version 8.10)19:12
ranokI have a computer that I'm putting together19:12
ranokand I want to make sure there's plenty of memory/CPU left for applications w/o a major slowdown19:12
bedmundsMinimum system requirements19:13
bedmundsYou need 128 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM at install time. To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk. Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 192 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM.19:13
bedmundssource: http://www.xubuntu.org/get19:13
ranokah, thank you very much bedmunds19:13
bedmundsnp19:14
ranokthis is nice and lightweight19:14
ranokno bloated GNOME19:14
bedmundsfor what its worth.........I just installed it on my old Dell Dimension 8400 and find it to be a screaming OS.........very fast. I love it.19:15
ranokah, very good to hear19:15
ranokI want the OS to fade into the BG, leaving plenty of speed for my apps19:15
gabkdllyranok: I have actually installed Xubuntu on a machine with 128MB of RAM, but it was pretty  much unusable whenever the database update was running in the background, since it would swap non-stop at those times19:16
ranokah, ok19:17
ranokmy computer should be fine, I just wanted to get a feel for how much resources it'll use up19:17
naplesdragonmine runs on 256MB ram19:17
ranokI'm going to install it on my new Core i7 machine with 6GB of DDR3 ram19:18
bedmundsyeah, my dell has a p4, 512 mb of RAM.19:18
bedmundsare you using the 64bit distro then?19:18
ranokyes19:18
ranokas long as it'll work with my GFX card19:19
naplesdragonwell i installed for a friend ubuntu 8gb ram 64bit an P219:19
naplesdragonand it runs perfekt19:19
ranokP2?19:20
bedmundsSweet! I read somewhere that Xubuntu was the Xfce distro with 64bit support.19:20
bedmundsonly*19:20
naplesdragonPhenom 219:20
ranokyeah, I'm excited19:21
zoredachedebian supports 64bit, and has xfce available in the repositories.19:21
ranokit's going to be a very speedy machine I hope19:21
bedmundsright, so it's not native....as xubuntu.19:21
zoredachebedmunds: if you say so...  xfce, kde, gnome, are all options that can be installed.  With lenny, one of the installer cd comes with primarily xfce packages19:24
ranoknative is not a very good word for that19:28
bedmundsthanks zoredache, ranok you provoked my curiosity and went searching for where I read that, what it actually states "Additionally, Xubuntu is the only Xfce-based distribution with a native 64-bit architecture.", which is not what originally said above, so please allow me to retract my previous statement and I apologize for any confusion.19:34
bedmundssource: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/About19:34
bedmundsHey it's wiki that means 100% correct right?!?!? :P19:34
zoredachewell, I think it was correct when it was last edited on 2008-8-6... But when lenny became stable a week ago, things changed19:36
bedmunds:) Someday I'll branch out to other distros.......but baby steps, I just left windows.19:37
charlie-tcazoredache: fixed that part19:45
ranokbedmunds: :)19:46
rockohello charlie-tca how are you?19:47
zoredachecharlie-tca: perhaps it should say '... was the first Xfce-based'?19:49
zoredachecharlie-tca: I doubt it makes that much of a difference though...19:49
charlie-tcarocko: doing fine.19:50
rockogood19:50
charlie-tcazoredache: I'll think about it a bit. At least it is accurate now19:50
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* charlie-tca has issues with inaccuracies19:50
sowdoggyhi all, what package delivers python library pnkdf220:01
sowdoggypbkdf2 i mean20:01
zoredachenothing is showing up in search with apt-cache...   Their might not be a package20:02
sowdoggyhmm, thats too bad, I'm trying to use cnetworkmanager20:03
zoredachesowdoggy: if you are looking at (http://www.dlitz.net/software/python-pbkdf2/) the entire 'library' is a single file.  You should be able to simply download it and put it in somewhere that is in your pythonpath20:04
sowdoggyzoredache, ah thanks, ill give it a shot20:05
zoredacheit will probably belong in /usr/lib/python2.5/20:06
bedmundswow charlie-tca , thats a way to get things done!20:06
zoredachesowdoggy: There does seem to be a copy of pbkdf2.py is in cnetworkmanager git tree20:08
sowdoggyzoredache, git tree?20:09
zoredachesowdoggy: git is a version control system.  this http://repo.or.cz/w/cnetworkmanager.git?a=tree appears to be the 'official' location for cnetworkmanager20:10
zoredachesomebody should package this.  it looks useful...20:12
zoredacheabout 8 months ago I was looking for something like this, except it didn't exist then.20:13
sowdoggyzoredache, spot on! the pbkdf2 works, thanks zoredache20:14
xikkubis there a taskkill terminal command in debian\xubuntu?20:34
TheSheepxikkub: what would it do?20:35
xikkubend tasks20:35
xikkubso i can end firefox20:35
TheSheepkill20:35
TheSheepand they are called processes20:35
xikkubhow can i see the processes20:36
xikkublike get the pis20:36
xikkubpids20:36
TheSheepps20:36
knomeps -A20:36
TheSheepps x20:36
TheSheep:)20:36
TheSheepxikkub: you can also use gui-based System Monitor, it's under System20:36
xikkubi prefer terminal, thank you very much though20:37
xikkubi killed rick astley20:37
TheSheeprickrolls are annoying20:37
TheSheepyou can also use top20:38
TheSheepfor gui in terminal :)20:38
knomehtop > top20:38
TheSheepknome: pfft20:38
TheSheepxikkub: don't listen to him, he's been brainwashed by the marketing department ;)20:39
xikkublol k20:39
xikkubthanks guys20:39
TheSheepactually he *is* our marketing department ;)20:39
knomehe left.20:39
* charlie-tca thinks marketing could use a few more *good* people20:43
xikkubhola senoras21:19
zoredacheare mouse pointers part of an application, part of the desktop enviroment, or part of xorg?  Specifically, how can I control the mouse pointer in something like xfce4-terminal?21:26
Dillizarhow can i make a altered version of xubuntu and then make a live cd from it??21:41
knome!custom21:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about custom21:49
knomehmm..21:49
knome!remaster | Dillizar21:50
ubottuDillizar: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility21:50
Dillizarknome, thats a lot dude :D hahaha a Lcars linux its on his way :D22:00
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Sw3RvEi need help updating Transmission22:23
knome!update22:25
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes22:25
knome!source22:25
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html22:25
knome!building22:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about building22:25
Sw3RvEhttp://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=560422:34
Sw3RvEcan someone walk me through this? i dont know which parts i need and which i dont.22:34
Sw3RvEguys in the transmission channel arent much help besides the link. lol22:35
LordNLptphow do i get to any sort of network/wireless configuration dialog in xubuntu, or does such a thing not exist?22:37
LordNLptpi need to temporarily switch everything to dhcp after a local network gateway machine failed22:37
charlie-tcaclick the double computer in the panel22:38
R1cochetwhen i go to play a video i get a popup that says: "Failed to contact configuration server"22:51
R1cochetand when i try to open synaptic when it asks for password i type it in but it says that its incorrect22:52
charlie-tcaThe synaptic password should be your login password, but if you have more than one user, you have to have admin rights, too22:54
R1cochetits only me and it was working up till last night22:54
R1cocheti did clear my /tmp folder22:54
brandonban6R1cochet, .........this may sound like an odd question, but are you running likewise open by chance?22:55
R1cochetnope22:55
brandonban6ah good. and you can log in and off okay?22:56
R1cochetnot sure i havent tried yet23:00
brandonban6weird. Do you have any broken packages? Anything that didn't install right or got hung up in the install?23:03
R1cochetnot that im aware of23:03
R1cochetill try to log in and out23:05
R1cochetbrb23:05
brandonban6k23:05
R1cochetall seems well now23:07
R1cochetthank you23:08
R1cocheti just didnt want to log out and not be able to get back in. synaptic will open now so root password is working23:08
brandonban6sorry i disconnected myself, what happened?23:09
brandonban6so synaptic works, now you just can't play a video?23:10
R1cochetnope video is working also23:10
R1cocheti was getting an error when i would play a video, something about gconf, but the video would play.23:11
R1cochetbut all seems well now23:11
R1cochetthank you much23:11

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