[00:00] <Xikkub> its probably bad if your mouse and keyboard freeze also
[00:00] <Foxkeh> We usually can't get our fingers out quick enough so it usually reboot.(It takes about two minutes to finally shut down.)
[00:00] <Xikkub> ah
[00:00] <Foxkeh> Might it have something to do with the wireless part?
[00:00] <Foxkeh> So, is an "Ms DOS console" a terminal?
[00:00] <Xikkub> i wouldnt expect the wireless to interfere with your mouse/ keyboard i/o
[00:00] <zoredache> Foxkeh: not exactly, but it is pretty close
[00:01] <Foxkeh> So, what is it?
[00:01] <Xikkub> well terminal is the msdos prompt equivalent in linux
[00:01] <Foxkeh> I knew that, I only refer to a command prompt as a terminal.
[00:01] <Foxkeh> So it's a command prompt?
[00:02] <Xikkub> yeah
[00:02] <Foxkeh> So how do I figure out if I'm using an NTFS file system?
[00:02] <Foxkeh> Ok.
[00:03] <charlie-tca> so the alt+sysRq doesn't work for you at all?
[00:03] <Foxkeh> Nope. Never. I think Alienkid once said he got it to work, but only once and I wasn't awake, I think.
[00:03] <charlie-tca> What version of windows do you have?
[00:03] <Foxkeh> XP.
[00:03] <Foxkeh> home.
[00:03] <charlie-tca> That is NTFS
[00:03] <Foxkeh> Darn.
[00:03] <zoredache> Foxkeh: I asked you a about 10 minutes ago to run the command 'mount' and post the output
[00:04] <Foxkeh> You did?
[00:04] <Foxkeh> Didn't see it.
[00:04] <Xikkub> why should ntfs make a difference. ubuntu is ntfs-friendly
[00:04] <zoredache> mount will tell you exactly what, is what filesystem... you could also look at your /etc/fstab
[00:05] <Foxkeh> Xikkub, 'cause if it wasn't I could fsck in Linux.
[00:06] <Foxkeh> So just open a terminal and type mount?
[00:06] <Xikkub> you could use ntfs-progs
[00:06] <Xikkub> ya
[00:06] <zoredache> or mount | pastebinit
[00:06] <zoredache> then provide us with the url
[00:08] <Foxkeh> How do I do "Mount | pastbinit"? I did the command "Mount pastebinit" not knowing if I should include "|" in it.
[00:08] <Xikkub> i feel like im on excstacy for some reason
[00:08] <zoredache> yes, you need the | character.  The | character is a way of telling mount to send all of its output to the command after the |
[00:08] <durt> Xikkub: your coming down with a cold.
[00:09] <Xikkub> omg why?
[00:09] <zoredache> in this case I want it to go to pastebinit, because that will allow you easily share the results with everyone
[00:10] <durt> zoredache: is pastebinit installed by default? that is a seriously kick a$$ app. (If I it does what I think it does.)
[00:10] <zoredache> if you get an error, about pastbinit not being found then run 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[00:11] <zoredache> durt: I forget it if is installed.  it is easy to install see my previous message
[00:11] <durt> :) micro-seconds apart
[00:12] <kyoobeh> hello
[00:12] <zoredache> !hi | kyoobeh
[00:13] <kyoobeh> pretty excited about getting xubuntu on this old laptop
[00:13] <durt> lol, someone needs to add a little more to that factoid
[00:13] <knome> durt, why?
[00:14] <durt> that's the shortest bot response evar
[00:14] <kyoobeh> heh
[00:14] <Xikkub> finally i got emacs wrkin
[00:14] <Xikkub> i luv emacs
[00:15] <kyoobeh> xubuntu just got done installing on this old laptop, but whenever i go to try to load it, the loading bar and Xubuntu screen shows up, but soons it loads the screen just goes blank
[00:15] <durt> vi for evar!!
[00:15] <Xikkub> lol vi omg
[00:15] <Xikkub> i cant stand it
[00:15] <durt> !offtopic | durt
[00:16] <zoredache> kyoobeh: have you tried booting into safe mode?
[00:16] <kyoobeh> i have, and everything says [ OK ]
[00:17] <kyoobeh> from what i can tell, anyways..
[00:17] <kyoobeh> i'm doing a memory test right now
[00:17] <durt> kyoobeh: ctrl-alt-F8 to follow the boot process.
[00:17] <Xikkub> man i wish i had a better laptop
[00:17] <zoredache> kyoobeh: how much memory do you have?
[00:17] <kyoobeh> its showing on the screen right now
[00:17] <kyoobeh> Memor: 120M
[00:18] <kyoobeh> i'm guessing that this isn't enough :P
[00:18] <durt> ouch
[00:18] <knome> kyoobeh, too little.
[00:18] <durt> cpu?
[00:18] <Xikkub> it should be enough
[00:18] <kyoobeh> 800.1 MHz
[00:18] <Xikkub> its below recommended but its above the minimum
[00:18] <Xikkub> ahhh
[00:18] <knome> kyoobeh, 192 is the *min* for *running* xubuntu.
[00:18] <kyoobeh> lol, this is an ooooold laptop
[00:18] <kyoobeh> ahh, i see..
[00:18] <Xikkub> oh apparently the article i got is outdated
[00:19] <knome> Xikkub, can you link me into it?
[00:19] <zoredache> !lowmem | kyoobeh
[00:19] <kyoobeh> oooh, thank you zoredache
[00:19] <Xikkub> oh i cant remember where it is
[00:19] <zoredache> hrm... the urls are broke...
[00:19] <durt> kyoobeh: google U-lite for an unsupported ubuntu derived install that might work better on 128 meg
[00:19] <Xikkub> i probably saw it years ago and didnt bother to look it up again
[00:21] <zoredache> zoredache: the urls aren't broke, you just aren't suppose to include the trailing period
[00:21] <durt> doh!
[00:21] <kyoobeh> V-Lite eh
[00:21] <Foxkeh> Well, nevermind, according to Charlie I've got NTFS and when I go to the bathroom obviously too much pops up, I'm just gonna trust Charlie on this.
[00:21] <durt> U-lite
[00:21] <Foxkeh> Thanks.
[00:21] <kyoobeh> U
[00:21] <kyoobeh> (just installed mIRC)
[00:22] <kyoobeh> its that UGLY ass text that they use as default...
[00:22] <durt> on linux ?!?
[00:22] <Xikkub> any c programmers know if system("pause") can send commands to ubuntu terminal
[00:22] <Xikkub> i like icechat
[00:22] <Xikkub> its cleaners and freer
[00:22] <kyoobeh> no no no, i'm on my desktop right now... booted into XP as we speak..
[00:22] <zoredache> what do you mean send commands to the terminal?  'pause' isn't a command btw
[00:22] <kyoobeh> blasphemy, i'm sorry ;[
[00:23] <durt> I wish there was a linux port of mIRC
[00:23] <sowdog> durt: why?
[00:24] <Xikkub> u could always make an irc client
[00:24] <durt> I remeber it as a really decent app
[00:24] <zoredache> if you are asking if you can use the internal commands from a shell you could do system("bash -c \"internalcmd\" ") or something to that effect
[00:24] <Xikkub> ok ty
[00:24] <kyoobeh> durt, do you know of any u-lite torrents?
[00:24] <Xikkub> yeah wasnt shure if it needed to use winapi or not
[00:25] <sowdog> hi all, got a question. I tried setting up my wireless with iwconfig, but i'd always fail setting the keys and some googling , i think its the RTL8187 driver. Anyhow, why does it work with xubuntu's nw-applet?
[00:25] <charlie-tca> Foxkeh: don't trust, find out for certain
[00:25] <Xikkub> is that the TEW-424UB?
[00:25] <durt> kyoobeh: no, sorry. But you should read up on it before you decide to use it.
[00:25] <Xikkub> sowdog: is that the TEW-424UB?
[00:25] <kyoobeh> ok
[00:25] <durt> kyoobeh: very specific install instructions
[00:26] <kyoobeh> yeah, was looking them over just now
[00:26] <sowdog> Xikkub, I've no idea what is the TEW-424UB
[00:26] <Xikkub> the driver
[00:26] <Xikkub> what is the network card you are using
[00:26] <kyoobeh> won't be able to get xubuntu to run on this laptop, it seems
[00:26] <kyoobeh> so i'll just have to look at other options
[00:26] <Xikkub> sowdog: what is the network card you are using
[00:26] <zoredache> kyoobeh: I suspect I would look at something like DSL
[00:27] <Xikkub> sowdog ill pm you
[00:27] <Jaredster> hello. I was wondering if someone could help me with my resolution problem. Here is the thread I just made for it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6764890#post6764890
[00:27] <sowdog> Xikkub, it's a wireless USB card. I think the drivers are RTL8187
[00:27] <kyoobeh> zoredache: I'll google it
[00:27] <Foxkeh> Ok, Charlie, so what do I look for in "Mount"
[00:27] <Foxkeh> ?
[00:28] <durt> kyoobeh: I'm using it on a PII 96meg old toshy satelite, aside from a gecko (mozilla) based browser that eats mem like pacman. It's fairly mem/cpu footprint light.
[00:28] <durt> kyoobeh: DSL is good also puppy linux
[00:30] <kyoobeh> DSL seems pretty cool, I wish i didn't use my last CD-r just now lol
[00:30] <Mood> anyone use joomla here?
[00:30] <Mood> just curious
[00:30] <Jaredster> when you guys arent busy can someone please tell me how to change the login screen resolution
[00:31] <Jaredster> I tried editing the xorg.conf, but the file is blank.
[00:31] <Mood> Jaredster: just the login screen?
[00:31] <Mood> Jaredster: that's kind of strange
[00:31] <Jaredster> well, the login screen stays at 1280x1024, which isnt compatible with my tv
[00:32] <Jaredster> but the xfce I was able to change to 1024x768
[00:32] <Jaredster> want me to open an ssh?
[00:32]  * Mood goes Huh?
[00:32] <Foxkeh> join #wings3d
[00:32] <durt> Jaredster: not sure if GDM uses xorg.conf, but xorg now autoconfigures itself, and then parses xorg.conf for customized settings
[00:32] <Foxkeh> How do you join an irc?
[00:32] <Mood> Foxkeh: type /join
[00:32] <Jaredster> Foxkeh, /j wings3d
[00:33] <Jaredster> or /join
[00:33] <Foxkeh> Ok.
[00:33] <charlie-tca> Foxkeh: look for a line line /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[00:33] <Jaredster> its weird though, I cant change the login screen resolution
[00:33] <charlie-tca> where it says ext3, what have you got?
[00:33] <Jaredster> durt, how would I reconfigure it then?
[00:33] <Jaredster> so it can only do 1024x768
[00:33] <kyoobeh> am i going to want to download dsl-4.4.10.iso ?
[00:34] <kyoobeh> to burn it to a CD
[00:34] <durt> Jaredster: get an old template of xorg.conf and edit it.
[00:34] <kyoobeh> or dsl-4.4.10-initrd.iso ?
[00:34] <kyoobeh> probably just the standard one...
[00:34] <Jaredster> can I use any template?
[00:34] <Foxkeh> Charlie-tca: Ok. I'll show you what it says.
[00:34] <zoredache> kyoobeh: the initrd will need more memory
[00:35] <charlie-tca> copy and paste it to pastebin
[00:35] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[00:35] <durt> Jaredster: hold on a sec lemme check /usr/share/docs...
[00:35] <Jaredster> ok thanks
[00:35] <kyoobeh> ok, thanks Zoredache
[00:36] <kyoobeh> this distro looks to be helpful
[00:36] <Foxkeh> charlie-tca: This is the first "ext3" I found. "/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)"
[00:37] <kyoobeh> I'll be back, gonna go buy some CD-r's
[00:37] <charlie-tca> you have other types in there
[00:37] <kyoobeh> then i'm going to try out DSL :P
[00:38] <Foxkeh> ?
[00:38] <charlie-tca> Foxkeh: can you copy and paste that whole thing to pastebin?
[00:38] <Xikkub> damn small linux
[00:38] <Xikkub> anybody a c\c++ programmer here?
[00:38] <durt> Jaredster: doesn't semm to be there, google xorg.conf + your lappy/or your video card to find one.
[00:39] <Foxkeh> charlie-tca: "/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[00:39] <Jaredster> ok
[00:39] <Foxkeh> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> /dev/sda2 on /host type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=755)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[00:39] <Foxkeh> "
[00:39] <Xikkub> ahhh
[00:39] <Xikkub> >.<
[00:40] <knome> !pastebin | Foxkeh
[00:40] <Foxkeh> Oh. didn't know that.
[00:40] <zoredache> Foxkeh: which filesystem is it complaining about?
[00:41] <zoredache> you should be able to run fsck -y /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk when you are booted into safe mode
[00:42] <Xikkub> anybody experimented with backtrack at all
[00:42] <Foxkeh> So now do I have to give the link to the pastebin url?
[00:42] <Sw3RvE> im having an issue with my theme and firefox. when i use the Xfce-dusk theme i cant see the website addres in the address bar on firefox.
[00:43] <Foxkeh> Does it happen if you close and reopen Firefox?
[00:43] <Sw3RvE> yea its white on white
[00:44] <Sw3RvE> so i cant read it unless i highlight it
[00:44] <Foxkeh> That usually fixes my search bar and address bar when they stop working.
[00:44] <Foxkeh> Go into "Edit>Prefferences" and see if something's in there on it.
[00:44] <Sw3RvE> its working... its not that. its a color issue.
[00:44] <Sw3RvE> i did i tried changing colors
[00:44] <Sw3RvE> it doesnt work on that part of firefox tho
[00:45] <Foxkeh> Huh?
[00:45] <Foxkeh> What do you mean" Didn't work on that part of firefox"?
[00:46] <Sw3RvE> it doesnt affect the address bar when i change the font color or background color.
[00:46] <Xikkub> sudo apt-get install firefox XD
[00:46] <alienkid> so guys ho
[00:46] <alienkid> w'd his proplem go(Foxkeh's)
[00:46] <Xikkub> his comp apparently cant handle it
[00:47] <Sw3RvE> what?
[00:47] <alienkid> can't handle what? So what we gonna do?
[00:47] <knome> Foxkeh, alienkid: maybe ask #ubuntu because nobody seems to be able to help here
[00:47] <Foxkeh> So, how's pastebin work?
[00:48] <charlie-tca> You go to the URL given, paste your information there, then give us the URL it tells you
[00:48] <Foxkeh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/120375/
[00:48] <alienkid> I told him
[00:48] <alienkid> I'll go cheek #ubuntu
[00:49] <charlie-tca> Then you do what zoredache said;
 you should be able to run fsck -y /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk when you are booted into safe mode
[00:49] <Foxkeh> Ok.
[00:49] <Foxkeh> But what, Windows safe mode?
[00:51] <charlie-tca> no, you need to do it in linux. From the boot from ubuntu menu, after it starts, hit ESC and then choose recovery mode
[00:51] <Foxkeh> Oh. But you can't tpye in terminal there, can you? It's got an "fsck" option.
[00:51] <alienkid> then what root terminal?
[00:51] <Foxkeh> But you can't type.
[00:52] <charlie-tca> Yes, root
[00:52] <Foxkeh> Ok, I'll leave my brother to do that when it happens.
[00:52] <charlie-tca> What has an "fsck" option?
[00:52] <Foxkeh> He's the nerd, afterall.
[00:52] <Foxkeh> In recovery the little gui thing.
[00:52] <Foxkeh> I have a question, Charlie, how long have you been using Linux?
[00:53] <charlie-tca> since 2005
[00:53] <alienkid> Charlie should I tune2fs from there to up the mount count on it?
[00:53] <charlie-tca> I started with Ubuntu 5.04
[00:53] <alienkid> *could
[00:53] <Foxkeh> Wow.
[00:53] <Xikkub> Red Hat FTW
[00:53] <Foxkeh> No, Ubuntu.
[00:53] <Xikkub> no Red Hat
[00:53] <Mood> No, Xubuntu
[00:53] <knome> ##linux for flamewar
[00:53] <Xikkub> no Windows
[00:54] <knome> PLEASE!
[00:54] <Xikkub> hehe
[00:54] <Foxkeh> gtg
[00:54] <knome> i'll kick ye all of if this goes on for any longer.
[00:54] <knome> :P
[00:54] <charlie-tca> alienkid: I think you have to use "fsck -y /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk"
[00:55] <Mood> what's the #xubuntu bot?
[00:55] <knome> !bot
[00:55] <charlie-tca> Oh, alienkid. Yes, I think you could set it there
[00:55] <zoredache> hi ubottu
[00:55] <alienkid> yeah but after can I up the mount count to it from the root terminal?
[00:55] <Mood> oh yrsh.... any other bots?
[00:55] <charlie-tca> yes
[00:55] <zoredache> well there us ubuntulog, but he is pretty much silent
[00:56] <alienkid> ok thanks
[00:56] <knome> Mood, people sometimes have thought i'm one.
[00:56] <Mood> knome: heh heh
[00:56] <charlie-tca> Mood: Isn't one irritating enough for us?
[00:56] <knome> Mood, no, really :P
[00:56] <Mood> charlie-tca: i think _YOU'RE_ a bot! lol
[00:56] <charlie-tca> No, I'm real
[00:57] <knome> Mood, even if he is a machine doesn't mean he's a bot :P
[00:57] <charlie-tca> as observed by the bad advice given at times
[00:57] <charlie-tca> Give me a break today.
[00:59] <charlie-tca> I just read a lot!
[00:59] <Mood> heehee
[00:59] <Xikkub> Welcome to #xubuntu! You can search my brain at http://smouch.net/lol/
[01:00] <knome> !behave | Xikkub
[01:00] <knome> uh.
[01:00] <knome> !manners | Xikkub
[01:00] <knome> ;P
[01:00] <knome> wasn't relevant either.
[01:00] <Xikkub> lol nt though
[01:01] <charlie-tca> Someday I'm going to learn how to use that 'bot
[01:02] <Xikkub> lol haha
[01:04] <Xikkub> !manners | Xikkub
[01:04] <Xikkub> !where
[01:04] <Xikkub> !sex
[01:04] <Xikkub> aww
[01:04] <Xikkub> lol i dont know anaything about ***
[01:05] <Xikkub> sowy :(
[01:06] <knome> !offtopic
[01:06] <Mood> doesn't xubuntu =? drugs? it sure is addictive
[01:06] <Xikkub> im having fun torturing ubottu
[01:06] <zoredache> !bugabuse
[01:06] <zoredache> !botabuse
[01:06] <knome> !channels
[01:07] <Xikkub> hahaha
[01:07] <knome> zoredache, yes, but you can't search for channel-specific factoids in private.
[01:08] <zoredache> which seems kinda silly
[01:08] <knome> yah
[01:08] <zoredache> tell 'them' to fix that
[01:08] <knome> i also can't find out how to add channel specific factoids.
[01:08] <Xikkub> [20:08] <Xikkub> anything
[01:08] <Xikkub> [01:08] <Xikkub> hehehe
[01:09] <zoredache> Myrtti knows how, you could bug her
[01:09] <knome> zoredache, asked jussi01
[01:10] <Xikkub> LOL UBOTTU ISNT RESPONDING TO ME HEHE
[01:10] <knome> Myrtti, hei mörkö.
[01:11] <s19113i> Does the gecko media player for firefox   work in xubuntu?
[01:12] <knome> s19113i, i'd suppose so.
[01:12] <Jaredster> durt, didnt work me thinks
[01:13] <s19113i> Thanks Knome!  I'll give it a go.
[01:15] <s19113i> One more question.  Is the proceedure for installing nvidia 177 the same in xubuntu as ubuntu?
[01:16] <zoredache> s19113i: it should be
[01:16] <Xikkub>  it should be
[01:16] <Xikkub> [19:44] <Sw3RvE> it doesnt w
[01:17] <s19113i> Thanks again, I prefer xfce to gnome.  That's why I'm switching.
[01:31]  * Xikkub[A] is now away - Reason : cuz i *u** want to
[01:33] <durt>  Jaredster:well take a look at 'man xorg.conf' to re-familiarize yourself with the structure and googling xorg.conf will give you a good idea of what you need to put in the thing. It can be video card and monitor specific.
[01:33] <Jaredster> I tried to make one, but it didn't work.
[01:33] <Jaredster> I'm going to install the beta and see if that fixes it
[01:34] <durt> beta of what?
[01:34] <Jaredster> ubuntu
[01:34] <durt> there's a beta out? already?
[01:34] <Jaredster> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/
[01:34] <Jaredster> err alpha
[01:34] <Jaredster> >_>
[01:35] <Jaredster> this problem completely disables the entire computer for me
[01:35] <Jaredster> I also tried making my own xorg.conf, but it gave me errors and reverted to the old version.
[01:35] <durt> um, I'm running jaunty on my desktop and today was a baaaaaad day for alpha testers.
[01:35] <Jaredster> maybe I did something wrong.
[01:35] <Jaredster> why's that?
[01:36] <durt> GDM got nuked and fixed in a span of a few hours
[01:36] <durt> if thats the type of thing you wish to deal with
[01:37] <durt> stick with 8.10 and work on a solution.
[01:37] <Jaredster> ok
[01:39] <kyoobeh> installing DSL now
[01:39] <kyoobeh> that took like 5 minutes, hahaha
[01:40] <durt> I think you can still run DSL in ram, with 128 meg if I'm not mistaken?
[01:41] <Xikkub[A]> ya i think so
[01:41] <durt> ya, 800 MHz is gonna be fast, why not get more ram for the thing?
[01:41] <kyoobeh> eh, i could
[01:41]  * Xikkub is no longer away : Gone for 10 minutes 4 seconds
[01:42] <kyoobeh> but that costs me moneys :P
[01:42] <kyoobeh> maybe i will soon
[01:42] <kyoobeh> dunno how easy it'd be to put ram into this lappy though
[01:42] <Xikkub> ram is pretty cheap tho
[01:43] <durt> not if it's older ram, ie. PC333
[01:43] <durt> if you can find it
[01:43] <Xikkub> ahhhh yeah i forgot about that
[01:43] <Xikkub> old tings are so expensive
[01:43] <kyoobeh> this thing runs like butter on DSL..
[01:44] <Xikkub> well of course it does XD
[01:44] <kyoobeh> lol
[01:44] <Xikkub> what kernel does dsl use?
[01:44] <durt> ditch the bitch and make the switch to eeepc
[01:44] <Xikkub> haha
[01:44] <Xikkub> !manners
[01:44] <Xikkub> XD
[01:44] <kyoobeh> durt, that's probably what i'm going to do when i'm ready to spend money on a laptop..
[01:45] <Xikkub> i so want a new laptop
[01:45] <Xikkub> mine is a piece of 115, 104, 105, 116
[01:45] <durt> ditch the bitch and make the switch to eeepc
[01:45] <durt> oops
[01:45] <Xikkub> hahaha
[01:45] <durt> ditto
[01:46] <durt> damn up arrow right beneath enter
[01:46] <kyoobeh> lol
[01:46] <charlie-tca> !language | durt
[01:46] <Xikkub> hahahahahah
[01:47] <durt> understood, and apologies
[01:47] <kyoobeh> can you do fun things like
[01:47] <kyoobeh> !hug | durt
[01:47] <Xikkub> heheh
[01:47] <kyoobeh> sad
[01:47] <Xikkub> !se.x
[01:47] <kyoobeh> ubottu is a sad lonely bot :(
[01:47] <Xikkub> hawhawhaw
[01:47] <Xikkub> watch this
[01:47] <Xikkub> !anything
[01:48] <kyoobeh> !everything
[01:48] <kyoobeh> hmm
[01:48] <kyoobeh> lol
[01:48] <Xikkub> !something
[01:48] <Xikkub> !you
[01:48] <Xikkub> !me
[01:48] <Xikkub> nada
[01:48] <durt> rude ubuntu-bot is rude
[01:48] <Xikkub> !how stupid you are
[01:48] <kyoobeh> !will you be my friend?
[01:48] <Xikkub> !how_stupid_u_r
[01:48] <kyoobeh> :(\
[01:48]  * durt snickers
[01:49] <Xikkub> hawhaw
[01:49] <Xikkub> !how_smart_xikkub_is
[01:49] <Xikkub> !dam
[01:49] <Xikkub> lol its fun to say rude things in private chat with ubottu
[01:49] <Xikkub> ubottu
[01:50] <Xikkub> !ubottu
[01:55]  * Xikkub cant wait for these stupid updates to finish installing
[02:12] <VisuaWare> I dont surpose xubuntu is surpose to be flashing screen for ages with red green blue white black  at installation?  :P
[02:12]  * kyoobeh wonders if Wine would work on DSL
[02:13] <Xikkub> at the startup screen i get those funky colors but it goes to normal in like 1 second
[02:13]  * Xikkub also wonders if Wine would work on DSL
[02:14] <VisuaWare> it dont for me, did it for like 30seconds+ and i got tired of it and hit power button, then it did popup back to Xubuntu logo and saying to take out the CD/DVD  and it finaly power down....
[02:14] <Xikkub> wait, during install?
[02:14] <Xikkub> umm
[02:14] <VisuaWare> yea, booted on dvd, picked to install ... a few seconds after it started the color crap
[02:14] <Xikkub> you tried rebooting? did it install right?
[02:14] <VisuaWare> AMD64 version
[02:14] <Xikkub> you are sure you have that architecture computer?
[02:15] <VisuaWare> and yea i tried boot.. nothing worked, dont think it got that far
[02:15] <durt> kyoobeh: check the website and see if anyone has added the.... uh whatever the DSL equivalent is of .deb... for the distro.
[02:15] <VisuaWare> Q6600 is 64bit so im hoping to god it will run 64 bit arch
[02:16] <Xikkub> wen did the colors appear during installation?
[02:17] <kyoobeh> i needa find a PCMCIA card for this thing lol
[02:17] <Xikkub> lol haha
[02:17] <VisuaWare> pretty much as soon as it started
[02:17] <Xikkub> did u "check cd for defects"
[02:18] <Xikkub> mightve been a bad burn
[02:18] <Xikkub> it may also be that you didnt do a clean shutdown of windows
[02:18] <Xikkub> that is if you have windows
[02:18] <durt> kyoobeh: what? network card?
[02:18] <VisuaWare> im asuming 32 bit linux also limited on the RAM?  i been using xp32 for some time, as hated vista.. and do have 8gb ram in this box id like to see avalible :P
[02:19] <zoredache> VisuaWare: well you could use pae, but that comes at a performance cost....
[02:19] <zoredache> I would guess that it is related to your video card somehow, not the cpu architecture
[02:20] <zoredache> you might give the alternate installer a shot
[02:20] <zoredache> !alternate | VisuaWare
[02:20] <Sw3RvE> why dont you just use 64-bit XP or 64-bit Ubuntu/Xubuntu
[02:20] <VisuaWare> is what i was trying to do :P   well 64bit XP too much issues, and as i dont play the "games" i used too... figured time to go Linux for good :P
[02:21] <VisuaWare> as can always get wine or whatever if need be someday
[02:21] <Xikkub> yeah but games under wine are often slow
[02:21] <VisuaWare> well games i play on this box.. is a OVERKILL lets put it like that :P
[02:22] <VisuaWare> Alternate cd also avalible as 64bit i asume?  else could just download the regular i386 tho be kinda sad
[02:23] <zoredache> yes, it is
[02:25] <VisuaWare> downloadin it and praying it works,
[02:26] <zoredache> VisuaWare: I suspect it will install.  If you are having a video problem like I suspect you'll probably have to fight xorg configuration a bit once you get installed
[02:27] <VisuaWare> well got 2x  8800 GTs in it, and did have issues w whatever distro i tried last year, but that did install but xwin did go crazy when i tried install the correct drivers, hence i fked it all up as didnt know how to fix it again :P
[02:44] <forces> http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7131/xforcesot5.png
[02:45] <Xikkub> what distro
[02:45] <Xikkub> eres de espanol?
[02:46] <durt> forces: before I click on your link, what is it about?
[02:46] <forces> xfce
[02:46] <Xikkub> (jus a pic of his com)
[02:46] <forces> Xikkub, hablo español
[02:46] <forces> mas que el ingles
[02:46] <forces> :P
[02:47] <forces> la verdad aca entro para practicarlo
[02:47] <Xikkub> quiero la idioma
[02:47] <Xikkub> tomo la clase de espanol y me gusta mucho
[02:48] <Xikkub> no se si estoy un buen estudiante pero me gusta
[02:49] <Xikkub> yo vi "sin nombre" y supe que hablas espanol
[02:49] <forces> Xikkub, pues no hablas tan mal
[02:49] <forces> :P
[02:49] <forces> solo te falta práctica
[02:49] <forces> lo mismo hago yo con el inglés
[02:49] <Xikkub> gracias
[02:49] <Xikkub> jaja
[02:51] <forces> :P
[02:51] <Xikkub> PORQUE UBUNTU ESTA HACIENDO MAS IDIOMAS EN MY COMPUTADORA? :( mi computadora no es tan grande
[02:53] <forces> Xikkub, no entiendo
[02:53] <forces> como así haciendo?
[02:53] <forces> no será instalando?
[02:53] <Xikkub> si
[02:53] <Xikkub> no se como decir
[02:54] <forces> Xikkub, es porque los has seleccionado
[02:54] <forces> si seleccionas varios idiomas ubuntu los instalara
[02:55] <Xikkub> si, instale todos
[02:56] <forces> pues por eso
[02:56] <forces> desinstalalos
[02:56] <Xikkub> pero es buen porque ubuntu es muy popular y es buen que instalar para personas extranjeras
[02:56] <Xikkub> verdad?
[02:58] <Xikkub> hace tres horas que instalo los instalados
[02:58] <Xikkub> :(
[03:00] <VisuaWare> ok installed the alternate cd, and after boot and try start xubuntu it does the coloring screens again
[03:00] <Xikkub> u went into console boot
[03:00] <Xikkub> non graphical mode
[03:00] <Xikkub> >
[03:00] <Xikkub> ?
[03:01] <VisuaWare> first option so im guessing graphical 2nd was safe-mode i think it said, ill know in 2sec
[03:01] <VisuaWare> generic and recovery.. so was generic i used
[03:01] <Xikkub> yeah u should try non graphical mode if its available. thats probably whats casuing the screen problem
[03:01] <Xikkub> i remember when i had red hat, it put my monitor out of range
[03:02] <VisuaWare> in GRUB right now.. how am i gettin to textmode so can fix this?
[03:02] <VisuaWare> recovery mode?
[03:02] <Xikkub> yes
[03:03] <Xikkub> that should do it
[03:04] <VisuaWare> any hint where to go ajust the mode, havent been near linux for years so yeah just need it "starting" proper so can get down to learning again :P
[03:04] <Xikkub> adjust screen size u mean?
[03:04] <Xikkub> resolution
[03:05] <VisuaWare> yeah possibly, my guess is its the refresh rate thats off
[03:05] <VisuaWare> max 60hz on this baby i think
[03:05] <Xikkub> hmm. not sure. never had to mess with that
[03:05] <Xikkub> maybe somebody else here could help
[03:05] <Xikkub> ?
[03:06] <VisuaWare> mmm is there midnight commander or whatever it was called in the basic install?
[03:06] <Xikkub> dunno what that is
[03:07] <VisuaWare> ala "norton commander" from ol dos days :P
[03:07] <Xikkub> ahh
[03:08] <Xikkub> thats a file explorer tho
[03:08] <Xikkub> i can just use cd,ls,mkdir etc etc
[03:08] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.24-23-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.83GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 78.8% free] disk[Total: 1.1TB, 85.6% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[03:08] <Xikkub> bueno!
[03:09] <Xikkub> laptop?
[03:09] <forces> porque?
[03:09] <Xikkub> quiero que saber
[03:09] <zoredache> VisuaWare: I don't think mc is in the base install, but it should be trivial to install it.  'apt-get install mc'
[03:09] <VisuaWare> mmm guess this console wont let me do shit... xconfig i was pretty sure was the config for xwin qq
[03:10] <VisuaWare> ya i found that out, but network aint working i guess
[03:10] <Xikkub> the console isnt the same as a terminal
[03:10] <forces> Xikkub, si
[03:10] <zoredache> One of the options is to start a root shell
[03:10] <Xikkub> son mismos?
[03:11] <Xikkub> o tu computadora es un "laptop"
[03:11] <Xikkub> 1TB? dios mio ;)
[03:12] <forces> Xikkub, 1.1TB
[03:12] <Xikkub> 1.1 es el mismo -.-
[03:12] <Xikkub> mas o menos
[03:12] <forces> pero me ha contado mi disco duro externo
[03:12] <forces> miremos si lo desmonto
[03:12] <forces> vaya ahora a ver
[03:12] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.24-23-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 78.5% free] disk[Total: 1011.8GB, 85.5% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[03:13] <Xikkub> tengo que "translatar" los frases XD
[03:13] <forces> vez
[03:13] <forces> desmontar = umount
[03:13] <Xikkub> contado
[03:13] <Xikkub> duro
[03:13] <VisuaWare> root@q6600, but i cant even do a ls  o.o
[03:13] <forces> Xikkub, se dice traducir
[03:13] <VisuaWare> lol never felt this disabled in my life
[03:13] <Xikkub> yeah it sux
[03:15] <VisuaWare> buntu dont like me much i think :/
[03:15] <Xikkub> voy a usar Xchat
[03:15] <Xikkub> lol ubuntu dunt like anybody
[03:15] <Xikkub> cept the smart ones
[03:16] <Xikkub> brb
[03:17] <VisuaWare> cant fix anything with my hands cuffed on the back -.-
[03:20] <Xikkub> back
[03:21] <Xikkub> wow wine is beast
[03:21] <Xikkub> super beast
[03:26] <VisuaWare> ok can u tell me WHERE the xorg.conf is located on this dist... aint in etc/X11/  as folder missin for me lol
[03:26] <xikkub2> hey s3xy
[03:26] <Xikkub> hi thar
[03:26] <xikkub2> ur hawt
[03:26] <Xikkub> why ty
[03:26] <zoredache> VisuaWare: it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:27] <VisuaWare> X11 aint in there o.o
[03:27] <xikkub2> hey everybody
[03:27] <VisuaWare> nvm finaly worked lol i hate this qq
[03:27] <xikkub2> U STOLE MA NAME
[03:27] <Xikkub> no u
[03:28] <durt> VisuaWare: then you have a corrupted install - check again
[03:28] <xikkub2> wtf. whyd u steal my name
[03:29] <xikkub2> omfg everybody is stealing my name
[03:29] <Xikkub> no, u are
[03:29] <Xikkub3> NO U
[03:29] <xikkub2> stoppit, im the real xikkub
[03:29] <Xikkub3> why lie
[03:29] <VisuaWare> any edit options INSTALLED by default?  that dont need install from net, as aint working yet
[03:29] <Xikkub> im not lying
[03:29] <xikkub2> shut up
[03:29] <VisuaWare> gedit was only one i remember but thats not installed in this :P
[03:29] <xikkub2> !manners
[03:30] <durt> VisuaWare: on CLI, nano
[03:30] <zoredache> VisuaWare: nano is available
[03:30] <Xikkub> not cool
[03:30] <xikkub2> yes, we  already know ur not cool
[03:30] <Xikkub> PLZ STOP
[03:30] <VisuaWare> THANK YOU!
[03:30] <xikkub2> no u
[03:30] <Xikkub3> ass hole
[03:31] <xikkub2> !language
[03:31] <Xikkub3> !language
[03:31] <Xikkub> !language
[03:31] <Xikkub3> dick
[03:31] <Xikkub3> shit
[03:31] <Xikkub3> piss
[03:31] <Xikkub3> ass
[03:31] <Xikkub3> fuck
[03:31] <zoredache> !ops
[03:31] <Xikkub3> suck my cock
[03:31] <Xikkub> thank you
[03:31] <durt> is this a Terry Guilliam screen play?
[03:32] <zoredache> thanks Cody :)
[03:33] <Xikkub> thanks
[03:33] <Xikkub> my friends are going crazy
[03:34] <VisuaWare> aint nothing set but Default monitor etc in the conf... mmmm wasnt there a textmode setup for X config..
[03:35] <durt> VisuaWare: what version?
[03:36] <VisuaWare> all i know is i installed xubuntu 8.10 alternate AMD64
[03:36] <VisuaWare> and network aint working and display is fked so need fix the monitor b4 i can try fix the net :P
[03:37] <zoredache> is the network wired or wireless?  What type of card?
[03:37] <VisuaWare> wired,  onboard the  Asus Striker. so a nvidia chipset
[03:37] <VisuaWare> i can go find exact specs if need
[03:38] <zoredache> if you run the command 'ip addr' do you see any interfaces other then lo?
[03:39] <VisuaWare> 1: lo, 2: eth0  3: eth1   and only eth0 i know is connected, only using 1 of the ports
[03:40] <zoredache> are you sure eth0 is eth0?  perhaps the interfaces are in a different order then you expect?
[03:40] <VisuaWare> well that could be .P
[03:40] <zoredache> run 'ip link' and see which interfaces is reported as DOWN
[03:40] <VisuaWare> both of them
[03:41] <zoredache> try running the command dhclient eth0 and if that doesn't work try dhclient eth1
[03:41] <Xikkub> wireshark is win
[03:42] <VisuaWare> ooo some happen here :Å
[03:42] <Xikkub> ?
[03:42] <VisuaWare> eth0 is no longer down :P
[03:42] <zoredache> did you get an ip?
[03:43] <VisuaWare> yea, and it works, i tested w apt-get install MC :P
[03:43] <VisuaWare> worked now
[03:43] <zoredache> ok, you might also want to install envyng-core
[03:43] <VisuaWare> what is that
[03:43] <zoredache> it is a tool that helps you install the nvidia drivers
[03:43] <durt> not on 8.10, jockey-gtk
[03:44] <VisuaWare> so is that a "not" to me? o.o
[03:44] <durt> envyng for 8.04
[03:44] <durt> if it's an nvidia prob
[03:45] <zoredache> durt: it is still in the repos for 8.10.  Will he be able to use jockey if the gui doesn't work at all?
[03:45] <VisuaWare> i think it is, anycase the xorg.conf had ALL DEfault ... nothing was set to anything other than default
[03:45] <VisuaWare> and that wont work on this poor monitor
[03:46] <durt> zoredache: won't be able to use envy either if no gui
[03:46] <zoredache> durt: envy has a command-line component
[03:46] <zoredache> envyng -t
[03:47] <durt> i stand corrected
[03:47] <VisuaWare> im a total noob, BUT i remember last time i try linux years ago... xwin had a damn textmode config for setting up monitor etc
[03:47] <VisuaWare> xconfig or some chit
[03:47] <VisuaWare> but that aint working :P
[03:48] <zoredache> lets say it this way, it worked for me for getting my nvidia 9500 going...  But I am definatly not the person to talk to about video/xorg issues
[03:48] <durt> VisuaWare: what card?
[03:49] <VisuaWare> 2x 8800 GT
[03:49] <durt> VisuaWare: should be recognized of the bat, you think it's a monitor prob?
[03:50] <VisuaWare> using a 30" Samsung and max i know is 60hz any resolution...from what i remember
[03:51] <VisuaWare> did they remove the textmode setup for xwin? since noone confirm or deny that exists
[03:53] <durt> P/N number for it? google it if necessary,  ya, the old xf86config is loooooong been deprecated.
[03:54] <zoredache> who is 'they'?  the xorg guys have been trying as hard as they can to get xorg to a point where it configures itself automatically
[03:54] <VisuaWare> they.. the nice boys who did the xubuntu dist :P they can do as they see fit no? :P
[03:55] <zoredache> the xorg package did some configuration up until the recent release, but that was removed in favor of just letting xorg try and figure things out itself
[03:56] <VisuaWare> great they try be like M$  .-
[03:56] <VisuaWare> automatic always seams to "fail" along the lines
[03:56] <durt> zoredache: most of the time this works OOTB, old or obscure monitors are the biggest head-ache
[03:56] <VisuaWare> whats a "nicer" editor to plug in here,  Nano really aint me sorry :P
[03:57] <VisuaWare> but now that aptget works, ill take use of it :P
[03:57] <zoredache> do vi or emacs work for you?
[03:57] <zoredache> once you get a gui working there are lots of good choices
[03:57] <VisuaWare> im a sucker for good old dos shit from BBS days u know :P so yea a classic as possible "edit" would do :P
[03:57] <durt> VisuaWare: xorg guys still have xorg.conf for us to fiddle with
[03:58] <VisuaWare> ya i just need a textmode one right now
[03:58] <VisuaWare> durt is one im about to "FIDDLE" with...
[03:58] <VisuaWare> with some google help on trying to make it "work" for now enuff to boot xwin anyways
[03:59] <durt> wtf is xwin?
[03:59] <VisuaWare> but i defently need learn terminal chit too,  already shocked how easy zoredache fixed my network
[03:59] <VisuaWare> SORRY :P X11 ^^
[03:59] <Xikkub> what was the problem
[03:59] <Xikkub> i just got on
[04:00] <VisuaWare> zoredache and thanks a lot for that btw ;)
[04:00] <zoredache> VisuaWare: that was a temporary fix.  to permanently fix it, you'll probably need to tweak your /etc/network/interfaces file a bit
[04:00] <durt> everybody shutup about Xikkub
[04:01] <Xikkub> ?
[04:01] <Xikkub> whats goin on
[04:01] <durt> everybody   ssshhhhh..
[04:01] <VisuaWare> lol ya tweak --  i think its tweeking me more than i am it for now
[04:02] <Xikkub> durt: wtf is going on
[04:02] <durt> Ja, bother love, good luck mon
[04:02] <Xikkub> srsly dude, wtf
[04:03] <durt> Xikkub: seriously bother, nuttin goin on
[04:03] <durt> *brother
[04:03] <Xikkub> lol im not stupid
[04:03] <Xikkub> now wuts going on
[04:05] <aunoaib> hi
[04:06] <aunoaib> i cant find any free programs to record my desktop
[04:06] <durt> nobody 'ere but us chickens, like say.
[04:06] <zoredache> record your desktop?  what do you mean?  Are you wanting a screenshot?
[04:06] <aunoaib> no, a screencast
[04:06] <aunoaib> like record a video of my screen
[04:07] <aunoaib> i found one but its like not freeware
[04:08] <zoredache> aunoaib: maybe pyvnc2swf
[04:08] <zoredache> you basically have to setup a vnc server, and it records the vnc output
[04:09] <Xikkub> interesting. i should look into that too
[04:09] <Xikkub> once i get wireshark to work :(
[04:10] <aunoaib> i have wireshark, too, but i cant figure out how to find information about the wpa network
[04:10] <Xikkub> yeah im clueless as well
[04:13] <aunoaib> we need to find some wireshark irc channels
[04:13] <zoredache> aunoaib: you might also check out wink
[04:13] <aunoaib> ??
[04:13] <zoredache> !info wink
[04:14] <aunoaib> ahh. interesting
[04:15] <aunoaib> !info g++
[04:15] <VisuaWare> well figured out how to download a damn xorg conf file someone had for the samsung 305t, and THAT got me MUCh further :P qq
[04:15] <aunoaib> !language
[04:15] <VisuaWare> i have GUI, mouse and WOOOO a Error on 3 devices.. im getting somewhere lol
[04:15] <aunoaib> lol
[04:16] <slv> hi, is it possible to run 64-bit windows VM's under 64-bit xubuntu? if so what VM software is recommended, virtualbox?
[04:16] <aunoaib> cant u run any type of os under vm
[04:16] <VisuaWare> lol bad idea to try fix that, now im in rainbow colors again qq
[04:16] <zoredache> slv: i know you can do it under vmware
[04:17] <slv> ok thx
[04:17] <zoredache> aunoaib: depends on the virtualization.  vmware depends heavily on the cpu, so to run a 64bit os you must have a 64bit processor, and host os
[04:18] <aunoaib> ahh, i understand
[04:18] <Xikkub> how do u register a nick
[04:18] <Xikkub> !help
[04:19] <aunoaib> lol xikkub how u liking ur ubuntu
[04:19] <Xikkub> get of my computer. now
[04:20] <aunoaib> lolwut
[04:20] <Xikkub> off. now.
[04:20] <VisuaWare> ok now, so what you say to install on 8.10 for nvidia to mess up x11 some more
[04:21] <zoredache> you might try installing and running jockey like durt suggested
[04:21] <VisuaWare> jockey-gtk?  i can get to x11 now but had some errors, but it can "start" now, just used another conf someone w GTS and same monitor... im on a GT tho
[04:24] <aunoaib> hehe xikkub
[04:24] <Xikkub> hehe aunoaib
[04:26] <VisuaWare> well im in x11 now.. so any suggestion what to do to fix the nvidia madness
[04:27] <VisuaWare> guessing get the drivers in officialy and hope it works qq
[04:28] <VisuaWare> ah nice, yeah X did change since i saw it last :P
[04:32] <VisuaWare> nvidia 177.82 in and works ;) that wasnt so bad afterall
[04:34] <durt> VisuaWare: if your feeling adventurous try 180.11 that's the latest and greatest for 8.10
[04:34] <VisuaWare> lol
[04:35] <VisuaWare> wasnt on the list "officialy" so i think ill wait till i tested a bit more first, before i need "repair" a fkup again haha
[04:35] <durt> your card should be supported
[04:38] <VisuaWare> where should i install it at,  updates almost done
[04:40] <aunoaib> stupid shortcut key to terminal
[04:41] <Xikkub> lol
[04:42] <VisuaWare> im in looooveeee :P   722mib of 7,8gib used :P
[04:42] <VisuaWare> even during System update install process its barely using the cores v.v
[04:44] <Xikkub> i cant fking get this wireshark to work :(
[04:44] <durt> for anyone who wants to know which nvidia driver they should pick, peruse this list from nvidia (bookmark it!): http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.29/README/appendix-a.html
[04:44]  * aunoaib bookmarked it
[04:45]  * Xikkub bookmarked it cuz we are same person, dumb@$$
[04:45]  * Reno` already downloaded it :)
[04:48] <VisuaWare> so should i just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 nvidia-180-modaliases ?   googled it :P
[04:48] <VisuaWare> as its not in the hardware drivers list yet
[04:51] <Xikkub> nadie sabe como usar wireshark?
[04:52] <Xikkub> nobody knows how to use wireshark>
[04:52] <durt> VisuaWare: are you sure? 180.11 was most definitely available for me. Are you running jockey?
[04:53] <VisuaWare> well i installed it... dont ask me if im running it :P how do i know lol
[04:53] <durt> applications -> system tools -> hardware drivers
[04:54] <durt> or in a terminal: sudo jockey-gtk
[04:54] <VisuaWare> hardware drivers still 177 highest
[04:55] <VisuaWare> and the command in terminal shows the hardware drivers with same result
[04:56] <durt> what card again?
[04:56] <VisuaWare> 8800 GT
[04:57] <VisuaWare> lol windows is soooo going bye bye and limited to a vmware sometimes maybe :P
[04:58] <durt> well according to nvidia 8800 GT is supported by 180, don't know why it's not coming up in jockey
[04:58] <Ishmael> hello my tech savvy friends
[04:59] <durt> dude get that whale out of here
[04:59] <Ishmael> ?
[04:59] <Ishmael> the whale was the other guy
[04:59] <Reno`> hmm what will work faster xubuntu-desktop or if i install some components xfce ?
[05:00] <durt> Reno`: I think it all depends how much gnome you get rid of.
[05:01] <Xikkub> well see ya guys later
[05:01] <Ishmael> xubuntu boots into a command line screen, where i have to type "Exit" to boot into the gui, and thus start the vino server that i use to access it, how do i get it to boot straight to the gui?
[05:01] <Xikkub> you need to change your startup file
[05:01] <Xikkub> forgot whats called
[05:01] <Xikkub> XD
[05:02] <Ishmael> quantum networking bits look like both ones and zeros
[05:02] <Reno`> bgg i think i destroy gnome-desktop-data and another gnome package :D
[05:04] <durt> Ishmael: saw one that looked like my cat too.
[05:05] <Ishmael> a quantum bit? i doubt the veracity of your statements
[05:07] <durt> um.... string theory?
[05:08] <Ishmael> ohhhhhh
[05:08] <Ishmael> string theory
[05:11] <durt> well, I was going to prepare a well thought out equation that would prove that the previous statement came from one of many multiple universes but the daily show just came on.
[05:13] <durt> uhh, it's a rerun.
[05:22] <VisuaWare> dosbox installed... mmm and what u suggest for virtual os for windows.... VMWARE or we have any free goodies avalible thats good?
[05:30] <Ishmael> i've been using wine, and have been happy with it, although i think it made me freeze last time i used a certain program
[05:30] <VisuaWare> downloading VirtualBox OSE... hoping its any good, but again, i highly doubt any OSS Team can make as many flaws as M$ so ill take my chances lol
[05:31] <VisuaWare> i just need a XP32 avalible for a few things, rest it seams linux will do much better now anyways
[05:35] <Ishmael> if anyone who's active can tell me how to get rid of that initial boot command-line, plz help
[05:37] <durt> why? It'll save your butt if you screw up your install.
[05:37] <Ishmael> hmm...easy as changing grub?
[05:38] <Ishmael> but it's a server with no keyboard/mouse/monitor
[05:38] <Ishmael> without vino, i'm blind, i have to manually hook up my keyboard, assume it's ready for "exit" and then try to log in with vnc
[05:38] <durt> I don't get it. You need user input to boot?
[05:39] <Ishmael> yeah, it won't go past the command line unless i type "exit"
[05:39] <durt> !vino
[05:39] <Ishmael> and then it loads the gui
[05:39] <Ishmael> vino is vnc, just one i've found
[05:40] <durt> understood
[05:42] <VisuaWare> ok 2 final questions, what be best way to get my NTFS shit to a partition buntu likes and any "utorrent" alike for linux? so far once i look at are rather plain simple for downloading
[05:42] <durt> so you boot to a CLI, input login/password, then exit and it starts x?
[05:42] <Ishmael> i don't even need login/password.  simply "exit"
[05:43] <durt> how do you login?
[05:43] <Ishmael> and it auto-boots into my default account after that
[05:43] <Ishmael> i just don't want to have to type exit, so i can turn on the box, if it had to restart, and go straight to it from vnc
[05:44] <Ishmael> for torrents: the fanciest i've seen is "vuze", but lately i've enjoyed deluge
[05:45] <durt> personally I like ctorrent or rtorrent both command line apps.
[05:45] <Ishmael> vuze is java based i think, so it hogs up resources...or at least it does in my mind
[05:46] <VisuaWare> Transmission  looks so so, but i wouldnt know qq
[05:46] <durt> best gui torrent app I've used is ktorrent the kde native app.
[05:46] <Ishmael> i'll have to look into the client's durt mentioned
[05:47] <durt> transmission is cpu hungry too.
[05:47] <Ishmael> ktorrent didn't really do it for me
[05:48] <durt> I found ktorrent slightly less resource hungry than transmission
[05:49] <durt> *slightly*
[05:49] <Ishmael> only thing i don't like about deluge is that i haven't found any option that lets it minimize to the icon
[05:49] <Ishmael> so when you close it out, it really stops
[05:49] <Sw3RvE> how do i make my terminal look like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Xfce-4.4.png
[05:51] <VisuaWare> ktorrent it will be for now i think
[05:51] <VisuaWare> i would go for ctorrent if wasnt a discontiniued project for now, im picky like that :P
[05:51] <Ishmael> Sw3RvE, are they using xfwm4?
[05:52] <Sw3RvE> idk its on the wikipedia
[05:52] <Ishmael> i think that's what it's advertising... do you mean how to install?
[05:52] <Sw3RvE> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce
[05:54] <Ishmael> have you seen the windows vs. linux video?
[05:54] <VisuaWare> this is the first time ever it went so "smooth" gettin into linux and working...
[05:54] <VisuaWare> now only missing a "nero" replacement... and i think i found my new home .P
[05:54] <Ishmael> k3b
[05:54] <Sw3RvE> me or vis
[05:54] <Ishmael> VisuaWare, k3b
[05:54] <Ishmael> my bad
[05:55] <Ishmael> and video question is for Sw3RvE
[05:55] <Sw3RvE> no
[05:55] <VisuaWare> thanks for all your help all of you..  past the video issues and it went easier than any dist ever did b4 :P
[05:55] <Ishmael> i'll find it, it shows how ubuntu and a few add-ons blows windows vista out of the water
[05:55] <Sw3RvE> i just would like to know how to make terminal transparent like that. is it something already on xubuntu or do i have to install something?
[05:56] <VisuaWare> k3b failed :/  qq
[05:56] <Sw3RvE> ishmael ive seen screenshots of ubuntu that look like vista
[05:56] <Sw3RvE> i have a dock on mine that looks like mac
[05:56] <Ishmael> sudo k3b?
[05:56] <VisuaWare> vista is ghey as hell.. u wanna buy my vista 64 pro or ultimate i forgot wich lol
[05:56] <Sw3RvE> vista blows
[05:57] <Sw3RvE> they make you use more ram and a faster cpu so you have to buy new hardware
[05:57] <VisuaWare> i paid for that shit.. and never used it for more than a weekend.. and it went OUT
[05:57] <Sw3RvE> Windows 7 is going to be the same way unless they make some major improvements on that beta.
[05:57] <Ishmael> this should be the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[05:58] <Sw3RvE> my laptop that im using now came with vista. i took it off bc it took like 2-3 mins to boot and idle.
[05:58] <Ishmael> windows 7 is just a picture of hitler, it's been confirmed
[05:59] <Sw3RvE> good song lol
[05:59] <Sw3RvE> so is this guy going to keep opening things until it freezes or what
[05:59] <Ishmael> 1:35 when he goes to linux
[05:59] <Ishmael> he's showing vista's graphic features maxed out, vs linux
[06:00] <Sw3RvE> dude
[06:00] <Ishmael> you will shit brix
[06:00] <Sw3RvE> what is that making it like fireworks exploding
[06:00] <Sw3RvE> that was awesome
[06:00] <Ishmael> there's a list of what he has installed somewhere, it might just be on the end of the video
[06:00] <VisuaWare> Ishmael trying sudo insted of the add/rem way.. will see if works there
[06:01] <Ishmael> VisuaWare, i think i installed it with "sudo apt-get install k3b"
[06:01] <VisuaWare> im doing that now
[06:01] <Ishmael> if that doesn't work, i'm very confused
[06:01] <Sw3RvE> damn my dock cant do that nunchuck thing lol
[06:01] <VisuaWare> worked like a charm :P
[06:02] <Ishmael> Sw3RvE, didn't see the list on that video, but there IS a list somewhere, google/youtube has it somewhere
[06:02] <Sw3RvE> i need a job so i can build my new pc.
[06:02] <Sw3RvE> lmfao i love the end of the video
[06:02] <Ishmael> VisuaWare, awesome, and if you haven't heard of devede, you should get that as well
[06:03] <Sw3RvE> is it called Beryl
[06:03] <Ishmael> VisuaWare, well, if you author your own dvd's from...other sources
[06:03] <Ishmael> Sw3RvE, that's it? kk, i thought he had certain packs installed, i'm not familiar with beryl, my system can't handle that
[06:04] <VisuaWare> ish, will look at it, tho i just need backup old chit now that i throw out windows lol
[06:05] <Sw3RvE> idk i saw a thumbnail for a video and it has a window on fire
[06:05] <Sw3RvE> so im sure thats one of the apps he had.
[06:05] <Ishmael> VisuaWare, i had to run k3b as root; "sudo k3b" from command line to burn; but apparently there is a safer way to do it, i think it involves changing the permissions of the drive
[06:05] <Sw3RvE> im still trying to figure out how to change my icons lol
[06:06] <VisuaWare> possibly any 3ddemo scene geeks in here who know if any such avalible with some kick a-ss chit.. as in dotprodukt and such :P im sure they made some for opengl too on linux.. cant all be DirectX jerks
[06:08] <VisuaWare> ya i wanna see how smooth the chit runs on linux :P when windows aint hogging all the juice lol
[06:08] <Ishmael> good luck with that
[06:11] <Myrtti> VisuaWare: mind your language, please.
[06:12] <Sw3RvE> hey myrtti
[06:16] <Sw3RvE> Ishmael: Do i have to install something to make my terminal transparent?
[06:17] <Ishmael> i don't know anything about that, sorry
[06:17] <Ishmael> but let me look around a bit
[06:17] <Sw3RvE> alright
[06:20] <Ishmael> http://www.xfce.org/xfwm4-theme-howto/
[06:21] <Sw3RvE> oh so is this for any window or is it for terminal only?
[06:23] <Sw3RvE> it looks like a theme for every window
[06:23] <Sw3RvE> right?
[06:24] <Ishmael> from the picture you put up, looks like every window
[06:25] <Sw3RvE> i thought that was the compositor window manager tweaks. i cant get the terminal to look like that tho...
[06:25] <Sw3RvE> right now, i have the boarders or decorations transparent and the inactive windows are transparent as well.
[06:25] <Ishmael> have you tried asking in #ubuntu ? looks like i'm the only other active person here, and i'm still new to xubuntu
[06:26] <Sw3RvE> same here ive had it for about 4 days lol
[06:27] <Ishmael> and i'm running it on an old rack-mounted server :D it's not exactly geared towards looking pretty
[06:27] <Sw3RvE> lol
[06:27] <Sw3RvE> im running mine on my laptop
[06:28] <Sw3RvE> i like xubuntu better than XP
[06:28] <Ishmael> what kind o' laptop? and what wireless chipset do you have?
[06:28] <Sw3RvE> i forgot. id have to get on XP to check. i have a dell inspiron 1501
[06:29] <Sw3RvE> i havnt used wireless yet. i dont even know how to use it on ubuntu.
[06:29] <Sw3RvE> i installed Wi-Fi Radar the other day tho. im going to get my teacher to set it up saturday in class.
[06:29] <Ishmael> i think it's broadcom, according to google
[06:29] <wormsxulla_> Sw3RvE: the network-manager manages wifi
[06:29] <Sw3RvE> yea thats it
[06:30] <Sw3RvE> worms if your talking about the icon by the clock that thing sucks. i need a GUI... lol
[06:30] <Sw3RvE> it wanted the SSID and MAC address of the access point... like im going to know that every time im trying to get online.
[06:31] <Ishmael> there are lists online, so if you want a specific chipset you can price check the different models against each other
[06:31] <Sw3RvE> price check?
[06:31] <Ishmael> kismet
[06:31] <Ishmael> if you were to want to buy one
[06:31] <Ishmael> i had a removable atheros chipset card
[06:31] <Sw3RvE> buy what...
[06:31] <Sw3RvE> oh
[06:32] <Ishmael> then you can script-hack WEP! :D  it makes me feel like a man
[06:32] <Sw3RvE> my wireless works. i just havnt used it on ubuntu or xubuntu yet.
[06:32] <Sw3RvE> you can get passed wep with linux? a guy my old job told me that but i thought he was messing with me.
[06:34] <Myrtti> tranparency can be done with pseudo transparency or with real transparency. latter requires compositor to be put on. it can be put on from applications - settings - settings manager - window manager tweaks - compositor.
[06:35] <Sw3RvE> i think that the terminal in the picture im looking at is an inactive window. i just noticed the right click menu on the desktop...
[06:36] <Sw3RvE> i have transparency on right now Myrtti. i just thought there was a way to make Terminal transparent when it is active.
[06:37] <Myrtti> yeah, it is possible. enabling that compositor is the way, given that the transparency is on in the terminal it self.
[06:38] <Sw3RvE> which setting do i adjust to make an Active window transparent tho? or do i have to enable transparency on terminal now?
[06:40] <Myrtti> graah, train leaves soon, catch you later
[06:40] <Sw3RvE> c ya
[06:41] <Ishmael> Sw3RvE, look up backtrack for the wep cracking, their program combo is aircrack if i remember correctly
[06:41] <Ishmael> wow, trains?
[06:41] <Sw3RvE> choo choo
[06:43] <Sw3RvE> Ishmael is backtrack an OS?
[06:46] <Sw3RvE> or like a live cd?
[06:47] <Ishmael> live cd
[06:47] <Ishmael> well
[06:47] <Ishmael> i think whax is the os
[06:47] <R1cochet> running brasero in terminal and im getting "segmentation fault" just creating chksum is about to finish
[06:48] <Ishmael> but since you already have linux, the program list is what you need
[06:48] <Sw3RvE> good, thats more convenient :)
[06:49] <R1cochet> how can i fix to issue to burn data to a dvd
[06:49] <R1cochet> tthe*
[07:01] <volo> hi
[08:17] <Sw3RvE> how do i delete the Trash, File System, and Home icons from my desktop?
[08:34] <VisuaWare> right click the desktop,  Desktop Settings,  and on the behavior tab u can disable them
[08:34] <Sw3RvE> thank you :) that was easy
[11:28] <Darth_Tux> hi sinbox
[11:28] <sinbox> hi Darth_Tux
[11:28] <Darth_Tux> hows it goin?
[11:28] <sinbox> OKish
[11:29] <Darth_Tux> yeah, that kinds sums it up
[13:18] <volo> hi
[13:59] <Tengen> i am giving away my old laptop with a linux/windows dual boot. I need to make Windows the defualt OS in grub. How do i do that? Also the CD drive is broken, so disks are not an option
[14:14] <Tengen> i am giving away my old laptop with a linux/windows dual boot. I need to make Windows the defualt OS in grub. How do i do that? Also the CD drive is broken, so disks are not an option
[14:14] <knome> Tengen, you should edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:16] <Tengen> which part do i edit?
[14:23] <knome> Tengen, open the dile and read the comments on it.
[14:23] <pleia2> Tengen: at the top there should be a line that says something like "default 0", you want to change 0 to whatever number in the list Windows is
[14:25] <Tengen> i don't see what number it is
[14:27] <knome> Tengen, first enrty is 0, second is 1 etc.
[14:27] <Tengen> ahh, oke
[14:27] <Tengen> trying now
[14:28] <Tengen> it says "Can't open file to write"  when i try to save in mousepad
[14:29] <knome> Tengen, 'gksudo mousepad'
[14:29] <knome> Tengen, (you need to be root to edit it)
[14:30] <Tengen> thx
[14:31] <Tengen> how do i make the menu hidden by default?
[14:31] <Tengen> i see the line for it, but i don't know what to do with it
[14:32] <Tengen> rebooting
[14:34] <Tengen> ok, almost had it, i went to "other operating systems" need to add 1
[14:41] <Tengen> ok, is there any way to format the linux partitions to NTFS with out using a boot disk?
[14:41] <knome> Tengen, with windows booted, you should be able to remove the partitions, but unneeded to say, you'll lose the data anyway.
[14:42] <knome> Tengen, after that you will be able to create new partitions with ntfs
[14:42] <Tengen> well widnwos doesn't see the partitions
[14:42] <Tengen> windows*
[16:04] <Raybdbomb> update-apt-xapian-index
[16:04] <Raybdbomb> what the crap is this and why is it running and clogging my system
[16:18] <Pres-Gas> Raybdbomb, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+package/apt-xapian-index
[16:18] <Pres-Gas> Raybdbomb, http://archive.fosdem.org/2008/schedule/events/debian_apt_xapian_index
[16:18] <Pres-Gas> There is a Media link that is Ogg Theora
[16:20] <Pres-Gas> Part of Ubuntu Core
[16:21] <naplesdragon> hello everyone
[16:21] <Pres-Gas> Hey, naplesdragon
[16:21] <chewit> hello
[16:22] <naplesdragon> i have read on the xubuntu website that here you do offer help
[16:22] <Pres-Gas> !question
[16:22] <genii> Raybdbomb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062688   may work for you.
[16:22] <naplesdragon> how do i get an ATi Radeon 9200SE to work?
[16:23] <naplesdragon> with 8.10?
[16:23] <Pres-Gas> !ati
[16:23] <chewit> you could use two methods
[16:24] <chewit> you could use restricted drivers or use the opensource ones
[16:25] <naplesdragon> well i wanted to install xubuntu to create a homeserver but after the bootloader it is all black
[16:26] <chewit> do u get the xubuntu splash screen
[16:26] <chewit> loading bar
[16:27] <naplesdragon> well the instalation worked but after the instalation my monitor gives me "current Frequencys not supported" after the bootmanager
[16:27] <naplesdragon> no loadingbar
[16:30] <Raybdbomb> thx thx, it went away on its own ;)
[16:32] <naplesdragon> and i am really a newbie with linux i run it on my laptop and it worked out of the box
[16:34] <chewit> ah
[16:34] <chewit> u have the same issue as me
[16:34] <chewit> the resoultion set by xubuntu is too high for ur monitor to manage
[16:35] <chewit> it happens me every  time I reinstall xubuntu
[16:35] <chewit> so much for a bullet proof xorg
[16:35] <naplesdragon> no the problem isn'T on the laptop
[16:35] <naplesdragon> i am installing on a new system
[16:35] <chewit> yeh
[16:35] <chewit> i know, thats what ur message means
[16:36] <naplesdragon> well so how do i solve that?
[16:36] <naplesdragon> sry when i am annoying
[16:36] <chewit> its hard for linux newbies, i find it hard (i have been using linux for over a year)
[16:37] <chewit> when you get passed the bootloader
[16:37] <chewit> and u get that message press
[16:37] <chewit> ctrl + alt + f2
[17:14] <knome> !dvd
[17:15] <naplesdragon> thx chewit for helping me with the ATi problem
[17:15] <bedmunds> Just installed Xubuntu on my old Dell Dimension Box, Impressed with how well it runs...........I want to upgrade the video card though. Old ATI X300 ==No Compiz Eye Candy.
[17:17] <chewit> u can get compiz on that card
[17:17] <naplesdragon> can anyone help me to set up a homeserver
[17:18] <bedmunds> really? I installed the drivers with Envy, set dual monitors, everything was running sweet.........installed compiz and no go, i just assumed I was using an outdated card.
[17:18] <bedmunds> naplesdragon, what's your issue with your homeserver?
[17:19] <slow-motion> hi
[17:19] <bedmunds> hi
[17:19] <chewit> u may not have 3d enabled
[17:20] <chewit> run glxinfo in termina;
[17:21] <bedmunds> just the command "glxinfo"?
[17:22] <naplesdragon> does anyone know how to set up a network with xubuntu 8.10
[17:22] <chewit> yeh
[17:23] <zoredache> naplesdragon: what do you mean when you say network?  filesharing, connection sharing, dhcp, ......
[17:23] <chewit> then look for an output line which says direct rendering
[17:24] <bedmunds> look for yes or no, and then if it says no enable it correct?
[17:25] <chewit> it needs to say yes
[17:25] <chewit> if it says no, u do not have 3d support
[17:27] <bedmunds> 3d support on that card or it means I don't have 3d support enabled?
[17:27] <chewit> Yes = 3D enabled
[17:27] <chewit> No = 3D not enabled
[17:28] <bedmunds> hehe..........thanks. I'm on my work laptop now (Ubuntu 8.10 64bit), but I will definitely give that a try tonight!
[17:28] <chewit> k
[17:28] <chewit> if it says no, u will have reinstall the drivers
[17:28] <naplesdragon> where u from? US?
[17:28] <chewit> maybe use restricted drivers
[17:29] <bedmunds> okay, thanks a lot for the advice
[17:29] <chewit> np
[17:29] <bedmunds> naplesdragon, yes I'm from the US (Denver)
[17:30] <naplesdragon> well thats y ur saying tonight
[17:30] <naplesdragon> coz i am here in Europe(naples)
[17:32] <bedmunds> hehe, yep...it's 10:30 am here.
[17:32] <naplesdragon> 6:30 PM
[17:32] <naplesdragon> or 18:30 in europe
[17:49] <zoredache> !ics
[17:49] <naplesdragon> thx
[17:49] <naplesdragon> zoredache
[17:53] <naplesdragon> i'll try it
[18:07] <bedmunds> naples, how did pm earlier? (new to IRC)....MSG <NICK> <Message>?
[18:08] <naplesdragon> well i dunno
[18:08] <naplesdragon> i am using xChat
[18:09] <naplesdragon> just rightclick on name and put private mail
[18:09] <naplesdragon> like new window
[18:10] <bedmunds> QUERY naplesdragon
[18:11] <bedmunds> ohh
[18:11] <bedmunds> cool
[18:11] <bedmunds> yeah, i'm using xchat
[18:19] <bakerj> how bloated is xubuntu when i install it from the CD?
[18:20] <bakerj> ie. is there like open-office a billion other apps
[18:21] <knome> how can i check a dvd for i/o errors without having to watch it from beginning to end?
[18:22] <knome> bakerj, not much.
[18:27] <bedmunds> bakerj, I found it to be light....I don't know if Open Office is even on there at all. Even the menus are condensed (this is a big plus for me), The Systems/application menu are consolidated.
[18:40] <tempuser> Hi! I installed xubuntu 8.10 using desktop CD. I use old /home partition from Xubuntu 7.10. I had two user accounts there. I made the user account created in installation by same name as it was in old system, and imported both accounts when asked by the installation program. Still, I can't log in to the second account and it is not visible in the users and groups dialog. The respective directory is still there under /home. How can you 
[18:40] <gabkdlly> bakerj: open-office is not included
[18:40] <gabkdlly> bakerj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/xubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <gabkdlly> bakerj: that is an exhaustive list of what is included
[18:41] <gabkdlly> knome: I guess you could cat the entire DVD to /dev/null
[18:41] <bakerj> thanks
[18:43] <gabkdlly> tempuser: what happens when you try to log in?
[18:43] <tempuser> gabkdlly: I just installed xubuntu 8.10 (in Finnish language) using the desktop CD and after installation I have openoffice installed.
[18:44] <tempuser> gabkdlly: It says my password is wrong or something like that.
[18:44] <tempuser> gabkdlly: But I can't reset the password since the account is not visible in the dialog.
[18:45] <gabkdlly> tempuser: there is a graphical tool to manage accounts
[18:45] <gabkdlly> tempuser: I have never "imported" accounts myself, so I don't know how that works
[18:46] <gabkdlly> tempuser: as an administrator, you are able to reset the passwords of other accounts
[18:48] <gabkdlly> tempuser: Applications -> System -> Users and Groups
[18:50] <tempuser> gabkdlly: Yes, I tried that, but the account is not visible in the tool.
[18:51] <gabkdlly> tempuser: I suggest you create the user you want, and then chmod the folder you already have to that user
[19:00] <bedmunds> tempuser, did the account show up in the passwd file? (cat /etc/passwd)
[19:01] <bedmunds> NICK brandonban6
[19:01] <bedmunds> hmm
[19:03] <tempuser> gabkdlly: Why chmod? I think I'll have to rename the old directory temporarily.
[19:05] <bedmunds> tempuser, give the same group permissions, you shouldn't have to rename at all.
[19:05] <gabkdlly> tempuser: sorry, I meant chown
[19:12] <ranok> Hello, where might I find the minimum system reqs for Xubuntu?
[19:12] <ranok> (version 8.10)
[19:12] <ranok> I have a computer that I'm putting together
[19:12] <ranok> and I want to make sure there's plenty of memory/CPU left for applications w/o a major slowdown
[19:13] <bedmunds> Minimum system requirements
[19:13] <bedmunds> You need 128 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM at install time. To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk. Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 192 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM.
[19:13] <bedmunds> source: http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[19:13] <ranok> ah, thank you very much bedmunds
[19:14] <bedmunds> np
[19:14] <ranok> this is nice and lightweight
[19:14] <ranok> no bloated GNOME
[19:15] <bedmunds> for what its worth.........I just installed it on my old Dell Dimension 8400 and find it to be a screaming OS.........very fast. I love it.
[19:15] <ranok> ah, very good to hear
[19:15] <ranok> I want the OS to fade into the BG, leaving plenty of speed for my apps
[19:16] <gabkdlly> ranok: I have actually installed Xubuntu on a machine with 128MB of RAM, but it was pretty  much unusable whenever the database update was running in the background, since it would swap non-stop at those times
[19:17] <ranok> ah, ok
[19:17] <ranok> my computer should be fine, I just wanted to get a feel for how much resources it'll use up
[19:17] <naplesdragon> mine runs on 256MB ram
[19:18] <ranok> I'm going to install it on my new Core i7 machine with 6GB of DDR3 ram
[19:18] <bedmunds> yeah, my dell has a p4, 512 mb of RAM.
[19:18] <bedmunds> are you using the 64bit distro then?
[19:18] <ranok> yes
[19:19] <ranok> as long as it'll work with my GFX card
[19:19] <naplesdragon> well i installed for a friend ubuntu 8gb ram 64bit an P2
[19:19] <naplesdragon> and it runs perfekt
[19:20] <ranok> P2?
[19:20] <bedmunds> Sweet! I read somewhere that Xubuntu was the Xfce distro with 64bit support.
[19:20] <bedmunds> only*
[19:20] <naplesdragon> Phenom 2
[19:21] <ranok> yeah, I'm excited
[19:21] <zoredache> debian supports 64bit, and has xfce available in the repositories.
[19:21] <ranok> it's going to be a very speedy machine I hope
[19:21] <bedmunds> right, so it's not native....as xubuntu.
[19:24] <zoredache> bedmunds: if you say so...  xfce, kde, gnome, are all options that can be installed.  With lenny, one of the installer cd comes with primarily xfce packages
[19:28] <ranok> native is not a very good word for that
[19:34] <bedmunds> thanks zoredache, ranok you provoked my curiosity and went searching for where I read that, what it actually states "Additionally, Xubuntu is the only Xfce-based distribution with a native 64-bit architecture.", which is not what originally said above, so please allow me to retract my previous statement and I apologize for any confusion.
[19:34] <bedmunds> source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/About
[19:34] <bedmunds> Hey it's wiki that means 100% correct right?!?!? :P
[19:36] <zoredache> well, I think it was correct when it was last edited on 2008-8-6... But when lenny became stable a week ago, things changed
[19:37] <bedmunds> :) Someday I'll branch out to other distros.......but baby steps, I just left windows.
[19:45] <charlie-tca> zoredache: fixed that part
[19:46] <ranok> bedmunds: :)
[19:47] <rocko> hello charlie-tca how are you?
[19:49] <zoredache> charlie-tca: perhaps it should say '... was the first Xfce-based'?
[19:49] <zoredache> charlie-tca: I doubt it makes that much of a difference though...
[19:50] <charlie-tca> rocko: doing fine.
[19:50] <rocko> good
[19:50] <charlie-tca> zoredache: I'll think about it a bit. At least it is accurate now
[19:50]  * charlie-tca has issues with inaccuracies
[20:01] <sowdoggy> hi all, what package delivers python library pnkdf2
[20:01] <sowdoggy> pbkdf2 i mean
[20:02] <zoredache> nothing is showing up in search with apt-cache...   Their might not be a package
[20:03] <sowdoggy> hmm, thats too bad, I'm trying to use cnetworkmanager
[20:04] <zoredache> sowdoggy: if you are looking at (http://www.dlitz.net/software/python-pbkdf2/) the entire 'library' is a single file.  You should be able to simply download it and put it in somewhere that is in your pythonpath
[20:05] <sowdoggy> zoredache, ah thanks, ill give it a shot
[20:06] <zoredache> it will probably belong in /usr/lib/python2.5/
[20:06] <bedmunds> wow charlie-tca , thats a way to get things done!
[20:08] <zoredache> sowdoggy: There does seem to be a copy of pbkdf2.py is in cnetworkmanager git tree
[20:09] <sowdoggy> zoredache, git tree?
[20:10] <zoredache> sowdoggy: git is a version control system.  this http://repo.or.cz/w/cnetworkmanager.git?a=tree appears to be the 'official' location for cnetworkmanager
[20:12] <zoredache> somebody should package this.  it looks useful...
[20:13] <zoredache> about 8 months ago I was looking for something like this, except it didn't exist then.
[20:14] <sowdoggy> zoredache, spot on! the pbkdf2 works, thanks zoredache
[20:34] <xikkub> is there a taskkill terminal command in debian\xubuntu?
[20:35] <TheSheep> xikkub: what would it do?
[20:35] <xikkub> end tasks
[20:35] <xikkub> so i can end firefox
[20:35] <TheSheep> kill
[20:35] <TheSheep> and they are called processes
[20:36] <xikkub> how can i see the processes
[20:36] <xikkub> like get the pis
[20:36] <xikkub> pids
[20:36] <TheSheep> ps
[20:36] <knome> ps -A
[20:36] <TheSheep> ps x
[20:36] <TheSheep> :)
[20:36] <TheSheep> xikkub: you can also use gui-based System Monitor, it's under System
[20:37] <xikkub> i prefer terminal, thank you very much though
[20:37] <xikkub> i killed rick astley
[20:37] <TheSheep> rickrolls are annoying
[20:38] <TheSheep> you can also use top
[20:38] <TheSheep> for gui in terminal :)
[20:38] <knome> htop > top
[20:38] <TheSheep> knome: pfft
[20:39] <TheSheep> xikkub: don't listen to him, he's been brainwashed by the marketing department ;)
[20:39] <xikkub> lol k
[20:39] <xikkub> thanks guys
[20:39] <TheSheep> actually he *is* our marketing department ;)
[20:39] <knome> he left.
[20:43]  * charlie-tca thinks marketing could use a few more *good* people
[21:19] <xikkub> hola senoras
[21:26] <zoredache> are mouse pointers part of an application, part of the desktop enviroment, or part of xorg?  Specifically, how can I control the mouse pointer in something like xfce4-terminal?
[21:41] <Dillizar> how can i make a altered version of xubuntu and then make a live cd from it??
[21:49] <knome> !custom
[21:49] <knome> hmm..
[21:50] <knome> !remaster | Dillizar
[22:00] <Dillizar> knome, thats a lot dude :D hahaha a Lcars linux its on his way :D
[22:23] <Sw3RvE> i need help updating Transmission
[22:25] <knome> !update
[22:25] <knome> !source
[22:25] <knome> !building
[22:34] <Sw3RvE> http://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5604
[22:34] <Sw3RvE> can someone walk me through this? i dont know which parts i need and which i dont.
[22:35] <Sw3RvE> guys in the transmission channel arent much help besides the link. lol
[22:37] <LordNLptp> how do i get to any sort of network/wireless configuration dialog in xubuntu, or does such a thing not exist?
[22:37] <LordNLptp> i need to temporarily switch everything to dhcp after a local network gateway machine failed
[22:38] <charlie-tca> click the double computer in the panel
[22:51] <R1cochet> when i go to play a video i get a popup that says: "Failed to contact configuration server"
[22:52] <R1cochet> and when i try to open synaptic when it asks for password i type it in but it says that its incorrect
[22:54] <charlie-tca> The synaptic password should be your login password, but if you have more than one user, you have to have admin rights, too
[22:54] <R1cochet> its only me and it was working up till last night
[22:54] <R1cochet> i did clear my /tmp folder
[22:55] <brandonban6> R1cochet, .........this may sound like an odd question, but are you running likewise open by chance?
[22:55] <R1cochet> nope
[22:56] <brandonban6> ah good. and you can log in and off okay?
[23:00] <R1cochet> not sure i havent tried yet
[23:03] <brandonban6> weird. Do you have any broken packages? Anything that didn't install right or got hung up in the install?
[23:03] <R1cochet> not that im aware of
[23:05] <R1cochet> ill try to log in and out
[23:05] <R1cochet> brb
[23:05] <brandonban6> k
[23:07] <R1cochet> all seems well now
[23:08] <R1cochet> thank you
[23:08] <R1cochet> i just didnt want to log out and not be able to get back in. synaptic will open now so root password is working
[23:09] <brandonban6> sorry i disconnected myself, what happened?
[23:10] <brandonban6> so synaptic works, now you just can't play a video?
[23:10] <R1cochet> nope video is working also
[23:11] <R1cochet> i was getting an error when i would play a video, something about gconf, but the video would play.
[23:11] <R1cochet> but all seems well now
[23:11] <R1cochet> thank you much