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ubuntu__DaSkreech am noob. how do i ping?00:00
luc_no, nothing was mentioned in thhe manual, it`s a i know the game very well, i should be able to open it to tweaaaak the gamesetings00:00
DaSkreechping security.ubuntu.com00:01
DaSkreechluc_: what's your username ?00:01
luc_luc00:01
DaSkreechopen a konsole an type in sudo chown -R luc:luc /path/to/cs/server00:02
DaSkreechroot: Don't IRC as root00:02
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DaSkreechubuntu__: Do you get a response or no?00:02
ubuntu__DaSkreech  in firefox the site does not yet show up00:03
luc_like a terminnnnal or the run command from the menu00:03
ubuntu__it says connecting to00:03
miikthe next release will be called Kubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty Jackalope", and the next one after that will be called Kubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala"00:04
miikso then I will be running Kubuntu Karmic Koala (KKK)00:04
DaSkreechubuntu__: No on the konsole you are chrooted into type ping security.ubuntu.com It should come back with a listing of times00:04
DaSkreechOtherwise it will be quiet00:04
DaSkreechquiet is bad00:04
ubuntu__DaSkreech unknown host00:04
DaSkreechmiik: ^_^ Good observation00:04
ubuntu__DaSkreech it says the same for ping google.com00:05
miikyeah, i saw it on slashdot lol00:05
DaSkreechubuntu__: ping 194.9.77.500:05
Guest44345hola00:05
austin_i need help installing lmms....anyone?00:05
DaSkreechGuest44345: dont IRC as root00:06
ubuntu__DaSkreech zes00:06
ubuntu__yez00:06
ubuntu__yes00:06
DaSkreechubuntu__: That comes back with something?00:06
Guest44345hola00:06
ubuntu__Guest44345 Hola, existev ubuntu-es00:06
DaSkreechhola Guest4434500:06
ubuntu__DaSkreech yes, with some ms00:06
DaSkreechubuntu__: pastebin cat /etc/resolv.conf00:06
ubuntu__64 bztes from ....   xx ms00:06
ubuntu__DaSkreech>http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120794/00:08
ubuntu__DaSkreech> but it looked different when i was really on that system and tried sudo apt-get update  upgrate and dist-u[grade.  it showd many packages but then it sai 0 installed 0 reinstalled 0 deleted00:10
DaSkreechubuntu__: how do you get your network connectin ?00:10
alpha7anybody here use SCANNER!?00:11
alpha7i have a erro ' failed to start scanner : error during device i/o'00:11
ubuntu__ethernet cable00:11
ubuntu__to a cable modem00:11
ubuntu__wireless does not work on the live cd00:12
alpha7usb00:12
DaSkreechubuntu__: in the konsole do sudo dhclient then see if cat /etc/resolv.conf has changed00:13
DaSkreechalpha7: Does the scanner turn up in sudo lsusb ?00:13
alpha7wait so i have to type sudo lsusb?00:14
ubuntu__DaSkreech>   /proc/net/dev: No such file or directory00:14
alpha7DaSkreech http://paste.ubuntu.com/120798/00:15
DaSkreechalpha7: you don't HAVE to but it would be helpful00:15
DaSkreechubuntu__: Of course00:15
DaSkreechcan you browse in firefox on the live cd ?00:15
ubuntu__DaSkreech http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120799/00:15
compilerwriterDaSkreech now it is complaining about missing KDE Headers00:16
compilerwriterwhere might I find them00:16
alpha7DaSkreech so what now?00:16
ubuntu__DaSkreech yes, that|s how im accessing the pastebin00:16
alpha7its a a 1.1 root hub00:16
jordan_is there a way to "fool" ubuntu using a different driver then your printer you own?00:17
alpha7I really need to scan this document off to someone00:17
DaSkreechcompilerwriter: kde3 correct ?00:18
alpha7i 've try all scanners programs and its giving error00:18
DaSkreech!scanner | alpha700:18
ubottualpha7: Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR00:18
alpha7device busy or someone bs00:18
DaSkreechubottu:00:18
compilerwriterDaSkreech probably I am using KDE 4 at moment though.  Perhaps I need to reinstall the headers for KDE 300:18
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DaSkreechubuntu__: Of course :-) I forgot what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say from the Live CD? Does it have a line with a ip address ?00:19
DaSkreech!info kdelibs4-dev00:19
ubottukdelibs4-dev (source: kdelibs): development files for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu6 (intrepid), package size 1371 kB, installed size 7656 kB00:19
DaSkreechcompilerwriter: ^^^00:19
compilerwriterThanks DaSkreech00:20
ubuntu__DaSkreech> two lines callec nameserver and each having a distinct ip nu,mber00:20
ubuntu__starting with 62.4200:20
DaSkreechubuntu__: copy those to your chroot /etc00:20
DaSkreechyou can just nano /etc/resolv.conf in the chroot00:21
DaSkreechblessedbeef!00:22
ubuntu__ok00:22
ubuntu__done00:22
DaSkreechubuntu__: try the sudo apt-get update now00:22
ubuntu__ok00:23
ubuntu__running00:23
DaSkreechthen install kubuntu-desktop00:23
ubuntu__first line still says  sudo unable to resolve host ubuntu00:24
ubuntu__and now it|s stuck at 99 per cent00:24
DaSkreechok run the update again when done00:25
DaSkreechjust to be sure00:25
ubuntu__DaSkreech its stuck here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120801/00:25
DaSkreechctrl+c00:25
DaSkreechthen run it again00:26
ubuntu__DaSkreech could not connect errors00:26
ubuntu__i ran it again. first line> unable to resolve host ubuntu00:27
DaSkreechhmm00:27
DaSkreechcan you ping google.com ?00:27
compilerwriterWell DaSkreech I have gotten as far as being told to start make.  Now I am getting all sorts of compiler warnings but so far no aborts.00:28
ubuntu__DaSkreech zes00:29
ubuntu__yes00:29
DaSkreechubuntu__: but can't ping security.ubuntu.com ?00:29
ubuntu__DaSkreech http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120802/00:29
ubuntu__dunno, who do i cancel running ping_00:29
ubuntu__?00:29
DaSkreechctrl+c00:30
ubuntu__no, no ping00:30
DaSkreechurk00:30
ubuntu__DaSkreech maybe server down00:31
DaSkreechwell that might explain a lot00:31
DaSkreechmaybe00:31
ubuntu__but i tried it before00:31
DaSkreechtry ping a differnt region00:31
DaSkreechcan you ping ubuntu.com ?00:31
ubuntu__from konosle and it was not THAT problem. but it said that it did not install any new packages nor did it reinstall. so all was up to date00:32
ubuntu__ubuntu.com pings back00:32
DaSkreechubuntu__: or it couldn't see the server and didn't download anything00:32
ubuntu__but it had not said unable to find it, like now00:33
DaSkreechcan you ping archive.ubuntu.com ?00:33
ubuntu__DaSkreech   and after entering sudo apt.get install kubuntu-desktop it showed all the packages to be installed  liker okular and konqueror but said it wont install. and last line  E broken packages00:34
ubuntu__zes00:34
ubuntu__yes00:34
ubuntu__i can ping archivr.ubuntu.com00:34
DaSkreechok I'm trying to get back to that to find out what is broken00:34
DaSkreechubuntu__: but not security? hmm lets take that out00:35
DaSkreechnano /etc/apt/sources.list00:35
ubuntu__tough it sazs 64 bytes from prat.cannonical.com  and not archive.ubuntu.com00:35
DaSkreechput a # in front of lines that have security.ubuntu.com00:35
DaSkreechsave and then sudo apt-get update00:36
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ubuntu__in front of all the three?00:38
draik_DaSkreech: I have finished clearing up some space on a 500GB external. That should suffice the space for /home and /etc per your earlier request.00:38
DaSkreechany line that says security.ubuntu.com00:38
DaSkreechdraik_: backup00:39
draik_Any particular manner?00:40
ubuntu__DaSkreech http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120807/00:40
draik_cp ~ /media/500GB ?00:40
ubuntu__DaSkreech  all this is not the kernel, is it? because at startup it offers me also to boot from the previous kernel. this would not change a thing would it?00:43
DaSkreechubuntu__: Shouldn't00:43
ubuntu__damn00:43
DaSkreechdraik_: cp -Ra00:43
DaSkreechubuntu__: install kubuntu-desktop00:44
draik_DaSkreech: What about the apps I have installed?00:44
DaSkreechdraik_: you did any custom installs ?00:44
ubuntu__DaSkreech does not work. i told ypu00:44
DaSkreechok pastebin that00:45
draik_DaSkreech: Frostwire and virtualbox, IIRC00:45
draik_Uplink, too00:45
ubuntu__DaSkreech> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120809/00:45
DaSkreechdraik_: those aren't really custom00:46
draik_Sorry, don't know what you mean by custom then, DaSkreech00:46
ubuntu__that was also the erro i got before on console without live cd00:46
asobianyway for amarok to calculate total length of collection without having to insert collection into playlist?00:47
draik_DaSkreech: Do I have to be root for the cp?00:47
DaSkreechdraik_: only if you restricted /media/500GB to root only00:47
DaSkreechubuntu__: good00:48
ubuntu__good?00:48
draik_DaSkreech: I'm on the LiveCD00:48
ubuntu__i  cant use my computer anymore and i cant recover it be reinstalling kde and thats good???00:48
DaSkreechdraik_: actually wih -a it makes no difference00:48
DaSkreechubuntu__: good that I'm sure this is exactly what you were seein00:48
ubuntu__im near breakdown here00:48
ubuntu__ah00:49
DaSkreech what happens when you do suo apt-get install ark ?00:49
ubuntu__DaSkreech unable to resolve host ubuntu00:49
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ubuntu__DaSkreech and also E broken Packages00:50
DaSkreech>_<00:50
DaSkreechyou seem to have a network issue00:50
ubuntu__http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120811/00:50
ubuntu__but i can connect to irc here on live cd and surf with firefox00:51
DaSkreechThat's the live cd not your install00:51
ubuntu__ok00:51
ubuntu__and what can i do?00:51
ubuntu__but i can ping many sites00:52
DaSkreechi know00:52
DaSkreechtrying to figure it out00:52
ubuntu__i can even do lynx google.com  on the installed system00:53
ubuntu__ok00:53
ubuntu__thank you, DaSkreech00:53
DaSkreechcan you sudo apt-get install yakuake on the live cd ?00:53
draik_DaSkreech: I got a few Input/output errors from cp.00:54
draik_DaSkreech: cannot acces, cannot stat00:55
ubuntu__no00:55
ubuntu__http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120813/00:55
DaSkreechdraik_: ok00:55
ubuntu__but it does not say that host cannot be resolved00:55
ubuntu__mazbe some authentication issue?00:55
ubuntu__maybe00:56
ubuntu__here it only says package not found00:56
DaSkreechtry irssi00:56
DaSkreechoh right00:56
ubuntu__downloading00:56
DaSkreechdo sudo apt-get update first :-)00:56
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DaSkreechhmm00:56
DaSkreechok00:56
DaSkreechsoooooo00:56
ubuntu__downloaded and installed irssi00:56
DaSkreechsomething is issuing with the install?00:56
ubuntu__also i had to install xchat before00:57
DaSkreechok try that from the chroot00:57
ubuntu__issuing?00:57
ubuntu__whcih xchat or irssi?00:57
DaSkreechirssi00:57
draik_DaSkreech: Is that ok? What should I do to make sure the copy is successful without issues?00:58
ubuntu__irsii downloading00:58
DaSkreechserious?00:58
ubuntu__but an error00:58
ubuntu__http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120816/00:59
DaSkreechdraik_: at the end du -sh the copy and the original00:59
gregerhi, installed kubuntu and tried to upgrade, bad things happend, apt-errors, what do i do now00:59
ubuntu__DaSkreech and still the unable to resolve host ubuntu message00:59
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DaSkreechubuntu__: thats what I mean abou issuing01:00
ubuntu__on the installed kubuntu, none on live cd konsole01:00
ubuntu__on installed it issued it and said it cannot write log as soemthing is not mounted. but it appears to have installed itssi01:01
DaSkreechubuntu__: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list01:02
draik_DaSkreech: Input/output errors when I try to du -sh the original01:03
DaSkreechdraik_: >_<01:04
ubuntu__DaSkreech   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120817/01:04
DaSkreechok do a fsck on the drive01:04
draik_The original drive is at /mnt01:04
ubuntu__i suppose that was fro draik01:04
draik_DaSkreech: sudo fsck /mnt         is that right?01:05
draik_DaSkreech: sudo fsck /dev/sda1  ----------- fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda101:07
DaSkreechdraik_: /dev01:07
DaSkreechdraik_: Woah01:07
DaSkreechthe filesystem has a discrepancy01:07
draik_It's also ext3 if that matters01:08
DaSkreechfsck.ext3 then01:08
draik_OK01:08
draik_Same01:08
DaSkreechubuntu__: ok I have no idea why you are getting that ubuntu ca't resolve error01:08
DaSkreechdraik_: Yeah the filesystem expects to be a certain size and it's not reporting that01:09
ubuntu__DaSkreech and that includes that theres no way to get the system back up?01:09
DaSkreechubuntu__: I don't know yet I can't figure out what's wrong01:09
ubuntu__ok01:10
DaSkreechso sudo apt-get install irssi works but sudo apt-get install kwrite doesn't work ?01:10
ubuntu__i ll trz kwrite01:10
ubuntu__as you say it01:10
ubuntu__unmet dependencies01:10
ubuntu__and broken packages01:11
ubuntu__http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120818/01:11
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DaSkreechcan you install kdebase-runtime ?01:14
ubuntu__no01:14
ubuntu__same error01:14
DaSkreechunmet dependinces?01:15
ubuntu__yes01:15
ubuntu__and broken packages01:15
ubuntu__and unable to resolve host01:15
compilerwriterWell DaSkreech I somehow clobbered my existing installation.  Hopefully I can simply uninstall and reinstall the package and get back on track.01:15
ubuntu__DaSkreech    kdebase-runtime: Depends: kde-icons-oxygen (>= 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but it is not going to be installed01:16
DaSkreech:-)01:16
ubuntu__DaSkreech but seems i can install these icons01:16
DaSkreechcan you install kdebase-runtime after that?01:17
ubuntu__0 upgraded, 1 newlz installed  2 to remove01:17
ubuntu__ok, ill proceed then and see if i can01:17
ubuntu__yes01:18
ubuntu__19 mb01:18
ubuntu__though still issuing host resolution problem01:18
ubuntu__and no logfiel writing possible as to something not being mounted01:19
ubuntu__/dev/pts01:19
DaSkreechyeah I know the log file01:19
draik_DaSkreech: I thought of something...01:19
DaSkreechyou have no /dev so it can't write01:19
ubuntu__so nothing to worry about?01:19
DaSkreechthats fine01:19
ubuntu__ok01:19
draik_the 500GB still has space for the backup if I revert back to the way it was01:19
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ubuntu__its installed now01:19
DaSkreechit will go away on reboot01:19
DaSkreechok01:20
ubuntu__now install kde-desktop?01:20
DaSkreechtry ark01:20
ubuntu__works01:20
DaSkreechtry kubuntu-desktop01:20
draik_DaSkreech: What if I put the space of 350GB back onto the 500GB, format the 1TB, then copy over the contents from /home and /etc from the partition?01:20
ubuntu__ldconfi deferred processing now taking place is no error?01:20
ubuntu__its the last it says01:20
DaSkreechdraik_: maybe I'm not ruling out the drive dying01:21
ubuntu__DaSkreech ok, says unmet dep. phonon=backend=xine  i will try installing it first01:21
DaSkreechok try something smaller try kdebase-plasma01:22
DaSkreechright01:22
DaSkreechok01:22
ubuntu__palsma depends on many others01:22
ubuntu__kdebase-runtime for example01:23
DaSkreechok01:23
DaSkreechgo lower01:23
ubuntu__tried kdebase-runtime  and it tells me again kde-icons-oxzgen needed01:24
ubuntu__but i just installed them01:24
ubuntu__installing again says 0 of 13 MB must be dowloaded01:25
DaSkreechooook01:25
ubuntu__im walking in circles01:25
ubuntu__hum01:25
ubuntu__but now kdebase-runtime worked01:25
ubuntu__what now?01:25
draik_I have no problem returning the drive and getting a new one01:26
ubuntu__ay, my head is aching. 2 26 am here  ...01:26
DaSkreechtry konqueror01:27
draik_From the sound/look of things, I would agree with you DaSkreech. It may be dying even though it's 2 weeks old to the day.01:27
DaSkreechdraik_: return it under warranty01:27
draik_DaSkreech: I also know that new =/= perfect.01:28
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draik_Once this backup is done, I'm going to format the HDD and then return it01:28
ubuntu__for each package there are many unmet dependencies also for konqueror01:28
ubuntu__im losing overview01:29
ubuntu__and the kde-icons-oxygen i have installed now three times01:30
DaSkreechubuntu__: Something is seriously wrong01:31
DaSkreechrun irssi01:31
DaSkreechsee if it's installed01:31
DaSkreechirssi -c irc.frenode.net01:31
ubuntu__ok, managed to get to install some packages, one of them three times, one twice - xine01:32
ubuntu__now i got konqueror to be installed01:32
DaSkreechoook01:33
ubuntu__kdebase-data kdebase=bin, and kdebase-runtime too01:33
DaSkreechubuntu__: are they in /var/cache/apt/archives try ls /var/cache/apt/archives/k*01:34
ubuntu__yes01:34
m_tadeuhi all....can anyone confirm if gmail is down?01:34
DaSkreechok try sudo apt-get install --download-only kubuntu-desktop01:35
ubuntu__http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120820/01:35
ubuntu__does not work01:36
ubuntu__DaSkreech http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120821/01:36
ubuntu__i alreadz installed phonon backend xine twice now01:36
ubuntu__i try thir time01:37
ubuntu__third01:37
ubuntu__no01:38
ubuntu__DaSkreech http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/120824/01:38
DaSkreechubuntu__: Do you know how to use irssi ?01:41
ubuntu__no01:42
ubuntu__what is it?01:42
ubuntu__am pretty noob01:43
DaSkreechit's a irc client01:43
DaSkreech in your chroot type irssi -c irc.freenode.net01:43
shelbyI installed Kubuntu 8.10 and on restart I get GRUB Loading Stage 1.5 Error 2, then it freezes. Any ideas on how to fix it?01:45
DaSkreechubuntu__: when it connects try typing /join #kubuntu01:46
ubuntu__i should use irssii01:46
ubuntu__?01:46
DaSkreechTry it01:46
DaSkreechirssi -c irc.freenode.net01:46
DaSkreechthen /join #kubuntu01:47
shelbyCan anyone help me?01:47
Steelyvery quick question ... i tried upgrading the 8.10 release to 4.2 a couple weeks ago using the ppa version and ran into several problems with dependencies such as plasma3, has all this been sorted out since ?01:47
ubuntu__how do i exit. i had already tried opening it without server option01:47
ubuntu__ctrl c doesnt work01:48
m_tadeuSteely: if your talking about some plasmoids, nop01:48
DaSkreechSteely: I guess01:48
DaSkreechubuntu__: /quit01:48
DaSkreechubuntu__: or just type /server irc.freenode.net01:49
Steelyit was more than plasmoids, i ended up with at least a desktop but without title bars and keyboard no longer worked01:49
m_tadeuSteely: all the rest is working just fine ;)01:49
rootam in01:49
m_tadeuI'm using it for some weeks now01:49
ubuntu__root is me01:50
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DaSkreechroot: ok01:50
Guest34716so i have netowork here01:50
Steelythank you m_tadeu , so just remove plasmoids before that upgrade and all should be fine, btw alpha 4 is looking very promising01:50
Guest34716mz name was changed01:50
Guest34716i used to be root01:51
DaSkreechYou shouldn't IRC as root01:51
DaSkreechit forced a name change01:51
DaSkreechubuntu__: Ok when you don't use the Live Cd can you get toa text interface in kubuntu ?01:51
Guest34716konsole yes01:52
Guest34716nano01:52
shelbyCan anyone help with the GRUB boot problem?01:52
Guest34716i think01:52
DaSkreechok01:52
DaSkreech!grub | shelby01:52
ubottushelby: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:52
Guest34716i used it from here the nano thing u told me01:52
DaSkreechGuest34716: Can you reboot without the livee cd and login there01:53
Guest52140ubottu: you typically gotta install windows first then anything else01:53
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:53
DaSkreechthen do irssi -c irc.freenode.net and come here ?01:53
radistрусские есть?01:53
DaSkreech!ru01:53
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke01:53
Guest34716ok01:54
ubuntu__i will try01:54
DaSkreechubuntu__: ok01:54
Guest34716&quit01:55
andyhi01:58
andyam back01:58
andyi was ubuntu__, root and soem guest before01:58
andynow without live cd and with my correct keyboard01:58
andy:-)01:58
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DaSkreechandy: Yay01:58
DaSkreechDoes sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop still give that crazy error?01:59
andyunluckily i cannot open another window here in order to do all the sudo stuff01:59
DaSkreechoh01:59
DaSkreechyou can01:59
andyhow?01:59
DaSkreechlisten to me first01:59
andyok01:59
DaSkreechLinux has multiple terminals01:59
DaSkreechyou are on terminal one01:59
DaSkreechThe gui is normally at terminal 702:00
andyah, ok02:00
andyand how to change between em?02:00
DaSkreechyou can switch between them with alt+ctrl+Fn02:00
DaSkreechFo terminal one is alt+ctrl+F102:00
DaSkreechTerminal 2 is alt+ctrl+F202:00
andyok02:00
DaSkreechGo to terminal 2 and come back here02:00
andynow I'm on one02:00
andyok02:00
andyback02:01
DaSkreechok login to terminal 2 and you can do sudo stuff02:01
DaSkreechdoes install kubuntu-desktop still say all that stuff ?02:02
andyyes02:02
andybroken packages02:03
DaSkreechok02:03
andyunmet dependencies02:03
andyonly all in German now02:03
DaSkreechcan you install the phonon-xine twice still?02:03
andy'ill see02:04
draik_What is that package, DaSkreech? I was about to install phonon-xine but it would have removed quite a few of the apps that I use constantly; one of which would have been Yakuake.02:04
andyi can run it once. it says nothing downloaded. if i run it a second time right after it it says02:05
andyi should use apt.get autoremove02:05
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DaSkreechok do that02:05
andycannot scroll up02:06
andyok, autoremoving 13 MB02:06
andydone02:07
andyctrl alt f7 does n ot work02:07
DaSkreechandy: shift+PgUp to scroll up02:08
DaSkreechandy: I Know it's broken02:08
andyDaSkreech  shift PgUp doesn't work here02:08
andywell, maybe i won't need it02:08
DaSkreechandy: In terminal 202:08
andyi tried in t202:09
andynotthin02:09
DaSkreechStrange02:09
DaSkreechok02:09
DaSkreechso you can't install phonon-xine thign again ?02:09
andyis already latest version it states02:10
DaSkreech\o/02:10
DaSkreechprogress02:10
andyi wanna commit suicide02:10
DaSkreechyeah this is annoying02:10
DaSkreechI don't even know why it's happening02:11
DaSkreechok so you can install konqueror?02:11
andyit's past three am and gotta get up at 6:3002:11
andyI'll try02:11
DaSkreechandy: I know that's why I got you to reboot to stop that reinstall thing02:11
MidnightDevilhi02:12
andydepends on  libkonq5  depends on kdebase-runtime depends on the icons02:12
DaSkreechok install them all at one time02:13
andywhy can't it autmatically install all of it dependencies.02:13
DaSkreechsudo apt-get install icons kdebase-runtime libkonq502:13
andy?02:13
andydon't know if i know all of them02:13
DaSkreechandy: It should I don't know what's breaking it02:13
DaSkreechandy: you can use tab to autocomplete02:14
DaSkreechso apt-get ins<tab> kdebase-<tab>02:14
DaSkreechyou can install multiple things at one time as well02:14
DaSkreechso install all of them in one go02:14
andyI think i found the error!!!02:14
DaSkreechok02:15
DaSkreechWhats it?02:15
andyand it explains why i had to install several times the same02:15
DaSkreechWhat is it?02:16
andyphonon-backend-xine collides with kde-icons-oxygen but Oubuntu 1*intrepid1 shall be installed02:16
andysorry, cannot copy so I had to type and swtich between screens02:16
DaSkreechyeah02:16
andybut it appears that it needs both xine and icons02:17
DaSkreechyou can They collide ?02:17
andyI know the theme or style was called oxygen02:17
DaSkreechThey collide ?02:17
DaSkreechYeah02:17
andyand problem occured after xine upgrade02:17
DaSkreechbut they shouldn't collide02:17
draik_DaSkreech: I couldn't transfer the contents to the 500GB as it was not listed by gparted. I am in XP now. PartitionMagic says it is 100% full. Linux Reader by DiskInternals shows it but not as 100% full.02:17
andyit says they collide.02:17
DaSkreechI know02:18
DaSkreechhmm02:18
andyin German: following packages have unment dependencies: phonon and xine collide02:18
DaSkreechWhen you install both they say its problem02:18
DaSkreechok02:18
andyumnet*02:18
DaSkreechhold on02:18
andyi hold02:18
DaSkreechsudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:18
andydone02:19
andy0 0 0 002:19
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DaSkreechok02:19
andyups02:20
andyam i still here?02:20
DaSkreechyes02:21
andyit now says here in irssi Reloading Common Unix Printing System: cupsd02:21
andyi tried all ctrl alt F  until i got to f902:21
andydunno what this is02:22
DaSkreechOh thats fine :-)02:22
andyah, ok02:22
andyi was worried02:22
elizabethgood nite 2 u all peopple02:22
andywell, at least on sudo apt-get install i don't get the host resolution problem anymore02:23
DaSkreechok quick in terminal 2 type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start02:23
DaSkreechelizabeth: Night02:23
andyshould i reenable the security.ubuntu.com?02:23
DaSkreechandy: When stuff works02:23
andyno such file or directory.  already running02:24
andythats what it says02:24
andyhi elizabeth!02:24
DaSkreechWhat?02:24
andyyes02:24
DaSkreechno such file ?02:24
andyalready running in new line02:25
DaSkreechHmm02:25
andyno wait02:25
DaSkreech type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop02:25
andyay if only i could copy02:25
DaSkreechyou can install pastebinit02:25
andywait02:25
DaSkreechthen pastebinit command02:25
khalidmianis wubi install of kubunturecommended or is it recoomended that one install it via grub also is there any difference?02:26
andySarting K Display manager: kdm-start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/bin/kdm: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)02:26
andyalready running02:26
DaSkreechkhalidmian: Whichever you are comfortable with02:27
DaSkreechandy: So something removed kde02:27
DaSkreechok02:27
DaSkreechHmm02:27
andypastebinit command not found02:27
DaSkreechif you try instal the phonon and the icons on the same line what does it say?02:28
khalidmianDaSKREECH so it makes no difference whatsoever?02:28
khalidmianjust a matter of choice?02:28
andy.../kdm stop Stopping K Dipslay manager: kdm not running (var/run/kdm.pid not found)02:28
DaSkreechkhalidmian: Yes02:29
DaSkreechandy: Yeah it's not installed02:29
andykhalidmian i'd recommend an installtion to separate partition instead of wubi for wubi can kill your vista if kubuntu hangs on startup or shutdown and you power off02:29
khalidmiandaskreech why do ppl preech grub install vs wubi?02:29
DaSkreechMore flexibilty in how much space it takes up02:31
DaSkreech>slightly> faster02:31
andyit says xine already latest version: not all can be installed. collide xine and phonon02:31
DaSkreechxine and phonon ?02:31
DaSkreech???02:31
andywait02:31
andyno02:31
andyicons02:32
andysorry02:32
andymy brain stops working02:32
andyE: broken packages02:32
khalidmianthankyo ufor all recommendation i have perviously tried grub and wubi and find wubi easier to deal with incase i have major issues with kubuntu wubi allows me to uninstall and reinstall it easily02:32
khalidmianthanks kubuntu teammates02:32
DaSkreechandy: ok02:32
DaSkreechandy: sudo apt-get clean02:33
andydone02:33
DaSkreechapt-cache policy phonon-backend-xine02:33
andyI had probs with wubi. Installation was really easy but so was real partition isntallation. And finally it did screw up my vista. dirty fs. i could fix it and then agian start the ntfs based ubuntu, but vista never recovered02:34
DaSkreechjust tell me installed version and suggested version02:35
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andyok, done that02:35
andysays it's installed02:35
andyinstalled version 4:4.3.002:35
DaSkreechok do the same for icons02:36
andy-0ubuntu1~intrepid102:36
andyand recommended does not exist. it says candidate in German. maybe it's the same. it's the same version02:37
andynow icons02:37
DaSkreechSame I have02:37
andyinstalled none candidate 4.1.402:37
DaSkreechandy: ok mine is 4.2.002:38
andymaybe a bug with 4.1.402:38
DaSkreechWhich are you running KDE 4.1 ?02:38
DaSkreechOr 4.2 ?02:39
andycurrently ?02:39
andynone02:39
andy:-(02:39
andy4.1.402:39
DaSkreechok02:39
DaSkreechhmm02:39
andyis what it used to be until yesterniter02:39
andyyesternite02:39
DaSkreechsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:40
DaSkreechat the bottom add this02:40
DaSkreechdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main02:40
DaSkreechsave and then sudo apt-get update02:41
andyok, GPG Error some keys could not be checked02:43
DaSkreechoh02:43
DaSkreechI'll fix that when stuf works02:43
andyno_pubkey02:43
DaSkreechinstall kubuntu-desktop02:43
DaSkreechsame error?02:44
andyafter this operation 343MB of additional space will be occupied02:44
DaSkreechok02:44
andyinstall non-authicable packages?02:44
DaSkreechyes02:44
elizabethhello guys  again02:45
DaSkreechyes02:45
andyhi liz02:45
DaSkreechhi elizabeth02:45
WalzmynIf I installed googleearth manually from google's download (ie not the repo) how would I go about un-installing it?02:45
andyDaSkreech ok, seems I gotta trust you02:45
andy;-)02:45
DaSkreech:)02:45
andydownloading02:45
DaSkreechWalzmyn: I forget whats the intall of google earth?02:46
DaSkreech.bin ?02:46
andyok, hope this will get the system back running02:46
andyonly that all my config will be gone :-(02:46
WalzmynDaSkreech, yes, but there appears to be no uninstall built in02:46
andy19% done02:46
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NigelSWalzmyn: there's a file called "uninstall" in the google earth installation directory02:46
DaSkreech^^^02:46
WalzmynNigelS, emm, where's the installation directory?02:47
andyor will config still be found in /home?02:47
Luijahello guys02:47
NigelSWalzmyn: well, whereever you told it to go when you installed it by doing so manually02:47
Luijai have a question02:47
Luijai have a computer of 200002:47
andyI only know that this kde prob affected all users not only my user account02:47
* Walzmyn wishes he remembered where that was02:47
Luijaand i was thinking02:47
Luijashould i install in that pc02:47
Luijaxubuntu or kubuntu?02:48
DaSkreechandy: oh thats bad02:48
NigelSWalzmyn: in your home directory perhaps? in a dir called google earth?02:48
andyDaSkreech: bad? why?02:48
WalzmynNigelS, whatever the default was. It was not in /home - i'll hunt for it02:48
Luijano one knows???02:48
NigelSWalzmyn: by default the install puts a link to the binary in your home dir, so check that out for the path02:48
andyLuija: Try it.02:48
Luija...02:49
Luijabut by experience02:49
Luijafor a old computer02:49
Luijaof the 20002:49
NigelSWalzmyn: if you're removing it because of the library error btw, just delete the library from the install dir and it'll run02:49
Luija200002:49
Luijai should install kubuntu or xubuntu?02:49
andyLuija personally I still don't have that much experience. Only tried ubuntu and kubuntu, no xubuntu. but I think kubuntu should run there02:49
DaSkreechandy: It broke for everyone02:50
elizabethi like to ask for help to a network expert in here, u c,i have installed Kubuntu Intrepid on my laptop(COMPAQ PRESARIO V3000 SERIES MODEL V3417LA) the thing is that Kubuntu DOES NOT recognize at all the wireless card wich by the way with windows works fine(BROADCOM 802.11 sp39912.exe "DRIVER"), there has been several nice guys in here that really did they best to help me configure the system so it recognize my wireless card02:50
Luijai am expanding linux because one uncle tell me he wanted to test linux because she see my kubuntu in my laptop lol02:50
elizabethbut everything so fas has failed, IS THERE SOMEONE HERE WILLING AND eperienxed enough that can help me PLEASE I BEG U HELP??????????????????02:50
NigelSWalzmyn: in fact if you followed the default options then "ls -l ~/googleearth" should show where the dir is02:50
Walzmynthank you NigelS02:50
andyDaSkreech actually we're just two ones using it. me and my flatmate. But that makes me think that maybe the configs that are saved in /home/username/.kde  should be unaffected02:51
andywell, I'll see02:51
WalzmynNigelS, so this thing: /usr/lib32/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8: - you're saying delete that library?02:51
NigelSWalzmyn: no, don't touch that02:51
NigelSWalzmyn: the problem it had was with the library it has in its own dir, with that missing it falls back on the system library you just pasted which does work fine it seems02:51
andyDaSkreech ok, now i have a blue screnn02:52
andyconfigure mysql.server 5.002:52
WalzmynNigelS, it says it's got a relocation error02:52
andyi need a pw for it?02:52
DaSkreech!broadcom | elizabeth02:52
andydon't even know what it is02:52
ubottuelizabeth: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:52
elizabethor does any of u guys knows abouta channel where02:52
Walzmynandy you can, but it's not nessacary02:52
DaSkreechandy: You don't need a pw02:53
DaSkreechblank works02:53
NigelSWalzmyn: it gives an error in which state..after a fresh install or after something has been altered? for me GE would not run with version 5.0 until the libssl.so.0.9.8 in its actual install dir (not the system lib) is missing - after that GE ran fine, without errors02:54
andyDaSkreech I think, Elizabeth's card waasn't even recognized by system and was not shown with normal list device cammnads02:54
trepan_anyone know how to install libdirect in intrepid?  was trying to compile something and got "checking for libdirect... configure: error: *** libdirect 1.1.0 or newer is required.       "02:54
elizabethANDY thats exactly what iam saying02:54
elizabethKubuntu wont even notice the exisitence of the wireless card02:55
WalzmynNigelS, ok, sounds good. I will try that. I was going to uninstall/reinstall because the first time i didn't pay any attention to the options02:55
andyDaSkreech it asked me now for the third time for the same new pw. i leave it blank it unpacks lotsa packages and returns to same blue screen. That normal?02:56
andyDaSkreech: ok, it ended02:56
Walzmynandy yes02:56
andyWalzmyn: ok, thx02:56
andynow i try starx?02:56
andyi better ask, before i screw it all up again02:57
andyI should not be allowed to ever use a computer02:57
DaSkreechelizabeth: it's not in lspci ?02:57
DaSkreechandy: I think02:57
DaSkreechandy: no02:57
elizabethno02:57
andyDaSkreech: no, it's not. She showed it yesterday02:57
DaSkreechsudo /etc/init.d/kdm start02:58
elizabethlike i said Kubuntu didnt even notice the phisicall existence of it02:58
andyDaSkreech too late. already did startx. seems to work02:58
andyI love you DaSkreech02:59
DaSkreechandy: alt+ctrl+F2 and ctrl+c02:59
DaSkreechthen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start02:59
elizabethso what that command for DaSk???03:00
DaSkreechelizabeth: Something is wrong then you need a kernel module for it03:00
DaSkreechelizabeth: Read the link ubottu gave you03:00
elizabethoppsss03:00
andyDaSkreech: from where ctrl alt f2  or f7 ?03:00
andyah03:00
andysorry03:00
DaSkreechandy: F203:00
andyxinit unexpected signal03:01
elizabethhow do i get that kernel modul?03:01
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DaSkreechelizabeth: Read the link ubottu gave you03:01
elizabeththe link  u gave me stands for lspci and it goes frome there but i dont even get the reconition of my wireless card03:02
WalzmynNigelS, thanyouverymuch. That solved the not running problem03:02
andyDaSkreech: I'm in KDE!!! :-)03:02
DaSkreechandy: cool03:02
DaSkreechnight03:02
andyDaSkreech trying to migrate ressource. Success03:02
user1_?03:02
Walzmyncongrats, andy03:02
andyDaSkreech: Than you very much!!!03:03
Rieshandy: go to bed :-)03:03
andyDaSkreech Thanks03:03
andy:-)03:03
bazhang!yay | andy03:03
ubottuandy: Glad you made it! :-)03:03
andyI owe you one03:03
NigelSWalzmyn: np, now you can see atlantis ;)03:03
andyi really hope you're somewhere in US or elsewhere where it's not that late!03:04
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DaSkreechandy: It's 22:0503:05
andythe only thing not present is the internet connection show thing but maybe after reboot. if not, it's a task for another day.03:05
DaSkreechandy: night03:05
andyDaSkreech: 04:05 am03:05
andyDaSkreech Thanks again. good nite03:05
andybye room!03:06
WalzmynNigelS, really?03:06
Walzmynnow that i've got googleearth running, i've got a bunch of places (like in menues) where text is crunched over itself, is that a linux/kde error or a googleearth error?03:06
DaSkreech!purekde | Luija03:08
ubottuLuija: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »03:08
NigelSWalzmyn: with tongue firmly in cheek -- http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=31.480209,-24.120483&spn=2.988616,5.026245&t=h&z=803:09
NigelSWalzmyn: programs run with wine tend not to look very nice unfortunately and google earth isn't native to linux03:10
bazhang!googleearth03:10
ubottuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository03:10
WalzmynNigelS, this thing is running in wine?03:16
DaSkreechyeah03:17
WalzmynThe repo version wouldn't work, s'why I downloaded the manual version03:18
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cyrisenthola !03:19
NigelSWalzmyn: actually it's not03:19
NigelSWalzmyn: I hadn't used it for so long until this version that I never noticed that they ported it03:19
DaSkreech!hi03:19
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:19
Walzmynah ha03:19
cyrisenthi !03:19
uzlinux!hi03:20
NigelSWalzmyn: when i saw the same corruption that you see I thought it was just running badly - but now I don't know why the text overlaps03:20
uzlinuxhmm03:20
Luija!purexfce03:20
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »03:20
Luijanice, thx ubottu lol03:20
WalzmynI blame the marcians - they're made 'cause googles showing pics of their planet03:21
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draik_DaSkreech: backup of /home and /etc is finally done. Did it within XP using Linux Reader.03:30
draik_DaSkreech: How do I get the list of packages that are currently installed03:31
draik_DaSkreech: What do you suggest now?03:31
DaSkreechumm hold on03:32
draik_Sure03:32
DaSkreechdraik_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/backup-installed-packages-on-ubuntu.html03:35
wayne__I'm lost!!!03:35
DaSkreechwayne__: You are on the internet03:36
draik_DaSkreech: Awesome. That should definitely work03:36
wayne__I know that much...using "Konversation" and thought it was another app that I have but can't seem to find now...03:36
wayne__Using Kubuntu operating system and am a newbie...03:37
DaSkreechWelcome to Linux and Kubuntu03:38
wayne__Trying to find the app that was sort of like Instant messenger in style, and had my friends info in it...can't seem to find it now...03:38
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DaSkreechKopete03:38
DaSkreechwayne__: press alt+f2 then type in instant messenger03:39
wayne__I love that name:  [BAB]Sugar_Fanta03:39
wildbati wish Kopete have pc-pc audio soon >.<03:39
DaSkreechIt will list the instant messengers you have installed03:39
wayne__Thanks!!! That was it...03:40
draik_DaSkreech: format the drive and then move /home and /etc back to the new install of Ibex?03:40
DaSkreechDarkriftX: Yeah03:41
wayne__Say, when I right click on my friends icon and look at the list, email is "deselected", how do I activate that?03:41
draik_DaSkreech:  I suppose that was for me ;)03:41
DaSkreechwayne__: Install kmail03:42
wayne__sorry to be so dense, but "how I doo dat?"03:42
DaSkreechopen a konsole and sudo apt-get install kmail03:43
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wayne__And if I install it, will it affect my installation of "Evolution" for my email?03:43
Azzcowayne__, you can slo use Adept, with Alt+F2, adept. That will bring up a graphical packa manager or a installer (there's two options).03:43
Azzcoalso*, sorry bout that typo.03:44
wayne__When I tried to use Adept I got:03:45
wayne__Could not obtain a write lock on the cache, falling back to read-only mode. You won't be able to install, remove or upgrade packages. However, you can still search in the package database and browse packages.03:45
wayne__You apparently do not have sufficient permissions to install or remove programs. You may need to run this program as user root (or through kdesudo) to gain write access.03:45
wayne__How did I loose and how do I get back the "permission" to use my computer?03:46
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Azzcowayne__, you probably have apt-get running in a terminal, you can only have one package manager application running with full permissions, at a time.03:48
wayne__All I have running right now is Firefox, Kopete, and Kubuntu Knoversation...03:50
draik_DaSkreech: Thanks for all the help you've given me. I'm about to go through the install right now.03:50
Azzcowayne__, it should ask for your root password. =s03:52
wayne__it did...but after I input my password I got the above text.03:54
DaSkreechwayne__: use kdesudo adept03:54
DaSkreechdraik_: ok03:55
wayne__I did the terminal and "sudo" thingy...then went to Kopete and it is the same...03:55
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InfernoLinuxI have kubuntu 8.10 kde4 on my laptop. its been working fine but i ran out of disk space so i went into windows and shrank the win partition, i did not modify the etx3 partition or the swap. now Xserver wont start what do i do04:00
AzzcoInfernoLinux. If you have the home folder in your root partition, you can use a terminal to delete a few files in your home that you won't miss, and reboot (holding your thumb of course).04:01
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: Run sudo apt-get clean04:02
InfernoLinuxgrab failed, preinit returned null for mac mouse button emulation, config/hal newinputdevicerequest failed, grab failed, preinit for apple computer apple internal keyboard /trackpad, newinputdevicerequest failed,   waiting for xserver to shutdown04:02
InfernoLinuxThanks, I deleted 3gb of extracted files from the desktop and now itll run04:07
InfernoLinuxmuch appriciated04:08
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DaSkreechInfernoLinux: Run sudo apt-get clean04:08
InfernoLinuxstill? why04:08
DaSkreechIt gets rid of stuff that you likely won't need for years04:10
DaSkreechautoclean gets rid of stuff it knows you won't need04:10
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech: thanks04:11
DaSkreechFirst thing I do when I start running out of space04:11
InfernoLinuxanother thing, When you type to me its red, is that just because you type myname: messege  or is it something else04:12
DaSkreechjust cause I type your name04:12
DaSkreechInferno04:12
DaSkreechInfernoLinu04:12
DaSkreechInfernoLinux04:12
DaSkreechSee ?04:12
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech: works?04:12
DaSkreechYes04:13
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech: cool04:13
DaSkreechMakes it easy to see people who talk to you04:13
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech: any idea why my laptop wifi connection is really iffy. sometimes it connects sometimes it doesn't. always connects on win though04:14
Admiral_Chicagomight be a driver issue...depends on the version of kubuntu, the device etc.04:14
JoelitoHi...where can I talk about QT development on freenode?04:14
InfernoLinuxhmmm. I have tried a bunch of drivers, currently have the most recent aetheros driver, still does it04:15
InfernoLinuxmacbook pro v3. kubuntu 8.10 kde404:16
DaSkreech#qt04:16
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: Wifi support is spotty on Linux04:16
Admiral_ChicagoInfernoLinux: I have no idea about Mac products at all....have you checked the docs?04:16
DaSkreechHardware manufacturers don't support it04:17
DaSkreech!mac04:17
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE04:17
r3db0xi get this error when trying to play movies with mplayer...ao pulse failed to connect to server: connection refused.  anyone know what is causing it?04:17
DaSkreech!apple04:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about apple04:17
DaSkreech:-p04:17
InfernoLinuxyea... for the older versions of kubuntu you had to manually compile the madwifi drivers to get it to work but 8.10 it worked out of box, and the updates to the drivers help it work more but its still not all the time04:18
InfernoLinuxa reboot usually fixes it but thats really inefficient if im running on batter04:18
DaSkreechWell Wifi is inefficent for battery04:20
InfernoLinuxyes, but nessessary.    It sees the wifi and will begin to configure, then inserts thumb in butt04:21
InfernoLinuxsudo apt-get install clean wont find "clean"04:26
InfernoLinuxi found cruft remover in synaptic but it only removed my old deb packages04:26
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: not install04:26
DaSkreechsudo apt-get clean04:26
InfernoLinuxi did that. no echo, i must have it already... do i just run sudo clean then?04:28
DaSkreechIt's not a application04:29
DaSkreechIt's a function of apt04:29
DaSkreechWhen you apt-get install somehing it downloads the installer04:29
DaSkreechThat sits on your computer04:30
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech: so its done? once type "sudo apt-get clean"04:30
DaSkreechsudo apt-get clean gets rid of that stuff04:30
DaSkreechyes04:30
InfernoLinuxok I see04:30
DaSkreechsee how much more space you have04:30
InfernoLinuxI have a little bit.... I obviously should just upgrade the drive in this laptop04:31
InfernoLinuxmy simulation data takes up a buttload of space04:32
DaSkreech:)04:33
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InfernoLinuxhow do i remove an entire directory with multiple files and folders in terminal04:47
geniirm -rf04:48
geniiUse cautiously04:48
InfernoLinuxgenii thanks04:49
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geniiInfernoLinux: welcome04:50
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: Very cautiously04:50
* genii hands DaSkreech a coffee04:52
DaSkreechReally going to need tha tonight04:54
DaSkreechIt's been a long day04:54
geniiYup04:54
InfernoLinux*hands DaSkreech a Turkish Royal04:59
DaSkreechReally going to need that tonight04:59
DaSkreechIt's been a long day04:59
InfernoLinuxhaha yep i just had one myslef05:00
InfernoLinuxwhat would make firefox not maximize a video.  have most current (180) nvidia drivers05:05
DaSkreechFlash?05:06
InfernoLinuxyea05:07
InfernoLinuxand or quicktime05:07
DaSkreechWht are you using to play quicktime05:08
InfernoLinuxsorry, quictime isnt an issue anymore, i got the mplayer plugin05:11
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech flash works fine but stops when i fullscreen05:11
DaSkreechAll sites?05:14
InfernoLinuxseems to be... hulu and techzilla both do it05:18
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wildbatls05:35
wildbatoops soory05:35
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yaa_PANIKA//moldavia podnala ceni na ukrop!05:52
DaSkreechhi yaa_05:53
yaa_hi)05:56
DaSkreechHow is iptables ?05:57
yaa_still not read((05:57
DaSkreech:-(05:57
yaa_interesting stuff05:58
DaSkreechit is05:58
yaa_tell me please where does ubuntu keep iptable rules?06:00
DaSkreechumm06:00
DaSkreechNot sure hold on06:00
DaSkreechmaybe /etc/iproute2 ?06:01
DaSkreechIt's in the kernel so a lot of it is internal06:01
dtchenyaa_: depends which frontend you're using06:02
yaa_and what about /etc/iptables.up?06:03
yaa_what is frontend06:03
yaa_iptables.up.rules06:03
dtchenyaa_: "frontend" -> ufw, shorewall, etc.06:03
yaa_аа06:04
yaa_ш пще06:04
yaa_ i got06:04
dtchenmost iptables rulesets are stored somewhere using iptables-save(8)06:04
yaa_and if i do not use shorewall or something06:04
InfernoLinuxI am trying to install an app. I have the 32 and 64 versions. they came as .rpm i used alien to convert the 32bit ones to .deb but when i try to convert the 64bit ones they make a bunch of directories. do i need to be converting them on a 64bit machine? or is this normal06:05
yaa_and where are they stored?06:05
yaa_the iptables rules?06:05
dtchene.g., ufw uses /etc/ufw/*.rules and /etc/ufw/applications.d/06:05
DaSkreechoooh cool06:06
DaSkreechyeah /etc/ufw looks like it06:06
yaa_is ufw a utility for managing iptables or what?06:08
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dtchenyaa_: yes06:09
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech you have any ideas?06:09
yaa_dtchen thank you)06:10
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: Not really06:10
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech thanks anywho... ill just try it on the 64bit... i just didnt want to have to move all the files if i didnt have to06:11
DaSkreechFor flash?06:12
yaa_does ufw allow manage routing or it is just firewall?06:14
chronichow can i adjust contrast in kde4?06:14
InfernoLinuxDrSkreech no this is for autodesk maya 200806:14
InfernoLinuxtrying to install it on my i706:15
chroniccan fglrx be installed on 9.04?06:15
yaa_majores06:16
yaa_majory wy06:16
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: Is this space or the full screen thing?06:20
yaa_poidu buterki treskat((06:21
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech neither i fixed the space issue on my laptop, the fullscreen this is still unresolved, im a 3d vfx artist so i need to get maya on this system06:22
DaSkreechOh I misssed that question06:23
InfernoLinuxDaSkreech yes im full of them tonight06:23
Daemonbuntuis there a way to get KDE to recognize audio CDs?06:33
DaemonbuntuI've tried telling it to look in all the obvious places06:33
InfernoLinuxDrSkreech yea dude just incase you are wondering you cant convert 64bit rpm applications to debian on a 32bit machine with alien06:34
InfernoLinuxDrSkreech unless theres some sort of option i missed06:34
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: http://forums.cgsociety.org%2Farchive%2Findex.php%2Ft-9466.html06:34
DaSkreechOh ha ha06:35
DaSkreechMaybenot06:35
InfernoLinuxlol thats the first website i check when i wakeup. right after my email06:35
DaSkreech\o/06:36
DaSkreech:)06:36
InfernoLinuxanyone know good cpu temp applications for linux? something comparable to speedfan or CoreTemp06:38
dr_Willis!info lm-sensors06:38
ubottulm-sensors (source: lm-sensors-3): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:3.0.2-1ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 121 kB, installed size 564 kB06:38
dr_Willisthen thers the dozens of tools that use the lm-sensors data and show it in a pretty gui06:38
InfernoLinuxyou guys are fast haha06:38
dr_Willis'apt-cache search temperure' wolud proberly show you a lot of  possibilities also06:39
InfernoLinuxi looked in synaptic but i was asking if anyone had one they prefered because there are a bunch06:39
dr_Willisthis shows  one of the core differances in Ubuntu Vs Windows.. :) in windows you would have to google around and find some app, that yopu then go to their web site and download.. and Hopefilly not have to pay $20 for some not-ad-mal-ware-demo  utility06:40
dr_WillisDepends on your needs for the most part.06:40
dr_WillisI rarely worry about cpu temp any more06:40
InfernoLinuxyea... i want to do some testing on the clocking abilities of the i7  and on my other cpu i wanted to figure out how low i can keep my fans for what temp so i dont get the wind tunnel effect06:42
gordshi all! how would i know if me sound card supports full duplex? i'm using ubuntu 8 hardy06:43
DaSkreechgords: read the specs on the card?06:44
shadeslayerdr_Willis: any idea how to install lm-sensors??06:47
shadeslayerinstall lm-sensors??06:47
DaSkreechapt-get install lm-sensors06:48
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shadeslayerhm ok06:50
shadeslayeranybody updated kubuntu recently??06:50
shadeslayerso many KDE updates06:50
DaSkreechI haven't06:51
aman#cakephp06:51
DaSkreechbut  apparently a decent number of people have had some issues06:51
jeijeishadeslayer: I just updated to kde4 4.2.006:51
DaSkreechthat's not really what he means :)06:52
jeijeiI had some dependency problems, but got solved. just dont reboot until all is fine :)06:52
DaSkreechThat's updating KDE not Kubuntu06:52
DaSkreechjeijei: how are you liking it?06:52
shadeslayeryeah,thats not what i meant06:52
jeijeiDaSkreech: true :)06:52
shadeslayerDaSkreech: really,so better not to upgrade06:52
shadeslayerthere are 28 upgrades there06:53
jeijeihowever, I tried kubuntu alpha 2 recently but got even deeper trouble. I would wait for a while06:53
DaSkreechwell considering how many people use Kubuntu it's probably statistcally safe06:53
DaSkreechMostly people who have mixed repos got burned06:53
DaSkreech like don't have KDE 4.2 and Kubuntu backports on06:53
DaSkreechthat's likely to break sound06:53
shadeslayerhehe someone was ranting how stable jaunty is few days ago06:54
DaSkreechand don't have the wine repo the OO.o repo and the medibuntu repos with the updates06:54
InfernoLinuxJust finished installing maya2008 and went to run it got an error ::   bash: /usr/local/bin/maya: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:54
DaSkreechMight break your video card if you have custom drivers06:54
shadeslayer:006:54
DaSkreechha ha ha06:54
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: which csh06:54
DaSkreechDo you get a response to the command ?06:54
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InfernoLinuxuhh wait what06:55
InfernoLinuxthats what happened when i typed "maya" in terminal06:55
InfernoLinuxhow do i know which csh06:55
jeijeiInfernoLinux: He meant type "which csh" in terminal06:56
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: in terminal just type which csh06:56
Guest85210hej06:56
jeijeihejja06:56
InfernoLinuxnothing comes up06:56
InfernoLinuxi think i might know whats wrong though, i dont think i installed the nvidia drivers on THIS comp06:57
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: that's unlikey to be the issue06:57
DaSkreech!info csh06:57
ubottucsh (source: csh): Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070713-1 (intrepid), package size 239 kB, installed size 388 kB06:57
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: install that ^^^06:57
shadeslayerDaSkreech: i couldnt get anything either with which csh06:58
shadeslayer:P06:58
InfernoLinuxhmm.... weird... i have them installed m=but nvidia xserver says no06:58
shadeslayerInfernoLinux: not activated maybe06:58
yaa_unyloye govno06:59
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yaa_(06:59
InfernoLinuxjust when you think you have things figured out something doesnt work and you realize how little you know06:59
shadeslayerDaSkreech: why is Ctrl+Shift+W mapped to the wallet service as well as closing tabs in terminal07:00
InfernoLinuxholy shiznit... maya works07:00
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: yes it does07:01
shadeslayerthats linux07:01
InfernoLinuxlol thanks i just need csh07:01
DaSkreechshadeslayer: Dumb move ?07:01
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: I know07:01
shadeslayeryeah07:01
DaSkreechthats why I was laughing07:01
DaSkreechWho uses csh ?07:01
DaSkreechseriously07:01
InfernoLinuxapparently autodesk07:01
DaSkreechnot even tcsh ?07:01
InfernoLinuxhaha07:01
InfernoLinuxi dunno man, im not even going to attempt to install houdini 9 tonight07:02
shadeslayerDaSkreech: well suppose i want to close a tab in konsole,i press the shortcut and whoa the wallet pops up07:02
DaSkreechshadeslayer: yeah open the kwalletmanager and change that global shortcut07:03
DaddyLonglegsIcon's background in my system tray is not transparent. They are very ugly-looking, see http://imagebin.ca/view/ZGVD7Ub.html Can anybody please help me fix it?07:03
gordsanyone who has an experience using speak-freely, i need help here please. i'm having trouble on having a conference on a local network. i tried the sfreflect but only one user at a time can hear the incoming audio.07:04
shadeslayerbtw lm-sensors wont run07:05
DaSkreechskype! :-)07:05
shadeslayeralot of faliures after installation07:05
DaddyLonglegsCan anybody please help me with the problem I just described above?07:10
shadeslayerlol07:10
shadeslayeradept treid removing my Kubuntu desktop sysytem07:11
shadeslayer*tried07:11
DaSkreechDaddyLonglegs: #oxygen or #kde might help as well07:11
DaSkreechshadeslayer: :-)07:11
shadeslayerits labeled an *upgrade*07:11
DaddyLonglegsDaSkreech: I'm gonna try them as well. Thanks for hint.07:12
shadeslayershould i07:12
* shadeslayer is tempted07:12
DaSkreechshadeslayer: Ha ha What package is causing that?07:12
DaSkreechxine ?07:12
shadeslayerno idea07:13
shadeslayeri have xine btw07:13
DaSkreechYeah I figured07:13
shadeslayerkonsole doesnt show anything to remove though07:14
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DaSkreechOk07:15
shadeslayerkonsole ftw!!!07:15
DaSkreechftmfw07:17
shadeslayersomething better coming along??07:18
DaSkreechmind control07:19
shadeslayer:O07:19
DaSkreechUnfortunately most people's mind isn't stronger than the computer :(07:19
shadeslayerhehe07:19
shadeslayerDaSkreech: true or false?? Adept is broke as of now07:20
DaSkreechAdept is dead so it makes no diference07:20
dr_WillisI always install and use synaptic or the console commands anyway07:21
shadeslayer:) me too07:21
norenhi all07:22
DaSkreechI'm going to play with kpackagekit but I really don't like using any GUI stuff unless it has debtags07:22
shadeslayer!hi | noren07:22
ubottunoren: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:22
DaSkreechhi noren07:23
InfernoLinux why dont they just bundle synaptic dont they know adpet is aweful07:23
yaa_tsdarov07:23
shadeslayerInfernoLinux: not KDE enough i guess07:23
InfernoLinuxhaha update synaptic with a pretty blue logo07:24
shadeslayer:)07:24
shadeslayeri like SUSE's Yast though07:24
shadeslayerit has everything worked out07:24
macohow can i make kopete work with google talk?07:25
shadeslayerDaSkreech: any idea if they will give us a inbuilt fingerprint reader in jaunty??07:25
shadeslayermaco: kopete07:25
shadeslayer!gtalk07:25
ubottuGoogle Talk (GTalk) is an instant messaging program from Google. Currently, Google does not have an official standalone GTalk client for Linux, but supports connections from third-party clients such as !Pidgin and !Kopete | See http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html for more information07:25
DaSkreechyaa_: Hmm ?07:25
macoshadeslayer: i just asked that07:25
macoshadeslayer: i said how do i make kopete work with google talk07:25
macobcause, well, it doesn't07:25
DaSkreechInfernoLinux: It's Gtk07:25
macoshadeslayer: anyway, no, libfprint is not installed by default in jaunty07:26
shadeslayerMachtin: ok add an account07:26
DaSkreechmaco: go to the second tab and check all three checkboxes then change the server name to talk.google.com07:26
macoand the version in the repo is a year old and doesn't work with many fingerprint readers07:26
shadeslayer:(07:26
macoDaSkreech: i dont want to allow unencrypted authentication07:27
DaSkreechmaco: check the checkboxes turns on encrypted auth07:27
macoi did change the server name to talk.google.com and port 5223 and i set it to force encrypted auth07:27
DaSkreech Gtalk doesn't allow you to connect unless it's encrypted07:27
macothe 2nd checkbox turns off encrypted auth07:27
DaSkreechwhich is a crock since they auto log everythign hat comes across the wire and save it for all time07:27
dr_Willisrot13 everything!07:28
dr_Willis:)07:28
DaSkreechno it allows plaintext auth which is then encrypted by the first checkbox07:28
macoare you sure? my reading of it is that it means you *should* use SSL, but if it doesn't work, go ahead and skip it07:29
macoas in, dont *force* ssl, just make it optional07:29
shadeslayerDaSkreech: what package updater are they using in Jaunty??07:30
macoand i definitely would want to force it...for all connections, basically07:30
DaSkreechkpackagekit07:30
shadeslayerCLI??07:30
DaSkreech adept is dead as I said07:30
shadeslayeryeah07:30
DaSkreechK<----packagekit07:30
shadeslayer??07:30
DaSkreechKDE07:30
DaSkreechNot cli07:31
shadeslayerso GUI??07:31
DaSkreechYes07:31
shadeslayerhmm ill install it then07:31
pteagueanybody know what the difference is between the nvidia series? i.e. like the difference between a FX5200, a MX4000, & a 6200 ?07:31
dr_Willisdiffrent GPU processors mainly :)07:32
DaSkreechFX premium MX cheap No prefix is standard07:32
shadeslayerpteague: #hardware07:32
dr_Willisand given the annoying complex naming scheme - thats about all one can say about it.07:32
dr_Willis:)07:32
DaSkreechso FX5200 is the premium of the 5--- series07:32
* dr_Willis has a 8800GTSXXX07:32
shadeslayer:D i have the 8600 M GT07:32
DaSkreech MX4000 is the cheap version of 4---- series07:32
pteagueshadeslayer: ty for channel07:33
dr_WillisI was going tio get a 8600 but at that time i got the card..  the 8600's were having issues under ubuntu/kuibuntu07:33
DaSkreech6200 is the standard beare for the 6--- series07:33
shadeslayernp07:33
shadeslayer:O really issues??07:33
dr_Willisnow i can get 2x the card for 1/2 the $$ :) but  this card has lasted me 2+ years now07:33
DaSkreechIt's ##hardware07:33
DaSkreechI have a 960007:33
pteague& i have an 8600gts from evga for my desktop... just wondering what i should get for a cheap & more portable lan party box07:33
dr_WillisI cant even  keep up with video cards these days07:34
dr_Willisi always look for what the reviewers/magazaines call  the 'best value' for the $$07:34
dr_WillisIts not worth splurging 2x the cost for 25% gain  in preformacne07:35
dr_Williswhen 6 mo later ya could get a new card with  2x the preformace for 75% the cost of what you saved :)07:35
macook now how do i change the sort order on contacts in groups in kopete? and how do i rearrange the groups?07:38
DaSkreechDrag and drop ?07:38
macothe groups aren't draggable07:38
DaSkreechah right they are alphabetical07:40
macook....how about sorting contacts by status?07:45
macois that an option in kopete?07:45
DaSkreechNot that I see07:50
QContinueumhow do i tell what video hardware i have in my laptop?07:50
DaSkreechsudo lshw -C Video07:51
DaSkreechgenii: coffee :)07:52
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draik_DaSkreech: Nothing short of perfection. Thank you so much for your help.08:02
DaSkreechI didn't do it! It wasn't me!!08:02
dr_WillisBusted!08:02
draik_I am currently in the process of reinstalling all of my packages.08:03
draik_Should be done in about 70 minutes08:03
draik_After 5 failed installs (go figure) it installed everything and I'm running Kubuntu Intrepid Ibex08:04
draik_!yakuake08:05
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about yakuake08:05
draik_I noticed that yakuake was not something part of the repos. Did I miss something? I love yakuake.08:05
dr_WillisI think its kde 3x only08:05
draik_I had yakuake in KDE 4.1.408:06
draik_As a matter of fact, I have it here on this laptop08:06
draik_Did something replace yakuake?08:06
DaSkreech!info yakuake08:07
ubottuyakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.3-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 206 kB, installed size 1292 kB08:07
DaSkreechIt's KDE 408:07
draik_I guess my repos aren't quite up on par on the new install.08:07
DaSkreechKonversation is KDE3 only08:07
draik_No worries. I backed up /etc and /home08:07
draik_I'm on konversation.08:08
QContinueumditto08:08
DaSkreechsudo apt-get update I guess then install yakuake08:08
draik_I did a dselect update, then ran my upgrade. I hope to get it all back just the way I had it, sans the arctic08:09
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draik_I want to sigh in relief, but I don't want to jinx it.08:10
draik_Speaking of, ETU just went from 62 minutes down to 46 :)08:11
draik_Back to 61 :(08:11
DaSkreech:-)08:12
draik_60 minutes...08:13
draik_Well, I need some rest. Been at this for the past 18 hours straight (not to mention the past few days).08:13
draik_DaSkreech: Thanks again for all your help and saving me pain-staking hours of troubleshooting.08:14
DaSkreechsure08:14
Duesentriebis there a keyboard shortcutr for puppoing up krunner? can i make one?08:15
DaSkreechGEt some sleep08:15
DaSkreechI know I am08:15
DaSkreechalt+f208:15
draik_Duesentrieb: ALT+F208:15
Duesentriebdraik_: ah, thanks. hm... can i customize that somehow?08:15
* draik_ is tired and braindead. I'm sure you can, just don't know at this time.08:16
Duesentrieblooking at hotkey config now. thanks anyway.08:16
Duesentriebfound it and added meta+x08:17
Duesentriebfun fact: german translation of "space" as in "spacebar" is, uh, wrong. "Weltraum" means "space" as in "outer space" :)08:17
DaSkreechsubmit a translation08:18
draik_Good $TIME_REF everyone. I'm going to bed. DaSkreech, I have all of the commands you have provided me written down in case this (n)ever happens again.08:18
DaSkreech:-)08:18
DaSkreechSmart08:18
draik_Oh, before I forget. I found a command in my notes for backing up installed apps. Quite wonderful when I remembered that and the fact that I can SSH when I can get TTY1 on the desktop. :)08:19
draik_Ok, I go now. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....08:20
* draik_ is away08:21
DaSkreech:-)08:21
reenignEesreveR-when i ssh with x forwarded and run kdesktop, the widnows that show up don't have any tops (windows decorators?) ... why is that?08:26
DaSkreechreenignEesreveR-: You didn't run kwin08:27
reenignEesreveR-great, thanx08:28
Kw4hsince yesterday a couple of of the kde packages upgrade to 208:29
reenignEesreveR-DaSkreech, could you please also tell me what should i run to display the taskbar at bottom?08:29
Kw4hah.08:30
Kw4hthe other packages upgraded today apparantly08:30
DaSkreechreenignEesreveR-: Are you in KDE3?08:30
reenignEesreveR-DaSkreech, I have both KDE3 as well as KDE4 installed but i'd like to use KDE3 (default is KDE3)08:31
DaSkreechok then run kicker08:31
reenignEesreveR-so for instance, kdewin = kde3, kdewin4 = kde408:31
reenignEesreveR-fantastic!08:32
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Kw4hcongrats on kde 4.208:53
Kw4htook some updates, but it finally runs :)08:54
gordshi! help please. what command should i use to know if my sound card supports full duplex08:54
DaSkreechgords: why do you need full duplex?08:54
gordsDaSkreech, i'm using a speak-freely  and i need to make both machine can speak at the same time08:55
DaSkreechgords: Ah ok I'm not sure off hand of a way to check that08:56
DaSkreech##hardware and #phoronix might help08:56
DaSkreechBut they will be dead now08:57
gordsok thanks08:57
fuzzyguys need help, my adept manager cannot make updates it gives errors09:05
bazhangfuzzy, what errors09:06
bazhangfuzzy, please pastebin if more than a single line09:06
fuzzybazhang: min09:06
fuzzybazhang: k, here's the deal, some packgages were downloaded but after time it gived an error 404 not found... something like this: http://ge.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/phonon/phonon-backend-gstreamer_4.3.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_i386.deb: 404 Not Found09:09
bazhangfuzzy, this is 8.10?09:11
fuzzybazhang: yes.09:11
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bazhangfuzzy, with 4.1 or 4.209:11
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fuzzybazhang:  wait a min, i will check it. i dont remember09:12
fuzzybazhang: with 4.109:19
fuzzy:)09:19
bazhangfuzzy, could you pastebin sources.list ?09:19
fuzzybazhang: k09:19
bazhangcat /etc/apt/sources.list --> paste.ubuntu.com09:22
bazhangfuzzy, not in PM09:23
bazhangpaste.ubuntu.com  (more eyes the better)09:23
fuzzybazhang: paste it here?09:23
bazhangpaste.ubuntu.com <-----there09:23
fuzzybazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/120927/09:24
altrortla#windows09:25
bazhangfuzzy, comment out the first line (the cd one) by putting a # in front of it, save then update09:26
bazhangkdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:26
fuzzybazhang: #deb cdrom < like this?09:27
bazhangfuzzy, yep; save then sudo apt-get update (and then whatever else you were trying to do) :)09:28
fuzzybazhang: ty09:28
bazhangfuzzy, yw :)09:28
fuzzybazhang: everything has failed man09:31
bazhangfuzzy, what error?09:31
fuzzybazhang: again a 404 error09:32
fuzzybazhang: what should i do?09:34
bazhangfuzzy, just checking your sources.list hang on a second09:35
fuzzybazhang: k09:35
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bazhangfuzzy, edit non-free out of sources.list09:40
fuzzyfuzzy: you mean to delete every "non-free" comments?09:41
gordshi! is there a downloadable kubuntu server?09:42
gordsi downloaded kubuntu recently but it was a live cd version, what is the sign if it's a kubuntu server or a kubuntu live cd? thanks09:43
bazhanghttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Add_Repositories_using_Synaptic_Package_Manager  fuzzy there is an example sources.list09:43
dr_Willistheres  'server' editions.. there is no 'kubuntu server' since the server dont come with the X stuff/desktop09:43
dr_Willisthe live cd - is not the 'server' edition09:44
bazhangfuzzy, not sure what the ge is for yours, and you can alter suitably if removing the non-free does not work09:44
gordsdr_Wills, even ubuntu server with gnome?09:46
dr_Willisthe server edititions do not come with X or the desktop09:46
bazhangno gnome, cli only09:46
gordsok, thanks09:46
gords:D09:46
bazhangyou can add kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop though09:47
dr_WillisIf you want the GUI I say stick to the desktop installer cd or Alternave installer cd.09:47
bazhangor just add !lamp to the desktop version09:47
gordsnow about a downloadable desktop? kde preferably09:47
gidzhi09:47
gordshow about a downloadable desktop? kde preferably*09:48
dr_Willisgords,  what about it?09:48
dr_Willissame as you install any other apps. :)09:48
dr_Willisapt-get install  whatever-desktop09:48
bazhangxubuntu-desktop , lxde, and so on09:49
caustinJust got a Dell XPS 1530 today.  Jaunty alpha 4, 64bit, flawless install.  Everything works.09:49
bazhang#ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussion please caustin09:50
gordsjust want to write it into a cd, because everytime i installed a fresh ubuntu and install its gui it takes long to finish since i only had a slow internet. however when i apt-get source kubuntu-desktop i only get few package, maybe less than 10mb09:50
dr_Willis!aptcd09:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about aptcd09:50
dr_Willistheres the apt-on-cd tools. i never use them09:50
caustinbazhang: I was merely saying.  Not a discussion.09:50
dr_Willisof if on a lan.  You could set up one machine to be an apt-cach server09:51
bazhang!aptoncd09:52
ubottuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers09:52
bazhang!info apt-mirror09:52
ubottuapt-mirror (source: apt-mirror): APT sources mirroring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-1ubuntu1.1 (intrepid), package size 12 kB, installed size 120 kB09:52
bazhangif you have a big hdd :)09:52
dr_Willisdoes apt-on cd also save the files the packages would of downloaded? Like the mstfonts   whateverfont.exe files and the wireless firmware downloads?09:53
dr_Willisor do those save to a standard splace that it also backups?09:53
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santiagoHi!10:02
santiagoI just install kde4.210:02
santiagoand had a dependency problem...10:02
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santiagoin the web page it says here I could get some help...10:02
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santiagoany body could help me??10:03
santiagonobody?10:04
nicholaI would help....... but you're talking double dutch to me lol sorry :)10:04
dr_WillisHmm10:05
dr_Willisi recall having to manually remove   some conflicting package.. then  reran the kde4 install10:05
dr_Willisthere may be some other ways around the conflict.10:06
santiagoI installed it in another computer... reboot it, and had a terrible kde 4.2, without kwin or typing... so, I updated my computer, and the some message came...10:07
santiagoand now im afraid to reboot it...10:07
dr_Willislearn to use the apt-get commands from the terminal.  pastebin the error messages perhaps so people in here can help10:07
santiagolike this?10:08
santiagoAPT Error. Context:10:08
santiago    Running dpkg,10:08
santiago    [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --configure, -a ],10:08
fuzzybazhang: none of your solutions not worked :(10:08
bazhangno kwin?10:08
santiago    Sup-process returned error code 1,10:08
santiago    Error processing kdebase-workspace-bin : problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar.10:08
fuzzybazhang: but i've fixed it xD10:08
bazhangfuzzy, please paste the new sources.list10:09
bazhangfuzzy, how10:09
dr_Willis!info pastebinit10:09
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-1 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 88 kB10:09
dr_Willissudo apt-get install pastebinit10:09
fuzzybazhang: i have just switched from my country server to main server... :)10:09
dr_Willispastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list10:09
dr_Willis:)10:09
bazhangheh10:09
mattiwhich one version KDE is the lastest10:10
bazhangI always like to | that to pastebinit10:10
santiagoI havent reboot it, so I have kde 4.1, with kwin... but Im almosty sure that I would loose kwin on reboot, just like it happent with my girlfriends notebook on 4.2 upgrade....10:10
santiagohow can I avoid it??10:10
dr_WillisInstall some other desktop untill you get kde4.2 going10:10
bazhangsantiago, yes I had that same issue10:10
yehui人不少  呵呵10:11
bazhang!info kwin10:11
ubottukwin (source: kdebase-workspace): the KDE 4 window manager (KWin). In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid3 (intrepid), package size 38 kB, installed size 304 kB10:11
bazhangyehui, english here; #ubuntu-cn for chinese10:11
santiagohow can I you fix it??10:12
bazhangsantiago, I installed kwin10:12
santiagoyou had no kwin after upgrade, nor could you type? and you fixed by installind kwin??10:13
dr_WillisYou can always go to the consoles and 'fix' things10:13
bazhangsantiago, I could type, just could not see it10:13
bazhangsantiago, so I launched the run command and got konsole10:14
bazhangthen sudo apt-get install kwin and logged out and back in, and fixed!10:14
fuzzyguys i have another question... do someone knows where to find some THC-Hydra guide? on how to use it?10:14
* dr_Willis has no idea what THC-Hydra is10:15
dr_WillisI might have a homepage :)10:15
fuzzydr_Willis: thc.org10:16
dr_Willishomepage or their forums..  would be my guess. :)  or a wiki page.10:17
fuzzydr_Willis: on homepage no tutorial is written..10:17
fuzzydr_Willis: they have no forum and no wiki too...10:18
santiagook, thank's... I would try to fix it...10:18
fuzzydr_Willis: but people are using thc-hydra so someone MUST HAVE written a tutorial...10:18
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dr_Willishttp://freeworld.thc.org/thc-hydra/  has docs10:19
dr_Willisits ussage looks rather straight forward to me. :)10:20
dr_Willisnot sure where ya get a password list, or user list from.. but i guess thats  Up to the end user to decide10:21
ferhola10:21
feralguien me puede dar soporte en español10:22
fer?¿10:22
* dr_Willis notices a link on the hydra docs page that lead to a 'rather long readme file' (or so the page says)10:22
fuzzydr_Willis: lol, i feel so lame : )) heh, ty10:22
bazhang!es10:22
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.10:22
dr_Willistheres web surfigh the pages. then theres 'reading' :)10:22
fergracias10:22
jarod_hi10:22
jarod_anybody got aproblem?10:23
bazhangyes10:23
bazhanghow to add apps to panel in kde4.110:23
dr_WillisYou mean launcher icons?10:24
jarod_Right cilck on the bottom10:25
bazhangdr_Willis, yep; every time I try to add a widget, I get the whole kmenu10:25
bazhangie want just firefox or konsole for example10:25
jarod_remove the spares10:25
jarod_what me to tell you how to install firefox by sudo10:26
bazhangright click add a widget only offers those choices (app launcher is kmenu)10:26
Kbevillehi room.... i am using xbmc media center and i need to see my mvoies and music on my windows home server/windows desktop computer can i be help10:26
jarod_yes10:26
jarod_have you got a music cd10:27
bazhangnot a big deal to scroll through the kmenu just wanted those icons to click on10:27
dr_Willis!info cheese10:27
ubottucheese (source: cheese): A tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.24.2-0ubuntu0+intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 2339 kB, installed size 7152 kB10:27
jarod_what about if she or him got no web cam10:27
Kbevillehi room.... i am using xbmc media center and i need to see my movies and music on my windows home server/windows desktop computer can i be help10:30
dr_WillisYou could always set up a samba share..  and access them that way.. or perhaps try that UpNP stuff.10:33
shadeslayerhmm when did Da_Skreech leaave??10:35
shadeslayeri was gonna ask him something10:35
jarod_Poor you10:35
shadeslayer:(10:36
shadeslayerwell he mentioned some conflicts of Kubuntu with my 8600M GT10:36
shadeslayerany idea??10:36
jarod_:)10:36
shadeslayerhehe today adept tried to remove the Kubuntu Destop package from my HD10:37
bazhangthat is fine10:37
bazhang!metapackage10:38
ubottuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.10:38
jarod_you better have another running programe10:38
jarod_like windows xp home editon10:38
bazhangkubuntu-desktop wont remove your desktop10:38
shadeslayerjarod_: Win Vista10:38
shadeslayerreally??10:38
jarod_what do you mean?10:38
bazhangonly a metapackage10:39
bazhangsee above10:39
shadeslayerso i should have removed it10:39
bazhangre-install before upgrading to next version though10:39
bazhangyou still can :)10:39
shadeslayeruh that was a normal upgrade10:39
shadeslayerlike daily updates10:40
bazhangnot that kind; version upgrades10:40
bazhangie hardy to intrepid10:40
shadeslayernope10:41
shadeslayeri mean like i started kubuntu and wham adept says 28 updates available10:41
bazhangits okay to remove it; just reinstall when you want to change versions10:41
shadeslayernah ill leave it there10:42
bazhangfor example the !puregnome shows only two packages (not metapackages in this case)10:42
shadeslayerwhat the heck,change of mind,ill remove it10:42
bazhangremove them, and remove all of kubuntu practically10:43
bazhangthink of kubuntu-desktop in the reverse situation10:43
jarod_your thinks of remove kubuntu well you better have a boot disk10:45
bazhangkubuntu-desktop metapackage ?10:46
shadeslayerwell ill let you know10:46
bazhangdont need a boot disk for that10:46
jarod_but10:46
shadeslayerdont worry i have vista too so if something goes wrong ill let you guys know10:47
jarod_i got linux10:47
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bazhangI've removed it plenty of times, and nary an issue. its only a metapackage10:48
jarod_oh good10:49
bazhangif you !puregnome , though..10:49
shadeslayerjarod_: i thought that too10:50
shadeslayer!puregnome10:50
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »10:50
bazhangyou would have a system, just no gui10:50
shadeslayer:)10:50
jarod_who me10:50
bazhangand dropping to a console you could install lxde , ubuntu-desktop, or many others10:51
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shadeslayeryayy10:51
shadeslayer:)10:51
shadeslayernothing happened10:51
bazhangno; the use of 'you' is the impersonal you, not directed towards any one individual10:51
shadeslayer:P10:51
bazhangnothing happening is good news10:52
jarod_:P10:52
bazhang:)10:52
shadeslayerhehe10:54
jarod_:c10:55
jarod_:S10:56
jarod_See ya10:57
shadeslayercan kopete start a voice call??10:58
jarod_dont think so i will go look10:59
shadeslayerplease quick!!!10:59
shadeslayer!beer10:59
bazhanghttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid10:59
ubottuBeer is always appreciated.10:59
shadeslayer?? huh10:59
bazhanggood place to check11:00
jarod_what a sce11:00
Exilantin kde4, how can i replace that weird new device notifier?11:00
jarod_nope11:00
Exilantmedia:/ no longer works11:00
shadeslayernope11:00
shadeslayerso..11:02
shadeslayerwhy doesnt gtalk  have linux versions11:02
dr_Willisbecause they dont want to? :)11:08
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shadeslayer:)11:10
shadeslayerbad google11:10
shadeslayerthey probably deny the exsistence of linux :P11:10
cumulus007they don't?11:10
cumulus007they do even have a special linux page11:11
cumulus007http://www.google.com/linux11:11
cumulus007shadeslayer: ^11:11
jussi01shadeslayer: you can connect to gtalk through kopete - its just an implementation of jabber11:12
shadeslayer_sorry for that11:13
jtheuerDid someone loose the suspend button in kde at one of the last updates, too?11:14
shadeslayer_nope11:14
shadeslayer_i still have mine11:15
jtheuerwired11:15
shadeslayer_wired??11:15
jtheuerI changed from compiz to kwin but that shoudn't  affect the suspend capabilites, right?11:15
dr_Willisdid you start kde with the kdm login manager?11:15
jtheueryes, I still use kdm11:16
cumulus007I lost my power off actions11:16
cumulus007reboot/shutdown/hibernate/suspend11:16
jaws2hey all, does anyone know how i can change the name of my computer in kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2, ive searched in google but cant find the answer..11:16
cumulus007It's not possible (blame on kubuntu devs)11:17
cumulus007try kdesudo kate /etc/hosts11:17
jtheuerisn't it /etc/hostname ?11:17
noren!kmail11:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kmail11:18
dr_Willis!hostname | jaws211:18
ubottujaws2: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at System > Administration > Networking on the "General" tab11:18
dr_Willisbe VERy carefull when changing the hostname :)11:18
shadeslayer_!thunderbird | noren11:18
ubottunoren: Thunderbird is a free email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox (both by the Mozilla Foundation). To make Thunderbird links open in Firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042711:18
jaws2ah great help thank you11:18
shadeslayer_!careful11:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about careful11:19
shadeslayer_:P11:19
norenshadeslayer_: thanks but i wanted to configure kmail with gmail11:19
shadeslayer_oh11:19
shadeslayer_!gmail11:19
ubottugmail is a webmail service. For information on using it with Evolution see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution11:19
noren!nvidia11:21
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:21
cumulus007why is ubottu GNOME-based in a Kubuntu channel?11:24
shadeslayer_:)11:24
dr_Willisthe bot is not gnome based. :)11:27
dr_Willis!bot11:27
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:27
dr_WillisIts artificial intelligence11:27
dr_Willis!nothing11:27
ubottuSaying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.11:27
dr_Willis!anything11:28
ubottuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.11:28
cumulus007dr_Willis: why doet it talk about Evolution, then?11:28
cumulus007and about GNOME menus11:28
dr_WillisWhy not.11:28
cumulus007because this is #kubuntu11:28
cumulus007not #ubuntu11:28
dr_Willisbecuse the factoids its spitting out are done by people11:28
dr_WillisIf you want more accurate ones submit them11:28
cumulus007where?11:29
dr_Willis<ubottu> Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:29
dr_Willislast URL wouldbe place to start.11:29
dr_Willisand there are som,e cases where it does spit out different info - depending on what channel its in11:29
cumulus007!blabla is qwertyuiop11:30
ikoniacumulus007: what ?11:30
cumulus007that was a test11:30
ikoniacumulus007: for what ?11:32
pteagueanybody have any ideas as to what's going on with this? just installed & rebooted - http://pastebin.com/m7bd6da0511:32
cumulus007I wanted to test ubottu's factoid function11:32
ikoniacumulus007: please play with the bot in private message11:32
cumulus007okay, sorry11:33
dr_Willisnew factoids and changes also have to go through some proceess to get them submited/ok's11:33
noren_hi is there any CLI search Engines or browser11:35
cumulus007yes11:35
dr_Willislynx , w3m, links  - text based browsers11:36
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slabbehHi, I have setup bigdesktop in ATI catalyst control centre, but now KDE has massive glitches (covering the whole screen), gnome is fine. I have reset xorg.conf using sudo dpkg-rec.... But no difference. Doing 'Ctrl+Alt+F2' then 'Ctrl+Alt+F9' makes KDE display fine but as soon as I click on anything artifacts/glitches appear.11:39
slabbehAnd I have removed all compiz and emerald packages, which also made no difference11:40
shadeslayer_!ati11:40
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:40
shadeslayer_oh crap11:40
dr_Willisf using sudo dpkg-rec.... is  no longer a valid way to configure xorg.conf I think. since 8.1011:40
shadeslayer_glitches such as??11:41
dr_WillisYou could try moving the xorg.conf to xorg.conf_BACKUPED so you have no xorg.conf and see if X re-auto-configures X properly11:41
slabbehdr_Willis, how should I re-configure it? I tried recovering to my backup, but this didn't work11:41
dr_WillisI have several systems with blank xorg.conf files :)11:41
noren_!lynx11:42
ubottuBrowsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)11:42
slabbehdr_Willis, I do want to use fglrx though11:42
dr_Willisit might use it.. if its isntalled.. ive not tried :)11:42
dr_WillisI only use nvidia these days11:42
slabbehshadeslayer, its hard to describe, looks like its on a really high resolution and stretched everything horizontally11:43
slabbeh* I mean really low resolution11:43
wershow do I enable font rendering for gtk apps?11:44
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pteaguefigured it out...  seems as though there's some sort of a problem with either the mobo accepting the nvidia card, the particular mix of drivers, or maybe the power supply isn't getting enough power to it...11:45
slabbeh!ati11:46
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:46
aes52how to disable scsi emulation so drive appears as /dev/hda not /dev/scd0?11:46
martinezhi people11:47
dr_Willis!libata11:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about libata11:48
dr_Willis!libsata11:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about libsata11:48
dr_Willistheres a factoid on it aes52  bit i forget what one it is11:48
slabbehdr_Willis, removing xorg.conf has removed the problem but it is not using fglrx11:48
aes52!scsi11:49
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about scsi11:49
dr_Willisslabbeh,  You are one step closer then sounds like.11:49
slabbehdr_Willis, is there a way to re-install fglrx?11:49
dr_Willisuse the hardware manager/driver tool  perhaps.11:49
dr_Willissudo jockey-kde11:49
shadeslayerhey,i pressed ctrl+alt+F9 and then restarted because i couldnt do a thing in konsole12:00
shadeslayernow kubintu wont start with KDE12:00
shadeslayer*kubuntu12:01
aes52dd: reading `/dev/scd0': Input/output error12:01
aes52any thoughts?12:01
shadeslayeri only get default and failsafe options in login manager,and they dont seem to work12:03
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dr_Willisshadeslayer,  login to the console, stop the kdm service. and try 'startx' to see if kde starts up and what error messages may appear.12:05
shadeslayeruh how do i stop kdm and start X??12:05
shadeslayer!kdm12:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm12:06
shadeslayerdr_Willis: any idea how to stop kdm?12:06
dr_Willisits a service :)12:07
dr_Willissudo service kdm stop12:07
dr_Willissame as most every other sercice12:08
dr_Willisservice12:08
shadeslayerok12:08
shadeslayerand what about x??12:08
shadeslayerhow do i stop X12:08
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slabbehdr_Willis, thanks for your help, all sorted now I think12:14
slabbehnow time to setup ubuntu on my 2nd pc12:15
shadeslayerdr_Willis: no errors12:17
shadeslayerwhat next??12:17
fuzzy_guys help how to use THC-Hydra... i have learned some basics on how to crack some emails, and i have the dictionary too but the password are not cracking... it gives only a date,day,time of when hydra started to run and ended12:19
fuzzy_any help?12:19
shadeslayerfuzzy_: #hack maybe12:20
shadeslayerand tell me if you succeed i need some help too12:20
fuzzy_shadeslayer: on what?12:21
shadeslayercracking emails12:21
fuzzy_shadeslayer: k12:21
shadeslayermy friend's win live account was hacked12:21
shadeslayerdr_Willis: any idea??12:23
shadeslayerive run every option in the recovery console12:24
* dr_Willis missed the original problem.12:25
shadeslayerdr_Willis: well i pressed ctrl+alt+f912:27
shadeslayerthen i couldnt do anything so i restarted,and now kubuntu is broke12:28
shadeslayeri.e. in login manager i cant start KDE12:29
shadeslayerand failsafe and default dont work byw12:30
shadeslayer*btw12:30
dr_Willisif you were on the Consoles, you could try to do a lot of things.. You may want to try adding a different 'desktop/window manager' so you can see if X is working at all.12:30
dr_Willis'sudo apt-get install icewm'  for example.12:30
shadeslayerdr_Willis: well when i do startx,i get a screen with a cursor and a white and black screen12:31
tobias_hallo (test)12:31
dr_Willismake a file called .xinitrc that launches the desktop you want.   example file. 2 lines..12:32
dr_Willisxterm &12:32
dr_Willisstartkde12:32
dr_Willis---END OF FILE ---12:32
dr_Willisstartx reads that file and launches whats in it.12:32
dr_Willisif you install 'icewm' you change the last line to be 'icewm' - If you had gnome installed it would be 'gnome-session'12:32
tobias_ichbin gerade am update von catalyst (passt das hier her?)12:32
dr_WillisIt sounds shadeslayer  that X is working.. but KDM jhas the issues12:33
amgarchIn9aptitude shows upgradable phonon-backend-xine version 4.3, current 4.1.4 just as the kde version. Can this be true?12:33
Riesh!de |tobias_12:33
ubottutobias_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.12:33
tobias_thankyou12:37
xx6xxHi'all12:38
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radiotehnik!ru12:47
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:47
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agfpaidia den douleuei tipota!!!!12:58
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aeternhi13:00
dr_Willishmm13:02
agfkalispera13:04
agfna kano mia erotisi ?13:04
agfsxetika me to paltalk ...13:04
* dr_Willis dosent even know what language that is13:05
agfhi13:05
dr_WillisHell013:05
agfsorry for the greek :)13:05
agfim new in kubuntu ;)13:05
agfi have a problem with paltalk client13:06
agfi installed it through wine ,,13:06
agfbut i get an error msg that says someting about firewall configs...13:06
agf:( anyone know anything to help me out ?13:06
dr_Willistheres is no firewall settings enabled by default in Ubuntu, It may be you need to set up the router to forwared the proper ports13:07
RurouniJonesI doubt you have any firewall setup on your machine, plus it is a windows app on linux which is always fun. It could be the router13:07
agfi didnt needed to make any configs in windows...13:08
RurouniJonesCould possible have been a uPnP thing in windows that isn't on linux13:08
dr_Willisthat dosent mrove very much afg.13:08
RurouniJonesTry opening the ports manually first13:08
* dr_Willis agrees with RurouniJones 13:08
agfi dont know what ports it use :(13:08
agfshould i look in google ?13:09
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RurouniJoneshttp://support.paltalk.com/Firewalls.html13:09
agfthanks for your responce btw :)13:09
dr_Willisgoogle is our friend13:09
agf:))13:09
RurouniJonesThat was 5 seconds on google. Always google for something first13:09
salvihola13:10
agfthanks ppl i will try to fix it :)13:10
untitledhello. Enyone uses kde4.2 with qt4.5?13:13
thornsI'm just experiencing something weird. Dolphin is very slow navigating folders, while another open Konqueror window navigates just fine.13:14
thornsAnd my system is not under any heavy loading13:15
thornsWell except Xorg which is often going between 3-5% and 70%13:16
thornsAnyone experienced this?13:16
testiI wonder why dolphin isn't just as fast as "ls", because all the preview and metadata processing coud be done in another thread, but it doesn't look like it works that way13:18
thornsYeah13:18
thornsLook, I turned off compositing and desktop effects and Xorg is acting the same13:19
thornsMaybe it's fine (I'm using a refresh of 400ms)13:19
testiRecently kontact caused Xorg to use a lot of CPU here13:19
thornsKMail does that13:20
testiyeah KMail13:20
thornsDon't know if I should report this13:20
thornsDolphin seems to be working fast enough with my other paritions which are ReiserFS formated13:21
thornsOK, maybe not :-/13:22
noren!timezone13:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about timezone13:25
noren!time13:25
ubottuInformation about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)13:25
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norenhow to change timezone inn kubntu13:28
DragnslicerSystem Settings -> Date and Time13:28
gordshi! how would i change ubuntu's sound card preference? i plugged-in a new sound card but didn't know where to change it.13:28
thornsGreat! Xorg completely hanged!13:30
thornsRather it stopped rendering13:30
thornsWhich makes me think it might be KWin13:30
peterbuldgeafter logging into kde my system hangs on the networking icon.  I can log in fine to openbox but I have to start the network manager to get online.  Does anybody have any idea what's wrong?13:35
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scorper360hi all13:40
scorper360need help13:40
scorper360does anyone know were i can get a replacement screen for my medion 218013:40
scorper360hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooo13:41
dr_WillisI would ahve to say.. time to hit google? and ebay13:41
jeijeiscorper360: www.google.com: medion 2180 spare parts13:41
dr_Willisgoogle is our friend13:41
scorper360ok i try13:42
giarcaam I wrong or kde4.2 are raising from stable repository?13:42
Tm_Tgiarca: from backports13:42
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giarcaso I could delete kubuntu-experimental repository when all package are up13:43
giarcais it right?13:43
WalzmynGreat, I can't bring up my panel. I thought KDE4 was supposed to fix this bug13:43
Tm_Tgiarca: sure13:43
scorper360and  can i like remove most of the kubuntu apps13:43
scorper360 non of them are my type of apps13:43
giarcaTm_T: yeah! thanks! :D Great news! :)13:43
scorper360nope13:44
scorper360does note work13:44
kkkduifjalsddis the word "followingly" existent in the english language?13:46
ubuntu__hello all Im having some major problems with my kubuntu install 4.2, the keyboard only works on the kde menu and nothing else, my windows are missing the window headers. I cannot run failsafe since it give me an error saying x --failsafe missing. While installing the kde 4.2 packages, i had some errors i did like it said and ran dpkg and apt-get -f commands, and still had problems, after a restart all these problems occured13:51
dr_Willissounds like yet anoterh failed kde 4.2 upgrade13:54
dr_WillisI would say go to the console. and try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try to reinstall kde 4.2 - if any specific error messages appear.  tell this channel about them13:55
ubuntu__dr_willis problem is my keyboard isnt functioning in konsole either :( only the menu the rest of kde just seems to ignore it even exists13:55
dr_Willisnot 'konsole' the Console13:56
dr_Willisalt-ctrl-f1 CONSOLES13:56
thornsubuntu__: konsole or the kernel consoles?13:56
* dr_Willis curses at whoever decided to use that cute name13:56
dr_Willisalt-ctrl-f1 to get to console, login13:57
dr_Willissudo service kdm stop13:57
dr_Willissudo apt-get update13:57
ubuntu__dr_Willis sorry for striking the wrong chord13:57
dr_Willis:)13:57
dr_Willissudo apt-get upgrade13:57
dr_Willis You migjht also want to install irssi and the pastebinit command. to allow chatting here. and easy pasetbining of the error messages if any13:58
ubuntu__alright I'll give it ago thank you :D13:58
BluesKajHiyas14:03
tommi_Has anyone had a problem with fonts defaulting to sans in kub jaunty after last nights updates?14:05
Tm_T!jaunty | tommi_14:05
ubottutommi_: Jaunty Jackalope is the code for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support.14:05
tommi_kk14:06
thornslol I found why Dolphin is slow for me14:09
thornsI'm running TwinView and I thought I should run the FPS plugin from KWin to test if Xorg is running low on resources14:10
thornsI noticed more CPU was used on the first screen14:10
thornsThen I tested Dolphin in both screens14:10
thornsIt navigates folders just fine on the second screen14:10
thornsBut slower if I move the window in the first screen14:10
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Tm_TGuest57502: are we rooted now?14:12
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dr_Willisi recall some issues in the past with twinview/dual monitors and compiz14:23
dr_Williscould be the kde stuff has similer issues14:23
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Guest66130hulloa all!14:24
shadeslayer!hi | Guest6613014:25
ubottuGuest66130: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!14:25
Guest66130:)14:25
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jwyanzeKbeville1: ur getting through14:43
noren!list14:54
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manikandanAnybody from India..?15:01
shadeslayeryeah15:01
shadeslayerwhy??15:01
shadeslayer:P15:01
shadeslayerhehe he lives near Delhi15:02
BluesKaj!hindi15:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hindi15:02
shadeslayer:P15:02
BluesKaj:)15:02
shadeslayeri can tell from the ip15:02
shadeslayer!india15:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about india15:02
shadeslayer:O15:02
shadeslayer!India15:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about India15:02
shadeslayer!america15:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about america15:02
shadeslayerreally good bot15:02
shadeslayer!pat15:03
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pat15:03
* shadeslayer pats ubottu15:03
bazhang!msgthebot15:03
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".15:03
shadeslayer:(15:03
BluesKaj!in15:04
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India15:04
shadeslayeroh cool15:04
bazhangkeeping a PM open with ubottu is very helpful15:04
shadeslayerhehe i didnt know they had a seprate channel for indians15:04
BluesKajshadeslayer , most countries have a seperate chat , but usually it's known by the official language spoken there, like !fi for finland etc15:07
shadeslayeroh ok15:07
BluesKajsome countries have 2 or more official languages which i'm sure India has, so it's just the country name in that case15:09
shadeslayerhmm,yeah india has 20 official languages15:10
BluesKajwow15:11
dr_WillisThey must have very complex stop signs. :)15:12
shadeslayerlol15:12
* dr_Willis pictures a Tall Stop sign with Stop in 20 languages15:12
shadeslayerwell no,most of them are in english and well theyre signs15:13
BluesKajor just a large hand15:13
shadeslayerlook at the back of our currency and we have all 20 languages listed15:14
dr_WillisI was thinking of a cartoon of a little donkey stopping real fast.. :)15:15
shadeslayermost people talk in Hindi and english though15:15
shadeslayerdr_Willis: :)15:15
dr_Willisbut  thats just me being silly :) its almost my bed time15:15
draik_shadeslayer: Does everyone in India know all 20 or is it based on where you are that you'll know more or less than other regions?15:16
shadeslayeryeah its regional15:17
BluesKajbedtime? ,...did you work the nightshift ?15:17
shadeslayerlike people in gujrat know Gujrati15:17
shadeslayeretc etc15:17
draik_Gotcha.15:17
Tm_T!ot | just to remind you all15:18
ubottujust to remind you all: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!15:18
draik_Are the languages somewhat similar so that you know what they are speaking or are they unique?15:18
draik_Tm_T: Sorry15:18
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shadeslayerdraik_: in #kubuntu-offtopic15:18
shadeslayermeet you there15:19
draik_There15:19
kasilasHello Everybody15:23
shadeslayer!hi15:23
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:23
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Exposureplasma is broken in kde 4.215:24
Exposureanybody working on that? i'll be happy to provide feedback15:24
Tm_TExposure: how it is broken?15:25
Xemamy KDE is completl broken :-(15:25
Xemasince today15:25
Xema+y15:25
Xema+e :-)15:25
Exposureplasmoid related packages depend on libplasma2 instead of libplasma315:25
Tm_TExposure: those packages aren't updated yet15:25
Tm_TExposure: wait until all packages are uploaded to servers (:15:26
Exposureyes I've found out, so kde 4.2 isn't really out yet ;)15:26
Exposurei'll be patient15:26
dr_WillisKDE 4.2 is still unofficial and a work in progress15:26
Tm_TExposure: well not entirely, packages are getting there slowly15:26
Tm_Tdr_Willis: in Backports are they now15:26
dr_WillisAnd yes. there are upgrade issues..15:26
bazhangstandard in the next release though, correct?15:27
Tm_Tbazhang: indeed15:27
dr_WillisTm_T,  does backports count as 'officia'' or 'sort-of-official' ? :)15:27
Tm_Tdr_Willis: official "community supported" (:15:27
dr_Willis'The Official Desktop of EyeCandy Addicts!" :)15:27
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Exilanthow is 4.2 unofficial?15:30
Xemamaybe soneone has an idea? my kde freezed in the middle of apt-get upgrade today, after an reboot, only the commandline worked. dpgk --configure -a brings "kdm...exec format error"15:30
Xemaan apt-get install kdm --reinstall worked15:30
Xemabut since this time, after login, my screen is black15:30
dr_WillisIts not included by default.. its in 'backports' which are a 'use at your own risk' type repository15:30
Exilantah, ok15:31
Exilantnever installed ibex, went straight to jaunty15:31
dr_WillisYou are a risk taker. :)15:31
Exilantwell, no15:31
Exilanthave my hardy ro fall back to15:31
Exilantand do actual work :)15:31
Xemawhat could i do? :-)15:32
Exilantxema, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log or so15:33
Xemaand then? i'm under windows15:35
Exilanttry to determine what went wrong15:40
Exilantdoes X start at all?15:40
Exilantor maybe just a dpkg-reconfigure kdm will do15:40
Xemathe login process worked15:42
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roothello all !!!15:47
nithou[Be]hello world15:47
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Guest11451i have a question: i want to buy a vps, and they give 2 choises of linux version: open vz and xen. I am used to work with ubuntu so which of them (open vz and xen) is closer to ubuntu? help me plese15:49
Guest11451anybody?15:51
nithou[Be]just nod if you can here him ...15:51
Tm_TGuest11451: first, you should never irc as root, well, do anything you don't have to as root15:52
Guest11451ok, what about my question?15:52
Tm_TGuest11451: second, I'm not sure, but my guess is Xen15:53
Guest11451thx Tm_t15:53
Guest11451but i need to know sure, because i want to buy it for  3 years15:54
Guest11451anybody knows which is closer to ubuntu? openvz or xen15:57
Guest11451thx in advance15:57
bazhangGuest11451, best to listen to Tm_T 's advice, or do some googling15:58
bazhangxen seems to be it :)16:00
bazhangoops16:00
NigelShmm, I wonder if he knows what Xen and open vz are....16:00
giarcaNigelS: LOL16:00
NigelSsince if he does then his questions doesn't make much sense16:01
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MetaMorfoziSHi all16:06
MetaMorfoziSDoes anybody uses kde3.5.10 on intrepid?16:06
MetaMorfoziSI have installed a cli system, what i need to do to don't get dependency problems etc?16:06
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: from what source you thought to install it?16:06
MetaMorfoziSI'm just testin in VirtualBox16:07
MetaMorfoziSg16:07
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: I don't know any source to get KDE3 to intrepid (in proper way that is)16:07
MetaMorfoziSi thought to use the hardy ones16:08
MetaMorfoziSbut i'm afraid of the dependency problems16:08
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: then you end up having serious problems I believe16:08
MetaMorfoziSme too:)16:08
MetaMorfoziSmaybe i try to compile kde 3...:S16:09
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: reason not to use KDE4 ?16:09
MetaMorfoziSi just not familiar with it atm, it's heavily under construction, have less configuration options than gnome(wahwah)16:09
bazhangnot really16:10
MetaMorfoziSand actually, it's painly slow on this machine (eee 1000h)16:10
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: false (:16:10
MetaMorfoziSi have tried 4.216:10
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: it's all about how you set it16:10
sdoqhi! what are the voip app on linux that can held a 3-way conference in a pc-to-pc call?16:10
portatileHello!16:10
bazhanghi16:10
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: I use KDE 4.2 in laptop with 128 MiB ram etc16:10
MetaMorfoziS(I wan't to change to kde4, so not my religioon is this:))16:10
portatilelist!16:10
portatile!list16:10
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots16:10
MetaMorfoziSTm_T > i'm intrested in that how you do that16:10
bazhang!it16:10
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:10
MetaMorfoziSi have 2gb, intel atom 1.6ghz (atom)16:11
MetaMorfoziSand it was slow as pain.16:11
MetaMorfoziSkmenu means: a rectangle with the contents of my raw memory wait(2000) then the nice shiny menu16:11
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: first, just install only what you need, then remove all unneeded animations etc16:11
MetaMorfoziSi have tried that (imho), i also tied to changing between xaa/exa16:11
MetaMorfoziSthe best irritating thing is the alt-f2 menu's delay16:12
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: hmm, you use "effects" ?16:12
MetaMorfoziSit was only usable when compositing is on, exa16:12
Tm_Tah16:12
Tm_Twell, KDE4 isn't heavy unless you make it to be16:12
MetaMorfoziSi have tried both (effects on:exa, effoff:exa, effon:xaa, effoff:exa)16:12
Tm_Twill make reasonable list about things when I get around with it, now I have to go ->16:13
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MetaMorfoziSI'm really intrested in it16:13
umarhow to play 3gp audio in ubunto16:13
MetaMorfoziSi just loves my hardy setup, with my kde3 config16:13
MetaMorfoziSbut i'm intrested in intrepid's new things16:13
bazhangkde4 is superb16:14
umarwhere from i download16:14
bazhangits standard in 8.1016:14
bazhang4.116:14
MetaMorfoziSbtw, my face was: ":S" when i sav that it uses mysql16:15
umari cant find it any one can help me16:15
bazhang3gp?16:16
MetaMorfoziSyou want to play 3gp?16:17
umaryes 3gp aduio16:17
MetaMorfoziSmplayer and vlc can do that, but without sound.16:17
MetaMorfoziSyup, you need to recompile mplayer with amr_wb and amr_nb libs in it16:17
umaryes the problem of sound16:17
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=660088116:17
MetaMorfoziSi have succeed with it one time:D (one from about a thousand:)16:18
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umarbut how to play work sound ?16:19
MetaMorfoziSamr is the sound codec, that isn't in mplayer or vlc by default because of it's license thing16:19
MetaMorfoziSso you need to compile mplayer with amr_wb by yourself...16:20
umarhow ?16:20
aPpYesdoes the kubuntu livecd have a similar automated liveusb maker as the ubuntu one does?  I am googling around and cannot seem to find a straight answer.16:20
aPpYesI am wanting to get kubuntu on my msi wind.16:21
MetaMorfoziSaPpYes > unetbootin16:21
MetaMorfoziS!unetbootin16:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about unetbootin16:21
MetaMorfoziSi just tried...:(16:21
dr_Willisunetbootin is not the same :) but it works very well16:21
dr_Willisit dosent make a persistant save file however.16:21
MetaMorfoziSyup...16:22
dr_WillisYou could use the live-usb maker tool in Ubuntu and give it a Kubuntu.iso file . and it would make a kubuntu live -thimbdrive16:22
dr_Willisor xuybuntu16:22
aPpYesMetaMorfoziS: so the feature is not built in to the livecd?  I dont' want to have to go through the entire install on another computer just to install unetbootin and make the usbstick.16:22
dr_Willisunetbootin has a windows verison also. :) you could use that.16:23
aPpYesi will give it a try.  It knows how to make a 8.10 Kubuntu (not ubuntu) liveusb?  I saw  ubuntu 8.10 on the list at their site, but not kubuntu.16:24
corradosorry quale è il canale italiano16:24
dr_Willisunetbootin can do kubuntu also.16:25
dr_Willisjust point it to a kubuntu iso file16:25
Slartibartfast!it16:25
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:25
corradotnk16:25
aPpYescool thanks.  I will get started then!16:26
ehirdHi, how can I get a mighty mouse and wireless apple keyboard working in the livecd?16:27
ehirdI can't do any configuration because I'd have to use them...16:27
umari cant under stand ..................................................its tu tu that ,,,,,,,16:27
dr_Willisthose are Bluetooth ehird ?16:28
ehirddr_Willis: Yep.16:28
_karo_in kde 4.2, when i add applications from the kde menu to the panel, where does thing store the information about the apps that are in my panel?16:28
_karo_i'd like to add a custom app shortcut to the panel...16:29
dr_WillisBluetooth in kde 4.1 had issues last i heard. not sure if its better in 4.2 or not16:29
MetaMorfoziSapt-get install kubuntu-desktop: 634 new packages, 1463mb unextracted data:)16:29
dr_WillisFun!16:29
MetaMorfoziSwoes! ubuntu--desktop: 875new pkg, 1907mb unextracted stuff:)16:30
ehird[16:29:07] <dr_Willis> Bluetooth in kde 4.1 had issues last i heard. not sure if its better in 4.2 or not16:31
ehirdI plan to upgrade to 4.216:31
ehirdbut I can't if I can't boot up16:32
dr_WillisYep.. catch 2216:32
ehirdOh well, I'll use a USB mouse/kb. :(16:32
ehirdIt'll only be for a little16:32
dr_Willisalways handy to have backups16:32
* ehird digs them up16:32
dr_WillisI have spare ps2 keyboards/mice i often have to use16:32
ehirdis rEFIt still needed to install on a mac?16:32
dr_WillisNo idea.. the only Mac I have - works well as a doorstop16:33
ehird:-)16:33
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MetaMorfoziSdr_Willis > :D16:39
WalzmynI just fired up the laptop and have 90 updates - what's going on?16:40
shadeslayerKubuntu??16:40
shadeslayeryeah,all of them are KDE i think16:40
Walzmynyes16:40
jharrisI installed kubuntu-desktop on my mythbuntu box, but I don't have KDE in my sessions menu, and it's not using kdm for the login manager...any hints?16:41
shadeslayersome like Dolphin and k3b16:41
WalzmynI was just wondering if they'd rolled over something big16:41
shadeslayerbut 75 pc is KDE16:41
shadeslayernew icons and all16:41
Walzmynjharris, did you do a format and install?16:42
Slartibartfastjharris sudo apt-get install kdm16:42
jharrisWalzmyn: format? as in the partition? certainly not.  I din't have any kde packages prior to this16:42
jharrisSlartibartfast: KDM is *installed*, it's just not running by default.  I can do /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then start kdm16:43
shadeslayerjharris: i have the exact problem minus kdm16:43
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shadeslayeri dont know what happened after the update16:43
jharrisshadeslayer: you don't have a KDE option in the sessions menu either?16:44
shadeslayeri have kubuntu though16:44
shadeslayeryeah16:44
Slartibartfastjharris, maybe a sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ?16:44
jharrisSlartibartfast: thanks will try that16:44
shadeslayeri only have failsafe and default16:44
shadeslayeri think adept removed kubuntu desktop16:44
bazhangthat wouldnt do it16:45
Slartibartfastnormaly installing another xdm manager will invoke a script where you can choose which you want to use16:45
jharrisI get: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: kdm is broken or not fully installed...oops!16:45
Slartibartfastjharris, mmm let me see ...16:46
jharristhen when I try to install kdm with aptitude, I get:16:46
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jharriskdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7) but it is not installable16:46
bazhangis kwin installed16:47
jharrisbut the suggested solution is to install kdebase-workspace-data (thought it was uninstallable??)16:47
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jharrisclearly my installation did not go well...I don't recall seeing error messages, and since my system was clean of any kde prior to this, I'm a  bit surprised16:48
bazhangthis is 4.1?16:48
jharrisno, 4.216:48
shadeslayeranyidea for my problem??16:48
shadeslayer*any idea16:48
MetaMorfoziSTm_T > where (and maybe when) you publishes that howto/list?16:49
jharrislooks like the installation quit early, because "aptitude install kde" wants to install over 100 packages!16:49
jharrisI guess that solves it...16:49
Slartibartfastjharris well the package kde is for kde 4.1.x16:52
littlefeethas anyone ever actually gotten a b43xx wireless to work ,ive seen all kinds of help of peeps saying they got there wireless to work this way or that, but have yet gotten one of the methods to work'16:52
shadeslayer:)16:52
littlefeeti think there all living in a dream land'16:52
jharrisSlartibartfast: I ADDED A 3RD PARTY REPO16:52
jharrisoops forgive the caps16:53
Slartibartfastthe ppa ?16:53
jharrisSlartibartfast: yes16:53
Slartibartfasti have that too ... also running kde 4.2 ... but the package kde still pointing to kde 4.1.x16:53
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SlartibartfastDepends: kde-core (>= 5:48ubuntu1), kdeedu (>= 4:4.1.1), kdegames (>= 4:4.1.1), etc etc16:54
jharrisSlartibartfast: interesting...maybe because I originally did "install kubuntu-desktop", which put me on 4.2?  I'm watvching 4.2 packages scroll by atm...16:54
bazhangkubuntu-desktop would give you 4.116:55
Slartibartfastaha ... ok ... sound ok then :-) ... hope it will fix it16:55
Slartibartfastbut i did here just an "apt-cache show kde"16:56
shadeslayerwell that list every kde app out there16:57
sunfridgehiho16:58
Slartibartfast shadeslayer "This metapackage includes all the official modules released with KDE"16:58
Slartibartfastits a meta package16:59
jharrisok, here goes...going to log out and restart X...BTW, how do I restart X?17:00
_karo_ctrl-alt-backspace17:00
jharristhx17:00
jharrisand thx Slartibartfast17:00
Slartibartfastjharris np17:01
Kbeville1a very good day to all...... my xbmc media center keep timing out whatz that about....17:01
Kbeville1a very good day to all...... my xbmc media center keep timing out whatz that about.... help help..........................................17:04
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dr_Williswowsers17:10
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halfsanehey all!   what tools should i use to resize my home partition (running low on space)17:16
St`hey all17:17
St`how are you ?17:18
St` i have kubuntu with kde 4.2 ... may i install the K Desktop Environment official modules from synaptic or it is better not to do it ??17:19
ct529halfsane: backup and then gparted / qtparted17:19
amgarchIn9KDE 4.2 arrived  to intrepid-backports, so everybody aptitude full-upgrade!17:21
vbgunzanybody know why toolbar icons default size is bigger than I actually set?17:21
amgarchIn9however at some point I got a message that compositing will be disabled because of low recourses, how do I enable that again?17:23
halfsanect529: what is qtparted for exactly, its page is down and not in repo17:24
halfsanect529: thanks for the help btw!17:24
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ct529halfsane: should be in rep .... wait17:26
ct529halfsane: should be in rep .... wait17:27
many_hi17:27
many_ every 117:27
St`amgarchIn9:  i can see from synaptic that there is  "the K Desktop Environment official modules" that i do not have .... i do not know if  it  is good17:27
ct529halfsane: yes, it is in Universe17:27
ct529halfsane: apt-get install qtparted17:27
ct529halfsane: well, sudo apt-get install qtparted17:27
many_excuse me i'm having some problems with my kubuntu release17:28
ct529halfsane: if you prefer sudo apt-get install gparted, because gparted is officially supported .... :) .... qtparted no17:28
amgarchIn9St`:  version 4.2 on most of them?17:28
halfsanect529: i will go with gparted, still couldnt find qt..17:29
halfsanect529: got the cant find error with apt-get as well17:29
halfsanect5s17:29
halfsanect529: thanks for the help!17:29
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ct529halfsane: have your tried sudo apt-get install gparted?17:30
St`from universe / 5:48ubuntu117:30
halfsanect529: i pulled gparted with adept17:30
ct529anyone using openoffice here?17:30
ct529halfsane: good ....17:30
ct529!qtparted17:30
ubottuqtparted is a !Qt/!KDE !GUI partitioning program. Use !Adept or !Synaptic to install or type « sudo apt-get install qtparted » in a console.17:30
many_hey guys can you help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:30
ct529I cannot write the symbol % in a formula .... is there a trick? I read the help but could not find a solution17:31
ct529many_: state the problem please17:31
BluesKajshift 517:31
St`amgarchIn from universe / 5:48ubuntu117:32
many_i have installed kunbuntu 6.à on my laptop where previously win xp was installed since kunbuntu is installed i can't play multimedia files use my wireless port17:32
ct529BluesKaj: hi there!17:33
ct529many_: which multimedia files17:33
ct529BluesKaj: I do not know why but it does not show in my openoffice ....17:34
many_any type mp3 mp4 videos dvd's and my wireless port doesn't fonction no more17:34
maco_any other jaunty users unable to start plasma today?17:34
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ct529many_: you have to install some players .... is the wireless switched on?17:36
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many_i can't switch it one anymore17:37
many_i meant switch it on!17:37
leoBonsoir ^17:37
leo^^*17:37
ct529BluesKaj: nope, it does not work in any way ....17:37
ct529many_: what version of kubuntu?17:37
many_bonsoir17:37
many_6.017:38
leoKubuntu, sérieux, c'est trop bien!17:38
maco_many_: 6.06, you mean?17:38
maco_leo: #kubuntu-fr17:38
leoJe viens tout juste de l'installer, mais je ne trouve absolument rien à redire.17:38
leoJ'adore o.o17:38
leothanks xD17:38
maco_ne parlais pas francais...uh...here17:39
many_yeahyeah17:39
many_6.0617:39
mefisto__6.06 is way too old17:39
maco_its goin end of life in a few months17:40
many_how may i update it to a newer version?17:40
maco_the update manager should give you an option to update 8.04, i think17:40
many_leo t'es franccais?17:40
ct529many_: I do not know about 606 sorry17:40
mefisto__!6.0617:40
ubottuUbuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.17:40
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Slartibartfast! fr| many_17:41
ubottumany_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr17:41
many_where do i find the update manager17:41
maco_many_: adept17:41
mefisto__!upgrade17:41
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes17:41
many_don't worry i'm able to speek english as well as french17:41
maco_many_: it's an english-only channel. i sent him to the french channel.17:41
many_the update fonction doesn't work17:42
ct529:(:(:(:( .... I cannot write the symbol % in a formula in opeoffice .... is there a trick? what the heck is happening on kubuntu?17:42
ct529(well, in openoffice in kubuntu)17:43
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mefisto__many_: see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades (enable "dapper-updates" repo, install "update-manager-core" then run "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop")17:46
enrico_ciao17:46
jharrisok, so I thought I had fixed my installation of kde 4.2, but now when I log into a kde session, I don't have a window manager.17:46
jharrisWhen I run kwin from a terminal, I get:17:47
jharriskwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kwin.so: undefined symbol: _ZTI26KDecorationFactoryUnstable17:47
enrico_ciao17:47
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josephyo17:48
jharrisany ideas about kwin error?17:48
josephghk17:48
josephi have in idea about kwin error17:49
Slartibartfastjharris looks like its already reported on launchpad as Bug 31164517:49
josephyou suck17:50
Slartibartfastjharris .. is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6506394 ... helpful ?17:52
jharrisSlartibartfast: thanks, I'll try it17:53
KomiaPoikahow can i mount read/write a ntfs hard drive?17:54
St`byezzzz17:54
SlartibartfastKomiaPoika, use ntfs-3g ?17:54
dr_Willisand the answer is... NTFS-3G17:55
dr_Willis:)17:55
mefisto__mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows17:55
dr_WillisThey really need to make some 'setup ntfs wizard' to help people out a bit17:55
draik_Where is the location of the .sudoers file?17:55
dr_WillisI rember to mount mine in the installer. :)17:56
ct529KomiaPoika: you should install the ntfs-3g package first17:56
dr_Willis /etc/sudoers is one...17:56
mefisto__dr_Willis: there is ntfs-config17:56
dr_Willisntfs-config dosent do a whole lot some times. :)17:56
jharrisok, here goes...17:56
Slartibartfastdraik_ edit with sudo visudo17:56
mefisto__dr_Willis: ok. it's always worked for me17:56
draik_Thanks dr_Willis and Slartibartfast17:57
dr_Willismefisto__,  if you want to mount a new ntfs drive to fstab and so forth.. it dont do that sort of task..  actually ive seen where it dont even do what its suppsoed to dio. :)17:57
mefisto__dr_Willis: I thought that's exactly what it does. adds a fstab entry and mounts it for you17:58
dr_Willisive watched it befor.. and it dident add one here.17:58
dr_Willisit did change one from ntfs to ntfs-3g17:58
Slartibartfastbetter also not mount a vista partion ...17:58
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Slartibartfastvista won't like17:59
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mefisto__Slartibartfast: what about mounting ro ? does vista still not like?18:01
dr_WillisI have had very few problems with ntfs  and ntfs-3g.. but i also know to not hibernate/suspend windows.. and force the ntfs to mount18:01
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Slartibartfastmefisto__ i am not really sure. i just won't recommend it ... vista-ntfs is a next generation ntfs ... i and when booted the "old way" it won't start up anymore18:03
dr_WillisIm using windows 7 here. and mount the filesystem with  ntfs-3g all the time. No hassles. I did notiuce that all the 'read ext2/3' tools for vista dont work under Windows7 :(18:04
mDemocritusi've been unable to find this with google... i'm trying to change the application icon for firefox. running kubuntu hardy. where should i change it? i've tried changing the symlinks in /usr/share/pixmaps, but no luck.18:04
mefisto__mDemocritus: where is the icon?18:06
dr_WillisYou mean the icon in the menus?18:07
dr_WillisOr the one shown when the program runs in the title/other places?18:07
mDemocritusmefisto__: it's in my home dir, but i also copied it to /usr/share/firefox/icons18:08
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mefisto__mDemocritus: you're talking about an image? or a clickable icon that starts firefox?18:11
mDemocritusmefisto__: the image18:11
mDemocritusmefisto__: i changed it in avant, so the launcher shows the new icon, but when firefox is running it's still using the old icon for the open window18:12
mefisto__mDemocritus: if it's the icon in kmenu you want to change, you can set it in menu editor18:12
mDemocritusmefisto__: tried that too... menu editor locks when i try it18:12
mDemocritus:(18:13
mDemocritusmefisto__: i've logged in/logged out, restarted x18:13
mefisto__mDemocritus: so you want to change the icon shown in the firefox titlebar?18:13
mDemocritusmefisto__: that'd be nice, but all i really care about is the icon in avant that links to the open window18:14
mDemocritusmefisto__: seems to me that that's a setting deeper within the system, hence my trying to change the simlinks in /usr/share/pixmaps18:15
mefisto__mDemocritus: didn't you say you changed it in avant?18:15
dr_WillisI thought that icon was built into firefox, or in its files somewhere.18:15
dr_Willissomeone was asking a similer question the other day18:15
mefisto__mDemocritus: anyway, you could try searching for all instances of firefox.png and replacing them with the image you want18:15
mDemocritusmefisto__: i changed the icon in avant for the launcher, but it still shows the old icon for the running instance of firefox18:15
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wathek_hello all18:24
wathek_is there a way to remove windows from a machine which got a dual boot and to resize the Kubuntu partition so it uses the Windows partition ?18:25
shadeslayer!hi | wathek_18:25
ubottuwathek_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!18:25
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norenwathek_u want to completly remove windows or readjust the partition18:27
wathekcompletely remove windows18:27
wathekand readjust the linux partition18:27
noren!partition18:28
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted or !QtParted - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap18:28
mefisto__wathek: if I were you, I would delete the windows partition and replace it with a new ext3 partition rather than resizing. it will be much quicker, and safer18:28
norenmefisto__L i agree to that18:28
wathekmefisto__, I don't wanna have two partitions18:28
wathekI know I could do that it'll take less time18:29
norenwathek:  better to have two partition for the crisis situation u can use one of them for /home or  /data18:29
noren!Gparted18:30
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php18:30
watheknoren, yes you're right but my actual parititions table contains only two partitions the swap one and the root one18:30
dr_Willisif resizing a ntfs - i find that the vista tools for resizing them - are MUCH faster then the linux tools also.18:30
wathekdr_Willis, it's resizing an ext3 partition18:31
mefisto__dr_Willis: vista in particular? or windows tools generally?18:31
wathekmefisto__, vista18:31
norendr_Willis: i think he want to remove the windows partition and give the ssame space to linux18:31
dr_Willisresize it to zero? :)18:31
watheknoren, give the space of Windows to linux18:31
Slartibartfastwathek, if i were you i would use fdisk ... change the type of the partition and format it with mkfs.ext3 ...18:31
noren!Gparted | wathek18:32
ubottuwathek: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php18:32
watheknoren, yep I seen that18:32
dr_Willisyea. fdisk , delete the parittion remake it. change its type..  save changes.. exit.. format partition18:32
wathekSlartibartfast, yes but is there a way to link my actual root partition to the new one so that when the root is full it uses the new partition ?18:33
Slartibartfastand then mount as /home ... then when you re-install you will keep your personal files in /home18:33
Slartibartfasthow big is your / partiotion now /18:34
Slartibartfast?18:34
wathek120Go18:34
wathek12618:34
Slartibartfastwow ...18:34
wathekyep18:34
Slartibartfast:-D18:34
wathekand only 25 if it is free18:35
wathekand the Windows partition is 100 Go and I don't use Windows18:35
Slartibartfasta normal installation of Kubuntu can easely be in a 20 GB partiton ... the rest will get into /home ... probably18:35
mefisto__wathek: make the windows space your /home18:36
wathekmefisto__, have to resize the root partition too18:36
mefisto__wathek: it's very unlikely you'll ever use all that space for /18:36
Slartibartfastno need18:36
wathekSlartibartfast, my home folder is using the most of the root space18:37
wathekmefisto__, 90G only for /home18:37
Slartibartfastyes ... that happens here too :-)18:37
mefisto__wathek: move your /home to the new partition, and that will free the space it's taking up on / now18:37
Slartibartfastindeed18:38
wathekmefisto__, yes and then I resize the root partition so it'll be about 40 G18:38
wathekand then I resize the home partition to get the rest of the space18:38
norenya thats why i have kept my /home partion different18:38
wathekI think that that's the solution18:38
Slartibartfast20 GB is also more then enough18:38
alehandersciao18:39
wathek1- Delete the Windows Partition and make it an ext3 one18:39
Slartibartfastmaybe even 10 GB is already enough18:39
alehandersw ubuntu! xD18:39
wathek2- move my /home folder to the new partition18:39
alehanderswww.aems.altervista.org18:39
wathek3- resize the root partition18:39
norenfresh install on kubuntu took only 4gb in root18:39
wathek4- resize the /home partition18:39
wathekthanx guys18:42
mefisto__wathek: and edit fstab accordingly after making whatever changes you decide on18:42
wathekyep I'll need to add an entry to my fstab to mount my home partition18:42
Slartibartfastyou know it uses vol_id now ?18:43
wathekhow's that ?18:44
Slartibartfastwhen having reformated the partition with ext3 ... do a "vol_id /dev/sdX" ... it gives you a long number to use instead of /dev/sdX18:45
FFForeverwhere is the room for kubuntu-jaunty?18:45
mefisto__Slartibartfast: you mean fstab uses UUIDs ?18:45
Slartibartfastyes18:45
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wathekSlartibartfast, and what's the difference ?18:45
mefisto__Slartibartfast: you can still use /dev/sdX18:45
Slartibartfastno .. i mean to get the UUID is to use vol_id18:46
SuperMoosHello, I have no sound with Java in FireFox.  All of the flash games, etc have sound.  How would I fix that ?18:46
wathekSlartibartfast, ok thanx ;)18:46
austin_Every video file i run, shows video all flickered18:47
austin_what do i do to fix this?18:47
Slartibartfastmefisto__ well since 2.6.19 i think there was a change in hdX to everything sdX ...... since then everything changed .. what is SDA when installing seems to be SDC or SDB when booting the system18:48
Exilantaustin_: disable compositing18:48
austin_exilant: how?18:48
Exilantor use another video output18:48
austin_I'll try the compositing one...how do i go about doing that18:48
Exilanttheres a widget for turning it on and off18:49
mefisto__Slartibartfast: that's a separate issue. that problem can be sorted by editing /boot/grub/device.map18:49
Exilantsome shortcut key18:49
Exilantand somewhere in system-settings->desktop18:49
dr_Willisif using thumnbdrives and stuff. some times sda and sdb and so on can jump ariound this is why the fstab and grub are slowly gettting changed to use UUID type  informatin18:51
ehirdIs there a way to give kde3 apps the oxygen theme, using kde4?18:52
Slartibartfastmefisto__ OK .. but it still needed some extra tweaking when using only /dev/sdX or /dev/hdX ... when booting after installation .....  at the time there where no UUID's used in fstab18:52
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mefisto__Slartibartfast: just curious. do you know if the change from hdX to sdX for all hard disks was ubuntu/debian only? or was it the kernel itself and therefore all distros?18:55
vitopomahi18:55
racecar56i don't have hardy yet, but kubuntu hardy is dying this october?18:56
vitopomai cant use samba in kubuntu18:56
vitopomadolphiin doesn't let me share any folder18:56
vitopomais there a bug?18:57
vitopomaor am i missing something?18:57
mefisto__!8.0418:57
ubottuUbuntu 8.04-LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04 - See !lts for more details.18:57
Slartibartfastmefisto__ as far as i know it was from the kernel ... the big distro's changed then to use unique ID's for HD's ... like Suse uses now /dev/disk/by-id/ .. only last time i used debian they still kept /dev/hdX18:57
vitopomaapart this kde4.2 is great18:58
vitopoma:)18:58
mefisto__racecar56: ^^ hardy is LTS (long term support) release. which means support lasts for 3 years if I"m not mistaken18:59
Dragnslicerracecar56- I believe that Kubuntu 8.04 is officially supported until October, but Ubuntu 8.04 is supported for another couple years, so the only packages that won't be supported anymore should just be KDE 3.518:59
Slartibartfast!lts18:59
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.18:59
racecar56nuuuuuu why does kde 3 have to die? its rock stable19:00
vitopomamaybe i have to configure something to make samba work in dolphin?19:00
DragnslicerThe LTS situation for 8.04 got a bit confusing because of KDE 319:00
vitopomal am a newbie..19:01
Exilantis 8.04 now lts?19:03
Exilantfirst it was, then not, now i'm running 8.04.219:03
SlartibartfastExilant,  8.04.2 as well as 8.0.419:04
martijn81vitopoma: hi, i guess samba does not work at all under dolphin19:04
martijn81you need konqueror for this19:04
Slartibartfast8.0.4.2 just has some updated packages so you won't have to install 200+ updates19:04
NigelSmartijn81: what do you mean? samba works fine with dolphin19:05
vitopomait doesnt work even in konquerorr for me19:05
NigelSvitopoma: do you actually have samba installed?19:05
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vitopomayer19:05
mefisto__vitopoma: is samba installed? I think it should be by default19:05
vitopomayes i installed also kdenetwork-share19:06
NigelSvitopoma: are you sure - you prob don't have smbd and nmbd - dpkg -l \*samba\*19:06
vitopomasamba for me works in nautilus19:06
* Slartibartfast need to go19:07
vitopomai think the problem is kdenetwork-share19:07
vitopomai can't change the settings of samba inside the control panel19:08
NigelSvitopoma: I'm not sure that it works properly - but with manual modification of /etc/samba/smb.conf I've had no problem browsing and sharing19:08
vitopomawith konqueror?19:08
NigelSvitopoma: with dolphin or any program19:08
vitopomawhen in dolphin i want to share a folder it says me i have to configure samba19:10
vitopomai insert the root password19:10
vitopomaand nothing happens19:10
vitopomait doesn't open kcmshell ksambaconf19:11
mefisto__kcmshell4 ?19:11
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vitopomayes19:11
NigelSvitopoma: with dolphin 1.2 in kde 4.2, I can go to right click --> properties --> sharing tab --> configure file sharing and then choose to add a new folder19:11
olewolfKopete won't connect to MSN Messenger on my girlfriend's computer, but it works on mine. Apparently I'm running kopete v. 0.70 and her kopete is version 0.60.4. I added the experimental launchpad repos at one time on my computer. Can someone tell me whether 0.60.4 is the official release for intrepid?19:12
vitopomawhat version of kdenetwork-share do you use?19:12
Luijahello guys19:13
Luijai have a question19:13
Luijai have a desktop computer19:13
Luijaso what version of kubuntu should i install19:13
Luijastandard pc or 64 bit?19:13
vitopomawhat version of kdenetwork-filesharing do you use?19:13
Exilantdepends on wether it is a 64 bit machine...19:13
user6#windows19:14
Exilantstandard will work in any case19:14
NigelSvitopoma: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu419:14
mefisto__Luija: 32bit will work on both19:14
ubuntu_hi19:14
Luijayes¡19:14
Luijai mean19:14
Luijayes19:14
Luijaok19:14
Luijathx :)19:14
NigelSvitopoma: this is with 8.10 and kde 4.2 packages19:14
vitopomai use 4.4.219:14
ubuntu_i need to perform a "REAL LOW LEVEL FORMAT" please tell me some utility i can use for that19:15
NigelSvitopoma: in any event, adding the share to /etc/samba/smb.conf and then doing a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart will work19:15
vitopomacan i install your version in kde 4.2?19:15
NigelSvitopoma: you should also set "share" level security if you want what windows calls "simple file sharing"19:15
frozenfoxxHave a Kubuntu 8.10 installation (KDE4 variant) that just did an upgrade and broke the X server.19:16
frozenfoxxManually installed the latest ATI binary driver, Xorg.0.log doesn't complain about not finding a video device19:16
frozenfoxxSound familiar to anyone?19:16
vitopomathank you19:17
NigelSfrozenfoxx: what does grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log  show?19:17
mefisto__vitopoma: does      kcmshell4 fileshare    work for you?19:17
Luija!kubuntu-es19:18
Luijawtf19:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-es19:18
vitopomaonly when i open it in a terminal19:18
mefisto__!es19:18
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:18
Luijalol19:18
Luijathx19:18
frozenfoxxNigelS: Dunno, it'll be up in a minute (long network load, wifi), I'll tell you in just a second19:19
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mefisto__vitopoma: I also cannot get the gui to add a shared folder in 4.219:19
NigelSI think the samba gui is basically broken atm, best to not rely on it - I noticed that settings weren't sticking19:20
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mefisto__ubuntu_: what do you mean by "real low level format"? you're concerned about leaving data behind? or something else?19:22
ehirdmefisto__: I think he means he wants a multiple-zeroing formatty thing.19:22
vitopomaso there is a bug in kdenetwork-filesharing.. I'll try to install 4.4.1.2 version. is it safe?19:25
frozenfoxxNigelS: From the "EE" it looks like "Loading extension MIT-Screen-Saver" and "(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch19:26
frozenfoxxNigelS: Suppose I was wrong, could be the video drivers, but I don't see how unless the ATI 9.2 driver breaks compatibility19:26
frozenfoxxAnd actually it broke even before that, with the 8.5 drivers installed.19:27
ubuntu_mefisto, i mean a real low level format not just wipe the disk with zeroes, im already performing a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda,  its been 20 minutes since then and the program is still working19:27
mefisto__frozenfoxx: does it fall back to console login? or just black screen19:27
ubuntu_mefisto, i want to get rid of bad blocks19:28
frozenfoxxmefisto__: console19:28
frozenfoxxmefisto__: If I could remember how to get apt-get to completely reset the Xorg package without breaking stuff (not sure if a dpkg-reconfigure would do this properly) I suppose I could try to reset the package and reinstall the ATI driver.19:29
NigelSfrozenfoxx: sounds like the installation of your drivers was borked somehow - was your xorg.conf changed and when you did the manual install was that with the ubuntu package installed?19:29
NigelSfrozenfoxx: I'd purge any fglrx packages, ubuntu or ati and then retry - did you install with a buildpkg command?19:29
ubuntu_why is the internet full of people asking how to low level format, and all responses is "thats dangerous dont do it" tell how to low level format or just shut up stop lecturing us19:30
ubuntu_gr19:30
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ehirdgoauld: complaining will make people help you more.19:31
goauldim just tired of people asking why i want to do something instead of telling yes or no19:33
goauldlol19:33
frozenfoxxNigelS: to my knowledge (it's my wife's system) she was running proprietary drivers only, so I'm guessing that with the upgrade a new X must've broken it.19:34
frozenfoxxNigelS: I'll try to have it remove the ati drivers and any fglrx packages.  I haven't used buildpkg, but how can I get the xorg.conf back to the stock state from the package maintainer (or have it autoconfig)?19:34
goauldill ask in debian they are the real professionals19:34
frozenfoxxNigelS: Been awhile, sorry about the question.19:34
omer_How can I change my distro's language?19:35
NigelSgoauld: sometimes it's a legitimate question since people don't always know what they're doing well enough to know there's a better way; also your terminology is a little odd - if you want to erase data irrecoverably you can have a go with shred which will make multiple passes writing zeros to a drive19:35
draik_How can I add automatic mounting to the hard drives in my computer?19:35
frozenfoxxdraik_: Lookup modifying the /etc/fstab19:35
goauldnigeis, its not people's problem whats the result of my doings19:35
NigelSfrozenfoxx: dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg19:36
frozenfoxxNigelS: Nice, gonna jot that down in my admin manual...19:36
goauldnigeis, that is like asume everyone is stupid and taking lots of steps before give the help19:36
NigelSgoauld: actually it is since they don't want to waste their time with a solution that turns out to be for a problem other than the one described so asking people to talk about what they're trying to accomplish is not so unreasonable now is it?19:36
NigelSfrozenfoxx: with -phigh you're asked some questions, -pcritical should ask none and give a basic file19:37
mefisto__frozenfoxx: you'll probably need to remove all ati drivers and reinstall just one of them19:37
mefisto__frozenfoxx: fglrx that is19:38
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NigelSfrozenfoxx: so my recommendation would be - purge fglrx (if installed manually I think you have to use their installed to uninstall) and also apt-get remove any ubuntu fglrx packages.  you may want to reinstall the dri packages to be sure that's in a consistent state - then get the fglrx 9.2 installer and run with -buildpkg Ubuntu/Intrepid (assuming that's your version)19:38
NigelSfrozenfoxx: that'll give you a load of .debs which you can install -also run aticonfig to have the xorg.conf sorted out for fglrx19:39
goauldnigeis, you are right, people is stupid and when they ask about a specific information to do something is because the underlaying problem is another and easier to fix19:39
NigelSfrozenfoxx: depending on your chipset (r500 etc) the OSS driver might even support full accel now19:39
mefisto__frozenfoxx: and if possible, install without catalyst - just the driver19:39
frozenfoxxNigelS: Gotcha.  It's a X1600 so I think it's a r600, but honestly I don't watch the hardware that close to know for certain.19:40
* frozenfoxx goes to implement aforementioned changes.19:41
draik_frozenfoxx: Is there a method I can use to make sure I don't mess it up in any shape way or form?19:41
NigelSfrozenfoxx: the r600s are the moden 2000 series, the r700s the 400019:41
frozenfoxxdraik_: Well, if you *don't* touch what's in there now it should be fine, just add to the bottom.19:42
frozenfoxxNigelS: Huh, guess it might a r500 now after all.  Full acceleration with radeonhd?19:42
NigelSfrozenfoxx: possibly - check out http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature which lists the capabilities at present of the radeon and radeonhd OSS drivers19:43
mefisto__frozenfoxx: lshw -C display    will tell you what you have19:43
frozenfoxxmefisto__: R53019:43
mefisto__frozenfoxx: this place might be of help too: http://wiki.cchtml.com/19:44
NigelSfrozenfoxx: cool that should be supported by the latest radeonhd to a good extent - requires some settings in xorg.conf though AccelMethod Exa for example - it's on their wiki - generally with ati cards its best to try the options and see which works best - fglrx has horrendous bugs but might be better for now than radeonhd or maybe RHD is great for r500 now :)19:45
frozenfoxxNigelS: Thanks for the tip.  I'm working on getting through the earlier steps now though before I get ahead of myself. :)19:47
NigelSfrozenfoxx: hehe, well just having that minimal xorg.conf should get you a display since it will default to the radeon driver19:47
harjot!mount manager19:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mount manager19:54
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frozenfoxxNigelS: You said to reinstall the DRI packages to make sure they're in a good state, don't suppose you know offhand which packages control DRI?19:57
frozenfoxxI've decided to give the OSS drivers a shot since, honestly, we like OSS19:57
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Guest7543hola19:58
NigelSfrozenfoxx: libgl1-mesa-dri and I'd just check that those features for r500 are in the current ubuntu version - some of them might only be in the development code which is yet to hit Intrepid20:00
harjot!mountmanager20:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mountmanager20:00
antonio_hola20:03
antonio_hace unos días instalé en mi ordenador el kubuntu, pero no consigo abrir mi correo electonico de hotmail20:04
draik_!es | antonio_20:05
ubottuantonio_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:05
antonio_alguien puede decirme que pasa, hago klic en el mensaje pero no se abre20:05
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moebiusmsg20:08
antonio_hola soy de madrid20:10
moebiushola soy de bloomington20:11
antonio_hace poco instale kubuntu20:11
antonio_no consigo abrir mis e-mail de hotmail20:11
antonio_cuando hago klic el mensaje no se abre20:12
antonio_que puedo hacer?20:12
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moebiuspart20:14
moebiusquit20:14
donatменя видно?20:21
donatнаверно нет..20:21
mefisto__!ru20:24
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:24
devilsadvocatehi.. i have a bit of a problem. my kontact sort of crashed (somewhat randomly) the last time i tried to open it with a bunch of errors that suggested the filesystem wasnt writeable. now when i start it i dont see my disconnected imap accounts there. any hints on how to get it back?20:25
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frozenfoxxNigelS, got some more fun if you don't mind a few more minutes...while X itself comes up now (purged fglrx, ati, dri, and reinstalled dri and radeonhd) it complains there's no .xsession or .Xsession in the user's home20:29
frozenfoxxNigelS: True enough, I don't see one, but I have no idea how that would've gotten obliterated.  Any way to just regenerate one?20:30
Exilantcp the one from /etc/skel20:30
Exilantif there is one20:30
frozenfoxxHmm, strange though, I don't see one of those in another working installation I'm using right now.20:31
frozenfoxxExilant: Don't see one there20:31
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frozenfoxxI would've imagined that running up /etc/init.d/kdm would take care of these issues, but it dies, too20:33
frozenfoxxSays /usr/bin/kdm isn't there...20:33
mefisto__frozenfoxx: do you have /etc/X11/Xsession  ?20:34
frozenfoxxmefisto__: Yes, and there's a Xsession.d as well20:34
frozenfoxxI suppose I could just tell it to reinstall KDM20:37
mefisto__frozenfoxx: maybe try removing any reference to ~/.xsession from /etc/X11/Xsession  or try creating an empty .xsession file to stop the message ?20:37
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frozenfoxxmefisto__: I could, but there isn't a .xsession file of any kind on my functional Kubuntu install, so I figure that shouldn't be what it's *really* complaining about.  kdm not being in /usr/bin is really troubling20:38
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frozenfoxxAh, the wife tells me now that something *bad* happened with kdm when updating...must've been it.20:39
mefisto__whereis kdm  ?20:39
frozenfoxxOn that system...it's not there, apparently.  Going to try removing the package and resinstalling20:39
mefisto__kdm does work still?20:39
frozenfoxxmefisto__: No, that's what I'm saying20:40
frozenfoxxAh, says it's completely gone...very nice.20:40
Guest60144wow ..  i found a chat ... whats up people ~~20:40
frozenfoxxKubuntu things.20:40
Guest60144how do i change my name in here ?20:41
mefisto__/nick your-new-nick20:41
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StretchedOutTHanks allot20:42
StretchedOuti just got a new Msi- Mobo,   and a 3.1 dualcore AM 64 and 8gigs of SLI ocz ram20:43
StretchedOutRUNNIN dual boot with vista ultimate and now Ubuntu20:43
StretchedOutLoving it20:44
noren!shutdown20:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about shutdown20:44
draik_frozenfoxx: What am I to put into my fstab?20:45
draik_I've been trying to find something but can't20:45
norenis there any script for timed shutdown of system20:45
norendraik_: hi whats up20:46
draik_noren: Hi. I'm just trying to put an automount for my 3 other HDDs20:47
frozenfoxxdraik_: Just something to keep in mind for future research check out a "man fstab" for all options20:48
frozenfoxxdraik_: Also you can usually reference the other lines for your hard drives for something to modify20:48
mefisto__noren: kde4.2 ?20:48
norenmefisto__: yes20:48
frozenfoxxdraik_: Such as a line "/dev/sda4 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1" will mount up the first sd drive (hard drive) that it sees to /, ext3 as the file system, and will remount it as read-only if it screws up bad20:49
mefisto__noren: you could go to systemsettings> task scheduler  and add /sbin/shutdown to run when you want it to20:49
frozenfoxxdraik_: In yours you probably see a lot of "UUID=<hairy-looking alpha-numerics>"20:50
mefisto__frozenfoxx: shouldn't that last 1 be 0 for root partition?20:50
frozenfoxxdraik_: That's just a "better" way of referencing the drive since it'll be consistent regardless of when it's detected on bootup20:50
StretchedOutlol20:50
frozenfoxxmefisto__: It's not on mine, but honestly I have no idea since normally I mess with NFS and Solaris mounts.20:51
norenmefisto__: dont see any option llllike that there20:51
mefisto__noren: you don't have task scheduler? it's in the advanced tab on mine20:51
frozenfoxxdraik_: I'd love to tell you how to get the UUID for your hard drive partitions, but I don't remember.  Yahoo/Google/Live should know, though20:51
StretchedOutwhere can i go to get really cool themes.  i seen one someone had, it was a neoluminesence ...20:52
mefisto__noren: is kcron installed?20:52
norenmefisto__: i have service manageer session manageeer20:53
frozenfoxxdraik_: That should get you started, though.  I know it's a little complicated, but really after you start to get the hang of it it's not hard.20:53
noren!theme20:53
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy20:53
frozenfoxxdraik_: My *big* recommendation is that after getting your /etc/fstab how you like, make a copy to keep in your home directory for backups20:53
frozenfoxxdraik_: That way you can always rebuild and not have to say, "Oh, s.o.b., how was that done?"20:53
mefisto__draik_: sudo vol_id /dev/sda1  (for example)20:54
mefisto__draik_: to get UUID that is20:55
frozenfoxxmefisto__: Very nice20:55
draik_frozenfoxx: Right now, I'm saying "fudge! Shooty backup failed"20:56
frozenfoxxdraik_: Yeah, I've got something like that at work right now, only dealing with tapes.  :(20:56
draik_I lost all of my music, all of my pictures, all of EVERYTHING. :'(20:57
frozenfoxxdraik_: Yeah, that happened to me once.  Now I backup everything a couple of ways.20:58
norendraik_: thats BAD :(20:58
noreneven i lost data worth 160gb then haaaad to usse file recovery i could only recover 40gb of that :(21:00
frozenfoxxdraik_: It may sound like overkill, but I've found a separate backup server with an external hard drive and a hardware RAID on your main media server + NFSv4 mounts = pretty happy setup.21:00
frozenfoxxOver time you can also set up a more robust internal and external RAID setup on the backup server.21:00
frozenfoxxBut I'd just get a BluRay burner and make hard copies21:00
noren!RAID21:00
ubotturaid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto21:00
draik_I'm going to get something setup as my backup server soon. Sis is getting rid of her old PC and that's my key to a backup server21:02
Duesentrieb_!suspend21:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend21:02
Duesentrieb_bah, bad bot foo.21:02
Duesentrieb_so, who can tell me how to get suspend/hiobernat back into my menu?21:02
kaddi!de21:06
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.21:06
kaddihi :)21:06
norenkaddi: hi21:07
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mefisto__noren: do you have kcron installed? task scheduler should show up in systemsettings if it is installed21:10
luis__ei, guys how i can install firefox in konsole??21:10
devilsadvocateluis__, sudo aptitude install firefox21:10
mefisto__noren: or   kcmshell4 kcm_cron21:11
luis__thx a lot guys :D21:11
_Whipperaptget install all :)21:11
ockonalhello21:12
ockonali think, that my sound is lower, than it was in Windows =)21:13
_Whipper\o21:13
ockonalI can't use that volume in Linux21:13
mefisto__ockonal: turn it down in windows :)21:13
ockonalmefisto_: :D21:13
_Whipperand i f**ng cant use this client.. :P21:14
ockonalWhipper: what client?21:15
_WhipperKonverstat.21:15
_Whipperthis sucks a lot21:15
mefisto___Whipper: what's wrong?21:15
_Whippercant get the confs the way i want in this client21:16
devilsadvocateockonal, check your PCM settings21:17
ockonaldevilsadvocate: where are them?21:17
devilsadvocateockonal, i usually do that on the command line21:17
devilsadvocateockonal, alsamixer21:17
ockonalalsamixer: are there any gui?21:17
mefisto__ockonal: kmix21:18
ockonalalsamixer: kMix?21:18
larsllockonal: kmix?21:18
ockonal:-D21:18
ockonalThanx21:18
mefisto__ockonal: you might have to right-click to enable some of the channels in kmix21:18
mefisto__ockonal: not enable, but to show them21:19
ockonalmefisto__: Ok, thanks. Now i know what to do21:19
_Whipperdmn.. beer and a fag, and back to basics :) >21:20
mefisto___Whipper: what settings are you looking for?21:20
_Whipperjust installed Sabayon on the othe machinae, thats.. umm.. quite interesting distro ;)21:20
_Whippermef: all ;)21:21
_Whippermef: just have to learn how to use this client, or try another..21:21
_Whipperbut now thatbeer and a fag21:22
mefisto___Whipper: there's a kde4 one called quassel you might want to try21:22
lokpesthmm, my Kaffeine tries to install some codecs when I try to watch something, but then says "Codec package is already installed" but then I cant watch anyway...21:22
_Whippermef: thnx, ill loo it up somewhere-in-time ;)21:22
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mefisto__lokpest: I get that occasionally21:23
lokpestok?21:23
mefisto__lokpest: usually closing kaffeine and restarting fixes it21:23
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lokpestmefisto__: hmmm, no, have been like that for a long period now21:24
kaddianyone using kde 4.2 on a laptop? my laptop freezes for a couple of secondes whenever it tries to display a "energy is low" message21:24
mefisto__lokpest: long period, like after reboots?21:25
lokpestyes21:25
kaddiit also resets my desktop brightness to the top21:25
kaddi:D21:25
mefisto__lokpest: on everything? or just DVDs?21:26
noren__i m trying to find something to speed up the Konqueror21:26
racecar56_i want to disable touch to click on kde 4.1.4 how do i do that?21:26
lokpestmefisto__: hmm, have not tested dvds, mostly webstreams21:26
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lokpestbut also local moviefiles iirc21:27
mefisto__lokpest: and you have the needed codecs installed?21:27
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lokpestmefisto__: well, it tells me I do21:27
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lokpestmefisto__: do you have any Idea whats the codec package for kaffeine?21:30
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mefisto__lokpest: do you have medibuntu repo added?21:30
lokpestno21:30
mefisto__!medibuntu21:31
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org21:31
mefisto__lokpest: if you add that repo, install non-free-codecs21:31
mefisto__lokpest: or try installing w32codecs (assuming you're not running 64bit)21:32
lokpestuhm, no thanks21:32
mefisto__?21:32
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* bye-bye-Whip walked away for-a-while21:32
racecar56_how do i disable tack to click?21:32
racecar56_*tap21:32
* lokpest has unchecked multiverse, if that is relevant by any way...21:32
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mefisto__lokpest: you don't want the codecs?21:33
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racecar56_how do i disable tap to click? im runnning kde 4.2 if that helps (i just upgraded)21:33
mefisto__racecar56_: what is it?21:34
lokpestmefisto__: not the non-free ones, I thought kaffeine was able to use something like the mplayer reversed enineered stuff21:35
racecar56_what's waht?21:35
mefisto__racecar56_: what's tap to click?21:35
racecar56_you tap the touchpad and it acts like you clicked21:36
mefisto__lokpest: if you don't have the non-free codecs, you can only watch video encoded with free codecs, no matter what player (except maybe vlc, which is considered non-free because it comes with non-free codecs :) )21:37
lokpestmefisto__: I thought mplayer hade reverse enineered codecs?21:38
mefisto__racecar56_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:39
mefisto__racecar56_: add this: Option "TapButton1" "0"21:39
racecar56_but xorg.conf way dosen't work/kills my system21:39
lokpestmefisto__: ok, so how do i tell Konq to use mplayer instead of kaffeine?21:39
mefisto__lokpest: does mplayer play the files you want?21:40
lokpestIdunno21:40
mefisto__lokpest: you can set defaults in systemsettings > file associations, or in konqueror settings, file associations21:40
mefisto__lokpest: I don't think that's true about mplayer. that would make it non-free21:41
mefisto__lokpest: it IS true of vlc, and that's why it's now considered non-free21:42
lokpestmefisto__: reversed engineerd codecs are free21:42
lokpest??21:42
mefisto__lokpest: as far as I know, mplayer doesn't install any codecs, just the player21:42
lokpestwell, mplayer-mozilla installs codecs iirc21:43
racecar56_ok i 'switched to kubuntu' by installing kubuntu-desktop and i want to get rid of the gnome stuff, what do i do?21:43
mefisto__racecar56_: intrepid?21:44
racecar56_yes21:44
mefisto__racecar56_: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde21:44
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* _Whipper returns..21:45
lokpesthmmm, will installing Ubuntu Hardy and then installing KDE make one have a KDE3-distro with longer support than oktober 2009??21:46
mefisto__lokpest: mozilla-mplayer is in multiverse, isn't it? so you won't have it if multiverse is disabled21:47
lokpestmefisto__: downloaded that package from website and installed manually21:48
lokpestits not non-free, just patent encumbered21:48
_Whipperin general, its a good idea check your repos Before trying anything :)21:48
mefisto__lokpest: and that would make it non-free, right? what else could it mean?21:48
lokpestno, just because its patent encumeberd does not mean its non-free21:49
mefisto__lokpest: so patented means free now?21:49
_Whipper;)21:49
reisiis it known issue that the latest intrepid with backports and proposed repos enabled is broken?21:50
wildbathow do i use skim in Konversation?21:50
mefisto__reisi: it could break, depends on what you install21:50
lokpestwell, if one would awoid all patent encumbered software, there wouldnt be a single program to run, not 1!21:50
mefisto__lokpest: that's not true at all21:51
lokpestyes21:51
_Whipperlok: u're so wrong21:51
lokpestthe linux kernel potentially inflicts on about 300 patents21:51
lokpestby a study made a few yeas ago21:52
_Whipperlok: now u r talking something out of this universe21:52
mefisto__lokpest: a study commissioned by microsoft, maybe?21:52
mefisto__lokpest: where is this study?21:52
reisimefisto__: kde-window-manager currently has a file that the latest kdebase-workspace-data is trying to overwrite, dpkg dies while aptitude safe-upgrade21:53
_Whippermaybe someone have heard abaout the conflict with MS and Suse...21:53
mefisto__lokpest: or is that study patented too, and secret?21:53
lokpestmefisto__: nope, RMS have mentioned it in his speeches21:53
_Whipperlol21:54
reisimefisto__: though, for some reason my kde-window-manager seems to be of 4.1.4, yet all other kde packages are from 4.2.. it should be noted that this has been upgraded through kubuntu 8.04 -> 8.10..21:54
lokpest_Whipper: ??21:54
_Whipperlok: nothing, sorry, i just could not help that :)21:55
* lokpest has a t-shirt that says "RMS is my homeboy :)" :-)21:56
mefisto__lokpest: http://www.pcw.co.uk/vnunet/news/2189971/torvalds-tells-microsoft-put21:57
* _Whipper hasnt got a shirt at all :) only a beer and jeans :)21:57
mefisto__:)21:58
mefisto__that's a nice image you put in my head, thanks _Whipper21:58
lokpestmefisto__: well, im not sayin that the linux kernel inflicts on MS patents...21:58
_Whipperand Linus in from Finland, so u cant mess with him :)21:58
lokpestbut the thing is... write code => inflict patents21:59
_Whipperor u'll be messing with me too :)21:59
mefisto__lokpest: that just doesn't make any sense. you're saying everything is non-free?22:00
_Whipperlok: u r making no sense what so ever, be more spesific22:00
lokpestmefisto__: depends, if you're saying that patent encumberd code is non-free, then yes then all code is non-free22:01
mefisto__!free22:01
ubottufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing22:01
lokpestbut I dont see code that is patent encumbered as nonfree22:01
_Whipperhmm..22:02
lokpestmefisto__: I know wery well what free software implies, and it has nothing to do whit patents per se (althoug patents is not 100% irrelevant)22:03
_Whipperlok: u should really do some more reading abaout free software before making such assumptions..22:03
lokpest_Whipper: dito22:03
mefisto__it would be a pretty crazy patent that allowed use in a way to make it "open-source"22:04
_Whipper:)22:04
mefisto__eg, modifying the code?22:05
lokpestnot what I said, but that have been thought about22:05
mefisto__ok, this is all probably way off-topic anyway22:06
lokpestyou dont patent code, you patent ideas22:06
lokpestfucking asshats that makes their online videos online in proprietary format :(22:06
mefisto__sssshhh22:06
_Whipperheh :)22:07
_Whippersomeone seems pretty upset abaout something..22:07
lokpestyes... I cant watch to video I want...22:07
mefisto__lokpest: you *could*22:08
_Whipperanyway, mefisto, what was the client u reffered ?22:08
mefisto__but you have that t-shirt :)22:08
mefisto___Whipper: quassel ? irc client?22:08
lokpestmefisto__: not without using nonfree software... and thats unethical22:08
* lokpest ponders on gNewsense some more...22:09
_Whippermef: jep, something like that, other than this s**t ;)22:09
Hamrahi, anyone here with a fresh install of kubuntu jaunty? or a ready VM to insert a jaunty liveCD and try something for me?22:09
kaddii have a suggestion for the frame-widget on kde4. :D I'd love to be able to doubleclick the current picture and get it opened in a viewer like gwenview? anybody willing to do this for me? :D22:10
mefisto__lokpest: "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." -Plato22:10
lokpestmefisto__: well, mabye somebody will make a ripp of the video and upload it to thepiratebay :-)22:12
mefisto__lokpest: maybe watching that video at all is "unethical"?22:13
lokpestwhy?22:13
mefisto__it's been touched by proprietary filth, and can never really be clean again :)22:14
lokpestmabye, but Im glad as long as I dont taint my system22:15
lokpestkthxbye22:15
_Whipperpretty damn good filosopfy u got there lok :)22:15
_Whipperdmn, just missed :)22:16
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kaddicu22:21
_Whippermm.. going to try some othe client, see u, or not :)22:22
srujanHas anyone ever heard of monodevelop22:23
srujanI have a couple questions of clarification22:23
fabianI'm testing Jaunty Jackalope - nice KDE 4.2!22:32
Schuenemannhi, I'm trying to rebuild the kernel and I get this error after I run make: no rule to process target "kernel/bounds.c", needed  for "kernel/bounds.s". Stop.22:36
Schuenemannwhat's wrong?22:36
Ch1ppyhey, can anyone help me get msn working in kopete? it currently won't let me sign in22:38
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danbasis a blu ray iso of the entire jaunty repo for AMD64 planned?22:39
danbasas is the case for lenny22:39
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_Whippersome beer and pizza now.. if that solves my problms.. :)22:53
SuspectZero!mp422:54
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:54
Ch1ppy!msn22:54
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin22:54
Ch1ppypsh, that doesn't help22:55
_Whipperpidgin is more like skype, dont like it..22:55
Ch1ppyNope, I don't like it either22:56
_Whippergood old Virc would be nice tho :)22:56
Walzmynhow is pidgin like skype?22:57
_Whipperi dont have the energy to response to that :P22:57
mefisto__Ch1ppy: firewalled?22:58
compilerwriterCan someone tell me please the keyboard shortcut to reverse video a window?22:58
frozenfoxxNigelS: mefisto__:  just wanted to let you guys/gals/whatevers know, I figured out the problem for my wife's Kubuntu installation22:58
frozenfoxxApparently during the upgrade she skipped over a question about kdm being upgraded and, somehow, the entirety of kubuntu-desktop got annihilated22:59
frozenfoxxReinstalling that + radeonhd drivers has made it even better than before (and actually better than my nVidia graphics system in some ways...smoother, more reliable 2D)22:59
mefisto__frozenfoxx: so you had more than just kdm missing22:59
_Whippernvidia sucks anyway, have it in my laptop, and...23:00
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frozenfoxxmefisto__: Yep, turns out all of KDE got erradicated.  How?  I have NO idea, but after reinstalling and rebooting (restarting X server wasn't enough) it came up just fine.23:06
frozenfoxxmefisto__: And those radeonhd drivers, stock, kick serious butt for the X1600 on the desktop.  There's no noticeable lag, which is something my nVidia driver GF7800GT can't claim23:07
NigelSfrozenfoxx: cool, glad to hear it - I'm looking forward to the drivers catching up with my rv630 card - be nice to have properly implemented opengl and what not - no more random fglrx nonsense like videos that can't play without a black band when compositing is going on23:07
NigelSyeah, it's a nice clean implementation on every level - I really like where the linux desktop could be in a few years23:08
kuaeraI'm excited about the next six months, actually23:08
kuaeraThe KDE desktop is getting cleaned up and Qt4.5 performance is very good23:08
mefisto__NigelS: I get a diagonal kind of flicker about every second in videos, with compositing on. is that what you see?23:09
kuaeraATi has better community support, so drivers there are getting better and better23:09
kuaeraAs the OS looks better as a whole, it attracts more intensive work, too.23:09
NigelSmefisto__: with fglrx, the latest, it's improved - instead of flicker there's now a black band! but yeah it's basically broken23:09
NigelSdesktop effects are unbearably slow with it and as for wine apps...pfft, I can forget that one :P23:10
NigelSbut by april the radeonhd and radeon guys will be really close to fully opengl support so we can finally kiss fglrx good bye :)23:10
mefisto__NigelS: I'm not brave enough to try the newest, after the hassle I went through getting the current one working :) maybe when jaunty is released23:10
NigelSmefisto__: it's straight-forward when you know the pitfalls but I take your point - it is a pita23:11
mefisto__NigelS: lazy, I should say. not really about being brave23:11
NigelSkuaera: I'm excited by that too - basically the front page of phoronix is exciting :) we can dream one day of linux 3d being faster than windows :P23:12
kuaeraIt is in some rare instances.23:12
kuaeraI know that Wine can very, very rarely run games faster than native windows, and all the DirectX calls are being translated into OpenGL23:13
Ch1ppyCan anyone help me with this: kdenetwork: Depends: knewsticker (>= 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1) but it is not going to be installed ??23:14
NigelSyeah, I've frequently had wine outperform windows - when you consider all the clutter that linux strips out from the overal OS that's not too surprising23:14
NigelSthe problem is the implementation of the 3d drivers - for both nvidia and ati the performancec is worse than the windows driver23:14
NigelSwith the OSS drivers...will be intersting to see what happens23:15
chris-rc1hi23:20
dragomirhi23:20
dragomir:)23:20
chris-rc1does anybody know the package name which the system monitor hdd plasmoid belongs to?23:20
mefisto__apt-cache search plasmoid-23:24
dragomirHi all23:25
dragomirI am new with ubuntu23:25
mefisto__chris-rc1: plasmoid-simplemonitor ?23:26
dragomirand I really like it,but I can't solve my sound problem.I don't have any sound with amsn and skype and with the sound recording23:26
dragomirany help will be appreciated23:28
dragomir:)23:28
chris-rc1mefisto__: did that and still don't know where it belongs23:29
chris-rc1dragomir: do you have any sound at all?23:29
dragomiryes23:29
dragomirthe players23:29
chris-rc1what system?23:29
dragomirhm23:29
dragomirthats good question23:30
dragomir:)23:30
chris-rc1ubuntu or kubuntu and which version23:30
dragomirok23:30
dragomirubuntu23:30
dragomirultra23:30
mefisto__does amsn and skype use oss sound?23:30
chris-rc1i think skype uses alsa23:30
dragomirsorry guys23:31
dragomirI really don't know all this23:31
dragomiras I said I like the sistem23:31
dragomirbut is very different than vista23:31
chris-rc1they are way behind the win version, but not that far that they would use sth like oss23:31
mefisto__dragomir: look in skype options, sound devices23:34
NigelSit might be as simple as the mic being muted...23:34
dragomiryes mefisto23:34
dragomirI did it23:34
NigelSwhich i suspect is the default23:34
chris-rc1dragomir: well, first of all, you might be better off in #ubuntu (sorry, standard answer)23:34
mefisto__dragomir: do you have more than 1 soundcard in the menus for sound in/sound out?23:34
oobei just did a fresh install of kubuntu 8.10 then upgraded to kde 4.2 and now the task bar at the bottom of the screen is only half length23:34
dragomirbut I don't have sound on the sound recorder aswell23:34
oobedoes anyone  know how i can make it bigger23:35
chris-rc1this is because the mic is off, NigelS is right23:35
NigelSoobe: you can drag the taskbar to any length you desire if you click on the plasmoid icon23:35
dragomiryes23:35
oobeah i see thanks23:36
dragomirbut I can't turn it on23:36
chris-rc1in the mixer?23:36
dragomiryeap23:36
mefisto__oobe: there is also maximize, in "more settings"23:36
chris-rc1why not?23:36
NigelSif you click on the speaker icon dragomir there's a button labelled mixer - when that opens you should see symbols for the microphone etc - are the mute options unticked?23:36
dragomirI am thinking23:36
dragomirI am with sonyvaio23:36
NigelS(the speaker icon is in the taskbar btw)23:36
dragomirmay be is some conflict with the drivers23:37
dragomiryes nigel23:37
dragomir:)23:37
chris-rc1and you have increased the volume?23:38
dragomiryes23:38
dragomirthe only sound I have is actually from the players23:38
chris-rc1well, if you have sound that means there is no conflict with the drivers23:39
dragomirit strange that with amsn I can't listen even the winks23:40
dragomirand can't play it23:40
chris-rc1i don't know about gonme, but in kde you do have to choose the input source23:40
chris-rc1gnome, obviously23:41
AndySpainhi!!  i have a little language problem here on KDE. I installed two languages: German and Spanish, so that both users could log into a kde in his/her native tongue...23:42
AndySpainbut somehow, it mixes them up a little23:42
AndySpainnot much but yes23:42
AndySpainI get on German login mostly German Texts but for expample the delay hiere in Konversation which is in German, is in Spanish23:43
AndySpainor pop up messages: they are in German. But the OK and CANCEL buttons are in Spanish23:43
AndySpain???23:43
mefisto__AndySpain: so you have german installed in one user, spanish in the other? or german and spanish in both?23:46
AndySpainboth in both23:46
AndySpainto choose language on login screen23:46
mefisto__ok23:47
chris-rc1AndySpain: try to set the languages in systemsettings again. maybe it helps...23:47
AndySpainat least that's what i thought it would be like23:47
AndySpainworked like this on gnomen ubuntu before23:47
AndySpainchris-rc1  deinstall language there and then install it again?23:48
mefisto__language is per-user, isn't it? or am I wrong about that? I only use one language23:49
chris-rc1just see whether they are set correctly there. try choosing another and then the first one again and click apply. i don't know, maybe it helps...23:50
AndySpainwork space - the transparent thing on desktop is called Desktop Folder  (English) . K-Menu is German, exept: the hibernate entry, this one's Spanish23:50
chris-rc1mefisto__: otherwise it doesn't really make sense...23:50
AndySpainLand/Region: Germany  Languages (in that order): German, Spanish, English23:51
AndySpainthe buttons there are 50% German 50% spanish23:52
chris-rc1what if you delete the other entries?23:52
AndySpainwell, I now changed order and restored order and clicked make German system language and then "Apply" - lets see if after restart it works23:54
AndySpainif not, I'll might consider deleting one. But actually I like changing languages myself as well23:54
dragomirwell thank you guys for your help23:54
AndySpainam in spain and if taling with spaniards, it's convenient to have spanish system23:54
dragomir:)23:54
AndySpainthank you23:54
mefisto__dragomir: did you get skype sound working?23:55
chris-rc1just wanted to ask :-)23:56
dragomirope23:56
dragomirnope23:56
dragomir:)23:56
dragomirothing23:56
dragomirnothing23:56
dragomirno sound pn the sound recorder23:57
mefisto__dragomir: and just one soundcard? it's a laptop, right?23:57
dragomiryes23:57
AndySpainchris-rc1  it's not really a big problem. i was just curious why it occurs. Had gnome setup with two languages, both ones being pure23:57
chris-rc1AndySpain: it's pretty annoying though23:57
AndySpainthat's why I'm here... ;-)   But it's only about 5 % of all entries that are either in Span or engl23:58
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scartissue.23:58
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AndySpainanyway, thank you chris-rc123:58
AndySpainam leaving now. Have a nice evening all!23:59

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