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slangasekjoey: any luck?00:11
joeyslangasek, narrowing in.  Appears to be a replication issue which manifests as a communication issue causing the access errors you see.00:11
bdmurrayDid the staging database name change?00:12
joeybdmurray, it might have last week but I don't have the answer to that at the moment.00:13
bdmurrayjoey: who would and how could I get notice when or before it happens?00:14
joeybdmurray, we made a split to the source branches but I wasn't aware of any changes to the name itself, but I've been out of the loop on that.  Best thing to do is email stub.00:15
joeyunless you need an answer now-ish for some reason00:15
bdmurrayjoey: I do have some reports that use the staging database00:17
joeybdmurray, the reason I ask is that the same people I need to ask are diagnosing the LP issues so I don't want to interrupt them.  I'll try to ask when they are done then.00:19
joey==> We've located a method to resolve the immediate issue but we're still investigating the cause.00:24
zachtibi'm having trouble with a build in my PPA... I uploaded it a while ago and it hasn't started, even though other things have (all on i386)00:27
joeyzachtib, the builders may be busy or,  unlikely, it might be related to the current performance problems we're working on00:29
joeyslangasek, bdmurray, mifritscher, et al - we're going to restart the entire LP world00:30
joeynow00:30
zachtibjoey: right, but it's been showing up as in queue for "1 hour" and starting in "1 hour" the whole time, it's very odd00:30
joeyok I'm being a bit overly dramatic :-000:31
zachtiband like I said, my other builds have started00:31
joeyzachtib, ah, I've seen that before. You might file a question against launchpad about it. I think there might already be a bug.00:31
joeyabout it00:31
joeyslangasek, bdmurray, mifritscher, et al - we think we have remedied the situation. Please report any timeouts00:36
bdmurrayjoey: thanks00:37
joeyslangasek, bdmurray, mifritscher, et al - we have a few more nooks and crannies to check but we think we got it all.  We're doing a final sweep now looking for errors.00:37
slangasekok, thanks00:39
joeybdmurray, have confirmation on the staging db name change00:47
joeygetting more info now00:47
bdmurrayawesome00:47
mrooneyHave I copied a PPA package wrong? I tried to copy it from Jaunty -> Intrepid in my PPA and get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python-central"00:53
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joeyremoved timeout notice00:54
maxbPurely a question out of interest: What is actually happening when there are queued builds, but some buildds show as "Idle"?01:17
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maxbClearly "Idle" isn't telling the full story - are they "Waiting for next time to poll the queue"? "Finishing some sort of post-build cleanup"?01:19
wgrantI suspect they're waiting for the slave scanner to come by them again.01:21
wgrant2.2.3 has some bug targetted about parallelising the slavescanner.01:21
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jmlwgrant: not only that, but people are actually working on it too :)01:27
wgrantjml: Oh, good. Lots of things get deferred...01:40
cody-somervillewgrant, this one won't01:42
wgrantcody-somerville: We can hope! Although I guess *you* can do more than hope.01:43
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ovnicrafthi folks, there is an official pastebin?03:06
ovnicraftor what # lines are accepted here?03:07
wgrantovnicraft: http://paste.ubuntu.com works.03:08
ovnicraftwgrant, how i can ignore files to push my project?03:12
ovnicraftso i dont want to push my .pydevproject :|03:12
wgrantovnicraft: I don't understand what you mean. How are you pushing it?03:12
ovnicrafti push 3 files so i want to remove 1 from my branch03:13
wgrantSo you've already added them to your branch, committed, pushed to Launchpad, and now want to remove them?03:13
ovnicraftonly from launchpad branch03:14
wgrantbzr rm --keep .pydevproject03:15
wgrantThat will remove it from the current revision.03:15
wgrantBut you cannot remove it from history.03:15
ovnicraftwgrant, no prob with history03:15
jmlovnicraft:03:37
ovnicraftjml, ?03:37
jmlovnicraft: also, 'bzr ignore .pydevproject; bzr commit' will stop it from being added or committed again.03:37
ovnicraftjml, really i do both things and then push so... works ok :)03:38
jmlovnicraft: cool.03:38
ovnicraftso, i come from hg03:39
jmlovnicraft: 'bzr ignore' is great for project files and other things you don't want version controlled.03:39
jmloh ok03:39
ovnicraftbut is great bzr03:39
jmlovnicraft: I like bzr a lot :)03:40
jmlalmost all the time03:40
ovnicraftmerge is better what i read, so i 'll see ;), and i am waiting for launchpad release i in love python+launchpad03:41
macowhy is launchpad taking > 1 minute to load each page?06:09
dtchensymptoms should be resolved now06:15
stefanlsdIs it me, or is LP really slow?06:39
dtchenit's fine for me now06:40
stefanlsddtchen: im still having issues06:59
DBOis bzr not working?07:59
wgrantDBO: bzr has nothing to do with Launchpad.08:01
wgrantBut perhaps you mean the lp: protocol in bzr.08:01
DBObzr: ERROR: xmlrpc protocol error connecting to https://xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net/bazaar/: 502 Bad Gateway08:01
wgrantI think LP is being crap, so the xmlrpc server is down.08:02
wgrantRight.08:02
wgrantUse a normal URL, since the lp: resolver isn't working.08:02
DBO...man I dont know the normal url =P08:02
wgrant(bzr+ssh://username@bazaar.launchpad.net/~path/to/branch, rather than lp:~path/to/branch)08:02
DBOthank you, that kicked it in the butt08:04
wgrantIt seems to be working again now, anyway.08:05
DBOw00t08:05
DBOi always have the best timing08:05
wgrantHmmm.08:05
wgrantI think one of the edge appservers might be broken, actually, as only some of my requests fail.08:06
* DBO loves how a build dep of gnome-do is banshee...08:06
DBOgod we are such rank amatures08:06
wgrantYes, the edge appservers aren't too happy...08:10
wgrantMaybe spm is lurking.08:10
jmlI've escalated the issue, but it's an awkward time of day08:14
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stefanlsdWere busy with the Ubuntu Bugjam and having really slow LP access. Does anyone else have this issue?08:22
jmlstefanlsd: yeah. see the topic08:24
stefanlsdjml: aah ok. is there any work around atm?08:24
jmlstefanlsd: drop the 'edge' bit from your URLs08:25
jmlstefanlsd: our IS team have been notified and will be fixing the problem soon.08:25
glade88hmm.. edge servers are timing out. is bazaar down too?08:35
glade88I cant commit my work08:35
jmlglade88: bazaar.lp.net?08:39
jmlglade88: this is the first I heard of it.08:39
* jml experiments08:40
wgrantjml: the edge xmlrpc server is used to resolve lp: URLs.08:40
jmlwgrant: I know that. :)08:40
wgrantjml: That would explain it, wouldn't it?08:40
jmlwgrant: it would. I just wanted to check first.08:41
jmlglade88: so, as wgrant says, if you are using lp: urls then you won't be able to commit.08:42
jmlglade88: to work-around, you can push your changes to bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~foo/bar/baz08:43
jmlif you have a checkout, then, umm, I don't know the bzr command, but I can tell you which files to edit.08:43
wgrantbzr unbind; bzr bind bzr+ssh://....08:44
jmlwgrant: thanks.08:44
jmlwgrant: does that work on a lightweight checkout?08:44
wgrantjml: Good question. Let's see...08:45
wgrantjml: No.08:48
wgrantIt gives a misleading error, and doesn't work.08:48
jmlyeah.08:48
jml"echo -n 'bzr+ssh://...' > .bzr/branch/location" should do the trick08:49
jmlif it's a lightweight checkout, never tried it with heavyweight ones.08:49
* wgrant has never used a lightweight checkout.08:49
jmlI've never used a heavyweight one :)08:49
jmlanyway, I need a) food, b) to stop using my computer.08:49
wgrantYes, food is good.08:50
* wgrant wonders why bzr uses the xmlrpc.edge...08:50
glade88jml: wgrant: thanks, worksforme (tm) !08:50
wgrantglade88: Good, good.08:51
jmlwgrant: there's a comment in the source code in bzr.08:51
jmlwgrant: if you are really interested :)08:51
jmlwgrant: I've forgotten the reason myself.08:51
wgrantjml: Will do.08:51
wgrant(I just tried to bzr co lp:bzr to check that... of course I could just look in the installed one)08:52
jmlheh heh08:52
jmlhmm. actually, setting the BZR_LP_XMLRPC_URL to the production endpoint would work too, I think.08:55
wgrantTrue.08:56
* jml is off.08:56
jmlg'night08:56
wgrantNight.08:57
d-bbtw where is launchpad feeling the load worst ? -is it cpu or ?09:44
stefanlsdIm still getting timeout issues - Error ID: OOPS-1148A111010:23
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1148A111010:23
stefanlsdjml: any news about status of timeouts10:37
wgrantjml is hopefully asleep.10:41
wgrantIt seems that the LOSAs are too, regrettably.10:42
stefanlsdwgrant: bug jam in progress and teams all reporting issues :|10:42
wgrantstefanlsd: Even non-edge?10:42
wgrantHm, right, that OOPS is from prod...10:42
stefanlsdwgrant: yeah. jml said earlier that it was edge. i disabled edge and it worked for a bit. seems like prod is affected now also10:43
wgrantBut the problem is different - edge wasn't OOPSing, some of the requests weren't completing at all.10:44
stefanlsdwgrant: trying query -  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=New&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=on10:44
stefanlsdwhich is a link from the bugjam easy tasks page...10:44
wgrantIs there nobody involved in the GBJ that can kick somebody?10:44
stefanlsdmm. not sure. i would kick dholbach, but he's not around :)10:46
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jameshif everyone else stops using Launchpad, the problem will go away10:48
wgrantjamesh: So they're timeouts caused by general overloading?10:49
jameshno idea10:49
jameshbut it might make Launchpad work better for me.10:49
wgrantHeh.10:49
jameshIANALH10:49
wgrantLH?10:49
jameshlaunchpad hacker10:50
wgrantBut you were.10:50
jameshprobably need the admins to have a look10:52
jameshgiven that it doesn't seem to be one part of LP, I'd blame a background job holding a transaction open10:53
wgrantYes, but it's a weekend and nobody has shown up for hours.10:53
elmoactually, I got called several hours ago, and I did kick edge10:56
elmounfortunately right now there's nothing obviously specifically wrong that I can fix10:56
elmothe main problem appears to be excessive load on the RO DB10:56
elmoI can't tell if that's the bug jam or a regression in edge10:56
wgrantelmo: Lovely... Sorry I assumed that nobody had done anything!10:59
wgrantWill more relevant people appear some time during the weekend?11:00
mads-hkDo anyone know what causes the problem with timeouts?11:02
wgrantApparently there's lots of load.11:03
wgrantelmo: Can you easily throw people off edge and see if that helps?11:03
mads-hkOh great...11:03
elmowgrant: relevant people> don't know, sorry11:04
elmowgrant: I'm not sure if I can throw people off edge without it being relatively disruptive (e.g. dropping them all from the relevant group, would be  fairly, err, loud)11:04
wgrantelmo: Ah, I presumed the group would just be config option, rather than a celebrity...11:05
jameshyou could get everyone to use the main LP instance pretty easily11:05
wgrantI don't see how, apart from stopping edge.11:05
jameshdisable the lp -> edge.lp redirect, then use http redirects from edge.lp11:05
jameshthat would stop edge, yes.11:06
wgrantRight, elmo suggested that disabling the redirect would be difficult.11:06
elmowell, in the sense of I don't know how to do it11:06
elmo(and I'm actually doing some other work right now)11:06
elmoI was actually vaguely consider rolling edge back to production11:07
wgrantOr yesterday.11:07
elmothat could be as simple as some symlink changes on the app servers11:07
mads-hkwhat about changing the css file temp. to make the site less gui11:15
stefanlsdwould be great if we could do something. Got people in a room here and cant really work.11:15
stefanlsdWill raise an issue about BugJams & GBJ working closer with LP team11:16
jameshmads-hk: changing the CSS is not likely to have any effect.  The images and styles are served separately11:16
jameshthe service timing out is just serving the pages.11:17
mads-hkjamesh -> okay then..11:17
mads-hkjamesh what to you mean?11:17
mads-hkJust install Windows server 2000... that works!11:19
mads-hkjust kidding11:19
wgrantmads-hk: The server giving the timeouts sees nothing of your requests for CSS or most images, basically.11:20
mads-hkOkay then... let's see if we can triage the launchpad-server bug :P11:22
stefanlsdLP it looking better now... anything change?11:49
BrummyBugJam:'(12:04
mads-hkany news?12:26
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mads-hkAny news about the server?12:46
BrummyBugJamedge is getting an OOPS on any page.12:50
BrummyBugJamooh, python traceback12:50
mok0I am trying to branch a copy off a repo I have on my server, but I get the message: bzr: ERROR: Not a branch:12:53
mok0Trying to get a branch on my laptop12:53
mok0Ah, using wrong path... problem solved13:08
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elmoboth edge and production should be better now; thanks to spm13:43
dholbachspm, elmo: YOU ROCK!13:44
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stefanlsdDoes anyone have any documentation regarding integrating a python application to use LP openid for authentication?15:02
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maxbstefanlsd: You could check out the source code of REVU15:08
stefanlsdmaxb: yeah. thanks. just doing that15:09
MTecknologyWhere's metcalfe!16:40
* MTecknology wants a chat to square things away :P16:41
MTecknologyany rubber duckies around?16:42
MTecknologycody-somerville: you're a rubber ducky, aren't you?16:43
cody-somervilleNot on production16:44
MTecknologycody-somerville: know anyone around that is?16:44
cody-somervilleIts the weekend16:45
cody-somervilleChances are no16:45
MTecknologyI'm trying to sort out a giant mess :P16:45
cody-somervilleWhats the giant mess?16:45
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MTecknologycody-somerville: I want to drop one team, rename one team to that name, and then leave an alias behind16:47
MTecknologycody-somerville: we're trying to restructure things with our projects16:49
cody-somervilleMTecknology, You'll want to file an answer against launchpad with your request.17:15
cody-somervilleI dunno if launchpad supports team aliases though. :)17:16
MTecknologyactually, we can't pick a name it should be17:16
MTecknologyWe have a project right now called LoCo-Drupal but we don't think the name sounds right since loco can mean anything... We think Ubuntu-LoCo-Drupal-Dev fits right, but that's a long name.....17:16
mneptokhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sanja-byelkin/maria/2.0/files17:29
mneptokSorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.17:29
MTecknologymneptok: how's it going?17:35
MTecknologythat's good17:38
MTecknologyI'm surprised sabdfl doesn't have a proxy for irc18:13
ymlhello19:07
ymlI am trying to import python-calais from an external vcs (svn)19:07
ymlIt seems that the initial import is stuck somewhere so I am wondering if I miss something in the declaration19:09
ymlor if such operation is subject to a manual approbation ?19:09
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maxbyml: I think new vcs-imports are subject to approval19:38
ymlmaxb: I see thank you20:58
madmartianhi launchpad people21:22
madmartianI'm having trouble with my PPA, is this the right place to ask?21:23
madmartian\321:27
maxbyes, it is21:29
madmartiangreat21:30
madmartianI uploaded a package fine21:30
madmartianthen I realised there was a problem with my masterful packaging and tried to upload an update21:31
madmartianthat won't appear in my ppa screen21:31
madmartianor when I try and install from the ppa21:31
madmartiani therefore hit "delete" on the old version, which has now gone from the ppa screen, but is still in the repo21:32
madmartianany ideas?21:32
maxbit will be purged eventually21:32
madmartianmaxb: is it just a case of waiting then?21:33
maxbfor things to disappear from pool/ once deleted in the ui? yes21:34
madmartianonly thing is, it has disappeared from pool/ afaict21:35
madmartianwhen I go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/jshholland/ppa/ubuntu/ there is only a dist folder21:35
maxbso, what's the problem then?21:38
madmartianthe new version isn't there and dput says it is21:39
maxbdput doesn't put to your ppa, it puts to an incoming processing area from which packages are picked up and processed into your ppa21:40
maxbSo dput can't say that something is there21:40
madmartianhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/121205/21:42
maxbdput notices that there is a .upload log file locally matching the name of the .changes, and skips the upload if so21:43
madmartianhow do I force the upload then?21:44
maxbdput -f I think. or delete the upload logfile from the previous attemp21:45
maxb+t21:45
madmartiangreat thanks21:46
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RainCTHi22:56
RainCTI have a bzr branch which originally included source files for images, which makes it huge (> 100MB), but this was later removed. So, now I'd like to create a new branch with like the 200 last commits (so that it doesn't include that mess and is faster to fetch the first time, but that 'bzr diff' and such can still be used being offline in most cases) and having it linked to the original branch in case it's necessary to look up earlier revisions. H23:00
RainCT(maybe I should better ask in #bzr?)23:00
wgrantRainCT: What you are probably looking for is a much discussed unimplemented feature going by the name of 'history horizons'.23:14
wgrantAnd yes, this is very much a #bzr topic.23:16
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wgrantAlthough you could do it with stacked branches, I suppose.23:17
penguin42hi, I'm getting a 'please try again' repeatedly when trying to mark a malone bug as a dupe23:21
penguin42trying to mark malone 194930 as a dupe of 27190923:21
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/194930/+text)23:21
wgrantOh dear.23:22
wgrantSomebody broke it again.23:22
* penguin42 hands wgrant the sticky tape23:22
wgrantIs that on edge or production?23:23
* wgrant guesses prod.23:23
penguin42https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/194930/+duplicate23:23
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/271909/+text)23:24
wgrantRight.23:24
wgrantpenguin42: It has been done now, but you might try edge.launchpad.net for now. It seems to be more reliable right now.23:24
penguin42is that another front end to the same data?23:25
wgrantYes.23:25
wgrantIt's running the latest development version of Launchpad, but on the same data.23:25
penguin42thanks23:26
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penguin42wgrant: I'm not convinced edge is any more stable - if the malone bugs are in a separate database I'd suggest someone checks that it's OK23:38
wgrantpenguin42: The problem is that it's a weekend, and it's really only us people with no useful connection with Launchpad around for most of the weekend. So nobody can do anything to fix it.23:40
wgrantHmm, you're right, edge isn't wonderful either.23:41
penguin42it needs fixing with something heavy and blunt23:41
penguin42it is a bug jam day - it might be an idea to keep an eye on it!23:42
wgrantOh yes.23:42
wgrantOne would think so.23:42

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