| Rocket2DMn | hey guys, had a quick question. Bug 332170 is talking about a message printed during boot and seems to be related to a problem some people are having with their systems performing poorly. | 01:22 |
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| ubot3 | Malone bug 332170 in linux "[Jaunty] Error appearing at boot - cpufreq: No nForce2 chipset" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332170 | 01:22 |
| Rocket2DMn | I see the message "cpufreq: No nForce2 chipset" also, but don't experience extra slowness, though I've always used ondemand for cpufreq | 01:22 |
| mjg59 | The message is harmless | 01:44 |
| Rocket2DMn | thanks mjg59 , i'll let them know | 01:49 |
| mjg59 | Should really be KERN_INFO rather than KERN_ERR though | 01:50 |
| Rocket2DMn | where do you see that it is ERR? | 01:51 |
| mjg59 | The sourcecode | 01:51 |
| mjg59 | I'll send a patch upstream | 01:51 |
| Rocket2DMn | ah, if it was INFO would it be printed to the screen? | 01:51 |
| mjg59 | No | 01:51 |
| Rocket2DMn | Ok, so you want me to change the bug to something saying that message should be KERN_INFO instead of KERN_ERR | 01:52 |
| Rocket2DMn | ? | 01:52 |
| mjg59 | Feel free | 01:54 |
| mjg59 | The slowness is because p4-clockmod is binding and getting used with the ondemand governor | 01:54 |
| * Rocket2DMn nods | 01:54 | |
| Rocket2DMn | is it just adapting then and will improve? | 01:54 |
| mjg59 | I've told Scott how to fix that | 01:55 |
| Rocket2DMn | fix which? the printing or the slowness? | 01:56 |
| mjg59 | The slowness | 01:57 |
| Rocket2DMn | Ok, so what we really have is two bugs in cpufreq then? One for slowness and one for changing STD_ERR to STD_INFO ? | 01:57 |
| mjg59 | Fix slowness: | 01:59 |
| mjg59 | sed -i s/1000000/10000001/ arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.c | 02:00 |
| Rocket2DMn | I don't have the kernel source code, you are changing a value of 1 million to 1 million + 1? | 02:01 |
| Rocket2DMn | Well, I'll take your word for it :) Shall I include that in the report, or do you know if there is another report open for the slowness problem? | 02:02 |
| Rocket2DMn | i thikn i see it | 02:04 |
| Rocket2DMn | bug 332017 | 02:04 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 332017 in linux "Significant performance regression in 2.6.28-8.24 due to p4-clockmod" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332017 | 02:04 |
| mjg59 | No, one million to ten million and one | 02:04 |
| Rocket2DMn | ah, I didn't read close enough, sorry. Is the Scott in the bug I just listed the same Scott you mentioned earlier? | 02:07 |
| Rocket2DMn | Scott James Remnant | 02:07 |
| mjg59 | Yes | 02:07 |
| Rocket2DMn | Ok, great! I'll just have this bug I started with be used to fix the KERN_ERR issue. | 02:08 |
| Rocket2DMn | Thank you for your help mjg59 | 02:08 |
| mjg59 | Rocket2DMn: Patch just got accepted upstream, so it'll be fixed in 2.6.30. The fix can be backported easily. | 02:10 |
| Rocket2DMn | for the slowness? | 02:10 |
| mjg59 | For the message | 02:11 |
| mjg59 | I'm chatting with the cpufreq maintainer about the slowness issue | 02:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | Ah, i just marked as triaged, guess I'll change to Fix Committed. Thanks for the update | 02:11 |
| mjg59 | Well, it's not committed to the Ubuntu kernel | 02:11 |
| mjg59 | So I don't know that fix ommitted is correct | 02:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | that would be Fix Released | 02:11 |
| Rocket2DMn | last time i checked anyway | 02:12 |
| mjg59 | I've lost track of how launchpad stuff is triaged nowadays | 02:12 |
| Rocket2DMn | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status | 02:12 |
| Rocket2DMn | For us, Committed means its committed anywhere, even upstream | 02:12 |
| Rocket2DMn | Hey you wouldn't happen to have a link to an upstream bug report or a commit page would you? | 02:16 |
| mjg59 | Nope, it hasn't been pushed yet | 02:25 |
| Rocket2DMn | heh ok, back to Triaged we go. That's all I have, thank you again for your time mjg59 . | 02:26 |
| mjg59 | No problem | 02:28 |
| mjg59 | It should turn up in the cpufreq git tree shortly | 02:28 |
| Shanix_ | hi all, I am getting the error -> kernel: [365385.583926] python[943]: segfault at 8908ec93 ip b7c50c8c sp bf843430 error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.1800.2[b7c46000+3c000] | 02:37 |
| Shanix_ | is there anyway that I can fix it by add/remove certain package?? | 02:37 |
| mjg59 | It's not a kernel problem - the kernel is just reporting that one of your applications crashed | 02:41 |
| Shanix_ | mjg59, I see. Thanks. | 03:28 |
| TimStarling | I isolated a kernel bug a week ago, it's totally ubuntu's fault, not related to upstream, it's a regression and it's easy to fix | 04:21 |
| TimStarling | I put a comment on the bug report and emailed the person who committed the bug | 04:22 |
| TimStarling | but still no response | 04:22 |
| TimStarling | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/297213 | 04:22 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 297213 in linux "Intrepid: Missing hdaps_ec kernel module" [Medium,New] | 04:22 |
| TimStarling | is there anyone here willing to look at it? | 04:23 |
| TimStarling | quiet channel | 13:26 |
| iulian | It's weekend. | 13:31 |
| TimStarling | you mean you people have a life outside ubuntu? | 13:42 |
| LLStarks | morning | 13:46 |
| TimStarling | morning | 13:50 |
| TimStarling | iulian: I'll take that as a yes | 13:51 |
| LLStarks | what's up with the ubuntu kernel naming scheme? | 14:05 |
| maxb | LLStarks: What do you mean? | 15:04 |
| LLStarks | 2.6.28-8 = 2.6.28.6 | 15:05 |
| LLStarks | right? | 15:05 |
| maxb | LLStarks: the -8 is the ABI number | 15:10 |
| LLStarks | what does that mean? | 15:10 |
| maxb | It means that that number will be incremented by the Ubuntu packagers to signify that kernel modules must be rebuilt | 15:11 |
| LLStarks | but surely the kernel that gets packaged is based off of a point release, isn't it? | 15:12 |
| marius_ | hello, I posted a bug report with a patch. i wounder if I did everything right: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/330259 | 15:12 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 330259 in linux-meta "Problematic volume control keys and mute key of several notebooks + Patch" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:12 |
| LLStarks | what version is the current jaunty kernel based on? | 15:13 |
| marius_ | is there anything else to be done by me ? | 15:16 |
| LLStarks | what is the difference between 2.6.28-8 and 2.6.28.6? | 15:16 |
| marius_ | nobody here who can answer my question? | 15:20 |
| maxb | LLStarks: the key thing to understand is that the .6 and -8 are telling you about totally separate concepts | 15:21 |
| * LLStarks is n00b. Explain to me like you would a child. | 15:21 | |
| maxb | The ABI number, which always comes after a hyphen, serves one purpose only: to designate the compatibility (or not, as the case may be) of the built kernel with particular builds of modules | 15:22 |
| maxb | The point release number designates the number of the upstream point release. | 15:23 |
| maxb | A point release may *or may not* cause an ABI bump | 15:23 |
| maxb | Conversely, and ABI bump may be required for reasons other than a point release | 15:23 |
| maxb | (i.e. an Ubuntu-specific change) | 15:23 |
| maxb | s/and/an/ | 15:24 |
| LLStarks | does -8 imply a point release has occurred? | 15:24 |
| maxb | No | 15:24 |
| maxb | the ABI number implies nothing whatsoever about point releases | 15:25 |
| maxb | (Though it would be somewhat unusual for 7 ABI bumps to have occurred without a single point release happenning) | 15:25 |
| maxb | (7, because it starts at 1) | 15:25 |
| LLStarks | so. when i roll a 20-sided kernel +5 charisma and kms support, what i am getting? | 15:26 |
| LLStarks | *kernel for | 15:26 |
| maxb | To discover which point releases have been integrated into an Ubuntu kernel, you must inspect the package changelog | 15:26 |
| LLStarks | **am i | 15:26 |
| LLStarks | why is it like that? shouldn't such things like a point release be readily reflected? | 15:27 |
| maxb | No | 15:27 |
| maxb | The fact that you need to rebuild your kernel modules is a more significant event than the upstream stable branch happening to release | 15:29 |
| LLStarks | i see. | 15:29 |
| maxb | Information on which point releases are included is always available in the package changelog | 15:29 |
| LLStarks | how can i tell which ABI i'm rolling when i use kernelcheck? | 15:31 |
| maxb | I've not encountered kernelcheck, what is it? | 15:32 |
| LLStarks | dot dot dot. | 15:33 |
| LLStarks | http://kcheck.sourceforge.net/ | 15:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | LLStarks: We now build upstream kernels and provide them in the archives | 15:33 |
| LLStarks | i saw. | 15:34 |
| LLStarks | no kms though. | 15:34 |
| * LLStarks gives angry glare | 15:34 | |
| IntuitiveNipple | not yet, give it time! | 15:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | That'll come for Karmic | 15:34 |
| LLStarks | can't you just enable i915.modeset? | 15:35 |
| IntuitiveNipple | You'd have to ask Andy. So far as I'm aware they are being built with the Ubuntu configs... but... I've not actually looked closely at that :) | 15:36 |
| maxb | LLStarks: I'm not entirely certain I understand your question, but assuming you mean "When I build my own kernel by non-Ubuntu means, which Ubuntu ABI am I getting?", the answer is "Quite possibly none of them, if you're building your own kernel, build your own modules too." | 15:36 |
| IntuitiveNipple | You can get the abi with "make kernelversion" or "make kernelrelease" | 15:38 |
| LLStarks | what folder? | 15:39 |
| IntuitiveNipple | the root of the kernel source | 15:42 |
| IntuitiveNipple | that's part of the standard kernel Makefile | 15:42 |
| IntuitiveNipple | "kernelrelease" only works after "make prepare" | 15:42 |
| TimStarling | can I repeat my question from yesterday? | 15:42 |
| IntuitiveNipple | TimStarling: I saw it... not had time to do anything though | 15:43 |
| TimStarling | ok | 15:43 |
| marius_ | I also got a question you got time for me ? | 15:43 |
| TimStarling | so should I keep asking people until someone gives in and does it? | 15:44 |
| IntuitiveNipple | TimStarling: I seem to recall several months ago, something similar happened with another module. Can't remember which one, though :s | 15:45 |
| TimStarling | seems kind of silly that a module can just go missing like that | 15:45 |
| IntuitiveNipple | There could have been a good reason... some (in)compatibility issue that wasn't logged in the changelog | 15:46 |
| TimStarling | true | 15:46 |
| maxb | I have noticed a trivial bug in the lbm prepare-compat-wireless.sh script - a missing $ sign on a shell variable expansion. Is there someone around who could just apply that trivial change? | 15:47 |
| TimStarling | that's why I emailled Ben Collins first | 15:47 |
| TimStarling | I've had this laptop for almost a year now, and ubuntu has slowly been supporting more and more components in it | 15:49 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Looking at the commit diff you reference, I'm almost sure I've dealt with that previously. | 15:50 |
| TimStarling | the hard drive has had a bit of corruption and I've been wondering if it's about to go, that's what made me think of hdaps | 15:51 |
| TimStarling | if you need me to help test it, I'll be around | 15:55 |
| === TimStarling is now known as Tim-away | ||
| IntuitiveNipple | ha.. found it! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-September/003171.html | 16:05 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Tim-away: Looks like the same forgetfulness as happened Gutsy > Hardy | 16:06 |
| IntuitiveNipple | maxb: {WT} ? | 16:32 |
| maxb | yes | 16:37 |
| maxb | I guess I could send a patch to the kernel team, but it's a single character :-) | 16:37 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ok | 16:37 |
| IntuitiveNipple | they all count :D | 16:38 |
| maco | hi amber | 20:38 |
| maco | are you going to try to help with the bug jamming | 20:38 |
| maco | ? | 20:38 |
| maco | er...wrong channel | 20:40 |
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