| savvas | hm.. System > Shutdown is removed? | 01:12 |
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| savvas | (jaunty) | 01:12 |
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| maxb | savvas: conditional on the fusa applet being on the panel, IIUC | 01:48 |
| savvas | gnome-volume-manager will not be included/recommended by the ubuntu-desktop in jaunty? | 01:48 |
| savvas | StevenK: you're the last uploader at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imaze - xview is now enabled for amd64? Do you know if and who should I contact to remove the arch-specific restrictions in debian? https://buildd.debian.org/quinn-diff/Packages-arch-specific | 02:05 |
| ScottK | savvas: There is a mail from Phil Kern on ubuntu-devel a couple of months ago that explains that. | 02:08 |
| savvas | I'll look, thanks :) | 02:08 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi. For a FFE, I have to put the New status when subscribing motu-release? | 02:41 |
| ScottK | yes | 02:44 |
| fabrice_sp | ok. Thanks | 02:44 |
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| nhandler | Is there any other way to check for rdepends other than apt-cache rdepends? I want to check the rdepends of a jaunty package, but I am currently on Intrepid. | 03:07 |
| ScottK | nhandler: I generally pbuilder login to my jaunty chroot and do it from there. | 03:08 |
| nhandler | scottk: I would do that if I was able to create a jaunty chroot. | 03:08 |
| ScottK | Right. Of course. | 03:08 |
| * nhandler has had really great luck so far with jaunty | 03:08 | |
| nhandler | Is there any tool on the web that can show rdepends? | 03:09 |
| lukehasnoname | How do I find out where files from a package were installed? | 03:19 |
| lukehasnoname | I'm looking for nexuiz-data files, but it's not a program per se, so I can't use whereis | 03:20 |
| bddebian | Should be in /usr/share/nexuiz or /usr/share/games/nexuiz | 03:21 |
| Amaranth | lukehasnoname: dpkg -L nexuiz-data | 03:21 |
| bddebian | Or that :) | 03:21 |
| lukehasnoname | thanks both | 03:21 |
| LaserJock | motu-release person around? | 03:37 |
| nhandler | o/ | 03:38 |
| ScottK | Sure | 03:38 |
| LaserJock | do you guys mind if I approve my own FFe or should I ask a motu-release person? | 03:39 |
| LaserJock | a delgation ettiquette question I guess | 03:40 |
| nhandler | LaserJock: I know motu-release can approve their own FFe, so I would assume that delegates can do the same | 03:41 |
| LaserJock | k | 03:43 |
| StevenK | savvas: Nope, sorry | 04:04 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Definitely go for it. | 04:20 |
| * StevenK catches up on Planet and grumbles at Aaron | 04:27 | |
| LaserJock | StevenK: the Ubuntu Server post? | 04:36 |
| anakron | HI all | 04:36 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: Yes. | 04:39 |
| LaserJock | I kinda wondered about that post | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | I'm not a server person so I don't have much to go by | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | but I would think Debian's emphasis on removing RC bugs prior to release and longer release cycle would make it a bit more stable | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | but I don't know how big of a difference that would make | 04:41 |
| anakron | how you can apply a patch or make some changes in a patched package? | 04:45 |
| anakron | because i need to change some things in a package, but i need to apply 2 patches that are into de package | 04:45 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: But it's a big hand-wave. | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | StevenK: it is yes | 04:46 |
| StevenK | So use what you want, but don't blog a 4 page load of crap about Debian servers to Planet *Ubuntu* | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | StevenK: for my own home server stuff I like Ubuntu because the Sever Team does more useful stuff to make it specifically usable and I like the quicker releases | 04:47 |
| anakron | ping Laney : hey, somewhere there? | 04:50 |
| anakron | ping james_w: Can you help me answering a question? | 04:50 |
| anakron | persia, do you know how i can do some changes to a package that contains some patches? | 04:51 |
| anakron | that can be reverse-applied | 04:51 |
| anakron | i can't understand it | 04:52 |
| anakron | ping persia : are you there friend? | 04:56 |
| anakron | ping anakron | 05:05 |
| savvas | patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff - how do I found out which are the changes outside of the debian directory? | 05:06 |
| LaserJock | savvas: look at the diff.gz | 05:07 |
| LaserJock | savvas: zgrep "^+++ " *.diff.gz should work | 05:07 |
| savvas | oh I thought there was a way before building it :P | 05:07 |
| savvas | I'll do that, thanks :) | 05:08 |
| anakron | hey LaseJock | 05:08 |
| anakron | hey LaserJock | 05:08 |
| LaserJock | anakron: so you want to make an additional change? | 05:08 |
| anakron | do you know how i can do some changes to a package that contains some patches? when i try to create a debfile it says | 05:08 |
| anakron | do you know how i can do some changes to a package that contains some patches? | 05:08 |
| anakron | ups | 05:08 |
| anakron | Patch 10_remove_encoding_from_desktop_file can be reverse-applied | 05:08 |
| anakron | not to the patch | 05:09 |
| anakron | i need to apply them | 05:09 |
| anakron | then do the changes that i need to make a debdiff file | 05:09 |
| anakron | and create a deb file then without problems | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | anakron: how big is the change you want to make? | 05:10 |
| anakron | mm | 05:10 |
| savvas | heh | 05:10 |
| savvas | LaserJock: actually lintian said which file it was: | 05:10 |
| savvas | W: vlc source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff patch | 05:10 |
| savvas | patch :P | 05:10 |
| savvas | I thought it was part of the message hehe | 05:11 |
| anakron | add an xpm file and edit a desktop file, that is edited by the patch and some changes in project.pro, I'ts like a makefile | 05:11 |
| LaserJock | savvas: heh | 05:11 |
| LaserJock | anakron: what's the source package name? | 05:12 |
| anakron | qtpfsgui | 05:13 |
| anakron | i made a debdiff file that make the changes that i need. but i need to know what i can do with the patches, because i need to change desktop file | 05:15 |
| LaserJock | anakron: that package uses quilt | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | anakron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems gives an overview of patch systems and has an example of quilt | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | anakron: for the .xpm file you might consider just putting it in debian/ and installing it from debian/rules | 05:18 |
| anakron | yes i know | 05:19 |
| anakron | but the right thing to do | 05:19 |
| anakron | to an upstram patch | 05:19 |
| anakron | could be to edit project.pro | 05:19 |
| anakron | it will be useful | 05:19 |
| savvas | does anyone know under which license the archlinux packages are created? | 05:23 |
| anakron | ok, I'll review it tomorrow | 05:24 |
| savvas | is there a site similar to packages.qa.debian.org in ubuntu? | 05:54 |
| dtchen | launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ | 05:58 |
| dtchen | e.g., packages.qa.debian.org/ecryptfs-utils -> launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils | 05:58 |
| dtchen | note that functionally, the latter is *not* PTS | 05:58 |
| savvas | dtchen: thanks, I was actually more interested in lintian errors :) | 06:02 |
| iulian | nhandler: Hi, I've just wanted to let you know that the second acknowledger will change the status to "Confirmed" for a freeze exception. | 06:15 |
| iulian | nhandler: I was talking about bug #247591. | 06:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 247591 in ltp "[Merge request]Please update ltp 20081130+dfsg from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247591 | 06:15 |
| iulian | nhandler: Oh, and please don't unsubscribe motu-release when you ACK something, even when you're the second acker. | 06:18 |
| * iulian would like to know what goes in or out. | 06:19 | |
| iulian | BBL. | 06:25 |
| DktrKranz | is launchpad working for you? | 08:39 |
| huats | nhandler: are you around ? | 09:58 |
| goshawk | while creating a new package, is there an easy way to parse all the source and extract the copyright line with a simple command? (the same could be done with grep i think) | 10:31 |
| iulian | goshawk: There is also a licensecheck script. | 10:45 |
| goshawk | iulian: thx | 10:49 |
| iulian | You're welcome. | 10:49 |
| iulian | Hiya mok0. | 10:49 |
| mok0 | hi iulian | 10:49 |
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| iulian | DktrKranz, ScottK, nhandler: Should we clear https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StandingFeatureFreeze. It doesn't make any sense if we keep it. | 14:21 |
| iulian | The first sentence was a question :) | 14:21 |
| nhandler | iulian: That is what I proposed at the last meeting | 14:21 |
| ScottK | I think many of those are still relevant. | 14:21 |
| nhandler | And a good number are not | 14:22 |
| iulian | ScottK: OK, then, leave it as it is and start a new list for Jaunty below? | 14:23 |
| ScottK | I think edit it. | 14:23 |
| ScottK | But don't clear it. | 14:23 |
| ScottK | Sorry, I don't have a lot of focus on this right at the moment. | 14:23 |
| iulian | Sure, thanks. | 14:23 |
| DktrKranz | ghc, wine and gfortran are done, we can drop them | 14:23 |
| DktrKranz | we have delegates to approve kde, mythbuntu and ubuntustudio packages, they can live there, IMO | 14:24 |
| iulian | OK, that makes sense. | 14:25 |
| DktrKranz | clamav, I'm not sure if we have to prepare updates, ScottK is the rockstar | 14:26 |
| ScottK | clamav is in Main now. | 14:27 |
| ScottK | You can drop it. | 14:27 |
| DktrKranz | ah, true | 14:27 |
| quadrispro | DktrKranz: bug 332498, could you take a look at that? | 14:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332498 in prboom "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync prboom 2:2.5.0+dfsg1-1 (universe) from debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332498 | 14:30 |
| iulian | quadrispro: Commentted. | 14:31 |
| quadrispro | thanks iulian | 14:32 |
| c_korn | jeuclid made it into debian experimental: can someone please have a look at the FFE? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/326179 | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 326179 in Ubuntu Jaunty "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync jeuclid 3.1.4 from debian experimental" [Wishlist,New] | 14:46 |
| c_korn | it is juclid 3.1.3 actually that is in debian. 3.1.4 has only small changes. | 14:46 |
| DktrKranz | c_korn, just commented on those | 14:48 |
| quadrispro | iulian: it works really fine, it remember me the prime time of my life! (quot.) :D | 14:49 |
| quadrispro | remembers to me * | 14:49 |
| quadrispro | iulian: you can try it installing doom-wad-shareware | 14:50 |
| c_korn | DktrKranz: thanks | 14:51 |
| iulian | quadrispro: OK, I will have a final look at it and ack if everything is fine. | 14:52 |
| quadrispro | ;) | 14:53 |
| logari81 | hi I would like to ask about a package the package=pdfshuffler that I have submitted in revu, since it is gonna reach the top of the list after a while I would like to know what happens next, is it going to be revised or something like being archived? | 14:55 |
| DktrKranz | quadrispro, commented | 14:58 |
| quadrispro | DktrKranz: it isn't reproducibile | 14:58 |
| quadrispro | preparing a screenshot | 14:59 |
| quadrispro | iulian, DktrKranz: http://www.uploadgeek.com/image-1D54_49A015F5.jpg | 15:00 |
| iulian | quadrispro: Please attach it to the bug report as well. | 15:00 |
| iulian | quadrispro: I've just acked it, you will need one more ack to get approved. | 15:01 |
| quadrispro | iulian: thank you! | 15:03 |
| c_korn | DktrKranz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/326179/comments/5 scilab developer answered your question | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 326179 in Ubuntu Jaunty "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync jeuclid 3.1.4 from debian experimental" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 15:18 |
| iulian | I'm wondering why Sylvestre is not uploading scilab 5 to Debian. As far as I can see he is one of the maintainer of the package and has upload privileges. | 15:24 |
| iulian | c_korn: ^ | 15:24 |
| c_korn | there is also a bug report for debian http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483682 | 15:31 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 483682 in scilab "scilab: new upstream version, now free" [Normal,Open] | 15:31 |
| jcfp | when the license is GPL3+, should one link to common-licenses/GPL-3 or just /GPL? | 15:32 |
| quadrispro | DktrKranz: SYN(seq=x) | 15:42 |
| quadrispro | any motu release here? | 15:43 |
| iulian | c_korn: Yes, I've seen it. jeuclid is already in Debian experimental, why doesn't he upload scilab 5 to experimental? | 15:45 |
| iulian | jcfp: The former. | 15:46 |
| jcfp | iulian: tx | 15:46 |
| iulian | jcfp: You're welcome. | 15:47 |
| iulian | quadrispro: I'm still here. | 15:47 |
| iulian | But currently busy. | 15:47 |
| c_korn | iulian: jeuclid has today come into debian experimental | 15:48 |
| quadrispro | iulian: you've already done your work ;) | 15:48 |
| LucidFox | Hmm, Debian has accepted Qt 4.5 RC1 into experimental | 16:21 |
| * LucidFox wonders whether to try it under Intrepid | 16:21 | |
| ScottK | mok0: I would be interested in your feedback on Bug 3216179 and how badly do we want Scilab-5.1? | 16:22 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 3216179 could not be found | 16:22 |
| ScottK | Err Bug 326179 | 16:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 326179 in Ubuntu Jaunty "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync jeuclid 3.1.4 from debian experimental" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326179 | 16:22 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: Ubuntu users would greatly appreciate scilab 5.1 . Debian's been working on it for quite some time and ubuntu forum people have been hacking around trying to build it from tarballs | 16:26 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: OK. Would you please mark something in the bug. You're opinion on sciency stuff is certainly valued. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Feel free to decide it's educational. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | Gotta run. | 16:27 |
| mok0 | LaserJock; I uploaded a pseudosync for jeuclid before FF, it's still in the queue | 16:40 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: if it's accepted, the bug should close | 16:41 |
| quadrispro | ScottK: around here? | 16:45 |
| quadrispro | hi mok0 | 16:45 |
| c_korn | mok0: the problem with the package in the queue is, that it has a wrong tarball (my fault). so there are licenses in debian/copyright missing. but the files that have these licenses are not required and are not in tarball: the right tarball is here: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/jeuclid | 16:45 |
| mok0 | c_korn: I am not sure you are right, because I generated the tarball myself AFAIR | 16:46 |
| mok0 | hi quadrispro! | 16:47 |
| quadrispro | ScottK-desktop: about this -> bug 332498 | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332498 in prboom "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync prboom 2:2.5.0+dfsg1-1 (universe) from debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332498 | 16:47 |
| mok0 | quadrispro: ScottK left a while ago | 16:47 |
| quadrispro | ah ok ok | 16:48 |
| directhex | hm | 16:48 |
| directhex | sebner? | 16:48 |
| directhex | ScottK would be just as good as sebner if he's about ;) | 16:48 |
| directhex | or DktrKranz! | 16:48 |
| mok0 | c_korn: what copyright file are you talking about? | 16:49 |
| c_korn | mok0: the tarball in the queue definitely has wrong filesize. I presume there is still the support directory in there and also the not required font file. there where files with other licenses not mentioned in debian/copyright | 16:51 |
| mok0 | c_korn: can you please download it and see for yourself? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22814237/jeuclid_3.1.4-0ubuntu1.dsc | 16:52 |
| mok0 | c_korn: I don't understand exactly what you mean | 16:52 |
| mok0 | RainCT: ping? | 16:53 |
| c_korn | mok0: I checked it. there is the wrong tarball in the queue. I did not use uscan to create the tarball. that is why I had a wrong tarball with files that would normally have been deleted by debian/orig-tar.sh script | 16:55 |
| mok0 | c_korn: ah, I guess we ask to get it rejected and upload another one | 16:55 |
| mok0 | c_korn: perhaps you already did? | 16:55 |
| mok0 | c_korn: it the version you uploaded to REVY the right one? | 16:56 |
| c_korn | mok0: yes, it is the right one | 16:56 |
| mok0 | c_korn: great | 16:57 |
| c_korn | mok0: yes, jeuclid has been rejected before because of missing entries in debian/copyright. I notified sylvestre ledru and he wondered that he does not have the files in his tarball. then we checked that I uploaded a wrong one | 16:58 |
| mok0 | c_korn: ok, starting to make sense for me :-) | 16:59 |
| sebner | directhex: pong pong :D | 17:00 |
| directhex | sebner, vala's done - do you want orig/diff/dsc on the same bug, or...? | 17:01 |
| sebner | directhex: yep, sounds good :) | 17:01 |
| LaserJock | c_korn, mok0: so you need an ack on the jeuclid FFe to upload again witht he right tarball? | 17:02 |
| sebner | directhex: though diff would be enough if you have a get-orig-source in it ^^ | 17:04 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: actually, I uploaded before Ff | 17:04 |
| LaserJock | mok0: I know, but did it get rejected? | 17:05 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: not yet | 17:05 |
| LaserJock | but it should? | 17:05 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: but we want to make another upload | 17:05 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: yes | 17:05 |
| LaserJock | mok0: you have the new upload ready? | 17:06 |
| directhex | sebner, that's what i wanted to check. i'll just post the diff then, for safety | 17:06 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: it's in REVU's archive | 17:06 |
| sebner | directhex: kk, I'll check your stuff and upload it then ASAP :) | 17:06 |
| LaserJock | mok0: so let's see if we can find an archive admin :-) | 17:07 |
| directhex | hm. how can i display the current git revision? does git even have a concept like that? | 17:09 |
| directhex | git's scary :( | 17:09 |
| LaserJock | directhex: git log should work | 17:09 |
| LaserJock | directhex: it'll show you a hash | 17:09 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: any of'em working today? :-) | 17:11 |
| LaserJock | mok0: perhaps | 17:11 |
| LaserJock | mok0: I've ack'd the FFe for it in any case | 17:11 |
| LaserJock | mok0: so once you find one you should be able to ask for the current one to be rejected and upload the new one from REVU | 17:12 |
| directhex | LaserJock, gotcha | 17:12 |
| LaserJock | directhex: it's a little odd to not have actual revision numbers, "yeah, grab revision 3ld89as8ukd from my branch" :-) | 17:13 |
| LaserJock | well, that wasn't a very good made-up hash, but you get the poing ;-) | 17:13 |
| LaserJock | *point | 17:13 |
| directhex | LaserJock, i'm uneasy about git, but meebey seems to like it :/ | 17:13 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: ok, thanks! | 17:16 |
| c_korn | mok0: should I rename the bug report? bug 272264 because ScottK said you do not sync from PPAs. I also don't know if "sync" is the right word here | 17:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272264 in getdeb.net "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync scilab-5.1 (multiverse) from PPA" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272264 | 17:22 |
| Adri2000 | has Scott Ritchie stopped maintaining wine in ubuntu? | 17:23 |
| directhex | YokoZar, customer | 17:24 |
| cody-somerville | Heya Folks | 17:25 |
| directhex | hello cody-somerville! | 17:26 |
| DktrKranz | directhex, huh? | 17:26 |
| directhex | DktrKranz, sebner already answered | 17:26 |
| DktrKranz | :) | 17:26 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: I'm his MD slave now :P | 17:27 |
| c_korn | Adri2000: no, he still builds the packages for ubuntu. why? | 17:27 |
| DktrKranz | sebner, at least until tomorrow afternoon :( | 17:28 |
| directhex | DktrKranz, monodevelop-vala prepared......... still working on the debugger addons with meebey | 17:28 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: :( :( :( | 17:28 |
| Adri2000 | c_korn: jaunty has 1.0.1, upstream is at 1.1.15 | 17:29 |
| sebner | directhex: /me is now taking a look at it :) | 17:29 |
| directhex | sebner, how long until you're a fully trained shooter of foreigners? | 17:29 |
| c_korn | Adri2000: that is because 1.0.1 is stable and 1.1.15 is development version | 17:29 |
| c_korn | next stable will be 1.2 | 17:29 |
| Adri2000 | ok | 17:30 |
| sebner | directhex: well, the first part of education lasts for 3 more weeks, but we have shooting training until may IIRC | 17:30 |
| geser | sebner: so we still have some time left till we *need* to be nice to you? :) | 17:31 |
| sebner | geser: ahaha! well we have 18 shooting trainings and we have completed 8 of them already so I might hit sometimes already :P | 17:32 |
| LaserJock | geser: what are you shooting with? | 17:39 |
| LaserJock | sorry, that was for sebner | 17:39 |
| sebner | LaserJock: with a weapon :P | 17:39 |
| LaserJock | I figured that ;-) | 17:39 |
| geser | does somebody know the weather in Barcelona end of May usually is? | 17:40 |
| sebner | LaserJock: StG77-A1 | 17:40 |
| LaserJock | sebner: ah, one of those little bullpup popguns | 17:42 |
| geser | that one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steyr_AUG ? | 17:42 |
| sebner | geser: +1 | 17:43 |
| sebner | LaserJock: heh | 17:43 |
| LaserJock | I don't know if I'd have a very easy time with one of those | 17:43 |
| geser | sebner: are you only trained with a rifle or also other weapons? | 17:43 |
| sebner | geser: nope, only with that weapon (other parts of the army of course also have access to other weapons) | 17:44 |
| sebner | directhex: I'm again asking myself if Debian folks like to fool lintian :P | 17:44 |
| directhex | sebner, i think team policy is "lintian is a tool, not your boss" | 17:45 |
| sebner | directhex: ehehe, lintian is god :P | 17:46 |
| LaserJock | I sure hope not ;-) | 17:46 |
| RainCT | mok0: pong | 17:48 |
| RainCT | mok0: what's up? | 17:48 |
| RainCT | fta: hey, are you around? | 17:48 |
| geser | sebner: no pistols? I got trained on pistol, SMG, rifle, MG, bazooka and grenades (some more, some less) | 17:48 |
| sebner | geser: what part of the army? | 17:49 |
| directhex | sebner, heavy weapons! | 17:49 |
| sebner | lol | 17:49 |
| sebner | directhex: MD-vala uploaded btw | 17:50 |
| geser | sebner: I got my basic training in a tank unit | 17:50 |
| ScottK | Even in the Navy I got trained on pistols, shotguns, and rifles. | 17:50 |
| joh | So, no new packages eh? :P | 17:50 |
| LaserJock | geser: nice. get to take any home? | 17:50 |
| sebner | geser: well, I'm not in a tank unit. Just "Funker" :P | 17:51 |
| sebner | ScottK: well Navy ... seems "more" than our army ^ ^ | 17:51 |
| joh | Does that mean it's pointless for me to fix my alarm-clock-applet package (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=alarm-clock-applet) ? | 17:51 |
| LaserJock | I'm thinking of going for my concealed weapons permit | 17:51 |
| geser | LaserJock: no (perhaps it better that way :) | 17:52 |
| LaserJock | my friend got his last week, my dad and brothers got theirs a month or so ago | 17:52 |
| joh | nhandler: You around? | 17:52 |
| LaserJock | though I don't know if permit is much good for me if I can't pack on campus | 17:53 |
| DktrKranz | sebner, confess! you wanted to kill Achmed! Bad boy | 17:53 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: well, the instructors maybe .. but not achmed :P | 17:54 |
| RainCT | lol | 17:54 |
| geser | sebner: after my basic training I got transfered to a command unit, so got only a rifle after that (at least I didn't have to wear those heavy MGs or bazookas around anymore) | 17:54 |
| sebner | ehehe | 17:55 |
| DktrKranz | geser, bazookas? I'm curious to see which targets you aimed | 17:56 |
| mok0 | RainCT: still there? | 17:57 |
| geser | DktrKranz: got to use only training missiles on a firing range :( | 17:57 |
| DktrKranz | oh, so you can't kill anybody or at least destroy his house, booooring... | 17:58 |
| ScottK | TheMuso: How does it look for getting a new ports kernel this weekend? | 17:58 |
| ScottK | ... or did you upload it already and I didn't notice? | 17:59 |
| RainCT | mok0: yep | 17:59 |
| sebner | geser: I'm wondering if the austrian army has bazookas xD | 17:59 |
| LaserJock | c_korn, mok0: so what is the situation on fop and xmlgraphics-commons, are they in Jaunty already? | 18:00 |
| DktrKranz | sebner, calm down, you can't reach me anyway :) | 18:00 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: ahahahaha! | 18:00 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: xmlgrapics-commons yes, don't know about fop | 18:00 |
| geser | sebner: I guess the "Carl Gustav" counts as one | 18:03 |
| sebner | geser: dunno. I'm also not really interested in that stuff. happy when it's over .. | 18:05 |
| geser | DktrKranz: beware, sebner needs only your coordinates (he is a signalman) and pass them one to a unit which can reach you | 18:05 |
| * DktrKranz runs to change Launchpad map!!! | 18:06 | |
| sebner | at least we have blackhawks \o/ | 18:06 |
| sebner | ahahah! | 18:06 |
| * DktrKranz now lives in sebner's house | 18:06 | |
| sebner | DktrKranz: house = flat. FAIL | 18:07 |
| c_korn | LaserJock: yes, xmlgraphics-common and fop are in jaunty already | 18:08 |
| LaserJock | c_korn: so once jeuclid goes through scilab will be ready? | 18:12 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: that's the hope | 18:13 |
| mok0 | c_korn, jeuclid is rejected now, I will prepare another upload | 18:13 |
| mok0 | c_korn: I can use the REVU upload, right? | 18:13 |
| LaserJock | mok0: "hope" or "heck yeah!"? :-) | 18:13 |
| c_korn | LaserJock: yes, finally after syncing fop and xmlgraphics and java-wrappers and jeuclid it is ready to build :P | 18:14 |
| c_korn | mok0: yes, REVU uploads are fine | 18:14 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: heck yeah! | 18:14 |
| LaserJock | mok0: that's what I like to hear | 18:16 |
| c_korn | mok0, LaserJock: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scilab/+bug/272264/comments/28 well this sivp package is not up to date in jaunty. (changelog says something about scilab-5 support). the updated version is in debian sid http://packages.debian.org/sid/sivp sylvestre says: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scilab/+bug/272264/comments/29 | 18:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 272264 in getdeb.net "FeatureFreezeException: Please sync scilab-5.1 (multiverse) from PPA" [Medium,Fix released] | 18:24 |
| RainCT | iulian or another motu-release member: I don't need a FFe for this, or? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jshholland/webboard/with-manpage/revision/63?compare_revid=62 (webboard is a GUI for pastebin, and this diff basically adds an option to choose the user name. there are other changes -the diff is not complete but all other changes clearly pass as fixes) | 18:31 |
| fta | RainCT: yes? | 18:33 |
| RainCT | fta: I've enabled your PPA and now liferea fails to start ("Aborted"). It's not a big issue, but do you know what the problem is? | 18:34 |
| fta | RainCT, which version of liferea? i provided a patch to pochu a while ago | 18:35 |
| RainCT | fta: 1.4.18-0ubuntu2 | 18:35 |
| fta | RainCT, oh, it's not jaunty | 18:35 |
| fta | RainCT, hm, you most probably need this: http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/l/liferea/1.4.23-0ubuntu2/load_proper_xulrunner | 18:36 |
| RainCT | fta: is there a ready .deb somewhere? | 18:37 |
| RainCT | fta: well nvm, I'll just build one. Thanks! | 18:38 |
| mok0 | c_korn: jeuclid uploaded again | 18:38 |
| fta | RainCT, pochu is the maintainer, maybe ask him. I can also push liferea to my PPA | 18:38 |
| c_korn | mok0: ok, that one won't be rejected. it also made it into debian | 18:41 |
| mok0 | c_korn: perfect | 18:42 |
| mok0 | c_korn: it has been a bit of a jig-saw puzzle to get scilab-5 ready to go! | 18:44 |
| c_korn | mok0: :P | 18:47 |
| * mok0 < food | 18:48 | |
| LaserJock | getting a new, *free* Scilab is totally worth it though | 18:50 |
| DktrKranz | mok0, sivp would probably need love too | 18:59 |
| c_korn | DktrKranz: should I file a FFE sync bug report? it just had to be synced from debian sid. no ubuntu specific changes were applied | 19:01 |
| c_korn | I am currently trying to build it in a PPA | 19:02 |
| DktrKranz | c_korn, that would be required if current version is not compatible with newer scilab | 19:02 |
| DktrKranz | we're just entered FF, there is room for bugfix | 19:02 |
| c_korn | I asked sylvestre about it. I am waiting for his answer so | 19:03 |
| ScottK | c_korn: Whether or not there are Ubuntu changes isn't a factor in does it need an FFe. The question is does it bring new features/functions or does it fix bugs. | 19:04 |
| LaserJock | I'm guessing it needs a FFe since it's going from 0.4 to 0.5 | 19:06 |
| c_korn | let us wait for sylvestres answer if scilab-5 required sivp 0.5 | 19:08 |
| c_korn | *requires | 19:08 |
| RainCT_ | fta: Thanks, I've built the version from Jaunty for Intrepid and it works fine :) | 19:09 |
| RainCT_ | though I messed with the config dir before that and now it lost my cache.. I may as well switch to google reader now :P | 19:09 |
| nhandler | joh: You there? | 19:11 |
| rexbron | Hello motu! I have encountered a weird dependancy error with ffado-dbus-server. Apt correctly selects libffado0 to be installed if it is not but trys to install ffado-dbus-server _before_ libffado0 and then chokes. If I install libffado0 before hand, everthing is fine. Suggestions? | 19:17 |
| joh | nhandler: Hi, could you please review my package at REVU? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=alarm-clock-applet | 19:22 |
| nhandler | joh: I'll look at it, but not right now. Also, we are in Feature Freeze now, so it probably won't make it into Jaunty | 19:22 |
| joh | nhandler: Yeah, I noticed :-( | 19:23 |
| joh | nhandler: Thanks | 19:23 |
| joh | nhandler: Really hard to get packages into Universe when it takes ~3 months to get a review :-/ | 19:25 |
| joh | nhandler: That's what happened last time (before intrepid) - I noticed the comments 10 minutes after freeze :P | 19:26 |
| nhandler | joh: The best way to get reviews is to come here and ask for them on REVU Days | 19:26 |
| joh | nhandler: Ah, and when are those? | 19:27 |
| mok0 | joh, it's actually listed on the top right on revu's webpage | 19:33 |
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| joh | mok0: Oh my bad :-P thanks | 19:34 |
| DktrKranz | c_korn, my concern is not scilab-5 to require new sivp, but if current sivp is compatible with scilab-5 | 19:34 |
| mok0 | joh, well, the type size is small :-) | 19:34 |
| c_korn | DktrKranz: ok, I sent sylvestre an email about that question | 19:49 |
| ScottK | DktrKranz: I approved pythonistas, but doko has to approve pythoneers. | 19:49 |
| DktrKranz | ScottK, thanks | 19:50 |
| directhex | pythonwhatnow? | 19:51 |
| DktrKranz | directhex, it won't be more difficult than mono, *-cli, *-sharp or gnome together with some of the above :) | 19:52 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: ahaha! | 19:53 |
| mok0 | ScottK: what's pythoneers? | 19:53 |
| DktrKranz | anyway, good work with MD2 | 19:53 |
| ScottK | DktrKranz: It's a team that is subscribed to ~all python packages in Main. | 19:53 |
| ScottK | Err | 19:54 |
| ScottK | mok0: ^^^ | 19:54 |
| DktrKranz | mok0, --^ | 19:54 |
| mok0 | Ah, the enemy :-) | 19:54 |
| DktrKranz | kind of | 19:54 |
| * DktrKranz is off for today, please don't flood my mailbox with FFe request or sebner will have some bazooka training with you | 19:56 | |
| sebner | ahaha! | 19:56 |
| mok0 | DktrKranz: sebner's your front man, huh? | 19:56 |
| sebner | that was a nice time when sebner filled DktrKranz's mailbox with FFe requests =) | 19:56 |
| mok0 | sebner: that''s the reason you were made MOTU :-) | 19:57 |
| DktrKranz | mok0, my delegate with license to kill | 19:57 |
| sebner | ehehehe | 19:57 |
| DktrKranz | (or to upload MD2) | 19:57 |
| * mok0 wonders why Austria needs an army | 19:57 | |
| sebner | lol | 19:57 |
| DktrKranz | mok0, to keep sebner busy from filing FFe, of course | 19:58 |
| mok0 | Of course you never know what tricks those swiss might cook up | 19:58 |
| sebner | mok0: because we have to (written in the treaty from 1955) | 19:58 |
| DktrKranz | sebner, ask to become a sudtiroler | 19:59 |
| sebner | DktrKranz: oh NOOOOOOOOOOO | 19:59 |
| mok0 | Legions of Swiss with drawn army knives | 19:59 |
| sebner | sebner has no time to file FFe requests, besides he is fine with uploading MD2 | 19:59 |
| nhandler | If a sync request was made before feature freeze, does it still need an exception? | 20:06 |
| sebner | nhandler: does it have an ACK? | 20:10 |
| mok0 | nhandler: no | 20:10 |
| nhandler | mok0: Ok, thanks | 20:11 |
| sebner | mok0: yes if hasn't been ACKed yet | 20:11 |
| sebner | + nhandler | 20:11 |
| mok0 | sebner: uhm, yes, but a sync request from a motu doesn't need an AC | 20:11 |
| mok0 | K | 20:11 |
| sebner | mok0: ah, I didn't notice that we was speaking about himself filing the sync request =) | 20:12 |
| mok0 | sebner: he wasn't... I assumed so | 20:12 |
| mok0 | nhandler: ? | 20:13 |
| nhandler | I didn | 20:13 |
| nhandler | * I didn't file the request | 20:14 |
| sebner | nhandler: so it needs a FFe if it hasn't been ACKed before FF | 20:14 |
| RainCT | >> I don't need a FFe for this, or? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jshholland/webboard/with-manpage/revision/63?compare_revid=62 (webboard is a GUI for pastebin, and this diff basically adds an option to choose the user name. there are other changes -the diff is not complete but all other changes clearly pass as fixes) | 20:16 |
| RainCT | nhandler: ^ | 20:16 |
| rexbron | hey motu, anyone have any advice on making dh_link link between packages? | 20:20 |
| ScottK | RainCT: Yes you do, but should be easy enough to get. | 20:20 |
| mok0 | rexbron: between _packages_? | 20:21 |
| rexbron | mok0: like between a libfoo0 and libfoo-dev | 20:21 |
| nhandler | scottk: Just to be clear, syncs requested by non-motus before FF need an exception, correct | 20:21 |
| ScottK | nhandler: Yes. | 20:22 |
| mok0 | rexbron: can you explain a bit more? | 20:22 |
| ScottK | The only slack is if it's "waiting for an archive admin to get to it". | 20:22 |
| mok0 | rexbron: -dev packages often contain a link called *.so | 20:22 |
| rexbron | mok0: ffado's upstream uses scons and scons doesn't do shared libraries to policy | 20:22 |
| mok0 | rexbron: just create the symlinks with dh_links and store it in the -dev package | 20:23 |
| rexbron | (it also does not include a soname, so scons had to be patched to add that too) | 20:23 |
| mok0 | &%!!?$ scons | 20:24 |
| rexbron | mok0: I have a file called libffado-dev.links but am confused as to what a "full" path means in the context of dh_link | 20:24 |
| mok0 | rexbron: it's relative to $topdir | 20:24 |
| rexbron | so for example" | 20:25 |
| rexbron | debian/libffado0/usr/lib/libffado.so.0.0.0u debian/libffado-dev/usr/lib/libffado.so | 20:26 |
| rexbron | mok0: ^ | 20:26 |
| rexbron | mok0: that would be correct? | 20:26 |
| mok0 | rexbron: sorry it's relative to the package dir | 20:28 |
| LaserJock | you know, we really should have a listing of dh_* with example files | 20:28 |
| mok0 | LaserJock: yes | 20:28 |
| rexbron | LaserJock: It | 20:28 |
| rexbron | LaserJock: I'd say it's more the weird cases that the docs don't really cover that trip me up :P | 20:29 |
| mok0 | rexbron: usr/lib/libffado.so.0.0.0u usr/lib/libffado.so | 20:29 |
| mok0 | rexbron: and stuff the .so link in -dev | 20:30 |
| rexbron | mok0: I tried that, no symlink is created due to libffado.so.0.0.0u not being in the -dev package | 20:30 |
| mok0 | hm | 20:30 |
| rexbron | what about ../libffado0/usr/lib/<foo> ? | 20:31 |
| mok0 | rexbron: I don't think so... just don't have the / before usr | 20:33 |
| mok0 | rexbron: the file is <package>.links, yes? | 20:34 |
| rexbron | mok0: yes | 20:34 |
| mok0 | rexbron: build the package in place using fakeroot debian/rules binary and check that things are what you think they are | 20:36 |
| mok0 | rexbron: make sure dh_link is called for that package | 20:36 |
| nhandler | Is there any requirement for new packages to be appropriate? | 20:41 |
| rexbron | mok0: dh_link is being called | 20:41 |
| rexbron | mok0: and examining libffado0.deb it is where I expect it to be | 20:41 |
| mok0 | rexbron: good | 20:41 |
| rexbron | it being libffado.so.0.0.0u | 20:42 |
| mok0 | rexbron: what about debian/libfado | 20:42 |
| mok0 | rexbron: does it contain the link? | 20:42 |
| ScottK | nhandler: What do you mean? | 20:43 |
| nhandler | scottk: Bug #332193 | 20:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332193 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] hot-babe" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332193 | 20:43 |
| ScottK | No, we don't want that one I don't think. | 20:44 |
| ScottK | They can get it from medibuntu. | 20:44 |
| nhandler | :) | 20:44 |
| ScottK | nhandler: I don't think there is a specific rule, but I don't think that package and CoC go well together. | 20:44 |
| mok0 | Uhm, needs unpacking: hot-babe | 20:44 |
| rexbron | mok0: there is no symlink in the pkg-build dir | 20:48 |
| * rexbron facepalms | 20:52 | |
| rexbron | mok0: pebcak! the links file was not added to bzr and was not copied over to the build.... | 20:52 |
| rexbron | mok0: your solution for the links file works | 20:53 |
| mok0 | rexbron: super | 21:00 |
| mok0 | rexbron: another win for the socratic method :-) | 21:01 |
| directhex | wait, hot-babe is a needs-packaging? didn't it used to be in debian? | 21:09 |
| mok0 | directhex: it was sexist, so it was retired | 21:11 |
| mok0 | ;-) | 21:12 |
| directhex | mok0, well, technically it didn't violate the DFSG :p | 21:12 |
| mok0 | directhex: ah, you mean hot-babe was totally free? | 21:13 |
| directhex | oh, was the "art" non-free? | 21:13 |
| directhex | definitely crass & crap, though | 21:15 |
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| asomething | could some one help me make sense of a pycentral problem? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4f482b67 | 21:23 |
| ScottK | Probably not. I'd wait until doko gets updating stuff and then see where we are and if he has clear direction. | 21:28 |
| asomething | ah! it was already fixed in the last pycentral upload, but my pbuilder was using archive.kernel.org and it hadn't landed there. works from archive.ubuntu.com | 21:40 |
| TheMuso | .c | 22:54 |
| directhex | .cs! | 22:55 |
| RainCT | .py \o/ | 22:55 |
| directhex | .boo! | 22:56 |
| RainCT | .baa | 23:00 |
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