[00:02] <Myrtti> uh-oh
[00:02] <Seeker`> what?
[00:03] <Myrtti> I just wonder if there's a day that Grant-A isn't getting into trouble...
[00:03] <Myrtti> I wish today is the day
[00:03] <Seeker`> A day not ending in -y?
[00:03] <Myrtti> anyway
[00:04] <Myrtti> I'm off to sleepzorland
[00:04] <Myrtti> talk to you later
[00:04] <Seeker`> night night
[00:10] <tritium> Good night, Myrtti.
[01:19] <Grant-A> hello
[01:19] <bazhang> Grant-A, hi
[01:19] <Grant-A> I noticed recently that I am not able to say wtf
[01:19] <bazhang> !wtf
[01:19] <Grant-A> but I can say brain**** (filtered just incase)
[01:20] <bazhang> indeed it is not welcome
[01:20] <Flannel> Grant-A: You're missing the point.  Which has been explained to you a few times.
[01:20] <Grant-A> I do not see how saying a term used in exteme surprise is unfriendly
[01:20] <nickrud> been that way for a while, Grant-A . no one has noticed. And I find it annoying as well, but if used exclusively to refer to the package, it's unavoidable
[01:21]  * nickrud goes off to install an look at that language
[01:21] <Grant-A> but how is using a term used in exteme confusion or surprise not friendly? Especially when the word in question isn't displayed due to the acronym?
[01:21] <bazhang> hi!
[01:21] <nickrud> Grant-A, everyone knows the acronym; we also ban jfgi and rtfm
[01:21] <Grant-A> yes, but your intent is to keep the place friendly due to children and families
[01:21]  * Flannel notes those are banned for other reasons.
[01:22] <Flannel> Grant-A: The intent is to keep everyone civilized and mature.  Not to shelter people from the world.
[01:22] <Grant-A> children would not know what the acronym mean
[01:22] <bazhang> not the point
[01:22] <Grant-A> So you're instituting censorship to not shelter people, but keep them mature?
[01:23] <Grant-A> I have never seen any scientific reviews or studies saying that cuss words lower civility or matureity
[01:23] <bazhang> Grant-A, you seem to be under the impression this is a freedom of speech issue
[01:23] <Grant-A> *maturity
[01:23] <Flannel> bazhang: Why did that statement send visions of clippy into my head?
[01:23] <bazhang> Flannel, haha
[01:23] <Grant-A> Well, if maturity is your problem
[01:23] <Grant-A> then ban toilet humor as well
[01:23] <Grant-A> or innuendo
[01:23] <bazhang>   /clippy: were you trying to say 'u'?
[01:23] <Grant-A> but why stop there?
[01:24] <mc44> oh no, I feel a slippery slope approaching!
[01:24] <Grant-A> let's ban the term microsoft as well
[01:24] <Grant-A> and anything else that the roman censors do not see fit
[01:24] <Grant-A> do you see my point?
[01:24] <bazhang> Grant-A, the policy remains. your argumentation today will not change it.
[01:24] <Flannel> Grant-A: Those are discouraged as well, yes.
[01:24] <Grant-A> I can understand rtfm being banned, that's derogatory
[01:24] <Grant-A> Flannel: Microsoft is discouraged? Really? :P
[01:25] <Flannel> Grant-A: Toilet Humor and Innuendo.
[01:25] <nickrud> Grant-A, I've banned people for excessive use of the word, yes
[01:25] <Grant-A> but still, even using a filter for 'civility' is a bad idea
[01:26] <mc44> Actually it works incredibly well
[01:26] <Grant-A> because I've seen posts on the forums thinking that, due to all the filters on TV and the media, that everything with a cuss word should be censored
[01:26] <Flannel> Grant-A: You're welcome to start your own channel with your own policies.  But these are ours.
[01:26] <mc44> but you know, who cares about practical results when your principles are at stake!
[01:26] <nickrud> Grant-A, it seems to be working well. I've been here for 4 years now, and very few leave for that reason
[01:26] <Grant-A> Ironic
[01:26] <Grant-A> You believe in the open exchange of ideas and software
[01:26] <Grant-A> but discourage the free exchange of non-derogatory language?
[01:26] <Grant-A> lovely
[01:27] <Grant-A> I'll be leaving then
[01:27] <mc44> Why?
[01:27]  * nickrud figures that someone that equates the two isn't thinking clearly
[01:27] <Flannel> Grant-A: Good luck in your future endeavours.
[01:27] <mc44> Do you feel it that hard to refrain from swearing?
[01:27] <Grant-A> mc44: It's the morality and hypocrisy of it all
[01:27] <mc44> or do you believe that swearing is so important to your ability to communicate?
[01:27] <mc44> There's no morality involved.
[01:27] <Grant-A> Really
[01:28] <mc44> It's a community, and people want it to be civil.
[01:28] <Grant-A> Believing in Freedom for software doesn't apply to ideas?
[01:28] <Grant-A> I suppose you'll be patenting parts of the Linux kernel, next
[01:28] <nickrud> Grant-A, what idea does wtf embody?
[01:28] <mc44> Should Linus allow crap code into the kernel?
[01:28] <Grant-A> nickrud: Nothing at all, and that is why it is silly to ban it
[01:29] <nickrud> Grant-A, but you were just equating it to an idea: <Grant-A> Believing in Freedom for software doesn't apply to ideas?
[01:29] <Grant-A> I'll brb
[01:29] <bazhang> feel free to say it out loud
[01:29] <bazhang> no need to type it.
[01:30] <Grant-A> Hold on, I'll continue this arguement in a few moments
[01:30] <bazhang> or do as I do and spend time in Taipei traffic, and get it out of your system altogether
[01:30] <Grant-A> the dogs need to go to the restroom
[01:30] <mc44> I'm sure we all wait with muchos anticipation
[01:30] <nickrud> lol, I am so glad I drive / or walk often 1.5 miles to work
[01:30] <bazhang> :)
[01:31] <tritium> nickrud: good thing.  Who knows what that koolaid might do to your driving skills ;)
[01:32] <nickrud> tritium, even when I was professionally testing chemicals, I had better sense than driving during an experiment :)
[01:32] <tritium> :)
[01:32] <mc44> koolaid koala?
[01:33] <nickrud> !awn
[01:34] <bazhang> nerdshark and friends trolling
[01:34] <nickrud> Hardy and later <--- suggestion for the factoid editors
 I can... potentially troll again if the urge overcomes the inhibition.
 trolling isn't working
[01:42] <tritium> Yeah, I'm watching it too.
[01:43] <nickrud> where you all seeing those lines?
[01:43] <tritium> nickrud: I'll PM you
[01:45] <Grant-A> back
[01:46] <Grant-A> sorry, the dogs get angry when they need to pee
[01:46] <Grant-A> Anyways, the reason why I am angry is not because the word is simply disallowed
[01:46] <Grant-A> it's because where I come from, we have a document
[01:46] <Grant-A> it's known as the first amendment
[01:47] <Grant-A> it's purpose is to protect the freedom of speech, among other inalienable rights
[01:47] <mc44> You do understand the first amendment merely protects you from government interference with your expression
[01:47] <nickrud> Grant-A, don't even try that. This is not a governmental body 
[01:47] <Grant-A> many people think that the first amendment is simply to protect what we can say
[01:47] <Grant-A> nickrud: I'm not getting into a governmental thing
[01:47] <Grant-A> nickrud: just wait and see what this is tied into
[01:47] <nickrud> Grant-A, yes you are, that's the 1st amendment
[01:47] <bazhang> Grant-A, does not apply.
[01:48] <Grant-A> bazhang: I am aware of this
[01:48] <bazhang> Grant-A, so this is a waste of time.
[01:48] <Grant-A> The first amendment is actually there because it protects the exchange of ideas
[01:48] <nickrud> Grant-A, anyone can tell you what you cannot say in a private space, and tell you to leave if you don't want to abide. Plenty of case law
[01:48] <bazhang> Grant-A, the policy remains.
[01:48] <mc44> I often swear in front of my grandmother while rubbing the bill of rights into her face.
[01:48] <Grant-A> you see, without free speech, one cannot truly exchange ideas
[01:48] <mc44> She loves it
[01:48] <bazhang> Grant-A, will NOT be changed.
[01:48] <Grant-A> First it was proprietary software, and now this
[01:49] <bazhang> Grant-A, this is not going anywhere.
[01:49] <Grant-A> To believe in freedoms of software and not believe in the freedom of speech is total hypocrisy
[01:49] <mc44> No, it's not
[01:49] <Grant-A> yes, yes it is
[01:49] <bazhang> Grant-A, please depart the channel so we can deal with more pressing issues.
[01:49] <nickrud> bzzzzt. Improper application of 1st amendment law. Sorry Grant-A you lose
[01:49] <tritium> Grant-A: you misunderstand freedom of speech entirely
[01:49] <Grant-A> Or is it you who misunderstand it?
[01:49] <bazhang> does not matter.
[01:49] <mc44> You can't put whatever you want in the mainline linux kernel, you can't say whatever you want in the official ubuntu community locations. That's just the way it is
[01:50] <Grant-A> I utterly am ashamed of what Ubuntu has turned into
[01:50] <Grant-A> good bye
[01:50] <bazhang> bye
[01:50] <Grant-A> humanity for all
[01:50] <nickrud> Grant-A, read it. See if it says anything but government 
[01:50] <Grant-A> more like to punish and enslave
[01:50] <bazhang> hmm
[01:50] <nickrud> gah
[01:50] <mc44> Melodrama++
[01:50] <bazhang> that seems a tad bit of a leap of logic
[01:50] <nickrud> ++ doesn't even begin to encapsulate that
[01:51] <bazhang> that slope is so steep 
[01:51] <mc44> I could formulate a brainfuck expression to represent it, but he's not here to appreciate the joke ;(
[01:51] <nickrud> rflol. I looked up the language. What a concept :)
[01:51] <bazhang> is he still banned in ubuntuforums?
[01:52] <bazhang> oh nice; a parting shot before he departs -ot
[01:53] <tritium> He's grumbling in #archlinux-offtopic now too
[01:53] <mc44> I wish I knew when this nostalgic period he's referring to was, because I must have missed it
[01:53] <bazhang> what a surprise
[01:53] <nickrud> I like the way it wasn't even a ripple in -ot
[01:53] <bazhang> wonder if that was calculated while nerdshark et al were trolling in main channel
[01:54] <nickrud> mc44, it was from about oct 04 - mar 05 I guess, before I got here
[01:54] <mc44> nickrud: I assume so.
[01:54]  * Pici scrolls up, scrolls back down
[01:56] <nickrud> tritium, was it like grant-a said, back when?
[01:56] <tritium> nickrud: you lost me.  What?
[01:57] <nickrud> tritium, the nostalgic period, when ubuntu was still 'ubuntu'
[01:57] <tritium> Oh, not exactly.
[03:17] <bazhang> NGL-Jabrroa, how may we help you
[03:18] <NGL-Jabrroa> well could you tell me how to set up samba for a printer? in ubuntu 8.10
[03:18] <NGL-Jabrroa> i tried but it prints random characters
[03:18] <tritium> NGL-Jabrroa: #ubuntu is the suppport channel
[03:18] <NGL-Jabrroa> i know and im sorry
[03:19] <NGL-Jabrroa> ikonia still has not lifted the ban from my name
[03:19] <bazhang> NGL-Jabrroa, this is not support.
[03:19] <bazhang> NGL-Jabrroa, considering your behaviour thats not surprising
[03:19] <NGL-Jabrroa> i thought you may be able to help
[03:19] <NGL-Jabrroa> :)
[03:19] <bazhang> no
[03:19] <NGL-Jabrroa> well ill check another channel
[03:19] <bazhang> bye
[03:19] <NGL-Jabrroa> :) Goodbye 
[03:20] <bazhang> ^^making threats against i k o nia
[03:27] <bazhang> bruenig has been unbanned from #ubuntu ? thought there was a clear mark not to do so
[03:27] <tritium> bazhang: yes, for several days, apparently
[03:28] <bazhang> tritium, could be he is ban dodging then
[03:28] <tritium> bazhang: not sure.  I didn't look into it
[03:28] <bazhang> as I recall jri b said not to unban
[03:29] <tritium> @btlogin
[03:37] <tritium> bazhang: careful, he just spammed #ubuntu-irc
[03:41] <tritium> bazhang: jrib removed it himself on 2/14
[03:42] <bazhang> tritium, ok thanks
[03:57] <bazhang> adalhelm in -ot (daft_punk)
[03:57] <tritium> bazhang: what about him??/
[03:57] <bazhang> @bansearch daft_punk
[07:53] <elky> someoen remind me how to alias? we should probably alias !cn to !zh
[08:08] <elky> jesus troll in aisle -ot
[08:17] <elky> it seems to be a turing bot
[10:18] <jpds> jussi01: Mez: Your request done? Sorry I'm on hols in London at the moment.
[10:20] <jussi01> elky: !foo is <alias> bar
[10:20] <elky> ah, right
[10:21] <elky> !cn is <alias> zh
[10:21] <elky> !cn
[10:21] <jpds> .!no, ch?
[10:21] <elky> then why did it not work? hrm
[10:21] <elky> someone must have done it already
[10:21] <bazhang> yep
[10:21] <bazhang> !zh
[10:22] <elky> bazhang, ah, thanks
[10:23] <elky> !hk
[10:23] <elky> !tw
[10:23] <elky> !hk is <alias> zh
[10:23] <elky> might as well
[10:28] <jussi01> !-zh
[10:29] <jussi01> !-cn
[10:29] <jussi01> careful of that, should try to not make alias chains
[10:32] <elky> ah, i thought zh was the orig. feel free to fix
[10:32] <elky> and why was cn not working earlier then?
[11:31] <elky> really now?
[11:32] <elky> hrm, no topyli :(
[11:32] <elky> i added examples to http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/
[11:32] <elky> s/examples/contextual examples/
[11:42] <elky> i've updated !u
[11:42] <elky> !u
[11:42] <elky> if you want to revert, the original text was: ubottu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officer, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[11:52] <Mez> jpds: nope, can you put one in ? 
[11:56] <jpds> Mez: One what, where?
[11:57] <Mez> ubottu in #ubuntu-uk-bugjam 
[13:15] <bazhang> nice change to !u   :)
[13:54] <Myrtti> how surprising that within less than two hours of me predicting Grant-A will get into trouble, he ends up here.
[13:54] <Myrtti> not.
[13:55] <bazhang> hehe
[13:55] <ikonia> I suggest he's banned from offtopic
[13:55] <ikonia> he's not happy with language censorship - fine
[13:55] <ikonia> he's trolling any ubuntu channel
[13:56] <ikonia> I see no value in anything he says
[13:57] <bazhang> odd that he would time it when arch was trolling, then immediately show up there when finished here
[13:57] <bazhang> just a coincidence certainly
[13:57] <ikonia> his "discssion" is obviously nothing more than an attempt to cause contoversy
[13:57] <ikonia> each time he's kicked/banned he just moves to the next ubuntu channel
[13:57] <bazhang> or draw eyes away from main channel
[14:13] <Myrtti> uhoh
[14:13] <Tm_T> kids <3
[14:13] <Myrtti> I once again feel too old for this
[14:14] <Tm_T> Myrtti: and you are younger than me
[14:14]  * Tm_T is the older twin (evil too?)
[14:18] <Myrtti> graah
[14:37] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[14:48] <bazhang> heh
[14:49] <Myrtti> I'm ready to strangle someone
[14:49] <bazhang> not workk1 I hope
[15:05] <ikonia> @bansearch homemadejam
[15:06] <ikonia> eyes on homemadejam please in #ubuntu (I'm on / off) spams his websites to people in channel and pm spams them too
[15:06] <bazhang> spamming his blog
[15:06] <ikonia> yes
[15:06] <ikonia> does it in channel
[15:06] <ikonia> but then stops and pm's people
[15:06] <bazhang> k
[15:07] <Myrtti> lol
[15:07] <Myrtti> [17:06] ~~~workk1 [n=administ@116.71.223.231] has quit [Excess Flood]
[15:08] <bazhang> haha
[15:08] <Myrtti> ^____^
[15:08] <bazhang> he's back :/
[15:10] <ikonia> 7/whois workk1
[15:10] <ikonia> ?
[15:10] <ikonia> whois he?
[15:10] <ikonia> I've not seen him before
[15:10] <Myrtti> I've seen him before
[15:10] <Myrtti> he just seems not to get it
[15:10] <Tm_T> what now?
[15:13] <bazhang> heh floodbot has a mark from today
[15:13] <Myrtti> yeah, right now
[15:13] <bazhang> reminiscent of pawan or gotu
[16:05] <bazhang> jewbacca trolling ?
[16:05] <Tm_T> where?
[16:05] <bazhang> #ubuntu
[16:06] <ikonia> bazhang: I do wonder
[16:07] <bazhang> ikonia, his story keeps changing
[16:07] <bazhang> first it was on desktop, now its on ftp?
[16:39] <ikonia> side issue
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:39] <ikonia> jewbacca has just spent time wasting peoples efforts trying to debug a rar file issue
[16:39] <bazhang> guess that would be a yes to trolling
[16:40] <ikonia> the reason it was going no-where was beccause it was nothing to do with the file he was asking us to debug
[16:40] <bazhang> yep
[16:40] <ikonia> it was another rar file containing details of peoples accounts/modes/settings on quakenet
[16:40] <ikonia> hence why he was asking about text files - but there was not any in the file he was giving us an example
[16:40] <ikonia> which is backed up by the fact that he's on quakenet now messing with channel settings in #smexy and a few others
[16:41] <ikonia> so he's told a pack of lies to the channel and wasted their time
[16:41] <ikonia> (which also explains his xchat issues)
[17:23]  * Myrtti has an uneasy feeling
[17:24] <tritium> What's wrong, Myrtti?
[17:25] <Myrtti> I'm feeling a bit paranoid
[17:26]  * tritium comforts Myrtti
[17:32] <Myrtti> I guess my stalkdar is running a bit too high
[17:32] <tritium> I must /away, but I hope you're doing ok, Myrtti.
[17:33] <Myrtti> yeah, I am
[17:46] <Seeker`> boo
[17:46] <Pricey> http://flickr.com/photos/29781724@N07/3297719670/ - did the catchphrase thing change when I wasn't looking?
[17:47] <Pricey> http://flickr.com/photos/29781724@N07/3296896029/ - and those colours look familiar...
[17:49] <Myrtti> Pricey: you haven't seen that before?
[18:01] <Pricey> Nope :)
[18:01] <Pricey> And definitely not in person.
[18:07] <nixternal> hey, can someone place ubotu in #ubuntu-chicago ? we need to have the bug query option available
[18:09] <Pricey> ubot4: join #ubuntu-chicago
[18:09] <Pricey> ubot3: join #ubuntu-chicago
[18:09] <ubot3> Pricey: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:09] <nixternal> lol
[18:09] <nixternal> come on you silly bots get in there....
[18:10] <Pricey> @login
[18:11] <nixternal> @login
[18:11] <nixternal> heh
[18:12] <nixternal> I don't have admin capability to do it :)
[18:12] <nixternal> I am not cool enough
[18:12] <Pricey> nixternal: Seems so. I'd rather not put ubottu in, as its in lots of channels, hence 2,3,4. Hopefully someone else will be able to oblige, though I'm unsure if they're all set up for bugs.
[18:13] <nixternal> thanks for trying though, I appreciate that
[18:14] <Pricey> 3 and 4 do, but default to different projects in query
[18:14] <Pricey> nalioth: Are you around?
[18:31] <ikonia> Pricey: where did you see ubuntu cola in the Uk?
[18:31] <Pricey> ikonia: york, random shop
[18:32] <ikonia> how odd
[18:32] <ikonia> not seen it in the uk
[18:32] <Pricey> sorry for not tagging the photos with coordinates or turning latitude on 8-)
[18:32] <ikonia> shame on you
[18:33] <Seeker`> Pricey: you should be even more ashamed for not buying me any
[18:33]  * Myrtti smacks Pricey with http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/locationtagger/feedback
[18:33] <ikonia> Seeker`: it's not nice
[18:34] <Pricey> Myrtti: i know, i have it!
[18:34] <Seeker`> ikonia: oh?
[18:34] <ikonia> Seeker`: quite "tinny"
[18:35] <Seeker`> :/
[18:35] <Seeker`> are you sure you drank the cola, not just ate the can?
[18:35] <ikonia> not %100
[18:36] <nixternal> Eoq7
[18:36] <nixternal> oops
[19:02] <rogermudd> Evidently I was vulnerable to this exploit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit I updated my router's firmware and I'm still getting kicked from the #ubuntu channel. Told me to come here and get tested manually after trying and failing the automated test.
[19:04] <Seeker`> rogermudd: have you tried connecting on the recommended port?
[19:05] <rogermudd> Using Colloquy on Mac OS X. Says there is no fix for that client. I was relying on the firmware upgrade. Perhaps that didn't do the trick.
[19:08] <Myrtti> rogermudd: you can't connect to alternate port?
[19:09] <Myrtti> 6667 is the only one you can use?
[19:09] <Myrtti> I find that hard to believe
[19:10] <rogermudd> Myrtti: Seems strange to me too. I've search the Colloquy preferences and I only see an option to change ports for file transfers. Perhaps that's why they suggest changing clients on OS X.
[19:10] <rogermudd> Although, I don't see a lot of IRC clients out there that match the feature set of Colloquy.
[19:11] <Myrtti> http://colloquy.info/project/ticket/693 seems odd...
[19:11] <Myrtti> "Changed three years ago"
[19:12] <rogermudd> Myrtti: Thanks for checking on that. Let me see if I can figure this out.
[19:14] <Myrtti> I checked with a user, yes, it's possible to change the port
[19:14] <Myrtti> hello mc44
[19:15] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[19:15] <Myrtti> he seems to fail some step
[19:16] <Myrtti> rogermudd: hold on
[19:16] <Myrtti> rogermudd: did you reconnect after changing the port?
[19:17] <rogermudd> Yes. Changed port to 8001 for all servers. Still no dice.
[19:20] <Myrtti> um...
[19:20] <rogermudd> Myrtti: I'm back up and running on #ubuntu. Thanks for all your help. 
[19:20] <Myrtti> [21:18] <+FloodBot1> rogermudd has requested an exploit test
[19:20] <Myrtti> [21:19] <+FloodBot1> rogermudd has been removed from the exploit quarantine
[19:20] <Myrtti> yeah, no probs
[19:21] <rogermudd> Looks like I need to do a "test me" in #ubuntu-read-topic *after* restarting Colloquy.
[19:21] <rogermudd> Wonder how I would go about requesting/making a change to the community docs regarding the use of Colloquy.
[19:22]  * Pricey takes a look
[19:23] <Pricey> "Remember that you will have to close and reopen your IRC client for the changes to take effect (or otherwise make sure that the new connection settings are applied on reconnection). "
[19:23] <Pricey> Second line of Fix: 2
[19:23] <Myrtti> rogermudd: yes, that's why I asked if you had reconnected after changing the port
[19:24] <Pricey> If you can change the port, we should update the docs to remove the "change to a different client" thing
[19:24] <Pricey> unless the client is vulnerable to another similar exploit, which i can't comment on
[19:24] <rogermudd> Pricey: It wasn't the reconnection that did it for me. I had to go back into #ubuntu-read-topic and enter "test me." Also, the change I was referring to was the just that -- the fact that Colloquy actually is a viable client. Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated!
[19:25] <Pricey> -!- Topic for #ubuntu-read-topic: Your router is buggy 1) Please follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to FIX  it (yes, it can be fixed) 2) after carrying out those instructions please type « test me » and wait few minutes | if this fails, type « /join  #ubuntu-ops » to be tested manually
[19:25] <Pricey> Step 2)
[19:25] <Myrtti> changing the port on your client wont take effect before you've reconnected
[19:25] <Myrtti> for obvious reasons
[19:26] <Myrtti> you're still connected to the old port!
[19:26] <Mez> Myrtti: is there no bugjam out near you?
[19:26] <Myrtti> so you have to disconnect and reconnect for the change to take effect
[19:27] <Myrtti> Mez: why do you ask?
[19:27] <nixternal> anyone around with bot admin rights yet?
[19:28] <rogermudd> Understood. That's not what I was looking to change in the docs. Just the statement that Colloquy isn't a viable client. No big deal, just wanted other Colloquy users to know that they're not being left out in the cold. 
[19:28] <Mez> Myrtti: because I'd have assumed you'd attend, and want to know what other jams are like
[19:28] <Pricey> rogermudd: yep that could do with being changed! :)
[19:28] <Pricey> rogermudd: *if* it isn't vulnerable to another strain of the exploit, which I can't comment on.
[19:29] <Pricey> Wouldn't think it is though.
[19:29] <Myrtti> Mez: not that I know of, though I've been out of touch of the Finnish community lately. Might attend the UK one next time.
[19:29] <Myrtti> one of them
[19:29] <Myrtti> somewhere.
[19:29] <rogermudd> All right. Thanks again for the help folks. Have a great day!
[19:29] <Mez> Myrtti: lol... yeah... dont know whats happening for the next one. but Daviey said in 6 months
[19:30] <Myrtti> Pricey: should I find out how the port can be changed in colloquy?
[19:32] <Myrtti> since obviously
[19:33] <Myrtti> that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit#Fix%203:%20Change%20Client part is faulty
[19:35] <Myrtti> Mez: also been so tired and stressed out I'm just visiting my mum now and sleeping.
[19:36]  * Mez gives Myrtti a huge hug
[19:36] <Myrtti> but nothing that bad that there isn't something good too - yesterday our project was finally given a proper end date
[19:36] <Myrtti> and for now it looks that it'll be done and over with just in time for 16th of March.
[19:37] <Myrtti> \o/
[19:47] <Myrtti> aspekt is going to get it soon
[20:10] <Mez> !ufw
[20:10] <Mez> !firewall
[20:11] <Mez> hmm
[20:52] <prince_jammys> patco444, advertisement spammer at #ubuntu
[20:55] <prince_jammys> bambou, also spamming urls at #ubuntu
[20:55] <prince_jammys> bye
[21:01] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[21:06] <Myrtti> I feel so damned old handling these kids every day
[21:08] <Seeker`> :/
[21:08] <Seeker`> why does that make you feel old?
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Myrtti You are young enough to be my daughter
[21:11] <Seeker`> Jack_Sparrow: how old are you?
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> 55
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Old Pirate
[21:12] <Seeker`> you are technically old enough to be my grandfather (just) in the UK
[21:12] <Myrtti> Jack_Sparrow: I know
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ouch, that hurts..  I hope it makes Myrtti feel better
[21:12] <Seeker`> haha
[21:12] <Seeker`> and I really mean "just"
[21:12] <Seeker`> I'm 22
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Puppy
[21:13] <Seeker`> :D
[21:13] <Myrtti> I've been on IRC for too long
[21:13] <Seeker`> Myrtti: how long is "too long"?
[21:14] <Myrtti> it breaks my heart to see these "kids" break the unwritten rules I've lived with for 13 years or so
[21:14] <Myrtti> I feel so old because I feel them engrained in my brain
[21:14] <Myrtti> engraved, even
[21:15] <Seeker`> I've been using IRC for 6 years
[21:16] <Myrtti> Seeker`: "oh that sunny spring of 1996 when I was so young and innocent..."
[21:17] <Seeker`> heh
[21:17] <Myrtti> "to be that young again..."
[21:17] <Myrtti> how I learned to install mIRC on the school computers...
[21:18] <Myrtti> which still needed Trumpet Winsock to get a connection run
[21:18] <Seeker`> I hadnt used the internet in 1996
[21:18] <Seeker`> first used it in '98 I thin
[21:18] <Myrtti> I had started in 1994 already with about the first version of Netscape there was
[21:19] <Seeker`> wow, early
[21:20] <Seeker`> I was only 8 then :(
[21:20] <Myrtti> http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/netscape-0.91.jpg
[21:20] <Myrtti> something like that it was
[21:21] <Seeker`> wow
[21:21] <Myrtti> but yeah - seriously depressing to see kids spamming their new irc channels and asking how to become an op
[21:22] <Myrtti> when the correct answer has been, as long as I remember, "not by asking how to become an op, and not by asking to be an op"
[21:22] <Seeker`> yeah, sounds about right
[21:24] <Myrtti> also with the addition "since you asked, you probably will never be an op"
[21:25] <Seeker`> yup
[21:26] <Myrtti> oh btw
[21:27] <Myrtti> http://www.finlandforthought.net/2009/02/21/because-of-the-guys-like-you-i-left-finland/
[21:27] <Myrtti> *chuckles*
[21:35] <Seeker`> what did he actually say?
[21:45] <Seeker`> Myrtti: ?
[21:46] <Myrtti> "It's really wonderful to meet another Finn here"
[21:47] <Seeker`> heh
[22:28] <Myrtti> @bansearch adaptr 
[22:28] <Myrtti> @bansearch adaptr!*
[22:28] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[22:29] <Seeker`> @bansearch adaptr*
[22:29] <Seeker`> @login
[22:29] <Seeker`> @bansearch adaptr*
[22:30] <Myrtti> that sucks.
[22:30] <Seeker`> why?
[22:31] <Myrtti> [00:27] <+FloodBot1> WARNING: adaptr!adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr may be  evading the ban on adaptr!n=adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr
[22:31] <Myrtti> there is no such ban though - not anymore
[22:31] <Seeker`> haha
[22:31] <Seeker`> stupid bots
[22:31] <Myrtti> but there is two mentions of him in the tracker
[22:31] <Seeker`> anything serious?
[22:32] <Myrtti> not really
[22:32] <Seeker`> @bansearch adaptr!n=adaptr@unaffiliated/adaptr
[22:33] <Myrtti> those bots need some serious love
[22:33] <Seeker`> ja
[22:50]  * jpds looks at Nytrix.
[23:02]  * Myrtti looks too
[23:02] <Myrtti> jpds: did you talk to Nytrix?
[23:02] <jpds> Myrtti: No.
[23:03] <Myrtti> I wonder what stopped him then
[23:05] <Myrtti> !virus