[00:47] <Sw3RvE> i have like 12 things open and i barely tapped into my swap memory lol
[00:48] <Sw3RvE> movie, streaming music, transmission, pidgin, firefox...
[02:06] <s19113i> Is there a way to remove applications from the applications menu without removing the program?
[02:10] <Odd-rationale> s19113i: add the "NoDisplay=true" entry to the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/
[02:13] <s19113i> no such file on my system.
[02:23] <Sw3RvE> anyone use Deluge?
[02:31] <R1cochet> nope i use utorrent through wine
[02:31] <Sw3RvE> i have utorrent on xp. im using transmission on xubuntu. but its extremely slow and i opened a port for it.
[02:32] <R1cochet> yea i didnt care for transmission
[02:32] <Sw3RvE> its going slower than dialup
[02:32] <R1cochet> utorrent works fine in wine for me
[02:32] <Sw3RvE> idk what wine is. isnt that another distro?
[02:33] <R1cochet> nope
[02:33] <Sw3RvE> what is it then
[02:33] <R1cochet> its an emulator for running windows apps
[02:33] <Sw3RvE> ooh
[02:33] <R1cochet> google it or join their channel on this net
[02:34] <Sw3RvE> ive only been using xubuntu for about a week. idk if im ready to do all that.
[02:34] <R1cochet> ok then use deluge
[02:34] <R1cochet> it looks nice i might try it out
[02:39] <rocko> HOW BIG?
[02:40] <Sw3RvE> in the future id like to use a snes emulator too
[02:41] <Sw3RvE> i have it installed on my PS3-Yellowdog 6.1... i just have to learn how to configure my dual shock 3 to work with it.
[03:03] <Sw3RvE> why is there a padlock on the music folder on my external hdd?
[03:03] <Sw3RvE> and when i open it there isnt any music...
[03:14] <rocko> Sw3RvE do ls -l if it is root:root
[03:14] <rocko> that is why
[03:14] <rocko> then do "sudo chown yourusername:yourusername nameoffolder"
[03:33] <Lucifer_Cat> youre kidding, right?
[04:24] <RadicalR> Hello, anyone awake at this time?
[04:25] <RadicalR> Hm, well, I'll just state my trouble then.
[04:25] <RadicalR> I have managed to break Xubuntu
[04:26] <RadicalR> I was trying to install the official NVidia drivers
[04:26] <RadicalR> and somehow it broke the xorg configuration file.
[04:26] <RadicalR> I attempted to restore to the previous version
[04:26] <RadicalR> however, that failed to work as well.
[04:28] <RadicalR> and also, for some reason, my wireless refuses to connect to the router
[04:28] <RadicalR> even after installing the correct driver and "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[04:28] <RadicalR> The device works, but it just sits there.
[04:40] <joshjtl> hi
[04:40] <joshjtl> is there a border around the xfce panel? there seems to be a lot of space between the edge of the panel and icons... I know scaling the panel can help this a bit, but not as much as I would like.
[05:37] <Iskr> how can i change dns in xubuntu?
[05:37] <Iskr> it used to be easy using network manager
[05:37] <Iskr> but with intrepid ibex it isn't anymore
[05:38] <Guest82129> is there a way of turning off touchpad tapping in Xfce in Xubuntu?
[05:46] <Iskr> i found it
[06:10] <jbbarnes> Can someone tell me how to change my Xubuntu system's language? I want to switch from English to Spanish.
[07:00] <TheSheep> jbbarnes: system->language support
[07:01] <brandban6> hi zoredache
[07:17] <wormsxulla_> !ics
[07:17] <wormsxulla_> hello and thanks, ubottu
[07:25] <tempuser> Has anybody else had this problem in starting a screensaver daemon?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1075810
[08:38] <tempuser> Could anyone try if the script that I quoted works in your English language Xubuntu 8.10 box without an error, when you add #!/bin/sh as first line?
[08:38] <tempuser> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1075810
[09:53] <nikolam> Hi
[09:53] <nikolam> My system just went crazy for a couple of minutes
[09:53] <nikolam> it was doing msome mdraid1 thing in process with priority -5
[09:54] <nikolam> And There is also some trackerd process with priority 19
[09:54] <nikolam> I figure this is due to mdraid1 was doing some servicing of raid1 partition
[09:55] <nikolam> BUT, it resulted in completely unresponsive system
[09:55] <nikolam> for about 10 minutes or something..
[09:55] <nikolam> Also, when ever some process is using disk intensively
[09:56] <nikolam> Whole system locks up, meaning applications are not refreshing
[09:56] <nikolam> And Everything is like, I have 286 or something..
[09:56] <TheSheep> sounds like some problems with that raid
[09:56] <TheSheep> anything in logs?
[09:56] <nikolam> Now it is OK, but I closed all my applications, because i thought it was their`s faults
[09:57] <nikolam> where to look at logs?
[09:57] <nikolam> I use software raid on 2 partitions as raid1, 2 sata disks
[09:57] <nikolam> i open system log viewer
[09:57] <TheSheep> I'd start in /var/log and work from there
[09:58] <nikolam> kern.log, messages and syslog are all Full of ppp0 messages..
[09:59] <TheSheep> my knowledge of raid is pretty much non-existent, so unless someone else here has an idea, google is a better source of information...
[10:00] <nikolam> I use that raid petty nice since install
[10:00] <nikolam> mostly no issues
[10:00] <nikolam> Byt all system operations like that raid sync or something
[10:01] <nikolam> and installing packages with synaptic etc
[10:01] <nikolam> gives slow and unresponsive system until operation is done
[10:01] <nikolam> Like, some operations are given high priority and user applications are not imaportant..
[10:26] <tempuser> It seem that xinitrc is not run in my Xunbutu 8.10 box when starting an Xfce session. Why?
[10:32] <chewit> is it setup to startup in "Sessons"
[10:33] <TheSheep> Seasons :)
[10:34] <TheSheep> warning, you reached your limit of letters i in that line
[10:34] <TheSheep> further letters i will be supressed
[10:40] <tempuser> Where are errors logged in Xfce startup?
[10:40] <TheSheep> tempuser: in ~/.xsession-errors
[10:42] <_Pete_> rehi I still have one problem with xfce
[10:42] <_Pete_> for somereason keyboard shortcuts are not going to IDEA
[10:43] <_Pete_> like ctrl-f9 = should be make project
[10:44] <_Pete_> I already removed xfce shortcuts for the same combo but still it's not working :(
[10:45] <TheSheep> _Pete_: is it a terminal application? if so, check if terminal doesn't use it
[10:45] <_Pete_> it's not
[10:45] <_Pete_> it's Java IDE
[10:45] <TheSheep> eek
[10:45] <_Pete_> same problem was with KDE
[10:45] <_Pete_> but when you took kde shortcuts away
[10:46] <TheSheep> no warnings if you run it from terminal?
[10:46] <_Pete_> then shorcuts worked ok
[10:46] <_Pete_> TheSheep: what do you mean?
[10:46] <TheSheep> many gui apps will print various messages and warnings in the termnal, if you start them from terminal
[10:46] <TheSheep> they may be useful hints
[10:47] <_Pete_> well application starts and runs fine
[10:47] <_Pete_> only thing is that keyboard shortcuts dont work
[10:47] <_Pete_> and it doesnt print anything to console
[10:48] <_Pete_> this is the app http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/index.html
[10:49]  * TheSheep has no more ideas
[10:50] <_Pete_> in which file is keyboard shortcuts saved ?
[10:56] <TheSheep> _Pete_: in .themes/<shortcuts theme>/xfwm4/keythemerc
[10:57] <TheSheep> _Pete_: and another in .config/xfce4/mcs_settings/keyboard.xml
[11:09] <_Pete_> TheSheep: first one doesnt exists and in 2nd there nothing related to ctrl-f9 or like that
[11:15] <TheSheep> _Pete_: in the first one you have to fill in the name you gave you to your shortcuts theme
[11:16] <_Pete_> I consider this a bug
[11:17] <_Pete_> .. in the case it really arent defined anywhere for xfce
[11:20] <TheSheep> _Pete_: if you don't have your own keyboard theme, it uses defaults
[11:21] <_Pete_> orginally ctrl-fx was shortcuts to change desktops but I disabled those from the xfce settings
[11:21] <_Pete_> still those shortcuts are not going to the Idea application
[11:22] <_Pete_> same was with KDE, it also used those shortcuts but when you did disable them from settings they worked in the application
[11:38] <knome> _Pete_, then file a bug.
[11:39] <_Pete_> how?
[11:41] <knome> !bug
[11:42] <_Pete_> Timeout error
[11:42] <_Pete_> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[11:42] <_Pete_> :)
[11:43] <_Pete_> guess it time to bug a bug for bugsite
[11:45] <_Pete_> excluding this keyboard thing I am very happy with xfce, switched to this from kde coz dont like the new 4.x at all and getting 3.x to 810 is hard
[11:45] <TheSheep> ask on #launchpad :)
[11:45] <TheSheep> last time I did sabdfl responded ;)
[12:18] <domz> Hi, anyone know how I can change the font size used in openoffice (theme)? I tried the preferences in OO but nothing exciting there. Here's a screenshot: http://localhostr.com/files/4c3ba5/bigfont.png
[12:24] <arualavi> domz, make sure that you have the openoffice.org-gtk package installed
[12:24] <TheSheep> domz: instal the openoffice-something-gtk
[12:24] <arualavi> heh
[12:27] <domz> okies let me check
[12:29] <domz> Yeh that fixed it :D
[13:04] <tempuser> What is Xclient script option for session in GDM login screen?
[13:16] <Memfis> Hello everyone. Is anyone available for a quick grub question?
[13:19] <tempuser> Anyway, it seems that my Xubuntu 8.10 used some default session, which did not run xinitrc. I had to explicitly choose Xfce 4 session in GDM to have Xfce session properly launched, including screensaver daemon (to make xflock4 work).
[13:20] <Memfis> I have a PC which has been working fine for months, however since adding another HDD boot drops to busybox shell saying it cant find the master partition (odd as it just booted from it). If I exit this shell it continues to boot just fine. I'm hoping adding rootdelay to grubs menu.lst may solve this problem. Can anyone assist in adding this?
[13:43] <Foxkeh> Guess what! I survived fsck! Only problem is it wouldn't load swap first boot, but otherwise it's fine!
[13:45] <ranok> I just installed xubuntu 8.10 on my new computer (64-bit)
[13:45] <ranok> and the wifi is very very very slow
[13:59] <tempuser> Anyone want to start their Xubuntu by the "Xclient script" session in GDM and try to run xflock4 thereafter?
[14:00] <tempuser> My guess is that xflock4 does not work then (unless you have installed xlockmore or similar.)
[14:11] <TheSheep> tempuser: works for me
[14:26] <tempuser> TheSheep: Strange. How could I trace what Xclient script option does here?
[14:33] <tempuser> TheSheep: since it doesn't work for me. And since Xclient script is the default session in Xubuntu (is it?) xflock4 did not work until I changed to Xfce 4 session.
[14:34] <TheSheep> it should use xfce by default...
[15:00] <fyskam> I did just install xubuntu and since I have a s3 card and the correct driver is s3virge I want that. But when logging in, exactly when xfce has loaded completely, X craches (or something) and gdm restarts.
[15:01] <fyskam> 1. Anyone who know of the problem? 2. Anyone know where I should look for errors? /var/log/*xorg* /var/log/gdm/* says *nothing*
[15:01] <fyskam> 3. or just simply, anyone how know of the solution?
[15:03] <TheSheep> fyskam: ~/.xsession-errors
[15:04] <TheSheep> fyskam: or you can try starting just X with xterm, and then startxfce4 in it
[15:06] <fyskam> nah, I'm looking for a permanent solution. For now I'm on the vesa driver.
[15:06] <fyskam> the .xsession gave some ideas. thx
[15:12] <Besogon> What is right way in installation xfce on UBUNTU? (gnome has installed). When I run wine (warcraft) with fullscreen Im see panels above and beneath the screen.
[15:15] <Besogon> And my main menu is like rubbish bin. I cant change it.
[15:16] <fyskam> Besogon, my guess: there is no right way. Ubuntu is designed to have only using window manager; gnome, kde or xfce, mixing them up, then you are on your own.
[15:16] <fyskam> But thats my guess.
[15:16] <TheSheep> fyskam: guess again
[15:17] <TheSheep> Besogon: try toggling 'display fullscreen overlays directly' option in window manager tweaks, in the compositor tab
[15:17] <fyskam> unless u install the xubuntu-a-whole-bunch-of-stuff package. that might work :-/
[15:18] <Besogon> TheSheep, ok
[15:19] <TheSheep> Besogon: about menu, you can only add your stuff to it with the editor, it will add all the installed applications to it automatically, there is a way of removing them manually, without the editor
[15:23] <Besogon> when I translate what you wrote I will answer )))
[15:24] <TheSheep> Besogon: sorry
[15:25] <Besogon> No metter
[15:25] <TheSheep> Besogon: basically, menu is created from two parts: the part you edit with the editor, and the list of installed applications
[15:27] <Besogon> I undesood it. I cant see installed applications in menu-editor. But those application visible in main menu.
[15:29] <knome> !upgrade
[15:34] <charlie-tca> Which should still be good for intrepid
[15:34] <charlie-tca> We can't give directions to jaunty until it releases
[15:37] <Besogon> TheSheep, I still have the problem with menu. (Problem with panels decided)
[15:40] <rocko> how do I get 3d working on my 200m on sidux?
[15:40] <rocko> it works on ubuntu 8.10
[15:41] <rocko> but I want to switch to sidux
[15:41] <rocko> it uses sid just like ubuntu does
[15:41] <rocko> it has some more up to date applications
[15:41] <rocko> like firefox
[15:41] <Besogon> window manager >>
[15:41] <Besogon>  the compositor tab
[15:41] <charlie-tca> Does sidux have a support channel?
[15:41] <rocko> yes
[15:42] <rocko> I already was there
[15:42] <rocko> it is on oftc at #sidux
[15:42] <charlie-tca> This is Xubuntu here. We don't really have answers for sidux
[15:42] <rocko> yeah
[15:42] <rocko> but ubuntu uses sid
[15:42] <rocko> just like sidux does
[15:43] <charlie-tca> And it works on Xubuntu?
[15:43] <rocko> how can I find out why it works on xubuntu ?
[15:43] <rocko> like get all the info in one page
[15:43] <rocko> with every thing 3d and driver that is used for my card
[15:43] <TheSheep> download it and examine how it's done
[15:44] <charlie-tca> I don't know that there is a simple "why"
[15:44] <rocko> download what?
[15:44] <rocko> you mean way right
[15:44] <Besogon> Does good way have various menu in gnome and xfce for one user?
[15:45] <rocko> huh?
[15:45] <rocko> sidux has kde, xfce/fluxbox cds but  no gnome cds
[15:45] <rocko> but you can download gnome after you install it
[15:46] <rocko> and install gnome
[15:46] <charlie-tca> rocko: we don't support sidux
[15:46] <rocko> yes you told me that already
[15:47] <rocko> but it is debian based
[15:47] <rocko> it uses sid
[15:47] <rocko> how different could it be ?
[15:47] <charlie-tca> Very
[15:47] <rocko> thats like saying we support german
[15:47] <rocko> but not high german
[15:48] <charlie-tca> If it was the same, wouldn't we call it sidux?
[15:48] <rocko> which is a different dialect of german
[15:48] <rocko> English is called the same every place it is spoken
[15:48] <rocko> but it is not the same every where
[15:49] <knome> rocko, we do not support sidux. end of conversation.
[15:49] <rocko> some places you probably will not understand some of the conversation
[15:50] <rocko> why is ubuntu being so gay lately with xorg
[15:51] <rocko> it is not telling much about what xorg is doing in its config file https://pastebin.ca/raw/1343727
[15:51] <rocko> how do you know which driver your graphics card is using ?
[15:52] <Besogon> rocko, you can build xorg.conf yourself. But you want.
[15:52] <rocko> yes I know
[15:52] <rocko> but what packages do I need then ?
[15:53] <rocko> xorg has a lot of packages I do not need
[15:53] <a> Hi everybody, does anybody know how to setup a PPTP VPN un xubuntu intrepid?
[15:53] <rocko> yes I know how to compile Besogon
[15:54] <rocko> if it is in the repository you can compile it without problems usually with "sudo apt-get build-dep nameofpackage"
[15:55] <rocko> then do what is says to compile in the readme and install files
[15:55] <Besogon> rocko, i dont know almost anysing about Xorg. Use gentoo. Very fast im heard.
[15:55] <a> I have tried to set it up but all help on the web is for Ubuntu and not for Xubuntu
[15:56] <charlie-tca> the setup should be the same
[15:56] <a> well, it does not work well in intrepid
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Can you define that
[15:56] <a> and the fix involves using gconf-editor
[15:56] <charlie-tca> apt-get install gconf-editor
[15:57] <a> however gconf-editor is missing the networking part in Xubuntu
[15:57] <a> I have it installed but is missing the networking section
[15:58] <Besogon> a, Do you speak in Russian?
[15:58] <rocko> how do I know what driver your graphics card is using ?
[15:58] <charlie-tca> lspci
[15:58] <a> It is supposed to be under system but is not there
[15:58] <a> what is lspci?
[15:58] <charlie-tca> then you improvise. Edit the file manually
[15:58] <rocko> I said driver charlie-tca
[15:59] <a> how can I do that?
[15:59] <rocko> not what card I have
[15:59] <charlie-tca> rocko: lspci
[15:59] <charlie-tca> person called a: I don't know which file you need, gconf-editor simply edits xml files
[16:00] <a> ok... I'm sorry I am new to xubuntu
[16:00] <rocko> charlie-tca you do not always use the same driver name as what your card is called
[16:00] <a> Under the System section there should be another one called Networking
[16:00] <rocko> so lspci does not help with that
[16:01] <a> but is is not there, and I do not know the file I need to edit
[16:01] <rocko> I think you meant lshw charlie-tca
[16:04] <rocko> https://pastebin.ca/raw/1343734
[16:05] <rocko> is there a latency driver ?
[16:06] <a> I just need to get the pptp VPN working to connect to my job
[16:06] <a> I've benn playing arround with it but there is not solution on the web for xubuntu
[16:08] <a> For Xubuntu intrepid I mean
[16:12] <Grrai> hey! just installed xubuntu on my new machine, now, is there an easy way to connect to my old machine via network, to get my files over here? I have wlan here. (I never set up such thing as a network, I must confess)
[16:13] <a> If it is a windows machine you need samba
[16:13] <Grrai> no windows, just two xubuntu machines
[16:15] <Grrai> anyway, I did install samba, but it doesn't show up in my start menu
[16:15] <a> In ubuntu you would just go to places and NETWORK will be there
[16:15] <a> but i do not know for Xubuntu
[16:16] <Grrai> hmm, anyone?
[16:18] <a> have you tried with thunar?
[16:18] <a> entering the adress of you machine? I.E.: \\192.168.x.x
[16:19] <knome> !sharing
[16:19] <knome> !share
[16:20] <Grrai> !networking
[16:20] <Grrai> !network
[16:20] <knome> !filesharing
[16:20] <knome> !charlie-tca
[16:20] <charlie-tca> what?
[16:21] <charlie-tca> Grrai: you could use ssh/scp to transfer your files
[16:21] <knome> see ^
[16:21] <Memfis> Grrai, if it's only a few files and you know their locations. try scp. if your wlan works (try browsing the web as a test)
[16:21] <charlie-tca> It is fairly easy to setup. You install ssh-server on the system you are transferring from.
[16:22] <charlie-tca> !fusesh
[16:22] <charlie-tca> !ssh
[16:23] <Grrai> okies, I'll try all that out
[16:23] <a> Ok I guess VPN can't be setup in XUBUNTU, I guess I'll have to go back to windows
[16:24] <charlie-tca> It can be. It just isn't as easy as Ubuntu.
[16:24] <charlie-tca> !vpn
[16:24] <a> It is not easy in Ubuntu Intrepid either
[16:25] <a> there is a solution, but the solution does not apply to Xubuntu I guess
[16:25] <charlie-tca> That's what it sounds like. I don't use it, myself
[16:25] <charlie-tca> I use NFS and SSH
[16:27] <a> There is even a patched VPN manager witch I have installed
[16:27] <a> and nothing
[16:27] <a> it is still telling me, connection failed
[16:27] <a> over and over again
[16:27] <charlie-tca> can you ssh to the system?
[16:28] <a> no, only PPTP
[16:28] <a> This is the solution -> http://otype.net/2008/12/getting-vpn-connection-with-pptp-on-ubuntu-intrepid/comment-page-1/#comment-242
[16:28] <a> is pretty simple but if you take alook at the last part it involes using gconf-editor
[16:29] <a> and that is fine, but gconf-editor is missing the networking part un xubuntu
[16:29] <a> so I am stuck
[16:32] <a> and I cant use ubuntu in this laptop because it is too slow for it, even doing updates it freezes
[16:33] <charlie-tca> So, you did add the ppa?
[16:33] <a> what is the ppa?
[16:33] <craigbass1976> I really liked xmms in previous versions of linux.  WHat is the equivalent?
[16:34] <charlie-tca> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu intrepid main
[16:34] <charlie-tca> craigbass1976: that is not for you
[16:34] <a> yes of course, I did all of that
[16:34] <a> it is running the new patched client
[16:34] <craigbass1976> charlie-tca, ok.  I thought references to mplayer were actually talking about totem, so I'm installing mplayer now.
[16:34] <a> but it still wontr connect, it tells me "connection failed"
[16:35] <charlie-tca> It is possible the failure is not your end
[16:35] <a> I have two VPNs at work
[16:35] <a> at two different buildings
[16:35] <a> it wont connecto to any of them
[16:35] <craigbass1976> Gah... mplayer is still a movie player.  Any other ideas?
[16:36] <a> I can connect using windows just fine
[16:36] <a> they are both PPTP
[16:37] <charlie-tca> craigbass1976: it should be xmms2
[16:37] <craigbass1976> Really...  I thought all xmms died.
[16:38] <charlie-tca> person called a : I have no more ideas. You could try in #ubuntu, maybe?
[16:38] <charlie-tca> or check the help wiki doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[16:39] <a> ok I will
[16:39] <a> thanks a lot
[16:40] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[16:40] <craigbass1976> charlie-tca, is there some gui front end I have to install as well with xmms2?
[16:41] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I don't use it
[16:41] <craigbass1976> tray icon maybe.  What do you use?
[16:42] <charlie-tca> Synaptic-Package-Manager has a lot of stuff listed for it, including gxmms2, a gnome gui
[16:42] <charlie-tca> I use Listen
[16:44] <craigbass1976> xmms2 seems to be a daemon running in the background; I don't think I'll like that with with laptop also being a LAMP dev box.  To much going for this aging lappy...
[16:45] <Memfis> If you have lamp have you considered ampache ?
[16:48] <craigbass1976> Memfis, I could, but I'm trying to keep things to a minimum as far as daemons go; only 512 memory with no room to upgrade, and this lappy is from early 2000's.
[16:49] <Memfis> ampache doesn't have a daemon. If apache and mysql are running thats all it needss
[16:53] <craigbass1976> Ahhhhh.  Finally.  Louis Armstrong....
[16:56] <craigbass1976> THanks folks.
[17:40] <rocko> is burnfree the same thing as burnproof?
[17:40] <SiDi> hi
[17:40] <TheSheep> rocko: I think one of them is a trademarked term and the other isn't
[17:40] <rocko> I see thanks TheSheep
[17:40] <rocko> so it is the same thing than TheSheep
[17:41] <rocko> it is like firewire than with trade mark name so they have to use a different name for it unless they pay for something to be able to use it
[17:42] <rocko> I think so TheSheep "BURN-Free supported:  	 [BurnProof]"
[17:43] <rocko> http://support.alcohol-soft.com/drives.php?B1=Search&VendorName=LaCie
[17:43] <rocko> thanks TheSheep again
[17:43] <rocko> TheSheep are you good with cdrtools?
[17:44] <rocko> how do you verify the cd after you burn it with cdrecord ?
[17:45] <rocko> "cdrecord -v -data speed=4 driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 $i.iso" is what I currently use for options to burn iso images
[17:52] <rocko> whoops
[17:53] <rocko> "cdrecord -v -data -dao speed=4 driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 $i.iso" is what I use I forgot to put down -dao option
[17:53] <rocko> for burning iso images you want disc at once not track at once
[17:54] <rocko> cdrecord defaults at tao
[18:19] <TheSheep> rocko: I think you have to compute the md5 sum of the image and of the burned disk
[18:19] <TheSheep> rocko: and compare them
[18:19] <TheSheep> !md5
[18:37] <rocko> TheSheep after I do the genisoimage command on the iso image where do I put the size so wodim knows ? https://pastebin.ca/raw/1343808
[18:41] <keres> is there a complete package for xfce for ubuntu? gnome sucks.
[18:41] <rocko> no keres
[18:42] <rocko> keres do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[18:42] <keres> thanks
[19:02] <Clark_Kent> hello everyone
[19:03] <Clark_Kent> can anyone help me with setting up screen-resolution in xubuntu 8.10?
[19:05] <knome> !resolution | Clark_Kent
[19:05] <knome> !purexfce | keres
[19:06] <knome> keres, you might want to look at that also.
[19:06] <Clark_Kent> i know basics of linux - the problem is I only have one possible choice to set the resolution to ...
[19:06] <Clark_Kent> how can i add different resolutions?
[19:07] <knome> Clark_Kent, if you need bigger, you might need to see if you have a driver that can do it.
[19:09] <Clark_Kent> i would need it different - not in widescreen format ... as some apps cut the bottom of some windows e.g. freeciv
[19:10] <knome> interesting. do you know wheteher your display is correctly recognised?
[19:12] <Clark_Kent> it is ... i tried to edit etc/x11/xconfig by hand ... but it ony has 'configured-device' in it ... that i guess points somwhere else as inserted by dpkg-configure
[19:14] <Clark_Kent> xf86config is no longer part of x11 packages?
[19:24] <Clark_Kent> i tried to add resolution using grendr instead of xrendr ... but it refuses to add different resolution
[19:36] <knome> Clark_Kent, i'm out of ideas. maybe you could ask #ubuntu or wait for somebody else to arrive.
[19:37] <knome> Clark_Kent, the problem most possibly is not in xubuntu/xfce :)
[19:38] <Clark_Kent> prob is the same as it ever is: the user
[19:38] <Clark_Kent> thanks anyway ... i take the dogs for a walk ... maybe fresh idea gives me fresh ideas
[19:39] <knome> Clark_Kent, really? :) did you find an another solution than "remove the user"?
[19:39] <Clark_Kent> i ment fresh air
[19:39] <Clark_Kent> dpkg-update --user
[19:39] <knome> yeah. have a good walk.
[19:44] <keres> is not being able to click and move over the desktop a feature or bug?
[19:45] <charlie-tca> keres: as in, drag icons on the desktop to a new spot on the desktop?
[19:45] <keres> charlie-tca, i cannot click and drag my mouse over my desktop to select multiple items with the marquee
[19:46] <charlie-tca> That is correct. You have to click and drag one item at a time
[19:46] <keres> charlie-tca, why? can it be fixed?
[19:46] <charlie-tca> It's the Xfce is
[19:46] <charlie-tca> I think I saw something to have it fixed in 4.8
[19:53] <charlie-tca> keres: It seems to be a difficult thing to fix. But the developers are aware of it.
[19:56] <anita_> salut
[19:58] <anita_> j'ai un petit probleme avec ma barre sous xfe, si je la mets a gauche
[19:58] <anita_> vous avez aussi ce probleme ??
[19:59] <charlie-tca> !fr
[19:59] <anita_> ah desolee
[20:01] <charlie-tca> 	
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Pas de problème.
[20:03] <charlie-tca> des barres horizontales semblent mieux fonctionner
[20:32] <pop79> Hi there
[20:33] <charlie-tca> !hi | pop79
[20:34] <pop79> charle-tea, ubottu: thanks for the warm welcome ;)
[20:37] <charlie-tca> :-)
[20:39] <Kholby> Would anyone be willing to help me with a networking issue?
[20:41] <Kholby> Anyone listening?
[20:41] <charlie-tca> I would be willing, but I don't know networking enough to actually help you
[20:42] <Kholby> Okay.  Thanks anyway.
[20:42] <charlie-tca> Have patience, someone else will come along.
[20:46] <knome> !ask | Kholby
[20:48] <Kholby> Okay.  Thank you, and I apologize.  Broadcom wireless card, eMachines computer, light is on, ndiswrapper has driver installed, iwconfig recognizes the card, but no connectivity.
[21:16] <keres> no native sftp client for xubuntu file browser?
[21:23] <charlie-tca> no, keres
[21:25] <keres> bummer
[21:26] <keres> charlie-tca, is there an sftp client similiar to a file browser? i hate the bad interface most ftp clients have.
[21:27] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I don't use one. I use ssh with scp sometimes, and sometimes I use gftp
[21:36] <|jbbarne|> Does anyone know how to change the language for menus and icons? I changed my default language to Spanish. Mostly worked, but the XFCE menus are still in English. (When you install in Spanish, then they are Spanish.)
[21:46] <zelhar> Hello folk
[21:47] <charlie-tca> hello, zelhar
[21:47] <zelhar> can i ask a Q ?
[21:47] <TheSheep> |jbbarne|: maybe relog?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> !question
[21:47] <TheSheep> zelhar: of course not!
[21:47] <TheSheep> ;)
[21:47] <knome> !manners | TheSheep
[21:47] <zelhar> I am having trouble getting the keyboard switch option work
[21:48] <zelhar> I am trying to set the xorg.conf to no avail
[21:48] <zelhar> can I post here my settings ?
[21:48] <TheSheep> knome: soryy
[21:48] <charlie-tca> Paste them to !pastebin
[21:48] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[21:48] <knome> !pastebin
[21:48] <TheSheep> zelhar: afaik recent xubuntu doesn't keep it in xorg.conf anymore
[21:49]  * charlie-tca won
[21:49] <zelhar> I posted
[21:49]  * knome will beat you all once he gets his broadband :P
[21:50] <charlie-tca> What is the URL?
[21:50] <knome> zelhar, paste the url to us
[21:50] <TheSheep> zelhar: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#X.Org%20Input%20Devices
[21:50] <knome> d'oh!
[21:50] <knome> so close.
[21:50] <zelhar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121206/
[21:50]  * charlie-tca gets beat by knome most of the time
[21:50] <knome> \o/
[21:51] <cyzie> how to do xubuntu total upgrade offline?
[21:51] <zelhar> TheSheep I don't understand so you mean the xorg.conf no longer controls the keyboard layout switching ?
[21:51] <charlie-tca> cyzie: I think you can do it with the alternate cd
[21:52] <cyzie> charlie-tca, Yes! that is what it claim and i follow the instruction
[21:52] <cyzie> however, it still download some package off the inet
[21:52] <charlie-tca> Probably language packs
[21:52] <cyzie> possible to force completely offline upgradE?
[21:53] <knome> cyzie, disconnect?
[21:53] <charlie-tca> You can unplug the network cable, upgrade, plug back in. It will still need to get some packages to bring you up-to-date
[21:53] <cyzie> knome, tried that, it just failed miserably.
[21:53] <charlie-tca> The cd is not big enough to hold all of it
[21:53] <knome> 6 mins remaining downloads!
[21:53] <charlie-tca> still!?
[21:53] <TheSheep> zelhar: the settings have been moved to a different file
[21:54] <zelhar> Than is there a way to set a keyboard short-cut (i.e ctl-alt) within xubuntu ? Cause I can set the languages if I uncheck the xor.conf option from the settings
[21:54] <zelhar> which is ?
[21:54] <TheSheep> zelhar: read the link I gave you
[21:54] <knome> charlie-tca, yeah. as i said, 45 kB/s max. :P
[21:54] <cyzie> well yes, but before commencing to upgrade using alternate cd, it ask yes or no when upgrade that utilize inet
[21:54] <cyzie> i give it no
[21:54] <cyzie> still it fail...
[21:55] <knome> charlie-tca, now you know why i'm waiting for the broadband :P
[21:55] <charlie-tca> zelhar: keyboard shortcuts are set in Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard
[21:55] <charlie-tca> knome: yeah, I see now
[21:56] <charlie-tca> cyzie: does the cd pass integrity checks?
[21:56] <knome> charlie-tca, and this has been the situation since jan 1st ...
[21:56] <zelhar> Charlie I know that but I don;t know how to set the command for layout switching
[21:56] <kholby> Need my xubunty PC to share an Internet connection with my PCLinux laptop using crossover UTP.
[21:57] <cyzie> charlie-tca, didnt tried that,
[21:57] <kholby> *xubuntu
[21:57] <cyzie> whow to do integrity checks?
[21:57] <cyzie> t
[21:57] <charlie-tca> When you boot to the alternate cd, it is a menu selection
[21:57] <cyzie> whow/why
[21:58] <cyzie> charlie-tca, no, i dont boot my box, the goal is to upgrade from hardy to ibex offline
[21:58] <charlie-tca> If the cd fails integrity check, it won't be able to do the upgrade
[21:58] <cyzie> how do i do integrity checkl?
[21:58] <knome> 50 secs!
[21:58] <charlie-tca> When you boot to the alternate cd, it is a menu selection
[21:59] <cyzie> charlie-tca, as i said, i wont reboot my box.
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Okay
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Then I can't help you
[22:00] <cyzie> now how do i do integrity check?
[22:00] <zelhar> I pasted my settings of the etx/default/console-setup, can you check it is ok ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/121209/
[22:00] <knome> when you boot.. ;)
[22:00] <knome> cyzie, you can check the integrity with any other machine as well.
[22:00] <cyzie> ....
[22:01] <cyzie> that is noob
[22:01] <knome> charlie-tca, can't integrity be checked with md5 sum?
[22:01] <cyzie> i just did md5sum on the disk, it's match .
[22:01] <knome> cyzie, you're noob because you're asking
[22:01] <knome> *oops* :)
[22:01] <charlie-tca> It is a second check. Sometimes the md5sum will match, but the cd will fail integrity check anyway.
[22:01] <knome> sha1sum? :P
[22:02] <knome> finally, even a bit faster connection
[22:03] <cyzie> any fast mirror?
[22:03] <zelhar> I guess I wll just reboot and see for myself, thanks guys
[22:12] <kholby> I have two problems, but probably only need to solve one.  a) My broadcom wireless card is not working [or] b) I can't get Internet connection sharing to work.
[22:15] <zoltron> i just got a new atheros wireless card. how do i enable it for use in xubuntu? it doesn't show up in iwconfig
[22:16] <TheSheep> zoltron: how about system->drivers?
[22:18] <kholby> On a similar note, my card shows up in drivers, has status listed as "In use," but enabled is unchecked.  When I check enabled, it asks me to restart, but I restart and get exactly the same thing.
[22:19] <TheSheep> did you guys try googling for your card model and 'ubuntu'?
[22:20] <TheSheep> maybe someone had similar problems
[22:20] <kholby> Many times.  Everything I haven't tried involves commands that don't seem to work on my machine.
[22:24] <charlie-tca> You can also ask in #ubuntu. They have more people and may have more suggestions
[22:25] <kholby> I think I'll try that.  Thank you.
[22:37] <zoltron> TheSheep, the wifi card shows up in there. says it's active with a green light
[23:03]  * Xikkub[A] is now away - Reason : cuz
[23:03] <knome> Xikkub[A], please consider removing running away-scripts.
[23:04] <Xikkub[A]> g2 fig out how
[23:04] <knome> which client?
[23:05] <Xikkub[A]> k don
[23:05] <Xikkub[A]> fixed
[23:05] <knome> maybe also consider not having an away nick ;)
[23:05] <knome> maybe also consider not having an away ni
[23:05] <knome> uh?
[23:05] <Xikkub[A]> hmm?
[23:05] <knome> /away is enough, imho
[23:05] <Xikkub[A]> auto away
[23:06] <Xikkub[A]> set it to 0 and auto awayed me
[23:06] <Xikkub[A]> as long as it doesnt send any messages, then im good
[23:06] <Xikkub[A]> baiz
[23:06] <knome> yeah, but you don't have to change your nick once you go away, right?
[23:06] <Xikkub[A]> no
[23:06] <knome> see you.
[23:06] <Xikkub[A]> it auto puts xik[a]
[23:06] <Xikkub> see
[23:06] <knome> maybe consider fixing that. ;)
[23:06] <Xikkub[A]> tah da
[23:06] <Xikkub[A]> why fix that?
[23:07] <Xikkub[A]> i want ppl to know if im heree or not
[23:07] <knome> they can use /whois and they see your awaymsg.
[23:07] <Xikkub[A]> well baiz
[23:07] <Xikkub[A]> it doesnt make that big a diff u kniw
[23:07] <Xikkub[A]> as long as it doesnt send messages
[23:19] <betrayed_> it is annoying to see the constant nick changes... is there really a need?