[00:34] <vorian> evening
[00:34] <jjesse> evening vorian
[00:34] <vorian> how goes it jjesse?
[00:35] <jjesse> drinking wine and working on bugs for the bug jam, can it get any better?
[00:35] <vorian> nope
[00:35] <scott_ev> vorian: you here?
[00:35] <vorian> scott_ev: yes sir!
[00:36] <scott_ev> got time for a pm?
[00:36] <vorian> any time
[00:37] <scott_ev> pwerhaps I didn't do that right...still learning irssi
[00:37] <vorian> /query nick or /msg nick work
[01:04] <ScottK> ryanakca: I'm around too now and can also hit publish.
[01:05] <ryanakca> slangasek: ^^
[01:08] <ryanakca> ScottK: Either or. If you want to take care of the story, I can take care of the masthead
[01:08] <ScottK> OK.  Just need to know when ...
[02:06] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: hi
[02:10] <Riddell> nixternal: kmix is incharge of volume keys
[02:12] <JontheEchidna> kmilo is dead
[02:12]  * JontheEchidna dances over kmilo's dead body
[02:12] <JontheEchidna> grr, LP is slooow
[02:12] <ScottK> Riddell: You owe me alcohol the next time I see you.
[02:13] <ScottK> Turns out kde4bindings needs python-qt4 backported which needs Sip4, and so umpteen retries and uploads later (plus to trips through New) the backport is back to building.
[02:14] <JontheEchidna> oh yeah, it does
[02:17] <Riddell> ScottK: oh I think I owed you alcohol long before today
[02:17] <Riddell> were all those in kubuntu-experimental?
[02:18] <JontheEchidna> yes, those were
[02:18] <ScottK> Yep.
[02:18] <ScottK> That's where I grabbed them from.
[02:19] <ScottK> There was also a matter (not your fault) of some of the conflicts/replaces being <= 4.1.3 and now the we have 4.1.4 in -updates those didn't go well.
[02:20] <ScottK> I uploaded new revisions to backports and put the fixes on bzr for Jaunty.
[02:26] <ScottK> Apparently we needed to backport libmsn too.
[02:28] <Riddell> I should have just copied the whole archive
[02:29] <ScottK> That caused some real problems with persisten failure to upload on other archs last time we tried it.
[02:29] <jjesse> alpha4 on my Dell Mini is not a very good experience, the touchpad doesn't respond, and network manager never starts
[02:34]  * JontheEchidna screams at launchpad to go faster
[02:36]  * ScottK hands JontheEchidna a throat lozenge.
[02:37] <seele> LP or bugs.kde.org? both are often slow or broken :P
[02:38] <JontheEchidna> LP is worse than usual tonight, most likely due to the bugjam
[02:38] <JontheEchidna> tonight LP is sucking slightly more the b.k.o
[02:40] <jjesse> its because of the amount of people doing the global bug jam
[02:40] <jjesse> lp is been super slow all night
[02:42]  * JontheEchidna breaks out his bug-busting guitar (read, keyboard) and shreds some bug
[02:43] <jjesse> if the network manager applet doesn't start on a live cd of alpha4 should i report a bug or try the current daily cd?
[02:45] <JontheEchidna> That was fixed post-alpha
[02:47] <jjesse> ok i won't report it and will look at the daily that is download right now
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> I think it was in the release notes too :P (Or at least the release wiki page)
[02:50] <jjesse> ah forgot to read them :)
[02:51] <JontheEchidna> jjesse: btw, systemsettings for kde4 should go to the kdebase-workspace source package :)
[02:51] <jjesse> JontheEchidna: thanks for letting me know, trying to help out
[02:51] <JontheEchidna> yup, I appreciate it
[02:52] <ScottK> Well I mashed the accept button for libmsn New in intrepid-backports.  No idea if it took or not.
[02:53]  * JontheEchidna hands ScottK rsibreak to prevent rsi
[02:53]  * ScottK actually has that.  Need to figure out why it stopped running.
[02:54] <ScottK> Looks like it worked.  It's building on 4 archs right now.
[03:01] <JontheEchidna> we might consider backporting koffice2 as well
[03:01]  * JontheEchidna notes that we're backporting half the archive
[03:02] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Let's not.
[03:02] <JontheEchidna> yeah, it probably should just be updated in the ppa its in
[03:03] <ScottK> Looks like I got the libmsn binaries out of New just before the publisher run....
[03:03] <jjesse> its probablly a big pain to backport isn't it?
[03:06] <ScottK> Complex ones like this, yes, but it's also kind of an interesting puzzle.
[03:14] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Any chance you feel like backporting the Universe plasma-widgets that also existed in Intrepid?
[03:14] <JontheEchidna> Tomorrow, most likely
[03:14] <ScottK> I'll do the Newing of them, but I'm not up to sorting through it.
[03:14] <ScottK> K
[03:15] <JontheEchidna> any process/procedure I need to know about?
[03:15] <JontheEchidna> I know SRU's but I've never done a backport
[03:16]  * JontheEchidna wiki's int
[03:16] <JontheEchidna> *it
[03:17] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: There is, but we're skipping most of it for this evolution.  All you need to know is the upload target is intrepid-backports and you give it a ~intrepid1 revision.
[03:17] <ScottK> Actually, now that Riddell's here, he can do proper backports with the script.
[03:27] <ryanakca> ScottK: you going to be around fo a while?
[03:27] <ScottK> Yep.
[03:27] <ryanakca> ScottK: (well, until whenever slangasek wants you to hit the publish button?)
[03:28] <ryanakca> If so, I'll call it a night, if you don't mind :)
[03:28] <ScottK> Probably.  If not we can hit the button in the morning.
[03:28] <ScottK> No problem.
[03:28] <ryanakca> Okies, thanks, g'night :)
[03:30] <ScottK> Riddell: Once kdenetwork cycles out of depwait and builds we'll be done on the primary archs.
[03:33] <rgreening> soooooooooooooooooooooooooooodrunkkkj
[03:33] <rgreening> UFC UFC + beeeeeeeeeeeeer
[03:33] <JontheEchidna> and yes, that's drunk with a "j" :P
[03:33] <rgreening> <8brrrrruuuuuuuuup
[03:34] <rgreening> :)
[03:34] <rgreening> Quintasan:
[03:34] <rgreening> ping Quintasan
[03:34] <rgreening> you szemdy emaily
[03:35] <rgreening> im pastyed
[03:35] <rgreening> :)
[03:35] <JontheEchidna> oh, I checked that branch to be merged and I didn't see the patch added to the series file
[03:35] <rgreening> me no get mail
[03:35] <JontheEchidna> probably not the best time to point that out though
[03:35] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: buzzzzzzzzza
[03:35] <JontheEchidna> lol
[03:36] <rgreening> hmmm...26er vodka + 12 beer = mm fun
[03:37] <JontheEchidna> We need KDE Solid technology for the human body
[03:37] <JontheEchidna> It'd take away dput abilities when Solid detects body::isDrunk()
[03:39] <rgreening> lol
[03:39]  * JontheEchidna hits the sack
[03:41] <rgreening> while notPASSEDoUT() { depositMoreBeer(); last if !isDrunk(); }
[03:53] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: You'd need an exception for ballmer peak.
[04:34] <ScottK> vorian: Would you please make it so I can change the topic in #kubuntu.
[04:35] <ScottK> If anyone is a moderator on kubuntu-users ML would you please unmoderate my announement message.
[04:38] <ScottK> Nevermind.  Just subscribed.
[04:47] <ScottK> Riddell: Would you please add the 8.04.2 announcement to /topic in #kubuntu.
[05:05] <ScottK> ryanakca: It's all announced and stuff, I leave masthead work to you (if any).  I'm not sure we don't want to leave 4.2 on the top.
[05:22] <a|wen> cool, 8.04.2 finally released :)
[05:23] <ScottK> Yep.  Thanks for all the help.
[05:23] <ScottK> There were some hangups with getting the mirrors updated.
[05:23] <a|wen> ahh, i see; nobody was expecting a release at that point, he
[06:10] <maco> i've got a problem with plasma. it doesn't start for my user, but i just created a new user and it works fine there.
[06:11] <maco> when i try to run it from the command line it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/121324/
[06:11] <maco> (this is jaunty)
[08:16] <Quintasan> hmm, I'm pretty sure I've sent him this patch :<
[09:18] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: ping
[10:43] <jussi01> hehe, this is funny. anyone else experiencing that when a new dolphin window is opened it cant decide it its 3 columns or 2, so it flickers between them?
[10:44] <jussi01> thats with the icon size set to 32 pixels
[11:18] <Quintasan> jussi01: yeah :D
[11:23] <Quintasan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/+bug/289748
[11:25] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: ^^^ I have a patch for this, intrested? :3
[11:34] <Tm_T> Quintasan: that needs a patch?
[11:45] <apachelogger> o/
[11:52] <Quintasan> Tm_T: JontheEchidna said it could be backported
[11:52] <Quintasan> apachelogger: \o
[11:58] <Tm_T> Quintasan: I thought that is already done in ... oh, right, I'm living in trunk, sorry, ignore me (:
[12:01] <Quintasan> Tm_T: :D
[12:01] <Tm_T> I always forget 4.2 was frozen so long time ago
[12:03] <Quintasan> brb testing whether it works :3
[12:06] <Quintasan> grr, what annoying bugs
[12:06] <Quintasan> or "features"
[12:08] <Quintasan> Tm_T: It is working for you?
[12:09] <Tm_T> Quintasan: I don't use it so cannot tell
[12:09] <Quintasan> Tm_T: Could you try it?
[12:09] <Tm_T> sorry, not possible atm
[12:10] <Quintasan> ok
[12:10] <Quintasan> Hmm, I wonder why it doesnt works :/
[13:06] <markey> will Ext4 be available in the next Kubuntu?
[13:06]  * markey so wants the performance
[13:06] <markey> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-anatomy-ext4/index.html?ca=drs-
[13:06] <markey> ^ cool article about ext4
[13:06] <markey> oooh, and while we're at it, the Google Gold linker too, pretty please
[13:07] <markey> with icing :)
[13:10] <apachelogger> as I already told you once, gold is part of the binutils and officially unfitted for producition use, so it is not getting packaged, to get it anyway you might want to talk to the appropriate ubuntu dood
[13:11] <apachelogger> ext4 will be an option in the alternate installer ... dunno about the graphical installer
[13:13] <apachelogger> markey: in the ibm article is even a link to one talking about ubuntu 9.04 :P
[13:13] <apachelogger> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_ext4&num=1
[13:15] <markey> oi cool
[13:15]  * vorian waves to apachelogger 
[13:16]  * markey hugs apachelogger 
[13:25] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ping
[13:25] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[13:27] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I was thinking about adding lzma support to the release script. do you have any opinion on this?
[13:28] <Nightrose> not really nope
[13:29] <apachelogger> markey: ^
[13:30] <apachelogger> Nightrose: maybe it should spit out a bzip2 tar and a lzma compressed one
[13:33] <apachelogger> then again would using tar with lzma make sense at all :S
[13:34] <apachelogger> or maybe just go with 7z ;-)
[13:39]  * markey has no idea what apachelogger is talking about 
[13:40] <apachelogger> ~wp lzma
[13:40] <kubotu> Results for lzma: 1. Lempel-Ziv-Markov chain algorithm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZMA | 2. LZMA - Wikipédia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZMA | 3. LZMA: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZMA
[13:40] <kubotu> [1] The Lempel-Ziv-Markov chain-Algorithm (LZMA) is an algorithm used to perform data compression. It has been under development since 1998[1] and is used in the 7z format of the 7-Zip archiver. This algorithm uses a dictionary compression scheme somewhat similar to LZ77 and features a high compression ratio (generally higher than bzip2 [2][3]) and a variable compression-dictionary size (up to 4 GB).[4]
[13:40] <apachelogger> markey: ^
[13:42] <apachelogger> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 4,8M 2009-02-22 14:39 amarok-2.0.1.1.tar.bz2
[13:42] <apachelogger> -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 3,5M 2009-02-22 14:39 amarok-2.0.1.1.tar.lzma
[13:42] <apachelogger> if you want the precise values: 5012905 to 3638976
[13:45] <jussi01> hrm, lancelot is missing all the icons/menu entries currently... who borked it?
[13:46] <jussi01> that was weird... I removed it and added again and alls well.... meh
[13:48] <jussi01> hrm, still borked though
[13:49] <jussi01> now the intial entries are there, but no response on clicking a menu, ie. clicking "Games" or "Office" etc
[13:50]  * ScottK waves to apachelogger.
[13:59] <ScottK> The core KDE stuff is all built on the main archs in intrepid-backports.  Would someone please volunteer to audit and see if we are missing other stuff?
[14:00] <ScottK> I think we definitely ought to backport updates to the Universe plasma-widgets that existed in Intrepid since the existing ones won't work with libplasma3.
[14:00] <ScottK> Anything else?
[14:13] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: Qt 4.5 probably did. I think there's a patch somewhere in the pipeline
[14:13] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: ahh
[14:16] <ryanakca> ScottK: *nod*, was there any decision as for leaving or replacing 4.2?
[14:16] <ScottK> Not by me.
[14:17] <ScottK> I'm still looking for someone who can change /topic in #kubuntu to add it there.
[14:17] <ScottK> ryanakca: As far as I'm concerned you're the webmaster, so whatever.
[14:18] <ryanakca> ScottK: What do you want me to append / add?
[14:18] <ScottK> ryanakca: For /topic?
[14:18]  * ryanakca nods
[14:18] <ScottK> I'd say something like I added to /topic here.  Up to you.
[14:20] <ryanakca> There :)
[14:22] <ScottK> ryanakca: Thanks.
[15:42] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/revision/33 should be of interest for backports
[15:45] <mib_371v01xa> hii all
[15:46] <mib_371v01xa> how can i compile a qt program?
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> Also: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdeedu/ubuntu/revision/16
[16:10] <nixternal> kmail is a mess
[16:24] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Does the python-dev thing apply to Intrepid too?
[16:25] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Also, that's almost certainly a work around, not the correct fix.
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, come to think of it
[16:25] <JontheEchidna> I believe that a duplicate of this one was close that had a traceback.. I should find that
[16:26] <JontheEchidna> Original exception was:
[16:26] <JontheEchidna>  Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:26] <JontheEchidna>    File "/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma_scriptengine_python/pyappletscript.py", line 19, in <module>
[16:26] <JontheEchidna>      from PyQt4.QtCore import *
[16:26] <JontheEchidna>  ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtCore.so: undefined symbol: PyExc_ValueErro
[16:27] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: If you'd add intrepid-backports via also affects and upload to intrepid-backports, I can accept them.
[16:27] <JontheEchidna> Ok
[16:27] <JontheEchidna> So I can upload things to intrepid-backports even though I'm just an motu, but you have to accept them?
[16:28] <ScottK> Yes
[16:28] <JontheEchidna> Ok, that clears things up
[16:28] <ScottK> But we don't want to do a lot of it.
[16:30]  * JontheEchidna will be back in a bit
[16:53] <JontheEchidna> What to do about bug 332937?
[16:54] <JontheEchidna> Do we want to backport the kde 4.2 version of digikam to intrepid?
[16:56] <ScottK> Let's let the current 4.2 backport settle in a bit first.
[16:59] <nhandler> What is the status of the arts removal? According to Bug #320915, it looks like all of the Dependencies have been rebuilt
[17:12] <ScottK> nhandler: What does apt-cache rdepends say?
[17:20] <a|wen> ScottK: the only things left is some NBS packages
[17:20] <ScottK> OK, then the next trick would be getting those to be removable.
[17:21] <ScottK> If they are NBS and have no rdepends, then you can go ahead and ask for removal.
[17:21] <a|wen> somebody told that it was no need, as they would be removed automatically
[17:22] <ScottK> I meant for arts.
[17:22] <ScottK> Yes, the NBS ones will once they have no rdpends.
[17:23] <ScottK> For example, kdelibs4-doc is NBS, but koffice still build-dep on it, so until that's fixed, kdelibs4-doc can't get removed.
[17:23] <a|wen> okay, i'll just check how the status is then
[17:23] <ScottK> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/kdelibs4-doc
[17:26] <a|wen> seems libsdl1.2debian still depends on libsdl1.2debian-arts
[17:27] <a|wen> i'll check that the rest is gone as soon as my jaunty chroot is updated
[17:47] <a|wen> ScottK: libsdl1.2debian depends on libsdl1.2debian-arts for sparc, as it lacks behind in building a new version
[17:47] <a|wen> that's the only thing we have left
[17:47] <ScottK> I just hit retry on that a few hours ago.
[17:47] <ScottK> It should build as the kernel bug it FTBFS on last time has been fixed.
[17:48] <a|wen> okay, perfect ... so when that build is done we should be good to go
[17:52] <ScottK> If someone wants to get kdelibs4-doc out of koffice build-dep I'd be glad to sponsor it.
[17:53]  * a|wen wonders what a -doc is doing in a build-dep
[18:01] <ScottK> It's for apidox I think
[18:04] <ScottK> I'm trying something out in that regard right now.
[18:18] <jussi01> hrm... is there a kde4 version of qtparted yet?
[18:18] <ScottK> Isn't qtparted dead?
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> quite dead
[18:18] <ScottK> IIRC there was some discussion as it ought to be removed.
[18:18] <jussi01> ScottK: no idea, hence the queston..
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> I hear that there's an unrelated replacement somewhere in playground
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> partitionmanager
[18:19] <ScottK> We have that.
[18:19] <jussi01> we do? /me looks
[18:19] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: How about a removal bug for qtparted.
[18:19] <jussi01> is it not gone already?
[18:19] <jussi01> !info qtparted jaunty
[18:20] <ScottK> Sure enough.  rmadison agrees.
[18:20] <ScottK> Even better.
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> great
[18:21]  * jussi01 couldnt find it, which was what prompted the question...
[18:22] <jussi01> hrm, curious, partition manager seems to not take on the kde4 theme I have... Bug?
[18:23] <JontheEchidna> is it run as root?
[18:23]  * jussi01 headdesks... idiot
[18:23] <JontheEchidna> :P
[18:24] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: any ideas on when that fix for lancelot is going to be sorted?
[18:24] <JontheEchidna> when kdeplasma-addons is next uploaded
[18:25] <jussi01> ok. and that is going to be approximately when? ;)
[18:25]  * jussi01 hugs JontheEchidna
[18:25]  * JontheEchidna shrugs
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> whenever a core-dev feels like uploading I guess
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> urgh, I think we will have to backport koffice2
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> or maybe backport cmake to the kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa
[18:30] <ScottK> I think koffice2 doesn't need to be backported.
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> it has a file conflict with the oxygen icon theme
[18:31] <ScottK> Ah.
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> which was fixed in the latest beta
[18:31] <ScottK> So if you use koffice2 from -release and KDE4.2 from backports you have a problem?
[18:32] <JontheEchidna> not sure, though if you are using koffice2 from kubuntu-members-kde4 you definitely have a problem
[18:33] <JontheEchidna> you still have intrepid, right?
[18:33] <JontheEchidna> Oh, koffice2 was never in -release
[18:33] <JontheEchidna> it's in -backports for intrepid
[18:40] <ScottK> If it's in backports already and updating the backport fixes a conflict, I don't mind it being updated.
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> yup, it looks like that the one in backports has the conflict too
[20:20] <JontheEchidna> kde svn 930197
[21:08] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: bad bad bug
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> ?
[21:08] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: plasma update just killed my notes applet including all info on it :/
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> O.o
[21:09] <Nightrose> luckily i got a backup from some time ago
[21:09] <Nightrose> so it is not so bad for me
[21:09] <Nightrose> but that really shouldn't happen
[21:09] <Nightrose> :/
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> sometimes kubuntu-default-settings updates go funky and mess with stuff like that. Was that updated recently?
[21:10] <Nightrose> everything was updated i think with the copying to backports
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> oh, intrepid. nvm about that theory
[21:11] <Nightrose> yea intrepid
[21:20] <Quintasan> night guys
[22:03] <ScottK> So this is what KDE4.2 is like ....
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> :)
[22:30] <ScottK> ark can open .debs now.  That's worth the upgrade all by itself.
[22:30] <ScottK> sudo apt-get remove file-roller
[22:39] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I see you have a kdebase-workspace building in your PPA.  I think we have enough to be worth an upload in bzr.  Will you have more shortly?
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> There is one more change that I was contemplating making: bug 333025
[22:40]  * ScottK looks
[22:40] <JontheEchidna> It's not likely to cause any runtime issues, but it's still technically wrong
[22:41] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: No.
[22:41] <ScottK> If you leave the epoch off it won't be correct.
[22:41] <rgreening> scottk: Im going to look at MOTU. any suggestions or recommendations of what I should do before I apply
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> did desktop-base ever have an epoch?
[22:42] <ScottK> Dunno?
[22:42] <ScottK> I guess that's the question.
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> Doesn't look like it: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktop-base
[22:42] <ScottK> rgreening: Talk to the people who've sponsored you and make sure they are supportive (I am)
[22:43] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I agree.
[22:43] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: How about if I just fix it?
[22:43] <rgreening> scottK ty.
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> That's fine
[22:43] <rgreening> Riddell: ping
[22:43] <ScottK> OK.  Will do
[22:44] <Tonio_> rgreening: I'm sorry to be a bit late concerning kpackagenit... I've been super busy recently... and that won't change until wednesday
[22:44]  * Tonio_ notices there seem to be a bug with the printer applet.... multi copies printing won't work
[22:44] <rgreening> ok. when you get it ready...
[22:53] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Actually since bindings are currently brokenish due to Python 2.6, I'm not sure this is a good time to upload.
[23:07] <Riddell> rgreening: kindae pong
[23:07] <rgreening> im looking to apply 4 motu. got your support :)
[23:07] <Riddell> ooh, excellent
[23:08] <rgreening> :P
[23:08] <rgreening> ty
[23:09] <Riddell> rgreening: what's your package upload history like? have you done much packaging from scratch?
[23:10] <rgreening> hmm.. not sure.not 100% from scratch.
[23:11] <rgreening> kvirt4, qtjambi,
[23:11] <Riddell> ooh that reminds me, new qtjambi needs packaging (for the last time)
[23:14] <Riddell> rgreening: kde 4.2.1 out this week coming I seem to remember, will you help with that?  that's the sort of work they're probably looking for
[23:15] <rgreening> Riddell: yes. Im all setup again to package/update for 4.2.1
[23:15] <rgreening> Riddell: and I can take care of qtjambi
[23:16] <ScottK> The kvirc thing almost counts as from scratch IMO.
[23:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: system-config printer kcm applet seems to be broken, is that known issue ?
[23:17] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm on a fresh install here
[23:17] <Riddell> Tonio_: yes it got broken when s-c-p-common changed, I'll fix it tomorrow
[23:17] <Tonio_> Riddell: oki :)
[23:17] <Riddell> rgreening: lovely
[23:17] <Tonio_> Riddell: also, printing several copies of the same page doesn't work, whatever the printer is...
[23:18] <ScottK> Would someone please highlight me ....
[23:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: probably a little issue with the systray applet
[23:19] <Riddell> systray applet has nothing to do with the printing, it just reports what's happening
[23:19] <kwwii> Riddell: did you see the usplash pic?
[23:19] <Riddell> it's a cups (and/or Qt) issue if you can't print properly
[23:19] <Riddell> kwwii: oh yes, briefly, lots of bars?
[23:20] <Riddell> kwwii: what's the URL again?
[23:20] <rgreening> kwwii: nice looking
[23:20] <rgreening> :)
[23:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: doesn't it pass the options ? then it's a cups issue :)
[23:22] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/jaunty-kusplash.png
[23:22] <Riddell> Tonio_: what gets printed is between the application and cups (and the cups driver)
[23:22] <Riddell> Tonio_: the most printer-applet does it pause and restart and cancel
[23:22] <kwwii> the many bars just show the different states
[23:22] <kwwii> that is not how it will look in the end
[23:22] <Riddell> kwwii: presumably the ubuntu one also has many bars?
[23:22] <kwwii> only one bar will be shown
[23:22] <Riddell> oh
[23:23] <Riddell> I see
[23:23] <Tonio_> Riddell: oki
[23:23] <Riddell> I'm being silly
[23:23] <kwwii> anyway, I gotta get to bed...let me know if you like it and want it and I will make the necessary changes (it also includes more resolutions, etc)
[23:24] <Riddell> kwwii: I think I like it
[23:24] <Riddell> Tonio_, rgreening: do we like it?
[23:24] <kwwii> cool, we'll chat tmororw
[23:24] <kwwii> n8
[23:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: I like it ;)
[23:24] <rgreening> I like it Riddell.
[23:25] <Riddell> kwwii: yep, we like it
[23:25] <rgreening> its sleek and small :)
[23:25] <Riddell> ah but ScottK-laptop is the real test, he's a man of opinion
[23:25] <ScottK-laptop> ScottK: Ping
[23:25] <rgreening> lol
[23:26] <ScottK> I like sleek and small.
[23:26] <ScottK> rgreening: Was it you that was having double notifications problems?
[23:26] <ScottK> I have it now too on 4.2
[23:27] <ScottK-laptop> ScottK: Ping again
[23:28] <rgreening> everrything
[23:29] <rgreening> kopete was a big one
[23:29] <ScottK> That's one we probably ought to figure out.
[23:29] <ScottK> Since it happens on Intrepid too with 4.2, we probably can't put the blame elsewhere.
[23:30] <Riddell> see if you can use the dbus interface directory from qdbus command line
[23:30] <Riddell> that'll tell you if the fault is on the client or the server
[23:30] <ScottK> That's the sort of request I'd need some VERY specific directions on how to do.
[23:32] <Riddell> mm yes, it's probably a bit too late for me to work out the exact command needed
[23:33] <ScottK> Tomorrow then.
[23:33] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Your kubuntu_57_panel_notifications_conf.diff causes FTBFS here when I test build.
[23:35] <ScottK> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/121610/
[23:43] <JontheEchidna> Ugh, that patch is a pain
[23:44] <JontheEchidna> It's what's causing the duplicate notifications
[23:45] <ScottK> That's the one that gives us the control for notifications that we backported?
[23:45] <JontheEchidna> yes
[23:45] <ScottK> I guess we ought to consider dropping it then.
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> when the config is changed it connects some signals twice
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> and we get duplicate notifications
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> I'm all for dropping it
[23:50] <JontheEchidna> dropped in bzr
[23:50]  * JontheEchidna is pushing the rev