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mDemocritusfound the solution for my icon quandry... firefox's application icon is located at /usr/share/firefox/icons/default.xpm or /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm, 48x48 xpm image. i changed both, and it works00:00
chris-rc1dragomir: have you found an input source?00:01
dragomiryes00:02
dragomiron the volum control00:02
dragomirall they are checked00:02
NigelSdragomir: you mean unchecked I hope00:03
NigelSsince the options along the top are "mute"00:04
dragomiroh00:04
dragomirthey have to be unchecked?00:04
NigelSwell not unless you want them muted00:04
dragomir:)00:04
wildbatanyone knoehow do i use skim in Konversation?00:04
mefisto__dragomir: can you do: cat /proc/asound/modules00:04
wildbatanyone know how do i use skim in Konversation?00:04
dragomirsorry mefisto00:05
dragomirI don't know how00:05
dragomiris comand at the terminal00:05
dragomir?00:05
mDemocritusdragomir: yes, run "cat /proc/asound/modules" in a terminal00:06
mefisto__dragomir: open konsole from the menu (or alt+F2 and type konsole) and copy/paste the command: cat /proc/asound/modules00:06
dragomirok00:06
NigelSI really think you should try one thing at once...I'm now confused about whether the sounds channels are muted ;)00:07
helmihello!00:08
mDemocritus!hi | helmi00:08
ubottuhelmi: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:08
dragomirthey are not muted00:09
helmiplease, i want to know how to accelerate download speed of update manager?00:09
ubuntu_hi00:09
mefisto__helmi: you could try changing download servers00:11
helmihow can i do this, am newbie00:12
mefisto__helmi: alt-F2, then type: kdesudo software-properties-kde00:14
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mefisto__helmi: then look in the menu where it says "Download from:"00:14
lucas_Buenas00:15
helmithak u00:15
lucas_Hi00:15
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lucas_This is my first time whit Kubuntu00:16
mefisto__helmi: usually the closest server is faster, but try the others too maybe. especially "main server"00:16
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SJrHow can I assign the meta key as a shortcut by itself?00:29
SJrHow can I change the system tray / notification area to require double click to activate?00:29
SJrI'm having some minor graphical bugs with the System tray as well.00:29
goosfancitohola a todos00:34
bazhang!ar00:34
ubottuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe00:34
GWildHello - as a first Kubuntu installation would you recommend 8.10 or 8.04?00:36
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chris-rc1GWild: i don't even know which version we have now :-) hardy is 8.04, right?00:40
dsnaikeGWild 8.1000:40
GWildhmm00:40
GWilddecisions decisions....00:41
GWildone is kde 3.5 and one is 4.x right?00:41
mefisto__GWild: 8.04 and 8.10 are very different in kubuntu00:41
DragnslicerIf you go with 8.10, make sure to install KDE 4.2 from the PPA repository00:41
mefisto__GWild: right, that's the main decision00:41
GWildI've heard that 4.x is a bit buggy....00:42
dsnaikeGwild 4.200:42
mefisto__GWild: 4.2 is much improved, but you have to install from the experimental PPA repository00:42
GWilddsnaike: 4.2 and 8.10 eh?00:42
GWildmefisto__: ok00:43
GWildhmm00:43
GWildI'm brand new to Kub, so pardon the elementary questions00:43
GWildI like it though - ran Gentoo for several years00:43
GWildand it's tedious......00:43
mefisto__GWild: there's also Jaunty 9.04 which you can install now, or wait for official release in april00:43
dsnaikeGWild google kde 4.2 and read00:43
GWildwill do00:43
GWildI actually have 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) installed00:44
GWildit's what I'm using now00:44
GWildbut several things are strange00:44
dsnaikethen get 4.200:44
dsnaikelike00:44
GWildok00:44
mefisto__GWild: much fewer things are strange in 4.2, but still far from perfect00:45
GWildhmm, maybe I'll just install 8.04 w/ 3.5 and wait00:45
GWildI'll have to decide00:45
dsnaikeGWild take ur time with application installs after the upgrade research first00:45
GWilddsnaike: ok00:46
mefisto__GWild: another option is to partition your disk so you can install many and decide which you like00:46
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GWildmefisto__: that's a good option too00:47
GWildout of curiosity - I have two physical drives and Kub is installed on 100:47
GWildwhat app would you recommend to rearrange the partitions/mountpoints?00:48
GWildI want to use the other unused drive00:48
GWildand integrate it into the system00:48
mefisto__GWild: gparted is nice and easy to use00:48
dsnaikeGWild i have 2 160 gig hd's parted 80gigs each distro on each00:48
dsnaikeno windows00:49
GWildno windows00:49
GWildI have a Win box since I must for work but I only 'use' Linux00:49
dsnaikemy lappy handles that00:50
GWildgparted - I'm going to check that out - move the mountpoints around00:50
GWildIf I'm not here in one hour I'm reinstalling!!00:50
dsnaikebe carefull00:50
GWildwill do - I've never used gparted00:51
GWildand I've never done this after the fact - always before....00:51
mefisto__GWild: gparted lets you play around with things but won't make any changes till you apply00:52
GWildunderstood00:52
GWildty00:52
mefisto__GWild: but if you make many changes, then change back, then change again, gparted will do all those steps if you apply, and it will take a long time00:53
GWildmefisto__: I see - applies them in fifo sounds like00:53
macois konqueror incompatible with google reader?00:55
mefisto__maco: works for me00:58
macomefisto__: jaunty?00:58
DarkTani having a problem with my graphics card. I switched my laptop to dual screen with a projector and have been stuck with 640x480 ever since00:58
macoi just get the header and "Loading..." in the little orange bar, and then the rest is blank. konq says "page loaded"00:58
Dragnslicermaco- have Javascript disabled, maybe?01:00
macolaunchpad works, so i dont think so01:01
mefisto__maco: works in hardy and intrepid VM for me01:01
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macoyeah js is enabled01:02
DarkTananyone know how to fix problem with an ATI card?01:10
mefisto__what problem, DarkTan?01:10
DarkTani having a problem with my graphics card. I switched my laptop to dual screen with a projector and have been stuck with 640x480 ever since01:10
familyWhat is the command to install nvidia drivers?01:11
Bugsbanesudo jockey-kde01:11
Bugsbanethen choose the nvidia driver01:11
Bugsbaneand apply01:11
Bugsbaneoops kdesudo jockey-kde01:11
Bugsbane(sudo on a gui is *bad*)01:11
mefisto__Bugsbane: also, oops ati driver :)01:12
familyThanks a lot bugsbane01:12
Bugsbanenp01:12
mefisto__Bugsbane: oops, sorry, got that mixed up. thought you were talking to DarkTan01:12
Bugsbane@ mephisto_ lol, I was scratching my head over that one...01:13
bbaptiwhere can i get help upgrading to kde4.2 from intrepid 4.101:13
DarkTani actually used that info, gonna reboot and see what happens01:13
bbaptii'm starting from a fresh install from cd of 8.10 64bit version01:15
bbaptithen i added the reposatory and added the key01:15
bbaptiwith the instructions on the cite http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.201:16
Bugsbaneok, then all you need to do is add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main to your sources and do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and reboot01:16
bbaptiso i did that01:16
bbaptiand a ton of stuff was missing....01:17
v4lentinemm... somebody's french here?...01:17
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bbaptiit, from what i could tell, failed to comit some of the packages01:17
DarkTanwell i re-enabled the proprietary driver, and that didn't help any01:18
Bugsbanehmmm... would be worth looking at dpkg.log in /var/log it should give you some hints as to what happened01:18
Bugsbane(that was to @bbapti)01:19
mefisto__!fr | v4lentin01:19
ubottuv4lentin: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr01:19
bbaptiso i went back and reinstalled from cd....because i am tied to using a wifi connection, and when i cam back in there were so many packages missiing that things like knetworkmanager were broken and i coulnt try and reinstall packages01:19
Bugsbane@bbapti I would try doing sudo dpkg --configure -a then sudo apt-get install -f a couple of times and see if that helps01:20
bbaptibugsbane.....step four on that cite......is there anything that i should do from a fresh install or is that only if you add things after01:20
bbaptii actually had to do that to get it happy before i tried to restart and ot crippled01:20
Bugsbane@bbapti sometimes it just needs somethings installed first and other things configured second. So if you do this a few times often it will work itself out.01:21
mefisto__!resolution01:21
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution01:21
Bugsbane@bbapti Do you get a specific error in the console?01:21
trevorhey01:21
bbaptiit told me that there were no packages needed upgrading or installed....it said one thing got helf back01:21
mefisto__DarkTan: try that resolution link ^^01:22
trevori just installed kubuntu and updated to kde 4.201:22
trevorwhy does my laptop seem to be incredibly hot01:22
DarkTanchecking the link now mefisto__01:22
mefisto__DarkTan: or look in /etc/X11 and see if there are any xorg.conf backups01:22
Bugsbane@bbapti So when you do sudo apt-get upgrade it should say what package is held back. Can you say which one?01:22
roccity_4.2 is awesome has a slight different feel under the hood01:22
Bugsbane4.2 feels *much* faster. :)01:22
roccity_Bugsbane: yeah seems to be more together01:23
bbaptiwell i have since had to start over.....i just wanted to make sure that i didnt "miss" anything obvious01:23
bbaptii will attempt it again and give chime in if i see any errors or anything01:24
Bugsbane@bbapti  Usually it's either just what I typed above, or if you're using experimental ppa's, some bad packaging or conflicts (such as Amarok Neon had two packages trying to write one file).01:24
bbaptithanks for the help guys i will let you know how i make out01:24
bardokmoin01:24
Bugsbane@bbapti  if it's the second, you can --force it but it's a bit dangerous if you don't know what youre doing01:24
Bugsbane@bbapti  no problem. Good luck!01:24
bardokwie werde ich die vierer kde los??????01:25
DarkTanok, xandr stats my max screen res id 640x480, which is way wrong01:25
bardokwee can ai kill the 4. kde killin?? i'will the 3 kde01:25
bbaptiyou know its funny i did this on my laptop that i am using now ...and all i had to do was   sudo dpkg --configure -a then sudo apt-get install -f01:26
Bugsbane@bardok If you are trying to kill an app in KDE4 press ctrl+Esc, choose it and click "Kill"01:27
bbaptiand it worked fine.01:27
bbapti.......oh......i think i know what i screwd up01:27
Bugsbane@bbapti Awesome. That's what we like to hear. :)01:27
bbaptii dont think i ran the dpkg --configure -a01:27
bbaptii just did the apt-get install-f01:27
Bugsbane@bbapti Yes??01:27
Bugsbane@bbapti Ahhhhhh...01:28
Bugsbane@bbapti We live and learn. :)01:28
DarkTanmefisto__: xrandr doesn't seem to be doing anything for me01:28
bbaptibecause apt said or.....so i just did the last one01:28
bbaptihahahahah well take 201:28
bbaptiwhat does the dpkg comand do?01:28
roccity_bbapti: it installs packages01:29
bbaptithat the apt get command doesnt01:29
roccity_bbapti: so dpkg -i some package01:29
roccity_it's the command line version of gdebi01:30
bardokthx for this tip01:30
bardok^^01:30
mefisto__DarkTan: try editing xorg.conf like the example on that page. the display subsection and the monitor section are the things to work on01:30
DarkTanwell i can't even figure out what i need to put in for modifying the display01:31
mefisto__DarkTan: man xorg.conf  gives detailed info if you need it01:31
bbaptioh hey...one question before01:32
bbaptii go fot it01:32
DarkTanfor example: the pages tells me to enter "xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768"01:32
DarkTani know LVDS should be changed to what ever my output is01:33
mefisto__DarkTan: try the display subsection first, putting in the highest resolution you need01:33
bbaptishould i do an upgrade with out the 4.2 reposatory in there first or does it matter.....ie go directly to 4.2 from the cd install01:33
DarkTanwell i doesn't tell me what the display is01:33
roccity_bbapti: what do you mean01:34
roccity_are you going to do a fresh install or apt-get upgrade?01:34
bbaptiright now from a fresh install from the cd there are a bunch of things that need updating01:34
bbaptishould i do that first then go to 4.201:34
bbaptior just go for 4.2 right away01:34
roccity_bbapti: if its a apt-get one yes upgrade 4.1 one first01:35
bbaptiok so make 4.1 fully up to date....then do the 4.2 upgrade procedure01:35
roccity_bbapti: it will cut down on problems later01:35
bbaptiok good idea01:35
sensaeHello01:36
roccity_bbapti: yeah you should do that with any major upgrade01:36
sensaeI'm having weird blue corruption on my notification tray icons01:36
bbaptiok good idea01:36
mefisto__DarkTan: in the "Screen" section, put in SubSection "Display", Modes "1024x768", EndSubSection (like in the example, each on its own line)01:37
bbaptithanks agian guys01:38
anouarhi every one01:40
mandyhola01:41
anouaru speak english ??01:41
DarkTanok, where is the xorg.conf file at?01:44
mefisto__DarkTan: /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:44
DarkTan0_o I have 7 xorg.conf files01:45
DarkTanis that supposed to be that way?01:45
mefisto__DarkTan: they are probably backups. there should be just one being used, named xorg.conf01:46
roccity_DarkTan: are they back ups?01:46
DarkTanone is xorg.conf, the rest are xorg.conf(1-6)01:46
roccity_DarkTan: if they have ~ after them they are back ups01:46
roccity_DarkTan: yeah they are back ups01:47
DarkTanwell they don;t have the ~ after them01:47
roccity_DarkTan: are they copies?01:48
mefisto__DarkTan: xorg.conf.6 is probably the most recent. look at what's in that and compare it to your current xorg.conf01:48
DarkTanmeh, 6 is the same as current, 5 and 1 are missing almost everything, 2-4 are the same, each with two sections for 640x48001:50
SuspectZerowhts a good application that can open virtual machines for me01:50
SuspectZeroi tried vbox but it doesnt seem to work properly01:51
mefisto__SuspectZero: virtualbox01:51
SuspectZeroi tried that but i get an error that i cant seem to fix01:51
tuxivirtualbox works just fine for me01:51
SuspectZeroanything else?01:51
tuxisome have used qemu (iirc)01:51
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mefisto__DarkTan: make a backup of xorg.conf, then try editing one of the backups with 640x480 adding the resolution you want, then save that as xorg.conf01:53
DarkTanok, i try that01:54
mefisto__DarkTan: or pastebin one of them if you like so we can take a look at what you have http://paste.ubuntu.com/01:55
DarkTani like that idea better01:55
DarkTanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/121276/01:56
mefisto__DarkTan: what resolution do you want?02:00
DarkTan1280x768 i think02:00
DarkTanis that a valid widescree res? i can't remember what it used to be02:00
macoDarkTan: 1280x800 usually, i think02:06
DarkTani dunno, i'd have to reboot in to windows to find out02:06
mefisto__DarkTan: use the gtf command to get a proper modeline for xorg.conf02:07
mefisto__DarkTan: like this: gtf 1280 768 6002:08
mefisto__DarkTan: that would be for 1280x768 @ 60 Hz02:08
DarkTanok02:08
DarkTan""1280x768_60.00"  80.14  1280 1344 1480 1680  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync"02:09
mefisto__DarkTan: ok, try this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121277/02:13
mefisto__DarkTan: keep a backup of your current one in case you can't login graphically02:13
mefisto__DarkTan: so you can change it back02:13
DarkTani've already done so02:13
DarkTanalso backed up the back up ^^02:13
racecar56hey my computers went insane when i ran that command that removed gnome02:15
racecar56agh at least it's done with02:15
DarkTanyes, it will do that02:15
* DarkTan did that once, had to do a full reinstall02:15
racecar56yeah02:16
racecar56i had to do it too02:16
racecar56because i always make my /home partition seprate i didnt lose my data :>02:16
mefisto__racecar56: so you did a full reinstall?02:17
racecar56yes02:17
* DarkTan keeps all his stuff on a ntfs partition so windoze can access it too02:17
racecar56lol@windoze02:17
muxomorhow you make startus with * ?02:18
DarkTanMicrosuck Windoze XD02:18
muxomor*z02:18
muxomormeh02:18
mefisto__muxomor: you type /me  and it's replaced with your name02:18
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* muxomor is curious02:18
muxomorthanks ! :-)02:18
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DarkTanso, what do i do with that mode line?02:19
mefisto__DarkTan: I put it in the one I gave you :http://paste.ubuntu.com/121277/02:19
mefisto__DarkTan: just use that as your xorg.conf02:20
mefisto__DarkTan: I added line 55, and changed lines 66 and 6702:21
DarkTanok, now what do i do?02:21
racecar56microsuck windoze XDDDD02:21
racecar56lolz02:21
* racecar56 lol'z02:21
DarkTanreboot or just change the res?02:21
mefisto__DarkTan: logout, restart X from the login menu and login again. or just alt-ctrl-backspace to restart X immediately (everything in kde will shutdown, so save anything you need to first)02:23
DarkTanok, will do so now02:23
mefisto__DarkTan: do you know how to do a console login ?02:23
racecar56hey darktan do you think that windows 7 wil fail?02:24
mefisto__hope he can restore that backup if it doesn't work02:24
racecar56doh02:24
muxomordoes anyone use psad?02:31
racecar56the clock is in military time O_o how do i fix that02:34
DragnslicerSystem Settings -> Date and Time, I think02:35
DragnslicerSorry, Regional and Language02:36
mefisto__yeah, weird how it's in there02:36
mefisto__most people don't think of date and time as a language thing02:37
Walzmynsince i've updated to interpid I cannot get my printer to work02:39
mefisto__Walzmyn: are your printer and settings still there?02:41
Walzmynmefisto__, yes, it still lists the printer02:41
Walzmyneverything says it's printing - just nothing happens at the printer, mefisto__02:41
mefisto__Walzmyn: try removing then reinstalling cups02:42
Walzmynmefisto__, though apt?02:42
mefisto__Walzmyn: have you tried setting up a second version of your printer?02:43
Walzmynmefisto__, i'm not sure how. the printer stuff is all different in 8.1002:43
mefisto__try the browser interface: http://localhost:63102:45
SJrPlasma and Xorg are taking up 75% of my cpu on a my core 2 duo machine, even though composting is off suggestions?02:46
Walzmynmefisto__, i found a different printer interface (i'd already found 3) that allowed me to uninstall the printer and re-install it, we'll test it now02:47
Walzmynwoohoo! she prints!02:48
mefisto__Walzmyn: what interface did you use? something in the menu?02:48
Walzmynmefisto__, I guess I should thank you. I was scrolling though the Kmenu looking for adept when I found that printer interface02:48
WalzmynKmenu>application>sysetm>printing02:49
WalzmynI'd just not seen it there02:49
SJrWhere do I file bugs for KDE with Kubuntu? KDE or Kubuntu's bug reporting.02:50
WalzmynSJr, depends on the bug, if it's local to kubuntu or all of KDE02:51
Walzmynwhich may be hard to determine02:51
SJrlol yes I know, but who will bitch at me less for posting on the wrong forum.02:51
Walzmynweal, based on the people on the chat channels, kubuntu will bitch less02:52
Walzmynbut i think the bug people are all pretty ameaniable in both camps02:52
SJrrofl02:52
SJrYeah I dunno what it is about freenode but there vicious02:52
Walzmynhaving never reported a bug (I always find them after they've been fixed) I cannot help ya there02:53
mefisto__https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug  but do a search first to see if someone else has filed the same bug. might even find a workaround or solution02:54
mefisto__SJr: kde programs have "report a bug" in the help menu02:56
SJrHmmmm I've already searched there bug database, but didn't find anything02:56
SJrubuntu's bug tracker seems down02:57
mefisto__that's the ubuntu one I gave you. here's kubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs02:59
SJrProbably also down03:00
SJrAh no it's up03:01
racecar56restarting xorg i updated to 4.2 from 4.1.403:07
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flicehi03:09
fliceafter upgrading to KDE 4.2 on Ubuntu 8.10 from backports, the "end" key stopped working in text fields (both QT and GTK)03:10
mefisto__kde 4.2 is in backports now?03:17
JontheEchidnayeah03:18
JontheEchidnasome packaging bugs are still being ironed out03:18
mefisto__so it's still better to upgrade through the experimental ppa? or is it the same?03:19
JontheEchidnait's the same03:19
JontheEchidnaif you already have 4.2 you shouldn't have any problem going from ppa -> backports03:20
mefisto__I suppose there's other things in backports apart from 4.2 though that you might not want, right?03:20
JontheEchidnaright, I suppose03:24
stretchhow do i find more chats ?03:24
ibuffyoccasionally my keyboard quits responding... what's with this?03:25
ibuffytypically it's just kde apps, but last time... even firefox didn't respond03:25
JontheEchidnamaybe sticky keys are somehow being activated03:26
JontheEchidnayou could try holding a key down for a while next time it happens03:26
stretchyeah i have that too sometimes...03:26
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trevorhey, i am having problems activating my ati graphics card with the hardware drivers selection03:33
trevorhow can i do that?03:33
trevoror is there a better way03:33
mefisto__is it listed in hardware drivers?03:38
trevoryes?03:39
trevori click activate and it doesnt do anything03:40
trevorjust sits there03:40
mefisto__xorg-driver-fglrx is what it installs03:41
trevorsooooo03:41
trevorif03:41
trevori were to put in a terminal command what would it be do you know?03:41
mefisto__sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx03:41
trevorthats what i thought03:42
trevorthanks03:42
draik_I want to recover files from the HDD. What apps would you all recommend? I can access the XP drive and a LiveCD without touching the Kubuntu HDD.03:43
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srujanhave anyone used monodevelop03:44
trevorok so i put in the konsole command it everything went fine, but it still isnt activated03:45
trevorand i cant do anything when i click activate03:46
mefisto__trevor: put in Driver "fglrx" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the "Device" section03:47
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mefisto__trevor: on its own line: Driver "fglrx"03:47
syrothhey quick question anyone got a min?03:47
mefisto__trevor: then save it, and restart X. hopefully it will work with the right resolution03:48
InfernoLinuxHey, I need help finding/installing a network driver on a gigabyte ex58-ud5 mainboard03:48
trevorok can i copy and paste what is in this file for me, and you can tell me where to put it03:49
trevorive never had a problem in ubuntu or mint or fedora, but for whatever reason this seems completely different to me03:50
mefisto__!paste | trevor03:51
ubottutrevor: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:51
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Totskihello03:52
trevorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com:80/121305/03:53
InfernoLinuxcan anyone help me get my onboard lan ports to work03:57
SlartibartfastInfernoLinux, seems a Realtek RTL8111C chip03:57
InfernoLinuxso what do I do03:58
InfernoLinuxits a fresh install of 8.10 kde403:58
Slartibartfastmaybe you'll read in this thread ... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-671614.html ... but it seems to be for Hardy  ...03:59
mefisto__trevor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121310/  lines 25-27 are options I needed to get video working properly. might be different for your particular card03:59
SlartibartfastInfernoLinux, sory seems for gutsy, don't know if it is still not fixed04:01
syroththis is directed towards anyone / everyone , in my last set of updates mysql was installed on its own ( just did a mark all upgrades in synaptic)04:02
syrothand i want to know if anyone knows why or how i can figure out why04:02
InfernoLinuxgahhh that was a lot of reading for the bottom to say they "fixed" the bug04:02
trevorthanks mefisto, i will give it a try later04:03
InfernoLinuxSlartibartfast I had to use the driver from the cd to get it to work in vista because windoze update is an rtard and tried to update it with faulty software. I think I just need to find the driver for this chip04:04
Slartibartfastyes sorry, download the http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#204:04
Slartibartfastmaybe that helps ...04:04
SlartibartfastFollow the instructions in the Realtek readme04:05
InfernoLinuxseems silly but which one should i grab04:05
Slartibartfastbut wait ...... if you do modprobe r8168 ... you can not configure a network?04:06
InfernoLinuxlet me try04:07
InfernoLinuxmodule not found04:07
Slartibartfastand what if you do modprobe r8169 ?04:08
mefisto__does modprobe need sudo ?04:09
InfernoLinuxError inserting r8169 (blahblah) Operation not permitted04:10
InfernoLinuxif i do it with sudo nothing echos04:10
Slartibartfastthen the module is probably loaded04:10
Slartibartfastcan test with lsmod |grep r816904:11
InfernoLinuxbut when i click on knetworkmanager it doesnt see either of the ETH ports04:11
InfernoLinuxlsmod |grep r8169 returns <r8169   40196 0>04:12
Slartibartfastso it is loaded ....04:12
Slartibartfast"dmesg |grep eth0" gives output?04:13
InfernoLinuxnegative04:14
Slartibartfastmmm strange ... so the module loads perfectly for the hardware, but it does not see the hardware ...04:15
InfernoLinuxits bloody perplexing i tell you04:16
Slartibartfastso another road you can take is try the driver from the realtek website ... there is a linux driver listed ... read the docs there howto do ...04:17
ETieokay im back04:20
ETienow on ubuntu04:20
ETieman, there is 122 proc on this thing04:21
santiagoHi! I have a question...04:27
ETiego on04:28
santiagois there anyway for konqueror to have plugins for "share this" and "Diigo"??04:28
ETiemeh04:29
SlartibartfastInfernoLinux, maybe this thread also is helpful for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53844804:29
SlartibartfastSeems a lot of people have problems with this chip04:29
mefisto__ETie: I have 222 processes. I win :)04:29
ETiemefisto__:  ive seen shells with 30 processes04:32
ETieits not a contest im sure04:32
mefisto__just kidding around ETie04:33
impsThis is just a a quick question but, how hard is it to get wine installed and working?04:33
mefisto__imps: sudo apt-get install wine04:34
impsOh, so its relatively simple?04:34
mefisto__imps: how well it works depends largely on the program I think04:34
impsJust need to get HL2 working.04:35
impsGoogle is telling me its  support.  Thanks for the info, mesfisto04:36
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silver_swordshi all04:44
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trevorhey, mefisto, you still there04:47
trevorwhen i try to edit my xorg.conf, it says i dont have the permission to edit it, how do i get write access04:47
gordshi all! what are the free rtmp server which runs on ubuntu 8?04:49
mefisto__if you're using a graphical editor like kate, kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf      or in terminal  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:49
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trevori was just using kate04:50
mefisto__trevor: but if for some reason it completely fails and X doesn't start, you'll need to do console login and do it with sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to remove Driver "fglrx"04:50
trevori tried sudp gedit04:50
trevorsudo i mean04:50
mefisto__trevor: sudo in console programs, kdesudo for graphical "gui" ones04:51
caustin_Anyone here tripple booting with Vista, XP and Kubuntu?04:51
trevorwhen i open it up in terminal with both nano and kate /etc/.... it brings up blank documents04:54
mefisto__trevor: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:54
trevorthats what i used04:54
trevorand it is blank04:54
trevorwhen it comes up04:55
mefisto__trevor: capital X ?04:55
trevoryes04:55
mefisto__X1104:55
trevorthere we go04:55
trevori got it to come up04:56
mefisto__trevor: the commands at the bottom of the nano screen eg, ^X ^W means ctrl-X ctrl-W etc04:57
trevorawesome, thanks so much mefisto04:59
scott_evanyone know the kubuntu development channel?04:59
trevorit is working now04:59
mefisto__trevor: you exited and saved it?04:59
mefisto__trevor: you need to restart X to see if it works after saving it05:01
silver_swordsanybody got yahoo messenger 9 working in wine?05:03
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santiagois there anyway for konqueror to have plugins for "share this" and "Diigo"??05:19
draik_DaSkreech: The backup failed. I'm using hope and prayer to recover my files.05:25
DaSkreechHow much of the files came across?05:25
draik_Recover Data for Linux is still at 4% for the last 45 minutes. Nothing showing.05:26
draik_Stellar Phoenix Linux Data Recovery is coming up with a total of 2.08GB :) and counting05:26
draik_It just jumped from 2.04 to 2.20GB05:26
draik_*2.08 to 2.25GB now.05:27
* draik_ likes Stellar Phoenix for recovery05:27
DaSkreech:-D05:30
DaSkreechWhere did you find it?05:30
draik_DaSkreech: Do you mean the app?05:32
DaSkreechYes05:32
DaSkreechhi peacesarah05:32
draik_Google05:32
draik_"linux disk recovery"05:32
DaSkreechOf course05:32
draik_3.22GB and counting right now05:33
draik_50,000+ files05:33
DaSkreechNice05:33
draik_:)05:33
draik_What is a *.7z file?05:34
DaSkreechA compressed file05:34
draik_OK. Never seen that extension.05:34
draik_DaSkreech: ARK won't open the *.7z file05:36
DaSkreechThen why did you ask about it?05:36
DaSkreechYou don't have the unzip utility installed05:36
draik_How do I install it?05:37
draik_What is the package name?05:37
draik_What is phonon-backend-xine?05:39
bbaptihey guys....anyone arround that could give some 4.2 upgrade advice05:43
lanceracei need a had with a kde4.2 upgrade problem05:44
lancerace<---same user as bbapti05:44
lanceracei have followed the directions as in theis cite.......http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.205:45
lanceracedid the sudo aptitude update and upgrade05:45
lanceraceit downloaded an and started to install.05:46
lanceracei did the mysql passwd05:46
lanceraceit did some setting up05:46
lanceracethen died05:46
lanceracei did a dpkg --configure -a05:46
lanceraceand an apt-get install -f05:47
lanceraceand it still says A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:05:47
lancerace"05:48
draik_!enter | lancerace05:48
ubottulancerace: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:48
lanceraceErrors were encountered while processing:05:48
lancerace /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb05:48
lanceracesorry05:48
lanceraceany ideas?.......i am running 8.10 fully up to date version of kde 4.1.4 before attempting to do the switch to 4.205:50
lanceraceoh and its 64 bit version if that matters05:50
draik_DaSkreech: 4.05GB in 1 hour. Not bad, huh? It's only a bit over 1/3 done with the drive, too.05:50
DaSkreechSounds nice05:52
mefisto__lol. draik_ I read what you said and thought you meant you were *downloading* something that was 2.25GB05:52
draik_Whoa05:52
DaSkreechdraik_: phonon-backend-xine is the xine backend to phonon05:52
draik_DaSkreech: You don't say ;)05:52
DaSkreechbbapti: 4.2 instructions are in the topic05:52
mefisto__lancerace: so what happens if you try to install kde-window-manager ?05:53
draik_I didn't pay attention to my 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and now I have installed 4.2 on this laptop.05:53
DaSkreechlancerace: can you install that package by itself?05:53
lanceracelets see05:53
DaSkreechdraik_: Whoops :)05:53
draik_Oh well.05:53
draik_I rarely, if ever, reboot this laptop.05:54
draik_What is the deal with 4.2? Is something wrong with it?05:54
mefisto__draik_: I found out just a while ago that 4.2 is in backports repo now05:54
lanceracei get that same error05:54
lanceraceErrors were encountered while processing:05:54
lancerace /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb05:54
DaSkreechdraik_: you don't need to reboot. Just logout press alt+E and log back in05:54
DaSkreechlancerace: remove that file05:55
lanceraceok......woking on it05:55
mefisto__DaSkreech: the file? or remove the package?05:55
DaSkreechThat file05:55
DaSkreechsudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives etc etc05:56
lanceraceok its now dling it agian05:56
lanceracewell i just killed that one file05:56
lanceracebut it errored again05:56
lanceraceslightly diffrent error this thime05:57
draik_Is there anything wrong with KDE4.2?05:57
mefisto__lancerace: try apt-get remove kde-window-manager then reinstall (the upgraded version)05:58
DaSkreechdraik_: as with all KDE 4 relelases so far. If you have a problem with it then something is wrong with it05:58
lanceracecan i just copy in the output of the aptitude that that i get.......or is that too offencive05:58
DaSkreech!paste05:58
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:58
mefisto__lancerace: is it an error about overwriting something?05:59
lanceraceyep05:59
lanceracei was about to try ur sugestion05:59
draik_I guess I will reboot and see what happens. I also want to use the new kernel06:00
mefisto__kde-window-decorator or something?06:00
draik_I hope to see you all soon.06:00
lanceraceby running the command that mefisto recomends it also wants to remove kubuntu-desktop.............should i do this?06:01
DaSkreechlancerace: Yes06:01
lanceraceok....?  here goes06:02
lanceraceno i guess that i will try to install kde-window-manager06:02
lanceracesame error message ....i will try and use the paste bin so u can see my error message06:03
DaSkreechok06:04
lanceracehmmmmm konquoror seems broken now..:(06:04
DaSkreechlancerace: Of course it is06:05
lanceraceCannot Initiate the http Protocol.........booo06:05
DaSkreechlancerace: join #lance-paste06:05
mefisto__:)06:05
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draikDaSkreech: I cannot use the GUI. I have no borders on the windows and the keyboard does not respond.06:25
draikI am in TTY1 on the laptop using IRSSI06:25
DaSkreechdraik: can you jump back to GUI andsee if alt+F2 works ?06:26
draikNothing works in regards to the keyboard. I can't type anything. It's like a keyboard doesn't exist.06:26
DaSkreechdraik: Works on tty2?06:27
ockonaldraik: after updating to kde 4.2?06:27
draikDaSkreech: I'm on TTY1 right now with IRSSI06:27
draikockonal: Yes, after the upgrade to 4.206:27
DaSkreechdraik: ok tty2 try export DISPLAY=:0.006:27
DaSkreechthen kwin&06:27
ockonaldraik: heh =) Wait, please06:27
draikockonal: Ok06:28
michaeldoes anyone in here have any experience upgrading end of life versions06:28
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draikDaSkreech: 'export DISPLAY=:0.0'06:28
ockonaldraik: befero all sace all your data (like bookmarks, contacts) rm -r ~/.kde   then sudo aptitude purge kwin && sudo install kwin06:29
ockonaldraik: *save06:29
DaSkreechhuntz: Sure06:29
DaSkreech!upgrade06:29
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:29
draikHow do I get to TTY2 since I'm using TTY1 right now for IRSII06:29
huntzI am running edgy now and I would rather not throw away my setup just to upgrade06:29
draik*IRSSI06:29
dr_WillisI always install a 'backup' window manager like icewm - just in case KDE dies on me :)06:30
DaSkreechdraik: alt+ctrl+F2 use alt+ctrl+F1 to get back to TTY106:30
DaSkreechdr_Willis: Still need to start it :)06:30
huntzI have been through the upgrade notes06:30
draikIt doesn't do anything, DaSkreech. I'm stuck in IRSSI06:30
dr_WillisDaSkreech,  exit .xinitrc and 'startx' :)06:30
huntzand I am having issues with the patch command06:30
draikI guess I have to quit IRSSI first.06:31
draikWhat are the commands again?06:31
DaSkreechdraik: alt+ctrl+F2 doesn't work ?06:31
DaSkreechhuntz:06:31
draikDaSkreech: Nope.06:31
DaSkreechWhich patch command?06:31
DaSkreechdraik: alt+left arrow ?06:32
draikDaSkreech: Nope.06:33
DaSkreechweird06:33
draikNone of the arrows.06:33
huntzthe command in the guide say sudo patch < DistUpgradeControler.py.patch06:33
draikWhat are the commands again? I'm going to quit IRSSI once I get the commands.06:33
huntzits for patching the upgrade bug in edgy06:34
draikockonal: What was the command you told me to run earlier?06:35
DaSkreechexport DISPLAY=:0.006:35
DaSkreechthen kwin &06:36
ockonaldraik: rm -r ~/.kde06:36
ockonaldraik: sudo aptitude purge kwin && sudo aptitude install kwin06:36
DaSkreechhuntz: that's 6.10 ?06:36
huntzDaSkreech: yes06:37
DaSkreechockonal: how about mv ~/.kde06:37
DaSkreechdraik: use mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebkup06:37
ockonalmm. yeah, thanx06:37
DaSkreechhuntz: So you are reading the EOL upgrades page ?06:37
reboRSorry to break in, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my backup drive. After installation it loaded fine but i've tried to start it up few times afterward but it loads the background image but not the rest of the desktop or menus.06:38
draikDaSkreech: ockonal: OK. I'm going to try now.06:38
DaSkreechockonal: Your mail is kept in ~/.kde not a nice thing to lose for most people06:38
draikDaSkreech: Yeah, I know :(06:39
draikI hope to get my mail back :)06:39
draikWell, hopefully I'll TTY in a bit06:39
russlar@reboR: kquitapp plasma; /usr/bin/plasma >& /dev/null from command line06:39
ockonalDaSkreech: Yeah, thanx. I forgot it ;)06:39
huntzYes I have them printed up I started in safemode06:39
wildbat!fuse06:40
ubottuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems06:40
russlar!!06:40
DaSkreechhuntz: Ok I see it what's the issue?06:41
russlarreboR: you may have to run that twice. Plasma likes to crash on me when using the proprietary Cisco VPN client06:42
huntzDaSkreech: I do the 'sudo do-release-upgrade'06:44
huntzit gives me the patch schtuff for fiesty06:44
huntzthen the command in the guide say sudo patch < DistUpgradeControler.py.patch06:45
draik_DaSkreech: ockonal: WOOHOO! I just needed to do 'sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager'06:45
cllaudyuhow can i stop kde from crashing so often?06:45
draik_FYI- I'm in GUI with borders and (obviously) my keyboard works06:45
russlarcllaudyu: what part of kde is crashing? what version of kde?06:46
huntzand it tells me that file or directory doesn't exist06:46
draik_cllaudyu: When you get your answer, let me know. My KDE4.1.4 desktop kept doing that.06:46
cllaudyukde4.2 plasma and everything is crashing06:46
ockonaldraik_: ;)06:46
russlarcllaudyu: everything everything?06:46
draik_DaSkreech: ockonal: Thanks for your help. Very much appreciated.06:46
cllaudyuevery little thing06:46
russlarthe desktop crashes, but running windows don't?06:46
cllaudyuno06:47
draik_I don't know what it is about 4.2, but it looks simplified, somehow.06:47
draik_DaSkreech: 7.00GB+ and just over 50%06:47
draik_I don't think I'm going to get it all back, but the little things (pix, music, torrents, emails, ~/.kde) are what matter the most.06:48
cllaudyui minimized konversation and got a blank screen06:48
russlarahhh...06:48
russlarplasma crashed06:49
cllaudyuhow can i restore eveything?06:49
* dr_Willis does a transfusion06:49
russlarcan you bring up a terminal window?06:49
cllaudyuit's annoying06:49
cllaudyuim trying that now06:49
cllaudyu i opened a terminal06:50
russlarok06:50
russlardo this: kquitapp plasma06:50
cllaudyuwhat do now?06:51
russlarcllaudyu: kquitapp plasma06:51
cllaudyui got a error06:51
russlarcllaudyu: probably because it wasn't already runnint06:51
russlarcllaudyu: now run this: plasma >& /dev/null06:51
cllaudyuit worked06:52
russlarcllaudyu: :)06:52
cllaudyu)06:52
cllaudyucrashed again :((06:52
russlarit seems to happen to me a lot06:52
russlar?06:52
draik_russlar: I'm not familiar with that. What does '>&' do?06:52
russlardraik_: sends all terminal putput to /dev/null06:52
draik_russlar: Wouldn't '>' alone have sufficed in that case?06:53
russlarmaybe06:53
russlarbut >& looks cooler06:53
cllaudyuthis has no way to be solved?06:53
draik_I don't mean to be an @$$, I am just wondering about the meaning to the command. I know that every character has it's meaning/purpose.06:54
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russlardraik_: it's all good06:54
russlarI think the >& includes errors in the redirect06:54
cllaudyui runned that last command u toled me russlar  but it's doing it over and over again...06:54
russlarhuh06:54
cllaudyucrashing06:55
russlardo ls -lrt in /var/log06:55
draik_russlar: Awesome. Good to know about that command entry. Thanks :)06:55
cllaudyuthanks anway06:56
russlarcllaudyu: something's up, causing plasma to crash instantly06:57
russlarobviously06:57
cllaudyurusslar yeah and nothing got this to stop06:57
russlaris there anything in /var/log/messages ?06:57
cllaudyuwhere is that?06:58
russlarcllaudyu: /var/log/06:59
cllaudyui runned it in the terminal but gave me permision denied06:59
russlarthen tail -50 messages | more06:59
HuntzDaSkreech: did you give up on me...lol06:59
yoleyhey06:59
yoleyhola06:59
russlar!/var/log/messages07:00
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:00
cllaudyui found it07:00
russlarcllaudyu: outstanding07:01
cllaudyuerror  in librdf07:01
draik_Did anyone else here get a PM from yoley?07:02
russlarnope07:02
Huntznegative07:02
draik_OK. I guess I was randomly selected for a "hello" PM07:02
cllaudyuwhat is this nepomukservices07:03
russlarcllaudyu: filesystem metadata07:03
DaSkreechHuntz: Sorry got a call07:03
russlarcllaudyu: it'll be really cool, once they get it right07:03
cllaudyuthat crashes my system07:03
Huntzthats fine I was about to step out for a cig07:03
russlarcllaudyu: you can turn it off in system settings07:04
DaSkreechHuntz: Did you make the patch file?07:04
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cllaudyui'm doing that right now07:04
HuntzDaSkreech: well I asume it came in with the do-release-upgrade07:05
DaSkreechcllaudyu: do this in the terminal kquitapp plasma07:05
Huntzit doesnt say anything about making a patch07:05
draik_I just got a text and my phone won't stop vibrating. LOL.07:05
DaSkreechcllaudyu: then mkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup && plasma07:06
DaSkreechHuntz: No it's right above it in the page07:06
DaSkreechHuntz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:07
cllaudyuDaSkreech it doenst work man07:07
cllaudyudo not work07:07
DaSkreechcllaudyu: Where does it fail ?07:08
russlarDaSkreech: yeah. we've tried that already07:08
DaSkreechcllaudyu: Oh doh sorry wrong fix :)07:08
russlarplasma starts up, then crashes instantly07:08
cllaudyuhmmm07:08
cllaudyuhow can i recover plasma to desktop again?07:09
russlarcllaudyu: what video card are you using?07:09
DaSkreechcllaudyu: are you afraid of the terminal ?07:09
draik_For anyone in KDE4.2 and using Kopete, any issues with connecting to MSN messenger?07:09
cllaudyuonly ma windows are open07:09
russlardraik_: nope07:09
DaSkreechrusslar: ooh good question07:09
DaSkreechdraik_: try install libmsn07:09
draik_!libmsn07:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about libmsn07:10
draik_!info libmsn07:10
ubottuPackage libmsn does not exist in intrepid07:10
russlaroops07:10
cllaudyui'l do a reboot07:10
draik_libmsn0.1 :)07:10
DaSkreech!info libmsn0.107:11
ubottuPackage libmsn0.1 does not exist in intrepid07:11
DaSkreechUmm yeah :)07:11
DaSkreechthat07:11
draik_LOL. It does exist because I just got it.07:12
HuntzDaSkreech: so I need to transfer that patch file text to a file manually?07:12
mefisto__ubottu is getting behind the times07:12
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:12
DaSkreechHuntz:07:12
russlar<ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:12
DaSkreechDon't know07:12
draik_butterly lights up for a sec and fails. Oh well.07:12
DaSkreechI just know that should work07:12
mefisto__oh I don't, ubottu07:12
draik_!botsnack07:13
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!07:13
Texasim tryin to instal wine through my adept manager  and it says it could not commit the changes any help07:13
russlarTexas: try it from terminal07:13
DaSkreechHuntz: copy that patch on the site to DistUpgradeControler.py.patch07:13
russlarTexas: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine07:13
DaSkreechmefisto__: No it's not in intrepid07:14
draik_Texas: Is there a reason why it cannot commit?07:14
Texashow exactly would i do that im very new07:14
russlarTexas: open a termial, and paste the command I just typed out07:14
russlar!aptitude07:14
Texasthank you07:14
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide07:14
draik_Can the Calendar widget on the desktop be changed to have the weeks start on a Sunday and the date format be MM-DD-YYYY?07:17
mefisto__DaSkreech: so how am I getting it? backports?07:17
DaSkreechYou have KDE 4.2 ?07:17
mefisto__DaSkreech: yes07:17
DaSkreechThat's where yo uare getting it from07:18
HuntzDaSkreech: so far it looks like its takin off07:18
DaSkreechapt-cache policy libmsn0.107:18
Texasit didnt work ima coppy and paste what it said07:18
DaSkreech!paste | Texas07:18
ubottuTexas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:18
Texasits not too large07:18
draik_DaSkreech: Was that for me? (libmsn0.1)07:18
mefisto__DaSkreech: kde4.2 is in backports now. I've removed the experimental ppa07:18
russlarDaSkreech: good to know07:18
russlar4.2 is in backports now?07:18
Texasits just the last couple opf lines07:19
DaSkreechmefisto__: ah well I don't think that ubbotu indexes backports07:19
HuntzIk I am gonna see if fiesty takes, be back with updates07:19
DaSkreechTexas: More than 2 ?07:19
Texasahh i see07:19
TexasE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:20
TexasE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:20
TexasE: Couldn't rebuild package cache07:20
russlarTexas: quit adept first07:20
Texasthats god im dumb07:20
Texasthansk07:21
draik_DaSkreech: apt-cache policy libmsn0.1 results in this for candidate and installed:    4.0~beta4-0ubuntu1~intrepid107:21
cllaudyuhey how can i stop this nepomukservices in terminal?07:21
russlarcllaudyu: ps -ef | grep nepomukservices07:22
russlarthe sudo kill -9 that PID07:22
DaSkreechdraik_: That's fine07:22
draik_DaSkreech: OK07:22
cllaudyuthat kills it?07:22
draik_cllaudyu: Yup. You can also do 'sudo killall nepomukservices'07:23
russlarshould07:23
cllaudyui did that and got this: no proces whas terminated07:24
Texasnow is wine a program that i have to open or will windows files automaticly work07:24
draik_Remove the 's' at the end. The process name has to match07:24
russlarthey should work07:24
draik_Texas: Both.07:24
DaSkreechTexas: Check for Linux equivalents first07:25
cllaudyu"sudo kill all" worked07:25
draik_Texas: And "work" is too general of a term. You will want to consult the winehq per app. Some install and run, some install but won't run and others are pure garbage.07:26
russlar!work07:26
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.07:26
draik_russlar: Cool. Didn't know that existed.07:27
cllaudyutell me that command to restore plasma back please07:27
Texasthanks everyone07:27
draik_!works for me07:27
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.07:27
draik_That's the other one I was thinking about for a long time now.07:28
sensaeWhen I type into some programs, my entire screen flickers with black lines - anyone else have this problem?07:28
DaSkreechcllaudyu: kquitapp plasma && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup && plasma07:29
cllaudyukquitapp plasma && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup && plasma07:29
cllaudyuApplication plasma could not be found using service org.kde.plasma and path /MainApplication."07:29
draik_DaSkreech: Just over 66% done and I've recovered 9.15GB and counting.07:29
cllaudyuu saw that?07:30
DaSkreechThat's the error?07:30
cllaudyuyea07:30
russlarplasma's not running07:30
DaSkreechah07:30
russlarso kquitapp can't quit it07:30
DaSkreechcllaudyu:07:30
DaSkreechJust run plasma07:30
cllaudyui need to boot again07:31
cllaudyuF%#K07:31
draik_I have to be at work in 12 hours. Thanks everyone that helped me and I hope to get most, if not all, of my data restored soon. G'night everyone.07:37
russlardraik_: that doesn't sound good.....07:37
russlar!clonzilla07:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about clonzilla07:37
draik_russlar: What doesn't sound good?07:37
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russlardata loss07:37
draik_Oh07:37
russlarcheck out clonzilla07:38
russlarget a spare drive, and make backups07:38
draik_Yeah, DaSkreech has been really cool about helping me out.07:38
russlarwhat happened?07:38
draik_russlar: I did a backup. The backup wasn't successful as it first appeared. Now, I'm trying to recover from a formatted drive.07:38
draik_Out of ~345GB, I appear to be recovering 10GB at this point.07:39
DaSkreech!info clonzilla07:39
ubottuPackage clonzilla does not exist in intrepid07:39
DaSkreech!info clonezilla07:39
ubottuPackage clonezilla does not exist in intrepid07:39
russlardraik_: have fun with that. :-(07:39
draik_russlar: It's been fun for the past 3 days.07:39
russlarDaSkreech: clonzilla.org07:39
DaSkreechOk07:39
draik_Can clonezilla.org help with restoration?07:40
russlarnot really07:41
draik_:(07:41
russlarit's a specialized build of debian, built to do backups and resotres from those backups07:41
russlarusing a mix of partimage, and dd07:41
russlarand gzip07:41
draik_I've had the scan going on for 3 hours now and it is just over 66% done. I'll leave the desktop active and see what results I have in the morning.07:42
draik_G'night all and thanks again for everything.07:42
russlargood luck07:43
draik_Thanks07:43
mefisto__anyone else getting notes plasmoid with no background? I can type in the note, etc, but background is transparent08:06
DaSkreechYeha I have that08:07
rohani am using (k)ubuntu 8.04. somehow from a few days my splash on bootup ends prematurely, and i am presented with the init messages. when the messaged "Reading files needed to boot" appears, splash screen dies. how do i prevent that from happening?08:07
* DaSkreech shrugs08:08
mefisto__DaSkreech: and it's always been like that in 4.208:08
DaSkreechI actually prefer that :)08:08
DaSkreechmefisto__: I had the background till a few days ago08:08
mefisto__DaSkreech: yeah it's not too bad if I make the text white08:09
DaSkreechWell The background I have it's easy to read it on08:09
DaSkreechguess thats why I haven't complained08:09
endbossneed help resurrecting my external 500GB - > http://pastebin.com/m18f1c130 is dmesg output.08:10
dr_Willisendboss,  that output says veyr littke other then 'usb device reset'08:13
endbosswhat information should i output then? it shows in BIOS, doesn't load to the normal media directories.08:13
dr_Willisdid you just try to mount the thing?  give some details.08:14
dr_Williswhen in doubt - try mounting it manually, what filesystems is it using? what does 'sudo fdisk -l' show about it.. .... :)08:15
endbossdoesn't show up in fdisk, or qtparted. it was using fat, was going to convert to ext308:16
dr_WillisIts possible its having issues being seen. or for some reasion the drive 'reset'  dmesg sort of imples that.. as if its having a hardware issue.08:16
dr_Willisis this a laptop-sized external usb drive? or selfpowered? or what exactly?08:17
endbossexternal USB drive. 500GB IDE.08:17
dr_Willis2.5 inch? or 3.5? own  PowerSupply?08:17
endbossseagate barracuta 7200.10, own powersupply 3.508:18
mefisto__rohan?08:18
mefisto__too late08:18
endbosshave attempted plugging into a computer as the only drive, installs dont see it, but it shows up in BIOS.08:18
dr_Willisif bios shows it.. but 'sudo fdisk -l' dosent.. well theres somthing odd going on.08:19
endbosssuggestion to fixing it? besides liquid nitrogen'ing it.08:20
mefisto__tried on another machine?08:20
endbosstried it on this Kubuntu 7.10, a win XP and a desktop.08:21
mefisto__endboss: sudo blkid   ?   probably the same as fdisk08:23
endbossyup, just local hdd.08:23
endbosslsusb doesn't list either08:24
dr_WillisYou may want to switch USB cables/ports also.08:24
dr_WillisSomthing is very odd about it..  Hopefully the HD isent dead/semi-dead08:24
endbossi hope not, 500GB is a lot to lose... =/08:25
endbossokay i ran lsusb without it plugged in, then plugged it back in, it added one, Bus 003 Device 005: ID 040d:6204 VIA Technologies, Inc.08:26
endbossbad blocks maybe?08:27
DaddyLonglegsAdept manager doesn't list anything when I search for a package. Any ideas?08:30
dr_Willisrerun dmesg a few times as you plug it in.. you can watch it get seen/detected/scanned08:30
dr_WillisI would be backing that thing up ASAP :)08:30
dr_WillisI had a 500gb hd die on me the otehr day. with little warning08:31
endbosscheck repos are installed?08:31
DaddyLonglegsYes. apt-get install works perfectly in shell.08:31
endbosswhy would it after detecting it only list this as a line?  [30150.828000]  sda: with nothing else after it?08:32
DaddyLonglegsMe endboss?08:33
endbossnah. dr_willis.08:33
endbossthinking im just gonna RMA it and get a new one.08:34
Kw4hhmm. Since KDE 4.2 ark keeps starting up when I boot up my laptop08:34
Kw4hand then it crashes :/08:34
endbossin warranty till 2012...when the world ends.08:35
mefisto__endboss: any jumpers on it?08:36
DaSkreechDaddyLonglegs: sudo sudo update-apt-xapian-index08:36
DaddyLonglegsDaSkreech: I did it, doesn't work though :(08:36
DaSkreech:-(08:37
endbossnone.08:37
yaa_taki-taki o08:38
awho know how 2 use qsopcast? it doesnt open the mplayer auto...08:38
yaa_hi daskreech08:38
athx08:38
yaa_god bless u08:38
DaSkreechhi yaa_08:38
DaSkreechThanks08:38
endbossshould i try adding a jumper/08:39
dr_Willisendboss,  Yep - may be a good idea.  mine always die after the warrentee.08:39
dr_Willisi never keep the papers either. :()08:40
endbossheh i have boxes and papers for everything...08:40
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dr_WillisI got a whole ROOM of box's and papers.. but i never know what is for what.. so i toss most of it lately08:40
dr_WillisI got a 1.5 TB external USB HD for $120 on sale a few weeks ago08:40
packratsaw a TB for 69$.08:41
packratinternal, and poor. =/08:41
DaSkreechThat's crazy08:41
packratThat's Fry's for ya.08:41
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DarkSmokeanybody is getting this errror on wine08:53
DarkSmokeerr:process:__wine_kernel_init boot event wait timed out08:53
DarkSmokeand when running winecfg somebody gets unable to comunicate with the mount manager08:54
kirani have a problem with web browsing.. I am using gprs service. i sucessfully connectrd my system to network using wvdial09:11
kiranbut cant browse through konquerer09:12
keymonehi folks! i want to install vim-full but it for some reason wants me to install vim-gnome(why?!?!) and it for some reason depends on ruby 1.8.7(WHY?!?!?!)09:14
keymoneand i cant upgrade to ruby 1.8.7 because it messes up rails application09:15
keymoneany ideas how to install vim-full without vim-gnome?09:15
kirani have a problem with web browsing.. I am using gprs service. i sucessfully connectrd my system to network using wvdial   but cant browse through konquerer09:17
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keymonekiran: what exactly is the problem? it does not resolve domain names nor it does not connect to web site?09:18
keymonetry ping google.com in terminal09:18
kirani trie ping.. it works fine.. i can get the site using www-browser09:20
kiranthe error showing is09:21
kiranAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/:09:21
kiranCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/09:21
keymonetry tracepath google.com09:21
kirani only have problem with Konqurer browser...09:23
keymonedoes firefox work?09:23
keymonemaybe you have to use some proxy?09:23
kirani dont have firefox installed.. i am now installing it..09:25
kiranbut i have problem with konquerer .. can anybody help me...09:25
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norenhi all09:33
DaddyLonglegsIs there any ways to configure kopete notifications to pop up on the bottom corner of the screen, rather than the middle top?09:34
noreneverytime i log in different set of startup programs starts up how can i control them09:34
SandGorgonquit09:35
rohdefI just upgraded a lot of kde packages and now KDM can't find KDE4, what do I do?09:38
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blueraven1I just don't know where to ask this..I have 3 partitions on one drive...one for ubuntu, one for vista, one for win 7..I can't seem to see anything on other partitions in any operating system..only in its own partition..how do I look across partitions?09:39
swedalablueraven1: mount them?09:40
rohdefblueraven1, in win you can install drivers, in Linux it depens on the ntfs used09:40
blueraven1oh, how do I mount a partition?09:40
blueraven1I mean in windows09:40
blueraven1I can I mount something that doesn't even show up?09:41
BlueEagleblueraven1: You would have to ask in #windows for that I guess.09:41
rohdefblueraven1, in windows you need the drivers, I used to use an ext2 package (ext3 is backward compatible) and use that, it had an component for the control panel09:41
BlueEagleblueraven1: To mount ext*-partitions in windows you'll need a 3rd party driver. I've had some success previously with googling for: windows ext2 driver09:42
spitfire__ext2ifs09:42
spitfire__it is called09:42
BlueEaglethankyou spitfire__.09:42
spitfire__as far as i recall09:42
BlueEaglespitfire__: that looks quite familiar.09:42
heinkel_112does anyone have bright ideas how I can mount a memory card (XD) in an O2 Micro card reader on my computer?09:43
heinkel_112it does not seem to get mounted by kubuntu automagics09:43
spitfire__heinkel_111: does it appear in lspci?09:43
blueraven1blueeagle-once I install ext2 other partitions will just appear?09:44
spitfire__The card reader09:44
heinkel_112spitfire__: yes09:44
spitfire__heinkel_111: hmmm09:44
heinkel_1120a:01.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 01)09:44
spitfire__heinkel_111: dmesg shows something, after you plug it in?09:44
heinkel_112spitfire__: not that I can see09:45
heinkel_112the last 14 lines are related to the CPU cores firing up09:45
heinkel_112before tat it is related to the wlan firing up, a long time ago09:46
spitfire__So it's not mounting problem.09:46
spitfire__hmm09:46
spitfire__and fdisk -l ?09:46
spitfire__Any sdb or sdc?09:47
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* DaddyLonglegs looks at his watch09:48
swedalawaste of time to look at your watch :P09:50
heinkel_112spitfire__: fdisk -l just give me "cannot open /dev/sda" I think this might be because my laptop hd is encrypted?09:50
spitfire__maybe09:50
heinkel_112sdb, sdc... how do I check for this?09:50
spitfire__heinkel_111: is this card readable anywhere else?09:50
spitfire__heinkel_111: sorry09:51
spitfire__sudo fdisk -l09:51
heinkel_112yes, it worked on my windows pc at work09:51
spitfire__if there is sdb or sdc it might be your card09:51
rohdefhow do I get kde4 back into kdm?09:51
heinkel_112spitfire__: I get only /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda509:52
heinkel_112I have read cards with this reader previously but maybe a different kind of cards09:53
heinkel_112could be a problem with the driver?09:53
heinkel_112I will check the memory card from my other camera09:53
* dr_Willis wakes up09:53
dr_Willissd cards on a laptop?09:53
rohdefdon't anyone know what package I have to reconfigure to get KDE4 into kdm?09:54
heinkel_112good morning dr_Willis! no, it is an XD card I am trying to read09:54
dr_Willisin a  laptop built in slot reader?09:55
spitfire__heinkel_111: how are other cards?09:55
heinkel_112dr_Willis: yes09:55
heinkel_112spitfire__: dr_Willis: I tried to insert the SD card from my other camera and it loaded right away, no problem09:56
dr_Willistheres some cases where specific built-in reader-slots dont always work..  most do work with 'sd' cards - its with other type cards it can be an issue09:56
dr_WillisIf you got a xd -> sd adaptor id try that09:56
heinkel_112don't think I have any such device09:56
dr_Willisthe built in multicard readers are often non-standard in many ways. sadly09:57
spitfire__heinkel_111: you've got an answer.09:57
dr_Willistoo many variants on the things..  Mine do NOT show up as /dev/sd##   theyare like /dev/mmc#######09:57
spitfire__Try to format it somewhere else.09:57
heinkel_112I have a pluggable usb card reader somwhere09:57
spitfire__heinkel_111: ^^09:57
spitfire__try it09:57
spitfire__it might help09:57
dr_Willisthats often the best  to use. :) a usb reader should work09:57
spitfire__For example my external sd reader works far better than built-in09:58
heinkel_112spitfire__: thanks for helping but I wouldn't want to do the the formatting before I can get the pictures I took off the card :-)09:58
spitfire__heinkel_111: right;)09:58
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* heinkel_112 finds the external usb cardreader does not support xd type cards10:08
* DS-Away is back.10:09
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tron_71hi10:11
tron_71anyone using kubuntu 8.10 with an ATI graphic card?10:12
Tm_Ttron_71: many of us10:12
Tm_TDS-Away: stop using public away10:12
tron_71and it works well for you? I mean, also 3d effects?10:12
Tm_Ttron_71: for some people it does (I don't use it myself currently)10:13
tron_71because, they seem to work, but not so performantly10:13
Tm_Ttron_71: which KDE version exactly?10:13
tron_71I read on many forums that ati cards do not work too well (not like nvidia)10:13
tron_71I'm using kde 4 that comes with kubuntu 8.1010:14
heinkel_111oops10:15
* heinkel_111 just managed to push the usb port so it fell into the computer cabinet :(10:15
Tm_Theinkel_111: remember to power off before poking in10:16
Tm_Ttron_71: ah, I'd recommend to enable backports and update10:16
heinkel_111looks like I forgot to tighten the screw that should secure it the last time I was ehh srewing up something in there10:16
Tm_Ttron_71: might, or might not, to improve10:16
tron_71Tm_T: backports from the 9 version?10:17
Tm_Ttron_71: 8.10 repositories10:17
tron_71mhh... I'm missing something: since I'm using 8.10 why enabling 8.10 backports repositories?10:18
Tm_Ttron_71: so you get stuff that are backported TO 8.10 (:10:18
tron_71OK, so backported to 8,10 from 9, right?10:18
Tm_Ttron_71: something like that yes10:18
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Tm_Ttron_71: just remember, backports are not supported by canonical10:19
tron_71OK, I'm about to try... but is it a safe choice? :)10:19
Tm_Tshould be10:20
Crusterhi, when i copy files to ntfs partitions, the files are copied, but dolphin reports: cannot change permissions for [filename]. is there any workaround?10:20
tron_71so it's just about adding10:22
tron_71deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:22
tron_71to sources.list10:22
Tm_Tyes10:22
tron_71OK, I see there's also a menu choice in synaptic10:25
tron_71but in that case, If I do it from synaptic, will sources.list be updated to?10:25
tron_71so that also adept will use them?10:25
Crustertron_71: sure10:26
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blackflag!snmp10:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about snmp10:29
tron_71ok, it looks there are lots of updates for kde4 but nothing about ati drivers though...10:29
yaa_i even do not know why do i hate all of you so much))10:30
tron_71and what about -proposed instead?10:30
tron_71is it good to have also those repositories?10:30
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yaa_hail aptitude10:41
yaa_death to yum10:41
Idzmei have installed kubuntu and ubuntu desktop, but when i log into kde I get a wallpaper of grey squares and a fullscreen folderview10:45
Idzmewere can <I acces the desktop settings to change the wallpaper??10:45
Idzmein system-settings nothing can be changed10:46
cllaudyu!swear10:48
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about swear10:48
cllaudyu!irc10:48
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines10:48
cllaudyu!guidelines10:49
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:49
Azazel_Pazuzuhi10:55
Azazel_Pazuzuwindows is shit :)10:56
dr_Willis'windows is'  - 'the zen of linux'10:56
dr_Williscomputers are, we be, :)10:56
dr_Willisapt-get install peace of mind10:57
Azazel_Pazuzudr_Willias - windows is bug ang bug :)10:57
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Tm_TAzazel_Pazuzu: please no random bashing here11:02
Azazel_PazuzuI don"t understand, Tm_T11:02
Tm_TAzazel_Pazuzu: this is channel for Kubuntu support, not ranting about Windows11:03
tron_71by the way, I found nice explainations about backports and proposed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports11:03
Azazel_PazuzuTm_T - I Hate Windows and I like Kubuntu :)11:04
Tm_TAzazel_Pazuzu: yes, but this is not the channel to tell that, sorry (:11:05
Azazel_PazuzuTm_T - ok :) I stop speak about this :)11:06
Tm_Tthank you son11:06
Tm_Tand feel free to ask if you have any support related questions (:11:06
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sheebubuHello, has anybody an idea why for some programs I see two icons (one low-res, one high-res) when I use krunner?11:09
Tm_Tsheebubu: you have two versions of that application installed?11:10
sheebubuI am not sure, its affects for example pidgin, amarok and others which have been installed using synaptic.11:11
sheebubuI suspect it might be left-over configuration files.11:11
yaa_hei nachalnik11:12
Tm_Tsheebubu: leftover .desktop files11:12
sheebubuonly see one for pidgin in /usr/share/kde411:14
Azazel_PazuzuTm_T - son? You are silly :P11:15
Tm_TAzazel_Pazuzu: silly grand(grand)mother yes (:11:15
Azazel_PazuzuTm_T - what country you are?11:16
Tm_T!ot | Azazel_Pazuzu11:16
ubottuAzazel_Pazuzu: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:16
Tm_Tmeet you there (:11:17
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senahi everyone, how are called the linux kernel build and header files11:27
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dr_WillisHmm11:30
dr_Willisi forget. :) but ive seen that befor..11:30
dr_Willis!kernel-sources11:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kernel-sources11:30
dr_Williskernel-headers I think11:31
senaanybody? in the repositories are build essentials and linux header ot smth like that but i want to download them and install them manually11:31
dr_Willis!find kernel-headers11:31
ubottuFound: linux-libc-dev11:31
Tm_T!info kernel-headers11:31
ubottuPackage kernel-headers does not exist in intrepid11:31
Tm_Tah bah11:31
senaTm_T:  : ))11:31
dr_Willis!find headers11:32
ubottuFound: libqt3-compat-headers, libqt3-headers, libxmu-headers, linux-headers-2.6.25-2-386, linux-headers-386 (and 33 others)11:32
dr_Willisaha - 'linux-headers' seems close11:32
Tm_Tindeed11:32
jussi01!info linux-headers-2.6.25-2-38611:32
ubottulinux-headers-2.6.25-2-386 (source: linux-ports): Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.25 on i386. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.25-2.3 (intrepid), package size 545 kB, installed size 6684 kB11:32
senaubottu: 10x11:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 10x11:32
senai will try that11:33
Tm_Tsena: what this 10x meant?11:33
dr_Willis!bot11:33
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fireball_hey all.11:34
fireball_I want to know where kubuntu keeps its list of installed package files, can any one help me please11:36
fireball_?11:36
dr_Willis!clone11:36
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate11:36
dr_Willis aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages11:36
dr_Williswill make a list :)11:37
dr_Willisor theres other ways to do it.11:37
fireball_i appreciate it, but there's the problem. . .11:37
fireball_the above command states zero intalled programs11:37
fireball_i've installed kde3.5 over intrepid11:38
dr_Williscould be a typo.. or it may need a sudo.  i11:38
dr_Willisim not on a ubuntu system, at the moment to test11:38
fireball_now package managers are confused11:38
Tm_Tfireball_: from where?11:38
fireball_hang on11:38
fireball_http://ppa.launchpad.net/kb9vqf/ubuntu/11:39
Tm_Tfireball_: talk to the author then (:11:39
fireball_Any more imediate ideas?11:40
senafireball_: have you tried dpkg --get-selections or dpkg --get-selections > file to write the output to a file11:40
fireball_ie, where does kubuntu normally keeps it's list?11:41
Tm_Tfireball_: sources list?11:41
Tm_Tfireball_: anyway, all mess caused by third party packages are up to user and author11:42
fireball_that gave the list of installed packages, but not all11:42
fireball_ie, keep came with kde3.5, how do i remove it?11:43
fireball_if i can nut that out, i'm in buisness11:43
Tm_Tfireball_: remove kdelibs4 package(s)11:43
fireball_found them ok11:45
fireball_this will fix the problem?11:45
fireball_yeah ok, looks like it, lets see.11:46
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fireball_E: kio-umountwrapper-kde3: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 211:48
fireball_E: knetworkconf-kde3: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 211:49
fireball_now synaptic is "trying to recover". . . .11:49
fireball_ok, it seems i can't get rid of the "un-mount wrapper". is this a problem before i reboot please?11:51
pidusi just uploade to kde 4.2 but all of my widgets stopped working on it..it now says unable to load widget for every widget that i try. Does anybody know a fix to it?11:52
pidus*upgraded11:52
fireball_yep, kde3.5, then (thanks Tm_T - - [22:43] <Tm_T> fireball_: remove kdelibs4 package(s)11:53
fireball_imean, install kde3.511:54
dr_WillisYou may want to start with clean.new kde settings pidus  (sucks i know) but  i dont know of any other fix's to try11:54
fireball_thanks Tm_T, you guys are great11:54
fish__does anybody could help me? Im a beginner and I have a problem with envy11:54
pidusdr_Willis: and i how do i do that? i mean how do i start with clean new kde settings?..take a backup of .kde and restart?11:55
dr_Willisenvy should only be used as a last resort. :)11:55
dr_Willispidus,  move the .kde* dirs somewhere like a BackupDIr.. then log back in to kde11:55
pidusdr_Willis: ok thanks..will try that11:55
dr_Willispidus, i had to do that last time i tried the upgrade stuff.. some settings were just messed up11:55
fireball_just a a thought, i use Simple Backup to backup to my (i hate to say it) NTFS drive, then if all else fails, I'm always sweet11:56
pidusdr_Willis: as i think of it, the same thing happened with me when i moved from 3.5 to 4.111:56
pidusdr_Willis: thanks..i'll try that11:56
dr_Willispidus,  yep.  had similer issues with gnome and other upgrades as well11:56
fireball_ciao all11:56
dr_Willisplus its always nice to see what 'defaults' the devs decided we need11:56
pidusdr_Willis: yeah that's true11:57
fish__I was trying to install drivers of my ge force 8600 gt, I have downloaded drivers from nvidia site but after installation I couldn't run X server I had an error like "no screens found" so I thought I can do it by envy11:59
tr_hawkHowdy!11:59
fish__and I have installed envy-core and qt but it won't start11:59
Tm_T!nvidia | fish__11:59
ubottufish__: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:59
fish__ok thanks12:00
fish__Once I did install by Hardware Drivers and it crashed too >.<12:02
dr_Willisfor my Nvidia cards. I just let the jockey-kde app handle the drivers12:03
pidusdr_Willis: it didn't help :-(12:03
dr_Willis!find jockey12:03
ubottuFound: jockey-common, jockey-gtk, jockey-kde12:03
pidushaving upgraded to 4.2, is there a way to revert back to 4.1?12:08
fish__ok I will try do it by jockey once again, if it crashed how may I return to the previous settings and run xserver again?12:09
fish__I was always reinstalling ubuntu ^^12:09
dr_Willisyou could learn some linux basics. :)12:09
dr_Willisremove the xorg.conf file.. and restart X and it should try to pick sane defaults12:09
devilsadvocatepidus, any specific reason?12:09
dr_Willisreinstalling is 'windows' thinking12:09
devilsadvocatepidus, ah, widgets12:10
pidusdevilsadvocate: having moved to 4.2, widgets don't seem to work any more.12:10
pidusdevilsadvocate: yes.12:10
fish__ok ^^ I was using windows for many years so yeah im thinking in windows way ^^12:10
fish__I need some time :P12:11
devilsadvocatepidus, widgets as in plasma stuff? does the panel and menu atleast work?12:11
pidusdevilsadvocate: yes widgets as in plasma stuff..and yes panel and menu work12:12
Laeborghow can i get my computer to disable the mic in my monitor (build-in mic in my laptop) and use the mic in my headphones insdead?12:12
devilsadvocatepidus, then most probably its some stale lock/ setting/ some silly thing like that. perhaps there is a way to reset all the settings to initial ones... yu could try making a new user and seeing if things work there12:13
pidusi tried doing that, taking a backup of settings of .kde and starting afresh12:13
pidusbut it didn't help12:13
devilsadvocatei dont know if everything is in .kde. akonadi, for example has stuff in ~/.local12:14
pidusdevilsadvocate: i asked somebody at #kde and i was told "sounds like you plasmoids aren't compiled against your version of plasma"12:14
Laeborg!alsa12:14
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP312:14
pidusdevilsadvocate: and when i was asked for a fix to it, i was told " either someone must provide you with working packages, or you must compile them yourself"12:15
devilsadvocatepidus, strange. did your upgrade complete successfully12:15
pidusdevilsadvocate: now that's a tall order...for i have little time to do that for now12:15
pidusdevilsadvocate: yes12:15
devilsadvocatepidus, kubuntu´s packages work. is the issue with some specific widget.. possibly one that was missed?12:15
pidusdevilsadvocate: i tried - minimise window/dashboard/comic/dictionary.....none of them worked12:16
devilsadvocatehmm12:16
pidusdevilsadvocate: should i try doing the same thing with .local12:17
pidusdevilsadvocate: are you on 4.2?12:17
devilsadvocatetbh, i dont know whats in universe and main. ive been using kde-experimental and have had the smoothest upgrades i´ve had on linux ever12:17
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devilsadvocatepidus, dont remove .local. i dont know what else it has. instead, add a new user (assuming its your computer) and see. if it works, then you can work backwards12:17
pidusdevilsadvocate: ok..i'll try doing it...but have you tried kde 4.2 on kubuntu? and if yes..did the widgets work for you?12:18
devilsadvocatepidus, yes, and they work. but the repo i have been using is _not_ universe12:19
devilsadvocatemy kde packages come from the kubuntu ppa which has kde-experimental, the packages which should reach main/universe eventually. it worked fine in the early days of 4.2 as well12:20
Tm_Tdevilsadvocate: not main/universe but backports, already there12:20
devilsadvocatepidus, backports , it seems12:21
pidusi have backports enabled for updates, though universe is also enabled12:21
devilsadvocatepidus, it will get from backports if both are enabled. it basically gets the latest available12:22
devilsadvocatethanks Tm_T12:22
Tm_Tnp12:22
pidusdevilsadvocate: ok i'll try creating a new user and see what happens...thanks for the suggestion12:22
devilsadvocatenp12:23
pidusdevilsadvocate: i tried creating new user and doing it but the same prob12:34
pidusso, is there a way to revert to 4.1?12:34
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santoshhi12:44
max9hi guys12:45
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ShuraHi ! I have a question : I tried to set my TV as a second monitor, worked fine but I don't really need it so I remove my TV. It has created a second activity corresponding to my second monitor, but now I don't have it anymore, but I can't delete the second activity. How can I delete this activity I don't need anymore ?12:53
dr_Willissecond activity?12:57
Shura(Yeah I'm not very clear)12:59
Shurahttp://shurafr.free.fr/capt008.png12:59
ShuraI want to remove the the right one, but I can't13:00
mikkochi, i've just installed jaunty with kde4. The problem is that the desktop won't load13:02
mikkoci tried removing the plasma configuration files, but no luck13:02
mikkocbasically i can see the splash screen, and when it's finished only the background remains13:03
mikkocany help?13:05
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StR|Sangrealhi i have a flesh problem with my boot13:39
StR|Sangrealkubuntu usually boots without seing tty13:39
StR|Sangrealtty prompt13:39
StR|Sangrealbut my bootscreen interrupts and after having waited for a certain period13:39
StR|Sangrealit claims that boot files are not the same as backup files and that it wont fix it by itself... thats all, after that it continues ordinarily13:40
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bartskde2my phone won't show up in kdebluetooth, works in gnome any ideas?13:48
zgmf-x20ahey all, having an issue in evolution, why do all my rss feeds no longer have a window underneath so i can see the material in the feed???13:49
bartskde2never mind. saw that the developers are working on getting it fixed. just need to use gnome with my phone for now.13:53
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norenmmmhi all14:16
norenmmmis there a good data recovery which i ccan run in kubuntu to get back data from ext3 portion of my harddisk14:16
bazhang!recover | norenmmm14:17
ubottunorenmmm: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel14:17
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ryanakcaThere, much better :)14:21
bazhanghehe much :)14:21
casimodohello14:25
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Cuppermaybe this is better place to ask :) how do i enable opengl support with nvidia drivers?14:26
casimodoc'est ma première fois d'utiliser cette application, pouvez vous me renseigner sur son utilité ?14:26
bazhang!fr14:27
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr14:27
joergHi14:32
raven244hi14:33
akventurei've got a question14:33
tuxiakventure, just ask14:33
akventurethere's a folder on my desktop that i can't seem to find...14:33
akventurei want to delete it... it has 1.9gb of files in it14:34
tuxihave you emptied the trash?14:34
akventurewhen i go to save new downloads i can see the folder on the desktop and navigate into it and its subfolders....14:34
akventurebut it's not visible in any of my workspaces14:34
akventurei have emptied the trash14:35
tuxihave you opened Dolphin and navigated to the Desktop folder?14:35
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akventurei'm actually using ubuntu hardy heron... not kubuntu14:35
akventurei'm nof familiar w/dolphin14:35
akventure*not14:36
tuxiOK, then open nautilus and navigate to ~/Desktop14:36
tuxior open a terminal and "cd ~/Desktop"14:36
sanyhi14:36
tuxicheck the path you're saving downloads to in firefox14:38
tuxiakventure, can you post the screenshot somewhere?14:42
bazhang!imagebin14:43
ubottuWant to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add and link it from the channel.14:43
tuxibazhang, ty14:44
* tuxi is new to this channel14:44
bazhangthats a new factoid :)14:44
tuxi'tis indeed14:44
StR|Sangrealpls i want to install spacer plasmoid from source code located in following directory /home/vladislav/Pracovná plocha/Actualities/SW/widgets/Panelspacer_from_svn_pour_kdelook-tmp14:45
StR|Sangrealwhat are the commands pls?14:45
bazhangStR|Sangreal, what plasmoid14:45
StR|Sangrealspacer is a plasmoid to add separators to your panels andor docks14:45
StR|Sangrealbut its irrelevent, i cannot install from source, pls how is that done?14:46
tuxiStR|Sangreal, I assume you're wanting the installation commands -- is there a README or INSTALL file in the tar?14:46
bazhangStR|Sangreal, its not irrelevant if you want assistance14:46
StR|Sangrealsorry...14:47
tuxiakventure, Unix/Linux is case sensitive -- try "cd ~/Desktop"14:47
bazhang4.1 or 4.214:47
StR|Sangreali need the commands since my knowledge level is yet stuck on more or less mouse commands14:48
bazhangmore info such as version of kde4, link to plasmoid, etc would be helpful14:48
tuxiakventure, then "ls" (for list) and look for the directory14:49
tuxithat is the one you want to delete14:49
StR|Sangrealaha14:49
StR|Sangrealkde42, kernel.28.12, notebook centrino1 duo, amd64 kubuntu intrepid ibex14:49
SiPuliHello, how can i get opengl support for nvidia?14:50
StR|Sangrealhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=89304&forumpage=1&PHPSESSID=cae14:50
SiPuli?14:54
tuxiSiPuli, what kind of support?  Do you have the proprietary kernel module enabled?14:55
SiPuliI mean, when i try to run one game, it says "No OpenGL enabled""14:57
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tuxiSiPuli, you probably aren't running the proprietary kernel module14:58
SiPulimeans?14:58
SiPulierr:wgl:has_opengl OpenGL support is disabled.14:59
SiPulithis is error i get14:59
tuxion the traditional menu go to System/Hardware Drivers -- this should show you what proprietary drivers you can use14:59
SiPulinow i get it, im running nvidia beta drivers cause they work better :/15:00
SiPuliso, in order to play i have to use those drivers?15:00
tuximaybe not, try "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and tell me if there is a Section "Module" which has Load "glx" in it15:00
SiPuliYes there is15:02
tuxiOK15:03
tuxido you have nvidia-settings installed ?15:04
SiPuliyes15:04
tuxisee if there is an enable glx in that15:06
tuxiI'm working at an ati machine atm but I can look at my nvidia machine when necessary15:07
SiPulicant find it15:08
draik_How do I use unrar on an archive?15:09
SiPuliunrar e archive.rar15:10
tuxiSiPuli, I've run out of ideas15:11
draik_Does it have to be rar?15:11
draik_The archive is *.7z15:11
SiPulituxi, there is that OpenGL settings, but it has only Enable Flipping and Sync VBlank15:11
bazhang!7zip15:11
ubottuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression15:11
draik_Ark wouldn't open it :( Said nothing inside or nothing to extract.15:12
SiPuliis it possible to add mode "opengl" to xorg.conf?15:12
el-perrilloHas anybody been able to connect trough a VPN using Ubuntu?15:12
el-perrilloor kubuntu15:12
draik_Thanks SiPuli. Got it :)15:14
tuxiSiPuli, I've pasted my laptop's xorg.conf at http://paste.ubuntu.com/121440/15:16
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SiPulihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/121441/ here's mine, i hope you can find something out of ordinary15:19
tuxiel-perrillo, I haven't tried a VPN in a while (maybe a few versions back)15:21
tuxiSiPuli, I find it interesting that I have no Module section in my xorg.conf but I still have OpenGL working on the laptop15:25
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Assurbanipalhi guys,how can i set file/folder/prinrter sharing in kde 4,2? i run kubuntu 8,1015:31
SiPulituxi: i found something from error log: err:wgl:has_opengl Failed to load libGL: libGL.so.1: jaettua objektitiedostoa ei voi avata: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole15:43
SiPulibasically it says that there is no such file. And there is15:43
SiPuliand i just realized that this is wine problem, not kubuntu :)15:44
tuliohmhello everybody, im with kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.1.4 on my laptop15:47
tuliohmand i want to know if the 4.2 release of kde is really stable15:48
tuliohmsomeone is using it?15:48
fuzzyguys i need help, i have just installed a kde and my desktop are in the window i want to make it default like on the gnome15:49
tuliohmfuzzy, my desktop are in the window?15:49
mofuxtuliohm: i'm using it and 4.2 for me seems to be much more stable then 4.1.2 at least (never tried 4.1.4 though)15:49
BoomKINGCan anyone help me , if i install ubuntu The wireless and cabled network works , but then if i restart it stops working , but if i put in the live cd and boot with live mode it works ???? any ideas15:50
BoomKINGkubuntu*15:50
tuliohmmofux, hmm, i ll try 4.215:50
fuzzytuliohm: yes, the desktop are in the widget called "Folder View" i want to make it normal15:50
mofuxyes, give it a try, it rockz15:50
StR|Sangrealpls an urgent case...15:50
tuliohmmofux, im having a problem with hotkeys on kde415:50
tuliohmyou have this problem?15:50
tuliohm:X15:50
mofuxthink some of these were fixed in 4.215:50
mofuxi can use "print" again to make a screenshot f.e.15:50
fuzzyany help?15:51
StR|Sangreali have been changing themes and suddenly desktop effects, optacity, switch window...15:51
tuliohmfuzzy, i dont think kde 4 have a normal desktop, but i cant affirm15:51
StR|Sangrealthey disappeared15:51
mofuxfuzzy, you can set a folderview as your background15:51
mofuxthen point it to your desktop folder15:51
mofux/home/fuzzy/Desktop or something15:51
tuliohm~/Desktop :)15:52
mofuxright ;)15:52
mofuxyou can set the background as folderviwe (in 4.2. this is) in the appereance settings (right click menu on the desktop)15:52
mofuxthere is a combobox "Type:"15:53
mofuxchoose folderview there15:53
BoomKINGCan anyone help me , if i install ubuntu The wireless and cabled network works , but then if i restart it stops working , but if i put in the live cd and boot with live mode it works ???? any ide15:54
BoomKINGides*15:54
fuzzymofux: in the type are only Image, Slideshow and color15:54
mofuxfuzzy: there are 2 comboxes15:54
mofuxboth titled "type"15:55
mofuxin the upper one you should be able to set the folderview15:55
fuzzymofux: yes yes, ive found it15:55
mofuxwhat version of kde are you running?15:55
mofuxfuzzy, ok cool15:55
mofuxis it doing what you want? :P15:55
fuzzymofux: ty a bounch15:56
mofuxfuzzy: np15:56
fuzzymofux: yes ... thanks bro15:56
ReiKnHello! Just came to ask from kde 4.2 users about boot times... it takes me one minute from the login until the desktop is usable, wondering if it's just something wrong with my setup or something usual...15:57
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Fonixhas any1 had a problem where, after a clean install of kubuntu 8.10, the wireless and lan works fine, then after first restart, doesnt work anymore? and know how to fix?15:58
tuxiReiKn, what do you have starting up?  My startup times seem to be less although I haven't timed them15:59
Fonixhas any1 had a problem where, after a clean install of kubuntu 8.10, the wireless and lan works fine, then after first restart, doesnt work anymore? and know how to fix? worked fine in 7.10 with gnome.16:03
tuxiFonix, which network adapter(s) do you have?16:03
Fonixwlan0 eth0 and pan016:03
Fonixdunno what pan0 is16:03
Fonixmy ethernet is a broadcom BCM5787M16:05
Fonixand wlan is intel PRO/wireless 3945ABG16:05
Fonixon a extensa 5620G laptop16:05
tuxiwlan should be no problem, that's what's on my laptop16:05
tuxinor should the wired ethernet adapter16:06
Fonixye i have no idea why it doesnt work16:06
Fonixworked on 7.1016:06
Fonixand now it doesnt work on 8.10 :/16:06
Fonixit works also if im booted off the live cd16:07
tuxiI'm at a loss -- is Network Manager running?16:07
Fonixyes16:07
ReiKntuxi: your question made me check also for the plasmoids, and when i took the analog clock and the photo showing plasmoids away, it reduced the login to 25 secs. I think this is usable already.16:07
Fonixits as if it cant find the wireless switch anymore16:07
Fonixcuz i made the connection on the first boot after install, but now it cant find any wireless lans when i go look for networks16:08
Fonixbut i stil have the connection i made, its just not connected16:08
tuxithere is no "Enable WIreless" when you right click on the nm-applet in the system tray?16:08
Fonixno only disabled wireless16:09
rohanhi.. could someone help me with this problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107727316:09
tuxiReiKn, you'll just have to decide which plasmoids you really want16:09
Fonixas in its already active16:09
rohanbasically on ubuntu 8.04.2 my splash screen stops too early16:09
tuxirohan, I prefer the behavior I think you're describing16:10
rohantuxi: to not have a splash screen?16:11
tuxiyou'll need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but I don't recall the commands to add to the kernel line16:12
tuxiI hate hiding the actions which go on with a splash screen16:13
rohanif so, you can just remove the word "splash" from your kernel line in menu.lst16:13
tuxiis splash still present in your kernel list?  There's also a quiet switch16:14
rohanyes, both are present16:14
tuxihmm16:14
tuxiand it's on the kernel you are booting?16:15
rohanyes16:15
shadeslayeryaay16:17
shadeslayeri fixed my linux KDE16:17
shadeslayer:P16:17
DaSkreech\o/16:18
shadeslayerDaSkreech: i lost KDE due to adept grrrrr...........16:19
rohanshadeslayer: what was the problem?16:19
DaSkreechshadeslayer: You have irssi ?16:19
shadeslayerhad16:19
shadeslayerrohan: i hate you please do not talk to me16:19
tuxirohan, I'm at a loss16:19
rohantuxi: me too :(16:19
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bostiihi to all16:20
shadeslayerDaSkreech: why??16:20
DaSkreechshadeslayer: If you lose the GUI again you can jump in here for help16:20
DaSkreechLots of people lose the GUI and freak out16:20
shadeslayerright now i have 80 MB of updates :O16:20
draik_DaSkreech: Hello. I'm still working on that recovery. I hope to have it all back in the next 3 days.16:20
shadeslayerDaSkreech: hehe,im one of them16:20
shadeslayerDaSkreech: i had to install kubuntu-desktop16:21
shadeslayer:P, stupid adept removed iot16:21
shadeslayer*it16:21
DaSkreechdraik_: Where is it now?16:21
* tuxi can use irssi but prefers the gui16:21
* shadeslayer agrees with tuxi16:21
draik_shadeslayer: Ditto. I had to reinstall kde-window-manager16:22
Exilantirssi is a gui16:22
shadeslayerhahaha16:22
shadeslayerwhat a joke16:22
shadeslayerExilant: irssi is certainly no GUI16:22
draik_DaSkreech: Stellar Phoenix crashed overnight so I started over and is currently going 4.52GB at a very small percentage (I'm doing raw recovery still)16:23
DaSkreechirssi is a ui16:23
Exilantit most certainly is. it has colours and stuff.16:23
shadeslayerdraik_: are you the guy who didnt have kde in the login manager??16:23
DaSkreechdraik_: Please tell me it has a skip option16:23
shadeslayerah in that respect16:23
DaSkreechExilant: That's not what makes a GUI :)16:23
draik_DaSkreech: Recover Data for Linux is still going and is currently at 27%. It's about 25% per 12 hours.16:23
draik_shadeslayer: I've had many issues. Not with the login necessarily, just issues with the usage (no borders and keyboard was essential shot)16:24
shadeslayerwell,someone else had the same problem earlier16:24
draik_DaSkreech: No, I don't believe I saw one.16:24
shadeslayerBTW can i install GNOME alongside KDE??16:24
Exilantok, i stand corrected. apparently gui really has to be more than just formatted text16:24
draik_shadeslayer: Yes. You can install as many WM's as you wish.16:25
shadeslayeroh good16:25
shadeslayerso sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop??16:25
DaSkreechdraik_: Awww so it found things which were backed up already with the same time stamp and still copied and overwrote them?16:25
draik_shadeslayer: I have KDE, Gnome and Openbox16:25
shadeslayercool16:25
shadeslayerso that command will work right??16:25
draik_DaSkreech: It never did the backup. This is just finding things still. I've very impressed with Stellar Phoenix Linux Data Recover v3.016:26
DaSkreechshadeslayer: yes16:26
Exilantshould work. you'll get more than just gnome, thogh.16:26
shadeslayerok,GNOME here i come16:26
shadeslayerExilant: how come??16:26
draik_The only issue I have on this laptop now is no audio :(16:26
DaSkreechdraik_: Oh.. I thought that it was backing up as it was going along. So it's still possible that the physical hard drive can have issues with the copy16:26
shadeslayerdraik_: its probably set on lo16:26
shadeslayer*low16:27
Exilantubuntu-desktop will also get you several gnome apps16:27
shadeslayeroh thats no problem16:27
draik_DaSkreech: Maybe. Time will tell, but I have to leave for work in less than 3 hours.16:27
draik_shadeslayer: Nope. Amarok won't play because no audio drivers are in place.16:27
shadeslayerwhats the name of volume manager in kubuntu??16:27
shadeslayeroh16:27
draik_kmix16:27
shadeslayerhmm its not running through konsole16:28
shadeslayerhaha,im having the same problem with audio drivers now16:29
shadeslayeramarok wont play files16:29
shadeslayerany bright ideas draik_16:30
shadeslayer??16:30
draik_Make sure the audio isn't on low ;P16:30
shadeslayer:)16:31
shadeslayerwell no drivers16:31
shadeslayerkmix is crashing without a backtrace16:31
draik_ditto with kmix16:31
shadeslayer:)16:31
shadeslayerim never listening to adept again16:32
shadeslayernever ever16:32
shadeslayer!audio16:33
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:33
linexhello16:34
shadeslayerno sound system16:34
linexI'm fairly new to ubuntu/kubuntu , been using gentoo for 7 years now.16:34
DaSkreechlinex: Welcome to Binary land!16:34
linexSo kubuntu has a release every april and and every October, is this right ?16:35
shadeslayer:)16:35
shadeslayeryes16:35
rohanlinex: normally, yes16:35
DaSkreechYes16:35
shadeslayerdevelopment cycle is 6 months i believe16:35
rohanlinex: but for example, one release was delayed from april to june16:35
linexDaSkreech: thank you. I will have one feet in source land and another in binary land for the time being.16:35
shadeslayerhehe16:36
DaSkreechGood way to expand your knowledge16:36
shadeslayernone of the links above open :(16:36
shadeslayer!drivers16:37
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers16:37
shadeslayer:|16:37
shadeslayerDaSkreech: any idea if i can seprately install audio drivers16:37
DaSkreechhmm ?16:38
heinkel_vistashadeslayer: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart16:38
shadeslayerright now i have no audio drivers16:38
heinkel_vistaoh did I get that right? DaSkreech?16:38
heinkel_vistaI am windows right now16:38
shadeslayer:D16:38
heinkel_vistathe way to restart the audio drivers16:38
shadeslayerplease dont get my lappy screwed all over again16:38
DaSkreechheinkel_vista: Yes that's right16:39
shadeslayerheinkel_vista: i have no drivers :P16:39
rohanand that doesn't "restart" your drivers, it just reinitializes some alsa stuff16:39
DaSkreechshadeslayer: Don't be afraid of breaking your machine It's pretty hard to break Linux to the point where you can't fix it16:39
shadeslayer:)16:39
rohanto actually "Restart" the drivers, you'd need to rmmod and modprobe the modules16:39
shadeslayerwell no GUI to me is broke,;)16:40
DaSkreechget comfortable with the system enough where you can fix stuff then set it up so you never have to16:40
heinkel_vistaok I did the reboot thing yesterday...worked16:40
heinkel_vistaI got the same strange message that there were no drivers for audio on my laptoip16:40
shadeslayeryeah,i got the same thing right now16:41
DaSkreechheinkel_vista: Did you indeed have no audio ?16:41
heinkel_vistayes, I have no idea why, it just sort of randomly happened yesterday16:41
shadeslayerheinkel_vista: i just reinstalled kubuntu-desktop and i recieved the notification on login16:42
heinkel_vistaI was trying to do something in lmms but the application popped up with dummy 8no audio) driver16:42
heinkel_vistaI think there may be a problem on the startup sequence, maybe afecting laptops for some reason16:42
heinkel_vistashadeslayer: what kind of laptop do you have? I have an intel-based toshiba16:43
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo16:43
shadeslayerXPS M1530,with all the bells and whistles16:43
shadeslayerDell btw16:43
heinkel_vistai know, never tried dell with linux unfortunately16:43
shadeslayerworks great16:44
tuximy laptop is a 1505N which came with Ubuntu (32-bit) preloaded16:44
shadeslayergreat,i wanted my XPS to have Kubuntu,had to install it myself16:45
tuxiI repartitioned the disk and installed 64-bit Ubuntu within a couple of days and added KDE later16:45
draik_shadeslayer: I'm on a Dell too. Smartstep 250N.16:45
shadeslayerdraik_: never heard of it16:45
shadeslayerSmartstep hmmmmmmmm16:46
tuxiDell did the M$ thing and had only one partition for the OS and /me *hugs* br3nome16:46
shadeslayer:)16:46
shadeslayertuxi: they stopped building your lappy right16:46
draik_shadeslayer: very short-lived model. It was given to me when the original owner thought their windows stuff was all gone.16:47
shadeslayerhehe16:47
tuxiI think it's been superseded16:47
draik_'I lost everything and bought a new laptop. You can have this one (Smartstep 250N) for your own use or strip it for parts. I don't care'16:48
shadeslayer:)16:48
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shadeslayerany idea about my problem16:50
shadeslayer??16:50
shadeslayerdont ask16:50
Tm_Tshadeslayer: try not to spread your sayings to multiple lines16:51
shadeslayerhuh??16:51
shadeslayeroh that16:51
draik_DaSkreech: If my calculations are correct, I am just above 1.5% completion and it has found 7.75GB16:55
DaSkreechshadeslayer: what audio card?16:57
shadeslayerill check16:57
shadeslayerHDA intel16:57
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DaSkreech!hda16:57
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about hda16:57
shadeslayerHDA intel STAC92XX analog16:57
DaSkreech!intelhda16:58
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto16:58
shadeslayerooh16:58
draik_shadeslayer: I have an Intel 82801BA-ICH216:58
shadeslayerdoes not open16:58
shadeslayer:)16:58
JackWinterhow do i install the latest closed nvidia driver on kubuntu 8.04 ?16:59
shadeslayerJackWinter: K>apps>settings>hardware drivers16:59
draik_My FF is still trying to load that page. Awkward16:59
shadeslayer*system16:59
shadeslayerdraik_: hehe it wont open16:59
DaSkreechgrrr I think the wiki is down17:01
shadeslayer:(17:01
jussi01DaSkreech: looks that way17:01
draik_shadeslayer: I went to http://help.ubuntu.com and searched for 'intel audio' and it shows upin the results. Clicking on it, however, will tell you the page no longer exists.17:01
shadeslayerwiki down :(17:01
draik_Oh17:01
draik_how conveniently inconvenient.17:02
shadeslayerhehe17:02
shadeslayerbtw is utorrent available for linux??17:02
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: no, but there are a million torrent clients17:03
tuxiI find ktorrent to be a good client17:03
ActionParsnip1!torrents17:03
ubottuKubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) torrents can be obtained at http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 3.5.9) or http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 4.0.3)17:03
ActionParsnip1!torrent17:03
ubottuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P17:03
shadeslayerna ive grown used to utorrent17:03
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heartsutorrent rocks.17:03
shadeslayeryeah17:03
shadeslayersimple,light,speedy17:03
heartsyup17:03
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: it runs via wine but its gonna be a memory bloat17:03
heartsa lot of options also17:03
shadeslayer:)17:03
heartsyou could even tab your dls17:04
hearts=P17:04
shadeslayeryup17:04
ActionParsnip1i use ktorrent as it has a web interface which is BADASS17:04
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: urgh,wine,ewww17:04
heartsbittorrent gets messed up on vista x6417:04
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: yep, exactly. try opening your mind to another client17:04
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: theres a lot to try17:04
heartsso i got utorrent ;even though its the same thing17:04
heartsutorrent doesnt give me any problems17:05
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: i use wine only for counter strike,that too only once17:05
shadeslayerbtw im starting a LUG in my college17:05
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: i use it for dukenukem :D17:06
draik_!akondai17:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about akondai17:06
draik_!akonadi17:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about akonadi17:06
shadeslayer:O17:06
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: and my course needs it too17:06
draik_!info akonadi17:06
ubottuPackage akonadi does not exist in intrepid17:06
ActionParsnip1!find akon17:06
ubottuFound: akonadi-dbg, akonadi-server, libakonadi-dev, libakonadiprivate1, diakonos (and 1 others)17:06
draik_What is akonadi? I have it in my System Settings under the Advanced tab17:06
ActionParsnip1!info akondi-server17:06
ubottuPackage akondi-server does not exist in intrepid17:06
shadeslayerhehe17:07
giarcaakonadi-kde :)17:07
ActionParsnip1!info akonadi-server17:07
ubottuakonadi-server (source: akonadi): Akonadi PIM storage service. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu5 (intrepid), package size 3129 kB, installed size 7584 kB17:07
heartscan anyone tell me17:07
giarcaabou akonadi anyone using mailody mail client?17:07
heartswhats the point of running mac os x17:07
shadeslayer30 min for completing updates17:07
shadeslayerhearts: gloss??17:08
giarcais it a good software compared to kamil?17:08
heartsthe ui? lol17:08
shadeslayer:D17:08
ActionParsnip1hearts: no idea, its against the license to run mac OS on non mac hardware17:08
draik_hearts: Well, a co-worker told me that OS X has terminal, but in no form does Apple ever really want you using it as they try to simplify it all to one click on the GUI.17:08
shadeslayerwell i lcan easily say give kubuntu another 3 years and itll rival OS X in gloss17:08
heartsno its not.17:09
heartsLOL17:09
draik_ActionParsnip1: Is it really?17:09
ActionParsnip1draik_: yes, its not allowed17:09
shadeslayeragainst EULA17:09
draik_That's just lovely17:09
heartsits illegal to run it on a non-mac non-LABELED computer17:09
ActionParsnip1gloss == LAME17:09
heartsso you get a mac sticker17:09
shadeslayeri have a torrent for it17:09
heartsand you're good.17:09
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draik_shadeslayer: Torrent for what?17:09
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: thats illegal piracy then17:09
shadeslayerfor OS X17:09
heartsi use17:10
shadeslayeri didnt download it though17:10
heartspearpc17:10
heartsLOL17:10
draik_So did I. They are not good. One didn't boot in Virtualbox, another wasn't even meant to be bootable, etc.17:10
heartsmac has no laws against virtualization17:10
shadeslayeras soon as i discovered it was against EULA i dropped the idea17:10
heartsmac os x will not run on virtualbox.17:10
shadeslayerreally??17:11
draik_Really?17:11
shadeslayerlol17:11
giarcaIf I want to test mailody I should installa mailody package or mailody-kde4?17:11
heartsi use pearpc17:11
draik_That's really lame. Why not?17:11
shadeslayer!mailody17:11
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mailody17:11
heartssome people have done it on vmware17:11
heartsi myself use pearpc17:11
heartsi have mac os x17:12
heartsbut17:12
DaSkreechshadeslayer: You can run Darwin17:12
heartsi dont know what i could do on it? lol17:12
shadeslayerdarwin?? whats that??17:12
DaSkreechhearts: parallels and Vmware can virtualize macOSX I think17:12
DaSkreech!info mailody17:13
ubottumailody (source: mailody): fast IMAP mail user agent for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-4 (intrepid), package size 388 kB, installed size 1400 kB17:13
heartsyeah17:13
heartsi know vmware could17:13
heartsbut i doubt it about virtualbox17:13
heartsim using virtualbox right now ;]17:13
giarcaDarkriftX: ok, but the difference about installing only mailody or maildoy and mailody-kde4?17:13
draik_If VMware can create the image, then it can be ported to VirtualBox, right?17:14
DaSkreechgiarca: Mailody is a IMAP only mail client made cause Kmail hadreally bad IMAP and the authour wanted a project. I would expect over the next year all the code from mailody will be merged into Kmail. But it's quite fast17:14
heartsnope17:14
heartsi dont think so17:14
DaSkreechhearts: it can't you have to license the firmware DRM from apple17:14
giarcaDaSkreech: so I can install only mailody packages17:14
DaSkreechwhich of course Vbox won't do17:14
giarcabecause mailody-kde4 is aplha project in my repo17:14
DaSkreechgiarca: Sure it's a Qt app then17:14
heartsive seen screenshots of it on vmware17:14
heartsand read that its not possible on virtualbox17:15
heartsnever seen a screenshot of mac on virtualbox17:15
hearts:/17:15
giarcaok thanks17:15
draik_I was really looking forward to using OS X on VirtualBox17:15
trevorHey im having a couple problems with my new install, can anyone help17:15
heartsyou could use pearpc17:15
draik_!ask | trevor17:15
ubottutrevor: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:15
shadeslayertrevor: sure thing17:16
draik_Wrong one.17:16
shadeslayer:)17:16
shadeslayerdraik_: leave it,dont hassle him17:16
draik_trevor: Your request for help is vague. What is the issue?17:16
shadeslayer:)17:16
jussi01Hrm, seems my swap is not recognised/activated. anyone tell me how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/121487/17:16
shadeslayer:O17:16
draik_shadeslayer: I'm willing to help, if I can, but only once the issue is known.17:16
shadeslayerjussi01: youre asking for help17:17
shadeslayerdraik_: you sound like a bot :P17:17
trevorok, i accidentally deleted my network applet off the task bar on the bottom right, and i cant figure out how to get it back, also, when i go to internet and then knetworkmanager it doesnt come uip when i click it17:17
draik_shadeslayer: LOL17:17
heartshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=channel_page&hl=en&v=44XlL2lWOSY17:17
shadeslayertrevor: thatll be in the widgets17:17
trevoralso, my new kubuntuinstall seems to be running incredibly hot on my laptop17:17
hearts^thats me runing mac windows and linux17:17
shadeslayertrevor: which laptop??17:18
trevorwhen i click on the network widget it comes up as four boxes17:18
trevorit is a toshiba sattelite17:18
jussi01hearts: wrong place. please use #kubuntu-offtopic17:18
ActionParsnip1jussi01 wapon /dev/<whatever>17:18
heartshow is that offtopic.17:18
ActionParsnip1swapon /dev/<?>17:18
trevorit has 4gb of ram, 2.0 dual core amd processor, 250gb hd17:18
kurehi where can i get audio drivers for kubuntu??17:18
trevor80gb is used for kubuntu17:18
draik_hearts: I hope you're not talking on there cuz I have no audio drivers :(17:19
shadeslayertrevor: change the power managing policy dynamic17:19
heartsno17:19
ActionParsnip1kure: run lspci and one line will identify your sound card, you can then websearch from that17:19
shadeslayerkure: get in the line :P17:19
shadeslayerdraik_: see that??17:19
kurehow?17:19
kureim big noob :)17:19
shadeslayerkure: konsole?/17:19
kurey17:19
shadeslayerAlt+F217:19
kurenext step17:19
kurei have kubuntu 1 hour17:19
draik_!enter | kure17:20
ubottukure: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:20
trevorwhere is the policy management option17:20
ActionParsnip1kure: its a konsole command17:20
shadeslayertype lspci17:20
DaSkreechWelcome to Linux and Kubuntu kure17:20
kurelspci??17:20
vltHello. I've installed Kubuntu 8.04 LTS. How can I import an old .wab address book (from Microsoft Outlook Express) into K-Mail?17:20
kureonly lspci?17:20
DaSkreechtrevor: Which policy ?17:20
shadeslayertrevor: in the system taskbar widget17:20
shadeslayersame place as windows17:20
DaSkreechvlt: export it from Outlook as vcards or csv17:20
shadeslayer:P17:20
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draik_shadeslayer: Do you happen to have the same one?   Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller17:20
DaSkreechcsv is highly prefered since it makes life much less painful for you17:20
shadeslayernope17:21
trevorok, i have that working17:21
trevornow, whenever i click on a link in irc itbrings it up in thunderbird17:21
kurenothing hapen17:21
trevorhow can i change that17:21
shadeslayerHDA intel STAC92XX analog17:21
kuremaybe it because i updating now17:21
vltDaSkreech: I don't have Outlook running on my kubuntu machine ;-)17:21
shadeslayertrevor: how about changing the default browser to lonqueror17:21
shadeslayer*konqueror17:22
draik_kure: Open a new tab in konsole or a new konsole window and type 'lspci' to find your audio driver.17:22
ActionParsnip1jussi01: did the command work?17:22
kureok i did it17:22
kurebut i dont see any audio drivers17:22
shadeslayer00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)17:22
shadeslayerlike that ^^17:22
draik_trevor: K menu > Computer > System Settings > Default Applications17:22
ActionParsnip1kure: running that command wont give you drivers17:23
kureis some command like apt-get audio driver ??17:23
draik_trevor: Make sure you have a browser for the default browser rather than Thunderbird.17:23
ActionParsnip1kure: it will identify the card for you so you can find out how to set it up17:23
Guest63595sup17:23
shadeslayer:)17:23
heartssudo apt-get a life17:23
heartslol just kidding17:23
shadeslayerhahaha17:23
draik_LOL17:23
shadeslayernice one17:23
ActionParsnip1kure: no because there are so MANY sound cards it would be unfeasible17:23
chris__anyone a dab hand with ATI graphic drivers?17:23
ActionParsnip1!ati | chris__17:24
ubottuchris__: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto17:24
shadeslayerubottu17:24
shadeslayer:P17:24
heartsi got an ati video card?17:24
hearts:/17:24
kureok i ty it17:24
heartsi got the radeon 4800 series17:24
* rhinux is away: Zur Zeit abwesend17:24
tuxichris__, are you wanting to try the radeonhd driver?17:24
ActionParsnip1kure: if you run konsole, and type lspci and press enter17:24
kureERROR17:24
kureThe requested URL could not be retrieved17:24
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: how do install  the audio driver btw??17:24
draik_ATi, aka the Bus - Big, Red and managed by bad drivers :p17:24
chris__not quite, more troubleshooting17:24
kurei did it17:24
heartsi dont need to install soundcard drivers because i use virtualbox17:24
JarvellisIs there some easy way to switch window managers without closing all my apps?17:24
heartslol.17:24
ActionParsnip1kure:  a whole list of stuff will appear, this is your hardware, read the screen and one line will idetify the card17:24
tuxiI haven't had the need to troubleshoot, sorry17:24
trevorok when i try to add the network widget, it is just 4 boxes, i want the one that lets me connect to a wireless network17:25
kureERROR17:25
kureThe requested URL could not be retrieved17:25
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: mine ALWAYS work out of the box because i shop smart17:25
kure00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)17:25
chris__computer won't boot graphics anymore and I want to reinstall everything related to xorg and fglrx17:25
trevorlike is there when i start it up out of the box17:25
kurei find thix17:25
kure00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)17:25
shadeslayerok wait17:25
shadeslayeri think im talking to 5 people17:25
shadeslayer:P17:25
draik_LOL17:25
kurei17:25
kurewaiting .)17:25
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: sometimes you need to compile alsa with options, or compile a module or a package may contain the nnecessary files17:25
* draik_ .17:25
ActionParsnip1kure: awesome17:26
shadeslayerfirst ActionParsnip117:26
DaSkreechshadeslayer: and one draik_ bot17:26
kureso how?17:26
draik_DaSkreech: What? How am I a bot?17:26
DaSkreechchris__:  how are you connected here?17:26
DaSkreechdraik_: You sound like one :)17:26
draik_!botsnack17:26
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!17:26
chris__laptop17:26
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: ok, i reinstalled Kubuntu-desktop,stupid adept17:26
shadeslayerthey were working earlier17:26
heartshey whats that irc command to see all the rooms list17:26
ActionParsnip1kure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68583717:26
draik_shadeslayer: Did that fix the audio issue?17:26
shadeslayerone sec draik_17:27
kurei try17:27
ActionParsnip1!channels | hearts17:27
ubottuhearts: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines17:27
draik_hearts '/list'17:27
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: so i have to install fresh drivers,any idea?? draik_has the same problem17:27
heartscool17:27
heartsthanks17:27
draik_NP17:27
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: what sound card do you have?17:27
tuxichris__, you can still get to a command line?17:27
shadeslayer00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)17:28
kureshit17:28
trevordraik: in the widget i added, it onlyhas powersave, aggressive powersave, performance, and presentation17:28
trevorwhere is dynamic17:28
trevoror is that somethign else entirely17:28
draik_trevor: Huh? What widget did you add?17:28
chris__tuxi: I can get into recovery command line, but not failsafe17:28
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kurei try sudo modprobe snd-  and it write sound module not found17:28
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/12256017:29
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torero!ru17:29
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:29
shadeslayerboo to bugs17:29
trevorpower management17:29
ActionParsnip1kure: you need to install some stuff, read the post i gave you17:29
shadeslayerspecially to bug #117:29
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: i dont think bug #1 is a bug17:29
shadeslayercounts as one for linux17:29
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kuresome link for download it?17:30
tuxichris__, have you tried copying an old xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?17:30
ActionParsnip1kure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68583717:30
draik_ActionParsnip1: What about my audio card: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller17:30
bishopzejenkjnekjne17:31
bishopzlol, my bad apparently my daughhter wanted to type17:31
tuxiI knew it wasn't a language I recognized17:31
bishopzlol17:31
draik_bishopz: I thought you were just checking if the keyboard works17:32
bishopznah, i have a blockbuster to ensure that :x17:32
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: so many patches ,which one to apply??17:32
chris__tuxi: many times.  It's a bit of a complicated story which I've typed out at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107731117:32
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: not sure, thats as much as i know17:33
shadeslayer:)17:33
kurei must wait for update download i cant do another process during it.17:33
chris__ubuntuforums I have personally found are very ineffective17:33
ActionParsnip1draik_: is it in a laptop?17:33
draik_ActionParsnip1: Yes.17:33
shadeslayerwell ubottu has some info,but the wiki is down17:33
bishopzyea unbuntu forums are vague17:33
ActionParsnip1draik_: what make/model17:33
draik_shadeslayer: I say, use the one the works ;)17:33
draik_ActionParsnip1: Dell Smartstep 250N17:33
bobososince we are talking bout sound does anyone know why all my music and movies the sound works but it is very low.  volume is up in the program and on the volume contral in the system tray17:33
shadeslayerhehe,not easy i tell you17:34
shadeslayerboboso: hehe,i had that problem17:34
bishopzdo u have linux running as the default17:34
bishopzin sounds17:34
shadeslayerwhen i had sound17:34
draik_Did you remember to set the audio to 11?17:34
bobosobishopz: how do i check17:34
bishopzlinux instals its own drivers, so ... if youre sounds low could be because its running that and not off your actual intended driver17:34
shadeslayerboboso: go in kmix,enable every option in the settings and set everything to full17:35
bishopzshit, hang on, i had the fix for it somewhere17:35
ActionParsnip1draik_: lsmod | grep soundcore17:35
bishopzits a pain17:35
bishopzu have to locate your sound drivers17:35
ActionParsnip1draik_: does it output?17:35
bishopzdisable all the ones that arent yours17:35
bishopzlol hang on17:35
draik_Yup17:35
draik_soundcore              15328  1 snd17:35
ActionParsnip1cool17:35
shadeslayeri have soundcore              16800  1 snd17:36
* draik_ loves yakuake :)17:36
shadeslayer:P17:36
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tuxichris__, have you tried sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx?17:36
shadeslayerbrb17:37
heartshey17:37
ActionParsnip1draik_: are you fully updated?17:37
draik_Yup17:37
heartsi heard bill gates lives on an island17:37
bishopzits somewhere on unbuntuforums.17:37
ActionParsnip1draik_: + 1 yakuake17:37
bishopzhang on im still looking i just reformatted too so shits all over17:37
heartsand he has water speakers to listen to music while he's scuba diving17:37
heartslol17:37
bobosowhen i open mplayer i get this msg would the be the reason why the sound is low?  ao pulse failed to connect to server: connection refused.  anyone know what is causing it.17:37
ActionParsnip1draik_: is it muted?17:37
bishopzthat could be partial17:37
draik_LOL. No.17:38
chris__tuxi: big problem there, only a wireless connection to the computer in question, no idea how to access wireless networks through command line17:38
draik_ActionParsnip1: I try to run amarok and it won't play because it says there aren't any drivers.17:38
DaSkreechhearts: Seriously though if you don't have a question join #kubuntu-offtopic17:38
ActionParsnip1!sound17:38
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:38
draik_ActionParsnip1: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.17:39
chris__of note though, I tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-driver and it said that it isn't installed, figured that wasn't default behaviour17:39
bishopzi have a question maybe someone can answer :/17:39
bishopzi have a WD 300gb external HD, now.. its filled with music and movies, i plug it in , bang it says its mounted but wont read anything17:39
bishopzany thoughts?17:39
shadeslayerbishopz:locked maybe??17:40
DaSkreechbishopz: Won't read?17:40
tuxichris__, no wired option then?17:40
draik_bishopz: I've had bad times with WD. I use Seagate now.17:40
bishopznot locked, just wont show ANY files inside17:40
bishopzyea i think im going with seagate next17:40
shadeslayerdraik_: clicky seagates :P17:40
draik_shadeslayer: Clicky, but it works17:41
shadeslayerhehe17:41
chris__tuxi: I've tried the long distance stretched ethernet cable to different floor method, but it doesn't want to recognise it17:41
DaSkreechbishopz: who owns the directory it's mounted on?17:41
epimethguys... clicking on "add" in the "add widgets" dialog causes plasma to max out the cpu and stop working....17:42
bishopzhang on.17:42
epimethalso, the widget doesn't get added17:42
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: btw i have a 64 bit compilation,so none of the patches will work lol17:42
epimethanything I can do to track down the bug and forward it along to the kde4 folks?17:42
bishopzwhere would i find that17:42
ActionParsnip1draik_: this may help: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-03/4046.html17:42
draik_ActionParsnip1: !sounds needs to be updated.17:42
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ActionParsnip1another root logon, great :(17:43
DaSkreechbishopz: It's mounted in ?media ?17:43
chris__that's not cool17:43
DaSkreechGuest27806: Don't login to IRC as root17:43
heartsanyone using konversation17:43
hearts?17:43
bishopzit mounts to desktop17:43
epimethhearts: me!17:43
heartscool17:43
chris__right now17:43
tuxihearts, I am atm17:43
heartshow do you close a channel17:43
DaSkreechbishopz: Oh? Hmm Ok ls -l /media17:43
heartslol17:43
epimethhearts:yes, ARM17:43
epimetherm ATM17:43
epimethheh17:43
DaSkreechhearts: ctrl+W17:43
bishopzso unmount and remount in media?17:43
epimethor right click on the panel and click "close"17:44
epimethI prefer ctrl+w :-)17:44
heartsi just had to leave the #windows room17:44
shadeslayerhearts: how about /part17:44
shadeslayer:)17:44
chris__how often does the root thing happen out of interest?17:44
heartssome dork was asking about if there's some way of bypassing rebooting xp after updates17:44
DaSkreechchris__: fairly often17:44
shadeslayer:)17:44
heartsi swear man, people dont know how to prioritize.17:44
draik_ActionParsnip1: Nothing much on there.17:44
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: any other ideas??17:44
heartsctrl+w works fine17:45
heartsthanks17:45
ActionParsnip1draik_: looks like its gonna be a pain, theres some module options in that link that may help17:45
tuxihearts, you can type /part, click on the x icon on the bottom right of the konversation window, or the ctrl-w as suggested above17:45
chris__figured, it's not the sort of name you choose willingly17:45
shadeslayerdid trevor leave??17:45
epimethso anybody having problems with adding widgets?17:45
heartsopps.17:46
* shadeslayer is excited,his update is about to complete17:46
heartsi just clicked that x and it made me leave17:46
heartslol17:46
shadeslayer:P17:46
tuxiepimeth, are you fully updated?  When the 4.2 was moved to main/backports my widget issues decreased17:46
tuxiI thought that was what you wanted, hearts17:47
heartsno17:47
shadeslayerLD17:47
shadeslayer:D17:47
heartsi wanted to leave the windows room17:47
heartsnot this one17:47
heartsthe #ubuntu one sucked too17:47
heartslol17:47
epimethtuxi: yea, I think it started after I updated *to* kde4.217:47
draik_hearts: '/close' works17:47
heartsthis chan is cool17:47
heartsfor what it is at least =P17:48
tuxisorry I don't know how to help, epimeth17:48
heartsanyone here ever phreaked before17:48
epimethtuxi: no worries... It'll probably work itself out in a few days17:49
draik_I just realized I don't have kMix running and it won't run when I try to execute it through the run command17:49
DaSkreechhearts: Yeah it is pretty neat :) but still we need to help people here. If you don't have a problem then join #kubuntu-offtopic and talk there you can stay in here and watch what's happening17:49
ivan_anyone use acer aspire 4520?17:49
heartsoh ok thnx17:50
shadeslayeryaay update complete17:50
shadeslayerbrb after reboot17:50
draik_Well, this audio issue is going to have to wait. Time to jump in the shower and start heading off to work.17:50
heartsda are you an op17:50
ivan_im using acer aspire 4520, still dont have wireless driver on ubuntu 8.0417:50
ivan_anyone can help me?17:50
shadeslayerooh netsplit17:50
draik_Pretty17:50
epimethivan_: what wlan card do you have?17:51
shadeslayerholy moly17:51
andypls1kubuntu suck :)17:51
shadeslayer973 MB for the Ubuntu desktop17:51
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shadeslayerandypls1: no way17:51
shadeslayer!suck17:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about suck17:51
shadeslayer:P17:51
ivan_atheros17:51
shadeslayer! gnome17:52
ubottuGNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.17:52
ivan_<epimeth> ivan_: what wlan card do you have?  <<< im using atheros17:52
andypls1shadeslayer ubuntu are better17:52
shadeslayernope17:52
shadeslayerkubuntu is better17:52
shadeslayer!better17:52
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.17:52
epimethivan_: does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros17:52
ivan_ok epimeth17:52
ivan_ill try17:52
ivan_thx17:52
shadeslayerok any idea how to install GNOME17:52
shadeslayera very basic install17:53
andypls1shadeslayer the best thing it to get a Macbook17:53
shadeslayer973 MB is too much17:53
harjot_!ica17:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ica17:53
heartsgnome on kubuntu?17:53
shadeslayerandypls1: stop ranting17:53
harjot_!italc17:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about italc17:53
harjot_!italk17:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about italk17:53
andypls1shadeslayer how can i stop something i don't even know what it means?17:53
shadeslayer??17:53
andypls1ranting17:54
shadeslayeryou dont know how to rant??17:54
shadeslayer:P17:54
shadeslayerno wonder you support macs17:54
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bishopz-curses at compiz-17:54
bishopzgrrrrrr17:54
shadeslayerok ive gtg17:54
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bishopzi give up17:54
shadeslayerKDE is better17:54
shadeslayer:P17:54
bishopzsudo =17:54
andypls1KDE is slow17:54
ActionParsnip1bishopz: compiz is garbage imho17:55
andypls1the only good thing with KDE is CTRL+Alt+Esc17:55
chris__gnome doesn't have cursor kill?!?17:55
bishopzwhats good for customizing then17:55
bishopz?17:55
Led_Zeppelinwhat is the Gnome tool to show Wireless settings? I am using KDE but I don't think a tool like that exists for kde17:55
tuxiLed_Zeppelin, nm-applet may be what you're looking for17:56
andypls1no chris__ it doesnt17:56
ActionParsnip1Led_Zeppelin: dont ask i both channels, it makes you look silly17:56
epimethLed_Zeppelin: ummm... KNetworkManager does....17:56
Led_Zeppelinepimeth, what RPMs do I need?17:57
Led_Zeppelinfor KNetworkManager17:57
DragnslcrLed_Zeppelin- Ubuntu doesn't use RPM17:57
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Led_Zeppelini mean dpkg17:58
Led_Zeppelin:-)17:58
Led_Zeppelinhehe17:58
epimethLed_Zeppelin: we use packages... its in basic17:58
* shadeslayer jumps due to his happiness17:58
epimethit is installed by default with kubuntu-desktop17:58
jussi01Led_Zeppelin: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome17:58
* shadeslayer was startled by sound from the speakers 17:58
shadeslayeryayyyy17:58
shadeslayerim at peace with the worls17:59
shadeslayer*world17:59
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: everything is  aok!!17:59
tuxino longer silent, shadeslayer?18:00
shadeslayerActionParsnip1: dont know what happened but the update seemed to have set everything to default18:00
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* DS-Away is away: Not Here18:00
shadeslayertuxi: nope,im shouting18:00
tuxilol18:00
shadeslayerrather my laptop is18:00
jussi01!away > DS-Away18:00
ubottuDS-Away, please see my private message18:00
jussi01shadeslayer: please attempt to keep ontopic - share your joy in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)18:01
shadeslayerhehe well im kinda on topic18:01
shadeslayeryou see i was saying that my sound works in Kubuntu18:03
shadeslayerbtw can anybody guide me to a 20 MB gnome install??18:03
shadeslayeri just want gnome without the apps18:03
shadeslayer!puregnome18:04
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »18:04
shadeslayerhmm not quite18:04
bishopzcompiz deleted >:O18:04
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: apt-cache seach gnome | less18:05
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: it'll take a while to read but should give clues18:05
shadeslayerhmm18:05
shadeslayerso i pick every package,no ways18:06
tuximaybe sudo aptitude install gnome (it appears to be a metapackage)18:06
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-207847.html18:06
jussi01ActionParsnip1: that was an affirmative to your question before. (it worked)18:09
ActionParsnip1jussi01 genttoo handbook ;)18:10
trevorok, so what is the network manager widget called?18:10
trevorsince i dont seem to have it18:10
jussi01ActionParsnip1: thanks. I did kinda know it, just couldnt remember ;)18:10
jussi01trevor: nm-applet18:10
trevoryeah18:11
trevori dont have that18:11
trevorand when i type sudo apt-get install nm-applet18:11
trevorit has an error18:12
jussi01trevor: wait, for gnome or kde's version?18:12
trevorkde18:12
jussi01knetworkmanager for kdes version18:12
trevori have my ethernet plugged in, but i will need wireless at work later18:12
DaSkreechFor kde 4.2 \o/18:12
trevorargh18:12
trevoryes18:12
trevorkde4.318:12
trevor4.218:12
trevorwhen i click on the one in internet menu, it doesnt open18:13
epimethjussi01_: kde its network-manager-kde18:13
tuxinot knetworkmanager?18:14
trevorargh18:14
trevorit wont open18:14
trevorthis is so frusterating18:14
jussi01epimeth: package or command to open it ;)18:14
trevorthere is no widget, even though i somehow accidentally deleted it18:14
trevormy laptop is running so hot it is uncomfortable to be on my lap,18:15
epimethjussi01_ that is the package... the command is KNetworkManager18:15
trevorunbeleiveable18:15
trevorim going back to mint18:15
trevorlol18:15
jussi01trevor: you looked in the process list to see if its running?18:15
trevoryes, it is running18:16
DaSkreechtrevor: Cooking eggs ?18:16
trevori cannot access it ever18:16
jussi01trevor: tried killing it and then starting it again?18:16
trevori cant click on it, i cant open it in the menu, i cant kill the process18:16
trevori cant even get into root18:16
trevormaybe its because i am new to kde, but so far, this sucks18:17
ActionParsnip1trevor: root account is disabled18:17
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Novalgina2Fasthow i can restart audio without restart x session?because if i type killall pulseaudio it doesn't work,i don' have pulseaudio installed18:17
Dr_Willispulseaudio is used by gnome - not kde.18:17
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Dr_Willis!alsa18:17
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:17
Dr_Willisisent there an alsa service also?18:17
* DaSkreech rolls eyes18:17
ActionParsnip1Novalgina2Fast: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart18:17
ActionParsnip1i think18:17
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tuxiNovalgina2Fast, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart18:18
ActionParsnip1alsa-utils18:18
Dr_Willisdepending on how alsa crashes - you may hav to reboot18:18
Dr_Willisbye all18:18
Novalgina2Fastsudo /ect/init.d/alsa-utils restart didn't work(it restart alsa but if i try too use audio doesn't work)18:19
halfsanehey all!18:19
halfsaneI am having a problem switching themes in KDE4.218:20
halfsaneI am in the theme details menu and when I pick one the apply button does not come un-greyed18:20
halfsaneany thoughts?18:20
ActionParsnip1halfsane: does it switch if youu log off and on18:21
tuxido you have themes that show up when you right-click on the desktop and select Appearance Settings, halfsane?18:21
trevoris it the glass one halfsane18:21
halfsaneActionParsnip1: no, i have tried this18:22
ActionParsnip1halfsane: just checking18:22
halfsanetuxi: yes they appear there... that menu actually worked for me,  is this a bug?18:22
halfsanetrevor: yes18:22
tuxino idea18:22
ActionParsnip1halfsane: try: sudo chown -R <your user name> /home/<your user name>18:22
trevori cant get it to work either18:23
ActionParsnip1halfsane: it might be a settings file permission18:23
ActionParsnip1halfsane: i'd also run: sudo chmod -R 755 /home/<your username>18:23
halfsanechown: cannot access `/home/halfsane/.gvfs': Permission denied18:24
halfsanesame error here as well18:24
halfsanechmod: cannot access `/home/halfsane/.gvfs': Permission denied18:24
halfsaneActionParsnip1: both those produced the same results18:25
ActionParsnip1halfsane: just makes sure you are the owner of your files and that you have full access to them18:26
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ActionParsnip1halfsane: caan you set the settings now?18:26
halfsaneActionParsnip1: negatory18:26
ActionParsnip1bah18:26
halfsaneActionParsnip1: what do i need to do   lol18:27
ActionParsnip1halfsane: is it the same for all users?18:27
halfsaneonly one user18:27
ActionParsnip1halfsane: make a fresh one18:27
ActionParsnip1!adduser18:27
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo18:27
trevorgod this really sucks18:28
trevori like the way kde looks so good, but i cant seem to figure any of this out18:28
ActionParsnip1trevor: new systems will give you teething troubles18:28
trevorif i could find a way to cool this thing off, i would just do a reinstall18:29
[TCK]kde can be tricky, but mostly it's just a case of what you know18:29
trevorlol, i have been using linux off and on since like 9918:29
trevori am still a noob though18:29
trevorbut i have never used kde before, mainly xcfe and gnome18:29
ActionParsnip1trevor: every day is a school day18:29
ActionParsnip1trevor: fluxbox here18:29
trevormy laptop is literally burning me18:29
trevori have used fluxbox on my fedora ppc on my imac g518:30
trevorwasnt a fan18:30
[TCK]how old's the laptop?  might be worth giving it a clean18:30
trevori bought it the summer18:30
trevorin the summer i man18:30
trevormean18:30
trevorjeez i cant type18:31
trevorits is a satellite18:31
halfsanetrevor: there is a bug in kubuntu jaunty where you need to restart if it's eating your cpu...18:31
[TCK]probably not a dust issue18:31
trevori am on 8.1018:31
halfsanek18:31
[TCK]I assume it's the cpu causing the heat18:31
trevori would assume so also18:31
trevorits on powersave too18:32
[TCK]what's it idling at?18:32
trevorthe temp?18:32
trevorlet me look18:32
[TCK]cpu %18:32
[TCK]and temp too, I guess18:32
trevorit is idling at around 918:32
[TCK]what's the big taker? xorg or plasma I'm guessing18:33
trevor404.3mib/3.618:33
trevorkysysgaurd?18:33
trevorxorg is below tha18:33
[TCK]ksysguard is the program you're using18:33
trevort18:33
trevoryeah  i know18:34
trevorwtf18:34
[TCK]ie: system monitor18:34
[TCK]I put my refresh to three seconds, stops that taking up so much cpu when it does run, though obviously it doesn't run all the time18:34
trevoryeah18:35
trevori dont know18:35
[TCK]as for xorg, I swear that takes up too much cpu18:35
ActionParsnip1trevor: ease up on the enter key duder18:35
trevorsorry18:35
DaSkreech[TCK]: I hate Xorg18:36
trevori mean, im probably just going to go back to gnome, since that doesnt burn my legs18:36
cyberHi all18:36
[TCK]I've never gotten along with xorg, not sure if it's just my experience or a general consensus18:37
cyberguys i have a graphic problem18:37
sztomiHi. I have some troubles with configuring Kopete 0.70 with Google Talk under KDE4.2. It says it was unable to connect to talk.google.com. I used this walkthrough: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support Could someone help me?18:38
DaSkreechcyber: Which is?18:38
DaSkreechsztomi: can you ping talk.google.com ?18:39
badpcIs there a need for virus protection on linux?18:39
cyberi installed my video card but i noticed graphic issues like fuzzy pics and apps take long time to open18:40
DaSkreech!virus18:40
ubottuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2118:40
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[TCK]sztomi: if it's any help I can't seem to connect either18:41
halfsaneanyone know how to get ride of the borders on plasmoid in kde 4.2,  thanks!18:42
halfsane*plasmoids18:42
[TCK]don't think you can short of choosing a different theme, could be wrong though18:46
halfsane[TCK]: think your right   :)18:46
tuxihalfsane, I think they're fixed18:46
DaSkreechhalfsane: what window manager are you running?18:47
halfsaneim new to kde, whatever the default is... kwin maybe?18:47
DaddyLonglegsWhenever I try to open a video file, my desktop completely freezes, my keyboard hangs, and nothing works anymore. I tried both Dragon Player, and VLC, but both showed the same behavior. Any ideas?18:47
MuzerHi. I'm using the NVIDIA TwinView thing to get multiple monitors (no idea if that is some NVIDIA-specific thing or if it's standard, I don't think it matters for this query), but most (not all) windows for some reason spawn on the left monitor, when I want stuff to by default spawn on the right. How do I go about setting this?18:47
Muzernote that the left monitor is 1024x768, in case I need to input the resolution as a constant or something18:48
HighAndDryhi!18:48
halfsaneDaddyLonglegs: i had a similar problem when using amarok 2 at the same time.. i switched to banshee and all is well now18:48
MuzerHighAndDry: Hi18:48
HighAndDryi've got some trouble installing pulseaudio in kubuntu18:48
[TCK]DaddyLongLegs: try using a different video output in VLC perhaps?  Try X11, or XVideo.18:49
HighAndDrythe server throws this two error messages when i run the command18:49
HighAndDryW: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.18:49
HighAndDryALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL front:018:49
HighAndDryW: alsa-util.c: Cannot find fallback mixer control "PCM".18:49
DaddyLonglegshalfsane: Let me give it a try.18:49
HighAndDrythen it starts anyway, and everything seems to be fine but i can't hear any sound18:50
HighAndDryany ideas?18:51
DaddyLonglegshalfsane: Banshee's gonna install one half of the Gnome libraries for me. :D18:52
DaddyLonglegs[TCK]: How can I change video output in VLC?18:53
halfsaneDaddyLonglegs: yeah, it has a lot of dependencies... i didnt notice so much i guess because i have gnome installed as well18:53
kronicKoHWe have any designers in the room, GRAPHIC?18:53
halfsaneDaddyLonglegs: to test all you have to do is close amarok... that did it for me, then i had to choose a new player18:54
DaddyLonglegshalfsane: My amarok was already closed when all this happened. I hate gnome, btw.18:55
halfsaneDaddyLonglegs: then you dont have the problem i had , i dont know what to tell ya...18:55
halfsaneDaddyLonglegs: make sure you have the restricted packages18:55
DaddyLonglegshalfsane: I do. I just installed fglrx, the AMD/ATI proprietory driver for my graphics. Maybe the problems is that?18:57
halfsaneDaddyLonglegs: how fast is your cpu?18:58
DaddyLonglegshalfsane: 2.4 GHz, core 2 duo18:58
halfsaneDaddyLonglegs: did the driver work for ya?18:59
DaddyLonglegshalfsane: Yes. Everything was fine so far. I'd never played any video until today when this happened.19:00
SimonSgood evening19:01
[TCK]DaddyLongLegs: video and ATI driver problems is what's causing me to reinstall Kubuntu :(19:06
trevorhas anyone here tried sabayon 4.019:07
DaddyLonglegs[TCK]: You mean the problem is due to fglrx (ATI proprietory driver)?19:07
ActionParsnip1!ot | trevor19:07
ubottutrevor: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!19:07
bishopzwho here is familiar with mounting and unmounting for external hard drives?19:12
MuzerI'm using the NVIDIA TwinView thing to get multiple monitors (no idea if that is some NVIDIA-specific thing or if it's standard, I don't think it matters for this query), but most (not all) windows for some reason spawn on the left monitor, when I want stuff to by default spawn on the right. How do I go about setting this?19:12
Muzernote that the left monitor is 1024x768, in case I need to input the resolution as a constant or something19:13
DaSkreechbishopz: I am19:13
bishopzok, quick question..19:13
bishopzi have a WD external, it auto mounts to my desktop its filled with music and movies19:14
bishopzit says mounted19:14
bishopzbut dont play anything19:14
bishopzdoesnt even read the filees19:14
DaSkreechbishopz: what happens when you tpye mount on the terminal19:14
DaSkreechDo you see the drive there?19:14
halfsaneMuzer: i think what your looking for is in settings -> window behavior -> advanced -> window specific19:14
bishopznope19:14
Muzerhalfsane: I found that, but it's a little confusing19:15
bishopzi plug it in, it shows "my book" on desk top19:15
DaSkreechbishopz: when you type sudo fdisk -l do you see it there ?19:15
bishopzproperties19:15
bishopzsays mounted19:15
bishopzhang on let mne check19:15
MuzerI can click Posititon, Apply Initially19:16
derdonHi guys! How can I set the background in Konsole transparent?19:16
Muzerbut then there's just one box19:16
Muzerdo I type 1024x0 in there or something?19:16
DaSkreechas I recall it gets mounted when you click it or something19:16
bishopzit does mount just to desk hang on checking terminal now19:17
DaSkreechok19:17
halfsaneMuzer: i never used the menu, but ya, it looks confusing !  haha19:18
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bishopzok its not showing19:18
DaSkreechbishopz: hrrm19:19
DaSkreechUSB drive I take it?19:19
DaSkreechor firewire ?19:19
bishopzyea19:19
bishopzusb19:19
DaSkreechsudo lsusb19:19
DaSkreechsee if it shows up there19:19
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bishopzBus 005 Device 007: ID 1058:0903 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.19:20
MuzerI tried what I said, doesn't seem tow ork19:20
bishopzshows there19:20
Muzerah well19:20
MuzerI'll just move them manually :(19:20
halfsaneMuzer: i know it can work, I have just never needed it myself... someone should be able to help you19:20
MuzerI suppose the other way is to physically move my monitor and then set the minor one to the right, don't want to do that though :p19:20
DaSkreechbishopz: pastebin the output of mount and of ls /dev/sd*19:20
bishopzok imcompltely new to linux  lol that justwent over my head19:21
Muzeraha19:21
bishopz:(19:21
Muzerplacement, force temporarily, under mouse19:21
Muzerthat helps19:21
Muzersince the panel is on my major screen19:22
DaSkreech!paste | bishopz19:23
ubottubishopz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:23
DaSkreechrun mount19:23
DaSkreechthen run ls /dev/sd* and paste the output from each in that site19:24
canosayanhi19:24
bishopzok brb19:24
DaSkreech when it's finished give us back the URL it produces here19:24
DaSkreech!hi19:24
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:24
shadeslayerok, i just had a brainwave19:25
shadeslayercan i install GNOME from a ubuntu CD19:25
DaSkreechno19:25
DaSkreechwell yes19:25
ActionParsnip1shadeslayer: you can use the cd as a repo19:25
shadeslayer:)19:25
casimodo#Ubuntu - fr19:25
DaSkreechbut not a live CD19:25
DaSkreech!fr | casimodo19:25
ubottucasimodo: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:25
shadeslayerthen which one??19:26
shadeslayerlike i just want GNOME along side KDE19:26
shadeslayershould i ask this in #ubuntu??19:27
DaSkreechshadeslayer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop19:27
DaSkreechdone19:27
shadeslayerill have to download then19:27
DaSkreechYeah19:27
shadeslayertry downloading 200 MB on 128 kbps connection19:28
shadeslayer:(19:28
DaSkreechif you don't want to download then use the Ubuntu alternate CD or the ubuntu DVd19:28
shadeslayeragain download,since i have neither19:29
shadeslayer:P19:29
DaSkreechshadeslayer: If you have someone on the network with Gnome you can copy it over from them19:30
shadeslayerlike someone sharing a server,uh nope19:30
DaSkreechshadeslayer: Download then. The good part is that you can resume19:31
shadeslayerhm im asking in #ubuntu to see if someone might know19:31
shadeslayer:)19:31
DaSkreechSo if you stop and shut off the computer and come back two days later it picks up from where it left off19:31
shadeslayeri dont close the terminal right19:32
Laeborg-lapa good program to stream mp3 to a shoutcast server?19:32
DaSkreechshadeslayer: You can shut off the computer19:33
DaSkreech!info icecast19:33
ubottuPackage icecast does not exist in intrepid19:33
ActionParsnip1Laeborg-lap: i think vlc does it19:33
DaSkreech!find icecast19:33
ubottuFound: icecast-server, icecast219:33
DaSkreech!info icecast219:33
ubottuicecast2 (source: icecast2): Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.2-2 (intrepid), package size 257 kB, installed size 744 kB19:33
Laeborg-lapanything like SAM Broadcaster?19:34
shadeslayerok gtg,had this brain wave as i was getting into bed :P19:34
shadeslayerbye all19:34
DaSkreechLaeborg-lap: That's the Missile launch program? :)19:34
DaSkreechshadeslayer: You can leave it downloading while you sleep :)19:34
Laeborg-laphttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11411&iTestingId=2686519:34
DaSkreechIn that case you don't close the terminal :)19:34
shadeslayerDaSkreech: i have a torrent downloading in the background in windows :P19:35
shadeslayerill leave it tommorow19:35
shadeslayer*nigh19:35
shadeslayerpnight19:35
DaSkreechHa ha Well you sound like a professional downloader19:35
shadeslayergod19:35
DaSkreechI'll stop giving you advice :)19:35
shadeslayertyping in the dark is not easy19:35
shadeslayer:)19:36
shadeslayerthanks for the help anyways19:36
shadeslayerbyeeee19:36
DaSkreechbyeeeee19:36
ActionParsnip1professional downloader?19:37
ActionParsnip1thats funny19:37
shadeslayerback in windows19:43
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ccherrettwhat is th best way to install nvidia drivers?19:51
jussi01ccherrett: kmenu - system - hardware drivers19:52
ActionParsnip1!paste19:52
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:52
tuxiccherrett, go to System/Hardware Drivers19:52
ccherrettjussi01: System Settings?19:52
ccherrettjussi01: kde4 here19:53
jussi01ccherrett: no19:53
jussi01ccherrett: system, hardware drivers19:53
ccherrettjussi01: ah got it19:53
ccherrettthanks19:53
tuxiI don't use the new menu19:53
StatuZGood evening.19:54
StatuZI just reinstalled kubuntu, but i cant get a networkconnection19:55
tuxiStatuZ, wired or wireless19:56
StatuZboth19:56
ccherrettjussi01: it did not find any drivers19:56
tuxiare you using knetworkmanager?19:56
tuxiccherrett, which card do you have?19:57
StatuZknetworkmanager is standard installed, so yes.19:57
tuxidynamic address?19:57
StatuZ DHCP19:57
ccherretttuxi: spoke to soon19:57
ccherrettthanks19:57
ccherrettall better19:57
tuxiyou found it then, ccherrett?19:58
tuxiStatuZ, I'm not thinking clearly hopefully someone else can help19:58
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StatuZ Anyone else then. Im trying to get a DHCP internetconnection, it works on other installations, but in kubuntu it wont start19:59
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bishopzok20:00
bishopznow its saying20:00
bishopzthat its a read only20:00
bishopzits mounted to /media20:01
bishopzit installed some windows components20:01
GWildcan someone here answer a question about the fstab file (Intrepid 8.10 and new Kub user)?20:01
bishopzsince i have no windows anything20:01
bishopznow trying to change it around in properties to view files20:01
bishopzsays its a read only20:01
shadeslayer!ask | GWild20:02
ubottuGWild: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:02
bishopzSorry, could not change the permissions of "My Book": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system20:02
shadeslayer!ask | GWild20:02
DaSkreechbishopz: read only means you can read it20:03
shadeslayer!ask | GWild20:03
DaSkreechshadeslayer: sstop that20:03
bishopzDaSkreech: i know, but how do i access the files20:03
DaSkreechbishopz: you should be able to20:03
shadeslayerwhat??20:03
shadeslayeri didnt do anything/20:03
GWildI have recently rearranged my system to include a new drive onto which I will move /home.  I need to modify fstab to enter the new mountpoints and there are entries in the fstab I've never seen before - do I have to use those long UUID's or can I simply use the /dev/sdx format?20:03
DaSkreechshadeslayer: you gave the message already stop spamming20:03
bishopzso maybe its the drive its'self20:04
shadeslayeroh20:04
DaSkreechGWild: You can sue both20:04
DaSkreech!uuid20:04
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)20:04
shadeslayersue :O20:04
DaSkreechGWild: UUIDs are used in Ubuntu since if the mount point changes it will still find the right drive and mount it at the right place20:04
shadeslayerwhy are you gonna sue me and ubottu??20:04
shadeslayer:P20:04
DaSkreechshadeslayer: Cause you slay in the shade!20:05
shadeslayerhahaha20:05
GWildDaSkreech: I see, thank you for the info20:05
shadeslayer:)20:05
DaSkreechbishopz: More likely it's that it has some protection thing on it20:05
bishopzif i do sudo blkid, ... it brings up /dev/sdb120:06
bishopzit shows it there20:07
DaSkreechbishopz: That's probably your drive20:07
bishopzSEC_TYPE="msdos" LABEL="My Book" UUID="96D8-AEA8" TYPE="vfat"20:07
DaSkreechLets try something20:07
bishopzok20:07
DaSkreechmkdir drive20:07
DaSkreechsudo mount /dev/sdb1 drive20:07
DaSkreechls drive20:07
DaSkreechsee what that does20:07
bishopzmount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or drive busy20:08
bishopzmount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is mounted on /media/My Book20:08
SiVA__man... I keep getting booted from irc20:09
DaSkreechbishopz: ls /media/My\ Book20:09
badpchow can i see how much disk space i have?20:09
DaSkreechdu20:09
DaSkreechwait20:09
DaSkreech df20:09
bishopzls: cannot access /media/My Book/FOUND.000: Input/output error20:09
bishopzFOUND.000                   Recycled              System Volume Information20:10
DaSkreechbishopz: that's all? no listing of directories ?20:10
bishopzimportant stuff to back up  resycled20:10
DaSkreechbishopz: That's all that's on the drive ?20:10
bishopz$RECYCLE.BIN                Rjays Music - Movies20:10
DaSkreechAh ok20:10
ActionParsnip1badpc: df -h20:10
bishopznope thats it20:10
ActionParsnip1DaSkreech: -h makes it humanly readable20:10
DaSkreechActionParsnip1: I know20:11
bishopzbut if i plug it in to a windows machine, it works perfectly fine20:11
DaSkreechbut much less accurate20:11
DaSkreechbishopz: Yeah assumingit doesn't have a Program requirement it should work20:11
bishopzyea, it runs fine on windows, problem is, i dont have windows20:11
DaSkreech:-)20:11
StatuZAnyone knows why i cant get a DHCP connection with KNetworkManager?20:12
DaSkreechok does dolphin /media/My\ Book work ?20:12
Level15StatuZ: b/c the dhcp server might be down? :P20:12
bishopzinstalling dolphin20:12
bishopzhang on20:12
StatuZLevel15, Its up and running20:12
DaSkreechbishopz: you don't have it?20:12
badpcActionParsnip1: linux is crazy it doesnt use hardly any space20:12
DaSkreechbishopz: This Gnome ?20:12
Level15StatuZ: try to get the address on the command line20:13
bishopzYes20:13
DaSkreechbadpc: considering20:13
StatuZhmm?20:13
Level15StatuZ: sudo dhclient20:13
DaSkreechbishopz: the do nautilus /media/My\ Book20:13
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DaSkreechthen20:13
badpcDaSkreech: considering my vista takes up almost 30gig of hard drive space on a fresh install20:14
DaSkreechbadpc: I'm just saying hat 2.5 Gigs is still a decent amount of space to take up20:14
bishopzit brought me to properties20:14
DaSkreechbut considering the competition and what comes in the default then yeah it's tiny20:15
alakhiahi, doesn't anyone know how I can play "video/x-m4v" mime-type in firefox?20:15
DaSkreechbishopz: o_O20:15
bishopzyea lol20:15
badpcDaSkreech: yeah i was just comparing to windows20:15
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DaSkreechbadpc: That's with MS office installed?20:15
bishopzIt opened to the proerties, i go to folder acess, and click acess files20:15
bishopzit denies me20:15
DaSkreechbishopz: open nautilus and see if you can browse to /media20:15
badpcDaSkreech: no i dont have office20:15
DaSkreechbadpc: Hmm that's like 10Gb itself20:16
alakhiaanyone?20:16
StatuZLevel15, Done. It is discovering a lot of things on eth0, pan0, wlan0 and wmaster0. "No DHCPOFFERS recieved."20:16
badpcDaSkreech: yes it is20:16
bishopzOMFG20:16
DaSkreechalakhia: try mozilla-mplayer20:16
bishopzI INSTALLED DOLPHIN20:16
bishopzran it20:16
bishopz:O20:16
bishopzIT WORKED... dude i love u20:16
DaSkreechand it worked?20:16
bishopzlolol20:17
DaSkreechyeah I was trying to figure why it wouldn't work20:17
DaSkreech that made no sense to me20:17
bishopzU just saved me so much time and money20:17
alakhiaDaSkreech: I already have mozilla-mplayer installed20:17
ActionParsnip1alakhia: apt-cache seach vlc | grep plug20:17
DaSkreechalakhia: Oh umm ok does mplayer play m4v ?20:17
ActionParsnip1alakhia: sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc20:18
bishopzDaSkreech: Now everytime i wanna open it do i have to run thru dolphin in terminal?20:18
alakhiaDaSkreech: i don't have a local file that I can try to play using mplayer20:18
ActionParsnip1alakhia: i think vlc can handle them, you may need codecs20:18
DaSkreechbishopz: No just alt+f220:19
DaSkreechdolphin20:19
StatuZLevel15, Done. It is discovering a lot of things on eth0, pan0, wlan0 and wmaster0. "No DHCPOFFERS recieved."20:19
bishopz;) tyvm20:19
DaSkreechDolphin should have a places bar on the ... right I think20:19
DaSkreechyou can just click the device20:19
alakhiaActionParsnip1: let me try ... looking for vlc plugin for mozilla20:19
alakhiaActionParsnip1: ok, am installing 31mb's worth of stuff ... let's see what happens20:20
bishopzlol now if u could teach me how to fully install compiz and get that working id almost be happy ;x20:22
alakhiaActionParsnip1: installed, restarted firefox, still no dice20:23
ActionParsnip1alakhia: hmmm20:23
alakhiaActionParsnip1: looked in the html file and figured out the url ... am downloading the file to see if mplayer plays it directly20:24
DaSkreechbishopz: apt-get install compiz ccsm20:24
alakhiaActionParsnip1: trailers on apple.com work fine. I think those are encoded using H.264 or something20:24
bishopzis that complete?20:24
bishopznothing else needed20:25
ActionParsnip1bishopz: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager20:25
alakhiaActionParsnip1: so, mplayer doesn't play the file either ... shows random noise20:25
ActionParsnip1alakhia: then you need codecs20:26
ActionParsnip1!codecs | alakhia20:26
ubottualakhia: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:26
DaSkreechbishopz: Yeah20:27
pippo_hallo20:29
pippo_!list20:29
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:29
bishopzdamn playback on linux for avi is decent20:29
ActionParsnip1bishopz: its a well documented format so codecs can be decent20:31
alakhiai see all kinds of variations for gstreamer plugins, good, bad, ugly, really-bad, multiverse variant20:31
bishopzive noticed. the external i have has 100 movies and over 100thousand mp3s20:32
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bishopz-running thru them all now20:32
alakhiaActionParsnip1: i've downloaded several gstreamer plugin versions but it doesn't seem to help20:37
alakhiaActionParsnip1: I also have w32codecs20:38
alakhiahere is the web page in question in case that helps: https://www.miroguide.com/items/146320720:38
alakhiawhen i got to this page, i just see a "Click here to download plugin" in the preview window20:39
ActionParsnip1alakhia: ok whats the plugin it wants to download?20:39
alakhiaI'm told: "Unknown plugin (video/x-m4v)"20:40
alakhiaahh, it plays in mplayer20:40
alakhiajust can't get firefox to play20:40
alakhiait is a big file and wouldn't play in mplayer all this time because it wasn't completely downloaded20:41
alakhiaso I think my problem is to just convince firefox that it can play this mime-type20:42
alakhiausing mplayer20:42
alakhiaif I do: "about:plugins" ... i don't see x-m4v anywhere20:42
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bishopzis there a volume booster of some sorts?20:50
shadeslayer|awaybishopz, low volume??20:50
bishopzextremely20:50
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shadeslayerbishopz, open the mixer20:51
bishopzwhere is it20:51
shadeslayerand then the settings and enable everything20:51
shadeslayeruh bottom right20:51
shadeslayerclick on the sound icon20:51
bishopzoh yea, lol everything is up.20:52
shadeslayereverything set to max??20:52
EnzoTagliahi20:52
bishopzmhm20:52
shadeslayerthen get VLC20:52
bishopzsudo get-apt vlc ?20:53
shadeslayeryeah20:53
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bishopzgrrr command not found20:54
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shadeslayer|awaywhat!!!!!!!!!!!20:54
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shadeslayerapt-get loll20:54
shadeslayernot get-apt20:54
Huntzlol20:54
shadeslayerhahaha20:54
bishopzi did that20:55
shadeslayerwhat??20:55
shadeslayersudo apt-get install vlc20:55
bishopzah20:55
shadeslayerXD20:55
bishopzlol20:55
shadeslayer:D20:55
Huntzso I am struggling with command line and perl20:56
bishopzive been trying to get this system running smoothly all day20:56
bishopzits amazing how a simple word such as instal20:56
bishopzu lose so much translation20:56
shadeslayerbishopz, it wont for a few days20:56
shadeslayer:)20:56
bishopzlol20:56
Huntzwhile trying to get out of my end of life versions20:56
bishopzive noticed20:56
bishopzlol, i fix one thing and find 8 more things that should run better20:56
shadeslayeryeah,youll never be happy for the first week20:57
HuntzI'll second that20:57
bishopzlol20:58
HuntzI'd be even happier if I would just break down and buy a linux friendly printer20:58
bishopzlol20:59
dromerhi all, with a couple of programs I'm having the following problem: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).20:59
bishopz screw that one thing i learned quick was the bluetooth settings20:59
bishopzlmfao20:59
dromerI've seen various awnsers to this online, but I'm not sure what to do with my system20:59
shadeslayerdromer, tried reinitializing the drivers21:00
olebohemhello all, can anyone help me with this: I am currently trying to play commandos 2 trough wine. Everything seems to work very good, but when I try to play multiplayer, it says that tcp/ip is not available.21:00
dromershadeslayer: no, should I do that?21:00
olebohemI have played warcraft 3 through wine and the network works fine21:00
shadeslayerdromer, K>apps>system>hardware drivers21:00
shadeslayeralso21:00
shadeslayer!nvidia | dromer21:01
ubottudromer: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:01
olebohemcan`t find any solution online:/21:01
alakhiaActionParsnip1: i hacked the plugin.dat file myself21:01
shadeslayerhearts, welcome back21:01
alakhiaActionParsnip1: i added: "28:video/x-m4v:MPEG 4 Video:m4v:$" and incremented the counter from 28 to 2921:01
heartssup dude.21:01
heartsi was letting my comp rest for a bit21:02
hearts=P21:02
shadeslayerim going to sleep for the 5th time21:02
shadeslayerXD21:02
shadeslayerbyee21:02
heartslol21:02
heartspeace21:02
bishopzvlc is nice21:02
[TCK]ever?21:02
shadeslayerdromer, ask here again if the problem persists21:02
shadeslayerbishopz, well known fact21:03
dromershadeslayer: kay, lemme check\21:03
bishopzthanks for the heads up21:03
shadeslayerdromer, quickly,coz im sleeping in 2 min21:03
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shadeslayernp21:03
shadeslayer!away | Roozbeh|Away21:03
ubottuRoozbeh|Away: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»21:03
shadeslayeroh my21:04
shadeslayerthat didnt go right21:04
Huntzanyone familiar with the EOLupgrade procedure?21:04
shadeslayer!eol | Huntz21:04
ubottuHuntz: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases21:04
shadeslayeroh21:04
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shadeslayeryou want to upgrade from eol??21:04
HuntzYes I know, and I have already been from edgy to feisty21:04
Huntzbut I am have a problem with a command21:05
shadeslayerHuntz, and now to Interpid?21:05
Huntzno unfortunately fiesty is also EOL21:05
shadeslayer:)21:05
Huntzso I need to go to gutsy21:05
shadeslayerwell no idea21:05
heartsi thought you were going to sleep21:05
shadeslayerhehe21:05
Huntzhes got one min..lol21:05
shadeslayersee what i mean for the 5th tome21:06
shadeslayer*time21:06
shadeslayerdromer, you done yet??21:06
dromershadeslayer: I just de-activate and re-activate the drivers? because it says I have the recomended drivers21:06
shadeslayeryeah,there should be a green light next to them21:06
shadeslayer:P21:06
dromerthere is21:06
shadeslayerthen the drivers are working fine21:07
HuntzShadeslayer: its a perl command for making changes in the repositories21:07
dromerhmmm, it seems to be stuck21:07
dromershadeslayer: oh -_-21:07
shadeslayerwhat happened?21:07
dromerso, what do I do then?21:07
shadeslayerhmm21:07
shadeslayerhearts, any idea?21:08
dromernothing, I'm not logged in a a sudoer atm, so I ran the program as my other user over x-forwarding .. which borked I guess, but it's ok21:08
shadeslayerim out in 10,9,8...21:08
heartswhats the problem?21:08
heartstrying to update?21:08
shadeslayernope21:08
shadeslayer<dromer> hi all, with a couple of programs I'm having the following problem: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).21:08
shadeslayerbye21:08
dromerhearts: I'm getting NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).  with some programs, and it has something to do with permissions on /dev/nvidia21:08
heartsdriver issues?21:08
* shadeslayer goes21:08
dromerfrom what I found21:09
heartsget on administrator21:09
dromerwhat do you mean?21:09
heartsdid you try changing permissions on your reg account?21:10
dromerI'm not sure what you mean21:10
heartsall right21:10
heartsare you trying to download something and it's telling you that21:10
dromerif I change any permissions on /dev/nvidia they get reset on reboot21:10
dromerno21:11
dromerI'm trying to run various programs and i't telling me that (ie FretsOnFIre or GoogleEarth)21:11
heartsohh...21:11
heartsand you got an nvidia card21:11
hearts?21:11
dromeryes21:11
bishopzany decent theme packages anyone knows of?21:11
heartsok21:11
dromerwhy else would I get a nvidia-error?21:12
heartsdid you try reinstalling the drivers?21:12
shadeslayer:)21:12
dromerthat's what shadeslayer said, but I don't remember how to do that21:12
heartsshade21:12
shadeslayer??21:12
dromerand I checked in jockey-kde but the driver seems to be ok21:12
heartswould it be one set of drivers for every nvidia card?21:12
dromershadeslayer: you where leaving :)21:13
shadeslayerhow about deactivating drivers and then following instructions here21:13
Huntznvidia drivers are uni21:13
shadeslayer!nvidia21:13
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:13
shadeslayer:D21:13
shadeslayeryou know me21:13
heartsthey're universal?21:13
Huntzat least all the ones I used in debian21:13
Huntzright from nvid21:14
heartsyeah i would assume so too21:14
heartsthats why i asked21:14
heartsall right21:14
heartswell, dromer you need to figure out how to install the drivers again21:14
heartsthen reinstall it21:14
heartsand hopefully that would fix your issue21:14
* shadeslayer ducks under the pillow21:14
heartsthis is why i virtualize =P21:14
dromer-_-21:14
Huntzif nvid is still on the linux wagon they have a fairly competent hot install21:15
Huntzerr, *how21:15
Huntz*to21:15
heartsyup21:15
heartsjust google dude.21:15
dromerI'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia21:15
Huntzdoes anyone know is flashplayer 10 only for 8.04 and above?21:16
heartsflashplayer is the latest one right?21:17
HuntzI tried to install it today and it barked at me that I am running an unsupported os21:17
Huntzhearts: yes21:17
heartsare you using an older ubuntu os21:17
Huntzyes, actually the latesst and greatest End of LIfe Feisty21:17
heartslol21:18
heartsthats your issue brah21:18
heartswhy you using it?21:18
Huntzwell I am in the proccess of getting back upto speed21:18
HuntzI was using edgy21:18
Huntzand lets jsut say that the EOLUpgrade page has just a few stickups that I cant figure out21:19
shadeslayer[Global Notice] Hi all, I'm about to take services down for an upgrade, this means that for the duration of the downtime the network will be without our friends NickServ, ChanServ and so forth -- the upgrade shouldn't take long, but feel free to cross fingers and toes for luck regardless! I'm sorry for the inconvenience and hope you have a nice Sunday!21:20
Huntzeither someone will go hey, I know that, or I will have an ephany in a week and figure it out21:20
shadeslayerthats from Christel21:20
heartsi got that too21:20
shadeslayer:)21:20
heartswho is christel21:20
shadeslayeroperator21:21
shadeslayerfreenode op to be exact21:21
HuntzI was hopin DaSkreech was on, but just as I popped in he left21:21
hrockhola como estan21:22
Kerry_Ki810hi21:23
heartswho ops this room21:23
hrockalguien sabe como ponerle la barra de titulo a las ventanas despues de instalar compiz fusion21:23
Kerry_Ki810somebody help me please - in KDE 3.5 I used to be able to select a different wallpaper for each desktop - now I can't find the option in KDE421:24
hearts=/21:24
hrocken ubuntu 8.421:24
hearts=\21:24
shadeslayerKerry_Ki810, no help,its designed that way21:25
shadeslayer:(21:25
Huntzarent you goin to bed yet?21:26
Kerry_Ki810oh dear..... so I can't do anything about it?21:26
shadeslayeri dont think so21:26
Kerry_Ki810I'll just have to concentrate that little bit harder when I'm working between desktops21:26
shadeslayeri thought i saw a link some days earlier,google might help21:26
shadeslayer:P21:26
Huntzdid you google and see if anyone else has dicussed it21:26
Kerry_Ki810no but i looked on ubuntuforums - nothing21:27
hrocksomeone knows how to put the title bar of windows after install compiz fusion21:27
hrockubuntu 8.421:27
Huntzstart a thread and see if anyone pipes up witha  solution21:28
bishopzi need better themessssss21:29
xgusdid some body have used vpn on a nortel contivity ?21:29
Kerry_Ki810I'll do that21:29
hrockbye21:30
Huntzit prolly get answered quicker than mine do...lol21:30
xguswhere can i get some docs of how to configure it?21:31
bishopzif i download themes where do i move the folder to to instal21:31
Huntzdunno, never nabbed new themes myself21:31
bishopz:(21:31
Huntzmaybe I should surf, we can blow up KDE together...lol21:32
bishopzrofl21:32
Huntzwb chanserv...lol21:33
Huntz!wheather21:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wheather21:33
Huntzlol21:33
chaosrhey, what's wrong with KDE, it doesnt really start after the last update21:33
shadeslayer!weather21:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about weather21:33
shadeslayer:O21:33
chaosrnow chatting using irssi _O-21:33
shadeslayer!find weather21:33
ubottuFound: libgweather-common, libgweather-dev, libgweather1, gkrellweather, libweather-com-perl (and 13 others)21:33
shadeslayerXD21:34
Huntzlaf21:34
Huntzgotto love bots21:34
shadeslayerchaosr, youre too vague21:35
shadeslayerdid you updaate using adept??21:35
chaosrwell, I assume more computers have this, kubuntu 8.10, after the last update you can log in, but does nothing more than show an empty screen21:35
shadeslayeryeah21:35
shadeslayerdrop to a console login21:35
chaosrupdated using adept, and after that command line apt-get install -f21:35
HuntzI ahve seen a bit of that in the forums21:35
shadeslayerand do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop21:36
chaosrk21:36
shadeslayeradept removed your kde21:36
chaosrthat's odd21:36
shadeslayeri had it till this evening and wham its gone21:36
chaosrwhy would it do such a thing21:36
shadeslayerconflicting packages,stupid adept21:37
tuxiinstall synaptic and use it instead21:37
shadeslayerchaosr, use konsole from now on,adept is stupid21:37
shadeslayer:P21:37
chaosrhehe21:37
chaosrindeed21:37
shadeslayeror packagekit21:37
chaosruse the console most of the time, really oldskool xD21:38
Huntzthats why I have been following the command lon only for EOL, I felt better going that way21:38
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shadeslayer:)21:38
Huntznow I need to figure out this perl line and I will a step closer to up to date21:38
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hrockhola21:43
hrockhi21:43
hrock 21:44
hrocksomeone knows how to put the title bar of windows after install compiz fusion21:44
Huntzhi21:44
hrockin ubuntu 8.421:44
matissehi21:49
ghostcubehrock, nvidia ?21:49
matisseI just installed kde4, just for testing it... but I doesn't look very nice. Are there some ways to transfor some kde3 settings to kde4?21:50
HuntzI have heard it looks simplistic21:52
matisseF.e. the font size of some is TOOOOOO small21:52
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matissetask line looks different, favourite programs in k menu are away21:53
matisseAnd, is there a way to let apt* show me all the recommended packages again which where shown, when I installed kde4?21:54
Huntzhmmmm, stumped21:54
matisseIt seems to be possible to let kde4 take all old config files, changing $kdehome21:56
goofeyhrock: I think you might want the ubuntu channel, not kubuntu21:56
Huntzbut if 4 doesnt support something that 3 does it could break it21:57
Huntzor even vice versa21:57
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matisseHuntz: right, so I make a backup of the old stuff21:59
Huntzwb hearts21:59
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bishopzlol im so bored im customizing my appearances22:00
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bishopzif i could get compiz to run right22:00
bishopzid be straight22:00
badpcanyone know y my computer will not start up when i install my Hauppauge 1600 tuner card?22:00
Huntzbad card?22:01
Huntzdoes it POST?22:02
badpcHuntz: no its brand new22:02
badpcHuntz: it starts to boot and gets to a screen that says checking battery state then freezes22:03
Huntzhave you taken it out and it runs fine?22:04
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badpcHuntz: yes it does22:05
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Huntzsounds like the card is rasing heck for sure22:05
badpcHuntz: yup not sure y or how to diognose whats going on22:06
badpcHuntz: the same card works great on my vista machine22:06
Huntzis the battery state part of the PC's normal post with out the card22:06
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badpcHuntz: yes22:07
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HuntzI know my BFG vid card has its own post so I ahd to ask22:07
matisseok, forcing 96 dpi seems to help22:08
badpcHuntz: by having its own post you mean what?22:08
matisse(with font size)22:08
heartslol22:08
Huntzlike my video card puts up its gpu specs and memspec before the PC does22:08
heartslsd is awesome22:08
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HuntzWinTV-HVR-950Q is this the model?22:10
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badpcHuntz: no its a 160022:10
matissenow, I can read again :)22:10
Huntzoops, thats a usb stick22:11
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Huntzwhat are you system specs?22:13
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badpcHuntz: p4 3.0ghz with hyperthread 320 gig hard drive 2gigs ram geforce 9500 GT 1gb ddr2 wmp54g wireless card and hauppauge 1600 pci card22:17
Huntzlaf, it definately can handle it22:18
badpcHuntz: yeah its making me mad22:18
badpcHuntz: couse i hate using vista22:19
HuntzI know I had a nic card go out and the PC wouldnt even POST22:19
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Huntzyou at least get a little start on it22:20
badpcHuntz: well the bootsplash comes up and does its thing but then nothing22:20
Huntzdid you get the card online?22:20
hansenHuntz, badpc: a card that is not perfectly in place in it's socket can also cause this (I had that with an eth card once)22:21
badpchagabaka: hmmm duly noted22:21
Huntzya, new cards can go in crispy sometimes22:22
badpcHuntz: no i got it from a store here in town22:22
hansenesp. if it's an old computer with dirt/dust in the unused sockets22:22
Huntzwell if reseating it doesnt do he trick you might try returning it for a different one22:22
hansenclean with contact spray and insert/remove card several times to give the connectors a good scratching22:23
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badpcHuntz: no i know its not the card couse i have a duel boot system and it boots fine with my vista22:23
hansenoh22:24
hansenhardware issues out of question then I guess...22:24
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badpchansen: yup22:24
Huntzeeeww22:24
Huntzbummer22:25
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badpchansen:  installed mythtv and the drivers but dont know what else it could be22:25
Huntzwhat kernel do you have?22:27
Huntz2.6.26 I assume22:27
Huntzjust because that what that devices site says it supports22:28
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guest_hi everyone, my moniter begins to tremble/shiver after it's been on for a while, is there anything that can be done??? or is anything wrong???22:34
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guest_moniter screen^22:35
badpc_Huntz: weird my wireless quits working when i plug in my tuner card22:37
Huntzthat is bizaar, under vista it does?22:38
badpc_Huntz: no under kubuntu22:38
HuntzI wonder if its having IRQ conflicts22:38
Huntzso you got it to boot now?22:39
badpc_Huntz: kinda whati was thinking but not sure how to diagnose22:39
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badpc_Huntz: no i plugged it in wile in kubuntu lol22:39
dtchenlook at dmesg and /proc/interrupts22:40
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dtchenlspci -v will also tell you resources attempted for claim and drivers active/available22:40
dtchenbadpc_: ^22:40
Huntzlol, goin for the hot swap22:41
Huntz<badpc_>: how many free slots do you have22:42
badpc_none with the tuner plugged in22:42
Huntz<badpc_>: I wonder if it would be worth swappin the cards aound22:43
HuntzI am out of idears with that22:43
badpc_Huntz: im up for anything right about now22:43
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Huntzthats about all I got left, with out being more familiar with myth and tuner cards22:45
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Tm_Thi Daviey22:46
Huntzbishopz: did you find some themes to d/l22:49
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Tm_T_tor: I think you should find another nick for you22:50
heinkel_111what is nepomukservices and why does it consume 97% cpu on my compouter?22:54
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AndySpainhi!22:55
goosfancitohi22:55
AndySpaini have just put a cd into cd tray22:55
AndySpainwhere do i find it's content?22:55
AndySpainin /media/cdrom  there is nothing22:55
goosfancitowhy i dont input to ubuntu_es?22:55
AndySpainand /media/cdrom0 also empty22:57
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itsatrickWoah...what just happened?  I installed updates and now my kde is gone. :(22:58
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MegaMetalsIs there any word of when OpenOffice 3 will be avalable ? Or do I need to manual install it?23:00
Tm_T!openoffice23:00
ubottua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org23:00
Tm_Thmmmh23:00
Tm_Tnot that23:00
Tm_TMegaMetals: you have to install it from different source23:00
MegaMetalsBut it's OK to do so ?23:01
Tm_TMegaMetals: use openoffice ppa source23:01
MegaMetalsWhere would I get that23:01
MegaMetalsAlso, how would I make my links open in FireFox instead of Konqucrap23:02
AndySpainwhy can't i find my audio cd on kubuntu?23:02
AndySpaincd is in cd tray23:02
Tm_TMegaMetals: add this to your sources.list : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main23:02
MegaMetalsTm_T: I'm using Hardy23:02
MegaMetalsIntrepid wouldn't work correctly23:02
Tm_TMegaMetals: ah, then switch it accordingly23:03
MegaMetalsAlso, what's something like Speedfan ?23:03
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Huntzitsatrick: you need did you just install to 8.1023:04
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itsatrickI've had Intrepid for a while.23:05
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itsatrickThere were just 79 upgradable packages, so I installed them.23:05
itsatrickAptitutude must have gotten rid of my KDE packages.23:05
aps03pwbI've just done a standard adept update and on reboot I no longer have window decorations - the whole thing has broken badly23:05
aps03pwbthe same happened on my dads machine23:05
HuntzI ahve seen that its been taking out the kubuntu-desktop, and not putting it back with kde423:05
aps03pwbhas there been a major screw up with the repositories?  Anyone else affected?23:06
Tm_Titsatrick: did you look carefully that you didn't accept any removal23:06
itsatrickYes.  All I saw were packages highlighted in blue.23:06
itsatrick(and green)23:06
Huntzyou on console now?23:07
itsatrickYes.23:07
Huntzsudo updatedb23:08
Huntzthen locate kde23:08
Tm_THuntz: that doesnt make much sense23:08
Huntzit will tell him if kde is still on there23:08
Tm_THuntz: what parts of kde? (;23:09
Tm_Tthere's no "kde" in that way, really23:09
Tm_Tthat "locate kde" will find a lot23:09
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itsatrickWell, the action is eating up a lot of swap space, it looks like.23:09
itsatrickOkay.  It's finished.  No output.23:10
Huntzits updating the database23:10
itsatrickAh.23:10
Huntzit never has an output23:10
itsatrick:)23:10
itsatrickStill no packages to upgrade in aptitude.23:10
Huntzyou can try the locate jsut to see whats there23:10
Tm_Tit does when errors occur23:10
Huntzits only for the distro to now where things are when you find or locate then23:11
Huntzits not only, but that I what I know it to do23:11
Huntzhmmm, I trying to think of something besides just kde for a locate23:12
itsatrickSo far looks like all kde packages are installed.23:12
Huntzdid you try startx to see if it loads23:12
itsatrickA few minutes ago, yes.23:14
itsatrickI can't right now.;23:14
Huntzwhat did startx say?23:15
itsatrickWell, normally, and right now, it says that I don't have permission to run startx.23:15
itsatrickI'm sudouser in the teriminal.23:15
heinkel_111!nepomuk23:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nepomuk23:16
Exilantand a simple X?23:16
itsatrickNo permission.23:16
Exilanthm, sudo X?23:17
Exilantor ...startx23:17
itsatrickI'll have to log out.23:18
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* Huntz is away: Gone away for now.23:23
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itsatrickAlright, still no KDE.23:27
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itsatrickThat's okay.  I kind of like gnome.23:32
Epicstriuhm... Hello?23:34
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Epicstriim looking for help with installing kubuntu23:35
Epicstrion a fairly old laptop.... that has no internet... is that possible23:35
Epicstrino one can help?23:36
matissecan somebody do me a favor? I need a screen shot of "k system setting -> ... -> fonts" from a user who didn't change the standards there (and if possible using kde3)23:37
Epicstriso many people on and yet no one willing to help a nub...23:38
Epicstri:(23:38
matisseto fast, he's gone...23:39
* huntz|away is back.23:39
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Huntzitsatrick: what happen23:39
Epicstrianyone ther23:39
matisseyes23:39
Epicstrican you help me with my problem?23:40
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matissewhats problem you have exactly?23:40
AndySpainhi!  the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the use of gnome or kde?23:40
EpicstriIm trying to install Kubuntu on my 7yr old laptop, but its rejecting23:40
Epicstriand Im not sure why23:41
Epicstriit just.... stops23:41
AndySpainif i wanna try ubuntu as well I simply install gnome in my existing kubuntu?23:41
matisseEpicstri: with a message?23:41
matisseAndySpain: right23:41
AndySpainsudo apt-get install gnome ?23:41
Epicstrino, it freezes during the installation... once during "detecting harware" and once during something else I cant remember, but never with a message23:41
Epicstriso now I have no op system on the comp23:42
Huntzthat, or maybe gnome-core?23:42
matisseEpicstri: do you have a live cd?23:42
Epicstriits kubuntu 6.06 LTS23:42
Epicstriyes23:42
matisseHuntz: gnome-core should be enough, so try it.23:42
Epicstriim currently trying to write the latest one to a cd23:43
Epicstrithough23:43
HuntzDaskreech: thanks for the help last night23:43
DaSkreechAck two seconds into the login process I get accolades23:43
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matisseEpicstri: so, does your laptop work with the live cd?23:44
Epicstriyes, with some lag23:44
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HuntzDaSkreech: The upgrade went well, but now stuck on a perl command for feisty to gutsy23:44
DaSkreechHuntz: Sure :) hope it works well for you23:45
matisse7 years old...23:45
DaSkreechHuntz: same page?23:45
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matisseEpicstri: what cpu?23:45
AndySpainthanks, Huntz23:45
Epicstricpu? srry im total nub...23:45
AndySpaingood nite, folks23:46
Huntzuhm, next page23:46
itsatrickStill nothing for KDE.  On top of that the audio comes out crackly.  I think I may do a fresh install.23:47
matisseEpicstri: Enough space on the disk?23:47
Epicstrioh ya23:47
itsatrickIt didn't come out crackly just an hour ago.23:47
Epicstri40gb23:47
Huntzitsatrick: what happen23:47
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matisseEpicstri: how long did you wait til you conclude its frozen?23:47
Epicstriover night23:48
matissewell... ok :)23:48
matissethats long enough :D23:48
EpicstriXD23:48
Reformer81I'm currently running Amarok 2.0.1 and would like to update it to 2.0.1.1.  But following the instructions on the Kubuntu website still only gives me 2.0.1.23:48
itsatrickHuntz: I still don't see the KDE desktop.23:49
DaSkreechHuntz: Which perl are you having problems with?23:49
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HuntzDaSkreech: sudo perl -p -i.feisty -e 's/old-releases.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list23:49
itsatrickOn top of the audio problem and the desktop environment problem, I also have a problem with plasmoids and openoffice.org.23:49
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itsatrickThanks, though, guys.23:50
matisseEpicstri: did you try pressing Alt + F1 to get to another display?23:50
Huntzitsatrick: you install gnome or what?23:50
DaSkreechHuntz: What's that say?23:50
Epicstri??23:50
Epicstrino, ill try23:50
Huntzno output23:50
Epicstriloading the live cd23:50
matisseEpicstri: no, when its frozen23:50
DaSkreechHuntz: then it worked23:51
Epicstrithe install freezes, not everything.23:51
EpicstriIt stops, but I can still, like, grab the window and move it around23:51
Epicstrior w/e23:51
itsatrickI think I may do a fresh install of Kubuntu23:51
Huntzdaskreech: how come when I open the sources.list I dont see anything23:52
itsatrickOr, I'll just enjoy gnome.23:52
itsatrickGet rid of KDE. :)23:52
Huntzcrap, I wonder if I typoed?23:52
DaSkreechHuntz: !!23:52
DaSkreechThat's not good23:52
DaSkreech!sourceomatic23:52
ubottusource-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.23:52
Huntzhold that though before we panic23:52
matisseEpicstri: so you might get some error message if you switch to the shells with (Strg+) Alt + F1-923:52
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Huntzitsatrick: try removing kde and reinstalling it23:53
DaSkreechHuntz: No panic :) just it's not good :)23:53
matisseEpicstri: without error messages it isn't easy to help23:53
itsatrickAlright.23:53
itsatrickIf not, then I'll just be happy with gnome.23:53
itsatrickThanks.23:53
Epicstriok, Im going to try another install, I shall comback with results, Ty Matisse23:53
Huntzitsatrick: I had to do that to fix my fontconfig file that was hangin up23:53
Huntzitsatrick: where you using kde323:54
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Epicstrihow do I change my Nick?23:55
matisseEpicstri: /nick newone23:55
Reformer81I'm currently running Amarok 2.0.1 and would like to update it to 2.0.1.1.  But following the instructions on the Kubuntu website still only gives me 2.0.1.23:55
Epicstrity23:55
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Silentstrity23:56
Huntzdaskreech: argh its there but its empty23:56
DaSkreechHuntz: Ok use the edit sources in synpatic or adept to remake it23:57
matisseI need a screen shot of "k system setting -> appearance (or something like that) -> fonts" from a user who didn't change the standards there (and if possible using kde3)23:57
matisseCan somebody upload a screen shot to  http://imageshack.us/  or somewhere else ?23:58
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