[00:00] <thomasdelbeke> ok so i probably screwed it:
[00:00] <thomasdelbeke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121250/
[00:01] <thomasdelbeke> can anyone tell me what this is (?): xml.sax._exceptions.SAXParseException: file:///usr/share/xml/gnustep/gsdoc-1_0_0.dtd:41:0: syntax error
[00:01] <thomasdelbeke> Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[00:01] <thomasdelbeke> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[00:04] <jcastro> paguilera: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522483
[00:04] <jcastro> related maybe?
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> charlie-tca: so, if a bug is linked to an upstream bug, then logically, the dups should be linked the the same upstream bug? or is that redundant?
[00:06] <cprofitt> hey Rocket2DMn
[00:07] <paguilera> jcastro: That does look related, but that seems to be more of a discussion about browser preference.  What we were able to reproduce in the bug description seems to be more of a problem with the actual help files not being coded correctly to point to the proper page (potentially leading to the error messages that are raised in the bug description and in some of the comments of the Gnome bug).
[00:07] <Rocket2DMn> hey cprofitt did you rock the bugjam today?
[00:07] <jcastro> paguilera: I would do a search on the upstream bugzilla (I did that, that's the only bug it returned), and then file it in the upstream bugzilla and then link it
[00:08] <paguilera> jcastro: Actually, what you sent me for a link led me to the one we need.  It's found here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158867
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> jcastro: should dups be linked upstream as well? or is that redundant?
[00:08] <paguilera> yeah, that's the one.
[00:08] <jcastro> it's redundant
[00:08] <jcastro> paguilera: ok, link it to the lp bug
[00:08] <andresmujica> odd-rationale, jcastro: the bug #299188 should be marked as dupe from the odd-rationale bug
[00:09] <jcastro> paguilera: "Also affects" or something like that and then paste the URL, I can't load any lp pages at the moment so I am useless. :-/
[00:09] <andresmujica> read the description, is the same bug, and as the odd's one is already reported upstream it should be the master
[00:09] <jcastro> andresmujica: lp is down for me. :-/
[00:09] <jcastro> but yeah you're correct
[00:10] <paguilera> Already trying to do that.  LP is running very slow for us over here as well.
[00:10] <paguilera> Rocket2DMn: cprofitt isn't trying to ignore you.  He's leading our bug jam here.
[00:10] <jcastro> paguilera: in the meantime add your team here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Events
[00:10] <jcastro> so you can get in on the stats
[00:11] <Rocket2DMn> paguilera, i know, i just got back from my bugjam
[00:11] <paguilera> jcastro: I'm going to let cprofitt handle that since he's the one in charge over here.  He's just trying to walk us through a bug jam.  It's the first one for most of us here.
[00:11] <Rocket2DMn> paguilera, i taught cprofitt everything he knows :)
[00:11]  * cprofitt waves
[00:11] <cprofitt> I was taking pictures..
[00:12] <cprofitt> Rocket2DMn, we are still going in the bug jam -- 4pm to 9pm GMT-5
[00:12] <robbmunson> Awesome, we got BT doing some bug jamming ;)
[00:12] <hollman> http://giss.tv:8000/Nicktstreaming.ogg
[00:12] <Rocket2DMn> ah cprofitt , we did 12-6 EST
[00:12] <hollman> http://giss.tv:8000/Nicktstreaming.ogg
[00:12] <cprofitt> what happened to the old page jcastro
[00:12] <hollman> Ubuntu-co on streaming on the UGBJ
[00:13] <cprofitt> we were listed on that one
[00:16] <andresmujica> odd-rationale: mark bug #332597 as dupe from the bug #286050 first
[00:16] <slick666> can someone tell me or point me to a link to make a bug report to a feature request/wishlist
[00:20] <andresmujica> slick66: wishlist are assigned by bug control members. so feel free to report your bug, and then let us know about the bug number and someone should mark it as wishlist
[00:20] <WastePotato> hollman: Who are the people in that stream?
[00:21] <andresmujica> wastepotato:  the Colombian LoCo team!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam/GlobalBugJam
[00:21] <andresmujica> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-co
[00:22] <cprofitt> the people are on are on caffeine run
[00:22] <cprofitt> they will be back soon
[00:22] <cprofitt_bug_jam> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-tech-guy-at-work
[00:22] <cprofitt_bug_jam> that is our stream
[00:23] <cprofitt_bug_jam> people are on a caffeine run
[00:23] <cprofitt> yeah... ustream is not great for quality
[00:23] <cprofitt> are there any better ones?
[00:25] <penguin42> guys on #launchpad are lookng at timeouts/errors
[00:25] <cprofitt> updated that page with our information
[00:25] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Events
[00:26] <slick666> Ok guys bug 332355 should probably be assigned a wishlist status. Could someone take a look?
[00:26] <chrisccoulson> slick666 - that bug would be better handled upstream. if you forward that to the Gnome bugzilla, I'll set it to wishlist for you:)
[00:27] <hollman> WastePotato, Ubuntu Colombia :D in the GBJ :D
[00:28] <WastePotato> I see...
[00:28] <hollman> we are playing with a guitar hero and drink some beers
[00:28] <hollman> and triagering some bugs :P
[00:30] <emma> guys something weird hapened in the 5-a-day stats
[00:31] <jjesse> that france passed michigan?
[00:31] <slick666> chrisccoulson - how would I forward that to the Gnome bugzilla
[00:31] <jjesse> or was that not the wired ing
[00:31] <emma> This was a half hour ago -- 1gbj-michigan-0902218
[00:32] <emma> 1	gbj-michigan-0902	218
[00:32] <emma> 2	gbj-UK-0902	172
[00:32] <emma> 3	gbj-fr-0902	151
[00:32] <chrisccoulson> slick666 - you can report the bug here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ Once you've done that, you can link the upstream bug in launchpad
[00:32] <jjesse> hrmm can't open launchpad
[00:32] <emma> This is now:
[00:32] <emma> 1	gbj-fr-0902	452
[00:32] <emma> 2	gbj-michigan-0902	436
[00:32] <wgrant> jjesse: Just try again a few times. People are being awoken to fix it.
[00:33] <emma> How did it go from 218 to 436 in a half hour?
[00:33] <jjesse> i feel bad for that, wonder what type of stats we will get from the team about load durning the jam :)
[00:34] <d-b> stats -> "team that ddosed the site the most" ?
[00:34] <emma> Im concerned about the integrity of the stats.
[00:34] <jjesse> d-b that would be ubuntu-us-mi :)
[00:34] <WastePotato> d-b: Lawl.
[00:35] <maco> it was *not* dc's jam. our jam was only 7 people.
[00:35] <d-b> damn thos mi.
[00:36] <emma> I don't think people understand what Im trying to say.
[00:36] <duanedesign> I kind of like the new stats we have now done 208 woohoo
[00:36] <emma> there is something wrong with the stats, are they dependable?
[00:36] <jjesse> jorge told me they were coming from the bug mail?
[00:37] <duanedesign> not at the moment. we have only done about half that many
[00:37] <emma> duanedesign: you are a one man team, did you actualy go from 104 to 208 ?
[00:37] <emma> So there is something wrong here.
[00:37] <duanedesign> yep
[00:38] <andresmujica> ok, back to bugs
[00:38] <d-b> emma: the stats, who cares about
[00:38] <emma> I do :)
[00:39] <emma> Of course Im also happy we are all making a contribution.
[00:40] <duanedesign> emma: actually I counted mine, I have actually only done aprox. 55 give or take a few
[00:41] <jjesse> my bug mail folder shows 2661 unread messages from today so i know a lot of bugs are being touched
[00:41] <emma> duanedesign: something is screwy here. I am happy thatit's all about Ubuntu but part of the fun is the competition aspect and if you change the score board in the middle of the game, that is demotivating.
[00:41] <d-b> great another one of these "random" crashes involving leaving the computer
[00:42] <Odd-rationale> i think dholbach just makes the stats up... :P
[00:42] <emma> duanedesign: this morning when we woke up and saw your score we were impressed!
[00:42] <jjesse> chceck with jcastro, he knows how dholbach does them
[00:42] <jjesse> jcastro ping?
[00:42] <slick666> chrisccoulson - I got the bug ‎reported to Gnome, how can I link this to launchpad?
[00:44] <d-b> slick666: you add it ... slick666 whats the bug ?
[00:44] <cprofitt> some pics from our event (which is still going) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/20090221
[00:44] <andresmujica> slilck666:  click on also affects project, and paste the url upstream report
[00:44] <slick666> 572700
[00:44] <chrisccoulson> normally, you would click on the "Also affects project" button, and then enter the upstream bug URL. But somebody already added an upstream task, just without the link. If you click on the little arrow to the left of the "Empathy" task (not "empathy (Ubuntu)", there is a box to paste in the URL
[00:44] <slick666> I pretty much copied the report from launchpad
[00:46] <hollman> we change the channel
[00:46] <hollman> http://giss.tv:8000/ubuntu-co.ogg
[00:47] <slick666> do I change the status
[00:47] <slick666> ?
[00:47] <chrisccoulson> you can set the status of the ubuntu task to confirmed
[00:47] <andresmujica> slick666: at the upstream task? is not necessary... it will get automatically updated
[00:48] <hollman> :( lauchpad are :E
[00:48] <duanedesign> does overwhelming the launchpad server(s) mean the global bug jam was a success
[00:48] <duanedesign> :)
[00:49] <andresmujica> duanedesign: ooohhh yeeeaaaa!!!
[00:49] <jjesse> duanedesign: i think so
[00:49] <slick666> ok, could someone check 332355 to make sure I got the upstream stuff correct?
[00:49] <jjesse> it must be the database that is having problems
[00:49] <jjesse> bug 332355
[00:49] <jjesse> edge is having the same problems
[00:49] <jjesse> slick666 looks  correct to me
[00:49] <hollman> new chanel
[00:50] <jjesse> hollman what are you talking about?
[00:50] <hollman> http://giss.tv:8000/ubuntu-co.ogg
[00:50] <slick666> ty guys
[00:50] <hollman> jjesse, http://giss.tv:8000/ubuntu-co.ogg
[00:51] <emma> I cry foul. gbj-fr-0902 is now at 903 since the last time I mentioned it 15 minutes ago and they were at 452
[00:51] <jjesse> emma i agree the stats page is messed up
[00:51] <jjesse> ping dholbach
[00:51] <jjesse> though he might be in bed?
[00:51] <andresmujica> Odd-rationale:  did you mark the dupes we were talking about a while ago?
[00:51] <emma> jjesse: yeah not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and at the end of the day it's all good for Ubuntu :)
[00:51] <Nafallo> duanedesign: I'd be surprised if that's the issue.
[00:52] <andresmujica> dholbach: about 4:00
[00:52] <Nafallo> emma: I'd say the stats page is wedged.
[00:52] <jjesse> emma i agree, i am just curious about how many bugs are actually delt with
[00:52] <emma> jjesse: I feel bad for those guys in michigan, UK, and club-ubuntu.org who might have been motivated by a friendly competition.
[00:52] <jjesse> i know nixternal linked about 300 upstream bugs today or something close to it
[00:53] <jjesse> emma and some of us michigan guys are jamming remotley due to weather
[00:53]  * d-b thinks that a more generic kernel should be included for people to test on -> re some of the random lock ups
[00:54] <emma> ive done a lot of bugs today im sort of burnt out. It might reveal an unattractive competitive streak in my nature, but I was only still fighting on to try to get our team on top. :)
[00:54] <emma> So I'm going to take a break now and eat dinner, see you all :)
[00:54] <jjesse> emma: i'm enjoying a nice glass of wine while i triage bugs
[00:54] <jjesse> makes things better
[00:55] <andresmujica> hmm nixternal 300 bugs?  well with that kind of help:  http://blog.nixternal.com/2009.02.21/ubuntu-chicago-gbj-5-hours-into-it/
[00:55] <jjesse> sorry i lied it was 100 upstream bugs for nixternal
[00:55] <jjesse> got the number wrong
[00:55] <d-b> can some one mark https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/321425 as a wishlist item ?
[00:56] <nixternal> still have about 300 on my todo list, but the competition part is done for me
[00:56] <jjesse> i'll do it if i can get to launchpad
[00:56] <nixternal> heh
[00:56] <d-b> rofl at ubottu
[00:56] <jjesse> all my launchpad pages are sitting there just spinning
[00:56] <d-b> what's the ubuntu kernel package called ?
[00:57] <charlie-tca> d-b: depends on which version of Ubuntu
[00:57] <d-b> 8.10 ?
[00:57] <charlie-tca> linux
[00:57] <d-b> just 'linux' ?
[00:58] <charlie-tca> yes, just 'linux'
[00:58] <WastePotato> I think it's just "linux"
[00:58] <WastePotato> chadwik: >_>
[00:58] <WastePotato> Er. charlie-tca.
[00:58] <d-b> so there is no diff better generic / blah on launchpad ?
[00:58] <charlie-tca> kernel is kernel for bugs
[00:58] <d-b> shame as you might have been able to pick up dodgy makes if that could be a problem. wait so i mark it as kernel or linux ?
[00:58] <jjesse> sorry whoever asked me to look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/321425 i can't get launchpad to load it
[00:59] <andresmujica> jjesse, nxiternal : i'll do it if i can have one of those caffeine + 7% alcohol cans ;)
[00:59] <charlie-tca> linux is the kernel
[00:59] <d-b> charlie-tca: i know
[00:59] <d-b> you just said "kernel is kernel for bugs"
[00:59] <charlie-tca> mark source as 'linux'
[00:59]  * d-b is trying ... launchpad is failing
[01:00] <charlie-tca> jjesse: I have it up, what am I doing with it
[01:00] <jjesse> maring it as wishlist
[01:00] <jjesse> someone in this channel suggested to do that
[01:01] <charlie-tca> Wish they had commented on it.
[01:02] <jjesse> d-b is there a reason to mark that bug as wishlist?
[01:02] <jjesse> d-b https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/321425
[01:02] <d-b> jjesse: well is it anything else ?
[01:02] <charlie-tca> bug 321425 wishlist done
[01:02] <jjesse> d-b see charlie-tca comment i cant get that bug opened in lp
[01:02] <d-b> or should be marked as invalid -> pending more information about these instant on oses / access to them
[01:03] <charlie-tca> It isn't easy getting through
[01:03] <charlie-tca> d-b: done
[01:04] <d-b> i personally am interested to know if you can use the arm and the intel processor at the same time ^^
[01:10] <jjesse> bugs against the live cd would be against wahat package/
[01:11] <andresmujica> casper
[01:11] <jjesse> thanks andresmujica
[01:17] <Yasumoto> Hey guys, where's the five-a-day install link? (is it in the default repos?)\
[01:17] <snap-l> Yasumoto: You don't need the 5-a-day anymore
[01:17] <duanedesign> no
[01:17] <snap-l> It's been deprecated
[01:18] <andresmujica> yasumoto: just add yourself to the 5-a-day-participants team at LP
[01:18] <snap-l> Yasumoto: Just join this group instead: https://launchpad.net/~5-a-day-participants
[01:20] <Yasumoto> oh, no way? wow, I am so out of the loop
[01:20] <Odd-rationale> andresmujica: yes i did... that was before is was told that it was redundant...
[01:21] <andresmujica> don't worry if you've got the 5-a-day applet it would count...
[01:21] <andresmujica> odd-rationale: ahh ok , but now they're marked fine!!
[01:21] <andresmujica> great
[01:27] <hollman> hey all
[01:27] <hollman> ubuntu-co on GBJ http://picasaweb.google.com/noticias.ubuntu.colombia/UbuntuCoGlobalBugJam#
[01:28] <duanedesign> can someone take a look at Bug #75028 it was reported 2 years ago and is still an issue for the user who posted it. Thank You!
[01:31] <snap-l> Has the user tried renaming the S20quagga file to S19quagga, and does that work for him / her?
[01:32] <duanedesign> I will suggest it. thank you
[01:34] <snap-l> Looks like the big issue is a good number of init scripts are labeled S20, so it's just a matter of who has alphabetic priority.
[01:34] <snap-l> Is launchpad taking a beating for anyone else?
[01:35] <Nafallo> snap-l: yes
[01:35] <snap-l> I'm getting "please try again errors"
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> yep. too many bug jams...
[01:36] <duanedesign> yep, they are aware of it over on #launchpad and are trying to fix it
[01:36] <snap-l> kk
[01:39] <andresmujica> hmm pizza at least!!!!
[01:42] <jjesse> i blame those guys from #ubuntu-us-mi
[01:42] <snap-l> Yeah, they're bastards. :)
[01:43] <jjesse> wow those stats are way messed up :)
[01:44] <jjesse> interseting downloading cdimages is way slow as well, wonder if there is some relationship between lp and that server?
[01:48] <duanedesign> on # launchpad it says intermittent issues on both production and edge - being worked on. Not sure what production and edge are?
[01:50] <jjesse> edge is the testing serverr for launchpad
[01:50] <jjesse> production would be the production launchpad server
[01:50] <andresmujica> edge uses the "beta" software version
[01:55] <duanedesign> ahh. I knew someone in here would know:)
[01:58] <jjesse> duanedesign: if you want to beta test launchpad then you can be on edge
[02:00] <shura> n
[02:00] <shura> no
[02:00] <shura> exit
[02:00] <shura> die
[02:00] <shura> q
[02:00] <shura> exit
[02:00] <shura> quit
[02:00] <shura> quit
[02:03] <jjesse> nice
[02:06] <snap-l> shura: Bad command or filename
[02:06] <jjesse> hrmm should i be reporting bugs or just fixing bugs :)
[02:06] <snap-l> Go with the flow, maaaan.
[02:28] <jjesse> a bug with the touchpad is against synaptic?
[02:38] <andresmujica> jjese: xinput-xorg-touchpad something loike pada
[02:38] <andresmujica> like that
[02:39] <wgrant> jjesse: xfree86-driver-synaptics.
[02:39] <wgrant> synaptic is the package manager.
[02:39] <wgrant> Actually, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is probably better now.
[02:39] <andresmujica> ohh well that beer is affecting me :)
[02:41] <hollman> juaaaaaa jajajajaj
[02:41] <hollman> :-o
[02:41] <jjesse> ok changing it
[02:42] <jjesse> if i can get back to lp
[02:51] <andresmujica> (21:48:43) lifeless:
[02:51] <andresmujica> should be fixed soon
[02:51] <andresmujica> (21:48:56) lifeless:
[02:51] <andresmujica> we've identified a concrete issue
[02:51] <andresmujica> at #launchpad
[02:51] <andresmujica> get ready.. we need to take it down again
[02:53] <lifeless> andresmujica: I don't know if lp will need to be taken down to fix this or not; was just reporting progress.
[02:56] <darkhole> See you guys
[03:02] <d-b> lifeless: "fsync on a file" ? (just kidding)
[03:06] <emma> I can imagine sort of getting into this
[03:07] <emma> it would be cool if I understood ubuntu so well that it was really easy :)
[03:07] <emma> working with bugs, I think, would help a person learn Linux to a deeper level though.
[03:10] <d-b> can some one take a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/312296 -> i don't know how to mark it the guy fixed it himself ...
[03:26] <andresmujica> boys i want to assign a package to gnome-network is at the combo list, but when i choose LP throughs and error u'Package gnome-network not published in Ubuntu'
[03:34] <cprofitt> hello all
[03:34] <Ryan52> andresmujica: there isn't a package called that..
[03:34] <cprofitt> bug jam went well... I think we have five new people to do bug work now...
[03:34] <cprofitt> and we want to plan more as a LoCo
[03:35] <andresmujica> ryan52.. yeap wgrant help me found the one!!
[03:37] <cprofitt> how is everyone else's bug jam going?
[03:37] <snap-l> Went well for Michigan
[03:38] <greg-g> yeah, check out the stories page and the blog posts/pictures from Michigan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/Stories
[03:39] <cprofitt> good night to everyone still going tonight... I will be back to do some bugs tomorrow
[03:40] <hollman> bug #332722
[03:40] <hollman> wishlist
[03:42] <greg-g> hollman: done
[03:42] <hollman> greg-g, ok
[03:52] <_stink_> bug that's still new/undecided/nobody, but in comments it's present in dapper but not feisty.  what are we doing for bugs that seem to be in dapper but have been fixed for a while in newer releases?
[03:52] <_stink_> bug #86385
[03:52] <greg-g> _stink_: if it is something really critical, you can do a backport request (if it doesn't break other things/isn't too complicated, like a lot of new dependencies). otherwise, mark as fix released
[03:52] <_stink_> greg-g: you type fast! :P
[03:52] <greg-g> :P
[04:09] <andresmujica> which package is responsible of update the fstab file with the hdd's uuid
[04:13] <hollman> bug #322957
[04:18] <hollman> bug #322957
[04:18] <hollman> wishlist
[04:23] <_stink_> what's the package name i should use for a bug that generically applies to the ubuntu installer?
[04:23] <andresmujica> casper
[04:24] <_stink_> thanks!
[04:35] <maco> andresmujica: figured out what's up. i think i mentioned plasma's not starting on my computer. i thought that would also mean i lack multiple desktops. apparently multiple desktops are still there, so firefox was in the other desktop and without plasma i couldn't see the switcher which would show where windows are open
[04:35] <andresmujica> oggh i can't believe it...
[04:36] <dtchen> _stink_: / andresmujica: to clarify, the desktop/live installer -> ubiquity, the alternate installer -> debian-installer, the booting of the desktop/live environment -> casper
[04:36] <andresmujica> dtchen: thanks a lot for that i'm gonna post it!! i need it!
[04:38] <andresmujica> maco: well, at least you've missed the lp laaaaaaaaaaggg .... ;)
[04:38] <maco> andresmujica: oh, no, i saw it
[04:38] <maco> i was just using konqueror instead of firefox
[04:39] <andresmujica> hehee yeap..
[04:43] <hollman> bug #323399
[04:43] <hollman> what is this ?
[04:45] <maco> er...i didn't know arabic had the letter X...
[04:45] <maco> how *do* shortcuts like that get handled in non-latin charsets?
[04:45] <dtchen> hollman: triaged, thanks
[04:45] <hollman> dtchen, ok
[04:46] <dtchen> hollman: namely, it's not immediately clear where the reporter is experiencing the symptoms, so it's not really possible to assign a good affected source package. all we can do is ask for more information (and set the Status appropriately). the first comment in that bug report really should be ignored.
[04:58] <darkhole> andremujica: http://mail.google.com/mail/?zx=pzco6daalzsq&shva=1#search/Conifuraci%C3%B3n+m%C3%B3dem+usb+tigo
[05:10] <jedijf> wishlist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332371
[05:12] <jedijf> wishlist https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332368
[05:13] <wgrant> jedijf: There's little point doing that once they're Invalid.
[05:20] <jedijf> wgrant: i flipped it back so it could be considered for wishlist
[05:20] <jedijf> both of them -
[05:20] <wgrant> jedijf: Also, that sort of thing should *not* be on Brainstorm.
[05:20] <jedijf> so invalid was right
[05:21] <wgrant> No.
[05:21] <wgrant> Triaged/Wishlist, I suspect.
[05:21] <jedijf> ok then wishlist it
[05:26] <wgrant> I Lowed them, actually.
[05:40] <hollman> bug #304215
[05:40] <hollman> wishlist
[05:45] <orblivion-laptop> Is it appropriate to ask a long question about dealing with bug reports here, or do you try to keep to very short to-the-point business here?
[05:45] <wgrant> orblivion-laptop: It's quiet enough; go ahead.
[05:48] <orblivion-laptop> There are multiple segfault bug reports for tilda, and there are sometimes multiple unrelated bugs within each bug report, described by people who chime in. And often these bugs are the same as some of the ones described in different reports.
[05:48] <orblivion-laptop> Bottom line, if bugs A and B are described in report 1, and B and C in report 2, is it possible for someone (perhaps only ones with special privelages) to move the comments to appropriate bug reports?
[05:49] <andresmujica> bug #303522 can be marked as wishlist pls?
[05:50] <orblivion-laptop> or else, what do you recommend? if people are chiming in on a "tilda segfault" bug report, but I believe it's an segfault unrelated to the initial posting, should I file a new report, and somehow reference the various comments in different reports that are in fact the same thing?
[05:51] <andresmujica> i'd love to have that kind of function.. not necessarily a dupe but related to, even the same fix could solve both or at least one fix is needed to solve the other one.
[05:52] <andresmujica> probably you can marked them as dupes, and grouping them according to the similiraties.
[05:52] <andresmujica> also you'll want to edit the description explained that this masterbug is related to this segfault etc etc, so the people can identify them easily
[05:52]  * andresmujica thinks..
[05:53] <orblivion-laptop> My wording might be confusing, but for example bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tilda/+bug/92264 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tilda/+bug/111571 both have people chiming in saying "hey yeah, me too! I get a segfault on amd64" when it seems to me that a) these are the same problem and b) they're both unrelated to the initial posted bug
[05:57] <andresmujica> ahh now i've got it.
[05:58] <andresmujica> i'll take one of them as the a) problem, and the other one would state at the description which bug is it, and ask the reporters to open new bugs.  If you've got the time, maybe you can look for bugs related to the reported problems and redirect the people to them
[06:00] <andresmujica> also it seems that Aron was working on it but then lost the track of it..
[06:03] <orblivion-laptop> hmm, that's a thought. so, I could post saying "This issue is unrelated" and then ask the people who commented on the unrelated issue to open new bugs?
[06:03] <orblivion-laptop> (sorry if I'm missing something you're saying, I'm VERY new to this)
[06:03] <orblivion-laptop> (at least on Launchpad)
[06:04] <andresmujica> yeap!
[06:04] <andresmujica> that should do it!
[06:05] <orblivion-laptop> cool, thanks a lot for your help, and sorry for the interruption of business as usual. carry on then...
[06:08] <darkhole> 4771!!! from France?? ... how can they make this!! Any kind of script?
[06:08] <darkhole> or something?
[06:10] <dantalizing> they're botting
[06:10] <dantalizing> kick 'em
[06:11] <andresmujica> heeh
[06:11] <andresmujica> we're making beerbugs? is that valid?
[06:14] <hollman> bye all
[06:15] <darkhole> jeje, see you folks!!!
[06:16] <darkhole> Great Jam, see you latter :)
[07:14] <robbmunson1> what happened to the 5-a-day-applet? does it still exist?
[07:18] <robbmunson1> nevermind, i found it :)
[08:48] <Ryan52> bug 315791
[10:40] <YoBoY> hi
[10:40] <nishiki> yo
[12:36] <penguin42> how do you categorise a bug where he is trying to install 8.04 on a machine but has a device driver problem but works with intrepid?
[12:36] <penguin42> I guess he wants LTS to work
[12:42] <xyll> Hi, I'm new here. I've been investigating a bug in vim (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/291373) and am wondering what's next - should I report this to debian?
[12:43] <penguin42> hmm that doesn't happen to me- hmm but I'm on plain vim rather than vim-gtk
[12:43] <xyll> yes, seems to happen only in vim-gnome and vim-gtk
[12:44] <penguin42> do the vim guys have their own bug tracker?
[12:45] <ccm> probably a flat file in vim :)
[12:45] <xyll> :)
[12:45] <xyll> I believe you're just suppost to send a mail with the report somewhere
[12:46] <xyll> but as this affects debian as well, wouldn't the first step be to report it to debian?
[12:47] <mangilimic> penguin42, I'd report that bug against linux. Anyway, let's wait for more suggestions, since I'm not so experienced at triaging bugs.
[12:48] <penguin42> mangilimic: Yeh, I've put the package to linux, I just wondered if there was anything special for LTS stuff
[12:49] <mangilimic> penguin42, maybe you can add [Hardy] at the beginning of the title of the report. However I suspect that nobody will fix that soon...
[12:49] <penguin42> mangilimic: Well you'd hope the LTS means something
[12:52] <mangilimic> penguin42, I hope so.
[12:52] <mangilimic> :)
[12:52]  * penguin42 is a bit surprised there aren't more categories than just 'linux' for driver problems - that must get a lot of stuff associated with it
[13:00] <IntuitiveNipple> penguin42: We used assign to specific kernel version packages but it got too disjointed.
[13:00] <penguin42> IntuitiveNipple: I meant more categories - e.g. usb, video, random crashes, filesystems
[13:00] <penguin42> there seem to be an inifinite number of people with DVD drive quirks
[13:01] <IntuitiveNipple> Well, "linux" means "kernel"
[13:01] <penguin42> yeh, but the kernel is pretty big these days
[13:02] <thekorn> you can use tags to specify a category
[13:03] <penguin42> are there a set of standard tags associated with the kernel?
[13:04] <thekorn> I'm not sure, best to ask in #ubuntu-kernel or check the wiki pages of the kernel team
[13:04] <penguin42> ok, will do
[13:04] <mangilimic> some tags can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[13:08] <penguin42> hmm time for breakfast
[13:26] <mcas> hi
[13:26] <mcas> if there is a problem with packages from ppas the bug is invalid, right?
[13:31] <kirrus> how do you find what package a config file comes from?
[13:33] <james_w> "dpkg -S /etc/foo"
[13:33] <james_w> that will get most
[13:33] <james_w> or "grep <file> /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.conffiles"
[13:35] <kirrus> thanks :)
[13:40] <Rafik> hi all
[13:41] <Rafik> i think i did a mistake on bug 312734. can anyone check with me please ?
[13:43] <Rafik> since ppc-codecs is from medibuntu, i marked it as invalid for ubuntu.. but the issue is that libstdc++5 (universe) isn't available for ppc
[13:49]  * thekorn checks
[13:50] <thekorn> Rafik, yes, it looks like a bug in gcc-3.3
[13:52] <thekorn> but I think it will be marked as won't fix, with a similar argument as in bug 326964
[13:52] <mcas> can anyone help me with this one
[13:52] <mcas> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/332832
[13:52] <mcas> i think it is invalid because kde 4.2 is from ppa
[13:53] <thekorn> mcas, will have a look at this bug in a minute
[13:53] <mcas> k thanks
[13:55] <Rafik> thekorn: thanks
[13:57] <cprofitt> hey
[13:57] <cprofitt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/286050 - what led people to think the bug in gnome-panel on this??
[13:58] <cprofitt> xserver-xorg-input-evdev is where I thought the problem might be... so I am curious
[13:59] <penguin42> cprofitt: I think it was because it only happens when the drop down is there
[13:59] <penguin42> cprofitt: The fact that the events normally get through means it must be getting the events from the keyboard
[14:00] <cprofitt> it also happens when you use the menu on Firefox or right click the desktop to get a menu
[14:00] <cprofitt> It does not happen with my T500 for 'mute' and while my 'mute' key works it does not get the OSD
[14:00] <penguin42> yeh I'm not sure why they say panel, I guess it comes down to what is supposed to receive the events
[14:00] <cprofitt> which I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/299188
[14:01] <cprofitt> I also noted that xev gets no events while those menus are open
[14:01] <penguin42> isn't it that the menus do a 'grab' to get the events ?
[14:02] <cprofitt> could be, but like I said... on my T500 where my 'mute' button gets no OSD - the mute works even if menus have focus
[14:02] <cprofitt> mute does not work on the T42 which does get OSD for 'mute'
[14:02] <thekorn> mcas, what make you think that this package is from a PPA?
[14:03] <cprofitt> penguin42, that is what led me to 'guess' xserver-xorg-input-evdev
[14:03] <thekorn> mcas, looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+publishinghistory it looks like a already superseeded version from backports
[14:03] <cprofitt> something appears to be 'grabbing' the input... but only if the functions keys are recognized and get OSD
[14:04] <penguin42> cprofitt: I don't know enough about how that stuff works
[14:04] <cprofitt> yeah me either penguin42
[14:05] <cprofitt> that is why I was curious...
[14:05] <penguin42> but I'd have been surprised if it was the Xserver if it actually got events but the difference was the state of other applications
[14:06] <cprofitt> what package handles the OSD?
[14:07] <penguin42> not sure
[14:21] <penguin42> anyone know who to prod to minor changes to gnome themes? (the ubuntu added ones)
[14:27] <penguin42> wow - so many bugs that have a corrupted fileystem tar - I guess bad ram or full discs
[14:32] <Odd-rationale> some one is making those stats up...
[14:32] <Odd-rationale> :P
[14:33] <penguin42> yeh the French seem to have something 'odd' going on
[14:38] <mcas> thekorn: sorry my mistake
[15:50] <jedijf> wish list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280298
[16:00] <ianto> Just to check, regarding bugs.launchpad.net, are PPAs allowed to be reported as a bug?
[16:00] <ianto> apps in PPAs
[16:04] <BUGabundo1> ianto: depends
[16:04] <BUGabundo1> most of the times, if there is a LP bug team for it, then it should be filed on the PPA bug tracker
[16:04] <BUGabundo1> on other cases some devs that maintain both PPA and archive don't care, as long as I mention the versions
[16:05] <BUGabundo1> other refuse to have it on LP (like mozilla team, who rather have bugs for FF3.1 or 3.2 on ML or #)
[16:05] <xhochy> Could someone please set #327258 importance to 'whishlist'? (Feature request about update-manager's GUI)
[16:07] <chrisccoulson> bug 327258
[16:08] <chrisccoulson> xhochy - done
[16:08] <emma> I'm not so sure about this --- http://daniel.holba.ch/five-a-day-stats/
[16:09] <jedijf> wish list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/325131
[16:09] <penguin42> emma: Indeed there's something odd there
[16:09] <chrisccoulson> someone has been busy ;)
[16:09] <emma> The French don't waste any time!
[16:10] <chrisccoulson> it seems that way
[16:11] <chrisccoulson> i think it must be wrong though;)
[16:11] <chrisccoulson> are there even that many open bugs on lp?
[16:12]  * penguin42 wishes there was a mechanism for commenting as you marked something as a dupe
[16:13] <chrisccoulson> penguin42 - open a bug report against launchpad. that would be a useful feature - much like being able to add comments when you convert a bug report to a question
[16:15] <BUGabundo1> penguin42: what happens when you mark it as dupe via email?
[16:15] <BUGabundo1> does it use 2 messages?
[16:15] <penguin42> BUGabundo1: Don't know - I very rarely use the mail interface
[16:15] <BUGabundo1> ahh
[16:15] <BUGabundo1> I use it a lot
[16:15] <ianto> emma: They did that between 1am & 1pm local time in France!
[16:15] <BUGabundo1> just never use it to mark as dupe
[16:16] <emma> ianto: The french team is a model of efficiency.
[16:16] <ianto> They can't sleep
[16:17] <penguin42> hmm there is already a bug for it malone #174951
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> penguin42 - good spot
[16:19] <penguin42> chrisccoulson: Well I thought I'd better check; having your bug about duping marked as a dupe would be embarrassing
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> well, not really. some older reports are difficult to find and it can be hard working out what to search for:)
[16:20] <penguin42> true
[16:23] <BUGabundo1> if lp search fails, I use google
[16:23] <BUGabundo1> it doesn't care about state or dupe, so it finds more stuff
[16:24] <BUGabundo1> it helps a lot
[16:24] <penguin42> yeh; especially since lp can't search attachments which sucks
[16:29] <BUGabundo1> you guys are killing LP
[16:29] <BUGabundo1>  Generated Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:28:58 GMT by yangmei.canonical.com (squid/2.6.STABLE18)
[16:33] <penguin42> BUGabundo1: It's better than it was last night - launchpad was really struggling
[16:36] <BUGabundo1> I can't open it right now
[16:36] <BUGabundo1> trying to get the release schedul of LP link :(
[16:37] <BUGabundo1> got it https://dev.launchpad.net/Releases/2009Calendar
[16:41] <BUGabundo1> anyone knows what packages has the orthographic corrector on kmail? mine is acting up (I guess since friday updates)
[16:46] <penguin42> so many errors assigned to individual packages that are obviously bad cdrom problems (failed in buffer_read Input/output error' during dpkg
[16:51] <BUGabundo1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aspell/+bug/332940
[16:51] <BUGabundo1> can some bug triager take a look ?
[16:51] <BUGabundo1> thanks
[16:52] <BUGabundo1> penguin42: a quick search for that and mass mark as dupe!
[16:55] <penguin42> BUGabundo1: Problem is you have to search the attachments
[16:55] <BUGabundo1> API then?
[16:55]  * BUGabundo1 has to spend some time with some one experienced on the LP API to learn a bit more on how to use it
[16:55] <penguin42> BUGabundo1: I guess so, but I don't fancy frobbing with launchpad API, and I bet today is not the day to do heavy launchpad queries
[16:56]  * BUGabundo1 heads to #LP
[17:06] <ccm> sio/win 2
[17:17] <jedijf> wc
[17:26] <penguin42> ooh french numbers have been fixed
[17:32] <andresmujica> when is the oficially end time of the event?  00:00 UTC?
[17:33] <penguin42> the bugs in 'linux' are like 30% suspend/resume, 10% sound, 10% backlight keys
[17:34] <BUGabundo> nice stats penguin42
[17:34] <BUGabundo> the kernel bugs are "fixed" asking user to (enable and) test backport kernel
[17:34] <andresmujica> penguin42: are published those ones?
[17:34] <penguin42> those are finger in the air
[17:35] <BUGabundo> sound are triage asking for alsa .sh info
[17:37] <andresmujica> the best stat is this one: 695 bugs without a package assigned at this point.    The 19th those were about ~1500 !!!!
[17:41] <BUGabundo> still a long way to go
[17:41] <BUGabundo> I remember reading that EVEN IF LP stop accepting new bugs
[17:41] <BUGabundo> it would take 2 years to triage them all
[17:41] <arvind_khadri> i want to help with squishing bugs..
[17:42] <BUGabundo> I have to spend a few hours a go about my sub bugs and see how they are
[17:42] <BUGabundo> many are already fixed or invalid
[17:43] <BUGabundo> I'm on jaunty and some times still get requests for bugs I filed on edgy/feisty
[17:43] <BUGabundo> LOL
[17:43] <arvind_khadri> BUGabundo, how do i get started?
[17:43] <penguin42> Yeh but they're hard to verify if they really got fixed sometimes
[17:45] <BUGabundo> I know
[17:45] <BUGabundo> arvind_khadri: humm wanna help (me) ?
[17:45] <BUGabundo> just browse my list of bugs from older to recente
[17:45] <BUGabundo> eheehe
[17:46] <arvind_khadri> BUGabundo, sure i would love to... but am a totall newbie in this... i have been reporting quite a few..
[17:46] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~bugabundo/?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[17:46]  * penguin42 closes a 'linux' package bug that has a 'gzip: stdout: no space left on device' in the dpkg log - anyone want to guess how many there are?
[17:46] <penguin42> BUGabundo: I find the problem is I tend to change machine every 2 or 3 years or reinstall - and I can't check some old bugs easily - but did they really get fixed?
[17:47] <BUGabundo> on those I set my own as INVALID
[17:47] <jjesse> sometimes i use the fact they no longer exist in the newer version to mark them as fix released, and i state "I don't know which update fixed the bug but it no longer is a problem"
[17:47] <BUGabundo> I can no longer test or am affected by them
[17:47] <BUGabundo> or do it as jjesse.... lol
[17:48] <BUGabundo> depends ...
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> BUGabundo, can i help you out?
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> BUGabundo, am seriously searching for a mentor
[17:50] <BUGabundo> no no... I have no experience on the QA or bug triage team
[17:50] <BUGabundo> I just file A LOT of bugs
[17:51] <BUGabundo> 'cause  I use devel versions
[17:51] <BUGabundo> but if any of you want to close MANY more bugs.... just follow my trail
[17:51] <BUGabundo> eehe
[18:24] <robbmunson> BUGabunto is the reason i still volunteer here lol.
[18:24] <emma> What time does the GBJ end, as far as the stats go?
[18:24] <jjesse_> emma: not sure but did you see that frances stats have been corrected?
[18:24] <robbmunson> 00:00 GMT afaik
[18:25] <emma> jjesse_: yes, that's gotten me more motivated again
[18:36] <jgoguen> should https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/51492 be set to Fix Released, since upstream says it's fixed in Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 and Ubuntu ships 2.0.0.19?
[18:37] <blueyed> jgoguen: probably, yes. Would be nice if you could confirm it being fixed though.
[18:42] <madmartian> what package should bugs with the installer be attached to?
[18:42] <blueyed> arvind_khadri: the wiki pages (e.g. also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day) should help you get started.
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> blueyed, i went through the pages except that one... would you mentor me?
[18:45] <blueyed> arvind_khadri: I can help you out with questions etc, sure. Are you referring to QA/bug triage only, or are you interested in helping out with fixing/packaging?
[18:45] <blueyed> In the latter case, you can always ask in #ubuntu-motu, too - and there's a mentoring program somewhere available.
[18:46] <arvind_khadri> blueyed, bug triaging... i have been doing the QA part for quiet a time and been helping out in #ubuntu too
[18:46] <charlie-tca> madmartian: depends on the installer; ubiquity, debian-installer, casper
[18:47] <blueyed> Great. Then I suggest you just start with it.. :)
[18:47] <madmartian> charlie-tca: this is a jaunty alternate cd
[18:47] <blueyed> arvind_khadri: ^^
[18:48] <arvind_khadri> blueyed, sure... thanks... :) any pointers?
[18:48] <charlie-tca> madmartian: debian-installer
[18:48] <bcurtiswx> hey bugcontrol, bug #332962 pleas set as wishlist.  Thank you :-)
[18:48] <madmartian> charlie-tca: thanks
[18:48] <blueyed> arvind_khadri: the 5-a-day page should have some.
[18:49] <blueyed> arvind_khadri: you may add yourself to the LP team then, too, since stats can be motivating.. :)
[18:49] <arvind_khadri> blueyed, hmmm :) the page for LP ... :D
[18:50] <blueyed> what do you mean? page for LP? - for the team? (it's mentioned in the wiki page I've given you)
[18:52] <charlie-tca> bcurtiswx: done
[18:52] <arvind_khadri> blueyed, oh ok... will take a look now
[18:52] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: thanks
[18:52] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: may i ask why you set as medium and not wishlist?
[18:53] <blueyed> charlie-tca: sry, I've changed the same bug, but to wishlist. IMHO it's a feature and therefore "wishlist", not?
[18:54] <bcurtiswx> blueyed: i agree with you
[18:54] <charlie-tca> It ACCESSIBILITY for the visually impaired
[18:54] <charlie-tca> It is not a feature, but a need to be able to install
[18:54] <charlie-tca> If you can't see, you get to stay with windows?
[18:55] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: my interpretation of the situation (not to start a flamewar), is that if the bug requests something that it not a feature of ubuntu, then it becomes wishlist.
[18:55] <charlie-tca> Or you only should not use Ubuntu because you can't see?
[18:56] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: my interpretation of bugs means problems with currently supported packages in ubuntu
[18:56] <blueyed> charlie-tca: I understand you, but it's a new feature/functionality. It's the same as with adding some game/library: if you need that for something, it's a bug for you, but after all, just a missing feature.
[18:57] <blueyed> charlie-tca: See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[18:58] <charlie-tca> I believe accessibility should not be wishlist because it does tell people they are to wait however long it takes for someone to decide they can do things
[18:58] <charlie-tca> Obviously, you are not handi-capped
[18:58] <blueyed> charlie-tca: that's no argument.. bug importance "wishlist" does not mean it won't get done.
[18:58] <bcurtiswx> charlie-tca: i completely agree that this is a pretty high up topic.  but as triagers this is the best we can do for you
[19:00] <charlie-tca> We need to get that changed then. Even the governments agree that handicapped people should be equals
[19:00] <blueyed> Tagged it as "a11y" at least.
[19:02] <bcurtiswx> blueyed: ty i was just about to suggest that
[19:02] <blueyed> Not much there yet: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=a11y - would make sense to go through all bugs and tag/mark as appropriate some more.
[19:03] <bcurtiswx> yeah i saw
[19:11] <YoBoY> hi
[19:12] <svendev> hi
[19:13] <svendev> andre__:
[19:13] <svendev> andre__: hi
[19:13] <andre__> ahoj
[19:13] <YoBoY> I don't know if the 332813 bug is assigned to the right package, i can reproduce it, but don't know if it's a compiz, applets or gtk problem, need advice :)
[19:13] <andre__> hmm, this wifi is flaky...
[19:16] <blueyed> charlie-tca: btw, do you know how OpenSuse handles it.. are they using a patched grub for that?
[19:17] <charlie-tca> I don't know.
[19:44] <jgoguen> bugs in Thunderbird which are fixed upstream in Thunderbird 3 but are not going to be fixed in Thunderbird 2, they should be left as Confirmed?
[19:53] <kirrus> jgoguen, I think they should be changed to "Won't Fix"
[19:53] <jgoguen> OK, I'll do that with a comment that they're fixed in the Thunderbird 3 betas
[20:01] <cprofitt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/286050
[20:02] <cprofitt> This was marked as a non-bug... would this then be a feature request? Also, since the behavior was not consistent I think Sebastien may be incorrect
[20:08] <bcurtiswx> cprofitt: since the bug report is to discuss issues about that bug.  Your best bet is probably to discuss your thought about that bug in the launchpad page.
[20:08] <cprofitt> that is what I did...
[20:08] <cprofitt> I updated it...
[20:09] <cprofitt> just not sure it is a good idea to tell a Canonical employee he is wrong... despite the fact that he is
[20:09] <bcurtiswx> no, i wouldn't say hes wrong
[20:09] <bcurtiswx> thats really harsh,
[20:09] <bcurtiswx> just politely argue your point.. im sure Seb will discuss his thoughts
[20:10] <cprofitt> That is harsh... but I am a bit blunt...
[20:10] <cprofitt> I did not say that in my changing of the bug, but... if the behavior is inconsistent I would not say it is a non-bug
[20:11] <cprofitt> My bug-jam team thought the same thing until we saw the inconsistent behavior
[20:12] <bcurtiswx> cprofitt: I can clearly see both sides of this discussion.  I think its best to comment like you have and wait for a response to continue the discussion.
[20:12] <cprofitt> so I really vote for there is a bug -- being a wishlist or a bug...
[20:12] <cprofitt> not an issue bcurtiswx - I thought perhaps I could learn in here too
[20:13] <bcurtiswx> cproffit: awesome.  im learning too
[20:13] <bcurtiswx> cprofitt: btw how's things in ROC.. i grew up there in greece
[20:14] <cprofitt> Things are good in ROC..
[20:14] <cprofitt> it is the hub of Linux for NYS
[20:14] <bcurtiswx> awesome to hear, is your LoCo at a colllege?
[20:14] <cprofitt> we are growing Syracuse and Potsdam... but NYC is dead from all appearances
[20:15] <cprofitt> bcurtiswx, our LoCo is spread all across the state...
[20:15] <bcurtiswx> ah, where do you meet?
[20:15] <cprofitt> but at ROC when we do Ubuntu LoCo sponsored events it has been at a Barnes and Noble
[20:15] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events
[20:15] <cprofitt> The other groups we work with meet downtown and at RIT
[20:15] <cprofitt> we work with LUGOR and RCSI Linux SIG
[20:16] <bcurtiswx> ah RIT
[20:16] <cprofitt> yeah RIT
[20:17] <cprofitt> that is where we will hold our May install fest
[20:17] <bcurtiswx> awesome
[20:18] <cprofitt> Do you know professor Anderson?
[20:18] <cprofitt> he is the Lugor sponsor
[20:19] <bcurtiswx> nope
[20:20] <nhandler> Does 5-a-day use the Date column on the events page for the GBJ?
[20:22] <cprofitt> is jorge here?
[20:27] <robbmunson> nhandler: not sure...
[21:08] <lfaraone> Hi, how do I offer to *myself* as a mentor for a bug? The page only looks like it allows teams.
[21:10] <zenlinuxNH> What's the best way to search for bugs in Hardy?
[21:13] <zenlinuxNH> nm, I was having trouble finding the advanced search option
[21:13] <zenlinuxNH> found it now
[21:47] <zenlinuxNH> Am I correct to assume this bug should be marked as wishlist? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gthumb/+bug/333029
[22:15] <thehook> I think I have found a bug, but I cant seem to find anything in the logs.. I have made a minimal installation, installed xorg and xfce4, and when I "startx" it will load and hang, one time it loaded the desktop and i right-clicked and got the menu and while hovering the menu it got really distorted and the computer hang again.. and when I install gdm and types in my username the e and a characters are really weird looking like japanese signs or s
[22:15] <thehook> omething.. any ideas?
[22:23] <chrisccoulson> zenlinuxNH - that gthumb bug should be low importance IMO. it's definately a bug that it opens at 1:1 zoom level each time you open it
[23:31] <hollman> bug #292330
[23:31] <hollman> wishlist
[23:34] <jgoguen> Can someone on bug-control mark bug #225797 as Won't Fix?  It's fixed upstream for Thunderbird 3, but doesn't seem likely to make it to Thunderbird 2.