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pteagueanybody know of a quick way to copy all of the settings from 1 front end to another?00:13
pteaguei can't seem to get the same style info & position osd on my desktop as i get on my normal front end... any ideas?01:01
pteaguenm, finally found the spot for the config01:11
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Luna-TickHi, is there a Nick here?07:02
Luna-TickHe has been helping me with a Mythbuntu LP question: https://answers.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+question/61858/07:02
rhpot1991Luna-Tick: thats foxbuntu07:15
rhpot1991he may not be paying attention now though07:15
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, Hello07:16
foxbunturhpot1991, thanks for the ping, was away07:16
rhpot1991np foxbuntu07:16
rhpot1991foxbuntu: you don't happen to know where the heck the free space setting is?07:16
rhpot1991I thought it was in mythtv-setup>general, but I can't find it there07:17
rhpot1991hmmmpf07:17
foxbunturhpot1991, hmm, thats where I thought it was too07:17
rhpot1991let me check again07:17
rhpot1991ya its not there07:18
Luna-TickHi!07:18
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, so where are we at?07:19
foxbunturhpot1991, hmm...let me move down to the liar and I can look on my other machine07:19
Luna-TickWell, I tried the pretty "Restricted Device Manager"/jockey interface to install the fglrx drivers and had the strange video issues.07:19
Luna-TickSo I ended up removing them and going back to ati07:20
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, you on Mythbuntu 8.10?07:20
foxbuntu...with the 780G chipset right?07:21
Luna-TickYes, 8.10.  Is there going to be an advantage to video playback or CPU use by  changing from ati to fglrx?07:21
Luna-TickYes07:21
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, you generally get smoother frame rates from fglrx over the open source driver when dealing with the HDMI port07:21
Luna-TickJust to catch up with where things are at, have the fancy new RadeonHD drivers not made it into Ubuntu yet?07:21
Luna-TickRight.  At the moment I am back to the D-Sub as I had issues getting the sound to work over HDMI07:22
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, they are in Ubuntu main, but dont support the newer chipsets yet iirc07:22
Luna-TickRight07:22
Luna-TickI haven't had any issues installing non-Free drivers with Jockey before, so I was quite surprised at the seriousness of the problems.07:23
Luna-TickI am using Myhtbuntu 6407:23
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, 64 wont make a difference here07:23
foxbunturhpot1991, frontend > Setup > Setup > TV > General07:24
foxbuntu2nd page ish07:25
Luna-TickI wouldn't have thought so, but I also get a "Mode not supported" from the TV during Usplash on startup and shutdown on the 64-bit version, but when I switched the HDDs back to the 32-bit installation to retrieve the database, the usplash works fine.  Not too important, but interesting.07:25
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, prob a bug in the usplash package, god knows its possible since I built it07:25
foxbuntu;)07:25
Luna-TickHaha07:25
foxbuntu...anyways07:26
Luna-TickYeah.07:26
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, switch over to the dsub terminal07:26
foxbuntuthen: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:27
foxbuntusudo dpkg -l | grep ati07:27
foxbuntuwhat is the output?07:27
Luna-TickThere is heaps - anything with those three letters together07:27
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, ah right07:27
foxbuntusudo dpkg -l | grep ^ati07:28
Luna-TickBut remember that I am back to using the ati driver now - I changed the xorg.conf to get back to a usable desktop07:28
Luna-Ticksure07:28
Luna-TickNothing07:29
Luna-Tick(What does the ^ do?)07:29
foxbuntuit should make it look for ati @ the start of the word07:29
rhpot1991foxbuntu: my 2nd page is db config page 207:29
rhpot1991nothing on there at all07:29
foxbunturhpot1991, ?07:29
rhpot1991next page is audio07:30
foxbunturhpot1991, its on the AutoExpire options page07:30
rhpot1991ah there it is07:30
rhpot1991heh07:30
foxbuntulol07:30
rhpot1991foxbuntu: I had it at 5gb, going to bump that and see if it helps me from getting 99% fragged07:31
foxbunturhpot1991, yeah, mine is a bit higher07:31
foxbunturhpot1991, I sitll get to 9907:31
rhpot1991what are you at?07:31
rhpot1991hmmm07:31
foxbunturhpot1991, you using XFS?07:32
rhpot1991foxbuntu: yepper07:33
rhpot1991foxbuntu: do you use openwrt?07:33
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, sudo dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati07:33
foxbunturhpot1991, no, I havent wanted to spend the time on it when I going to be switching to a real firewall soon07:33
foxbuntugoing to cost me a bit, but I figure i better07:34
Luna-TickThat is there (no surprise, I manually reinstalled it)07:34
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, anything else show up?07:35
foxbuntushouldnt07:35
Luna-TickNo07:35
foxbuntusudo dpkg --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati07:35
foxbuntulet me know if errors pop up07:35
Luna-TickI did that before and get an error about dependencies (xserver-xorg-video-all)07:38
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, whats the exact error?07:38
Luna-Tickdependency problems prevent removal of xserver-xorg-video-ati07:40
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, ok, do this then:07:40
foxbuntusudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati07:40
Luna-Tickxserver-xorg-video-all depends on xserver-xorg-video-ati07:41
foxbuntuand when it asks to remove the depends, make note of which ones and then say yes07:41
Luna-TickUm.... problem07:42
Luna-TickI was doing that through an accessories terminal07:42
foxbuntulol07:42
Luna-TickNow I tried to switch to the Ctrl+Alt+F107:43
foxbuntuyou need to switch over07:43
Luna-Tickand get the "Mode Not Supported" error07:43
foxbuntuyou attached to a tv?07:43
foxbuntuoh right07:43
foxbuntuduh07:43
foxbuntuanyways07:43
Luna-TickThat was working under the D-Sub with fglrx07:43
foxbuntureboot, and then it should be fine07:43
Luna-TickReboot when?07:44
Luna-TickI haven't removed that package yet07:44
foxbuntuoh07:44
Luna-TickDo that first?07:44
foxbuntuwell switch to dsub then07:44
Luna-TickSorry, I am not being clear07:44
foxbuntuctrl+alt+f207:44
Luna-TickSame problem07:44
foxbuntumode not supported?07:44
foxbuntuthats a resolution problem with the TV07:45
Luna-TickIt seems to work under D-Sub with fglrx, but not D-Sub under ati07:45
Luna-TickBut I get text when I boot (BIOS etc.)07:45
foxbuntuit shouldnt matter07:45
Luna-TickIt seems bizarre07:45
Luna-TickIt definitely worked under fglrx because that is how I changed xorg.conf back again - and it definitely isn't working now...07:46
foxbuntuwell at any rate, you should be able to remove and replace the package from gnome07:47
Luna-TickWhy do I want to do that?07:47
Luna-TickJust checking we're on the same page - my -ati driver is working properly07:47
foxbuntuto give you an attempt at getting HDMI audio work and to get better video performace07:48
Luna-TickOh sorry - so remove -ati and replace with -fglrx07:49
foxbuntuyes07:49
Luna-TickOk, so I'll do what you tell me ;).07:50
Luna-Ticksudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati07:50
foxbuntuyou will need to reboot this time though, because gnome will hold onto the driver07:50
foxbuntubut before you reboot07:51
foxbuntuchange your xorg07:51
Luna-TickRight - ati and all are gone07:51
foxbuntuok07:51
Luna-TickDo I need to install fglrx?07:51
foxbuntuyes07:51
foxbuntusudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx (i think)07:51
aniienado I get a desktop/cli with mythbuntu?07:52
Luna-Tickaniiena - yes, you do07:52
* foxbuntu uses restraint to not make a smart remark07:52
aniienado I need to redo xorf.conf everytime I connect a different TV/monitor?07:52
foxbuntuaniiena, no07:53
foxbuntuaniiena, when X starts up it will change accordingly07:53
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: It already has the latest version of that driver07:53
foxbuntuaniiena, you can simply reboot, or hads will tell you you can also just restart gdm07:53
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, of fglrx?07:54
aniienaalright, thanks07:54
Luna-TickYes. So I change xorg.conf to read "fglrx" instead of "ati"?07:54
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, yup07:54
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, then either ssh into the machine and restart X or reboot, either way should be fine07:54
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, brb07:55
Luna-Ticknp07:55
Luna-TickSame problem07:57
Luna-TickThe desktop loads fine, but then myhtfrontend starts and the screen is garbage07:58
Luna-TickOnce that has happened, changing to the other virtual desktop (Ctrl + Alt + Right) gives garbage as well.07:58
Luna-TickBut, strangely, the Ctrl + Alt + F1 does now work07:59
Luna-Tick(even if it shouldn't make a difference ;))07:59
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, give you give more details? a better description of what it looks like?08:05
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, can you give more details*08:06
Luna-TickWill do08:07
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, ah resoultion is off08:13
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, likely the fglrx driver selected the wrong one08:13
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, Usually not a problem with Samsung TV though08:13
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, 1080p or 720p tv?08:14
Luna-Tick720p08:14
Luna-Tick(unfortunately ;))08:14
aniienawelp08:15
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, yea, well unless your h.264, 720p is all your going to get anyways08:15
aniienainstalling mythbuntu now08:15
aniienawish me luck08:15
foxbuntuaniiena, should be pretty easy08:15
foxbuntuaniiena, thats what support people are for :)08:15
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, can you pastebin your current xorg.conf and I will edit it for you and send it back?08:16
Luna-TickHmmm....08:16
Luna-TickThat could be a challenge08:17
Luna-TickI'll try08:17
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, nvm then08:17
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, I will just send you what you need to add/change08:17
Luna-TickYou really are excellent at this!08:17
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, I have been breaking my own stuffs for a long time and develing on this project since it started, I sure hope Im getting better08:18
foxbuntu!pastebin08:18
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.08:18
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m549cfcf508:19
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, make sure that the names for the monitor and device are the same, (they should be its the defaults)08:19
foxbuntuie if your ati card is Named "Ati somecard" rather than "Generic Device" then change what I sent you to match08:20
foxbuntuthe important parts is the resolution portion08:20
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, also: www.foxmediasystems.com08:21
foxbuntu;)08:21
Luna-TickIs there meant to be a " after the 720x$?08:22
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu:08:23
aniienabest to format my usb stick to fat32 before using it with mythbuntu?08:23
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, oops08:23
foxbuntuthats just left overs from my term08:23
foxbuntudelete it08:24
foxbuntumake the last one "1024x768"08:24
foxbuntudelete the rest on that line08:24
aniienasilicon dust hdhomerun config utility08:26
aniienawhat's that?08:26
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: Done08:27
foxbuntuaniiena, its a utility required if you have an HDHomeRun HD Tuner08:27
Luna-TickNow what08:27
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, restart X again08:27
aniienaby default it wants me to diable tv-out08:27
foxbuntuctrl+alt+bkspc08:27
aniienaI can easily enable it when I need it?08:27
foxbuntuaniiena, what output are you using?08:27
aniienaright now a monitor08:27
aniienabut at different times I plan to use different TV sets08:27
foxbuntuwhat type of connection is the goal?08:28
aniienaeither hdmi or composite08:28
foxbuntugo ahead and unselect it08:28
foxbuntuwont hurt08:28
foxbuntuit will default to the connection thats plugged in at boot08:28
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, ctrl+alt+bkspc08:29
Luna-TickSame issue08:30
foxbuntustill out of wack eh?08:30
Luna-TickYupp08:30
foxbuntuhrm08:31
Luna-TickHang on08:31
foxbuntuI have a machine with the same chipset08:31
foxbuntuwhich one I am not sure at this point08:33
Luna-TickNope08:34
Luna-TickI just checked and it isn't working08:34
Luna-TickIt is so odd, because it is working fine until Mythfrontend starts and stuffs it08:35
foxbuntutry  full reboot08:35
Luna-TickWill do08:35
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: same problem08:37
foxbuntuintresting08:37
Luna-TickCan I send you a log or something?08:38
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, so if you ctrl+alt+bksp, it should go back to the login at first, is that screen off too?08:38
Luna-TickNo, that is fine08:38
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, so it really is Myth causing it, thats odd08:38
Luna-TickCould it be something to do with those "Prescaled images" or something?08:39
foxbuntuor at least a QT/OpenGL app08:39
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, well it does that based on the res08:39
Luna-TickWhich hasn't changed08:39
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, ...im thinking, I have had similar issues in the past08:40
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, in your xorg.conf Device Section:08:43
aniienaunder video capture card setup08:43
aniienait's asking for my video device...08:43
foxbuntuaniiena, its your tuner, what kind do you have?08:44
aniienahauppage08:44
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, add this: Option "VideoOverlay" "off"08:44
aniiena150008:44
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, also add this line same spot: Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "on"08:44
aniienaAnalog V4L capture card?08:45
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, in the server layout section: Option "AIGLX" "on08:45
foxbuntuaniiena, no08:45
foxbuntuaniiena, 1500?08:45
foxbuntuaniiena, perhaps do you mean HVR-1600?08:45
aniienaerr08:45
aniiena15008:45
foxbuntuoh08:45
foxbuntuthats a great card08:45
foxbuntuaniiena, next tuner in the list08:46
aniienampeg capture card?08:46
foxbuntuI think, its the PVR-xxx card08:46
foxbuntuuh08:46
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: by the way, mine says "Configured Monitor" instead of "Generic Monitor" and Device is "Configured Video Device" - should I have changed those to match yours?08:46
foxbuntulook for the one with PVR in the name08:46
aniienampeg-2 encoder card (PVR-x50 etc)08:46
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, no08:46
aniienawhat do I put in for video device?08:46
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, they are just names, really doesnt matter08:47
Luna-TickThought so08:47
Luna-TickI'll make your changes08:47
foxbuntuaniiena, should have defaulted to /dev/video0 and Says PVR-150 tuner under neath08:47
Luna-TickDo I add you changes outside the SubSection?08:47
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, yes08:47
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, in ServerLayout08:48
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, not in Screen08:48
aniienaactually08:48
aniienaI have a Win-TV-HVR-125008:48
foxbuntuaniiena, well, thats a very different card08:49
aniienaI am coming to that realization08:49
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: I don't have a server layout section08:49
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, really?08:50
Luna-TickYeah08:50
foxbuntunot at the very top?08:50
Luna-TickNope - it starts with "Monitor"08:50
Sharkonwheelsrhpot1991: you still around?08:50
aniienaI will just skip this part08:51
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I highly doubt it, its nearly 4A for him08:51
foxbuntuaniiena, no08:51
Sharkonwheelssame here - near 4am :)08:51
foxbuntuaniiena, change the tuner to DVB08:51
aniienahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107102108:51
aniienaok08:51
Sharkonwheelsyou folks are running XFS? I thot you weren't supposed to use a journaling fs for recording?08:51
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, XFS is much faster than ext3 is the reason behind it08:52
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, its not ideal for the frag factor08:52
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: I really appreciate your help, but it is getting quite late here and I need to go to bed, so I think that I will change it back to how it was and have it going again.08:52
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, but I am looking at doing a test deploy of ext4 soon08:53
Sharkonwheelsone of the docs mentioned corruption using a journaling fs, so i used ext3 for the OS, ext2 for the recording08:53
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, well I was going to paste the section08:53
aniienacould not get card info for card #0 Subtyp08:53
Sharkonwheelsanyone you know doing SATA2 RAID5? Wonder what the write penalties are?08:53
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, but if your going to be, catch me again later if you are still having issues08:53
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: Do you think I can just add a "ServerLayout" section?08:54
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, depends on your controlers08:54
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, yup08:54
Luna-TickOkay - I'll hang in there for another try :)08:54
Luna-TickThanks08:54
Sharkonwheelserm, was looking at the Intel ICH10R onboard an MSI P45 Neo3-FR08:54
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m41cb583208:55
Sharkonwheelsmainboard linkage:  http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=P45_Neo3-FR&class=mb08:55
foxbuntuobviously again, make sure the screen name is the same as what is in your xorg08:56
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, its consumer, essentialy is could be considerable depending on your i/o utilization08:56
Sharkonwheelswas thinking of doing 4 or 5 500GB drives for a 1.5TB setup (1 parity, or 1 parity+1 online spare)08:56
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: Thanks - should I add those options above, or try without?08:57
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, in my Day job, I have seen as much as 10-15% disk speed loss just to the controller firmware in the enterprise class of hardware08:57
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, at the top of the xorg should be fine08:58
Luna-TickYeah, sorry, I mean shall I add those overlay and XAA options to the pastebinned section08:58
foxbuntuno08:58
Sharkonwheelsyeah, I know - see that all day long at work (Sun boxes, and HP Dl380 G3/G4's) and those are Ultra 320SCSI RAIDS, or SAS!08:58
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, the options I sent before go in the Device section08:59
Luna-TickOh... crap.08:59
Luna-TickSorry08:59
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, ah yes, DL380 G4's08:59
Sharkonwheelsbut still, not bad - figger most we need is what? 3MBps per recording channel? If even? I'm getting 2.2GB per hour recording on this box through the HVR-1600's09:00
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I am a consultant and Deal with large banking/insurance clients on that hardware09:00
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, yea, you wont bottle neck with that09:00
Sharkonwheelsyep - decent enough boxes (we use them on our ships) I have G2's in place for over 5 years now!09:00
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I put in the note since I have 11 tuners and hammer my disks09:00
SharkonwheelsI remember starting with the P3 based 1850R's - now THOSE were junk - faulty cooling design, hence the name change to DL380 :)09:01
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, oh, I dont let hardware get that old09:01
foxbuntubad things happen when you do09:01
Sharkonwheelsway the economy is, no choice - I'd have to replace, let's see, about 23 servers times 11 ships, average of about $7K per server...09:02
foxbuntuwith my clients all the servers have 3 year life cycles09:02
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: Done09:02
Luna-TickShall I reboot09:02
Sharkonwheelswe've starting migrating to VMware ESXi and Sun boxes09:02
Luna-Tick?09:02
Luna-TickOr restart X?09:02
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, restart X09:02
SharkonwheelsThe Sun's really s*U*ck!09:02
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, yes, I have not had to deal with them in a long time (thank god)09:03
Luna-TickSame problem09:03
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, well, craps09:03
Sharkonwheelswe have a setup that's, what, november timeframe? like 90-120 days old? 3 replacements so far...09:03
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, try this:09:03
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, install the ati catalyst control centre09:03
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, let me find the package name09:04
Sharkonwheelsheh - get this: we hav eone ship (won't be in the fleet much longer) which still has the *BEIGE* Proliants!09:04
foxbuntuactually09:04
Sharkonwheels:o09:04
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, sudo aticonfig09:04
foxbuntuit will tell you what to install09:04
Sharkonwheels(as an aside, I got frustrated with the dang ATI drivers, and went out and bought an AGP Nvidia card. Been rocking since)09:04
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, now those were rock solid machines09:04
aniienahow do I setup my remote?09:04
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, takes me back to the days of being a Netware admin09:05
foxbuntuaniiena, what remote?09:05
Sharkonwheelsyep - I started on 2.0a09:05
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: Thank you so much for all of your help, but I really have to get to bed.  I would really appreciate it if you could add the extra instructions to the LP answer, though.  I will save this xorg.conf as something else so I can go back to it09:05
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, my first shop was 3.0 i think09:05
Sharkonwheelsthen 2.10, 2.12, then all the crazyness started - SFT, advanced, sheesh!09:05
Sharkonwheels3.10/3.11/3.12 made it simple!09:06
aniienadoesn't have a product # on it09:06
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, sounds good, catch me back in here sometime09:06
Sharkonwheelsbrb09:06
foxbuntuaniiena, where did you get the remote? did it come with the tuner?09:06
aniienayes09:06
foxbuntuprob an MCE remote then09:06
foxbuntudoes the receiver for it use USB or plug into the card?09:07
aniienaplug into the card09:07
foxbuntuok...09:07
foxbuntuone sec09:07
foxbuntuaniiena, hmm, im finding that there are issues with that style IR receiver because the drivers for the card dont implement it yet09:10
aniienahum09:10
aniienaso my card isn't supported yet?09:11
foxbuntuaniiena, you might need to get a different receiver/remote or do some looking around09:11
foxbuntuaniiena, its supported, the IR on it just isnt quite ready yet09:11
aniienaok well09:11
aniienaI have another remote09:11
foxbuntuaniiena, the HVR series cards are all very new to the game and support is there but still new09:11
aniienait is a MCE Remote and Reciever09:12
foxbuntuthre you go09:12
foxbuntuthose work 100%09:12
foxbuntuplug it in and I will tell you the easy way to set it up09:12
Luna-Tickfoxbuntu: All is back to how it was (that's a relief), so the fiancee will not be too angry with me tomorrow ;).09:14
foxbuntulol09:14
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, being married, I know exactly that problem09:14
Luna-TickThanks again for all of your help - people like you make a real difference to products like this09:14
SharkonwheelsI have a 1600, and it was braind0dead to install. PVR-x50 for analog side, DVB for HD side09:14
foxbuntuLuna-Tick, thanks, catch you later09:15
Luna-TickI hope so - Thanks09:15
aniienaok it's plugged in09:15
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, yeah, however there are several versions of the 1600 for some reason09:15
Sharkonwheelswhen reconfiguring, though, I have to manually enter the device names. When I select <PVR-x50> it says not detected09:15
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, do you have the QAM one?09:15
Sharkonwheelsyep - xx04109:15
Sharkonwheelsseems it started when I popped in 4 cards :)09:16
Sharkonwheelsbefore, it was the 1 1600, and 1 Pinnacle PCTV (what a piece of junque)09:16
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, hmm intresting, I cant get any signal on the QAM side of mine09:16
Sharkonwheelsme neither :)09:16
foxbuntudo you get ATSC from it09:16
foxbuntu?09:16
SharkonwheelsI had a lock a few days ago, and a few channels showed up in the scan, but I ran out of ports on the CATV splitter, so just wired up all the analog ports.09:17
foxbuntuaniiena, open up Mythbuntu Control Centre09:17
Sharkonwheelsthe PCTV shares the connector, but ain;t got HD on that one working yet, either. SUPPOSEDLY it has a better HD tuner/scanner09:17
aniienaok it's open09:18
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, isnt the ATSC/NTSC side of the card the same RG6 input?09:18
Sharkonwheelsfox: I get no lock - tried cable/cable high with 8vsb (ATSC), QAM-64, 128, & 256 - got nada09:18
foxbuntuaniiena, select ir devices09:18
aniienadone09:18
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, same here, its driving me nutz09:18
Sharkonwheelsfox: HVR-1600's have 1 F connector for NTSC, 1 for HD. wiring NIGHTMARE!09:19
aniienawindows media center remotes?09:19
foxbuntuaniiena, enable the top one, then select the Windows MCE remote (new one)09:19
foxbuntumake sure Generate Dynamic Maps is checked09:19
Sharkonwheelsthe PCTV has 1 F-conn shared, but the fact it has no MPEG2 onboard absolutely SUCKS! was NOT worth the $10 savings :)09:19
SharkonwheelsI got the HVR's new at Circuit City for $5009:19
aniienanow when I plug in a USB memory stick09:20
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, which is the HD?09:20
Sharkonwheelsthey both support HD09:20
aniienawill mythbuntu detect it, pull media from it and place that media on the appropriate directories?09:20
Sharkonwheelsor u mean which connector?09:20
foxbuntuaniiena, nope09:20
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, which connector09:20
Sharkonwheelstop one - it's labelled "TV" I think09:20
foxbuntuthere is FM, Ant, TV09:20
foxbuntuok09:21
Sharkonwheelsshould be the top connector - think it sticks out a little more09:21
Sharkonwheelslemme check, brb09:21
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, thats the bottom F conn09:21
aniienawhat is the default directory for videos?09:21
Sharkonwheelssorry - BOTTOM F connector is HD.09:21
SharkonwheelsI read wrong/thought wrong. Top is Analog NTSC09:21
foxbuntuaniiena, uh, /var/lib/mythtv/videos/09:21
foxbuntutop as in the one below FM?09:22
Sharkonwheelserm, u lost me - HVR-1600's don't have FM09:23
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, anyways, ATSC is Ant or TV?09:23
foxbuntuShadow__X, mine does09:23
foxbuntuer09:23
foxbuntuSharkonwheels,09:23
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, like i said, several versions09:23
Sharkonwheelsmine's model 1199, with remote09:23
foxbuntunope, I have an OEM model09:24
foxbuntuer09:24
foxbunturetail I mean09:24
Sharkonwheelsyep - mine's a retail from CCity09:24
foxbuntumine is through my distributor09:24
Sharkonwheelsmine is labelled "TV" for the NTSC F connector, and "ATSC" for the HD connector09:24
Sharkonwheelsbelow that is the SVideo09:25
foxbuntuyup09:25
Sharkonwheelsthen I think a sound-in jack, then the IR-Blaster jack09:25
foxbuntui have one more f connector for FM09:25
Sharkonwheelsthe PCTV has FM, which isn't even connected anyways, so I won't miss the FM. Can MythTV do anything with the FM yet?09:26
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, uh, idk, (who cares?)09:26
foxbuntu;)09:27
SharkonwheelsI know - I either listen to CD's, or to the AM whackos or AM sports anyways :)09:27
SharkonwheelsAiiena get the PVR working?09:27
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, well I was more refering to the support of shoutcast09:28
Sharkonwheelsseriously, I barely have enough time to even watch what I record!!09:28
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I know that feeling09:28
SharkonwheelsI finally watched a couple things I recorded on line 2/17!09:29
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, its freaking 3:39A am I sitting here and working on my taxes and this, and my day job09:29
Sharkonwheelstaxes? oh HECK no - I stopped that. I use an accountant/former client ( no time for consulting any more)09:30
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, oh I have to get them preped for the accountant09:30
Sharkonwheelsoh, the FUN part you mean :)09:30
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I own a small business (very small) and that is the crap I am dealing with09:30
Sharkonwheelsthe part where you barge into the accountants office with a grocery bag full of receipts09:31
Sharkonwheelsand they look at you like you have 3 eyes09:31
foxbuntuyeah, something like that09:31
foxbuntuguy charges me a ton but always gets me lots of money back09:31
aniienaso I put a movie in /var/lib/mythtv/videos09:32
aniienait doesn't show up in mythtv frontend09:32
Sharkonwheelsis it a supported format?09:32
aniiena.avi?09:32
Sharkonwheelsfox: do you have to do the <scan> function for it to update the db or something?09:32
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, yes09:33
foxbuntuUtils / Setup > Video Manger09:33
foxbuntuin the mythtv menus09:33
Sharkonwheelsmain project today, was replacing the 7000RPM 60mm CPU fan - dang computer in the living room sounded like a DC-1009:34
aniienaok there is goes09:34
aniienaI have to do Setup > Video Manager each time I add content?09:35
foxbuntuaniiena, yes09:35
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, meh, I have an HP LT6000 sitting in my basement as a build server09:35
aniienastop/pause aren't working09:36
foxbuntuaniiena, in the video you added?09:36
aniienaoh nevermind09:36
aniienaI was using the hauppage remote09:36
aniienalol09:36
foxbuntulol09:36
SharkonwheelsI now have like 3 of those as spares in the garage!09:37
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, lol, they are loud bastards09:37
Sharkonwheelsfox: any news on when the 2250's will have a driver? Those should rock. dual NTSC/ATSC, only 1 F connector, in 2 PCIe x1 slot09:37
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, i havent heard anything on it09:38
Sharkonwheelsfox: you have NO idea! This is on an old Athlon XP 2500+ 333FSB I've been running at 425FSB for a while09:38
Sharkonwheelsthe cooler is the Cooler Master HHC-001 - their very first heat pipe. that fan is THE loudest fan I have EVER heard in a PC case!09:38
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, i used to do that, then I started by business and have new hardware all over09:38
Sharkonwheelsall the reviews said it - when it was in my home office (given up to my kids years ago) it was fine, and cool. In the living room, dang it was annoying!09:39
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I have like 7-8k in MythTV dedicated hardware atm09:39
Sharkonwheelsdang. I ain't even got $7-8 HUNDRED!09:40
Sharkonwheelsquick MythTV arch. question.09:40
foxbuntusure09:40
Sharkonwheelshow's the client/server setup work? NFS/SAMBA? Or streaming front end?09:40
Sharkonwheelswhat kinda' bandwidth needed between clients and the back-end?09:40
foxbuntustreaming to the frontend09:41
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, anything will do until you get into h.264 mp409:41
aniienaalright09:41
aniienaremote is working, I will deal with the capture card/tv tuner tomorrow09:41
SharkonwheelsI have MPG's coming out of the HVR-1600's09:41
aniienathanks for the help09:41
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, then you should look at gig-e for everything if you plan to be pushing more than one stream09:41
foxbuntuaniiena, gl, gn09:42
Sharkonwheelsaiiena: what's not working on the cad?09:42
Sharkonwheelser, card?09:42
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, its not a 150, its a HVR-125009:42
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, they are kind of special case09:42
Sharkonwheelsthat the PCIe one?09:42
foxbuntuyeah09:43
foxbuntuI think so09:43
foxbuntuthat and the 1800/225009:43
Sharkonwheelsthe 2250 will be nice when drivers are done. dual HD/Analog tuners, 1 F-conn, in a PCIe X1 slot09:44
foxbuntuindeed09:44
Sharkonwheelsman, but that Pinnacle PCTV was SUCH as waste of $$09:44
foxbuntuand it should support multirec too09:44
aniienayeah it's the PCI express one09:44
aniienaI had a 150 spec'ed out, but I didn't know if it would fit into my case09:45
SharkonwheelsI didn't know at the time, rushed in there and bought blind, but knew they were both supported, just didn't realize the Hauppauge was SO much better with the MPEG209:45
foxbuntuyes09:45
foxbuntui have stuck to their cards for a long time09:45
Sharkonwheelsthe wiki doesn't mention difficulties, at least not with after-2.6.24 kernels...09:46
foxbuntuwith what?09:46
Sharkonwheelsmy mythbuntu 8.10 came with 2.6.27-709:46
Sharkonwheelswith the 1250's09:46
Sharkonwheelswikie entry, the person said "I purchased this card, dropped it into my MythDora5 box running 2.6.25, and was capturing HD television within Myth from a pair of rabbit ears, with configuration taking 20 minutes."09:47
Sharkonwheelscourse, no NTSC yet, right?09:48
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, ah, well much has changed then09:48
foxbunturight09:48
Sharkonwheelsone reason I'm glad I at least used Opera Mini on my BBerry while at CCity picking cards.09:49
SharkonwheelsI didn't realize that the HVR's had onboard MPEG2, which the PCTV's lacked, or the HUGE improvement!09:49
Sharkonwheelswatching live TV on the PCTV, it skips evne when I use the remote to change volume!09:49
SharkonwheelsI have a REALLY old PCI WinTV, we're talking probably 1997-1998. This will not have PCI-passthrough audio right?09:50
SharkonwheelsI vaguely remember looping it into my sound-card line-in jack, I think...09:50
SharkonwheelsI never got the audio working, so i just went out and got the (1) HVR and (1) PCTV on Sunday.09:51
SharkonwheelsThen made a return trip Tuesday when I was disappointed in the PCTV and got (3) more HVR's09:51
foxbuntuah09:52
foxbuntuI think I might need to start expiring shows09:52
foxbuntucrap09:52
foxbuntuI hadnt looked at storage for abit09:52
Sharkonwheelsbrb09:52
Sharkonwheelsgoing back to the C/S arch.... I can't wire my house, as I don't have attic space/drop ceilings, so I'v ebasically been WiFi in here since 199809:58
Sharkonwheelsmy first router/ap was a linksys for $300 - that's how far back it goes!09:58
Sharkonwheelsis WiFi-N fast enough?09:59
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, eh... Wireless-N is a can of worms atm10:00
Sharkonwheelswhat about the turbo-g's ?10:00
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, there are 100M- FD adapters for Eth-to-Electrical now10:01
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, actually one of our devs uses them10:01
Sharkonwheelswill that work jumping circuits through the fusebox?10:02
Sharkonwheelsor gotta be on same circuit?10:02
foxbuntuhttp://www.netgear.com/Solutions/HomeNetworking/PowerlineNetworking.aspx10:03
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, doesnt matter it just turns all the elec. into network10:03
Sharkonwheelscool - checking it out now on newegg...10:04
SharkonwheelsI was thinking of playing with a box at work...10:04
foxbuntuwatch the specs on them10:04
foxbuntumany are not 100M yet10:04
SharkonwheelsI have a DL380G4 4G RAM 2x Xeon 3.4, 6 x 146GB with 14 more 146G drives in an MSA50010:05
foxbuntuwould make a nice BE server10:05
Sharkonwheelsdoes Linux support the MSA500 and it's U320 controllers? does it support the multipathed setup?10:05
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, prob in the server kernel10:05
Sharkonwheelswe used it for a Win2003/SQL Server cluster - it got replaced by one of the ESXi setups10:06
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, but you dont want to do server kernel with myth10:06
Sharkonwheelswhat's BE?10:06
foxbuntubackend10:06
Sharkonwheelsah10:06
Sharkonwheelsduh!10:06
Sharkonwheelsprob is, there's what? 2PCI slots? 1 used by the storage adapter?10:06
Sharkonwheelsu remember the old-school HP LXe Pro's? the Dual PPro HUGE rolling boxes?10:07
foxbuntuiirc, yes10:07
foxbuntunope10:07
Sharkonwheelshad like 200 PCI slots :)10:07
Sharkonwheelsand hot-swap!10:07
foxbuntuI started as a netware admin, nothing in netware needed that kind of hardware back then10:08
SharkonwheelsWhen I was at royal caribbean in the 90's, we deployed a ton of those on NT running Oracle 8g10:08
Sharkonwheelsyeah - I still think netware is the fastest fileserver in the biz10:08
SharkonwheelsYou ever get into the Unixware side?10:08
foxbuntueveryone using netware was using the proliant servers (it seemed anyways!)10:09
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, only in the last 5 years or so10:09
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I really am the jack of all trades, its disgusting10:10
Sharkonwheelsyeah - I know the feeling.10:11
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, I do consulting in: security, infrastructure, large scale deployments, and then I have special skills like scripting and custom software authoring10:11
foxbuntuI do hardware and software essentially sums it up10:11
SharkonwheelsI've worked on everything from Linux, to FreeBSD, to BSDi, to SunOS and SOlaris, to Irix Non-Stop UX, HP-UX, little zOS/zVM/MVS10:12
Sharkonwheelsmakes us agile, though10:12
foxbunturight now I am on a project writing a piece of software to Automate server and workstation management10:12
foxbuntuits a .Net 3.5 + AJAX web app10:12
Sharkonwheelsscripting.... (reading back) hmm...what cards are you using? the HVR's?10:13
foxbuntuand I do coding for this project (mostly python, a little perl here and there)10:13
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, well my primary cards are PVR-150s right now, along with the HDHR and waiting for .22 to go live to bring my HD-PVR into the mix in my production system10:14
Sharkonwheelsdo the PVR-150's have the same issue as my HVR-1600's? First analog access is garbled after booting up?10:14
foxbuntuno10:15
Sharkonwheelsfirst access is garbled (either skipping, no audio, or both) and there's a script here:10:15
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, there is a change for the mythtv-backend script that will fix that, its related to having multiple HVR cards10:15
SharkonwheelsI tried the script on the wiki page, but I can;t get it to actually work.10:16
SharkonwheelsI made another .sh scrip to call the main script 3 times, but 'tis ain't working...10:17
Sharkonwheelsother issue I've been fighting, is sometimes on bootup, the order in which the cards are detected changes.10:17
Sharkonwheelsbefore, the PCTV was video0, and the HVR's were video1-video310:18
Sharkonwheelsthis last time I booted up, the HVR's were video0-video2, and the PCTV was video3!10:18
Sharkonwheels'course, that just totally throws off the BE!10:18
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, you need to create a udev rule to handle it10:19
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, there is info out there on that too10:19
foxbuntufor that exact case10:19
Sharkonwheelswhat's a udev rule?10:20
foxbuntuits a rule that tells the kernel how to create the /dev nodes for devices10:21
foxbuntubecause /dev/video0 is really a link to another hardware device in the kernel10:21
foxbuntuits just a human friend device node10:21
foxbuntufriendly10:21
* Sharkonwheels has more homework to do, apparently :010:22
foxbuntuSharkonwheels, yeah, the kernel is a wonderful world of pure confusion at first10:23
foxbuntuwell time for me to grab some b-fast10:45
foxbuntucatch you later Sharkonwheels10:46
Sharkonwheelsl8r - crashing now :)11:12
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ipwnuI am currently running knoppmyth and am considering changing to mythbuntu.  What is the best way to transition my database over so I don't lose all of my recordings / recording history etc.16:39
rcopelanhello, I installed Mythbuntu but am having probelms getting the audio from the PVR250 card to recordings or liveTV.  It works from the card audio out but is out of sync for LiveTV.   Routing via an external cable doesn't work.  Any ideas on where I need to look for a solution?17:02
mib_3zz6qmhi, I have a problem with mythbuntu 8.10 on an eee box where the screen goes dark (or white as I just noticed) after a while of playing video or live tv20:35
mib_3zz6qmI've posted to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107679120:35
mib_3zz6qmand I've put my logs in the pastebin here http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f12882a1220:35
mib_3zz6qmthanks for having a look20:36
gizmobayI'm using mythvodka and for some reason the entries in the db don't match the hulu.xml file. Does anyone know how I can clear out the db entries so I can retry?20:45
Sharkonwheelsanyway to find out AFTER the fact, which tuner recorder which program? I have some recordings with "crackling" in the audio22:12
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ChaorainDoes anyone know if it possible to use the Samsung universal remote with MythTV?23:17
Chaorain!help remotes23:29
Zinn!help remotes For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].23:29
foxbuntuChaorain, only if it can code learn or is ir compatible with your receiver23:30
foxbuntuChaorain, in all likelihood, no23:30
Chaorainit has a programable code index but where do I find a pc adapter?23:31
foxbuntua pc adapter for what?23:31
Chaorainthe remote23:31
foxbuntuyou mean the receiver?23:31
Chaorainfor the IR signals23:31
Chaorainyes23:31
foxbuntuyes23:31
foxbuntuwell thats more difficult than it would seem, usually the receiver and remote are paired up23:32
foxbuntuChaorain, your best option is to buy an WIndows MCE remote23:33
Chaorainhm23:33
Chaorainrather just keep my current remote23:33
Chaorainthanks for the advice23:33
foxbuntuChaorain, then if you want a universal, go with something that can learn/emulate those codes (i.e. Logitech harmony)23:33
foxbuntuChaorain, you should be able to find a remote with the ir receiver for ~$3023:34
ChaorainSamsung IR reciver is under Mythbuntu control center remotes23:35
foxbuntuChaorain, yea, its supported, but you need a specific model23:36
foxbuntuChaorain, you are likely to spend as much on that as an MCE remote combo, and the MCE has better support23:36
Chaorainall I need it for is my tv/mythbuntu23:37
foxbuntuChaorain, let me put it this way, then you make your own informed decision:23:38
Chaoraink23:38
foxbuntuChaorain, 1) Find Samsung IR Receiver supported by Lirc and configure that to work with Mythbuntu 2) Buy MCE remote and IR Receiver (combo) which has better support and is known to work better than any other remote23:39
foxbuntuChaorain, your issue is not the specific remote, its the IR Receiver23:40
foxbuntuChaorain, the reason for buying the MCE remote is due to gaining the IR Receiver packaged with it23:40
Chaorainany other reason for the MCE remote? I already have the Samsung one. Came with the TV.23:41
foxbuntuwhat do you mean, any other reason?23:42
foxbuntuChaorain, what dont you understand about what I have told you?23:43
Chaorainnevermind I get it23:43
foxbuntuChaorain, if you want to stick with the Samsung remote then go find the Samsung USB IR Receiver23:43
Chaorainhard to find23:44
foxbuntuexactly23:44
Chaorainah23:44
foxbuntuMCE Remote with working IR Receiver and Configuration - Easy to find23:44
Chaorainoh MCE is easy to set up I take it23:44
foxbuntuhttp://www.google.com/products?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&hs=wwi&q=mce+remote&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=buOhSe-OOYTUMc_f3MQL&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title23:45
foxbuntuChaorain, yes, I would say its the most common remote23:45
Chaorainthanks for all the help23:46

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