[00:13] anybody know of a quick way to copy all of the settings from 1 front end to another? [01:01] i can't seem to get the same style info & position osd on my desktop as i get on my normal front end... any ideas? [01:11] nm, finally found the spot for the config === foxbuntu_laptop is now known as foxbuntu [07:02] Hi, is there a Nick here? [07:02] He has been helping me with a Mythbuntu LP question: https://answers.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+question/61858/ [07:15] Luna-Tick: thats foxbuntu [07:15] he may not be paying attention now though [07:16] Luna-Tick, Hello [07:16] rhpot1991, thanks for the ping, was away [07:16] np foxbuntu [07:16] foxbuntu: you don't happen to know where the heck the free space setting is? [07:17] I thought it was in mythtv-setup>general, but I can't find it there [07:17] hmmmpf [07:17] rhpot1991, hmm, thats where I thought it was too [07:17] let me check again [07:18] ya its not there [07:18] Hi! [07:19] Luna-Tick, so where are we at? [07:19] rhpot1991, hmm...let me move down to the liar and I can look on my other machine [07:19] Well, I tried the pretty "Restricted Device Manager"/jockey interface to install the fglrx drivers and had the strange video issues. [07:20] So I ended up removing them and going back to ati [07:20] Luna-Tick, you on Mythbuntu 8.10? [07:21] ...with the 780G chipset right? [07:21] Yes, 8.10. Is there going to be an advantage to video playback or CPU use by changing from ati to fglrx? [07:21] Yes [07:21] Luna-Tick, you generally get smoother frame rates from fglrx over the open source driver when dealing with the HDMI port [07:21] Just to catch up with where things are at, have the fancy new RadeonHD drivers not made it into Ubuntu yet? [07:22] Right. At the moment I am back to the D-Sub as I had issues getting the sound to work over HDMI [07:22] Luna-Tick, they are in Ubuntu main, but dont support the newer chipsets yet iirc [07:22] Right [07:23] I haven't had any issues installing non-Free drivers with Jockey before, so I was quite surprised at the seriousness of the problems. [07:23] I am using Myhtbuntu 64 [07:23] Luna-Tick, 64 wont make a difference here [07:24] rhpot1991, frontend > Setup > Setup > TV > General [07:25] 2nd page ish [07:25] I wouldn't have thought so, but I also get a "Mode not supported" from the TV during Usplash on startup and shutdown on the 64-bit version, but when I switched the HDDs back to the 32-bit installation to retrieve the database, the usplash works fine. Not too important, but interesting. [07:25] Luna-Tick, prob a bug in the usplash package, god knows its possible since I built it [07:25] ;) [07:25] Haha [07:26] ...anyways [07:26] Yeah. [07:26] Luna-Tick, switch over to the dsub terminal [07:27] then: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [07:27] sudo dpkg -l | grep ati [07:27] what is the output? [07:27] There is heaps - anything with those three letters together [07:27] Luna-Tick, ah right [07:28] sudo dpkg -l | grep ^ati [07:28] But remember that I am back to using the ati driver now - I changed the xorg.conf to get back to a usable desktop [07:28] sure [07:29] Nothing [07:29] (What does the ^ do?) [07:29] it should make it look for ati @ the start of the word [07:29] foxbuntu: my 2nd page is db config page 2 [07:29] nothing on there at all [07:29] rhpot1991, ? [07:30] next page is audio [07:30] rhpot1991, its on the AutoExpire options page [07:30] ah there it is [07:30] heh [07:30] lol [07:31] foxbuntu: I had it at 5gb, going to bump that and see if it helps me from getting 99% fragged [07:31] rhpot1991, yeah, mine is a bit higher [07:31] rhpot1991, I sitll get to 99 [07:31] what are you at? [07:31] hmmm [07:32] rhpot1991, you using XFS? [07:33] foxbuntu: yepper [07:33] foxbuntu: do you use openwrt? [07:33] Luna-Tick, sudo dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-ati [07:33] rhpot1991, no, I havent wanted to spend the time on it when I going to be switching to a real firewall soon [07:34] going to cost me a bit, but I figure i better [07:34] That is there (no surprise, I manually reinstalled it) [07:35] Luna-Tick, anything else show up? [07:35] shouldnt [07:35] No [07:35] sudo dpkg --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati [07:35] let me know if errors pop up [07:38] I did that before and get an error about dependencies (xserver-xorg-video-all) [07:38] Luna-Tick, whats the exact error? [07:40] dependency problems prevent removal of xserver-xorg-video-ati [07:40] Luna-Tick, ok, do this then: [07:40] sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati [07:41] xserver-xorg-video-all depends on xserver-xorg-video-ati [07:41] and when it asks to remove the depends, make note of which ones and then say yes [07:42] Um.... problem [07:42] I was doing that through an accessories terminal [07:42] lol [07:43] Now I tried to switch to the Ctrl+Alt+F1 [07:43] you need to switch over [07:43] and get the "Mode Not Supported" error [07:43] you attached to a tv? [07:43] oh right [07:43] duh [07:43] anyways [07:43] That was working under the D-Sub with fglrx [07:43] reboot, and then it should be fine [07:44] Reboot when? [07:44] I haven't removed that package yet [07:44] oh [07:44] Do that first? [07:44] well switch to dsub then [07:44] Sorry, I am not being clear [07:44] ctrl+alt+f2 [07:44] Same problem [07:44] mode not supported? [07:45] thats a resolution problem with the TV [07:45] It seems to work under D-Sub with fglrx, but not D-Sub under ati [07:45] But I get text when I boot (BIOS etc.) [07:45] it shouldnt matter [07:45] It seems bizarre [07:46] It definitely worked under fglrx because that is how I changed xorg.conf back again - and it definitely isn't working now... [07:47] well at any rate, you should be able to remove and replace the package from gnome [07:47] Why do I want to do that? [07:47] Just checking we're on the same page - my -ati driver is working properly [07:48] to give you an attempt at getting HDMI audio work and to get better video performace [07:49] Oh sorry - so remove -ati and replace with -fglrx [07:49] yes [07:50] Ok, so I'll do what you tell me ;). [07:50] sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati [07:50] you will need to reboot this time though, because gnome will hold onto the driver [07:51] but before you reboot [07:51] change your xorg [07:51] Right - ati and all are gone [07:51] ok [07:51] Do I need to install fglrx? [07:51] yes [07:51] sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx (i think) [07:52] do I get a desktop/cli with mythbuntu? [07:52] aniiena - yes, you do [07:52] * foxbuntu uses restraint to not make a smart remark [07:52] do I need to redo xorf.conf everytime I connect a different TV/monitor? [07:53] aniiena, no [07:53] aniiena, when X starts up it will change accordingly [07:53] foxbuntu: It already has the latest version of that driver [07:53] aniiena, you can simply reboot, or hads will tell you you can also just restart gdm [07:54] Luna-Tick, of fglrx? [07:54] alright, thanks [07:54] Yes. So I change xorg.conf to read "fglrx" instead of "ati"? [07:54] Luna-Tick, yup [07:54] Luna-Tick, then either ssh into the machine and restart X or reboot, either way should be fine [07:55] Luna-Tick, brb [07:55] np [07:57] Same problem [07:58] The desktop loads fine, but then myhtfrontend starts and the screen is garbage [07:58] Once that has happened, changing to the other virtual desktop (Ctrl + Alt + Right) gives garbage as well. [07:59] But, strangely, the Ctrl + Alt + F1 does now work [07:59] (even if it shouldn't make a difference ;)) [08:05] Luna-Tick, give you give more details? a better description of what it looks like? [08:06] Luna-Tick, can you give more details* [08:07] Will do [08:13] Luna-Tick, ah resoultion is off [08:13] Luna-Tick, likely the fglrx driver selected the wrong one [08:13] Luna-Tick, Usually not a problem with Samsung TV though [08:14] Luna-Tick, 1080p or 720p tv? [08:14] 720p [08:14] (unfortunately ;)) [08:15] welp [08:15] Luna-Tick, yea, well unless your h.264, 720p is all your going to get anyways [08:15] installing mythbuntu now [08:15] wish me luck [08:15] aniiena, should be pretty easy [08:15] aniiena, thats what support people are for :) [08:16] Luna-Tick, can you pastebin your current xorg.conf and I will edit it for you and send it back? [08:16] Hmmm.... [08:17] That could be a challenge [08:17] I'll try [08:17] Luna-Tick, nvm then [08:17] Luna-Tick, I will just send you what you need to add/change [08:17] You really are excellent at this! [08:18] Luna-Tick, I have been breaking my own stuffs for a long time and develing on this project since it started, I sure hope Im getting better [08:18] !pastebin [08:18] when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [08:19] Luna-Tick, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m549cfcf5 [08:19] Luna-Tick, make sure that the names for the monitor and device are the same, (they should be its the defaults) [08:20] ie if your ati card is Named "Ati somecard" rather than "Generic Device" then change what I sent you to match [08:20] the important parts is the resolution portion [08:21] Luna-Tick, also: www.foxmediasystems.com [08:21] ;) [08:22] Is there meant to be a " after the 720x$? [08:23] foxbuntu: [08:23] best to format my usb stick to fat32 before using it with mythbuntu? [08:23] Luna-Tick, oops [08:23] thats just left overs from my term [08:24] delete it [08:24] make the last one "1024x768" [08:24] delete the rest on that line [08:26] silicon dust hdhomerun config utility [08:26] what's that? [08:27] foxbuntu: Done [08:27] aniiena, its a utility required if you have an HDHomeRun HD Tuner [08:27] Now what [08:27] Luna-Tick, restart X again [08:27] by default it wants me to diable tv-out [08:27] ctrl+alt+bkspc [08:27] I can easily enable it when I need it? [08:27] aniiena, what output are you using? [08:27] right now a monitor [08:27] but at different times I plan to use different TV sets [08:28] what type of connection is the goal? [08:28] either hdmi or composite [08:28] go ahead and unselect it [08:28] wont hurt [08:28] it will default to the connection thats plugged in at boot [08:29] Luna-Tick, ctrl+alt+bkspc [08:30] Same issue [08:30] still out of wack eh? [08:30] Yupp [08:31] hrm [08:31] Hang on [08:31] I have a machine with the same chipset [08:33] which one I am not sure at this point [08:34] Nope [08:34] I just checked and it isn't working [08:35] It is so odd, because it is working fine until Mythfrontend starts and stuffs it [08:35] try full reboot [08:35] Will do [08:37] foxbuntu: same problem [08:37] intresting [08:38] Can I send you a log or something? [08:38] Luna-Tick, so if you ctrl+alt+bksp, it should go back to the login at first, is that screen off too? [08:38] No, that is fine [08:38] Luna-Tick, so it really is Myth causing it, thats odd [08:39] Could it be something to do with those "Prescaled images" or something? [08:39] or at least a QT/OpenGL app [08:39] Luna-Tick, well it does that based on the res [08:39] Which hasn't changed [08:40] Luna-Tick, ...im thinking, I have had similar issues in the past [08:43] Luna-Tick, in your xorg.conf Device Section: [08:43] under video capture card setup [08:43] it's asking for my video device... [08:44] aniiena, its your tuner, what kind do you have? [08:44] hauppage [08:44] Luna-Tick, add this: Option "VideoOverlay" "off" [08:44] 1500 [08:44] Luna-Tick, also add this line same spot: Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "on" [08:45] Analog V4L capture card? [08:45] Luna-Tick, in the server layout section: Option "AIGLX" "on [08:45] aniiena, no [08:45] aniiena, 1500? [08:45] aniiena, perhaps do you mean HVR-1600? [08:45] err [08:45] 150 [08:45] oh [08:45] thats a great card [08:46] aniiena, next tuner in the list [08:46] mpeg capture card? [08:46] I think, its the PVR-xxx card [08:46] uh [08:46] foxbuntu: by the way, mine says "Configured Monitor" instead of "Generic Monitor" and Device is "Configured Video Device" - should I have changed those to match yours? [08:46] look for the one with PVR in the name [08:46] mpeg-2 encoder card (PVR-x50 etc) [08:46] Luna-Tick, no [08:46] what do I put in for video device? [08:47] Luna-Tick, they are just names, really doesnt matter [08:47] Thought so [08:47] I'll make your changes [08:47] aniiena, should have defaulted to /dev/video0 and Says PVR-150 tuner under neath [08:47] Do I add you changes outside the SubSection? [08:47] Luna-Tick, yes [08:48] Luna-Tick, in ServerLayout [08:48] Luna-Tick, not in Screen [08:48] actually [08:48] I have a Win-TV-HVR-1250 [08:49] aniiena, well, thats a very different card [08:49] I am coming to that realization [08:49] foxbuntu: I don't have a server layout section [08:50] Luna-Tick, really? [08:50] Yeah [08:50] not at the very top? [08:50] Nope - it starts with "Monitor" [08:50] rhpot1991: you still around? [08:51] I will just skip this part [08:51] Sharkonwheels, I highly doubt it, its nearly 4A for him [08:51] aniiena, no [08:51] same here - near 4am :) [08:51] aniiena, change the tuner to DVB [08:51] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1071021 [08:51] ok [08:51] you folks are running XFS? I thot you weren't supposed to use a journaling fs for recording? [08:52] Sharkonwheels, XFS is much faster than ext3 is the reason behind it [08:52] Sharkonwheels, its not ideal for the frag factor [08:52] foxbuntu: I really appreciate your help, but it is getting quite late here and I need to go to bed, so I think that I will change it back to how it was and have it going again. [08:53] Sharkonwheels, but I am looking at doing a test deploy of ext4 soon [08:53] one of the docs mentioned corruption using a journaling fs, so i used ext3 for the OS, ext2 for the recording [08:53] Luna-Tick, well I was going to paste the section [08:53] could not get card info for card #0 Subtyp [08:53] anyone you know doing SATA2 RAID5? Wonder what the write penalties are? [08:53] Luna-Tick, but if your going to be, catch me again later if you are still having issues [08:54] foxbuntu: Do you think I can just add a "ServerLayout" section? [08:54] Sharkonwheels, depends on your controlers [08:54] Luna-Tick, yup [08:54] Okay - I'll hang in there for another try :) [08:54] Thanks [08:54] erm, was looking at the Intel ICH10R onboard an MSI P45 Neo3-FR [08:55] Luna-Tick, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m41cb5832 [08:55] mainboard linkage: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=P45_Neo3-FR&class=mb [08:56] obviously again, make sure the screen name is the same as what is in your xorg [08:56] Sharkonwheels, its consumer, essentialy is could be considerable depending on your i/o utilization [08:56] was thinking of doing 4 or 5 500GB drives for a 1.5TB setup (1 parity, or 1 parity+1 online spare) [08:57] foxbuntu: Thanks - should I add those options above, or try without? [08:57] Sharkonwheels, in my Day job, I have seen as much as 10-15% disk speed loss just to the controller firmware in the enterprise class of hardware [08:58] Luna-Tick, at the top of the xorg should be fine [08:58] Yeah, sorry, I mean shall I add those overlay and XAA options to the pastebinned section [08:58] no [08:58] yeah, I know - see that all day long at work (Sun boxes, and HP Dl380 G3/G4's) and those are Ultra 320SCSI RAIDS, or SAS! [08:59] Luna-Tick, the options I sent before go in the Device section [08:59] Oh... crap. [08:59] Sorry [08:59] Sharkonwheels, ah yes, DL380 G4's [09:00] but still, not bad - figger most we need is what? 3MBps per recording channel? If even? I'm getting 2.2GB per hour recording on this box through the HVR-1600's [09:00] Sharkonwheels, I am a consultant and Deal with large banking/insurance clients on that hardware [09:00] Sharkonwheels, yea, you wont bottle neck with that [09:00] yep - decent enough boxes (we use them on our ships) I have G2's in place for over 5 years now! [09:00] Sharkonwheels, I put in the note since I have 11 tuners and hammer my disks [09:01] I remember starting with the P3 based 1850R's - now THOSE were junk - faulty cooling design, hence the name change to DL380 :) [09:01] Sharkonwheels, oh, I dont let hardware get that old [09:01] bad things happen when you do [09:02] way the economy is, no choice - I'd have to replace, let's see, about 23 servers times 11 ships, average of about $7K per server... [09:02] with my clients all the servers have 3 year life cycles [09:02] foxbuntu: Done [09:02] Shall I reboot [09:02] we've starting migrating to VMware ESXi and Sun boxes [09:02] ? [09:02] Or restart X? [09:02] Luna-Tick, restart X [09:02] The Sun's really s*U*ck! [09:03] Sharkonwheels, yes, I have not had to deal with them in a long time (thank god) [09:03] Same problem [09:03] Luna-Tick, well, craps [09:03] we have a setup that's, what, november timeframe? like 90-120 days old? 3 replacements so far... [09:03] Luna-Tick, try this: [09:03] Luna-Tick, install the ati catalyst control centre [09:04] Luna-Tick, let me find the package name [09:04] heh - get this: we hav eone ship (won't be in the fleet much longer) which still has the *BEIGE* Proliants! [09:04] actually [09:04] :o [09:04] Luna-Tick, sudo aticonfig [09:04] it will tell you what to install [09:04] (as an aside, I got frustrated with the dang ATI drivers, and went out and bought an AGP Nvidia card. Been rocking since) [09:04] Sharkonwheels, now those were rock solid machines [09:04] how do I setup my remote? [09:05] Sharkonwheels, takes me back to the days of being a Netware admin [09:05] aniiena, what remote? [09:05] yep - I started on 2.0a [09:05] foxbuntu: Thank you so much for all of your help, but I really have to get to bed. I would really appreciate it if you could add the extra instructions to the LP answer, though. I will save this xorg.conf as something else so I can go back to it [09:05] Sharkonwheels, my first shop was 3.0 i think [09:05] then 2.10, 2.12, then all the crazyness started - SFT, advanced, sheesh! [09:06] 3.10/3.11/3.12 made it simple! [09:06] doesn't have a product # on it [09:06] Luna-Tick, sounds good, catch me back in here sometime [09:06] brb [09:06] aniiena, where did you get the remote? did it come with the tuner? [09:06] yes [09:06] prob an MCE remote then [09:07] does the receiver for it use USB or plug into the card? [09:07] plug into the card [09:07] ok... [09:07] one sec [09:10] aniiena, hmm, im finding that there are issues with that style IR receiver because the drivers for the card dont implement it yet [09:10] hum [09:11] so my card isn't supported yet? [09:11] aniiena, you might need to get a different receiver/remote or do some looking around [09:11] aniiena, its supported, the IR on it just isnt quite ready yet [09:11] ok well [09:11] I have another remote [09:11] aniiena, the HVR series cards are all very new to the game and support is there but still new [09:12] it is a MCE Remote and Reciever [09:12] thre you go [09:12] those work 100% [09:12] plug it in and I will tell you the easy way to set it up [09:14] foxbuntu: All is back to how it was (that's a relief), so the fiancee will not be too angry with me tomorrow ;). [09:14] lol [09:14] Luna-Tick, being married, I know exactly that problem [09:14] Thanks again for all of your help - people like you make a real difference to products like this [09:14] I have a 1600, and it was braind0dead to install. PVR-x50 for analog side, DVB for HD side [09:15] Luna-Tick, thanks, catch you later [09:15] I hope so - Thanks [09:15] ok it's plugged in [09:15] Sharkonwheels, yeah, however there are several versions of the 1600 for some reason [09:15] when reconfiguring, though, I have to manually enter the device names. When I select it says not detected [09:15] Sharkonwheels, do you have the QAM one? [09:15] yep - xx041 [09:16] seems it started when I popped in 4 cards :) [09:16] before, it was the 1 1600, and 1 Pinnacle PCTV (what a piece of junque) [09:16] Sharkonwheels, hmm intresting, I cant get any signal on the QAM side of mine [09:16] me neither :) [09:16] do you get ATSC from it [09:16] ? [09:17] I had a lock a few days ago, and a few channels showed up in the scan, but I ran out of ports on the CATV splitter, so just wired up all the analog ports. [09:17] aniiena, open up Mythbuntu Control Centre [09:17] the PCTV shares the connector, but ain;t got HD on that one working yet, either. SUPPOSEDLY it has a better HD tuner/scanner [09:18] ok it's open [09:18] Sharkonwheels, isnt the ATSC/NTSC side of the card the same RG6 input? [09:18] fox: I get no lock - tried cable/cable high with 8vsb (ATSC), QAM-64, 128, & 256 - got nada [09:18] aniiena, select ir devices [09:18] done [09:18] Sharkonwheels, same here, its driving me nutz [09:19] fox: HVR-1600's have 1 F connector for NTSC, 1 for HD. wiring NIGHTMARE! [09:19] windows media center remotes? [09:19]