/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/02/23/#kubuntu.txt

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Huntz	daskreech: so in adept click main, universe, restricted, multiverse from main server	00:00
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DaSkreech	Yeah	00:00
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Silentstri	How old is Kubuntu v 6.06 LTS?	00:02
DaSkreech	It came out June of 2006	00:02
Silentstri	oh, so it's still maitained... ty	00:02
DaSkreech	!dapper	00:03
ubottu	Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.	00:03
DaSkreech	!lts	00:03
ubottu	LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.	00:03
Silentstri	ty	00:03
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Silentstri	how do you set afk? srry im nub	00:05
matisse	not important, nobody cares about	00:06
Silentstri	lol k ty	00:06
Silentstri	i started the install process... now I wait -_-"	00:07
matisse	How do I smooth my fonts? After installing (recommended) "msttcorefonts" and "ttf-xfree86-nonfree" nearly every font looks pixely. (Already removed those packages, didnt help)	00:08
DaSkreech	Silentstri: wait you are install 6.0.6 ?	00:09
matisse	s/every font/every displayed text	00:09
DaSkreech	Hmm 6.06	00:09
Silentstri	yees	00:09
Silentstri	yes*	00:09
GWild	matisse: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/enable-smooth-fonts-on-ubuntu-linux/	00:09
GWild	matisse: that will help w/ smoothing	00:09
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Silentstri	im goin for dinner... AFK	00:10
khalidmian	i would like to install realvnc since krdc doesnt work can anyone help?	00:10
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DaSkreech	Silentstri: why not Hardy ?	00:10
Silentstri	whats hardy?	00:10
DaSkreech	The next LTS after Dapper	00:10
Silentstri	kubuntu?	00:11
khalidmian	or do i need to install vncviewer by using sudo apt-get install vncviewer inorder to use krdc	00:11
DaSkreech	Dapper is supported for a few more months as desktop	00:11
DaSkreech	Silentstri: No Not Kubuntu but the Kubuntu team will keep patches going for it unofficially and in any case it's supported longer than dapper is even as a Non LTS	00:11
Silentstri	i dont have live cd, and im having problems making one	00:12
DaSkreech	Silentstri: how are you installing then?	00:12
Huntz	daskreech: anything under third party soft or updates	00:12
Silentstri	im gonna stick to 6.06 until i get the hang of kubuntu	00:12
Silentstri	i have live for 6.06	00:12
Silentstri	brb dinner	00:12
DaSkreech	Huntz: no third party. I think that recommended updates should be on	00:12
DaSkreech	Silentstri: Ok Fine	00:12
Huntz	better hurry fore it goes EOL...lol	00:12
DaSkreech	Enjoy dinner	00:12
Huntz	gonna check security also	00:13
DaSkreech	umm	00:13
DaSkreech	I'm gonna say don't bother	00:14
DaSkreech	Do that post update	00:14
khalidmian	any help/suggestions?	00:14
DaSkreech	Since part of the update rules is to change all the security servers	00:14
DaSkreech	!info krdc	00:14
ubottu	krdc (source: kdenetwork): Remote Desktop Connection client for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 378 kB, installed size 708 kB	00:14
DaSkreech	khalidmian: krdc will install all the libraries it needs	00:14
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DaSkreech	It will suggest other libraries it can use	00:14
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DaSkreech	If you would like to use vnc or nx by all means install them	00:15
khalidmian	DaSkreech: cantseem to connect to remote desktop using krdc	00:15
ubuntu_	Khalidmian: Remote Support activated?	00:15
khalidmian	how do i activate that?	00:16
ubuntu_	In windows under the settings of your workstation	00:16
khalidmian	DaSkreech: i seem to be able to connect to remote desktops using realvnc under window	00:16
ubuntu_	but then you need to have vnc server installed under windows	00:17
khalidmian	ubuntu: i am able to access remote desktops using realvnc under windows environment	00:17
ubuntu_	sorry, are you guys trying to access via rdp or via vnc?	00:17
khalidmian	ubuntu_: realvnc server are in the remote desktops already	00:18
ubuntu_	sorry, thought you wanted to connect via rdp...	00:18
khalidmian	yes i do	00:18
khalidmian	do i need krdc server installed in windows?	00:18
ubuntu_	I don't know much about vnc, sorry	00:18
ubuntu_	@khalidmian: not if you want to connect via vnc	00:19
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khalidmian	what if i wish to connect via krdc?	00:21
Huntz	> daskreech:	00:21
Huntz	> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main universe restricted multiverse	00:21
Huntz	> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates universe main multiverse restricted	00:21
Huntz	> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security universe main multiverse restricted	00:21
khalidmian	what do i need to install in widows remote desktops to connect via krdc	00:22
DaSkreech	Huntz: ok	00:22
ubuntu_	depends if you want to connect via rdp protocol or via vnc protocol	00:22
Dragnslcr	khalidmian- nothing	00:22
Dragnslcr	khalidmian- krdc can do RDP just fine	00:22
Huntz	daskreech: so now that perl command?	00:22
DaSkreech	sudo perl -p -i -e 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list	00:23
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dash84	sudo apt-get girls_in_bikinis_wallpapers	00:26
dash84	=P	00:26
Huntz	> daskreech:	00:26
Huntz	> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universe restricted multiverse	00:26
Huntz	> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe main multiverse restricted	00:26
Huntz	> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security universe main multiverse restricted	00:26
Exilant	dash84: i remember some debianis scoffing buntu for exactly that	00:27
dash84	?	00:27
dash84	LOL	00:27
Exilant	must have been some gnome wallpaper calerndar or so	00:27
Silentstri	im back	00:27
dash84	google image search / right click / set as wallpaper	00:27
dash84	=P	00:27
dash84	i cant have that though my girlfriend gets mad :[	00:28
dash84	so i got giraffes instead rofl	00:28
dash84	how does a wallpaper calendar work?	00:28
dash84	:/	00:28
Silentstri	do I need internet to install kubuntu?	00:29
Walzmyn	Silentstri, do you have a cd?	00:29
dash84	you could order the cd :/	00:29
Silentstri	yes	00:29
Wargasm	no, but you will for updates.	00:29
lupine	balls	00:29
Silentstri	so if its updating, Im done the install?	00:29
Walzmyn	then no, but you won't be able to update, Silentstri	00:29
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DaSkreech	Huntz: Yes	00:29
DaSkreech	Continue the rest of the upgrade	00:29
lupine	So, I've shoehorned an ext3 partition into a space about 200 blocks shorter than it should be	00:29
Walzmyn	Silentstri, did you use a net install disk?	00:30
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lupine	resize2fs fails (even with -f) complaining of short reads	00:30
Silentstri	a wha...?	00:30
DaSkreech	Exilant: When Ubuntu started the calendar would change the wallpaper each month	00:30
Huntz	Here we go, engage...lol	00:30
Wargasm	Silentstri: you can install kubuntu with the cd alone, but there are updates you can only get online.	00:30
DaSkreech	sabdfl wanted "strong human imgery" Which most people read as porn	00:30
lupine	(it's a non-raid to a raid-1 setup)	00:30
DaSkreech	The idea was dropped after three months	00:30
Walzmyn	Silentstri, that's probably a no. You're proabably done with the install, just let the update run	00:30
lupine	suggestions? :P)	00:31
dash84	strong human imagery is porn	00:31
Silentstri	i can get internet AFTER i install an op. system	00:31
dash84	unless its some artsy crap	00:31
dash84	lol	00:31
DaSkreech	Silentstri: What do you mean ?	00:31
Wargasm	strong human imagery isn't necissarily porn, dash84	00:31
Huntz	hmmm, to bad I didnt know that there was know output	00:31
dash84	what would it be then?	00:31
khalidmian	how do i install a rpm/tar file?	00:31
Huntz	I would have been done awhile ago	00:31
Wargasm	like you said, it could be art.	00:31
Silentstri	I have a wireless antenna... the laptop im trying to install on is 7yrs old, the original wifi is shot... problem with the antenna is I need to install the driver..........	00:31
Wargasm	not everyone sees porn when they see the human body, some people just see beauty	00:32
dash84	in some circumstances, yes.	00:32
Huntz	can I upgrade with kde running?	00:32
DaSkreech	Huntz: yes	00:33
dash84	so the porn industry wanted a bail out	00:33
dash84	you guys remember that?	00:33
dash84	lol	00:33
Silentstri	^^	00:33
Wargasm	i think thats awesome	00:33
DaSkreech	Silentstri: What chipset?	00:33
Silentstri	chipwhat?	00:33
DaSkreech	:-)	00:33
Silentstri	i r nub XD	00:34
dash84	lol	00:34
dash84	chipset dood	00:34
bishopz	DaSkreesh: whats up :)	00:34
bishopz	ch*	00:34
bishopz	wow -just woke up	00:34
Silentstri	chipset = intel?	00:34
Wargasm	what chipset does your mobo have	00:34
DaSkreech	Silentstri: Who makes the wifi?	00:34
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DaSkreech	hi bishopz	00:34
Silentstri	oh.... uhm, the external one?	00:34
Wargasm	like 965p or whatever	00:35
bishopz	almost got my laptop running correct !	00:35
bishopz	;x	00:35
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Silentstri	idk	00:35
dash84	running what os	00:35
bishopz	extrnal works great no bugs no lags in the movies	00:35
DaSkreech	Silentstri: The external one is the one you need working?	00:35
Silentstri	ya, but I need an OS to install the driver :/	00:35
bishopz	....	00:36
Wargasm	Silentstri: do you know what brand/model the antenna is?	00:36
Silentstri	linksys is the external one	00:36
bishopz	wrong button	00:36
DaSkreech	Silentstri: Good observation! And you said U r nub!!	00:36
Wargasm	do you want to get that one working? or the interal one?	00:36
Silentstri	idk what the internal one is, but its shot	00:36
Silentstri	funny -_-	00:37
Wargasm	oh	00:37
Wargasm	Silentstri: you should be able to figure that out somehow. But the external one will be easy.	00:37
DaSkreech	Silentstri: So why were you asking if you needed to install kubuntu ?	00:37
Silentstri	huh?	00:37
Silentstri	WOOT	00:37
Silentstri	the install worked this time	00:37
Silentstri	3rd times the charm	00:37
Silentstri	or ..... 5th time ._.	00:38
bishopz	lol	00:38
bishopz	its tricky like that sometimes	00:38
Wargasm	usually if it's popular hardware, the driver will be automatically detected.	00:38
dash84	i usually quit by the second try	00:38
dash84	then i bbq da cpu	00:38
bishopz	lolol	00:38
Silentstri	im restarting, so we're about to find out	00:38
Exilant	DaSkreech: thanks for clearing that up for me, thanks. used ubuntu the first time with hoary, so missed out on the first three months	00:38
Wargasm	alright, good luck	00:38
bishopz	gl	00:38
bishopz	im on ubuntu right now	00:39
contrast	Greets, everyone...	00:39
lupine	ah, inelegant solution time	00:39
bishopz	contrast: hi	00:39
dash84	would you guys say ubuntu is the best linux os	00:39
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bishopz	i like it so far, its very user friendly, but user friendly for people who are used to complexity	00:39
bishopz	isnt allll that friendly	00:40
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DaSkreech	dash84: You mean best distro	00:40
DaSkreech	!best	00:40
ubottu	Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.	00:40
dash84	linux os	00:40
dash84	distro	00:40
dash84	bleh	00:40
dash84	sounds the same to me	00:41
dash84	=P	00:41
Silentstri	AND THE VERDICT IS...........................................	00:41
dash84	ive been wanting to try out slackware	00:41
dash84	last time i used that was version 7	00:41
contrast	anyone have an idea why Xorg would be using 20-30% cpu?	00:41
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DaSkreech	dash84: Seriously if you like it it's the best for you	00:41
richie	how do i view the OS i ran with vmware server?	00:41
dash84	it depends man	00:42
Silentstri	I officially have my linux comp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	00:42
lupine	richie: mount disc image, browse	00:42
lupine	generally speaking	00:42
Silentstri	srry for spamming random junk	00:42
bishopz	lol congrats silentstri	00:42
richie	lupine: huh? disk image? i wanna view the gui?	00:42
lupine	oh, right. not a clue	00:43
lupine	with the workstation thingummy?	00:43
Silentstri	ty bishopz	00:44
DaSkreech	welcome to Linux and kubuntu Silentstri	00:44
Silentstri	ty ^^	00:44
bishopz	yw	00:44
Silentstri	i feel 0.1% less nubby XD	00:44
bishopz	lolol	00:44
DaSkreech	dash84: Yes it does. On if you like it :)	00:44
Huntz	lol	00:44
Silentstri	wow this made my old comp run fast	00:44
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Huntz	eh bishopz did you find themes to dl	00:44
bishopz	linux = 100x's smaller than windows	00:45
bishopz	nah nothing worth it yet	00:45
bishopz	u got anything?	00:45
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Huntz	negative	00:45
bishopz	grr	00:45
contrast	what kinda themes you looking for, bishopz?	00:45
Silentstri	awesome... so whats the best IRC client for kubuntu?	00:45
bishopz	tech stuff, clean	00:45
lupine	Silentstri: irssi+screen, of course	00:45
lupine	possible bitlbee	00:45
Silentstri	kk ty	00:45
contrast	bishopz: i mean themes for what?	00:45
bishopz	oh desktop	00:46
bishopz	whole package	00:46
bishopz	ubuntu 8.10	00:46
DaSkreech	Silentstri: try konversation first	00:46
contrast	bishopz: already try gnome-look.org and/or kde-look.org?	00:46
Silentstri	that was what i was going to ask :P	00:46
bishopz	actually no , brb checking into it	00:47
contrast	konversation has fulfilled all my irc needs in the two years i've used linux without a problem	00:47
Silentstri	oh wait, gotta get internet workin	00:47
Silentstri	brb	00:47
DaSkreech	:-)	00:47
Silentstri	XD	00:47
Silentstri	crosses fingers	00:48
contrast	any ideas as to why xorg would be using 20-30% cpu when idle (desktop effects disabled and compiz isn't running)? this just started today out of nowhere	00:48
Silentstri	knocks on table	00:48
Silentstri	NOOOOOOOOOoo	00:48
bishopz	bad news?	00:49
Silentstri	internets not workin	00:49
bishopz	Silentstri: whats wrong/	00:49
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Laeborg	anyone who knows a good ftp client ?	00:49
Silentstri	im fixing, hold on	00:49
bishopz	wifi or hard wire?	00:49
Silentstri	wifi	00:50
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Silentstri	ok	00:50
bishopz	is it a laptop silent	00:50
contrast	Laeborg: filezilla	00:50
Silentstri	question	00:50
Silentstri	yes	00:50
Silentstri	if	00:50
bishopz	ok	00:50
bishopz	hang on	00:50
Silentstri	my encryption is tkip, how do I set that on my laptop	00:50
contrast	Laeborg: if you just need a client, konqueror works too	00:50
Silentstri	its only giving me option for WEP	00:50
bishopz	i use putty with my ftp	00:52
bishopz	-shrugs	00:52
bishopz	silentstri: whats the options in networks	00:53
Silentstri	its encrypted with a TKIP	00:53
Silentstri	WPA personal	00:54
Silentstri	and TKIP	00:54
bishopz	have u tried wpa	00:54
bishopz	Hold thought kids running loose	00:54
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Silentstri	^^	00:54
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Silentstri	its only giving me option for either shared or open system wep modes	00:56
Silentstri	would ASCII make a diff?	00:57
EtFb	Here's a funny one. I'm on Kubuntu 8.04 with an ATI graphics card. Used to be that I couldn't suspend or hibernate, but something in the recent updates just fixed that for me with no effort on my part. Now, I can't log out! If I change my video drive to vesa instead of fglrx, I can log out, but if I leave it as is, the whole laptop crashes when I select Log Out from the menu. Advice welcome!	00:57
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Silentstri	afk	01:00
Silentstri	crap i hit ctrl+alt+f8 what happened?	01:01
Silentstri	what does ctrl+alt+f8 do?	01:02
Silentstri	meh	01:02
Silentstri	AFK	01:02
Huntz	what the ggrrrrr	01:02
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Huntz	my upgrade crashed	01:05
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Huntz	daskreech: you good with error logs?	01:10
[TCK]	quick question: reinstalling kubuntu over the old partition, I'm gonna need to install a new bootloader aren't I?	01:11
Huntz	depends on your setup	01:12
[TCK]	just realised how stupid my mind is, of course if the bootloader is on the same partition and you've formatted the partition, not backed up menu.lst and decided not to install a bootloader then you're a dumbass	01:14
[TCK]	it's late	01:14
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DaSkreech	Huntz: Sure	01:15
DaSkreech	[TCK]: It iwll install one	01:15
[TCK]	I went into advance and deselected that	01:15
[TCK]	go me!	01:15
[TCK]	just finished, grub error 15	01:16
[TCK]	there a quick way to install a proper bootloader without reinstalling kubuntu again?	01:16
Huntz	daskreech: here it comes	01:18
DaSkreech	!paste	01:18
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	01:18
DaSkreech	!grub \| [TCK]	01:18
ubottu	[TCK]: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	01:18
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:30:49,396 DEBUG lsb-release: 'feisty'	01:18
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:30:49,396 DEBUG _pythonSymlinkCheck run	01:19
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:30:49,904 DEBUG checkViewDepends()	01:19
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:30:49,905 DEBUG getRequiredBackports()	01:19
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:31:29,365 ERROR IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu$	01:19
Huntz	> '. Retrying (currentRetry: 0)	01:19
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:31:30,377 ERROR IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu$	01:19
Huntz	> '. Retrying (currentRetry: 1)	01:19
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:31:32,358 ERROR IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu$	01:19
Huntz	> '. Retrying (currentRetry: 2)	01:19
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:31:32,358 ERROR doUpdate() failed complettely	01:19
Huntz	> 2009-02-22 18:31:44,766 ERROR Can not find backport 'release-upgrader-apt'	01:19
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DaSkreech	!paste \| Huntz. Please use this	01:19
ubottu	Huntz. Please use this: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	01:20
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Silentstri	i have a problem, can someone help me?	01:21
Huntz	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121638/	01:21
yowshi	hi i have just moved from gnome to kde and i need a little help	01:21
Huntz	try that...lol	01:21
Silentstri	oh nvm	01:21
Silentstri	anyone can help a nub with wireless problem	01:22
Silentstri	anyone can help a nub with wireless problem	01:23
yuu_	hello everyone	01:24
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Silentstri	hello	01:24
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Huntz	hmmm, I wonder if tor is gonna be back	01:26
[TCK]	Silentstri: fire away	01:27
paco	hola	01:27
Silentstri	ok, i just learned that my wirless card (WPC54G) doesn't have a Kubuntu driver....	01:27
Silentstri	can I do anything about that?	01:27
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bishopz	it might not be that	01:28
DaSkreech	Huntz: DEBUG?	01:28
bishopz	it might be that youre laptop is trying to run both drivers	01:28
bishopz	at the same time	01:28
[TCK]	there's always ndiswrapper, though I've never had much luck with it	01:28
Silentstri	no, I checked on the site	01:28
Silentstri	no driver for anything other then windows.... :/	01:28
anarchy	silentri have you tried ndiswrapper?	01:28
DaSkreech	yowshi: With?	01:28
DaSkreech	hi yuriy	01:28
[TCK]	apparently ndiswrapper has got better since I last tried it out	01:29
Huntz	daskreech: debug where?	01:29
Silentstri	ndiswrapper????	01:29
anarchy	different drivers can work better than others	01:29
bishopz	oh damn, i know on mine, i had to re update the drivers, and disable the laptops actual driver and let it run off linux default	01:29
Silentstri	i r nub, plz go slow ._.	01:29
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DaSkreech	!wifi	01:29
ubottu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:30
yowshi	DaSkreech: well firefox has buggered up and i am trying to figure out how to get app launchers from the panel in gnome into kde. i understand a direct copy is not possible but i realy do need some of the custom command launchers i made	01:30
[TCK]	ndiswrapper basically takes windows drivers and uses them in linux, sort of like a wine project for wireless drivers	01:30
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Silentstri	so, I should google ndiswrapper	01:30
anarchy	https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?action=show	01:30
yowshi	DaSkreech: also i have an issue with pidgin but it isnt as big or important as any of my other issues	01:30
DaSkreech	Huntz: The update is throwing Debug messages. what was the command you used to get this?	01:30
bishopz	^	01:30
Silentstri	put it on memory card, and put on other laptop?	01:30
[TCK]	follow the wifi link from ubottu	01:30
anarchy	use that link silentstri	01:30
DaSkreech	how is firefox bugerd?	01:30
Silentstri	ty anarchy	01:30
Huntz	nothing, I pulled it out of the ditro upgrade logs from the main log	01:31
DaSkreech	Huntz: Did you do a sudo apt-get update ?	01:31
Huntz	ooohhh, wait mind needs to catch up	01:31
Huntz	no I didnt	01:31
anarchy	don't worry about the compiling from source part most of the time you don't need to do that with ndiswrapper silentstri	01:31
DaSkreech	I think that you also need to do an upgrade but that might not be smart since you are already running Gutsy repos	01:32
bishopz	-kicks compiz-	01:32
bishopz	!@#!@#(!#!(*	01:32
Huntz	daskreech: just the frontend distupgrade	01:33
DaSkreech	Huntz: That's from in the /tmp directory ?	01:34
Huntz	but it looks like its looking for the backports repo, doesn't it?	01:34
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Huntz	the log or the upgrade file?	01:34
dash84	hey is it easy to hack someones computer on your wifi network	01:34
dash84	lol	01:34
Huntz	the error log is from var/usr/tmp?	01:35
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DaSkreech	Huntz: Yeah it does. Good call	01:35
Huntz	the error log is from var/log/distupgrade	01:35
DaSkreech	dash84: maybe	01:35
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yowshi	DaSkreech: any idea why my addons which worked perfectly fine in gnome stopped working after i switched over?	01:35
bishopz	lol @ maybe	01:36
bishopz	lol	01:36
bishopz	i had my desktop pimped	01:36
bishopz	all sorts of addons	01:36
DaSkreech	yowshi: No there should be no difference	01:37
bishopz	than went nah i want the plain look	01:37
Huntz	hmmmm, I dunno how its gonna like that, the repo for the backport is dogfood/launchpad	01:37
yowshi	DaSkreech: and yet there is. firefox says they are installed but none of them will activate. i cant even uninstall to reinstall tem	01:37
[TCK]	wow, fresh 8.10's a lot nippier than dist-upgraded 8.10	01:37
DaSkreech	Huntz: in feisty?	01:38
bishopz	mhm@TCK	01:38
yowshi	[TCK]: nippier?	01:38
Huntz	daskreech: yes	01:38
DaSkreech	Weird	01:38
Huntz	ya	01:38
[TCK]	well, it takes a lot shorter time to boot if nothing else	01:38
DaSkreech	[TCK]: Of course	01:38
DaSkreech	Huntz: What's the backports line ?	01:39
Huntz	I wonder if I should let adept do that and try to put one in manually that match us.archive.ubuntu	01:39
[TCK]	I was expecting it to be a little quicker, just not as drastic	01:39
DaSkreech	Yeah I would say	01:39
DaSkreech	[TCK]: The longer you use a computer the more it gets gunky	01:39
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Huntz	http://archive.dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu	01:39
Huntz	feisty-backports	01:39
DaSkreech	Ha ha ok fine roll with it	01:40
Huntz	main/debian-installer	01:40
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yowshi	DaSkreech: oh wait i think i know why. kubuntu doesnt ave firefox 3	01:40
DaSkreech	yowshi: They are pulling from the same repos	01:40
nemesis	hi	01:40
DaSkreech	They all come from one server. So in short yes it does	01:40
yowshi	DaSkreech: well firefox 3 isnt listed in the kick off app launcher	01:41
[TCK]	DaSkreech: true, not that I was expecting linux distros to be immune to that, but Windows still gets it worse	01:41
DaSkreech	yowshi: type firefox it should give you an option to run it	01:41
yowshi	DaSkreech: though i did have it as an app launcxher in the panel in gnome	01:41
nemesis	alguien habla en español	01:41
DaSkreech	!es \| nemesis	01:41
ubottu	nemesis: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	01:41
nemesis	es que tengo un problema	01:41
nemesis	thank's	01:41
DaSkreech	[TCK]: The problem with Windows is you can't clean it without wiping it.	01:41
DaSkreech	I can spruce back up a Linux install to brand new. I can make it faster than brand new if I like	01:42
yowshi	DaSkreech: there is a firefox button with no title under it but that loads something wierd looks almost like a window window and it isnt the firefox 3 i ave installed	01:42
[TCK]	DaSkreech: I assume it isn't as simple as typing one word into cli :P	01:42
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bishopz	the kis underlined	01:45
bishopz	jdsnd	01:45
DaSkreech	yowshi: strange	01:46
DaSkreech	yowshi: press alt+f2 and type in firefox	01:46
DaSkreech	[TCK]: one command possibly	01:46
bishopz	kjsnfd	01:46
bishopz	dkjnd	01:46
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yowshi	DaSkreech: it's in the system i just launched it manually. it just isnt in the kick start list. possibly because i took it out of the gnome app launcher list and put it on the top panel	01:47
DaSkreech	yowshi: sounds likely	01:47
yowshi	DaSkreech: how do i put it on the kde panel or back into the kickstart app launcher?	01:47
DaSkreech	Well I think there is a more approved way of getting launchers on the panel but I just drag the executable there and it makes a button	01:48
bishopz	how would someone on regular irc get in here. like on windows	01:48
bishopz	link-	01:48
yowshi	DaSkreech: i did that in gnome and it moved from the launcher l.list onto the panel	01:49
DaSkreech	bishopz: Regular IRC?	01:49
DaSkreech	I've been using irregualr IRC?	01:49
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bishopz	i mean whats the channel	01:49
DaSkreech	#kubuntu on irc.freenode.net	01:50
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bishopz	ty sir	01:50
DaSkreech	yowshi: alt+f2 and dolphin /usr/bin	01:50
DaSkreech	Drag what ever you want to the panel	01:50
DaSkreech	Then in the properties just give it an icon	01:50
DaSkreech	I know there must be a better way that's just what I did	01:50
yowshi	DaSkreech: huh	01:51
bishopz	selectserver	01:52
bishopz	Daskreech, can u type me a walk thru to get in here ... my girls new to irc, and im on konversation	01:54
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Silentstri	???	01:55
Silentstri	why i quit?	01:55
yowshi	DaSkreech: i could use a little bit mnore then that because i have on idea what i am looking at in dolphin	01:55
Huntz	aarrrrgggg	01:57
Huntz	I thought I had it but I thinks it was qrong	01:57
DaSkreech	yowshi: That's the list of commands (programs) on the computer	01:59
DaSkreech	just type firefox	01:59
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DaSkreech	It should take you to the firefox binary	01:59
DaSkreech	you can press enter to run it and see if that's what you want	01:59
yowshi	DaSkreech: i already did that drag pasrt i did it right from the folder browser	02:00
DaSkreech	Just drag it to a panel and it makes a button	02:00
DaSkreech	Yeah	02:00
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Huntz	well this is getting frustrating, It doesnt like them links	02:01
DaSkreech	Huntz: grr ok make it look live everything else but use feisty-backports	02:02
DaSkreech	or gutsy-backports	02:02
DaSkreech	whichever it's using now	02:02
yowshi	DaSkreech: one app launche down 12 to go. is there a file where gnome put the app launcher button data so i dont have to log into gnome to find it?	02:03
yowshi	DaSkreech: also i'd like to move the vlock and open app icons to the top panel but leave the open windows and kickstart at the bottom how do i do that	02:03
Huntz	hold on, I am gonna post the new log	02:04
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bishopz	Ok how do i instal downloaded themes	02:05
DaSkreech	yowshi: in ~/.gnome I would guess	02:06
DaSkreech	yowshi: Hmm ? You want two panels?	02:07
Huntz	daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121649/	02:07
yuriy	DaSkreech: hmm? what's up?	02:07
DaSkreech	hi yuriy	02:07
DaSkreech	How are you?	02:07
yuriy	good, you?	02:07
yowshi	DaSkreech: yes one for the apps that are running my clock and the various app launchers i am going to add for it and one for the windows thatare open. two just makes everything actually viewable	02:07
DaSkreech	Huntz: Bleh lets recreate the file and start over	02:08
DaSkreech	yuriy: Pretty decent. had a nice weekend	02:08
Huntz	rgr that	02:08
yowshi	DaSkreech: i have a second panel just a matter of moving everything around though some of it i dont know what it is called to move it	02:08
DaSkreech	yowshi: right click the desktop and add panel	02:08
DaSkreech	Huntz: Wait	02:09
DaSkreech	Huntz: Wait wait. Why is it feisty-backports and gutsy everything else ?	02:09
Huntz	eh?	02:09
DaSkreech	The error	02:09
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Huntz	dunno	02:09
DaSkreech	Everything is gutsy except the backports. That's feisty	02:09
DaSkreech	bleh	02:09
DaSkreech	Lets start over :)	02:10
Huntz	rgr, I was half deleted already	02:10
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DaSkreech	Huntz: how do you 1/2 delete ?	02:10
DaSkreech	!ops	02:10
ubottu	Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici or jussi01!	02:10
Huntz	I was holding hte delete key	02:10
DaSkreech	Huntz: just mv it to something else	02:11
DaSkreech	might be helpful to look back into it	02:11
nixternal	DaSkreech: ?	02:11
DaSkreech	nixternal: can you temp ban tor?	02:11
DaSkreech	has been logging in and out for hours	02:11
DaSkreech	With nick collisions	02:11
bishopz	yea he has	02:11
DaSkreech	I'm pretty sure if someone is on the other end they would have noticed by now	02:11
nixternal	_tor: are you OK?	02:12
yowshi	grrrr is there no way to make the clocks in kde show non military time?	02:13
DaSkreech	Logs in with _tor changes it to Guestsomething changes it back to tor collides logsout logs back in with _tor	02:13
DaSkreech	yowshi: There is. I can't remember how. I think it's in system settings. Let me try find out	02:13
yowshi	you'd think it would be in the clock settings :)	02:14
DaSkreech	Yeah	02:14
Huntz	daskreech: ok backed up faulty one, clean slate	02:14
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bishopz	^	02:14
nixternal	hehe, watching him	02:14
bishopz	banbanban	02:14
yowshi	also the panel entries arent in .gnome :(	02:14
bishopz	:-X	02:14
DaSkreech	Use adept to make a new one. with backports then do the do-release-upgrade	02:14
nixternal	tor: speak up now or forever hold your peace	02:15
bishopz	nixternal: good evening	02:15
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nixternal	wasabi	02:15
amazed	hi bishopz	02:15
nixternal	forever hold that peace!	02:15
GWild	haha	02:15
Huntz	lol	02:15
DaSkreech	peace. OUT!	02:15
bishopz	amazed: hi wanna connect ? ;x	02:15
bishopz	lol _tor go buhbye	02:15
amazed	lol	02:15
* DaSkreech high fives nixternal		02:16
bishopz	nixternal: tyvm	02:16
DaSkreech	nixternal: I owe you a Buju Cd :)	02:16
bishopz	hey wheres mine	02:16
bishopz	dahell is this crap	02:16
Huntz	laf	02:16
Silentstri	how do I view the contents of a CD with a kubuntu v 6.06 non-update?	02:17
Silentstri	can someone tell me what program i should use to open CD's on kubuntu	02:18
Silentstri	?	02:18
DaSkreech	Silentstri: Konqueror	02:18
bishopz	^	02:18
Silentstri	its giving error	02:18
DaSkreech	Which error?	02:18
bishopz	-kicks my vlc- STOP FREEZING	02:19
bishopz	sorry emotional outburst	02:19
EtFb	yowshi: Did you solve your time display problem?	02:20
yowshi	not yet	02:20
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* EtFb wrote tiem instead of time at first. Too many LOLcats!		02:20
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Silentstri	"could not mount device. the reported error was: Mount:block device /dev/hdc is write protected, mounting in read-only. MOUNT: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/hdc missing codepage or other error in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg \| tail or so	02:20
yowshi	query whats the dasboard thing	02:20
EtFb	yowshi: It's in regional settings (or whatever it's called) in System Settings.	02:20
bishopz	keyword for today: mounting	02:20
bishopz	lol	02:20
Silentstri	i dunno what that means...	02:21
EtFb	yowshi: Change the format for how short time is displayed. There are examples in the drop-downs.	02:21
GWild	adept is stating there is an error removing an installed package (gvim). Is there a way to remove this manually?	02:21
Peeeeeet	Hey all	02:21
Silentstri	so how do I fix?	02:21
bishopz	honestly, mounting - not my thing, daskreech saved my neck with mounting my drive	02:22
Silentstri	i gotta go to bed.... school 2morrow	02:22
Silentstri	><	02:22
Silentstri	k thanks for everything to everyone who helped me, especially anarchy, daskreech and bishopz	02:23
yowshi	how do i change something position on a panelk?	02:23
Silentstri	ciao	02:23
Silentstri	right click	02:23
DaSkreech	yowshi: It's a collection of widgets you want to see quickly. by default it's your desktop	02:23
bishopz	anytime	02:23
Silentstri	:P gnight all	02:23
Peeeeeet	so is there any niceties to asking a question here? (the irony of asking that is not lost on me)	02:23
bishopz	see ya tomorrow	02:23
bishopz	(most likely)	02:23
bishopz	lolol	02:23
Silentstri	lol ciao	02:23
yowshi	DaSkreech: but my desktop used to have all my often used files and most used directories. i used it to store stuff on	02:24
Peeeeeet	I've been in plenty of support irc channels that get crabby if you ask a question "out of turn" or something	02:24
EtFb	Peeeeeet: Ask your question. If anyone can think of an answer, they will probably answer it. If they can't, think about it from a different angle and try again.	02:25
bishopz	^	02:25
yowshi	tjhough kde has the reall cool drop down menu for seeing whats on the desktop	02:25
EtFb	Peeeeeet: A lot of IRC channels are populated by people with no (a) life, (b) clue, or (c) chance of ever getting out of their parents' basement. This is not such a channel.	02:25
evan_	Anybody know how to disable plasma as part of the startkde sequence? Or where it gets called? I run KDE4 atop ion3, and don't use any desktop whatsoever. I just want to comment out the exec of plasma itself.	02:25
bishopz	wow, reality just kicked in... its 9:25, im watching fricking madagascar2 and coding..	02:25
bishopz	i need a life=	02:26
DaSkreech	yowshi: What version of KDE are you using?	02:26
Peeeeeet	EtFb: glad to hear it :)	02:26
yowshi	DaSkreech: i am guessing the last one to come out 4.2 something	02:26
DaSkreech	yowshi: open dolphin and help -> about KDE	02:27
Peeeeeet	Well I just installed Kubuntu 8.10 AMD64 then after starting up the first thing I do is activate the proprietary nvidia driver and when I restart it lands in command line. How would I "deactivate" said proprietary driver from command line?	02:27
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evan_	(Incidentally, for anybody who cares, most plasmoids run perfectly nicely in the frames of a framing window manager)	02:27
yowshi	DaSkreech: 4.2.00	02:27
DaSkreech	yowshi: ok cool	02:27
DaSkreech	You have two options for your files	02:28
DaSkreech	You can put a folder view on your desktop or you can make your desktop a folderview	02:28
EtFb	Peeeeeet: I'd love to know that too. I fiddled with 8.10 for a while and the stupid changes to xorg.conf were a major reason I went scarpering back to the safety of 8.04, which still has KDE 3.5, the last known functioning version of KDE...	02:29
yowshi	i had a desktop folder view thingy on the desktop before but i closed it i didnt know what it ws other then a folder	02:29
yowshi	and now i dont know how to get it back	02:29
yowshi	the desktop folder view was open when i launched kde	02:29
Slartibartfast	Peeeeeet, can't you just change nvidia in xorg.conf to nv ?	02:29
EtFb	yowshi: This is KDE 4?	02:29
yowshi	EtFb: yes 4.2.00	02:30
EtFb	Slartibartfast: xorg.conf is dead in KDE 4.	02:30
yowshi	kde 4 doesnt use xorg.conf?	02:30
EtFb	yowshi: Click on the cashew (the stupid little icon in the top left of the desktop) and fiddle with the settings there.	02:30
JontheEchidna	it has nothing to do with KDE4, but rather that xorg.conf is dead in the New Xorg	02:30
JontheEchidna	and if you still have an xorg.conf it will use it	02:30
Peeeeeet	yeah KDE 4.2	02:31
Slartibartfast	i still really have Driver "nvidia"	02:31
Peeeeeet	I'll try changing nvidia to nv	02:31
yowshi	EtFb: cool	02:31
EtFb	JontheEchidna: Bugger. Really? I was hoping it was yet another stupid KDE 4 decision that would be reversed. And my experience is that it won't use the xorg.conf unless you put in the right stuff, and there's no way any more to know what that is, because the comments and helpful defaults are gone.	02:31
JontheEchidna	nah, xorg changes all the way	02:31
yowshi	EtFb: the show desktop widget thingy doesnt actually minimize any windows :(	02:32
DaSkreech	yowshi: Do you want that view or all the icons on your desktop as before ?	02:32
gustavo	buenas no puedo ver videos online alguien me puede ayudar?	02:32
yowshi	DaSkreech: yeah etfb told me how. i put all my most used apps onto my panel i dont need a widget dashboard	02:32
DaSkreech	!es	02:33
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	02:33
EtFb	yowshi: I was understanding your problem as follows: there used to be a black square on your desktop (top left quarter or so) that had the desktop icons in it. It's gone. You want it back. Is that right?	02:33
gustavo	sorry thanks =)	02:33
yowshi	EtFb: nope	02:33
DaSkreech	EtFb: KDE can't really decide not to us xorg.conf without not using X which is kinda dumb	02:33
yowshi	EtFb: though i like that drop down menu for the desktop folder and i am keeping it.	02:34
EtFb	yowshi: Well, then! I've solved a problem you didn't have! Aren't you grateful? Now you don't have that problem twice!	02:34
DaSkreech	the xorg.conf changes are fully Xorg's choice. They are trying to get to a point where if you delete xorg.conf X will still work and all changes will be in the GUI	02:34
Huntz	daskreech: so how should i do this	02:34
EtFb	DaSkreech: And in the process are Gnome-ifying X, ie making it so simple that only an idiot would/could use it. Very un-KDE.	02:35
yowshi	EtFb: mno my problem was i wanted my folder and stuff i had on my desktop back on my desktop. when you said the little cashew thing i minimized all windows and atrted looking around and changed desktop to folder view	02:35
yowshi	EtFb: now i need a way to minimize all windows	02:35
DaSkreech	Huntz: run the sudo do-release-upgrade. lets take it from the top	02:35
yowshi	a mouse action would nbe nice	02:35
EtFb	yowshi: That works too. I'd forgotten that option.	02:35
DaSkreech	Huntz: pastebin your sources.list first	02:35
Peeeeeet	hm, changing it to nv didn't do it	02:35
Peeeeeet	I'm thinkin the suggestion to go 8.04 is a good one	02:35
yowshi	also would be ince o know how to move icons around the panel to put them in the order i want	02:35
EtFb	Peeeeeet: Try vesa.	02:35
Huntz	where am I gonna pull a source list from	02:35
DaSkreech	EtFb: Xorg is neither Gnome nor KDE. Both have very little say in Xorg though they both have influence	02:36
EtFb	Peeeeeet: I gave Intrepid a good couple of weeks, and when kubuntu-experimental got 4.2 I really thought it might work. But too much is broken. I'm sticking with Hardy for a while.	02:36
Peeeeeet	EtFb: tried that before I came here (that's what's in xorg.conf.failsafe... not so failsafeish after all)	02:36
DaSkreech	yowshi: click the cashew at the end of the panel and then just drag them around	02:36
DaSkreech	Huntz: did you remake it in adept ?	02:37
yowshi	DaSkreech: thanks	02:37
EtFb	DaSkreech: Not saying they're the same, just that they're tending toward the Gnome attitude (make it simple) instead of the KDE one (make everything configurable).	02:37
Huntz	no when you said start over I thoughwe were gonna do somethin different	02:37
EtFb	DaSkreech: The trouble with that is that sometimes I want to be able to make changes that disagree with what their software thinks is best.	02:38
Slartibartfast	Peeeeeet, just apt-get remove the nvidia stuff won't help?	02:38
DaSkreech	EtFb: the idea is it never disrespects the xorg.conf	02:38
DaSkreech	if you put one in with all sorts of stuff it will follow it	02:38
DaSkreech	but if you don't even have one it should still work	02:39
bishopz	im ready to drop kick ubuntu	02:39
Peeeeeet	Slartibartfast: i don't know what the nvidia stuff is, how do u get apt-get to list what stuff is instaleld?	02:39
yowshi	how do i change the [panel colours	02:39
DaSkreech	so the first thing is to make the xorg.conf as minimalist as possible	02:39
bishopz	and forget about compiz and themes	02:39
Slartibartfast	See what is installed with dpkg -l nvidia	02:39
DaSkreech	yowshi: Themes	02:39
EtFb	DaSkreech: I guess I just need to know more about the xorg.conf syntax then. I could never get it to behave.	02:39
DaSkreech	under appearance settings	02:39
yowshi	DaSkreech: where is thta located?	02:39
DaSkreech	Right click the desktop and appearance settings -> themes	02:39
bishopz	-perks- themes	02:40
Slartibartfast	Peeeeeet, whats listed with a ii in the first column is installed	02:40
bishopz	lol	02:41
DaSkreech	bishopz: What do you want from Compiz?	02:41
russlar	so, how long should I expect it to take to rsync 160GB of data from one USB disk to another?	02:41
bishopz	something nice. i dont know	02:42
Peeeeeet	yeah, i see em, nvidia-177 and such, that's the ones i installed in KDE	02:42
DaSkreech	bishopz: Did you try kwin ?	02:42
bishopz	lol. i cant seem to get it right	02:42
bishopz	no	02:42
russlar	bishopz: I'm a fan of snow	02:42
DaSkreech	It has somethign nice :)	02:42
bishopz	hmmmm	02:42
bishopz	where is it.	02:42
russlar	in kwin	02:42
Slartibartfast	Peeeeeet so remoce them ... with apt-get --purge remove	02:42
Slartibartfast	remove	02:43
russlar	and outside	02:43
[TCK]	anyone have any reasons why upgrading to KDE4.2 from a fresh 8.10 would result in broken dependencies and an unusable system?	02:43
bishopz	wait kwin is diff from compiz?	02:43
russlar	yes	02:43
yowshi	arg	02:43
bishopz	apt-get kwin	02:43
bishopz	correct	02:43
bishopz	?	02:43
yowshi	bloody fade out names in the window tabs	02:43
yowshi	i like aya but i dont like the nam fade thing	02:44
russlar	[TCK]: some of the 4.1 packages need to be removed in order for 4.2 to work	02:44
russlar	[TCK]: try upgrading from a terminal session	02:44
bishopz	3d wrap and all on this?	02:44
Peeeeeet	Slartibartfast: That did it, thanks.	02:45
Slartibartfast	welcome	02:46
[TCK]	that makes sense	02:47
Peeeeeet	So is the general consensus to stay with 8.04 / KDE 3.5 for the time being?	02:47
[TCK]	do it tomorrow though, need to be awake in 4 hours	02:47
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russlar	Peeeeeet: it;s up to you	02:47
[TCK]	Peeeeeet: stability wise, yes	02:48
russlar	4.2 is very close to where 3.5 was	02:48
[TCK]	4.2 is close though	02:48
russlar	question for those running already 4.2: is there any real reason to upgrade when jaunty comes out?	02:50
russlar	I don't need ext4 on a laptop	02:50
bishopz	anyone know the sudo for gnome-themes	02:50
[TCK]	russlar: of note, can't actually get into a terminal application, most of what's broken is core kde stuff such as window decorations that won't let me type in terminals or password request boxes. Probably just re-reinstall	02:50
russlar	[TCK]: crtrl+alt+F1?	02:51
russlar	question for those running already 4.2: is there any real reason to upgrade when jaunty comes out?	02:51
bishopz	not really... mostly bug fixes	02:52
bishopz	:-P	02:52
[TCK]	ah yes, forgot about that, thanks russlar	02:52
OxDeadC0de	anyone else here use Qt 4.5 with kde 4.2?	02:53
DaSkreech	what's aya ?	02:53
russlar	OxDeadC0de: if I am, I wouldn't know it	02:53
russlar	DaSkreech: the default theme in opensuse	02:54
OxDeadC0de	russlar: plasma --version	02:54
DaSkreech	russlar: 4.3	02:54
OxDeadC0de	(or if using kde-nightly/trunk plasma-desktop --version)	02:54
OxDeadC0de	well, duh, if you're using trunk/nightly you have to be using 4.5 (kde won't compile without it now)	02:54
russlar	nope	02:55
russlar	4.4.3	02:55
DaSkreech	russlar: I'm saying a good reason to be on Jaunty os 4.3	02:55
Wargasm	howcome after all updates it still says 4.1?	02:55
Wargasm	isn't 4.2 official	02:55
OxDeadC0de	yes	02:55
Wargasm	how do i upgrade	02:55
OxDeadC0de	4.2 isn't in the official 8.10 repo's	02:56
OxDeadC0de	see topic	02:56
Wargasm	ok thanks	02:56
OxDeadC0de	http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2	02:56
Wargasm	ty	02:56
russlar	DaSkreech: kde 4.3 won't be out until june though	02:56
OxDeadC0de	4.3 will rock though..	02:56
russlar	jaunty lands in april	02:56
Slartibartfast	OxDeadC0de, how you know :-) ?	02:57
russlar	OxDeadC0de: it'll be rock if they code-name it granite	02:57
OxDeadC0de	Slartibartfast I try to follow some of the development, specifically in #plasma and plasma mailing list	02:57
russlar	anything else is just a dot release	02:57
OxDeadC0de	haha russlar	02:58
Slartibartfast	OxDeadC0de, can you share with us a little about these rocking new features ?	02:58
DaSkreech	russlar: Yes but when it comes out jaunty will get the updates	02:58
DaSkreech	Ibex likely will not	02:58
russlar	ahh	02:58
bishopz	bex def wont	02:58
yowshi	note to self. do not run compiz on kde	02:58
DaSkreech	At least it's the reason I update	02:58
OxDeadC0de	mainly qt4.5, bugfix's up the wazoo, new programs, new containments, Amarok is going to have some special accoustic based dynamic playlists (analyzes songs in your playlist to find others that match accoustically)	02:58
DaSkreech	It's kinda fun every 3 months I have something to look forward to	02:59
bishopz	yowshi: what happened	02:59
bishopz	DaSkreech: LOL	02:59
DaSkreech	Major kubutu update then major KDE update then major kubuntu update	02:59
DaSkreech	It's fun :)	02:59
Slartibartfast	mmmm ok :-) ...	02:59
russlar	if only they'd sync	02:59
yowshi	bishopz: mouse locked. i could move the cursor but the buttons didnt do anything.	02:59
DaSkreech	Not going to happen unless Gnome blinks	02:59
russlar	major KDe release, then a month later major kubu release	02:59
bishopz	yowshi: wtf!	03:00
Huntz	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121660/ it hasnt changed much	03:00
DaSkreech	and Gnome's thing is it doesn't blink	03:00
OxDeadC0de	russlar I wish... would have saved a ton of heartache over 4.1 :P	03:00
yowshi	bishopz: in actuality that happened after i tried to shut down compiz	03:00
DaSkreech	yowshi: if you can alt+ctrl+F1 and then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart	03:00
bishopz	yowshi: thats an odd glitch, when i tried to run them both, my screen just went completely black	03:00
Slartibartfast	isn't kde 4.3 planned for june ?	03:00
russlar	Slartibartfast: yup	03:01
bishopz	june/july	03:01
yowshi	DaSkreech: thanks i didnt know about the kdm resxtart problem is i am neve going to remember the folder thing that goes befoe the kdm rewstart	03:01
OxDeadC0de	the kde website would be the best resource to find release dates slartibartfast	03:01
russlar	my guess is that it'll show up in the expermental ppa	03:01
russlar	then backports	03:01
OxDeadC0de	slartibartfast, I like the name btw ;)	03:01
yowshi	DaSkreech: thats the kind of thing iwould normally build an app launcher for	03:01
OxDeadC0de	reminds me of a trilogy I read once	03:01
Slartibartfast	:-D	03:01
Slartibartfast	42	03:01
OxDeadC0de	exactly.	03:02
russlar	I was going to comment on the name, but it's not that important	03:02
OxDeadC0de	and there were 5 books in it.. oddest thing ever	03:02
OxDeadC0de	how improbable.	03:02
yowshi	ok everything is in working order except the tiny pidgin thing and the fact i dont have any of my gnome panl app launchers	03:02
Slartibartfast	hehehe ... no other book made me laugh that loud	03:02
DaSkreech	yowshi: no good if you can't click it :-P	03:03
Huntz	daskreech: you catch that link	03:03
bishopz	ohno! my mom was on	03:03
russlar	I liked the part where they saw the entire universe, with a little box that said "you are here"	03:03
bishopz	lol	03:03
amazed	lol	03:03
Slartibartfast	:-)	03:03
russlar	there are worse things she can catch you doing	03:03
amazed	yeah there is.	03:03
bishopz	lmfao. man my moms been thru hell with me behind a comp	03:04
bishopz	ina 5 year span...3 federal raids	03:04
bishopz	i think when she passed away, she actually whispered.. leave the comp alone	03:04
OxDeadC0de	god the whole damn thing was awesome, the movie didn't give it justice but was still fun to watch..	03:04
russlar	that may not be somehting to be proud of?	03:04
DaSkreech	Huntz: You have two backports lines	03:04
yowshi	DaSkreech: know what else resarts kdm? alt + crtl + backspace :)	03:04
bishopz	well , intelligence + boredom+ drugs = not always the best combo	03:05
bishopz	lol	03:05
amazed	yeah and being your wife isn't a walk in the park. just saying.	03:05
Huntz	ya for some reason adaept isnt changing it	03:05
russlar	yowshi: that restarts the entire X server, too	03:05
bishopz	baby u love being my wife ;/	03:05
yowshi	i know it does	03:05
Huntz	somehow we got tainted donuts	03:05
yowshi	couldnt i just go alt + ctrl + f1 sudo killall kdm then kdm?	03:05
OxDeadC0de	He's the most important man in the universe.... according to the machine that analyzes (what was it.. buntcake?) and calculates the entirety of the universe from it... at least.. that universe..	03:05
Slartibartfast	the answer is still 42 :-P .... after those millions of years :-D	03:06
OxDeadC0de	yeah, but what's the question my friend?:P	03:07
yowshi	the infinite perspective machine	03:07
yowshi	or was it just the perspective machine	03:07
DaSkreech	yowshi: yes :)	03:07
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OxDeadC0de	hey, someone has to give nagging house-wifes perspective somehow...	03:07
OxDeadC0de	gj!	03:08
bishopz	lolol	03:08
yowshi	i want a cup held up by art	03:08
DaSkreech	yowshi: yes but my way is more humane :)	03:08
russlar	good luck with that	03:08
yowshi	DaSkreech: meh humane is for humans i kill my machine any way i please :)	03:09
yowshi	DaSkreech: and i can actually remember the commands i use	03:09
DaSkreech	Huntz: ok that one doesn't resolve on a sudo apt-get update anyway right ?	03:09
OxDeadC0de	bishopz mix in alcohol witht hat combo you listed above, and you have me right now..	03:09
Huntz	!effects of dynamite on EOL	03:09
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	03:09
Slartibartfast	what is the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything	03:09
DaSkreech	yowshi: for information sakes all daemons are in /etc/init.d	03:09
bishopz	lolol	03:09
yowshi	DaSkreech: yeah i am probably ont gonna be able to remember that either	03:09
DaSkreech	If you look in there all stuff running in the background and at startup are in there	03:09
yowshi	DaSkreech: in order to remember something i must understnd it	03:10
DaSkreech	yowshi: It's the same directory	03:10
DaSkreech	yowshi: That's why I'm explaining	03:10
yowshi	DaSkreech: yeah but what the heck is init.d?	03:10
DaSkreech	When you initalize your computer it runs the scripts in init.d	03:10
bishopz	initi...	03:10
bishopz	nvm	03:10
DaSkreech	the initiliaztion directory	03:10
DaSkreech	init	03:10
russlar	yowshi: init is the startup script from unix	03:10
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DaSkreech	:-p	03:10
yowshi	then why is there a .d in it?	03:11
DaSkreech	To show it's a directory	03:11
russlar	daemon	03:11
DaSkreech	like .jpg shows it's a jpeg	03:11
OxDeadC0de	thank god for the guide or I'd never laugh.. Well, maybe not "God", but you know what I mean....	03:11
DaSkreech	it's different from the init file	03:11
russlar	he proved himself not to exist	03:11
DaSkreech	yowshi: All scripts in there take either start stop or restart as an option	03:12
bishopz	my eyes, feel heavvvvy	03:12
yowshi	i see so there is an init file and it calls up the init directory but so keep confusion down they added a .d to the directory	03:12
DaSkreech	so /etc/init.d/mysql start will start the mysql database	03:12
DaSkreech	Right	03:12
Huntz	daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121662/	03:12
DaSkreech	which has a bunch of scripts	03:12
BattleStarJesus	Do any of you know how to change miro settings?	03:12
yowshi	well now i will probably rmember it	03:12
Huntz	now we losst the Fin backport again	03:13
russlar	if you write it down, you won't have to remember :-p	03:13
yowshi	i like how after rebooting kde keeps the windows open that were open	03:13
OxDeadC0de	hmm ogre3d in the repo's is quite old.. 1.4.9 , the latest release is 1.7.0	03:14
DaSkreech	Huntz: you clicked backports in Adept ?	03:14
OxDeadC0de	(well, trunk is 1.7.0 at least...)	03:14
yowshi	grrr what is with the pidgin posting stickiness	03:14
DaSkreech	yowshi: Yeah it's cool eh?	03:14
Huntz	that was the one with that dogfood/launchpad.net	03:14
Huntz	still think roll with it?	03:15
yowshi	it should just show the new post not scroll the new post onto the screen	03:15
yowshi	is there a kde alternative to compiz?	03:15
russlar	yowshi: kwin	03:15
OxDeadC0de	yowshi it's not new, but it's upgraded to compete with compiz	03:15
bishopz	kwin	03:15
OxDeadC0de	what they said	03:15
yowshi	cool	03:15
bishopz	lol	03:15
DaSkreech	Huntz: in adept for updates you had checked backports?	03:16
DaSkreech	yowshi: kwin	03:16
DaSkreech	bishopz: tried kwin ?	03:16
OxDeadC0de	rofl	03:16
Peeeeeet	Yeah, I just noticed that, it still says KDE 4.1 when I'm starting up	03:16
yowshi	arg why isnt kwin in adept?	03:16
bishopz	im checking it out now, as far as requirements	03:16
bishopz	and such	03:17
* OxDeadC0de recompiles ogre3d from trunk		03:17
bishopz	-on ubuntu 8.10	03:17
bishopz	gnome	03:17
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bishopz	so im reading a little.	03:17
DaSkreech	yowshi: it's probably installed already	03:17
DaSkreech	yowshi: run kwin --replace	03:17
bishopz	thatll replace the compiz config.	03:17
bishopz	?	03:17
yowshi	that worked how do i adjust what effcts are used by kwin?	03:18
yowshi	ah alt f2 and find the desktop effects editor	03:18
DaSkreech	yowshi: alt+F3 Window Properties	03:18
DaSkreech	It's easy after that	03:19
DaSkreech	Wait	03:19
DaSkreech	Window Behaviour	03:19
yowshi	DaSkreech: alt + f3 does nothing	03:20
faileas	!aptfix	03:21
ubottu	If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	03:21
bishopz	brb sidhes to be done	03:21
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bishopz	uhm	03:21
bishopz	dishes*	03:21
faileas	hmm	03:22
faileas	i got an error massage sayin "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable" i tried the usual thing ( as above) but it dosen't seem to help. any ideas?	03:22
yowshi	DaSkreech: there isnt much guidance in how to set this up is there	03:22
faileas	oh, fixed it ;p	03:23
amazed	grats	03:23
Huntz	arg, it keeps on shrinking every time I try and put backports on I loose one rep	03:23
khalid	quiero ver el escritorio en forma de cubo y no me funciona. También en la pestana efectos visuales de Sistema/Preferencias/Apariencia me aparecen sólo 3 opciones y me dicen que debe haber una más llamada personalizar o algo así, pero no me aparece. Desde ya muchas gracias.	03:25
Huntz	I am thinking of entering in the old one from edgy and changing it to feisty and starting the 7.04 to 7.10 from the top	03:25
amazed	if only I could respond in spanish appropriately.	03:25
faileas	!es	03:25
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	03:25
DaSkreech	yowshi: you have kwin running?	03:25
faileas	Huntz: i suspect you'd be better off backing up and reinstalling	03:26
khalid	no mi han ayudado de nada	03:26
faileas	thats just me	03:26
yowshi	DaSkreech: yes and i sed alt + f2 to run the desktop effects configurer but i cant make much out of it	03:26
Huntz	lol	03:27
DaSkreech	yowshi: press alt+space	03:28
DaSkreech	what happens?	03:28
DaSkreech	Huntz: Ok where are we?	03:28
yowshi		03:29
Huntz	I ahve just enter the old repo list from edgy	03:29
Huntz	and I am looking at the perl line thinking I need to input some stuff	03:30
yowshi	DaSkreech: nothing	03:31
yowshi	DaSkreech: but i have other effects like the flip screen for desktops when i move my mouse to the midle bottom	03:31
DaSkreech	yowshi: When you click the right most corner of a window what happens	03:31
dan-gar	hi	03:31
yowshi	DaSkreech: nothing theres a cashew there for the top panel	03:32
Huntz	DaSkreech: sudo perl -p -i.ORIG -e 's/(?:(?:\w+.)?archive\|security).(ubuntu.com)/old-releases.$1/' /etc/apt/sources.list	03:32
DaSkreech	yowshi: not the screen. The window	03:32
DaSkreech	.ORIG?	03:32
Huntz	does that line read right or do I need to put in some of my own info inplace of something	03:32
Huntz	that or else I go through and hand edit it like I did last time	03:33
yowshi	DaSkreech: the maximize button?	03:33
DaSkreech	yowshi: You have a maximize button on the far right corner of your window?	03:34
DaSkreech	Wait	03:34
DaSkreech	left	03:34
DaSkreech	:-)	03:34
DaSkreech	Huntz: Where did you get .ORIG from ?	03:34
yowshi	DaSkreech: thats where the close button is	03:34
DaSkreech	yowshi: on the left?	03:34
Huntz	the very first perl command for changing edgy repos to feissty repos	03:34
yowshi	DaSkreech: top left corner	03:34
DaSkreech	Serious? that's where the close button is?	03:35
yowshi	of this window anyway	03:35
yowshi	yes thats where it has always been	03:35
DaSkreech	Huntz: sudo perl -p -i.feisty -e 's/old-releases.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list	03:35
yowshi	you wantg me to close a window?	03:35
DaSkreech	yowshi: No I'm trying to figure out what window manager you are running	03:35
yowshi	isnt there a command for that?	03:36
Huntz	but its not old releases yet	03:36
DaSkreech	Huntz: You did the do-release-upgrade ?	03:36
Huntz	I cut and pasted the first repo list in the site because I know it works	03:36
DaSkreech	ok just copy that line	03:36
DaSkreech	then have feisty-backports	03:36
Huntz	well its all the way back to edgy	03:37
DaSkreech	then do a sudo apt-get update to see if it likes you	03:37
Huntz	so I have to convert edgy to feisty	03:37
DaSkreech	Huntz: What? How are you on edgy ?	03:37
DaSkreech	Huntz: lsb_release -a	03:37
Huntz	just borrowed the repo list	03:37
PSiL0	hmmm, I wonder when ati can come up with decent drivers for linux (specifically for (k)ubuntu).. 9.1 was a disaster for me, 9.2 thankfully fixed most of the really glaring bugs, and xv video output finally looks seamless, but dpms is crippled :(	03:37
Huntz	I am still in feisty	03:37
DaSkreech	yowshi: not really. ok open a terminal	03:37
yowshi	DaSkreech: alt + f3 just popped up some kind of menu	03:38
DaSkreech	yowshi: with window behaviour ?	03:38
DaSkreech	at the bottom ?	03:38
yowshi	DaSkreech: yes	03:38
DaSkreech	Ok you are in kwin choose that then play with your effects	03:38
PSiL0	back to 8.543 fglrx (10/08 release) which has the flickering bug, but it is still more stable	03:38
Huntz	so I am not gonna update apt until I change it to fiesty	03:38
DaSkreech	Huntz: Ok	03:38
Huntz	or just to gutsy maybe?	03:38
DaSkreech	Huntz: No lets do this as slow as possible	03:39
PSiL0	I wonder what happened to 8.55x? must've never made it out of pre-release...	03:39
DaSkreech	I just read the frst line of the instructions	03:39
DaSkreech	This upgrade did not go as smooth as I expected.	03:39
DaSkreech	Heh	03:39
yowshi	DaSkreech: but i dont see any spot for changing what activates any particular effect	03:40
DaSkreech	yowshi: When you click window behaviour you get adialog with Desktop effects?	03:41
yowshi	yes	03:41
DaSkreech	yowshi: you can play with all the effects in the All effects tab	03:42
DaSkreech	Huntz: Where are we now?	03:45
Huntz	do-release-upgrade	03:45
DaSkreech	Ok	03:46
DaSkreech	It's downloading ?	03:46
DaSkreech	No errors?	03:46
DaSkreech	Huntz: btw did you upgrade the system first?	03:46
Huntz	no	03:47
Huntz	it doesnt say to do that btween 7.04 to 7.10	03:48
DaSkreech	Huntz: Grr do that first	03:48
yowshi	DaSkreech: no scroll wheel for the alt + tab thing?	03:48
DaSkreech	where?	03:48
DaSkreech	yowshi: Hmm?	03:48
Huntz	the EOLupgrade we been using	03:48
DaSkreech	Scroll wheel works for me	03:48
Huntz	my scolly works	03:48
yowshi	DaSkreech: when you alt tab you have the the flip or cover thing but you cant rotate through the optiosn with the scroll wheel. or i cant	03:49
Huntz	I know why we didnt need to daskreech, there nothing to upgrade	03:50
DaSkreech	ok	03:51
DaSkreech	yowshi: Flip doesn't work Cover does	03:51
Huntz	do-release-upgrade again?	03:51
Huntz	or go with the one I got?	03:51
Huntz	bah rolling with step by step	03:52
yowshi	DaSkreech: yeah i have cover switch active i was wondering if there was a way to get the scroll wheel to scroll through the availablew windows	03:52
SiVA__	how do I make the clock/calendar widget display the time in 12hour format? So simple...	03:52
SiVA__	Its the "Digital Clock" widget	03:52
yowshi	also where do i change the number of desktops so i can get an actual cube going	03:53
DaSkreech	yowshi: I just scroll wheel on the taskbar normally	03:54
DaSkreech	Huntz: yeah lets try this step by step	03:54
yowshi	thats a bit nifty	03:54
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yowshi	i need a good minimize effect and there is no burn :(	03:54
Huntz	ok up to perl line for changing diesssssty notations to gutsy	03:55
Huntz	oops	03:55
DaSkreech	yowshi: Yeahno burn	03:55
DaSkreech	Huntz: Hmm?	03:55
DaSkreech	yowshi: Right click the desktop pager on the panel and configure desktops	03:56
Huntz	ok ready to try frontend distupgrade command again, Cross you fingers and toes	03:56
DaSkreech	Huntz: This really shouldnt be this hard :-(	03:58
Huntz	there has got to be something missing	03:59
Huntz	that is not my fault somewhere	03:59
yowshi	how do i get it to let me drag windows from one desktop to another?	03:59
DaSkreech	Yeah I know	03:59
DaSkreech	yowshi: If you have edge detection just drag to the edge of the screen	03:59
yowshi	wheres edge direction?	04:00
DaSkreech	hi russlar	04:00
DaSkreech	Hold on let me find it	04:00
russlar	oi	04:00
DaSkreech	Huntz: same error?	04:00
yowshi	DaSkreech: draging it to the edge doesnt work it just stop where the cursor stops	04:00
Huntz	here Is the distupgrade command http://paste.ubuntu.com/121673/	04:00
DaSkreech	yowshi: Advanced -> active Window borders	04:02
Huntz	brb smoke break	04:03
yowshi	thanks	04:03
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yowshi	grrr cant drag a window from te 1st desktop to the third ah well	04:04
russlar	yowshi: can you use the application icon in the top left corner of the window decoration?	04:05
russlar	yowshi: that menu should have "To Desktop" options in it	04:06
DaSkreech	yowshi: huh?	04:06
yowshi	DaSkreech: i tried to drag a window around the "cube" but it just kept bouncing between 2 deskotps	04:07
DaSkreech	Huntz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121674/	04:07
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yowshi	and russlar while that may get the job domne it isnt the same thing. for one dragging it there is way cooler	04:07
Peeeeeet	Here's another question, kubuntu x86 or 64 bit? I know in windows land, x86 is more mainstream and better for compatibility but is that the same for kubuntu (linux in general)?	04:08
DaSkreech	yowshi: hmm how do you have your desktops setup ?	04:08
russlar	Peeeeeet: used to be true, but flash now works natively in x64	04:09
yowshi	DaSkreech: what do you mean?	04:09
Wargasm	try 64 if you don't mind wasting a lot of time.	04:09
Wargasm	but if you want it to work without a hitch go with 32bit	04:09
DaSkreech	yowshi: How many rows are they in ?	04:09
yowshi	i dont know for starters the top desk bar mysteriously got blanked out and now nothing will add to it afyter i moved it to one of the side edges trying to find this menu thing you were tallking about way back	04:11
Huntz	DaSkreech: where did you dig that up	04:11
yowshi	i was hoping it would settle when i rebooted kdm later	04:11
DaSkreech	Huntz: Shhhh the magic man does magic	04:11
Slartibartfast	Peeeeeet if you don't have more then 4 GB of RAM there is no need to run 64bit	04:11
yowshi	DaSkreech: theyare now in one row	04:12
Huntz	lol, so you want me to past that into sources?	04:12
DaSkreech	yowshi: ok so just drag from left to right	04:12
DaSkreech	Huntz: use that as your sources	04:12
Huntz	did it happen to say anything about a patch file	04:13
Granny	senility set in - was capable in MIRC - this is first time managed to arrive here	04:13
yowshi	DaSkreech: that still just bounces between 2 desktops	04:13
DaSkreech	yowshi: ok drag all the way to the bottom of the screen	04:14
DaSkreech	Huntz: The sources.list?	04:14
yowshi	that works	04:15
Huntz	no in paage where you got that	04:15
DaSkreech	yowshi: Good	04:15
DaSkreech	Huntz: I found someone with a feisty machine and got that from them	04:15
khalidmian	how do i connect to konversation using proxy server or do i need quassel for that	04:16
khalidmian	?	04:17
faileas	khalidmian: depends on the kind of proxy you want	04:17
khalidmian	http	04:18
faileas	http is a protocol on its own, as is irc	04:18
faileas	so... no, you can't i think	04:18
russlar	!irc	04:19
ubottu	A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines	04:19
russlar	well, that didn't help	04:19
russlar	!irc proxy	04:19
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about irc proxy	04:19
russlar	!proxy	04:19
ubottu	Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR and web (Java, etc) gateways due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks. If you're using mibbit, please try joining #ubuntu again. Mibbit takes a long time to connect, so you may have missed a message to do this.	04:19
russlar	!proxies	04:20
ubottu	"Proxies" are services acting as intermediate agents in various sorts of Internet connections. Examples are TOR, !apt-proxy, and HTTP proxies (such as "squid"). It is possible to install and use Ubuntu via some proxy connections: see FIXME	04:20
faileas	khalidmian: what do you need to do?	04:20
khalidmian	eh ....hide my ip for eg	04:20
faileas	erf...	04:21
faileas	then i have no idea	04:21
* faileas would generally use proxies to get around blocks ;p		04:21
* socceroos_ watches proxies to fight against each other - the pulse of awakening.		04:22
Huntz	blah	04:22
bishopz	-yawns-	04:22
DaSkreech	Huntz: blah?	04:22
Huntz	DaSkreech: smaething	04:23
DaSkreech	samething	04:23
DaSkreech	ah ok	04:23
russlar	*	04:23
Huntz	the upgrade tool must be fualty also	04:23
DaSkreech	Huntz: what was the steps you did?	04:23
Huntz	from the top	04:24
Huntz	put in the repo	04:24
Huntz	changed old-releases to archive like it says	04:25
yowshi	hmmm fiefox titlebar is now blocking the tabbed window bar. i know i saw a fix option for this where was it	04:25
Huntz	the archive to security for security like it says	04:25
Huntz	and fiesty to gutsy like it says	04:25
Huntz	then from the tmp file the distupgrade like it says	04:26
Huntz	and it all end in the same stuff	04:26
yowshi	how do i turn off kwin?	04:26
bishopz	hes not on my bl	04:27
DaSkreech	Huntz: You did sudo update and sudo do-release-upgrade ?	04:27
DaSkreech	yowshi: in favour of what?	04:27
yowshi	DaSkreech: as in when i am done playing with it turn it off	04:28
yowshi	DaSkreech: in case of glitch or whatever	04:28
russlar	yowshi: you can turn off composting (kwin) in the desktop section of System Settings	04:28
Huntz	yes	04:28
DaSkreech	yowshi: In favour of what? :)	04:28
russlar	yowshi: there's a widget available that puts an on/off switch on the desktop	04:28
DaSkreech	yowshi: It's a window manager if you just turn it off you can't move any windows	04:29
DaSkreech	yowshi: Do you want to turn off the special effects?	04:29
yowshi	DaSkreech: in favor of the default manager	04:29
DaSkreech	kwin is the default manager	04:29
russlar	kwin is the default manager	04:29
russlar	if you want to turn off the effects, you can do that in system settings	04:29
yowshi	didnt i have to kind of turn it on to get any effects with kwin --replace?	04:29
russlar	!kwin	04:29
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kwin	04:29
russlar	gfd!!!	04:30
yowshi	yes how do i turn off the effects	04:30
russlar	under desktop	04:30
DaSkreech	yowshi: Thats cause you had compiz	04:30
russlar	in system settings	04:30
yowshi	without going through the lengthly process of deselecting every effect]	04:31
DaSkreech	yowshi: press alt+shift+F12	04:31
russlar	there's a checkbox right at the front	04:31
DaSkreech	yowshi: Turns off everything till next reboot	04:31
DaSkreech	yowshi: to turn of everything until you say when just uncheck desktop effects	04:31
yowshi	where the heck was that fire fox fix grumbles	04:32
russlar	yowshi: which one?	04:32
russlar	the scrollbar fix?	04:32
yowshi	the titlebar fix	04:33
russlar	?	04:33
russlar	didn't know there was one	04:33
yowshi	well the firefox titlebar is covering up the tab bar	04:33
russlar	never seen that before	04:33
yowshi	i saw it mentioned sowehre in my early wanderingsbut since my firefox worked perfectly i didnt pay much atention to where	04:35
bishopz	goodnight to all	04:58
bishopz	swee ya tomorrow, most likely	04:59
wildbat	hi\	05:06
quassel104	codecs!	05:12
quassel104	!codecs	05:12
ubottu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	05:12
gothpaw	Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a USB drive.... See here for details --> http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html	05:13
russlar	what sort of issues?	05:13
gothpaw	russlar: too much to put here which is why I added the link to nopaste	05:15
Peeeeeet	Did I hear people recommending "Kwin" over compiz?	05:15
russlar	Peeeeeet: yes	05:15
russlar	gothpaw: can you summarize?	05:16
gothpaw	russlar: sure, drive wont mount and gives me errors	05:17
russlar	what sort of usb drive?	05:17
russlar	stick or hard drive	05:17
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DaSkreech	gothpaw: leave out the -t	05:19
Peeeeeet	ah, but only for KDE 4+	05:19
DaSkreech	Peeeeeet: compiz isn't that good a window manager	05:20
gothpaw	DaSkreech: ok I'll try that now	05:20
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jose	hi	05:21
gothpaw	DaSkreech: removing the -t means I have to remove the vfat as well, else it mount just tells me the proper way to use the commands, and removing -t vfat just tells me I must specify the filesystem type	05:22
DaSkreech	gothpaw: ah try -t auto	05:22
brad__	how can i get kde 4.2 ?	05:23
gothpaw	DaSkreech: -t auto says I must specify the file system type	05:23
russlar	brad__: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2	05:24
DaSkreech	gothpaw: ok	05:24
jose	well from synaptic	05:24
jose	any know how kerel compile 2.6.28	05:25
brad__	no idea when they will be in the main resp ?	05:25
gothpaw	!kernel	05:25
ubottu	The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages	05:25
DaSkreech	brad__: When Jaunty ships	05:25
russlar	they won't	05:25
russlar	not in ibex	05:25
brad__	ah	05:25
russlar	they'r ein backports now	05:25
russlar	i think	05:25
jose	ok thanks	05:25
gothpaw	jose: see the ubottu msg	05:26
jose	i will see	05:26
DaSkreech	gothpaw: what does dmesg say?	05:26
gothpaw	DaSkreech: dmesg is huge, is there something particular I should paste at nopaste?	05:29
DaSkreech	gothpaw: not sure. what ever happens when you try mount	05:30
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brad__	that was fast	05:33
brad__	I'm going to test the new kde 4.2 now	05:34
gothpaw	DaSkreech: not sure what I'm looking for but so far I dont see anything relating to mounting the ISB drive	05:34
gothpaw	err, ISB=USB	05:34
gothpaw	DaSkreech: not sure if this helps --> http://rafb.net/p/DGMYFq42.html	05:38
brad__	it say's I've got packages held back.	05:40
brad__	http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2, trying to install kde 4.2	05:40
DaSkreech	brad__: which ones?	05:41
russlar	ignore them	05:41
brad__	looks like core kde	05:41
DaSkreech	you did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?	05:42
brad__	no, I'm only trying to install kde 4.2 from 4.1 in interpid	05:42
DaSkreech	gothpaw: ok I think all I saw was the drive get recognized at the end.	05:43
DaSkreech	gothpaw: What are all those device not accepting address errors?	05:44
brad__	of course I've ran it NOW that you mentioned it	05:44
DaSkreech	brad__: :-) What did it say?	05:44
brad__	now it's only hold back one.	05:45
brad__	gwenview	05:45
russlar	ignore that	05:46
russlar	htere's a new gwenview	05:46
russlar	you can remove gwenview, then upgrade	05:46
brad__	cool, what's it's package name ?	05:46
russlar	gwenview	05:46
brad__	not orginal	05:46
russlar	it'll get the rigt one after you upgrade	05:47
brad__	I have to unstall or it's automagic	05:47
cupcake_	Does ubuntu have a rc.conf file? I'm looking for my current system config	05:47
skept	KDE sucks!	05:47
skept	jks	05:47
russlar	cupcake_: which part of the system config?	05:49
russlar	cupcake_: startup services?	05:49
cupcake_	russlar: modules/daemons	05:49
russlar	cupcake_: /etc/modprobe.conf	05:49
russlar	cupcake_: runlevel	05:50
cupcake_	xorg.conf also seems minimal for my laptop..	05:50
russlar	thel ls -l /etc/rc{that runlevel}.d/	05:50
cupcake_	Id like to know how the keyboard/mouse is made	05:50
russlar	ibex doesn't use xorg.conf	05:50
cupcake_	ohh.. I'm generally an ARCH user	05:50
russlar	no worries	05:51
russlar	i spend my days in RHELHELL	05:51
gothpaw	DaSkreech: yea, think I pasted it wrong, sorry... as for all the other devices not accepting addresses, I have no clue what to say about that as all other devices are working on the box	05:54
DaSkreech	looks like the Mouse	05:54
cupcake_	Sorry, where abouts is the X conf hiding?	05:55
socceroos_	cupcake_: its not used	05:55
DaSkreech	cupcake_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf	05:59
cupcake_	DaSkreech: I doubt it. thats pretty much empty...	06:00
DaSkreech	cupcake_: That's the file. Xorg is downplaying it	06:00
cupcake_	well, I'm interested in what mouse options are used. anyone aware of that location?	06:01
dash84	sup	06:02
dash84	2 da east side	06:02
DaSkreech	cupcake_: Same file	06:04
dash84	gay	06:08
Wargasm	just finished installing kde 4.2	06:11
Wargasm	so far it looks fantastic	06:11
Wargasm	visually it's a lot better than 4.1	06:11
gothpaw	DaSkreech: still can't find anything relevant in the dmesg, but I did find this at the end of kern.log --> http://rafb.net/p/fxt9MM94.html	06:12
ScottK-laptop	ping ScottK	06:13
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DaSkreech	gothpaw: sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdd1	06:20
gothpaw	DaSkreech: ok... gave me 2 lines of txt	06:21
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PSiL0	!fglrx	06:21
ubottu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	06:21
PSiL0	!snack	06:21
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about snack	06:21
gothpaw	DaSkreech: line1 = dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN line2 = Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 234.	06:22
DaSkreech	gothpaw: can paste those here I think	06:22
DaSkreech	2lines shoudln't be bad	06:22
DaSkreech	Hmm	06:26
gnuman_	hei guy, I'm unable to install google toolbar in firefox	06:27
DaSkreech	gothpaw: What did you use to get those lines ?	06:32
DaSkreech	the same command I gave ?	06:32
gothpaw	DaSkreech: yes exactly as you posted to me	06:33
wildbat	question: how do i set the power button to show a shutdown menu instead of shutting down ?	06:34
gothpaw	DaSkreech: http://rafb.net/p/PjqtqJ21.html	06:35
DaSkreech	gothpaw: and it won't automount or be forced to mount?	06:35
gothpaw	DaSkreech: nothing I have thrown at it will mount it	06:36
gothpaw	forgive the terminology :)	06:36
sorset	hi, i cant change the clock of system... "Unable to contact time server: north-america.pool.ntp.org." why?	06:37
gothpaw	sorset: have you tried a different ntp server?	06:37
sorset	gothpaw: yes	06:38
sorset	i have same error change when i unckeck "Ser date and time automaticly" !!	06:39
travis_	Hello.	06:40
travis_	I am new to KDE and having some trouble.	06:40
gothpaw	sorset: not sure what to say there. The reason I asked that was I had the same issue once, but changing the ntp server fixed it for me	06:40
travis_	When I change my resolution all of the fonts have become huge.	06:40
gothpaw	travis_: if it is a KDE issue I would first try asking in #KDE	06:41
travis_	ok, thank you gothpaw.	06:41
gothpaw	:)	06:42
sorset	gothpaw: i'm not using automatic set,	06:42
sorset	but it says "Unable to contact time server: ."!!	06:43
sorset	and dont specify any server!	06:43
navetz	hey guys	06:44
navetz	i have a weird issue	06:44
navetz	where my background wallpaper wont change	06:44
navetz	it says I am using a different wallpaper	06:44
navetz	but its still the old one	06:44
navetz	any ideas on how to fix it?	06:45
gothpaw	navetz: well the wallpaper I would imagine would be related to the desktop your using (if KDE try in #KDE if gnome try in #Gnome ... etc)	06:46
navetz	k thanks	06:47
gothpaw	sorset: have you tried setting the time/date with the "date" function in a console?	06:47
sorset	gothpaw: no , now, w8	06:48
sorset	gothpaw: !! Mon Feb 23 10:18:43 IRST 2009	06:49
jessie	!!	06:49
gothpaw	sorset: man date	06:49
sorset	gothpaw: what you mean?	06:50
sorset	gothpaw: can i change date?	06:51
gothpaw	sorset: open your console and type in 'man date' ... without the '' of course... this will tell you how you can manually change the time/date using the date function	06:51
wildbat	question: how do i set the power button to show a shutdown menu instead of shutting down ?	06:52
sorset	gothpaw: ok, i'll try	06:52
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MasterMMX	HI ALL ROOM	06:53
gothpaw	wildbat: more details please.... which desktop, which power button, etc...	06:59
wildbat	KDE 4.1 , power button of pc or laptop >.>	07:00
wildbat	i see ~ i will take a look on that	07:07
gothpaw	wildbat: you could also try using kpowersave (apparently it has a feature for changing the button configurations)	07:07
gothpaw	wildbat: don't quote me on that though, just going from memory	07:07
gothpaw	:)	07:07
wildbat	kk	07:07
wildbat	and how do i fix the lidbutton for my laptop ? it won't work before i do suspend to RAM once.....	07:08
zeltak	hi, is just in my computer that the pager boxses are alwaus empty (no desktop number/name) or is this a known bug?	07:09
mikorn2	Anyone have experience installing a Brother printer on 8.10?	07:10
gothpaw	wildbat: that I am unsure of, sorry	07:10
gothpaw	zeltak: have you setup your pager to show the name/number?	07:11
zeltak	yup	07:11
gothpaw	odd	07:11
zeltak	but no matter what i choose the tiny boxes are empty	07:11
zeltak	yeah strange..o h well at least i know its not aknown bug thx :)	07:12
zeltak	will wait for kubuntu juanty to see if its fixed...come to think of it it happens on my laptop to...so i guess its some kinda bug	07:12
gothpaw	well, I'm gone for the night....	07:13
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Wargasm	anybody know if x-fi cards truly work in ubuntu yet?	07:33
StR\|Sangreal	hello... my boot is slowed down due to an non-critical error and i have no clue what is wrong... could pls someone attend this?	07:34
Wargasm	StR\|Sangreal: when does the error come up?	07:34
StR\|Sangreal	well i use kubuntu, cca at the 30% of the bootscreen it switches into tty prompt and stays there until launching of kdm	07:35
StR\|Sangreal	and the error is right after some kernel check or so if i properly understand. yet the fact why does the bootscreen not continue is odd, but i think there is some failure that could be fixed	07:36
Wargasm	hmm, ive never come across that. did you install something on the third party/unsupported repos?	07:37
StR\|Sangreal	yes i did	07:38
Wargasm	i haven't had very good luck when doing that...probably depends on what it is though	07:38
Slartibartfast	StR\|Sangreal: maybe "/var/log/messages" gives some more info .....	07:38
StR\|Sangreal	but i think that this error ocurred after a system crash not an installation of restricted sw	07:39
Slartibartfast	"some kernel check or so" is not really helpful in determine what might be wrong	07:40
Wargasm	see what the log says, might give you enough info to see what caused it	07:40
kingtiger_	anyone know anything about syncing the a windows mobile pda?	07:40
kingtiger_	or a "not fully set in Hal" error	07:43
Slartibartfast	StR\|Sangreal: maybe remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line in your /boot/grub/menu.lst will give you also more info during the boot process what might go wrong	07:43
StR\|Sangreal	Slartibartfast ok i will pastebin the log... i said i dont know how to treat such problems, i use linux just for usual work	07:46
Slartibartfast	StR\|Sangreal: ok ... not sure if i can be of help, but will take a look	07:47
QWonder	hi, i just installed 8.10 and i'm having some video problems. i have an agp nvidia 5200 card and at first i did not have resolutions above 800x600 available so i installed the restricted drivers, now i only have 640x480 and 320x240 as available	07:47
QWonder	i was using ubuntu, installed 8.04 and updated to 8.10 and didn't have problems with either of those	07:50
SuperMoot	is it possible to use wget for --load-cookies file along with --http-user=user --http-password=pass , and have it login to two places (one with the cookie) and the other site with the user:pass ?	07:54
SuperMoot	oops	07:55
StR\|Sangreal	Slartibartfast : http://paste2.org/p/152423	07:55
arshad	HI	08:12
arshad	what is DSL Damn Small LInux	08:12
arshad	??	08:12
Slartibartfast	!dsl	08:13
ubottu	Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE	08:13
Slartibartfast	hehehe	08:13
Slartibartfast	not that	08:13
Slartibartfast	DSL is a damn small linux as far as i know ... :-) ..... a distribution to fit on a business card sized cd	08:14
arshad	what r d advantages	08:14
Slartibartfast	under the 50MB	08:15
Slartibartfast	it's memory usage is also small	08:15
Slartibartfast	But more comprehensive info about DSL you'll find on http://damnsmalllinux.org/	08:16
arshad	tks	08:18
kingtiger_	so anyone know anything about syncing kubuntu and windows mobile	08:18
kingtiger_	I'm getting a "not fully set in Hal" massage	08:19
Slartibartfast	personally i like thai massage more :-P	08:20
kingtiger_	ya me to much more relaxing then trying to find a salution to a computer problem that seems to be shared by me and um me	08:22
arshad	DSL on usb pendrive n dsl on cd are two different options . . . . . . . . ???	08:22
dash84	:/	08:22
Slartibartfast	i don't have a win-mob phone ... but maybe this thread helps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-954103.html	08:22
kingtiger_	thanks	08:23
arshad	Help plzz. . . . . . . . . . is DSL avaliable for download	08:24
Slartibartfast	ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-3.x/	08:24
arshad	tks	08:28
noaXess	in which package is the mail command included?	08:30
Slartibartfast	mailutils ?	08:31
noaXess	Slartibartfast: aha.. :) thanks.. simple :)	08:31
Slartibartfast	np	08:32
thedark	hello everyone	08:39
thedark	I get the following error whenever I try to start mnemosyne:	08:40
thedark	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121718/	08:40
tedy	good morning ladyes	08:42
thedark	I have uninstalled and reinstalled it	08:42
thedark	I still get the same error	08:42
QWonder	hi, i'm having a problem where my resolution is very limited in 8.10 with an nvidia card and the restircted drivers, can someone please help me?	08:43
cairo	hey all	08:43
tedy	hello	08:43
tedy	cairo	08:43
cairo	download your hardware drivers	08:43
tedy	what for drivers	08:44
cairo	I was talking to Qwonder	08:44
QWonder	no	08:44
cairo	You need to go under system	08:45
kingtiger_	thanks for the link Slartibartfast. had i bunch of info including some people that had the same problem but noone ever gave any idea how to fix it	08:45
cairo	then administration	08:45
cairo	then hardware drives	08:45
QWonder	i have found various forums postings where people have the same problem in 8.04 and 8.04 ubuntu, i had the newest restricted drivers installed, i tried an older version but they do the same thing	08:45
cairo	have you restarted your computer	08:45
QWonder	cairo: that sounds like it's for ubuntu, i don't have a hardware drivers section there?	08:46
QWonder	either way, i already have the restricted drivers installed	08:46
cairo	well i had to rstart my computer after I installed the drivers	08:47
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cairo	what version of linux do you have	08:47
Slartibartfast	kingtiger_ ... welcome ... i did see there was also a special channel for the software they spoke of	08:47
QWonder	well, so did i	08:48
QWonder	thanks for being so eager to help	08:48
cairo	lol sorry i was probably more of a pest then a help then	08:48
SmokeyD	hey people I just get a bunch of kde updates in Kubuntu, but they cause digikam to be removed due to update of libexiv2. Digikam seems to depend on the old version, which is removed with the update. Does this mean digikam is not part of Kubuntu anymore?	08:49
doktoreas	hello everybody..after today update all my plasmoid are gone	08:49
doktoreas	it says that can't find "frame"	08:49
cairo	no clue	08:49
Wargasm	SmokeyD, doktoreas, i had something similar happen	08:50
Wargasm	i had to change the session to console, and then had to do a "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade"	08:51
Wargasm	after i upgraded everything worked fine, before that, nothing showed up when i logged in	08:51
Wargasm	try doing an update through console	08:51
thedark	I cannot get mnemosyne to start	08:51
doktoreas	Wargasm: ok!	08:51
thedark	nobody here uses this program?	08:51
sujr	hi! is ubuntu using /dev/dsp for audio input and output or output has i different device name?*	08:52
cairo	anyone know how to find other channels other than looking through a web list	08:52
thedark	god in heaven why are my problems always so unsolvable... everybody else gets a suggestion so quickly, but I always have to wait hours until one guy has some vague idea that usually doesn't pan out	08:54
Wargasm	cairo: yeah are you using konversation?	08:55
Rioting_pacifist	nothing will run this morning, last thing i did was install some tools and run prelink, (but ive run prelink -ua since) yet just about everything is segfaulting on me	08:55
cllaudyu	thedark you arent the only one	08:55
* thedark hadokens Kubuntu		08:55
Rioting_pacifist	thedark: whats your problem?	08:55
thedark	I can't get this program called mnemosyne to start	08:56
thedark	I uninstalled and reinstalled	08:56
thedark	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121718/	08:56
thedark	there is the error I get	08:56
cllaudyu	what is it for? thedark	08:56
Wargasm	cairo: go to window, click on channel list near the bottom.	08:56
thedark	it is an SRS, a spaced-repetition-system	08:56
cllaudyu	thedark and you get only errors?	08:57
thedark	you make flash cards, and it schedules how frequently to repeat their appearance based on how well you remembered the answers	08:57
thedark	right, it doesn't even start	08:57
thedark	it was working recently	08:57
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cairo	hmm on Konversation Application or different IRC	08:57
Wargasm	on Konverstaion	08:58
Wargasm	xchat also has a channel list feature	08:58
ActionParsnip	!channels	08:58
cllaudyu	thedark, i can say that i have a similar problem... after using programs they stoped responding...	08:58
ubottu	A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines	08:58
QWonder	how do i change from my monitor being pnp to generic?	08:59
thedark	I am using it to well that is something	08:59
thedark	lol forgot I had started a sentence	08:59
ActionParsnip	QWonder: isnt pnp generic?	08:59
QWonder	what? pnp isn't picking up my monitor, and i believe that may be why i'm so limited on resolutions, how do i manually set my monitor model?	09:00
ibuffy	what's a pts for?	09:02
ibuffy	does kubuntu have a ipvs enabled by default?	09:22
ben_glaz1	I cant get past the login screen in intrepid/kde4.2 this morning. I think I did a package upgrade the last time i used it. I have tried apt-get update, etc, and I have tried mv ~/.kde to ~/.kdebak, can anybody help me please?	09:24
Rioting_pacifist	all my programs keep segfaulting, i think it may be due to file corruption (my laptop is pretty screwed) how can i check which files i need to reinstall	09:26
ActionParsnip	QWonder: have you installed video drivers?	09:27
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: can you log in as another user?	09:27
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: I am the only user setup up on the machine	09:28
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: then drop to root recovery console and make a new one	09:29
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: its just to test	09:29
ActionParsnip	!adduser	09:29
ubottu	To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo	09:29
ActionParsnip	Rioting_pacifist: i'd read dmesg \| tail when it next happens, you can also check your hdd and memory to make sure they are ok	09:29
thedark	okay I fixed mnemosyne	09:32
Rioting_pacifist	ActionParsnip: dmesg just shows the segfaults, the HDD is ok (for now, the slightest movement can make it unreachable, but if the laptop is stable the HDD will stay readable)	09:32
thedark	but I have another lingering problem....	09:32
thedark	ever since I upgraded from Kubuntu 8.04, all videos in all programs have a slight hiccup every ten seconds or so	09:33
thedark	any idea how to fix this?	09:33
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ActionParsnip	Rioting_pacifist: is your ram healthy?	09:36
ActionParsnip	thedark: have you installed codecs?	09:36
Rioting_pacifist	ActionParsnip: only way to check that is running memtest from grub right?	09:36
thedark	no	09:37
cllaudyu	can someone tell me why is plasma crashing so often? i disabled almost every graphics but it's stil crashing	09:37
thedark	how do I know which to install/use?	09:37
thedark	I mean it is for every video	09:37
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thedark	even flash videos in websites	09:37
ActionParsnip	Rioting_pacifist: yeah its part of grub	09:38
cllaudyu	how can i disable moause effects?	09:38
thedark	and I know it isn't power issue, I never had this problem in previous versions of kubuntu	09:38
ActionParsnip	!codecs	09:38
ubottu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	09:38
cllaudyu	to put graphics to zero	09:38
ActionParsnip	cllaudyu: systemsettings	09:39
ActionParsnip	cllaudyu: mouse is my guess, or desktop effects maybe	09:39
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: ok, i created new user, and got a different result, this time instead of returning to login straight away, this time i get kwin (x-window-manager) crashed.	09:39
cllaudyu	i can't find desktop effects	09:39
cllaudyu	i mean mouse effects	09:40
cllaudyu	only for mouse pointer	09:40
cllaudyu	i did not found anything	09:40
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: it may not be named "mouse effects" exactly	09:41
ActionParsnip	cllaudyu: see above	09:41
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: sorry dude wrong target	09:41
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: second time, it is just as before, straight back to login	09:41
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: ok drop to root console: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kwin	09:41
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: ok, i try that	09:42
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ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: sorry, reinstall kwin did not work	09:47
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: did it actually reinstall though?	09:48
ben_glaz1	yes	09:48
RiotingPacifist	ActionParsnip: memtester (testing all my freemem isnt showing any problems with ram) i will reboot and use the utility from grub but i think my memory is fine.	09:49
RiotingPacifist	*reboot later	09:49
ActionParsnip	RiotingPacifist: only one way to know for sure	09:49
eddie_	hi..all.. i have a problem here.. i have connected my lap to internet through gprs connection and the connection is working fine .. but the page is not loading in konquerer	09:58
eddie_	can abybody help me	09:58
ActionParsnip	eddie_: is konqueror et to offline mode?	09:58
ActionParsnip	*set	09:58
ActionParsnip	eddie_: can you ping sites by name, can you ping this ip: 30.99.130.180	09:59
eddie_	yes the page is loading through w3m browser	10:00
thedark	okay I have all the codecs it says to install already	10:01
thedark	just to recap, all videos hiccup every 10 seconds or so	10:01
thedark	it is very slight, but annoying	10:01
thedark	every video from flash videos to avi in mplayer	10:01
eddie_	how to change the mode of konquerer	10:01
thedark	I have all the codecs installed	10:01
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: kwin (4:4.2.0-0ubuntu~1intrepid1~ppa7) was replaced from the package kwin_4%3a.4.2.0-0ubuntu~1intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb	10:01
ibrar	d	10:02
ActionParsnip	eddie_: http://fixunix.com/suse/260500-konqueror-offline-mode.html	10:02
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: ok, if you install a different DE, like fluxbox is it ok	10:03
Azazel_Pazuzu	guten tag	10:04
Azazel_Pazuzu	sprechen Sie deutsch?	10:04
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: euh. now i am getting "could not resolve gb.archive.ubuntu.com" on apt-get install fluxbox. Should I manually edit the sources.list?	10:06
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ben_glaz1	that was gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid universe	10:07
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: should be fine, I use the same and use fluxbox	10:07
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ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: if you are at the log in screen you can change to a command line login then run startx from there	10:08
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: x starts but goes no further showing an x, thats it	10:09
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: then its loading	10:10
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: have you checked your drive for errors and checked your ram for errors?	10:10
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: can I do that from the command line	10:11
ben_glaz1	how?#	10:11
lokai	can I get libx11-devel through apt?	10:13
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: bring up logon window, bottom right buttons one will say command line login, login there then type: startx	10:13
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: if it crashes you will get info onscreen	10:14
ben_glaz1	I get nothing, except an x cursor	10:14
ben_glaz1	and mesh background	10:14
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: ok try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	10:16
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: then restart x	10:16
Rioting_pacifist	I ran the 1st 4 memtests and they all came back ok, but it would take hours to do all of them on the entire range, and i need to use my laptop today	10:17
lokai	ah, its just called libx11-dev ;)	10:18
matt	Can someone answer a quick question? Using KDE 4, read that slideshow wallpapers were possible in KDE but can't find how to do that. Any help?	10:21
Rioting_pacifist	my hdds gone again need to reboot brb	10:22
shryke2a	hello, is thunderbird able to open a linuxmail mailbox?	10:22
dim3dro1	hi all	10:24
dim3dro1	I'm running kubuntu 8.10	10:24
dim3dro1	"/etc/rc2.d/S20kde-guidance: 31: /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-hwprobe.py: not found"	10:25
dim3dro1	what does this message mean?	10:25
dim3dro1	it appears on startup	10:25
matt	config-hwprobe.py file is missing, patch is available at http://patch-tracking.debian.net/patch/series/view/kde-guidance/0.7.0-1/12_force_python2.4_script.diff	10:27
matt	any help on the slideshow wallpapers>	10:31
matt	?	10:31
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matt	anyone?	10:39
shyke2a	one	10:42
franic	hi all	10:45
RiotingPacifist	im getting "0x0000003000009a1a in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" from gdb, hwo do i reinstall ld-linux-x86-64.so	10:45
RiotingPacifist	ubottu: ld-linux-x86-64.so.2	10:46
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	10:46
matt	Can someone please tell me how to do slideshow wallpapers? I can't find the plugin that forums keep saying I need, can't find the settings to enable it. Can someone please tell me where this is?	10:47
RiotingPacifist	matt kde4 or kde3?	10:48
RiotingPacifist	in both i think its just an option for bkground apearance though	10:49
matt	kde4	10:49
matt	cant find the option for it	10:49
matt	installed ubuntu with gnome then installed kde and switched to kde, but still looks the same with different apps installed. is that normal or did i fuck something up?	10:50
RiotingPacifist	i dont have kde4 atm but last time i was in 4.2 it was under apearance when you right click on the peanut in top right	10:50
sorteal	matt : Do you mean it still looks like gnome	10:51
matt	yes, thats what i mean. sorry if i wasnt clear, been up for awhile	10:51
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sorteal	did you install the kubuntu-desktop package?	10:51
sorteal	or just straight kde	10:51
sorteal	Another question (may sound like a stupid one) did you switch your session at login to kde?	10:52
matt	sudo apt-get install kde-nightly, whichever that installs. still really new at this, sorry for the lack of info. when i installed that package i checked the box that made kde default at startup then rebooted	10:53
Riddell	you still need to select kde at the login screen (from the session menu)	10:54
matt	really, bc the kde login screen came up and it booted into kubuntu instead of ubuntu. did i really just miss an option box at login?	10:55
sorteal	I'd install the kubuntu-desktop package and then make sure you have kde selected at login	10:55
matt	how do i install desktop package?	10:56
sorteal	sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop	10:56
matt	thanks for the help sorteal	10:57
sorteal	np	10:57
sorteal	wait what ubuntu version	10:57
sorteal	8.10?	10:57
matt	yes, 8.10	10:57
sorteal	k	10:57
dim3dro1	matt: how can I apply this patch?	11:09
dim3dro1	should I download sources and unpack?	11:10
dim3dro1	can anyone help me, how can I apply this patch: http://patch-tracking.debian.net/patch/series/view/kde-guidance/0.7.0-1/12_force_python2.4_script.diff ?	11:11
PhilippeP	is there a way to redirect the text output of the 'kcmshell4 display' to a file ?? the > does not work :(	11:12
earle	Hey peeps. My Weather Forecast plasmoid's been broken since 4.2. Is there a known fix?	11:13
kalum__	Hello, I am running kubuntu latest version with kde 4.1.4. I am very satisfied with it overall, except one problem, when i try to play divx movies with mplayer or any movie player for that matter, the movie misses a few FPS every 10 seconds or so, ie there is a sudden pause in playback. could anyone tell me why this is the case?	11:19
PhilippeP	kalum__: it could be a lot of things	11:23
kalum__	hmm..no response to my question about skiiping full screen movie playback under kubuntu :-(	11:23
kalum__	Aha.....i spoke too soon :-)	11:23
PhilippeP	kalum__: does it only happens full screen ??	11:24
kalum__	PhilippeP: Well my computer is upto the task speed wise, 1gb of ram, and 1.8 ghz dual core CPU which should be suffiecient, the chipset is a intel 945GM/GMS	11:24
kalum__	It only happens in full screen, windowed it runs perfectly	11:25
sorteal	Are you running any kind of desktop effects	11:25
kalum__	Just the default desktop effects that the native install of kubuntu would have, nothing else enabled, just a vanilla kubuntu install	11:26
kalum__	Kubuntu has enabled the 3d accelerated effects if that it what you meant...	11:26
wers	fonts on my gtk apps on kde 4.2 dont render like my kde apps and how they do on gnome. how do i fix this?	11:27
ActionParsnip	yo yo yo	11:27
sorteal	Try turning that off I've noticed mplayer and vlc tend to get "choppy" even on fast machines when in fullscreen with effects running	11:27
StR\|Sangreal	hi i need to install following package to my kubuntu intrepid with kernel .27 and kde42 but i cannot handle source codes... pls some advice?	11:28
StR\|Sangreal	http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=89304&forumpage=1&PHPSESSID=cae	11:28
sorteal	I think it's more a compiz-fusion issue than mplayer, vlc, or kde issue	11:28
PhilippeP	kalum__: you can try desactivating compositing before viewing : Alt+Shift+F12	11:28
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: theres a deb for it: http://danakil.free.fr/linux/packages/panelspacer-plasmoid-intrepid-0.1_i386.deb	11:29
ActionParsnip	sorteal: thats common	11:29
StR\|Sangreal	ActionParsnip > i use amd63	11:29
sorteal	what's common	11:29
ActionParsnip	sorteal: compiz borking stuff	11:29
kalum__	ok......thx, I will try that......	11:29
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: i see	11:29
sorteal	yeah I've kinda noticed that lol :)	11:29
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: sudo apt-get install build-essential	11:30
PhilippeP	kalum__: same keystroke to reactivate after ! :)	11:30
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: and you can compile the source	11:30
kalum__	PhilippeP: Thanks very much, If i may not trouble you once more, is there anyway to autohide the panel in 4.1.4 or should i update to 4.2 using the PPC debs	11:31
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: if you'd read down a bit you would have seen tis: http://smihael.bplaced.net/plasmoids/binary/panel-spacer_0.1-1_amd64.deb	11:31
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: ;)	11:31
StR\|Sangreal	pls offtopic: my kde launcher is messing up, it doesnt display all suitable results, icons are overlaping and e.g. i sometimes canot run opera via altF2	11:31
StR\|Sangreal	0.1 is buggy, its not compatible with kde42	11:32
PhilippeP	kalum__: no for 4.1.4 , for 4.2 activate intrepid_backports 4.2 is in it now !	11:32
StR\|Sangreal	have tried	11:32
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: good	11:32
kalum__	Thanks very much	11:32
PhilippeP	you're welcome	11:33
StR\|Sangreal	can sb advise me for this? :pls offtopic: my kde launcher is messing up, it doesnt display all suitable results, icons are overlaping and e.g. i sometimes canot run opera via altF2	11:33
StR\|Sangreal	* : Pls	11:33
ActionParsnip	StR\|Sangreal: try finding where the config file for the launcher is an rename it	11:35
StR\|Sangreal	ok i get the idea but i have no clue where it usually is	11:35
StR\|Sangreal	build-essential is in latest version; build-essential is set to manual installation... what now?	11:36
boubbin	!kde4	11:37
ubottu	kde4 is KDE 4.1.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3 \| 4.2 packages http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 \| Support in #kubuntu	11:37
boubbin	i cant have 4.2 in hardy ?	11:37
ActionParsnip	boubbin: sure	11:38
boubbin	any walkthrough of installation, i would like to install it beside oh kde3	11:39
boubbin	i couldnt find any relevant guides with google...	11:39
ActionParsnip	boubbin: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/tag/ubuntu-hardy-install-kde-42/	11:40
boubbin	nice, thanks.	11:41
ActionParsnip	np	11:47
boubbin	well i cant find the package kde-nightly	11:48
boubbin	but i can just select the "kde4" and it will also install all the dep's ?	11:48
boubbin	179 deps, 199mb	11:49
ActionParsnip	yes the package managers will install any required deps	12:04
vmt1	Hello all :) I tring iptables and I want to forward only google.de. with -d google.de it isnt working. Which parameter I have to use? Or is not possible with DNS- names? Can someone help?	12:06
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ActionParsnip	!iptables	12:07
ubottu	Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).	12:07
felix46	hii	12:07
DarkED	question. if i've added the kde4.2 repo, updated apt list, and did an update using adept, i should have kde4.2 on next login?	12:07
felix46	how can i go to irc of ubuntu in spanish?	12:08
bazhang	!es	12:08
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	12:08
felix46	!es	12:08
felix46	join	12:08
felix46	thx	12:08
DarkED	felix46: type /join #ubuntu-es :D	12:09
felix46	i went to ubuntu-es, thanx ^^	12:09
felix46	is posible change the language of Konversation?	12:10
felix46	is posible change the language of Konversation?	12:12
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white_hatr	hello	12:17
felix46	hi	12:17
thais	hi	12:17
sujr	hi! do twinkle sip can call from pc-to-pc?	12:18
thais	from were you are?	12:18
felix46	yes	12:18
felix46	you can use openwengo	12:19
felix46	is a sustitute of skype	12:19
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: I managed to get fluxbox installed ->> Couldnt connect to Xserver. I did a apt-get remove nvidia-glx-177 to see if i could start xserver with foss drivers. But, now im stuck for ideas again.	12:19
thedark	all videos skip slightly about every 10 seconds... youtube, avis, mpegs, I have all the media codecs installed... any ideas?	12:19
thedark	I have Kubuntu 8.10	12:19
felix46	this use the system of VoIP	12:19
thedark	Intrepid	12:19
thedark	never had this problem with previous versions	12:19
white_hatr	anyone know when Ubuntu 9.10 will be officially released?	12:20
ben_glaz1	I managed to get fluxbox installed (for testing)->> Couldnt connect to Xserver. I did a apt-get remove nvidia-glx-177 to see if i could start xserver with foss drivers. But, now im stuck for ideas again.	12:20
downandout	hello all	12:21
downandout	is there any software applet for ubuntu that displays a word a day in the taskbar or something along those lines?	12:21
downandout	like a vocabulary trainer ?	12:22
thedark	so no ideas about what could cause videos to skip?	12:23
downandout	many things depend on video	12:23
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thedark	the strange thing to me is that it is _all_ video... youtube, daily motion, avis on my hd, everything... and it is very slight, but relatively frequent	12:24
thedark	high res, low res, everything	12:24
thedark	in VLC, Mplayer, Dragon player... everything	12:24
white_hatr	does the audio also skip?	12:24
thedark	and I didn't have this problem in previous versions	12:24
thedark	nope	12:25
thedark	audio is fine	12:25
white_hatr	hmmmmmmmmm	12:25
AndrewMohawk	hi, i have an ATI card, lspci says "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]", i just got a 24" widescreen, but when setting the resolution to "1920x1200" the image is very distorted	12:25
AndrewMohawk	under hardware in kubuntu the gfx driver is "fglrx" and monitor is "LCD Panel 1920x1200 (widescreen"	12:25
white_hatr	i had a similar problem about skipping video but the aduio too was skipping	12:25
AndrewMohawk	anyone have any idea how i can fix this?	12:25
downandout	thedark: are you sure you have your drivers for your video card properly installed?	12:26
thedark	no	12:26
thedark	how do I check?	12:26
white_hatr	Ati or nvidia	12:27
white_hatr	or intel	12:27
thedark	you there downandout?	12:32
Silver22	afk	12:32
downandout	thedark: what type of video card?	12:32
thedark	hmm what is the CLI command to get my hardware profile?	12:33
thedark	found it	12:34
downandout	lspci	12:34
thedark	00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)	12:35
downandout	ok are you using compwiz?	12:36
thedark	is that not what I am looking for>	12:36
thedark	ni	12:37
downandout	compiz :)	12:37
thedark	no	12:37
thedark	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121803/	12:38
thedark	I typed that in that is what I got	12:38
downandout	compiz doesn't like your card	12:39
yaa_	what's up	12:39
downandout	apparently its blacklisted	12:39
thedark	?	12:39
thedark	what?!	12:39
DarkED	in konversation how do i configure proxy settings? i just cannot find it	12:40
kar	hi. i want to return from suspend without unlocking with my password the session. What could i do?	12:40
thedark	so what does that mean?	12:41
ben_glaz1	Intrepid/kde4.2. I got serious problems logging into kde. Kde login screen comes up as normal, but nothing else happens except jumps straight back to login screen. I have tried to install fluxbox as a test, and it retruns couldnt connect to xserver	12:41
khalidmian	i seem to have issues with java under firefox in kubuntu any help/assistance the system shows that i do have sunjava as i did install kubuntu extras	12:41
ben_glaz1	I have added a new user. Run apt-get update, dpkg reconfigure xserver. Nothing seems to work.	12:42
DarkED	brb	12:42
thedark	damn its rush hour in this room	12:43
downandout	http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/Compiz_Fusion_965GM_Incompatibility	12:43
downandout	the dark read that link	12:43
thedark	okay I read it	12:44
Walzmyn	kar those settings are in system settings, i'm not sure where	12:44
kar	Yes, i checked there but nothing happens. i tryed everything in login manager	12:45
AndrewMohawk	i seemed to have got mine working by using the ATI driver rather	12:46
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ActionParsnip	yo yo yo	12:47
thedark	so I don't get it	12:51
thedark	will creating that file and adding that line of text fix my video problem?	12:51
thedark	do I have to install a distro with a different window manager?	12:52
thedark	I didn't have this problem in 7.10	12:52
ben_glaz1	ActionParsnip: Please, can you help me again? I am still having problems.	12:55
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: ask away, the room will answer	12:56
ActionParsnip	ben_glaz1: dont target me just because i'm here	12:56
ben_glaz1	i installed fluxbox as requested. on startfluxbox i get could connect to xserver	12:57
ben_glaz1	Earlier i removed the nvidia-glx-177 i thought that might be causing problems	12:57
ben_glaz1	looking at xorg.log, everything seems ok using the nv driver	12:57
* thedark ddts this new kubuntu that has been nothing but trouble from day 1		12:58
ben_glaz1	startx just gives me the same blank screen with an x cursor	12:58
thedark	ugh I had that exact same problem Ben	12:58
sujr	hi! i'm compiling twinkle and got this error: configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3where should i change this? i'm using ubuntu 8 hardy	12:58
thedark	I had to do a complete reinstall	12:58
thedark	nobody here was able to help me, though one dude tried	12:58
ben_glaz1	thedark: i was hoping not to hear that. euh	12:59
thedark	sorry, maybe somebody else will have a solution, but I hung out here for almost two days and it was the best I could do	12:59
ben_glaz1	i am on day 2. I have tried everything i can think of.	13:00
thedark	upgrading to 8.10 has been such a pain, so many problems that I didn't experience from 7.10 to 8.04	13:00
thedark	inlcuding THE SKIPPING VIDEOS ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh	13:00
ben_glaz1	thedark: everything was fine saturday night, started up on sunday, and no kde	13:01
thedark	ah well that is different	13:01
ben_glaz1	other than login screen	13:01
bazhang	turning off effects generally fixes skipping videos	13:01
thedark	my problem was right after upgrading	13:01
thedark	how do I turn off effects, even youtube videos skip	13:01
ben_glaz1	ahh, i did an update on saturday.	13:01
thedark	yeah same as me then	13:02
bazhang	what version of kde4	13:02
ben_glaz1	using the update manager, that why i removed the nvidia glx drivers. I thought they might be causing the problem	13:02
ben_glaz1	intrepid with 4.2	13:02
bazhang	the experimental one?	13:03
ben_glaz1	thedark: did you update on saturday too?	13:03
sujr	i'm compiling twinkle and got this error: checking value of $QTDIR... not setconfigure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3hi!where should i change this? i'm using ubuntu 8 hardy	13:03
ben_glaz1	bazhang: i am not sure. I guess it is. As per kubuntu website (ppa7?)	13:03
khalidmian	i seem to have issues with java under firefox in kubuntu any help/assistance the system shows that i do have sunjava as i did install kubuntu extras	13:03
bazhang	ben_glaz1, yep	13:03
thedark	no	13:04
thedark	this was weeks ago	13:04
ben_glaz1	thedark; right, ok	13:04
ActionParsnip	sujr: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2006/04/msg00033.html	13:05
thedark	so bazhang, any other ideas about the videos?	13:06
bazhang	thedark, flash? or others	13:06
thedark	everything!	13:06
bazhang	thedark, which apps if others	13:06
thedark	that is what is so weird	13:06
thedark	flash videos, avis on my hd, DVDs	13:06
rpfr	hi	13:06
thedark	everything does that slight hiccup every 10 seconds	13:06
rpfr	system found the webcam	13:07
bazhang	which apps to run them thedark	13:07
rpfr	but not working in skype	13:07
thedark	try installing skype-static	13:07
thedark	you have to add the medibuntu repositories	13:07
thedark	I had this problem just two days ago	13:07
thedark	make sure you have the right qt libs installed as well	13:08
thedark	google that stuff, some helpful threads should show up with the details	13:08
thedark	but if you have skype-static and/or the right qt libs installed, that should fix it	13:08
thedark	I have tried everything	13:09
thedark	vlc, dragonplayer,mplayer,xine	13:09
rpfr	I will try thanks	13:09
thedark	kaffeine	13:09
ben_glaz1	ok guys, looks like i need to wipe and reinstall. I got console access and network connection. What the best way to backup my home dir?	13:09
ActionParsnip	!players	13:10
ubottu	Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs	13:10
ActionParsnip	thedark: we have a factoid for that	13:10
thedark	I have the codecs installed	13:10
thedark	I went through that before with another guy	13:10
darkenergy	!codecs	13:10
ubottu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	13:10
thedark	I don't have any problem with audio	13:10
thedark	yes I bookmarked the common tasks page	13:11
thedark	and I have the codecs installed	13:11
ActionParsnip	so wassup?	13:11
thedark	they all show up as installed in synaptic	13:11
thedark	I don't know!	13:11
thedark	all videos hiccup	13:11
thedark	it is super slight	13:11
thedark	but it is getting annoying	13:12
shadeslayer	thedark: tried vlc yet??	13:12
thedark	I didn't have this problem	13:12
thedark	I am running VLC as we speak	13:12
bazhang	are the vids on another drive	13:12
ActionParsnip	thedark: have you installed video drivers for your graphics card?	13:12
thedark	like I said, I have tried almost every player	13:12
shadeslayer	and it hiccups?? yeah i had that problem	13:12
thedark	it could be a driver problem	13:12
thedark	skips, whatever	13:12
shadeslayer	nope,just restart	13:12
shadeslayer	works for mr	13:13
shadeslayer	*me	13:13
thedark	yes, videos on my hd, flash	13:13
thedark	everything	13:13
ActionParsnip	thedark: you could renice the player app	13:13
thedark	okay its been a problem from day 1 with Kubuntu 8.10	13:13
thedark	if restarting fixed it, I wouldn't have a problem	13:13
thedark	renice?	13:13
shadeslayer	how do i force a mount of a NTFS partition??	13:13
shadeslayer	:)	13:13
ActionParsnip	thedark: ok i'll fill you in	13:14
ActionParsnip	thedark: all processes have a nice value	13:14
shadeslayer	like i said it worked for me	13:14
ActionParsnip	the default is 0	13:14
JuJuBee	Can someone help me with a resolution problem? I have a laptop with 9600M and dual head setup. Each screen/display has its own desktop with its own launcher/K-menu (using kubuntu). My external monitor is the problem. I want to set the resolution to 1280x1024. Using xrandr on that screen shows maximum of 1024x768 resolition. I know this monitor does better than that, in fact it was set way higher than that by accident once. Here are m	13:14
JuJuBee	astebin.com/m5e50de95	13:14
shadeslayer	ActionParsnip: nice value ?? lol	13:14
ActionParsnip	lower makes the app get more cpu time, higher it gets less	13:14
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: read and learn	13:14
shadeslayer	:)	13:14
shadeslayer	okie	13:14
thedark	I see	13:15
ActionParsnip	thedark: the lowest nice value you can get is -20 which will put 100% of system into the one process and will cause a tonne of problems	13:15
thedark	okay I high prioritied it	13:15
ActionParsnip	thedark: the highest is 20 where its practically ignored by the cpu	13:15
thedark	I don't see a number scale	13:15
ActionParsnip	thedark: by giving a nice value of say -5, the cpu will give it little more power and hopefully will iron it out	13:15
thedark	I see a cpu scheduler and an i/o scheduler	13:16
ActionParsnip	thedark: its a command line command	13:16
shadeslayer	he did ctrl+esc	13:16
thedark	ah... there is renice option in the system monitor	13:16
shadeslayer	ActionParsnip: any idea how to force mount a drive	13:16
shadeslayer	:D	13:17
ActionParsnip	thedark: renice -n -5 <pidofvlcplayer>	13:17
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: what filesystem, what dev and what mountpoint	13:17
ActionParsnip	thedark: obv you'll have to work out the pid first	13:17
shadeslayer	NTFS,/dev/sda3,mount point i do not know	13:17
thedark	okay	13:18
thedark	how do I do that?	13:18
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: ok i'll make one up	13:18
ActionParsnip	thedark: pidof vlc	13:18
thedark	wow so simple, amazed :)	13:19
shadeslayer	thanks	13:19
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: sudo mkdir /media/sda3; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3	13:19
ActionParsnip	thedark: it is in linux	13:19
shadeslayer	both commands?	13:20
ActionParsnip	thedark: once you run that command i gave with renice it will give vlc more cpu time	13:20
darkenergy	should you be creating folders in /media?	13:20
thedark	it tells me that isn't the proper usage	13:20
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: its the command you need, copy it in one and paste to terminal	13:20
ActionParsnip	thedark: what is the pid?	13:20
thedark	renice priority [-p\|--pid] pid [... pid]	13:20
shadeslayer	the command was	13:21
shadeslayer	mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 -o force	13:21
shadeslayer	:P	13:21
thedark	but I still don't get what to type	13:21
ActionParsnip	thedark: renice -n 5 -p <pidyoufound>	13:21
ActionParsnip	oops	13:21
ActionParsnip	make that 5 a -5	13:21
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: sure, you dint say you wanted ntfs3g, you may need some extra options	13:22
ActionParsnip	mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 -o force,uid=1000	13:22
thedark	still gave me the usage list	13:22
shadeslayer	?	13:22
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: makes it user writable	13:22
thedark	and I don't see a difference in the cpu % in the system monitor	13:23
ActionParsnip	thedark: what command are you using exactly?	13:23
shadeslayer	do i run the command again??	13:23
shadeslayer	ok	13:23
shadeslayer	i get it	13:23
ActionParsnip	thedark: it wont increase in there, its not labouring the system, but the process will be attended more often	13:24
ActionParsnip	thedark: can you give me the command you used please	13:24
shadeslayer	i need to unmount the device first	13:25
shadeslayer	whats the command for that	13:25
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: sudo umount /media/sda3	13:25
ActionParsnip	thedark: try: renice -5 -p <the pid>	13:25
shadeslayer	thanks	13:25
ActionParsnip	thedark: or try it with sudo	13:25
thedark	okay that last one worked	13:26
thedark	no sudo needed	13:26
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ActionParsnip	thedark: good enough	13:27
thedark	thank you	13:27
thedark	but it is still skipping	13:27
thedark	I changed it to -10	13:28
thedark	same problem	13:28
thedark	sound is fine	13:28
thedark	GOD this is so frustrating	13:29
thedark	but I do appreciate your help	13:29
darkenergy	thedark: have you got enough RAM?	13:29
ActionParsnip	thedark: if you run ps -ef \| grep vlc	13:29
ActionParsnip	thedark: is the 4th column your nice value, just curious	13:30
hacker	中文频道吗？	13:30
bazhang	!cn	13:30
ubottu	For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk	13:30
thedark	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121827/	13:30
ActionParsnip	thedark: try closing vlc	13:33
ActionParsnip	thedark: nice -7 vlc	13:33
ActionParsnip	sets its nice value at startup	13:34
* thedark nods		13:34
ActionParsnip	any better	13:35
thedark	nah it didn't work	13:35
* ActionParsnip used to renice nspluginwrapper to get better performance in flash before 64bit flash		13:35
thedark	I mean videos are watchable, it is just annoying	13:35
thedark	and sound is fine	13:35
thedark	but no change	13:35
ActionParsnip	then its the video codec, have you been into vlc's settings to play around	13:36
ActionParsnip	thedark: are you running compiz?	13:36
thedark	I don't see how that could be it, seeing how flash videos and videos in other players skip as well	13:36
thedark	uhm, I dunno	13:37
* shadeslayer wonders why his USB speed is 909 kBps		13:37
shadeslayer	:)	13:37
bazhang	turning off effects usually fixes that	13:37
shadeslayer	no effects	13:37
ActionParsnip	thedark: do you use that retarded desktop cube and all the bells and whistles that makes your computer look "pretty"	13:37
thedark	no	13:37
ActionParsnip	good	13:37
bazhang	referring to thedark 's issue	13:38
* ActionParsnip hates beryl almost as much as Apple		13:38
shadeslayer	:)	13:38
thedark	I actually toned down that crap because it was giving me tons of issues	13:38
bazhang	turn it off completely	13:38
thedark	crashing and such	13:38
shadeslayer	looks that the force mount reduced speed	13:38
thedark	I have Desktop effects set to No Effects	13:38
darkenergy	thedark: hardware specs?	13:38
bazhang	how much ram,etc	13:38
ActionParsnip	and cpu speed	13:39
thedark	how do I get a list of all that?	13:39
thedark	I mean I have my comp documentation	13:39
darkenergy	cat /proc/cpuinfo	13:40
ActionParsnip	thedark: dont you know your system spec, like cpu speed and ram	13:41
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darkenergy	"free" shows how much ram you've got and how much is used. and swap too	13:41
bazhang	is this a wubi install?	13:41
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ActionParsnip	oh i hope not	13:41
thedark	brb	13:41
bazhang	heh	13:42
darkenergy	someone is being evasive	13:42
ActionParsnip	or use: cat /proc/meminfo	13:42
ActionParsnip	bit more info	13:42
bazhang	still can't figure out how to add the little icons to my kde4 panel :)	13:43
darkenergy	ActionParsnip: he's gone	13:43
bazhang	ie firefox, terminal etc	13:43
ActionParsnip	bazhang: drag them from kmenu	13:44
ActionParsnip	bazhang: make sure they are unlocked first	13:44
darkenergy	anyone figured out ad-hoc networking yet?	13:45
bazhang	ActionParsnip, thanks!	13:45
ActionParsnip	bazhang: np man	13:45
thedark	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121846/	13:45
thedark	there is my cpu info	13:45
thedark	I got 2 gigs of ram	13:45
ActionParsnip	should be fine	13:45
ActionParsnip	thedark: you could apt-build vlc	13:46
thedark	???????????	13:46
thedark	but man, what about flash videos and all that	13:46
ActionParsnip	thedark: it wil compile the softwre using deb-src	13:46
* shadeslayer is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop :)		13:46
ActionParsnip	thedark: flash videos use a flash plugin for your browser	13:46
thedark	right, but they have the same problem	13:46
darkenergy	thedark: cat /proc/meminfo	13:46
thedark	how would apt-building vlc fix that	13:46
shadeslayer	btw gnome will use the same kernel,configs,etc as Kubuntu right??	13:47
thedark	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121849/	13:47
thedark	meminfo	13:47
bazhang	thedark, is this a wubi install?	13:47
thedark	I don't even know what a wubi install is	13:48
bazhang	thedark, or inside a vm?	13:48
thedark	nah no vm	13:48
bazhang	how many processes do you have running thedark	13:49
thedark	130	13:49
shadeslayer	thedark: did you try reinstalling VLC??	13:49
shadeslayer	:P	13:49
bazhang	thedark, any memory intensive ones?	13:50
thedark	top 3 are firefox, xorg, and python	13:50
thedark	58,36, 13 M	13:50
BluesKaj	Hiyas	13:51
thedark	I don't see why it would be a specs problem unless KDE 4.1 is really that big of a problem	13:51
thedark	as I didn;t have this issue in previous versions of kubuntu	13:51
thedark	and upgrading has made me miserable ever since	13:51
shadeslayer	how do i change nvidia's power management	13:51
bazhang	thedark, what video card, what drivers, and how installed	13:52
shadeslayer	like its set to max performance right now	13:52
thedark	I didn't install any video drivers	13:52
shadeslayer	i want to set it to powersave,the video card	13:52
thedark	just what came out of the box, plus the media extras stuff	13:52
thedark	to watch dvds and videos with codecs and all that	13:52
shadeslayer	any idea??	13:53
ActionParsnip	thedark: you will need video drivers installing and configuring to get a smooth display	13:53
ActionParsnip	thedark: lspci \| grep VGA	13:54
shadeslayer	!nvidia \| thedark	13:54
ubottu	thedark: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	13:54
shadeslayer	:D	13:54
shadeslayer	ubotu seems extremly slow today	13:54
ActionParsnip	!botsnack	13:54
ubottu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	13:54
bazhang	ubottu lag	13:54
ActionParsnip	he's ok	13:54
ubottu	You have lag, I don't have lag	13:54
shadeslayer	:)	13:54
shadeslayer	maybe	13:54
shadeslayer	im installing ubuntu so maybe	13:54
ActionParsnip	thedark: what does that output?	13:54
thedark	00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)	13:55
shadeslayer	stupid card is heating to much	13:55
shadeslayer	IGP yayy	13:55
shadeslayer	no card :)	13:56
ActionParsnip	thedark: there are some xorg.conf snippets here for your card, it uses the intel driver which comes with a default install https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/120834	13:57
JuJuBee	Any opinions on nVidia 9650M vs. 9800M ?	13:57
ActionParsnip	!ot \| JuJuBee	13:57
ubottu	JuJuBee: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	13:57
shadeslayer	JuJuBee: ##hardware	13:57
shadeslayer	;)	13:57
thedark	so I don't have to fiddle with the drivers, just the xorg.conf file?	13:59
maartenw	hi, I've a problem with bluetooth support	14:00
maartenw	I'm running kubuntu 8.10	14:00
shadeslayer	maartenw: go ahead	14:00
ActionParsnip	thedark: correct you already have the driver installed in a package	14:00
maartenw	with all recent updates	14:00
ActionParsnip	thedark: !info xserver-xorg-video-intel	14:00
JuJuBee	I was more concerned about which card is better supported with kubuntu than which card works better for graphics.	14:00
maartenw	and kdebluetooth	14:00
maartenw	0.3	14:00
shadeslayer	maartenw: even with KDE 4.2??	14:00
maartenw	yes	14:00
maartenw	I can send files	14:00
ActionParsnip	!hcl \| JuJuBee	14:00
ubottu	JuJuBee: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection	14:00
maartenw	I can make a NAP connection	14:01
maartenw	but I cannot receive files	14:01
maartenw	the other device is a wm 2003 ipaq	14:01
shadeslayer	did you try this??	14:01
maartenw	I had the same problem with the gnome utils	14:01
shadeslayer	did you try this??	14:01
shadeslayer	!bluetooth	14:01
ubottu	For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup	14:01
shadeslayer	oops	14:01
ActionParsnip	maartenw: i have that too, i think the gnome one is ok but you'll need to install the GTK	14:01
thedark	!info xserver-xorg-video-intel	14:02
ubottu	xserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.4.1-1ubuntu10.3 (intrepid), package size 411 kB, installed size 900 kB	14:02
shadeslayer	ive not even tried bluetooth since its been fixed lol	14:02
JuJuBee	ActionParsnip: no mention of 9650, that's why I asked here.	14:02
ActionParsnip	JuJuBee: let me websearch	14:02
JuJuBee	I will aks elsewhere.	14:02
thedark	well I am confused and exhausted	14:03
shadeslayer	sooooooo	14:03
thedark	I'm gonna hit the sack and get back on this tomorrow	14:03
thedark	maybe I just need to try Xubuntu, this new KDE stuff is just trouble :(	14:03
pinpower	wtf	14:03
ActionParsnip	JuJuBee: seems supported by the 180 driver but i'd probably go for the official nvidia driver	14:03
pinpower	whats going on	14:03
ActionParsnip	thedark: you just need video drivers configuring	14:04
JuJuBee	You mean the 9650?	14:04
ActionParsnip	JuJuBee: yeah seems that way	14:04
maartenw	shadeslay: I know the things mentioned on the webpage you mentioned	14:04
shadeslayer	:) then no idea	14:04
thedark	okay I bookmarked that page	14:04
thedark	tgabjs again AP	14:04
ActionParsnip	np man	14:04
thedark	thanks	14:04
thedark	best of luck in all of your computing	14:05
thedark	farewell #kubuntu	14:05
maartenw	might obexpushd be needed for receiving files?	14:05
maartenw	it is not a requirement for kdebluetooth4	14:05
JuJuBee	ActionParsnip: what did you search for? I can;t find anything specific.	14:05
maartenw	shadeslayer: might obexpushd be needed for receiving files?	14:06
ActionParsnip	JuJuBee: nvidia 9650 nvidia-glx	14:06
shadeslayer	maartenw: you certainly have to use that,i think'	14:07
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felix46	hello	14:11
shadeslayer	!hi \| felix46	14:12
ubottu	felix46: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	14:12
shadeslayer	XD	14:13
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=== niKu is now known as niKubuntu
JuJuBee	Thanks ActionParsnip. Seems the 180.22 drivers supports the 9800M GS as well which is a common GPU for laptops.	14:14
niKubuntu	hi	14:14
shadeslayer	JuJuBee: 180 :O	14:14
JuJuBee	?	14:15
shadeslayer	nothing beyond 177 here	14:15
JuJuBee	Why?	14:15
ActionParsnip	JuJuBee: then you got a winner	14:15
ActionParsnip	!info nvidia-glx-180	14:16
shadeslayer	JuJuBee: in restricted drivers i dont have 180	14:16
ubottu	nvidia-glx-180 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-180): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 180.11-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 9046 kB, installed size 26444 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)	14:16
ActionParsnip	its in intrepid too	14:16
shadeslayer	my ' 7 ' key seems to be stuck	14:16
felix46	how can i colour my nick on irc?	14:17
shadeslayer	haha something was stuck below ' 7 '	14:19
shadeslayer	felix46: please please use #defocus and #freenode for such queries	14:19
felix46	chanel defocus?	14:20
shadeslayer	!defocus	14:21
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about defocus	14:21
ActionParsnip	haha its a random chat room for idle natterings	14:21
shadeslayer	ubottu: damn you	14:22
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about damn you	14:22
shadeslayer	XD	14:22
felix46	i can't join to defocus	14:22
shadeslayer	felix46: you have to wait for a voice	14:23
ActionParsnip	felix46: try: /j #defocus	14:23
felix46	[15:22] <felix46> hi	14:23
felix46	[15:22] [404] #defocus Cannot send to channel	14:23
shadeslayer	yeah,you have to wait for the beautiful antiope to voice you	14:24
felix46	ahhh	14:24
felix46	okok thx	14:24
felix46	i understand	14:24
ActionParsnip	!password	14:25
ubottu	Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords	14:25
lorelei	hi lols i am a gnom user	14:31
lorelei	ha ha kedofils	14:31
shadeslayer	lorelei: welcome to the candy world	14:31
shadeslayer	;)	14:31
ActionParsnip	no candy here	14:31
shadeslayer	*eye candy	14:31
ActionParsnip	kde, but not kwin	14:31
shadeslayer	hehe	14:31
shadeslayer	:)	14:32
ActionParsnip	!hi \| lorelei	14:32
ubottu	lorelei: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	14:32
* shadeslayer thinks he lost one chance to !hi		14:33
khalidmian	how can i install webdwing font under open office in kubuntu	14:33
shadeslayer	:(	14:33
shadeslayer	khalidmian: System settings>install font maybe	14:33
shadeslayer	khalidmian: find it??	14:34
ActionParsnip	!font	14:34
ubottu	Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer	14:34
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=== Guest16947 is now known as bishopz
bishopz	Morning :D	14:38
akventure	how do i move a file from one directory to another in an ubuntu terminal?	14:41
akventure	http://imagebin.org/39099	14:42
arshad	Help PLzz. . . . . . . . . . . . mouse is not working in Damn Small LInux DSL bootable from CD on start	14:42
akventure	i want to move the .avi from its current directory to ~/Desktop	14:42
shadeslayer	mv old path new path	14:42
shadeslayer	!konsole \| akventure	14:43
ubottu	akventure: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	14:43
shadeslayer	all commands there	14:43
akventure	ty	14:43
akventure	will do some dilligence	14:43
shadeslayer	np	14:44
ActionParsnip	arshad: read dmesg \| less to see why	14:44
ActionParsnip	arshad: and this is ubuntu support, not DSL support	14:44
shadeslayer	anybody know a good imaging software	14:44
shadeslayer	k3b wont read my DVD	14:45
arshad	any self help sites for DSL. . . . . . .	14:45
ActionParsnip	shadeslayer: can you clarify "imaging"	14:46
* shadeslayer has shown the height of dumbness		14:46
shadeslayer	ActionParsnip: nm, i was opening " Copy CD" for a DVD	14:46
shadeslayer	XD	14:46
ActionParsnip	oops	14:46
ActionParsnip	ok so whats this of "imaging" or is it related to the above muckup?	14:47
shadeslayer	well i wanted to make a ISO	14:47
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ActionParsnip	dd if=/dev/scd0 of=~/image.iso	14:47
shadeslayer	so instead of a DVD i chose a CD in k3b	14:48
shadeslayer	and i was copying a DVD	14:48
shadeslayer	i like GUI's	14:48
shadeslayer	:O	14:49
ActionParsnip1	damn battery	14:49
shadeslayer	ActionParsnip: that you??	14:49
ActionParsnip1	yeah	14:49
shadeslayer	:)	14:49
ActionParsnip1	shadeslayer: battery dies	14:49
shadeslayer	hehe,6 cll??	14:50
shadeslayer	*cell	14:50
ActionParsnip1	dell d420, no idea	14:50
* shadeslayer has a 9cell battery,never dies		14:50
ActionParsnip1	its my work lappy, its ok	14:50
shadeslayer	ActionParsnip1: you didnt join my channel ##Dell,:(	14:50
* shadeslayer is sad		14:50
shadeslayer	ty	14:51
ActionParsnip1	anyhoo, yeah you can access /dev and output to a file to make an iso	14:51
ActionParsnip1	using dd	14:51
shadeslayer	im learning konsole step by step,no high tech stiff right now	14:52
ActionParsnip1	its hardly high tech	14:53
ActionParsnip1	wait til you meek awk, sed and grep	14:53
ActionParsnip1	that gets mesy	14:53
shadeslayer	hehe	14:53
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maco	a few days ago, plasma wouldn't start. ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc seems to hold the problem (moving mine out of the way fixed it). i'm trying to figure out what setting broke plasma (debugging), so i've been bzr'ing the file and copying over little bits of the config at a time to see to get a diff where it breaks. can anyone help me figure out which part of this diff is the cause?	15:00
linex	Testing	15:01
arshad	do we have a chatting room with preferences or likes	15:02
arshad	???	15:02
arshad	in IRC	15:02
jussi01	arshad: err, what do you mean?	15:03
arshad	i mean chats based on locations or preferences or people	15:03
arshad	to make friends	15:04
arshad	to network	15:04
jussi01	!channels	15:04
ubottu	A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines	15:04
maco	my current plasma-appletsrc is http://paste.ubuntu.com/121892/ and the diff that got it there is http://paste.ubuntu.com/121891/	15:04
maco	i moved the panel's screen edge (manually, couldnt figure it out in the config file) and changed the geometry of showdesktop to be on the other side of quicklaunch (by copying the geometry from my broken config). lots of geometries changed seemingly on their own though. should messed up geometries cause plasma not to start though?	15:09
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arshad	invite	15:15
setpass	hi	15:15
setpass	ops	15:15
setpass	how i can change my pass?	15:15
=== setpass is now known as felix46
LjL	/msg nickserv help set	15:16
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=== shadeslayer_cybo is now known as shadycyborg
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bdr__	ok	15:17
felix46	its shows info	15:18
felix46	but i don't understand how use this	15:18
bdr__	hi, i have problem with kubuntu	15:18
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sujr	hi! what are the command line sip on linux which can have 3 way conference?	15:20
arshad	how do i join this forum #ubuntu-in @ irc.freenode.net	15:20
arshad	??	15:21
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casimodo	#ubuntu-fr	15:21
vmt1	!nagios	15:22
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about nagios	15:22
bader-alfa	i make k run for usb but when start kde desktop i get weird pixle on scrren, and nothing happen	15:22
felix46	hi	15:23
bader-alfa	i make k run from usb but when kde desktop start i get weird pixel on screen, and nothing happen	15:23
slow-motion	hi	15:26
jussi01	Hi all. trying to make kmail system tray entry only display new messages from the inbox (ie. it currently shows unread ones elsewhere... like in trash). anyone know how to acheive this?	15:29
shadycyborg	any idea when KDE 4.3 will be out,an ETA perhaps??	15:30
shadycyborg	nm	15:32
linex	shadycyborg: I think at the earliest July with rc in June.	15:39
shadycyborg	linex: talking in #kde	15:39
shadycyborg	they told me everything	15:39
linex	oh	15:39
linex	shadycyborg: what did they tell you. I'm interested too .	15:39
shadycyborg	http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Feature_Plan	15:40
shadycyborg	feature plan	15:40
shadycyborg	http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule	15:40
shadycyborg	release plan	15:40
arshad	hi	15:41
shadycyborg	!hi	15:41
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	15:41
linex	thanks	15:41
shadycyborg	Telepathy-specification compliant Account Manager using KWallet to store account data	15:41
shadycyborg	:O	15:41
ubuntu_	hi everyone	15:43
ubuntu_	I'm trying to installa Kubuntu on my laptop....	15:44
shadycyborg	ubuntu_: and??	15:45
ubuntu_	I start it with kubuntu dvd in live mode and then install...	15:45
shadycyborg	yes	15:45
ubuntu_	but to have someproblem ...	15:45
shadycyborg	which is	15:45
shadycyborg	ubuntu_: get to the problem	15:45
ubuntu_	ok ,nowI'm trying again ...., it was just froozen ....	15:46
ubuntu_	well actually just the installation ....	15:46
shadycyborg	XD	15:46
ubuntu_	ok right now is Calculatingfiles to skip copying 15%	15:47
shadycyborg	ubuntu_: if youre sure youre gonna install then simply use the second option during boot	15:47
ubuntu_	and looks it's stopped there ....	15:47
ubuntu_	so is better to do wothout live ?	15:47
shadycyborg	yeah	15:47
shadycyborg	less of a hassle	15:48
ubuntu_	ok , and I'll get the same tools to do partiotion hopefully !?!	15:48
kaddi	hi, i'm trying to set a symbolic link, so that i can simply enter "l" instead of "ls -l"... but i can't seem to find the right command to do that... i don't see how to add the option to the link	15:48
shadycyborg	ubuntu_: everything will be same	15:49
shadycyborg	just no live session	15:49
shadycyborg	or IRC	15:49
ubuntu_	ok thanks, I'll try	15:49
shadycyborg	thats the only downside	15:49
shadycyborg	np	15:49
shadycyborg	ubuntu_: be sure to upgrade to 4.2	15:49
shadycyborg	afterwards	15:50
shadycyborg	XD	15:50
mefisto__	kaddi: you mean an alias?	15:50
kaddi	mefisto__ possibly.. what does this do? i tried to use ln, but that didn't work	15:50
mefisto__	kaddi: a link is like a file that points to another file or folder	15:51
rain	Doe anyone know why i have such problem?	15:52
rain	rain@rain:~$ su -	15:52
rain	Password:	15:52
rain	su: Authentication failure	15:52
rain	I type right password	15:52
kaddi	mefisto__ google says alias is the command i want to be using :D	15:52
maco	rain: you set a root password?	15:52
jussi01	rain: what are you attempting to do?	15:52
rain	and if I try it with other programs then it works correctly	15:53
maco	rain: the root account is locked by default. if you want a root shell, use "sudo -i"	15:53
jussi01	rain: sudo -i	15:53
rain	I am trying to execute *.sh installer	15:53
rain	sec i try	15:53
mefisto__	kaddi: if you want l = "ls -l" you would do this: alias l=ls -l	15:54
rain	it seems like it works but	15:55
mefisto__	kaddi: if you want it to be permanent (that is, you want that alias to work after a reboot) you can create .bash_aliases in your home dir and put all your aliases in that file	15:56
rain	root@rain:/home/rain/limewirepro# sh Crossover-Pro-7.0.2.sh	15:56
rain	Verifying archive integrity...OK	15:56
rain	Uncompressing CrossOver Linux Professional	15:56
rain	No protocol specified	15:56
rain	Setup requires an X display to run. There is a display variable set, however	15:56
rain	you have no permissions to access the X server (:0.0) it points to.	15:56
rain	Try running xhost +localhost before su'ing to root.	15:56
jussi01	!paste	15:56
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	15:56
mefisto__	kaddi: you could also put your aliases in .bashrc (you probably already have that file in your home dir)	15:57
rain	I have problem with installing crossover office	15:58
rain	http://paste.ubuntu.com/121910/	15:58
rain	what should I do?	15:59
kaddi	mefist__ i'm looking at this right now :)	15:59
nalvarez	argh	15:59
nalvarez	how do I change my screen resolution?	15:59
nalvarez	I have a widescreen LCD, but System settings -> Display only shows 4:3 resolutions	15:59
nalvarez	everything looks stretched	16:00
kaddi	just figuring out what the proposed aliases in bashrc do and if i want to use them :D	16:00
nalvarez	highest listed (the one in use) is 1024x768, the LCD native res is 1280x720	16:00
mefisto__	kaddi: that example I gave you was wrong. sorry. it would be: alias l="ls -l"	16:03
mefisto__	kaddi: you need the quotes to include the space	16:04
nalvarez	or use functions instead of aliases	16:04
JuJuBee	Where are the KDE focus stealing prevention settings in System Settings?	16:05
Zombine	Morning everyone :D	16:05
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mefisto__	JuJuBee: window behaviour?	16:08
* skulev smotrit		16:09
Zombine	Does Ubuntu have some daemon that automatically mounts removable media?	16:10
JuJuBee	mefisto__: yes, thanks.	16:12
rickest	Zombine: yes, autofs. most desktops include that automatically or you can add it yourself if you're using aminimal desktop	16:14
arshad	how do i use command in IRC	16:14
rickest	arshad: /help	16:15
arshad	burst , closae , cloide, connect	16:15
altrortla	!kommander	16:15
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kommander	16:15
Zombine	rickest: I see. Thanks	16:15
altrortla	there's a tutorial to learn "kommander" application... or a channel?	16:16
rickest	Zombine: full-blown desktops (KDE, etc) include that functionality automatically	16:16
mefisto__	rickest: do you have autofs? I thought it was HAL that detects removeable media	16:16
altrortla	!coffee	16:16
ubottu	coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java	16:16
slacr	hi	16:17
altrortla	hi	16:17
kaddi	!hi \|slacr	16:17
ubottu	slacr: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	16:17
slacr	epic, i have a question regarding a bug with kde4.2	16:17
rickest	mefisto__: I think dbus in KDE, yeah. on my kubuntu box that happens automatically; on other distros I have autofs installed manually	16:18
altrortla	anybody has a Kommander tutorial?	16:18
slacr	after following the guidelines on the official page for kde 4.2 i ended up with frameless windows that could not be moved, does anyone know what causes this bug?	16:18
rickest	slacr: sounds like no window manager is running; i.e., kwin or whatever 4.2 uses	16:19
altrortla	#kommander	16:19
altrortla	mah..	16:20
slacr	hm, okay, is the windowmanager in kde4.2 different from 4.1?	16:20
rickest	slacr: I'm not sure if kwin got upgraded or replaced	16:21
maco	slacr: kwin	16:22
maco	same as always	16:22
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brad_	I'm looking at downloading the 64bit version, but I only see it for amd.	16:23
slacr	brad_, the amd version supports core2duo and such	16:24
brad_	the amd version supports xeon processors ?	16:24
SlimeyPete	brad_: it's for AMD64, which is the common name for both AMD64 and EMT64 (intel)	16:25
astromme	Yes, it's just named amd because amd invented the technology	16:25
brad_	i guess that works.	16:25
SlimeyPete	it's just that AMD64 got their 64-bit extensions out into the world before Intel did, so everyone adopted the AMD64 name for all 64-bit x86 processors	16:25
shadeslayer	second that	16:25
shadeslayer	im using it right now	16:25
astromme	and had amd64 processers almost 2 years before intel did... so by the time intel comes out with its tech (based off of amds), everyone was on amd64	16:25
shadeslayer	on Intel Centrino	16:25
astromme	well Pentium M, eh?	16:26
astromme	iirc Centrino is a platform	16:26
astromme	like amd Spider	16:26
ghostcube	Pentium M != centrino	16:27
brad_	I've got 16gig of ram, so I figure a 64bit os would be better than pae	16:27
astromme	The Pentium M processor is a required component of the Centrino Platform	16:27
spawn57	does intel license the 64 bit extensions from amd?	16:27
astromme	again, this is iirc	16:27
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astromme	spawn57: I think so... but intel/amd cross license so much	16:28
spawn57	ahh	16:28
astromme	they're pretty much linked at the hip	16:28
spawn57	amd doesn't seem to be doing so good lately though	16:28
brad_	my new server will be here today	16:28
HUALLA	XZ	16:29
astromme	eh, it's always in cycles	16:29
HUALLA	AUUUUUUUUUUUUU	16:29
Slartibartfast	brad_: this link might interest you then http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/08/xeon_amd64_fix/	16:30
maco	astromme: i thought centrino was "whatever intel's current cpu line is + whatever intel's current chipset is + whatever intel's current wireless is"	16:30
astromme	yes	16:30
Slartibartfast	with 16 GB RAM you really need to have a 64bit system	16:30
astromme	well, sort of	16:30
astromme	for their moble platform	16:30
astromme	and it's versioned	16:30
zer0o	hi guys, in need of an mp3 and mp4 renamer, a software able to rename LOTS of files (tags included) according to certain parameters, at the same time, could u suggest some? the ones that ive found dont work for mp4 and dont have many parameters to choose among, plus it seems they dont work well with LOTS of files, any suggestions? thanks	16:31
mimi	Bonjour	16:35
jones	new dolphin on kde 4.2 is so much slower than in 4.1.4, is it possible to install the older dolphin in kde 4.2??	16:35
venik	I am resizing a partition on a 500 gb drive (kubuntu 8.10- 64 bit). It is taking a VERY long time-- saying 0% finished for the last hour. Is that normal?	16:36
venik	1/3 of the partition has Vista on it, so I do not want to reformat	16:37
venik	zero, Isn't mp3tag good for that?	16:39
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=== Guest18958 is now known as bishopz
bishopz	-yawns-	16:41
bishopz	who knows how to uninstall a program (america online) out of wine	16:41
mefisto__	bishopz: do you have a wine submenu in Kmenu? or kickoff?	16:43
bishopz	actually im on ubuntu right now	16:44
bishopz	but yea theres a submenu	16:44
mefisto__	bishopz: is there "uninstall wine software" in there?	16:45
bishopz	the thing is, i go to uninstal applications in wine, andd it attempts to look for aol, but i guess because its a virtual	16:45
bishopz	it wont find it	16:45
bishopz	yea .. it brings up the prompt box "uninstal ..."	16:45
bishopz	i click aol, it says searching for versions	16:45
bishopz	and than crashes and i have to force quit it	16:45
franic	bishopz: have you tried "uninstaller" ?	16:46
maco	...	16:46
maco	i'm left wondering why install aol in wine to begin with	16:46
maco	s/in wine//	16:46
mefisto__	maco: too late now :)	16:46
mefisto__	bishopz: if wine doesn't uninstall it, you can remove the installed files from ~/.wine/drive_c (or wherever you've set wine to install things if you changed defaults)	16:47
bishopz	because i couldnt find an aol to run on linux	16:48
bishopz	lol	16:48
bishopz	mefisto__: thank you	16:48
maco	bishopz: the s/in wine// was meant to imply "or rather, why install aol at all?"	16:49
maco	are they still an ISP?	16:50
bishopz	maco: boredom	16:50
bishopz	yea they are lol	16:50
bishopz	theyre now free	16:50
bishopz	;x	16:50
maco	because nobody would pay for their dialup that's half the speed of other dialup and requires software that's harder to remove than your average virus?	16:51
bishopz	HaHa. mhmmmm	16:51
felix46	hello	17:01
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felix46	hii	17:04
kaddi	!hi @felix64	17:05
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about hi @felix64	17:05
kaddi	!hi \|felix64	17:05
ubottu	felix64: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	17:05
felix46	i need translate Konversation, i have file .po of the language, what i did?	17:05
bishopz	Ok i removed the folders manually completely uninstalled wine, and wine still shows under applications? wwith AOL	17:09
SlimeyPete	did you use adept/apt-get to uninstall wine?	17:10
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bishopz	no just did it from repos	17:10
SlimeyPete	oh... you downloaded the package file manually?	17:11
bishopz	mhm	17:12
SlimeyPete	if you did that, you need to use dpkg -r to uninstall it	17:12
bishopz	let me try hang on	17:12
me	if i installed a program from a .deb file how do i remove it?	17:12
SlimeyPete	in the future it's best to use adept/apt-get :)	17:12
SlimeyPete	me: dpkg -r packagename	17:12
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SlimeyPete	e.g. dpkg -r wine	17:12
SlimeyPete	well, "sudo dpkg -r wine" to be precise	17:12
dr_Willis	You mean to say that the applications you Installed with WINE are sjhowing up in the users menus?	17:13
slacr	any of you fellas use MATLAB with simulink regularly in X11?	17:13
bishopz	warning: ignoring request to remove wine, only the config	17:14
bishopz	files of which are on the system. Use --purge to remove them too.	17:14
Guest42987	ahh.. thank you	17:14
Guest42987	wow the .deb package system is by far the best.. had i installed an rpm i would have been stuck forver	17:14
Guest42987	i am new to ubuntu came from opensuse and mandriva.. so far it has been wonderful thanks to all your help!	17:15
Guest42987	if i download a program that is in a tarball how do i turn it into a .deb so that i can install it	17:16
dr_Willis	You would need to compile it and do a bit of work.	17:16
slacr	Guest42987, its likely you must compile it yes	17:17
dr_Willis	You dont have to turn it into a deb.. but it may be a good idea	17:17
SlimeyPete	Guest42987: that's difficult. Is the program not available via Adept/apt-get?	17:17
SlimeyPete	those are the preferred methods for installing things	17:17
Guest42987	well it is vuze.. and there is a really old version of it in apt-get.. and the updater is broken	17:18
Guest42987	i want to use the newest version and apt only has like 3 in there	17:18
SlimeyPete	Guest42987: what version do you want?	17:18
Guest42987	i think 4.1 is out now?	17:18
SlimeyPete	there's one on getdeb: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Vuze	17:18
SlimeyPete	^^ 4.0	17:18
bishopz	ok did dpkg, it still leaves a folder in my applications	17:19
bishopz	and aol is still showing even tho the folders have been removed and deleted	17:20
SlimeyPete	bishopz: have you tried logging out & back in again?	17:20
bishopz	brb	17:20
SlimeyPete	that forces a menu refresh, I think	17:20
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Guest42987	how do i download form that site?	17:20
Guest42987	must i sign up?	17:20
jals	hi guys i'm getting regular firefox crashes on Intrepid with kde 4.2, anyone else finding this?	17:21
SlimeyPete	Guest42987: just click on the 4.0 link next to your version of Ubuntu	17:21
SlimeyPete	then click on the download link	17:21
PhilippeP	jals: with me it crashes only when I close it so not very annoying	17:22
dr_Willis	I recall a lot of people in here the otehr day saying they MUCH perfered the older vuze,. or whatever it was called befor it became vuze :)	17:22
jals	PhilippeP, for me when it does happen i seem to be scrolling with the mouse wheel at the time	17:22
SlimeyPete	dr_Willis: Azureus	17:22
Guest42987	haha nm i got it.. thanks..	17:22
SlimeyPete	it used to be a bittorrent client, now it's an all-singing all-dancing media client that brings your PC to its knees	17:23
Guest42987	the older version doesn;t support as many transfer protocols such as freenet	17:23
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=== Guest31585 is now known as bishopz
bishopz	nope still a folder there	17:24
Guest42987	hmm what was that site you just sent me to? and is it a pretty safe site as far as getting software	17:25
Guest42987	i have been looking for some stuff that isnt availabel through apt-get	17:26
mefisto__	http://www.getdeb.net/	17:27
Guest42987	cool thanks once again for the help guys ubuntu community support rocks!	17:30
jals	another problem i'm having is every rar file i download from firefox is corrupt	17:33
jals	i think firefox in general is having issues	17:33
jals	how can i do a completely fresh install, remove firefox and the .mozilla directory?	17:33
dr_Willis	use the package manager to remove firefox.. and delete the users .mozilla directory	17:36
dr_Willis	but i find it hard to belive thats the problem	17:36
dr_Willis	try a different browser like opera perhaps?	17:36
jals	yeah i guess i should test that first	17:36
dr_Willis	Where are you saving the rar files to?	17:36
jals	desktop	17:36
dr_Willis	I also recall some odd rar files i found once that i had to use winrar to exctract	17:36
jals	it's been about 5 in a row	17:37
mefisto__	try wget	17:37
Pici	unrar-free cannot handle multi-part rar files or 3.0 format files.	17:37
jals	oh	17:37
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alarm	hello, i am trying to install the java plugin for firefox. but i do not see any available package with the name sun-java6-plugin . (i got jdk installed , but i do not see anything about the plugin)	17:38
alarm	* maxagaz has quit ("Leaving")	17:38
Pici	jals: The nonfree(non-open source) unrar tool should be able to open it.	17:38
jals	in synaptic?	17:38
Pici	!info unrar	17:38
ubottu	unrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.8.2-1 (intrepid), package size 96 kB, installed size 244 kB	17:38
jals	cheers, installing now	17:39
jals	incidentally the free version didn't seem to be installed either	17:39
jals	hey i think that was the answer Pici, thanks!	17:39
slcr	while on the subject of rar, how well supported is shell integration?	17:40
Pici	I don't know. I don't use KDE.	17:40
slcr	brb, xorg restart	17:41
slcr	re :)	17:42
dr_Willis	wine winrar.exe :P	17:42
slcr	that works? (for shell integration?)	17:43
dr_Willis	what does 'shell integration' actually mean?	17:43
dr_Willis	!info unp	17:43
ubottu	unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15 (intrepid), package size 10 kB, installed size 76 kB	17:43
silentx	my os is ubutnu Gnome but i have installed kopete 0.60 and i want to update	17:44
silentx	could help me ?	17:44
slcr	its like, right-click-drag -> select unrar here in a dropdown menu	17:44
slcr	those sort of things	17:44
mefisto__	slcr: if I double-click a rar, it opens in ark	17:45
slcr	mefisto__: yeah, thats "okay" but comming from a world where you can dragdrop things its still slightly annoying	17:46
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dr_Willis	I rarely ever extract archives via the GUI. I tend to use the command line and the unp command. :)	17:46
slcr	i may get to that stage one day, but it will take some time	17:47
dr_Willis	thats 'shell' integeration. :) heh.	17:47
dr_Willis	unp whateverrandiomarchivename.whatever	17:47
dr_Willis	:)	17:47
jals	now i just need to figure out these constant firefox crashes	17:48
dr_Willis	run it from a terminal.. look for error messages	17:48
dr_Willis	I would guess flash or java or javascript to be the blame	17:48
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slcr	that will still drop it where you're at, which is ok, but wanting it somewhere else, even with the sweet tab shortcuts, takes more time than click done	17:48
dr_Willis	i find the gui stuff takes longer.	17:49
dr_Willis	:)	17:49
dr_Willis	or it uses some lame name.. or it goofs stuff otherwise	17:49
silentx	people can you help me :(	17:49
dr_Willis	silentx, what was the actual question. Yiou want to update? update what?	17:49
mefisto__	jals: try starting in safemode (no extensions or themes) firefox -safe-mode	17:49
alarm	any idea with the java plugin ?	17:50
silentx	update Kopete	17:50
dr_Willis	sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade	17:50
silentx	while i'm using gnome interface !	17:50
dr_Willis	that should get the latest version in the repos.	17:50
jals	mefisto__, i don't have any extensions installed	17:50
dr_Willis	If you want a newer version then whats in the repos.. thats harder.	17:50
jals	but i will run from CL in a minute	17:50
silentx	yea that's what i mean	17:50
silentx	:)	17:50
PhilippeP	silentx: upgrade to wich version ??	17:50
dr_Willis	check the PPA repos perhaps.	17:50
dr_Willis	!ppa	17:50
ubottu	With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.	17:50
silentx	0.70	17:50
alarm	!java	17:51
ubottu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper	17:51
alarm	!java-plugin	17:51
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about java-plugin	17:51
PhilippeP	silentx: it's in intrepid-backports	17:51
silentx	interpid-backports >> what do you mean ?	17:51
silentx	i'm new on linux	17:51
PhilippeP	silentx: you should activate the intrepid-backports in your repo manager ...	17:52
silentx	umm could tell me how :$	17:52
mefisto__	!info java-plugin	17:53
ubottu	Package java-plugin does not exist in intrepid	17:53
slcr	in the aptitude package manager you can look for something along the lines of "repositories"	17:53
mefisto__	!info sun-java6-plugin	17:53
ubottu	sun-java6-plugin (source: sun-java6): The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-10-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 1 kB, installed size 100 kB	17:53
alex_	hi , I just finish to install and update Kubuntu,...... there are few importantrepository to add on the list '	17:53
slcr	silentx: there you could find checkboxes for adding addtional repositories	17:54
silentx	aptitude >> i think this on KDE i'm using Gnome :S	17:54
alex_	I mean, where I can get a good list of repository for Kubuntu ?	17:54
slcr	silentx: you have aptitude on gnome also, it may be called "package manager" or so though	17:55
silentstri16	how do I log into my nick again?	17:55
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PhilippeP	silentx: somewhere in your menu the should be a repository manager or something ...	17:55
silentstri	ty	17:55
silentx	synapatic pacakage manager :D	17:55
slcr	that one it is :)	17:56
silentx	oky then ?	17:56
silentx	what should i add ?	17:56
mefisto__	silentx: look in the settings menu, repositories	17:56
silentx	yep i found it	17:56
PhilippeP	silentx: there is alsoo a direct entrance to the repo manager but since I'm on KDE I don't know the correct name	17:57
silentx	yea i know from the sofware sources	17:57
mefisto__	silentx: or better still, settings, preferences :)	17:57
mefisto__	silentx: no, that's not what I thought it was	17:58
alex_	yeah there is, but if I don't mistake afriend of mine said that there are a lot more repo, to add on the third part software, is right ?	17:58
silentstri	how do I log into nickserv again?	17:58
silentx	oky i will go to setting , preferences in the package manager	17:58
silentx	Then what should i add ?	17:59
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mefisto__	silentx: kdesudo software-properties-kde (for kde). the gnome equivalent I think is gksudo software-properties-gtk	18:00
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silentx	already installed :)	18:01
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silentx	0.68	18:01
silentx	0.68.1	18:01
Silentstri	hello all	18:02
Silentstri	anyone can help me with setting up ndiswrapper and a WPC54G driver on my laptop?	18:03
slcr	upgrading to kde4.2, wish me luck :)	18:05
Silentstri	anyone can help me with setting up ndiswrapper and a WPC54G driver on my laptop?	18:05
Silentstri	>.>	18:07
Silentstri	ciao then ..	18:07
slcr	not sure what that is, sorry :) suppose it has something to do with WLAN?	18:07
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solifugus	Twice, recently, kubuntu somehow changed my input to as if the shift key were being held down.. and I had to reboot to fix it... loosing work	18:11
solifugus	How can I FIX IT IN THE FUTURE>> IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN> WTF!!!	18:11
solifugus	kde4 has serious problems.. now I am typing normal again.. what's going on?	18:12
Wargasm	kde4 is working ok for me so far :P	18:14
Wargasm	4.2	18:14
mefisto__	solifugus: like the capslock key is on?	18:15
Wargasm	lol, that's what i thought...	18:15
Wargasm	kde 4 is cruise control for cool	18:15
girevikmoto	newbie here	18:16
Wargasm	welcome, girevikmoto	18:16
girevikmoto	im trying to share a folder on my linux box with my roommates xp box	18:16
girevikmoto	ive configured samba	18:16
girevikmoto	do i need NFS to export the samba share?	18:17
Wargasm	i'm not sure...but you might.	18:17
Wargasm	i'm no expert on samba, but i've used it with windows before	18:17
solifugus	mefisto__: no.. the caps lock doesn't fix it.. I just noticed that hititng the ! key fixes it, until a minute or so later when it comes on again.	18:17
girevikmoto	or rather... ive created the samba share, do i need NFS to export the directory filesystem, or is that a function of Samba	18:19
Wargasm	try installing NFS if you don't mind using the space	18:19
mefisto__	solifugus: what kind of keyboard? see if there is a keyboard layout that matches your hardware in systemsettings > regional & language	18:19
solifugus	I really don't want to switch to gnome, like Linus says he did after realizing how messed up kde 4 is.. but I might have to go back to kde 3. Linus used to praise kde and criticized gnome.	18:19
solifugus	mefisto__: standard u.s. english.. HP laptop..	18:19
Wargasm	who cares what linus thinks	18:19
girevikmoto	(kde4 is still not worth using? havent tried out the new revision yet...)	18:20
Wargasm	kde 4.2 is good so far, i've had it for a couple days	18:20
fosco__	kde4.2 is ready for a real use	18:20
solifugus	Wargasm: it's an illustration of how hard it is for long-time kde lovers like me are having a really hard time.. not only with bugs but design issues, too.. It's tragic.. I am hoping things get better..	18:20
mefisto__	solifugus: do you have kde 4.2 ?	18:21
Wargasm	solifugus: things will get better, 4.2 is proof of that imo. since 4.0 i've seen improvement.	18:21
Wargasm	get 4.2 if you don't have it	18:21
solifugus	mefisto__: I don't know.. how can I find out?	18:21
mefisto__	solifugus: konqueror help, about kde (for example)	18:22
Wargasm	should show your version name in about	18:22
Wargasm	or version number	18:22
solifugus	Wargasm: 4.1.4... how can I upgrade to 4.2 ?	18:22
Wargasm	solifugus: you have to add a repository to the third party tab in sources	18:23
solifugus	ok..	18:23
Wargasm	let me find the repository	18:23
mefisto__	solifugus: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 (or enable backports and update/upgrade)	18:23
jals	right, firefox finally crashed and gave me an error	18:23
Wargasm	solifugus: also let me give you a warning	18:23
Wargasm	i had an issue when upgrading	18:24
jals	this is the error http://pastebin.com/m22a205a	18:24
Wargasm	when i was upgrading it must not have updated everything. i logged in and nothing showed up on the desktop. so i restarted x and changed the session to "console" in console i did "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" everything was fine after the upgrade ran in console.	18:25
jals	is there anything useful there?	18:25
solifugus	Wargasm: I've never had an version upgrade without major problems on any distro since I started with Slackware 97, back in 1998.	18:25
solifugus	Wargasm: I just backup my data and install fresh.	18:25
Wargasm	then you haven't been using ubuntu gnome	18:25
Wargasm	because i've upgraded numerous times	18:26
Wargasm	without issue	18:26
solifugus	I've always issues	18:26
Wargasm	but i wasn't worried about data. i backup everything important.	18:26
bishopz	mk im pissed, bout to reinstal	18:26
Wargasm	so i can be reckless	18:26
slcr	alright! almost painless upgrade to 4.2 ;)	18:27
gothpaw	Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive.... See here for details --> http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html	18:27
bishopz	Gothpaw: whats your issue	18:27
gothpaw	too much to paste here, hence the link in my request for help :)	18:28
bishopz	lol didnt even see that	18:28
bishopz	hold on	18:28
Wargasm	gothpaw: hang on i had an issue similar before	18:29
Wargasm	http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/manual-mount-external-usb-hard-drive-in-ubuntu-519463/	18:29
Wargasm	gothpaw: check out that link	18:29
bishopz	Good call war	18:29
bishopz	it should auto mount.	18:29
Wargasm	it worked for me last time i had a drive that wouldn't mount	18:29
girevikmoto	join #samba	18:30
Walzmyn	How do you edit the favorites in kmenu?	18:30
Wargasm	yeah i had a WD external drive that refused to auto mount, so i had to manually do it	18:30
bishopz	rofl i just had a WD issue lastnight	18:30
slcr	Walzmyn: 4.something? just rightclick?	18:30
Wargasm	bishopz: wouldn't mount?	18:30
bishopz	my WD usb external, would mount, but wasnt reading shit, now i can only access through dolphin	18:30
Walzmyn	slcr, right click allows me to remove, I want to add something	18:30
Wargasm	weird, bishopz, my WD worked fine after i manually mounted it.	18:31
mefisto__	jals: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=953000&page=2	18:31
bishopz	yea, mine doesnt. i can use the files off the disk, cant move anything to it, its saying registering as read only	18:31
slcr	Walzmyn: any link you find in other apps or so, you can right click and add to favourites	18:31
Wargasm	oh i see, so it's a permissions issue	18:31
bishopz	idc i was really only pissed about the 100+ movies on it	18:31
Walzmyn	slcr oh	18:31
Wargasm	did you sudo mount it? does that make a difference?	18:31
jals	mefisto__, i actually found a link suggesting it's a problem with the gtk engine	18:32
bishopz	yea to /media	18:32
bishopz	and everything	18:32
Wargasm	weird	18:32
jals	this describes it exactly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine/+bug/279240	18:32
gothpaw	wargasm: unfortunately that link does not help nor apply to me....	18:32
Wargasm	it doesn't work, gothpaw?	18:32
Wargasm	did you try running the first command listed?	18:32
bishopz	Probably not.	18:32
bishopz	lol	18:32
gothpaw	Wargasm: everything in that link I have done numerous times	18:32
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Wargasm	ok gothpaw, make sure you aren't just putting in "sda1" make sure the "sda1" is correct	18:33
bishopz	when you plug in the drive via usb , doees it appear on your desk top?	18:33
Wargasm	it could be "sdb" or something	18:33
gothpaw	Wargasm: please see the link I added to my request	18:33
bishopz	i believe its adb1	18:34
bishopz	sdb1*	18:34
gothpaw	Wargasm: yes I know, in this case the drive is sdd1	18:34
bishopz	^	18:34
bishopz	:D	18:34
bishopz	i are shmart	18:34
gothpaw	bishopz: sdb1 is another drive.... sdc1 is also another drive, the one in question is sdd1	18:34
bishopz	gothpaw: does the icon show on your desk top when u plug it in	18:34
bishopz	yes im aware	18:35
gothpaw	bishopz: I don't use those icons, so I couldn't tell you	18:35
bishopz	ok, places	18:35
Wargasm	did you try /mnt/sdd1 instead of "/home/gothpaw/extras2"	18:35
Walzmyn	slcr, thankyou, that helped a bunch	18:35
bishopz	^	18:35
AndySpain	folks, why is there absolutely no protection for root account??	18:36
fosco__	what do you mean Andry_Sleeps ??	18:36
SlimeyPete	No protection?	18:36
Pici	Protection?	18:36
Wargasm	lol	18:36
SlimeyPete	The root account is disabled by default...	18:36
gothpaw	Wargasm: the path of mounting should be irrelevant, considering all other drives are mounting properly (outside of /mnt/ ) ... ie, my other USB Drive is sdc1 and is mounted to /home/gothpaw/Extras .... but yes I have tried other mounting locations	18:36
AndySpain	Well, when starting the computer	18:36
mefisto__	jals: what theme are you using for gtk apps?	18:36
fosco__	andy---, in ubuntu there is no root account	18:36
AndySpain	you can select Recovery mode	18:36
slcr	Walzmyn: glad to help :)	18:37
AndySpain	and there you can enter a root shell	18:37
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AndySpain	without ANY pw being required	18:37
Pici	AndySpain: So remove that entry from grub.	18:37
jals	mefisto__, gtk style?	18:37
alex_	How I can get automatically mounted all the partition I have in my system !?!	18:37
fosco__	AndySpain, same as almost all distros, you can pass protrect grub if you want	18:37
jals	i was using GTK style but i've switched it to Raleigh now at the suggestion of someone on that link	18:37
gothpaw	Wargasm: just for the sake of trying your help.... no I get the same error when trying to mount it to /mnt/sdd1	18:38
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Wargasm	ok, thanks gothpaw	18:38
gothpaw	the error doesn't pertain to a mounting point though, it is relevant to the filesystem	18:39
AndySpain	Pici, dosco:: I would prefer having a pw there. I don't wanna remove it from grub, for sometimes i already needed it. For instances when on login screen I could not enter kde anymore and neither could i enter konsole from the login scrren, but in recovery mode i could	18:39
AndySpain	there is no need to have recovery mode pw-free	18:39
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AndySpain	is there?	18:39
Wargasm	yeah, i'm trying to figure out what could be wrong if it isn't a mounting issue, gothpaw	18:39
AndySpain	fosco__ how can I pw-protect grub?	18:40
fosco__	AndySpain, modify your menu.lst or use any GUI like startupmanager to put a password on grub	18:40
Wargasm	gothpaw: does the drive work on other pcs?	18:40
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silentstri	hey everyone :P	18:41
Wargasm	hey, silentstri	18:41
bishopz	god that was stupid of me	18:41
bishopz	wargasm any idea how to get manually removed icons out of wine? ;x	18:42
gothpaw	Wargasm: only other PC's I have currently produce the same error (they are all Kubuntu 8.10 PC's)	18:42
Walzmyn	what is a .desktop file?	18:42
bishopz	!destop	18:42
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about destop	18:42
Wargasm	not sure, bishopz, sorry. not familiar with wine.	18:42
bishopz	ksd	18:42
bishopz	!desktop	18:42
ubottu	A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors	18:42
Wargasm	gothpaw: do you think the drive could be broken/corrupt?	18:43
silentstri	anyone can help me install ndiswrapper and a driver really fast?	18:43
Walzmyn	I know what the heck a desktop is. I asked about a XXX.desktop file	18:43
bishopz	shit, this sucks im too much of a perfectionist to not reinstal ;x	18:43
bishopz	:-P	18:43
gothpaw	Wargasm: I surely hope not as there is some seriously Vital Work data on the drive	18:43
Wargasm	lmao, i hear you bishopz	18:43
jussi01	!ohmy \| bishopz	18:43
ubottu	bishopz: Please watch your language, attitude, and topic to help keep this channel friendly and helpful. Remember, there are kids here!	18:43
shadeslayer	silentstri: sudo apt-get install <program>	18:43
Wargasm	gothpaw: don't abandon hope yet, i'm nowhere near an expert on this issue.	18:44
bishopz	Shadeslsyer: whats up ;)	18:44
jussi01	!ndiswrapper \| silentstri	18:44
ubottu	silentstri: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	18:44
shadeslayer	GNOME is up	18:44
shadeslayer	:)	18:44
bishopz	lol	18:44
silentstri	i have a super nooby question.......... what do I do with these comands?!	18:44
Wargasm	silentstri: what device is it for? i've had a lot of experience getting wifi drivers.	18:44
shadeslayer	or rather going UP	18:44
bishopz	lol everything coming along?	18:44
Wargasm	open terminal and paste the command in, silentstri	18:45
shadeslayer	silentstri: lol,RUN in konsole	18:45
silentstri	OHH	18:45
silentstri	i c i think	18:45
shadeslayer	silentstri: its like a DOS command	18:45
bishopz	my laptop + wifi issues = Grrrr	18:45
Wargasm	if you have trouble, PM me, silentstri	18:45
silentstri	ok, so I have ndiswrapper and I have the driver for my WPC54G wifi card, how do I make them work?	18:45
shadeslayer	well DOS commands run in DOS,these run in Konsole	18:45
jcr	the kernel 2.7.x will be available for 8.04 anytime?	18:45
Wargasm	it's the same concept though, shadeslayer	18:46
shadeslayer	silentstri: deb package	18:46
shadeslayer	Wargasm: obviouxly	18:46
shadeslayer	*s	18:46
shadeslayer	brb in GNOME	18:46
bishopz	fuck it fresh instal	18:46
silentstri	shadeslayer: whats a deb package?	18:46
bishopz	coming tonight	18:46
bishopz	=P	18:46
silentstri	what with the red chat ??	18:46
Wargasm	red chat is highlighting, it helps get your attention when your name is written	18:47
bishopz	lol	18:47
gothpaw	silentstri: it's called highlighting.... used when your name is typed	18:47
silentstri	ill ask later xD	18:47
bishopz	^	18:47
bishopz	ooye	18:47
Wargasm	you can add more words to be highlighted	18:47
silentstri	so is there a command I need to install ndiswrapper? or is it hella complex?	18:48
AndySpain	SlimeyPete why is root disabled? isn't sudo the same as being root - i mean having the same privileges?	18:48
mefisto__	!root	18:49
ubottu	Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	18:49
Wargasm	hah	18:49
AndySpain	thx, mefisto__	18:49
silentstri	so is there a command I need to install ndiswrapper? or is it hella complex?	18:49
Wargasm	silentstri: did you try "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper"	18:49
silentstri	in konsole? brb	18:49
Wargasm	yeah	18:49
jcr	some solutions in ubuntu forums, suggest to uninstall the ndiswrapper package, and install it from tar.gz	18:50
bishopz	Thats what i did	18:51
bishopz	Js	18:51
Wargasm	i've always had good luck with installing from repos	18:51
bishopz	Brb tho	18:51
silentstri	Wargasm: It didnt work, gave me a list of errors about cannot mount etc	18:51
Wargasm	let me pm you, silentstri	18:51
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bishopz	*/killme	18:54
bishopz	;x	18:54
shadeslayer	GNOME is uh.... nice	18:55
bishopz	Wargasm: quick question i dont know realllly how to answer it to a friend correctly	18:55
bishopz	gnome <3	18:55
* gothpaw sighs ...... grrrrrr		18:55
shadeslayer	a welcome change	18:56
AndySpain	fosco__ still i think it's a problem for security. many unexperienced users like me, install kubuntu, set the passwords, and think, now the system is safe.	18:58
bishopz	If my friend is doing a fresh HD ... no windows... loading ubuntu, on the partion, she wants to choose "entire disk" right?	18:58
AndySpain	and until the try the recovery they will not now, that there is root access to all the system at no expense	18:59
fosco__	AndySpain, if you do not like that way just change it	18:59
raptor	hey guys	18:59
jcr	bishopz> that's correct	18:59
AndySpain	fosco__ I mean for other users. who do not know that they should change this	18:59
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shadeslayer	guys wont user switcher work with GNOME alongsside KDE??	18:59
bishopz	jcr: ty	18:59
AndySpain	I have already changed it	18:59
AndySpain	here	18:59
shadeslayer	*s	18:59
Guest95319	i got de 8.10 installation	19:00
Guest95319	and now i am configuring my website server	19:01
Guest95319	this is so cool	19:01
AndySpain	bye folks	19:01
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raptor_	where are you from?	19:02
raptor_	i amd in mexico	19:02
silentstri	lol 2o more minutes in class for "research" xD	19:03
jcr	i'm in mexico too	19:03
silentstri	canada ftw	19:03
silentstri	wargasm still around?	19:03
Tm_T	!ot	19:03
ubottu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	19:03
Wargasm	hey, silentstri, still here	19:04
silentstri	ok, so im opening adept again	19:05
Wargasm	ok	19:05
Wargasm	try refreshing your lists	19:05
raptor_	i dont know how to access my website remotely	19:06
silentstri	nope, nothing	19:06
Wargasm	no ndiswrapper?	19:06
Wargasm	hmm	19:06
raptor_	is there anybody can help me with???	19:06
silentstri	i dled it	19:07
silentstri	if that makes a dif...	19:07
Wargasm	it should still show up in your adept package manager	19:07
mefisto__	ndiswrapper-common	19:07
Wargasm	can you click on sources, then "edit software sources"	19:07
Wargasm	yeah, it's ndiswrapper-common	19:08
silentstri	ok	19:08
gothpaw	Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive. See here for details --> http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html	19:08
Wargasm	make sure on the first tab that proprietary drivers box is checked	19:08
slcr	not working still gothpaw?	19:08
shadeslayer	i cant get the user switcher applet to work in gnome	19:09
silentstri	ehhhhh where is sources	19:09
sorteal	try your question in ##gnome	19:09
sorteal	or #ubuntu	19:09
Wargasm	ok here's the problem silentstri, there's like 3 package managers, each are slightly different	19:10
silentstri	oh ya I havent installed ndiswrapper yet, or is that what adept should do	19:10
Wargasm	yeah	19:10
gothpaw	slcr: nope.... and I'm starting to get worried as I need the data that is on the drive	19:10
Wargasm	that's what we're trying to do through adept, silentstri	19:10
silentstri	o ok	19:11
Wargasm	silentstri: click on the k menu, go to computer, then go to adept installer	19:12
Wargasm	just so we're on the same page here	19:12
silentstri	i did	19:12
silentstri	im running 6.06	19:12
Wargasm	kk	19:12
Wargasm	now, do you see sources with the globe icon on the left?	19:12
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silentstri	wait computer?	19:13
silentstri	i have "system"	19:13
Wargasm	third tab over on the menu	19:14
Wargasm	main tab	19:14
Wargasm	"favorites" then "applications" then "computer"	19:14
Wargasm	are you using kde4 or not	19:14
silentstri	uhm, dont think my kmenu is the same	19:14
mefisto__	Wargasm: silentstri is running 6.06	19:15
silentstri	or my adept	19:15
Wargasm	ok, i'm not familiar with that sorry. but if you can figure out if you have the proprietary driver repo active	19:15
Wargasm	do that	19:15
slcr	gothpaw: i only have a faint recollection of this, but is it not possible to spec fat32? or add some other flags	19:15
silentstri	do the whatsit with the hoosit?	19:15
Wargasm	should be in software sources or something similar	19:16
silentstri	ok.... shall look	19:16
Wargasm	see if you can find the thing called software sources in the menu	19:17
bishopz	some see if they can dig up how to remove icons out of wine that have been deleted already	19:17
mefisto__	bishopz: edit the menu and remove them	19:18
bishopz	how so	19:19
bishopz	im new towine and such	19:19
mefisto__	bishopz: right-click the menu icon, then "menu editor"	19:20
bishopz	brings up main menu	19:21
bishopz	ohhhh	19:21
bishopz	I SEE	19:21
bishopz	mefisto__: ty very much	19:21
silentstri	brb taking notes -_-'	19:23
bishopz	linuxwiz: =) whats up	19:25
sorteal	Does anyone use konqueror as their standard web browser?	19:27
Wargasm	id like to, but firefox is just too nice.	19:28
sorteal	Well I would too but I've noticed it has issues loading some images in kde 3.5. Any ideas on what might cause this or a possible plugin/patch I'm missing?	19:29
mefisto__	sorteal: loading images in firefox?	19:30
sorteal	konqueror	19:30
Wargasm	do they load in firefox but not konq	19:30
sorteal	yup	19:30
Wargasm	weird	19:30
kuaera	I use Arora as my standard browser, here	19:30
mefisto__	sorteal: what kind of image?	19:30
kuaera	Arora runs on qtwebkit, and is focused on KDE integration right now	19:30
kuaera	It does require Qt4.4+, however	19:31
sorteal	I'm pretty sure they're PNG images	19:31
silentstri	ugh history >.<	19:31
mediaman	is there a program that is similar to windows media center for linux? i found elisa but is that the only one?	19:34
altrortla	there's a tutorial to learn "kommander" application... or a channel?	19:34
fosco__	mediaman, there are many of them, the one i like is xbmc, but not sure if it is in repos	19:35
Exilant	media center, like amarok with video?	19:35
Wargasm	amarok is such a nice player compared to most of the stuff available on windows	19:36
mediaman	i want something that will work with a remote and occupy the whole screen such as elisa does but elisa isnt very stable	19:36
Exilant	mplayer works with a remote. dunno about kaffeine (and dunno if it is available on ibex)	19:37
Exilant	but kaffeine is really nice for dvb-t and dvds	19:37
Wargasm	pretty sure kaffeine works on ibex	19:37
Wargasm	haven't tried it though	19:37
bishopz	it does	19:37
Wargasm	k	19:37
bishopz	funniest moment of my day	19:38
bishopz	my little cousin gets on my laptop	19:38
bishopz	and goes	19:38
bishopz	WTF IS THIS SHIT	19:38
bishopz	he 13	19:38
Wargasm	lmfao	19:38
bishopz	hes*	19:38
sorteal	lol	19:38
Wargasm	first non-windows experience?	19:38
Wargasm	rofl	19:38
bishopz	mhmm	19:38
bishopz	WTF IS AIM , AOL,? WTF	19:38
bishopz	im just cracking up	19:39
Wargasm	linux de virginized	19:39
jcr	he/she saw the light! lol	19:39
bishopz	hes watching certain things	19:39
bishopz	going OHHH i like that	19:39
fosco__	bishopz, please stop that, this is a support channel	19:39
bishopz	why do i have a feeling ill be dual booting his laptop	19:39
bishopz	tonight	19:39
mediaman	xmbc looks pretty nice does it work with a remote and will it run from gnome?	19:39
fosco__	mediaman, yes	19:39
bishopz	fosco: with all due respect . i wasnt disturbing ANY suppport discussion nor was it an over drawn convo	19:40
bishopz	take it how u wanna	19:40
fosco__	!ot	19:40
ubottu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	19:40
* cuznt agrees		19:40
bishopz	-yawn	19:40
Wargasm	:P	19:40
mediaman	hmm how do i get it?	19:41
bishopz	Why hello there cuznt	19:41
mefisto__	language also, bishopz	19:41
puffs	m	19:41
mediaman	fosco__: there is a ppa available it says on there site but im unsure what that means/	19:43
fosco__	mediaman, ppa is a not official repo	19:43
fosco__	use it at your own	19:43
cuznt	they abreviate it because it is a naughty word	19:43
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mediaman	how do i use it or better yet what is the best way for me to get xbmc	19:43
gothpaw	slcr: fat32 is specified via vfat, so other than that I am unsure what you mean	19:43
cuznt	!xbmc	19:44
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about xbmc	19:44
mefisto__	!info xbmc	19:44
ubottu	Package xbmc does not exist in intrepid	19:44
mediaman	fosco__: u said you use it right? how did you install it?	19:45
cuznt	what is xbmc mediaman?	19:45
silentstri	ok, so about installin ndiswrapper	19:45
mediaman	it is a media center fosco told me about	19:45
bishopz	Still messin with the wrapper?	19:45
Wargasm	someone help this guy install ndiswrapper	19:45
Wargasm	haha	19:45
bishopz	lol	19:46
silentstri	><	19:46
Wargasm	ever find software sources?	19:46
silentstri	meh schools out, shall return	19:46
Wargasm	nvm lmao	19:46
bishopz	doh	19:47
bishopz	I think i might instal a 3dwrapper	19:47
fosco__	mediaman, i did it following xbmc webpage instructions	19:47
bishopz	any suggestions?	19:47
mediaman	fosco__ which intailed installing the ppa?	19:48
fosco__	yes	19:49
alex_	dolphin take a decision, when he is running, I can't seeanything else ....	19:59
alex_	it' s onfuulscreen mode,without bar and I can't do anything	19:59
alex_	how can be...	19:59
alex_	someone can help me please ?	20:00
bishopz	anyone know if ubuntu has a google earth comparible?	20:00
cuznt	!ask	20:00
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	20:00
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Wargasm	try holding down alt and dragging, alex_	20:00
alex_	doesn't works ...	20:01
* rgl salutes the gang		20:02
alex_	it's unbeliavable ....	20:02
bishopz	rgl: hello there	20:02
alex_	where is the profile file of dolphins !?!someone knows ?	20:03
mefisto__	alex_: try alt-F3, then advanced menu, and turn off fullscreen	20:04
ct529	:( .... I cannot have ktts work properly on my laptop	20:08
alex_	my connection was down ....	20:09
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=== ROSHA is now known as RoozbehOnline
alex_	so what should I do inorder to fixtheproblem with dolphin ?	20:11
ct529	lex_: what problem?	20:11
mefisto__	alex_: try alt-F3, then advanced menu, and turn off fullscreen	20:12
Kiberlynx	hi	20:12
alex_	when I open it , is a kind of full screen mode .....	20:12
J_A_X	if I were to try to find out which xserver session name I'm currently on, how would I do it?	20:12
alex_	I try Alt-F3 but doesn't do anything	20:13
Kiberlynx	where I've installed a few programs with wine in a user, now I want to move those programs to another users wine, which is no problem, except for the kickoff icons which I don't know how to copy, how do I do it?	20:14
mefisto__	alex_: is the dolphin window in the panel?	20:14
alex_	which panel do you mean?	20:14
mefisto__	alex_: the panel that shows the windows you have open	20:15
Kiberlynx	I've installed a few programs with wine in a user, now I want to move those programs to another users wine, which is no problem, except for the kickoff icons which I don't know how to copy, how do I do it?	20:15
ct529	what is alt + f3 supposed to do???? it does maximise	20:15
alex_	actually not,it's covered by dolphin	20:15
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mefisto__	alex_: any other windows open? alt-tab?	20:16
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Kiberlynx	alex_ has quit	20:16
mefisto__	ct529: alt-F3 does the same as right-click the titlebar of a window	20:17
ct529	mefisto__: thanks	20:18
=== Guest80072 is now known as peter__
ct529	mefisto__: do you know anything about ktts?	20:18
mefisto__	ct529: no. what is it?	20:19
ct529	mefisto__: text-to-speach in kde .... and in kubuntu .... :)	20:19
ct529	!ktts	20:19
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ktts	20:19
Kiberlynx	where's the k-menu xml file?	20:19
ct529	!kttsd	20:19
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kttsd	20:19
ct529	ubottu is useless	20:19
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about is useless	20:19
alex_	I'm back..	20:19
alex_	shit...., I push somethingwrong..:)	20:20
jussi01	!ohmy \| alex_	20:20
ubottu	alex_: Please watch your language, attitude, and topic to help keep this channel friendly and helpful. Remember, there are kids here!	20:20
jussi01	ct529: it would help if you knew how to address her! respect the bot!	20:21
jussi01	!info kttsd	20:21
ubottu	kttsd (source: kdeaccessibility): a Text-to-Speech system for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 (intrepid), package size 1613 kB, installed size 3240 kB	20:21
alex_	ok sorry ....	20:22
alex_	but I'm a bit angry for that problem , I just finished to install one hour ago ....	20:22
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mefisto__	jussi01: it's a her?	20:22
jussi01	!gender > mefisto__	20:23
ubottu	mefisto__, please see my private message	20:23
alex_	can I use some other file manager as a default filemanager ...., I really like dolphin but it's unusable in this way ....	20:24
sorteal	you can switch to konqueror	20:24
ct529	jussi01: well, it is rather a $%&@ useless bot .... half of the time just requests the ! command	20:25
jussi01	alex_: system settings, default apps, file manager	20:25
jussi01	ct529: careful. constructive critiscm only please.	20:25
mefisto__	alex_: you're in konversation now?	20:26
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ct529	jussi01: it is very constructive actually .... if MORE people were allowed to program the bot, it would probably have more factoids	20:26
=== zo is now known as zooli
Reformer81	I just installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop. Now, when I rebooted, the startup halts with errors that fsck could not check /dev/sdb6 (which is my /home/ partition). I need to press Ctrl-D to continue booting. Also, when logging into Gnome, now the "User Switcher" applet crashes immediately. What happened and how do I fix this?	20:27
alex_	.......ok , likely I fix it right now....	20:27
alex_	likely the dock bar remained on the foreground , so from there , just right click , advaced and I swithed off fullscreen mode	20:27
alex_	there is a way to disable full screen mode for dolphin ?	20:27
ct529	are you sure you do not have aspecial configuration for the dolphine window?	20:27
jussi01	ct529: feel free to join #ubuntu-bots if you care to discus it.	20:27
alex_	yeah , I'm pretty sure ....	20:28
alex_	anyway now it works....	20:28
mefisto__	alex_: any window can go fullscreen, not just dolphin	20:29
tabla	hi ppl	20:29
alex_	ok , I got it , so I have just to be very carefull with that .....	20:29
tabla	i have huge error with sound i dont have any im using creative lab soundcard there is 1 unofficila driver installed it but nothing happends so pls can somone help me how to install alsamixer or smthn like that	20:29
ct529	alos, you can configure the initial window for any application	20:30
alex_	and it's quite funny m because I didn't switch never to full screen ...	20:30
th1	Can anyone help with this: I upgraded Kubuntu from 7.10 via 8.04 to 8.10 and now Firefox doesn't have any file associations and even "Open containing directory" doesn't work, how can I fix this?	20:31
alex_	now another think I'd like to do is to automount my partition on startup ...	20:31
alex_	how should I do it .... ?	20:31
HappySmileMan	alex_: /etc/fstab	20:32
mefisto__	Reformer81: sounds like your disk needs checking with fsck	20:32
HappySmileMan	Not sure exactly how to do it, haven't done it in a while, but google for guides	20:32
alex_	yeah I know the file but ....	20:32
HappySmileMan	Basically you just enter partition and fs-type and stuff	20:32
alex_	ok , so I'll search on google ..:)	20:33
tabla	i have huge error with sound i dont have any im using creative lab soundcard there is 1 unofficila driver installed it but nothing happends so pls can somone help me how to install alsamixer or smthn like that	20:33
fabio_	oi	20:34
maco	tabla: alsamixer is always installed. just run it. but as to the fact that you're using creative, first shudder, second...i recommend asking in #ubuntu-audio-help in a few hours	20:34
HappySmileMan	Not sure if there's a graphical way, there probably is, but I've only ever done it on gentoo	20:35
maco	(not right now, as i dont think dtchen is in right now, and i dont know anything about creative)	20:35
mefisto__	tabla: do you need this unofficial driver for your card?	20:36
bishops	silly questioncan someone walk me thru getting screenlets running?	20:36
tabla	mefisto__: im really new on this linux stuff i dont know even where to begin	20:37
tabla	mefisto__: all i have readed has fail	20:37
tabla	mefisto__: in terminal if i type alsamixer it gives me No mixer elems found	20:38
tabla	so where ican turn it or or smthn if its installed	20:38
mefisto__	tabla: type: cat /proc/asound/modules	20:38
tabla	nothing	20:39
mefisto__	tabla: lshw -C multimedia	20:39
tabla	yeah	20:39
kavurt	how to see what version of kubuntu I'm using?	20:40
tabla	may i pm	20:40
mefisto__	tabla: ok can you pastebin that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/	20:40
mefisto__	tabla: or pm if you prefer	20:40
maco	tabla: download http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and save it to your desktop. "cd ~/Desktop ; bash alsa-info.sh" it'll give you a link. post the link here	20:44
DaddyLonglegs	How can I completely disable the system beep?	20:45
tabla	maco http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=74f45bc39a13738d3c93d07b2b58fdceb1d3daaa	20:52
QWonder	how do i enable all the fancy graphics stuff where the windows have physics and all that in 8.10?	20:53
maco	tabla: blergh. yeah...mixers'll be no help. what driver did you try to install? can you find the howto?	20:54
tabla	http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=209&CatName=X-Fi&subCatID=208&subCatName=X-Fi&prodID=17927&prodName=PCI+Express+X-Fi+Titanium	20:54
tabla	there was just 2 commands make and make install	20:55
tabla	nothing more	20:55
drostie	QWonder: there's some stuff (for me in KDE 4.2) in K > System Settings > S	20:55
drostie	erm.	20:55
drostie	K > System Settings > Desktop	20:55
das	hi	20:56
QWonder	hmm, i'm actually just trying to check it out from the live cd of 8.10	20:56
drostie	Get the Jaunty live cd if you want to see KDE 4.2.	20:56
tabla	maco: you saw any errors or smthn?	20:59
maco	tabla: can you try a jaunty live cd?	21:00
tabla	hmmz	21:00
tabla	i have to burn it?	21:00
tabla	never used one	21:00
tabla	:)	21:00
maco	tabla: i see stuff online about that card not being supported as of july but that support was expected to come soonish. knowing when freeze happens in ubuntu, its possible that current versions of alsa have support for it, but youd have to try a jaunty live cd	21:01
das	hi to everyone! it's my first irc start..	21:01
maco	tabla: yes, you can get the daily image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ and burn it with the "burn image" option in brasero.	21:01
drostie	Python gives me headaches. ;_; ... I seem to have just discovered that in Python, all integer arithmetic is arbitrary-precision and you need to write your own casting.	21:02
mossgix	hi there	21:02
drostie	!hi \| das	21:02
ubottu	das: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	21:02
mossgix	is there someone that have played NWN2 on kubuntu?	21:02
tabla	maco jaunty-desktop-i386.iso 23-Feb-2009 08:20 693M Desktop CD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download)	21:02
tabla	this right?	21:02
maco	tabla: yep	21:03
drostie	mossgix: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4118	21:03
tabla	maco k download takes like 1 mins burning other 4 so what i do with id into pc and trying to update on that?	21:03
maco	tabla: that's jaunty as of today. if that works, you can just install a newer version of alsa while you wait for jaunty to release in april. though i dont actually remember how to compile new alsa modules, so you'll probably have to ask someone else for help with that	21:04
mossgix	drostie i've already seen that page, but i have some question about nvidia drivers	21:04
maco	tabla: dont update to it because it's a development release and you're a beginner. this is just for testing purposes	21:04
mossgix	i'm using drivers by ubuntu repos, but when i start NWN it says that i havn't 3d acceleration	21:05
maco	tabla: if it works in there, its possible to install the parts you need. if it doesn't then :(	21:05
tabla	maco so you mean i have run this live cd as new ubuntu after reboot right but just as testing right?	21:05
drostie	mossgix: well, then you should have asked about getting nvidia drivers working ^_^;; -- umm, nvidia is still on proprietary drivers, but some people have reported problems with them. I'm on a laptop, so I don't know much more. sorry.	21:06
maco	tabla: yes, just as testing	21:06
tabla	k	21:06
tabla	i try that one	21:06
tabla	thnks for help	21:06
mossgix	yep... i'm trying to use only free software but man, gaming is so fucking tight with winz	21:07
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ikonia	mossgix: control your language please	21:07
Rioting_pacifist	loads of my binaries are segfaulting, i think its due to prelink, how can i comfirm/check this	21:07
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: what makes you think it's pre-linking ?	21:07
Rioting_pacifist	ikonia: well last night i updated prelink and since then many of my programs spit out seg faults	21:08
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: how did you update prelinking ?	21:08
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: pre-linking is something that happens, not a package	21:09
Rioting_pacifist	ikonia: first prelink -a then prelink -au to undo, no its definatly a package	21:09
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: I meant as a task	21:10
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: why did you re-do prelinking ?	21:10
rgreening	Riddell: ping	21:10
Rioting_pacifist	ikonia: because debsums was complaining about it alot	21:10
rgreening	Riddell: qtjambi in my ppa. Just testing it out, and noticed that the demos dont launch if libqtjambi-dev is not installed. It's looking for the libqtjambi.so and fails if not present.	21:11
Rioting_pacifist	e.g "/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.0.12: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking"	21:11
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ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: why would pre-linking change a package dependency	21:13
rgreening	Riddell: I was wondering if adding a dep on -dev to the demos was appropriate, or should the .so's move around? If I add a dep, then this forces qt4-x11-dev and qt designer to be also installed	21:13
gothpaw	Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive. See here for details --> http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html	21:14
rgreening	wrng chan... oops	21:14
Rioting_pacifist	ikonia: i figured it meant since the last time id prelinked the package had been updated, so i ran prelink again, im just running debsums now then ill try sudo prelink -u -a and see if that helps	21:15
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: ahhh	21:15
drostie	Rioting_pacifist: that's what it sounds like to me, too.	21:15
drostie	Rioting_pacifist: why isn't updating prelink a cron job on your system?	21:16
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[TCK]	jockey-kde's activate button won't work when trying to install fglrx, anyone know if this is anticipated behaviour?	21:16
Rioting_pacifist	drostie: dunno i figured it would do it mannually on updates	21:17
Rioting_pacifist	gothpaw: what happens if you try sudo mount -t auto	21:17
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: what sort of stuff is segfaulting ?	21:18
Rioting_pacifist	ikonia: everything firefox, kdesktop, kalarm, (ive only found konversation, konsole & konqeror working)	21:19
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topsu	is there any goos video player for kubuntu	21:20
Rioting_pacifist	the errors are "general protection rip:7fffea6f8a1a rsp:7ffff290ab70 error:0" and "[ 3342.822158] kalarm[17634]: segfault at 7f33ac5a800c rip 7f3332a71a1a rsp 7fff3ac83ef0 error 4"	21:20
ikonia	Rioting_pacifist: if you asked me without saying the problems you're having I'd say "no way" but the problems your having certainly sounds like it has effected it	21:20
[TCK]	topsu: vlc	21:20
topsu	how to install?	21:20
[TCK]	should be able to do it through adept, just search for vlc	21:20
topsu	ok	21:21
[TCK]	or sudo apt-get install vlc	21:21
drostie	gothpaw: that page recommends that you do a dmesg \| tail. What does that tell you, if anything?	21:21
gothpaw	Rioting_pacifist: when I try -t auto I am told to specify the filesystem	21:22
gothpaw	drostie: not sure how to do that exactly, however I have looked in the dmesg log file and found nothing useful	21:23
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Guest3166	sup	21:24
topsu	does anyone have Warhammer online on kubuntu?	21:24
Rioting_pacifist	gothpaw: what happens if you try to mount /dev/sdd instead of sdd1? i doubt it will work but i vaugly recall it working on a flash drive at some point	21:25
Silentstri	?	21:26
[TCK]	I figure it would mount all partitions on sdd, but no idea	21:26
drostie	gothpaw: hm. well, type [man fsck.vfat] into a console (minus the square brackets, of course) to read about how to do an integrity check on a FAT32 drive.	21:26
Rioting_pacifist	http://rafb.net/p/HXBGCI33.html < a list of my failed debsums (probably not due to prelink, but generally my system had hdd problems) how can i convert that into a list of things to reinstall?	21:26
[TCK]	man, jockey-kde searching endlessly for drivers, there must be a better way!	21:27
gothpaw	drostie: I've done a fsck.vfat last night when someone else was helping	21:27
gothpaw	Rioting_pacifist: /dev/sdd doesn't work in this case	21:27
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Silentstri	hey everyone	21:28
drostie	gothpaw: geez. I know that my 80GB IPOD is vfat and works okay, so the problem probably isn't drive size on vfat drives. Is there a bunch of data on this drive?	21:28
Silentstri	still tryin to get ndiswrapper on 6.06 XD	21:28
Silentstri	any ideas anyone?	21:29
drostie	("a bunch" meaning "near or more than 50% of the drive space," I suppose, if we're going to be technical.)	21:29
gothpaw	drotsie: see here for the fsck.vfat --> http://rafb.net/p/3LmnAO59.html	21:29
gothpaw	drostie: see here for the fsck.vfat --> http://rafb.net/p/3LmnAO59.html	21:30
gothpaw	drostie: there is a ton of data on this drive that I cannot loose (Vital business info, and sadly all other backups are useless so this is the last remaining backup)	21:31
Silentstri	still tryin to get ndiswrapper on 6.06 XD	21:32
Silentstri	any ideas anyone?	21:32
Silentstri	im nub	21:32
gothpaw	drostie: a bunch as in about 180GB of data needs to be saved	21:34
gothpaw	drostie: so I guess that is about 85% of the drive, roughly (it's a 250GB External USB Drive)	21:34
gothpaw	forgive my math if 85% is wrong.... my math is not so good	21:35
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drostie	Google says 180 / 250 = 72% ^_^	21:36
yowshi1	how do i get the panel to let me put the windows in the order i wnt instead of alphabetically?	21:36
gothpaw	drostie: :) I was close at least, heh	21:37
gothpaw	yowshil: that I imagine would be a #KDE question, assuming you're using KED	21:37
gothpaw	KED-KDE	21:38
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Silentstri	anyone can help me? I dunno how to install ndiswrapper .<	21:40
Silentstri	><	21:40
mefisto__	Silentstri: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common	21:40
Silentstri	doesnt work	21:41
Silentstri	i tried it, somone else gave me those instructions	21:41
Silentstri	i dled ndis from the site	21:41
Silentstri	and put it in my main file.... home folder thingie	21:42
gothpaw	Silentstri: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=461587	21:42
Silentstri	ty	21:42
Silentstri	it says it cant find the Ndiswrapper common	21:43
Silentstri	i used command again	21:43
Silentstri	should I replace Ndiswrapper-common with the name of the file?	21:43
gothpaw	Silentstri: another link to help --> http://swik.net/NdisWrapper+Kubuntu	21:45
Silentstri	oh ty gothpaw	21:45
Silentstri	i have a question for mefisto though	21:46
Silentstri	after it says	21:46
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Tabla_	maco with this live cd	21:47
Tabla_	wav starts to play but still no sound	21:47
maco	Tabla_: any sound?	21:47
maco	:(	21:47
Tabla_	but now there is some master mixer or smthn like that	21:47
Tabla_	with older ubuntu there wasent any	21:47
maco	ok...?	21:47
maco	so can you run the alsa-info.sh thing again?	21:48
Silentstri	ok, I used the comman sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common, put my pass in and it said "reading package lists... Done, Building dependency tree... Done, E: Couldn't find the package ndiswrapper-common"	21:48
Tabla_	i try to find it	21:48
Silentstri	is there a easy fix for this	21:48
Tabla_	aa i mean give me link again pls	21:48
maco	Tabla_: http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh	21:49
Tabla_	what was the command maco sudo &bash alsa/info.sh_	21:51
Tabla_	shit different keyboard now	21:51
jussi01	!language \| Tabla_	21:51
ubottu	Tabla_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	21:51
Silentstri	ok, I used the comman sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common, put my pass in and it said "reading package lists... Done, Building dependency tree... Done, E: Couldn't find the package ndiswrapper-common"	21:51
Silentstri	is there a easy fix for this	21:51
maco	Tabla_: save it to your desktop, then "cd ~/Desktop ; bash alsa-info.sh"	21:51
Tabla_	http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4255026ea5ae1bb733d4cb6d55cb5202370a4f8e	21:52
gothpaw	!ndiswrapper	21:52
ubottu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	21:52
maco	Silentstri: run apt-get update first	21:52
maco	Silentstri: it seems not to know how to find what you're looking for, so updating the package list should help	21:52
Silentstri	do I need interwebs for that?	21:53
Silentstri	internet*	21:53
Silentstri	lol	21:53
gothpaw	yes, you do	21:53
maco	Silentstri: yeah....	21:53
maco	Silentstri: where were you intending to install from...?	21:53
drostie	gothpaw: I am seeing very little headway to be made on your problem, other than to create two different partitions on the drive and start resizing the boundary between them. But since Linux is not recognizing your file systems, I think the file transfers would have to be done in Windows (assuming that Windows gets right the 200+ allocation tables scenario).	21:53
drostie	So the resizes would also have to be done in Windows, and all of the software I know that does FAT resizes under windows costs money.	21:54
gothpaw	drostie: well, that's gonna be extremely hard to do	21:54
Silentstri	from my... uh.... hardrive?	21:54
gothpaw	drostie: I don't have any windows machines	21:54
gothpaw	Silentstri: apt-get works via internet	21:55
Silentstri	><	21:55
Silentstri	so, how do i install ndiswrapper if I dont have internet? like, I have ndiswrapper in my home fil	21:55
gothpaw	Silentstri: you're gonna have to do it manually in which case I suggest those links I posted to you before	21:55
drostie	gothpaw: neither do I, but they're remarkably plentiful in my part of the world. It's not too hard to find a friend with a laptop. But I don't know the software that you'd need.	21:56
Silentstri	ok, ty	21:56
gothpaw	drostie: no-one I know runs Windows.....	21:56
drostie	How were you accessing this drive beforehand?	21:56
mefisto__	Silentstri: how are you connected now? why don't you have internet access?	21:57
gothpaw	drostie: from one of my older (now gone) Kubuntu pc's	21:57
Silentstri	i have 2 laptops ._.	21:57
Silentstri	one has windows	21:57
maco	Silentstri: do you have ndiswrapper and its dependencies? if so, put them all in one directory, cd there and do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"	21:57
maco	Silentstri: apt-get is the net-based dependency-resolving installer	21:58
drostie	gothpaw: hm. Okay, so Linux can read this filesystem, it's just not mounting for some reason or another? That's very different from what I thought the problem was ^_^;;	21:58
Silentstri	im trying to install on linux	21:58
gothpaw	drostie: well in the past yes.... but right now it can't as it can't seem to mount it	21:58
drostie	gothpaw: and just to make sure: the drive hasn't been dropped brutally down a flight of stairs or anything like that?	21:59
Silentstri	or is CD on kubutu too and I just havent figured it out ._.	21:59
gothpaw	drostie: not "yet", lol ....	21:59
drostie	gothpaw: does your /etc/fstab have entries for another drive as /dev/sdd1 that might be getting in the way?	22:00
gothpaw	drostie: nope... I wish it was that easy t hough	22:00
gothpaw	though***	22:00
drostie	yeah, as do I. ^_^;;	22:01
Silentstri	cause I have ndiswrapper + dependencies in one directory on my linux laptop, all in my home folder, but I cant use the sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common	22:01
Silentstri	cause you said apt-get was internet-based right?	22:01
gothpaw	Silentstri: see the message maco sent you on how to do it manually	22:01
Silentstri	ok ty	22:01
mefisto__	Silentstri: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=ndiswrapper	22:02
mefisto__	Silentstri: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 and ndiswrapper-common	22:02
gothpaw	Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive. See here for details --> http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html	22:02
Silentstri	put them all in one directory, cd there and do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb {this prompts questions from me, what does cd mean? like, cd..}	22:03
Silentstri	o wait	22:03
Silentstri	nvm	22:03
Silentstri	i figured it out	22:03
Silentstri	xD	22:03
gothpaw	:)	22:03
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drostie	gothpaw: does the mount call give you anything useful when you [sudo mount -v /dev/sdd1] ...?	22:06
gothpaw	drostie: I'd have to say I don't know as I am unsure of the -v option and what it does	22:08
drostie	gothpaw: [man mount] to find out that the -v option stands for "verbose" ^_^	22:08
drostie	Sometimes in various applications more v's are more verbose. for example, [aptitude moo], [aptitude -v moo], [aptitude -vv moo]	22:09
Silentstri	In the comman sudo dpkg -i .deb what do I replace with?	22:10
gothpaw	drostie: ok, the sudo mount -v /dev/sdd1 gives me the very same error as when I try to mount the drive normally	22:10
drostie	Silentstri: bash (the command line shell) automatically fills in [*.deb] with all of the files in the current directory that end with ".deb".	22:11
drostie	Silentstri: see, for example, [ls -l *.deb] to list permissions for only those files that end with the .deb extension.	22:12
drostie	gothpaw: but doesn't tell you anything new? :-(	22:12
Silentstri	so I need to find the file thats .deb.... ty	22:12
Hammer	good evening	22:13
mefisto__	gothpaw: you could try smartctl -a /dev/sdd1 to check for hardware problems	22:13
gothpaw	drostie: --> http://rafb.net/p/S7lD1Y38.html	22:13
gothpaw	mefisto__: hang on, I have to install smartmontools first	22:14
mefisto__	doesn't fat32 have a partition size limit? how is it 250GB ?	22:17
drostie	gothpaw: dude, that drive has got to be in fstab or mtab. Check those files again. (If you don't specify options, it should say opts: "(null)" or so. At least, in the current version of mount in the repos.)	22:17
drostie	mefisto__: That's... complicated. Windows won't format natively about 32 GB, but the actual limit is in the terabytes. It doesn't matter, though, because this particular drive used to Just Work (tm).	22:18
drostie	s/about/above about/	22:19
gothpaw	it is in fstab as follows --> /dev/sdd1 /home/gothpaw/Extras2 vfat defaults,user 0 0	22:19
mefisto__	drostie: it worked with linux vfat?	22:19
drostie	mefisto__: yep.	22:19
drostie	gothpaw: delete that line. Maybe a "defaults" or "user" option isn't supported by vfat? I dunno.	22:20
drostie	Or comment it out by prefixing it with a hash character (#).	22:20
Hammer	I have a question regarding 8.10, specifically graphics corruption on nvidia quadro fx cards	22:20
gothpaw	drostie: those options are supported, I use them on other drives too that are Fat32	22:21
Hammer	Is anybody familiar with this?	22:21
mefisto__	gothpaw: what about just sudo mount /dev/sdd1 ?	22:22
gothpaw	mefisto__: says I have to specify the filesystem when I try to mount it any other way except -t vfat	22:23
drostie	gothpaw: still, try mounting this drive without those options. If the drive's firmware locked the drive in read-only mode, for example, maybe it would get annoyed. I'd like to see the -v output when there's no fstab entry at all.	22:24
noaXess	have a problem... sudo apt-get update shows me some "Could not resolve" problems..	22:24
noaXess	but normal internet connection works.	22:24
noaXess	a dig to security.ubuntu.com will work	22:25
noaXess	i have that only in one machine in my network... a new one..	22:26
drostie	noaXess: could you paste the [sudo apt-get update] output into http://paste.ubuntu.com (or similar) and then send the url of the pasted content to us?	22:26
noaXess	drostie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/122074/	22:27
gothpaw	drostie: without the fstab entry I get this --> mount: can't find /dev/sdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab	22:27
Hammer	on kubuntu 8.10 (new installation) on a dell precision laptop with a nvidia quadro fx 3500 graphics card every once in a while the display becomes completely corrupted.	22:27
Hammer	this does not happen under windows xp, nor 8.04, so its not a hardware isssue I believe	22:28
drostie	noaXess: and you can still [ping ch.archive.ubuntu.com] ok with this computer?	22:28
noaXess	drostie: no.. no ping..	22:28
mefisto__	gothpaw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/27689	22:29
noaXess	but dig ch.archive.ubuntu.com will get me correct results	22:29
Hammer	i suspect either the x-server or the nvidia graphics driver is to blame, but reinstalling did not seem to help	22:29
Hammer	has anyone heard of this type of problem before?	22:29
gothpaw	mefisto__: see here please --> http://rafb.net/p/43lScA97.html	22:29
StR\|Sangreal	hi	22:31
Hammer	hi	22:32
StR\|Sangreal	where can i find assistance with cairo dock;	22:32
drostie	gothpaw: I apologize, my earlier recommended code was a little bad. You want to first [sudo mkdir /media/test] and then [sudo mount -v /dev/sdd1 /media/test], specifying both the source and the destination.	22:32
drostie	If you don't specify the destination, then it looks in /etc/fstab to find that out.	22:32
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Hammer_42b	hello anybody?	22:33
drostie	!hi \| Hammer_42b	22:33
ubottu	Hammer_42b: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	22:33
Hammer_42b	thanks	22:34
StR\|Sangreal	what is your issue hammer?	22:34
Hammer_42b	I have a problem with 8.10	22:34
StR\|Sangreal	go ahead	22:34
gothpaw	drostie: here you go --> http://rafb.net/p/tZaS2i32.html	22:34
Hammer_42b	on a fresh install on a dell precision M90 with a nvidia quadro fx 3500M graphics card	22:35
drostie	noaXess: it sounds like something is going wrong with DNS in particular, rather than your internet connection in general. If you configure your connection to use OpenDNS, does the problem still happen?	22:35
Hammer_42b	my display will become completely corruped every once in a while	22:35
Hammer_42b	only a reboot helps	22:35
Hammer_42b	restarting X is not enough	22:35
Hammer_42b	however, this does not happen with win xp pro nor 8.04, so I don't think its a hardware issue	22:36
noaXess	drostie: i have a internal DNS that works an all other 10 machines.. only on this one it won't.. and if i setup /etc/resolv.conf to the dns of my provider, same problem	22:36
Hammer_42b	is suspect the nvidia driver or the x-server itself	22:36
StR\|Sangreal	hmm	22:36
mefisto__	gothpaw: here's more reading: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/251781	22:36
StR\|Sangreal	have you modified the xorg.conf file?	22:36
drostie	gothpaw: hm. So it's not auto-recognizing it as vfat. What does -v -t vfat tell you?	22:36
StR\|Sangreal	!nvidia \| Hammer:42b	22:36
ubottu	Hammer:42b: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	22:36
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: I ran nvidia-xconfig with the --no-logo option, nothing else..should be all standard	22:37
StR\|Sangreal	hmm is this the very fresh install?	22:37
drostie	noaXess: what I'm asking is, can you get it working with some external DNS? if so, then we can maybe try to figure out why the internal DNS is borked for only this one machine. If not, then we can maybe isolate the problem to DNS in general.	22:37
StR\|Sangreal	do you have enough ram and cpu? since plasma consumes much more resources	22:38
noaXess	drostie: it won't work with an external DNS.. same problem as with internal..	22:38
noaXess	drostie: strane is, that a mail command works... postfix can resolv the externam mail-address..	22:38
noaXess	strange	22:38
kaddi	!divx	22:39
ubottu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	22:39
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: the install had to be completely new, as the upgrade process from 8.04 to 8.10 borked itself	22:39
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: the machine got 2gb of ram, 2gb of swap and the gfx card has 500mb ram. its fairly beefy.	22:39
Hammer_42b	there is enough diskspace	22:39
StR\|Sangreal	you mean you have translated .04 to .10 and of course it failed, and now you have some problems with kde?	22:39
Hammer_42b	also, as long as its running (for hours on end sometimes) everything seemes fine	22:40
gothpaw	drostie: http://rafb.net/p/V06LAz96.html	22:40
StR\|Sangreal	i wouldnt recommend to use distro-upgrade... it doesnt work, especially if done with x running	22:40
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: no. after the failed upgrade, i reformatted and installed fresh from cd	22:40
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StR\|Sangreal	aha	22:40
mefisto__	gothpaw: if you do " sudo tail -f /var/log/messages " and then plug in the usb, do messages appear to recognise the disk?	22:41
Hammer_42b	its very weird	22:41
StR\|Sangreal	if it is totally fresh, i would recommend to reinstall once again	22:41
StR\|Sangreal	really	22:41
Hammer_42b	I had this problem with 7.10 and compiz installed, but by the time 8.04 rolled around everything was stable	22:42
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: how would another fresh install help?	22:42
StR\|Sangreal	it happened to me that i got network problems after a totally intact install	22:42
StR\|Sangreal	and another reinstall didnt cause the error	22:42
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: so what caused that problem? corrupt cd?	22:43
noaXess	drostie: i got it..	22:43
StR\|Sangreal	if the problem is in kde, go to tty and install ubuntu-desktop and try if it is odd too	22:43
noaXess	/etc/nsswitch.conf	22:43
asdfasdfasdf	hello	22:43
StR\|Sangreal	hmm a good point to start is to autohash the cd if it is ok	22:43
StR\|Sangreal	but my case was probably a sudden temporary disconect of some HW media since the install ran ok but the result was corrupted	22:44
drostie	noaXess: :D	22:45
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: hmm	22:45
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: if i really have to reinstall i will probably wait till 9.04 comes around	22:45
noaXess	drostie: i configured today a samba with domain controller enabled and follow the howto on samba.org .. and one of them was configuring /etc/nsswitch.conf to hosts: files wins	22:45
noaXess	and then no DNS works ;)	22:46
StR\|Sangreal	QUESTION: pls what do i need to integrate GoogleGadgets to plasma?	22:46
StR\|Sangreal	Hammer_42b > i will wait till Karmic :)	22:46
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: no idea :)	22:46
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: still this is pretty annoying...also that means that i will not be able to use kubuntu as my primary system for a least another 6 months	22:47
StR\|Sangreal	you may reinstall to hardy heron	22:48
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: though 8.04 with kde3 was stable on my machine and worked great	22:48
StR\|Sangreal	i understand you i thought the same since i use radeon mobility X1450, an unsupported notebook vga	22:49
StR\|Sangreal	and fortunately 2 weeks ago a semicompatible driver appeared so i could run plasma again	22:49
gothpaw	mefisto__: please see here for 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages' --> http://rafb.net/p/sj5lwh22.html	22:49
drostie	gothpaw: you've officially stumped me. I wouldn't know what to do more without reading Microsoft's FAT32 spec and carefully comparing it to [sudo xxd /dev/sdd \| more] until I found out what the heck's going on with the tables themselves. It sounds like maybe there was a tiny bit of corruption somewhere in one of them, though, and it's making fsck and mount reject the drive. :-/	22:50
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: neither the new xerver nor kde4 should have been included in 8.10	22:50
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: ahh well....it also seems to be a pretty rare problem, since i could not find anything in any other newsgroup. but i believe my specific nvidia card is not very common	22:51
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: i think dell only sells it in its precision series, which is not mainstream	22:52
Hammer_42b	strsangreal: anyway, thanks for your help	22:52
Hammer_42b	bye	22:53
mefisto__	gothpaw: does it mount in windows?	22:53
StR\|Sangreal	i bought of first asus books with centrino duo... then they decided that the card isnt suitable	22:53
drostie	mefisto__: gothpaw has no windows. no windows of judgment. no windows at all.	22:53
gothpaw	mefisto__: don't have a windows machine, and I don't know anyone whom actually uses windows	22:53
mefisto__	gothpaw: public library? internet cafe?	22:54
drostie	gothpaw: that /var/log/messages section is interesting though; I'd be curious to find out what's trying to access sector 488407970.	22:54
mefisto__	gothpaw: maybe try booting livecd and see if it mounts	22:54
gothpaw	mefisto__: where I live, they don't allow you to plug in "foreign" hardware (that's what they call it anyways)	22:55
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gothpaw	mefisto__: that I could try, I do have a LiveDVD of 8.10 and 7.10	22:57
mefisto__	gothpaw: I'm wondering if you could somehow shrink the partition just a little, maybe it would mount	22:57
mefisto__	gothpaw: that might be risky for data though, of course	22:58
gothpaw	mefisto__: then I can't do it.... as the data on here is vital data	22:59
drostie	and I have no clue how well gparted resizes vfat. But you might be able to get more info by using vfat on a USB key with nothing important on it.	22:59
gothpaw	mefisto__: I'm gonna try the LiveDVD's and see what I get there, I will return as it's this system I am using drostie	23:00
gothpaw	be back shortly	23:00
drostie	rogers.com ... gothpaw is apparently canadian.	23:02
drostie	I wasn't aware that Windows was so hard to find in canada ^_^	23:02
Wargasm	how much do you want to bet the drive is broken?	23:02
Wargasm	i'll put down $9001 internet dollars	23:03
drostie	Wargasm: I'd bet against the drive being broken, I think. It's seriously messed up in its partition table, but the logs suggest that the kernel is getting something and is trying to work with it.	23:03
Wargasm	well, i agree with that.	23:04
Wargasm	but still, "broken"	23:04
Wargasm	corrupted	23:04
Wargasm	quick reformat it and run data recovery program on it	23:05
torkiano	vote for improving kubuntu browser: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18204/	23:05
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mefisto__	drostie: I think you're right about partition tables. probably got disconnected during a write or something	23:06
Wargasm	yep	23:07
Wargasm	because he's been trying to fix it for several hours now	23:07
Wargasm	and nothing has helped	23:07
mefisto__	drostie: sudo fdisk -s /dev/sdd1 would be interesting to see if the size reported is what /var/log/messages reported	23:07
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ctw	Hi! Does anyone here know a good (preferably free and kubuntu compatible) program that lets you build graphs with weighted edges using a GUI? I tried JGraph, but it doesn't seem to allow weighing the edges.	23:11
drostie	mefisto__: his fdisk -l output was available here: http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html	23:13
drostie	mefisto__: there's a really interesting claim in his /var/log/messages though: "Feb 23 15:47:44 ShadowWalker kernel: [247297.580251] sdd: p1 exceeds device capacit"	23:15
amgarchIn9	hi, after upgrade to 4.2 my laptop ignores the "do nothing on lid close" setting in power management. What could it be? This is ubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2 from intrepid-backports	23:16
mefisto__	drostie: and that series of "attempt to access beyond end of device"	23:16
drostie	mefisto__: well, that just tells me that the machine thinks there's something interesting at #488397168. The only good that does for me is to maybe search the entire device in binary for that number written in little- or big-endian bytes.	23:18
drostie	mefisto__: but if /dev/sdd1 is really bigger than /dev/sdd, then the problem is maybe just in the MBR, which is an easy place to poke around.	23:19
drostie	amgarchIn9: is ths setting turned off for all of the available profiles, or just for the first one?	23:22
gothpaw	mefisto__: sadly I got the exact same thing when trying to use a LiveDVD (both 7.10 && 8.10)	23:24
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sant	hi all :)	23:25
drostie	gothpaw: it would be really interesting to see [sudo xxd -l 512 /dev/sdd], which will print out, in hex, the master boot record of your drive. ^_^	23:25
amgarchIn9	drostie: oh, they seem to not differentiate any more. There is a section for "Mains powered", a section for "Battary powered", and a separate seciton for "When Laptop Lid Closed"	23:25
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gothpaw	drostie: well I could pastebin it if you desire	23:26
sant	i can formule a question?	23:26
drostie	amgarchIn9: I'm also running KDE 4.2, and it's still an option for me. I dunno. YMMV.	23:26
drostie	gothpaw: that'd be the idea ^_^	23:27
drostie	!question \| sant	23:27
ubottu	sant: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	23:27
sant	anyone have webcam messenger plus on ubuntu 8.10 corrected configured?	23:27
sant	soz for my english :D	23:27
drostie	can't help with that ^_^	23:28
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gothpaw	drostie: --> http://rafb.net/p/AeBR7r14.html	23:29
DaddyLonglegs	Can anybody help me please? I can't find the menu from which I could choose to hide icons in kubuntu 8.10 tray.	23:29
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bishopz	!ot	23:31
ubottu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	23:31
amgarchIn9	drostie: are we talking about the same config? Here is the window: http://imagebin.ca/view/hcKE5L.html	23:31
bishopz	Anyone got any decent eyecandy type mods for ubuntu?	23:31
gothpaw	DaddyLonglegs: that would be a #KDE issue, try there	23:32
bishopz	!ot	23:33
bishopz	!ot	23:34
bishopz	wtf	23:34
DaddyLonglegs	gothpaw: In OpenSUSE I can right click on tray and hide icons, but in kubuntu 8.10 I can't find it. I think it's not a KDE issue.	23:34
bishopz	#kubuntu	23:34
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: right-click system tray (it's a bit tricky to do - try the very top few pixels above the icons) and system tray settings	23:34
bishopz	!ot	23:35
bishopz	!info KDE	23:35
ubottu	Package KDE does not exist in intrepid	23:35
bishopz	;/	23:35
bishopz	!ot	23:35
ubottu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	23:35
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: do you have kde 4.2 ?	23:35
DaddyLonglegs	mefisto__: I think it is 4.1, but I'm not sure.	23:36
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: konqueror help menu, about kde	23:36
DaddyLonglegs	mefisto__: What I get is just "panel settings". No way can I get "tray settings" :(	23:37
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: not sure if it works in 4.1, but it does in 4.2 here	23:37
DaddyLonglegs	Aw. It says 4.1.4	23:37
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: right-click just above the kmix speaker icon is easiest for me	23:38
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: as high up as you can without leaving the panel	23:38
drostie	amgarchIn9: try K > System Settings > Advanced > Power Management	23:39
DaddyLonglegs	mefisto__: I tried everywhere but it's just giving me "panel settings"	23:39
DaddyLonglegs	mefisto__: Isn't there any file which I can edit in order to set them to be hidden, or any commands which launch the same window from konsole?	23:40
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: seems like it's a 4.2 thing: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/ (see under heading "Desktop Improves User Experience")	23:41
drostie	mefisto__: (and gothpaw:) the 488397168 in the /var/log/messages is 1D 1C 59 70, the MBR says that /dev/sdd1 has length 1D 1C 82 28	23:42
bishopz	Can i ask a stupid question, really fast?	23:42
DaddyLonglegs	mefisto__: Aw! Thanks man!	23:42
drostie	the rest of the MBR looks well-formed.	23:42
bishopz	When i download a theme, i dont unzip it i just move it into home/themes right?	23:42
amgarchIn9	drostie: do you have powerdevil installed?	23:43
DaddyLonglegs	mefisto__: If I want to upgrade to 4.2, should I do it manually? Isn't it gonna ruin anything?	23:43
gothpaw	drostie: unfortunately I have no idea what that means, sorry	23:44
amgarchIn9	DaddyLonglegs: with intrepid-backports it is enough to "aptitude full-upgrade"	23:44
drostie	amgarchIn9: possibly.	23:44
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: probably won't ruin anything, but might not be "graceful". lots of people get errors when packages try to overwrite existing files	23:44
bishopz	ok cool thanks for the help	23:45
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: the solution is to remove the old package, install the new one, then continue the upgrade	23:45
amgarchIn9	drostie: thanks! your way it does work	23:46
DaddyLonglegs	Seems a bit risky. I prefer to do that after my project deadline :-)	23:47
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: if you don't want to risk enabling all the backports, you can add the ppa repo for 4.2 so you just get those 4.2 packages. but probably not a bad idea to get your work done first either way	23:49
DaddyLonglegs	mefisto__: Awesome. Thanks for help :-)	23:51
mefisto__	DaddyLonglegs: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2	23:51
drostie	gothpaw: it means that your Master Boot Record is reporting that /dev/sdd1 is longer than the kernel is comfortable with in /var/log/messages.	23:56
fabio_	hi	23:56
kaddi	!hi\|fabio_	23:56
ubottu	fabio_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	23:56
gothpaw	drostie: is there some way to fix this; at least long enough to copy the data I need, then I can format it and start fresh?	23:57
mefisto__	drostie: so you mean editing the length to be 1D 1C 59 70 would make it consistent and therefore mountable?	23:57
fabio_	ao que parece não ha muitos brasileiros aqui	23:57
kaddi	!br	23:57
ubottu	Por favor, use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	23:57
mefisto__	drostie and gothpaw: I've never used it, but there	23:58
talvik	since the last update my kde 4.2 apps (kubuntu pakages), are trying to access libs from my kde svn build. and then fail to open	23:58
mefisto__	drostie and gothpaw: I've never used it, but there's a util called testdisk that might be able to fix it. drostie?	23:58
talvik	can anyone help	23:58
khalidmian	need toknow if there is a client in kubuntu which allows voice chat	23:58
fabio_	thank you	23:59
khalidmian	like msn messeger	23:59
khalidmian	or yahoo messenger	23:59

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