[00:00] <Huntz> daskreech: so in adept click main, universe, restricted, multiverse from main server
[00:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[00:02] <Silentstri> How old is Kubuntu v 6.06 LTS?
[00:02] <DaSkreech> It came out June of 2006
[00:02] <Silentstri> oh, so it's still maitained... ty
[00:03] <DaSkreech> !dapper
[00:03] <DaSkreech> !lts
[00:03] <Silentstri> ty
[00:05] <Silentstri> how do you set afk? srry im nub
[00:06] <matisse> not important, nobody cares about
[00:06] <Silentstri> lol k ty
[00:07] <Silentstri> i started the install process... now I wait -_-"
[00:08] <matisse> How do I smooth my fonts? After installing (recommended) "msttcorefonts" and "ttf-xfree86-nonfree" nearly every font looks pixely. (Already removed those packages, didnt help)
[00:09] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: wait you are install 6.0.6 ?
[00:09] <matisse> s/every font/every displayed text
[00:09] <DaSkreech> Hmm 6.06
[00:09] <Silentstri> yees
[00:09] <Silentstri> yes*
[00:09] <GWild> matisse: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/enable-smooth-fonts-on-ubuntu-linux/
[00:09] <GWild> matisse: that will help w/ smoothing
[00:10] <Silentstri> im goin for dinner... *AFK*
[00:10] <khalidmian> i would like to install realvnc since krdc doesnt work can anyone help?
[00:10] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: why not Hardy ?
[00:10] <Silentstri> whats hardy?
[00:10] <DaSkreech> The next LTS after Dapper
[00:11] <Silentstri> kubuntu?
[00:11] <khalidmian> or do i need to install vncviewer by using sudo apt-get install vncviewer inorder to use krdc
[00:11] <DaSkreech> Dapper is supported for a few more months as desktop
[00:11] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: No Not Kubuntu but the Kubuntu team will keep patches going for it unofficially and in any case it's supported longer than dapper is even as a Non LTS
[00:12] <Silentstri> i dont have live cd, and im having problems making one
[00:12] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: how are you installing then?
[00:12] <Huntz> daskreech: anything under third party soft or updates
[00:12] <Silentstri> im gonna stick to 6.06 until i get the hang of kubuntu
[00:12] <Silentstri> i have live for 6.06
[00:12] <Silentstri> brb dinner
[00:12] <DaSkreech> Huntz: no third party. I think that recommended updates should be on
[00:12] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: Ok Fine
[00:12] <Huntz> better hurry fore it goes EOL...lol
[00:12] <DaSkreech> Enjoy dinner
[00:13] <Huntz> gonna check security also
[00:13] <DaSkreech> umm
[00:14] <DaSkreech> I'm gonna say don't bother
[00:14] <DaSkreech> Do that post update
[00:14] <khalidmian> any help/suggestions?
[00:14] <DaSkreech> Since part of the update rules is to change all the security servers
[00:14] <DaSkreech> !info krdc
[00:14] <DaSkreech> khalidmian: krdc will install all the libraries it needs
[00:14] <DaSkreech> It will suggest other libraries it can use
[00:15] <DaSkreech> If you would like to use vnc or nx by all means install them
[00:15] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: cantseem to connect to remote desktop using krdc
[00:15] <ubuntu_> Khalidmian: Remote Support activated?
[00:16] <khalidmian> how do i activate that?
[00:16] <ubuntu_> In windows under the settings of your workstation
[00:16] <khalidmian> DaSkreech: i seem to be able to connect to remote desktops using realvnc under window
[00:17] <ubuntu_> but then you need to have vnc server installed under windows
[00:17] <khalidmian> ubuntu: i am able to access remote desktops using realvnc under windows environment
[00:17] <ubuntu_> sorry, are you guys trying to access via rdp or via vnc?
[00:18] <khalidmian> ubuntu_: realvnc server are in the remote desktops already
[00:18] <ubuntu_> sorry, thought you wanted to connect via rdp...
[00:18] <khalidmian> yes i do
[00:18] <khalidmian> do i need krdc server installed in windows?
[00:18] <ubuntu_> I don't know much about vnc, sorry
[00:19] <ubuntu_> @khalidmian: not if you want to connect via vnc
[00:21] <khalidmian> what if i wish to connect via krdc?
[00:21] <Huntz> > daskreech:
[00:21] <Huntz> > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main universe restricted multiverse
[00:21] <Huntz> > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[00:21] <Huntz> > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-security universe main multiverse restricted
[00:22] <khalidmian> what do i need to install in widows remote desktops to connect via krdc
[00:22] <DaSkreech> Huntz: ok
[00:22] <ubuntu_> depends if you want to connect via rdp protocol or via vnc protocol
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> khalidmian- nothing
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> khalidmian- krdc can do RDP just fine
[00:22] <Huntz> daskreech: so now that perl command?
[00:23] <DaSkreech> sudo perl -p -i -e 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:26] <dash84> sudo apt-get girls_in_bikinis_wallpapers
[00:26] <dash84> =P
[00:26] <Huntz> > daskreech:
[00:26] <Huntz> > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main universe restricted multiverse
[00:26] <Huntz> > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe main multiverse restricted
[00:26] <Huntz> > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-security universe main multiverse restricted
[00:27] <Exilant> dash84: i remember some debianis scoffing buntu for exactly that
[00:27] <dash84> ?
[00:27] <dash84> LOL
[00:27] <Exilant> must have been some gnome wallpaper calerndar or so
[00:27] <Silentstri> im back
[00:27] <dash84> google image search / right click / set as wallpaper
[00:27] <dash84> =P
[00:28] <dash84> i cant have that though my girlfriend gets mad :[
[00:28] <dash84> so i got giraffes instead rofl
[00:28] <dash84> how does a wallpaper calendar work?
[00:28] <dash84> :/
[00:29] <Silentstri> do I need internet to install kubuntu?
[00:29] <Walzmyn> Silentstri, do you have a cd?
[00:29] <dash84> you could order the cd :/
[00:29] <Silentstri> yes
[00:29] <Wargasm> no, but you will for updates.
[00:29] <lupine> balls
[00:29] <Silentstri> so if its updating, Im done the install?
[00:29] <Walzmyn> then no, but you won't be able to update, Silentstri
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Yes
[00:29] <DaSkreech> Continue the rest of the upgrade
[00:29] <lupine> So, I've shoehorned an ext3 partition into a space about 200 blocks shorter than it should be
[00:30] <Walzmyn> Silentstri, did you use a net install disk?
[00:30] <lupine> resize2fs fails (even with -f) complaining of short reads
[00:30] <Silentstri> a wha...?
[00:30] <DaSkreech> Exilant: When Ubuntu started the calendar would change the wallpaper each month
[00:30] <Huntz> Here we go, engage...lol
[00:30] <Wargasm> Silentstri: you can install kubuntu with the cd alone, but there are updates you can only get online.
[00:30] <DaSkreech> sabdfl wanted "strong human imgery" Which most people read as porn
[00:30] <lupine> (it's a non-raid to a raid-1 setup)
[00:30] <DaSkreech> The idea was dropped after three months
[00:30] <Walzmyn> Silentstri, that's probably a no. You're proabably done with the install, just let the update run
[00:31] <lupine> suggestions? :P)
[00:31] <dash84> strong human imagery is porn
[00:31] <Silentstri> i can get internet AFTER i install an op. system
[00:31] <dash84> unless its some artsy crap
[00:31] <dash84> lol
[00:31] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: What do you mean ?
[00:31] <Wargasm> strong human imagery isn't necissarily porn, dash84
[00:31] <Huntz> hmmm, to bad I didnt know that there was know output
[00:31] <dash84> what would it be then?
[00:31] <khalidmian> how do i install a rpm/tar file?
[00:31] <Huntz> I would have been done awhile ago
[00:31] <Wargasm> like you said, it could be art.
[00:31] <Silentstri> I have a wireless antenna... the laptop im trying to install on is 7yrs old, the original wifi is shot... problem with the antenna is I need to install the driver..........
[00:32] <Wargasm> not everyone sees porn when they see the human body, some people just see beauty
[00:32] <dash84> in some circumstances, yes.
[00:32] <Huntz> can I upgrade with kde running?
[00:33] <DaSkreech> Huntz: yes
[00:33] <dash84> so the porn industry wanted a bail out
[00:33] <dash84> you guys remember that?
[00:33] <dash84> lol
[00:33] <Silentstri> ^^
[00:33] <Wargasm> i think thats awesome
[00:33] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: What chipset?
[00:33] <Silentstri> chipwhat?
[00:33] <DaSkreech> :-)
[00:34] <Silentstri> i r nub XD
[00:34] <dash84> lol
[00:34] <dash84> chipset dood
[00:34] <bishopz> DaSkreesh: whats up :)
[00:34] <bishopz> ch*
[00:34] <bishopz> wow -just woke up
[00:34] <Silentstri> chipset = intel?
[00:34] <Wargasm> what chipset does your mobo have
[00:34] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: Who makes the wifi?
[00:34] <DaSkreech> hi bishopz
[00:34] <Silentstri> oh.... uhm, the external one?
[00:35] <Wargasm> like 965p or whatever
[00:35] <bishopz> almost got my laptop running correct !
[00:35] <bishopz> ;x
[00:35] <Silentstri> idk
[00:35] <dash84> running what os
[00:35] <bishopz> extrnal works great no bugs no lags in the movies
[00:35] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: The external one is the one you need working?
[00:35] <Silentstri> ya, but I need an OS to install the driver :/
[00:36] <bishopz> ....
[00:36] <Wargasm> Silentstri: do you know what brand/model the antenna is?
[00:36] <Silentstri> linksys is the external one
[00:36] <bishopz> wrong button
[00:36] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: Good observation! And you said U r nub!!
[00:36] <Wargasm> do you want to get that one working? or the interal one?
[00:36] <Silentstri> idk what the internal one is, but its shot
[00:37] <Silentstri> funny -_-
[00:37] <Wargasm> oh
[00:37] <Wargasm> Silentstri: you should be able to figure that out somehow. But the external one will be easy.
[00:37] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: So why were you asking if you needed to install kubuntu ?
[00:37] <Silentstri> huh?
[00:37] <Silentstri> WOOT
[00:37] <Silentstri> the install worked this time
[00:37] <Silentstri> 3rd times the charm
[00:38] <Silentstri> or ..... 5th time ._.
[00:38] <bishopz> lol
[00:38] <bishopz> its tricky like that sometimes
[00:38] <Wargasm> usually if it's popular hardware, the driver will be automatically detected.
[00:38] <dash84> i usually quit by the second try
[00:38] <dash84> then i bbq da cpu
[00:38] <bishopz> lolol
[00:38] <Silentstri> im restarting, so we're about to find out
[00:38] <Exilant> DaSkreech: thanks for clearing that up for me, thanks. used ubuntu the first time with hoary, so missed out on the first three months
[00:38] <Wargasm> alright, good luck
[00:38] <bishopz> gl
[00:39] <bishopz> im on ubuntu right now
[00:39] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[00:39] <lupine> ah, inelegant solution time
[00:39] <bishopz> contrast: hi
[00:39] <dash84> would you guys say ubuntu is the best linux os
[00:39] <bishopz> i like it so far, its very user friendly, but user friendly for people who are used to complexity
[00:40] <bishopz> isnt allll that friendly
[00:40] <DaSkreech> dash84: You mean best distro
[00:40] <DaSkreech> !best
[00:40] <dash84> linux os
[00:40] <dash84> distro
[00:40] <dash84> bleh
[00:41] <dash84> sounds the same to me
[00:41] <dash84> =P
[00:41] <Silentstri> AND THE VERDICT IS...........................................
[00:41] <dash84> ive been wanting to try out slackware
[00:41] <dash84> last time i used that was version 7
[00:41] <contrast> anyone have an idea why Xorg would be using 20-30% cpu?
[00:41] <DaSkreech> dash84: Seriously if you like it it's the best for you
[00:41] <richie> how do i view the OS i ran with vmware server?
[00:42] <dash84> it depends man
[00:42] <Silentstri> I officially have my linux comp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:42] <lupine> richie: mount disc image, browse
[00:42] <lupine> generally speaking
[00:42] <Silentstri> srry for spamming random junk
[00:42] <bishopz> lol congrats silentstri
[00:42] <richie> lupine: huh? disk image? i wanna view the gui?
[00:43] <lupine> oh, right. not a clue
[00:43] <lupine> with the workstation thingummy?
[00:44] <Silentstri> ty bishopz
[00:44] <DaSkreech> welcome to Linux and kubuntu Silentstri
[00:44] <Silentstri> ty ^^
[00:44] <bishopz> yw
[00:44] <Silentstri> i feel 0.1% less nubby XD
[00:44] <bishopz> lolol
[00:44] <DaSkreech> dash84: Yes it does. On if you like it :)
[00:44] <Huntz> lol
[00:44] <Silentstri> wow this made my old comp run fast
[00:44] <Huntz> eh bishopz did you find themes to dl
[00:45] <bishopz> linux = 100x's smaller than windows
[00:45] <bishopz> nah nothing worth it yet
[00:45] <bishopz> u got anything?
[00:45] <Huntz> negative
[00:45] <bishopz> grr
[00:45] <contrast> what kinda themes you looking for, bishopz?
[00:45] <Silentstri> awesome... so whats the best IRC client for kubuntu?
[00:45] <bishopz> tech stuff, clean
[00:45] <lupine> Silentstri: irssi+screen, of course
[00:45] <lupine> possible bitlbee
[00:45] <Silentstri> kk ty
[00:45] <contrast> bishopz: i mean themes for what?
[00:46] <bishopz> oh desktop
[00:46] <bishopz> whole package
[00:46] <bishopz> ubuntu 8.10
[00:46] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: try konversation first
[00:46] <contrast> bishopz: already try gnome-look.org and/or kde-look.org?
[00:46] <Silentstri> that was what i was going to ask :P
[00:47] <bishopz> actually no , brb checking into it
[00:47] <contrast> konversation has fulfilled all my irc needs in the two years i've used linux without a problem
[00:47] <Silentstri> oh wait, gotta get internet workin
[00:47] <Silentstri> brb
[00:47] <DaSkreech> :-)
[00:47] <Silentstri> XD
[00:48] <Silentstri> *crosses fingers*
[00:48] <contrast> any ideas as to why xorg would be using 20-30% cpu when idle (desktop effects disabled and compiz isn't running)? this just started today out of nowhere
[00:48] <Silentstri> knocks on table
[00:48] <Silentstri> NOOOOOOOOOoo
[00:49] <bishopz> bad news?
[00:49] <Silentstri> internets not workin
[00:49] <bishopz> Silentstri: whats wrong/
[00:49] <Laeborg> anyone who knows a good ftp client ?
[00:49] <Silentstri> im fixing, hold on
[00:49] <bishopz> wifi or hard wire?
[00:50] <Silentstri> wifi
[00:50] <Silentstri> ok
[00:50] <bishopz> is it a laptop silent
[00:50] <contrast> Laeborg: filezilla
[00:50] <Silentstri> question
[00:50] <Silentstri> yes
[00:50] <Silentstri> if
[00:50] <bishopz> ok
[00:50] <bishopz> hang on
[00:50] <Silentstri> my encryption is tkip, how do I set that on my laptop
[00:50] <contrast> Laeborg: if you *just* need a client, konqueror works too
[00:50] <Silentstri> its only giving me option for WEP
[00:52] <bishopz> i use putty with my ftp
[00:52] <bishopz> -shrugs
[00:53] <bishopz> silentstri: whats the options in networks
[00:53] <Silentstri> its encrypted with a TKIP
[00:54] <Silentstri> WPA personal
[00:54] <Silentstri> and TKIP
[00:54] <bishopz> have u tried wpa
[00:54] <bishopz> Hold thought kids running loose
[00:54] <Silentstri> ^^
[00:56] <Silentstri> its only giving me option for either shared or open system wep modes
[00:57] <Silentstri> would ASCII make a diff?
[00:57] <EtFb> Here's a funny one.  I'm on Kubuntu 8.04 with an ATI graphics card.  Used to be that I couldn't suspend or hibernate, but something in the recent updates just fixed that for me with no effort on my part.  Now, I can't log out!  If I change my video drive to vesa instead of fglrx, I can log out, but if I leave it as is, the whole laptop crashes when I select Log Out from the menu.  Advice welcome!
[01:00] <Silentstri> afk
[01:01] <Silentstri> crap i hit ctrl+alt+f8 what happened?
[01:02] <Silentstri> what does ctrl+alt+f8 do?
[01:02] <Silentstri> meh
[01:02] <Silentstri> AFK
[01:02] <Huntz> what the ggrrrrr
[01:05] <Huntz> my upgrade crashed
[01:10] <Huntz> daskreech: you good with error logs?
[01:11] <[TCK]> quick question: reinstalling kubuntu over the old partition, I'm gonna need to install a new bootloader aren't I?
[01:12] <Huntz> depends on your setup
[01:14] <[TCK]> just realised how stupid my mind is, of course if the bootloader is on the same partition and you've formatted the partition, not backed up menu.lst and decided not to install a bootloader then you're a dumbass
[01:14] <[TCK]> it's late
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Sure
[01:15] <DaSkreech> [TCK]: It iwll install one
[01:15] <[TCK]> I went into advance and deselected that
[01:15] <[TCK]> go me!
[01:16] <[TCK]> just finished, grub error 15
[01:16] <[TCK]> there a quick way to install a proper bootloader without reinstalling kubuntu again?
[01:18] <Huntz> daskreech: here it comes
[01:18] <DaSkreech> !paste
[01:18] <DaSkreech> !grub | [TCK]
[01:18] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:30:49,396 DEBUG lsb-release: 'feisty'
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:30:49,396 DEBUG _pythonSymlinkCheck run
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:30:49,904 DEBUG checkViewDepends()
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:30:49,905 DEBUG getRequiredBackports()
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:31:29,365 ERROR IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu$
[01:19] <Huntz> > '. Retrying (currentRetry: 0)
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:31:30,377 ERROR IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu$
[01:19] <Huntz> > '. Retrying (currentRetry: 1)
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:31:32,358 ERROR IOError in cache.update(): 'Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu$
[01:19] <Huntz> > '. Retrying (currentRetry: 2)
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:31:32,358 ERROR doUpdate() failed complettely
[01:19] <Huntz> > 2009-02-22 18:31:44,766 ERROR Can not find backport 'release-upgrader-apt'
[01:19] <DaSkreech> !paste | Huntz. Please use this
[01:21] <Silentstri> i have a problem, can someone help me?
[01:21] <Huntz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121638/
[01:21] <yowshi> hi i have just moved from gnome to kde and i need a little help
[01:21] <Huntz> try that...lol
[01:21] <Silentstri> oh nvm
[01:22] <Silentstri> anyone can help a nub with wireless problem
[01:23] <Silentstri> anyone can help a nub with wireless problem
[01:24] <yuu_> hello everyone
[01:24] <Silentstri> hello
[01:26] <Huntz> hmmm, I wonder if tor is gonna be back
[01:27] <[TCK]> Silentstri: fire away
[01:27] <paco> hola
[01:27] <Silentstri> ok, i just learned that my wirless card (WPC54G) doesn't have a Kubuntu driver....
[01:27] <Silentstri> can I do anything about that?
[01:28] <bishopz> it might not be that
[01:28] <DaSkreech> Huntz: DEBUG?
[01:28] <bishopz> it might be that youre laptop is trying to run both drivers
[01:28] <bishopz> at the same time
[01:28] <[TCK]> there's always ndiswrapper, though I've never had much luck with it
[01:28] <Silentstri> no, I checked on the site
[01:28] <Silentstri> no driver for anything other then windows.... :/
[01:28] <anarchy> silentri have you tried ndiswrapper?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> yowshi: With?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> hi yuriy
[01:29] <[TCK]> apparently ndiswrapper has got better since I last tried it out
[01:29] <Huntz> daskreech: debug where?
[01:29] <Silentstri> ndiswrapper????
[01:29] <anarchy> different drivers can work better than others
[01:29] <bishopz> oh damn, i know on mine, i had to re update the drivers, and disable the laptops actual driver and let it run off linux default
[01:29] <Silentstri> i r nub, plz go slow ._.
[01:29] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[01:30] <yowshi> DaSkreech:  well firefox has buggered up and i am trying to figure out how to get app launchers from the panel in gnome into kde. i understand a direct copy is not possible but i realy do need some of the custom command launchers i made
[01:30] <[TCK]> ndiswrapper basically takes windows drivers and uses them in linux, sort of like a wine project for wireless drivers
[01:30] <Silentstri> so, I should google ndiswrapper
[01:30] <anarchy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?action=show
[01:30] <yowshi> DaSkreech: also i have an issue with pidgin but it isnt as big or important as any of my other issues
[01:30] <DaSkreech> Huntz: The update is throwing Debug messages. what was the command you used to get this?
[01:30] <bishopz> ^
[01:30] <Silentstri> put it on memory card, and put on other laptop?
[01:30] <[TCK]> follow the wifi link from ubottu
[01:30] <anarchy> use that link silentstri
[01:30] <DaSkreech> how is firefox bugerd?
[01:30] <Silentstri> ty anarchy
[01:31] <Huntz> nothing, I pulled it out of the ditro upgrade logs from the main log
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Did you do a sudo apt-get update ?
[01:31] <Huntz> ooohhh, wait mind needs to catch up
[01:31] <Huntz> no I didnt
[01:31] <anarchy> don't worry about the compiling from source part most of the time you don't need to do that with ndiswrapper silentstri
[01:32] <DaSkreech> I think that you also need to do an upgrade but that might not be smart since you are already running Gutsy repos
[01:32] <bishopz> -kicks compiz-
[01:32] <bishopz> !@#!@#(*!*#!(*
[01:33] <Huntz> daskreech: just the frontend distupgrade
[01:34] <DaSkreech> Huntz: That's from in the /tmp directory ?
[01:34] <Huntz> but it looks like its looking for the backports repo, doesn't it?
[01:34] <Huntz> the log or the upgrade file?
[01:34] <dash84> hey is it easy to hack someones computer on your wifi network
[01:34] <dash84> lol
[01:35] <Huntz> the error log is from var/usr/tmp?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Yeah it does. Good call
[01:35] <Huntz> the error log is from var/log/distupgrade
[01:35] <DaSkreech> dash84: maybe
[01:35] <yowshi> DaSkreech: any idea why my addons which worked perfectly fine in gnome stopped working after i switched over?
[01:36] <bishopz> lol @ maybe
[01:36] <bishopz> lol
[01:36] <bishopz> i had my desktop pimped
[01:36] <bishopz> all sorts of addons
[01:37] <DaSkreech> yowshi: No there should be no difference
[01:37] <bishopz> than went nah i want the plain look
[01:37] <Huntz> hmmmm, I dunno how its gonna like that, the repo for the backport is dogfood/launchpad
[01:37] <yowshi> DaSkreech: and yet there is. firefox says they are installed but none of them will activate. i cant even uninstall to reinstall tem
[01:37] <[TCK]> wow, fresh 8.10's a lot nippier than dist-upgraded 8.10
[01:38] <DaSkreech> Huntz: in feisty?
[01:38] <bishopz> mhm@TCK
[01:38] <yowshi> [TCK]: nippier?
[01:38] <Huntz> daskreech: yes
[01:38] <DaSkreech> Weird
[01:38] <Huntz> ya
[01:38] <[TCK]> well, it takes a lot shorter time to boot if nothing else
[01:38] <DaSkreech> [TCK]: Of course
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Huntz: What's the backports line ?
[01:39] <Huntz> I wonder if I should let adept do that and try to put one in manually that match us.archive.ubuntu
[01:39] <[TCK]> I was expecting it to be a little quicker, just not as drastic
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah I would say
[01:39] <DaSkreech> [TCK]: The longer you use a computer the more it gets gunky
[01:39] <Huntz> http://archive.dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[01:39] <Huntz> feisty-backports
[01:40] <DaSkreech> Ha ha ok fine roll with it
[01:40] <Huntz> main/debian-installer
[01:40] <yowshi> DaSkreech: oh wait i think i know why. kubuntu doesnt ave firefox 3
[01:40] <DaSkreech> yowshi: They are pulling from the same repos
[01:40] <nemesis> hi
[01:40] <DaSkreech> They all come from one server. So in short yes it does
[01:41] <yowshi> DaSkreech: well firefox 3 isnt listed in the kick off app launcher
[01:41] <[TCK]> DaSkreech: true, not that I was expecting linux distros to be immune to that, but Windows still gets it worse
[01:41] <DaSkreech> yowshi: type firefox it should give you an option to run it
[01:41] <yowshi> DaSkreech: though i did have it as an app launcxher in the panel in gnome
[01:41] <nemesis> alguien habla en español
[01:41] <DaSkreech> !es | nemesis
[01:41] <nemesis> es que tengo un problema
[01:41] <nemesis> thank's
[01:41] <DaSkreech> [TCK]: The problem with Windows is you can't clean it without wiping it.
[01:42] <DaSkreech> I can spruce back up a Linux install to brand new. I can make it faster than brand new if I like
[01:42] <yowshi> DaSkreech: there is a firefox button with no title under it but that loads something wierd looks almost like a window window and it isnt the firefox 3 i ave installed
[01:42] <[TCK]> DaSkreech: I assume it isn't as simple as typing one word into cli :P
[01:45] <bishopz> the kis underlined
[01:45] <bishopz> jdsnd
[01:46] <DaSkreech> yowshi: strange
[01:46] <DaSkreech> yowshi: press alt+f2 and type in firefox
[01:46] <DaSkreech> [TCK]: one command possibly
[01:46] <bishopz> kjsnfd
[01:46] <bishopz> dkjnd
[01:47] <yowshi> DaSkreech: it's in the system i just launched it manually. it just isnt in the kick start list. possibly because i took it out of the gnome app launcher list and put it on the top panel
[01:47] <DaSkreech> yowshi: sounds likely
[01:47] <yowshi> DaSkreech: how do i put it on the kde panel or back into the kickstart app launcher?
[01:48] <DaSkreech> Well I think there is a more approved way of getting launchers on the panel but I just drag the executable there and it makes a button
[01:48] <bishopz> how would someone on regular irc get in here. like on windows
[01:48] <bishopz> link-
[01:49] <yowshi> DaSkreech: i did that in gnome and it moved from the launcher l.list onto the panel
[01:49] <DaSkreech> bishopz: Regular IRC?
[01:49] <DaSkreech> I've been using irregualr IRC?
[01:49] <bishopz> i mean whats the channel
[01:50] <DaSkreech> #kubuntu on irc.freenode.net
[01:50] <bishopz> ty sir
[01:50] <DaSkreech> yowshi: alt+f2 and dolphin /usr/bin
[01:50] <DaSkreech> Drag what ever you want to the panel
[01:50] <DaSkreech> Then in the properties just give it an icon
[01:50] <DaSkreech> I know there must be a better way that's just what I did
[01:51] <yowshi> DaSkreech: huh
[01:52] <bishopz> selectserver
[01:54] <bishopz> Daskreech, can u type me a walk thru to get in here ... my girls new to irc, and im on konversation
[01:55] <Silentstri> ???
[01:55] <Silentstri> why i quit?
[01:55] <yowshi> DaSkreech: i could use a little bit mnore then that because i have on idea what i am looking at in dolphin
[01:57] <Huntz> aarrrrgggg
[01:57] <Huntz> I thought I had it but I thinks it was qrong
[01:59] <DaSkreech> yowshi: That's the list of commands (programs) on the computer
[01:59] <DaSkreech> just type firefox
[01:59] <DaSkreech> It should take you to the firefox binary
[01:59] <DaSkreech> you can press enter to run it and see if that's what you want
[02:00] <yowshi> DaSkreech: i already did that drag pasrt i did it right from the folder browser
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Just drag it to a panel and it makes a button
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[02:01] <Huntz> well this is getting frustrating, It doesnt like them links
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Huntz: grr ok make it look live everything else but use feisty-backports
[02:02] <DaSkreech>  or gutsy-backports
[02:02] <DaSkreech> whichever it's using now
[02:03] <yowshi> DaSkreech: one app launche down 12 to go. is there a file where gnome put the app launcher button data so i dont have to log into gnome to find it?
[02:03] <yowshi> DaSkreech: also i'd like to move the vlock and open app icons to the top panel but leave the open windows and kickstart at the bottom how do i do that
[02:04] <Huntz> hold on, I am gonna post the new log
[02:05] <bishopz> Ok how do i instal downloaded themes
[02:06] <DaSkreech> yowshi: in ~/.gnome I would guess
[02:07] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Hmm ? You want two panels?
[02:07] <Huntz> daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121649/
[02:07] <yuriy> DaSkreech: hmm? what's up?
[02:07] <DaSkreech> hi yuriy
[02:07] <DaSkreech> How are you?
[02:07] <yuriy> good, you?
[02:07] <yowshi> DaSkreech: yes one for the apps that are running my clock and the various app launchers i am going to add for it and one for the windows thatare open. two just makes everything actually viewable
[02:08] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Bleh lets recreate the file and start over
[02:08] <DaSkreech> yuriy: Pretty decent. had a nice weekend
[02:08] <Huntz> rgr that
[02:08] <yowshi> DaSkreech: i have a second panel just a matter of moving everything around though some of it i dont know what it is called to move it
[02:08] <DaSkreech> yowshi: right click the desktop and add panel
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Wait
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Wait wait. Why is it feisty-backports and gutsy everything else ?
[02:09] <Huntz> eh?
[02:09] <DaSkreech> The error
[02:09] <Huntz> dunno
[02:09] <DaSkreech> Everything is gutsy except the backports. That's feisty
[02:09] <DaSkreech> bleh
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Lets start over :)
[02:10] <Huntz> rgr, I was half deleted already
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Huntz: how do you 1/2 delete ?
[02:10] <DaSkreech> !ops
[02:10] <Huntz> I was holding hte delete key
[02:11] <DaSkreech> Huntz: just mv it to something else
[02:11] <DaSkreech> might be helpful to look back into it
[02:11] <nixternal> DaSkreech: ?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> nixternal:  can you temp ban tor?
[02:11] <DaSkreech> has been logging in and out for hours
[02:11] <DaSkreech> With nick collisions
[02:11] <bishopz> yea he has
[02:11] <DaSkreech> I'm pretty sure if someone is on the other end they would have noticed by now
[02:12] <nixternal> _tor: are you OK?
[02:13] <yowshi> grrrr is there no way to make the clocks in kde show non military time?
[02:13] <DaSkreech> Logs in with _tor changes it to Guestsomething changes it back to tor collides logsout logs back in with _tor
[02:13] <DaSkreech> yowshi: There is. I can't remember how. I think it's in system settings. Let me try find out
[02:14] <yowshi> you'd think it would be in the clock settings :)
[02:14] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[02:14] <Huntz> daskreech: ok backed up faulty one, clean slate
[02:14] <bishopz> ^
[02:14] <nixternal> hehe, watching him
[02:14] <bishopz> banbanban
[02:14] <yowshi> also the panel entries arent in .gnome :(
[02:14] <bishopz> :-X
[02:14] <DaSkreech> Use adept to make a new one. with backports then do the do-release-upgrade
[02:15] <nixternal> tor: speak up now or forever hold your peace
[02:15] <bishopz> nixternal: good evening
[02:15] <nixternal> wasabi
[02:15] <amazed> hi bishopz
[02:15] <nixternal> forever hold that peace!
[02:15] <GWild> haha
[02:15] <Huntz> lol
[02:15] <DaSkreech> peace. OUT!
[02:15] <bishopz> amazed: hi wanna connect ? ;x
[02:15] <bishopz> lol _tor go buhbye
[02:15] <amazed> lol
[02:16]  * DaSkreech high fives nixternal
[02:16] <bishopz> nixternal: tyvm
[02:16] <DaSkreech> nixternal: I owe you a Buju Cd :)
[02:16] <bishopz> hey wheres mine
[02:16] <bishopz> dahell is this crap
[02:16] <Huntz> laf
[02:17] <Silentstri> how do I view the contents of a CD with a kubuntu v 6.06 non-update?
[02:18] <Silentstri> can someone tell me what program i should use to open CD's on kubuntu
[02:18] <Silentstri> ?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Silentstri: Konqueror
[02:18] <bishopz> ^
[02:18] <Silentstri> its giving error
[02:18] <DaSkreech> Which error?
[02:19] <bishopz> -kicks my vlc- STOP FREEZING
[02:19] <bishopz> sorry emotional outburst
[02:20] <EtFb> yowshi: Did you solve your time display problem?
[02:20] <yowshi> not yet
[02:20]  * EtFb wrote tiem instead of time at first. Too many LOLcats!
[02:20] <Silentstri> "could not mount device. the reported error was: Mount:block device /dev/hdc is write protected, mounting in read-only. MOUNT: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on dev/hdc missing codepage or other error in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[02:20] <yowshi> query whats the dasboard thing
[02:20] <EtFb> yowshi: It's in regional settings (or whatever it's called) in System Settings.
[02:20] <bishopz> keyword for today: mounting
[02:20] <bishopz> lol
[02:21] <Silentstri> i dunno what that means...
[02:21] <EtFb> yowshi: Change the format for how short time is displayed.  There are examples in the drop-downs.
[02:21] <GWild> adept is stating there is an error removing an installed package (gvim). Is there a way to remove this manually?
[02:21] <Peeeeeet> Hey all
[02:21] <Silentstri> so how do I fix?
[02:22] <bishopz> honestly, mounting - not my thing, daskreech saved my neck with mounting my drive
[02:22] <Silentstri> i gotta go to bed.... school 2morrow
[02:22] <Silentstri> ><
[02:23] <Silentstri> k thanks for everything to everyone who helped me, especially anarchy, daskreech and bishopz
[02:23] <yowshi> how do i change something position on a panelk?
[02:23] <Silentstri> ciao
[02:23] <Silentstri> right click
[02:23] <DaSkreech> yowshi: It's a collection of widgets you want to see quickly. by default it's your desktop
[02:23] <bishopz> anytime
[02:23] <Silentstri> :P gnight all
[02:23] <Peeeeeet> so is there any niceties to asking a question here?  (the irony of asking that is not lost on me)
[02:23] <bishopz> see ya tomorrow
[02:23] <bishopz> (most likely)
[02:23] <bishopz> lolol
[02:23] <Silentstri> lol ciao
[02:24] <yowshi> DaSkreech: but my desktop used to have all my often used files and most used directories. i used it to store stuff on
[02:24] <Peeeeeet> I've been in plenty of support irc channels that get crabby if you ask a question "out of turn" or something
[02:25] <EtFb> Peeeeeet: Ask your question.  If anyone can think of an answer, they will probably answer it.  If they can't, think about it from a different angle and try again.
[02:25] <bishopz> ^
[02:25] <yowshi> tjhough kde has the reall cool drop down menu for seeing whats on the desktop
[02:25] <EtFb> Peeeeeet: A lot of IRC channels are populated by people with no (a) life, (b) clue, or (c) chance of ever getting out of their parents' basement.  This is not such a channel.
[02:25] <evan_> Anybody know how to disable plasma as part of the startkde sequence?  Or where it gets called?  I run KDE4 atop ion3, and don't use any desktop whatsoever.  I just want to comment out the exec of plasma itself.
[02:25] <bishopz> wow, reality just kicked in... its 9:25, im watching fricking madagascar2 and coding..
[02:26] <bishopz> i need a life=
[02:26] <DaSkreech> yowshi: What version of KDE are you using?
[02:26] <Peeeeeet> EtFb: glad to hear it :)
[02:26] <yowshi> DaSkreech: i am guessing the last one to come out 4.2 something
[02:27] <DaSkreech> yowshi: open dolphin and help -> about KDE
[02:27] <Peeeeeet> Well I just installed Kubuntu 8.10 AMD64 then after starting up the first thing I do is activate the proprietary nvidia driver and when I restart it lands in command line.  How would I "deactivate" said proprietary driver from command line?
[02:27] <evan_> (Incidentally, for anybody who cares, most plasmoids run perfectly nicely in the frames of a framing window manager)
[02:27] <yowshi> DaSkreech: 4.2.00
[02:27] <DaSkreech> yowshi: ok cool
[02:28] <DaSkreech> You have two options for your files
[02:28] <DaSkreech> You can put a folder view on your desktop or you can make your desktop a folderview
[02:29] <EtFb> Peeeeeet: I'd love to know that too.  I fiddled with 8.10 for a while and the stupid changes to xorg.conf were a major reason I went scarpering back to the safety of 8.04, which still has KDE 3.5, the last known functioning version of KDE...
[02:29] <yowshi> i had a desktop folder view thingy on the desktop before but i closed it i didnt know what it ws other then a folder
[02:29] <yowshi> and now i dont know how to get it back
[02:29] <yowshi> the desktop folder view was open when i launched kde
[02:29] <Slartibartfast> Peeeeeet, can't you just change nvidia in xorg.conf to nv ?
[02:29] <EtFb> yowshi: This is KDE 4?
[02:30] <yowshi> EtFb: yes 4.2.00
[02:30] <EtFb> Slartibartfast: xorg.conf is dead in KDE 4.
[02:30] <yowshi> kde 4 doesnt use xorg.conf?
[02:30] <EtFb> yowshi: Click on the cashew (the stupid little icon in the top left of the desktop) and fiddle with the settings there.
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> it has nothing to do with KDE4, but rather that xorg.conf is dead in the New Xorg
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> and if you still have an xorg.conf it will use it
[02:31] <Peeeeeet> yeah KDE 4.2
[02:31] <Slartibartfast> i still really have         Driver  "nvidia"
[02:31] <Peeeeeet> I'll try changing nvidia to nv
[02:31] <yowshi> EtFb: cool
[02:31] <EtFb> JontheEchidna: Bugger.  Really?  I was hoping it was yet another stupid KDE 4 decision that would be reversed.  And my experience is that it won't use the xorg.conf unless you put in the right stuff, and there's no way any more to know what that is, because the comments and helpful defaults are gone.
[02:31] <JontheEchidna> nah, xorg changes all the way
[02:32] <yowshi> EtFb: the show desktop widget thingy doesnt actually minimize any windows :(
[02:32] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Do you want that view or all the icons on your desktop as before ?
[02:32] <gustavo> buenas  no puedo  ver  videos  online  alguien me puede  ayudar?
[02:32] <yowshi> DaSkreech: yeah etfb told me how. i put all my most used apps onto my panel i dont need a widget dashboard
[02:33] <DaSkreech> !es
[02:33] <EtFb> yowshi: I was understanding your problem as follows: there used to be a black square on your desktop (top left quarter or so) that had the desktop icons in it.  It's gone.  You want it back.  Is that right?
[02:33] <gustavo> sorry  thanks  =)
[02:33] <yowshi> EtFb: nope
[02:33] <DaSkreech> EtFb: KDE can't really decide not to us xorg.conf without not using X which is kinda dumb
[02:34] <yowshi> EtFb: though i like that drop down menu for the desktop folder and i am keeping it.
[02:34] <EtFb> yowshi: Well, then!  I've solved a problem you didn't have!  Aren't you grateful?  Now you don't have that problem twice!
[02:34] <DaSkreech> the xorg.conf changes are fully Xorg's choice. They are trying to get to a point where if you delete xorg.conf X will still work and all changes will be in the GUI
[02:34] <Huntz> daskreech: so how should i do this
[02:35] <EtFb> DaSkreech: And in the process are Gnome-ifying X, ie making it so simple that only an idiot would/could use it.  Very un-KDE.
[02:35] <yowshi> EtFb: mno my problem was i wanted my folder and stuff i had on my desktop back on my desktop. when you said the little cashew thing i minimized all windows and atrted looking around and changed desktop to folder view
[02:35] <yowshi> EtFb: now i need a way to minimize all windows
[02:35] <DaSkreech> Huntz: run the sudo do-release-upgrade. lets take it from the top
[02:35] <yowshi> a mouse action would nbe nice
[02:35] <EtFb> yowshi: That works too.  I'd forgotten that option.
[02:35] <DaSkreech> Huntz: pastebin your sources.list first
[02:35] <Peeeeeet> hm, changing it to nv didn't do it
[02:35] <Peeeeeet> I'm thinkin the suggestion to go 8.04 is a good one
[02:35] <yowshi> also would be ince o know how to move icons around the panel to put them in the order i want
[02:35] <EtFb> Peeeeeet: Try vesa.
[02:35] <Huntz> where am I gonna pull a source list from
[02:36] <DaSkreech> EtFb: Xorg is neither Gnome nor KDE. Both have very little say in Xorg though they both have influence
[02:36] <EtFb> Peeeeeet: I gave Intrepid a good couple of weeks, and when kubuntu-experimental got 4.2 I really thought it might work.  But too much is broken.  I'm sticking with Hardy for a while.
[02:36] <Peeeeeet> EtFb: tried that before I came here (that's what's in xorg.conf.failsafe... not so failsafeish after all)
[02:36] <DaSkreech> yowshi: click the cashew at the end of the panel and then just drag them around
[02:37] <DaSkreech> Huntz: did you remake it in adept ?
[02:37] <yowshi> DaSkreech: thanks
[02:37] <EtFb> DaSkreech: Not saying they're the same, just that they're tending toward the Gnome attitude (make it simple) instead of the KDE one (make everything configurable).
[02:37] <Huntz> no when you said start over I thoughwe were gonna do somethin different
[02:38] <EtFb> DaSkreech: The trouble with that is that sometimes I want to be able to make changes that disagree with what their software thinks is best.
[02:38] <Slartibartfast> Peeeeeet, just apt-get remove the nvidia stuff won't help?
[02:38] <DaSkreech> EtFb: the idea is it never disrespects the xorg.conf
[02:38] <DaSkreech> if you put one in with all sorts of stuff it will follow it
[02:39] <DaSkreech> but if you don't even have one it should still work
[02:39] <bishopz> im ready to drop kick ubuntu
[02:39] <Peeeeeet> Slartibartfast: i don't know what the nvidia stuff is, how do u get apt-get to list what stuff is instaleld?
[02:39] <yowshi> how do i change the [panel colours
[02:39] <DaSkreech> so the first thing is to make the xorg.conf as minimalist as possible
[02:39] <bishopz> and forget about compiz and themes
[02:39] <Slartibartfast> See what is installed with dpkg -l *nvidia*
[02:39] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Themes
[02:39] <EtFb> DaSkreech: I guess I just need to know more about the xorg.conf syntax then.  I could never get it to behave.
[02:39] <DaSkreech> under appearance settings
[02:39] <yowshi> DaSkreech: where is thta located?
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Right click the desktop and appearance settings -> themes
[02:40] <bishopz> -perks- themes
[02:40] <Slartibartfast> Peeeeeet, whats listed with a ii in the first column is installed
[02:41] <bishopz> lol
[02:41] <DaSkreech> bishopz: What do you want from Compiz?
[02:41] <russlar> so, how long should I expect it to take to rsync 160GB of data from one USB disk to another?
[02:42] <bishopz> something nice. i dont know
[02:42] <Peeeeeet> yeah, i see em, nvidia-177 and such, that's the ones i installed in KDE
[02:42] <DaSkreech> bishopz: Did you try kwin ?
[02:42] <bishopz> lol. i cant seem to get it right
[02:42] <bishopz> no
[02:42] <russlar> bishopz: I'm a fan of snow
[02:42] <DaSkreech> It has somethign nice :)
[02:42] <bishopz> hmmmm
[02:42] <bishopz> where is it.
[02:42] <russlar> in kwin
[02:42] <Slartibartfast> Peeeeeet so remoce them ... with apt-get --purge remove
[02:43] <Slartibartfast> remove
[02:43] <russlar> and outside
[02:43] <[TCK]> anyone have any reasons why upgrading to KDE4.2 from a fresh 8.10 would result in broken dependencies and an unusable system?
[02:43] <bishopz> wait kwin is diff from compiz?
[02:43] <russlar> yes
[02:43] <yowshi> arg
[02:43] <bishopz> apt-get kwin
[02:43] <bishopz> correct
[02:43] <bishopz> ?
[02:43] <yowshi> bloody fade out names in the window tabs
[02:44] <yowshi> i like aya but i dont like the nam fade thing
[02:44] <russlar> [TCK]: some of the 4.1 packages need to be removed in order for 4.2 to work
[02:44] <russlar> [TCK]: try upgrading from a terminal session
[02:44] <bishopz> 3d wrap and all on this?
[02:45] <Peeeeeet> Slartibartfast: That did it, thanks.
[02:46] <Slartibartfast> welcome
[02:47] <[TCK]> that makes sense
[02:47] <Peeeeeet> So is the general consensus to stay with 8.04 / KDE 3.5 for the time being?
[02:47] <[TCK]> do it tomorrow though, need to be awake in 4 hours
[02:47] <russlar> Peeeeeet: it;s up to you
[02:48] <[TCK]> Peeeeeet: stability wise, yes
[02:48] <russlar> 4.2 is very close to where 3.5 was
[02:48] <[TCK]> 4.2 is close though
[02:50] <russlar> question for those running already 4.2: is there any real reason to upgrade when jaunty comes out?
[02:50] <russlar> I don't need ext4 on a laptop
[02:50] <bishopz> anyone know the sudo for gnome-themes
[02:50] <[TCK]> russlar: of note, can't actually get into a terminal application, most of what's broken is core kde stuff such as window decorations that won't let me type in terminals or password request boxes.  Probably just re-reinstall
[02:51] <russlar> [TCK]: crtrl+alt+F1?
[02:51] <russlar> question for those running already 4.2: is there any real reason to upgrade when jaunty comes out?
[02:52] <bishopz> not really... mostly bug fixes
[02:52] <bishopz> :-P
[02:52] <[TCK]> ah yes, forgot about that, thanks russlar
[02:53] <OxDeadC0de> anyone else here use Qt 4.5 with kde 4.2?
[02:53] <DaSkreech> what's aya ?
[02:53] <russlar> OxDeadC0de: if I am, I wouldn't know it
[02:54] <russlar> DaSkreech: the default theme in opensuse
[02:54] <OxDeadC0de> russlar: plasma --version
[02:54] <DaSkreech> russlar: 4.3
[02:54] <OxDeadC0de> (or if using kde-nightly/trunk plasma-desktop --version)
[02:54] <OxDeadC0de> well, duh, if you're using trunk/nightly you have to be using 4.5 (kde won't compile without it now)
[02:55] <russlar> nope
[02:55] <russlar> 4.4.3
[02:55] <DaSkreech> russlar: I'm saying a good reason to be on Jaunty os 4.3
[02:55] <Wargasm> howcome after all updates it still says 4.1?
[02:55] <Wargasm> isn't 4.2 official
[02:55] <OxDeadC0de> yes
[02:55] <Wargasm> how do i upgrade
[02:56] <OxDeadC0de> 4.2 isn't in the official 8.10 repo's
[02:56] <OxDeadC0de> see topic
[02:56] <Wargasm> ok thanks
[02:56] <OxDeadC0de>  http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[02:56] <Wargasm> ty
[02:56] <russlar> DaSkreech: kde 4.3 won't be out until june though
[02:56] <OxDeadC0de> 4.3 will rock though..
[02:56] <russlar> jaunty lands in april
[02:57] <Slartibartfast> OxDeadC0de, how you know :-) ?
[02:57] <russlar> OxDeadC0de: it'll be rock if they code-name it granite
[02:57] <OxDeadC0de> Slartibartfast I try to follow some of the development, specifically in #plasma and plasma mailing list
[02:57] <russlar> anything else is just a dot release
[02:58] <OxDeadC0de> haha russlar
[02:58] <Slartibartfast> OxDeadC0de, can you share with us a little about these rocking new features ?
[02:58] <DaSkreech> russlar: Yes but when it comes out jaunty will get the updates
[02:58] <DaSkreech> Ibex likely will not
[02:58] <russlar> ahh
[02:58] <bishopz> bex def wont
[02:58] <yowshi> note to self. do not run compiz on kde
[02:58] <DaSkreech> At least it's the reason I update
[02:58] <OxDeadC0de> mainly qt4.5, bugfix's up the wazoo, new programs, new containments, Amarok is going to have some special accoustic based dynamic playlists (analyzes songs in your playlist to find others that match accoustically)
[02:59] <DaSkreech>  It's kinda fun every 3 months I have something to look forward to
[02:59] <bishopz> yowshi: what happened
[02:59] <bishopz> DaSkreech: LOL
[02:59] <DaSkreech> Major kubutu update then major KDE update then major kubuntu update
[02:59] <DaSkreech>  It's fun :)
[02:59] <Slartibartfast> mmmm ok :-) ...
[02:59] <russlar> if only they'd sync
[02:59] <yowshi> bishopz: mouse locked. i could move the cursor but the buttons didnt do anything.
[02:59] <DaSkreech> Not going to happen unless Gnome blinks
[02:59] <russlar> major KDe release, then a month later major kubu release
[03:00] <bishopz> yowshi: wtf!
[03:00] <Huntz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121660/ it hasnt changed much
[03:00] <DaSkreech> and Gnome's thing is it doesn't blink
[03:00] <OxDeadC0de> russlar I wish... would have saved a ton of heartache over 4.1 :P
[03:00] <yowshi> bishopz: in actuality that happened after i tried to shut down compiz
[03:00] <DaSkreech> yowshi: if you can alt+ctrl+F1 and then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:00] <bishopz> yowshi: thats an odd glitch, when i tried to run them both, my screen just went completely black
[03:00] <Slartibartfast> isn't kde 4.3 planned for june ?
[03:01] <russlar> Slartibartfast: yup
[03:01] <bishopz> june/july
[03:01] <yowshi> DaSkreech: thanks i didnt know about the kdm resxtart problem is i am neve going to remember the folder thing that goes befoe the kdm rewstart
[03:01] <OxDeadC0de> the kde website would be the best resource to find release dates slartibartfast
[03:01] <russlar> my guess is that it'll show up in the expermental ppa
[03:01] <russlar> then backports
[03:01] <OxDeadC0de> slartibartfast, I like the name btw ;)
[03:01] <yowshi> DaSkreech: thats the kind of thing iwould normally build an app launcher for
[03:01] <OxDeadC0de> reminds me of a trilogy I read once
[03:01] <Slartibartfast> :-D
[03:01] <Slartibartfast> 42
[03:02] <OxDeadC0de> exactly.
[03:02] <russlar> I was going to comment on the name, but it's not that important
[03:02] <OxDeadC0de> and there were 5 books in it.. oddest thing ever
[03:02] <OxDeadC0de> how improbable.
[03:02] <yowshi> ok everything is in working order except the tiny pidgin thing and the fact i dont have any of my gnome panl app launchers
[03:02] <Slartibartfast> hehehe ... no other book made me laugh that loud
[03:03] <DaSkreech> yowshi: no good if you can't click it :-P
[03:03] <Huntz> daskreech: you catch that link
[03:03] <bishopz> ohno! my mom was on
[03:03] <russlar> I liked the part where they saw the entire universe, with a little box that said "you are here"
[03:03] <bishopz> lol
[03:03] <amazed> lol
[03:03] <Slartibartfast> :-)
[03:03] <russlar> there are worse things she can catch you doing
[03:03] <amazed> yeah there is.
[03:04] <bishopz> lmfao. man my moms been thru hell with me behind a comp
[03:04] <bishopz> ina 5 year span...3 federal raids
[03:04] <bishopz> i think when she passed away, she actually whispered.. leave the comp alone
[03:04] <OxDeadC0de> god the whole damn thing was awesome, the movie didn't give it justice but was still fun to watch..
[03:04] <russlar> that may not be somehting to be proud of?
[03:04] <DaSkreech> Huntz: You have two backports lines
[03:04] <yowshi> DaSkreech: know what else resarts kdm? alt + crtl + backspace :)
[03:05] <bishopz> well , intelligence + boredom+ drugs = not always the best combo
[03:05] <bishopz> lol
[03:05] <amazed> yeah and being your wife isn't a walk in the park. just saying.
[03:05] <Huntz> ya for some reason adaept isnt changing it
[03:05] <russlar> yowshi: that restarts the entire X server, too
[03:05] <bishopz> baby u love being my wife  ;/
[03:05] <yowshi> i know it does
[03:05] <Huntz> somehow we got tainted donuts
[03:05] <yowshi> couldnt i just go alt + ctrl + f1 sudo killall kdm then kdm?
[03:05] <OxDeadC0de> He's the most important man in the universe.... according to the machine that analyzes (what was it.. buntcake?) and calculates the entirety of the universe from it... at least.. that universe..
[03:06] <Slartibartfast> the answer is still 42 :-P .... after those millions of years :-D
[03:07] <OxDeadC0de> yeah, but what's the question my friend?:P
[03:07] <yowshi> the infinite perspective machine
[03:07] <yowshi> or was it just the perspective machine
[03:07] <DaSkreech> yowshi: yes :)
[03:07] <OxDeadC0de> hey, someone has to give nagging house-wifes perspective somehow...
[03:08] <OxDeadC0de> gj!
[03:08] <bishopz> lolol
[03:08] <yowshi> i want a cup held up by art
[03:08] <DaSkreech> yowshi: yes but my way is more humane :)
[03:08] <russlar> good luck with that
[03:09] <yowshi> DaSkreech: meh humane is for humans i kill my machine any way i please :)
[03:09] <yowshi> DaSkreech: and i can actually remember the commands i use
[03:09] <DaSkreech> Huntz: ok that one doesn't resolve on a sudo apt-get update anyway right ?
[03:09] <OxDeadC0de> bishopz mix in alcohol witht hat combo you listed above, and you  have me right now..
[03:09] <Huntz> !effects of dynamite on EOL
[03:09] <Slartibartfast> what is the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything
[03:09] <DaSkreech> yowshi: for information sakes all daemons are in /etc/init.d
[03:09] <bishopz> lolol
[03:09] <yowshi> DaSkreech: yeah i am probably ont gonna be able to remember that either
[03:09] <DaSkreech> If you look in there all stuff running in the background and at startup are in there
[03:10] <yowshi> DaSkreech: in order to remember something i must understnd it
[03:10] <DaSkreech> yowshi: It's the same directory
[03:10] <DaSkreech> yowshi: That's why I'm explaining
[03:10] <yowshi> DaSkreech: yeah but what the heck is init.d?
[03:10] <DaSkreech> When you initalize your computer it runs the scripts in init.d
[03:10] <bishopz> initi...
[03:10] <bishopz> nvm
[03:10] <DaSkreech> the initiliaztion directory
[03:10] <DaSkreech> init
[03:10] <russlar> yowshi: init is the startup script from unix
[03:10] <DaSkreech> :-p
[03:11] <yowshi> then why is there a .d in it?
[03:11] <DaSkreech> To show it's a directory
[03:11] <russlar> daemon
[03:11] <DaSkreech> like .jpg shows it's a jpeg
[03:11] <OxDeadC0de> thank god for the guide or I'd never laugh.. Well, maybe not "God", but you know what I mean....
[03:11] <DaSkreech> it's different from the init file
[03:11] <russlar> he proved himself not to exist
[03:12] <DaSkreech> yowshi: All scripts in there take either start stop or restart as an option
[03:12] <bishopz> my eyes, feel heavvvvy
[03:12] <yowshi> i see so there is an init file and it calls up the init directory but so keep confusion down they added a .d to the directory
[03:12] <DaSkreech> so /etc/init.d/mysql start will start the mysql database
[03:12] <DaSkreech> Right
[03:12] <Huntz> daskreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121662/
[03:12] <DaSkreech> which has a bunch of scripts
[03:12] <BattleStarJesus> Do any of you know how to change miro settings?
[03:12] <yowshi> well now i will probably rmember it
[03:13] <Huntz> now we losst the Fin backport again
[03:13] <russlar> if you write it down, you won't have to remember :-p
[03:13] <yowshi> i like how after rebooting kde keeps the windows open that were open
[03:14] <OxDeadC0de> hmm ogre3d in the repo's is quite old.. 1.4.9 , the latest release is 1.7.0
[03:14] <DaSkreech> Huntz: you clicked backports in Adept ?
[03:14] <OxDeadC0de> (well, trunk is 1.7.0 at least...)
[03:14] <yowshi> grrr what is with the pidgin posting stickiness
[03:14] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Yeah it's cool eh?
[03:14] <Huntz> that was the one with that dogfood/launchpad.net
[03:15] <Huntz> still think roll with it?
[03:15] <yowshi> it should just show the new post not scroll the new post onto the screen
[03:15] <yowshi> is there a kde alternative to compiz?
[03:15] <russlar> yowshi: kwin
[03:15] <OxDeadC0de> yowshi it's not new, but it's upgraded to compete with compiz
[03:15] <bishopz> kwin
[03:15] <OxDeadC0de> what they said
[03:15] <yowshi> cool
[03:15] <bishopz> lol
[03:16] <DaSkreech> Huntz: in adept for updates you had checked backports?
[03:16] <DaSkreech> yowshi: kwin
[03:16] <DaSkreech> bishopz: tried kwin ?
[03:16] <OxDeadC0de> rofl
[03:16] <Peeeeeet> Yeah, I just noticed that, it still says KDE 4.1 when I'm starting up
[03:16] <yowshi> arg why isnt kwin in adept?
[03:16] <bishopz> im checking it out now, as far as requirements
[03:17] <bishopz> and such
[03:17]  * OxDeadC0de recompiles ogre3d from trunk
[03:17] <bishopz> -on ubuntu 8.10
[03:17] <bishopz> gnome
[03:17] <bishopz> so im reading a little.
[03:17] <DaSkreech> yowshi: it's probably installed already
[03:17] <DaSkreech> yowshi: run kwin --replace
[03:17] <bishopz> thatll replace the compiz config.
[03:17] <bishopz> ?
[03:18] <yowshi> that worked how do i adjust what effcts are used by kwin?
[03:18] <yowshi> ah alt f2 and find the desktop effects editor
[03:18] <DaSkreech> yowshi: alt+F3 Window Properties
[03:19] <DaSkreech> It's easy after that
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Wait
[03:19] <DaSkreech> Window Behaviour
[03:20] <yowshi> DaSkreech: alt + f3 does nothing
[03:21] <faileas> !aptfix
[03:21] <bishopz> brb sidhes to be done
[03:21] <bishopz> uhm
[03:21] <bishopz> dishes*
[03:22] <faileas> hmm
[03:22] <faileas> i got an error massage sayin "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable" i tried the usual thing ( as above) but it dosen't seem to help. any ideas?
[03:22] <yowshi> DaSkreech: there isnt much guidance in how to set this up is there
[03:23] <faileas> oh, fixed it ;p
[03:23] <amazed> grats
[03:23] <Huntz> arg, it keeps on shrinking every time I try and put backports on I loose one rep
[03:25] <khalid> quiero ver el escritorio en forma de cubo y no me funciona. También en la pestana efectos visuales de Sistema/Preferencias/Apariencia me aparecen sólo 3 opciones y me dicen que debe haber una más llamada personalizar o algo así, pero no me aparece. Desde ya muchas gracias.
[03:25] <Huntz> I am thinking of entering in the old one from edgy and changing it to feisty and starting the 7.04 to 7.10 from the top
[03:25] <amazed> if only I could respond in spanish appropriately.
[03:25] <faileas> !es
[03:25] <DaSkreech> yowshi: you have kwin running?
[03:26] <faileas> Huntz: i suspect you'd be better off backing up and reinstalling
[03:26] <khalid> no  mi han ayudado de nada
[03:26] <faileas> thats just me
[03:26] <yowshi> DaSkreech: yes and i sed alt + f2 to run the desktop effects configurer but i cant make much out of it
[03:27] <Huntz> lol
[03:28] <DaSkreech> yowshi: press alt+space
[03:28] <DaSkreech> what happens?
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Ok where are we?
[03:29] <yowshi> 		
[03:29] <Huntz> I ahve just enter the old repo list from edgy
[03:30] <Huntz> and I am looking at the perl line thinking I need to input some stuff
[03:31] <yowshi> DaSkreech: nothing
[03:31] <yowshi> DaSkreech: but i have other effects like the flip screen for desktops when i move my mouse to the midle bottom
[03:31] <DaSkreech> yowshi: When you click the right most corner of a window what happens
[03:31] <dan-gar> hi
[03:32] <yowshi> DaSkreech: nothing theres a cashew there for the top panel
[03:32] <Huntz> DaSkreech: sudo perl -p -i.ORIG -e 's/(?:(?:\w+.)?archive|security).(ubuntu.com)/old-releases.$1/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:32] <DaSkreech> yowshi: not the screen. The window
[03:32] <DaSkreech> .ORIG?
[03:32] <Huntz> does that line read right or do I need to put in some of my own info inplace of something
[03:33] <Huntz> that or else I go through and hand edit it like I did last time
[03:33] <yowshi> DaSkreech:  the maximize button?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> yowshi: You have a maximize button on the far right corner of your window?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> Wait
[03:34] <DaSkreech> left
[03:34] <DaSkreech>  :-)
[03:34] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Where did you get .ORIG from ?
[03:34] <yowshi> DaSkreech: thats where the close button is
[03:34] <DaSkreech> yowshi: on the left?
[03:34] <Huntz> the very first perl command for changing edgy repos to feissty repos
[03:34] <yowshi> DaSkreech: top left corner
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Serious? that's where the close button is?
[03:35] <yowshi> of this window anyway
[03:35] <yowshi> yes thats where it has always been
[03:35] <DaSkreech> Huntz: sudo perl -p -i.feisty -e 's/old-releases.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <yowshi> you wantg me to close a window?
[03:35] <DaSkreech> yowshi: No I'm trying to figure out what window manager you are running
[03:36] <yowshi> isnt there a command for that?
[03:36] <Huntz> but its not old releases yet
[03:36] <DaSkreech> Huntz: You did the do-release-upgrade ?
[03:36] <Huntz> I cut and pasted the first repo list in the site because I know it works
[03:36] <DaSkreech> ok just copy that line
[03:36] <DaSkreech> then have feisty-backports
[03:37] <Huntz> well its all the way back to edgy
[03:37] <DaSkreech>  then do a sudo apt-get update to see if it likes you
[03:37] <Huntz> so I have to convert edgy to feisty
[03:37] <DaSkreech> Huntz: What? How are you on edgy ?
[03:37] <DaSkreech> Huntz: lsb_release -a
[03:37] <Huntz> just borrowed the repo list
[03:37] <PSiL0> hmmm, I wonder when ati can come up with decent drivers for linux (specifically for (k)ubuntu).. 9.1 was a disaster for me, 9.2 thankfully fixed most of the really glaring bugs, and xv video output finally looks seamless, but dpms is crippled :(
[03:37] <Huntz> I am still in feisty
[03:37] <DaSkreech> yowshi: not really. ok open a terminal
[03:38] <yowshi> DaSkreech: alt + f3 just popped up some kind of menu
[03:38] <DaSkreech> yowshi: with window behaviour ?
[03:38] <DaSkreech> at the bottom ?
[03:38] <yowshi> DaSkreech: yes
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Ok you are in kwin choose that then play with your effects
[03:38] <PSiL0> back to 8.543 fglrx (10/08 release) which has the flickering bug, but it is still more stable
[03:38] <Huntz> so I am not gonna update apt until I change it to fiesty
[03:38] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Ok
[03:38] <Huntz> or just to gutsy maybe?
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Huntz: No lets do this as slow as possible
[03:39] <PSiL0> I wonder what happened to 8.55x?  must've never made it out of pre-release...
[03:39] <DaSkreech>  I just read the frst line of the instructions
[03:39] <DaSkreech> This upgrade did not go as smooth as I expected.
[03:39] <DaSkreech> Heh
[03:40] <yowshi> DaSkreech: but i dont see any spot for changing what activates any particular effect
[03:41] <DaSkreech> yowshi: When you click window behaviour you get adialog with Desktop effects?
[03:41] <yowshi> yes
[03:42] <DaSkreech> yowshi: you can play with all the effects in the All effects tab
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Where are we now?
[03:45] <Huntz> do-release-upgrade
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Ok
[03:46] <DaSkreech> It's downloading ?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> No errors?
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Huntz: btw did you upgrade the system first?
[03:47] <Huntz> no
[03:48] <Huntz> it doesnt say to do that btween 7.04 to 7.10
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Grr do that first
[03:48] <yowshi> DaSkreech: no scroll wheel for the alt + tab thing?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> where?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Hmm?
[03:48] <Huntz> the EOLupgrade we been using
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Scroll wheel works for me
[03:48] <Huntz> my scolly works
[03:49] <yowshi> DaSkreech: when you alt tab you have the the flip or cover thing but you cant rotate through the optiosn with the scroll wheel. or i cant
[03:50] <Huntz> I know why we didnt need to daskreech, there nothing to upgrade
[03:51] <DaSkreech> ok
[03:51] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Flip doesn't work Cover does
[03:51] <Huntz> do-release-upgrade again?
[03:51] <Huntz> or go with the one I got?
[03:52] <Huntz> bah rolling with step by step
[03:52] <yowshi> DaSkreech: yeah i have cover switch active i was wondering if there was a way to get the scroll wheel to scroll through the availablew windows
[03:52] <SiVA__> how do I make the clock/calendar widget display the time in 12hour format? So simple...
[03:52] <SiVA__> Its the "Digital Clock" widget
[03:53] <yowshi> also where do i change the number of desktops so i can get an actual cube going
[03:54] <DaSkreech> yowshi: I just scroll wheel on the taskbar normally
[03:54] <DaSkreech> Huntz: yeah lets try this step by step
[03:54] <yowshi> thats a bit nifty
[03:54] <yowshi> i need a good minimize effect and there is no burn :(
[03:55] <Huntz> ok up to perl line for changing diesssssty notations to gutsy
[03:55] <Huntz> oops
[03:55] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Yeahno burn
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Hmm?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Right click the desktop pager on the panel and configure desktops
[03:56] <Huntz> ok ready to try frontend distupgrade command again, Cross you fingers and toes
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Huntz: This really shouldnt be this hard :-(
[03:59] <Huntz> there has got to be something missing
[03:59] <Huntz> that is not my fault somewhere
[03:59] <yowshi> how do i get it to let me drag windows from one desktop to another?
[03:59] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know
[03:59] <DaSkreech> yowshi: If you have edge detection just drag to the edge of the screen
[04:00] <yowshi> wheres edge direction?
[04:00] <DaSkreech> hi russlar
[04:00] <DaSkreech> Hold on let me find it
[04:00] <russlar> oi
[04:00] <DaSkreech> Huntz: same error?
[04:00] <yowshi> DaSkreech: draging it to the edge doesnt work it just stop where the cursor stops
[04:00] <Huntz> here Is the distupgrade command http://paste.ubuntu.com/121673/
[04:02] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Advanced -> active Window borders
[04:03] <Huntz> brb smoke break
[04:03] <yowshi> thanks
[04:04] <yowshi> grrr cant drag a window from te 1st desktop to the third ah well
[04:05] <russlar> yowshi: can you use the application icon in the top left corner of the window decoration?
[04:06] <russlar> yowshi: that menu should have "To Desktop" options in it
[04:06] <DaSkreech> yowshi: huh?
[04:07] <yowshi> DaSkreech: i tried to drag a window around the "cube" but it just kept bouncing between 2 deskotps
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Huntz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/121674/
[04:07] <yowshi> and russlar while that may get the job domne it isnt the same thing. for one dragging it there is way cooler
[04:08] <Peeeeeet> Here's another question, kubuntu x86 or 64 bit? I know in windows land, x86 is more mainstream and better for compatibility but is that the same for kubuntu (linux in general)?
[04:08] <DaSkreech> yowshi: hmm how do you have your desktops setup ?
[04:09] <russlar> Peeeeeet: used to be true, but flash now works natively in x64
[04:09] <yowshi> DaSkreech: what do you mean?
[04:09] <Wargasm> try 64 if you don't mind wasting a lot of time.
[04:09] <Wargasm> but if you want it to work without a hitch go with 32bit
[04:09] <DaSkreech> yowshi: How many rows are they in ?
[04:11] <yowshi> i dont know for starters the top desk bar mysteriously got blanked out and now nothing will add to it afyter i moved it to one of the side edges trying to find this menu thing you were tallking about way back
[04:11] <Huntz> DaSkreech: where did you dig that up
[04:11] <yowshi> i was hoping it would settle when i rebooted kdm later
[04:11] <DaSkreech> Huntz: Shhhh the magic man does magic
[04:11] <Slartibartfast> Peeeeeet if you don't have more then 4 GB of RAM there is no need to run 64bit
[04:12] <yowshi> DaSkreech: theyare now in one row
[04:12] <Huntz> lol, so you want me to past that into sources?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> yowshi: ok so just drag from left to right
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Huntz: use that as your sources
[04:13] <Huntz> did it happen to say anything about a patch file
[04:13] <Granny> senility set in - was capable in MIRC - this is first time managed to arrive here
[04:13] <yowshi> DaSkreech: that still just bounces between 2 desktops
[04:14] <DaSkreech> yowshi: ok drag all the way to the bottom of the screen
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Huntz: The sources.list?
[04:15] <yowshi> that works
[04:15] <Huntz> no in paage where you got that
[04:15] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Good
[04:15] <DaSkreech> Huntz: I found someone with a feisty machine and got that from them
[04:16] <khalidmian> how do i connect to konversation using proxy server or do i need quassel for that
[04:17] <khalidmian> ?
[04:17] <faileas> khalidmian: depends on the kind of proxy you want
[04:18] <khalidmian> http
[04:18] <faileas> http is a protocol on its own, as is irc
[04:18] <faileas> so... no, you can't i think
[04:19] <russlar> !irc
[04:19] <russlar> well, that didn't help
[04:19] <russlar> !irc proxy
[04:19] <russlar> !proxy
[04:20] <russlar> !proxies
[04:20] <faileas> khalidmian: what do you need to do?
[04:20] <khalidmian> eh ....hide my ip for eg
[04:21] <faileas> erf...
[04:21] <faileas> then i have no idea
[04:21]  * faileas would generally use proxies to get around blocks ;p
[04:22]  * socceroos_ watches proxies to fight against each other - the pulse of awakening.
[04:22] <Huntz> blah
[04:22] <bishopz> -yawns-
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Huntz: blah?
[04:23] <Huntz> DaSkreech: smaething
[04:23] <DaSkreech> samething
[04:23] <DaSkreech> ah ok
[04:23] <russlar> *
[04:23] <Huntz> the upgrade tool must be fualty also
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Huntz: what was the steps you did?
[04:24] <Huntz> from the top
[04:24] <Huntz> put in the repo
[04:25] <Huntz> changed old-releases to archive like it says
[04:25] <yowshi> hmmm fiefox titlebar is now blocking the tabbed window bar. i know i saw a fix option for this where was it
[04:25] <Huntz> the archive to security for security like it says
[04:25] <Huntz> and fiesty to gutsy like it says
[04:26] <Huntz> then from the tmp file the distupgrade like it says
[04:26] <Huntz> and it all end in the same stuff
[04:26] <yowshi> how do i turn off kwin?
[04:27] <bishopz> hes not on my bl
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Huntz: You did sudo update and sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> yowshi: in favour of what?
[04:28] <yowshi> DaSkreech: as in when i am done playing with it turn it off
[04:28] <yowshi> DaSkreech: in case of glitch or whatever
[04:28] <russlar> yowshi: you can turn off composting (kwin) in the desktop section of System Settings
[04:28] <Huntz> yes
[04:28] <DaSkreech> yowshi: In favour of what? :)
[04:28] <russlar> yowshi: there's a widget available that puts an on/off switch on the desktop
[04:29] <DaSkreech> yowshi: It's a window manager if you just turn it off you can't move any windows
[04:29] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Do you want to turn off the special effects?
[04:29] <yowshi> DaSkreech: in favor of the default manager
[04:29] <DaSkreech> kwin is the default manager
[04:29] <russlar> kwin is the default manager
[04:29] <russlar> if you want to turn off the effects, you can do that in system settings
[04:29] <yowshi> didnt i have to kind of turn it on to get any effects with kwin --replace?
[04:29] <russlar> !kwin
[04:30] <russlar> gfd!!!
[04:30] <yowshi> yes how do i turn off the effects
[04:30] <russlar> under desktop
[04:30] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Thats cause you had compiz
[04:30] <russlar> in system settings
[04:31] <yowshi> without going through the lengthly process of deselecting every effect]
[04:31] <DaSkreech> yowshi: press alt+shift+F12
[04:31] <russlar> there's a checkbox right at the front
[04:31] <DaSkreech> yowshi: Turns off everything till next reboot
[04:31] <DaSkreech> yowshi: to turn of everything until you say when just uncheck desktop effects
[04:32] <yowshi> where the heck was that fire fox fix *grumbles*
[04:32] <russlar> yowshi: which one?
[04:32] <russlar> the scrollbar fix?
[04:33] <yowshi> the titlebar fix
[04:33] <russlar> ?
[04:33] <russlar> didn't know there was one
[04:33] <yowshi> well the firefox titlebar is covering up the tab bar
[04:33] <russlar> never seen that before
[04:35] <yowshi> i saw it mentioned sowehre in my early wanderingsbut since my firefox worked perfectly i didnt pay much atention to where
[04:58] <bishopz> goodnight to all
[04:59] <bishopz> swee ya tomorrow, most likely
[05:06] <wildbat> hi\
[05:12] <quassel104> codecs!
[05:12] <quassel104> !codecs
[05:13] <gothpaw> Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a USB drive....  See here for details -->  http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html
[05:13] <russlar> what sort of issues?
[05:15] <gothpaw> russlar: too much to put here which is why I added the link to nopaste
[05:15] <Peeeeeet> Did I hear people recommending "Kwin" over compiz?
[05:15] <russlar> Peeeeeet: yes
[05:16] <russlar> gothpaw: can you summarize?
[05:17] <gothpaw> russlar: sure, drive wont mount and gives me errors
[05:17] <russlar> what sort of usb drive?
[05:17] <russlar> stick or hard drive
[05:19] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: leave out the -t
[05:19] <Peeeeeet> ah, but only for KDE 4+
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Peeeeeet: compiz isn't that good a window manager
[05:20] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: ok I'll try that now
[05:21] <jose> hi
[05:22] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: removing the -t means I have to remove the vfat as well, else it mount just tells me the proper way to use the commands, and removing -t vfat just tells me I must specify the filesystem type
[05:22] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: ah try -t auto
[05:23] <brad__> how can i get kde 4.2 ?
[05:23] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: -t auto says I must specify the file system type
[05:24] <russlar> brad__: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[05:24] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: ok
[05:24] <jose> well from synaptic
[05:25] <jose> any know how kerel compile 2.6.28
[05:25] <brad__> no idea when they will be in the main resp ?
[05:25] <gothpaw> !kernel
[05:25] <DaSkreech> brad__: When Jaunty ships
[05:25] <russlar> they won't
[05:25] <russlar> not in ibex
[05:25] <brad__> ah
[05:25] <russlar> they'r ein backports now
[05:25] <russlar> i think
[05:25] <jose> ok thanks
[05:26] <gothpaw> jose: see the ubottu msg
[05:26] <jose> i will see
[05:26] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: what does dmesg say?
[05:29] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: dmesg is huge, is there something particular I should paste at nopaste?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: not sure. what ever happens when you try mount
[05:33] <brad__> that was fast
[05:34] <brad__> I'm going to test the new kde 4.2 now
[05:34] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: not sure what I'm looking for but so far I dont see anything relating to mounting the ISB drive
[05:34] <gothpaw> err, ISB=USB
[05:38] <gothpaw> DaSkreech:  not sure if this helps -->  http://rafb.net/p/DGMYFq42.html
[05:40] <brad__> it say's I've got packages held back.
[05:40] <brad__> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2, trying to install kde 4.2
[05:41] <DaSkreech> brad__: which ones?
[05:41] <russlar> ignore them
[05:41] <brad__> looks like core kde
[05:42] <DaSkreech> you did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:42] <brad__> no, I'm only trying to install kde 4.2 from 4.1 in interpid
[05:43] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: ok I think all I saw was the drive get recognized at the end.
[05:44] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: What are all those device not accepting address errors?
[05:44] <brad__> of course I've ran it NOW that you mentioned it
[05:44] <DaSkreech> brad__: :-) What did it say?
[05:45] <brad__> now it's only hold back one.
[05:45] <brad__> gwenview
[05:46] <russlar> ignore that
[05:46] <russlar> htere's a new gwenview
[05:46] <russlar> you can remove gwenview, then upgrade
[05:46] <brad__> cool, what's it's package name ?
[05:46] <russlar> gwenview
[05:46] <brad__> not orginal
[05:47] <russlar> it'll get the rigt one after you upgrade
[05:47] <brad__> I have to unstall or it's automagic
[05:47] <cupcake_> Does ubuntu have a rc.conf file? I'm looking for my current system config
[05:47] <skept> KDE sucks!
[05:47] <skept> jks
[05:49] <russlar> cupcake_: which part of the system config?
[05:49] <russlar> cupcake_: startup services?
[05:49] <cupcake_> russlar: modules/daemons
[05:49] <russlar> cupcake_: /etc/modprobe.conf
[05:50] <russlar> cupcake_: runlevel
[05:50] <cupcake_> xorg.conf also seems minimal for my laptop..
[05:50] <russlar> thel ls -l /etc/rc{that runlevel}.d/
[05:50] <cupcake_> Id like to know how the keyboard/mouse is made
[05:50] <russlar> ibex doesn't use xorg.conf
[05:50] <cupcake_> ohh.. I'm generally an ARCH user
[05:51] <russlar> no worries
[05:51] <russlar> i spend my days in RHELHELL
[05:54] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: yea, think I pasted it wrong, sorry... as for all the other devices not accepting addresses, I have no clue what to say about that as all other devices are working on the box
[05:54] <DaSkreech> looks like the Mouse
[05:55] <cupcake_> Sorry, where abouts is the X conf hiding?
[05:55] <socceroos_> cupcake_: its not used
[05:59] <DaSkreech> cupcake_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:00] <cupcake_> DaSkreech: I doubt it. thats pretty much empty...
[06:00] <DaSkreech> cupcake_: That's the file. Xorg is downplaying it
[06:01] <cupcake_> well, I'm interested in what mouse options are used. anyone aware of that location?
[06:02] <dash84> sup
[06:02] <dash84> 2 da east side
[06:04] <DaSkreech> cupcake_: Same file
[06:08] <dash84> gay
[06:11] <Wargasm> just finished installing kde 4.2
[06:11] <Wargasm> so far it looks fantastic
[06:11] <Wargasm> visually it's a lot better than 4.1
[06:12] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: still can't find anything relevant in the dmesg, but I did find this at the end of kern.log -->  http://rafb.net/p/fxt9MM94.html
[06:13] <ScottK-laptop> ping ScottK
[06:20] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdd1
[06:21] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: ok... gave me 2 lines of txt
[06:21] <PSiL0> !fglrx
[06:21] <PSiL0> !snack
[06:22] <gothpaw> DaSkreech:  line1 = dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN   line2 = Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 234.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: can paste those here I think
[06:22] <DaSkreech> 2lines shoudln't be bad
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:27] <gnuman_> hei guy, I'm unable to install google toolbar in firefox
[06:32] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: What did you use to get those lines ?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> the same command I gave ?
[06:33] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: yes exactly as you posted to me
[06:34] <wildbat> question: how do i set the power button to show a shutdown menu instead of shutting down ?
[06:35] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: http://rafb.net/p/PjqtqJ21.html
[06:35] <DaSkreech> gothpaw: and it won't automount or be forced to mount?
[06:36] <gothpaw> DaSkreech: nothing I have thrown at it will mount it
[06:36] <gothpaw> forgive the terminology :)
[06:37] <sorset> hi, i cant change the clock of system... "Unable to contact time server: north-america.pool.ntp.org." why?
[06:37] <gothpaw> sorset: have you tried a different ntp server?
[06:38] <sorset> gothpaw: yes
[06:39] <sorset> i have same error change when i unckeck "Ser date and time automaticly" !!
[06:40] <travis_> Hello.
[06:40] <travis_> I am new to KDE and having some trouble.
[06:40] <gothpaw> sorset: not sure what to say there. The reason I asked that was I had the same issue once, but changing the ntp server fixed it for me
[06:40] <travis_> When I change my resolution all of the fonts have become huge.
[06:41] <gothpaw> travis_: if it is a KDE issue I would first try asking in #KDE
[06:41] <travis_> ok, thank you gothpaw.
[06:42] <gothpaw> :)
[06:42] <sorset> gothpaw: i'm not using automatic set,
[06:43] <sorset> but it says "Unable to contact time server: ."!!
[06:43] <sorset> and dont specify any server!
[06:44] <navetz> hey guys
[06:44] <navetz> i have a weird issue
[06:44] <navetz> where my background wallpaper wont change
[06:44] <navetz> it says I am using a different wallpaper
[06:44] <navetz> but its still the old one
[06:45] <navetz> any ideas on how to fix it?
[06:46] <gothpaw> navetz: well the wallpaper I would imagine would be related to the desktop your using (if KDE try in #KDE if gnome try in #Gnome ... etc)
[06:47] <navetz> k thanks
[06:47] <gothpaw> sorset: have you tried setting the time/date with the "date" function in a console?
[06:48] <sorset> gothpaw: no , now, w8
[06:49] <sorset> gothpaw: !! Mon Feb 23 10:18:43 IRST 2009
[06:49] <jessie> !!
[06:49] <gothpaw> sorset:   man date
[06:50] <sorset> gothpaw: what you mean?
[06:51] <sorset> gothpaw: can i change date?
[06:51] <gothpaw> sorset:  open your console and type in  'man date' ... without the '' of course... this will tell you how you can manually change the time/date using the date function
[06:52] <wildbat> question: how do i set the power button to show a shutdown menu instead of shutting down ?
[06:52] <sorset> gothpaw: ok, i'll try
[06:53] <MasterMMX> HI ALL ROOM
[06:59] <gothpaw> wildbat: more details please.... which desktop, which power button, etc...
[07:00] <wildbat> KDE 4.1 , power button of pc or laptop >.>
[07:07] <wildbat> i see ~ i will take a look on that
[07:07] <gothpaw> wildbat: you could also try using kpowersave (apparently it has a feature for changing the button configurations)
[07:07] <gothpaw> wildbat: don't quote me on that though, just going from memory
[07:07] <gothpaw> :)
[07:07] <wildbat> kk
[07:08] <wildbat> and how do i fix the lidbutton for my laptop ? it won't work before i do suspend to RAM once.....
[07:09] <zeltak> hi, is just in my computer that the pager boxses are alwaus empty (no desktop number/name) or is this a known bug?
[07:10] <mikorn2> Anyone have experience installing a Brother printer on 8.10?
[07:10] <gothpaw> wildbat: that I am unsure of, sorry
[07:11] <gothpaw> zeltak: have you setup your pager to show the name/number?
[07:11] <zeltak> yup
[07:11] <gothpaw> odd
[07:11] <zeltak> but no matter what i choose the tiny boxes are empty
[07:12] <zeltak> yeah strange..o h well at least i know its not aknown bug thx :)
[07:12] <zeltak> will wait for kubuntu juanty to see if its fixed...come to think of it it happens on my laptop to...so i guess its some kinda bug
[07:13] <gothpaw> well, I'm gone for the night....
[07:33] <Wargasm> anybody know if x-fi cards truly work in ubuntu yet?
[07:34] <StR|Sangreal> hello... my boot is slowed down due to an non-critical error and i have no clue what is wrong... could pls someone attend this?
[07:34] <Wargasm> StR|Sangreal: when does the error come up?
[07:35] <StR|Sangreal> well i use kubuntu, cca at the 30% of the bootscreen it switches into tty prompt and stays there until launching of kdm
[07:36] <StR|Sangreal> and the error is right after some kernel check or so if i properly understand. yet the fact why does the bootscreen not continue is odd, but i think there is some failure that could be fixed
[07:37] <Wargasm> hmm, ive never come across that. did you install something on the third party/unsupported repos?
[07:38] <StR|Sangreal> yes i did
[07:38] <Wargasm> i haven't had very good luck when doing that...probably depends on what it is though
[07:38] <Slartibartfast> StR|Sangreal: maybe "/var/log/messages" gives some more info .....
[07:39] <StR|Sangreal> but i think that this error ocurred after a system crash not an installation of restricted sw
[07:40] <Slartibartfast> "some kernel check or so" is not really helpful in determine what might be wrong
[07:40] <Wargasm> see what the log says, might give you enough info to  see what caused it
[07:40] <kingtiger_> anyone know anything about syncing the a windows mobile pda?
[07:43] <kingtiger_> or a "not fully set in Hal" error
[07:43] <Slartibartfast> StR|Sangreal: maybe remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line in your /boot/grub/menu.lst will give you also more info during the boot process what might go wrong
[07:46] <StR|Sangreal> Slartibartfast ok i will pastebin the log... i said i dont know how to treat such problems, i use linux just for usual work
[07:47] <Slartibartfast> StR|Sangreal: ok ... not sure if i can be of help, but will take a look
[07:47] <QWonder> hi, i just installed 8.10 and i'm having some video problems. i have an agp nvidia 5200 card and at first i did not have resolutions above 800x600 available so i installed the restricted drivers, now i only have 640x480 and 320x240 as available
[07:50] <QWonder> i was using ubuntu, installed 8.04 and updated to 8.10 and didn't have problems with either of those
[07:54] <SuperMoot> is it possible to use wget for --load-cookies file along with --http-user=user --http-password=pass , and have it login to two places (one with the cookie) and the other site with the user:pass ?
[07:55] <SuperMoot> oops
[07:55] <StR|Sangreal> Slartibartfast : http://paste2.org/p/152423
[08:12] <arshad> HI
[08:12] <arshad> what is DSL Damn Small LInux
[08:12] <arshad> ??
[08:13] <Slartibartfast> !dsl
[08:13] <Slartibartfast> hehehe
[08:13] <Slartibartfast> not that
[08:14] <Slartibartfast> DSL is a damn small linux as far as i know ... :-) ..... a distribution to fit on a business card sized cd
[08:14] <arshad> what r d advantages
[08:15] <Slartibartfast> under the 50MB
[08:15] <Slartibartfast> it's memory usage is also small
[08:16] <Slartibartfast> But more comprehensive info about DSL you'll find on http://damnsmalllinux.org/
[08:18] <arshad> tks
[08:18] <kingtiger_> so anyone know anything about syncing kubuntu and windows mobile
[08:19] <kingtiger_> I'm getting a "not fully set in Hal" massage
[08:20] <Slartibartfast> personally i like thai massage more :-P
[08:22] <kingtiger_> ya me to much more relaxing then trying to find a salution to a computer problem that seems to be shared by me and um me
[08:22] <arshad> DSL on usb pendrive n dsl on cd are two different options . . . . . . . . ???
[08:22] <dash84> :/
[08:22] <Slartibartfast> i don't have a win-mob phone ... but maybe this thread helps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-954103.html
[08:23] <kingtiger_> thanks
[08:24] <arshad> Help plzz. . . . . . . . . .   is DSL avaliable for download
[08:24] <Slartibartfast> ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-3.x/
[08:28] <arshad> tks
[08:30] <noaXess> in which package is the mail command included?
[08:31] <Slartibartfast> mailutils ?
[08:31] <noaXess> Slartibartfast: aha.. :) thanks.. simple :)
[08:32] <Slartibartfast> np
[08:39] <thedark> hello everyone
[08:40] <thedark> I get the following error whenever I try to start mnemosyne:
[08:40] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121718/
[08:42] <tedy> good morning ladyes
[08:42] <thedark> I have uninstalled and reinstalled it
[08:42] <thedark> I still get the same error
[08:43] <QWonder> hi, i'm having a problem where my resolution is very limited in 8.10 with an nvidia card and the restircted drivers, can someone please help me?
[08:43] <cairo> hey all
[08:43] <tedy> hello
[08:43] <tedy> cairo
[08:43] <cairo> download your hardware drivers
[08:44] <tedy> what for drivers
[08:44] <cairo> I was talking to Qwonder
[08:44] <QWonder> no
[08:45] <cairo> You need to go under system
[08:45] <kingtiger_> thanks for the link Slartibartfast. had i bunch of info including some people that had the same problem but noone ever gave any idea how to fix it
[08:45] <cairo> then administration
[08:45] <cairo> then hardware drives
[08:45] <QWonder> i have found various forums postings where people have the same problem in 8.04 and 8.04 ubuntu, i had the newest restricted drivers installed, i tried an older version but they do the same thing
[08:45] <cairo> have you restarted your computer
[08:46] <QWonder> cairo: that sounds like it's for ubuntu, i don't have a hardware drivers section there?
[08:46] <QWonder> either way, i already have the restricted drivers installed
[08:47] <cairo> well i had to rstart my computer after I installed the drivers
[08:47] <cairo> what version of linux do you have
[08:47] <Slartibartfast> kingtiger_ ... welcome ... i did see there was also a special channel for the software they spoke of
[08:48] <QWonder> well, so did i
[08:48] <QWonder> thanks for being so eager to help
[08:48] <cairo> lol sorry i was probably more of a pest then a help then
[08:49] <SmokeyD> hey people I just get a bunch of kde updates in Kubuntu, but they cause digikam to be removed due to update of libexiv2. Digikam seems to depend on the old version, which is removed with the update. Does this mean digikam is not part of Kubuntu anymore?
[08:49] <doktoreas> hello everybody..after today update all my plasmoid are gone
[08:49] <doktoreas> it says that can't find "frame"
[08:49] <cairo> no clue
[08:50] <Wargasm> SmokeyD, doktoreas, i had something similar happen
[08:51] <Wargasm> i had to change the session to console, and then had to do a "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:51] <Wargasm> after i upgraded everything worked fine, before that, nothing showed up when i logged in
[08:51] <Wargasm> try doing an update through console
[08:51] <thedark> I cannot get mnemosyne to start
[08:51] <doktoreas> Wargasm: ok!
[08:51] <thedark> nobody here uses this program?
[08:52] <sujr> hi! is ubuntu using /dev/dsp for audio input and output or output has i different device name?*
[08:52] <cairo> anyone know how to find other channels other than looking through a web list
[08:54] <thedark> god in heaven why are my problems always so unsolvable... everybody else gets a suggestion so quickly, but I always have to wait hours until one guy has some vague idea that usually doesn't pan out
[08:55] <Wargasm> cairo: yeah are you using konversation?
[08:55] <Rioting_pacifist> nothing will run this morning, last thing i did was install some tools and run prelink, (but ive run prelink -ua since) yet just about everything is segfaulting on me
[08:55] <cllaudyu> thedark you arent the only one
[08:55]  * thedark hadokens Kubuntu
[08:55] <Rioting_pacifist> thedark: whats your problem?
[08:56] <thedark> I can't get this program called mnemosyne to start
[08:56] <thedark> I uninstalled and reinstalled
[08:56] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121718/
[08:56] <thedark> there is the error I get
[08:56] <cllaudyu> what is it for? thedark
[08:56] <Wargasm> cairo: go to window, click on channel list near the bottom.
[08:56] <thedark> it is an SRS, a spaced-repetition-system
[08:57] <cllaudyu> thedark and you get only errors?
[08:57] <thedark> you make flash cards, and it schedules how frequently to repeat their appearance based on how well you remembered the answers
[08:57] <thedark> right, it doesn't even start
[08:57] <thedark> it was working recently
[08:57] <cairo> hmm on Konversation Application or different IRC
[08:58] <Wargasm> on Konverstaion
[08:58] <Wargasm> xchat also has a channel list feature
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> !channels
[08:58] <cllaudyu> thedark, i can say that i have a similar problem... after using programs they stoped responding...
[08:59] <QWonder> how do i change from my monitor being pnp to generic?
[08:59] <thedark> I am using it to well that is something
[08:59] <thedark> lol forgot I had started a sentence
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> QWonder: isnt pnp generic?
[09:00] <QWonder> what? pnp isn't picking up my monitor, and i believe that may be why i'm so limited on resolutions, how do i manually set my monitor model?
[09:02] <ibuffy> what's a pts for?
[09:22] <ibuffy> does kubuntu have a ipvs enabled by default?
[09:24] <ben_glaz1> I cant get past the login screen in intrepid/kde4.2 this morning.  I think I did a package upgrade the last time i used it.   I have tried apt-get update, etc, and I have tried mv ~/.kde to ~/.kdebak, can anybody help me please?
[09:26] <Rioting_pacifist> all my programs keep segfaulting, i think it may be due to file corruption (my laptop is pretty screwed) how can i check which files i need to reinstall
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> QWonder: have you installed video drivers?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: can you log in as another user?
[09:28] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip: I am the only user setup up on the machine
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: then drop to root recovery console and make a new one
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: its just to test
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: i'd read dmesg | tail when it next happens, you can also check your hdd and memory to make sure they are ok
[09:32] <thedark> okay I fixed mnemosyne
[09:32] <Rioting_pacifist> ActionParsnip: dmesg just shows the segfaults, the HDD is ok (for now, the slightest movement can make it unreachable, but if the laptop is stable the HDD will stay readable)
[09:32] <thedark> but I have another lingering problem....
[09:33] <thedark> ever since I upgraded from Kubuntu 8.04, all videos in all programs have a slight hiccup every ten seconds or so
[09:33] <thedark> any idea how to fix this?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: is your ram healthy?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> thedark: have you installed codecs?
[09:36] <Rioting_pacifist> ActionParsnip: only way to check that is running memtest from grub right?
[09:37] <thedark> no
[09:37] <cllaudyu> can someone tell me why is plasma crashing so often? i disabled almost every graphics but it's stil crashing
[09:37] <thedark> how do I know which to install/use?
[09:37] <thedark> I mean it is for every video
[09:37] <thedark> even flash videos in websites
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: yeah its part of grub
[09:38] <cllaudyu> how can i disable moause effects?
[09:38] <thedark> and I know it isn't power issue, I never had this problem in previous versions of kubuntu
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> !codecs
[09:38] <cllaudyu> to put graphics to zero
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> cllaudyu: systemsettings
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> cllaudyu: mouse is my guess, or desktop effects maybe
[09:39] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip: ok, i created new user, and got a different result, this time instead of returning to login straight away, this time i get kwin (x-window-manager) crashed.
[09:39] <cllaudyu> i can't find desktop effects
[09:40] <cllaudyu> i mean mouse effects
[09:40] <cllaudyu> only for mouse pointer
[09:40] <cllaudyu> i did not found anything
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: it may not be named "mouse effects" exactly
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> cllaudyu: see above
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: sorry dude wrong target
[09:41] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip: second time, it is just as before, straight back to login
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: ok drop to root console: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kwin
[09:42] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip: ok, i try that
[09:47] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip: sorry, reinstall kwin did not work
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: did it actually reinstall though?
[09:48] <ben_glaz1> yes
[09:49] <RiotingPacifist> ActionParsnip: memtester (testing all my freemem isnt showing any problems with ram) i will reboot and use the utility from grub but i think my memory is fine.
[09:49] <RiotingPacifist> *reboot later
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> RiotingPacifist: only one way to know for sure
[09:58] <eddie_> hi..all.. i have a problem here.. i have connected my lap to internet through gprs connection and the connection is working fine .. but the page is not loading in konquerer
[09:58] <eddie_> can abybody help me
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> eddie_: is konqueror et to offline mode?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> *set
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> eddie_: can you ping sites by name, can you ping this ip: 30.99.130.180
[10:00] <eddie_> yes the page is loading through w3m browser
[10:01] <thedark> okay I have all the codecs it says to install already
[10:01] <thedark> just to recap, all videos hiccup every 10 seconds or so
[10:01] <thedark> it is very slight, but annoying
[10:01] <thedark> every video from flash videos to avi in mplayer
[10:01] <eddie_> how to change the mode  of konquerer
[10:01] <thedark> I have all the codecs installed
[10:01] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip:  kwin (4:4.2.0-0ubuntu~1intrepid1~ppa7) was replaced from the package kwin_4%3a.4.2.0-0ubuntu~1intrepid1~ppa7_amd64.deb
[10:02] <ibrar> d
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> eddie_: http://fixunix.com/suse/260500-konqueror-offline-mode.html
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: ok, if you install a different DE, like fluxbox is it ok
[10:04] <Azazel_Pazuzu> guten tag
[10:04] <Azazel_Pazuzu> sprechen Sie deutsch?
[10:06] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip: euh.  now i am getting "could not resolve gb.archive.ubuntu.com" on apt-get install fluxbox.  Should I manually edit the sources.list?
[10:07] <ben_glaz1> that was   gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid universe
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: should be fine, I use the same and use fluxbox
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: if you are at the log in screen you can change to a command line login then run startx from there
[10:09] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip:  x starts but goes no further showing an x, thats it
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: then its loading
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: have you checked your drive for errors and checked your ram for errors?
[10:11] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip: can I do that from the command line
[10:11] <ben_glaz1> how?#
[10:13] <lokai> can I get libx11-devel through apt?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: bring up logon window, bottom right buttons one will say command line login, login there then type: startx
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: if it crashes you will get info onscreen
[10:14] <ben_glaz1> I get nothing, except an x cursor
[10:14] <ben_glaz1> and mesh background
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: ok try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: then restart x
[10:17] <Rioting_pacifist> I ran the 1st 4 memtests and they all came back ok, but it would take hours to do all of them on the entire range, and i need to use my laptop today
[10:18] <lokai> ah, its just called libx11-dev ;)
[10:21] <matt> Can someone answer a quick question? Using KDE 4, read that slideshow wallpapers were possible in KDE but can't find how to do that. Any help?
[10:22] <Rioting_pacifist> my hdds gone again need to reboot brb
[10:22] <shryke2a> hello, is thunderbird able to open a linuxmail mailbox?
[10:24] <dim3dro1> hi all
[10:24] <dim3dro1> I'm running kubuntu 8.10
[10:25] <dim3dro1>  "/etc/rc2.d/S20kde-guidance: 31: /usr/share/python-support/guidance-backends/displayconfig-hwprobe.py: not found"
[10:25] <dim3dro1> what does this message mean?
[10:25] <dim3dro1> it appears on startup
[10:27] <matt> config-hwprobe.py file is missing, patch is available at http://patch-tracking.debian.net/patch/series/view/kde-guidance/0.7.0-1/12_force_python2.4_script.diff
[10:31] <matt> any help on the slideshow wallpapers>
[10:31] <matt> ?
[10:39] <matt> anyone?
[10:42] <shyke2a> one
[10:45] <franic> hi all
[10:45] <RiotingPacifist> im getting "0x0000003000009a1a in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" from gdb, hwo do i reinstall ld-linux-x86-64.so
[10:46] <RiotingPacifist> ubottu: ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[10:47] <matt> Can someone please tell me how to do slideshow wallpapers? I can't find the plugin that forums keep saying I need, can't find the settings to enable it. Can someone please tell me where this is?
[10:48] <RiotingPacifist> matt kde4 or kde3?
[10:49] <RiotingPacifist> in both i think its just an option for bkground apearance though
[10:49] <matt> kde4
[10:49] <matt> cant find the option for it
[10:50] <matt> installed ubuntu with gnome then installed kde and switched to kde, but still looks the same with different apps installed. is that normal or did i fuck something up?
[10:50] <RiotingPacifist> i dont have kde4 atm but last time i was in 4.2 it was under apearance when you right click on the peanut in top right
[10:51] <sorteal> matt : Do you mean it still looks like gnome
[10:51] <matt> yes, thats what i mean. sorry if i wasnt clear, been up for awhile
[10:51] <sorteal> did you install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[10:51] <sorteal> or just straight kde
[10:52] <sorteal> Another question (may sound like a stupid one) did you switch your session at login to kde?
[10:53] <matt> sudo apt-get install kde-nightly, whichever that installs. still really new at this, sorry for the lack of info. when i installed that package i checked the box that made kde default at startup then rebooted
[10:54] <Riddell> you still need to select kde at the login screen (from the session menu)
[10:55] <matt> really, bc the kde login screen came up and it booted into kubuntu instead of ubuntu. did i really just miss an option box at login?
[10:55] <sorteal> I'd install the kubuntu-desktop package and then make sure you have kde selected at login
[10:56] <matt> how do i install desktop package?
[10:56] <sorteal> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:57] <matt> thanks for the help sorteal
[10:57] <sorteal> np
[10:57] <sorteal> wait what ubuntu version
[10:57] <sorteal> 8.10?
[10:57] <matt> yes, 8.10
[10:57] <sorteal> k
[11:09] <dim3dro1> matt: how can I apply this patch?
[11:10] <dim3dro1> should I download sources and unpack?
[11:11] <dim3dro1> can anyone help me, how can I apply this patch: http://patch-tracking.debian.net/patch/series/view/kde-guidance/0.7.0-1/12_force_python2.4_script.diff ?
[11:12] <PhilippeP> is there a way to redirect the text output of the 'kcmshell4 display' to a file  ?? the > does not work :(
[11:13] <earle> Hey peeps. My Weather Forecast plasmoid's been broken since 4.2. Is there a known fix?
[11:19] <kalum__> Hello, I am running  kubuntu latest version with kde 4.1.4. I am very satisfied with it overall, except one problem, when i try to play divx movies with mplayer or any movie player for that matter, the movie misses a few FPS every 10 seconds or so, ie there is a sudden pause in playback. could anyone tell me why this is the case?
[11:23] <PhilippeP> kalum__: it could be a lot of things
[11:23] <kalum__> hmm..no response to my question about skiiping full screen movie playback under kubuntu :-(
[11:23] <kalum__> Aha.....i spoke too soon :-)
[11:24] <PhilippeP> kalum__: does it only happens full screen ??
[11:24] <kalum__> PhilippeP: Well my computer is upto the task speed wise, 1gb of ram, and 1.8 ghz dual core CPU which should be suffiecient, the chipset is a intel  945GM/GMS
[11:25] <kalum__> It only happens in full screen, windowed it runs perfectly
[11:25] <sorteal> Are you running any kind of desktop effects
[11:26] <kalum__> Just the default desktop effects that the native install of kubuntu would have, nothing else enabled, just a vanilla kubuntu install
[11:26] <kalum__> Kubuntu has enabled the 3d accelerated effects if that it what you meant...
[11:27] <wers> fonts on my gtk apps on kde 4.2 dont render like my kde apps and how they do on gnome. how do i fix this?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:27] <sorteal> Try turning that off I've noticed mplayer and vlc tend to get "choppy" even on fast machines when in fullscreen with effects running
[11:28] <StR|Sangreal> hi i need to install following package to my kubuntu intrepid with kernel .27 and kde42 but i cannot handle source codes... pls some advice?
[11:28] <StR|Sangreal> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=89304&forumpage=1&PHPSESSID=cae
[11:28] <sorteal> I think it's more a compiz-fusion issue than mplayer, vlc, or kde issue
[11:28] <PhilippeP> kalum__: you can try desactivating compositing before viewing : Alt+Shift+F12
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: theres a deb for it: http://danakil.free.fr/linux/packages/panelspacer-plasmoid-intrepid-0.1_i386.deb
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> sorteal: thats common
[11:29] <StR|Sangreal> ActionParsnip > i use amd63
[11:29] <sorteal> what's common
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> sorteal: compiz borking stuff
[11:29] <kalum__> ok......thx, I will try that......
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: i see
[11:29] <sorteal> yeah I've kinda noticed that lol :)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:30] <PhilippeP> kalum__: same keystroke to reactivate after ! :)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: and you can compile the source
[11:31] <kalum__> PhilippeP: Thanks very much, If i may not trouble you once more, is there anyway to autohide the panel in 4.1.4 or should i update to  4.2 using the PPC debs
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: if you'd read down a bit you would have seen tis: http://smihael.bplaced.net/plasmoids/binary/panel-spacer_0.1-1_amd64.deb
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: ;)
[11:31] <StR|Sangreal> pls offtopic: my kde launcher is messing up, it doesnt display all suitable results, icons are overlaping and e.g. i sometimes canot run opera via altF2
[11:32] <StR|Sangreal> 0.1 is buggy, its not compatible with kde42
[11:32] <PhilippeP> kalum__: no for 4.1.4 , for 4.2 activate intrepid_backports 4.2 is in it now !
[11:32] <StR|Sangreal> have tried
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: good
[11:32] <kalum__> Thanks very much
[11:33] <PhilippeP> you're welcome
[11:33] <StR|Sangreal> can sb advise me for this? :pls offtopic: my kde launcher is messing up, it doesnt display all suitable results, icons are overlaping and e.g. i sometimes canot run opera via altF2
[11:33] <StR|Sangreal> * : Pls
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> StR|Sangreal: try finding where the config file for the launcher is an rename it
[11:35] <StR|Sangreal> ok i get the idea but i have no clue where it usually is
[11:36] <StR|Sangreal> build-essential is in latest version; build-essential is set to manual installation... what now?
[11:37] <boubbin> !kde4
[11:37] <boubbin> i cant have 4.2 in hardy ?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> boubbin: sure
[11:39] <boubbin> any walkthrough of installation, i would like to install it beside oh kde3
[11:39] <boubbin> i couldnt find any relevant guides with google...
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> boubbin: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/tag/ubuntu-hardy-install-kde-42/
[11:41] <boubbin> nice, thanks.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> np
[11:48] <boubbin> well i cant find the package kde-nightly
[11:48] <boubbin> but i can just select the "kde4" and it will also install all the dep's ?
[11:49] <boubbin> 179 deps, 199mb
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> yes the package managers will install any required deps
[12:06] <vmt1> Hello all :) I tring iptables and I want to forward only google.de. with -d google.de it isnt working. Which parameter I have to use? Or is not possible with DNS- names? Can someone help?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !iptables
[12:07] <felix46> hii
[12:07] <DarkED> question. if i've added the kde4.2 repo, updated apt list, and did an update using adept, i should have kde4.2 on next login?
[12:08] <felix46> how can i go to irc of ubuntu in spanish?
[12:08] <bazhang> !es
[12:08] <felix46> !es
[12:08] <felix46> join
[12:08] <felix46> thx
[12:09] <DarkED> felix46: type /join #ubuntu-es :D
[12:09] <felix46> i went to ubuntu-es, thanx ^^
[12:10] <felix46> is posible change the language of Konversation?
[12:12] <felix46> is posible change the language of Konversation?
[12:17] <white_hatr> hello
[12:17] <felix46> hi
[12:17] <thais> hi
[12:18] <sujr> hi! do twinkle sip can call from pc-to-pc?
[12:18] <thais> from were you are?
[12:18] <felix46> yes
[12:19] <felix46> you can use openwengo
[12:19] <felix46> is a sustitute of skype
[12:19] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip:  I managed to get fluxbox installed ->> Couldnt connect to Xserver.  I did a apt-get remove nvidia-glx-177 to see if i could start xserver with foss drivers.  But, now im stuck for ideas again.
[12:19] <thedark> all videos skip slightly about every 10 seconds... youtube, avis, mpegs, I have all the media codecs installed... any ideas?
[12:19] <thedark> I have Kubuntu 8.10
[12:19] <felix46> this use the system of VoIP
[12:19] <thedark> Intrepid
[12:19] <thedark> never had this problem with previous versions
[12:20] <white_hatr> anyone know when Ubuntu 9.10 will be officially released?
[12:20] <ben_glaz1>  I managed to get fluxbox installed (for testing)->> Couldnt connect to Xserver.  I did a apt-get remove nvidia-glx-177 to see if i could start xserver with foss drivers.  But, now im stuck for ideas again.
[12:21] <downandout> hello all
[12:21] <downandout> is there any software applet for ubuntu that displays a word a day in the taskbar or something along those lines?
[12:22] <downandout> like a vocabulary trainer ?
[12:23] <thedark> so no ideas about what could cause videos to skip?
[12:23] <downandout> many things depend on video
[12:24] <thedark> the strange thing to me is that it is _all_ video...  youtube, daily motion, avis on my hd, everything... and it is very slight, but relatively frequent
[12:24] <thedark> high res, low res, everything
[12:24] <thedark> in VLC, Mplayer, Dragon player... everything
[12:24] <white_hatr> does the audio also skip?
[12:24] <thedark> and I didn't have this problem in previous versions
[12:25] <thedark> nope
[12:25] <thedark> audio is fine
[12:25] <white_hatr> hmmmmmmmmm
[12:25] <AndrewMohawk> hi, i have an ATI card, lspci says "VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]", i just got a 24" widescreen, but when setting the resolution to "1920x1200" the image is very distorted
[12:25] <AndrewMohawk> under hardware in kubuntu the gfx driver is "fglrx" and monitor is "LCD Panel 1920x1200 (widescreen"
[12:25] <white_hatr> i had a similar problem about skipping video but the aduio too was skipping
[12:25] <AndrewMohawk> anyone have any idea how i can fix this?
[12:26] <downandout> thedark: are you sure you have your drivers for your video card properly installed?
[12:26] <thedark> no
[12:26] <thedark> how do I check?
[12:27] <white_hatr> Ati or nvidia
[12:27] <white_hatr> or intel
[12:32] <thedark> you there downandout?
[12:32] <Silver22> afk
[12:32] <downandout> thedark: what type of video card?
[12:33] <thedark> hmm what is the CLI command to get my hardware profile?
[12:34] <thedark> found it
[12:34] <downandout> lspci
[12:35] <thedark> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[12:36] <downandout> ok are you using compwiz?
[12:36] <thedark> is that not what I am looking for>
[12:37] <thedark> ni
[12:37] <downandout> compiz :)
[12:37] <thedark> no
[12:38] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121803/
[12:38] <thedark> I typed that in that is what I got
[12:39] <downandout> compiz doesn't like your card
[12:39] <yaa_> what's up
[12:39] <downandout> apparently its blacklisted
[12:39] <thedark> ?
[12:39] <thedark> what?!
[12:40] <DarkED> in konversation how do i configure proxy settings? i just cannot find it
[12:40] <kar> hi. i want to return from suspend without unlocking with my password the session. What could i do?
[12:41] <thedark> so what does that mean?
[12:41] <ben_glaz1> Intrepid/kde4.2.  I got serious problems logging into kde.  Kde login screen comes up as normal, but nothing else happens except jumps straight back to login screen.  I have tried to install fluxbox as a test, and it retruns couldnt connect to  xserver
[12:41] <khalidmian> i seem to have issues with java under firefox in kubuntu any help/assistance the system shows that i do have sunjava as i did install kubuntu extras
[12:42] <ben_glaz1> I have added a new user.  Run apt-get update, dpkg reconfigure xserver.  Nothing seems to work.
[12:42] <DarkED> brb
[12:43] <thedark> damn its rush hour in this room
[12:43] <downandout> http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_7.10/Issues/Compiz_Fusion_965GM_Incompatibility
[12:43] <downandout> the dark read that link
[12:44] <thedark> okay I read it
[12:44] <Walzmyn> kar those settings are in system settings, i'm not sure where
[12:45] <kar> Yes, i checked there but nothing happens. i tryed everything in login manager
[12:46] <AndrewMohawk> i seemed to have got mine working by using the ATI driver rather
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:51] <thedark> so I don't get it
[12:51] <thedark> will creating that file and adding that line of text fix my video problem?
[12:52] <thedark> do I have to install a distro with a different window manager?
[12:52] <thedark> I didn't have this problem in 7.10
[12:55] <ben_glaz1> ActionParsnip:  Please, can you help me again? I am still having problems.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: ask away, the room will answer
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> ben_glaz1: dont target me just because i'm here
[12:57] <ben_glaz1> i installed fluxbox as requested.  on startfluxbox  i get could connect to xserver
[12:57] <ben_glaz1> Earlier i  removed the nvidia-glx-177 i thought that might be causing problems
[12:57] <ben_glaz1> looking at xorg.log, everything seems ok using the nv driver
[12:58]  * thedark ddts this new kubuntu that has been nothing but trouble from day 1
[12:58] <ben_glaz1> startx just gives me the same blank screen with an x cursor
[12:58] <thedark> ugh I had that exact same problem Ben
[12:58] <sujr> hi! i'm compiling twinkle and got this error: configure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3where should i change this? i'm using ubuntu 8 hardy
[12:58] <thedark> I had to do a complete reinstall
[12:58] <thedark> nobody here was able to help me, though one dude tried
[12:59] <ben_glaz1> thedark: i was hoping not to hear that. euh
[12:59] <thedark> sorry, maybe somebody else will have a solution, but I hung out here for almost two days and it was the best I could do
[13:00] <ben_glaz1> i am on day 2.  I have tried everything i can think of.
[13:00] <thedark> upgrading to 8.10 has been such a pain, so many problems that I didn't experience from 7.10 to 8.04
[13:00] <thedark> inlcuding THE SKIPPING VIDEOS ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[13:01] <ben_glaz1> thedark: everything was fine saturday night, started up on sunday, and no kde
[13:01] <thedark> ah well that is different
[13:01] <ben_glaz1> other than login screen
[13:01] <bazhang> turning off effects generally fixes skipping videos
[13:01] <thedark> my problem was right after upgrading
[13:01] <thedark> how do I turn off effects, even youtube videos skip
[13:01] <ben_glaz1> ahh, i did an update on saturday.
[13:02] <thedark> yeah same as me then
[13:02] <bazhang> what version of kde4
[13:02] <ben_glaz1> using the update manager, that why i removed the nvidia glx drivers.  I thought they might be causing the problem
[13:02] <ben_glaz1> intrepid with 4.2
[13:03] <bazhang> the experimental one?
[13:03] <ben_glaz1> thedark: did you update on saturday too?
[13:03] <sujr>  i'm compiling twinkle and got this error: checking value of $QTDIR... not setconfigure: error: Set $QTDIR to the Qt directory, eg. /usr/lib/qt3hi!where should i change this? i'm using ubuntu 8 hardy
[13:03] <ben_glaz1> bazhang:  i am not sure.  I guess it is.  As per kubuntu website (ppa7?)
[13:03] <khalidmian> i seem to have issues with java under firefox in kubuntu any help/assistance the system shows that i do have sunjava as i did install kubuntu extras
[13:03] <bazhang> ben_glaz1, yep
[13:04] <thedark> no
[13:04] <thedark> this was weeks ago
[13:04] <ben_glaz1> thedark; right, ok
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> sujr: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2006/04/msg00033.html
[13:06] <thedark> so bazhang, any other ideas about the videos?
[13:06] <bazhang> thedark, flash? or others
[13:06] <thedark> everything!
[13:06] <bazhang> thedark, which apps if others
[13:06] <thedark> that is what is so weird
[13:06] <thedark> flash videos, avis on my hd, DVDs
[13:06] <rpfr> hi
[13:06] <thedark> everything does that slight hiccup every 10 seconds
[13:07] <rpfr> system found the webcam
[13:07] <bazhang> which apps to run them thedark
[13:07] <rpfr> but not working in skype
[13:07] <thedark> try installing skype-static
[13:07] <thedark> you have to add the medibuntu repositories
[13:07] <thedark> I had this problem just two days ago
[13:08] <thedark> make sure you have the right qt libs installed as well
[13:08] <thedark> google that stuff, some helpful threads should show up with the details
[13:08] <thedark> but if you have skype-static and/or the right qt libs installed, that should fix it
[13:09] <thedark> I have tried everything
[13:09] <thedark> vlc, dragonplayer,mplayer,xine
[13:09] <rpfr> I will try thanks
[13:09] <thedark> kaffeine
[13:09] <ben_glaz1> ok guys, looks like i need to wipe and reinstall.  I got console access and network connection.  What the best way to backup my home dir?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !players
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> thedark: we have a factoid for that
[13:10] <thedark> I have the codecs installed
[13:10] <thedark> I went through that before with another guy
[13:10] <darkenergy> !codecs
[13:10] <thedark> I don't have any problem with audio
[13:11] <thedark> yes I bookmarked the common tasks page
[13:11] <thedark> and I have the codecs installed
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> so wassup?
[13:11] <thedark> they all show up as installed in synaptic
[13:11] <thedark> I don't know!
[13:11] <thedark> all videos hiccup
[13:11] <thedark> it is super slight
[13:12] <thedark> but it is getting annoying
[13:12] <shadeslayer> thedark: tried vlc yet??
[13:12] <thedark> I didn't have this problem
[13:12] <thedark> I am running VLC as we speak
[13:12] <bazhang> are the vids on another drive
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> thedark: have you installed video drivers for your graphics card?
[13:12] <thedark> like I said, I have tried almost every player
[13:12] <shadeslayer> and it hiccups?? yeah i had that problem
[13:12] <thedark> it could be a driver problem
[13:12] <thedark> skips, whatever
[13:12] <shadeslayer> nope,just restart
[13:13] <shadeslayer> works for mr
[13:13] <shadeslayer> *me
[13:13] <thedark> yes, videos on my hd, flash
[13:13] <thedark> everything
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> thedark: you could renice the player app
[13:13] <thedark> okay its been a problem from day 1 with Kubuntu 8.10
[13:13] <thedark> if restarting fixed it, I wouldn't have a problem
[13:13] <thedark> renice?
[13:13] <shadeslayer> how do i force a mount of a NTFS partition??
[13:13] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> thedark: ok i'll fill you in
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> thedark: all processes have a nice value
[13:14] <shadeslayer> like i said it worked for me
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> the default is 0
[13:14] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with a resolution problem? I have a laptop with 9600M and dual head setup.  Each screen/display has its own desktop with its own launcher/K-menu (using kubuntu).  My external monitor is the problem.  I want to set the resolution to 1280x1024.  Using xrandr on that screen shows maximum of 1024x768 resolition.  I know this monitor does better than that, in fact it was set way higher than that by accident once.  Here are m
[13:14] <JuJuBee> astebin.com/m5e50de95
[13:14] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: nice value ?? lol
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> lower makes the app get more cpu time, higher it gets less
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: read and learn
[13:14] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:14] <shadeslayer> okie
[13:15] <thedark> I see
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> thedark: the lowest nice value you can get is -20 which will put 100% of system into the one process and will cause a tonne of problems
[13:15] <thedark> okay I high prioritied it
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> thedark: the highest is 20 where its practically ignored by the cpu
[13:15] <thedark> I don't see a number scale
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> thedark: by giving a nice value of say -5, the cpu will give it  little more power and hopefully will iron it out
[13:16] <thedark> I see a cpu scheduler and an i/o scheduler
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> thedark: its a command line command
[13:16] <shadeslayer> he did ctrl+esc
[13:16] <thedark> ah... there is renice option in the system monitor
[13:16] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: any idea how to force mount a drive
[13:17] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> thedark: renice -n -5 <pidofvlcplayer>
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: what filesystem, what dev and what mountpoint
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> thedark: obv you'll have to work out the pid first
[13:17] <shadeslayer> NTFS,/dev/sda3,mount point i do not know
[13:18] <thedark> okay
[13:18] <thedark> how do I do that?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: ok i'll make one up
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> thedark: pidof vlc
[13:19] <thedark> wow so simple, amazed :)
[13:19] <shadeslayer> thanks
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: sudo mkdir /media/sda3; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /media/sda3
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> thedark: it is in linux
[13:20] <shadeslayer> both commands?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> thedark: once you run that command i gave with renice it will give vlc more cpu time
[13:20] <darkenergy> should you be creating folders in /media?
[13:20] <thedark> it tells me that isn't the proper usage
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: its the command you need, copy it in one and paste to terminal
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> thedark: what is the pid?
[13:20] <thedark> renice priority [-p|--pid] pid [... pid]
[13:21] <shadeslayer> the command was
[13:21] <shadeslayer> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 -o force
[13:21] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:21] <thedark> but I still don't get what to type
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> thedark: renice -n 5 -p <pidyoufound>
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> oops
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> make that 5 a -5
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: sure, you dint say you wanted ntfs3g, you may need some extra options
[13:22] <ActionParsnip>  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 -o force,uid=1000
[13:22] <thedark> still gave me the usage list
[13:22] <shadeslayer> ?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: makes it user writable
[13:23] <thedark> and I don't see a difference in the cpu % in the system monitor
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> thedark: what command are you using exactly?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> do i run the command again??
[13:23] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:23] <shadeslayer> i get it
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> thedark: it wont increase in there, its not labouring the system, but the process will be attended more often
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> thedark: can you give me the command you used please
[13:25] <shadeslayer> i need to unmount the device first
[13:25] <shadeslayer> whats the command for that
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: sudo umount /media/sda3
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> thedark: try: renice -5 -p <the pid>
[13:25] <shadeslayer> thanks
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> thedark: or try it with sudo
[13:26] <thedark> okay that last one worked
[13:26] <thedark> no sudo needed
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> thedark: good enough
[13:27] <thedark> thank you
[13:27] <thedark> but it is still skipping
[13:28] <thedark> I changed it to -10
[13:28] <thedark> same problem
[13:28] <thedark> sound is fine
[13:29] <thedark> GOD this is so frustrating
[13:29] <thedark> but I do appreciate your help
[13:29] <darkenergy> thedark: have you got enough RAM?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> thedark: if you run ps -ef | grep vlc
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> thedark: is the 4th column your nice value, just curious
[13:30] <hacker> 中文频道吗？
[13:30] <bazhang> !cn
[13:30] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121827/
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> thedark: try closing vlc
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> thedark: nice -7 vlc
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sets its nice value at startup
[13:34]  * thedark nods
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> any better
[13:35] <thedark> nah it didn't work
[13:35]  * ActionParsnip used to renice nspluginwrapper to get better performance in flash before 64bit flash
[13:35] <thedark> I mean videos are watchable, it is just annoying
[13:35] <thedark> and sound is fine
[13:35] <thedark> but no change
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> then its the video codec, have you been into vlc's settings to play around
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> thedark: are you running compiz?
[13:36] <thedark> I don't see how that could be it, seeing how flash videos and videos in other players skip as well
[13:37] <thedark> uhm, I dunno
[13:37]  * shadeslayer wonders why his USB speed is 909 kBps
[13:37] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:37] <bazhang> turning off effects usually fixes that
[13:37] <shadeslayer> no effects
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> thedark: do you use that retarded desktop cube and all the bells and whistles that makes your computer look "pretty"
[13:37] <thedark> no
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> good
[13:38] <bazhang> referring to thedark 's issue
[13:38]  * ActionParsnip hates beryl almost as much as Apple
[13:38] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:38] <thedark> I actually toned down that crap because it was giving me tons of issues
[13:38] <bazhang> turn it off completely
[13:38] <thedark> crashing and such
[13:38] <shadeslayer> looks that the force mount reduced speed
[13:38] <thedark> I have Desktop effects set to No Effects
[13:38] <darkenergy> thedark: hardware specs?
[13:38] <bazhang> how much ram,etc
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> and cpu speed
[13:39] <thedark> how do I get a list of all that?
[13:39] <thedark> I mean I have my comp documentation
[13:40] <darkenergy> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> thedark: dont you know your system spec, like cpu speed and ram
[13:41] <darkenergy> "free" shows how much ram you've got and how much is used. and swap too
[13:41] <bazhang> is this a wubi install?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> oh i hope not
[13:41] <thedark> brb
[13:42] <bazhang> heh
[13:42] <darkenergy> someone is being evasive
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> or use: cat /proc/meminfo
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> bit more info
[13:43] <bazhang> still can't figure out how to add the little icons to my kde4 panel :)
[13:43] <darkenergy> ActionParsnip: he's gone
[13:43] <bazhang> ie firefox, terminal etc
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: drag them from kmenu
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: make sure they are unlocked first
[13:45] <darkenergy> anyone figured out ad-hoc networking yet?
[13:45] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: np man
[13:45] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121846/
[13:45] <thedark> there is my cpu info
[13:45] <thedark> I got 2 gigs of ram
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> should be fine
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> thedark: you could apt-build vlc
[13:46] <thedark> ???????????
[13:46] <thedark> but man, what about flash videos and all that
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> thedark: it wil compile the softwre using deb-src
[13:46]  * shadeslayer is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop :)
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> thedark: flash videos use a flash plugin for your browser
[13:46] <thedark> right, but they have the same problem
[13:46] <darkenergy> thedark: cat /proc/meminfo
[13:46] <thedark> how would apt-building vlc fix that
[13:47] <shadeslayer> btw gnome will use the same kernel,configs,etc as Kubuntu right??
[13:47] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121849/
[13:47] <thedark> meminfo
[13:47] <bazhang> thedark, is this a wubi install?
[13:48] <thedark> I don't even know what a wubi install is
[13:48] <bazhang> thedark, or inside a vm?
[13:48] <thedark> nah no vm
[13:49] <bazhang> how many processes do you have running thedark
[13:49] <thedark> 130
[13:49] <shadeslayer> thedark: did you try reinstalling VLC??
[13:49] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:50] <bazhang> thedark, any memory intensive ones?
[13:50] <thedark> top 3 are firefox, xorg, and python
[13:50] <thedark> 58,36, 13 M
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:51] <thedark> I don't see why it would be a specs problem unless KDE 4.1 is really that big of a problem
[13:51] <thedark> as I didn;t have this issue in previous versions of kubuntu
[13:51] <thedark> and upgrading has made me miserable ever since
[13:51] <shadeslayer> how do i change nvidia's power management
[13:52] <bazhang> thedark, what video card, what drivers, and how installed
[13:52] <shadeslayer> like its set to max performance right now
[13:52] <thedark> I didn't install any video drivers
[13:52] <shadeslayer> i want to set it to powersave,the video card
[13:52] <thedark> just what came out of the box, plus the media extras stuff
[13:52] <thedark> to watch dvds and videos with codecs and all that
[13:53] <shadeslayer> any idea??
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> thedark: you will need video drivers installing and configuring to get a smooth display
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> thedark: lspci | grep VGA
[13:54] <shadeslayer> !nvidia | thedark
[13:54] <shadeslayer> :D
[13:54] <shadeslayer> ubotu seems extremly slow today
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> !botsnack
[13:54] <bazhang> ubottu lag
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> he's ok
[13:54] <shadeslayer> :)
[13:54] <shadeslayer> maybe
[13:54] <shadeslayer> im installing ubuntu so maybe
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> thedark: what does that output?
[13:55] <thedark> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[13:55] <shadeslayer> stupid card is heating to much
[13:55] <shadeslayer> IGP yayy
[13:56] <shadeslayer> no card :)
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> thedark: there are some xorg.conf snippets here for your card, it uses the intel driver which comes with a default install https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/120834
[13:57] <JuJuBee> Any opinions on nVidia 9650M vs. 9800M ?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !ot | JuJuBee
[13:57] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: ##hardware
[13:57] <shadeslayer> ;)
[13:59] <thedark> so I don't have to fiddle with the drivers, just the xorg.conf file?
[14:00] <maartenw> hi, I've a problem with bluetooth support
[14:00] <maartenw> I'm running kubuntu 8.10
[14:00] <shadeslayer> maartenw: go ahead
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> thedark: correct you already have the driver installed in a package
[14:00] <maartenw> with all recent updates
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> thedark: !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:00] <JuJuBee> I was more concerned about which card is better supported with kubuntu than which card works better for graphics.
[14:00] <maartenw> and kdebluetooth
[14:00] <maartenw> 0.3
[14:00] <shadeslayer> maartenw: even with KDE 4.2??
[14:00] <maartenw> yes
[14:00] <maartenw> I can send files
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | JuJuBee
[14:01] <maartenw> I can make a NAP connection
[14:01] <maartenw> but I cannot receive files
[14:01] <maartenw> the other device is a wm 2003 ipaq
[14:01] <shadeslayer> did you try this??
[14:01] <maartenw> I had the same problem with the gnome utils
[14:01] <shadeslayer> did you try this??
[14:01] <shadeslayer> !bluetooth
[14:01] <shadeslayer> oops
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> maartenw: i have that too, i think the gnome one is ok but you'll need to install the GTK
[14:02] <thedark> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:02] <shadeslayer> ive not even tried bluetooth since its been fixed lol
[14:02] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: no mention of 9650, that's why I asked here.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: let me websearch
[14:02] <JuJuBee> I will aks elsewhere.
[14:03] <thedark> well I am confused and exhausted
[14:03] <shadeslayer> sooooooo
[14:03] <thedark> I'm gonna hit the sack and get back on this tomorrow
[14:03] <thedark> maybe I just need to try Xubuntu, this new KDE stuff is just trouble :(
[14:03] <pinpower> wtf
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: seems supported by the 180 driver but i'd probably go for the official nvidia driver
[14:03] <pinpower> whats going on
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> thedark: you just need video drivers configuring
[14:04] <JuJuBee> You mean the 9650?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: yeah seems that way
[14:04] <maartenw> shadeslay: I know the things mentioned on the webpage you mentioned
[14:04] <shadeslayer> :) then no idea
[14:04] <thedark> okay I bookmarked that page
[14:04] <thedark> tgabjs again AP
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> np man
[14:04] <thedark> thanks
[14:05] <thedark> best of luck in all of your computing
[14:05] <thedark> farewell #kubuntu
[14:05] <maartenw> might obexpushd be needed for receiving files?
[14:05] <maartenw> it is not a requirement for kdebluetooth4
[14:05] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: what did you search for? I can;t find anything specific.
[14:06] <maartenw> shadeslayer: might obexpushd be needed for receiving files?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: nvidia 9650 nvidia-glx
[14:07] <shadeslayer> maartenw: you certainly have to use that,i think'
[14:11] <felix46> hello
[14:12] <shadeslayer> !hi | felix46
[14:13] <shadeslayer> XD
[14:14] <JuJuBee> Thanks ActionParsnip.  Seems the 180.22 drivers supports the 9800M GS as well which is a common GPU for laptops.
[14:14] <niKubuntu> hi
[14:14] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: 180 :O
[14:15] <JuJuBee> ?
[14:15] <shadeslayer> nothing beyond 177 here
[14:15] <JuJuBee> Why?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: then you got a winner
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-glx-180
[14:16] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: in restricted drivers i dont have 180
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> its in intrepid too
[14:16] <shadeslayer> my ' 7 ' key seems to be stuck
[14:17] <felix46> how can i colour my nick on irc?
[14:19] <shadeslayer> haha something was stuck below ' 7 '
[14:19] <shadeslayer> felix46: please please use #defocus and #freenode for such queries
[14:20] <felix46> chanel defocus?
[14:21] <shadeslayer> !defocus
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> haha its a random chat room for idle natterings
[14:22] <shadeslayer> ubottu: damn you
[14:22] <shadeslayer> XD
[14:22] <felix46> i can't join to defocus
[14:23] <shadeslayer> felix46: you have to wait for a voice
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> felix46: try: /j #defocus
[14:23] <felix46> [15:22] <felix46> hi
[14:23] <felix46> [15:22] [404] #defocus Cannot send to channel
[14:24] <shadeslayer> yeah,you have to wait for the beautiful antiope to voice you
[14:24] <felix46> ahhh
[14:24] <felix46> okok thx
[14:24] <felix46> i understand
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> !password
[14:31] <lorelei> hi lols i am a gnom user
[14:31] <lorelei> ha ha kedofils
[14:31] <shadeslayer> lorelei: welcome to the candy world
[14:31] <shadeslayer> ;)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> no candy here
[14:31] <shadeslayer> *eye candy
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> kde, but not kwin
[14:31] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:32] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !hi | lorelei
[14:33]  * shadeslayer thinks he lost one chance to !hi
[14:33] <khalidmian> how can i install webdwing font under open office in kubuntu
[14:33] <shadeslayer> :(
[14:33] <shadeslayer> khalidmian: System settings>install font maybe
[14:34] <shadeslayer> khalidmian: find it??
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> !font
[14:38] <bishopz> Morning :D
[14:41] <akventure> how do i move a file from one directory to another in an ubuntu terminal?
[14:42] <akventure> http://imagebin.org/39099
[14:42] <arshad> Help PLzz. . . . . .  . . . . .  .    mouse is not working in Damn Small LInux DSL bootable from CD on start
[14:42] <akventure> i want to move the .avi from its current directory to ~/Desktop
[14:42] <shadeslayer> mv old path new path
[14:43] <shadeslayer> !konsole | akventure
[14:43] <shadeslayer> all commands there
[14:43] <akventure> ty
[14:43] <akventure> will do some dilligence
[14:44] <shadeslayer> np
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> arshad: read dmesg | less to see why
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> arshad: and this is ubuntu support, not DSL support
[14:44] <shadeslayer> anybody know a good imaging software
[14:45] <shadeslayer> k3b wont read my DVD
[14:45] <arshad> any self help sites for DSL. . . . . . .
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: can you clarify "imaging"
[14:46]  * shadeslayer has shown the height of dumbness
[14:46] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: nm, i was opening " Copy CD" for a DVD
[14:46] <shadeslayer> XD
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> oops
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ok so whats this of "imaging" or is it related to the above muckup?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> well i wanted to make a ISO
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> dd if=/dev/scd0 of=~/image.iso
[14:48] <shadeslayer> so instead of a DVD i chose a CD in k3b
[14:48] <shadeslayer> and i was copying a DVD
[14:48] <shadeslayer> i like GUI's
[14:49] <shadeslayer> :O
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> damn battery
[14:49] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: that you??
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> yeah
[14:49] <shadeslayer> :)
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> shadeslayer: battery dies
[14:50] <shadeslayer> hehe,6 cll??
[14:50] <shadeslayer> *cell
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> dell d420, no idea
[14:50]  * shadeslayer has a 9cell battery,never dies
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> its my work lappy, its ok
[14:50] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip1: you didnt join my channel ##Dell,:(
[14:50]  * shadeslayer is sad
[14:51] <shadeslayer> ty
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> anyhoo, yeah you can access /dev and output to a file to make an iso
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> using dd
[14:52] <shadeslayer> im learning konsole step by step,no high tech stiff right now
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> its hardly high tech
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> wait til you meek awk, sed and grep
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> that gets mesy
[14:53] <shadeslayer> hehe
[15:00] <maco> a few days ago, plasma wouldn't start. ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc seems to hold the problem (moving mine out of the way fixed it). i'm trying to figure out what setting broke plasma (debugging), so i've been bzr'ing the file and copying over little bits of the config at a time to see to get a diff where it breaks. can anyone help me figure out which part of this diff is the cause?
[15:01] <linex> Testing
[15:02] <arshad> do we have a chatting room with preferences or likes
[15:02] <arshad> ???
[15:02] <arshad> in IRC
[15:03] <jussi01> arshad: err, what do you mean?
[15:03] <arshad> i mean chats based on locations or preferences or people
[15:04] <arshad> to make friends
[15:04] <arshad> to network
[15:04] <jussi01> !channels
[15:04] <maco> my current plasma-appletsrc is http://paste.ubuntu.com/121892/ and the diff that got it there is http://paste.ubuntu.com/121891/
[15:09] <maco> i moved the panel's screen edge (manually, couldnt figure it out in the config file) and changed the geometry of showdesktop to be on the other side of quicklaunch (by copying the geometry from my broken config). lots of geometries changed seemingly on their own though. should messed up geometries cause plasma not to start though?
[15:15] <arshad> invite
[15:15] <setpass> hi
[15:15] <setpass> ops
[15:15] <setpass> how i can change my pass?
[15:16] <LjL>  /msg nickserv help set
[15:17] <bdr__> ok
[15:18] <felix46> its shows info
[15:18] <felix46> but i don't understand how use this
[15:18] <bdr__> hi, i have problem with kubuntu
[15:20] <sujr> hi! what are the command line sip on linux which can have 3 way conference?
[15:20] <arshad> how do i join this forum  #ubuntu-in @ irc.freenode.net
[15:21] <arshad> ??
[15:21] <casimodo> #ubuntu-fr
[15:22] <vmt1> !nagios
[15:22] <bader-alfa> i make k run for usb but when start kde desktop i get weird pixle on scrren, and nothing happen
[15:23] <felix46> hi
[15:23] <bader-alfa> i make k run from usb but when kde desktop start  i get weird pixel on screen, and nothing happen
[15:26] <slow-motion> hi
[15:29] <jussi01> Hi all. trying to make kmail system tray entry only display new messages from the inbox (ie. it currently shows unread ones elsewhere... like in trash). anyone know how to acheive this?
[15:30] <shadycyborg> any idea when KDE 4.3 will be out,an ETA perhaps??
[15:32] <shadycyborg> nm
[15:39] <linex> shadycyborg: I think at the earliest July with rc in June.
[15:39] <shadycyborg> linex: talking in #kde
[15:39] <shadycyborg> they told me everything
[15:39] <linex> oh
[15:39] <linex> shadycyborg: what did they tell you. I'm interested too .
[15:40] <shadycyborg> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Feature_Plan
[15:40] <shadycyborg> feature plan
[15:40] <shadycyborg> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule
[15:40] <shadycyborg> release plan
[15:41] <arshad> hi
[15:41] <shadycyborg> !hi
[15:41] <linex> thanks
[15:41] <shadycyborg> Telepathy-specification compliant Account Manager using KWallet to store account data
[15:41] <shadycyborg> :O
[15:43] <ubuntu_> hi everyone
[15:44] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to installa Kubuntu on my laptop....
[15:45] <shadycyborg> ubuntu_: and??
[15:45] <ubuntu_> I start it with kubuntu dvd in live mode and then install...
[15:45] <shadycyborg> yes
[15:45] <ubuntu_> but to have someproblem ...
[15:45] <shadycyborg> which is
[15:45] <shadycyborg> ubuntu_: get to the problem
[15:46] <ubuntu_> ok ,nowI'm trying again ...., it was just froozen ....
[15:46] <ubuntu_> well actually just the installation ....
[15:46] <shadycyborg> XD
[15:47] <ubuntu_> ok right now is Calculatingfiles to skip copying 15%
[15:47] <shadycyborg> ubuntu_: if youre sure youre gonna install then simply use the second option during boot
[15:47] <ubuntu_> and looks it's stopped there ....
[15:47] <ubuntu_> so is better to do wothout live ?
[15:47] <shadycyborg> yeah
[15:48] <shadycyborg> less of a hassle
[15:48] <ubuntu_> ok , and I'll get the same tools to do partiotion hopefully !?!
[15:48] <kaddi> hi, i'm trying to set a symbolic link, so that i can simply enter "l" instead of "ls -l"... but i can't seem to find the right command to do that... i don't see how to add the option to the link
[15:49] <shadycyborg> ubuntu_: everything will be same
[15:49] <shadycyborg> just no live session
[15:49] <shadycyborg> or IRC
[15:49] <ubuntu_> ok thanks, I'll try
[15:49] <shadycyborg> thats the only downside
[15:49] <shadycyborg> np
[15:49] <shadycyborg> ubuntu_: be sure to upgrade to 4.2
[15:50] <shadycyborg> afterwards
[15:50] <shadycyborg> XD
[15:50] <mefisto__> kaddi: you mean an alias?
[15:50] <kaddi> mefisto__ possibly.. what does this do? i tried to use ln, but that didn't work
[15:51] <mefisto__> kaddi: a link is like a file that points to another file or folder
[15:52] <rain> Doe anyone know why i have such problem?
[15:52] <rain> rain@rain:~$ su -
[15:52] <rain> Password:
[15:52] <rain> su: Authentication failure
[15:52] <rain> I type right password
[15:52] <kaddi> mefisto__ google says alias is the command i want to be using :D
[15:52] <maco> rain: you set a root password?
[15:52] <jussi01> rain: what are you attempting to do?
[15:53] <rain> and if I try it with other programs  then it works correctly
[15:53] <maco> rain: the root account is locked by default. if you want a root shell, use "sudo -i"
[15:53] <jussi01> rain: sudo -i
[15:53] <rain> I am trying to execute *.sh installer
[15:53] <rain> sec i try
[15:54] <mefisto__> kaddi: if you want l = "ls -l" you would do this: alias l=ls -l
[15:55] <rain> it seems like it works but
[15:56] <mefisto__> kaddi: if you want it to be permanent (that is, you want that alias to work after a reboot) you can create .bash_aliases in your home dir and put all your aliases in that file
[15:56] <rain> root@rain:/home/rain/limewirepro# sh Crossover-Pro-7.0.2.sh
[15:56] <rain> Verifying archive integrity...OK
[15:56] <rain> Uncompressing CrossOver Linux Professional
[15:56] <rain> No protocol specified
[15:56] <rain> Setup requires an X display to run.  There is a display variable set, however
[15:56] <rain> you have no permissions to access the X server (:0.0) it points to.
[15:56] <rain> Try running xhost +localhost before su'ing to root.
[15:56] <jussi01> !paste
[15:57] <mefisto__> kaddi: you could also put your aliases in .bashrc (you probably already have that file in your home dir)
[15:58] <rain> I have problem with installing crossover office
[15:58] <rain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/121910/
[15:59] <rain> what should I do?
[15:59] <kaddi> mefist__ i'm looking at this right now :)
[15:59] <nalvarez> argh
[15:59] <nalvarez> how do I change my screen resolution?
[15:59] <nalvarez> I have a widescreen LCD, but System settings -> Display only shows 4:3 resolutions
[16:00] <nalvarez> everything looks stretched
[16:00] <kaddi> just figuring out what the proposed aliases in bashrc do and if i want to use them :D
[16:00] <nalvarez> highest listed (the one in use) is 1024x768, the LCD native res is 1280x720
[16:03] <mefisto__> kaddi: that example I gave you was wrong. sorry. it would be: alias l="ls -l"
[16:04] <mefisto__> kaddi: you need the quotes to include the space
[16:04] <nalvarez> or use functions instead of aliases
[16:05] <JuJuBee> Where are the KDE focus stealing prevention settings in System Settings?
[16:05] <Zombine> Morning everyone :D
[16:08] <mefisto__> JuJuBee: window behaviour?
[16:09]  * skulev smotrit
[16:10] <Zombine> Does Ubuntu have some daemon that automatically mounts removable media?
[16:12] <JuJuBee> mefisto__: yes, thanks.
[16:14] <rickest> Zombine: yes, autofs.  most desktops include that automatically or you can add it yourself if you're using aminimal desktop
[16:14] <arshad> how do i use command in IRC
[16:15] <rickest> arshad: /help
[16:15] <arshad> burst , closae , cloide, connect
[16:15] <altrortla> !kommander
[16:15] <Zombine> rickest: I see. Thanks
[16:16] <altrortla> there's a tutorial to learn "kommander" application... or a channel?
[16:16] <rickest> Zombine: full-blown desktops (KDE, etc) include that functionality automatically
[16:16] <mefisto__> rickest: do you have autofs? I thought it was HAL that detects removeable media
[16:16] <altrortla> !coffee
[16:17] <slacr> hi
[16:17] <altrortla> hi
[16:17] <kaddi> !hi |slacr
[16:17] <slacr> epic, i have a question regarding a bug with kde4.2
[16:18] <rickest> mefisto__: I think dbus in KDE, yeah.  on my kubuntu box that happens automatically; on other distros I have autofs installed manually
[16:18] <altrortla> anybody has a Kommander tutorial?
[16:18] <slacr> after following the guidelines on the official page for kde 4.2 i ended up with frameless windows that could not be moved, does anyone know what causes this bug?
[16:19] <rickest> slacr: sounds like no window manager is running; i.e., kwin or whatever 4.2 uses
[16:19] <altrortla> #kommander
[16:20] <altrortla> mah..
[16:20] <slacr> hm, okay, is the windowmanager in kde4.2 different from 4.1?
[16:21] <rickest> slacr: I'm not sure if kwin got upgraded or replaced
[16:22] <maco> slacr: kwin
[16:22] <maco> same as always
[16:23] <brad_> I'm looking at downloading the 64bit version, but  I only see it for amd.
[16:24] <slacr> brad_, the amd version supports core2duo and such
[16:24] <brad_> the amd version supports xeon processors ?
[16:25] <SlimeyPete> brad_: it's for AMD64, which is the common name for both AMD64 and EMT64 (intel)
[16:25] <astromme> Yes, it's just named amd because amd invented the technology
[16:25] <brad_> i guess that works.
[16:25] <SlimeyPete> it's just that AMD64 got their 64-bit extensions out into the world before Intel did, so everyone adopted the AMD64 name for all 64-bit x86 processors
[16:25] <shadeslayer> second that
[16:25] <shadeslayer> im using it right now
[16:25] <astromme> and had amd64 processers almost 2 years before intel did... so by the time intel comes out with its tech (based off of amds), everyone was on amd64
[16:25] <shadeslayer> on Intel Centrino
[16:26] <astromme> well Pentium M, eh?
[16:26] <astromme> iirc Centrino is a platform
[16:26] <astromme> like amd Spider
[16:27] <ghostcube> Pentium M != centrino
[16:27] <brad_> I've got 16gig of ram, so I figure a 64bit os would be better than pae
[16:27] <astromme> The Pentium M processor is a required component of the Centrino Platform
[16:27] <spawn57> does intel license the 64 bit extensions from amd?
[16:27] <astromme> again, this is iirc
[16:28] <astromme> spawn57: I think so... but intel/amd cross license so much
[16:28] <spawn57> ahh
[16:28] <astromme> they're pretty much linked at the hip
[16:28] <spawn57> amd doesn't seem to be doing so good lately though
[16:28] <brad_> my new server will be here today
[16:29] <HUALLA> XZ
[16:29] <astromme> eh, it's always in cycles
[16:29] <HUALLA> AUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[16:30] <Slartibartfast> brad_: this link might interest you then http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/08/xeon_amd64_fix/
[16:30] <maco> astromme: i thought centrino was "whatever intel's current cpu line is + whatever intel's current chipset is + whatever intel's current wireless is"
[16:30] <astromme> yes
[16:30] <Slartibartfast> with 16 GB RAM you really need to have a 64bit system
[16:30] <astromme> well, sort of
[16:30] <astromme> for their moble platform
[16:30] <astromme> and it's versioned
[16:31] <zer0o> hi guys, in need of an mp3 and mp4 renamer, a software able to rename LOTS of files (tags included) according to certain parameters, at the same time, could u suggest some? the ones that ive found dont work for mp4 and dont have many parameters to choose among, plus it seems they dont work well with LOTS of files, any suggestions? thanks
[16:35] <mimi> Bonjour
[16:35] <jones> new dolphin on kde 4.2 is so much slower than in 4.1.4, is it possible to install the older dolphin in kde 4.2??
[16:36] <venik> I am resizing a partition on a 500 gb drive (kubuntu 8.10- 64 bit).  It is taking a VERY long time-- saying 0% finished for the last hour.  Is that normal?
[16:37] <venik> 1/3 of the partition has Vista on it, so I do not want to reformat
[16:39] <venik> zero, Isn't mp3tag good for that?
[16:41] <bishopz> -yawns-
[16:41] <bishopz> who knows how to uninstall a program (america online) out of wine
[16:43] <mefisto__> bishopz: do you have a wine submenu in Kmenu? or kickoff?
[16:44] <bishopz> actually im on ubuntu right now
[16:44] <bishopz> but yea theres a submenu
[16:45] <mefisto__> bishopz: is there "uninstall wine software" in there?
[16:45] <bishopz> the thing is, i go to uninstal applications in wine, andd it attempts to look for aol, but i guess because its a virtual
[16:45] <bishopz> it wont find it
[16:45] <bishopz> yea .. it brings up the prompt box "uninstal ..."
[16:45] <bishopz> i click aol, it says searching for versions
[16:45] <bishopz> and than crashes and i have to force quit it
[16:46] <franic> bishopz: have you tried "uninstaller" ?
[16:46] <maco> ...
[16:46] <maco> i'm left wondering why install aol in wine to begin with
[16:46] <maco> s/in wine//
[16:46] <mefisto__> maco: too late now :)
[16:47] <mefisto__> bishopz: if wine doesn't uninstall it, you can remove the installed files from ~/.wine/drive_c (or wherever you've set wine to install things if you changed defaults)
[16:48] <bishopz> because i couldnt find an aol to run on linux
[16:48] <bishopz> lol
[16:48] <bishopz> mefisto__: thank you
[16:49] <maco> bishopz: the s/in wine// was meant to imply "or rather, why install aol at all?"
[16:50] <maco> are they still an ISP?
[16:50] <bishopz> maco: boredom
[16:50] <bishopz> yea they are lol
[16:50] <bishopz> theyre now free
[16:50] <bishopz> ;x
[16:51] <maco> because nobody would pay for their dialup that's half the speed of other dialup and requires software that's harder to remove than your average virus?
[16:51] <bishopz> HaHa. mhmmmm
[17:01] <felix46> hello
[17:04] <felix46> hii
[17:05] <kaddi> !hi @felix64
[17:05] <kaddi> !hi |felix64
[17:05] <felix46> i need translate Konversation, i have file .po of the language, what i did?
[17:09] <bishopz> Ok i removed the folders manually completely uninstalled wine, and wine still shows under applications? wwith AOL
[17:10] <SlimeyPete> did you use adept/apt-get to uninstall wine?
[17:10] <bishopz> no just did it from repos
[17:11] <SlimeyPete> oh... you downloaded the package file manually?
[17:12] <bishopz> mhm
[17:12] <SlimeyPete> if you did that, you need to use dpkg -r to uninstall it
[17:12] <bishopz> let me try hang on
[17:12] <me> if i installed a program from a .deb file how do i remove it?
[17:12] <SlimeyPete> in the future it's best to use adept/apt-get :)
[17:12] <SlimeyPete> me: dpkg -r packagename
[17:12] <SlimeyPete> e.g. dpkg -r wine
[17:12] <SlimeyPete> well, "sudo dpkg -r wine" to be precise
[17:13] <dr_Willis> You mean to say that the applications you Installed with WINE are sjhowing up  in the users menus?
[17:13] <slacr> any of you fellas use MATLAB with simulink regularly in X11?
[17:14] <bishopz> warning: ignoring request to remove wine, only the config
[17:14] <bishopz>  files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[17:14] <Guest42987> ahh.. thank you
[17:14] <Guest42987> wow the .deb package system is by far the best.. had i installed an rpm i would have been stuck forver
[17:15] <Guest42987> i am new to ubuntu came from opensuse and mandriva.. so far it has been wonderful thanks to all your help!
[17:16] <Guest42987> if i download a program that is in a tarball how do i turn it into a .deb so that i can install it
[17:16] <dr_Willis> You would need to compile it  and do a bit of work.
[17:17] <slacr> Guest42987, its likely you must compile it yes
[17:17] <dr_Willis> You dont have to turn it into a deb.. but it may be a good idea
[17:17] <SlimeyPete> Guest42987: that's difficult. Is the program not available via Adept/apt-get?
[17:17] <SlimeyPete> those are the preferred methods for installing things
[17:18] <Guest42987> well it is vuze.. and there is a really old version of it in apt-get.. and the updater is broken
[17:18] <Guest42987> i want to use the newest version and apt only has like 3 in there
[17:18] <SlimeyPete> Guest42987: what version do you want?
[17:18] <Guest42987> i think 4.1 is out now?
[17:18] <SlimeyPete> there's one on getdeb: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Vuze
[17:18] <SlimeyPete> ^^ 4.0
[17:19] <bishopz> ok did dpkg, it still leaves a folder in my applications
[17:20] <bishopz> and aol is still showing even tho the folders have been removed and deleted
[17:20] <SlimeyPete> bishopz: have you tried logging out & back in again?
[17:20] <bishopz> brb
[17:20] <SlimeyPete> that forces a menu refresh, I think
[17:20] <Guest42987> how do i download form that site?
[17:20] <Guest42987> must i sign up?
[17:21] <jals> hi guys i'm getting regular firefox crashes on Intrepid with kde 4.2, anyone else finding this?
[17:21] <SlimeyPete> Guest42987: just click on the 4.0 link next to your version of Ubuntu
[17:21] <SlimeyPete> then click on the download link
[17:22] <PhilippeP> jals: with me it crashes only when I close it so not very annoying
[17:22] <dr_Willis> I recall a lot of people in here the otehr day saying they MUCH perfered the older  vuze,. or whatever it was called befor it became vuze :)
[17:22] <jals> PhilippeP, for me when it does happen i seem to be scrolling with the mouse wheel at the time
[17:22] <SlimeyPete> dr_Willis: Azureus
[17:22] <Guest42987> haha nm i got it.. thanks..
[17:23] <SlimeyPete> it used to be a bittorrent client, now it's an all-singing all-dancing media client that brings your PC to its knees
[17:23] <Guest42987> the older version doesn;t support as many transfer protocols such as freenet
[17:24] <bishopz> nope still a folder there
[17:25] <Guest42987> hmm what was that site you just sent me to? and is it a pretty safe site as far as getting software
[17:26] <Guest42987> i have been looking for some stuff that isnt availabel through apt-get
[17:27] <mefisto__> http://www.getdeb.net/
[17:30] <Guest42987> cool thanks once again for the help guys ubuntu community support rocks!
[17:33] <jals> another problem i'm having is every rar file i download from firefox is corrupt
[17:33] <jals> i think firefox in general is having issues
[17:33] <jals> how can i do a completely fresh install, remove firefox and the .mozilla directory?
[17:36] <dr_Willis> use the package manager to remove firefox.. and delete the users .mozilla directory
[17:36] <dr_Willis> but i find it hard to belive thats the problem
[17:36] <dr_Willis> try a different browser like opera perhaps?
[17:36] <jals> yeah i guess i should test that first
[17:36] <dr_Willis> Where are you saving the rar files to?
[17:36] <jals> desktop
[17:36] <dr_Willis> I also recall some odd rar files i found once that i had to use winrar to exctract
[17:37] <jals> it's been about 5 in a row
[17:37] <mefisto__> try wget
[17:37] <Pici> unrar-free cannot handle multi-part rar files or 3.0 format files.
[17:37] <jals> oh
[17:38] <alarm> hello, i am trying to install the java plugin for firefox. but i do not see any available package with the name sun-java6-plugin . (i got jdk installed , but i do not see anything about the plugin)
[17:38] <alarm> * maxagaz has quit ("Leaving")
[17:38] <Pici> jals: The nonfree(non-open source) unrar tool should be able to open it.
[17:38] <jals> in synaptic?
[17:38] <Pici> !info unrar
[17:39] <jals> cheers, installing now
[17:39] <jals> incidentally the free version didn't seem to be installed either
[17:39] <jals> hey i think that was the answer Pici, thanks!
[17:40] <slcr> while on the subject of rar, how well supported is shell integration?
[17:40] <Pici> I don't know. I don't use KDE.
[17:41] <slcr> brb, xorg restart
[17:42] <slcr> re :)
[17:42] <dr_Willis> wine winrar.exe :P
[17:43] <slcr> that works? (for shell integration?)
[17:43] <dr_Willis> what does 'shell integration' actually mean?
[17:43] <dr_Willis> !info unp
[17:44] <silentx> my os is ubutnu Gnome but i have installed kopete 0.60 and i want to update
[17:44] <silentx> could help me ?
[17:44] <slcr> its like, right-click-drag -> select unrar here in a dropdown menu
[17:44] <slcr> those sort of things
[17:45] <mefisto__> slcr: if I double-click a rar, it opens in ark
[17:46] <slcr> mefisto__: yeah, thats "okay" but comming from a world where you can dragdrop things its still slightly annoying
[17:46] <dr_Willis> I rarely ever extract archives via the GUI. I tend to use the command line and the unp command. :)
[17:47] <slcr> i may get to that stage one day, but it will take some time
[17:47] <dr_Willis> thats 'shell' integeration. :)  heh.
[17:47] <dr_Willis> unp whateverrandiomarchivename.whatever
[17:47] <dr_Willis> :)
[17:48] <jals> now i just need to figure out these constant firefox crashes
[17:48] <dr_Willis> run it from a terminal.. look for error messages
[17:48] <dr_Willis> I would guess flash or java  or javascript to be the blame
[17:48] <slcr> that will still drop it where you're at, which is ok, but wanting it somewhere else, even with the sweet tab shortcuts, takes more time than click done
[17:49] <dr_Willis> i find the gui stuff takes longer.
[17:49] <dr_Willis> :)
[17:49] <dr_Willis> or it uses some lame name.. or it goofs stuff otherwise
[17:49] <silentx> people can you help me :(
[17:49] <dr_Willis> silentx,  what was the actual question. Yiou want to update? update what?
[17:49] <mefisto__> jals: try starting in safemode (no extensions or themes) firefox -safe-mode
[17:50] <alarm> any idea with the java plugin ?
[17:50] <silentx> update Kopete
[17:50] <dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:50] <silentx> while i'm using gnome interface !
[17:50] <dr_Willis> that should get the latest version in the repos.
[17:50] <jals> mefisto__, i don't have any extensions installed
[17:50] <dr_Willis> If you want a newer version then whats in the repos.. thats harder.
[17:50] <jals> but i will run from CL in a minute
[17:50] <silentx> yea that's what i mean
[17:50] <silentx> :)
[17:50] <PhilippeP> silentx: upgrade to wich version ??
[17:50] <dr_Willis> check the PPA repos perhaps.
[17:50] <dr_Willis> !ppa
[17:50] <silentx> 0.70
[17:51] <alarm> !java
[17:51] <alarm> !java-plugin
[17:51] <PhilippeP> silentx: it's in intrepid-backports
[17:51] <silentx> interpid-backports >> what do you mean ?
[17:51] <silentx> i'm new on linux
[17:52] <PhilippeP> silentx: you should activate the intrepid-backports in your repo manager ...
[17:52] <silentx> umm could tell me how :$
[17:53] <mefisto__> !info java-plugin
[17:53] <slcr> in the aptitude package manager you can look for something along the lines of "repositories"
[17:53] <mefisto__> !info sun-java6-plugin
[17:53] <alex_> hi , I just finish to install and update Kubuntu,...... there are few importantrepository to add on the list '
[17:54] <slcr> silentx: there you could find checkboxes for adding addtional repositories
[17:54] <silentx> aptitude >>  i think this on KDE i'm using Gnome :S
[17:54] <alex_> I mean, where I can get a good list of repository for Kubuntu ?
[17:55] <slcr> silentx: you have aptitude on gnome also, it may be called "package manager" or so though
[17:55] <silentstri16> how do I log into my nick again?
[17:55] <PhilippeP> silentx: somewhere in your menu the should be a repository manager or something ...
[17:55] <silentstri> ty
[17:55] <silentx> synapatic pacakage manager :D
[17:56] <slcr> that one it is :)
[17:56] <silentx> oky then ?
[17:56] <silentx> what should i add ?
[17:56] <mefisto__> silentx: look in the settings menu, repositories
[17:56] <silentx> yep i found it
[17:57] <PhilippeP> silentx: there is alsoo a direct entrance to the repo manager but since I'm on KDE I don't know the correct name
[17:57] <silentx> yea i know from the sofware sources
[17:57] <mefisto__> silentx: or better still, settings, preferences :)
[17:58] <mefisto__> silentx: no, that's not what I thought it was
[17:58] <alex_> yeah there is, but if I don't mistake afriend of mine said that there are a lot more repo, to add on the third part software, is right ?
[17:58] <silentstri> how do I log into nickserv again?
[17:58] <silentx> oky i will go to setting , preferences in the package manager
[17:59] <silentx> Then what should i add ?
[18:00] <mefisto__> silentx: kdesudo software-properties-kde (for kde). the gnome equivalent I think is gksudo software-properties-gtk
[18:01] <silentx> already installed :)
[18:01] <silentx> 0.68
[18:01] <silentx> 0.68.1
[18:02] <Silentstri> hello all
[18:03] <Silentstri> anyone can help me with setting up ndiswrapper and a WPC54G driver on my laptop?
[18:05] <slcr> upgrading to kde4.2, wish me luck :)
[18:05] <Silentstri> anyone can help me with setting up ndiswrapper and a WPC54G driver on my laptop?
[18:07] <Silentstri> >.>
[18:07] <Silentstri> ciao then ..
[18:07] <slcr> not sure what that is, sorry :) suppose it has something to do with WLAN?
[18:11] <solifugus> Twice, recently, kubuntu somehow changed my input to as if the shift key were being held down.. and I had to reboot to fix it... loosing work
[18:11] <solifugus> How can I FIX IT IN THE FUTURE>> IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN>  WTF!!!
[18:12] <solifugus> kde4 has serious problems.. now I am typing normal again.. what's going on?
[18:14] <Wargasm> kde4 is working ok for me so far :P
[18:14] <Wargasm> 4.2
[18:15] <mefisto__> solifugus: like the capslock key is on?
[18:15] <Wargasm> lol, that's what i thought...
[18:15] <Wargasm> kde 4 is cruise control for cool
[18:16] <girevikmoto> newbie here
[18:16] <Wargasm> welcome, girevikmoto
[18:16] <girevikmoto> im trying to share a folder on my linux box with my roommates xp box
[18:16] <girevikmoto> ive configured samba
[18:17] <girevikmoto> do i need NFS to export the samba share?
[18:17] <Wargasm> i'm not sure...but you might.
[18:17] <Wargasm> i'm no expert on samba, but i've used it with windows before
[18:17] <solifugus> mefisto__: no.. the caps lock doesn't fix it.. I just noticed that hititng the ! key fixes it, until a minute or so later when it comes on again.
[18:19] <girevikmoto> or rather... ive created the samba share, do i need NFS to export the directory filesystem, or is that a function of Samba
[18:19] <Wargasm> try installing NFS if you don't mind using the space
[18:19] <mefisto__> solifugus: what kind of keyboard? see if there is a keyboard layout that matches your hardware in systemsettings > regional & language
[18:19] <solifugus> I really don't want to switch to gnome, like Linus says he did after realizing how messed up kde 4 is..  but I might have to go back to kde 3.  Linus used to praise kde and criticized gnome.
[18:19] <solifugus> mefisto__: standard u.s. english.. HP laptop..
[18:19] <Wargasm> who cares what linus thinks
[18:20] <girevikmoto> (kde4 is still not worth using? havent tried out the new revision yet...)
[18:20] <Wargasm> kde 4.2 is good so far, i've had it for a couple days
[18:20] <fosco__> kde4.2 is ready for a real use
[18:20] <solifugus> Wargasm: it's an illustration of how hard it is for long-time kde lovers like me are having a really hard time.. not only with bugs but design issues, too..  It's tragic.. I am hoping things get better..
[18:21] <mefisto__> solifugus: do you have kde 4.2 ?
[18:21] <Wargasm> solifugus: things will get better, 4.2 is proof of that imo. since 4.0 i've seen improvement.
[18:21] <Wargasm> get 4.2 if you don't have it
[18:21] <solifugus> mefisto__: I don't know..  how can I find out?
[18:22] <mefisto__> solifugus: konqueror help, about kde (for example)
[18:22] <Wargasm> should show your version name in about
[18:22] <Wargasm> or version number
[18:22] <solifugus> Wargasm: 4.1.4... how can I upgrade to 4.2 ?
[18:23] <Wargasm> solifugus: you have to add a repository to the third party tab in sources
[18:23] <solifugus> ok..
[18:23] <Wargasm> let me find the repository
[18:23] <mefisto__> solifugus: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 (or enable backports and update/upgrade)
[18:23] <jals> right, firefox finally crashed and gave me an error
[18:23] <Wargasm> solifugus: also let me give you a warning
[18:24] <Wargasm> i had an issue when upgrading
[18:24] <jals> this is the error http://pastebin.com/m22a205a
[18:25] <Wargasm> when i was upgrading it must not have updated everything. i logged in and nothing showed up on the desktop. so i restarted x and changed the session to "console" in console i did "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get upgrade" everything was fine after the upgrade ran in console.
[18:25] <jals> is there anything useful there?
[18:25] <solifugus> Wargasm: I've never had an version upgrade without major problems on any distro since I started with Slackware 97, back in 1998.
[18:25] <solifugus> Wargasm: I just backup my data and install fresh.
[18:25] <Wargasm> then you haven't been using ubuntu gnome
[18:26] <Wargasm> because i've upgraded numerous times
[18:26] <Wargasm> without issue
[18:26] <solifugus> I've always issues
[18:26] <Wargasm> but i wasn't worried about data. i backup everything important.
[18:26] <bishopz> mk im pissed, bout to reinstal
[18:26] <Wargasm> so i can be reckless
[18:27] <slcr> alright! almost painless upgrade to 4.2 ;)
[18:27] <gothpaw> Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive....  See here for details -->  http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html
[18:27] <bishopz> Gothpaw: whats your issue
[18:28] <gothpaw> too much to paste here, hence the link in my request for help :)
[18:28] <bishopz> lol didnt even see that
[18:28] <bishopz> hold on
[18:29] <Wargasm> gothpaw: hang on i had an issue similar before
[18:29] <Wargasm> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/manual-mount-external-usb-hard-drive-in-ubuntu-519463/
[18:29] <Wargasm> gothpaw: check out that link
[18:29] <bishopz> Good call war
[18:29] <bishopz> it should auto mount.
[18:29] <Wargasm> it worked for me last time i had a drive that wouldn't mount
[18:30] <girevikmoto> join #samba
[18:30] <Walzmyn> How do you edit the favorites in kmenu?
[18:30] <Wargasm> yeah i had a WD external drive that refused to auto mount, so i had to manually do it
[18:30] <bishopz> rofl i just had a WD issue lastnight
[18:30] <slcr> Walzmyn: 4.something? just rightclick?
[18:30] <Wargasm> bishopz: wouldn't mount?
[18:30] <bishopz> my WD usb external, would mount, but wasnt reading shit, now i can only access through dolphin
[18:30] <Walzmyn> slcr, right click allows me to remove, I want to add something
[18:31] <Wargasm> weird, bishopz, my WD worked fine after i manually mounted it.
[18:31] <mefisto__> jals: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=953000&page=2
[18:31] <bishopz> yea, mine doesnt. i can use the files off the disk, cant move anything to it, its saying registering as read only
[18:31] <slcr> Walzmyn: any link you find in other apps or so, you can right click and add to favourites
[18:31] <Wargasm> oh i see, so it's a permissions issue
[18:31] <bishopz> idc i was really only pissed about the 100+ movies on it
[18:31] <Walzmyn> slcr oh
[18:31] <Wargasm> did you sudo mount it? does that make a difference?
[18:32] <jals> mefisto__, i actually found a link suggesting it's a problem with the gtk engine
[18:32] <bishopz> yea to /media
[18:32] <bishopz> and everything
[18:32] <Wargasm> weird
[18:32] <jals> this describes it exactly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine/+bug/279240
[18:32] <gothpaw> wargasm: unfortunately that link does not help nor apply to me....
[18:32] <Wargasm> it doesn't work, gothpaw?
[18:32] <Wargasm> did you try running the first command listed?
[18:32] <bishopz> Probably not.
[18:32] <bishopz> lol
[18:32] <gothpaw> Wargasm: everything in that link I have done numerous times
[18:33] <Wargasm> ok gothpaw, make sure you aren't just putting in "sda1" make sure the "sda1" is correct
[18:33] <bishopz> when you plug in the drive via usb , doees it appear on your desk top?
[18:33] <Wargasm> it could be "sdb" or something
[18:33] <gothpaw> Wargasm: please see the link I added to my request
[18:34] <bishopz> i believe its adb1
[18:34] <bishopz> sdb1*
[18:34] <gothpaw> Wargasm: yes  I know, in this case the drive is sdd1
[18:34] <bishopz> ^
[18:34] <bishopz> :D
[18:34] <bishopz> i are shmart
[18:34] <gothpaw> bishopz: sdb1 is another drive.... sdc1 is also another drive, the one in question is sdd1
[18:34] <bishopz> gothpaw: does the icon show on your desk top when u plug it in
[18:35] <bishopz> yes im aware
[18:35] <gothpaw> bishopz: I don't use those icons, so I couldn't tell you
[18:35] <bishopz> ok, places
[18:35] <Wargasm> did you try /mnt/sdd1 instead of "/home/gothpaw/extras2"
[18:35] <Walzmyn> slcr, thankyou, that helped a bunch
[18:35] <bishopz> ^
[18:36] <AndySpain> folks, why is there absolutely no protection for root account??
[18:36] <fosco__> what do you mean Andry_Sleeps ??
[18:36] <SlimeyPete> No protection?
[18:36] <Pici> Protection?
[18:36] <Wargasm> lol
[18:36] <SlimeyPete> The root account is disabled by default...
[18:36] <gothpaw> Wargasm: the path of mounting should be irrelevant, considering all other drives are mounting properly (outside of /mnt/ ) ... ie, my other USB Drive is sdc1 and is mounted to /home/gothpaw/Extras .... but yes I have tried other mounting locations
[18:36] <AndySpain> Well, when starting the computer
[18:36] <mefisto__> jals: what theme are you using for gtk apps?
[18:36] <fosco__> andy---, in ubuntu there is no root account
[18:36] <AndySpain> you can select Recovery mode
[18:37] <slcr> Walzmyn: glad to help :)
[18:37] <AndySpain> and there you can enter a root shell
[18:37] <AndySpain> without ANY pw being required
[18:37] <Pici> AndySpain: So remove that entry from grub.
[18:37] <jals> mefisto__, gtk style?
[18:37] <alex_> How I can get automatically mounted all the partition I have in my system !?!
[18:37] <fosco__> AndySpain, same as almost all distros, you can pass protrect grub if you want
[18:37] <jals> i was using GTK style but i've switched it to Raleigh now at the suggestion of someone on that link
[18:38] <gothpaw> Wargasm: just for the sake of trying your help.... no I get the same error when trying to mount it to /mnt/sdd1
[18:38] <Wargasm> ok, thanks gothpaw
[18:39] <gothpaw> the error doesn't pertain to a mounting point though, it is relevant to the filesystem
[18:39] <AndySpain> Pici, dosco:: I would prefer having a pw there. I don't wanna remove it from grub, for sometimes i already needed it. For instances when on login screen I could not enter kde anymore and neither could i enter konsole from the login scrren, but in recovery mode i could
[18:39] <AndySpain> there is no need to have recovery mode pw-free
[18:39] <AndySpain> is there?
[18:39] <Wargasm> yeah, i'm trying to figure out what could be wrong if it isn't a mounting issue, gothpaw
[18:40] <AndySpain> fosco__ how can I pw-protect grub?
[18:40] <fosco__> AndySpain, modify your menu.lst or use any GUI like startupmanager to put a password on grub
[18:40] <Wargasm> gothpaw: does the drive work on other pcs?
[18:41] <silentstri> hey everyone :P
[18:41] <Wargasm> hey, silentstri
[18:41] <bishopz> god that was stupid of me
[18:42] <bishopz> wargasm any idea how to get manually removed icons out of wine? ;x
[18:42] <gothpaw> Wargasm: only other PC's I have currently produce the same error (they are all Kubuntu 8.10 PC's)
[18:42] <Walzmyn> what is a .desktop file?
[18:42] <bishopz> !destop
[18:42] <Wargasm> not sure, bishopz, sorry. not familiar with wine.
[18:42] <bishopz> ksd
[18:42] <bishopz> !desktop
[18:43] <Wargasm> gothpaw: do you think the drive could be broken/corrupt?
[18:43] <silentstri> anyone can help me install ndiswrapper and a driver really fast?
[18:43] <Walzmyn> I know what the heck a desktop is. I asked about a XXX.desktop file
[18:43] <bishopz> shit, this sucks im too much of a perfectionist to not reinstal ;x
[18:43] <bishopz> :-P
[18:43] <gothpaw> Wargasm: I surely hope not as there is some seriously Vital Work data on the drive
[18:43] <Wargasm> lmao, i hear you bishopz
[18:43] <jussi01> !ohmy | bishopz
[18:43] <shadeslayer> silentstri: sudo apt-get install <program>
[18:44] <Wargasm> gothpaw: don't abandon hope yet, i'm nowhere near an expert on this issue.
[18:44] <bishopz> Shadeslsyer: whats up ;)
[18:44] <jussi01> !ndiswrapper | silentstri
[18:44] <shadeslayer> GNOME is up
[18:44] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:44] <bishopz> lol
[18:44] <silentstri> i have a super nooby question.......... what do I do with these comands?!
[18:44] <Wargasm> silentstri: what device is it for? i've had a lot of experience getting wifi drivers.
[18:44] <shadeslayer> or rather going UP
[18:44] <bishopz> lol everything coming along?
[18:45] <Wargasm> open terminal and paste the command in, silentstri
[18:45] <shadeslayer> silentstri: lol,RUN in konsole
[18:45] <silentstri> OHH
[18:45] <silentstri> i c i think
[18:45] <shadeslayer> silentstri: its like a DOS command
[18:45] <bishopz> my laptop + wifi issues = Grrrr
[18:45] <Wargasm> if you have trouble, PM me, silentstri
[18:45] <silentstri> ok, so I have ndiswrapper and I have the driver for my WPC54G wifi card, how do I make them work?
[18:45] <shadeslayer> well DOS commands run in DOS,these run in Konsole
[18:45] <jcr> the kernel 2.7.x will be available for 8.04 anytime?
[18:46] <Wargasm> it's the same concept though, shadeslayer
[18:46] <shadeslayer> silentstri: deb package
[18:46] <shadeslayer> Wargasm: obviouxly
[18:46] <shadeslayer> *s
[18:46] <shadeslayer> brb in GNOME
[18:46] <bishopz> fuck it fresh instal
[18:46] <silentstri> shadeslayer: whats a deb package?
[18:46] <bishopz> coming tonight
[18:46] <bishopz> =P
[18:46] <silentstri> what with the red chat ??
[18:47] <Wargasm> red chat is highlighting, it helps get your attention when your name is written
[18:47] <bishopz> lol
[18:47] <gothpaw> silentstri: it's called highlighting.... used when your name is typed
[18:47] <silentstri> ill ask later xD
[18:47] <bishopz> ^
[18:47] <bishopz> ooye
[18:47] <Wargasm> you can add more words to be highlighted
[18:48] <silentstri> so is there a command I need to install ndiswrapper? or is it hella complex?
[18:48] <AndySpain> SlimeyPete  why is root disabled? isn't sudo the same as being root - i mean having the same privileges?
[18:49] <mefisto__> !root
[18:49] <Wargasm> hah
[18:49] <AndySpain> thx, mefisto__
[18:49] <silentstri> so is there a command I need to install ndiswrapper? or is it hella complex?
[18:49] <Wargasm> silentstri: did you try "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[18:49] <silentstri> in konsole? brb
[18:49] <Wargasm> yeah
[18:50] <jcr> some solutions in ubuntu forums, suggest to uninstall the ndiswrapper package, and install it from tar.gz
[18:51] <bishopz> Thats what i did
[18:51] <bishopz> Js
[18:51] <Wargasm> i've always had good luck with installing from repos
[18:51] <bishopz> Brb tho
[18:51] <silentstri> Wargasm: It didnt work, gave me a list of errors about cannot mount etc
[18:51] <Wargasm> let me pm you, silentstri
[18:54] <bishopz> */killme
[18:54] <bishopz> ;x
[18:55] <shadeslayer> GNOME is uh.... nice
[18:55] <bishopz> Wargasm: quick question i dont know realllly how to answer it to a friend correctly
[18:55] <bishopz> gnome <3
[18:55]  * gothpaw sighs ......  grrrrrr
[18:56] <shadeslayer> a welcome change
[18:58] <AndySpain> fosco__ still i think it's a problem for security. many unexperienced users like me, install kubuntu, set the passwords, and think, now the system is safe.
[18:58] <bishopz> If my friend is doing a fresh HD ... no windows... loading ubuntu, on the partion, she wants to choose "entire disk" right?
[18:59] <AndySpain> and until the try the recovery they will not now, that there is root access to all the system at no expense
[18:59] <fosco__> AndySpain, if you do not like that way just change it
[18:59] <raptor> hey guys
[18:59] <jcr> bishopz> that's correct
[18:59] <AndySpain> fosco__ I mean for other users. who do not know that they should change this
[18:59] <shadeslayer> guys wont user switcher work with GNOME alongsside KDE??
[18:59] <bishopz> jcr: ty
[18:59] <AndySpain> I have already changed it
[18:59] <AndySpain> here
[18:59] <shadeslayer> *s
[19:00] <Guest95319> i got de 8.10 installation
[19:01] <Guest95319> and now i am  configuring my website server
[19:01] <Guest95319> this is so cool
[19:01] <AndySpain> bye folks
[19:02] <raptor_> where are you from?
[19:02] <raptor_> i amd in mexico
[19:03] <silentstri> lol 2o more minutes in class for "research" xD
[19:03] <jcr> i'm in mexico too
[19:03] <silentstri> canada ftw
[19:03] <silentstri> wargasm still around?
[19:03] <Tm_T> !ot
[19:04] <Wargasm> hey, silentstri, still here
[19:05] <silentstri> ok, so im opening adept again
[19:05] <Wargasm> ok
[19:05] <Wargasm> try refreshing your lists
[19:06] <raptor_> i dont know how to access my website remotely
[19:06] <silentstri> nope, nothing
[19:06] <Wargasm> no ndiswrapper?
[19:06] <Wargasm> hmm
[19:06] <raptor_> is there anybody can help me with???
[19:07] <silentstri> i dled it
[19:07] <silentstri> if that makes a dif...
[19:07] <Wargasm> it should still show up in your adept package manager
[19:07] <mefisto__> ndiswrapper-common
[19:07] <Wargasm> can you click on sources, then "edit software sources"
[19:08] <Wargasm> yeah, it's ndiswrapper-common
[19:08] <silentstri> ok
[19:08] <gothpaw> Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive. See here for details -->  http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html
[19:08] <Wargasm> make sure on the first tab that proprietary drivers box is checked
[19:08] <slcr> not working still gothpaw?
[19:09] <shadeslayer> i cant get the user switcher applet to work in gnome
[19:09] <silentstri> ehhhhh where is sources
[19:09] <sorteal> try your question in ##gnome
[19:09] <sorteal> or #ubuntu
[19:10] <Wargasm> ok here's the problem silentstri, there's like 3 package managers, each are slightly different
[19:10] <silentstri> oh ya I havent installed ndiswrapper yet, or is that what adept should do
[19:10] <Wargasm> yeah
[19:10] <gothpaw> slcr: nope.... and I'm starting to get worried as I need the data that is on the drive
[19:10] <Wargasm> that's what we're trying to do through adept, silentstri
[19:11] <silentstri> o ok
[19:12] <Wargasm> silentstri: click on the k menu, go to computer, then go to adept installer
[19:12] <Wargasm> just so we're on the same page here
[19:12] <silentstri> i did
[19:12] <silentstri> im running 6.06
[19:12] <Wargasm> kk
[19:12] <Wargasm> now, do you see sources with the globe icon on the left?
[19:13] <silentstri> wait computer?
[19:13] <silentstri> i have "system"
[19:14] <Wargasm> third tab over on the menu
[19:14] <Wargasm> main tab
[19:14] <Wargasm> "favorites" then "applications" then "computer"
[19:14] <Wargasm> are you using kde4 or not
[19:14] <silentstri> uhm, dont think my kmenu is the same
[19:15] <mefisto__> Wargasm: silentstri is running 6.06
[19:15] <silentstri> or my adept
[19:15] <Wargasm> ok, i'm not familiar with that sorry. but if you can figure out if you have the proprietary driver repo active
[19:15] <Wargasm> do that
[19:15] <slcr> gothpaw: i only have a faint recollection of this, but is it not possible to spec fat32? or add some other flags
[19:15] <silentstri> do the whatsit with the hoosit?
[19:16] <Wargasm> should be in software sources or something similar
[19:16] <silentstri> ok.... shall look
[19:17] <Wargasm> see if you can find the thing called software sources in the menu
[19:17] <bishopz> some see if they can dig up how to remove icons out of wine that have been deleted already
[19:18] <mefisto__> bishopz: edit the menu and remove them
[19:19] <bishopz> how so
[19:19] <bishopz> im new towine and such
[19:20] <mefisto__> bishopz: right-click the menu icon, then "menu editor"
[19:21] <bishopz> brings up main menu
[19:21] <bishopz> ohhhh
[19:21] <bishopz> I SEE
[19:21] <bishopz> mefisto__: ty very much
[19:23] <silentstri> brb taking notes -_-'
[19:25] <bishopz> linuxwiz: =) whats up
[19:27] <sorteal> Does anyone use konqueror as their standard web browser?
[19:28] <Wargasm> id like to, but firefox is just too nice.
[19:29] <sorteal> Well I would too but I've noticed it has issues loading some images in kde 3.5.  Any ideas on what might cause this or a possible plugin/patch I'm missing?
[19:30] <mefisto__> sorteal: loading images in firefox?
[19:30] <sorteal> konqueror
[19:30] <Wargasm> do they load in firefox but not konq
[19:30] <sorteal> yup
[19:30] <Wargasm> weird
[19:30] <kuaera> I use Arora as my standard browser, here
[19:30] <mefisto__> sorteal: what kind of image?
[19:30] <kuaera> Arora runs on qtwebkit, and is focused on KDE integration right now
[19:31] <kuaera> It does require Qt4.4+, however
[19:31] <sorteal> I'm pretty sure they're PNG images
[19:31] <silentstri> ugh history >.<
[19:34] <mediaman> is there a program that is similar to windows media center for linux? i found elisa but is that the only one?
[19:34] <altrortla> there's a tutorial to learn "kommander" application... or a channel?
[19:35] <fosco__> mediaman, there are many of them, the one i like is xbmc, but not sure if it is in repos
[19:35] <Exilant> media center, like amarok with video?
[19:36] <Wargasm> amarok is such a nice player compared to most of the stuff available on windows
[19:36] <mediaman> i want something that will work with a remote and occupy the whole screen such as elisa does but elisa isnt very stable
[19:37] <Exilant> mplayer works with a remote. dunno about kaffeine (and dunno if it is available on ibex)
[19:37] <Exilant> but kaffeine is really nice for dvb-t and dvds
[19:37] <Wargasm> pretty sure kaffeine works on ibex
[19:37] <Wargasm> haven't tried it though
[19:37] <bishopz> it does
[19:37] <Wargasm> k
[19:38] <bishopz> funniest moment of my day
[19:38] <bishopz> my little cousin gets on my laptop
[19:38] <bishopz> and goes
[19:38] <bishopz> WTF IS THIS SHIT
[19:38] <bishopz> he 13
[19:38] <Wargasm> lmfao
[19:38] <bishopz> hes*
[19:38] <sorteal> lol
[19:38] <Wargasm> first non-windows experience?
[19:38] <Wargasm> rofl
[19:38] <bishopz> mhmm
[19:38] <bishopz> WTF IS AIM , AOL,? WTF
[19:39] <bishopz> im just cracking up
[19:39] <Wargasm> linux de virginized
[19:39] <jcr> he/she saw the light! lol
[19:39] <bishopz> hes watching certain things
[19:39] <bishopz> going OHHH i like that
[19:39] <fosco__> bishopz, please stop that, this is a support channel
[19:39] <bishopz> why do i have a feeling ill be dual booting his laptop
[19:39] <bishopz> tonight
[19:39] <mediaman> xmbc looks pretty nice does it work with a remote and will it run from gnome?
[19:39] <fosco__> mediaman, yes
[19:40] <bishopz> fosco: with all due respect . i wasnt disturbing ANY suppport discussion nor was it an over drawn convo
[19:40] <bishopz> take it how u wanna
[19:40] <fosco__> !ot
[19:40]  * cuznt agrees
[19:40] <bishopz> -yawn
[19:40] <Wargasm> :P
[19:41] <mediaman> hmm how do i get it?
[19:41] <bishopz> Why hello there cuznt
[19:41] <mefisto__> language also, bishopz
[19:41] <puffs> m
[19:43] <mediaman> fosco__: there is a ppa available it says on there site but im unsure what that means/
[19:43] <fosco__> mediaman, ppa is a not official repo
[19:43] <fosco__> use it at your own
[19:43] <cuznt> they abreviate it because it is a naughty word
[19:43] <mediaman> how do i use it or better yet what is the best way for me to get xbmc
[19:43] <gothpaw> slcr: fat32 is specified via vfat, so other than that I am unsure what you mean
[19:44] <cuznt> !xbmc
[19:44] <mefisto__> !info xbmc
[19:45] <mediaman> fosco__: u said you use it right? how did you install it?
[19:45] <cuznt> what is xbmc mediaman?
[19:45] <silentstri> ok, so about installin ndiswrapper
[19:45] <mediaman> it is a media center fosco told me about
[19:45] <bishopz> Still messin with the wrapper?
[19:45] <Wargasm> someone help this guy install ndiswrapper
[19:45] <Wargasm> haha
[19:46] <bishopz> lol
[19:46] <silentstri> ><
[19:46] <Wargasm> ever find software sources?
[19:46] <silentstri> meh schools out, shall return
[19:46] <Wargasm> nvm lmao
[19:47] <bishopz> doh
[19:47] <bishopz> I think i might instal a 3dwrapper
[19:47] <fosco__> mediaman, i did it following xbmc webpage instructions
[19:47] <bishopz> any suggestions?
[19:48] <mediaman> fosco__ which intailed installing the ppa?
[19:49] <fosco__> yes
[19:59] <alex_> dolphin take a decision, when he is running, I can't seeanything else ....
[19:59] <alex_> it' s onfuulscreen mode,without bar and I can't do anything
[19:59] <alex_> how can be...
[20:00] <alex_> someone can help me please ?
[20:00] <bishopz> anyone know if ubuntu has a google earth comparible?
[20:00] <cuznt> !ask
[20:00] <Wargasm> try holding down alt and dragging, alex_
[20:01] <alex_> doesn't works ...
[20:02]  * rgl salutes the gang
[20:02] <alex_> it's unbeliavable ....
[20:02] <bishopz> rgl: hello there
[20:03] <alex_> where is the profile file of dolphins !?!someone knows ?
[20:04] <mefisto__> alex_: try alt-F3, then advanced menu, and turn off fullscreen
[20:08] <ct529> :( .... I cannot have ktts work properly on my laptop
[20:09] <alex_> my connection was down ....
[20:11] <alex_> so what should I do inorder to fixtheproblem with dolphin ?
[20:11] <ct529> lex_: what problem?
[20:12] <mefisto__> alex_: try alt-F3, then advanced menu, and turn off fullscreen
[20:12] <Kiberlynx> hi
[20:12] <alex_> when I open it , is a kind of full screen mode .....
[20:12] <J_A_X> if I were to try to find out which xserver session name I'm currently on, how would I do it?
[20:13] <alex_> I try Alt-F3 but doesn't do anything
[20:14] <Kiberlynx> where I've installed a few programs with wine in a user, now I want to move those programs to another users wine, which is no problem, except for the kickoff icons which I don't know how to copy, how do I do it?
[20:14] <mefisto__> alex_: is the dolphin window in the panel?
[20:14] <alex_> which panel do you mean?
[20:15] <mefisto__> alex_: the panel that shows the windows you have open
[20:15] <Kiberlynx> I've installed a few programs with wine in a user, now I want to move those programs to another users wine, which is no problem, except for the kickoff icons which I don't know how to copy, how do I do it?
[20:15] <ct529> what is alt + f3 supposed to do???? it does maximise
[20:15] <alex_> actually not,it's covered by dolphin
[20:16] <mefisto__> alex_: any other windows open? alt-tab?
[20:16] <Kiberlynx> alex_ has quit
[20:17] <mefisto__> ct529: alt-F3 does the same as right-click the titlebar of a window
[20:18] <ct529> mefisto__: thanks
[20:18] <ct529> mefisto__: do you know anything about ktts?
[20:19] <mefisto__> ct529: no. what is it?
[20:19] <ct529> mefisto__: text-to-speach in kde .... and in kubuntu .... :)
[20:19] <ct529> !ktts
[20:19] <Kiberlynx> where's the k-menu xml file?
[20:19] <ct529> !kttsd
[20:19] <ct529> ubottu is useless
[20:19] <alex_> I'm back..
[20:20] <alex_> shit...., I push somethingwrong..:)
[20:20] <jussi01> !ohmy | alex_
[20:21] <jussi01> ct529: it would help if you knew how to address her! respect the bot!
[20:21] <jussi01> !info kttsd
[20:22] <alex_> ok sorry ....
[20:22] <alex_> but I'm a bit angry for that problem , I just finished to install one hour ago ....
[20:22] <mefisto__> jussi01: it's a her?
[20:23] <jussi01> !gender > mefisto__
[20:24] <alex_> can I use some other file manager as a default filemanager ...., I really like dolphin but it's unusable in this way ....
[20:24] <sorteal> you can switch to konqueror
[20:25] <ct529> jussi01: well, it is rather a $%&@ useless bot .... half of the time just requests the ! command
[20:25] <jussi01> alex_: system settings, default apps, file manager
[20:25] <jussi01> ct529: careful. constructive critiscm only please.
[20:26] <mefisto__> alex_: you're in konversation now?
[20:26] <ct529> jussi01: it is very constructive actually .... if MORE people were allowed to program the bot, it would probably have more factoids
[20:27] <Reformer81> I just installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop.  Now, when I rebooted, the startup halts with errors that fsck could not check /dev/sdb6 (which is my /home/ partition).  I need to press Ctrl-D to continue booting.  Also, when logging into Gnome, now the "User Switcher" applet crashes immediately.  What happened and how do I fix this?
[20:27] <alex_> .......ok , likely I fix it right now....
[20:27] <alex_> likely the dock bar remained on the foreground , so from there , just right click , advaced and I swithed off fullscreen mode
[20:27] <alex_> there is a way to disable full screen mode for dolphin ?
[20:27] <ct529> are you sure you do not have aspecial configuration for the dolphine window?
[20:27] <jussi01> ct529: feel free to join #ubuntu-bots if you care to discus it.
[20:28] <alex_> yeah , I'm pretty sure ....
[20:28] <alex_> anyway now it works....
[20:29] <mefisto__> alex_: any window can go fullscreen, not just dolphin
[20:29] <tabla> hi ppl
[20:29] <alex_> ok , I got it , so I have just to be very carefull with that .....
[20:29] <tabla> i have huge error with sound i dont have any im using creative lab soundcard there is 1 unofficila driver installed it but nothing happends so pls can somone help me how to install alsamixer or smthn like that
[20:30] <ct529> alos, you can configure the initial window for any application
[20:30] <alex_> and it's quite funny m because I didn't switch never to full screen ...
[20:31] <th1> Can anyone help with this:  I upgraded Kubuntu from 7.10 via 8.04 to 8.10 and now Firefox doesn't have any file associations and even "Open containing directory" doesn't work, how can I fix this?
[20:31] <alex_> now another think I'd like to do is to automount my partition on startup ...
[20:31] <alex_> how should I do it .... ?
[20:32] <HappySmileMan> alex_: /etc/fstab
[20:32] <mefisto__> Reformer81: sounds like your disk needs checking with fsck
[20:32] <HappySmileMan> Not sure exactly how to do it, haven't done it in a while, but google for guides
[20:32] <alex_> yeah I know the file but ....
[20:32] <HappySmileMan> Basically you just enter partition and fs-type and stuff
[20:33] <alex_> ok , so I'll search on google ..:)
[20:33] <tabla> i have huge error with sound i dont have any im using creative lab soundcard there is 1 unofficila driver installed it but nothing happends so pls can somone help me how to install alsamixer or smthn like that
[20:34] <fabio_> oi
[20:34] <maco> tabla: alsamixer is always installed. just run it. but as to the fact that you're using creative, first *shudder*, second...i recommend asking in #ubuntu-audio-help in a few hours
[20:35] <HappySmileMan> Not sure if there's a graphical way, there probably is, but I've only ever done it on gentoo
[20:35] <maco> (not right now, as i dont think dtchen is in right now, and i dont know anything about creative)
[20:36] <mefisto__> tabla: do you need this unofficial driver for your card?
[20:36] <bishops> silly questioncan someone walk me thru getting screenlets running?
[20:37] <tabla> mefisto__: im really new on this linux stuff i dont know even where to begin
[20:37] <tabla> mefisto__: all i have readed has fail
[20:38] <tabla> mefisto__: in terminal if i type alsamixer it gives me No mixer elems found
[20:38] <tabla> so where ican turn it or or smthn if its installed
[20:38] <mefisto__> tabla: type:  cat /proc/asound/modules
[20:39] <tabla> nothing
[20:39] <mefisto__> tabla: lshw -C multimedia
[20:39] <tabla> yeah
[20:40] <kavurt> how to see what version of kubuntu I'm using?
[20:40] <tabla> may i pm
[20:40] <mefisto__> tabla: ok can you pastebin that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:40] <mefisto__> tabla: or pm if you prefer
[20:44] <maco> tabla: download http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and save it to your desktop. "cd ~/Desktop ; bash alsa-info.sh" it'll give you a link. post the link here
[20:45] <DaddyLonglegs> How can I completely disable the system beep?
[20:52] <tabla> maco http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=74f45bc39a13738d3c93d07b2b58fdceb1d3daaa
[20:53] <QWonder> how do i enable all the fancy graphics stuff where the windows have physics and all that in 8.10?
[20:54] <maco> tabla: blergh. yeah...mixers'll be no help. what driver did you try to install? can you find the howto?
[20:54] <tabla> http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=209&CatName=X-Fi&subCatID=208&subCatName=X-Fi&prodID=17927&prodName=PCI+Express+X-Fi+Titanium
[20:55] <tabla> there was just 2 commands make and make install
[20:55] <tabla> nothing more
[20:55] <drostie> QWonder: there's some stuff (for me in KDE 4.2) in K > System Settings > S
[20:55] <drostie> erm.
[20:55] <drostie> K > System Settings > Desktop
[20:56] <das> hi
[20:56] <QWonder> hmm, i'm actually just trying to check it out from the live cd of 8.10
[20:56] <drostie> Get the Jaunty live cd if you want to see KDE 4.2.
[20:59] <tabla> maco: you saw any errors or smthn?
[21:00] <maco> tabla: can you try a jaunty live cd?
[21:00] <tabla> hmmz
[21:00] <tabla> i have to burn it?
[21:00] <tabla> never used one
[21:00] <tabla> :)
[21:01] <maco> tabla: i see stuff online about that card not being supported as of july but that support was expected to come soonish. knowing when freeze happens in ubuntu, its possible that current versions of alsa have support for it, but youd have to try a jaunty live cd
[21:01] <das> hi to everyone! it's my first irc start..
[21:01] <maco> tabla: yes, you can get the daily image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ and burn it with the "burn image" option in brasero.
[21:02] <drostie> Python gives me headaches. ;_; ... I seem to have just discovered that in Python, all integer arithmetic is arbitrary-precision and you need to write your own casting.
[21:02] <mossgix> hi there
[21:02] <drostie> !hi | das
[21:02] <mossgix> is there someone that have played NWN2 on kubuntu?
[21:02] <tabla> maco jaunty-desktop-i386.iso       23-Feb-2009 08:20  693M  Desktop CD for PC (Intel x86) computers (standard download)
[21:02] <tabla> this right?
[21:03] <maco> tabla: yep
[21:03] <drostie> mossgix: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4118
[21:03] <tabla> maco k download takes like 1 mins burning other 4 so what i do with id into pc and trying to update on that?
[21:04] <maco> tabla: that's jaunty as of today. if that works, you can just install a newer version of alsa while you wait for jaunty to release in april. though i dont actually remember how to compile new alsa modules, so you'll probably have to ask someone else for help with that
[21:04] <mossgix> drostie i've already seen that page, but i have some question about nvidia drivers
[21:04] <maco> tabla: dont update to it because it's a development release and you're a beginner. this is just for testing purposes
[21:05] <mossgix> i'm using drivers by ubuntu repos, but when i start NWN it says that i havn't 3d acceleration
[21:05] <maco> tabla: if it works in there, its possible to install the parts you need. if it doesn't then :(
[21:05] <tabla> maco so you mean i have run this live cd as new ubuntu after reboot right but just as testing right?
[21:06] <drostie> mossgix: well, then you should have asked about getting nvidia drivers working ^_^;; -- umm, nvidia is still on proprietary drivers, but some people have reported problems with them. I'm on a laptop, so I don't know much more. sorry.
[21:06] <maco> tabla: yes, just as testing
[21:06] <tabla> k
[21:06] <tabla> i try that one
[21:06] <tabla> thnks for help
[21:07] <mossgix> yep... i'm trying to use only free software but man, gaming is so fucking tight with winz
[21:07] <ikonia> mossgix: control your language please
[21:07] <Rioting_pacifist> loads of my binaries are segfaulting, i think its due to prelink, how can i comfirm/check this
[21:07] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: what makes you think it's pre-linking ?
[21:08] <Rioting_pacifist> ikonia: well last night i updated prelink and since then many of my programs spit out seg faults
[21:08] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: how did you update prelinking ?
[21:09] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: pre-linking is something that happens, not a package
[21:09] <Rioting_pacifist> ikonia: first prelink -a then prelink -au to undo, no its definatly a package
[21:10] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: I meant as a task
[21:10] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: why did you re-do prelinking ?
[21:10] <rgreening> Riddell: ping
[21:10] <Rioting_pacifist> ikonia: because debsums was complaining about it alot
[21:11] <rgreening> Riddell: qtjambi in my ppa. Just testing it out, and noticed that the demos dont launch if libqtjambi-dev is not installed. It's looking for the libqtjambi.so and fails if not present.
[21:11] <Rioting_pacifist> e.g "/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/lib/libtasn1.so.3.0.12: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking"
[21:13] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: why would pre-linking change a package dependency
[21:13] <rgreening> Riddell: I was wondering if adding a dep on -dev to the demos was appropriate, or should the .so's move around? If I add a dep, then this forces qt4-x11-dev and qt designer to be also installed
[21:14] <gothpaw> Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive. See here for details -->  http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html
[21:14] <rgreening> wrng chan... oops
[21:15] <Rioting_pacifist> ikonia: i figured it meant since the last time id prelinked the package had been updated, so i ran prelink again, im just running debsums now then ill try sudo prelink -u -a and see if that helps
[21:15] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: ahhh
[21:15] <drostie> Rioting_pacifist: that's what it sounds like to me, too.
[21:16] <drostie> Rioting_pacifist: why isn't updating prelink a cron job on your system?
[21:16] <[TCK]> jockey-kde's activate button won't work when trying to install fglrx, anyone know if this is anticipated behaviour?
[21:17] <Rioting_pacifist> drostie: dunno i figured it would do it mannually on updates
[21:17] <Rioting_pacifist> gothpaw: what happens if you try sudo mount -t auto
[21:18] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: what sort of stuff is segfaulting ?
[21:19] <Rioting_pacifist> ikonia: everything firefox, kdesktop, kalarm, (ive only found konversation, konsole & konqeror working)
[21:20] <topsu> is there any goos video player for kubuntu
[21:20] <Rioting_pacifist> the errors are "general protection rip:7fffea6f8a1a rsp:7ffff290ab70 error:0" and "[ 3342.822158] kalarm[17634]: segfault at 7f33ac5a800c rip 7f3332a71a1a rsp 7fff3ac83ef0 error 4"
[21:20] <ikonia> Rioting_pacifist: if you asked me without saying the problems you're having I'd say "no way" but the problems your having certainly sounds like it has effected it
[21:20] <[TCK]> topsu: vlc
[21:20] <topsu> how to install?
[21:20] <[TCK]> should be able to do it through adept, just search for vlc
[21:21] <topsu> ok
[21:21] <[TCK]> or sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:21] <drostie> gothpaw: that page recommends that you do a dmesg | tail. What does that tell you, if anything?
[21:22] <gothpaw> Rioting_pacifist: when I try -t auto I am told to specify the filesystem
[21:23] <gothpaw> drostie: not sure how to do that exactly, however I have looked in the dmesg log file and found nothing useful
[21:24] <Guest3166> sup
[21:24] <topsu> does anyone have Warhammer online on kubuntu?
[21:25] <Rioting_pacifist> gothpaw: what happens if you try to mount /dev/sdd instead of sdd1? i doubt it will work but i vaugly recall it working on a flash drive at some point
[21:26] <Silentstri> ?
[21:26] <[TCK]> I figure it would mount all partitions on sdd, but no idea
[21:26] <drostie> gothpaw: hm. well, type [man fsck.vfat] into a console (minus the square brackets, of course) to read about how to do an integrity check on a FAT32 drive.
[21:26] <Rioting_pacifist> http://rafb.net/p/HXBGCI33.html < a list of my failed debsums (probably not due to prelink, but generally my system had hdd problems) how can i convert that into a list of things to reinstall?
[21:27] <[TCK]> man, jockey-kde searching endlessly for drivers, there must be a better way!
[21:27] <gothpaw> drostie: I've done a fsck.vfat last night when someone else was helping
[21:27] <gothpaw> Rioting_pacifist: /dev/sdd doesn't work in this case
[21:28] <Silentstri> hey everyone
[21:28] <drostie> gothpaw: geez. I know that my 80GB IPOD is vfat and works okay, so the problem probably isn't drive size on vfat drives. Is there a bunch of data on this drive?
[21:28] <Silentstri> still tryin to get ndiswrapper on 6.06 XD
[21:29] <Silentstri> any ideas anyone?
[21:29] <drostie> ("a bunch" meaning "near or more than 50% of the drive space," I suppose, if we're going to be technical.)
[21:29] <gothpaw> drotsie: see here for the fsck.vfat -->  http://rafb.net/p/3LmnAO59.html
[21:30] <gothpaw> drostie: see here for the fsck.vfat -->  http://rafb.net/p/3LmnAO59.html
[21:31] <gothpaw> drostie: there is a ton of data on this drive that I cannot loose (Vital business info, and sadly all other backups are useless so this is the last remaining backup)
[21:32] <Silentstri> still tryin to get ndiswrapper on 6.06 XD
[21:32] <Silentstri> any ideas anyone?
[21:32] <Silentstri> im nub
[21:34] <gothpaw> drostie: a bunch as in about 180GB of data needs to be saved
[21:34] <gothpaw> drostie: so I guess that is about 85% of the drive, roughly (it's a 250GB External USB Drive)
[21:35] <gothpaw> forgive my math if 85% is wrong.... my math is not so good
[21:36] <drostie> Google says 180 / 250 = 72% ^_^
[21:36] <yowshi1> how do i get the panel to let me put the windows in the order i wnt instead of alphabetically?
[21:37] <gothpaw> drostie: :) I was close at least, heh
[21:37] <gothpaw> yowshil: that I imagine would be a #KDE question, assuming you're using KED
[21:38] <gothpaw> KED-KDE
[21:40] <Silentstri> anyone can help me? I dunno how to install ndiswrapper .<
[21:40] <Silentstri> ><
[21:40] <mefisto__> Silentstri: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[21:41] <Silentstri> doesnt work
[21:41] <Silentstri> i tried it, somone else gave me those instructions
[21:41] <Silentstri> i dled ndis from the site
[21:42] <Silentstri> and put it in my main file.... home folder thingie
[21:42] <gothpaw> Silentstri: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=461587
[21:42] <Silentstri> ty
[21:43] <Silentstri> it says it cant find the Ndiswrapper common
[21:43] <Silentstri> i used command again
[21:43] <Silentstri> should I replace Ndiswrapper-common with the name of the file?
[21:45] <gothpaw> Silentstri: another link to help -->  http://swik.net/NdisWrapper+Kubuntu
[21:45] <Silentstri> oh ty gothpaw
[21:46] <Silentstri> i have a question for mefisto though
[21:46] <Silentstri> after it says
[21:47] <Tabla_> maco with this live cd
[21:47] <Tabla_> wav starts to play but still no sound
[21:47] <maco> Tabla_: any sound?
[21:47] <maco> :(
[21:47] <Tabla_> but now there is some master mixer or smthn like that
[21:47] <Tabla_> with older ubuntu there wasent any
[21:47] <maco> ok...?
[21:48] <maco> so can you run the alsa-info.sh thing again?
[21:48] <Silentstri> ok, I used the comman sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common, put my pass in and it said "reading package lists... Done, Building dependency tree... Done, E: Couldn't find the package ndiswrapper-common"
[21:48] <Tabla_> i try to find it
[21:48] <Silentstri> is there a easy fix for this
[21:48] <Tabla_> aa i mean give me link again pls
[21:49] <maco> Tabla_: http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[21:51] <Tabla_> what was the command maco sudo &bash alsa/info.sh_
[21:51] <Tabla_> shit different keyboard now
[21:51] <jussi01> !language | Tabla_
[21:51] <Silentstri> ok, I used the comman sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common, put my pass in and it said "reading package lists... Done, Building dependency tree... Done, E: Couldn't find the package ndiswrapper-common"
[21:51] <Silentstri> is there a easy fix for this
[21:51] <maco> Tabla_: save it to your desktop, then "cd ~/Desktop ; bash alsa-info.sh"
[21:52] <Tabla_> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4255026ea5ae1bb733d4cb6d55cb5202370a4f8e
[21:52] <gothpaw> !ndiswrapper
[21:52] <maco> Silentstri: run apt-get update first
[21:52] <maco> Silentstri: it seems not to know how to find what you're looking for, so updating the package list should help
[21:53] <Silentstri> do I need interwebs for that?
[21:53] <Silentstri> internet*
[21:53] <Silentstri> lol
[21:53] <gothpaw> yes, you do
[21:53] <maco> Silentstri: yeah....
[21:53] <maco> Silentstri: where were you intending to install from...?
[21:53] <drostie> gothpaw: I am seeing very little headway to be made on your problem, other than to create two different partitions on the drive and start resizing the boundary between them. But since Linux is not recognizing your file systems, I think the file transfers would have to be done in Windows (assuming that Windows gets right the 200+ allocation tables scenario).
[21:54] <drostie> So the resizes would also have to be done in Windows, and all of the software I know that does FAT resizes under windows costs money.
[21:54] <gothpaw> drostie: well, that's gonna be extremely hard to do
[21:54] <Silentstri> from my... uh.... hardrive?
[21:54] <gothpaw> drostie: I don't have any windows machines
[21:55] <gothpaw> Silentstri: apt-get works via internet
[21:55] <Silentstri> ><
[21:55] <Silentstri> so, how do i install ndiswrapper if I dont have internet? like, I have ndiswrapper in my home fil
[21:55] <gothpaw> Silentstri: you're gonna have to do it manually in which case I suggest those links I posted to you before
[21:56] <drostie> gothpaw: neither do I, but they're remarkably plentiful in my part of the world. It's not too hard to find a friend with a laptop. But I don't know the software that you'd need.
[21:56] <Silentstri> ok, ty
[21:56] <gothpaw> drostie: no-one I know runs Windows.....
[21:56] <drostie> How were you accessing this drive beforehand?
[21:57] <mefisto__> Silentstri: how are you connected now? why don't you have internet access?
[21:57] <gothpaw> drostie: from one of my older (now gone) Kubuntu pc's
[21:57] <Silentstri> i have 2 laptops ._.
[21:57] <Silentstri> one has windows
[21:57] <maco> Silentstri: do you have ndiswrapper and its dependencies? if so, put them all in one directory, cd there and do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[21:58] <maco> Silentstri: apt-get is the net-based dependency-resolving installer
[21:58] <drostie> gothpaw: hm. Okay, so Linux *can* read this filesystem, it's just not mounting for some reason or another? That's very different from what I thought the problem was ^_^;;
[21:58] <Silentstri> im trying to install on linux
[21:58] <gothpaw> drostie: well in the past yes.... but right now it can't as it can't seem to mount it
[21:59] <drostie> gothpaw: and just to make sure: the drive hasn't been dropped brutally down a flight of stairs or anything like that?
[21:59] <Silentstri> or is CD on kubutu too and I just havent figured it out ._.
[21:59] <gothpaw> drostie: not "yet", lol ....
[22:00] <drostie> gothpaw: does your /etc/fstab have entries for another drive as /dev/sdd1 that might be getting in the way?
[22:00] <gothpaw> drostie: nope... I wish it was that easy t hough
[22:00] <gothpaw> though***
[22:01] <drostie> yeah, as do I. ^_^;;
[22:01] <Silentstri> cause I have ndiswrapper + dependencies in one directory on my linux laptop, all in my home folder, but I cant use the sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[22:01] <Silentstri> cause you said apt-get was internet-based right?
[22:01] <gothpaw> Silentstri: see the message maco sent you on  how to do it manually
[22:01] <Silentstri> ok ty
[22:02] <mefisto__> Silentstri: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=ndiswrapper
[22:02] <mefisto__> Silentstri: ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 and ndiswrapper-common
[22:02] <gothpaw> Please Help.. I'm having issues mounting a 250GB USB drive. See here for details -->  http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html
[22:03] <Silentstri> put them all in one directory, cd there and do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb {this prompts questions from me, what does cd mean? like, cd..}
[22:03] <Silentstri> o wait
[22:03] <Silentstri> nvm
[22:03] <Silentstri> i figured it out
[22:03] <Silentstri> xD
[22:03] <gothpaw> :)
[22:06] <drostie> gothpaw: does the mount call give you anything useful when you [sudo mount -v /dev/sdd1] ...?
[22:08] <gothpaw> drostie: I'd have to say I don't know as I am unsure of the -v option and what it does
[22:08] <drostie> gothpaw: [man mount] to find out that the -v option stands for "verbose" ^_^
[22:09] <drostie> Sometimes in various applications more v's are more verbose. for example, [aptitude moo], [aptitude -v moo], [aptitude -vv moo]
[22:10] <Silentstri> In the comman sudo dpkg -i *.deb what do I replace * with?
[22:10] <gothpaw> drostie: ok, the sudo mount -v /dev/sdd1 gives me the very same error as when I try to mount the drive normally
[22:11] <drostie> Silentstri: bash (the command line shell) automatically fills in [*.deb] with all of the files in the current directory that end with ".deb".
[22:12] <drostie> Silentstri: see, for example, [ls -l *.deb] to list permissions for only those files that end with the .deb extension.
[22:12] <drostie> gothpaw: but doesn't tell you anything new? :-(
[22:12] <Silentstri> so I need to find the file thats .deb.... ty
[22:13] <Hammer> good evening
[22:13] <mefisto__> gothpaw: you could try smartctl -a /dev/sdd1     to check for hardware problems
[22:13] <gothpaw> drostie: --> http://rafb.net/p/S7lD1Y38.html
[22:14] <gothpaw> mefisto__: hang on, I have to install smartmontools first
[22:17] <mefisto__> doesn't fat32 have a partition size limit? how is it 250GB ?
[22:17] <drostie> gothpaw: dude, that drive has got to be in fstab or mtab. Check those files again. (If you don't specify options, it should say opts: "(null)" or so. At least, in the current version of mount in the repos.)
[22:18] <drostie> mefisto__: That's... complicated. Windows won't format natively about 32 GB, but the actual limit is in the terabytes. It doesn't matter, though, because this particular drive used to Just Work (tm).
[22:19] <drostie> s/about/above about/
[22:19] <gothpaw> it is in fstab as follows -->  /dev/sdd1       /home/gothpaw/Extras2   vfat    defaults,user   0       0
[22:19] <mefisto__> drostie: it worked with linux vfat?
[22:19] <drostie> mefisto__: yep.
[22:20] <drostie> gothpaw: delete that line. Maybe a "defaults" or "user" option isn't supported by vfat? I dunno.
[22:20] <drostie> Or comment it out by prefixing it with a hash character (#).
[22:20] <Hammer> I have a question regarding 8.10, specifically graphics corruption on nvidia quadro fx cards
[22:21] <gothpaw> drostie: those options are supported, I use them on other drives too that are Fat32
[22:21] <Hammer> Is anybody familiar with this?
[22:22] <mefisto__> gothpaw: what about just   sudo mount /dev/sdd1   ?
[22:23] <gothpaw> mefisto__: says I have to specify the filesystem when I try to mount it any other way except -t vfat
[22:24] <drostie> gothpaw: still, try mounting this drive without those options. If the drive's firmware locked the drive in read-only mode, for example, maybe it would get annoyed. I'd like to see the -v output when there's no fstab entry at all.
[22:24] <noaXess> have a problem... sudo apt-get update shows me some "Could not resolve" problems..
[22:24] <noaXess> but normal internet connection works.
[22:25] <noaXess> a dig to security.ubuntu.com will work
[22:26] <noaXess> i have that only in one machine in my network... a new one..
[22:26] <drostie> noaXess: could you paste the [sudo apt-get update] output into http://paste.ubuntu.com (or similar) and then send the url of the pasted content to us?
[22:27] <noaXess> drostie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/122074/
[22:27] <gothpaw> drostie: without the fstab entry I get this -->   mount: can't find /dev/sdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:27] <Hammer> on kubuntu 8.10 (new installation) on a dell precision laptop with a nvidia quadro fx 3500 graphics card every once in a while the display becomes completely corrupted.
[22:28] <Hammer> this does not happen under windows xp, nor 8.04, so its not a hardware isssue I believe
[22:28] <drostie> noaXess: and you can still [ping ch.archive.ubuntu.com] ok with this computer?
[22:28] <noaXess> drostie: no.. no ping..
[22:29] <mefisto__> gothpaw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/27689
[22:29] <noaXess> but dig ch.archive.ubuntu.com will get me correct results
[22:29] <Hammer> i suspect either the x-server or the nvidia graphics driver is to blame, but reinstalling did not seem to help
[22:29] <Hammer> has anyone heard of this type of problem before?
[22:29] <gothpaw> mefisto__:  see here please -->  http://rafb.net/p/43lScA97.html
[22:31] <StR|Sangreal> hi
[22:32] <Hammer> hi
[22:32] <StR|Sangreal> where can i find assistance with cairo dock;
[22:32] <drostie> gothpaw: I apologize, my earlier recommended code was a little bad. You want to first [sudo mkdir /media/test] and then [sudo mount -v /dev/sdd1 /media/test], specifying both the source and the destination.
[22:32] <drostie> If you don't specify the destination, then it looks in /etc/fstab to find that out.
[22:33] <Hammer_42b> hello anybody?
[22:33] <drostie> !hi | Hammer_42b
[22:34] <Hammer_42b> thanks
[22:34] <StR|Sangreal> what is your issue hammer?
[22:34] <Hammer_42b> I have a problem with 8.10
[22:34] <StR|Sangreal> go ahead
[22:34] <gothpaw> drostie: here you go -->  http://rafb.net/p/tZaS2i32.html
[22:35] <Hammer_42b> on a fresh install on a dell precision M90 with a nvidia quadro fx 3500M graphics card
[22:35] <drostie> noaXess: it sounds like something is going wrong with DNS in particular, rather than your internet connection in general. If you configure your connection to use OpenDNS, does the problem still happen?
[22:35] <Hammer_42b> my display will become completely corruped every once in a while
[22:35] <Hammer_42b> only a reboot helps
[22:35] <Hammer_42b> restarting X is not enough
[22:36] <Hammer_42b> however, this does not happen with win xp pro nor 8.04, so I don't think its a hardware issue
[22:36] <noaXess> drostie: i have a internal DNS that works an all other 10 machines.. only on this one it won't.. and if i setup /etc/resolv.conf to the dns of my provider, same problem
[22:36] <Hammer_42b> is suspect the nvidia driver or the x-server itself
[22:36] <StR|Sangreal> hmm
[22:36] <mefisto__> gothpaw: here's more reading: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/251781
[22:36] <StR|Sangreal> have you modified the xorg.conf file?
[22:36] <drostie> gothpaw: hm. So it's not auto-recognizing it as vfat. What does -v -t vfat tell you?
[22:36] <StR|Sangreal> !nvidia | Hammer:42b
[22:37] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: I ran nvidia-xconfig with the --no-logo option, nothing else..should be all standard
[22:37] <StR|Sangreal> hmm is this the very fresh install?
[22:37] <drostie> noaXess: what I'm asking is, can you get it working with some external DNS? if so, then we can maybe try to figure out why the internal DNS is borked for only this one machine. If not, then we can maybe isolate the problem to DNS in general.
[22:38] <StR|Sangreal> do you have enough ram and cpu? since plasma consumes much more resources
[22:38] <noaXess> drostie: it won't work with an external DNS.. same problem as with internal..
[22:38] <noaXess> drostie: strane is, that a mail command works... postfix can resolv the externam mail-address..
[22:38] <noaXess> strange
[22:39] <kaddi> !divx
[22:39] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: the install had to be completely new, as the upgrade process from 8.04 to 8.10 borked itself
[22:39] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: the machine got 2gb of ram, 2gb of swap and the gfx card has 500mb ram. its fairly beefy.
[22:39] <Hammer_42b> there is enough diskspace
[22:39] <StR|Sangreal> you mean you have translated .04 to .10 and of course it failed, and now you have some problems with kde?
[22:40] <Hammer_42b> also, as long as its running (for hours on end sometimes) everything seemes fine
[22:40] <gothpaw> drostie: http://rafb.net/p/V06LAz96.html
[22:40] <StR|Sangreal> i wouldnt recommend to use distro-upgrade... it doesnt work, especially if done with x running
[22:40] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: no. after the failed upgrade, i reformatted and installed fresh from cd
[22:40] <StR|Sangreal> aha
[22:41] <mefisto__> gothpaw: if you do " sudo tail -f /var/log/messages " and then plug in the usb, do messages appear to recognise the disk?
[22:41] <Hammer_42b> its very weird
[22:41] <StR|Sangreal> if it is totally fresh, i would recommend to reinstall once again
[22:41] <StR|Sangreal> really
[22:42] <Hammer_42b> I had this problem with 7.10 and compiz installed, but by the time 8.04 rolled around everything was stable
[22:42] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: how would another fresh install help?
[22:42] <StR|Sangreal> it happened to me that i got network problems after a totally intact install
[22:42] <StR|Sangreal> and another reinstall didnt cause the error
[22:43] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: so what caused that problem? corrupt cd?
[22:43] <noaXess> drostie: i got it..
[22:43] <StR|Sangreal> if the problem is in kde, go to tty and install ubuntu-desktop and try if it is odd too
[22:43] <noaXess> /etc/nsswitch.conf
[22:43] <asdfasdfasdf> hello
[22:43] <StR|Sangreal> hmm a good point to start is to autohash the cd if it is ok
[22:44] <StR|Sangreal> but my case was probably a sudden temporary disconect of some HW media since the install ran ok but the result was corrupted
[22:45] <drostie> noaXess: :D
[22:45] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: hmm
[22:45] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: if i really have to reinstall i will probably wait till 9.04 comes around
[22:45] <noaXess> drostie: i configured today a samba with domain controller enabled and follow the howto on samba.org .. and one of them was configuring /etc/nsswitch.conf to hosts: files wins
[22:46] <noaXess> and then no DNS works ;)
[22:46] <StR|Sangreal> QUESTION: pls what do i need to integrate GoogleGadgets to plasma?
[22:46] <StR|Sangreal> Hammer_42b > i will wait till Karmic :)
[22:46] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: no idea :)
[22:47] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: still this is pretty annoying...also that means that i will not be able to use kubuntu as my primary system for a least another 6 months
[22:48] <StR|Sangreal> you may reinstall to hardy heron
[22:48] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: though 8.04 with kde3 was stable on my machine and worked great
[22:49] <StR|Sangreal> i understand you i thought the same since i use radeon mobility X1450, an unsupported notebook vga
[22:49] <StR|Sangreal> and fortunately 2 weeks ago a semicompatible driver appeared so i could run plasma again
[22:49] <gothpaw> mefisto__:  please see  here for 'sudo tail -f /var/log/messages'  -->  http://rafb.net/p/sj5lwh22.html
[22:50] <drostie> gothpaw: you've officially stumped me. I wouldn't know what to do more without reading Microsoft's FAT32 spec and carefully comparing it to [sudo xxd /dev/sdd | more] until I found out what the heck's going on with the tables themselves. It sounds like maybe there was a tiny bit of corruption somewhere in one of them, though,  and it's making fsck and mount reject the drive. :-/
[22:50] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: neither the new xerver nor kde4 should have been included in 8.10
[22:51] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: ahh well....it also seems to be a pretty rare problem, since i could not find anything in any other newsgroup. but i believe my specific nvidia card is not very common
[22:52] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: i think dell only sells it in its precision series, which is not mainstream
[22:52] <Hammer_42b> strsangreal: anyway, thanks for your help
[22:53] <Hammer_42b> bye
[22:53] <mefisto__> gothpaw: does it mount in windows?
[22:53] <StR|Sangreal> i bought of first asus books with centrino duo... then they decided that the card isnt suitable
[22:53] <drostie> mefisto__: gothpaw has no windows. no windows of judgment. no windows at all.
[22:53] <gothpaw> mefisto__: don't have a windows machine, and I don't know anyone whom actually uses windows
[22:54] <mefisto__> gothpaw: public library? internet cafe?
[22:54] <drostie> gothpaw: that /var/log/messages section is interesting though; I'd be curious to find out what's trying to access sector 488407970.
[22:54] <mefisto__> gothpaw: maybe try booting livecd and see if it mounts
[22:55] <gothpaw> mefisto__: where I live, they don't allow you to plug in "foreign" hardware (that's what they call it anyways)
[22:57] <gothpaw> mefisto__: that I could try, I do have a LiveDVD of 8.10 and 7.10
[22:57] <mefisto__> gothpaw: I'm wondering if you could somehow shrink the partition just a little, maybe it would mount
[22:58] <mefisto__> gothpaw: that might be risky for data though, of course
[22:59] <gothpaw> mefisto__: then I can't do it.... as the data on here is vital data
[22:59] <drostie> and I have no clue how well gparted resizes vfat. But you might be able to get more info by using vfat on a USB key with nothing important on it.
[23:00] <gothpaw> mefisto__: I'm gonna try the LiveDVD's and see what I get there, I will return as it's this system I am using drostie
[23:00] <gothpaw> be back shortly
[23:02] <drostie> rogers.com ... gothpaw is apparently canadian.
[23:02] <drostie> I wasn't aware that Windows was so hard to find in canada ^_^
[23:02] <Wargasm> how much do you want to bet the drive is broken?
[23:03] <Wargasm> i'll put down $9001 internet dollars
[23:03] <drostie> Wargasm: I'd bet against the drive being broken, I think. It's seriously messed up in its partition table, but the logs suggest that the kernel is getting *something* and is trying to work with it.
[23:04] <Wargasm> well, i agree with that.
[23:04] <Wargasm> but still, "broken"
[23:04] <Wargasm> corrupted
[23:05] <Wargasm> quick reformat it and run data recovery program on it
[23:05] <torkiano> vote for improving kubuntu browser: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18204/
[23:06] <mefisto__> drostie: I think you're right about partition tables. probably got disconnected during a write or something
[23:07] <Wargasm> yep
[23:07] <Wargasm> because he's been trying to fix it for several hours now
[23:07] <Wargasm> and nothing has helped
[23:07] <mefisto__> drostie: sudo fdisk -s /dev/sdd1 would be interesting to see if the size reported is what /var/log/messages reported
[23:11] <ctw> Hi! Does anyone here know a good (preferably free and kubuntu compatible) program that lets you build graphs with weighted edges using a GUI? I tried JGraph, but it doesn't seem to allow weighing the edges.
[23:13] <drostie> mefisto__: his fdisk -l output was available here: http://rafb.net/p/ydmBYw60.html
[23:15] <drostie> mefisto__: there's a really interesting claim in his /var/log/messages though: "Feb 23 15:47:44 ShadowWalker kernel: [247297.580251] sdd: p1 exceeds device capacit"
[23:16] <amgarchIn9> hi, after upgrade to 4.2 my laptop ignores the "do nothing on lid close" setting in power management. What could it be? This is ubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2 from intrepid-backports
[23:16] <mefisto__> drostie: and that series of "attempt to access beyond end of device"
[23:18] <drostie> mefisto__: well, that just tells me that the machine thinks there's something interesting at #488397168. The only good that does for me is to maybe search the entire device in binary for that number written in little- or big-endian bytes.
[23:19] <drostie> mefisto__: but if /dev/sdd1 is really bigger than /dev/sdd, then the problem is maybe just in the MBR, which is an easy place to poke around.
[23:22] <drostie> amgarchIn9: is ths setting turned off for all of the available profiles, or just for the first one?
[23:24] <gothpaw> mefisto__: sadly I got the exact same thing when trying to use a LiveDVD (both 7.10 && 8.10)
[23:25] <sant> hi all :)
[23:25] <drostie> gothpaw: it would be really interesting to see [sudo xxd -l 512 /dev/sdd], which will print out, in hex, the master boot record of your drive. ^_^
[23:25] <amgarchIn9> drostie: oh, they seem to not differentiate any more. There is a section for "Mains powered", a section for "Battary powered", and a separate seciton for "When Laptop Lid Closed"
[23:26] <gothpaw> drostie: well I could pastebin it if you desire
[23:26] <sant> i can formule a question?
[23:26] <drostie> amgarchIn9: I'm also running KDE 4.2, and it's still an option for me. I dunno. YMMV.
[23:27] <drostie> gothpaw: that'd be the idea ^_^
[23:27] <drostie> !question | sant
[23:27] <sant> anyone have webcam messenger plus on ubuntu 8.10 corrected configured?
[23:27] <sant> soz for my english :D
[23:28] <drostie> can't help with that ^_^
[23:29] <gothpaw> drostie: --> http://rafb.net/p/AeBR7r14.html
[23:29] <DaddyLonglegs> Can anybody help me please? I can't find the menu from which I could choose to hide icons in kubuntu 8.10 tray.
[23:31] <bishopz> !ot
[23:31] <amgarchIn9> drostie: are we talking about the same config? Here is the window: http://imagebin.ca/view/hcKE5L.html
[23:31] <bishopz> Anyone got any decent eyecandy type mods for ubuntu?
[23:32] <gothpaw> DaddyLonglegs: that would be a #KDE issue, try there
[23:33] <bishopz> !ot
[23:34] <bishopz> !ot
[23:34] <bishopz> wtf
[23:34] <DaddyLonglegs> gothpaw: In OpenSUSE I can right click on tray and hide icons, but in kubuntu 8.10 I can't find it. I think it's not a KDE issue.
[23:34] <bishopz> #kubuntu
[23:34] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: right-click system tray (it's a bit tricky to do - try the very top few pixels above the icons) and system tray settings
[23:35] <bishopz> !ot
[23:35] <bishopz> !info KDE
[23:35] <bishopz> ;/
[23:35] <bishopz> !ot
[23:35] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: do you have kde 4.2 ?
[23:36] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: I think it is 4.1, but I'm not sure.
[23:36] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: konqueror help menu, about kde
[23:37] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: What I get is just "panel settings". No way can I get "tray settings" :(
[23:37] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: not sure if it works in 4.1, but it does in 4.2 here
[23:37] <DaddyLonglegs> Aw. It says 4.1.4
[23:38] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: right-click just above the kmix speaker icon is easiest for me
[23:38] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: as high up as you can without leaving the panel
[23:39] <drostie> amgarchIn9: try K > System Settings > Advanced > Power Management
[23:39] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: I tried everywhere but it's just giving me "panel settings"
[23:40] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Isn't there any file which I can edit in order to set them to be hidden, or any commands which launch the same window from konsole?
[23:41] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: seems like it's a 4.2 thing: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/   (see under heading "Desktop Improves User Experience")
[23:42] <drostie> mefisto__: (and gothpaw:) the 488397168 in the /var/log/messages is 1D 1C 59 70, the MBR says that /dev/sdd1 has length 1D 1C 82 28
[23:42] <bishopz> Can i ask a stupid question, really fast?
[23:42] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Aw! Thanks man!
[23:42] <drostie> the rest of the MBR looks well-formed.
[23:42] <bishopz> When i download a theme, i dont unzip it i just move it into home/themes right?
[23:43] <amgarchIn9> drostie: do you have powerdevil installed?
[23:43] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: If I want to upgrade to 4.2, should I do it manually? Isn't it gonna ruin anything?
[23:44] <gothpaw> drostie: unfortunately I have no idea what that means, sorry
[23:44] <amgarchIn9> DaddyLonglegs: with intrepid-backports it is enough to "aptitude full-upgrade"
[23:44] <drostie> amgarchIn9: possibly.
[23:44] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: probably won't ruin anything, but might not be "graceful". lots of people get errors when packages try to overwrite existing files
[23:45] <bishopz> ok cool thanks for the help
[23:45] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: the solution is to remove the old package, install the new one, then continue the upgrade
[23:46] <amgarchIn9> drostie: thanks! your way it does work
[23:47] <DaddyLonglegs> Seems a bit risky. I prefer to do that after my project deadline :-)
[23:49] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: if you don't want to risk enabling all the backports, you can add the ppa repo for 4.2 so you just get those 4.2 packages. but probably not a bad idea to get your work done first either way
[23:51] <DaddyLonglegs> mefisto__: Awesome. Thanks for help :-)
[23:51] <mefisto__> DaddyLonglegs: http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[23:56] <drostie> gothpaw: it means that your Master Boot Record is reporting that /dev/sdd1 is longer than the kernel is comfortable with in /var/log/messages.
[23:56] <fabio_> hi
[23:56] <kaddi> !hi|fabio_
[23:57] <gothpaw> drostie: is there some way to fix this; at least long enough to copy the data I need, then I can format it and start fresh?
[23:57] <mefisto__> drostie: so you mean editing the length to be 1D 1C 59 70 would make it consistent and therefore mountable?
[23:57] <fabio_> ao que parece não ha muitos brasileiros aqui
[23:57] <kaddi> !br
[23:58] <mefisto__> drostie and gothpaw: I've never used it, but there
[23:58] <talvik> since the last update my kde 4.2 apps (kubuntu pakages), are trying to access libs from my kde svn build. and then fail to open
[23:58] <mefisto__> drostie and gothpaw: I've never used it, but there's a util called testdisk that might be able to fix it. drostie?
[23:58] <talvik> can anyone help
[23:58] <khalidmian> need toknow if there is  a client in kubuntu which allows voice chat
[23:59] <fabio_> thank you
[23:59] <khalidmian> like msn messeger
[23:59] <khalidmian> or yahoo messenger