[19:58] <MK-BB> Hi, did the meeting begin??
[19:58] <jcastro> nope
[19:59] <boredandblogging> juliux, popey, keffie_jayx, JanC: ping
[19:59] <popey> yo!
[20:00] <boredandblogging> hey
[20:00] <juliux> boredandblogging: pong
[20:00] <boredandblogging> hi juliux
[20:00] <boredandblogging> i know keffie_jayx is around
[20:01] <Jihui_Choi> hi boredandblogging.
[20:01] <boredandblogging> hello Jihui_Choi
[20:01] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: you are here for LoCo approval?
[20:02] <Jihui_Choi> yes.
[20:02] <boredandblogging> we have quorum but lets give keffie_jayx and JanC a few minutes
[20:02] <Jihui_Choi> how many people is needed?
[20:03] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: 3
[20:03] <juliux> boredandblogging: are you going to the next uds?
[20:03] <boredandblogging> juliux: have to check my work session
[20:03] <keffie_jayx> Hey i'm here
[20:03] <boredandblogging> juliux: you?
[20:03] <Jihui_Choi> humm.. I hope we have more than 3 at this time.
[20:04] <boredandblogging> hopefully JanC_ will arrive soon
[20:04] <juliux> boredandblogging: i have filled a sponsoring request
[20:04] <boredandblogging> juliux: cool
[20:04] <boredandblogging> lets do Korea first since they were here for the last meeting
[20:05] <keffie_jayx> So have i
[20:05] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: when did the LoCo start?
[20:06] <boredandblogging> their approval application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanTeam/ApprovalApplication
[20:06] <juliux> nice logo;)
[20:06] <Jihui_Choi> as my known, since the late of 2005
[20:06] <JanC> I'm here
[20:07] <keffie_jayx> Ok
[20:07] <boredandblogging> JanC: cool, we are looking at the Korean application
[20:07] <Jihui_Choi> one of our member made the logo. the yin and yang symbol means our nation flag.
[20:08] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: do most people use hanirc over freenode?
[20:08] <Jihui_Choi> yes. in korea, most of people use hanirc.
[20:08] <Jihui_Choi> irc.hanirc.org
[20:10] <popey> Jihui_Choi: is there more than one team in Korea? I recall seeing multiple edits of the loco team list a while ago, from people changing the Korea entry?
[20:10] <Jihui_Choi> for  checking our channel in hanirc, visit irc.hanirc.org/6661 or 6666 #ubuntu
[20:10] <Jihui_Choi> popey, well.. it's a little complicate..
[20:11] <Jihui_Choi> But it's a just happening.
[20:11] <popey> Is there some conflict?
[20:11] <Jihui_Choi> there is no another team.
[20:11] <Jihui_Choi> nope. just A TROLL made some problem.
[20:11] <popey> It seems to have stopped now.
[20:12] <Jihui_Choi> I'm sorry I don't know how to explain
[20:12] <popey> Jihui_Choi: What do you guys have planned for the coming year ahead?
[20:12] <Jihui_Choi> my friend will help me. wait please
[20:12] <popey> no, it's fine, you don't need to explain further, I understand.
[20:13] <Jihui_Choi> yes. at first, we will hold a seminar in May.
[20:13] <effie_jayx> Jihui_Choi, are you planning to have a freenode channel anytime?
[20:13] <Jihui_Choi> we aleady have #ubuntu-ko
[20:13] <EugeneLee> popey:  one of person who want to controled loco team but he made some legal problem so he had sueing
[20:13] <Jihui_Choi> and from now, we'll make more active via our form link..
[20:13] <popey> EugeneLee: oh dear
[20:14] <Jihui_Choi> Thank you EugeneLee
[20:14] <EugeneLee> :P
[20:14] <popey> I dont think it really matters where the irc channel is, so long as they have plenty of contribution
[20:14] <popey> and people can find it :)
[20:15] <popey> Jihui_Choi: are there any specific things you guys do to promote the use of Ubuntu?
[20:15] <Jihui_Choi> I think so. we plan to use #ubuntu-ko in irc.freenode.net for official support. and #ubuntu in hanirc for our chat.
[20:16] <Jihui_Choi> not yet. we want to get some CDs, but now we plan to make our own distrubution.
[20:16] <effie_jayx> Jihui_Choi, just as long as you are able to point people to your channel it should be fine
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> ah.. we want to use the domain. ubutu-ko.org
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> ubuntu-kr.org
[20:17] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi: how are translations going?
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> effie_jayx, I see. thank you.
[20:17] <Jihui_Choi> about 50%..
[20:18] <Jihui_Choi> our translation team was broken. but now we have some volunteers, and tranlation rate is growing
[20:19] <popey> Jihui_Choi: what do you have planned for the Seminar in May?
[20:20] <Jihui_Choi> wait a minute please. sorry
[20:21] <MK-1> popey; im here to help Jihui_Choi out
[20:22] <Jihui_Choi> thank you MK-1.
[20:22] <popey> Hi
[20:22] <Jihui_Choi> we have 4 topic for beginner, and 2 topic for advanced.
[20:23] <popey> Training sessions? Education?
[20:23] <MK-1> yes basically yes
[20:23] <MK-1> there will be an Intro for the beginners and 2 projects for the advanced users
[20:24] <popey> Did you participate in the bug jam the last two days at all?
[20:24] <Jihui_Choi> and time for sharing some hardware stuff. and helping to set up ubuntu for laptop and mobile deivce.
[20:24] <MK-1> one of the basic things will be
[20:24] <boredandblogging> Jihui_Choi, MK-1 how will you advertise or promote the seminars?
[20:24] <MK-1> to use ubuntu as desktop
[20:24] <popey> sounds good
[20:25] <JanC> how "big" are these seminars?
[20:25] <Jihui_Choi> using forum and some site about linux.
[20:25] <effie_jayx> MK-1, in the todo list in the koren new wiki. there is mention of MOTU work. could you tell me a bit about your incursion in MOTU?
[20:25] <Jihui_Choi> we plan about for 50s.
[20:26] <Jihui_Choi> does MOTU mean this? "Maintain our own Ubuntu GNU/Linux distribution"
[20:27] <MK-1> boredandblogging, we are planning to put an ad in the korean linux communty forums and some open source newspaper
[20:27] <Jihui_Choi> For now, there are some problem to use korean after ubuntu installation.
[20:27] <Jihui_Choi> So we edit official distribution for our environment.
[20:28] <effie_jayx> ok thanks
[20:28] <Jihui_Choi> add korean language pack and some package for korean.
[20:29] <boredandblogging> lets vote
[20:29] <boredandblogging> +1
[20:29] <juliux> +1
[20:29] <effie_jayx> +1 from me... great work on events and keep it up
[20:30] <popey> Ok, I'm undecided.
[20:30] <popey> I like what the guys are doing, and they're clearly enthusiastic.
[20:30] <popey> hmm, +1
[20:30] <popey> :)
[20:30] <boredandblogging> congrats Korean Team!
[20:30] <johnc4510> w00t for the Korean team
[20:31] <Jihui_Choi> thank you popey, boredandblogging, juliux, effie_jayx :)
[20:31] <bundo> Oh Thank you ^^ ~
[20:31] <MK-1> thank you guys.
[20:31] <JanC> are you guys trying to get the changes in your PPA upstream?
[20:31] <effie_jayx> Jihui_Choi, keep up the great work and please do extend our gratitude to the team
[20:31] <boredandblogging> jcastro: ping
[20:32] <jcastro> pong!
[20:32] <Jihui_Choi> Of course. we want to help people. and more many people know about ubuntu
[20:33] <Jihui_Choi> effie_jayx, I see. I notice and encourge our members, especially developers..
[20:33] <MK-1> JanC; the upstream will be fixed soon.
[20:33] <JanC> MK-1: good
[20:33] <boredandblogging> jcastro: whats on your mind?
[20:33] <MK-1> that is in the agenda right now
[20:33] <MK-1> so.. no worries there.
[20:33] <jcastro> boredandblogging: well, I would like to propose moving mailing list approval for LoCo teams to the Loco council
[20:34] <jcastro> initially I was assigned this task to clear up the queue
[20:34] <jcastro> but it was a temporary measure
[20:34] <Jihui_Choi> wow.. now is 5 am in korea. I slept just 3 hours for this.
[20:34] <jcastro> so what I would like to do is hand over that responsibility to the loco council
[20:34] <Jihui_Choi> but I'm so happy. I really appreciate you guys. :)
[20:34] <jcastro> basically that means logging into rt.ubuntu.com, and looking at mailing list requests
[20:34] <boredandblogging> jcastro: are you getting flooded with requests?
[20:35] <jcastro> and then approving/declining them
[20:35] <jcastro> no, after I cleared the queue I get maybe 5 a month now
[20:35] <jcastro> the reason I want to move isn't because of workload, it's because this should be the domain of the loco council
[20:35] <boredandblogging> right
[20:36] <popey> sounds like a plan
[20:36] <boredandblogging> +1
[20:36] <jcastro> ok so i was wondering
[20:36] <jcastro> do you each apply for RT accounts, or do we make one for the entire council?
[20:36] <juliux> jcastro: i think we talked about that already at uds in prague but at the end we don't get the task and also don't get rt accounts;)
[20:36] <jcastro> and then change the password when you change membership or something
[20:37] <jcastro> juliux: yes, at prague is when this was assigned to me
[20:37] <boredandblogging> either way is fine with me
[20:37] <JanC> I think I already have an rt account somewhere...?
[20:38] <popey> i would have separate accounts
[20:38] <popey> then we have tracability
[20:38] <popey> minus typos though
[20:38] <popey> i see no reason for us not to have separate accounts
[20:38] <jcastro> also, I am not sure if there are that many for there to need seperate accounts
[20:38] <jcastro> it's not like there are millions of these
[20:39] <popey> no, but it would solve the "Who authorised this!?"
[20:39] <popey> and would not require us to go mailing people or getting elmo to dig out IP addresses
[20:39] <jcastro> ok, so I will open a ticket then for having you all getting RT accounts
[20:39] <jcastro> or do you want to all apply for accounts individually?
[20:39] <boredandblogging> think JanC and I already have accounts
[20:40] <boredandblogging> but if we need to put in some group or something
[20:40] <jcastro> ok so the others mail rt@ubuntu.com and get accounts
[20:40] <jcastro> and then I will show you guys how to do it?
[20:41] <juliux> cool
[20:41] <boredandblogging> or a wiki page with instructions
[20:41] <jcastro> ok
[20:41] <popey> \o/ screencast
[20:41] <popey> :)
[20:41] <boredandblogging> LOL
[20:41] <popey> j/k
[20:41] <jcastro> heh
[20:41] <jcastro> ok that's all I have unless you guys have more questions?
[20:41] <popey> will requests go to the mailing list?
[20:42] <popey> or us individually?
[20:42] <popey> or something else
[20:42] <jcastro> they go into rt
[20:42] <jcastro> and it mails you after elmo assigns it to your group or whatever
[20:42] <popey> right
[20:42] <popey> so when someone leaves the council we just yank their id from the group?
[20:42] <jcastro> and then you say "approve, IS please make this list", assign to "Anyone" and then that's it
[20:42] <jcastro> right
[20:42] <popey> groovy, makes sense
[20:42] <jcastro> then IS goes and makes it
[20:43] <popey> woot, responsiblity, Go us!
[20:43] <jcastro> you don't do any mailman admin or anything like that
[20:43] <popey> ok
[20:43] <boredandblogging> cool
[20:43] <jcastro> basically, you're there to tell the IS team that that group applying for a list is sane.
[20:45] <boredandblogging> awight
[20:45] <boredandblogging> so...
[20:45] <boredandblogging> Saturday is the locoteams meeting
[20:45] <boredandblogging> we were going to have the French Team...
[20:45]  * popey fires a mail to rt@  "OI! Gimmie an account!"
[20:45] <popey> or words to that effect
[20:45] <boredandblogging> but I don't think thats going to work out
[20:45] <boredandblogging> popey: think you have to include some curse words
[20:46]  * popey edits his request
[20:46] <popey> "Nick Ali said '..."
[20:46] <effie_jayx> lol
[20:46] <boredandblogging> hah
[20:48] <boredandblogging> ummm
[20:48] <boredandblogging> yes back to locoteams meeting
[20:48] <boredandblogging> saturday
[20:48] <boredandblogging> should be fun
[20:49] <boredandblogging> juliux: maybe you want the German Team doing the next -locoteams meeting?
[20:49] <boredandblogging> (not this saturday)
[20:50] <juliux> boredandblogging: do we have a date?
[20:50] <juliux> we are busy with cebit next week
[20:51] <popey> after cebit would be great
[20:51] <popey> whilst its all fresh in your mind
[20:51] <popey> :D
[20:51] <juliux> the weekend after that i am at the next fair;9
[20:51] <juliux> so 21/22 march is the earliest;)
[20:51] <popey> that isnt a problem is it?
[20:51] <popey> we didnt want them _too_ often
[20:51] <boredandblogging> agreed
[20:53] <boredandblogging> juliux: we can work on a schedule after the first -locoteams meeting
[20:53] <juliux> i think i will check with the rest of the team when in amrch we can do it
[20:54] <boredandblogging> ok
[20:54] <boredandblogging> anything else?
[20:55] <popey> dont think so
[20:55] <popey> date of the next non-motivational-session-meeting
[20:56] <juliux> lol
[20:56] <juliux> 16.3 ?
[20:57] <boredandblogging> 16.3 is fine with me
[20:57] <popey> looks good
[20:57] <juliux> good;)
[20:58] <JanC> looks okay
[20:58] <juliux> i will write it into my paper calendar in my kitchen;)
[20:58] <johnc4510> nice meeting council thx :) I'm especially glad to see boredandblogging having to do some work  LOL
[20:58] <boredandblogging> sweet
[20:58] <boredandblogging> thanks everyone!
[20:58] <juliux> johnc4510: hehe
[20:58] <popey> \o/
[20:58] <johnc4510> :)
[20:58] <boredandblogging> johnc4510: lol
[20:58] <popey> johnc4510: he's our whipping boy
[20:58] <johnc4510> oooooooooh nice
[20:58] <boredandblogging> I am!
[20:58] <johnc4510> LOL
[20:59] <popey> assuming of course that doesn't have any negative connotations internationally of course :D
[20:59] <popey> ahem
[20:59] <boredandblogging> haha
[20:59] <boredandblogging> heh
[20:59] <tyche> I'm glad somebody's got the whips out for boredandblogging.  Heehee
[20:59] <boredandblogging> you guys are rough
[21:00] <tyche> We had a good teacher.  Somebody by the name of Nick
[21:00] <boredandblogging> you shush
[21:00] <tyche> ROFLMAOPMP
[21:01] <johnc4510> lol
[21:02] <boredandblogging> alright, meeting adjourned, johnc4510 and tyche are having too much fun at my expense!
[21:03] <effie_jayx> thanks everyone for attending and congrast to the korean team